[09:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2339 Preparing packages
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[10:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2339 Successfully built
[10:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2343 Preparing packages
[10:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2343 Needs building
[10:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2275 Preparing packages
[10:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2344 Preparing packages
[10:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2291 Dependency wait (xenial/unity8, zesty/unity8). Needs building (xenial/qmenumodel, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/unity-api, zesty/qmenumodel, zesty/qtubuntu, zesty/unity-api). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/qtmir). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/unity8-desktop-session, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtubuntu-gles, zesty/unity8-desktop-session)
[10:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2275 Currently building (xenial/hud). Failed to build (zesty/libqtdbustest). Needs building (xenial/indicator-display, xenial/indicator-sound, xenial/indicator-transfer, xenial/libqtdbusmock, xenial/libqtdbustest, zesty/hud, zesty/indicator-display, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/indicator-transfer, zesty/libqtdbusmock). Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (xenial/ubuntu-settings-comp
[10:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2291 Preparing packages
[11:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2275 Abandoning ticket
[11:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2344 Needs building
[11:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2343 Pending binary packages (zesty/webbrowser-app). Successfully built (xenial/webbrowser-app)
[11:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- oSoMoN, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2343 Successfully built
[11:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2344 Pending binary packages (xenial/hud, zesty/hud). Successfully built (xenial/indicator-display, xenial/indicator-sound, xenial/indicator-transfer, xenial/libqtdbusmock, xenial/libqtdbustest, zesty/indicator-display, zesty/indicator-sound, zesty/indicator-transfer, zesty/libqtdbusmock, zesty/libqtdbustest)
[11:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2339 Preparing packages
[11:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2291 Dependency wait (xenial/unity8, zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/qmenumodel, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8-desktop-session, zesty/qmenumodel, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtubuntu, zesty/qtubuntu-gles, zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity8-desktop-session)
[12:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2344 Successfully built
[12:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2339 Successfully built
[12:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/content-hub, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub)
[12:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2342 Abandoning ticket
[12:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Preparing packages
[12:30] <pete-woods> trainguards: hi folks. could someone remove HUD from this PPA? https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/2344/+packages
[12:30] <pete-woods> thanks!
[12:31] <xnox> Source and binaries deleted by Dimitri John Ledkov:
[12:31] <xnox> hud 14.10+17.04.20170106-0ubuntu1 in zesty
[12:31] <xnox> hud 14.10+16.04.20170106-0ubuntu1 in xenial
[12:31] <xnox> Deletion comment: pete-woods> trainguards: hi folks. could someone remove HUD from this PPA? https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/2344/+packages
[12:32] <pete-woods> wow, whatever happened there is very fancy
[12:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2344 Generating diffs
[12:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2344 Successfully built
[12:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Currently building (xenial/content-hub, zesty/content-hub). Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles)
[12:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2288 Preparing packages
[12:45] <jgdx> mardy, I've fixed this for now, assuming you're afk. If you come back, let me know if you want to merge in [1] or do nothing---either way works for me. [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/apl-1651183-test-fixes/+merge/314221
[12:46] <jgdx> (also, had a real hard time running make pot in that project, seems to assume some strange wd structure)
[13:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Failed to build (xenial/content-hub, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Uploading build (zesty/content-hub)
[13:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2236 Preparing packages
[13:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2291 Successfully built
[13:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2339 Preparing packages
[13:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Failed to build (xenial/content-hub, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Successfully built (zesty/content-hub)
[13:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2288 Successfully built
[13:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2339 Pending binary packages
[13:44] <ChrisTownsend> Is there a problem w/ britney for running autopkgtests for silos on Zesty?   The queue length is at 536 for amd64 and 502 for i386?  And it looked like this over 12 hours ago...
[13:45] <ChrisTownsend> silo 1985 seems to have a great many queued without running...
