=== WildSoft_ is now known as WildSoft === lordievader is now known as Guest68833 === Crystal is now known as Guest17917 === IdleOne is now known as Guest79909 === dahlia_ is now known as dahlia [01:22] hi === buzzmain is now known as buzzmandt === Richard is now known as Guest81304 === doyle_ is now known as doyle [05:30] Hi guys, my laptops been running a bit slow and I'm trying to debug why that might be. In Kinfocenter, I've noticed that under the power-consumption menu, the application that seems to be consuming the most power (significantly) is "irq/190-ELAN100". I'm pretty sure this is for my touchpad. Should it be consuming this much power or is this indicative of a driver problem probably? [05:34] i'm hardwared on this notebook [05:34] wired [05:34] older alppy but that power managerment issue changes almost every second [05:34] so wouldn't look at it as a absolute [05:34] as for slow ness have you updated yet [05:35] olso what is your hardware [05:35] sorry for bad spelling [05:35] i promise i'm not 5 [05:35] :) [05:36] haalso what version of kubuntu are you using atm [05:37] I'm currently running Kubuntu 16.04, everything has been updated and I'm running a 4.8.0-32 Kernel (had some problems with the 4.4 ones - intermittent crashes). [05:38] updated thru back ports or just normal updates system amanger alerts you to? [05:38] The Laptop itself is an Asus X540S (Quad-Core Pentium N3700's) with Intel Graphics (using i915 driver). [05:38] Normal updates - except for the Kernel... I originally was downloading these from Ubuntu's Mainline page. [05:38] ok good idea to install some back ports [05:39] new kde landed last night [05:39] haha, one minute... I'll go look up what they are ;) [05:39] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports [05:40] then type sudo apt update afterwards [05:40] then after that sudo apt full upgrade [05:40] i mean sudo apt full-upgrade [05:41] after your fully updated then we can troubleshoot a bit more [05:42] Wow... been using Kubuntu for probably almost three years and never new about backports! [05:42] lol [05:42] Thanks will give it a go now and be back in a few [05:42] btw go get a beer once you install [05:42] it might take awhile if you haven;;'t upgraded ibn awhile [05:44] haha, already on it ;) Let you know how it goes [05:44] :) [05:45] if on notebook i would plug in ac if possible onless on full charge , just incase [05:47] as for ower management and estimation , all systems window or any distro is so over the place its not even worth the time to figure out imo [05:47] log windows ten say is have 5 hours , then open a youtube video then its 4 hours [05:47] so on same with any power usage breakdown [05:47] i don't think a touch pad is draining your battery [05:48] only for like a decade accurate useage aand timer is a stop watch and use it as you want to [05:48] no matter what ditro [05:48] or os [06:22] !eol [06:22] End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [06:23] testing bot? [06:37] sintre: just needed those links [06:37] I probably should have messaged the bot, but this time of day the chan is usually quiet [06:38] well had a guy in ealier , thought he'd come back but guess not [06:38] I miss the excellent bot while trying to hand out info in non-*buntu chans [06:38] he never upgraded thru backports and complained about slowness [06:38] so after 3 years of using lts [06:38] gave him the idea [06:38] yes, I read up [06:38] good help to him [06:39] like alot of people it good sign they go away as they don't need anymore help :) [06:39] true [06:39] ohh yea fixed my mouse, user error of sorts [06:39] I don't think they consider the people answering the questions as actual people [06:39] well not when you respond to them as servants [06:39] lol [06:40] but it is a pain like that guy who had a 2almost 24 hour trouble shooting session , would of been nice to know is ram set up [06:40] it took me years of using linux before I had time to think about pitching in [06:40] as to why all installers kept crashing for future reference [06:41] i'm geting better at asking questions that you wouldn't think to ask [06:41] before after troubleshooting myself [06:41] I find IRC help awesome [06:42] people here have helped me a lot [06:42] and I try to pay it forward when I can [06:42] i try to , go dthing is alot of other people will jump in that know way more than me [06:42] darrin taught me alot [06:43] he knows his stuff, yeah [06:43] although how to ge thru to kde people , to fix tthe silly unify problem , now that no console command can do :) [06:44] though the resort to useless screen bug seems to be fixed in last update [06:44] useless screen bug? [06:45] ohh , well duel minotrs have to modes primary , which is wierd because thats the display open windows go to [06:45] and secondary [06:45] oddly the secondary screen desktop is where you actualy have task bar icon ect [06:45] ah [06:45] when in duel mode [06:45] I use only laptops, and don't have any secondary screens [06:46] although a few years ago, kscreen thought I did! [06:46] problem was when you stoped duel mode either you normal screen was primary or secondary [06:46] it turned into the display screen [06:46] and sometimes everything opened on that "other" screen [06:46] that was not good [06:46] only wora around i found was to rehook up monitor [06:46] then disable it while in duel mode [06:47] so no i can shut down pc and it