[00:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted nova-lxd [source] (xenial-proposed) [13.2.0-0ubuntu1]
[00:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pulseaudio [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:8.0-0ubuntu3.2]
[00:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted unity-gtk-module [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.0.0+15.04.20150118-0ubuntu3]
[00:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted hdhomerun-config-gui [source] (xenial-proposed) [20150826-0ubuntu1.16.04.0]
[00:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted hdhomerun-config-gui [source] (yakkety-proposed) [20150826-0ubuntu1.16.10.0]
[01:51] <tsimonq2> barry: aaaargh /o\ I totally forgot
[01:52] <tsimonq2> And unfortunately I have no energy left for today...
[03:59] <barry> tsimonq2: no worries.  i have a version in my ppa: https://launchpad.net/~barry/+archive/ubuntu/experimental/+packages
[03:59] <barry> tsimonq2: i did just a little testing before i had to go, but will test more tomorrow
[06:44] <ginggs> thanks apw (re:sunpy removal)!  Can I get a  'force-badtest sunpy/0.7.4-2/armhf' as well for the autopkgtest that is no longer installable please?
[07:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: olefile (zesty-proposed/primary) [0.43-1~ubuntu1]
[08:18] <apw> ginggs, done
[08:18] <ginggs> apw: ta!
[10:40] <jamespage> please could the ceph sru's in xenial and yakkety proposed be rejected; I want to recut with a few other fixes
[10:41] <rbasak> Done
[10:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ceph [source] (xenial-proposed) [10.2.5-0ubuntu0.16.04.1]
[10:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ceph [source] (yakkety-proposed) [10.2.5-0ubuntu0.16.10.1]
[11:11] <jamespage> rbasak, ta
[14:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: calligra [s390x] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1:2.9.11+dfsg-4] (kubuntu)
[14:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: calligra [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1:2.9.11+dfsg-4] (kubuntu)
[14:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: calligra [powerpc] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1:2.9.11+dfsg-4] (kubuntu)
[14:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: calligra [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1:2.9.11+dfsg-4] (kubuntu)
[15:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: calligra [i386] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1:2.9.11+dfsg-4] (kubuntu)
[15:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: calligra [arm64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1:2.9.11+dfsg-4] (kubuntu)
[15:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: calligra [armhf] (zesty-proposed/universe) [1:2.9.11+dfsg-4] (kubuntu)
[17:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted s390-zfcp [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.0.2ubuntu1.1]
[17:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted glib2.0 [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.48.2-0ubuntu1]
[17:16] <tyhicks> hello! I'm curious if anyone on the SRU team could give me an update on the status of the apparmor 14.04 SRU?
[17:40] <xnox> tyhicks, they are flying to cape town?! =) is that good enough update /me giggles
[17:40] <xnox> slangasek, ^^^
[17:40] <tyhicks> xnox: good, I'll be able to ask them in person :)
[17:41] <tyhicks> I've been off this week but I was surprised that I didn't see it move to trusty-updates
[17:41] <tyhicks> I can ask around more in Cape Town
[17:42] <tkamppeter> slangasek, hi
[17:45] <tkamppeter> Yesterday I have asked because of cups-filters 1.13.2 not making it from zesty-proposed to zesty release and slangasek told me that the binary package cups-ipp-utils needs to get proposed to main and he told he would do it immediately. Was this actually done?
[17:46] <xnox> that's easy to check with rmadison.
[17:47] <xnox> it is in main
[17:47] <xnox> $ rmadison -S cups-ipp-utils -> says it's in "zesty" implying main.
[17:47] <xnox> universe would have been "zesty/universe" like it is in xenial, xenial-proposed, yakkety.
[17:48] <xnox> cups-filters is a valid candidate
[17:48] <Laney> it's the poppler transition
[17:49] <xnox> which needs "just" there to finish I think: calligra, karbon, libreoffice-pdfimport, pdf2htmlex
[17:49] <xnox> or is there a transition tracker?
[17:49] <Laney> dunno, looks like it's being handled so not getting involved
[17:49]  * xnox likes it.
[17:49] <xnox> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/poppler.html
[17:53] <tkamppeter> xnox, Laney, thank you very much for the update.
[17:59] <dmj_s76> xnox: Do you know when the iso will get the new kernel for testing 16.04.2?
[18:07] <xnox> dmj_s76, no, i saw things in some channel that it's in progress and/or done, or some such.
[18:07] <xnox> but maybe not yet.