[13:47] <ChrisTownsend> trainguards: ^^^^^
[13:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2339 Preparing packages
[13:49] <Mirv> ChrisTownsend: I'm on public holiday today and sil2100 doesn't seem to be around either, but I just observed the same (I'd like the 1985 to progress over the weekend). ask on #ubuntu-release please
[13:49] <xnox> it's round-robin across ubuntu/huge/ppa/upstream i think. Given there are large items quota is exceed for all of autopkgtest. It will take time for it to ge through.
[13:49] <xnox> note that amd64 & i386 are actually shared resource.
[13:49] <Mirv> there seem to be tests running, I'm only wondering if x86 has full capacity available or some problems
[13:49] <xnox> things should get quicker once "huge" items complete.
[13:49] <xnox> should be done by monday....
[13:50] <ChrisTownsend> Mirv: Ok, thanks
[13:50] <ChrisTownsend> xnox: Ugh
[13:50] <ChrisTownsend> xnox: But thanks for the explanation.
[13:50] <Mirv> I'm just wondering why everything else is fast but x86
[13:50] <Mirv> ppc64el and armhf had the same amount of tests as x86 and they're all mostly done by now
[13:51] <xnox> ChrisTownsend, given that s390x is clear; and ppc64el/armhf are "low" i expect it's just that we have to wait.
[13:51] <ChrisTownsend> xnox: What does "huge" mean in tis case?
[13:51] <xnox> Mirv, ppc64el boxes we have are a lot faster than our x86, and for armhf we have a lot more resources (it's all/any arm64 boxes we have which are hyperscale)
[13:52] <xnox> ChrisTownsend, "huge" are tests that fail on usual sized VMs and need extra more disk space and RAM.
[13:52] <Mirv> if everything goes ok I'd like to even publish before end of weekend since that'll repeat the tests (and then re-repeat while everything needs to be rerun with all-proposed)
[13:52] <xnox> hence take up multiples of quota, versus "normal" tests.
[13:52] <ChrisTownsend> lol, and amd64/i386 is supposed to be the "cheap" hardware:)
[13:52] <ChrisTownsend> xnox: ok
[13:52] <xnox> ChrisTownsend, "cheap" != "free". ppc64el/s390x/arm64 are loaned hardware.
[13:53] <ChrisTownsend> xnox: I know.  I was trying to be funny:)
[13:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Preparing packages
[13:53] <ChrisTownsend> xnox: Thanks again for the explanations.
[13:54] <Mirv> yes, thanks!
[13:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2236 Pending binary packages (xenial/content-hub). Ready to build (xenial/qtbase-opensource-src-gles). Successfully built (xenial/qtbase-opensource-src, xenial/qtubuntu-print, xenial/ubuntu-printing-app)
[14:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2339 Pending binary packages
[14:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2236 Ready to build (xenial/qtbase-opensource-src-gles). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/qtbase-opensource-src, xenial/qtubuntu-print, xenial/ubuntu-printing-app)
[14:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, zesty/content-hub, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Uploading build (xenial/content-hub)
[14:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2339 Successfully built
[14:24] <taiebot> Hi do the rc-proposed image needs to be built ? i am on rc-proposed lookign at https://lists.launchpad.net/landing-team-changes/ nothing has gone in since 21/12/2016. I am still receiving image update is it normal? or is it just a rebuild of the same thng
[14:31] <jibel> taiebot, it's correct, last update to rc-proposed was oxide on dec. 21st. Daily builds are just rebuilds of the same thing
[14:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2272 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api)
[14:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2236 Preparing packages
[14:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, zesty/content-hub, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Pending binary packages (xenial/content-hub)
[14:49] <dobey> ugh, why is the autopkgtest queue so large on x86 archs?
[14:53] <dobey> qt i guess
[14:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2236 Pending binary packages (xenial/qtubuntu-print, xenial/ubuntu-printing-app). Ready to build (xenial/qtbase-opensource-src-gles). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/qtbase-opensource-src)
[14:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2236 Preparing packages
[15:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- artmello, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2179 Failed to build (xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, xenial/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles, zesty/content-hub, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, zesty/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub)
[15:03] <ChrisTownsend> dobey: See my conversation above about an hour ago.
