[00:00] <kernello> bashing-om, my first problem is that I cannot partition /dev/sda..would it work nevertheless? I will try it as soon as my current trial is done :)
[00:03] <Bashing-om> kernello: What I have done successfully in a similar situation as yours is to remap the sector containing the partition table and install a backup superblock . Now the question is if there exist these backup superblocks .
[00:06] <kernello> Bashing-om, I'd found some superblock locations, the first one being 32768
[00:06] <kernello> but I couldnt proceed from there because I couldnt partition
[00:07] <Bashing-om> kernello: And the target drive and partition ? . You must be absolutely certian of what we are working on !
[00:08] <kernello> Bashing-om, yes, they're correct
[00:09] <Bashing-om> kernello: Please tell me what the taget drive and partition is . I really hate to destroy a system becuase of bad info .
[00:10] <kernello> Bashing-om, target drive is /dev/sda. I am running on /dev/sr0 (live cd)
[00:11] <kernello> I applied the command, the terminal has been blinking since
[00:11] <michi> g
[00:12] <kernello> and I see a process going on disk
[00:12] <Bashing-om> kernello: Great and the partition is the 1st one on the SSD .. such that we are looking at sda1 ? ( dd is not known as Disk Destroyer for nothing ) .
[00:12] <kernello> Bashing-om, there is no sda1 on disk, it is unpartitioned, because it could not be partitioned
[00:12] <kernello> it is one single block
[00:12] <kernello> sda
[00:13] <kernello> gparted returned i/o error when I tried to partition it
[00:15] <Bashing-om> kernello: Ouch, not at all sure what do do as the device has no partitions . Working at  the block level is beyond ny experience .
[00:15] <kernello> maybe I leave it as is
[00:17] <kirball> n /#jaxlug
[00:21] <backbox> hi everybody
[00:21] <Funtick> Алиска http://rexant.org.ru/aliska.mp4
[00:21] <Funtick> Hi bro
[00:21] <bazhang> dont paste that here Funtick
[00:21] <backbox> :)
[00:21] <Funtick> ok sorry :(
[00:36] <kernello> Bashing-om, thank you very much! I will not try further for the moment :)
[00:37] <Bashing-om> kernello: Sorry not to of any help :( .
[00:38] <kernello> Bashing-om, no, by no means :) wish you a good day/night!
[00:41] <user138432> I cant restart my server "A start job is running for sys-subsystem-net-devices-eth0.device"
[00:41] <user138432> It is Ubuntu 16.10
[00:46] <rdekock> quit
[00:49] <hhee> hey. ubuntu unity - is there some options or program to switch between running app using mouse? insted alt + tab
[00:49] <hhee> instead*
[00:56] <wafflejock> hhee, hold down the windows/super key to see some options for spreadin windows then could select with mouse
[00:57] <G-ShocK> how do I get netsurf ver 3.6 from the repositories, if I'm on ubuntu 14.04?
[00:57] <wafflejock> !info netsurf trusty
[00:58] <nacc> G-ShocK: netsurf is only at 3.6 in zesty
[00:58] <nacc> G-ShocK: which hasn't released yet, anyways
[00:58] <wafflejock> G-ShocK, looks like that version isn't available in trusty
[00:58] <nacc> G-ShocK: so you'd need to find a PPA or build from source
[00:59] <G-ShocK> what if
[00:59] <G-ShocK> I wanted yaketty's version, would that be possible ?
[00:59] <nacc> yakkety's version is at 3.2+dfsg-3
[01:00] <nacc> G-ShocK: and no, that's not available for trusty either, you'd still need to look for a PPA or build from source
[01:00] <nacc> G-ShocK: unless you were running yakkety
[01:00] <G-ShocK> oki, thanks :)
[01:05] <rc3k2s0> hello, I'm trying to understand the /proc/ exe folder. Does it only appear when a process is running? I don't seem to be able to find it under 4.8.0-22
[01:06] <nacc> rc3k2s0: well, there is no /proc/exe folder, it's /proc/<pid>/... and exe is not a folder, but a symlink.
[01:06] <nacc> rc3k2s0: what are you actually trying to do?
[01:07] <rc3k2s0> nacc: reviewing some material about processes. In this example it has ls /proc/exe/ would show the running processes.
[01:09] <rc3k2s0> the example has ls -l exe showing all the running processes. It was probably done on an older version.
[01:10] <rc3k2s0> I'm guessing the exe only appears if a process is running or has been removed in the newer version.
[01:10] <rc3k2s0> will cross post to ubuntu-server
[01:11] <nacc> !crosspost | rc3k2s0
[01:11] <nacc> rc3k2s0: what material?
[01:11] <nacc> rc3k2s0: there is no /proc/exe/ any longer afaict,
[01:11] <rc3k2s0> ubottu: apologies, too late
[01:11] <akik> rc3k2s0: the /proc/pid/exe only exists for running processes
[01:12] <rc3k2s0> :)
[01:12] <nacc> akik: right, but they are asking about something like '/proc/exe', which I can't recall ever seeing
[01:13] <rc3k2s0> Ok, thought that might be the case akik: thanks
[01:13] <xangua> hhee: you set enable a hot corner to activate alt tab or expose
[01:13] <akik> rc3k2s0: can you double check that it says /proc/pid/exe and not /proc/exe ?
[01:13] <nacc> rc3k2s0: please do not be confused. /proc/exe and /proc/<pid>/exe are different things. THe first does not exist. The second only exists for a running process
[01:15] <rc3k2s0> nacc: the /proc/<pid> all exist
[01:17] <nacc> rc3k2s0: yes, I never said they didn.t
[01:17] <nacc> rc3k2s0: I said /proc/exe does not exist
[01:18] <rc3k2s0> akik: nacc: confirmed. It's off /proc/<pid>/exe, thanks for that
[01:25] <stevecam> hey, im having trouble setting up my printer in ubuntu, its a HP Color LaserJet Pro M177fw, but whenever i try printing something it comes up in my print ques as "stopped"
[01:25] <hhee> wafflejock, xangua thx guys!
[01:28] <jiffe> so I had installed phpmyadmin which initially had asked me to setup the phpmyadmin database.  I've purged and reinstalled mariadb so I tried to reconfigure phpmyadmin to recreate the database but it doesn't ask to recreate the database.  I purged and reinstalled phpmyadmin but it still doesn't ask me to recreate the database
[01:28] <jiffe> any idea what I'm missing?
[01:30] <stevecam> this is my /var/log/cups file http://pastebin.com/TrrCFT5k
[01:49] -hotwjh:#ubuntu- HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HU
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[01:49] -wprbitr:#ubuntu- HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE H
[01:49] -tnrlb:#ubuntu- HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HU
[01:49] -fxynv:#ubuntu- HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE
[01:50] -hisydh:#ubuntu- â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â
[01:50] -vxmspd:#ubuntu- ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊⒺ ⒽⓊ
[01:50] -cqrdl:#ubuntu- â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“
[01:50] -korre:#ubuntu- â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â
[01:50] -qmwmw:#ubuntu- â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’º â’½â“Šâ’
[01:50] <wafflejock> jiffe, purge and reinstall should work fine
[01:50] <wafflejock> jiffe, can try sudo dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin
[01:52] <hatch789> hey guys I just tried upgrading my ubuntu remote server from 14x to 16.04
[01:52] <hatch789> I am running into an issue where now I'm scared to reboot because I don't think my kernel built properly
[01:53] <hatch789> I have the following kernel files and I don't think all of the new ones are there
[01:53] <hatch789> initrd.img-4.4.0-57-generic   ...then I have an empty 0 byte vmlinuz-4.4.0-57-generic
[01:54] <cluelessperson> Hey all, randomly in 16.10,   I'm losing the ability to access the internet
[01:54] <cluelessperson> apparently my IRC connection is still open (TCP stream)
[01:54] <cluelessperson> any ideas what the fuck this is
[01:54] <bazhang> no cursing here cluelessperson
[01:54] <hatch789> if anyone is able to help me with this kernel issue I would be grateful
[01:54] <training> hi
[01:55] <evert> hi
[01:55] <bazhang> hatch789, a custom kernel from where
[01:55] <hatch789> it's just from the do-dist-upgrade command
[01:56] <hatch789> my stupid /boot sector was full
[01:56] <bazhang> hatch789, thats not a viable command
[01:56] <hatch789> so I did some remove's after to try to free space
[01:56] <bazhang> hatch789, removed how
[01:56] <hatch789> do-release-upgrade
[01:57] <hatch789> I removed them with the apt-get remove command
[01:57] <bazhang> hatch789, that will not remove kernels
[01:57] <hatch789> and then also tried the --purge
[01:57] <cluelessperson> I have an IP, I CANNOT pint the router
[01:57] <bazhang> hatch789, so where is this custom kernel from
[01:57] <Bashing-om> hatch789: ' ls -al /vmlinuz* ' shows the correct symlinks to what is currently in /boot ?
[01:58] <bazhang> patience cluelessperson
[01:58] <hatch789> it's not a custom kernel it's just the one built from the do-release-upgrade command
[02:00] <hatch789> I have just one link when I did the check in the vmlinuz directory:
[02:00] <hatch789> Gold.Rush.S07E10
[02:00] <hatch789> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Jan  6 19:52 /vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-57-generic
[02:00] <hatch789> sorry about the mis-paste
[02:00] <WildPenguin> I see some people at both channels, Debian's and Ubuntu's. I would be interested in knowing which one they would recommend for a Linux newbie. Because, I assume they have used both for a considerable length of time and know both the distros well.
[02:01] <cluelessperson> Other devices on the network or fine, it's just my machine
[02:02] <hatch789> so is there any way to rebuild or re-construct the kernel that the do-release-upgrade command was going to do for me?
[02:02] <hggdh> WildPenguin: it is, usually, the one you feel better with. Keep in mind that UBuntu relies on Debian (and many Debian devs are Ubuntu devs, and vice-versa)
[02:02] <WildPenguin> ok.
[02:03] <WildPenguin> I am buying a new laptop this week, which comes without any OS pre installed. I intend to install some good linux OS on it.
[02:03] <Bashing-om> hatch789: The kernel exist ' ls -al /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-57-generic ' ? . Always fixable .. with the time and effort .
[02:04] <hatch789> Bashing-om can we get into a private chat ? I don't know much about IRC to know how to do that
[02:05] <hggdh> WildPenguin: since you re here, I suggest Ubuntu :-)
[02:05] <Bashing-om> hatch789: No Private, leep it in channel for peer review and educational for those others lurking here to learn .
[02:05] <Bashing-om> leep/keep*
[02:05] <hatch789> ok
[02:06] <hatch789> so if my vmlinuz file in /boot is 0 bytes, i assume that's bad
[02:06] <hatch789> I'm comparing to my local system which did NOT have this issue because it has /boot in the same volume as /
[02:06] <hatch789> but on my remote server it was built with a stupid 150m /boot partition
[02:06] <hatch789> and that has run out of room several times before
[02:06] <cluelessperson> weird, it works now
[02:07] <hatch789> today being the worst when it apparently ran out of room during the upgrade :(
[02:07] <hatch789> so now I'm stuck with no abi-4.4.0-57-generic file
[02:07] <hatch789> and no config-4.4.0-57-generic
[02:08] <hatch789> system.map and 0 byte vmlinuz
[02:08] <Bashing-om> hatch789: That can not be good, agreed . what have we for operational head room . need for you to pastebin ' df -h ; df -i ' . We do this slowly and cargfully., on small step at a time .
[02:09] <hatch789> explain pastebin please?
[02:09] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Any consolation to you, I have been to this rodeo before .
[02:10] <hatch789> that is great news. I know I'm in over my head but I know enough to NOT reboot my server until this is resolved
[02:10] <hatch789> I'd love to make my /boot larger but I don't think you can on a remote server
[02:10] <hatch789> pastebin
[02:12] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Sure, a pastebin is an online repository of the output of your terminal . The easy way here is ' df -h | nc termbin.com 9999 . The result is a URL back in terminal, Pass that complete link back here .
[02:13] <hatch789> do I end the command in 9999 or in 9999 .    ?
[02:14] <hatch789> http://termbin.com/dqqg
[02:15] <Bashing-om> hatch789: sorry that be ' df -h | nc termbin.com 9999 ' with out the quite marks .
[02:15] <hatch789> http://termbin.com/ezak
[02:15] <hatch789> I think those both worked
[02:18] <Bashing-om> hatch789: so far so good " 153M " used to be enough to work with , not sure how nuch space systemd requires . Now we need to know what the booting kernel is ' uname -r ; . We must not mess with this kernel !
[02:19] <hatch789> http://termbin.com/ln8g
[02:19] <hatch789> I accidentally killed my existing kernel files when trying to make room so I'm quite screwed
[02:20] <hatch789> I know I already broke the cardinal rule :(
[02:20] <arooni> hmmm
[02:20] <hatch789> hatch = screwed ....right?
[02:21] <zerorax> hi, is there a way to make run a command as a specific user at system startup(before login)
[02:22] <Bashing-om> hatch789: With care and attention we can recover . A lot of time ! . ok need to see what is in 3 directories before we start cleaning up . show ' ls -al /usr/src/  ' as a a place to start .
[02:23] <hatch789> http://termbin.com/scxo
[02:25] <Bashing-om> hatch789: K, I be a bit , while I am setting up;  pastebin ' ls -al /lib/modules/ ' And I catch up .
[02:25] <hatch789> http://termbin.com/3ahb
[02:25] <photon156> Windows and Ubuntu don't boot anymore, I think something in the BIOS is wrong. Could anyone help me troubleshoot?
[02:28] <Bashing-om> hatch789: And while I work on the libs directory, next is ' ls -al /boot ' ( so far so good !) .
[02:29] <hatch789> http://termbin.com/94x7
[02:29] <hatch789> I'm so upset that my darn /boot directory is 150m ...this bit me before and now it's killing me.
[02:30] <hatch789> if they just would have left boot go under / like normal it would have been fine
[02:32] <Bashing-om> hatch789: ya been rm'n behind the package manager's back . now we got to really break the package manager and then have it heal it's self . we can do that . / gimme a bit ,
[02:33] <hatch789> yes I know ...I was trying to make room and realized I was stuck... :(
[02:34] <hatch789> but tell me this even if I had a perfectly healed package manager and clean (half full) boot... when I did that do-release-upgrade command I bet it still would have run out of space?
[02:35] <bazhang> for a seperate /boot of only 150mb?
[02:35] <hatch789> bazhang: yes ...it's the most brutal punishment
[02:35] <bazhang> thats fairly tiny
[02:37] <hatch789> bazhang: some idiot admin set it up that way for me on my leased server before I knew enough about linux to object
[02:37] <Bashing-om> hatch789: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1357093 . I be working .. hang on .
[02:37] <hatch789> so a year later after i have been working hard and learning, I realize I am crippled by this tiny boot directory but it's much to late to fix it
[02:38] <hatch789> Bashing-om: thank you
[02:39] <Nach0z> hatch789: you can use gparted to change your partition sizes
[02:40] <hatch789> Nach0z: gparted requires me to have something more than just terminal (ssh) access... doesn't it?
[02:40] <Nach0z> uhhhh. Technically yes, but you can use SSH X11 forwarding
[02:40] <Nach0z> hatch789: if you're on windows, install XMING. then look up SSH forwarding
[02:41] <Nach0z> putty'll do it built-in
[02:41] <hatch789> Nach0z: well if I get this mess fixed with my kernels then I will see if I can increase my /boot partition.
[02:45] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Moving on smatly - slowly - along. run in terminal ' sudo rm -rf /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-{45,46,48,49,51,52,54,88,93,95,98}{,-generic} ' . next is the libs directory .
[02:45] <hatch789> ok
[02:46] <hatch789> so my command is: sudo rm -rf /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-{45,46,48,49,51,52,54,88,93,95,98}{,-generic}
[02:48] <hatch789> http://termbin.com/mcit
[02:48] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Yeah .. proof reading my work on your end is a good thing too . I can make errors ! . does that run clean ?
[02:48] <hatch789> yes it worked
[02:48] <hatch789> we not mesing with the 100 and 106 kernels?
