[00:05] <bel_ki> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12289 1.5year ago find this bug & i step on it too
[01:16] <turbo64> gtk3 apps have different menubars than gtk2 apps in the adwaita theme
[01:16] <turbo64> is there a way to fix this
[01:16] <turbo64> i thought adwaita was supposed to be fully integrated between gtk2 and 3
[01:18] <knome> adwaita is a gtk3-only theme
[01:22] <turbo64> what is a theme that looks the same in all applications
[01:22] <knome> i don't think there is one
[01:22] <knome> gtk2 and gtk3 are completely different beasts
[01:27] <turbo64> what a disaster
[01:27] <turbo64> and adwaita is not a gtk3 only theme
[01:27] <turbo64> its for both gtk2 and 3
[01:28] <knome> well, sure, but it doesn't really try to do much with gtk2
[01:28] <knome> the main focus is gtk3
[01:28] <knome> as is with most themes today
[01:32] <turbo64> im absolutely disgusted with the gnome developers and their idiotic decisions
[01:33] <turbo64> and worried what xfce will be like after fully transitioning to gtk3 (if that will even happen)
[01:34] <turbo64> the gnome devs seem to be good at staying one step ahead in preventing any 3rd party developers from properly adapting things to gtk3
[01:34] <turbo64> since every update breaks everything
[01:36] <bazhang> gnome devs isnt really on topic in this channel
[01:36] <bazhang> try to file some bugs with the gnome project
[01:40] <knome> or help out with the development and theme work to make things better
[07:58] <JSBmanD> Hi, how i can connect with maintainer of docs?
[08:03] <bazhang> which docs JSBmanD
[08:03] <JSBmanD> Of xubuntu 16.04
[08:03] <JSBmanD> Who helps editing it
[08:03] <bazhang> whats the issue with those
[08:06] <flocculant> JSBmanD: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
[08:06] <flocculant> that will get to the people who maintain the docs
[08:07] <JSBmanD> I need reg?
[08:08] <flocculant> JSBmanD: I think you can write to the list - then it would get moderated - and approved eventually
[08:08] <JSBmanD> Thanks
[11:30] <Jerome_> hello, can someone tell me how i can build a system for storage and mediaplay ?
[11:31] <Jerome_> instead of a NAS, i would like to dive into the option to get a basic computer and use it as server with mediaplay options
[11:32] <two_jays> you could use FreeNAS as OS and install the Plex lṕlugin for media
[11:34] <Jerome_> Hello Two_jays, would a dualcore basic pc work or spend a bit more money and get a quadcore?
[11:34] <Jerome_> i've got a Banshee FM library of around 60 to 75 gigs of music in high Ogg Vorbis quality
[11:36] <two_jays> i dont use it myself and cant say that with confidence. i would guess it should work depending on what sort of dualcore...you should read more information on FReeNAS on the internet ;)
[11:36] <Jerome_> ok ! thanks !
[12:05] <leapover> Hello, can someone help me?
[12:06] <knome> leapover, ask your question and find out
[12:08] <leapover> I have an AWUS036ac usb wifi adapter, which requires the rtl8812au driver.  I obtained the driver from github modified to work with linux.  I know from previous experience that there is an issue with network-manger recognizing the adapter, see here: https://github.com/gnab/rtl8812au/issues/81 My current issue is i need to downgrade to networkmanger 1.0.10 but this version isn't offered in the xenial repos.  Do i just enable the prev
[12:09] <knome> your message got cut from "..enable the prev"
[12:10] <leapover> Do i just enable the previous releases repo to downgrade to this version?
[12:11] <knome> no, that's not as simple as just enabling the repository, and downgrading is generally not a recommended method
[12:11] <knome> (though i understand you need the older version, but there are other ways to achieve that)
[12:12] <leapover> Gotcha, any ideas on how to obtain that version then?
[12:13] <knome> http://askubuntu.com/questions/138284/how-to-downgrade-a-package-via-apt-get
[12:13] <knome> that guides you to downgrade a single package only
[12:14] <knome> note that you should be cautious when proceeding
[12:14] <knome> it's possible that downgrading a package means a lot more packages need other versions as well
[12:14] <knome> especially with a relatively essential/core component like network manager
[12:15] <knome> another option is to try to find a newer version of the driver that works with the current network manager
[12:22] <leapover> I should note that i had this working on xenial prior to clean installing, but i failed to take note of the network-manger situation before hand.  The last release with a compatible version of nm was vivid vervet, can you illuminate how i would select a version from vervet?  attempting to install with apt install network-manager=x.x.x does not work as the compatible version isn't available in current release. Really appreciate your 
[12:49] <leapover> Is downloading the .tar.xz and manually installing an acceptable way?
[20:54] <rexfish25> Hi
[20:55] <rexfish25> I am currenly installing Xubuntu.
[20:55] <rexfish25> What should I do next?
[20:55] <rexfish25> I am used to windows only...
[20:56] <xangua> Use it?
[21:03] <bryceml> I always add a shortcut key to open the whisker menu with the left super (windows) key after install, I would also install chrome if you want to watch netflix.
[21:19] <xubuntu08i> Hi.
[21:20] <xubuntu08i> I am new to Ubuntu (Xubuntu) and I want to get a near experience to Windows, any help?
[21:28] <xangua> Near experience of what?
[21:29] <xangua> If you want thing to work like Windows, maybe you should go back to Windows (+_+)
[21:31] <xangua> What is exactly what you want?
[21:32] <mrkramps> xangua, already left the channel ;)
[21:33] <xangua> Maybe went back to Windows I guess
[22:24] <digbychicken> so...install Xubuntu, go to IRC to ask what to do next, get no answer...uninstall Xubuntu...makes sense. :)
[22:25] <knome> most people aren't working logically
[22:25] <knome> i mean come on, "go to IRC to ask what to do next", who'd do that
[22:30] <digbychicken> yep
[22:55] <andrewrx> Ugraded from 16.04 to 16.10, 2016-MSI laptop doesn't boot any more. 4.8 kernel detects 3.0Gbps speed then gets "qc timeout" messages on all 4xSSD's (although grub and kernel loaded off them), followed by failure to identify ata. System still boots on 4.4 kernel, which detects SSD speed at 6Gbps. Any hint what I should be looking for?
[23:33] <Stern> Hi all, I try to install XRDP on Xubuntu 16.10 but it does not seem to work when connecting. Has someone got this working?