[01:19] <xubuntu39w> hello. i am a newb. trying to load xubuntu onto a brand new SSD I purchased
[01:20] <xubuntu39w> i have an adapter that plugs into my new SSD so that i can then plug it into another computers usb.  i then plan to download the xubuntu image and then transfer via usb to the new SSD, then install the SSD into new desktop and fire it up
[01:21] <xubuntu39w> i just don't know which xubuntu image to download and then transfer
[01:21] <xubuntu39w> ...
[01:23] <knome> xubuntu39w, you'll need to create installation media, you can't install from an ISO on the SSD
[01:24] <knome> (well you can but that isn't likely what you WANT to do...)
[01:24] <knome> you can use either a DVD or a USB drive as an installation media
[01:25] <knome> is the new desktop a 64-bit machine?
[01:42] <xubuntu39w> yes
[01:43] <xubuntu39w> it's a 64 bit intel machine
[01:43] <xubuntu39w> i5-4460 64-bit
[01:43] <xubuntu39w> ok, so i just burned it to the disc and had the disc verified
[01:44] <xubuntu39w> i was reading the instructions online and apparently i'll have to change my settings to boot from cd, then it will boot to windows, and then I'll have to boot again and verify in the bios that i did indeed want to boot from a new OS
[01:45] <xubuntu39w> so since i just burned the iso to disc, and i drilled into the disc and there is a file system there (not the pic of file.iso), can i just drag and drop everything from the CD to teh new SSD and then install the SSD to boot from?
[02:11] <xangua> xubuntu39w: no
[02:22] <xubuntu35w> Anyone ever had authentication being required for suspension of the system? I've managed to get it so that it suspends while plugged into AC, but while on battery it will not, and in fact seems to think the system is supposed to hibernate (which is not even enabled on my computer)
[02:34] <xangua> I did, but my suspension is broken in general (running Lubuntu in old laptop)
[02:48] <xubuntu35w> it seems no matter what ubuntu flavor i try they all have a quirk
[06:09] <xubuntu09w> Hi
[06:15] <xubuntu15w> HELP
[06:21] <bazhang> with what
[06:21] <bazhang> please ask the channel a question
[09:06] <Arran> Good morning. After a long time with Kubuntu, I would try something different, but still stay in the Buntu world. I downloades the ISO for Xubuntu 16.10 and would like to install it via a USB stick.
[09:07] <StayaSinic> aaand?
[09:07] <Arran> Up to now, I always used burned the ISO on a DVD. Have you links how to do this or any other recepie for this?
[09:09] <StayaSinic> it's simple! you can use dd
[09:09] <StayaSinic> (if you have linux)
[09:10] <StayaSinic> dd if=/path to ISO   of=/path to USB
[09:10] <StayaSinic> oh, sorry
[09:11] <StayaSinic> no, it's right
[09:15] <Spass> Arran: If you prefer GUI tools you can use Etcher (https://etcher.io - multi-platform) or gnome-disk-utility
[09:44] <Arran> Thanks, Spass(vogel?), but that has short of 70 MBs to download. With my connection speed of 40 KiB/s this is not really feasible.
[09:46] <Spass> Arran: You are on Windows or Linux?
[09:49] <Arran> I am in a totally free of Windows or Mac world. At present with Kubuntu 14.04
[09:52] <Arran> Hovever, I am sorry but I once more confounded MB's with GB's. I am downloading now and the System monitor tells me there is still 16 Minutes to go.
[09:52] <Spass> Arran: Hmm, I don't know if Kubuntu have built-in tool for burning ISOs, so probably dd from terminal/konsole will be fastest solution for you. gnome-disk-utility will probably want to download many dependencies, but you can try and see.
[09:52] <Arran> I come back in about 20 minutes.
[10:28] <Arran> Kubuntu uses to burn ISO K3B.
[10:28] <Arran> I think I found the solution: UNetboot in. It's in the repos.
[11:13] <Arran> UNetbootin is installed and the USB is getting produced.
[15:11] <theficelle> test
[16:54] <xubuntu45o> Hello
[16:55] <Arran> Hello
[16:57] <Arran> I have downloaded Xubuntu 16.10 and burned it on a DVD. When I start the DVD I wait until I can choose the Trial mode. Once done I click on the bottom left the icon «Install Xubuntu»
[16:59] <Arran> Once done, I choose the language and, as I have a slow connection under 500 KiB/s, I deselect the possibility to download the upgrades at the same time.
[17:01] <Arran> I however accept the installation for the video and music files. Now, that done, the thing starts to install the OS, but after 2 hours, nothing has hapend. Only an eternal littel disk turning. No other sign of actual downloading visible.sign
[17:02] <Arran> Ist his really all due to my slow connection?