[02:49] <hatch789> you can just tell me to delete everything accept bla
[02:49] <hatch789> I am fairly adept with linux, just not so good with kernel building issues
[02:49] <hatch789> so you don't have to make the commands so tediously
[02:49] <hatch789> but you're very kind for spoon feeding me these commands. I know your'e trying to make sure i don't mess up
[02:50] <hatch789> http://termbin.com/mcit
[02:50] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Not yet . small steps . And yes we will want to return to them, I got such a small mind ;) .. now run ' sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/3.13.0-{45,46,48,49,51,52,54,88,93,95,98}* ' . Mind that '*' wild card character !
[02:51] <hatch789> ok done.
[02:51] <hatch789> http://termbin.com/5onf
[02:55] <hatch789> Bashing-om: your bug report link is spot-on. But there seems to be no fix in place for us with a current installation.
[02:55] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Not looked at the lsat link . next I have is for you to run ' sudo rm /boot/*-3.13.0-{45,46,48,49,51,52,54,88,93,95,98}-generic ' .
[02:55] <hatch789> because our partitions are already made and we have to just live with them
[02:57] <photon156> Can someone help me? Nothing boots anymore. Award bios
[02:57] <reisio> photon156: what happens instead?
[02:57] <hatch789> ok done. /boot is cleaned up now as well
[02:58] <photon156> It starts to boot.. Loading dmi pool data... Black screen, full reboot
[02:58] <photon156> No were
[02:58] <photon156> Error*
[02:58] <reisio> photon156: so it loads the initrd?
[02:59] <photon156> Not even sure. How would I check? I know I can geta load message. From grub, but after the load message it restarts
[02:59] <photon156> Sorry about the keyboard annd typos
[02:59] <reisio> photon156: go into your bios and reset it to default/optimal settings
[03:00] <photon156> Already did, no change
[03:00] <Bashing-om> hatch789: All looks good we go back and clean up the 100 amd 106 kernels, I see no reason not too . same as before .
[03:01] <hatch789> ok I'm on it
[03:01] <reisio> photon156: does a live OS boot?
[03:01] <photon156> Yes
[03:01] <photon156> Cd only
[03:02] <reisio> cd only, as opposed to?
[03:02] <photon156> Cd and usb.
[03:02] <reisio> ...
[03:02] <reisio> photon156: so what's on your internal storage right now?
[03:02] <hatch789> Bashing-om: ok /usr/src clean and /lib/modules now cleaned up 100 and 106 files and directories are gone
[03:03] <photon156> One hard drive has ubuntu 16.04 and one has win10, both have grub (i know only one needs it)
[03:04] <reisio> photon156: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:04] <reisio> follow that
[03:04] <photon156> Windows doesn't boot either. Nothing does.
[03:05] <reisio> photon156: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:05] <reisio> follow that
[03:05] <Turiya> Welcome to emergency mode! after raising network interfaces. whats the solution?
[03:07] <reisio> Turiya: what's the problem?
[03:07] <Turiya> i didnt have any issues before adding an entry for a md0 interface in /etc/fstab
[03:07] <reisio> so boot a live OS and undo that
[03:07] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Yeah .. proof reading my work on your end is a good thing too . I can make errors ! . does that run clean ? Nextn we have a bit of clean up to do .
[03:07] <Turiya> i setup a raid5 setup using mdadm
[03:07] <reisio> Turiya: oh yeah? Why'd you set up a RAID setup?
[03:08] <Turiya> i have 6x6TB hdds in a raid5
[03:08] <reisio> that doesn't explain why you have
[03:08] <Turiya> i'll remove the fstab entry and see if that gets the system to boot
[03:08] <reisio> good idea
[03:08] <hatch789> Bashing-om: I'm ready
[03:09] <hatch789> Bashing-om: all cleanup of /boot, /usr/src and /lib/modules directories seems to be done
[03:09] <Turiya> ok that got the system to boot
[03:09] <Turiya> but the problem is the fstab entry is perfectly formatted...
[03:09] <Bashing-om> hatch789: I got lost somehow ??? .. run ' sudo apt -f install ' package manager heal thuself ! then some clean up .
[03:09] <Turiya> its just "/dev/md0                /mnt/raid5              ext4    defaults        0 0"
[03:11] <Turiya> are you allowed to have a space inbetween lines in fstab?
[03:11] <Turiya> that could be the issue
[03:11] <hatch789> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/zy8cuskt
[03:12] <hatch789> Bashing-om: seems like it's doing far too little
[03:12] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Look'n .
[03:12] <hatch789> Bashing-om the normal update in 14x used to get a TON of stuff now this gets like 8 lines and done???
[03:14] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Looks good no sas or back talk :) .. now run ' sudo apt purge linux-{headers,image}-3.13.0-{45,46,48,49,51,52,54,88,93,95,98,100,106}.*
[03:16] <Turiya> im sick and tired of this bullshit
[03:16] <Speiros> Turiya It will work out.  It can be frustrating though.
[03:16] <hatch789> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/eWWyS4RT
[03:17] <hatch789> not sure what no sas or back talk means?
[03:17] <hatch789> software as a service?
[03:17] <Turiya> ok found the problem. /dev/md0 doesn't exist according to "mount -av"
[03:18] <Turiya> so mdadm isnt sticking the device to md0
[03:18] <Turiya> its moving around
[03:18] <reisio> Turiya: my guess is that your problem is using RAID at all
[03:18] <reisio> you aren't running a server service which requires redundancy of access, are you?
[03:18] <reisio> no, you aren't
[03:18] <reisio> so don't use RAID, it's not what you want
[03:19] <TheMarius> sadly linux is still too plagued with stuff like this, i couldnt find gnome schedule for 16.04 so im stuck manually configuring cron ... seriosly wish linux could take the step into the gui world once and for all
[03:19] <reisio> TheMarius: like what?
[03:19] <jowatextra> does a app exist for editing the windows of the apps like resizing and moving the widgets
[03:19] <reisio> jowatextra: for customizing themes?
[03:19] <TheMarius> ubuntu does a fairly good job but theres still stuff lacking
[03:19] <reisio> TheMarius: not finding a package for a specific version of Ubuntu is an Ubuntu problem only
[03:20] <reisio> assuming it isn't just that you personally can't find it :)
[03:20] <Turiya> reisio: so your saying that i'm expected to run a 30TB partition in raid0?
[03:20] <TheMarius> snappy packages would fix the issue with gnome scheduler
[03:20] <Turiya> with 9x 6TB hdds.. thats just dumb
[03:20] <TheMarius> reisio, its not in the repos because it doesnt support an older package it depends on
[03:21] <Bashing-om> hatch789: By now you know that if the system accepts an execute directive, it just does it, the only time there is an advisory is if there is a problem ( sas and backtalk !) . I expected that last or similar, we looki'n good ! . Now is the sytem happy ? run ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' and next we work on making sure that you can boot .
[03:21] <TheMarius> gnome scheduler is kinda neat.. gui for cron
[03:21] <reisio> TheMarius: like I said, Ubuntu issue
[03:21] <reisio> Turiya: nope
[03:21] <reisio> Turiya: is that all you want, to combine separate devices into a single FS?
[03:22] <Turiya> yeah sure
[03:22] <Speiros> Does anybody continue to work on the older versions of Ubuntu?  Like, are there any places where people are developing, but using their initial versions, and adding information to a manual?
[03:22] <Turiya> with a bit of redundancy, hence the choice of using parity/raid5
[03:22] <reisio> Turiya: try JBOD, mhddfs, LVM, etc.
[03:22] <Turiya> k
[03:22] <reisio> RAID is not about redundancy, disabuse yourself of that notion
[03:22] <reisio> not redundancy of data, anyway
[03:22] <Turiya> i have LTO6 tape as a backup medium
[03:23] <reisio> my guess is mhddfs will be simplest
[03:23] <hatch789> http://pastebin.com/gBu7DmrQ
[03:23] <reisio> if you're already using LVM, that might be pretty easy, too
[03:23] <reisio> Turiya: nice
[03:23] <hatch789> Bashing-om: Please look at that one carefully. It is what I was saying before. seems like apt update is doing little and apt upgrade (or in this case full-upgrade) is also doing little to nothing
[03:24] <hatch789> Bashing-om: looks like my /boot directory is still the same as before. Nothing new in there
[03:26] <Bashing-om> hatch789: " Please look at that one carefully." is whuch one ? .. in /boot presently all we should have is the -92 and -57 kernels .
[03:26] <hatch789> http://pastebin.com/gBu7DmrQ
[03:26] <hatch789> Bashing-om: that last pastebin
[03:27] <jowatextra> reisio, no like moving and resizing the widgets on the windows
[03:27] <WildPenguin> hello, how can I reduce the cpu usage on Lubuntu? or better manage the cpu?
[03:28] <WildPenguin> so that generally there is a faster performance.
[03:28] <hatch789> Bashing-om: this is my /boot directory. Still doens't seem to have the proper files in it... http://pastebin.com/KJuJSFan
[03:29] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Yeah, we still have some work to do ! .. show ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' . We see what we need to add .
[03:30] <jowatextra> does an app exist for editing the windows like resizing and moving the widgets
[03:30] <xangua> WildPenguin: I don't imagine how more fast can it be when you're already using Lubuntu
[03:30] <josue> okey
[03:30] <xangua> jowatextra: what widgets?
[03:31] <hatch789> Bashing-om: here you go: http://pastebin.com/Xp9vujwM
[03:31] <WildPenguin> ok. Lubuntu is the fastest available.
[03:32] <Bashing-om> hatch789: I be a bit ^ considering what we have and where we are going .
[03:32] <hatch789> ok
[03:32] <jowatextra> xangua: every widgets make me rage because of his position and his size
[03:33] <reisio> jowatextra: you'll want to customize your themes, then
[03:33] <N__> can the launcher be redesigned for ubuntu
[03:33] <reisio> GTK+, Qt, whatever you're using
[03:33] <reisio> N__: yes of course
[03:33] <N__> how is that
[03:33] <N__> ??
[03:33] <reisio> N__: how do you want to redesign it?
[03:34] <N__> giving a menu desined sty;e
[03:34] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Does not compute .. ! All thise old header files should have been rtemoved ! . be back in a bit .
[03:34] <jowatextra> reisio nop i want to do that in realtime on already open windows
[03:34] <hatch789> ok
[03:35] <reisio> jowatextra: you can do that by modifying themes
[03:35] <hatch789> starting to get scared...
[03:35] <josue> ¿alguien aca habla español?
[03:35] <reisio> hatch789: 'bout?
[03:35] <reisio> josue: /msg alis list *ubunt*es
[03:35] <josue> ¿para que sirve esto?
[03:35] <hatch789> I thought we were onto the fix but now my last command shows a ton of packages that should have been removed
[03:36] <hatch789> I have a botched upgrade to 16.04
[03:36] <hatch789> due to lack of room in /boot directory
[03:36] <reisio> hatch789: ah
[03:36] <reisio> next time don't put /boot on its own partition
[03:39] <Turiya> oh joy, mdadm.conf isnt in /etc/mdadm/, its in /etc/
[03:40] <EventHorizon> how do I delete a line in visudoers????
[03:41] <reisio> EventHorizon: 'dd'
[03:41] <hatch789> Bashing-om: is it because you have a . in before the * in this command: apt purge linux-{headers,image}-3.13.0-{45,46,48,49,51,52,54,88,93,95,98,100,106}.*
[03:41] <hatch789> I think things are not matching the mask
[03:42] <jowatextra> reisio not a theme literally move the widgets
[03:42] <EventHorizon> life saver!!!!  Thankyou.
[03:42] <reisio> jowatextra: you mean literally click and move them
[03:42] <jowatextra> like
[03:42] <reisio> jowatextra: I'm not sure I've ever seen an app/facility for that, good hunting
[03:42] <Turiya> hokay. that fixed it...
[03:43] <hatch789> Bashing-om: here's the output of that command: http://pastebin.com/m1iJ7smc
[03:43] <jowatextra> reisio the problem is i don't know how i can do that by myself so i want an app that do that
[03:44] <Turiya> hokay, to fix the /dev/md127 issue I simply do:
[03:44] <Turiya> move /etc/mdadm.conf into /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf and running "sudo update-initramfs -u"
[03:44] <Turiya> that, after a reboot. puts the mdadm device at /dev/md0 where it belongs.
[03:44] <reisio> jowatextra: yup, that's the problem
[03:44] <Turiya> now i can add the device to /etc/fstab.
[03:45] <jowatextra> i'm actually in python i imagine i have to be in something like the C to do that but i don't know the C
[03:47] <reisio> jowatextra: no you can do that with Python
[03:47] <reisio> but you may well have to do much of the work on your own, indeed
[03:48] <jowatextra> but what package can i use ? how ? ;((((((((((((((
[03:48] <jowatextra> snif snif snif
[03:48] <reisio> jowatextra: try moon-buggy
[03:48] <reisio> or lolcat
[03:50] <jowatextra> reisio will you be here tomorrow ?
[03:50] <reisio> in #ubuntu?
[03:50] <jowatextra> yes
[03:50] <reisio> hopefully not, IRC is a place for burying time
[03:50] <jowatextra> xD
[03:51] <jowatextra> bye reisio
[03:52] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Maybe ^ .. run now ' sudo apt purge linux-headers-3.13.0-{45,46,48,49,51,52,54,88,93,95,98,100,106}-generic ; sudo apt purge linux-headers-3.13.0-{45,46,48,49,51,52,54,88,93,95,98,100,106} ; . rest looks good , but we will do some more clean up .
[03:52] <reisio> adios
[03:54] <hatch789> Bashing-om: that worked much better
[03:55] <hatch789> http://pastebin.com/z0NbQysU
[03:56] <hatch789> should i repeat with linux-image and image-extra?
[03:57] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Wont hurt to check and see ^ .
[03:57] <hatch789> did you looka t the last pastebin?
[03:58] <Bashing-om> hatch789: A cursory look to know that the headers were gone .
[03:59] <hatch789> I think I need to do apt remove now right/
[03:59] <hatch789> ?
[04:01] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Yeahm that is chap insurance , go ahead and apt purge the linux-image linux-image-extra files . then we go back to cleanup .
[04:01] <Bashing-om> cheap*
[04:07] <hatch789> ok
[04:07] <hatch789> I had to remove them manually one at a time
[04:07] <hatch789> phwew
[04:07] <reisio> gj
[04:07] <hatch789> http://pastebin.com/2t0qMh28
[04:07] <hatch789> check it out
[04:07] <hatch789> clean
[04:08] <hatch789> Bashing-om: now what do we want to do next?
[04:09] <hatch789> do we want to do the apt -f install again?
[04:11] <benbenben> I'm using 16.04.1 LTS Desktop ISO to install on a new machine with 4 x nvidia GPUs. I've been using the Ubuntu supplied (Additional Restricted) drivers which works fine until I do a dist-upgrade and then next time I boot it goes to emergency mode. Should I be using the graphics-drivers ppa? Get the drivers direct from nVidia?
[04:12] <hatch789> crap I think my tech support Bashing-om fell asleep!
[04:12] <reisio> benbenben: I'm not aware of any "emergency mode" that has to do with graphics hardware
[04:14] <benbenben> reisio: let's assume what I said is true. What is the best way to get nvidia drivers? ppa? Restricted drivers package? nvidia?
[04:15] <hatch789> Bashing-om: are you there?
[04:15] <reisio> nvidia's own drivers? I would follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia first, probably
[04:15] <reisio> you _can_ always get the driver installer from nvidia.com, but I would try that dead last
[04:15] <hatch789> Bashing-om: my dpkg is clean now http://pastebin.com/2t0qMh28
[04:16] <Bashing-om> hatch789: I think next is to make sure the current kernel is fully installed ' sudo apt install --reinstall linux-headers-4.4.0-57 ; sudo apt install --reinstall linux-headers-4.4.0-57-generic ; sudo apt install --reinstall linux-image-4.4.0-57-generic ; sudo apt install --reinstall linux-image-extra-4.4.0-57-generic ; And back then to clean up .
[04:16] <ubuntu> u
[04:18] <hatch789> ok done
[04:19] <hatch789> Bashing-om: now what do you mean back to cleanup?