[18:17] <mapreri> pdf2htmlex should build now that I fixed a dep of it
[18:18] <mapreri> if you could accept calligra from NEW would help ;)
[18:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted calligra [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [1:2.9.11+dfsg-4]
[18:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted calligra [armhf] (zesty-proposed) [1:2.9.11+dfsg-4]
[18:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted calligra [powerpc] (zesty-proposed) [1:2.9.11+dfsg-4]
[18:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted calligra [s390x] (zesty-proposed) [1:2.9.11+dfsg-4]
[18:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted calligra [arm64] (zesty-proposed) [1:2.9.11+dfsg-4]
[18:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted calligra [ppc64el] (zesty-proposed) [1:2.9.11+dfsg-4]
[18:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted calligra [i386] (zesty-proposed) [1:2.9.11+dfsg-4]
[19:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: cpio [amd64] (zesty-proposed/main) [2.11+dfsg-6] (core)
[19:23] <apw> mapreri, ^
[19:26] <jbicha> mapreri: I'm doing another fixup upload of calligra now but I expect calligra will get stuck because of the ongoing kde transition anyway
[19:46] <clivejo> jbicha: is there anyone you know could help us get KDE frameworks moved on and out of proposed
[19:49] <jbicha> clivejo: is the blocker just autopkgtests?
[19:50] <clivejo> yes
[19:50] <clivejo> and I dont have the skill/knowledge to fix them :(
[19:50] <jbicha> ok you're in the right channel since there's people here who can set those to be ignored
[19:50] <clivejo> can't find anyone else willing to take the time and teach us either
[19:51] <clivejo> we also have a new Qt landing soon which Mirv has been working on
[19:54] <clivejo> jbicha: is there anyone in particular to ping regarding this?
[19:55] <jbicha> by the way, I noticed that kdevplatform's autopkgtest exists on Ubuntu but not Debian
[19:57] <jbicha> you could try emailing ubuntu-devel if you want to see if anyone can help with troubleshooting autopkgtests
[19:58] <jbicha> for ignoring autopkgtests, you could try pinging one of https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/britney/hints-ubuntu/files
[19:59] <clivejo> that doesnt appear to be current
[19:59] <clivejo> Jon Riddell and Scott Kitterman are no longer working on the project
[19:59] <jbicha> sure, but 3 people made changes in 2017 already
[20:01] <clivejo> bar Colin I dont know anyone else who is active on that list
[20:03] <clivejo> jbicha: BTW are you aware that calligra is at 3.0.0.1 now? ( http://download.kde.org/stable/calligra-latest/ )
[20:03] <clivejo> and that 2.9.11 is KDE4?
[20:06] <robru> any core devs around who can assign me some bite-size archive maintenance tasks? (and then sponsor uploads later?) thanks
[20:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cpio [amd64] (zesty-proposed) [2.11+dfsg-6]
[20:07] <cjwatson> clivejo: have you at least tried setting up autopkgtest sufficiently locally so that you can run the tests and iterate on fixes?
[20:07] <cjwatson> there's no point to autopkgtests if people are just going to reflexively ignore failures - and I hope people nowadays agree that tests are worthwhile
[20:10] <jbicha> robru: archive maintenance? maybe https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/ is some of what you're looking for
[20:10] <clivejo> cjwatson: honestly, no.  I have no idea how to do that locally and I don't have the equipment or internet to even try it locally.  I was looking into trying to get a public instance so that we would do tests and fix them before even uploading, but that hit a brick wall
[20:10] <cjwatson> I refreshed my setup recently for debugging openssh - it's a bit fiddly but not too bad.  if you're on xenial then the easiest way is probably to follow the procedure in adt-build-lxd(1)
[20:10] <cjwatson> and I have utterly rubbish internet
[20:11] <robru> jbicha: I was thinking more like http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/zesty/update_excuses.html but not clear to me who's working on what (or what would be bite-sized) so hoping for some guidance picking something
[20:12] <cjwatson> in many cases it doesn't need any particular equipment beyond what you need for ordinary development
[20:12] <clivejo> we had one guy santa_ who setup his own equipment to do the tests, but I haven't seen him about in a few months now
[20:13] <cjwatson> I think honestly nowadays it's something that everyone who uploads stuff would be well-served taking an hour or two to learn how to do
[20:16] <clivejo> cjwatson: you are quite right, I have tried to learn it, but haven't found any online docs to help with that and everyone I've asked has basically been too busy doing other things
[20:16] <cjwatson> ok, well, adt-build-lxd(1) is my pointer from recent experience, and the directions in adt-virt-lxd(1) seem to work fine
[20:17] <cjwatson> (the former setup for building the base image, the latter for running individual tests)
[20:18] <jbicha> robru: ok, there's also http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/
[20:20] <mapreri> apw: thanks :)
[20:23] <mapreri> jbicha: :(
[20:50] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks jbicha wrt calligra :) I fixed the breaks+replaces typo and uploaded
[20:50] <LocutusOfBorg> release team please demote mensis to proposed, this will make poppler / fontforge transitions finish
[20:50] <LocutusOfBorg> mensis is out of Debian Stretch, rc buggy, rebuilding is useless
[20:55] <clivejo> how are you guys dealing with the package split in calligra?
