[00:00] <WeiJunLi> outline or inline kasan? does it really matter?
[00:00] <wedgie> disi: from the command line you can check like this: ''nmcli device show <your netowrk device name>''
[00:00] <wedgie> *network
[00:01] <wedgie> though i have had endless trouble with it not actually using them in the order listed, or getting hung up on one and refusing to let it go for some reason
[00:02] <raj> how can I make http://i.imgur.com/ajEhqom.jpg look like http://i.imgur.com/XL7loX0.jpg ?
[00:12] <sunrise> hi
[00:14] <sunrise> how to install ubuntu on lenovo with recovery system ?
[00:14] <sunrise> windows 10 recovery
[00:15] <kk4ewt> shrink the win10 partitions and install in the free space
[00:16] <sunrise> i dont damage recovery ?
[00:17] <johannix> I'm trying to run a systemd service every five seconds.
[00:18] <sunrise> can a start new system win 10 on future with recovery mode ?
[00:18] <johannix> I've tried setting: OnUnitActiveSec=5s. And also: OnCalendar=*:*:0/5. Sometimes runs on "time," but mostly happens every thirtyish seconds
[00:21] <nacc> johannix: did you change the AccuracySec value?
[00:21] <nacc> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.timer.html#
[00:21] <johannix> nacc: yes, I have it set to 1Sec
[00:26] <turista> I still wonder why I cannot use the sound in this acus w9009s
[00:28] <pabs3> where do I report this? assets.ubuntu.com has an incomplete TLS cert chain, breaking stuff like curl/wget or new browser profiles
[00:34] <tomreyn> Ecliptica: check /var/log/auth.log , maybe enable verbose or debug logging on client and possibly server side
[00:34] <tomreyn> also temporariyl switch users' shell back to /bin/sh
[00:35] <disi> wedgie: that will always match the gui right?
[00:35] <wedgie> disi: in theory it should
[00:36] <disi> wedgie: perhaps something is misconfigured by this IT-provided os image :/ i believe the proper DNS servers are coming over DHCP. they show up in the GUI and in the CLI, but Docker doesn't see that. maybe i should ask in #docker
[00:36] <wedgie> disi: why would docker see the host's dns config?
[00:36] <tomreyn> finally, use a very simple command for testing, echo -en '#!/bin/sh\necho "Hello world"\n' > /tmp/mytestscript; chmod +x /tmp/mytestscript
[00:36] <wedgie> i'm not a docker expert but i expect that they have their own networking config
[00:36] <disi> wedgie: i need it to, otherwise internal resources will not be resolvable
[00:38] <disi> i think so (it is still kinda magic to me), but i know it tries to pick up the hosts dns config because if resolvconf is not installed (e.g. on my debian box) then everything seems to work fine
[00:39] <wedgie> *shrug* I think you're right: #docker may be a better place to ask about that issue
[00:47] <disi> wedgie: fwiw, this seems to fix it:     cat /tmp/working-resolv.conf | resolvconf -a <interface>
[00:47] <disi> where /tmp/working-resolv.conf came from my debian box
[00:48] <noway1> I need to migrate an online scholarly journal from coldfusion to something supported in the modern era... linux based. Any ideas? (security has also been an issue)
[00:51] <ubuntu> d
[00:51] <ubuntu> d
[00:52] <ubuntu> d
[00:52] <ubuntu> d
[00:52] <ubuntu> ImHellhound999
[00:52] <ubuntu> kjlnuojk
[00:52] <ubuntu> jhnoj
[00:53] <cfhowlett> ubuntu, stop
[00:53] <ubuntu> but why
[00:53] <cfhowlett> this is a support channel.  play somewhere else
[00:53] <Guest12319> ok sorry im just trying out ubuntu just booted it up
[00:54] <cfhowlett> !ot | chitchat in the off-topic channel.
[01:20] <nomic> i could upgrade from 14.04 but don't want to lsoe the versin of xchat
[01:20] <nomic> how do I keep it
[01:21] <cfhowlett> nomic, xchat has been dead and unsupported for YEARS.  use hexchat
[01:21] <cfhowlett> https://hexchat.github.io/news/announcement.html
[01:22] <nomic> thats what I don#t want to do
[01:22] <nomic> hexchat = different
[01:23] <nomic> im on 14.04 cos it has xchat
[01:23] <jderp> anyone knows how to retrieve packages that are gone from the archive (ie updated)
[01:23] <nomic> i suppose i'll have to hexchat
[01:23] <nomic> is similar enough rite
[01:24] <disi> why doesnt resolvconf put nameservers received from DHCP into resolv.conf?
[01:26] <turista> I use hexchat and I don't find it bad as u seems to think
[01:26] <turista> but if u're willing to use xchat, just get it from I dunno where :-P~ either can use it in a virtual machine
[01:27] <nomic> ok thanks
[01:27] <pirx> hi all! so when do you think that Canonical will fix the "unity-panel eats up all memory and cpu"-issue? :)
[01:28] <cfhowlett> pirx, better to ask Canonical, yes?
[01:28] <turista> I wonder why it eats lots of memory, wich proccess may be running on it?¿
[01:29] <wedgie> disi: it sets up a local dnsmasq server. That's why you get 127.0.1.1 in there
[01:29] <disi> wedgie: and the idea is that DNS server will only serve requests from localhost? or from 0.0.0.0?
[01:30] <wedgie> from localhost, i'd imagine
[01:30] <disi> i think that would explain my issue... though someone else said 0.0.0.0: https://github.com/docker/docker/issues/541#issuecomment-17565591
[01:30] <pirx> cfhowlett: i was secretly hoping that some canonical-ppl are here...
[01:30] <pirx> (and who knows, they may be)
[01:31] <wedgie> disi: it's bound to 127.0.1.1 on my box
[01:31] <disi> im trying to asses whether the correct fix is to takes steps on ubuntu machines or to take steps in the dockerfile (which will limit where the project can be run)
[01:31] <disi> wedgie: excellent thank you
[01:31] <malkauns> in ifconfig is the rx/tx byte count a count since the interface was connected (ie. wifi connected to current access point) or count since the system booted?
[01:33] <wedgie> disi: sounds like the easiest solution for you is the docker ''-dns <your server here>'' option
[01:34] <disi> wedgie: unfortunately, that is not an option when using docker-compose... but maybe there is something analogous. ill ask on #docker
[01:34] <wedgie> disi: if your container is relying on local name resolution then it sounds like it's already limited in where it can run
[01:35] <pirx> turista: but whatever is running through/in/below/above it, it _itself_ should not need to take up 10gb ram after a few days, right?
[01:35] <disi> wedgie: no, that config breaks it... my debian box has a simple resolv.conf that is (presumably) updated by DHCP and everything works fine
[01:35] <turista> are you using the 64 bits version?¿
[01:35] <disi> oh oh oh , i see what you mean
[01:36] <xangua> pirx: i don't have such issue
[01:36] <turista> may an app its using that panel as a bridge
[01:36] <wedgie> disi: i'm not sure how bad of an idea this is, but you could potentially uninstall resolvconf on your host. No idea how angry that will name network manager
[01:37] <wedgie> s/name/make/
[01:37] <disi> wedgie: ya... i dont want to recommend that. i think resolvconf -a is a little more friendly
[01:39] <SchrodingersScat> sometimes when I copy text from terminal, often through ssh, or mosh, in a screen, etc. the newlines don't get picked up, or it gets all funky and gives me really long lines of text with no newlines.  Am I descending into madness or is there a thing to call this?
[01:40] <wedgie> SchrodingersScat: what are you pasting into?
[01:41] <SchrodingersScat> wedgie: often another terminal emulator that's also in a screen running a text editor such as nano, but this has also happened when copying from a local screen session in terminal and copying into a mousepad instance.
[01:41] <SchrodingersScat> and for instance, if I'm copying a couple lines of apache2 config, it comes out as one marvelous long line with a ton of spaces between what should have rightfully been returns.
[01:42] <turista> I still can't solve the sounds problem
[01:42] <SchrodingersScat> wondering if it's some setting that I'm ignorant of and you people can save me from this
[01:43] <wedgie> dnno
[01:54] <g3> .
[01:59] <allquixotic> From `ubuntu-support-status`: `You have 52 packages (6.5%) supported until January 2017 (9m)` but `date` shows the correct date, Jan 4. So... why is the "(9m)" so wildly wrong? (Ubuntu 16.04 fully updated)
[02:01] <cfhowlett> support does not end bang! midnight! on 01/01.
[02:01] <t3kg33k> Greetings
[02:01] <t3kg33k> Looking for a ddrescue expert here.
[02:02] <allquixotic> cfhowlett: I suppose not, but what definition of "9m" makes sense when it says support ends January 2017 (this month)? 9 minutes? 9 milli-years? certainly not 9 months. and it doesn't update when I ran it a few hours in between, so it's not minutes
[02:03] <t3kg33k> Searching around on the internet I see many different examples of using ddrescue to write an .iso to USB. Some use the -d, -D & -f switch. What is the best practice?
[02:03] <t3kg33k> I meant to say some use just the -f switch while others use just the -D switch while others use a combo on all those switches
[02:05] <Ben64> allquixotic: it means they are supported for 9 months
[02:05] <allquixotic> Ben64: that makes sense, but how does that jive with it saying "supported until January 2017", when the system date is set correctly to the present date/time? 9 months from now is September, not January.
[02:06] <Ben64> it doesn't mean 9 months from now
[02:06] <allquixotic> OH
[02:06] <allquixotic> it means the total support duration of the package(s) from the time they were released until the time they expire is 9 months?
[02:06] <Ben64> yep
[02:06] <allquixotic> I got it now, thanks
[02:09] <allquixotic> t3kg33k: the `-D` option is for extra certainty that each block successfully read from the source is written to the destination, so as to safeguard against system hangs / crashes causing you to lose data
[02:10] <t3kg33k> allquixotic: So is it best to use the -f & -D?
[02:10] <allquixotic> the `-d` option uses the O_DIRECT flag on the fopen call, which instructs the OS to bypass the kernel's page cache and read directly from the block layer's backing store
[02:12] <allquixotic> -f forces overwrite of the output file. Needed when outfile is not a regular file, but a device or partition. This option is just a safeguard to prevent the inadvertent destruction of partitions, and is ignored for regular files.
[02:13] <allquixotic> t3kg33k: if you're trying to read data from a failing storage medium with intermittent reliability and data corruption issues, I'd say yes, because occasionally those types of errors can cause a driver hang or kernel crash or you may end up reading cached bad data from the kernel page cache
[02:14] <allquixotic> if your source storage device is "reliable" (it gives you back the data you requested, repeatably, the first time without error) you don't even really need ddrescue at all, but definitely not the -D and -d options
[02:15] <t3kg33k> allquixotic: okay. got it. I just like using ddrescue for writing an .iso or .img to USB mostly because it shows an output status
[02:15] <Ben64> pv blah.iso | dd of=output
[02:26] <j4f-shredder> is single user mode root access without a password disabled by default on ubuntu 16?
[02:27] <j4f-shredder> i¡m concerned about the physical security of a server
[02:27] <Ben64> don't let people access it
[02:27] <j4f-shredder> I know, but let's say someone gain access
[02:27] <Ben64> then you're screwed
[02:27] <j4f-shredder> is that feature where you put an 's' on grub disabled?
[02:27] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: even without single user mode, all they'd have to do is boot off a usb or CD
[02:28] <Ben64> theres no way to prevent a physical attack
[02:28] <j4f-shredder> but they wouldn't have access to my data in that way right?
[02:28] <j4f-shredder> I mean, the live cd
[02:28] <j4f-shredder> or usb
[02:28] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: sure they would.
[02:28] <wedgie> unless it's encrypted
[02:28] <wedgie> in which case single-user mode wouldn't help them either
[02:28] <Ben64> but with physical access they could still get your data
[02:29] <j4f-shredder> how do I encrypt everything then? I'm a developer doing a startup and I don't know much about security and I'm learning
[02:29] <Ben64> don't worry about encryption, use a good datacenter with actual physical security
[02:29] <j4f-shredder> cause when I used the live usb I just had a clean installation
[02:29] <j4f-shredder> with a couple of programs
[02:29] <j4f-shredder> I didn't see my data
[02:30] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: you can mount the existing hard drive with the livedisk
[02:30] <j4f-shredder> nor my programs
[02:30] <j4f-shredder> ohhh
[02:30] <j4f-shredder> I haven't try that
[02:30] <j4f-shredder> just out of curiosity, which are the things that I could encrypt to make it safer(I will get a 3rd party service as you advised, but I want to know it)
[02:30] <Ben64> none
[02:31] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: honestly, physical security of the machine is relitively easy. Data being stolen via the network/Internet is the much bigger threat (and more difficult to deal with)
[02:31] <j4f-shredder> so, I can't trust even the guys on the datacenter right?
[02:31] <wedgie> imo disk encryption is mostly useful for laptops and such that can much more easily be lost/stolen
[02:31] <Ben64> j4f-shredder: if you can't, then don't use them
[02:32] <j4f-shredder> which is the more trustworthy in your opinion Ben64?
[02:32] <Ben64> you gotta balance security and reality
[02:32] <photon> Hello, my brand new Ubuntu MATE 16.10 doesn't start up. I get a black screen and then a reboot. No logo or anything. I just reinstalled grub from the live cd
[02:32] <Ben64> don't use a shady datacenter, look at reviews
[02:33] <j4f-shredder> perfect
[02:33] <j4f-shredder> wedgie, just out of curiosity, ubuntu have an encryption feature for laptops and stuff right?
[02:33] <Ben64> you'll never have a perfectly secure system as long as someone can touch it and it's on the internet
[02:33] <j4f-shredder> I'm asking this for personal use
[02:33] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: yes, the desktop installer will let you encrypt your home directory
[02:33] <j4f-shredder> once you encrypt all your hard drive, can you decrypted if you want to disable encryption on a later phase?
[02:34] <Ben64> j4f-shredder: no
[02:34] <photon> Anyone? And I learned not to encrypt when it broke and deleted my files
[02:34] <j4f-shredder> so, once you enable that option, then you are stucked with it?
[02:34] <photon> You could move your files to a new /home?
[02:35] <xangua> j4f-shredder: format
[02:35] <j4f-shredder> I'm not the one with the issue
[02:35] <j4f-shredder> it's the other guy
[02:35] <ubuinst> Hello. I'm trying to diagnose an issue and I would like to take a look inside the initramfs. It's 42 MB big and file says it's a straight up cpio archive, but when I try to unpack it I only get 36KB of files. Could someone take a look at what I'm doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/eugZWxDz
[02:35] <j4f-shredder> I just wanted to konw
[02:35] <j4f-shredder> most of you have your files encrypted or decrypted?
[02:36] <j4f-shredder> cause one of the downsizes I've seen is that you can't analyze which apps are consuming the most if the files are encrypted
[02:36] <wedgie> on my laptop i use encrypted home. My servers are not encrypted. Not at the filesystem level at least.
[02:36] <photon> My brand new Ubuntu MATE 16.10 doesn't start up. I get a black screen and then a reboot. No logo or anything. I just reinstalled grub from the live cd. What should I do?
[02:36] <nicomachus> !nomodeset | photon
[02:36] <j4f-shredder> photon, you are better off making a backup and reinstalling, you probably messed up
[02:37] <photon> I have reinstalled more than 5 times and it's the same result
[02:37] <nicomachus> photon: try using the nomodeset parameter in grub, as I just said...
[02:38] <jmadero> hi all - I made a mistake and used pacmd to set input instead of output and now I can't get my mic to work at all
[02:38] <photon> Yup thanks, I was telling him what I've done
[02:38] <j4f-shredder> https://www.udemy.com/linux-security/ I'm taking that course and the guy says that if you set the pass for root on ubuntu then you are safe for physical attacks on single user mode
[02:39] <ubuinst> So anyone have a suggestion for unpacking the initramfs completely (I'm doing http://pastebin.com/eugZWxDz but it doesn't seem complete)
[02:39] <j4f-shredder> he even shows it
[02:39] <nicomachus> ubuinst: what. why would you want to do that?
[02:39] <Sean_McG> there is no security, only Zuul
[02:39] <ubuinst> I'm trying to diagnose an issue nicomachus, and I am currently in a chroot with the new install
[02:39] <ubuinst> but it doesn't boot by itself
[02:40] <ubuinst> so I want to figure out why
[02:40] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: he's wrong.
[02:40] <ubuinst> when it drops me in a shell at boot I noticed it lacks cryptsetup
[02:40] <ubuinst> and rebooting into the chroot all the time is annoying so I wanted to make sure it was in there now before I reboot
[02:41] <ubuinst> actually maybe I should generate it with -v instead :)
[02:43] <ubuinst> okay it should be alright then. Thanks for making me question my motives nicomachus. Hopefully I can boot into my system now
[02:44] <lzla> Anybody here?
[02:44] <ubuinst> about 2000 people
[02:44] <VA6DAH> ^^
[02:45] <j4f-shredder> wedgie, another method he uses is redirecting the kernel to load /bin/bash and then on that script 40_custom on the folder /etc/grub.d set superusers="root" password root root  and then encrypt the password with grub2-mkpasswd-pbkdf2
[02:45] <lzla> a chinese
[02:45] <j4f-shredder> in that way he "protects" the grub
[02:45] <j4f-shredder> in centOS I think
[02:45] <Ben64> j4f-shredder: sounds like a horrible mess
[02:46] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: drop the class and ask for your money back
[02:46] <j4f-shredder> for some reason I tend to trust "security guys"
[02:47] <ubuinst> You're probably better off reading man files
[02:47] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: don't trust anyone. Least of all us. We're random strangers on the internet. Verify for yourself that you can boot the server with a liveusb and then mount the hard drives to get full access to all the data.
[02:47] <j4f-shredder> yes
[02:47] <j4f-shredder> I will try that
[02:47] <wedgie> with or without a root password set
[02:47] <j4f-shredder> I was planning to do it
[02:47] <j4f-shredder> how do you learn about security when you don't have much time?
[02:48] <j4f-shredder> I need to focus on development
[02:48] <j4f-shredder> and I just want to keep up to date just to hire the right guys
[02:48] <j4f-shredder> If I don't know anything I can't pick wisely
[02:48] <j4f-shredder> I know is a dumb question
[02:48] <wedgie> just start with the basics. Most of the breaches you hear about are caused by something fairly basic.
[02:49] <stormmmm> hi
[02:49] <wedgie> weak passwords, poorly configured services, failure to patch, etc
[02:49] <j4f-shredder> I've seen there are online databases with xploits
[02:49] <j4f-shredder> do you use that as well?
[02:49] <Fluke_> hello i hate to ask this question but how would I remove all files in a directory with (j) in their name
[02:49] <stormmmm> does anyone know how to establish connection through bluetooth using rocket fish dongle
[02:49] <VA6DAH> Publicly accessible databases like mongodb with no passwords set. Tons of those out there.
[02:50] <Sean_McG> Fluke_: enclose it in quotes
[02:50] <bobey6> Hello :) I'm trying to use port forwarding on Ubuntu 16.04 with UFW and I seem to be having some trouble. I've added the appropriate iptables rule (iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 443 -j REDIRECT --to-port 32400) and with both ports allowed on ufw (443 & 32400) I can use port 443 and it fowards me to port 32400. If I remove the "allow port 32400" from ufw, it won't work. Is it possible to get this working so I can
[02:50] <bobey6> close the port I'm trying to forward to?
[02:50] <Fluke_> like "(j)"
[02:50] <nedstark> there is an ubuntu channel for the security people
[02:50] <Sean_McG> yes
[02:50] <nedstark> #ubuntu-hardened
[02:51] <wedgie> Fluke_: rm -- *"(j)"*
[02:52] <nedstark> many of the security updates are made through the debian project's separate security updates upstream
[02:52] <kk4ewt> Fluke_,  backup just in case
[02:52] <Fluke_> okay thank you
[02:52] <nedstark> here are some of them https://www.debian.org/security/
[02:52] <gecko_x2> hi, is there a channel for LXD issues? thanks
[02:52] <j4f-shredder> wedgie  Hey, I have to redeem the teacher of that course, he explains how to avoid single user login without a password, then how to block grub manipulation, but after that he says "but this is useless if someone has physical access cause he can insert a live cd"
[02:53] <Sean_McG> j4f-shredder: yes, or remove the drives and mount them in another computer
[02:54] <j4f-shredder> that's a good one
[02:54] <j4f-shredder> wow, I'm starting to look at things really different, how can you trust datacenters after knowing all of this?
[02:54] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: or pour coffee on it.
[02:54] <Sean_McG> you don't trust them
[02:55] <nedstark> do not trust "the cloud" unless you know as much about your cloud provider as you would know about in-house servers and who maintains them and how
[02:55] <nedstark> its just outsourced servers
[02:56] <j4f-shredder> thanks guys, but what is the common practice? to encrypt your data?
[02:57] <j4f-shredder> the guy mentions that on the course
[02:57] <j4f-shredder> as a way of mitigate the risk of physical access
[02:57] <Mis-anthrope> which course?
[02:57] <j4f-shredder> https://www.udemy.com/linux-security/
[02:58] <j4f-shredder> for 10 dollars it's quite good
[02:58] <Mis-anthrope> thanks for the info
[02:58] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: that's the key. It is only useful in cases of physical access. While the machine is running the data is decrypted (has to be for the system to work) so it is still able to be stolen via a compromise of the server
[02:58] <nedstark> encrypt your data in a way where untrusted people don't have access to encryption keys and passwords
[02:58] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: some regulatory environments require encryption.
[02:59] <j4f-shredder> ohhh yeah, I've heard abvout the os needs the data decrypted
[02:59] <nedstark> but knowing the servers are competently administered are just as important
[02:59] <wedgie> nedstark: moreso, i'd say, as remote compromise is much more likely than physical in most cases
[03:00] <wedgie> but this is running pretty off-topic, so i'll shut up about it now
[03:00] <nedstark> i'd just block all ip ranges not absolutely needed for the server to do its job
[03:00] <photon> So because I geta black screen on boot I set nomodeset on the live cd. It loaded differently, slower, and the screen glitched out so I'm guessing that isn't the problem
[03:01] <j4f-shredder> I don't understand the /dev/mapper though
[03:01] <j4f-shredder> I mean, is that here the decrypted data is stored by the dm-crypt?'
[03:01] <patientpl> i had fedora and for the last time it fubared. so im sick of it and want to install ubuntu. how do i overwrite the fedora installation partitions? When i try to do it i get a bootloader not writing error, but none of the radio button options will let me continue. How do?
[03:02] <j4f-shredder> I thought encryption was not reversible
[03:02] <patientpl> can anyone tell me how to overwite this in a way that works
[03:02] <j4f-shredder> does ubuntu saves a decrypted and an encrypted version?
[03:02] <j4f-shredder> that's what I don't understand
[03:02] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: the data is stored encrypted. But with the key it can be decrypted. So once the keys are loaded into memory you can read the data
[03:03] <j4f-shredder> so it is reversible? does it use a weaker algorythm than md5?
[03:03] <j4f-shredder> I think someone was able to reverse md5 though
[03:03] <Ben64> patientpl: format drive first
[03:03] <Ben64> j4f-shredder: you're confusing encryption with a hash
[03:04] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: of courese it's reversable. Otherwise you would never be able to read your data again
[03:04] <j4f-shredder> I'm used to development, in general you just encrypt what the user enters instead of rversing what you already have on your db
[03:04] <j4f-shredder> it's one of my weak areas though
[03:05] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: hashing is a special form of encryption that is not reversable. Different use case.
[03:05] <Ben64> sounds like you're still thinking of a hash
[03:05] <j4f-shredder> great info
[03:05] <j4f-shredder> I will read more on that
[03:05] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: passwords are typically stored salted and hashed.
[03:05] <j4f-shredder> wedgie, yes, I use bcrypt and it does what you say, it uses a salt
[03:06] <j4f-shredder> I just thought that every encryption aws irreversible and you always had to encrypt the incoming data and compare two encrypted strings
[03:06] <j4f-shredder> but it makes no sense on this context
[03:06] <j4f-shredder> now that you mention that
[03:07] <photon> Ubuntu still doesn't load up, even with nomodeset. I have installed it multiple times and I have installed grub. When I hold shift it says its loading grub but just reboots.
[03:07] <wedgie> with a password it is good enough to know that what the user submitted is the same as the password. You don't need to know what the password is, only that the user got it right. With data, you typically want to be able to read it again :P
[03:09] <j4f-shredder> wedgie, I just got confused by this graphic  https://s24.postimg.org/8c48u45ut/linux.jpg
[03:10] <j4f-shredder> it's not clear to me where would I find my data after encrypting
[03:10] <j4f-shredder> and I can't try it right now cause I have important information
[03:10] <j4f-shredder> maybe on a virtual machine
[03:10] <Ben64> what do you mean
[03:11] <j4f-shredder> If I have my data, I run the dm-crypt where does my data ends up??
[03:11] <j4f-shredder> if I want to navigate
[03:11] <j4f-shredder> to the new place
[03:11] <Ben64> it appears unencrypted in /home
[03:11] <j4f-shredder> ohhh
[03:11] <AegNuddel> Okay, my sister just got a new computer with Ubuntu on it.  It's been so long since I have used Ubuntu that I can't recall how to connect to the internet with it.  It says it detects our Ethernet, but or router has a password and I'm not sure how to put it in.
[03:11] <j4f-shredder> Ben64 but in which situation would that data be unaccesible by someone?