[04:19] <intpol_> hi
[04:19] <reisio> hi int
[04:19] <hatch789> I feel like I need to do this for the existing kernel 3.13.0-92 also in all 4 instances
[04:20] <Guest52881> how do I install ubuntu studio
[04:21] <hatch789> Bashing-om: but when I try for the current kernel it says it cannot be downloaded
[04:22] <Bashing-om> hatch789: K, now as this is a rlease upgrade , again cheap insurance run ' apt autoremove ; apt-get clean ; apt update l sudo apt upgrade ; apt -f install ; dpkg --configure -a ; dpkg -C ' .
[04:22] <intpol_> when i talk with pretty women ?
[04:23] <nicomachus> intpol_: when you leave this channel.
[04:23] <nicomachus> and go outside.
[04:23] <intpol_> tell me what channel i can choose
[04:23] <hatch789> Bashing-om: ok done
[04:24] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic xenial | hatch789
[04:24] <wafflejock> !ubuntu-studio | Guest52881
[04:24] <hatch789> Bashing-om: here's the output astebin.com/FFkMtHTC
[04:24] <hatch789> Bashing-om: here's the output http://pastebin.com/FFkMtHTC
[04:24] <intpol_> i want vps please tell me when i can buy it
[04:25] <Bashing-om> hatch789: ^^ so what does the system  think this is ? what shows ' lsb-release -a ; cat /etc/issue ' ?
[04:26] <hatch789> wait I think I missed this you want me to run !info linux-image-generic xenial
[04:27] <wafflejock> !list > intpol_
[04:27] <intpol_> ok
[04:28] <hatch789> http://pastebin.com/L5cXmJyu
[04:28] <hatch789> I'm unclear what that last !info command was you posted above
[04:29] <hatch789> ubottu: what were you trying to ask me or tell me to do/
[04:29] <wafflejock> intpol_, see !alis as it describes there to search for relevant channels this one is just for ubuntu support issues
[04:29] <wafflejock> hatch789, Bashing-om was just pointing out a package using ubottu
[04:29] <Bashing-om> hatch789: No that "!info linux-image-generic xenial" was bit to show and verify that the -57 jernel is availabale , do we have a problem ?
[04:29] <intpol_> !alis
[04:30] <Speiros> alis?  Who the Flock is alis?
[04:30] <hatch789> I am not sure at this point it appears I have the new components for the new kernel but my old (fallback) kernel is incomplete
[04:30] <Speiros> Sorry, it just seemed to fit...
[04:30] <hatch789> so if boot fails I'm screwed
[04:31] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Can not hurt to also run apt install --reinstall those 4 for the -92 kernel .
[04:32] <hatch789> Bashing-om: here's my /boot directory: http://termbin.com/4rkz
[04:32] <hatch789> Bashing-om: I tried, it said it could not download them
[04:32] <hatch789> Bashing-om: I think you may have missed some of my pastebin links above
[04:33] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Is this what you ran to clean up /boot ' dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' ?
[04:33] <axisys> !touchscreen
[04:33] <hatch789> no
[04:33] <axisys> !touchpad
[04:34] <hatch789> long ago (hours ago) I was deleting things in /boot manually
[04:34] <hatch789> but at this time when I try to get apt to --reinstall the 92 kernel files it says it can't download them
[04:35] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Yeah .. doh moment .. the -92 kernel is of trusty, you have no access to trusties repo from xenial .
[04:35] <hatch789> yup
[04:36] <hatch789> so I just cross my fingers and hope the new kernel boots?
[04:36] <Bashing-om> jameslloyd[m]: Naw ,, hang on and we install a backup from xenial repo .
[04:40] <stan_man_can> Will a bash script wait for the previous command to finish before moving on?
[04:40] <stan_man_can> aka if i have something like systemctl stop nginx; letsencrypt renew; systemctl start nginx;
[04:41] <stan_man_can> will it wait for the letsencrypt renew to complete before attempting to start nginx again?
[04:41] <reisio> stan_man_can: assuming it isn't some fany daemonizing script, yup
[04:41] <reisio> fancy*
[04:42] <reisio> if the exit status of the preceding command matters to you, though
[04:42] <hatch789> Bashing-om: I also got a warning about my 50unattended-upgrades failing back when the upgrade was taking place. I believe it was due to space. Is that something I can re-run now that we've cleaned things up?
[04:42] <reisio> use && and/or ||, then, and not merely ;
[04:42] <stan_man_can> reisio, thanks
[04:42] <stan_man_can> reisio, they're all just on new lines
[04:43] <stan_man_can> so it's more like
[04:43] <reisio> mmhmmm
[04:43] <stan_man_can> systemctl stop server
[04:43] <stan_man_can> letsencrypt renew
[04:43] <stan_man_can> systemctl start server
[04:46] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Working on installing the -53 kernel for a back up ' apt install linux-headers-4.4.0-53 ; apt install linux-headers-4.4.0-53-generic ; apt install linux-image-4.4.0-53-generic ; apt install linux-image-extra-4.4.0-53-generic ' , Not sure yet what to do 50unattended-upgrades - yet .
[04:47] <hatch789> Bashing-om: so how will my fallback be the 4.4.0-53 if it is currently 3.13.0-92?
[04:48] <hatch789> will we change bash bootloader?
[04:48] <Speiros> I have a question; when installing Ubuntu, and I have the internet on so as to add the updates, does that open me up to security issues?
[04:49] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Once we have all set .. we will manually set the symlink for the backup . ( now that backup might come out to be the -57 kernel !) .
[04:49] <hatch789> ok but either way we'll have both that we can boot to ...right/
[04:49] <hatch789> in case one fails?
[04:50] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Uh Huh, that is the plan .
[04:50] <hatch789> OK looks like I have a successful 53 and 57 kernel now
[04:50] <hatch789> at this point do we need to change my grub (not bash) bootloader?
[04:51] <hatch789> do we need to update-grub?
[04:53] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Ya got it ! .. run ' sudo update-grub ' .
[04:53] <hatch789> Bashing-om: ok that's done. It found 57 and 53
[04:54] <hatch789> Bashing-om: reminder, I'm on a terminal. The real server is FAR away. So if it fails to boot, I won't have access to anything. I may be able to call for KVM support but probably have to wait until tomorrow for that
[04:55] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Let's see what grub thinks ' ls -al /vmlinuz* ; ls -al /initrd.img* ' .
[04:55] <stan_man_can> How can I see why my crontab isn't working?
[04:55] <stan_man_can> I have a job in sudo crontab -e and it "should" output to a log file but it's not
[04:55] <stan_man_can> * * * * * /opt/letsencrypt-renewal.sh >> /var/logs/letsencrypt-renewal.log 2>&1
[04:56] <stan_man_can> if i run it manually it populates the log but in the crontab nothings happening
[04:56] <reisio> stan_man_can: better to tell cron about a shell script alone
[04:56] <reisio> rather than expect cron to be able to interpret things as a shell script
[04:56] <reisio> cron is dumb, it does one job decently, and that job is executing a single thing at a particular time/s
[04:56] <reisio> and that's how cron should be, btw :)
[04:57] <stan_man_can> reisio, so what am I missing?
[04:57] <hatch789> Bashing-om: had to break it into 2 commands: http://termbin.com/afe3
[04:57] <reisio> well first of all you won't want '* * * * *'
[04:57] <reisio> but whatever you do settle on, try 'x x x x x /path/to/script' alone
[04:57] <hatch789> http://termbin.com/rufm
[04:58] <stan_man_can> reisio, I'm just telling it to run every minute for testing sake
[04:58] <reisio> you can put anything in your script, including /opt/letsencrypt-renewal.sh >> /var/logs/letsencrypt-renewal.log 2>&1
[04:58] <Bashing-om> hatch789: As I thought " /vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-57-generic " is now the backup :)
[04:58] <hatch789> so do we need to switch them around somehow?
[05:00] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Well, we could but I would ecpect the next kernel update to fix it for us . // Do we now have operating headroom in /boot ' df -h ' ?
[05:01] <hatch789> Bashing-om: /dev/sda1       236M  128M   96M  58% /boot
[05:02] <hatch789> Bashing-om: so time to reboot this puppy?
[05:04] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Not enough breathing room !
[05:04] <Bashing-om> HardlySeen: Let's see if the package manager will work now ' sudo apt autoremove ' !
[05:05] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Let's see if the package manager will work now ' sudo apt autoremove ' !
[05:05] <hatch789> Bashing-om: apt autoremove did nothing:  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:06] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Shucks . I had hoped would remove that -92 kernel . show ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' .
[05:07] <hatch789> Bashing-om: pastebin won't let me paste anymore
[05:07] <hatch789> says I'm out of my free PASTES
[05:08] <hatch789> I see 92 in there
[05:08] <hatch789> want me to clean it up manually like I did all the others?
[05:08] <hatch789> then autoremove will maybe have something to do?
[05:09] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Well, can not leave that /boot as full as it is . We want to use the package manager to remove the -92 kernel .
[05:10] <hatch789> Bashing-om: ok agreed
[05:10] <hatch789> so do I apt purge linux-image-extra-3.13.0-92-generic
[05:10] <hatch789> and then the image generic
[05:10] <hatch789> and then headers and headers generic for the 92 kernel/
[05:13] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Run ' sudo apt remove linux-headers-3.13.0-92 linux-headers-3.13.0-92-generic linux-image-3.13.0-92-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-92-generic ' .
[05:14] <hatch789> done
[05:15] <hatch789> Bashing-om: it worked, should I do apt purge now?
[05:15] <hatch789> Bashing-om: they are still in the dpkg list as rc
[05:18] <Bashing-om> hatch789: For "rc'" removed but config files remain; I like ' dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' .
[05:20] <hatch789> Bashing-om: ok gone
[05:21] <Bashing-om> hatch789: This is no time for a error as you do not have physical access . Let's pause and consider .
[05:24] <hatch789> Bashing-om: apt update; apt full-upgrade is finding no work
[05:24] <Bashing-om> hatch789: ' dpkg --configure -a ' and ' dpkg -C ' have no outputs ; just a return to prompt, right ?
[05:25] <hatch789> Bashing-om: correct just return to prompt
[05:26] <Bashing-om> hatch789: I can come yp with no reason presently not to try and reboot this puppy . Might be good to have a smoke or a coffee and think it over some more .
[05:27] <hatch789> Bashing-om: I'm falling asleep so I have to do it now
[05:27] <hatch789> if it fails I will have to get KVM support tomorrow I guess
[05:28] <hatch789> Bashing-om: this will boot to the 53 kernel instead of the 57
[05:30] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Yeah , booting -53 as default , with the 57 as the fall back .
[05:30] <hatch789> Bashing-om: ok
[05:31] <hatch789> Bashing-om: issuing restart command now ...
[05:31] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Will put the unattended-upgrade config file on the back burner for the AM .
[05:32] <hatch789> Bashing-om: ok sounds good
[05:33] <hatch789> Bashing-om: hmmm   ...Failed to start reboot.target: Connection timed out
[05:34] <hatch789> it won't reboot
[05:36] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Ouch amd yuk ! I can not think of a reason why not . Can you force it to grub and change to the 57 kernel ?
[05:36] <hatch789> ok false alarm
[05:36] <hatch789> it worked
[05:36] <hatch789> it just was totally silent dropping back to my old shell
[05:36] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Whewwww !
[05:36] <hatch789> I didn't realize it had lost connection to the server it was so silent
[05:36] <hatch789> reboot worked
[05:37] <Bashing-om> hatch789: We done here for the naunce then ?
[05:37] <hatch789> odd ...it booted to the 57 kernel
[05:37] <hatch789> I did issue an update-grub right before rebooting ...so maybe that fixed the order
[05:39] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Would not think so . The boot order will adkust on the next kernel update . but we can manually change it ,  but I am of the mind if it ain't broke do not fix it :)
[05:39] <hatch789> I understand, but it booted to the 57 kernel for some reason
[05:40] <hatch789> just surprised me
[05:40] <hatch789> Bashing-om: thank you for your help sir!
[05:40] <hatch789> that was some ugly stuff
[05:40] <hatch789> if I can increase my /boot area I will try to do that. Then I'd avoid these issues alltogether
[05:41] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Yeah, not expected . ' ls -al /vmlinux* ' shows what ?
[05:42] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Increasing the boot space just prolongs . Developeres are working on that situation and as of 16.10 they have a handle on it :)
[05:43] <hatch789> vmlinuz.old points to 57
[05:43] <hatch789> vmlinuz points to 53
[05:44] <hatch789> so 16.10 will work even with my paltry 150m of space?
[05:44] <sgm091> I need to find a distribution with good support for amdgpu drivers. I see the ubuntu wiki on that is empty. Can you please guide me ?
[05:44] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Then I do not know why you are booting the -57 kernel .. hummm .. good for the AM ?
[05:44] <reisio> hatch789: if you can increase your /boot area, then just move its contents onto / and stop using a separate /boot instead :p
[05:45] <k00k> Ubuntu Server 16.04 LTS V.S. Puppy Linux 6.3 w/ Hiawathia Server Which would be better? The server OS that I'm currently running is the Ubuntu Server 16.04 LTS, but Puppy Linux 6.3 with the Hiawathia Server software seems like an attractive alternative since the server in question only has 512 MB of RAM, with virtual Memory of 1 GB on the disk drive. Would Puppy Linux be helpful?
[05:45] <Bashing-om> hatch789: There is a way now . such that when a mew kernel is installed the old ones are removed . Kinda tired now , but if ya want I see what I can dredge up .
[05:46] <hatch789> Bashing-om: tomorrow
[05:46] <hatch789> Bashing-om: we have done enough for tonight. Thank you very much again!
[05:47] <Bashing-om> hatch789: It's alive : It's alive !
[05:47] <sarkis> hey all - i have headphones that have a usb sound card - ubuntu sound panel is not recognizing it - when i do aplay -l i do see it listed
[05:48] <hatch789> Bashing-om: I'm just so glad it's not dead!!! :)
[05:48] <wafflejock> sarkis, are you able to play to it from aplay? can probably try pavucontrol for some more fine grained control on the audio inputs/outputs
[05:48] <sarkis> anyone have experience with this? i even tried pulse audio panel - no luck ... so far i've tried unmuting everything in alsamixer and pavucontrol
[05:49] <wafflejock> sarkis, try to get it working with alsa/aplay tools first if it doesn't work there won't work with pulseaudio since it relies on alsa, if you can get it working with alsa then can move on to pulse stuff, never used a USB audio headset though
[05:49] <sarkis> wafflejock: for some reason i don't see the headphones as an output on pavucontrol
[05:49] <sarkis> i do see the input (microphone)
[05:50] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Like I said, been to this rodeo before, was fairly sure we could whoop it .
[05:50] <sarkis> i think there is some module i need to load
[05:50] <wafflejock> sarkis, you can try to get device details from lsusb, possibly too but really not sure how to debug those
[05:52] <hatch789> Bashing-om: well thank you. I was very concerned when I realized I had no working kernels
[05:54] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Now ya know the "secret" to a release-upgrade : fully updated and all cleaned up prior to making the jump .
[05:59] <hatch789> Bashing-om: yes definitely
[06:00] <hatch789> Bashing-om: goodnight Bashing!
[06:00] <hatch789> Bashing-om: and once more... thank you very much!
[06:02] <Bashing-om> hatch789: Quite Welcome . Doing these puzzles beats jig saw puzzles :)
[06:05] <hatch789> Bashing-om: lol ...yes I'm sure it does
[06:17] <Zaicran> :)
[06:19] <IANIMATEDYOU> https://www.fiverr.com/nicodaunt/animate-any-picture-you-send-me
[06:21] <digital_ghost>  why am i getting this error "port 22: Connection refused" when using ssh on ubuntu?
[06:21] <reisio> wow
[06:22] <Zaicran> digital_ghost: firewall?  sshd running?
[06:40] <kbob> wrong group? wrong username?
[06:41] <kbob> wrong port?
[06:43] <caliculk> I am having some issues with logwatch, namely that whenever it tries to send an email through postfix - postfix spits out saying that the file is too large. I have already tried to increase the postfix message size limit to 40MB and when that failed. At this point, I just want a functioning logwatch system. Would anyone mind helping me get this setup.
