[01:22] <guillaume_> hi
[05:30] <jimtendo-X540S> Hi guys, my laptops been running a bit slow and I'm trying to debug why that might be. In Kinfocenter, I've noticed that under the power-consumption menu, the application that seems to be consuming the most power (significantly) is "irq/190-ELAN100". I'm pretty sure this is for my touchpad. Should it be consuming this much power or is this indicative of a driver problem probably?
[05:34] <sintre> i'm hardwared on this notebook
[05:34] <sintre> wired
[05:34] <sintre> older alppy but that power managerment issue changes  almost every second
[05:34] <sintre> so wouldn't look at it as a absolute
[05:34] <sintre> as for slow ness have you updated yet
[05:35] <sintre> olso what is your hardware
[05:35] <sintre> sorry for bad spelling
[05:35] <sintre> i promise i'm not 5
[05:35] <sintre> :)
[05:36] <sintre> haalso what version of kubuntu are you using atm
[05:37] <jimtendo-X540S> I'm currently running Kubuntu 16.04, everything has been updated and I'm running a 4.8.0-32 Kernel (had some problems with the 4.4 ones - intermittent crashes).
[05:38] <sintre> updated thru back ports or just normal updates system amanger alerts you to?
[05:38] <jimtendo-X540S> The Laptop itself is an Asus X540S (Quad-Core Pentium N3700's) with Intel Graphics (using i915 driver).
[05:38] <jimtendo-X540S> Normal updates - except for the Kernel... I originally was downloading these from Ubuntu's Mainline page.
[05:38] <sintre> ok good idea to install some back ports
[05:39] <sintre> new kde landed last night
[05:39] <jimtendo-X540S> haha, one minute... I'll go look up what they are ;)
[05:39] <sintre> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[05:40] <sintre> then type sudo apt update afterwards
[05:40] <sintre> then after that sudo apt full upgrade
[05:40] <sintre> i mean sudo apt full-upgrade
[05:41] <sintre> after your fully updated then we can troubleshoot a bit more
[05:42] <jimtendo-X540S> Wow... been using Kubuntu for probably almost three years and never new about backports!
[05:42] <sintre> lol
[05:42] <jimtendo-X540S> Thanks will give it a go now and be back in a few
[05:42] <sintre> btw go get a beer once you install
[05:42] <sintre> it might take awhile if you haven;;'t upgraded ibn awhile
[05:44] <jimtendo-X540S> haha, already on it ;) Let you know how it goes
[05:44] <sintre> :)
[05:45] <sintre> if on notebook i would plug in ac if possible onless on full charge , just incase
[05:47] <sintre> as for ower management and estimation , all systems window or any distro is so over the place its not even worth the time to figure out imo
[05:47] <sintre> log windows ten say is have 5 hours , then open a youtube video then its 4 hours
[05:47] <sintre> so on same with any power usage breakdown
[05:47] <sintre> i don't think a touch pad is draining your battery
[05:48] <sintre> only for like a decade accurate useage aand timer is a stop watch and use it as you want to
[05:48] <sintre> no matter what ditro
[05:48] <sintre> or os
[06:22] <valorie> !eol
[06:23] <sintre> testing bot?