[03:12] <Ben64> AegNuddel: you shouldn't need a password to use ethernet
[03:12] <j4f-shredder> I mean, you do the encryption to protect your data
[03:12] <Ben64> j4f-shredder: when the computer is off
[03:12] <cipher6> Hey all! Anyone know anything about Tar and willing to explain if -f and .tar.xz are both needed on a command?
[03:12] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: dm-crypt holds the encryption keys and plays monkey-in-the-middle with requests for data. When you ask for a file in /home, it finds, decrypts, and presents it to you
[03:12] <photon> My brand new (just installed, for the 7th time) Ubuntu MATE 16.10 doesn't start up. I get a black screen and then a reboot. No logo or anything. Nomodeset appears to have made it worse. I installed grub; when I hold shift it says that it's loading it but reboots.
[03:12] <AegNuddel> Ben6, it goes through our router
[03:12] <j4f-shredder> couldn't someone run a live cd, mount the disk and then use ubuntu to decrypt it?
[03:12] <wedgie> cipher6: f is for file
[03:12] <Ben64> AegNuddel: and?
[03:12] <wedgie> cipher6: as oppsoed to stdin or something.
[03:12] <j4f-shredder> ohh
[03:12] <j4f-shredder> I get it now
[03:13] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: they could, IF they had the decryption keys
[03:13] <AegNuddel> I need to be able input the password
[03:13] <cipher6> wedgie: so F tells it to look for a file name?
[03:13] <Ben64> AegNuddel: again, what password? you don't need a password for ethernet
[03:13] <j4f-shredder> wedgie, but that keys would be only in my copy of ubuntu
[03:13] <j4f-shredder> right?
[03:13] <wedgie> cipher6: lowercase f, but yes. Either creates a file, or reads from a file, dependinng on what you're doing
[03:13] <cipher6> wedgie: can i private chat your for no more than 3 minutes? Just to verify I'm understand, Or I can cont. here is you'd prefer
[03:14] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: the way the default ubuntu encryption works is the key is encrypted with your user's password. So they'd be able to recover the encrypted file that had the key in it, but they'd need your password to actually get the key
[03:14] <Ben64> cipher6: what exactly are you not getting? have you checked 'man tar'
[03:14] <ZJAY> Is Python automagically installed on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS???
[03:14] <wedgie> cipher6: here is better
[03:14] <Ben64> ZJAY: almost assuredly
[03:14] <ZJAY> how do i add a module to it
[03:15] <j4f-shredder> supose someone inserts a live usb, enters ubuntu , mount the disk, install dm-crypt
[03:15] <cipher6> Ben64: I've successfully mad a tar.xz of my home dir, and I've read man tar (and got more confused). I just don't understand why my original command wouldn't run, and why the eventual successful cmd did.
[03:15] <j4f-shredder> what would they have to do next
[03:15] <j4f-shredder> if they had my password
[03:15] <j4f-shredder> to get access?
[03:15] <techquila> automated install using pxe + preseed.cfg: what are my options to pull in user details from an LDAP server? anyone done this successfully or can link some good docs?
[03:15] <Ben64> cipher6: well what was the first command
[03:15] <cipher6> Ben64: I can post both if you'd like to see what did v. what didn't.
[03:15] <Ben64> j4f-shredder: type it in
[03:15] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: if they have your password then they can grab the encrypted key, decrypt it, and use it to read your data
[03:15] <stormmmm> hi i need help with mrbtad bluetooth to work on ubuntu 16.04
[03:16] <Ben64> cipher6: go for it. use a pastebin service
[03:16] <wedgie> but if they have your password they don't need to go throught the hassle of live booting the thing
[03:16] <stormmmm> anyone ?
[03:16] <photon> My brand new (just installed, for the 7th time) Ubuntu MATE 16.10 doesn't start up. I get a black screen and then a reboot. No logo or anything. Nomodeset appears to have made it worse. I installed grub; when I hold shift it says that it's loading it but reboots.
[03:16] <Ben64> photon: what system
[03:16] <j4f-shredder> but once they type my password, that interchange of encrypted keys and decryption happens under the hood or the perpetrator has to do it as additional work?
[03:16] <photon> What do you mean?
[03:16] <j4f-shredder> would that be a hussle or a simple thing to do?
[03:16] <Ben64> photon: your computer, give details
[03:17] <wedgie> under the hood. Simple for anyone who knew what they're doing.
[03:17] <wedgie> j4f-shredder: and again, with physical access they could just steal the drive, take it home, and do all of this at their leisure
[03:17] <AegNuddel> ben64 our router password!
[03:17] <photon> No uefi support... Dual booted with win10 (drive disconnected ATM)?.
[03:17] <Ben64> AegNuddel: that doesn't make any sense!
[03:17] <techquila> hmmm maybe i'm in the wrong channel here
[03:18] <AegNuddel> I'm on the wifi
[03:18] <AegNuddel> so
[03:18] <Ben64> AegNuddel: you said ethernet
[03:18] <j4f-shredder> wedgie, thanks , I will watch some videos on that
[03:18] <AegNuddel> yes
[03:18] <j4f-shredder> I need to see it in action
[03:18] <Ben64> ethernet is not wifi
[03:18] <j4f-shredder> to fully grasp the final steps of the perpetration
[03:18] <Ben64> j4f-shredder: really, don't bother with encryption
[03:18] <cipher6> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/06wiUTVP
[03:18] <cipher6> wedgie: http://pastebin.com/06wiUTVP
[03:19] <photon> My brand new (just installed, for the 7th time) Ubuntu MATE 16.10 doesn't start up. I get a black screen and then a reboot. No logo or anything. Nomodeset appears to have made it worse. I installed grub; when I hold shift it says that it's loading it but reboots.
[03:19] <j4f-shredder> Ben64, it was just for educational purposes
[03:19] <crazyhorse> i'm continuously getting a message that says "system problem detected"
[03:19] <AegNuddel> we;re trying to connect hers directly
[03:19] <crazyhorse> is there a log file i can look up to see more details?
[03:19] <wedgie> cipher6: without the -f tar doesn't know to create a file. Instead it would output to stdout (aka, spew all over your terminal)
[03:19] <Ben64> cipher6: well yeah you need to specify the file with -f
[03:19] <cipher6> Ben64: Since the cmd worked, I'm not distraught, but I want to know why, not just how.
[03:20] <Ben64> photon: your computer, give details!
[03:20] <Ben64> photon: repeating the same no information doesn't help
[03:20] <wedgie> cipher6: though do note that your final command did not use compression at all, despite your .tar.xz extension
[03:20] <photon> I did!
[03:20] <Ben64> photon: you did not
[03:21] <cipher6> wedgie: Damn it, why not? I thought that putting .xz would make it use the compression method appended??
[03:21] <Ben64> cipher6: file extensions don't matter at all
[03:21] <wedgie> cipher6: the -J flag makes it use xz compression.
[03:21] <photon> No uefi support, amd cpu, radeon graphics, (yes I ded xD)
[03:21] <Ben64> photon: keep going, more information
[03:21] <wedgie> cipher6: the file extension could be herp.derp and it is still the same thing
[03:21] <photon> What do you need?
[03:21] <Ben64> all of it
[03:21] <photon> Using a sandisk ssd
[03:21] <photon> Erm
[03:22] <wedgie> cipher6: tar -cJf tmparchive.tar.xz /home/cipher6   (you shouldn't need the sudo)
[03:22] <cipher6> wedgie: Then can you show me what the correct flag would be? maybe -cfJv? (Also this may sound really dumb, but do flags have to be given alphabetically? )
[03:22] <photon> Dual bios... Unable to boot from usb... External graphics...
[03:22] <cipher6> wedgie: You read my mind
[03:22] <photon> 16gb ddr3 ram
[03:23] <wedgie> cipher6: no, flags don't have to be given alphabetically. Only order that matters is if the flag takes an argument (like a file name for -f)
[03:23] <Ben64> cipher6: one thing to note is you need to have -f filename in that order
[03:23] <photon> Currently connected via ethernet, butbI have a wifi usb dongle
[03:23] <cipher6> Ben64: So f should be the last flag b/c it takes an argument //after the f?
[03:23] <photon> Is that enough?
[03:23] <Ben64> cipher6: that's how i do it
[03:23] <cipher6> wedgie: ^^^ Same question
[03:24] <cipher6> Ben64, so that's the only way?
[03:24] <Ben64> no
[03:24] <cipher6> So I thought I was compressing files, and i'm just making falsely named tarballs.
[03:24] <photon> Ben64: is that enough info?
[03:24] <AegNuddel> no it's not but we can have both wifi andethernet connections, no?
[03:24] <cipher6> Back to the drawing board
[03:24] <Ben64> cipher6: use "file" to check what the file actually is
[03:24] <photon> AegNuddel: one at a time
[03:25] <cipher6> Ben64: tmparchive.tar.xz: POSIX tar archive (GNU)
[03:25] <cipher6> but I'm guessing POSIX is not .xz
[03:25] <Ben64> tar archive = tar
[03:26] <j4f-shredder> one thing, SHREDS it's a utility to do low level format or it's used for testing with dummy data?
[03:26] <cipher6> and POSIX is not xz.....
[03:26] <Ben64> cipher6: ignore posix
[03:26] <Ben64> j4f-shredder: shred?
[03:27] <j4f-shredder> yeah, I saw a guy doing that before an encryption
[03:27] <j4f-shredder> and I don't know if it's to test the encryption process or to delete the previous data
[03:27] <LiftLeft> in lubuntu when I disconnect my second monitor from my laptop, lubuntu still acts as if there's a second monitor and doesn't move the programs to the laptop's screen.
[03:27] <Ben64>        shred - overwrite a file to hide its contents, and optionally delete it
[03:27] <Ben64> from the shred man page
[03:27] <j4f-shredder> yeah, but the guy made iterations
[03:28] <j4f-shredder> that's what it made me think if he wasnt' generating dummy data
[03:28] <j4f-shredder> just to test
[03:28] <j4f-shredder> the encryption process
[03:28] <j4f-shredder> I think he made it to remove completely previous existing data
[03:28] <j4f-shredder> cause I think encryption deletes all your data but I think it makes a high level format only
[03:28] <FG2> hi im farshad , i love hacking , im a starter , my english are weak , im from iran
[03:29] <AegNuddel> photon, the cable company recommended one computer being physically connected to the internet while the others are on wi-fi
[03:29] <wedgie> FG2: hi, farshad. Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[03:29] <photon> Ben64: trying 16.10 on a sandisk ssd (sdb). Once this is fixed I will plug the windows 10 drive back in as drive 0. Internet: ethernet (active), wireless (dongle). Ram: 16gb ddr3; graphics: radeon; bios: phoenix; unable to boot with USB; is this enough info
[03:29] <photon> K
[03:29] <FG2> wedgie : no
[03:30] <cipher6> Ben64: Going back to man tar, i found v, so I could append my flag to be -cJvf
[03:30] <wedgie> cipher6: you could. That will just show your what files are going into the archive. Optional.
[03:30] <cipher6> ben64: and it will show me the progress in the term, should I use the flag to drop the /'s?
[03:30] <cipher6> wedgie:  should i flag to drop /'s?
[03:30] <Ben64> cipher6: what does that mean
[03:31] <wedgie> cipher6: that shouldn't be necessary
[03:31] <cipher6> Ben64: ....I don't know, that's why I'm here ;)
[03:31] <Ben64> you asked it
[03:31] <cipher6> wedgie: what would be an instance in which i would WANT to use the flag to remove the leading /'s?
[03:32] <wedgie> Ben64: he's talking about the "tar: Removing leading `/' from member names" message he got from his tar command
[03:32] <Ben64> oh
[03:32] <cipher6> ben64: There is a flag that says "drop leading /'s"  I didn't use it, but the terminal decided it was going to?
[03:33] <wedgie> cipher6: a flag didn't cause that. It's default behavior. Makes it so that you can extract the archive somewhere besides the root if you wanted to. It's a good thing
[03:33] <cipher6> ben64: from man tar -P, --absolute-names don't strip leading '/'s from file names
[03:33] <photon> Ben64: trying 16.10 on a sandisk ssd (sdb). Once this is fixed I will plug the windows 10 drive back in as drive 0. Internet: ethernet (active), wireless (dongle). Ram: 16gb ddr3; graphics: radeon; bios: phoenix; unable to boot with USB; issue: black screen on boot, grub displays nothing. Extra info: nomodeset doesn't help.
[03:33] <cipher6> wedgie: OH, so using -P for a system back up, would be beneficial?
[03:34] <Ben64> photon: try 16.04
[03:34] <wedgie> cipher6: uh... i don't think I would... I don't normally try to back up whole systems into a tar archive though
[03:35] <cipher6> I don't either, but then again, I'm not very good at this. I usually just use the gui, but i'm a lowest tier tech in a NOC and want to move towards one of the linux admin teams in the next 24mos
[03:35] <cipher6> wedgie: so i'm just creating projects for myself
[03:35] <wedgie> cipher6: i'll put it to you this way: I've never used the -P flag
[03:35] <wedgie> cipher6: good deal.
[03:36] <wedgie> cipher6: i suggest an army of VMs to play with :)
[03:36] <LiftLeft> in lubuntu when I disconnect my second monitor from my laptop, lubuntu still acts as if there's a second monitor and doesn't move the programs to the laptop's screen.
[03:36] <wedgie> cipher6: anyway, time for me to leave. Good luck :)
[03:37] <cipher6> wedgie: I just built an 32gb i5 system and installed vbox, and dl'd OpenSUSE and CentOS, so far, my lack of terminal skills hasn't gotten me very far
[03:37] <cipher6> wedgie: but thank you for the kind words and assistance!
[03:37] <cipher6> Ben64: you as well!
[03:47] <j4f-shredder> when does pam authentication modules make sense?
[03:47] <j4f-shredder> againtst the conventional authentication method?
[03:50] <kk4ewt> j4f-shredder,  pam is the conventional auth method
[03:51] <kk4ewt> unless you are referring to someother method like kerberos and ldap
[03:51] <j4f-shredder> but it works in order? is it like a filter of different layers?
[03:51] <j4f-shredder> you start by pam_securetty.so, then if you pass you go to the next file pam_unix.so and so on?
[03:52] <kk4ewt> and google says
[03:52] <j4f-shredder> man doesn't say anything
[03:52] <j4f-shredder> about pam
[03:52] <j4f-shredder> and google info is not clear enough for my level
[03:52] <j4f-shredder> I read the docs
[03:52] <j4f-shredder> but the flow is not clear
[03:52] <kk4ewt> i am sure PAM has more documentation
[03:53] <j4f-shredder> I'm a noob to be honest
[03:54] <j4f-shredder> yeah, I think the directives run in order
[03:54] <kk4ewt> http://www.linux-pam.org/Linux-PAM-html
[03:54] <j4f-shredder> it's like a filter
[03:54] <kk4ewt> PAM is Pluggable Auth modules
[03:54] <j4f-shredder> all the directives must be successful in order for the user to be authenticated
[03:54] <j4f-shredder> according to this
[03:54] <kk4ewt> it has different layers
[03:55] <j4f-shredder> PAM_SUCCESS      Access was granted.
[03:55] <oniichan1> yooo
[03:56] <user_> bas
[03:56] <user_> hi
[03:56] <user_> gdr6e65ydt
[03:56] <user_> lkoiuhgytfrdse
[03:56] <user_> koijhytgfrdeswa
[03:56] <user_> ;iuytrew
[03:56] <user_> ;ojiuytrewqawsdfghjbnm
[03:56] <user_> ;lpoiuytresdfghjkl;'
[03:57] <j4f-shredder> kk4ewt, but in which file should I list the directives  auth  required  pam_securetty.so
[03:57] <j4f-shredder> like that
[03:57] <j4f-shredder> in those docs only mentions
[03:57] <j4f-shredder> the /etc/security/access.conf
[03:58] <Gaming4JC> NetworkManager cannot run pre-up scripts, even at the dawn of a new centuary... sad... :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/336736
[04:04] <j4f-shredder> I have one more question please, I note that my vps has /etc/passwd an  "x" on the password field
[04:04] <j4f-shredder> but I have no /etc/shadow
[04:04] <j4f-shredder> file
[04:04] <j4f-shredder> why?
[04:05] <j4f-shredder> I opened the shadow file with sudo
[04:05] <j4f-shredder> but it has an asterisk on the password field
[04:05] <aj_> hallow
[04:06] <j4f-shredder> when the encrypted password should be there
[04:06] <kk4ewt> ask the VPS provider
[04:07] <AegNuddel> ok it does TRY to connect
[04:07] <j4f-shredder> kk4ewt, I can see that the daemons and services accounts has * but now I see the users I created has the encrypted password on the field
[04:07] <j4f-shredder> it looks like only human users has encrypted password
[04:08] <j4f-shredder> www-data for example has asterisk
[04:08] <j4f-shredder> it may be cause it doesn't have shell login
[04:08] <j4f-shredder> I don't know
[04:14] <icedwater> Hi, it looks like my upstart has had problems running my indicator-datetime-service, where might I look to start debugging this?
[04:18] <genewitch> how do i make ubuntu desktop 16.10 not load GUI by default? the /etc/default/grub method of adding "text" to the grub_command_linux doesn't work
[04:18] <ubuntu> hi
[04:18] <ubuntu> im in super need of help
[04:18] <icedwater> patientpl: hello, how can we help?
[04:18] <patientpl> hi
[04:18] <patientpl> ok
[04:19] <patientpl> i was doing everything i could to get ubuntu to work and so right now im on a live sd card and no other install on my  computer
[04:19] <patientpl> totally clean
[04:19] <patientpl> HOWEVER
[04:19] <patientpl> when i try and install i get the following error
[04:19] <icedwater> genewitch: I'm assuming you remembered to update-grub on the right device after that? I haven't done what you're doing in a while, but I often forgot that step
[04:19] <patientpl> executing 'grub-install /dev/mmcblk0' failed
[04:20] <icedwater> Hmm, are you trying to install onto an SSD, or something?
[04:20] <patientpl> there's nothing on my computer but a completely clean partition (single partition) and yet im getting this error from a live sd card
[04:20] <patientpl> which is WEIRD
[04:20] <icedwater> Ah, SD, sorry
[04:20] <patientpl> no its a bootable sd
[04:20] <patientpl> sorry should have said
[04:20] <icedwater> Did you pick the right partition to install on?
[04:21] <patientpl> so.
[04:21] <patientpl> totally clean partition
[04:21] <patientpl> i let ubuntu wipe and start from scratch
[04:21] <patientpl> i select the option that says "delete and overwrite"
[04:21] <icedwater> I mean, it looks like you're trying to install on your SD, which you probably don't want since that's where the install files are...
[04:21] <patientpl> ah no
[04:21] <patientpl> i dont think i am....
[04:22] <patientpl> hold on
[04:22] <patientpl> ill get to the prompt and tell you
[04:22] <icedwater> I am only guessing based on /dev/mmcblk0, the hard disk shouldn't be recognised as that.
[04:22] <icedwater> OK :)
[04:25] <patientpl> i think that's what it might be doing
[04:25] <patientpl> so basically the auto option is a tard
[04:25] <icedwater> patientpl: are you installing from some CLI, or the clickable stuff in the live SD?
[04:26] <patientpl> second one
[04:26] <jeffrey_f> Does a LiveCD exist that will boot up a PXE server with an existing ISO?  What I need to accomplish: Boot a 486 computer and install any 32 bit Linux distro.  I know, get rid of the computer.....But it was free!!!!
[04:26] <icedwater> The last time I did that (not 16.10) I had an option to select the partition to install to, did you miss that?
[04:26] <icedwater> Probably somewhere after or around the filesystem step...
[04:26] <patientpl> yeah im going to try that
[04:26] <patientpl> rebooting
[04:27] <patientpl> thanks
[04:27] <Speiros> jeffrey_f If it's any consolation, I was using a 486 earlier this...I mean last year.
[04:29] <genewitch> icedwater: yes
[04:29] <jeffrey_f> Speiros: This is to be a repurposed computer just a web computer for my organization.  I can't boot USB, I don't have any cd-r's and PXE seems to be the only answer, if it exists.
[04:29] <genewitch> how do i make ubuntu desktop 16.10 not load GUI by default? the /etc/default/grub method of adding "text" to the grub_command_linux doesn't work; i ran update-grub and rebooted, gui still pops right up, no splash now though
[04:30] <Speiros> jeffrey_f I'm unsure, but maybe an external DVD drive?
[04:30] <genewitch> he said no usb
[04:31] <icedwater> No bootable USB, though
[04:31] <Speiros> genewitch Good point, it won't work there then...hmm
[04:31] <icedwater> External drive should be OK, I think
[04:31] <jeffrey_f> Speiros: If I had CD-r's to burn an image to.
[04:31] <genewitch> pxe isn't that hard to set up, really
[04:31] <Speiros> genewitch I presumed jeffrey_f meant he had ubuntu on a usb stick, and it wouldn't boot, not that there were no usb ports.
[04:32] <stormmmm> if you have any rewriteable cd around  you can back up the contents of that rewriteable then erase it so you can burn the  image on that disk
[04:33] <jeffrey_f> icedwater: 486 doesn't know about the portable drives I have.  Can't read them due to size probably
[04:33] <icedwater> Probably. Hmm.
[04:34] <genewitch> jeffrey_f: no floppy?
[04:34] <jeffrey_f> Hrmmmm.  I have a box of them.  I have no other system that has a floppy drive.  LOL
[04:34] <jeffrey_f> Era disparity.
[04:35] <genewitch> you're gunna need to go buy some cd-r
[04:35] <genewitch> a machine 486 era is probably not going to do PXE correctly, so you'd have to boot to floppy first, then pxe boot
[04:35] <icedwater> jeffrey_f: genewitch probably has the best option, but your PXE issue has got me curious too :)
[04:35] <icedwater> Ah
[04:36] <genewitch> you can try tho, see if the BIOS will let you set network as a valid boot choice
[04:36] <genewitch> some older machines came with network cards without the PXE chip
[04:36] <jeffrey_f> gonna check
[04:36] <genewitch> if that's the case, you need a floppy or CD-ROM to bootstrap the tftp client and bootp client
[04:38] <genewitch> brb i am gunna reboot and try sudo systemctl start multi-user.target
[04:38] <icedwater> OK
[04:39] <jeffrey_f> Definite on network boot
[04:42] <genewitch> that worked
[04:42] <genewitch> sudo systemctl enable multi-user.target && sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target && sudo reboot
[04:43] <genewitch> that made it boot text only
[04:43] <genewitch> i have a gig free memory now, even with everything loaded.
[04:43] <jeffrey_f> icedwater: genewitch - http://www.ultimatedeployment.org
[04:44] <genewitch> what is that
[04:45] <jeffrey_f> looks like a pxe deployment solution
[04:45] <genewitch> all you need to pxe boot is a dhcp server that supports options and a tftp server to send the kernel
[04:46] <genewitch> when the nic's mac is seen by dhcpd, it tells the nic to fetch it's boot files from the tftp's IP address, and any other options it needs
[04:48] <jeffrey_f> genewitch: The setup is just a pain in the but.
[04:58] <icedwater> genewitch: good to know. Does your use case include web browsing and the occasional youtube video, for instance?
[05:18] <slicktux> 0.0
[05:26] <plaguenet> yo
[05:28] <icedwater> plaguenet: hi
[05:34] <priporg> it seems updating software in the gui can be problematic. i'm experiencing a slight problem with software updating in software centre; it says installing updates has finished but the window is not closing and cursor is spining around constantly.
[05:35] <cfhowlett> priporg, kill it an use the terminal.  you need only 2 commands
[05:35] <kode54> someone in another channel is trying to "run" the official Ubuntu Docker image in daemon mode and wondering why it immediately exits
[05:36] <cfhowlett> kode54, direct him to this channel
[05:36] <kode54> they're trying to run it on that channel's distro
[05:36] <priporg> cfhowlett, how do i kill it? clicking on the (x) in window is not responding.
[05:36] <cfhowlett> kode54, so not ubuntu.  then they can get support from their OS channel.
[05:37] <kode54> yup
[05:37] <cfhowlett> priporg, open your terminal and run ps -x
[05:37] <kode54> which doesn't provide official support, since they can't be bothered to man their channel with actual staff
[05:37] <cfhowlett> near the end of the list, you should see "updater"
[05:37] <kode54> I'll direct them to post on their distribution's forums
[05:38] <cfhowlett> kode54, not running ubuntu, not our problem.  folks who need support might do well to select an OS that actually offers support.  (hint: ubuntu!)
[05:39] <kode54> this OS also charges people depending on how many hard drives they have installed in their machine
[05:39] <priporg> cfhowlett, i see /usr/bin/update-manager --no-update
[05:39] <kode54> it's one of those "NAS" OSes
[05:39] <cfhowlett> priporg, there's a number to the left.  kill -9 <number>
[05:39] <kode54> I call it a toy
[05:39] <g3> terminal: xkill click the window you want to kill
[05:40] <cfhowlett> kode54, rather off-topic here.  shall we move on to ubuntu support?
[05:40] <kode54> I'll shut up about that now :D
[05:43] <priporg> cfhowlett, thanks. it worked. now doing the update in terminal.