[06:43] <caliculk> If I do "logwatch --mailto email --service http --detail high" it sends fine
[06:45] <yuppie> hello, is there a package i can install to get the Redis perl module?
[06:45] <yuppie> I really dont want to run cpan
[06:45] <reisio> yuppie: ask apt-file
[06:45] <yuppie> reisio syntax?
[06:46] <reisio> sudo apt-get install apt-file; sudo apt-file update (something like that); apt-file search redis
[06:46] <reisio> if you run 'apt-file' it'll say how it has to be initialized
[06:46] <yuppie> update looks like it
[06:48] <yuppie> reisio so how will i know if one of them is the redis perl module?
[06:49] <reisio> yuppie: should be obvious
[06:52] <reisio> not sure Ubuntu has a dedicated package for that'n
[06:54] <digital_ghost> i am trying to install open ssh on ubuntu 13.10 ? I am getting "no installation candidate for open ssh server ?
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> !eol | digital_ghost
[06:55] <yuppie> reisio yeah it was thanks man
[06:56] <reisio> yuppie: oh? Which one was it?
[06:56] <yuppie> libredis-perl
[06:56] <reisio> aha
[06:56] <reisio> weird renaming
[06:56] <reisio> but yeah, pretty obvious looking :)
[06:59] <digital_ghost> ubottu, lotuspychje , but still how do I install openssh-server?
[07:00] <blackstone> why my gonome can't call the applicatios places with the super key?
[07:01] <reisio> blackstone: can if you want it to
[07:04] <blackstone> reisio It works on unity,but when i install the gnome,it could't work
[07:05] <reisio> blackstone: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/413/dash-hotkeys/ etc.
[07:05] <digital_ghost> how to i install packages on an EOL edition of ubuntu?
[07:05] <blackstone> reisio I don't like to use the mouse to call the app out
[07:06] <reisio> digital_ghost: ideally by replacing it with non-EOL
[07:06] <digital_ghost> relsio: i don't want to upgrade my current version of ubuntu
[07:08] <reisio> sure you do
[07:08] <reisio> you just don't want to do it now
[07:08] <reisio> or ever (which is what got you into this situation)
[07:08] <reisio> live & learn
[07:11] <Leicester> What's recovery disk in Windows
[07:11] <Leicester> Or on Linux
[07:11] <reisio> Leicester: hrmm?
[07:11] <Leicester> Hello
[07:11] <reisio> hi
[07:12] <Leicester> Have you made any such disk?
[07:12] <reisio> Leicester: what is it you're trying to accomplish?
[07:13] <Leicester> I  Want to make an image
[07:13] <Leicester> Of existing os
[07:13] <Leicester> So it helps during crash
[07:16] <reisio> Leicester: well, you can just use the live OS you used to install Ubuntu from in that case
[07:20] <blackstone> reisio Have you run a ubuntu on SSD disk?
[07:23] <reisio> blackstone: yeah
[07:24] <blackstone> if could't config well ,will distroy SDD,is't ?
[07:25] <reisio> pardon?
[07:25] <Leicester> I don't have Ubuntu reisio
[07:26] <EriC^^> blackstone: ubuntu supports ssd
[07:26] <EriC^^> !trim | blackstone
[07:29] <ljc> hi, i've just done a fresh install of ubuntu server 16.10 (i386) and don't have a wlan0 interface
[07:29] <blackstone> EriC^^ ubottu thanks
[07:30] <EriC^^> ljc: systemd uses a different naming scheme
[07:30] <ljc> the only interface i have is lo
[07:30] <ljc> er, with `ifconfig -a` i have: ens2, irda0, lo, wls3
[07:31] <ljc> `ping google.com` gives  "name or service not found"
[07:33] <EriC^^> ljc: try wls3
[07:33] <blackstone> my ubuntu wifi often break off
[07:34] <EriC^^> ljc: not too knowledgeable about this stuff, but try configuring wls3 if it looks like the wifi
[07:34] <ljc> ok ill see how it goes
[07:34] <ljc> thanks
[07:34] <EriC^^> no problem
[07:38] <ljc> hm does the ethernet interface need to be enabled too?
[07:38] <ljc> (i'm only planning on using wireless)
[07:38] <EriC^^> no
[07:39] <ljc> didnt think so
[07:39] <reisio> smaht :)
[07:51] <zhangbin> Hello
[08:00] <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
[08:02] <maret> raynold: definitelly!  just got from freezing cold to my warm coffee! :P
[08:08] <maret> anyway I am trying to automatically change mac address on public wifi. I've found macchanger but I want to run it automatically. Ideally having some white list for home wifi. I can only do simple init script where I can turn macchanger on but I ca't add whitelist
[08:18] <BigBawb> Can I get mint help in here or is there a specific channel for that?
[08:18] <ducasse> !mint | BigBawb
[08:18] <BigBawb> thank you
[08:23] <WildPenguin> why the Lubuntu Software Centre is not working properly?
[08:24] <WildPenguin> It doesn't display the names of the packages properly.
[08:25] <WildPenguin> Even after a package has been installed or upgradation is complete, it still shows it yet to be installed.
[08:25] <tatertots> does the symptom occur after a reboot?
[08:26] <WildPenguin> haven't tried that.
[08:26] <WildPenguin> but the GUI doesn't get updated properly.
[08:26] <WildPenguin> I don't know how to describe it.
[08:27] <tatertots> does the symptom occur if you log out and log back into the system?
[08:27] <WildPenguin> But, I hope you understand what I mean.
[08:27] <WildPenguin> let me try once.
[08:29] <Vader> Merry Christmas
[08:29] <WildPenguin> ok. now I can see the icons.
[08:30] <tatertots> good
[08:30] <WildPenguin> But, still it needs to be more responsive.
[08:30] <WildPenguin> the GUI.
[08:31] <BigBawb> when installing for dual boot. Do I need a specific boot partition?
[08:31] <cfhowlett> !dualboot | BigBawb
[08:31] <BigBawb> or do I put the boot loader with the windows one?
[08:31] <WildPenguin> could you suggest the best USB drive formatting utility?
[08:31] <BigBawb> haha nifty
[08:31] <WildPenguin> in Ubuntu?
[08:32] <ducasse> BigBawb: we still don't support mint, like you were told a few minutes ago
[08:38] <[twisti]> there seem to always be two LTS versions, .04 and .10, is one preferrable over the other ?
[08:38] <ducasse> [twisti]: .10 is never lts
[08:38] <[twisti]> oh, i must have misread then
[08:39] <fosslab> hi
[08:39] <[twisti]> my bad, i suppose that answers the question then
[08:39] <ducasse> [twisti]: <even number>.04 is lts
[08:39] <fosslab> where is that notes
[08:39] <[twisti]> hm, shouldnt there be a 16.04 ? its year.month, isnt it ?
[08:40] <ducasse> [twisti]: there is, xenial xerus
[08:40] <ducasse> !xenial
[08:40] <[twisti]> oh, it seems the wiki is not up to date then
[08:40] <[twisti]> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[08:40] <[twisti]> thanks again
[08:50] <drvanon> I am using vsftpd, with FileZilla I can do a quickconnect, but not make a server.
[08:52] <Ben64> drvanon: what does that mean
[08:52] <drvanon> Solved the problem
[08:53] <drvanon> Ben64, I had vsftpd running on a server. I was trying to connect to it by means of sftp, but it was being refused, for I had no private key.
[08:54] <drvanon> The solution was to change the settings to ftp with an impl
[08:54] <drvanon> *implicit tls connection.
[08:54] <Leicester> What's vsftpd?
[08:54] <ducasse> an ftp daemon
[08:56] <Speiros> Can someone give me some information regarding setting up a VPN on ubuntu?  I have a few questions.
[08:56] <cfhowlett> !vpn | Speiros
[08:57] <Speiros> Thanks cfhowlett.  I've got that page opened, but I'm not sure of other information.
[08:58] <Speiros> cfhowlett When I set it up, I don't know all the gateway info, etc.
[08:58] <Speiros> cfhowlett Will I need it?
[08:58] <cfhowlett> Speiros, what instructions did your provider send?
[08:59] <Speiros> cfhowlett The provider isn't mine, I'm just allowed to use it.
[08:59] <Speiros> I have the account name and password.
[08:59] <cfhowlett> Speiros, you need the rest of the info
[09:00] <cfhowlett> should be easy to find from the provider
[09:00] <Speiros> cfhowlett I see. How do I do that?  Contact the acct holder, or is it able to be looked at externally?
[09:00] <bivo> Can't get Nestopia to actually play anything, ran it from a terminal http://pastebin.com/xaCh3Ua7 looks like something about the GLX context, but I'm running an i5 m560 so completely OSS drivers.
[09:01] <cfhowlett> I'd start by going to the provider site and searching for vpn.  typically, you'll be directed a downloadeable .deb which will include setup instructions
[09:02] <Speiros> cfhowlett How does somebody set up a VPN if they use external wifi, such as coffee-shops and the like?
[09:02] <cfhowlett> smart move is to set up the account ahead of time you need to use it.
[09:03] <Speiros> cfhowlett I agree.  This is what I'm doing now.  Still, if I contacted the owner of my internet connection, and got a VPN set up regarding their ISP, it doesn't make sense that I'd be able to use a coffee shop through a VPN.
[09:05] <cfhowlett> Speiros, sure it does.  properly configured the vpn is just another connnections.  but for detailed discussion, see #networking
[09:05] <Speiros> cfhowlett Ok, cheers.
[09:05] <ducasse> that's ##networking, actually
[09:06] <cfhowlett> Speiros, ##networking.   thanks ducasse
[09:06] <Speiros> Ah, okay:)
[09:06] <Speiros>  Thanks
[09:11] <ljc> still having trouble, my wireless interface can't connect to my router
[09:11] <ljc> on a fresh ubuntu server 16.10 install
[09:14] <one808> Hello
[09:15] <one808> 厉害了
[09:15] <one808> 有人么
[09:15] <tomreyn> ljc: give 16.04 LTS a try. LTS is what you usually want on a server.
[09:15] <Ben64> !cn | one808 once again...
[09:16] <tomreyn> ljc: but then you also don't usually have wireless on a server (?!)
[09:17] <ljc> tomreyn: thanks, i'll dl it
[09:17] <ljc> tomreyn: i'm not running a server, just don't want to dl a bunch of stuff i dont use
[09:18] <ljc> including the WM
[09:18] <tomreyn> ljc: i see. another option is to discuss which wireless hardware you have there and look into why and how it doesn't work as expected.
[09:19] <ljc>  /var/log/messages doesn't exist
[09:19] <ljc> not sure why
[09:20] <tomreyn> ljc: it's no longer created by default on ubuntu. look as /var/log/syslog, dmesg -T
[09:20] <tomreyn> *aT
[09:22] <ljc> right
[09:30] <bivo> Trying to get Nestopia to play anything , it crashes on loading a rom, ran it from a terminal http://pastebin.com/xaCh3Ua7 looks like something about the GLX context, but I'm running an i5 m560 so completely OSS drivers.
[09:37] <munkygirl> hello all
[09:38] <setting> Hi All
[09:38] <evertversteeg> Hi
[09:38] <munkygirl> how do you do?
[09:39] <munkygirl> on this glorious of evenings
[09:39] <cfhowlett> munkygirl, ask your ubuntu questions
[09:39] <align_waivers> hey guys - I'm trying to install an ubuntu distro but my computer isnot recognizing the 580 gb of free space that I deleted in windows 7. I can boot from usb and run gparted, but I'm not sure how I sure manually do those partitions during the install. any insights would be greatly welcome thank you!
[09:40] <align_waivers> i already did make a partition for it in windows 7 but its ntfs and so I was trying to delete/ reformat
[09:40] <tomreyn> align_waivers: which ubuntu distribution is it?
[09:40] <munkygirl> dban it then reinstall unless you want a dual boot
[09:40] <align_waivers> well its KXStudio
[09:41] <munkygirl> theres an option upon install to clear all data
[09:41] <align_waivers> I do need dual boot unfortunately
[09:41] <cfhowlett> align_waivers, that is not an ubuntu OS and is not supported here.  go to our OS help options for assistance
[09:41] <tomreyn> align_waivers: hmm never heard of it, i doubt its supported here
[09:41] <munkygirl> wipe it with dban install windows then re do the dual boot with gparted\
[09:41] <munkygirl> yup dban dariks boot and nuke
[09:41] <munkygirl> google it
[09:41] <munkygirl> lol
[09:42] <evertversteeg> I want to set up an ftp server for storing data from a camera (after detection an 30s), any suggestions?
[09:42] <bazhang> munkygirl, thats not helpful at all
[09:42] <munkygirl> how so
[09:42] <bazhang> never say 'google it' here munkygirl
[09:42] <align_waivers> yea i actually like the suggestion
[09:42] <munkygirl> he wants it dual booted the best ways a clean install for both lol
[09:42] <align_waivers> the windows needs to be reinstalled
[09:42] <align_waivers> anyway
[09:42] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | munkygirl
[09:42] <munkygirl> oh dude get out of it lol
[09:43] <align_waivers> do you know how long the dban takes?
[09:43] <bazhang> munkygirl, just dont speak if you cannot actually help
[09:43] <munkygirl> oh wow really so we cant b friendly ...........nice way to help lol
[09:43] <munkygirl> oh dude get out of it loldid help
[09:43] <bazhang> munkygirl, take the excess chatter elsewhere
[09:43] <cfhowlett> align_waivers, again: your OS is not supported here.   ubuntu instructions may or may not work on yoru sstem so ... go to kxstudio for help
[09:44] <earth> it's a support channel. so unrelavent chat is not that helpful, and cluttering for some
[09:45] <munkygirl> for YOU
[09:45] <bazhang> munkygirl, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat NOT here
[09:45] <munkygirl> i just told him how to clean install THE BEST WAY to go about it check the forums sir
[09:45] <earth> ok have it your way
[09:45] <munkygirl> yall need to calm down i just helped him you skids
[09:46] <munkygirl> youre using ubuntu its THEE most user friendly distro , i use kali everyday along with arch and backbox i THINK iknow what im doing thanlks tho
[09:47] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | munkygirl, someone so leet should have no problem following the channel guidelines then.
[09:48] <munkygirl> wow man im helping are you jealous because im quicker i know your guidlines its people seeking to get help and it was also said if you checked back the suggestion was liked dont get mad and be pretentiouis now lol
[09:53] <digital_ghost> how to check if a program is installed using command line?
[09:53] <cfhowlett> dpkg -l | grep packagename
[09:55] <digital_ghost> cfhowlett: what to do to see current version ?
[09:55] <cfhowlett> digital_ghost, apt policy packagename
[09:57] <geirha> that last command answers both questions
[09:59] <digital_ghost> cfhowlett,geirha, what about "--version" argument?
[09:59] <cfhowlett> I learned something today!
[10:00] <ObrienDave> the gods weep ;P
[10:01] <geirha> digital_ghost: many commands take a --version argument to print its own version, sure, but that's not something you can rely on
[10:16] <vrlx> Are there any fast paced games like Doom or Quake that are free to play and mp?
[10:17] <cfhowlett> !games | vrlx,
[10:17] <bazhang> mp?
[10:17] <cfhowlett> multiplayer
[10:17] <bazhang> thanks
[10:17] <vrlx> Hopefully those sites cover indie games too
[10:18] <cfhowlett> !steam | vrlx
[10:18] <ObrienDave> you can look on GetDeb also
[10:18] <ObrienDave> http://www.getdeb.net/welcome/
[10:19] <vrlx> cool
[10:23] <kiengcan9999> I am learning programming by myself, could you give me some advises? I am looking for an course/book to development an app from scratch. (I have basic knowledge on programming, I know python most)
[10:23] <cfhowlett> !programmming | kiengcan9999,
[10:24] <cfhowlett> kiengcan9999, google "programming"
[10:24] <bazhang> ##programming for that kiengcan9999
[10:27] <acresearch> is the ubunut distro the best? or should i use a different one? i am having trouble with 16.10...