[06:37] <valorie> sintre: just needed those links
[06:37] <valorie> I probably should have messaged the bot, but this time of day the chan is usually quiet
[06:38] <sintre> well had a guy in ealier , thought he'd come back but guess not
[06:38] <valorie> I miss the excellent bot while trying to hand out info in non-*buntu chans
[06:38] <sintre> he never upgraded thru backports and complained about slowness
[06:38] <sintre> so after 3 years of using lts
[06:38] <sintre> gave him the idea
[06:38] <valorie> yes, I read up
[06:38] <valorie> good help to him
[06:39] <sintre> like alot of people it good sign they go away as they don't need anymore help :)
[06:39] <valorie> true
[06:39] <sintre> ohh yea fixed my mouse, user error of sorts
[06:39] <valorie> I don't think they consider the people answering the questions as actual people
[06:39] <sintre> well not when you respond to them as servants
[06:39] <sintre> lol
[06:40] <sintre> but it is a pain like that guy who had a 2almost 24 hour trouble shooting session , would of been nice to know is ram set up
[06:40] <valorie> it took me years of using linux before I had time to think about pitching in
[06:40] <sintre> as to why all installers kept crashing for future reference
[06:41] <sintre> i'm geting better at asking questions that you wouldn't think to ask
[06:41] <sintre> before after troubleshooting myself
[06:41] <valorie> I find IRC help awesome
[06:42] <valorie> people here have helped me a lot
[06:42] <valorie> and I try to pay it forward when I can
[06:42] <sintre> i try to , go dthing is alot of other people will jump in that know way more than me
[06:42] <sintre> darrin taught me alot
[06:43] <valorie> he knows his stuff, yeah
[06:43] <sintre> although how to ge thru to kde people , to fix tthe silly unify problem , now that no console command can do :)
[06:44] <sintre> though the resort to useless screen bug seems to be fixed in last update
[06:44] <valorie> useless screen bug?
[06:45] <sintre> ohh , well duel minotrs have to modes primary  , which is wierd because thats the display open windows go to
[06:45] <sintre> and secondary
[06:45] <sintre> oddly the secondary screen desktop is where you actualy have task bar icon ect
[06:45] <valorie> ah
[06:45] <sintre> when in duel mode
[06:45] <valorie> I use only laptops, and don't have any secondary screens
[06:46] <valorie> although a few years ago, kscreen thought I did!
[06:46] <sintre> problem was when you stoped duel mode either you normal screen was primary or secondary
[06:46] <sintre> it turned into the display screen
[06:46] <valorie> and sometimes everything opened on that "other" screen
[06:46] <valorie> that was not good
[06:46] <sintre> only wora around i found was to rehook up monitor
[06:46] <sintre> then disable it while in duel mode
[06:47] <sintre> so no i can shut down pc and it returns toa useable screen
[06:47] <sintre> for now fingers crossed
[06:47] <sintre> yes , sound seems to run without manual config for now
[06:48] <sintre> i think for now is my best bet , as sometimes one thing can get fixed and break another
[06:48] <sintre> so two bugs down i'm happy
[06:48] <valorie> for sure
[07:59] <jimtendo-X540S> sintre: Thank you for your help... after using the backports repo and doing a full upgrade, things feel a lot more "responsive" (for lack of a better term). It also seems to have fixed the flickering issues I was encountering using the Brave Browser and Chromium (thinking something to do with rendering must've been updated?)
[08:00] <jimtendo-X540S> Are the packages from Backports the same as Kubuntu 16.10?
[08:13] <valorie> jimtendo-X540S: the same packages, updated -- except in a few cases (possibly) if there are updated dependencies which are new
[08:17] <sintre> well seems i missed  some thing with my shower beforre bed , did jim get thru thr upgrade?
[08:18] <valorie> "ter using the backports repo and doing a full upgrade, things feel a lot more "responsive" (for lack of a better term). It also seems to have fixed the flickering issues I was encountering using the Brave Browser and Chromium (thinking something to do with rendering must've been updated?)"
[08:18] <valorie> so yes
[08:18] <valorie> err, first word should have been after
[08:19] <sintre> glad to hear
[08:19] <sintre> at time he came in didn't mention any flickering issues
[08:20] <sintre> :)
[10:46] <renn0xtk9> kubuntu 14.04 plasma crashes (see the libreoffice apps but no desktop anymore). I reboot and can't log into the session anymore: after entering the password I see a blackscreen for one two seconds and it throws me back to the password screen
[10:46] <renn0xtk9> any help welcome
[10:53] <renn0xtk9> got it!! turns out it was the .Xautority stuff....