[05:43] <cfhowlett> priporg, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[05:44] <priporg> someone told me to do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:44] <cfhowlett> same result
[05:55] <priporg> cfhowlett, yes you're right. your way is the apt way :) thank you
[05:56] <cfhowlett> priporg, happy2help1
[06:12] <egsome> OK, Again, Touchpad is not working on the latest kernel ! ( details: http://askubuntu.com/questions/865267/touchpad-not-working-after-kernel-upgrade-to-4-4-0-57-on-16-04-1 )
[06:20] <xangua> egsome: it's working on my laptop with that kernel
[06:21] <Fildo> hello everyone
[06:39] <xXEoflaOEXx> Fildo, Hello
[06:41] <Goldschlager120> Hello
[06:41] <ensyde> hi
[06:42] <Goldschlager120> I have a question on virtual desktop
[06:44] <Goldschlager120> If I have Orcle VM Virtual Box w/ Ubuntu on it. Can I use a system with wtware to connect to it?
[06:46] <shodaner> list channels
[06:46] <Goldschlager120> Any takers on that?
[06:50] <ducasse> Goldschlager120: you mea
[06:50] <ducasse> Goldschlager120: you mean create it with vbox and run with vmware?
[06:51] <Goldschlager120> ducasse, essentially.
[06:51] <Goldschlager120> It would be a thin client connecting
[06:52] <ducasse> Goldschlager120: i know there is something called ovf (open virtualization format) that should allow that, but i don't know if those two support it - i only use kvm.
[06:52] <Goldschlager120> ducasse, what's kvm
[06:52] <ducasse> Goldschlager120: the virt built-in to the linux kernel
[06:53] <ducasse> Goldschlager120: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page
[06:53] <Goldschlager120> ducasse, on it :)
[06:55] <Goldschlager120> ducasse, I'm struggling with a bit here. I have to have the Virtual Desktop running on the server. Just to confirm?
[06:56] <ducasse> Goldschlager120: virtual desktops are a completely different thing from virtual machines.
[06:56] <ducasse> Goldschlager120: but you can run a vm on the server and connect over the network, yes.
[06:57] <Goldschlager120> ducasse, Which is better?
[06:58] <ducasse> Goldschlager120: you don't understand - 'virtual desktop' is the term for switchable workspaces under a desktop environment, it has nothing to do with virtualization.
[06:59] <Goldschlager120> ducasse, I used Citrix at my last job. Would of a thin client been connecting to a virtual machine for that?
[07:00] <Billias> good day
[07:00] <Billias> I have some issues with the DHclient under ubuntu
[07:01] <Billias> with ipv6 and static lease
[07:02] <ducasse> Goldschlager120: most likely, i'd think
[07:03] <Goldschlager120> ducasse, so with that. Do I just simply connect to my ubuntu machine w/ rdp or is there a different or better method?
[07:05] <ducasse> Goldschlager120: i've only ever used vnc for things like that, but really only use ssh. all i know is that several of the desktops for ubuntu have trouble displaying remotely because of hardware accelleration.
[07:07] <Goldschlager120> ducasse, I guess I have some learning to do :) Thanks for your input
[07:07] <ducasse> !ltsp | Goldschlager120 maybe this can help
[07:07] <ducasse> Goldschlager120: is that what you're looking for?
[07:08] <Goldschlager120> ducasse, yes i believe so
[07:08] <ducasse> Goldschlager120: follow those links and find out :)
[07:09] <kasumi> privacy focus torrent search engine https://www.skytorrents.in
[07:09] <bazhang> kasumi, how is that topical here
[07:10] <cfhowlett> spammy, kasumi.  please don't
[07:10] <kasumi> ubuntu users might want to to do a torrent search with privacy
[07:10] <thanato5> kasumi are you a bot..?
[07:10] <cfhowlett> kasumi, no one mentioned that topic.  do not spam here.
[07:10] <bazhang> kasumi, take it elsewhere
[07:10] <kasumi> definitely no
[07:10] <Billias> definitely yes
[07:10] <thanato5> possibly... yes
[07:11] <thanato5> hah. definitely yes.
[07:11] <kasumi> i was replying about me being BOT
[07:11] <Billias> thanatos, nice nick.
[07:11] <bazhang> lets return to ubuntu support please
[07:11] <thanato5> technically it is thanato5, but yes, thank you. I like it.
[07:12] <Billias> On Ubuntu support: I am trying to get some IPv6 address lease on my systems. And it works nicely. BUT If i use the identifier of the client and set a static v6, then I get no Address, but the client decides.
[07:13] <Billias> the same doesn't happen on my mac book for instance. There the v6 Static lease works properly.
[07:13] <Billias> i tried both dhcpcd5 and dhclient :\ I do something wrong
[07:14] <Billias> My DHCPv6 server is only offering stateful adresses. Anybody with experience?
[07:15] <Goldschlager120> ducasse, ever use it LTSP before?
[07:15] <ducasse> Goldschlager120: afraid not, just thought it might help you.
[07:15] <fw_> hi
[07:15] <Goldschlager120> ducasse, well thank you. I think that's a step in the right direction.
[07:15] <fw_> i need support regarding fwbuilder
[07:15] <fw_> anyone here can help me
[07:16] <cfhowlett> !ask | fw_
[07:16] <ducasse> Goldschlager120: you're very welcome
[07:16] <fw_> sorry, i'm new in ubuntu forum, thanks for remind me
[07:16] <Goldschlager120> ducasse, Found an irc channel just for it :)
[07:16] <somaReverse> Hi, I have a binary that depends on custom gcc https://ptpb.pw/TEu9 . How can I bake in libgcc_s.so and libstdc++.so so this binary can be portable ?
[07:18] <fw_> i got problem with managing iptables with fwbuilder, as soon as i install rules creating in fwbuilder i unable to ping other machine, if i add the firewall rule manualy i able to ping
[07:18] <cfhowlett> fw_, ufw is the ubuntu default FW.
[07:18] <cfhowlett> !ufw
[07:20] <mihir> hi can anyone fix my issue
[07:20] <ducasse> !ask | mihir
[07:20] <mihir> i currently installed ubuntu
[07:21] <icedwater> mihir: go on
[07:21] <mihir> but it stuck at purple screen
[07:21] <mihir> wht to do
[07:21] <Antares> ...
[07:21] <cfhowlett> mihir, first stop hitting the <enter> key.  second, read the nomodeset options
[07:21] <mihir> i hv i3 quadcore with intel hd graphics with 4gb ram
[07:21] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | mircica
[07:23] <mihir> le
[07:23] <mihir> let me try with nomodeset once again
[07:39] <burlingk> I have just tried to log into a 16.04 server using SFTP, and the system is refusing the connection.  I am able to connect using SSH no problem.  When I search on how to set up SFTP, all of the tutorials say to install mysecureshell and then use usermod -s... Which isn't a viable option because I still need to use SSH connections.  What am I likely missing? ^^
[07:41] <hateball> burlingk: SFTP is for file transfers, not interactive shells
[07:41] <burlingk> Exactly
[07:41] <laravelnewbie> hi
[07:41] <burlingk> hateball, I need to upload files using SFTP, while still being able to use SSH for bash.
[07:42] <burlingk> The tutorials I find seem to make it one or the other... And in older versions, it just kind of worked out of the box once openssh was installed.
[07:42] <laravelnewbie> Any Good Icons for Ubuntu gnome desktop icons is not good looking
[07:42] <hateball> burlingk: That would be the default behavior tho?
[07:43] <hateball> !scp
[07:43] <laravelnewbie> !rysnc
[07:43] <burlingk> hateball, For some reason, I can connect to ssh and get a bash shell.  But every sftp client says it is rejecting the connection.
[07:43] <laravelnewbie> !rsync
[07:44] <hateball> burlingk: and you're not confusing SFTP with FTPS ?
[07:44] <laravelnewbie> burlingk port is block?
[07:44] <burlingk> laravelnewbie, If the port was blocked, ssh wouldn't work.
[07:44] <laravelnewbie> it would say connection refused or connection timeout
[07:44] <burlingk> hateball, WinSCP is my default goto.
[07:45] <hateball> burlingk: and you're trying to connect how? in a LAN? Over the internet?
[07:45] <burlingk> in googling around, I found the suggestion that FileZilla might work  Gave it a try, no joy there either.  It's saying connection refused.
[07:45] <burlingk> Over the internet.
[07:46] <laravelnewbie> default is FTP check what port it uses i suspect ftp port is being used
[07:46] <laravelnewbie> i use CoreFtp
[07:46] <hateball> burlingk: do you only have windows clients, or do you have a linux machine to simply use scp with?
[07:47] <burlingk> ftp is connection refused as well (thankfully)
[07:48] <laravelnewbie> use http://www.canyouseeme.org/ it will tell which port are open :)
[07:48]  * burlingk goes to check something.
[07:48] <laravelnewbie> i had same problem with other os when i browser that site it solved fastest :)
[07:49] <burlingk> I think I figured out the problem and am going to kick myself a few times. O.o
[07:49] <burlingk> Ok... I am dumb. O.o
[07:49] <burlingk> I figured out the problem.
[07:50] <laravelnewbie> now it works?
[07:50] <burlingk> I changed the default port... And updated the settings in my ssh client... But not my SFTP client.
[07:50] <burlingk> Feel free to mock me. ^^;
[07:51] <diablo_> Hello everyone. I have a question about setup of openVPN under a double NAT network. Can anyone assist or PM?
[07:52] <hateball> burlingk: Well, good it's working then
[07:53] <hateball> !help | diablo_
[07:55] <laravelnewbie> any good icons for Ubuntu Gnome Desktop?
[07:56] <diablo_> Sorry hateball. So my apartment complex has a router for the entire complex. All ports are open but they won't allow port forwarding. I have a personal router connected to the apartment router which allows my personal computers to connect to the internet. I want to setup an Ubuntu openVPN server and remotely connect to it via an external client. However, the internet (external) ip is given to the apartment router and not directly con
[07:57] <raul782> Hi guys, I'm running precise and when installing mod_auth_openidc, I get this error /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.10: version `OPENSSL_1.0.1_EC' not found (required by /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_auth_openidc.so)
[07:57] <diablo_> How can I setup openVPN when any external client will only see the apartment complex server?
[07:58] <hateball> diablo_: I dont know, I was just telling you to ask the question. Now someone else may be able to help :)
[07:59] <laravelnewbie> raul782 i think you don't have apache ssl something
[07:59] <diablo_> If I setup my personal router as a switch I can only use the internet on one device as the isp will tie my internet connection to a specific physical address
[08:00] <raul782> apache is installed, I actually installed libssl1.0.0
[08:00] <laravelnewbie> sudo a2enmod ssl
[08:01] <wedgie> diablo_: your description of the problem got cut off, but if you cant port forward you wint be hosting any services.
[08:02] <hateball> laravelnewbie: That's not at all related to the issue raul782 is having
[08:02] <diablo_> could i setup a dedicated server as my router which also host my vpn? then set the actual router as a switch and have the host server assign ip's?
[08:03] <diablo_> So my apartment complex has a router for the entire complex. All ports are open but they won't allow port forwarding. I have a personal router connected to the apartment router which allows my personal computers to connect to the internet. I want to setup an Ubuntu openVPN server and remotely connect to it via an external client. However, the internet (external) ip is given to the apartment router and not directly connected to my per
[08:04] <hateball> raul782: does /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.10 exist?
[08:04] <raul782> yep, I did RUN ln -s /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.1.0.0 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.10
[08:04] <wedgie> diablo_: does the wan interface get a publically routable ip? if not no ammount of fiddling on your end will fix this. the outside world needs to be able to reach the openvpn port.
[08:05] <wedgie> and your description cut off again. irc has line length limits
[08:05] <laravelnewbie> OPENSSL_1.0.1_EC google give centos
[08:05] <hateball> raul782: 1.0.0 is not 1.0.1 tho... if that could be the problem. I wonder if I have a 12.04 system handy to look at
[08:05] <diablo_> essential I have external ip being 12.*.*.* which is tied to apartment router. Personal router is assigned IP 172.*.*.* which then assigns ip's of 192.168.*.*...
[08:06] <wedgie> diablo_: then you need to be able to port forward from tha appts router
[08:06] <raul782> hateball: http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/precise/libssl1.0.0
[08:07] <hateball> raul782: hmm, seems to be 1.0.1 yea
[08:07] <diablo_> i haven't tested it yet but i'm pretty sure if i directly connect my computer directly to the apartment given switch I can VPN into my server. It's when adding a second router where I have a problem
[08:07] <wedgie> diablo_: if one works the other can too.
[08:08] <diablo_> IE external IP is 12.*.*.* which assigns my server ip 172.*.*.*. all ports are open on the external router so i cant see why it wouldn't work as long as i setup a static ip on my router
[08:09] <wedgie> diablo_: if you direct connect that way, your computer will have a 172 address. how does a computer on the internet reach it?
[08:09] <raul782> laravelnewbie: It's true I'm using a prebuilt module for openidc
[08:09] <raul782> hateball: I looked if precise had this package but no luck, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libapache2-mod-auth-openidc
[08:09] <raul782> hateball: Does that mean I need to build it manually?
[08:10] <wedgie> diablo_: the answer is that it cant *unless* the complex's router port forwards to it
[08:10] <diablo_> well when i setup openvpn before openvpn recognized the IP assigned to the computer and also requested the external IP. I guess I don't see a difference here.
[08:11] <hateball> raul782: upgrading to Xenial is not an option? Precise goes EOL in a few months anyhow
[08:12] <raul782> I'm running a docker container based on precise and ruby 1.9.3, we're looking to migrate but not at this moment.
[08:12] <Ben64> raul782: you have 3 months
[08:13] <raul782> Ben64: That's enough time, but I'm trying to make this work first https://packages.debian.org/stable/web/libapache2-mod-auth-openidc
[08:14] <Ben64> a debian package? nope
[08:14] <raul782> could I download the deb file and manually install it ?
[08:14] <Ben64> nooope
[08:14] <raul782> ok
[08:15] <raul782> Ben64: so not any binary is compatible with precise correct https://github.com/pingidentity/mod_auth_openidc/releases ?
[08:16] <Ben64> you can do whatever you want, but it's not supported here at all
[08:16] <xXEoflaOEXx> raul782, Why not just upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04? Trusty has this package.
[08:17] <raul782> yeah, looking for a docker image that has ubuntu 14.04+ and ruby 1.9.x
[08:17] <bernd> Hi all. I have a problem with a (nearly) fresh installed ubuntu 16.04. The shutdown dialog only offers lock and logout. This seems a popular problem but I did not find any working solution or further hints for debugging.
[08:18] <fherdom> recomendations for backup software?
[08:18] <plaguenet> yo
[08:18] <ducasse> fherdom: if you want a gui, backintime is nice
[08:20] <fherdom> and in command line?
[08:20] <Ben64> rsync
[08:20] <ducasse> fherdom: i use attic, but rsync/rsnapshot is probably more commonly used
[08:21] <fherdom> thx ducasse
[08:28] <plaguenet> is it possible to use a different package manager on ubuntu?
[08:28] <Ben64> not while staying sane
[08:29] <plaguenet> lol what?
[08:29] <hateball> plaguenet: different as opposed to what
[08:31] <plaguenet> yum or maybe pacman
[08:31] <Ben64> just install redhat or arch
[08:32] <rape-the-world> hello
[08:32] <rape-the-world> rape rape rape
[08:32] <rape-the-world> i said offensive word "rape"
[08:32] <rape-the-world> so i rape the channel
[08:32] <plaguenet> so it isnt possible?
[08:33] <rape-the-world> when i rape the keyboars with my rapestick
[08:33] <rape-the-world> plaguenet: it is definitely possible
[08:33] <Ben64> plaguenet: do what you want, it's not supported here though
[08:33] <rape-the-world> to rape your mother
[08:33] <rape-the-world> go try it
[08:33] <rape-the-world> its a lot of fun
[08:33] <digital_ghost> what's the difference between "console , Terminal & shell" ?
[08:33] <rape-the-world> raping rapists is so awesome
[08:33] <plaguenet> Ben64: oh okay that you
[08:33] <rape-the-world> because rape is funny
[08:33] <plaguenet> *thank
[08:33] <rape-the-world> i raped a pillow once
[08:34] <rape-the-world> the pillow said thanks
[08:34] <rape-the-world> so i raped it again
[08:34] <rape-the-world> because of the rape
[08:34] <rape-the-world> i rape things, because things get raped
[08:34] <rape-the-world> rape
[08:34] <rape-the-world> rape
[08:38] <elias_a> Could someone please kick&ban this moron, please!
[08:39] <ducasse> digital_ghost: console is what you get to with ctrl+alt+f1..f6, by 'terminal' people usually mean a terminal emulator program like xterm, and a shell is for example bash, csh or zsh - the command interpreter.
[08:41] <digital_ghost> ducasse:k, so basically the "tty" are console and Gnome terminal or xterm is a terminal emulator.But lot of people use console and terminal interchangeably?
[08:42] <ducasse> digital_ghost: they shouldn't, a console and a terminal are two different things. although both let you interact with the system.
[08:43] <ducasse> digital_ghost: historically, a terminal refers to terminals like the dec vt100 or vt220. they were connected vie serial to a mainframe to allow for multiple users.
[08:43] <ducasse> *via
[08:47] <sveinse> I have an interesting thing on my laptop: I have triple screen, two external screens, one laptop built-in. When I move my mouse over to the laptop screen, the "viewport" on the two other screens scroll along.
[08:48] <sveinse> I run 16.04 and gnome shell. And the thing is that if I go into display setting and reposition the 1, 2 and 3 screens, hit apply, the scrolling stops.
[08:50] <WildPenguin> hello, how many here use lubuntu as the primary os?
[08:50] <sveinse> What can be the cause for this? How can I approach the problem?
[08:51] <ducasse> WildPenguin: please don't take polls, just ask your particular questions.
[08:52] <sveinse> Has Xorg and gnome shell been upped from 16.04 to 16.10?
[08:53] <WildPenguin> ducasse, ok. What is the realistic system requirements for Lubuntu 16.10?
[08:53] <ducasse> WildPenguin: should say on the website.
[08:53] <WildPenguin> I know there are minimum and recommended suggested on the Ubuntu website.
[08:54] <WildPenguin> but, it might differ in actual use.
[08:54] <WildPenguin> that is why I asked the above question.
[08:55] <WildPenguin> I have Lubuntu 16.10. When I try to play videos on VLC the cpu usage rises to 100% suddenly.
[08:55] <ducasse> WildPenguin: try #lubuntu, to find out what people there are running it on
[08:55] <WildPenguin> and video playback gets stuck.
[08:56] <WildPenguin> this is about an offline file. You can imaging how it is playing videos on Youtube.
[08:56] <WildPenguin> ducasse,  I have posted that question on #lubuntu also.
[08:57] <ducasse> WildPenguin: http://lubuntu.net/ - there are requirements listed on the front page
[09:04] <penetration> LOL
[09:05] <u11> join #diaspora
[09:06] <icedwater> u11: OK, thanks for advertising :)
[09:06] <u11> ice: oups :)
[09:10] <fishcooker> anyone with apt module error "FATAL -> Failed to fork"  http://vpaste.net/izPXA don't say with apt-get install -f ... it emits the same error messages
[09:10]  * penetration is going to start trolling soon
[09:11] <nights> hmm
[09:11] <nights> my python program outputs Fatal server error: (EE) Server is already active for display 0
[09:11] <nights> what can i do to get rid of this?
[09:11] <icedwater> nights: looks like you're trying to startx in a python script?
[09:11] <nights> hm
[09:11] <nights> i run something called http://pythonhosted.org/wkhtmltopdf/
[09:11] <nights> its a html -> pdf converter
[09:11] <icedwater> That looked like a XOrg error to me, though.
[09:12] <nights> run it over ssh
[09:12] <nights> so i'm not at the terminal physically
[09:12] <progers> Hello!
[09:12] <penetration> hit it with a jackhammer
[09:12] <penetration> it fixes everything
[09:12] <icedwater> !jackrabbit | penetration
[09:12] <icedwater> !jaunty | penetration
[09:13] <nights> i would ,but i broke the jackhammer smashing another computer last week :/
[09:13] <Slie> How to I get a graphical install from the command line of an already booted distro? Anyone?
[09:13] <Ben64> Slie: what distro
[09:13] <progers> Anyone know how to setup windows loader in grub2? Sorry for my english. I have 1 SSD with windows loader on it,and hdd with ubuntu 16.10 and boot loader,it's not comfortable to switch between them using bios
[09:14] <icedwater> Slie: probably want to get to graphical mode first, if it's a live Ubuntu thing, there should be a graphical install option on the Desktop
[09:14] <Slie> actually it's kali but was hoping an ubuntu technique would hit the spot
[09:14] <icedwater> Slie: did you try asking in #kali, if that is on? :P
[09:14] <Ben64> !kali | Slie
[09:14] <Slie> if it's possible there should be a command for it.
[09:14] <Ben64> you'll have to ask in the proper place
[09:15] <Slie> Wow, i was kinda asking how you do it in ubuntu really...
[09:15] <Ben64> except you're not
[09:15] <Slie> you asked what distro i was using i answered..
[09:15] <ducasse> Slie: and it's not ubuntu
[09:16] <Slie> who cares is it possible on ubuntu.. I am most certain it is.
[09:16] <Ben64> irrelevant, you're not on ubuntu
[09:17] <Slie> who cares, I don't.
[09:17] <icedwater> Slie: yeah, you just needed ideas.
[09:17] <Ben64> with all the time you're wasting here you could be asking in the right channel
[09:17] <Slie> let me go back to the source type of guys sorry for bugging you binary folk.
[09:17] <icedwater> Ben64 is right, though. Did you try #kali-linux?
[09:17] <icedwater> Heh
[09:18] <progers> Soooooooo, no one knows how to setup win loader to grub2 from other disk? :D
[09:19]  * mukluks whispers... con-truh-ver-see
[09:20] <Kartagis> ehlo
[09:21] <nights> my python program outputs Fatal server error: (EE) Server is already active for display 0
[09:21] <nights> anyone knows how to solve this?
[09:21] <Kartagis> I need to install oci8 extension for php on ubuntu 16.04. am I in the right channel?
[09:21] <icedwater> nights: I'm reading the script on the side :p
[09:21] <nights> which script?
[09:21] <nights> that wrapper?
[09:21] <icedwater> The wkhtmltopdf thing you're trying to run, yeah
[09:21] <nights> ah
[09:21] <nights> yeah
[09:21] <nights> shit...
[09:22] <nights> i'll ask a coworker when he gets back, hes been fiddeling with it more
[09:22] <nights> actually i dont think he used the wrapper
[09:22] <Kartagis> !language | nights
[09:22] <nights> just command line
[09:22] <nights> so the wrapper might be quite useless, for command line theres a verbose option
[09:23] <icedwater> The wrapper looks interesting, but I've never seen that kind of error message except in Xorg stuff
[09:23] <nights> hm yeah
[09:23] <nights> it must have some very exotic library linked
[09:23] <mcphail> Kartagis: doesn't that get installed with the php-db package?
[09:24] <Kartagis> does it? I had no idea. let me try it mcphail
[09:24] <icedwater> nights: odd, though
[09:24] <nights> yeah
[09:25] <icedwater> nights: how are you invoking the script?
[09:25] <nights> ill give this a few more minutes then its command liner
[09:25] <nights> hm
[09:25] <nights> one line of code incoming
[09:25] <nights> wkhtmltopdf = WKHtmlToPdf( url  , output_file  )
[09:25] <nights> wkhtmltopdf.render()
[09:26] <nights> sorry, two :[
[09:26] <icedwater> Right, fair enough. So it's .render() that is causing some issues.
[09:27] <ws2k3> hello guys im having an issue with ubuntu 12.04 with ipv6. after some time my routing tables are getting full and then ipv6 stops working
[09:29] <Lynx0> Hi! I'm just reinstalling Ubuntu, and want to keep the /home directories. Is it correct that I choose partitions manually, and then change the partition to mount to /home but NOT put the format checkbox? This will keep all the data, right?
[09:32] <hateball> Lynx0: Yes
[09:32] <hateball> Lynx0: and if you use the same username as previously, things should go smoothly
[09:33] <Lynx0> hateball: I will, however there are several users. I had planned to copy the data from the old passwdf and shadow files to the new ones. Just for the users with /home, not the system ones.
[09:33] <mcphail> Lynx0: that should be fine
[09:34] <Lynx0> Great, thanks. Time for the scary "install now" button then...
[09:34] <mcphail> Lynx0: even without a separate /home partition, I think the installer gives you an option to preserve an existing /home directory structure
[09:35] <wedgie> Lynx0: and having backups available just in case is always a good idea ;)
[09:35] <Lynx0> wedgie: Of course!
[09:35] <Lynx0> So I have only /boot and / checked for formatting, the confirmation box also lists that /swap will be formatted. That is normal I assume?
[09:37] <mcphail> swap isn't usually a mount point under /, but it is fine to format your swap space
[09:39] <Phanes> can someone explain to me the whole dash vs. sh thing?
[09:40] <Phanes> http://dpaste.com/1P4D96D
[09:40] <wedgie> Phanes: explain what? dash is a superset of sh
[09:40] <Phanes> right but why dash over bash or even sh
[09:41] <ikonia> !offtopic
[09:41] <mcphail> Phanes: dash is a basic shell implementation, which is speedy and enough to satisfy a script which asks for "/bin/sh". Ubuntu used to symlink bash instead, but this was slower and overkill for most scripts
[09:41] <lord_> ciao a tutti
[09:41] <Kartagis> mcphail: I installed php-db, how do I enable the oci8 extension?
[09:43] <Kartagis> !it | lord_
[09:43] <computer2000> Where does Processing install to by default on a Linux system? Ubuntu
[09:43] <computer2000> I need to install it by hand on command line and want to reproduce the autoinstaller steps
[09:45] <Lynx0> How long should "creating ext2 file system for /boot in partition..." take? It's been 10 minutes, and that partition is 100 mb on an ssd?