[10:27] <ikonia> try it
[10:27] <ikonia> see if you like it
[10:27] <ikonia> people have different ideas about what best is
[10:27] <acresearch> i care about stability
[10:28] <ikonia> pretty much every major distro is stable
[10:28] <ikonia> so you won't find one better/worse than the other
[10:28] <cfhowlett> acresearch, if you care about stability, stick with LTS
[10:28] <ikonia> give it a spin, if you like it, great, if you don't try a different distro, peoples usecases are totally different
[10:37] <blaaab> hello!
[10:37] <tomreyn> hi there
[10:50] <turbo64> how do you make a bootable windows usb in linux
[10:51] <turbo64> dd doesnt work
[10:51] <turbo64> nor does ubuntu's worthless gnome disk utility
[10:53] <fund> I was in discussion with someone
[10:53] <fund> And disconnected Suddenly
[10:53] <fund> Who was that
[10:53] <turbo64> who cares
[10:54] <bazhang> check the logs fund
[10:54] <bazhang> !1984 | fund
[10:54] <bazhang> please be civil here turbo64
[10:55] <nagababu> how to control all systems on same network using server terminal
[10:55] <turbo64> every time i come in here im like a mirage
[10:55] <turbo64> i axe a question and nobody even acknowledges it
[10:55] <turbo64> but i make one smarmy comment and suddenly everyones paying attention
[10:55] <turbo64> eat shit and die
[10:56] <earth> They probably have no idea how to help turbo64. But a quick google give me this https://etcher.io/
[10:56] <bazhang> he left
[10:56] <nagababu> how to control all systems on same network using server terminal
[10:56] <EriC^> nagababu: install openssh-server on them all?
[10:56] <EriC^> nagababu: try #ubuntu-server
[10:56] <fund> I found but doctor left
[10:58] <nagababu> after that what am i supposed to do Eric
[10:58] <EriC^> nagababu: ssh user@host
[10:59] <EriC^> from the server terminal
[10:59] <fund> (fund) Recovery disk=image?
[11:02] <frash> Hello!
[11:04] <frash> I was wondering, what could possibly cause a boot failure such as one that occasionally sends you to the recovery console with a message like "Filesystem check or mount failed. A maintenance shell will now be started."
[11:05] <frash> I've recently updated the bios, but this thing is very annoying and doesn't always occur
[11:06] <frash> another thing I noticed is that upon shutdown, the computer keeps rebooting a couple of times (I can tell by the beep of the buzzer) before it definitely shuts itself down
[11:06] <frash> I'm on Linux Mint 17.3, btw
[11:06] <ikonia> frash: you should use the linux mint support channels then please
[11:08] <frash> I did, but when I asked support with reading my dmesg they told me to ask elsewhere for more competent people, so I thought of this channel which has been helpful in the past :)
[11:08] <ikonia> sorry, we don't support the mint platform here
[11:09] <frash> Still, I think this might be a generic Linux problem, if you had some time to spend with me on my dmesg, I'd be very grateful ;)
[11:10] <bazhang> !mintsupport | frash
[11:10] <bazhang> please go there for support frash
[11:10] <frash> Ok, I will :(
[11:10] <frash> (I'm actually already there)
[11:14] <fund> Anyone has taken Windows backup image file?
[11:14] <fund> How?
[11:14] <ikonia> fund: depends how you want/expect to restore it
[11:15] <fund> Which are possible methods to restore? ikonia
[11:15] <fund> Give me options please to choose from
[11:15] <ikonia> fund: it really depends,
[11:15] <fund> On what?
[11:15] <fund> And how?
[11:15] <ikonia> what are you actually trying to achieve,
[11:15] <ikonia> what is your use case/goal ?
[11:16] <fund> What's image?
[11:16] <ikonia> what is your use case/goal ?
[11:16] <fund> I think it's back up of existing os; correct?
[11:16] <ghost_> anyone else ?
[11:16] <fund> And in case if os crash I can use that image to restore
[11:16] <fund> Isn't it?
[11:16] <ikonia> fund: ok, so you have a working windows install and you want to take a backup up it that can be a restore image too
[11:16] <ikonia> fund: what version of windows is it ?
[11:17] <fund> 8.1
[11:17] <ikonia> fund: ok, so windows 8 has a backup and restore tool built in, that can also give you recovery media and snapshotting,
[11:17] <ikonia> you'll have a better experience using the tool built into windows
[11:17] <fund> Are there any other use case or methods for image?
[11:17] <ikonia> fund: there can be, and the situation around using them yes
[11:18] <fund> I can't find that tool in my windows tablet
[11:18] <ikonia> fund: the guys in the ##windows channel can help you
[11:19] <ikonia> (names, path, options etc etc)
[11:19] <fund> They aer not live and active like you
[11:20] <ikonia> fund: you're not even in the channel
[11:20] <bazhang> fund yes they are
[11:20] <ikonia> so I don't know how you can say they are not live, when you can't see what's going on,
[11:20] <fund> #powershell
[11:20] <earth> some of them probly not online right now, so be patient
[11:23] <atul> hi
[11:24] <aadi> help :(
[11:25] <valbr> hi all :)
[11:25] <valbr> I am looking for an internship by Ubuntu
[11:25] <valbr> is there maybe someone here that can help me with that?
[11:25] <cfhowlett> valbr, internship?  you mean a company internship?
[11:25] <aadi> i had made certain changes that eventually makes my ubuntu slower what can i do to reset ubuntu to default :(
[11:25] <valbr> cfhowlett: yes, by ubuntu or canonical
[11:26] <aadi> please help someone :(
[11:26] <cfhowlett> valbr, ubuntu is a software OS not a company.
[11:26] <valbr> canonical is
[11:26] <cfhowlett> valbr, as for internships, go to the canonical website, not the OS support channel.  best of luck.
[11:26] <valbr> cfhowlett: will do
[11:27] <aadi> no one? :(
[11:27] <EriC^> aadi: what changes did you make?
[11:27] <Vivek> I am facing an issue where I did an apt-get --purge remove gpg*
[11:28] <Vivek> How do I install back the packages that were purged ?
[11:28] <Vivek> It seems apt also was removed.
[11:28] <aadi> @Eric^ i changed umm what happens when the lid is closed to hibernate mode and also i was having issues with wifi
[11:28] <aadi> @EriC^ i changed umm what happens when the lid is closed to hibernate mode and also i was having issues with wifi
[11:28] <cfhowlett> purged packages are purged, Vivek.  seriously doubt you purged apt but it is possible.  sudo apt install packagename
[11:29] <EriC^> Vivek: in the future "apt-get -s purge" shows what it will remove, also avoid using wildcards with apt, it's kind of unpredictable
[11:29] <Vivek> Ok
[11:29] <EriC^> Vivek: grep -A4 "purge.*gpg" /var/log/apt/history.log
[11:29] <aadi> now when i start ubuntu there comes a message pop up indicating system problem program detected and also it stucks when i reboot or shutdown my ubutnu :(
[11:30] <aadi> @EriC^ now when i start ubuntu there comes a message pop up indicating system problem program detected and also it stucks when i reboot or shutdown my ubutnu :(
[11:30] <EriC^> Vivek: that should show you what it removed, you can download your apt version from archive.ubuntu.com and manually install it using dpkg -i /path/to/deb then install the remaining packages using apt
[11:30] <EriC^> Vivek: did it remove apt-get or just apt? try apt-get in the terminal
[11:31] <aadi> EriC^: SIR what to do now? :(
[11:31] <cfhowlett> !patience | aadi
[11:32] <EriC^> aadi: the hibernate option shouldn't be an issue, set it back for now if you want
[11:32] <EriC^> aadi: what did you do regarding the wifi? and also try pressing on details in the system error box and see what program is causing it
[11:33] <Vivek> EriC^: http://pastebin.com/RD7JyjEH
[11:35] <aadi> EriC^: SIR i searched the forums then i  made certain changes  and in the pop taht i was gettigf there was only two options either press cancel or Report!
[11:35] <Vivek> Vivek: apt itself is removed.
[11:36] <Vivek> apt install apt also not working
[11:36] <Vivek> That is what I am getting prompted to do.
[11:36] <WildPenguin> hi...
[11:36] <EriC^> Vivek: is apt-get still installed?
[11:36] <WildPenguin> Vivek, are you from India?
[11:37] <Vivek> EriC^: Nope
[11:37] <Vivek> I am taking backup of /home just in case.
[11:38] <Vivek> Almost done, Data is safe, just want to ensure that I do not have to go through a re-installation :)
[11:38] <Vivek> WildPenguin: Yes, I am from India.
[11:38] <WildPenguin> which OS are you using now?
[11:39] <EriC^> which ubuntu version are you using?
[11:39] <EriC^> Vivek: ^
[11:39] <Vivek> EriC^: Thinking of trying the package manager, but that also will not work if apt is not there...
[11:39] <Vivek> Ubuntu 16.10
[11:39] <EriC^> !info apt
[11:39] <EriC^> version 1.3.3 , is it 64bit?
[11:39] <Vivek> 64 bit
[11:39] <Vivek> yep
[11:41] <WildPenguin> what is the system configuration that is suitable for Ubuntu 16.10?
[11:41] <EriC^> Vivek: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt_1.3.3_amd64.deb
[11:41] <Vivek> WildPenguin: no pms please :)
[11:41] <WildPenguin> Vivek, are you using a laptop or a desktop?
[11:41] <WildPenguin> ok
[11:42] <Vivek> As you can see I am in the middle of resolving an issue.
[11:42] <Vivek> Thanks for understanding.
[11:42] <EriC^> Vivek: then "sudo dpkg -i apt_1.3.3_amd64.deb"
[11:43] <backbox> e
[11:43] <royal_screweup4> hey all!
[11:44] <Vivek> EriC^: Makes sense, Thanks.
[11:44] <EriC^> Vivek: no problem
[11:44] <royal_screweup4> Is there a keyboard shortcut to open the terminal? I don't want to drag cursor all the way to the taskbar every time
[11:47] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:48] <EriC^> Vivek: wget -O- http://pastebin.com/raw/RD7JyjEH | cut -d" " -f2- | sed -e 's/([^()]*)//g' -e 's/,//g' | xargs sudo apt-get -y install
[11:48] <TronFourtyTwo> Hi I am new on freenode
[11:48] <cfhowlett> TronFourtyTwo, welcome.  the topic here is ubuntu support.  chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:49] <TronFourtyTwo> thanks
[11:50] <Vivek> apt depends on gpgv | gpgv2 | gpgv1; however:
[11:50] <Vivek>   Package gpgv is not installed.
[11:50] <Vivek>   Package gpgv2 is not installed.
[11:50] <Vivek>   Package gpgv1 is not installed.
[11:50] <Vivek>  apt depends on ubuntu-keyring; however:
[11:50] <Vivek>   Package ubuntu-keyring is not installed.
[11:50] <xXEoflaOEXx> Vivek, please use pastebin if you want to paste the output.
[11:50] <EriC^> Vivek: which command gave you that?
[11:51] <EriC^> Vivek: guessing the dpkg -i one, hmm
[11:51] <Vivek> yes
[11:51] <Mozammel> Hi, can some one give  me link of  free openVPN configuration file and username & password, before I downloaded somewhere , but now I forget.
[11:52] <Vivek> xXEoflaOEXx: I am aware of pastebin, just that my browser was not opening.
[11:52] <EriC^> Vivek: try dpkg -I apt_1.3.3_amd64.deb
[11:52] <cfhowlett> Mozammel, nope.  you need to the settings from YOUR vpn provider.
[11:52] <Mozammel> no, there is some free VPN
[11:52] <EriC^> Vivek: look at the "Depends" line and paste it here please
[11:52] <cfhowlett> Vivek, you can direct output to paste from command line:    dpkg -l | pastebinit
[11:52] <xXEoflaOEXx> Vivek, OK.
[11:52] <Mozammel> and I did used it before.
[11:53] <cfhowlett> Mozammel, google, my friend.
[11:53] <BluesKaj> !vpn | Mozammel
[11:54] <Vivek> Depends: adduser, gpgv | gpgv2 | gpgv1, ubuntu-keyring, init-system-helpers (>= 1.18~), libapt-pkg5.0 (>= 1.3~rc2), libc6 (>= 2.15), libgcc1 (>= 1:3.0), libstdc++6 (>= 5.2)
[11:54] <Guest45481> hi can someone give me some tips to calibrate my xbox 360 gamepad on ubuntu 16.04 i've some problems with the analouge sticks
[11:55] <EriC^> Vivek: dpkg -l | grep -E "gpg|ubuntu-keyring|init-system|libapt"
[11:56] <EriC^> !info gpgv
[11:56] <Vivek> EriC^: check pm please.
[11:57] <Vivek> My browser is still hanging
[11:57] <Vivek> :(
[11:57] <curly_brace> hello i was wondering why can't i generate  a passwordless ssh on some shell accounts?
[11:57] <curly_brace> using 14.04.5 lts ubuntu, just a shell user here.
[11:58] <curly_brace> configured ssh key on the system but it is failing. i can't seem to  make it passwordless
[11:58] <EriC^> Vivek: dpkg -l | grep -E "gpg|ubuntu-keyring|init-system|libapt" | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:59] <EriC^> Vivek: it'll upload stuff, paste the link it gives you here
[12:00] <Vivek> EriC^: http://termbin.com/tmqy
[12:03] <EriC^> Vivek: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnupg2/gpgv_2.1.15-1ubuntu6_amd64.deb
[12:03] <EriC^> !info gpgv1
[12:03] <EriC^> !info gpgv2
[12:04] <EriC^> !info ubuntu-keyring
[12:06] <EriC^> Vivek: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/ubuntu-keyring/ubuntu-keyring_2016.09.19_all.deb
[12:06] <Vivek> ok
[12:07] <mices> trying to install 32 bit 14.04 on hp netbook, hp mini 210, the wifi adapter is unseen by ubuntu live cd, does this mean hardware problem, if i go to network connections and try to add a wifi connection it asks for ssid bccid stuff like that so i think it should have autodetected all that no?
[12:09] <EriC^> Vivek: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gnupg1/gpgv1_1.4.20-7ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[12:12] <gde33> recently my firefox scroll events trigger at much lower frequency: this is a firefox issue I assume?
[12:15] <gde33> (everything native scrolling works just fine)
[12:16] <stormmmm> hi
[12:17] <Vivek> EriC^: Sucess mate.
[12:17] <simplec> hi
[12:17] <stormmmm> hi would anyone hire me a 41 year old guy then if i pass an LPIC1 exam
[12:17] <EriC^> Vivek: great
[12:17] <Vivek> Thanks
[12:17] <EriC^> Vivek: no problem
[12:17] <cfhowlett> stormmmm, this is not the place to look for work
[12:17] <stormmmm> i mean would companies hire me
[12:18] <stormmmm> even if im already 41 but a linux cert holder
[12:18] <EriC^> stormmmm: if you know your stuff i dont see why not, ask in ##linux the guys there are more knowledgeable about these stuff
[12:18] <cfhowlett> stormmmm, you might be better off asking - oh, I don't know - actual companies?  rather than random internetz?
[12:18] <stormmmm> thanks Eric
[12:18] <EriC^> stormmmm: sure
[12:19] <Vivek> EriC^: Do I need to install any other packages that got purged ?
[12:19] <EriC^> Vivek: yes, run the command i pasted earlier that ends in | xargs sudo apt-get
[12:19] <Vivek> And how do I undo the apt-get --purge gpg*
[12:19] <Vivek> ok
[12:19] <Cust0sLim3n> where can I get the source code of debian installer ?
[12:19] <EriC^> Vivek: wget -O- http://pastebin.com/raw/RD7JyjEH | cut -d" " -f2- | sed -e 's/([^()]*)//g' -e 's/,//g' | xargs sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall
[12:22] <mices> you fuckin scumbags i'm gonna rat someone out for murder
[12:23] <mices> you fuckin scumbags
[12:23] <cfhowlett> !ops | mices
[12:24] <mices> shannon ittah operating a prostitution ring paid for with money stolen from me scott kaplan stalking me on the irc
[12:24] <mices> happy scumbag mother fuckers i hope the fbi's watching and some of you get locked up
[12:24] <eofla> !ops mices for being offtopic and swearing
[12:25] <mices> fat sleezy scumbag whore piece-a-shit miserable bitch stalking me on the irc
[12:25] <mices> you fuckin scumbags i can't wait to get one of you in court
[12:25] <mices> fbi if you're watching locate and arrest these scumbags
[12:26] <mices> you see people quit every time i ask a question
[12:26] <EriC^> mices: are you looking for tom_the_cat?
