[11:28] <ochosi> bluesabre: just replaced notebook with gtkstack in xfce4-notifyd-config, that was surprisngly easy and looks quite great too
[12:21] <bluesabre> ochosi, can't say it looks great and then not post a screenshot :)
[12:22] <flocculant> ha ha ha 
[12:22] <flocculant> morning bluesabre :)
[12:22] <bluesabre> morning flocculant 
[12:23] <flocculant> bluesabre: re ochosi and the settings manager in gtk3 - I assume you'd put that on the current ppa for zesty and I would just see the update? 
[12:23] <flocculant> even if it goes awfully wrong and ppa-purge :D
[12:23] <bluesabre> flocculant, yeah, I'll let you know when its up
[12:23] <bluesabre> I'll probably toss it in my experimental ppa first, dunno how bad it can be
[12:24] <flocculant> ack 
[19:47] <ochosi> bluesabre_: hehe, alright, here you go: http://i.imgur.com/NuBqoe3.png
[19:47] <ochosi> http://i.imgur.com/vjUfAdi.png
[19:47] <ochosi> http://i.imgur.com/xHEVzAv.png
[19:48] <ochosi> flocculant: a look into the future ^
[19:49] <flocculant> I saw :)
[19:50] <flocculant> and I hope it's Xubuntu ... you're go to Xfce distro :p
[20:56] <ochosi> flocculant: wait, what..?? :) are you hanging out with the elementary folks or something?
[20:56] <flocculant> nah - that was on one of those screenshots :p
[20:57] <ochosi> oh, haha
[20:57] <ochosi> yeah, the notification log should be blurred by default on screenshots ;)
[20:57] <flocculant> :p
[20:57] <ochosi> i still need to fix the clear log and refresh buttons
[20:59] <flocculant> looks good though :)
[21:00] <ochosi> thanks, yeah the inline toolbar makes the buttons more connected to the widget they belong to
[21:00] <ochosi> or did you mean the revamp in general?
[21:00] <flocculant> well - both really - the revamped revamp and the original revamp :)
[21:02] <ochosi> :D
[21:02] <ochosi> thanks
[21:02] <flocculant> welcome :)
[21:08] <flocculant> ochosi: btw - I'm watching for gtk3 s-manager btw - as soon as I see it - I'll test scrolling and let you know (assuming I see it first ;) )
[21:09] <ochosi> i'll push my latest changes to my branch soon btw
[21:09] <ochosi> and this may be test-worthy too
[21:09] <ochosi> at least if the problem was really on xfce4-notifyd's side
[21:09] <ochosi> because the widgets changed a lot
[21:09] <ochosi> no more gtknotebook
[21:09] <ochosi> maybe that helps with the scrolling
[21:10] <flocculant> ochosi: just let me know and I will git pull (I think) and test
[21:10] <ochosi> purrfect
[21:11] <flocculant> well I did that with what I have and see some changes already :)
[21:12] <ochosi> :)
[21:12] <ochosi> yeah, but it's not the last transformation/cleanup
[21:12] <flocculant> nope - I see it's not like the one you screenshot just now 
[21:12] <ochosi> you also noticed the application icons?
[21:13] <flocculant> I do now :D
[21:19] <flocculant> especially the non-existing xfces4-settings-helper one :D
[21:19] <flocculant> I would screenshot it - but it's all blurred lol
[21:21] <ochosi> :D
[21:21] <ochosi> yeah, the search for icons is far from perfect or good
[21:21] <ochosi> i'm still not sure whether it's better to show them as is or remove them again
[21:29] <flocculant> ochosi: well - I don't know how perfect it would be in the end - any reason why xfce4-anything-at-all 'needs' to have an icon eg. tell it not to use those even if they exist? 
[21:30] <ochosi> sry, can you rephrase that in simple english?
[21:30] <flocculant> rather than show a 'no icon available' thing
[21:30] <flocculant> ochosi: I'll try 
[21:30] <ochosi> there shouldn't be a "broken image" icon in the last revision
[21:30] <ochosi> maybe you need to git pull again
[21:30] <ochosi> (if that was your concern)
[21:31] <flocculant> it is - I did - it's still there 
[21:32] <ochosi> that is odd
[21:32] <flocculant> anyway - might point was - nice to see application icons - but for the things like I see here http://i.imgur.com/dIdsdPa.png
[21:32] <ochosi> could you do a "make distclean" and start again from autogen?
