[09:46] <bazhang> munkygirl> yall need to calm down i just helped him you skids
[09:46] <bazhang> oh skids
[09:46] <bazhang> 'google it'
[09:46] <bazhang> yeah thas so helpful
[12:23] <ubottu> cfhowlett called the ops in #ubuntu (mices)
[13:38] <Phanes> Mornin'.  Back for the 48 hour followup to continue discussions regarding recent retaliatory ban in #ubuntu.
[13:39] <Phanes> I see that the ban is still in place but am going to provide good faith that this is resolved but some discussion is needed.
[14:04] <Phanes> !ops
[14:04] <ubottu> Thanks for letting us know you are here, someone will be along presently
[14:04] <ubottu> Phanes called the ops in #ubuntu-ops ()
[15:29] <Phanes> o/
[16:32] <Phanes> must be bad timing.  ill come back in later.
[21:13] <Phanes> Dave, ping
[21:13] <Phanes> woof.  Dax
[21:14] <dax> stand by, am waiting for a response from IRCC
[21:15] <Phanes> ok
[21:18] <Phanes> it's pretty dead in there, i wonder if saturday was the best day to try to talk this out
[21:21] <dax> i'll get one of them, it just takes a few minutes (sorry for the delay)
[21:22] <Phanes> you're fine.  hopefully they will be discussing this and not handing out some verdict where input was gathered in my absence sans rebuttal
[21:43] <Flannel> Hi Phanes.
[21:44] <Phanes> o/
[21:44] <Phanes> you guys getting a cold snap too?  central ohio has turned into a roller skating rink
[21:44] <Flannel> Not really, no.
[21:45] <Phanes> below zero after windshield factor last night
[21:46] <Flannel> Those windshields really are brutal.
[21:47] <Phanes> lol
[21:47] <Phanes> wind-chill
[21:47]  * Phanes disables thaT
[21:48] <Flannel> So, I've looked at all the relevant logs and I'm comfortable with removing your ban in #ubuntu as long as you avoid interacting with ikonia for a while.
[21:49] <Phanes> I think that's appropriate.  Although this #LFS is pretty bothering.
[21:49] <Flannel> You two have a bit of a history, and I think a period without all the banter would be healthy.
[21:49] <Phanes> I'm unaware of the history if you know something I don't
[21:49] <Phanes> besides LFS.  ikonia is a 'familiar' nick name
[21:50] <Flannel> by 'history', I mean you and he are familiar with each other, and from what I've seen it's not a cooperative familiarity.
[21:50] <Phanes> it's most certainly not
[21:50] <Phanes> i am philosophically opposed to his administrative approach
[21:51] <Flannel> But categorizing it isn't important.
[21:51] <Phanes> these are places of learning
[21:52] <Phanes> That said I still think after this is sorted out that re-evaluating the blacklisting factor as a violation of code of conduct merits some words.
[21:52] <Flannel> Phanes: So, does that seem reasonable to you?
[21:53] <Flannel> Phanes: Yes, that's a separate thing and I think it's important to keep them separate.
[21:53] <Phanes> Agreed
[21:53] <Flannel> Plus, that one is with the IRCC, and this one is just with me.
[21:53] <Phanes> ok
[21:53] <Flannel> As much as I try, I'm no good at being five people at the same time.
[21:53] <Phanes> heh, try building a linux distro some time lol
[21:53] <Phanes> it is surprisingly more stressful than it sounds
[21:54] <Phanes> i've read more in this build out than all of the cs courses i took in school put together
[21:54] <Flannel> Phanes: alright, I've removed your ban in #u.  Please go verify (join and say something) so we know it's successfully removed.
[21:55] <Flannel> Try to keep #ubuntu to just support (which is always the goal for everyone), and avoid queries with ikonia, obviously.
[21:55] <Phanes> i'd prefer to put him on ignore if that's workable
[21:55] <Flannel> I think that would be fine.
[21:56] <Phanes> still deciding on that as i should keep channels open for resolution in case he becomes reasonable about the ban
[21:56] <Phanes> ok
[21:56] <Phanes> im in
[21:57] <Flannel> Great.  I think that does it then?
[21:57] <Phanes> how do i follow up with this sig council thing, i am unfamiliar with your process
[21:57] <Flannel> With my other hat on, we're still in internal discussions (it sometimes takes a while, since we're all on different schedules)
[21:58] <Flannel> But I will keep you informed when we've wrapped those up.
[21:58] <Phanes> nah thats fine.  despite irc's age these types of orgs are still evolving and growing.
[21:58] <Phanes> it may be that there's just not a process yet for those kinds of things
[21:58] <Phanes> alright.  thanks again.
[21:59] <Flannel> No, there's a process.  We're following said process.  It's just not something that can be run to completion in 24 hours.
[21:59] <Phanes> ok
[21:59] <Flannel> Yep, thank you.
[23:24] <k1l_> <stevwills> i just got banned by #archlinux :(
[23:26] <k1l_> i dont understand the "i got banned in channel X so i will go to channel Y and tell them".
[23:26] <valorie> asking for sympathy maybe
[23:29] <k1l_> possibly. or to start something in the next channel. or to get people join the old channel and look at whats going on.
[23:32] <bazhang> I want to go there for help, but I got banned so I come here
[23:33] <ikonia> he was just being silly, I suspect he's young, trying to be "noobs are silly they run commands like rm -rf /"
[23:33] <ikonia> got warned not to post that sort of thing, and posted two other dangerous commands with "lol" style attitude
[23:34] <k1l_> he just posted the "girl dropped out of college because of using ubuntu" youtube url.