[12:26] <Vivek> EriC^: pastebin.com/vKYSGg59
[12:26] <cfhowlett> EriC^, please don't engage obvious trolls
[12:26] <digital_ghost> i ssh from my host Ubuntu 16.04 LTS to my Ubuntu server virtual machine (with bridged network) on virtual box. Everything was fine, But afer finishing my work i can't stop the ssh server .I can't stop ssh with "sudo service sshd stop", i also tried "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop".Finally I killed sshd service.
[12:27] <EriC^> cfhowlett: it's fun though
[12:28] <Vivek> EriC^: Did you see the pastebin mate ?
[12:28] <EriC^> Vivek: yes, something isn't right
[12:29] <frash> Where can I see the logs of the last shutdown?
[12:29] <frash> Are they logged at all?
[12:30] <Vivek> EriC^: yea, I know
[12:30] <Vivek> Let me try an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[12:32] <EriC^> !info ubuntu-desktop
[12:32] <tomreyn> digital_ghost: were you looking for assitence there, or did oyu just mean to report it?
[12:33] <EriC^> Vivek: what does "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop" do?
[12:33] <digital_ghost> tomreyn: assistance
[12:34] <tomreyn> digital_ghost: with? stopping the ssh server? if so, what's the output of thesecommands you ran?
[12:34] <Vivek> Unable to locate package ubuntu-desktop
[12:34] <EriC^> Vivek: that's odd
[12:35] <digital_ghost> tomreyn: i didn't get any output. it didn't stop either
[12:35] <EriC^> Vivek: try "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999"
[12:35] <Vivek> ii  qtubuntu-desktop:amd64                          0.63+16.10.20160928.1-0ubuntu1                   amd64        Qt plugins for Ubuntu Platform API (desktop)
[12:35] <tomreyn> digital_ghost: "sudo service sshd stop" produced no output at all?
[12:35] <digital_ghost> tomreyn: nothing
[12:35] <Vivek> That is what dpkg -l | grep ubuntu-desktop shows me
[12:35] <Vivek> Version issue ?
[12:36] <EriC^> Vivek: do you have unity installed
[12:36] <EriC^> ?
[12:36] <digital_ghost> tomreyn: no output at all
[12:36] <Vivek> Yes
[12:36] <EriC^> digital_ghost: try with "ssd" not sshd
[12:36] <EriC^> *ssh
[12:36] <Vivek> http://termbin.com/iz7e
[12:36] <tomreyn> digital_ghost: how did you verify it had not stopped?
[12:37] <tomreyn> digital_ghost: can you still reprodcue this behavior (I assume hti is the case since you're still seeking assistence with it)?
[12:37] <EriC^> Vivek: looks fine, did you run apt-get update?
[12:37] <digital_ghost> Eric^: i tried ssh too. its not working
[12:38] <tomreyn> "sshd" seems to be correct
[12:38] <Vivek> Nope
[12:38] <digital_ghost> tomreyn: I can still access files on my virtual machine after running those commands .
[12:39] <EriC^> tomreyn: i think it's ssh, maybe in newer versions it's not?
[12:39] <Vivek> Doing that now
[12:39] <EriC^> it's ssh here on 16.04 for me
[12:39] <tomreyn> EriC^: 'sshd' works for referencing the openssh server / service on 16.04.1
[12:40] <tomreyn> EriC^: actually either works for me
[12:40] <EriC^> tomreyn: odd for me only ssh works, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23757670/
[12:40] <EriC^> i'm using systemctl though, let me try service
[12:41] <EriC^> nope, same error msg
[12:41] <tomreyn> EriC^: "service" command, not "systemctl"
[12:41] <tomreyn> oh
[12:41] <EriC^> odd
[12:41] <digital_ghost> right know everytime i have to kill the "ssh" service to stop it
[12:42] <Vivek> EriC^: Looks fine update and upgrade
[12:43] <tomreyn> EriC^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23757679/
[12:43] <EriC^> Vivek: what does "apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop" do?
[12:43] <EriC^> tomreyn: openbsd?
[12:44] <tomreyn> EriC^: xubuntu linux 16.04.1 amd64
[12:44] <EriC^> oh i get the same, nevermind xD
[12:44] <tomreyn> EriC^: and yes openssh is the openbsd secure shell server
[12:45] <Vivek> EriC^: http://termbin.com/6c7f
[12:45] <TonyLiu> master to master mysql replication error
[12:45] <TonyLiu> 1236
[12:45] <TonyLiu> can someone help me
[12:45] <ikonia> with what ?
[12:45] <EriC^> Vivek: ok try sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[12:46] <Almoxarife> tomreyn:  execute 'systemctl | grep ssh ' is a 'service' shown?
[12:46] <tomreyn> ssh.service                                                                               loaded active running   OpenBSD Secure Shell server
[12:46] <TonyLiu> I have install we ubuntu 16.04 LTS VM
[12:47] <TonyLiu> Installed MYSQL on both VM
[12:47] <Almoxarife> tomreyn: to stop 'systemctl stop ssh.service'
[12:47] <TonyLiu> connected master t- master
[12:47] <TonyLiu> replication
[12:47] <cfhowlett> TonyLiu, STOP hitting the enter key please
[12:47] <TonyLiu> howeber I am geting 1236 error code
[12:47] <cfhowlett> !details | TonyLiu
[12:48] <ikonia> TonyLiu: it should give more detail than just the error code number
[12:48] <ikonia> TonyLiu: also have you researched what that error cdoe actually means ?
[12:48] <Almoxarife> tomreyn: check after
[12:48] <TonyLiu> fatal error 1236
[12:49] <ikonia> TonyLiu: what does that error code deonte ?
[12:49] <TonyLiu> 1236
[12:49] <ikonia> TonyLiu: thats an error number, what does that number mean ?
[12:50] <TonyLiu> got fatal error 1236 from master when reading data drom binary log
[12:50] <TonyLiu> thats ther error message ikonia
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[12:50] <Vivek> EriC^: It re-installed.
[12:51] <ikonia> TonyLiu: ok, so there is where you should be looking at, the bin log on the master
[12:51] <EriC^> Vivek: ok try the command from earlier
[12:51] <Vivek> Please repost it mate :)
[12:51] <Vivek> Too many commands :)
[12:51] <EriC^> Vivek: wget -O- http://pastebin.com/raw/RD7JyjEH | cut -d" " -f2- | sed -e 's/([^()]*)//g' -e 's/,//g' | xargs sudo apt-get -y install --reinstall
[12:53] <Vivek> EriC^: It's all getting re-installed.
[12:54] <fund> Lxle supports touch?
[12:54] <EriC^> Vivek: ncie
[12:54] <EriC^> *nice
[12:56] <earth> nice oneliner there EriC^
[12:56] <TonyLiu> best option to backup ubuntu
[12:56] <TonyLiu> vm
[12:56] <cfhowlett> fund, lxle is offtopic here as it is not ubuntu.  go to lxle for support and information
[12:56] <TonyLiu> on  windows hyper-v
[12:56] <EriC^> earth: ty
[12:57] <fund> TonyLiu what's hyper
[12:57] <TonyLiu> i m running ubuntu vm on hyper-v
[12:57] <TonyLiu> how to backup
[12:57] <ikonia> TonyLiu: how do you want to back it up
[12:57] <TonyLiu> yes
[12:57] <ikonia> TonyLiu: how do you want to back it up ?
[12:58] <TonyLiu> as a vm
[12:58] <TonyLiu> can i back files as well
[12:58] <ikonia> TonyLiu: so you want to "backup" the whole VM as a unit, or a file system backup
[12:58] <TonyLiu> file system
[12:59] <TonyLiu> ubuntu doent support vss
[12:59] <TonyLiu> so I am unable to backup by windows server backup
 any idea
[12:59] <TonyLiu> ??
[13:00] <akik> TonyLiu: if you want to use windows tools to backup, you can backup the vhd of your vm. on ubuntu side, use the linux tools to do the backup
[13:00] <ikonia> TonyLiu: what file systems do you want to back up ?
[13:01] <TonyLiu> i m runnig apache, mysql database
[13:01] <TonyLiu> that needs to be backed up

[13:01] <ikonia> TonyLiu: ok, so that sounds like first of all the mysql database shouldn't be a file system backup
[13:01] <ikonia> it should be a dump or repliction to a mirror
[13:01] <ikonia> the apache directory - just tar and move off the system, unless you have a backup client/server setup already in place for other hosts
[13:01] <TonyLiu> replication to a mirror
[13:08] <Guest34204> hi
[13:08] <Guest34204> what is ubuntu?
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> !ubuntu
[13:09] <leeyaa> hi guys
[13:09] <Speiros> Guest34204 If you like, D can tell you all about it:)
[13:09] <Speiros> Hi leeyaa
[13:09] <Guest34204> somewhere else playing hearthstone?
[13:09] <leeyaa> starting ubuntu xenial in lxc container does not bring networking devices up automatically. i have to manually start network and resolvconf services
[13:09] <leeyaa> any idea how to fix that ?
[13:10] <leeyaa> works fine in trusty and precise. i think its something to do with systemd
[13:11] <leeyaa> like this https://github.com/lxc/lxc/issues/685
[13:12] <tzmfen> is there way to "suspend" gui via cli ?
[13:12] <tzmfen> and just start it on demand
[13:13] <BluesKaj> which gui?
[13:14] <tomreyn> leeyaa: 15.10 is EOL
[13:15] <leeyaa> tomreyn: sorry ?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> leeyaa, it
[13:15] <cfhowlett> s dead and unsupported
[13:15] <cfhowlett> !eol
[13:15] <tomreyn> leeyaa: sorry i was incorrectly assuming you were the initial bug reporter
[13:15] <leeyaa> im not on 15.10. im trying to start 16.04 in lxc container
[13:15] <leeyaa> it starts fine, but no network or resolvconf services are up
[13:16] <tzmfen> BluesKaj:  just ubuntu desktop
[13:16] <tzmfen> i ran this command:
[13:16] <leeyaa> BluesKaj: hes probably using gnome
[13:16] <tzmfen> sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop
[13:16] <tzmfen> 16.04 lts
[13:17] <BluesKaj> ctl+alt+F1-F6  at the login page
[13:17] <johan`> Hi, I've got an Intel HD-2k integrated GPU on my laptop. I recently upgraded to 16.04 and ever since then I have issues with graphical artifacts and in general poor 3d performance. Textures flicker in and out of view (on games and Chrome) and now I also get black squares on the screen during 3d gaming. What kind of steps can I take to rule out a software issue? I recently tried out using older kernels (I've tried 4.9.0 and 4.4.0 so
[13:17] <johan`> far). Is there a way to rollback drivers or something like that?
[13:17] <tomreyn> leeyaa: do you use network manager or just ip utils to bring it up?
[13:17] <tzmfen> BluesKaj:  ah ok.. and how do i restart it then ?
[13:17] <tzmfen> say i am not rebooting the  box
[13:18] <leeyaa> tomreyn: i attach to the container and run service networking start
[13:18] <tzmfen> just kinda wanna load it up on demand
[13:18] <sgm091> anyone know if you can install amdgpu pro 16.50 on ubntu 16.10 /
[13:18] <tzmfen> and off when i dont
[13:18] <cfhowlett> johan`, purge the bad driver, reinstall the preferred driver.  no rollback options
[13:19] <johan`> cfhowlett: OK, how do I do that? Just go into drivers and uninstall, reinstall?
[13:19] <cfhowlett> eyp
[13:19] <cfhowlett> yep
[13:19] <keevitaja> hello. does mate desktop have good dual monitor support out of the box. like when using laptop with an external monitor as primary?
[13:20] <tomreyn> leeyaa: hmm this doesn't exactly answer it. you could install nm-cli and use it to investigate the network link state / to configure the network interface. or you could edit /etc/network/interfaces and place a configuration there.
[13:20] <johan`> cfhowlett: How do I figure out what gpu driver I'm using?
[13:20] <johan`> lshw -c video
[13:21] <leeyaa> tomreyn: the configuration for network is dhcp. so all configs exist. just network isnt started at boot.
[13:21] <leeyaa> anyway ill figure it out
[13:21] <BluesKaj> tzmfen, start lightdm then login
[13:21] <tomreyn> leeyaa: so you have an auto line for the interface in /etc/network/interfaces?
[13:22] <leeyaa> tomreyn: yeah
[13:22] <tomreyn> and a dhcp line, too
[13:22] <leeyaa> tomreyn: correct
[13:22] <tomreyn> okay, that's what i tired to understand earlier when i asked whether you use NM or ip utils to manage the link
[13:22] <tomreyn> *tried
[13:23] <leeyaa> tomreyn: i think thats nm
[13:23] <tomreyn> it's not ;)
[13:23] <Speiros> When I went to download the latest ubuntu, I was told I should use a mirror...so I'm looking in the mirror, and although it is the same speed, it looks a lot better now:D
[13:23] <tomreyn> leeyaa: you could chekc your syslog to see why dhclient fails to bring it up initially
[13:23] <tomreyn> to configure it, i mean
[13:24] <leeyaa> tomreyn: actually none of the services are up
[13:24] <leeyaa> so its definitely something to do with systemd *not even rsyslog is up*
[13:25] <leeyaa> perhaps my lxc doest not support containers with systemd
[13:25] <tomreyn> could be, i'm not exactly knowledgable with lxc
[13:26] <tomreyn> looking at syslog might help
[13:26] <leeyaa> tomreyn: it wont because rsyslog is not started, so there is nothing there ;p
[13:26] <tomreyn> leeyaa: right, sorry, dmesg -T | less then
[13:28] <tfevan> hi
[13:28] <BluesKaj> leeyaa I use a static setting rather than dhcp without NM, works well like so: iface (ethernetname) inet static
[13:28] <rokkoboz> hi
[13:28] <tfevan> hi rokkoboz
[13:29] <rokkoboz> where are you from
[13:29] <leeyaa> BluesKaj: i tend to manage the network from my dhcp server. also, not having any service up points to a bigger problem ;p
[13:29] <tfevan> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[13:30] <TaucherMK> Hi, I want to create a service with systemd. However if I "systemctl start aquariumdaemon" it just returns and the service is still not running. Here is the aquariumdaemon.service http://pastebin.com/xB40zZWa
[13:30] <tfevan> I am from Bangladesh, you?????
[13:30] <cfhowlett> tfevan, ask your ubuntu question
[13:30] <cfhowlett> tfevan, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here.  thank you.
[13:30] <tzmfen> hmm ok
[13:30] <BluesKaj> leeyaa, ok , manage away, but dhclient is obviously not tnabling
[13:30] <tfevan> ok
[13:30] <tzmfen> now how to enable remote desktop via cli
[13:30] <tzmfen> connected via ssh now
[13:31] <BluesKaj> enabling
[13:31] <tfevan> Ubuntu freezed randomly, I dont know why. where is the bug file located?
[13:32] <tomreyn> tfevan: log files are located in /var/log/
[13:32] <tfevan> in /var/log/ i can find the reason of freezed?
[13:33] <tomreyn> tfevan: you *may* find information there which *may* help you trace the root cause.
[13:34] <tfevan> this is official ubuntu irc channel?
[13:35] <Speiros> Yes tfevan:)
[13:35] <tomreyn> !files | tfevan
[13:35] <keevitaja> does mate have good dual monitor support out of the box?
[13:36] <tomreyn> !dmesg | tfevan
[13:37] <Dragoneye> Ubuntu 16.04.1 continue to baffle me why I cannot install it with UEFI, I got Win8 installed and Trying my best to install but it continually gives me "cannot install package grub-efi-amd64-signed" on /target/  I have read the internet to my eyes bleed.  Is there anything that I have missed? :-)
[13:48] <sam_> <<I have question regarding KDE & XFCE environment on ubuntu 16.04, can anyone respond?>>
[13:48] <cfhowlett> !ask | sam_
[13:50] <sam_> << I have gtx 650ti nvidia graphic card with 375.26 ver driver, experiencing screen tearing on KDE & Xfce>>
[13:52] <zhou_xingyu> hello everyone
[13:52] <Speiros> Nihao
[13:52] <zhou_xingyu> May I ask why I have 75G in my usr/media?