[15:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- boiko tiagosh, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2283 Preparing packages
[15:03] <ChrisTownsend> Actually, a little over an hour ago:)
[15:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2272 Preparing packages
[15:06] <dobey> yeah
[15:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2272 zesty/unity8: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~lukas-kde/unity8/appdrawer-four-finger
[15:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho tiagosh boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2318 Preparing packages
[15:08] <Laney> Mirv: Why do you require all-proposed?
[15:08] <Laney> You know this basically DoSes the infrastructure, so it would actually be nice to fix that.
[15:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2345 Preparing packages
[15:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2236 Pending binary packages (xenial/qtubuntu-print, xenial/ubuntu-printing-app). Ready to build (xenial/qtbase-opensource-src-gles). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/qtbase-opensource-src)
[15:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- boiko tiagosh, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2283 Uploading build
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2345 Ready to build
[15:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2272 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/unity-api)
[15:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine ahayzen, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2236 Ready to build (xenial/qtbase-opensource-src-gles). Successfully built (xenial/content-hub, xenial/qtbase-opensource-src, xenial/qtubuntu-print, xenial/ubuntu-printing-app)
[15:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho tiagosh boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2318 Failed to build (xenial/telephony-service). Pending binary packages (zesty/telephony-service)
[15:43] <ChrisTownsend> xnox: Is it normal to have a linux autopkgtest running for over 7 hours?  See the zesty i386 test triggered by 'zlib/1:1.2.8.dfsg-4ubuntu1'...
[15:43] <xnox> ChrisTownsend, i do know that linux autopkgtests take forever; i do not know if 7 hours is normal.
[15:44] <xnox> also i do not have access to do anything about it.
[15:44] <xnox> maybe barry can
[15:44] <xnox> and he is not here.
[15:44] <ChrisTownsend> xnox: Oh, you don't have The Power.
[15:44] <ChrisTownsend> xnox: Ok, well, I'm concerned there are stuck tests for the archs we care about.
[15:45]  * barry waves
[15:45] <ChrisTownsend> lol
[15:45] <xnox> summon the master
[15:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2272 Preparing packages
[15:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- boiko tiagosh, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2283 Pending binary packages
[15:45]  * barry puts on his yoda mask
[15:45] <xnox> may the snap be with you?!
[15:45] <ChrisTownsend> barry: Seems maybe zesty i386 linux autopkgtest triggered by zlib/1:1.2.8.dfsg-4ubuntu1 might be stuck,
[15:45] <barry> :)
[15:46] <ChrisTownsend> barry: Last line of output has been the same for over an hour and the test has been running for over 7 hours.
[15:46] <ChrisTownsend> barry: And the zesty amd64/i386 queue is quite large and I'm concerned there are stuck tests.
[15:48] <barry> ChrisTownsend: one problem is that i don't think i have access (yet) to the actual infra :(  Laney does though i think.  (we really need to huddle up on this and work this out... i'll send an email to the relevant parties involved)
[15:48] <ChrisTownsend> barry: Ok, very few holding the keys:(
[15:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2272 zesty/unity8: Failed to merge https://code.launchpad.net/~lukas-kde/unity8/appdrawer-four-finger
[15:48] <Laney> What's the problem?
[15:49] <barry> yep.  we're still trying to figure out where all the pitti horcruxes are stashed
[15:49] <Laney> I think that test is progressing.
[15:49] <ChrisTownsend> Laney: Is it?  The last line is quite static.
[15:49] <Laney> 15:47:53
[15:49] <barry> ChrisTownsend: refresh
[15:49] <Laney> That's now.