[17:06] <xangua> You have try wit the updates while installing disabled, but be aware as your installing a normal release, you'll have to fully download a new release every 6 months Arran
[17:07] <xangua> That if you wanna keep a supported OS, normal releases only have 9 months support
[17:21] <Arran> Thanks, Xangua. I am aware. At the moment I want to try theXfce desktop, nothing else. I use KDE but they have become totally consumer unfriendly and doctor since more that two years to eliminate some basic bugs.
[17:36] <flocculant> Arran: below the main installer part with the slideshow - there is an arrow - click that and you'll see a terminal output - what does that say? http://i.imgur.com/myi2iQs.png
[18:27] <redmountain__> problem is with autostart at boot of an app, it has the top bar and at the bottom it is cut off...If I start the app normally, no top bar and full size window like I need it
[18:27] <redmountain__> sorry, Ubuntu Studio 16.04.1
[18:28] <redmountain__> this didn't happen in Ubuntu Studio 12...
[18:29] <knome> redmountain__, press alt+f2 and try running "xfwm4 --replace" (without the quotes)
[18:31] <redmountain__> should I be online ?
[18:32] <knome> irrelavant if you are or not
[18:32] <knome> irrelevant too :)
[18:32] <knome> it
[18:32] <knome> ugh,
[18:32] <knome> the command will simply try to run the window manager again, which should normalize things
[18:33] <redmountain__> I messed it up ( Mac keyboard, will try again )
[18:33] <knome> if i'm interpreting your problem correctly, that is
[18:33] <redmountain__> I try to be detailed...
[18:34] <redmountain__> I have an app autostarted at boot and the window toolbar is taking the top space from the app, shifted downwards and at the lower / bottom the app is cut off
[18:35] <redmountain__> that didn't happen with UbuntuStudio 12
[18:38] <redmountain__> whoa, received an error while trying to restart-session manager must be in idle state req shutdown
[18:39] <redmountain__> key shortcut to reboot ?
[18:41] <redmountain__> had to reboot hardware ( Mac mini 2,1, with OSX and rEFInd bootmanager > Linux )
[18:48] <redmountain__> knome, a different theme helps, > greybird-compact; is there a theme with even a smaller top toolbar ?
[18:49] <knome> not in the default selection at least, but there might be some themes online that do that
[18:49] <bel_ki> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23747742/ sambody, start tonar and this bash script from one dir = tonar is DoS?
[18:49] <knome> thought you can't get too much smaller from that point...
[18:50] <knome> bel_ki, tonar? do you mean thunar?
 yes
[18:50] <knome> bel_ki, what is that script even meant to do?
[18:50] <bel_ki> write 4 files
[18:50] <bel_ki> in s dir
[18:51] <bel_ki> 1 dir*
[18:51] <knome> and how is that script related to thunar?
[18:52] <bel_ki> i dont know tonare is DoS in my system
[18:52] <knome> DoS? denial of service?
 mybe froozen i dont know
[18:53] <knome> ok, so how do you know it is?
[18:53] <knome> doesn't it take any input?
[18:54] <knome> or isn't it just updating the file listing for the files immediately?
[18:55] <redmountain__> thanks <knome>
[18:55] <knome> redmountain__, and maybe the usual F11 -shortcut for "fullscreen" works
[18:55] <knome> if that's what you want
[18:55] <bel_ki> it is 4 files for create, what file listing?
[18:55] <knome> bel_ki, the thunar file listing?
[18:56] <knome> bel_ki, you aren't being very clear about the problem you are facing
[18:56] <knome> bel_ki, you say you run the script and then thunar might freeze -- and then what? how do you think thunar might be freezing?
[18:56] <redmountain__> If I close the app and relaunch, no more toolbar, like I would like to see it...
[18:57] <redmountain__> f11 does nothing
[18:57] <knome> redmountain__, aha, so the problem is that it doesn't go into that mode when launched by autostart?
[18:57] <redmountain__> F11
[18:57] <knome> redmountain__, which app is it?
[18:57] <redmountain__> searching the link...
 i m russian i dont andestend you
[18:58] <bel_ki> i littel know ENG
[18:58] <knome> bel_ki, i'll make ubottu paste you a link to a russian channel, maybe you can get better help there
[18:58] <knome> !ru | bel_ki
 OK
[18:58] <redmountain__> X32-Edit https://downloads.music-group.com/software/behringer/X32/X32-EDIT_LINUX_V.2.5.tar.gz
[18:59] <redmountain__> it's based on 'Juce'
[18:59] <redmountain__> now they have a newer version of the app but it's not for production...
[19:00] <knome> redmountain__, if you run the command to launch the app on command line with " --help" at the end, does it produce any information about a possible parameter you could use to get to whatever mode you wanted?
[19:00] <knome> anyway, got to go for a while - be back a bit later
[19:02] <redmountain__> me too backups...
[19:14] <redmountain__> anyone heard of X32-Edit https://downloads.music-group.com/software/behringer/X32/X32-EDIT_LINUX_V.2.5.tar.gz
[19:15] <flocculant> redmountain__: have you tried asking this in #ubuntustudio ?