[13:53] <zhou_xingyu> Now my linux has 190G now,but when I run fdisk -l it shows I have 260G of linux
[13:53] <zhou_xingyu> please help me thank you
[13:54] <zhou_xingyu> it's name is 6250D26B17631741
[13:56] <BluesKaj> zhou_xingyu, run lsblk
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> zhou_xingyu  use this page to show it to us    http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[13:56] <sam_>  << I have gtx 650ti nvidia graphic card with 375.26 ver driver, while videoplayback experiencing screen tearing on KDE & Xfce>>
[13:57] <zhou_xingyu> lsblk shows I have 260G of linux
[13:57] <zhou_xingyu> however when I open my computer it shows I have 190g
[13:58] <BluesKaj> zhou_xingyu, pastebin the lsblk output so we can see the list
[13:58] <zhou_xingyu> thank you
[14:00] <zhou_xingyu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23757948/
[14:00] <Dragoneye> Why does new install give me "grub-efi-amd64-signed" on /target/ error?
[14:01] <sam_> << Griphcs driver & videoplayback issue, please respond>>
[14:01] <cfhowlett> !patience | sam_
[14:01] <ikonia> sam_: you need to ask a clear question to the channel, not using this << please respond stuff
[14:01] <BluesKaj> zhou_xingyu,looks normal to me
[14:02] <sam_> @ikonia " << I have gtx 650ti nvidia graphic card with 375.26 ver driver, experiencing screen tearing while video playback on KDE & Xfce>>
[14:02] <lana> How do you install fonts?
[14:02] <lana> What program do you need
[14:02] <zhou_xingyu> BluesKaj: why I have 70G in media?
[14:02] <digital_ghost> what is the command to list all ports that are in use?
[14:02] <l0llip0p> lana: by searching pakages which contains fonts ?
[14:03] <sam_> lana: use synaptic
[14:03] <cfhowlett> bad advice sam
 yes but i want to install from Internet
[14:03] <cfhowlett> synaptic has been deprecated for a LONG time.
[14:03] <earth> you could download fonts (.otf or .ttf) seperately and put them in ~/.fonts folder
 thank you :)
[14:03] <l0llip0p> digital_ghost: maybe not direct answer to your question but I use: netstat -tupan
[14:03] <SchrodingersScat> digital_ghost: netstat?
[14:03] <ikonia> sam_: just ask the channel, not individuals and wait for a response
[14:03] <sam_> cfhowlett: I'm newbie
[14:04] <zhou_xingyu> BluesKaj, I do not do it by myself
[14:04] <l0llip0p> well I have installed into /usr/share/fonts directory but I'm not sure if its works in ubuntu
[14:05] <SchrodingersScat> zhou_xingyu: is that a windows partition? the 70G? "Microsoft basic data" is that like a backup partition?
[14:05] <lana> where can i find the fonts folder?
[14:05] <digital_ghost> lollip0p, SchrodingersScat, i just want to know if my ports 2000 and 2222 are in use or not
[14:05] <earth> fonts folder is in /home/lana/.fonts/
[14:05] <zhou_xingyu> SchrodingersScat, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23757967/
[14:05] <zhou_xingyu> please see that
[14:05] <BluesKaj> zhou_xingyu I don't see your media partition in the list
[14:06] <earth> if it's not in there, create it lana
[14:06] <sam_> create .fonts folder if not present
[14:06] <l0llip0p> digital_ghost: check manual of command netstat and search right arguments for it
[14:06] <zhou_xingyu> BluesKaj, sorry,I paste a new one http://paste.ubuntu.com/23757967/
[14:06] <l0llip0p> digital_ghost: I'm sorry but that is the bet
[14:06] <l0llip0p> *best answer I can give to you :(
[14:06] <zhou_xingyu> sda10   8:10   0    70G  0 part /media/zhou_xingyu/6250D26B17631741
[14:06] <SchrodingersScat> zhou_xingyu: looks like you mounted a windows partition.
[14:07] <zhou_xingyu> no ,it's linux
[14:07] <BluesKaj> zhou_xingyu, why is that a problem?
[14:07] <EriC^> the uuid is ntfs zhou_xingyu
[14:08] <odixon> quit
[14:08] <odixon> disconnect
[14:08] <l0llip0p> odixon: '/quit'
[14:08] <earth> /quit
[14:08] <Amm0n> l0llip0p, SchrodingersScat read: https://dougvitale.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/deprecated-linux-networking-commands-and-their-replacements/
[14:08] <SchrodingersScat> Amm0n: ;(
[14:08] <sam_> nvidia card screen tearing on KDE Xfce
[14:09] <Amm0n> SchrodingersScat, ?
[14:09] <lana> thank u for help!! it worked :)
[14:09] <l0llip0p> Amm0n: thanks! Something new to me
[14:10] <ubuntu060> hi folks! any xmonad fans here?
[14:10] <zhou_xingyu> sorry ,I just resize the windows
[14:10] <EriC^> zhou_xingyu: can you pastebin sudo parted -l
[14:10] <zhou_xingyu> sorry for my wrong question......>..<
[14:10] <EriC^> oh ok, nevermind then :)
[14:10] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | ubuntu060, easier to get help if you ask your real question, what's stopping you from accomplishing what you want at the moment?
[14:10] <zhou_xingyu> new to linux...
[14:11] <zhou_xingyu> Thank you everyone
[14:11] <Speiros> :)
[14:11] <faerel> .yt cool
[14:11] <ubuntu060> ok. the question is how is poss to start different xmonad.hs configs via startx>
[14:13] <freddish> WHy does it take forever to dismount my usb hdds ?.
[14:13] <l0llip0p> ubuntu060: maybe you should ask from #xmonad channel?
[14:13] <EriC^> freddish: if you just wrote a ton of data to them it might take time to sync before it unmounts
[14:13] <Speiros> * thought xmonad was a band...
[14:13] <EriC^> freddish: or maybe they're failing
[14:14] <EriC^> try a smart test
[14:14] <Speiros> Sorry ubuntu060:~
[14:14] <SchrodingersScat> freddish: not sure.  I have some usb drives in an encrypted zfs and it takes a while for it to unmount and shut down.  I figured it was syncing to disk or idk.
[14:14] <freddish> EriC^, no, it can take up to 20 / 30 minutes sometimes. ANd i have tried with manny diffrent hdds. Not big files either.
[14:14] <ubuntu060> lollip0p: and they'll send me back in case of ubuntu installed )))
[14:14] <EriC^> freddish: that's odd
[14:15] <EriC^> freddish: maybe it's a usb controller issue?
[14:15] <Speiros> freddish HOw are you dismounting them?
[14:15] <EriC^> freddish: does "dmesg" mention anything while unmounting or after plugging them in?
[14:15] <ubuntu060> lollip0p: this is general question about startx only, pal
[14:15] <Speiros> Sorry mate EriC^
[14:16] <EriC^> Speiros: for what?
[14:17] <Speiros> ubuntu060 Not sure about what xmonad.hs is personally mate, but someone might know.  The suggestions are meant to help, and I'm sure that suggestion wasn't meant to belittle you :)
[14:17] <Speiros> EriC^ For disrupting the train of thought.
[14:18] <Speiros> ubuntu060 Still, working out problems is highly stressful.
[14:18] <ubuntu437> hello
[14:18] <EriC^> Speiros: no worries, i don't care, the more the merrier
[14:19] <freddish> EriC^, right click dismount :P or press that dismount button next to the hdd.
[14:19] <SchrodingersScat> Speiros: so long as it isn't wrong advice or distracting more eyes on the problem are normally a good thing, mentioned in !pm
[14:19] <Speiros> EriC^ Cheers.
[14:20] <Speiros> SchrodingersScat Yeah, true.  I've been guilty of the first, but the second, I don't think so:)
[14:20] <Speiros> SchrodingersScat  Come to think of it...1 and 2:\
[14:20] <Amm0n> ubuntu060, usually you create the ~/.xmonad directory and the ~/.xmonad/xmonad.hs and should be loaded if you startx.
[14:20] <Amm0n> it*
[14:23] <hatch789> good morning
[14:24] <tfevan> ..
[14:25] <jk_> Sam
[14:25] <Speiros> Hi hatch789.  What's going on?
[14:27] <jk_> tt va bien
[14:38] <LordNelthon> hi, I'm using agnoster theme in oh-my-zsh and there is some vertical unaligned symbols (https://puu.sh/tefgW/7fbf71e17a.png), does anybody know how to fix this?
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[14:46] <AphelionZ> who's dax
[14:46] <klarix> ?
[14:46] <Speiros> Another voice to silence...
[14:46] <wadie> taylor18, I'm more than happy to know this.
[14:47] <klarix> lol indeed :-)
[14:47] <manuelmrtz> poor taylor18
[14:47] <klarix> wasn't sure if this was local coutume :D
[14:47] <k1l> dont mind the troll, he is angry because a freenode staffer banned him.
[14:47] <digital_ghost> taylor18:?
[14:47] <keevitaja> he tries to be funny
[14:47] <digital_ghost> he is 18 i guess
[14:48] <keevitaja> no, he want's to be
[14:48] <BluesKaj> i don't see the point ...what kind of gratification is that supposed give... sick minds
[14:48] <BluesKaj> probly more 13
[14:48] <BluesKaj> like
[14:49] <digital_ghost> or 5
[14:49] <D100> taylor18: ...
[14:50] <digital_ghost> ?
[14:50] <jakst> I'm trying to mount an exfat formatted usb-disk in a headless ubuntu server 14.04, but haven't had much success. Anybody care to assist? It shows up in dmesg and lsusb, but not in fdisk -l or lsblk
[14:51] <Vivek> EriC^: Thanks, my issue is resolved.
[14:51] <EriC^> Vivek: great, you're welcome
[14:53] <mars79> hey guys, I installed ubuntu 16.04.1 with gnome-session-flashback. As a theme I used macbuntu from noobslab.com. I had to execute gsettings set org.gnome.metacity theme MacBuntu-OS-X to get the windows borders right, but one thing is still missing. When right clicking on a folder to see the properties, I'm unable to see the close button, radiance theme works though
[14:54] <mars79> is there a command available to get it back, or the theme is just buggy?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> mars79, most likely a buggy theme
[14:56] <rakib> hello, i have a problem, when i run this command "sudo apt upgrade" after complete reboot my pc & then it say, my system in low graphics mode...... in a blank screen
[14:58] <Dragoneye> rakib: What graphic card do you have?
[14:59] <Dragoneye> lspci
[14:59] <mars79> BluesKaj, thanks
[15:00] <rakib> i don't know, by my motherboard is Gigabyte H81MSV2
[15:00] <rakib> Dragoneye: I think intel
[15:01] <rakib> Dragoneye: i will back in 20 min..... sorry for left
[15:04] <Dragoneye> rakib: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2273800
[15:07] <onla> im having problem with rxvt terminal. I should do some integrity checks etc and they told if I would ask here how to do that and some package ownership things. I dont have /usr/share/terminfo populated, is empty dir. http://sprunge.us/JLKM
[15:07] <onla> im on new clean lubuntu 16.04 install
[15:07] <onla> err.. 16.04.1 lubuntu alternate iso
[15:12] <pavlushka> Dragoneye: could it be due to low disk space as rakib just made an system-package-upgrade which downloaded a lot of data into his root fs I guess?
[15:14] <pavlushka> I meant "sudo apt full-upgrade"
[15:15] <faerel> .help
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> faerel  start with a question
[15:17] <faerel> hi
[15:18] <Dragoneye> pavlushka: usually I have the same problem whenever I upgrade the kernel, I have to install the nVidia driver again.
[15:19] <pavlushka> Dragoneye: but I know that rakib is not using any external/third party graphics card
[15:20] <faerel> how i install word pptx 2016 on ubuntu
[15:20] <pavlushka> Dragoneye: to my knowledge rakib is using Gigabyte built-in graphics.
[15:20] <jatt> faerel: you don't
[15:20] <faerel> we can use PLAY ON LINUX No?
[15:20] <Dragoneye> pavlushka: Then we should ask him of his status on the harddrive ;-)
[15:20] <compdoc> faerel, you dont find Word in the app store?
[15:21] <Dragoneye> pavlushka: Yes, as you can see in the link I provided.
[15:21] <faerel> thanks
[15:21] <jatt> apt install microsoft-word
[15:22] <rakib> graingert:
[15:22] <faerel> yes but play on linux  i find word 2007
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> !info libreoffice | faerel
[15:22] <rakib> Dragoneye: hi....bro
[15:22] <Dragoneye> rakib: bro...
[15:22] <faerel> yes but libre office is not good
[15:22]  * pavlushka laughed a bit
[15:22] <faerel> for write
[15:23] <rakib> Dragoneye:i'm use gigabyte built in graphics card
[15:23] <Dragoneye> Did you read the link?
[15:23] <rakib> what?
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> faerel  i'll inform the LO devs, that their product is not good
[15:23] <faerel> ok i again test libre office thanks for help bye
[15:23] <faerel> ok i again test libre office thanks for help bye and sorry
[15:24] <pavlushka> faerel: you can try wps office as a second option
[15:24] <rakib> i'm using in terminal.... my GUI is not start
[15:24] <Dragoneye> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2273800
[15:24] <faerel> ok
[15:24] <Dragoneye> rakib: ok, so you dont have another comp to read?
[15:24] <graingert> rakib: yo
[15:24] <rakib> sorry.....no
[15:24] <Dragoneye> rakib: ok
[15:25] <graingert> rakib:...?
[15:25] <graingert> rakib: you pinged me
[15:25] <rakib> graingert: sorry this is mistake, but you help me by solving my problem....
[15:26] <onla> I needed to install ncurses-term to get my problem solved
[15:26] <Dragoneye> rakib: when you restart your computer, press left SHIFT and you get the grub menu. there you can press "e" to edit and add "nomodeset" to the end of the line
[15:26] <bones_> Hi people. Could you please help me with the following issue: I have xubuntu 16.04, after suspend it shows me the old time, when I suspended the notebook. What can I do?
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> bones_  that's normal, the clock has to synchronize, simply wait a few seconds
[15:27] <graingert> rakib: oh
[15:27] <bones_> okay, thank you!
[15:27] <rakib> Dragoneye: then.....
[15:28] <Dragoneye> then F10 to continue if I recall correctly
[15:28] <Dragoneye> There is help text  in the bottom
[15:29] <rakib> Dragoneye: ok, i'll try..............now i reboot my pc
[15:30] <pavlushka> rakib: you can try a "sudo apt clean" and then reboot to see if the problem is fixed.
[15:31] <zhou_xingyu> just fix the problrm.thank you everyone.I add 70G to my /home.everything is ok
[15:34] <Speiros> Good work zhou_xingyu
[15:35] <zhou_xingyu> Speiros, thank you.I am a student in china.I just learn linux bymelf.I am so appreciate for the help in the channel.I think I will do my best to help people in the channel too.
[15:35] <Dragoneye> Get error on installing Ubuntu with UEFI system, cannot install grub-efi   how can I correct this?
[15:36] <pavlushka> zhou_xingyu: you are welcome here :)
[15:36] <zhou_xingyu> Dragoneye, do you install by choose the install with windows?
[15:37] <Speiros> zhou_xingyu, That is good:)  Which part of China?
[15:37] <Dragoneye> zhou_xingyu: no, im installing via usb
[15:37] <ubuntu-121423> Hi. I am running kubuntu 16.10 on an lenovo E460 (intel hd520/radeon r7).
[15:37] <zhou_xingyu> Dragoneye, I am also the uefi windows 10
[15:37] <zhou_xingyu> Dragoneye, me too.with usb
[15:37] <ubuntu-121423> I am stuck running openGL 3.0 what are my options to get opengl 4.4 up and running?