[15:49] <ChrisTownsend> barry: lol, pitti horcruxes <- I like that:
[15:49] <barry> :)
[15:50] <ChrisTownsend> Damn, I'm impatient:)
[15:50] <Laney> We got a lot of big tests at the same time
[15:50] <Laney> and then a *lot* of KDE ones in the queue
[15:51] <ChrisTownsend> Laney: barry: xnox: Ok guys, sorry for my noise.  I'll let it do it's thing and be quiet:)
[15:52] <barry> it's all good
[15:52] <Laney> Hopefully it'll drain over the weekend
[15:58]  * xnox damns these millennials that want it all and want it now. </giggles>
[16:06] <ChrisTownsend> lol, I'm hardly a millennial:)
[16:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2345 Pending binary packages
[16:07] <ChrisTownsend> xnox: But thanks for the back-handed compliment, lol
[16:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ltinkl, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2272 Successfully built
[16:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2339 Preparing packages
[16:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- dednick, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2291 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/unity8). Successfully built (xenial/qmenumodel, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/qtubuntu, xenial/qtubuntu-gles, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity8, xenial/unity8-desktop-session, zesty/qmenumodel, zesty/qtmir, zesty/qtmir-gles, zesty/qtubuntu, zesty/qtubuntu-gles, zesty/unity-api, zesty/unity8-desktop-session)
[16:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- renatofilho tiagosh boiko, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2318 Failed to build (xenial/telephony-service). Successfully built (zesty/telephony-service)
[16:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- boiko tiagosh, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2283 Successfully built
[16:25] <Mirv> Laney: because KDE Frameworks is stuck in proposed for a month, and rebuilds of some of those are needed in the PPA which in turn require other components in proposed
[16:26] <Mirv> btw all x86 queues seem to have virtually same numbers for last 10h, maybe it's just that the pace of completing tests is the same as new ones coming
[16:27] <Laney> It's that the ones in progress are huge
[16:27] <Laney> Mirv: Can you think about whether your dependencies can be improved please?
[16:27] <Mirv> I guess the huge queue deserves its name then
[16:28] <Laney> If you require all-proposed it's a hint that they aren't quite right
[16:28] <Mirv> Laney: hmm. I need no-change rebuilds of some KDE components, and then all of KDE releases (frameworks, plasma, apps) work so that they release tarballs of 200+ packages all with same new version numbers which require each other. so from Qt side, I don't know what I could do.
[16:29] <Laney> Generate some Breaks or something
[16:29] <Mirv> that coupled with the fact that all those KDE parts tend to spend most of the cycles stuck in proposed because of the autopkgtests that aren't fixed, leads to this
[16:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2127 Needs rebuild due to new commits (zesty/camera-app). Successfully built (xenial/address-book-app, xenial/camera-app, xenial/content-hub, xenial/gallery-app, zesty/address-book-app, zesty/content-hub, zesty/gallery-app)
[16:30] <Mirv> it'd be ok if there wasn't KF stuck in proposed, since then normal release pocket would work with those no-change rebuilds of the around 4 KDE packages
[16:30] <Mirv> but since the no-change rebuilds need to be of the versions that are stuck in proposed, I can't think of how it could be workarounded
[16:31] <Laney> If your package in proposed requires another one, then the dependency should express that
[16:31] <Laney> likewise if it's broken with a thing in release
[16:32] <Laney> If it's wasn't so many packages then we might want to overlook it, but since every upload blocks the infrastructure for several days I think it's worth some effort
[16:32] <Mirv> Laney: right, maybe the KDE packages could be then improved. however, I do not have time to become Kubuntu developer per se.
[16:32] <Mirv> and they have their own release infrastructure somewhere else from where they upload with some scripts AFAIK and then copy from PPAs to release
[16:34] <Mirv> and they probably do have the hard requirements of everything to be the latest version, in which case my PPA wouldn't ever have the 200 required packages as it only has the 4 no-change rebuilds. so the others from proposed pocket would always be needed.