[09:45] <mcphail> Kartagis: ages since I have done this, but I think it was just a matter of adding "extension=oci8.so" to php.ini. I think the hardest bit was building the extension. You'd need to see oracle about that
[09:49] <LinuxNovice> hello, I was given a pdf document by someone here that contained the beginner
[09:49] <LinuxNovice> beginner's guide for Ubuntu 16.04
[09:49] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: https://help.ubuntu.com
[09:49] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: that is official documentation teaching you how to use the basic functionality of ubuntu
[09:49] <LinuxNovice> is that relevant for Lubuntu and other derivatives of Ubuntu?
[09:50] <ikonia> yes
[09:50] <LinuxNovice> ikonia, yes.
[09:50] <icedwater> nights: haven't been able to get your script to work, though. Might have messed up one of the install steps
[09:50] <LinuxNovice> ok.
[09:50] <icedwater> Oh right, one sec
[09:50] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: you should also be aware of the lubuntu channel
[09:50] <nights> icedwater well thanks a lot anyway
[09:50] <ikonia> which can provide you lubuntu specific help
[09:50] <LinuxNovice> ikonia, yes. I'm aware of it.
[09:51] <LinuxNovice> but, usually I don't get people online there.
[09:51] <Phanes> its the same distro with a different wm
[09:51] <Phanes> im not sure why they have separate channels for that
[09:52] <LinuxNovice> are they different projects with different teams? Lubuntu, Xubuntu and others?
[09:52] <Phanes> other than to have this conversation
[09:52] <icedwater> Hang on, it looks OK now. Let me see if I can reproduce the bug
[09:54] <Lynx0> So my install is still creating the file system for /boot, I think it's stuck. Can I check what's going on somehow?
[09:54] <hateball> Lynx0: open a terminal and run top
[09:54] <hateball> see what process seems to be working
[09:54] <LinuxNovice> why the cpu usage suddenly rises to 100% when I try to play  videos on VLC? on Lubuntu.
[09:55] <LinuxNovice> Lubuntu, doesn't seem to consume much RAM, though.
[09:55] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: because it takes effort to decode a video
[09:55] <Lynx0> hateball: How do I open a terminal from the installer?
[09:55] <LinuxNovice> ok. suddenly the video playback becomes sluggish.
[09:56] <LinuxNovice> even when VLC is the only app open.
[09:56] <Ben64> LinuxNovice: what video card do you have
[09:56] <Ben64> and what cpu
[09:56] <ikonia> yes, if it's at %100 cpu it will be slow
[09:56] <hateball> Lynx0: did you go straight to install, or did you live-boot and then click install?
[09:56] <hateball> Lynx0: if live-boot, just open a terminal from the dash. if pure installer I guess you could switch to tty1
[09:56] <LinuxNovice> don't know about the video card. but, my laptop is very old one.
[09:57] <Lynx0> hateball: no, straight to install
[09:57] <LinuxNovice> runs on Celeron M single core 1.6 Ghz cpu and 2 gb ram.
[09:57] <icedwater> nights: got the script to run, but the output is not there. No error as you had, though.
[09:57] <Lynx0> hateball: you mean with ctrl-alt F-key? That gives me a terminal with a cursor, but I can't type anything
[09:58] <hateball> Lynx0: That's what I meant yeah. Alright hmmm
[09:58] <nights> icedwater: very interesting, thats good info
[09:58] <LinuxNovice> I don't have much problem with that much ram. Even Xubuntu and Mate don't use the available ram, fully.
[09:58] <Ben64> LinuxNovice: i'd suggest using a better video player
[09:58] <Ben64> but there's only so much you can get out of an old cpu
[09:58] <LinuxNovice> but, it's the cpu usage, I feel that slows down the performance.
[09:59] <icedwater> To be fair, I'm running the script in an interactive python terminal.
[09:59] <Ben64> LinuxNovice: yes, that was established already
[09:59] <LinuxNovice> It's not just with videos. Other applications like Web browsers also give the same problem
[09:59] <mcphail> LinuxNovice: no operating system can magically make your cpu more efficient. Old hardware isn't sufficient for decoding HD video. Modern websites are cpu-intensive
[10:00] <icedwater> As in: x = WKHtmlToPdf(url, output_file); x.render() doesn't give any output or error messages.
[10:00] <LinuxNovice> ok. Time to throw away, this computer, I think.
[10:01] <icedwater> LinuxNovice: why's that?
[10:01] <Lynx0> hateball: I guess I'll have to just kill it by long pressing the power button, I don't see any option to reboot or anything. I guess I can't break stuff as I'm reinstalling anyway...
[10:01] <nights> icedwater, ok, soem weird local issue for me then
[10:01] <nights> atleast thats confirmed, so thats good
[10:01] <LinuxNovice> when I can't get the work done, what is the use?
[10:01] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: throw it away then
[10:02] <LinuxNovice> thinking of buying a new one this week.
[10:02] <hateball> Lynx0: Can't say, I havent installed Ubuntu desktop clean in ages. Suggest you go to live-mode first, next time. So you can at least troubleshoot a little
[10:03] <yeeve> I'm trying to extend rsyslogs confs with my own instead of overwriting the main conf, when it comes to numbered files I have 20-ufw and 50-default, is ufw read first then default is applied? So my custom stuff should be 60-custom and not 10-custom right?
[10:03] <LinuxNovice> ikonia, can't we do some tweaking in Lubuntu so that it doesn't use more cpu?
[10:03] <Lynx0> hateball: will do
[10:03] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: lubuntu is not using your cpu
[10:03] <ikonia> the apps you are launching is
[10:03] <LinuxNovice> 2 gb ram is more than enough for my needs.
[10:04] <ikonia> the ram is not the problem as you've said, the cpu is maxing out is
[10:04] <LinuxNovice> ok. can't we do anything about that?
[10:04] <Ben64> get more cpu
[10:04] <LinuxNovice> ok
[10:04] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: some times you have to accept the limitation of your tin
[10:05] <LinuxNovice> ikonia, yeah. I understand.
[10:06] <Phanes> you could check out cpu optimization during library recompilation but this is an advanced topic and probably not supported by ubuntu
[10:06] <LinuxNovice> ok
[10:07] <LinuxNovice> Celeron M single core 1.6 Ghz cpu is slow for even lubuntu, I think.
[10:07] <Ben64> it was slow when it was new
[10:07] <Phanes> you'll have to use a stipped down desktop environment
[10:07] <Phanes> maybe fluxbox would be a good start for that system
[10:08] <LinuxNovice> ok. what is that?
[10:08] <ikonia> changing the desktop will not fix this
[10:08] <icedwater> You'll need to use a lighter distro I suppose.
[10:08] <Phanes> well, it'll help.  there's alot of bells and whistles running.  haven't seen the top/htop but display is usually the hog.
[10:08] <ikonia> changing the distro will not fix this
[10:09] <LinuxNovice> will buy a new laptop and install Ubuntu on it.
[10:09] <Ben64> the cpu is ancient, it was bottom of the line when it was new, and that was likely before ubuntu even existed
[10:09] <LinuxNovice> but, what about this laptop?
[10:09] <Ben64> you could use it as a paperweight
[10:09] <ikonia> what about it ?
[10:09] <icedwater> Celeron 1.6GHz will be lightning compared to the other guy's setup, there was someone who wanted to set up an Ubuntu on a 486
[10:09] <LinuxNovice> Ben64, you are right.
[10:09] <Phanes> meh.  it's still keeping up with some pi's.  honestly, a stripped down DE and some planning would work fine on that system
[10:10] <Ben64> Phanes: no
[10:10] <icedwater> Phanes: for some value of "works fine" :p
[10:11] <LinuxNovice> can I install fluxbox on lubuntu?
[10:11] <Phanes> yes
[10:11] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: no
[10:11] <LinuxNovice> just to try and see.
[10:11] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: this will add no value to you
[10:11] <LinuxNovice> ok
[10:11] <Phanes> it's entirely possible and sorry for the misinformation LinuxNovice
[10:11] <Phanes> it's in the repos
[10:11] <ikonia> no-one is giving missinformation
[10:12] <LinuxNovice> if that's going to create some problem, I won't try that.
[10:12] <Ben64> it's not going to fix anything
[10:12] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: look at the problems you have in the past
[10:12] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: look at the hardware you have
[10:12] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: look at the usecases for what you want to do
[10:12] <LinuxNovice> the laptop has to be usable even after I try that.
[10:12] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: you are limited in options
[10:12] <LinuxNovice> ikonia, yes.
[10:12] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: fluxbox can run fine, it's a usable desktop, however that won't fix your video decoding needing %X cpu
[10:13] <Phanes> ikonia, http://dpaste.com/3JNB0B8 | please check information prior to giving it to users (see paste).  Also that machine is well within the min specs for fluxbox.  That is misinformation.
[10:13] <ikonia> (I'm using your video decoding just as an example)
[10:13] <ikonia> Phanes: I've not given any misinformation
[10:13]  * Phanes defers to the log scroll
[10:14] <Phanes> ah. i see the correction.  all is good.
[10:14] <LinuxNovice> but, anyway, I will stick to Ubuntu or its derivatives. It seems to have a larger community and I can expect proper support here.
[10:14] <icedwater> LinuxNovice: are you planning to buy a new (old) laptop?
[10:15] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: you have had excellent support
[10:15] <LinuxNovice> icedwater, yes.
[10:15] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: the problem has been you have not followed the support
[10:15] <Phanes> actually i fixed his issue with the pdf after you left
[10:15] <LinuxNovice> ikonia, what does that mean?
[10:15] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: exactly what I've said
[10:15] <LinuxNovice> yes, that issue got resolved.
[10:16] <LinuxNovice> I followed the instructions.
[10:16] <LinuxNovice> may be in between there was no communication because of network issues.
[10:16] <Phanes> the issue was the instructions he was being given re: versions of ubuntu et al, his pdf's were encrypted and this is a known issue in most desktop viewers
[10:16] <Phanes> they had blank passwords set
[10:17] <Phanes> so we used qpdf to decrypt them
[10:17] <LinuxNovice> ok. I didn't know that.
[10:17] <Phanes> its ok
[10:17] <LinuxNovice> Phanes, that was successful.
[10:17] <icedwater> Is there a way to make nautilus not draw PDF previews in the icons?
[10:18] <LinuxNovice> guys, shall I try fluxbox?
[10:18] <Phanes> i'd recommend it
[10:18] <LinuxNovice> would it be safe?
[10:18] <Phanes> yes
[10:18] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: no
[10:19] <ikonia> but it is totally your decision
[10:19] <Phanes> i dont know why he's doing that
[10:19] <LinuxNovice> I hope that saves this laptop, at least.
[10:19] <Phanes> it's fine
[10:19] <Ben64> it won't
[10:19] <ikonia> LinuxNovice: the problem is not your desktop
[10:19] <LinuxNovice> anyway, it's going to be Ubuntu on my new laptop.
[10:19] <Ben64> nothing is going to make the cpu functional
[10:19] <ikonia> you're not having problems running the desktop
[10:19] <LinuxNovice> ok
[10:20] <ikonia> it's totally your choice though
[10:20] <LinuxNovice> ok.
[10:20] <icedwater> As far as I can tell, ikonia and Ben64 are pointing out that the distro itself is fine, the daily workload are not
[10:20] <icedwater> s/workload/tasks/
[10:20] <Ben64> a raspberry pi is better in every way
[10:20] <Phanes> yes if you use a lighter DE you will have lower resource usage when resources is the bottleneck
[10:21] <k1l> LinuxNovice: you can install whatever you want. its your machine. but if you ask for support and people explain that in detail with the facts it could be worth to read that and think about it.
[10:21] <LinuxNovice> k11, ok
[10:21] <LinuxNovice> better to go for a new laptop, I feel.
[10:22] <Phanes> i think thats always a better choice
[10:22] <JP___> I run ubuntu 14.04 easily on a pc that can barely run windows 7
[10:22] <k1l> LinuxNovice: yes. that machine was slow when it was new. if that was a high class leptop back then that would be a different matter today.
[10:22] <JP___> I even run qt and program in python at the same time
[10:23] <Phanes> JP___, that's kind of what im getting at.  If you're on a low carb diet, the doctor isn't going to tell you that you need to eat cake.
[10:23] <JP___> LinuxNovice: what do you wanna use your laptop for, and what are the specs?
[10:23] <LinuxNovice> just an off topic question, which brand of laptops you guys prefer?
[10:24] <Ben64> LinuxNovice: #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:24] <Phanes> brand?
[10:24] <JP___> :p
[10:24] <JP___> I like asus
[10:24] <Lynx0> So I just reinstalled Ubuntu  keeping my home directory. It worked, however I just logged in and seem to be missing a window manager, there is background and icons but no menu or window frames. How do I start that?
[10:24] <JP___> My asus laptop was the shit, and then it died :(
[10:24] <icedwater> LinuxNovice: no preference, I've been able to adapt to any make I've bought. But yes, #ubuntu-offtopic would be better for this :)
[10:25] <LinuxNovice> icedwater, ok.
[10:25] <JP___> LinuxNovice: there are several linux-distributions that run on practically nothing
[10:25] <JP___> So depending on what you want, and your specs, i could advise you on that
[10:25] <k1l> Lynx0: does the guest account work properly?
[10:26] <LinuxNovice> ok. guys, I've decided. It's going to be a new laptop with Ubuntu on it.
[10:26] <Lynx0> k1l: I'm now logged in without menus, how do I log out again?
[10:26] <nights> wow
[10:26] <nights> what a decision!
[10:27] <k1l> Lynx0: super+l should log you out.
[10:27] <JP___> Can you start a terminal using keyboard shortcuts?
[10:28] <wiselydoesit> PuppyLinux is a great option for low spec machines.
[10:28] <ikonia> it's really not
[10:28] <ikonia> as it's based on the same distros
[10:28] <ikonia> eg: ubuntu
[10:28] <ikonia> (lubuntu)
[10:28] <k1l> Lynx0: if that doesnt work open a terminal with ctrl+alt+t and run "gnome-session-quit
[10:28] <k1l> "  which will close all programs
[10:28] <ikonia> it actually uses the same packages from the upstream distro provider
[10:28] <wiselydoesit> personally i'd use Arch but its not exactly new user build.
[10:28] <ikonia> it won't make a differnce
[10:29] <JP___> ikonia: i thought puppylinux was build from scratch
[10:29] <ikonia> JP___: that seemed to stop a long time ago and now it's just bastardised re-spins
[10:29] <JP___> Pretty f-ed distro if you ask me, but fast as hell
[10:29] <JP___> I have it installed on an old pc here
[10:29] <ikonia> everyman and his dog using a tool called "woof" to create broken bastardised builds
[10:29] <wiselydoesit> there are various different builds of Puppy, some are based on Ubuntu, others on Slackware and others.
[10:29] <JP___> with 512 mb ram, runs smooth
[10:29] <ikonia> JP___: so does lubuntu.....
[10:29] <ikonia> which is what "tahr" release is
[10:29] <ikonia> (in essence)
[10:29] <Phanes> i dont why we are saying lower resource usage doesn't better accommodate a machine with lower resource capability
[10:30] <JP___> Oh yeah, i have slackware version
[10:30] <ikonia> JP___: same concept, just slackware,
[10:30] <JP___> Well it kind of sucks, but works fine i guess
[10:30] <ikonia> JP___: pretty much "the" description of it
[10:30] <Phanes> this is not a cooking show
[10:31] <wiselydoesit> its not really a build to run on full metal as a install in my view, more a "boot from USB in emergency" kind of thing.
[10:31] <LinuxNovice> I did try several distros, but, in the end came back to Ubuntu, because of the community support and general beginner friendliness of the distro.
[10:31] <JP___> I started with angstrom
[10:31] <wiselydoesit> i'm currently triple booting Yakkety, Debian Jessie and Android x86
[10:31] <Lynx0> k1l: No, neither worked. Just rebooting now.
[10:31] <egsome> Why would Touchpad get not recognized on kernel 4.4.0-47 ?
[10:31] <JP___> Triple booting? what is that?
[10:32] <wiselydoesit> i have 3 operating systems installed.
[10:32] <ikonia> it's outof scope for this channel
[10:32] <ikonia> out of too
[10:35] <Lynx0> So the guest account works, but when I log into my account I don't get any menu or window decorations. Is there a setting somewhere that turns Unity of or something like that?
[10:36] <wiselydoesit> is unity8 discussion in scope in here? i actually really like it its what i've been testing out on Yakkety, once you get used to using scopes etc.
[10:37] <JP___> Oh i thought you meant like all 3 operating systems working in parallel at the same time
[10:37] <wiselydoesit> Lynx0: check which session your using when logging in.
[10:37] <k1l> Lynx0: could be an issue with your old settings. i cant recall what folder/config was that in detail, but try to rename the .config folder and then relogin. then you can copy back to the new .config folder the programs you want to keep the settings of.
[10:37] <wiselydoesit> JP___: thats actually possible using virtualization
[10:38] <JP___> Yeah, but i meant without virtualization :p
[10:38] <JP___> Everyone van do VM
[10:38] <wiselydoesit> well i suppose you could build a debian chroot inside ubuntu ;-)
[10:38] <k1l> JP___: look at lxc/lxd for that
[10:41] <wiselydoesit> i do have an experiment in Android x86 at the moment of running Ubuntu in chroot with VNC server and then connecting to the vnc on localhost. thus giving me a ubuntu install inside Android with desktop.
[10:44] <mozammel> Hi guys.
[10:58] <mozammel> does anyone can help me to reduce boot time in ubuntu 16.10 , here is my bootimage http://picpaste.com/bootimage-0Xypk5c7.png
[11:02] <mukluks> mozammel those 10 seconds in firmware would probably be the easiest to speed up
[11:02] <mukluks> turn off disk detection etc
[11:04] <mozammel> sorry, I not get it, can you please tell me  firmware which one you mean.
[11:04] <Ben64> 29 seconds isn't fast enough?
[11:04] <mozammel> I see most time takes to mount 4 drive
[11:05] <mozammel> sorry. muklus, can you tell me how to disable firmware ?
[11:06] <mozammel> and what this firmware is? if I disable will it mess my system ?
[11:07] <mozammel> @Ben64 15 second is actualy ubuntu standard bootup time.. haha..
[11:07] <mmmmmm>  /server gay-serbia.com
[11:07] <Ben64> mozammel: not really
[11:13]  * mozammel enjoying ubuntu16.10
[11:29] <Knight2016> Hi
[11:30] <Knight2016> I get a black screen when booting the server image, the kubuntu desktop image boots to the desktop but doesn't offer raid when configuring disks
[11:31] <Knight2016> ubuntu 16.04.1 server install image, tried nomodeset
[11:46] <Knight2016> vga=ask didn't work
[11:50] <sukesh> Hi am unable to sudo apt-get update in 16.04. I am getting  "Err:1 http://archive.canonical.com xenial InRelease   Cannot initiate the connection to archive.canonical.com" error. But internet connection is working. What could be the problem?
[11:55] <Ben64> sukesh: according to that error, the connection is not working
[11:57] <sukesh> Ben64, I can open that url in browser.
[11:59] <Herbalist> seems the connection is up .. but cannot be "initiated"
[11:59] <Necy> does anyone know how much space kubuntu would take up if i installed it on ubuntu gnome. (inclusing all the media players, ect)
[12:00] <Ben64> Necy: apt-get -s install kubuntu-desktop
[12:01] <sukesh> Herbalist, what that means? .. How can i fix it ?
[12:02] <Herbalist> your guess is as good as mine
[12:03] <Herbalist> perhaps some repositories are not enabled
[12:03] <Herbalist> ?
[12:06] <Necy> if i install kubuntu-desktop, i could remove it quite easily along with all the things downloaded with it?
[12:06] <Necy> - what command would i use to do that a simple remove would do it?
[12:08] <hateball> Necy: there's no simple way, as kubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[12:08] <Necy> ok, thanks!
[12:08] <hateball> you'd need to consult /var/apt/history and remove whatever packages *actually* get installed
[12:08] <sukesh> I dont know, I have bunch of  same kind of error. Is it a proxy error? Earlier version of ubuntu I didnt any face problem.. It started recently after upgrading I think..
[12:09] <hateball> Necy: Besides, why would you want to remove Plasma, it is the most glorious thing ;)
[12:09] <Necy> hateball: yee, im on gnome
[12:09] <Necy> want plasma though
[12:09] <Necy> however, might not like it
[12:09] <Necy> for whatever reason
[12:10] <Herbalist> what is plasma do ?
 desktop enviroment which looks beautifully
[12:10] <hateball> Necy: you could always liveboot to try it
[12:10] <Herbalist> ic.. ty Necy
[12:10] <hateball> Necy: are you planning on using 16.04 or 16.10?
 im on 16.04
[12:11] <hateball> Necy: both pretty much require the use of kubuntu backports ppa, as the plasma included is far from production ready
[12:11] <hateball> Necy: anyhow, we dont bite over in #kubuntu either
[12:11] <Necy> oo.. thanks
[12:12] <Herbalist> i only have the launcher dock on the left, and cairo dock below
[12:16] <nino> ciao
[12:16] <nino> !list
[12:27] <Guest6428> ciao
[12:27] <Guest6428> !list
[12:30] <netcrime> Hello. I'm freelance developer and I want to build a desktop notifier of new jobs that would be scraped from popular freelance boards. I will use Python for job scraping and now I'm trying to decide how/which desktop notifier to use for Ubuntu OS. I know that there is notify-send but it is very limited and not suits my needs. I need to be able to put link in notification bubble and have more control over design. I failed to find any
[12:30] <netcrime> proper solution so far. Maybe you have any suggestions? Build custom with Tkinter/Qt ? Use javascript? Any other options?
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Hi alll
[12:36] <mozammel> Hello
[12:36] <Begiinernew>  
[12:36] <Begiinernew> hi Freaks
[12:37] <Begiinernew> hi
[12:37] <mozammel> begiinernew: lol
[12:38] <saba> Does anyone experience Compiz to be slow aftera few weeks? Slow when switching between workspaces. I've experienced this since Ubuntu ~11. Until now I used to kill compiz every other week. However with 16.04 it messes with Xmodmap.
[12:40] <quazimodo> beepboop
[12:46] <mozammel> saba I have just started using ubuntu 16.10 , I was a openSUSE Leap user.
[12:53] <ducasse> ccccccevchfcidglcirbvvcbjbffcluktttvfddvjndu
[12:54] <k_sze> I'm getting 403 forbidden for snapd-login-service when I try to `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[13:01] <CarlFK> what is the country code for china?  - or what repo should I be using for Shanghai ?
[13:02] <l0llip0p> hi! how do I update my system? :)
[13:02] <l0llip0p> in command line?
[13:02] <CarlFK> l0llip0p: sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade
[13:03] <CarlFK> first finds out what is new, 2nd installs them all
[13:03] <l0llip0p> CarlFK, thank you :)
[13:05] <zoltan_> test
[13:19] <terence> hey
[13:24] <cmh_> how and when does the ubuntu team decide to merge packages from debian? php7 for example is 7.0.14-2 in debian unstable but in xenial 7.0.13-2 is the proposed version.
[13:24] <tarelerulz> Any of you have the package manager crash on you? I have an don't have any idea how to install such a basic part of the system other then reinstall the os
[13:24] <terence> do it
[13:25] <Ridah> tarelerulz: not really, any log output?
[13:25] <FinalX> if it's really broken you can manually download the .deb and reinstall it with dpkg
[13:25] <tarelerulz> ok
[13:25] <FinalX> but last time that happened to me, the filesystem was corrupted due to disk issues
[13:25] <sten___> s
[13:25] <ducasse> cmh_: packages are normally not merged from debian into a released ubuntu version, only the current development release. the exception would be if a package gets an sru (stable release update)
[13:25] <FinalX> and then even that is not gonna help you
[13:25] <sten___> asa
[13:26] <tarelerulz> I'm trying to get better at Linux and computer in general so fixing a big problem like this helps.
[13:26] <FinalX> cmh_: xenial is based on jessie, debian unstable is stretch, major release further
[13:27] <tarelerulz> How many times you reinstall Ubuntu?
[13:27] <FinalX> also, why do you care so much about a .01 difference with PHP? rather have well maintained packages then an extremely minor upgrade :p
[13:27] <cmh_> FinalX: true, i'm more curious about if/when php 7.1 is merged into debian unstable
[13:28] <cmh_> how that will transfer over to ubuntu
[13:28] <kk4ewt> tarelerulz, you never learn untill you have to reinstall a distro at least 3 times
[13:28] <tarelerulz> Done
[13:28] <shorty06> Can someone help me, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a flash drive but I can't get grub to install on it.
[13:28] <kk4ewt> aobut that time you start learning
[13:28] <FinalX> cmh_: if PHP 7.1 makes it into Debian stretch, it'll probably be in the first Ubuntu release that's based off of stretch. but 7.0 was not in Debian jessie either. so even if stretch has 7.0, 7.1 might come in the next Ubuntu release that's based off of it.
[13:29] <tarelerulz> I have installed Gentoo from  Ubuntu , now working on arch and WIndows next and Android
[13:29] <shorty06> I'm pretty sure I select the flash drive as the bootloader location during installation but grub installed to my HDD instead
[13:29] <FinalX> cmh_: For our hosting we currently use Sury's PHP 7.1 packages.