[11:51] <danijel> Hi
[11:53] <danijel> anybody know how print cd with canon ip4600 at last kubuntu OS
[11:53] <danijel> ?
[11:54] <danijel> 16.10 x64
[12:09] <mozammel> LINUX users: DO NOT BUY CANON PRODUCT they are purely sucked for linux support.
[12:09] <koffeinfriedhof> thank you for sharing your detailed knowledge.
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[17:12] <arunce> hi, is this normal? can't update: E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu yakkety Release' does not have a Release file.
[17:25] <BluesKaj> arunce, that ppa may have been removed
[17:30] <BluesKaj> arunce, you can remove it from /etc/apt sources.list.d  using, kdesudo dolphin /etc/apt sources.list.d , in krunner/run command
[17:30] <BluesKaj> arunce, correction  /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[17:48] <arunce> yes
[17:49] <arunce> BluesKaj: but it's the ppa you get from http://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-8-5-bugfix-release-in-xenial-and-yakkety-backports-now/
[17:52] <arunce> BluesKaj: on a second look, that's it. I was adding just ppa:kubuntu-ppa instead of ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[17:55] <arunce> BluesKaj: thank you
[17:55] <BluesKaj> arunce, I used the staging-plasma and frameworks ppas, but the backports ppa didn't fix my bugs, they look like they were just moved up to the backports from staging
[17:56] <arunce> ohh.. too late
[17:56] <BluesKaj> and thee were no packages to upgrade
[17:57] <arunce> just upgrade to 5.8.5
[17:57] <BluesKaj> yes, but with bugs
[17:57] <arunce> reboot, brb
[17:57] <BluesKaj> i'm getting Kwin crashes
[17:58] <arunce> do you use nvidia?
[17:58] <BluesKaj> yes
[17:58] <arunce> let me see
[17:58] <arunce> brb
[17:58] <BluesKaj> ok
[18:04] <arunce> back
[18:07] <arunce> just crashed
[18:07] <arunce> it was quick
[18:12] <arunce> BluesKaj: and system tray icons have a fixed size now, the date's font of the digital clock is huge.
[18:17] <BluesKaj> arunce, check your system settngs>app style>widget style and icons
[18:20] <arunce> BluesKaj: nothing new.. or did I miss something? (didn't crash)
[18:25] <BluesKaj> arunce, i meant try to change those settings temporarily to see if they will fix themselves when you go back to your preferred
[18:29] <arunce> BluesKaj: the icons size was dynamic at the system tray
[19:34] <efloid> anyone know why camera transfer is really, really slow?
[20:45] <psychoholic> hello does kubuntu work just like ubuntu as far as install go. I see CL install instructions for ubuntu every where can i use them for kubuntu also
[21:04] <valorie> psychoholic: yes, Kubuntu is Ubuntu
[21:05] <valorie> we use different DE and applications, and underneath, different libraries
[21:29] <psychoholic> so most of the time you add a source then install from source your saying i would have to make sure i use right source for kubuntu?
[21:30] <psychoholic> ill figure it out i guess lol time to install!!! been a little while since i used kubuntu
[21:57] <mhall119> ahoneybun: yo, you're not near the Ft. Lauderdale airport are you?
[22:10] <efloid> ok how to disable the alt-left click window move feature?
[22:11] <efloid> it interferes with applications!
[22:11] <efloid> oh i found it
[22:12] <efloid> Window Behavior -> Window Actions  change from Alt to Meta
[22:13] <ahoneybun> mhall119: I'm not
[22:14] <mhall119> ahoneybun: :)
[22:14] <ahoneybun> thanks mhall119
[22:15] <mhall119> this is the downside of being in a global community, whenever something bad happens anywhere in the world, you probably know somebody near it
[22:15] <ahoneybun> agreed
[22:16] <ahoneybun> I'm down in Hollywood so I'm safe
[22:22] <ahoneybun> mhall119: did popey say anything about our Sprint idea?
[22:23]  * ahoneybun moves over to -devel