[16:34] <Mirv> (unless some day there wouldn't be stuck packages in proposed for months)
[16:35] <Mirv> they have these version requirements even if there wasn't anything wrong most of the time to use the older versions, ie allow my rebuilds to be tested with archive versions of the KDE dependencies
[16:38] <Mirv> I still kind of think that if Kubuntu people don't have anyone to debug the autopkgtests, maybe they should just do manual QA and disable the autopkgtests when importing from Debian
[16:39] <Mirv> it's not nice, but thousands of autopkgtests run that no-one has time to look at does not help much
[16:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2339 Pending binary packages
[16:44] <Laney> It would be nice if you would talk to them about the problems
[16:46] <Laney> Maybe they'll do that
[16:47] <Mirv> I do talk with them, but maybe not from the same perspective (eg resource use and improving it), more like if they have someone who can look at autopkgtests (they have one, but the one hasn't been seen for some weeks now). If they do raise the issues with Release Team etc, I hope they also can discuss it. But I'll raise a couple of points more over there.
[16:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2127 Preparing packages
[16:56] <Mirv> Laney: it put me also thinking that it'd be nice if autopkgtests could be guided if the default run mode is all-proposed or not. also, for x86-only packages (the twin packages qtbase-gles, qtdeclarative-gles) also other archs are run.
[16:56] <Mirv> Laney: the combined effect of a) needing to rerun with all-proposed, b) twin gles packages doubling some of the reverse dependencies testing, c) silo testing done separately (and twice, first without all-proposed which fails for KDE packages) is quite big
[16:58] <Mirv> also, if I could somehow select not to run any KDE related autopkgtests, it would save huge amount of effort on the silo side
[16:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Laney, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2346 Abandoning ticket
[16:59] <Mirv> the simplest thing, though, would be that KDE packages wouldn't be stuck in proposed causing the doubling of points a) and c)
[17:01] <Laney> Mirv: No, you should think of all-proposed as being a workaround, not something to use routinely
[17:01] <Laney> Not sure what you mean about the x86-only thing, please file a bug (lp:auto-package-testing) and explain it fully
[17:02] <Laney> And bileto is triggering the PPA tests AFAIK, so if it wants to do something different there then it could
[17:04] <Mirv> Laney: it is a workaround for the fact the KDE release is stuck in proposed because of an earlier upload that hasn't been seen through. it's just that it is the case 90% of the cycle usally since they kind of work on their PPAs and then dump it to archives and they don't have people looking at the autopkgtests. they just generally hope that it gets done by the release.
[17:06] <Mirv> Laney: ok, filed a bug
[17:06] <Mirv> Laney: yeah, maybe I could chat with robru at some point to see if some control over what's going to be launched could be done
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[17:07] <Mirv> Laney: ok, reportedly there has been talks about just disabling KDE autopkgtests, not sure if they're going to go forward with that or not. they are obviously also frustrated about everything being stuck for months.
[17:09] <robru> Mirv: eh, what? you want britney to hard-code a "no kde autopkgtests" rule?
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[17:10] <Mirv> robru: possibly, anything that improves the situation of not running 10 million tests that no-one is looking at would be an improvement.
[17:10] <Mirv> especially running those when something is in a silo still
[17:11] <robru> Mirv: surely it's easier to just drop the test from the packaging than to hard-code a corner case in britney?
[17:12] <robru> it's surely easier for me ;-)
[17:12] <Mirv> robru: basically everything at https://bileto.ubuntu.com/excuses/1985/zesty.html with roughly version numbers 5.26.0, 5.28.0, 4:16.04.3, 4:5.7.5 would do. then again, they are already launched now.
[17:12] <Mirv> robru: yes, surely, that's what I hope they'd do but I can control the flavors
[17:12] <Mirv> and it sounds like they might just do that
[17:13] <Mirv> robru: so probably nothing to do right now, but if the situation persists and is about to appear again, maybe it would be useful to be able to limit the scope a bit
[17:15] <seb128> well if nobody can be bothered fixed the things they land in proposed maybe delete the buggy upload from there and ask them to upload again when they fix it?
[17:15] <seb128> fixed->fixing
[17:16] <seb128> if an upload is buggy and stops other builds we delete it
[17:16] <seb128> we should be able to do the same with things that DoS the infrastructure in a durable way
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