[19:16] <redmountain__> no, I will, thanks
tanks, him freez on 10-20sec = file listing update in tonar
[19:23] <bel_ki> bay
[19:27] <jalt> Hi, is there a release candidate .iso for Xubuntu 16.04.02 that is scheduled for general availability in a few weeks? Will there even be an updated .iso for Xubuntu? I could only find stuff for 17.04 in the dev area...
[19:28] <knome> jalt, if you are on 16.04, you will get to the so-called .2 by updating all of your packages
[19:28] <flocculant> jalt: and also there'll be nothing 16.04.2 ish till the week it releases
[19:29] <knome> jalt, and there aren't any xubuntu-specific changes, but there will likely be a .2 ISO as it contains changes in the ubuntu core
[19:29] <jalt> nah, i want a clean install, and i have a little deployment script that i am updating, so i figured that i could try it with .2 if available
[19:29] <knome> will be, but not yet
[19:29] <jalt> only big deal with .2 is mandatory hwe, which i think will be fine, but would like to test
[19:30] <jalt> thanks guys :)
[19:30] <flocculant> jalt: there are dailies of 16.04.1 which should be current iirc
[19:31] <flocculant> that is up to date - not .2 ;)
[19:31] <jalt> while i am here, anything xubuntu specific in the pipeline for 17.04 that is big/important/have-you-fixed-the-thunar-rename-bug-yet sort of thing?
[19:32] <flocculant> the bug isn't fixed - no-one has come up with anything for that afaik
[19:33] <jalt> i tried one of the suggested patches and it seemed to work fine, but i forgot i had it and some time later i overwrote it with the default during an update...
[19:34] <knome> there are definitely patches that make it less worse, but none of those are perfect
[19:34] <jalt> any chance of those less worse patches being accepted into .2?
[19:35] <flocculant> it has some patches - no idea which ones - nor whether the one you're talking about was one of them
[19:36] <flocculant> because some of the patches worked for some but not all - I could regularly make a 'working' patch fail here
[19:37] <jalt> i should check that thread sometime, i think someone eventually made a ppa, which was better than building from src and having to dupe apt to not update it
[19:39]  * flocculant could go off on one about people testing things before release not the day after ...
[19:44] <jalt> well, the price is right, so there's only so much i can complain about.
[19:48] <flocculant> :
[19:48] <flocculant> )
[19:49] <jalt> are the daily isos official? as in, signed and supported by xubuntu's infrastrucutre?
[19:50] <flocculant> nope
[19:50] <flocculant> they're testing iso's
[19:50] <jalt> that's alright, just wondering.
[19:50] <flocculant> yup
[19:55] <redmountain__> knome u here re: launching the app in terminal ?
[19:56] <flocculant> redmountain__: were there any pointers from there?
[19:57] <redmountain__> I was talking to <knome> earlier...
[19:57] <flocculant> yes I know
[19:57] <redmountain__> I have that app on the desktop and launch it by doubleclick, or drag into terminal and enter
[19:58] <flocculant> redmountain__: have you tried starting it from the terminal?
[19:58] <redmountain__> but don't know what <knome> meant with '--help' in terminal launch
[19:59] <redmountain__> yes I launch the app in terminal by draging the app into terminal from the desktop and it just opens full size without toolbar
[20:00] <redmountain__> The toolbar of the Linux theme is only visible upon autostart at boottime
[20:00] <flocculant> redmountain__: oic - well, you would need to start it by manually typing the command the desktop launcher uses then add --help to the end
[20:01] <flocculant> unless someone specifically uses this app then we would just be giving you generic 'try' this responses
[20:01] <redmountain__> sorry, don't know that command the desktop launcher uses
[20:02] <jalt> you can inspect it with the menu-editor thingy
[20:02] <jalt> let me see if i can find the tool's name
[20:02] <flocculant> right click on it, properties - check the Launcher tab
[20:02] <jalt> well, it is Menu Editor
[20:05] <redmountain__> right click on it, properties there is no launcher tab...
[20:10] <jalt> redmountain__: click the mouse icon, click the bottom All Settings icon left of the lock icon,  then click Menu Editor. you should now see all your apps, folders, etc.. find the app you want and click it. In Command you should see all parameters it used.
[20:10] <jalt> mouse icon = main/start menu
[20:30] <flocculant> redmountain__: also, you might be able to use devilspie and/or gdevilspie to set that app up to how you want it, then autostart devilspie AND this app thing
[20:30] <flocculant> I used to use it to start apps on specific workspaces in specific positions
[20:36] <flocculant> redmountain_: it opens with a toolbar for me here - and it appears to be a binary so not sure there would be any options to do anything but start it
[22:15] <doc|work_> hey, I have a screen connected via hdmi which is going black while xrandr says it's connected, xubuntu's display GUI says it's not. Anyone know what might be going on?