[13:31] <BluesKaj> shorty06, as long as you keep the same hdd then ubuntu on your usb should boot , if that's what you want, ubiquity/installer assumes you want to install the OS to the hddd
[13:32] <shorty06> BluesKaj I selected the USB drive though
[13:32] <shorty06> Is it because I only have an ext4 partition on there?
[13:32] <tarelerulz> What partitoin  system do you use for  3 os. Like windows ,  Linux and Android ?
[13:32] <shorty06> Do I need to manually create an efi partition?
[13:32] <Herbalist> #ubuntu-offtopic :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[13:32] <shorty06> I know I can always boot using this computer but I'd like to make the installation as portable as possible
[13:32] <BluesKaj> shorty06, do you internd to run ubuntu on th usb?
[13:33] <shorty06> shorty06, Yeah
[13:33] <shorty06> BluesKaj, Yeah
[13:33] <shorty06> Don't know why I just mentioned myself lol
[13:33] <BluesKaj> then you don't need grub on it
[13:34] <shorty06> BluesKaj Wouldn't having grub on it make it easier to use with multiple computers?
[13:34] <ducasse> FinalX: cmh_ xenial is not based on jessie, jessie is almost two years old
[13:34] <BluesKaj> nope
[13:34] <Lynx0> After upgrading to 16.04 I noticed the samba config seems to have changed, where I used to have "security = user" now is something like "server role = standalone server". Did this change?
[13:34] <mozammel> does anyone know how I can reduce boot up time on my ubuntu 16.10, bootimage is here http://picpaste.com/bootimage-0Xypk5c7.png
[13:35] <FinalX> ducasse: yes, it is, because stretch was not released. xenial pulls from jessie.
[13:35] <FinalX> as that's the current stable.
[13:35] <cmh_> FinalX: ducasse i guess i'm confused on how ubuntu chooses a debian release to pull from
[13:35] <shorty06> BluesKaj Without grub the drive is just the operating system data though right? If I wanted to boot it from a new computer I'd need to manually install grub on that computer first?
[13:35] <BluesKaj> other linux pcs will have grub installed you just need to make the uefi/bios boot from the USB first in the boot sequence
[13:35] <tarelerulz> moxammel you  could run a ramdisk Ubuntu
[13:36] <shorty06> BluesKaj But grub doesn't automatically detect new drives
[13:36] <BluesKaj> !persistence
[13:36] <shorty06> BluesKaj the USB doesn't show up as a bootable option because it's not bootable without grub installed and configured
[13:36] <mozammel> tarelerulz: what is ramdisk ?
[13:37] <tarelerulz> Its the os running in ram only
[13:37] <BluesKaj> Shrooms, ^ same goes for usb ...read persistenc eabove
[13:37] <ducasse> FinalX: when a release is under development, it pulls (mostly) from debian testing. so xenial is mostly based on stretch.
[13:37] <FinalX> cmh_: When Debian releases a new stable, any future Ubuntu release will pull from that. As far as I know. Then updated/Ubuntu-maintained software is put in over it.
[13:37] <shorty06> BluesKaj This isn't a liveCD, this is a proper install to a USB drive
[13:37] <dbugger> Hello everyone
[13:37] <FinalX> ducasse: hum, ok..
[13:37] <dbugger> Does anyone know if there is any package to control a foam rocket launcher in Ubuntu 16.04? :)
[13:37] <BluesKaj> shorty06, same goes for usb
[13:37] <cmh_> ducasse: is testing the same thing as stretch
[13:37] <shorty06> BluesKaj Alright, I'll take a look
[13:38] <FinalX> ducasse/cmh_: my apologies, I could swear /etc/debian_version said jessie before; but it tells me "stretch/sid" as well.
[13:38] <ducasse> FinalX: ubuntu does *not* pull from debian stable. see this, for example - http://askubuntu.com/questions/151698/which-version-of-debian-are-ubuntu-lts-releases-based-on
[13:38] <ducasse> cmh_: at the moment, testing is stretch, but stretch will soon be released.
[13:39] <tarelerulz> What is the most bleed egdge Ubuntu like the devs use?
[13:39] <ducasse> !ubuntu+1 | tarelerulz
[13:40] <Speiros> Hmm, that was awkward.
[13:40] <mozammel> tarelerulz: I dont understand the relavence about of ramdisk with my boot up time. can you please explain ?
[13:40] <cmh_> "Cutting Edge: Starting with the 14.04 LTS development cycle, automatic full package import is performed from Debian unstable1
[13:40] <tarelerulz> Well,  the boot might be faster, ram is 6 times faster then a ssd.
[13:40] <cmh_> interesting
[13:41] <tarelerulz>  down side you lost everything if the power goes out
[13:41] <tarelerulz> How often does that happen.
[13:42] <mozammel> guys what is "history-daemon" process ? its eating up my CPU now.
[13:42] <ducasse> cmh_: aiui, it depends a little on the package(s) in question. certain things are pulled from testing to get more stable software, others from unstable to get the latest.
[13:45] <RaleighVanguard> Hello! I am getting white transparent borders around all my windows. I am using i3. This started occurring after a reboot where I installed the fish shell. Not sure to where to go from here.
[13:46] <kankusht> good morning
[13:46] <ducasse> RaleighVanguard: are you using a compositor?
[13:47] <kankusht> does anyone know how to install a software by compiling it?
[13:47] <RaleighVanguard> ducasee - Compton
[13:47] <ducasse> RaleighVanguard: most graphics issues i have with i3 are because of compton
[13:47] <RaleighVanguard> ducasse --- this is a minimal install too
[13:47] <RaleighVanguard> ducasse -- okay, what should I switch to and how?
[13:47] <Ridah> kankusht: depends in what language it is compiled, you can check about "compilers" for the language
[13:47] <JediMaster> Where's a good place to start troubleshooting a black screen immediately after selecting Ubuntu from grub? Brand new install on a machine with inbuilt intel graphics card. Log details: http://pastebin.com/173ziLTx
[13:48] <Ridah> kankusht: common is: gcc
[13:48] <cmh_> ducasse: gotcha. so back to php7.1 as an example - what's the process look like for getting that into xenial after debian releases it?
[13:48] <ducasse> RaleighVanguard: you can try xcompmgr, it lacks some of the features of compton, but many find it to be more stable
[13:49] <RaleighVanguard> ducase - will try and report back!
[13:49] <ducasse> cmh_: it does not exist. a stable release is just that -  stable. it does not receive new packages, only bug fixes and security patches
[13:49] <kankusht> Ridah: I remember that I read an article about using the make command for compiling but I can't find it :(
[13:49] <JediMaster> Grub works fine. And I can get X to work if I go into Ubuntu recovery mode, then select resume. I get the login prompt but can't change past 1024x768 resolution (on a 4k monitor via displayport)
[13:49] <ducasse> RaleighVanguard: there is also #i3, fyi, others there might have other suggestions
[13:50] <RaleighVanguard> ducasee: did not know that, thank you
[13:50] <Speiros> Are these logs used to update the manuals on wiki?
[13:53] <modp> booted from lubuntu 16.10 cd...lubuntu installer says it cant find the cd-rom drive...thats right...the same drive the media itself booted from. wtf?
[13:54] <RaleighVanguard> Ducasse- I need to kill compton, how do I do that?
[13:54] <ducasse> RaleighVanguard: 'pkill -9 compton'
[13:54] <JediMaster> Also if I select 4.4.0-31 it appears to boot correctly, however the screen is a small box in the centre of the screen (likely 1024x768 being displayed centred within a 4k screen), but 4.4.0-57 doesn't work (screen goes to standby as soon as it starts booting, even before X loads)
[13:54] <ducasse> !tab | RaleighVanguard
[13:55] <RaleighVanguard> ducasse: Thank you! Killing compton removed the white transparent borders!
[13:56] <ducasse> RaleighVanguard: great! as i said, you might have better luck with xcompmgr
[13:57] <RaleighVanguard> ducasse: Yep, will do!
[13:58] <Speiros> ...
[14:01] <cmh_> ducasse: dang, thanks for the help
[14:01] <cmh_> explanation(s) rather
[14:01] <cmh_> which were helpful :P
[14:02] <ducasse> cmh_: no problem :) it's exactly the same thing as debian stable, it does not receive new software either.
[14:03] <ducasse> cmh_: there is one exception in ubuntu, and that is !sru
[14:05] <Lynx0> I have a second drive that I mount to /data via fstab. However if I login Ubuntu also mounts that same drive again under /media/myuser/data_drive. How can I stop that? If I set to noauto in fstab it won't be mounted at all right?
[14:09] <blib> I made a primary partition on a new drive that I added - /etc/sdb - and now my machine refuses to boot - any ideas how to fix this?
[14:14] <tarelerulz> blib hardware or software
[14:17] <electro575> bonjour a tous
[14:18] <electro575> est-ce qu'il existe un logiciel capable de créer un depot en local du depot distant de Kubuntu 14.04 LTS ?
[14:18] <arcanescu> I have a process  A which spawn B C and D. When I terminate A I want to terminate B C an D as well. I tried kill using group id but it also kills A. Is there a better way so that A stays alive and the child processes die?
[14:21] <ducasse> !fr | electro575
[14:21] <electro575> pas de souci
[14:28] <cesdo> !ru
[14:34] <ramiz> hello there :)
[14:35] <blib> can anyone help me fix a booting problem?
[14:36] <xangua>  Running Lubuntu 16.04 on a 10 year old laptop, can't manage to resume from suspend (screen stays off, manage to update latest BIOS available for it. Here is my last suspend log paste.ubuntu.com/23746403
[14:36] <kaladin> hello
[14:37] <kaladin> So I installed Ubuntu 16.04.1 which allowed me to connect to internet (16.04 did not)
[14:37] <kaladin> But when I do disk check I get 1 error
[14:37] <kaladin> and when I try to boot
[14:37] <kaladin> it just freezes on splash screen
[14:38] <Ben64> there really isn't a difference between 16.04 and 16.04.1
[14:38] <kaladin> When I do a sudo apt-get update etc. on my liveUSB does it work for my install or just for the liveUSB?
[14:38] <Ben64> you may have bad hardware
[14:38] <Ben64> only on usb
[14:38] <kaladin> is there any way I can repair my install via liveUSB since that is the only way I can boot
[14:39] <Ben64> you can run a scan using fsck
[14:39] <Ben64> but it might be better to reinstall
[14:39] <kaladin> This is a fresh install
[14:39] <kaladin> did it 3 times and can't boot at all
[14:40] <ramiz> I tried to do "sudo apt install" on Ubuntu 16.04.1 in LiveUSB mode, and it didn't work.
[14:40] <lvjesus0> 有没有好的视频播放软件
[14:40] <lvjesus0> 有人木
[14:40] <DJones> !cn | lvjesus0
[14:41] <xangua> ramiz: run sudo apt update and try again
[14:41] <Ben64> kaladin: what video card
[14:41] <kaladin> QCA6174
[14:41] <kaladin> nvm that was network
[14:41] <kaladin> one sec let me check
[14:43] <kaladin> Vdeo card is Sky Lake Integrated GRaphics
[14:44] <blib> how do I designate a particular drive as boot device?
[14:45] <userRoadkill> Is thjs channel for updates on repairs?
[14:45] <kaladin> I did boot-repair and got report paste2.org/V0A4OmX2
[14:46] <ramiz> xangua: already tried
[14:47] <userRoadkill> It looks like the little italics andparanthsis are a secret code or something Racous;
[14:50] <genkgo> i have a question on mounts with noatime. what would "stat -c %x" display if i would mount with noatime?
[14:50] <userRoadkill> Catharsis; nice channel: sweet.
[14:52] <userRoadkill> (3245780
[14:52] <userRoadkill> (@#$%&*)
[14:53] <userRoadkill> Nautilus  Captin Nemo
[14:54] <userRoadkill> Chrysasys
[14:54] <userRoadkill> Chrysalys
[14:54] <userRoadkill> so.......
[14:57] <Najawar> Hi
[14:58] <kaladin> When I do a full install
[14:58] <kaladin> it makes 3 partitions
[14:58] <kaladin> is the first and smallest one the boot
[14:58] <kaladin> the sda1?
[14:59] <jgcampbell300> offtopic-anyone know of a way to setup a raspberry pi 3 vm enviroment ?
[15:00] <kaladin> I just am so confused with this
[15:00] <jgcampbell300> kaladin, what are you confused about
[15:01] <kaladin> I guess the 3 partitions made
[15:01] <kaladin> neither is flagged as boot
[15:01] <kaladin> so I wasn't sure if the small one UEFI is supposed to be flagged
[15:01] <kaladin> instead of the sda3 with all the space
[15:01] <jgcampbell300> what are the three partitions ?
[15:02] <kaladin> sda1 sda2 sda 3
[15:02] <jgcampbell300> should be something like /  ... /boot ... /and something else
[15:02] <kaladin> Yeah mine don't have any naming
[15:03] <jgcampbell300> ahh ... you can nano or vi /etc/fstab and see more details
[15:03] <jgcampbell300> or cat
[15:03] <jgcampbell300> that will show you how there mounted
[15:03] <blib> can anyone help me get a ubuntu box to boot? After I added a hard drive, no booting. I just booted it in ubuntu cdrom, and can see the drives in read only
[15:04] <jgcampbell300> kaladin, should be /boot holding grub ... mounted to /boot/ then one mounted to / <---root and the other mounted to where ever it says ... problaby /home/ or something like that
[15:04] <blami> kaladin: as long as you're on uefi machine there's no need to have any partition flagged as boot. That's mostly legacy thing
[15:04] <kaladin> I am stuck in a liveUSB since I can't boot
[15:05] <kaladin> ah so when I try to update grub does it matter where I send it?
[15:05] <blib> how do I make my sdc1 bootable?
[15:05] <jgcampbell300> https://www.linux.com/learn/how-rescue-non-booting-grub-2-linux
[15:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Hi I want to factory re set a computer, start over with Windows, put Linux distros on and so on.  However uh it turns out I have video files that are over 4GB in size, since had been recording longish videos on a Ipaid Air that had copied over to the computer before.   I can't just put these files onto a external hard disk since it's in FAT something,  and so the files are too big.    My 8GB USB's are FAT32 as
[15:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> well  trying to copy a file didn't complete properly as a result.  I need tochange the file system to something that will work with bigger files such as NTFS,  but how and using Linux?  no  working Windows on there anyroe or Linux distros.  its just the last thing to get off there now, before factory re setting etc
[15:06] <blami> kaladin: in uefi realm the only important thing for most of firmware implementations is that the boot partition is of efi type ef00, is fat32 and has proper directory structure where firmware can find bootloader
[15:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> uh that was long
[15:06] <jgcampbell300> that page will tell you guys a bit about how to work with grub to get you back up and running
[15:06] <kaladin> So I get into grub np all good
[15:06] <kaladin> I select ubuntu
[15:07] <kaladin> and turns off
[15:07] <kaladin> screen off
[15:07] <blib> jgcampbell300: My machine just hangs with a blk screen at boot
[15:07] <blib> it was booting 10 minutes ago, till I added a new hard drive with parted
[15:07] <kaladin> I think me and blib are same
[15:07] <blib> I booted in livecd
[15:07] <blami> kaladin: what do you mean by "send"? grub should be installed on EFI partition in /grub and there should be efi executable in /efi/ubuntu doing update-grub just changes configs
[15:08] <kaladin> So right now I will power off and restart it all
[15:08] <kaladin> I log in and get an error message
[15:08] <blib> blami: I'm booted into a livecd - when I boot, I can see grub, but then after that it hangs when I boot
[15:08] <kaladin> Default Boot Device Missing or Boot Failed
[15:08] <blib> is there a way to tell grub to boot from /dev/sdc1 or /dev/sdc2?
[15:08] <kaladin> It takes me to boot option menu
[15:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> how do I change the file system of a USB Stick, using a UBuntu Live ?
[15:08] <araknyd> araknyd
[15:09] <kaladin> which only has option of Windows Boot Manager
[15:09] <jgcampbell300> blib, yes ... https://www.linux.com/learn/how-rescue-non-booting-grub-2-linux tells you exactly how ... iwould print it
[15:10] <jgcampbell300> kaladin, windows boot manager last i saw would not boot linux ... use grub2 to boot everything ... it will handel windows
[15:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or how do I cut a big video file into smaller parts ?
[15:10] <kaladin> I can't get rid of it when I select Windows Boot Manager it sends me to Grub
[15:11] <xangua> Running Lubuntu 16.04 on a 10 year old laptop, can't manage to resume from suspend (screen stays off, manage to update latest BIOS available for it. Here is my last suspend log paste.ubuntu.com/23746403
[15:11] <blami> kaladin: did you mangle efi partition by hand?
[15:11] <kaladin> blami: I mangled everything
[15:11] <jgcampbell300> kaladin, is this a new build ?
[15:11] <kaladin> yes
[15:11] <blami> kaladin: it seems that boot entry for WBM points to grub binary (like someone copied shimx64.efi to /efi/microsoft/bootx64.efi)
[15:12] <kaladin> I changed in BIOS to add Grubx64.efi to trusted
[15:12] <DevAntoine> hi
[15:12] <jgcampbell300> kaladin, the easy way is to reinstall and let it do the partitioning
[15:12] <DevAntoine> What should I use to establish a remote connection to a Windows Server?
[15:12] <kaladin> I tried that but the BIOS stuff is all wonky
[15:12] <jgcampbell300> DevAntoine, Remmina
[15:12] <kaladin> It went to grub, asked me to enter encrupt password
[15:12] <kaladin> then it said checking filesystem on 1 disk and froze at 100%
[15:13] <blib> how can I see grub is booting from which disk?
[15:13] <jgcampbell300> kaladin, not sure ... sounds like you have some kind of bios issue ... but not sure ... sorry
[15:13] <kaladin> its ok I am bad with this
[15:14] <kaladin> I can get grub going and through encryption but each time it freezes on filesystem checks
[15:14] <timyp> DevAntoine how are you trying to conenct to windows server? windows shares, RDP, VNC?
[15:15] <DevAntoine> timyp: RDP
[15:15] <jgcampbell300> kaladin, If i where in your possistion I would... go take a break for a few ... come back and start from square 1 ... bios make sure everything is setup right then start working with partitions to see there right then grub etc ... break usualy helps me
[15:16] <timyp> none of the RDP clients work great in linux but as jgcambell300 mentioned Remmina will do the trick
[15:16] <blami> kaladin: encryption password is initramfs thing usually, not grubs
[15:16] <blami> kaladin: also ubuntu does not boot grubx64 but shimx64
[15:16] <blami> kaladin: if you know what to do and you're sure that your installation is intact, you can boot into live, inspect efi partition and use efibootmgr tool to add proper bootloader
[15:16] <blami> kaladin: what about rescue mode?
[15:16] <kaladin> blami: I tried rescue but I think I had issues since I encrypted my drive?
[15:17] <kaladin> It said unrecognized file system
[15:17] <kaladin> blami: I should have shimx selected not grub?
[15:17] <blami> kaladin: shimx loads grub
[15:17] <jgcampbell300> DevAntoine, http://www.remmina.org/wp/ ... easiest way i have found ... but you gota install rdp plugin if i remember right
[15:18] <kaladin> i have a few shims
[15:18] <blami> kaladin: i am not sure but if WBM entry loads grub, you did something very wrong to your system ...
[15:18] <kaladin> 1 sec
[15:18] <kaladin> lol
[15:19] <blami> kaladin: if you run efibootmgr there should be a boot order, for dual boot that should include windows loader pointing to EFI\Microsoft
[15:19] <blami> kaladin: and ubuntu loader pointing to EFI
[15:19] <blami> kaladin: err EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi
[15:19] <DevAntoine> jgcampbell300: oh, ok, thanks
[15:19] <jgcampbell300> DevAntoine, np
[15:21] <turista> Hi again every1; I still have the issue about the sound
[15:21] <kaladin> I don't have windows since I butchered it right off the bat lol
[15:21] <kaladin> Let me start from scratch
[15:21] <jgcampbell300> turista, hi
[15:22] <kaladin> First things first I am going into BIOS
[15:22] <kaladin> Restoring to defaults everything
[15:22] <turista> hello
[15:22] <kaladin> Deleting all Secure Boot Settings
[15:22] <turista> I've several issues with the video and audio with this computer and I starting to think, it is unsupported
[15:23] <kaladin> Now if I go into my Security to make a UEFI Trusted I am given 4 options
 <ubuntu> <Boot> <Microsoft>
[15:23] <kaladin> EFI contains Ubuntu Boot and Microsof
[15:23] <jgcampbell300> turista, I just had a big fight with mine ... what are you useing
[15:23] <kaladin> Ubuntu contains Shimx
[15:24] <kaladin> Boot Contains bootx64.efi bootx64.efi.grb and <grub>
[15:24] <kaladin> Boot Contains bootx64.efi bootx64.efi.grb and <grub>
[15:24] <turista> ubuntu 16, it says totally updated but
[15:24] <turista> I can not find drivers, either private ones to them
[15:25] <turista> Acis W9009S
[15:25] <kaladin> If I go into EFI>Ubuntu there is <fw> fwupx64.efi, grubx64.efi, shimx64.efi or MokManager.efi
[15:25] <turista> Acus I mean
[15:25] <jgcampbell300> turista, what video and audio cards are you using
[15:25] <turista> I found window video/sound drivers but I can't find these to this distro
[15:26] <turista> Can u tell me the command line to see it in the terminal?¿ I forgot it
[15:26] <turista> aplay -l ?
[15:26] <kaladin> Should I have Secure boot enabled or disabled?
[15:26] <turista> tarjeta 0: Intel [HDA Intel], dispositivo 0: ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662 rev1 Analog]
[15:27] <turista> I would like to play warzone battle 2100 but I can't even play it, it may be cuz the driver is not installed
[15:27] <jgcampbell300> turista, have you tried    additional drivers
[15:27] <turista> Intel® G33 x86/MMX/SSE2 for video; what do you mean with addional drivers?¿
[15:28] <kaladin> I made shimx64.efi trusted
[15:28] <jgcampbell300> open up your menu and do search under applications you will find additional drivers
[15:28] <sruli> i want to install kernel manually, is there a particular order i must install it? i have headers-, image-, image-exra, & signed-image
[15:28] <kaladin> So now it logged me into windows boot manager
[15:28] <kaladin> and somehow I am in ubuntu!
[15:28] <kaladin> Now I can try fixing on the inside
[15:29] <jgcampbell300> turista, it searches for better drivers
[15:30] <turista> I don't get it :-P~ is there a command line that I could use?¿
[15:31] <jgcampbell300> turista, na ... its the menu ..(like start on windows) and theres a search there type in drivers and hit additional drivers button when it pops up
[15:31] <ikonia> sruli: you should really only target kernels in the ubuntu repos
[15:31] <turista> if you mean where it says "use private drivers" or something (I have this in other language than english) I did select one to the microcode but there's not shown to everything else
[15:32] <ikonia> sruli: which means the package manager will manage all the orders for you
[15:32] <kaladin> and it froze
[15:32] <sruli> ikonia: i am using from ubuntu repo, but its not in cache anymore, do i downloaded the deb files, is there a particular order those need to be installed?
[15:32] <jgcampbell300> turista, thats odd ... thats where i loaded non-free drivers for mine
[15:33] <ikonia> sruli: what's the package name ?
[15:33] <turista> there's no drivers to this machine >_< just one but it has nothing to do with video or sound
[15:33] <WildPenguin> hello, can anyone help me.
[15:34] <WildPenguin> I messed up with the desktop, on my Lubuntu.
[15:34] <turista> using processor microcode firmware for intel cpus
[15:34] <turista> that's the only one shown there
[15:34] <jgcampbell300> turista, hmm maybe its already using best driver for intel
[15:34] <WildPenguin> not able to bring up any options when I right click on the desktop.
[15:35] <jgcampbell300> turista, I am using nvidia so we problaby have two diffrent paths
[15:35] <turista> I'm unable to play any game or listen a song
[15:35] <jgcampbell300> turista, that does make me wonder ... is your card onboard your mother board
[15:35] <sruli> ikonia: i have 4, linux-image-4.4.0-51-generic-4.4.0-51.72_amd64.deb, same for linux-image-extra, linux-headers & linux-singed-image
[15:35] <turista> the sound card should be inside the screen
[15:35] <jgcampbell300> turista, if so you may have to go into bios and tell it to use more memory or something like that
[15:36] <ikonia> sruli: so if you apt-get linux-image-4.4.0-51 that should do it
[15:36] <turista> 'acus w9009s' also I was in the bios, all is enabled
[15:36] <ikonia> sruli: let the package manager resolve the dependencies
[15:36] <turista> the sound, video, and these
[15:36] <sruli> ikonia: thanks
[15:36] <WildPenguin> I created a new panel at the top and deleted that as I didn't like it.
[15:37] <WildPenguin> now all the icons on the desktop are gone.
[15:37] <WildPenguin> and not getting any options when I right click
[15:37] <jgcampbell300> turista, is sound muted
[15:38] <WildPenguin> any help?
[15:38] <turista> wildpenguin sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:38] <turista> jg the sound is never muted and everywhere I can move the scroll bar of the volume
[15:38] <WildPenguin> turista, I am using Lubuntu.
[15:39] <jgcampbell300> turista, https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/sound-nosound.html this is the one that helped me
[15:39] <WildPenguin> It is just panel settings gone wrong. But, I don't know how to fix that.
[15:39] <turista> I tried the troubleshooting yesterday even start from the scratch but none of these were working to me >_<
[15:40] <WildPenguin> How to bring back the default desktop settings?