[21:33] <ochosi> oh, that looks ok
[21:33] <ochosi> apart from settings-helper
[21:33] <flocculant> is there any actual reason to see those xfce4-any-thing with an icon?
[21:33] <ochosi> you mean like places-plugin?
[21:34] <flocculant> eg if some have them - some don't and some give the broken image - could those icons just be ignored completely? 
[21:34] <flocculant> yea
[21:34] <ochosi> the broken image should never be shown, not sure why it is in this case
[21:34] <flocculant> ok
[21:34] <ochosi> i check whether an icon with that name exists in the icon theme and if it does i display it, if not i display an empty image
[21:35] <ochosi> when does settings-helper show a notification...
[21:35]  * ochosi scratches head
[21:35] <flocculant> well just distclean and redid autogen etc - and it still shows broken
[21:35] <ochosi> i need to reproduce that
[21:35] <ochosi> hm, that is not even an executable
[21:35] <flocculant> well - yea I don't even know what it does lol
[21:35] <ochosi> is your log still there?
[21:35] <ochosi> you could open it and search
[21:36] <flocculant> nah I cleared it the other day when it was full of track 1 track million etc
[21:36] <ochosi> full log is in: ~/.cache/xfce4/notifyd/log
[21:36] <flocculant> yup
[21:36] <ochosi> k
[21:36] <flocculant> oh hang on - I copied it to yak and xenial to test those
[21:37] <ochosi> actually i guess i can fake it
[21:37] <flocculant> nothing in there that looks close 
[21:38] <ochosi> ok, i get the same broken image here
[21:39] <ochosi> very strange
[21:39] <ochosi> that icon definitely does not exist
[21:47] <flocculant> ok cool 
[21:47] <flocculant> well - you know what I mean - you can see it too :)
[21:48] <ochosi> yup
[21:48] <ochosi> thanks
[21:48] <flocculant> sometimes I'm not sure whether it's just 'my installs' 
[21:49] <ochosi> well oftentimes it's not ;)
[21:49] <flocculant> :D
[21:49] <ochosi> ok, pushed another small change for the primary monitor option
[21:50] <ochosi> now when i've fixed the inline toolbar buttons (refresh and clear) i'll be done with the settings dialog for now
[21:50] <flocculant> :)
[21:59] <ochosi> righty, done
[21:59] <ochosi> may add some icons to those two buttons
[21:59] <ochosi> or even another button that opens the full log in a text editor
[21:59] <ochosi> but that is optional and for later
[22:01] <ochosi> flocculant: do you have any input on the phrasing of some of the options?
[22:03] <ochosi> also, would you be ok with testing the log options once more? (i'm removing the "never" option now as it doesn't seem to make sense anymore)
[22:04] <flocculant> ochosi: can I look tomorrow at the phrasing - supermarket has just delivered stuff for a month here 
[22:04] <flocculant> and yes ofc I will test the options again - I'll turn on ones I have turned off currently too :)
[22:04] <ochosi> sure, anytime
[22:05] <ochosi> there's no rush
[22:05] <flocculant> ok - well I will look at that tomorrow for you otherwise I'll forget :)
[22:09] <flocculant> ochosi: I'm going to disappear shortly - I will git pull etc tomorrow before checking wording so I'm sure of being up to date with it 
[22:09] <ochosi> absolutely!
[22:09] <ochosi> i shall do the same
[22:09] <ochosi> i really need the slee
[22:09] <ochosi> p
[22:09] <flocculant> :)
[22:09] <flocculant> I remember those days with fondness ... not sure I felt that fond when I had toddlers though :D
[22:10] <flocculant> night night ;)
[22:11] <ochosi> hehe
[22:11] <ochosi> i will push this to master soon i think
[22:11] <ochosi> it's in really good shape already
[22:11] <ochosi> thanks for your help flocculant 
[22:16] <flocculant> never a problem :)
[22:17] <flocculant> I'll be away now - night :)
[23:07] <bluesabre> ochosi, thanks, looks good
[23:08] <bluesabre> padding is a bit funky, but good
[23:08] <bluesabre> and inline toolbar buttons are usually icon only
[23:09] <bluesabre> and linked
[23:09] <bluesabre> :D