returns toa useable screen [06:47] for now fingers crossed [06:47] yes , sound seems to run without manual config for now [06:48] i think for now is my best bet , as sometimes one thing can get fixed and break another [06:48] so two bugs down i'm happy [06:48] for sure === jayhunold is now known as jhunold [07:59] sintre: Thank you for your help... after using the backports repo and doing a full upgrade, things feel a lot more "responsive" (for lack of a better term). It also seems to have fixed the flickering issues I was encountering using the Brave Browser and Chromium (thinking something to do with rendering must've been updated?) [08:00] Are the packages from Backports the same as Kubuntu 16.10? === Guest68833 is now known as lordievader [08:13] jimtendo-X540S: the same packages, updated -- except in a few cases (possibly) if there are updated dependencies which are new [08:17] well seems i missed some thing with my shower beforre bed , did jim get thru thr upgrade? [08:18] "ter using the backports repo and doing a full upgrade, things feel a lot more "responsive" (for lack of a better term). It also seems to have fixed the flickering issues I was encountering using the Brave Browser and Chromium (thinking something to do with rendering must've been updated?)" [08:18] so yes [08:18] err, first word should have been after [08:19] glad to hear [08:19] at time he came in didn't mention any flickering issues [08:20] :) === Haudegen is now known as Guest36404 === pcw is now known as Guest98580 === Guest98580 is now known as PaulW2U === IdleOne is now known as Guest81108 === fimplus is now known as jackharo [10:46] kubuntu 14.04 plasma crashes (see the libreoffice apps but no desktop anymore). I reboot and can't log into the session anymore: after entering the password I see a blackscreen for one two seconds and it throws me back to the password screen [10:46] any help welcome [10:53] got it!! turns out it was the .Xautority stuff.... [11:51] Hi [11:53] anybody know how print cd with canon ip4600 at last kubuntu OS [11:53] ? [11:54] 16.10 x64 === Guest36404 is now known as Haudegen [12:09] LINUX users: DO NOT BUY CANON PRODUCT they are purely sucked for linux support. [12:09] thank you for sharing your detailed knowledge. === MayDay is now known as Guest70724 [14:05] Hi all === roland is now known as Guest19955 === Guest19955 is now known as Flockman [17:12] hi, is this normal? can't update: E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu yakkety Release' does not have a Release file. [17:25] arunce, that ppa may have been removed === madcow_ is now known as Zaicran [17:30] arunce, you can remove it from /etc/apt sources.list.d using, kdesudo dolphin /etc/apt sources.list.d , in krunner/run command [17:30] arunce, correction /etc/apt/sources.list.d [17:48] yes [17:49] BluesKaj: but it's the ppa you get from http://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-8-5-bugfix-release-in-xenial-and-yakkety-backports-now/ [17:52] BluesKaj: on a second look, that's it. I was adding just ppa:kubuntu-ppa instead of ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports [17:55] BluesKaj: thank you [17:55] arunce, I used the staging-plasma and frameworks ppas, but the backports ppa didn't fix my bugs, they look like they were just moved up to the backports from staging [17:56] ohh.. too late [17:56] and thee were no packages to upgrade [17:57] just upgrade to 5.8.5 [17:57] yes, but with bugs [17:57] reboot, brb [17:57] i'm getting Kwin crashes [17:58] do you use nvidia? [17:58] yes [17:58] let me see [17:58] brb [17:58] ok [18:04] back [18:07] just crashed [18:07] it was quick [18:12] BluesKaj: and system tray icons have a fixed size now, the date's font of the digital clock is huge. === rana__ is now known as mozammel [18:17] arunce, check your system settngs>app style>widget style and icons [18:20] BluesKaj: nothing new.. or did I miss something? (didn't crash) [18:25] arunce, i meant try to change those settings temporarily to see if they will fix themselves when you go back to your preferred [18:29] BluesKaj: the icons size was dynamic at the system tray [19:34] anyone know why camera transfer is really, really slow? [20:45] hello does kubuntu work just like ubuntu as far as install go. I see CL install instructions for ubuntu every where can i use them for kubuntu also [21:04] psychoholic: yes, Kubuntu is Ubuntu [21:05] we use different DE and applications, and underneath, different libraries [21:29] so most of the time you add a source then install from source your saying i would have to make sure i use right source for kubuntu? [21:30] ill figure it out i guess lol time to install!!! been a little while since i used kubuntu [21:57] ahoneybun: yo, you're not near the Ft. Lauderdale airport are you? === god is now known as Guest32337 [22:10] ok how to disable the alt-left click window move feature? [22:11] it interferes with applications! [22:11] oh i found it [22:12] Window Behavior -> Window Actions change from Alt to Meta [22:13] mhall119: I'm not [22:14] ahoneybun: :) [22:14] thanks mhall119 [22:15] this is the downside of being in a global community, whenever something bad happens anywhere in the world, you probably know somebody near it [22:15] agreed [22:16] I'm down in Hollywood so I'm safe [22:22] mhall119: did popey say anything about our Sprint idea? [22:23] * ahoneybun moves over to -devel === paolo_ is now known as faLUCE