[15:40] <jgcampbell300> turista, in the end i had to install a nother pulseaudio contorl program and switch my output from hba to hdmi 2
[15:40] <turista> I did reinstall and set the grub to get load the sound modules
[15:40] <turista> I've another issue, I connect to the internet using the free app of easytether
[15:41] <mido_> l
[15:41] <WildPenguin> let me restart and see.
[15:42] <jgcampbell300>  pressing ctrl+alt+backspace should restart X
[15:43] <turista> since I don't use the paid version, I can not open https :-P
[15:43] <turista> but gonna check this link anyway if there's something that I have not tried yet
[15:44] <kyliebrooks> Hello all, uhm so I am curious to find out which login manager I use and how to find the background it uses so I can change my desktop background to that one to have them match.
[15:46] <kyliebrooks> I want to be able to browwse to that file forr the background that my login manager uses - but how do I find the file?
[15:48] <marta> como va
[15:49] <turista> btw how do I install the opengl package using terminal?¿
[15:50] <jgcampbell300> turista, problaby apt
[15:50] <turista> cuz the sound tell me about thinking on buy another sound card x-D
[15:50] <jgcampbell300> turista, apt --help
[15:51] <turista> I wonder if u do know the name of the package
[15:51] <jgcampbell300> turista, apt-cache search opengl
[15:55] <turista> that was awesome, still did show me some games
[15:55] <yeeve> I've finally got some central logging setup using rsyslog and I've been playing with GoAccess for apache log visuals but anyone got recommendations for software to view/parse/filter logs? Ideally I just want a fast gui for doing grep/tail stuff either on single files, a group of files or a group of dirs
[15:57] <akis> hi all. does anyone maybe know why 'weather report plugin' doesn't have available Astronomical Data and shows that: "Data not available, will use sane default values for night and day" and for that reason although it is night shows sun's icon instead of moon's icon?
[16:07] <akis> and also reports : Astronomical data: Last:	2016-11-22 07:06:47	Next:	2017-01-05 18:11:34  Current failed attempts: 23. Is there any way to be fixed or maybe astronomical data are discontinued?
[16:09] <mihir> when i boot to ubuntu it starts emergency mode what to do
[16:09] <mihir> plz tell
[16:14] <lizthegrey> does a version of oem-audio-hda-daily-dkms exist for Yakkety?
[16:23] <lizthegrey> (the specific problem I'm trying to solve is that the audio on Yakkety isn't working on my new Z170 chipset motherboard -- it detects the card fine, says it's playing audio on it, but nothing actually comes out)
[16:23] <lizthegrey> and http://askubuntu.com/questions/672187/no-audio-output-devices-detected-in-new-computer-build-with-skylake-z170-mothe doesn't apply since it's for 16.04 *and* also isn't the exact problem I'm having (card not detected rather than detected but no output)
[16:25] <lizthegrey> I wanted to try the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/UpgradingAlsa/DKMS steps but there doesn't appear to be anything for Yakkety, only Xenial and below
[16:28] <BluesKaj> lizthegrey, open alsamixer in the terminal and make sure auto-mute is disabled
[16:28] <lizthegrey> BluesKaj: master and pcm both are on
[16:28] <lizthegrey> is there another place I should look? surround and s/pdif look muted which is fine, I'm just trying to get vanilla headphones working
[16:30] <BluesKaj> look on the far righjt in alsamixer, there's an automtue setting there , use the down or up arrow key to disable it
[16:30] <BluesKaj> lizthegrey,^
[16:30] <Raulwynn> As a disclaimer, I am very new to Linux. I am working on a minimalist interface for Ubuntu, I know Kubuntu has I guess XFCE hence the "X" so I don't know if this will work on ubuntu but here goes nothing. I'm wanting to run XFCE to have a Chrome OS look and feel. Is XFCE and all customization options available and compatible with Ubuntu?
[16:30] <OS-26328> n
[16:31] <lizthegrey> I also made positively sure in pavucontrol that things are being output to the correct place [in theory]
[16:31] <BluesKaj> lizthegrey, did you find the automute ?
[16:32] <lizthegrey> BluesKaj: not seeing anything titled automute, I do see "Smart Volume" but pressing m to turn it off and back on doesn't do anything
[16:33] <lizthegrey> I have: Master [92], PCM [100], Surround [off], S/PDIF [off], S/PDIF Default PCM [00], Crystallizer [00], Dialog Plus [00], Equalizer [00], HP/Speaker [off], HP/Speaker A [off], PLayEnhancement [00], SMart Volume [now off], X-Bass [00]
[16:33] <BluesKaj> it's a look on the far right , you may have to navigate past the edge of the alsamixer screen to find it , use the right arrow key to navigate to it
[16:34] <lizthegrey> I"m navigated all the way to the right
[16:34] <BluesKaj> ok
[16:34] <lizthegrey> wait a sec, I have something. I plugged into line out and it's making noise now
[16:34] <lizthegrey> microphone doesn't work though
[16:34] <lizthegrey> and I can't get it to output via headphone jack
[16:34] <lizthegrey> interesting, regardless of whether I select Headphones or Line Out in pavucontrol, it outputs on line out
[16:35] <lizthegrey> this looks like a different bug then regarding pin assignment rather than codec or muting issues
[16:35] <lizthegrey> seems possibly similar to https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101991
[16:36] <gvvg> Hi - I am running ubuntu 16.04 desktop - I have a bash script that initiates and keeps open an ssh session to a remote ubuntu server so I can do forwarding and RDP to my  machine in the office - is there any way to have this script have a status so I can see if the ssh tunnel is active or not? visually? widget? anything or a gui wrapper? thanks in advance :)
[16:37] <lizthegrey> except this is a gigabyte z170 gaming 7 motherboard rather than alienware
[16:38] <BluesKaj> lizthegrey, ok, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , there will be no output if the driver loads properly ...then rebnoot
[16:39] <guerst> hey all
[16:39] <lizthegrey> BluesKaj: snd_hda_intel is already loaded according to lsmod, have already rebooted several times and verified that is loaded on each reboot
[16:39] <guerst> !top10
[16:39] <lizthegrey> (back later, have to run an errand, but can pick up debugging in an hour)
[16:40] <guerst> does any one know how to attch files using mutt command?
[16:40] <mihir> plz anyone tell h
[16:41] <guerst> does any one know how to attach multiple files(wildcards) using  mutt command?
[16:41] <pc2014> hello
[16:41] <guerst> hi pc2014
[16:42] <mihir> i stuck at emergency mode first but after few time it get services then shown
[16:43] <smurfendrek123> Hello guys, i'm getting operation not permitted when trying to delete a btrfs subvolume with the commmand
[16:43] <mihir> then blank screen
[16:43] <mihir> with one dash
[16:43] <smurfendrek123> sudo btrfs subvolume delete /.snapshots/12/snapshot
[16:43] <mihir> whto do
[16:43] <mihir> plzzz letl anyone
[16:46] <DJones> Can anby help with a black desktop, no unity bar or top bar etc after logging in (this is after an upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10) bootup & login is fine (its not a nomodeset issue) basic intel graphics, only happens with the primary user, guest session works fine.  I just login to a black background, with the desktop icons showing, I can right click on the black desktop to get change background/open terminal etc, but unity bar and top bar don't ...
[16:46] <DJones> ... appear, no desktop background
[16:47] <DJones> Worst case, I can just recreate the user and copy /home files & folders over, just wondered if there's an easy fix to avoid that
[16:48] <DJones> I've tried dconf reset -f /org/compiz and then restarted unity with no effect
[16:48] <ioria> DJones, cat ~/.xsession-errors ?
[16:48] <nicomachus> DJones: have you tried reinstalling unity?
[16:50] <ioria> DJones,  alternatively, you can backup ~/.config and ~/.compiz and reboot
[16:50] <skinux> I'm trying to figure out laggy performance. I have Ubuntu Unity (latest LTS), 4G RAM, 4G SWAP, I'm running two Sublime Text windows, HexChat, FileZilla (idle), File Explorer, LibreOffice Writer; Chrome with NetFlix (paused), Facebook, and 8 other idle tabs. Should I be experiencing slowness?
[16:50] <DJones> ioria: the error that shows in the cat command is "upstart: click-user-hooks main process (3323) terminated with status 1"
[16:50] <mihir> hey nicomachus plz give soln to my issue
[16:50] <ioria> DJones,   lte's try an apt update && apt full-upgrade
[16:51] <mihir> nicomachus:
[16:51] <nicomachus> !patience | mihir
[16:51] <DJones> ioria: Will do, back in a bit
[16:51] <phablet> is there a way to get the sound through the HDMI cable on a bq aquaris m10?
[16:51] <nicomachus> mihir: no one can understand what you're asking for. If English is not your first language, then you may have better luck in a different channel for your native language.
[16:52] <nicomachus> phablet: that may be a question for #ubuntu-touch
[16:52] <DJones> ioria: I get: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[16:52] <DJones> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[16:52] <ioria> DJones,   using sudo ?
[16:52] <nicomachus> use sudo
[16:52] <DJones> But I've not got any other update managers running that I knopw of
[16:52] <DJones> ioria: Yes
[16:53] <mihir> ok...after installing ubuntu...first i got emergency mode after that i got blank screen with binking underscore
[16:53] <phablet> xchatgnome crash when i try to change channel
[16:53] <ioria> DJones,   pkill update-notifier
[16:53] <mihir> nicomachus:get my point ?
[16:54] <nicomachus> mihir: what is your graphics setup?
[16:54] <DJones> ioria: Same problem after pkill
[16:54] <mihir> i hv default intel hd graphics
[16:55] <nicomachus> mihir: this is a fresh install?
[16:55] <ioria> DJones,   check ps -A or reboot
[16:55] <mihir> i think grphic card also not available in pc i think thats why
[16:55] <mihir> i first try to add gitel graphics to it then i will tell u wht happened again
[16:56] <nicomachus> mihir: you didn't answer my question. Is this a fresh installation of ubuntu?
[16:56] <mihir> and this is fresh install
[16:56] <nicomachus> then try to reinstall and see if you still get the same error.
[16:56] <mihir> i overwrite windows 10 with ubuntu
[16:57] <DJones> ioria: Trying with a fresh config/compiz after backing up, rebooting to test
[16:57] <mihir> its fresh install
[16:57] <ioria> DJones,   ok
[16:59] <DJones> ioria: No change, I'll just recreate the user and copy files over
[16:59] <DJones> Probably the easiest way
[17:00] <ioria> DJones,   sure, but try in console an update/upgrade, after stopping lightdm
[17:00] <mihir> ok i checked...i hv intel hd graphics in desktop and also it a fresh install
[17:00] <mihir> nichomachus:get my point ?
[17:00] <nicomachus> mihir: yes, I already said you should try to reinstall.
[17:01] <mihir> nicomachus is there any method to try ??
[17:01] <mihir> without reinstalling ?
[17:01] <mihir> becuz it take many time
[17:01] <mihir> much*
[17:02] <akik> mihir: you don't need to install extra packages for intel hd graphics to work
[17:02] <mihir> nicomachus:tell
[17:02] <mihir> akik:wht should i do
[17:02] <mihir> now
[17:02] <akik> mihir: why did the graphics stop working after you installed ubuntu?
[17:03] <mihir> akik:its first shows emergency mode then ubuntu screen  and then blank screen with blinking underscore at right in top most
[17:04] <nicomachus> akik: it's a fresh install.
[17:05] <akik> mihir: as nicomachus said, a new install is easiet solution
[17:05] <akik> easiest
[17:06] <mihir> hey ots alredy fresh install
[17:06] <mihir> its*
[17:06] <nicomachus> which clearly didn't work.
[17:06] <mihir> wht to do
[17:06] <mihir> :-(
[17:06] <nicomachus> reinstall.
[17:07] <nicomachus> or don't take our advice and leave.
[17:07] <mihir> it takes too much time like 8 hrs
[17:07] <mihir> :-(
[17:07] <nicomachus> good luck then.
[17:07] <mihir> i uncheked updates to speedup
[17:07] <akik> mihir: you have the install media? it takes max. 30 minutes(?)
[17:08] <mihir> but i checked for propritary driver software update
[17:08] <akik> mihir: the intel hd graphics doesn't need proprietary drivers
[17:10] <fedecupe> Hi, I'm looking for help in a strange problem with touchscreen/touchpad on a dell xps 9360, I asked for help also on askubuntu but noone replied yet http://askubuntu.com/questions/868097/touchpad-and-touchscreen-stopped-working-on-dell-xps-13-9360-with-ubuntu-16-04
[17:11] <ioria> DJones, the issue seems related to the 'click' package
[17:16] <fedecupe> Good evening, I'm looking for help on a not working touchpad/touchscreen of a dell xps 9360 (here some command outputs http://askubuntu.com/questions/868097/touchpad-and-touchscreen-stopped-working-on-dell-xps-13-9360-with-ubuntu-16-04 )
[17:19] <mihir> i mean should i uncheck option at installation of third party software ???
[17:19] <mihir> nicomachus:
[17:19] <mihir> akkakik:
[17:20] <nicomachus> mihir: up to you. that shouldn't really effect the speed, but you can do it later.
[17:20] <mihir> akik:*
[17:20] <nicomachus> mihir: and please stop spamming users.
[17:20] <mihir> ok sry
[17:20] <akash_> ogga bogga bogga
[17:20] <akash_> GLORIOUS UBUNTU MASTER RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[17:21] <nicomachus> akash_: stop.
[17:21] <mihir> nicomachus :but actually i want to know wht the problem is ??
[17:21] <akash_> go away !
[17:21] <akash_> master race
[17:21] <akash_> arch sucks
[17:21] <akash_> solus disaster !
[17:21] <nicomachus> akash_: please read the /topic and guidelines.
[17:21] <akash_> UUUUUUUUUUUUBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[17:21] <akash_> ok
[17:21] <akash_> i stop
[17:22] <akash_> by the way, need some help
[17:22] <nicomachus> !ask
[17:22] <mihir> nicomachus:wht was the problem causing this
[17:22] <akash_> I am a noob, need to recover data from a ext4 hdd, my friend formatted it and turned it int fat32
[17:22] <nicomachus> mihir: we don't know. that's why we recommended that you reinstall.
[17:22] <akash_> what to do ?
[17:23] <mihir> o
[17:23] <mihir> ok
[17:23] <akash_> just give me some article link, I can not figure out what to search
[17:23] <nicomachus> !recover | akash_
[17:23] <akash_> I will let you guys know
[17:24] <akash_> what browser you guys reccomend ? except firefox. mozila based would be nice
[17:24] <nicomachus> akash_: up to you. plenty to choose from.
[17:25] <akash_> ok ! by the way, nice resource. Thank you very much. I think I will be able to recover the data. there are too many 10/10 movies and porn in that drive
[17:26] <Ubuntulu> Hallo, habe gerade von der neusten Ubuntu Version gebootet per CD und nun erscheint unten ein Zeichen und ein Strichmännchen.. was hat das zu bedeuten?
[17:26] <akik> !de
[17:27] <sruli> ikonia: i did as you suggested "apt install linux-image<version>" but it downloaded lowlatency kernel , i dont need a lowlaency, so changed command to "apt install linux-image<version>-generic"
[17:27] <ikonia> sruli: ahhh you have to include generic
[17:28] <ikonia> thats a good spot but dissapointing that the default is LL
[17:28] <sruli> yes, i thought i'll let you know for future refernce
[17:28] <fedecupe> no help? It works with kernel 4.4.0-21-generic, but using that kernel it doesn't load half the modules
[17:28] <australopithecus> Hello I am running ubuntu MATE 16.1, with a nivdia 1070 graphics card, I cannot change the brightness of my screen it is stuck at max,anyone know a fix for this as it makes the operating system unusable
[17:29] <xangua> australopithecus: function keys? Did you try settings, brightness?
[17:29] <nedstark> Ubuntulu, Berühren Sie die Leertaste, um fortzufahren
[17:30] <ledeni> fedecupe, check ==> http://pastebin.com/g7Pi1sBp
[17:30] <australopithecus> i have done this xangua
[17:30] <ubuntu-mate> try using the keyboard shortcut and see if this works
[17:30] <australopithecus> it doesntwork
[17:30] <sruli> australopithecus: isn't brightness controlled by a hardware button on the screen (or fn button on laptop)
[17:30] <australopithecus> function keys dont work
[17:30] <akik> australopithecus: you might need to change kernel options acpi_osi and/or acpi_backlight
[17:30] <australopithecus> neither does the appliate onthe bar, nor does it work in power options
[17:31] <australopithecus> how do I do that akik
[17:31] <Necy> Hi. with full disc encryption will i enter the password at boot?
[17:32] <ikonia> yes
[17:32] <sruli> Necy: after grub, unless you also encrypted grub
[17:32] <Necy> does a regular type of password be effective for a encryption pasword?
[17:32] <Necy> like those used for a user account
[17:33] <fedecupe> ledeni tried that solution, but it didn't change anything
[17:33] <fedecupe> @ledeni tried that, no changes
[17:33] <neure> how do i know from command line which ubuntu version is running?
[17:34] <sruli> neure: lsb_release -a
[17:34] <servidor> hello¿?
[17:35] <akik> australopithecus: it's a two step process. first use "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows" to get the latest version of the output windows versions. that's be the value for acpi_osi
[17:36] <ledeni> australopithecus, check
[17:36] <ledeni> australopithecus, checkcat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness
[17:36] <akik> australopithecus: that value goes into /etc/default/grub in this format: acpi_osi=\"Windows 2015\"
[17:38] <akik> australopithecus: for acpi_backlight, it's not certain which value you need but first try acpi_backlight=vendor
[17:38] <australopithecus> ok
[17:39] <australopithecus> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[17:39] <australopithecus> so place it in grub like this
[17:39] <australopithecus> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" also should I comment this line out?
[17:39] <akik> australopithecus: yes for acpi_backlight, but you probably need acpi_osi too
[17:41] <australopithecus> what do you mean akik?
[17:41] <australopithecus> also thank you for your help
[17:41] <akik> australopithecus: read up -^
[17:41] <australopithecus> ok going to try
[17:42] <australopithecus> reseting brb
[17:42] <akik> australopithecus: when you've edited /etc/default/grub, run "sudo update-grub"
[17:44] <fedecupe> i think my problem could be caused by new kernel. any idea on how to fix?
[17:46] <Raulwynn> How would I have a command line run to a specific URL in a browser but without all of the tabs and buttons on the top?
[17:46] <Raulwynn> Bad question...
[17:47] <Raulwynn> I'm wanting to run a command in terminal to load chrome and send me to a specific url but I don't want to have the chrome page showing (I.E., forward, back arrows, URL bar, tabs)
[17:48] <nacc> fedecupe: new as in the most recent update? try the old kernel and if it works, file a bugt
[17:48] <nacc> *bug
[17:48] <nacc> Raulwynn: `man google-chrome`, --app= option?
[17:48] <fedecupe> Raulwynn: try the flag --kiosk
[17:49] <Raulwynn> I will try
[17:49] <sruli> --kiosk doesnt work
[17:50] <fedecupe> nacc: as you can see in the askubuntu question I posted I tried using kernel 21, touchscreen and touchpad work but it doesn't load 80% of the modules (no  HiDPI support, no netowrk interfaces...)
[17:50] <nacc> fedecupe: I can't see, because I don't have context, let me go look
[17:51] <nacc> fedecupe: if they work in the liveusb, i'd look for what's different between the two (packages installed, modules loaded, etc)
[17:52] <fedecupe> nacc: i posted lsmod differences between kernel *21* and *57*
[17:53] <nacc> fedecupe: is 21 on the left and 57 is on the right?
[17:54] <fedecupe> nacc: exactly
[17:54] <Raulwynn> Okay. This is what I have so far... "/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome --app www.google.com --new-window"
[17:54] <nacc> fedecupe: and 21 works but 57 does not?
[17:54] <Raulwynn> However it's still showing the tabs
[17:54] <Raulwynn> and the url bar
[17:55] <fedecupe> nacc: 21 touches working but no network, weird graphics (no HiDPI) 57 touches not working but everything else is ok - Also 21 was re-installed by me
[17:55] <nacc> Raulwynn: i take it you're not running chome from their repository?
[17:55] <m_tadeu> hi...is there a photo album application to simulate phisical photo albuns?
[17:55] <Raulwynn> I am
[17:55] <Raulwynn> I can double check and reinstall?
[17:57] <nacc> Raulwynn: it's ok, just checking
[17:57] <nacc> Raulwynn: any reason you are invoking in /opt directly rather than the more typical /usr/bin?
[17:58] <Raulwynn> Mainly because I am doing all this to learn linux. I'm making a POS type system and I don't want users to "accidentally" find themselves on facebook.
[17:58] <Raulwynn> I have come from Windows install wizards lmao
[17:58] <Raulwynn> How would I build a /usr/bin command?
[17:59] <nacc> Raulwynn: um, chrome ships with one
[17:59] <nacc> Raulwynn: `which google-chrome`
[17:59] <nacc> at least, afaict
[17:59] <Raulwynn> Okay. Lets ,ake something hypothetical...
[18:00] <Raulwynn> I'm creating a custom launcher, right? When I click on an icon, I want it to direct to a square box (app inside browser)
[18:00] <Raulwynn> https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/
[18:00] <nacc> Raulwynn: note that your example command worked fine for me using `google-chome --app='http://www.google.com' --new-window`
[18:00] <akik> google-chrome and google-chrome-stable are sym links in /usr/bin
[18:01] <ledeni> fedecupe, can you give pastebin for cat /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/51-synaptics-quirks.conf
[18:01] <Raulwynn> Let me try again
[18:01] <nacc> akik: agreed, i'm not saying it's wrong to invoke /opt directly, just unusal :)
[18:01] <nacc> *unusual
[18:01] <Raulwynn> It's telling me command not found...
[18:01] <Raulwynn> Maybe I'm not using chrome repositories
[18:02] <nacc> Raulwynn: well, in any case, this isn't really a chrome support channel (and chrome is not shipped by ubuntu...)
[18:02] <nicomachus> you have to install the .deb downloaded from Google
[18:03] <Raulwynn> I am sorry. I figured using the linux command line to launch a specific part of chrome in a way that google doesn't support would be here... Where can I go to ask?
[18:03] <nacc> Raulwynn: you're not using the 'command line to launch a specific part of chrome' ... you're launching chome, clearly
[18:04] <fedecupe> ledeni: http://pastebin.com/ME4iW6iq
[18:04] <Raulwynn> I'm sorry. Not debating. On any note, how do I remove chrome repositories to add the new deb from google?
[18:05] <Raulwynn> I'm not debating. I asked a new question and I have moved on.
[18:07] <nacc> Raulwynn: i don't know what you mean? you can either d/l the .deb from google or add their repo.
[18:08] <Drakkul> hello, can anyone help me install an additional repo?
[18:08] <Raulwynn> How do I remove the bad repo?
[18:08] <nacc> Raulwynn: i do not know where your chrome came from, what does `/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome --version` say?
[18:08] <australopithecus> Hello, so I am trying to reinstall ubuntu but I have a nvidia 1070 graphics card, so the curser image is stuck at the top left corner of the screen, and the mouse is invisible
[18:08] <nacc> Drakkul: what do you mean by additional repo?
[18:09] <hans_> hello good morning everybody, i have problem with rules on udev.
[18:09] <Raulwynn> nacc: Google Chrome 55.0.2883.87
[18:09] <Drakkul> nacc: i want to install this program and i'm not sure how https://riot.im/desktop.html
[18:09] <australopithecus> this can be fixed by installing nvidia 367 driver after installing it on the live cd how do I switch drivers without resetig
[18:09] <australopithecus> so my curser works properly
[18:10] <hans_> i wan to make my machine playing a sound when i plug the usb drive, i have 2 *.sh script and 1 *.rules script. but it's not work
[18:10] <nacc> Raulwynn: ok, that's the version from the repositories and probably the same I"m running. `apt policy google-chrome-stable` ?
[18:10] <nacc> Raulwynn: use a pastebin for that output
[18:11] <australopithecus> I guess I can install like I did before which was fucking painful where I just make selecton squares on my desktop to determine my mouses location
[18:11] <ledeni> fedecupe, try 'sudo systemctl enable lightdm'
[18:11] <nicomachus> !language | australopithecus
[18:11] <australopithecus> sorry
[18:11] <nacc> hans_: you will probably need to pastebin the scripts for anyone to help
[18:11] <hans_> wait
[18:12] <nicomachus> australopithecus: do you have a working install now? or just the live cd?
[18:12] <nacc> Drakkul: add the repository to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/<some file name>.list?
[18:12] <australopithecus> I have a working install but I want to start fresh
[18:12] <fedecupe> ledeni: still no changes, should I reboot?
[18:12] <aarobc> is there a way to make a udev rule match any usb keyboard?
[18:12] <ledeni> fedecupe, yes
[18:12] <Raulwynn> nacc: http://pastebin.com/NPAmvdQY
[18:12] <Drakkul> nacc: any idea on how do i that?
[18:12] <australopithecus> because I feel like I broke something trying to resolve an issue and it is just easier to start over
[18:12] <nicomachus> australopithecus: then do a fresh install and switch to the Nvidia driver afterwards.
[18:13] <australopithecus> nicomachus I can do that
[18:13] <australopithecus> Its just
[18:13] <nacc> Raulwynn: yes, you are using the repository version, which is good, then. But you should have a /usr/bin/google-chrome, I think
[18:13] <australopithecus> my curser image is stuck in the top left corner of the screen
[18:13] <australopithecus> and my mouse is invisible
[18:13] <nicomachus> you can't alter the LiveCD after it's been created. You can alter the image and then rewrite the live disk, but that's starting over in another way.