[20:55] <LocutusOfBorg> breaks+replaces and sync with Debian
[20:55] <LocutusOfBorg> but I didn't do the work, so I can't answer :)
[20:56] <clivejo> ok
[20:57] <clivejo> so are you guys taking over maintenance of calligra now?
[20:58] <LocutusOfBorg> the maintainer is ubuntu developers
[20:59] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm not really sure about what you mean... you can still upload/maintain it, just the delta should be reduced now
[20:59] <LocutusOfBorg> and the package is 30MB instead of ~150
[20:59] <LocutusOfBorg> :)
[20:59] <LocutusOfBorg> if you want to maintain it in Debian, and sync I think it would be awesome, I don't see much gain in having two different packaging in Debian and Ubuntu
[21:00]  * LocutusOfBorg didn't do the work, and is just trying to make poppler migrate
[21:01] <clivejo> just don't understand why we are updating old versions
[21:04] <clivejo> calligra (KDE4) is now split into calligra + krita + kexi all KF5
[21:14] <LocutusOfBorg> https://packages.qa.debian.org/c/calligra.html
[21:14] <LocutusOfBorg> seems split yes
[21:14] <LocutusOfBorg> not sure what is the question, nor I understand what calligra does
[21:15] <jbicha> clivejo: no I don't intend to maintain KDE stuff, I just helped reduce the diff with Debian and get the package to build
[21:32] <acheronuk> LocutusOfBorg: calligra now has a 3.0.0.1 Qt5/KF5 version with krita and kexi removed, whereas the legacy 2.9 branch is Qt4. hopefully that can be packaged for zesty in time
[21:38] <LocutusOfBorg> nice :)
[21:39] <clivejo> not really
[21:39] <clivejo> as we can't upload them
[21:40] <LocutusOfBorg> why?
[21:40] <jbicha> clivejo: please file a bug and subscribe ubuntu-sponsors
[21:40] <clivejo> they become NEW and get queued
[21:40] <clivejo> and we don't have a MOTU on our team any more
[21:42] <LocutusOfBorg> jbicha, uploading once again
[21:43] <clivejo> jbicha: we have 36 NEW packages on our list, no-one will take it on
[21:44] <LocutusOfBorg> clivejo, why not apply for PPU?
[21:44] <LocutusOfBorg> or MOTU
[21:44] <clivejo> I don't know enough
[21:45] <clivejo> only got my Kubuntu Devel permissions few months ago
[21:46] <acheronuk> they need adding to our packageset, but that is not happening very fast at the moment
[21:46] <acheronuk> hence a bit frustrating
[21:46] <jbicha> if you just open a bug, attach the .debdiff or point to the git branch or whatever, and subscribe ubuntu-sponsors, it will show up on http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/
[21:47] <jbicha> and there are several people who regularly look for stuff on there to sponsor
[21:48] <clivejo> jbicha: you mentioned trojita a while back
[21:48] <clivejo> would you be prepared to sponsor it?
[21:49] <clivejo> http://trojita.flaska.net
[21:49] <jbicha> someone probably will, just leave an explanation for why Debian never got around to uploading it
[21:50] <clivejo> they short on packagers, same as us!
[21:50] <mapreri> clivejo: also in Debian there are people regularly sponsoring packages, and the Qt/KDE team is quite active with several active DDs, if you want to do the work there :P
[21:53] <clivejo> mapreri: maybe a few years down the line when I learn some more :)
[21:54]  * clivejo is currently very content and happy in his little Kubuntu CI bubble
[21:55] <clivejo> well until acheronuk broke it by adding Qt5.7.1
[21:55] <mapreri> clivejo: anyhow, if the Kubuntu team lacks proper MOTUs, just open bugs and subscribe ubuntu-sponsors, somebody will look at it at some point :)
[21:56] <acheronuk> clivejo: sorry :P trying to fix
[21:59] <acheronuk> or I will if QtWeEngine builds in less than 4hrs tonight
[22:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected linux-firmware [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.157.7]
[22:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: linux-firmware (xenial-proposed/main) [1.157.6 => 1.157.8] (core, kernel)
[23:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cups-filters (xenial-proposed/main) [1.8.3-2ubuntu3.2 => 1.8.3-2ubuntu3.3] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)