[18:13] <nacc> Drakkul: what I said *is* how you do it?
[18:13] <australopithecus> the fix for it is installing nvidia-367 driver
[18:14] <Raulwynn> Okay I got that to pull up. Where can I go to ask google chrome specific questions?
[18:14] <hans_> http://pastebin.com/raw/LX3SDY32
[18:14] <australopithecus> It is really annoying to install with an invisible curser
[18:14] <australopithecus> I was just wondering if there was a way to load the live cd with the new driver
[18:14] <australopithecus> so that the issue is resolved
[18:14] <australopithecus> so I can have a curser I can see
[18:14] <aarobc> How would I make a udev rule that matches any USB keyboard?
[18:14] <hans_> i dont know why, but i think everything is correct. http://pastebin.com/raw/LX3SDY32 but it doesn't work
[18:15] <Raulwynn> Beautiful. I figured it out. thank you.
[18:15] <Drakkul> nacc: where can i find the .list file to add to that directory?
[18:15] <nacc> hans_: ok and where does notify.rules live (note that it's typical to prefix it with a number for ordering purposes)
[18:16] <nicomachus> australopithecus: there is but you have to create the live CD with an altered image (including that nvidia-367 driver). which isn't easy and I've never done it.
[18:16] <nacc> Drakkul: you will need to create it (hence <some file name>)
[18:16] <Drakkul> i have no idea on how to do that :/
[18:16] <nacc> Drakkul: you don't know how to create files?
[18:16] <australopithecus> ok sounds awful, I thought you could just install the driver and reset xorg or whatever the graphic user interface was
[18:17] <australopithecus> why isnt nvidia-367 driver in nvidia current
[18:17] <Drakkul> nacc: i can create an empty something.list file, but i dont think that would help me at all in this situation
[18:17] <australopithecus> do they want to punish people with new gen graphics cards
[18:18] <Drakkul> nacc: what am i supposed to have in the .list file?
[18:18] <hans_> sory nacc, im new to ubuntu, i dont know what you mean. but the file .notify is located on /etc/udev/rules.d
[18:18] <akik> !info nvidia-367 yakkety
[18:19] <nacc> Drakkul: look at other examples from the same directory or in /etc/apt/sources.list. I don't know what is specifically needed for that program, you would need to ask them.
[18:19] <akik> !info nvidia-367 xenial
[18:19] <Drakkul> ok thanks nacc
[18:19] <fedecupe> ledeni: after reboot, stillo nothing
[18:19] <nacc> hans_: just to be sure  you mean notify.rules is in /etc/udev/rules.d ?typically that would be 99-notify.rules (or better 99-usbsound.rules or something(
[18:21] <r063r1> hello
[18:21] <akik> australopithecus: i don't remember this but isn't nvidia-367 available in 16.04 and 16.10 just with an apt-get?
[18:21] <nacc> hans_: to be sure, as well, are those unplugged and plugged.sh file executable?
[18:21] <r063r1> hwo is all on
[18:22] <hans_> yes, i've already change the permission, and when i run ./pugged.sh it's work
[18:22] <australopithecus> it is
[18:22] <australopithecus> akik
[18:22] <australopithecus> but with the live cd I have to install with an invisible curser
[18:23] <australopithecus> ubuntu you havent changed a bit since the early 2000s lol
[18:23] <eins> msg hans anu
[18:23] <eins> MSG hans_ tes
[18:23] <akik> australopithecus: so does installing nvidia-367 fix your setup?
[18:23] <australopithecus> yes
[18:23] <australopithecus> and no
[18:23] <australopithecus> I still have the brightness problem
[18:24] <eins> hans_ tes
[18:24] <australopithecus> but I broke something earlier trying to fix it so I am doing a fresh install
[18:24] <Cust0sLim3n> what man page explains APT::Archives::MaxAge ?
[18:24] <australopithecus> then I am going to try the instructions you gave me
[18:25] <akik> australopithecus: it's not 100% certain whether configuring acpi_osi and acpi_backlight will work, but they've worked on my acer laptop
[18:26] <australopithecus> can you repost the settings again
[18:26] <australopithecus> sorry lost them
[18:26] <akik> australopithecus: i'll pastebin them
[18:26] <australopithecus> thanks
[18:26] <nacc> Cust0sLim3n: `man apt.conf` points to /usr/lib/apt/apt.systemd.daily
[18:27] <Cust0sLim3n> nacc, thanks a bunch - I was searching for whole string :/
[18:27] <nacc> Cust0sLim3n: me too, at first :)
[18:28] <akik> australopithecus: http://pastebin.com/raw/e4y21fda
[18:31] <australopithecus> thanks again akik
[18:33] <FManTX> lol, that's a great nick you have, australopithecus :D
[18:33] <budman> Hi everyone, Ive got an SSD drive, I used DKMS to make a drive/module but now I want to not use that driver and just use a pre-packaged .deb driver. no matter what I do to remove the DKMS, its always taking priority
[18:33] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[18:33] <yellabs-r2> hacky new year everyone !
[18:34] <fedecupe> ledeni: any other idea?
[18:34] <yellabs-r2> how would i catch the output of hiddev0,hidraw0:
[18:35] <wedgie> yellabs-r2: "catch"?
[18:35] <yellabs-r2> does hidraw0: create a file ?
[18:36] <yellabs-r2> catch as in cat , or some way in terminal ( output )
[18:38] <budman> why is modprobe stuck trying to load the newer driver that isnt on the system and not the .deb packaged driver?
[18:40] <digital_ghost> hey is there way to skip line number for commented lines in vim ?
[18:41] <yellabs-r2> okey got something working right now
[18:41] <ledeni> fedecupe, you are on 16.10
[18:42] <nacc> digital_ghost: you mean you want it to show line numbers for all lines but those starting with (syntax-sensitive) comments? Or do you want the numbers to only be incrementing for (syntax-sensitive) non-comment lines?
[18:43] <fedecupe> 16.04.1 -> maybe that *.1 caused the problem? http://askubuntu.com/questions/868097/touchpad-and-touchscreen-stopped-working-on-dell-xps-13-9360-with-ubuntu-16-04
[18:43] <digital_ghost> nacc: i want to skip line number for everything that starts with "#" when i am coding python
[18:44] <ledeni> fedecupe, try 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'
[18:46] <joebobjoe> Who user/group should own .ssh/authorized_keys? And what should the permissions be?
[18:46] <nacc> digital_ghost: that didn't really answer my question, just repeated yours. I asked two very *specific* and different questions.
[18:47] <fedecupe> ledeni: the package manager?
[18:47] <ledeni> fedecupe, try 'sudo apt-get install synaptic' in terminal
[18:49] <romrom> joebobjoe, owned by the user, group user as well, and only u=rw permission
[18:49] <wedgie> joebobjoe: 700 for .ssh, 600 for authorized_keys
[18:49] <romrom> joebobjoe, ie. it should only be readable by the user
[18:50] <fedecupe> ledeni: synaptic is just the package manager, why shoud I install it?
[18:50] <ledeni> fedecupe,yes sorry
[18:50] <digital_ghost> nacc:i want it to show line numbers for all lines but those starting with (syntax-sensitive) comments
[18:51] <joebobjoe> wedgie romrom thanks
[18:51] <romrom> joebobjoe, you're welcome :)
[18:51] <joebobjoe> romrom: can root read any file without changing permissions first?
[18:51] <wedgie> joebobjoe: yes
[18:51] <joebobjoe> ok thanks
[18:52] <ledeni> fedecupe,sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[18:52] <ledeni> fedecupe,just to check
[18:52] <fedecupe> ledeni: is already installed
[18:53] <romrom> joebobjoe, though if you really on sudo, bash completion won't see the files/directory if the current user don't have access to it
[18:53] <nacc> digital_ghost: id on't think by default there is a way, and seems odd :)
[18:53] <romrom> joebobjoe, *rely on sudo, sorry
[18:53] <joebobjoe> romrom: makes sense
[18:53] <romrom> joebobjoe, yup, but it is a pain sometimes
[18:53] <joebobjoe> I wonder how you pipe to a file with sudo
[18:53] <romrom> joebobjoe, tee is good
[18:54] <joebobjoe> romrom: ah, thanks. won't tee also write to stdout?
[18:54] <wedgie> sudo bash -c 'command > file'
[18:55] <romrom> joebobjoe, you can do sudo tee > /dev/null for example
[18:55] <ledeni> fedecupe,you can use normal usb mouse ?
[18:56] <joebobjoe> romrom: can I do cat file.txt | sudo tee rootfile.txt ?
[18:56] <fedecupe> ledeni: yes, you can see it in the first xinput output, the Logitech one
[18:56] <joebobjoe> Or does sudo not forward its stdin
[18:56] <wedgie> joebobjoe: in that case why not just ''sudo cp''
[18:57] <joebobjoe> wedgie: I need to append
[18:57] <joebobjoe> oh, sorry. forgot to mention that
[18:58] <wedgie> sudo bash -c 'cat file.txt >> rootfile.txt'
[18:58] <wedgie> or tee -a per romrom's example
[18:59] <romrom> joebobjoe, sometimes with bash -c you can end up in bash quoting hell when you have to mix up 's and ''s. I like tee for these moments.
[19:00] <ledeni> fedecupe, 'gconftool-2 --set --type boolean /desktop/gnome/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad_enabled true' in terminal
[19:00] <Iriez> Just installed 16.04 LTS and everything was working. After installing system updates, I get a blue screen right after I enter in my password. Is there a easy way to recover?
[19:00] <joebobjoe> I guess you can't pipe to sudo unless sudo has your password cached right?
[19:00] <joebobjoe> Otherwise it has no other way to prompt for password
[19:00] <romrom> joebobjoe, yup
[19:01] <joebobjoe> I wonder if sudo would try to take the password from whatever you pipe it heheh
[19:01] <joebobjoe> unless sudo communicates directly with the tty
[19:02] <fedecupe> ledeni: did it previosly, still no changes
[19:02] <gnx> hello guys
[19:02] <gnx> any tip to install Intel HD Graphics in Ubuntu 14.04.5
[19:03] <gnx> ?
[19:03] <ledeni> fedecupe, sorry mate out of solutions
[19:04] <fedecupe> ledeni: my last hope is some guru dropping by here or on askubuntu :(
[19:04] <Iriez> btw, same thing happens when I choose guest account. So unsure why the system updates crashed a fresh install....hoping there is a easy way to undo the changes, but being locked out from logging in seems like maybe I might need to reinstall?
[19:05] <ioria> Iriez, blue screen ?
[19:05] <xangua> gnx: should work out of the box
[19:06] <Iriez> ioria: Yep. Blue screen. Funny enough. Feels like windows :P
[19:06] <ioria> Iriez,  yeah, can you open a console ? ctrl+alt+f1
[19:07] <Iriez> yup
[19:07] <ioria> Iriez,  uname -r
[19:07] <Iriez> 4.4.0-21-generic
[19:07] <Iriez> i was going to update to 4.9 right after this login
[19:07] <ioria> Iriez,  sudo apt update && sudo apt-full-upgrade
[19:07] <Iriez> all i did was use the GUI to install system updates, then rebooted
[19:08] <ioria> Iriez,  sudo apt update && sudo apt-full-upgrade
[19:08] <Iriez> yup, its going
[19:08] <Iriez> thanks
[19:08] <ioria> Iriez,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[19:08] <ioria> sy
[19:08] <Iriez> hahaha! Once is fine, im not a crazy person :P
[19:08] <ioria> ok
[19:08] <Iriez> interesting. says dpkg was interuupted
[19:09] <Iriez> and that i have to manually run dpkg --configure a to correct the problem
[19:09] <Iriez> doing so
[19:09] <ioria> yep
[19:09] <Iriez> looks like its updating correctly now
[19:10] <ioria> Iriez,  when it finishes, rerun  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[19:10] <Iriez> roger
[19:18] <elichai2> hey
[19:19] <h00pz> wondering if anyone knows where the heck the mysql database is hidden in a juju:openstack deployment.  When doing a "show databases;" I only see test and scheme dbs
[19:19] <elichai2> every time i've used SSH it asked me for unlock passphrase, and now it stopped. I think i've accidentally selected the "Automatically Unlock...." option. how do I disable it?
[19:20] <SeTunTun> hello, i use ubuntu 16.04 with my garmin gps. i always had to create an udev rule for the device in order to use it as non  root user.
[19:20] <romrom> elichai2, you can use seahorse to access your keychain and remove the ssh key from it
[19:20] <SeTunTun> but something has changed in 16.04 because the rule does not work at all.
[19:21] <SeTunTun> is there any good manual or tutorial to create udev rules in 16.04¿
[19:21] <elichai2> romrom, it won't delete the ssh key itself, right?
[19:21] <romrom> elichai2, no
[19:22] <romrom> elichai2, just the passphrase that got stored in the keychain
[19:22] <h00pz> anyone in here with juju:openstack deploy knowledge
[19:22] <romrom> elichai2, you can make a backup of it if you're paranoid
[19:23] <elichai2> romrom, now I get permission denied when pushing git for some reason
[19:23] <elichai2> no such identity: /home/elichai2/.ssh/id_rsa: No such file or directory
[19:23] <elichai2> and it doesn't prompt me for pass
[19:24] <romrom> elichai2, does the file still exists ?
[19:24] <elichai2> ok, it did removed the files it self. good I backed them up
[19:24] <romrom> elichai2, it did ? that's strange as hell
[19:24] <romrom> elichai2, it should have 600 permission as well
[19:24] <ledeni> fedecupe, can you check is there /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-libinput.conf and give pastebin 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-libinput.conf'
[19:25] <elichai2> 600? why not 400?
[19:26] <romrom> elichai2, 400 works as well, I just got into the habit of using 600 :)
[19:26] <elichai2> ok :)
[19:26] <elichai2> and i'm pretty sure it was 400
[19:26] <elichai2> which makes it even weireder
[19:26] <romrom> elichai2, yup
[19:27] <elichai2> only the pub key was 644
[19:27] <Iriez> ioria: thank you, problem solved!
[19:27] <bobey6> Does UFW have a specific help channel?
[19:27] <ioria> Iriez,  good job
[19:31] <Exterminador> guys, if the output of the 'hostname -f' returns the hostname that i've set, that means that my FQDN is valid?
[19:31] <fedecupe> ledeni: I don't evene have the xorg.conf.d directory
[19:32] <australopithecus> I have a gtx 1070 using ubuntu mate 16.1 and my brightness levels wont chage, I have tried editing the grub file still no luck
[19:33] <root> ls
[19:33] <ledeni> australopithecus, check cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[19:35] <msev-> if i got with ctrl+alt+f1 in a terminal to fix an unresponsive system, how do i then get back into gui?
[19:35] <msev-> lets say i kill -9 an app which uses most cpu and restart gnome shell from the terminal...how do i then get back to it
[19:35] <slicktux> msev-: f7
[19:35] <msev-> aha
[19:35] <msev-> thanks
[19:35] <msev-> gonna try it
[19:35] <RoyK> hi all. I'm reading https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=133530&p=890858 and with this, I can choose a SLAAC address autogenerated by the hwaddr - how can I do this in dhclient.conf as on ubuntu 16.04?
[19:35] <slicktux> is not then f8
[19:35] <slicktux> ;)
[19:36] <australopithecus> says 35
[19:36] <australopithecus> kedebu
[19:36] <slicktux> lol
[19:36] <australopithecus> ledeni
[19:36] <rr_> what i should do if my youtube movies or movies from other sites are played at very high speed? (arch 4.9.1 other kernels too)
[19:36] <slicktux> rr_: slow them down
[19:36] <slicktux> rr_: could cause a sonic boom
[19:37] <msev-> yup slicktux it works
[19:37] <msev-> nice :)
[19:37] <rr_> what i should do to fix it if my youtube movies or movies from other sites are played at very high speed? (arch 4.9.1 other kernels too)
[19:37] <slicktux> msev-: f1-f8 are x terminals
[19:38] <steven> guys how can I see what binaries will be installed with a package?
[19:38] <slicktux> yer login manager that is started by systemd is in f7 whcih then starts yer DE
[19:38] <msev-> with ctrl+alt+f7 i got into the login screen
[19:38] <msev-> so cool :)
[19:38] <ledeni> australopithecus, 'echo 20 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness'
[19:38] <msev-> just dunno what f8 does
[19:38] <slicktux> steven: their should be a dependency flag
[19:39] <slicktux> or verbose flag
[19:39] <slicktux> msev-: is it just a cursor
[19:39] <slicktux> ?
[19:39] <slicktux> steven: append --help or help to apt get or whatev ya using to read the flags available
[19:39] <msev-> slicktux, dunno what you are asking me?
[19:39] <slicktux> msev-: nvm
[19:42] <ioria> steven, you can try    dpkg-query -L  packagename  | grep /bin
[19:42] <steven> ioria: thanks :) that's it
[19:42] <ioria> steven, ok
[19:42] <steven> dpkg -L packages works just as good
[19:43] <steven> oh dammit, its docker.io in
[19:43] <steven> ubuntu
[19:46] <fedecupe> ledeni: I infer you've given up
[19:46] <ledeni> fedecupe, sorry mate yes
[19:47] <australopithecus> ledeni the command didnt work
[19:49] <ledeni> australopithecus, try sudo sh -c "echo 7 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness"
[19:50] <australopithecus> ran it
[19:50] <australopithecus> and nothing happened
[19:50] <Exterminador> i quit. i'm trying to find out how to make relays of mails from google via sendmail. no lick
[19:50] <Exterminador> luck*
[19:50] <australopithecus> ledeni
[19:50] <Cust0sLim3n> jo
[19:51] <Cust0sLim3n> how safe/unsafe is it to share /var/apt/cache/archives via nfs rw and mount on other ubuntus ?
[19:51] <sfbaltaci> hi
[19:51] <australopithecus> also thanks for the help ledeni I appreciate it
[19:53] <ledeni> australopithecus, can you check cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness
[19:53] <fedecupe> ledeni: said "f*** it" and installed kernel 4.9 now everything works
[19:54] <australopithecus> ledeni says 100
[19:54] <ledeni> fedecupe, great
[19:55] <Jack> ??
[19:55] <australopithecus> ledeni which is weird because I have set my brightness to the lowest setting
[19:55] <australopithecus> using function keys
[19:55] <australopithecus> but it is infact 100
[19:55] <australopithecus> my screen is burning my eyes
[19:56] <ledeni> australopithecus, try sudo sh -c "echo 20 >> /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness"
[19:56] <Jack> sometimes reboot can fix a lot of things lol
[19:57] <fedecupe> ledeni: not great, it's not yet stablet for ubuntu...but still is a solution. Thank you very much for your help and patience
[19:57] <ledeni> fedecupe, don't worry
[19:58] <australopithecus> ledeni says, "sh: 1: cannot create /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness: permission denied
[19:58] <australopithecus> "
[19:58] <ledeni> australopithecus, try sudo "echo 20 >> /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness"
[20:00] <_adb> i can't get lightdm to execute greeter-setup-script. ubuntu 16.04.1. lightdm config file includes both 'greeter-setup-script=/usr/bin/touch /tmp/foo' and 'display-setup-script=/usr/bin/touch /tmp/bar'. when system boots, /tmp/bar is created but /tmp/foo is not. any ideas why?
[20:00] <australopithecus> says command not found ledeni
[20:01] <ledeni> australopithecus, try sudo "echo 20 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness"
[20:01] <bekks> australopithecus: echo 1 | sudo tee -a /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness"
[20:01] <bekks> ledeni: everything between " ... " is interpreted as a single command, which doesnt exist.
[20:02] <ledeni> bekks, thanks
[20:02] <australopithecus> i tried your command bekks and it just gave me a >
[20:03] <australopithecus> i think it wants an input?
[20:03] <australopithecus> idk
[20:03] <_adb> there's an extra " at the end
[20:03] <bekks> australopithecus: omit the " at the end.
[20:03] <akik> australopithecus: did you reboot after changing grub config?
[20:04] <australopithecus> permission denied bekks
[20:04] <australopithecus> yes I did akik
[20:04] <australopithecus> no luck
[20:04] <australopithecus> tried multiple options
[20:04] <bekks> So that file is read only.
[20:04] <yangm97> "96 and 0 pages still available in the bound and unbound gpu page lists"
[20:04] <yangm97> what the hell is this
[20:05] <australopithecus> bekks so I need to change its permissions?
[20:06] <bekks> australopithecus: No. Since that file is not writable at all.
[20:06] <bekks> australopithecus: It contains the value of the maximum brightness, not of the actual brightness.
[20:06] <australopithecus> oh
[20:06] <_adb> australopithecus:  sudo bash -c 'echo 20 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness' #?
[20:06] <milp_media> hi there, i installed ssmtp and nowsomething is trying to send mail through it every other minute. How would i find outwhat is doing this?
[20:07] <bekks> echo 20 | sudo tee -a /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness :)
[20:07] <_adb> or `xrandr --output <outputname> --brightness 0.5` for example, and you don't need root...
[20:08] <australopithecus>  I ran that command _adb no return
[20:08] <ubuntu-mate> hi ys just seeing if this works from inside VBox
[20:09] <australopithecus> well idc at this point I just want the brightness to be like 50-75% of what it is now
[20:09] <australopithecus> so its not scortching my retinas
[20:09] <ledeni> australopithecus, echo 3 | sudo tee -a /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[20:10] <australopithecus> says brightness is 3
[20:10] <Vysty> Hi! I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 using dual monitors that have been working fine up until a few minutes ago. My 2nd monitor suddenly turned off and is now showing "No Signal". It still appears to be working, as I can still drag Windows over to it. Can anyone help me figure out how to detect the 2nd monitor again and get it displaying properly?
[20:10] <australopithecus> but the actual brightness and what it is reporting is disconnected
[20:10] <Iriez> in this tutorial it talks about how you have to enter your password 3 times at boot for your 3 different encrypted volumes. I want to know if i can do the homekey trick with the swap? Because i currently have to enter the password for root and for swap, would be nice if after entering it for root it unlocks swap? http://thesimplecomputer.info/full-disk-encryption-with-ubuntu
[20:10] <ubuntu-mate> Just checking our MATE for a new laptop I am getting tomorrow. Any comments?
[20:10] <australopithecus> I mean I can change my brightness setting and it has no affect on actual brightness
[20:11] <australopithecus> effect*
[20:11] <_adb> australopithecus: did you try xrandr?
[20:11] <ledeni> australopithecus, can you give us ls /sys/class/backlight/
[20:12] <romrom> Iriez, you can use a keyfile stored somewhere inside your root partition
[20:12] <australopithecus> what is xrandr _adb
[20:12] <australopithecus> ledeni output gives acpi_video0
[20:12] <_adb> australopithecus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RandR check if you have it installed with `type xrandr`
[20:12] <Iriez> romrom: ok, i think i can manage this one.
[20:13] <ledeni> australopithecus, ls /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/
[20:14] <pleasebesimple> hey anoyne home
[20:14] <australopithecus> _adb typing xrandr gives output of pastebin.com/9TD1PD0e
[20:14] <Iriez> romrom: when adding to crypttab, the UUID would be the UUID of my swap partition correct?
[20:15] <Iriez> home	UUID=swapuuidhere	/root/swapkey	luks
[20:15] <_adb> australopithecus: xrandr --output DP-0 --brightness 0.7
[20:15] <romrom> Iriez, yes
[20:15] <Iriez> thx
[20:15] <pleasebesimple> im trying to connect my ubuntu 16.04 machine to my windows 10 machine via cat5e crossover and i cannot figure out how to get internet on the ubuntu machine through the windows machine
[20:15] <australopithecus> ledeni output is pastebin.com/TX8k9q8N
[20:16] <romrom> Iriez, though (but it conflicts with the tutorial you're using), I would really advocate using an LVM volume that you encrypt with LUKS and that contains the partitions itself
[20:16] <romrom> Iriez, it's easier to setup
[20:16] <pleasebesimple> anyone have a link to a guide on such a task
[20:16] <australopithecus> you are the king _adb
[20:16] <australopithecus> awesome
[20:16] <australopithecus> the command worked!!!
[20:16] <romrom> Iriez, but it will work with keyfiles
[20:17] <australopithecus> thank you so much _adb
[20:17] <timyp> australopithecus what static address did you assin on both computerS?
[20:17] <pleasebesimple> my windows machine is already sharing the ethernet that has internet connectivity with other computers on the homegroup
[20:17] <Iriez> romrom: im already setup that way, so unless you feel that this is a insecure way to do it?
[20:17] <australopithecus> I dont understand the question timyp
[20:18] <_adb> australopithecus: ledeni's solution is good too. if you can figure out what the actual path is, then something like `sudo bash -c 'echo 50 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness'` (or similar using tee) should work
[20:18] <romrom> Iriez, it's not, just a matter of convenience
[20:18] <timyp> oops that was for pleasebesimple
[20:18] <Iriez> also, in crypttab does the /root/swapkey replace "none" ?
[20:18] <romrom> Iriez, be careful (of course) with the permissions of the keyfile
[20:18] <Iriez> already chmodded :)
[20:18] <romrom> Iriez, yep, I think that's the syntax
[20:19] <timyp> pleasebesimple so you have two computers connected directly with crossover cable?
[20:19] <timyp> and you want to access the share of the windows machine?
[20:19] <pleasebesimple> yes that is as far as i have gotten timyp
[20:19] <timyp> don't need internet connection sharing
[20:19] <pleasebesimple> i setup a static ip on the main ethernet connection on my windows machine
[20:20] <ledeni> _adb, anyway your solution worked
[20:20] <timyp> did you set the gateway address on both?
[20:20] <pleasebesimple> i do want internet on the ubuntu machine
[20:20] <pleasebesimple> i plan to use it as an encoding slave for my webstream
[20:20] <pleasebesimple> i have not set any addresses on the ubuntu machine
[20:20] <pleasebesimple> my question i guess is
[20:20] <pleasebesimple> do i need to set a static ip for the crossover connection
[20:20] <timyp> you need to do that here is an example
[20:21] <pleasebesimple> as well as the main ethernet with internet access
[20:21] <milp_media> according to my syslog cron tries to send mails via ssmtp every minute, but i disabled MAILTO in the crontab, how do i find out wwhat is sending emails?
[20:21] <bekks> pleasebesimple: Which hypervisor are you using?
[20:21] <pleasebesimple> idk what that is
[20:21] <timyp> if two machines are connected to each other via crossover how is internet working do you have two network cards in this PC?
[20:21] <bekks> pleasebesimple: So you have two physical machines?
[20:22] <pleasebesimple> i have a ethernet adapter plugged into usb 3.0
[20:22] <GroundZero1> jesus
[20:22] <Iriez> when i update initramfs i get a warning possibble missing fw for i915 ....is this going to cause problems or is that common?
[20:22] <GroundZero1> uvuntu 16.10 has a kernel almost as new as the one from arch linux
[20:22] <pleasebesimple> yes i have 2 machines
[20:22] <bekks> GroundZero1: So use Windows Internet Connection Sharing.
[20:22] <GroundZero1> and i thought archlinux would be far more up to date than ubuntu
[20:23] <GroundZero1> bekks, what
[20:23] <timyp> pleasebesimple
[20:23] <timyp> machine 1
[20:23] <timyp> IP 192.168.1.22
[20:24] <timyp> gateway 192.168.1.1
[20:24] <timyp> subnet 255.255.255.0
[20:24] <timyp> machine 1
[20:24] <pleasebesimple> kk
[20:24] <australopithecus> thanks again everyone
[20:25] <akik> australopithecus: test if that brightness setting survives a reboot
[20:25] <australopithecus> ok
[20:25] <Vysty> Hi! I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 using dual monitors that have been working fine up until a few minutes ago. My 2nd monitor suddenly turned off and is now showing "No Signal". It still appears to be working, as I can still drag Windows over to it. Can anyone help me figure out how to detect the 2nd monitor again and get it displaying properly?
[20:26] <Iriez> romrom: btw, for the "next time" that i do this, which is usually about once a year, do you have any tutorials you could recommend that encrypts the LVM? agreed that tutorial is a bit old, but it was the best/easiest i could find.
[20:26] <timyp> pleasebesimple if that is done correctly you should be able to ping 192.168.1.22 from 192.168.1.23 and vice versa
[20:26] <romrom> Iriez, nope, I don't have any links. I used to do that manually a few years ago, but now I just use the default installer options.
[20:27] <_adb> akik: australopithecus: 95% sure it won't. line would have to be added to a startup script
[20:27] <pleasebesimple> i think i need to take a class on this xD timyp
[20:27] <australopithecus> _adb I can always just run it
[20:27] <pleasebesimple> thatkyou for lame ing it down as much as you could
[20:27] <australopithecus> i dont mind
[20:27] <timyp> its networking this is the same way you would get any OS to talk to each other over crossover
[20:28] <pleasebesimple> i dont understand networking at all is the thing
[20:28] <timyp> all machines that talk to each other need to be on the same subnet and have same default gateway, even if the default gateway does not really exist
[20:28] <pleasebesimple> what has to be different?
[20:29] <pleasebesimple> the static ip of the machines correct?
[20:29] <timyp> just the  static IP address for each machine
[20:29] <pleasebesimple> ok
[20:29] <pleasebesimple> that kinda helps
[20:31] <pleasebesimple> so i have the ubuntu machine set to DHCP
[20:31] <carmen> hey
[20:32] <carmen> !list
[20:32] <pleasebesimple> i know it does not work
[20:32] <pleasebesimple> but i kinda want to know why
[20:32] <timyp> there is no DHCP service in your setup
[20:32] <pleasebesimple> kk
[20:32] <pleasebesimple> ^_^
[20:32] <pleasebesimple> so manual
[20:32] <pleasebesimple> ?
[20:32] <timyp> correct
[20:32] <pleasebesimple> there are a few options
[20:33] <timyp> send me screen shot
[20:33] <timyp> i'll fill in the blanks for you
[20:33] <pleasebesimple> kinda hard to give you a screen cap of my 2nd ppc xD
[20:33] <timyp> oh yea lol. camera phone?
[20:34] <timyp> you got one of them there fancy phones with the picture taken machine on it?
[20:34] <pleasebesimple> heh im not that inept
[20:34] <timyp> lol
[20:34] <pleasebesimple> i can leave the ipv6 tab alone?
[20:35] <timyp> not in front fron a ubuntu box but it should be IP, default gateway (192.168.1.1 will work) and subnet mask
[20:35] <timyp> than do the same on the other machine but setup another IP address on next computer keep the default gateway, subnetmask the same
[20:36] <timyp> than you should be able to ping each other
[20:36] <timyp> yea no need for ipv6
[20:38] <Vysty> Running Ubuntu 16.04, have a 2nd monitor that just lost connection. I can still drag windows to it, I just can't see anything. Anyone able to help me to get it to display properly again/
[20:39] <timyp> Vysty this an nvidia chipset?
[20:40] <Vysty> Good question. how do I found out?
[20:40] <beginner> I did a "cassandra repair" command on one of my servers, and then I can not ssh it. So I used ssh-keygen and connected, but I can not connect to the outside of the server, even the "apt-get" command does not work. Please help me
[20:40] <ikonia> beginner: you need to explain the errors not just "doesn't work"
[20:40] <ikonia> the fact that you needed to repair cassandra suggests something had gone wrong with your machine
[20:41] <pleasebesimple> timyp im going to take a screen cap on my ubuntu machine and then put it on my portable hard drive then take a screen cap of my windows machine and then you can clearly see where i went wrong
[20:41] <pleasebesimple> ill have a imgur link shortly
[20:41] <timyp> vysty https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-tell-which-graphics-vga-card-installed/
[20:41] <timyp> ok pleasebesimple
[20:42] <Iriez> romrom: so the default installer can now do full disk encryption? The reason i went through all of that manual circus is because when i started doing this, the default installer did not allow for full disk encryption to a external usb
[20:42] <spearthistle> hi, user postgres has read access to a file, but the psql process reports permission denied for COPY statement?  thx.
[20:42] <timyp> vysty are you connecting via hdmi or vga?
[20:42] <Vysty> VGA
[20:42] <_adb> spearthistle: does user have permission to write to the destination?
[20:42] <Vysty> My main monitor is HDMI.
[20:42] <romrom> Iriez, yes. I have not tried FDE to an external USB with the installer, but I don't see a reason why it shouldn't work.
[20:42] <Vysty> Which is the one that's still working.
[20:43] <mustmodify> I'm seeing this message about ruby1.9.1-dev. Am I correct in thinking that package is not available on 16.04 ? I'm running 16.04.01
[20:43] <Ben64> !info ruby1.9.1-dev xenial | mustmodify
[20:43] <timyp> you have one video card with dual ports or just two separate video cards?
[20:43] <spearthistle> _adb: no, postgres user is member of group growerHome which has r+x access.
[20:43] <mustmodify> https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/a01176bd2f4daa1fe99931b801724187
[20:44] <Vysty> timyp: Here's my output: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[20:44] <mustmodify> Ben64: And yet I can't install without it. :(
[20:44] <mustmodify> Can I pretend to have it by symlinking or ... something?
[20:44] <Vysty> timyp: I'm pretty sure it's one card with separate ports.
[20:44] <timyp> vysty is the display at fault detected under System settings > Displays >detect display.
[20:45] <Ben64> mustmodify: you got something weird going on
[20:45] <Vysty> timyp: Yes.
[20:45] <nacc> mustmodify: seems like bogus dependencies for rbx
[20:45] <mustmodify> that info bot is super handy.
[20:45] <mustmodify> nacc: I agree.
[20:45] <mustmodify> And yet...
[20:45] <timyp> adjust its resolution and see what happens
[20:45] <Ben64> mustmodify: what version of ruby do you have
[20:45] <mustmodify> ruby 2.3.1p112 (2016-04-26) [x86_64-linux-gnu]
[20:46] <pleasebesimple> OMG
[20:46] <Ben64> how about dpkg -l | grep -i ruby
[20:46] <mustmodify> in this context, root doesn't have access to chruby so that's the actual system ruby.
[20:46] <pleasebesimple> FIGURED IT OUT
[20:46] <pleasebesimple> THANKS
[20:46] <Vysty> timyp: Nothing happens when I adjust the resolution.
[20:47] <mustmodify> Ben64: https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/206cb906de08965117da11cee27bf048
[20:47] <Iriez> romrom: do you know, does the default installer allow you to encrypt the bootloader?
[20:47] <romrom> Iriez, not to my knowledge
[20:47] <Iriez> would be nice to get a fully encrypted setup. :)
[20:47] <pleasebesimple> wait no....
[20:47] <Ben64> mustmodify: then idk
[20:47] <mustmodify> :(
[20:47] <romrom> Iriez, I use /boot and /boot/efi on an external usb flashdrive personally
[20:47] <mustmodify> ok well, thanks anyway.
[20:48] <pleasebesimple> timpy i have an established connection but i cannot get on the web
[20:48] <romrom> Iriez, but the setup is a bit finicky (ie. your forget to plug the key at update time, you're fucked)
[20:48] <pleasebesimple> do i maybe have to brodge the connections on my windows machine
[20:48] <Iriez> romrom: not a bad idea, but this is already a usb ext flash haha. Also, with usb being as broken security wise as it is, im more concerned with usb firmware malware
[20:48] <pleasebesimple> bridge*
[20:48] <Ben64> mustmodify: i was expecting to see some old 1.9.1 stuff in there, but that all looks fine
[20:48] <Iriez> which if you increase the amount of ext devices use, you increase your attack footprint
[20:48] <romrom> Iriez, true
[20:49] <spearthistle> _adb: even when postgres user has read, write and execute access, psql process is reporting permission denied.
[20:49] <jowatextra> PLZ any ideas i want to be able to resize and move the widgets inside any windows
[20:49] <timyp> pleasebesimple so you can connect to the share over cross over now but you have no internet using your USB network adapter?
[20:49] <pleasebesimple> yes timyp
[20:50] <Vysty> timyp: In case you didn't see my last message, nothing happened with I adjusted to resolution of the 2nd monitor.
[20:50] <timyp> what kind of USB adapter?
[20:51] <pleasebesimple> an insignia usb 3.0 to gigabit ethernet adapter
[20:51] <pleasebesimple> all the info on the box
[20:51] <jowatextra> don'T forget to tell my name when u answer to me(if u do)
[20:52] <timyp> so you have an onboard ethernet card for crossover and this adapter right?
[20:52] <pleasebesimple> i have the other pc hooked up via the adapter not my network card
[20:52] <pleasebesimple> the network card is recieving internet via router across the house
[20:53] <timyp> why not just connect both comptuers to the router than?
[20:53] <pleasebesimple> i wish to use the 2nd pc to encode video
[20:53] <pleasebesimple> and then upload it
[20:53] <pleasebesimple> my router would explode
[20:54] <timyp> so the 2nd PC can't have internet access?
[20:54] <pleasebesimple> the 2nd pc needs internet access thought my 1st pc in order to uload directly
[20:54] <pleasebesimple> im going to stream video via rmtp server to the 2nd pc then encode it
[20:54] <timyp> if you connect both computers to the same router they can still talk to each other
[20:55] <timyp> and connect to the internet
[20:55] <Ben64> and it makes much more sense and is easier to do
[20:55] <pleasebesimple> 50000 Mbps
[20:55] <timyp> 50000 Mbps what?
[20:56] <pleasebesimple> thats the bandwidth i need in order to take the stress off my main pc
[20:56] <Ben64> well you're never going to get that
[20:57] <pleasebesimple> so if i sent the unencoded video to my 2nd pc via the router
[20:57] <pleasebesimple> would i not see immense lag
[20:57] <timyp> the router have gigabit ethernet ports?
[20:58] <pleasebesimple> yeah but thats another 180 feet of cat5e cable id prefer to not run
[20:58] <Ben64> well it's the way to do it
[20:58] <pleasebesimple> im trying to do exactly this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OedbAPcHVMs
[20:59] <pleasebesimple> but he skips the part where he networks the computers together
[20:59] <pleasebesimple> that is all
[20:59] <Iriez> romrom: going through installer now, yea, it does look like it sorts everything in the default installer now. Looks like I did it the hard way :)
[20:59] <Iriez> and can install to any attached device
[21:00] <romrom> Iriez, at least you will have mastered the whole thing :)
[21:00] <timyp> did you enable internet connection sharing ?
[21:00] <Ben64> pleasebesimple: just have them hooked to the same gigabit switch, easy
[21:01] <pleasebesimple> yes timyp
[21:01] <pleasebesimple> maybe if i just swap where i plugged in the cables
[21:01] <pleasebesimple> on my windows machine
[21:03] <Ben64> pleasebesimple: or, just do it the right way
[21:04] <timyp> Ben64 he would still need to run cables for an upload on the switch, I take it this pc in question and the router are far apart
[21:04] <Ben64> move the computer
[21:04] <mustmodify> pleasebesimple: Hey, how did you make that video?
[21:04] <mustmodify> Oh, nm.
[21:05] <Ben64> how on earth does it make to use a second computer to offload stuff, but then make the first computer handle routing all the data from the second computer?
[21:08] <timyp> Ben64 I don't really get it either but what he is doing should work if internet sharing is setup correctly. pleasebesimple can you share the output of ifconfig for the pc that inet is not working on?
[21:09] <Rufus> Hello. I'm writing some scripts for some ubuntu 14.04 vms. At one step, I need to restart the vms, wait for them to beocme available again, and then ssh and to them and continue the script. I'm currently checking that a vm is available with a while loop that checks output of command: nc -z -w 5 ip.add.re.ss 22 . There are times when this command executes successfully, but ssh is still unavailable. Is there a nicer way to check vm has indeed fully
[21:09] <Rufus>  booted up?
[21:09] <timyp> pleasebesimple you are prob better off running 180 feet of cable if you want this to work well
[21:10] <Ben64> or buy a gigabit switch and put it in the room with the two computers
[21:10] <mustmodify> Ben64: I have an idea.
[21:11] <mustmodify> I compiled RBX on several servers. I'm going to just tar that directory and ship it on over to my dev machine and see if it works. Those servers are probably 14.whatever instead of 16 but...
[21:11] <mustmodify> at worst I doubt it will destroy my machine. :P
[21:13] <timyp> Rufus why not just time the vms startup and than which ever one takes the longest base your script off of that delay time?
[21:15] <timyp> so if the the vms take 2 mins to boot just add something to your script that will wait before running ssh.
[21:15] <Rufus> timyp boot time is almost never the same. sometimes there's a fsck, some vms have other services that start before ssh, etc. Timing + margin will lead to at least 10 minutes wait time, when in fact most of the times under 1 minute is enough
[21:15] <Rufus> given that I run this script in serial, for about 20 hosts per day, that'd add too much
[21:15] <timyp> whats the longest time it takes for ssh to start?
[21:16] <Rufus> it happend to take 7-8 minutes
[21:16] <Rufus> on rare occasions
[21:16] <Rufus> but 95% it's under 1 minute
[21:17] <timyp> Can you set ssh to be the first service to start?
[21:18] <Rufus> due to governance stuff, short answer is no
[21:19] <timyp> does telnet start any faster?
[21:20] <Rufus> honestly don't know
[21:20] <Rufus> but you do have a point there
[21:20] <timyp> or try an OpenSSH alternative
[21:20] <Rufus> I could check a service that has higher run level
[21:20] <Rufus> that would give enough time for ssh to start
[21:20] <timyp> yea that could work
[21:21] <Rufus> it's still a bit weird though. nc reports port 22 open, but if you immediately try to ssh, sometimes it would fail
[21:21] <Rufus> which breaks my entire cycle :|
[21:22] <Rufus> (yes I know, some error handling should've been in place heh )
[21:23] <timyp> yea I've seen this on centos systems, authentication options can cause a delay, disable the ones you don't need
[21:23] <Rufus> and actually, it just hit me. must be winbind that's holding back a successful ssh connect, even if service is listening
[21:23] <Rufus> exactly!
[21:29] <the8thbit> Is there a way to import an openshot project into kdenlive?
[21:32] <timyp> Rufus you can also use the -v  switch to see what takes ssh so long
[21:33] <timyp> the8thbit I don't think so two different video editors, be like trying to take a windows movie maker project and import it into iphoto.
[21:47] <Austin__1> what encrypt/decrypt packages are included with ubuntu? I want the ability to encrypt/decrypt a string on any linux live usb stick
[21:48] <Ben64> gpg2?
[21:48] <Pici> gpg should already be installed
[21:48] <timyp> you can still score an older copy of truecrypt 7.1a
[21:48] <Austin__1> ideally whatever i choose is native to ubuntu, and almost always will be
[21:49] <akik> Austin__1: openssl
[21:49] <timyp> or https://veracrypt.codeplex.com/ is truecrypts success but I'd put more faith in old truecrypt than a new modified fork of it
[21:49] <timyp> pppst I think veracrypt is maintained by the NSA
[21:49] <Pici> timyp: isn't that more for encrypting drives?
[21:49] <romrom> Austin__1, for a simple file, I would use gpg with symmetric encryption
[21:50] <timyp> when you say encrypt string what do you mean Austin_1
[21:50] <Austin__1> its a 40-50char string, i just want to be able to encrypt/decrypt
[21:51] <Austin__1> but as its my bitcoin privkey, i want to memorise the process of encrypting/decrpting, so it needs to be bundled with ubuntu so i can just have a linux live usb stick ready to go whenever
[21:51] <timyp> oh as in a string within a file nevermind nothing I mentioned above will help
[21:52] <Austin__1> i'll have a look at gpg and openssl
[21:52] <Austin__1> thanks all
[21:53] <romrom> Austin__1, gpg uses aes-128 by default for symmetic encryption, which is a tad too weak. you may want to change the cipher
[21:54] <Austin__1> im reading the man now. can i go upto aes-256 easily? not seeing the option anywhere
[21:54] <AegNuddel> ok, we have a computer with Ubuntu that won't connect to the Internet.  It TRIES, but it never works
[21:55] <romrom> Austin__1, --cipher-algo
[21:55] <vlt> Hello. I registered a netflix account but when I try to watch a movie I get shown a list of system requirements. Any idea what I need to use netflix?
[21:56] <AegNuddel> We were looking to see if there was away to copy wine to a disk so we could install it over there so we could get a wireless adapter
[21:56] <wedgie> vlt: no experience with it myself but my understanding is that there are plugins for firefox and chrome
[21:56] <romrom> Austin__1, --cipher-algo AES256 or --ciper-algo BLOWFISH should get you sorted
[21:57] <Austin__1> gotcha, google pipped you to it
[21:57] <AegNuddel> The drivers seem to be for Windows
[21:57] <Austin__1> romrom: thanks :)
[21:57] <romrom> Austin__1, you're welcome !
[21:58] <AegNuddel> barring that, which adapters have Linux drivers available for download?
[21:59] <Ben64> AegNuddel: you can't install drivers with wine
[21:59] <Ben64> that's not how anything works
[22:00] <Crell> Hi folks. I've installed openjdk-8-jdk from the main repository.  It seems to have installed fine. My IDE, however, keeps insisting that I have no jdk directory.  When I tell it to use the seemingly correct path (/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java), it keeps insisting it's not a valid JDK path.  From what I've googled that usually means that it's a JRE directory, not a JDK directory.  (Er?)  What am I missing here?
[22:00] <Crell> There doesn't seem to be a "jdk" directory that I can tell.
[22:00] <AegNuddel> okay I thought not, but it said someone did on review.  Maybe that's why the review was low
[22:02] <metaresolve> could someone help me figure out why my nginx path reset isn't working? i'm a new.
[22:02] <metaresolve> i'll go to the nginx forums if need be
[22:02] <metaresolve> but it basically said to replace the default path with the path you want your website files to be, but it won't switch to reading from there, it just stays in the default folder.
[22:08] <wedgie> metaresolve: probabbly better off in #nginx
[22:09] <metaresolve> ty, didn't realize that was a room.
[22:10] <wedgie> only guessing, but chances are good
[22:13] <pedro> -
[22:14] <AegNuddel> ndiswrapper silly me
[22:17] <joci> hiii everyone
[22:18] <AegNuddel> ok then must take dis wrapper file to sister's computer
[22:19] <xangua> AegNuddel: if you need to use ndiswrapper, that's desperate... What adapter?
[22:19] <k1l_> AegNuddel: modern wifi chips dont need ndiswraper.
[22:19] <AegNuddel> Wait
[22:19] <AegNuddel> what?
[22:19] <AegNuddel> What do I need then?
[22:19] <xangua> Is this bundle or a USB adapter?
[22:20] <AegNuddel> Don't have it yet
[22:20] <k1l_> ndiswrapper was used 10 years ago, when there were only windows drivers for wifi chips. today there should be proper drivers for most wifi chips.
[22:20] <AegNuddel> ok
[22:20] <k1l_> AegNuddel: run "lspci" or "lsusb"  and see what exact wifi chip it uses
[22:21] <joci> i have no idea why but my both browser become quite slow chrome and firefox , what mihght cause tha issue?
[22:21] <xangua> joci: define slow
[22:21] <xangua> Become slow*
[22:22] <AegNuddel> never mind
[22:23] <joci> *become slow when i type in an url after 3 or 4 sec loads tha page, 2 weeks before it was much fatser
[22:24] <luca_>  /msg NickServ identify Kalgon ErnestGulbis
[22:24] <joci> i assume there i much smarte solution than delet the history of the browser
[22:26] <disi> how do i get systemd-udevd to stop flooding every terminal?
[22:30] <pavlos> Calgon, "/msg ..." should be sent to freenode. Better change your pw.
[22:32] <xangua> joci: maybe it's an add-on, the only time Firefox become slow to me is when I have to open Facebook
[22:32] <disi> it wont even stop once i open nano, this is infuriating
[22:33] <timyp> I was able to assist metaresolve in the nginx chat room
[22:34] <joci> xangua i set all of them to disable
[22:34] <joci> xangua: its improved a bit
[22:35] <joci> xangua : thanks
[22:36] <TYRONES> i told them i was a holocaust denier. i like to rub the truth in their faces.
[22:36] <xtemp3r> A
[22:40] <biz> hello
[22:40] <biz> good?
[22:40] <biz> hello
[22:41] <k1l_> hi
[22:41] <Guest44870> fist time connecting on this chat :P
[22:41] <disi> Guest44870: welcome
[22:41] <Guest44870> thx
[22:44] <metaresolve> If I'm using psql on a vps running ubuntu, what's the best way for me to get my .csv tables onto the server?
[22:44] <metaresolve> right now i'm just doing sftp or ssh whatever
[22:44] <metaresolve> using filezilla
[22:55] <zuiss1> how should i decide between kubuntu, ubuntu+kde, or kde neon?
[22:56] <izzno> My ubuntu nettwork service just went down and i had to reconfigure my bridges... Did anyone else experience anything ?
[22:58] <k1l_> zuiss1: kde in the ubuntu repos is managed by the kubuntu team. so ubuntu+kde is most probably the same when you do the full kubuntu-desktop install on that ubuntu base. kde neon is not affiliated with ubuntu in any way. but the guys in #kubuntu can give you more details on the kde on ubuntu thing.
[23:00] <vlt> wedgie: Thank you!
[23:02] <arashi256> hi - i have a kernel compile question that is not ubuntu/distro specific. that okay?
[23:02] <k1l_> arashi256: better ask in #linux
[23:02] <Bendr> Hi, am i the only one seeing something weird on the download button in this page https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop ?
[23:02] <arashi256> okay ,thanks.
[23:02] <nchambers> ##linux **
[23:03] <k1l_> Bendr: no, i see that too
[23:03] <zuiss1> k1l_: ok thanks
[23:04] <nchambers> rofl gg ubuntu
[23:04] <xorte> lol
[23:12] <me1> hi
[23:15] <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
[23:15] <Bendr> is it?
[23:17] <me2> hello everyone
[23:19] <dad> its an ok day
[23:47] <creisiloca> Hello there, I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 and suffering a bug quite often. While typing, sometimes, a key won't be released, ever, so it will keep being written forever in whatever input or app you focus on. Suspending will fix the problem. I've read some bug reports commenting this issue but they are old. Is it a known issue nowadays? Any idea what could be the cause? Thanks in advance
[23:49] <dedondesta> hello
[23:50] <dedondesta> anyone else seeing with undefined error https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server on the download button?
[23:50] <dedondesta> seeing this
[23:50] <creisiloca> Yeah, me too
[23:50] <mcphail> dedondesta: yes - noticed this on the desktop button a few minutes ago
[23:50] <dedondesta> mcphail: should we say someone?
[23:51] <mcphail> dedondesta: there's a bug report link at the bottom of the page, but I've never had a response to a bug report on an Ubuntu site
[23:52] <k1l_> there is already a bug opened: https://github.com/ubuntudesign/www.ubuntu.com/issues/1236
[23:53] <dedondesta> k1l_: great