[15:37] <Dragoneye> zhou_xingyu: win8.1 and trying to install Ubunut, but get the error
[15:38] <zhou_xingyu> Dragoneye, whant dou you choose in the disk partition
[15:38] <Dragoneye> zhou_xingyu: On the UEFI system the Win8.1 is installed previous, Im booting from USB drive to install Ubuntu, give me error when installing grub-efi
[15:39] <zhou_xingyu> Speiros, Nanjing
[15:39] <Speiros> zhou_xingyu, :)
[15:39] <zhou_xingyu> Dragoneye, please close the secure boot
[15:39] <Dragoneye> zhou_xingyu: Did taht
[15:39] <Dragoneye> zhou_xingyu: Did that
[15:40] <Mozammel> does anybody try to rate a song playing in rhythmbox ? ubuntu 16.10 ; unity
[15:40] <zhou_xingyu> Dragoneye, so strange problem.I am windows 10 and install ubuntu with usb too.and meet no problem
[15:41] <zhou_xingyu> Speiros, what about you?
[15:41] <Dragoneye> zhou_xingyu: There seems to be an issue with Win8.1 as I have read on the net.  But I'm trying to not wipe the harddrive to install Ubuntu first and Win8.1 after :-)
[15:41] <zhou_xingyu> Dragoneye, maybe somebody here can help you ,please be patient
[15:41] <FManTX> why is /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_filesystem.so.1.58.0 not a symbolic link?
[15:41] <rakib> Dragoneye: Hi bro...... "nomodeset" say an invalid value
[15:42] <Speiros> zhou_xingyu, I haven't had any success with it myself; booting from USB, but I'm using 14.4
[15:42] <Dragoneye> rakib: thats strange, I'll look it up.. 1s
[15:42] <kk4ewt> Dragoneye,  and when you reinstall windows it will wipe grub from your hd
[15:42] <rakib> ok
[15:43] <zhou_xingyu> Dragoneye, windows8.1 is a terrible os,bad compalbility
[15:43] <Dragoneye> zhou_xingyu: I know! :-D
[15:43] <pavlos> jakst, did you resolve the external usb issue?
[15:44] <zhou_xingyu> Dragoneye, I install ubuntu16.04 with windows10 and meet no problem.maybe you can try it
[15:44] <jakst> Pavlos: Nope, not yet
[15:44] <Amara> How can I start a systemd service every time after "theserviceA" has finished successfully?
[15:45] <pavlos> jakst, dmesg shows the usb right? can you paste that line
[15:45] <Dragoneye> rakib: When you are in edit mode:   after the line linux /boot/vmlinuz-* ...  and before "quiet splash" you should enter nomodeset
[15:45] <jakst> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/jjMDyFsB/
[15:45] <Dragoneye> and press CTRL-X
[15:46] <Bashing-om> hatch789: status ? I am all fired up and ready to go once more .
[15:46] <jakst> Pavlos: Yeah, here it is
[15:46] <rakib> oops, ok
[15:46] <pavlos> jakst, and fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives you nothing?
[15:47] <thinky> hello
[15:47] <jakst> Well it does, but that's because I have another drive on sdb. The external does not appear in fdisk -l
[15:48] <thinky> how can i RTC real time accuracy test on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[15:48] <Dragoneye> rakib: or try this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-core
[15:48] <Dragoneye> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:48] <jakst> pavlos: I also noticed the usb folder doesn't exist in /lib/modules/3.16.0-77-generic/kernel/drivers. Could that be it?
[15:48] <thinky> it seems i am having problem with BIOS time that doesnt show correct time
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> thinky  bios is not managed by ubuntu
[15:49] <pavlos> jakst, the paste you gave shows usb ... can you update/upgrade to make sure we have a good system?
[15:49] <kiengcan9999> Hi thinky, have you dual boot with windows?
[15:49] <thinky> MonkeyDust: i just wanna test on ubuntu if it fails to test RCT like windows
[15:49] <jakst> You mean just sudo apt-get update/upgrade?
[15:49] <thinky> yes kiengcan9999 i am dual booting
[15:49] <thinky> with windows 10 x64
[15:49] <thinky> i ran a hardware test on windows and it warned about RTC
[15:50] <thinky> i wonder if it is same with ubuntu
[15:50] <thinky> i also checked BIOS time and it shows incorrect time
[15:50] <pavlos> jakst, yes
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> thinky  in a terminal, type    date
[15:50] <thinky> MonkeyDust: it shows correct date and time
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> thinky  if the time is incorrect in bios, it will also be in any OS
[15:50] <jakst> pavlos: yeah, done
[15:50] <Xstasy> Anyone experienced with routing in ubuntu? I dont understand this, paste includes /etc/network/interfaces + output from ip route.
[15:50] <Xstasy> https://hastebin.com/apetadalob.nginx
[15:50] <thinky> MonkeyDust: so what do u think is the issue?
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> thinky  really? odd
[15:51] <thinky> bios doesnt show correct time everytime i check
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> thinky  no clue
[15:51] <kiengcan9999> is windows time correct?
[15:51] <thinky> :/
[15:51] <thinky> no kiengcan9999
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> thinky  then it's a bios issue, not a ubuntu issue
[15:51] <zhou_xingyu> thinky, different time in ubuntu and windows?
[15:51] <thinky> zhou_xingyu: correct time on ubuntu , incorrect time in windows and BIOS
[15:51] <pavlos> jakst, I plugged in a usb to my system, dmesg reports sdb: sdb1 I guess yours does not
[15:52] <zhou_xingyu> thinky, that's easy
[15:52] <rakib> Dragoneye: not fixed.....
[15:52] <thinky> how easy zhou_xingyu ?
[15:52] <Dragoneye> rakib: try this:
[15:52] <Dragoneye> sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-core
[15:52] <Dragoneye> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:52] <zhou_xingyu> thinky, I meet the same problem at the beginning,I solved it
[15:52] <thinky> my laptop is 6 years old
[15:52] <thinky> i had another CMOS battery in hand
[15:52] <thinky> i plugged it
[15:52] <thinky> but problem is still there
[15:53] <zhou_xingyu> thinky, let me find out my history
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> thinky  sounds like your question is not for this channel
[15:53] <thinky> ok zhou_xingyu thx
[15:53] <thinky> MonkeyDust: where can i go?
[15:53] <pavlos> jakst, do oyu know how to use parted or gparted. Maybe you need to create a partition
[15:53] <jakst> pavlos: Solved it. I was missing usb-drivers because it's running in a vm. 'apt-get install linux-generic-lts-utopic' did the trick
[15:53] <pavlos> jakst, good
[15:54] <zhou_xingyu> thinky, sudo timedatectl set-local-rtc 1
[15:55] <zhou_xingyu> thinky, try it and log into your windows and correct you windows time the last time ,it will never happen again
[15:55] <rakib> Dragoneye: ok
[15:55] <thinky> zhou_xingyu: ok
[15:56] <zhou_xingyu> thinky, you are welcome
[15:56] <kiengcan9999> thinky, to more detail on the zhou_zingyu's answer, refer this link: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/time-differences-ubuntu-1604-windows-10/
[15:57] <thinky> zhou_xingyu: i did but nothing happened.. i expected some changes in terminal.
[15:58] <zhou_xingyu> thinky, nothing will show in terminal
[15:58] <zhou_xingyu> thinky, it's common
[15:58] <thinky> oh ok then
[16:00] <thinky> thank you zhou_xingyu i will check windows and bios
[16:00] <thinky> let you know when i am back
[16:01] <rakib> Dragoneye: problem is not solved, in this error box msg is............ your screen, graphics card, input device setting could not be detected correctly, configure these yourself............
[16:03] <Dragoneye> rakib: searching....
[16:03] <thinky> zhou_xingyu: bad news :/
[16:04] <zhou_xingyu> thinky, you should correct your windows time last time
[16:04] <Bashing-om> rakib: What is the hardware and driver ? Pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ' See what tale gets told .
[16:04] <Dragoneye> rakib: what does "lspci | grep VGA"  say?
[16:04] <jk> bonjours
[16:04] <zhou_xingyu> thinky, it will nor correct it automatically,you should change the time to right by yourself
[16:05] <thinky> zhou_xingyu: after sync it shows correct time now
[16:06] <zhou_xingyu> thinky, that's good news
[16:08] <Speiros> zhou_xingyu, Sorry, I was on another channel.  Melbourne:)
[16:09] <zhou_xingyu> Speiros, you are welcome
[16:09] <zhou_xingyu> Speiros, enjoy the linux!
[16:09] <rakib> Dragoneye: intel corporation 4th generation core proccessor family integreted graphics controller (rev 06)
[16:09] <Speiros> zhou_xingyu, Indeed:)  You too!
[16:10] <predator8bit> hello! any ubuntu phone users around? I have some problems with user accounts, I got used to my phone forgetting my ubuntu one after every single update but now I can't even add it back, no matter how many times I tap the buttons in the accounts option it doesn't open a dialog to add any accounts, so I can't add a google one or evernote either
[16:10] <scootergrisen> It seems if i change language in Ubutu to danish i don't get Firefox in danish. I get two 404 errors where it seems to try and get the wrong firfox version translation.
[16:10] <scootergrisen> Are Firefox suppose to be translated if i change language in Ubuntu?
[16:11] <Bashing-om> !touch | predator8bit
[16:11] <predator8bit> thanks
[16:12] <pavlos> scootergrisen, what happens at https://google.dk
[16:12] <Dragoneye> rakib: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[16:12] <scootergrisen> What do you mean what happens?
[16:12] <pavlos> scootergrisen, I see Danish language
[16:13] <scootergrisen> I mean Firefox it self
[16:13] <rakib> Dragoneye: installinf is done
[16:14] <Speiros> There's a link here, but I don't know how helpful scootergrisen  https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/752827
[16:14] <Dragoneye> rakib: try reboot
[16:14] <Speiros> very old link
[16:14] <pavlos> scootergrisen, maybe I did not understand the issue ... Speiros provided a link
[16:15] <rakib> Dragoneye: ok
[16:18] <jlx> hi
[16:19] <Speiros> Hi jlx:)
[16:19] <rakib> Dragoneye: not fixed..............
[16:19] <Dragoneye> rakib: Are you in graphics mode or terminal?
[16:20] <rakib> Dragoneye: terminal
[16:20] <jowatextra> i want a app that for editing the windows like moving and resizing the widgets
[16:21] <jowatextra> *remove the "that"
[16:21] <scootergrisen> Like when i had installed Ubuntu and go to system setting to change language to danish i get two 404 errors of file for Firefox that it was not able to get. Seem like the version it was trying to get was the wrong version
[16:21] <Speiros> lol
[16:21] <Dragoneye> rakib: cat /etc/issue
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> jowatextra  ther's gdevilspie
[16:21] <Speiros> scootergrisen By the information on that link it seems that you need to download both versions of firefox, and can switch one to the other.  I think that's what it's saying.
[16:22] <Speiros> scootergrisen Are you talking about Ubuntu, or the actual mozilla firefox?  Or both, meaning two different issues?
[16:22] <rakib> Dragoneye: it show this, Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l
[16:23] <Dragoneye> rakib: k
[16:23] <scootergrisen> I'm testing Ubuntu to see how well it is translated into my language.
[16:23] <rakib> Dragoneye: k means?
[16:23] <ioria> !info firefox-locale-da
[16:24] <Speiros> scootergrisen Ok.
[16:24] <Dragoneye> rakib: it means OK,  reading further on the web to find a solution for you
[16:24] <merlin_> my pc restarts frequenzly with ubuntu
[16:25] <rakib> Dragoneye: ok
[16:25] <scootergrisen> Are there a way to start the live image in my language?
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> merlin_  make sure the cpu does not overheat
[16:25] <zorro14> ciao
[16:26] <Speiros> ciao:)
[16:26] <zorro14> !list
[16:26] <merlin_> ok thanks
[16:26] <jowatextra> MonkeyDust, i want to literally click and drag the widgets
[16:27] <scootergrisen> Aha if i go to Firefox addons i says the language packs are incompatible
[16:27] <scootergrisen> The language packs are 50.1 but Firefox is version 47.0
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> jowatextra  widgets, as in gdesklets?
[16:28] <ioria> scootergrisen, how come you have 47 ?
[16:28] <scootergrisen> I don't know
[16:29] <ioria> scootergrisen,  apt-cache policy firefox
[16:29] <scootergrisen> I use ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[16:29] <ioria> !info firefox xenial
[16:30] <Dragoneye> rakib: wget http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/individual/driver/xf86-video-intel-2.99.917.tar.gz
[16:30] <ioria> scootergrisen,  ff it's 50.1 for all the versions, can you paste the command output ?
[16:31] <scootergrisen> Says like... installed 47.0 candidate 50.1
[16:31] <ioria> scootergrisen,  you're not upgraded
[16:31] <ioria> scootergrisen,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade  .... see what it says
[16:32] <Dragoneye> rakib: tar xf xf86-video-intel-2.99.917.tar.gz
[16:32] <SzateX> Hi. I have problem. I have Intel HD Audio sound card. And I need to set something like: "Seperate all inputs jack as independent input devices" (option from Windows).
[16:32] <Dragoneye> rakib: cd xf86-video-intel-2.99.917
[16:33] <Dragoneye> rakib: ./configure && make && sudo make install
[16:33] <ikonia> do not do that
[16:33] <ikonia> that is the worst possible think you can do
[16:33] <ikonia> rakib: do not do this
[16:34] <Dragoneye> rakib: listen to ikonia..
[16:34] <Dragoneye> rakib: taken from this: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[16:34] <scootergrisen> Ok but if i have version 47, then should the system setting not get language files for the version instead of getting language files for 50.
[16:34] <ioria> that is a lethal weapon
[16:34] <ikonia> do not blindly install thinks, do not even more blindly type configure and make install
[16:34] <ikonia> things even
[16:35] <Speiros> scootergrisen If your version is lower, it won't be able to accept the files which you need.
[16:35] <Dragoneye> rakib: ikonia will help you furter on installing intel driver ...
[16:35] <ikonia> intel is supported out of the box on ubuntu
[16:35] <ikonia> you shouldn't need to install anything
[16:35] <ioria> scootergrisen,  apt-cache policy firefox-locale-da
[16:35] <Dragoneye> ikonia: tell that to rakib
[16:36] <ikonia> Dragoneye: you're the one telling him to install things and blindly do configure make install
[16:36] <Dragoneye> ikonia: how else are you gonna compile and install open source software on linux?
[16:36] <rakib> ikonia: hello, how can i install that....
[16:37] <ikonia> Dragoneye: a.) why does he need that b.) to compile you do not blindly type configure and make install
[16:37] <ikonia> rakib: why do you want to install that ?
[16:37] <scootergrisen> Says both 50.1 for installed and candidate but im upgrading now so dont know if it changed
[16:37] <Dragoneye> ikonia: blindly?
[16:37] <ikonia> Dragoneye: yes
[16:37] <jowatextra> MonkeyDust, more like in QT4 designer
[16:38] <ioria> scootergrisen,  rule of thunb, please put the nicknmae of the person you're talking to, or your msg will be lost
[16:38] <scootergrisen> Speiros should it not just the correct version? if i have firefox 47 it should get language pack 47 and if i have fireox 50.1 it should get language pack 50.1
[16:38] <Dragoneye> ikonia: no comment
[16:38] <scootergrisen> ok
[16:38] <Speiros> scootergrisen No, it doesn't necessarily work like that.
[16:39] <rakib> ikonia: my system is not starting in gui mode, it say an error,"my system is running in low graphics" mode for that......
[16:39] <Speiros> scootergrisen If they developed the language pack only in version 50, there is no way you will find a version 47
[16:39] <ikonia> rakib: ok - so why do you want to install that package
[16:39] <scootergrisen> Speiros on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/ there are multiple versions
[16:40] <SzateX> EHi. I have problem. I have Intel HD Audio sound card. And I need to set something like: "Seperate all inputs jack as independent input devices" (option from Windows). Because i nned to turn of my buli-in microfone, not from headphones
[16:40] <rakib> for fixed this problm, i get this suggesion from Dragoneye brother......say him
[16:40] <scootergrisen> Speiros but like to sayd before i get two 404 errors the first times i tried to change language in system setting. Like it was trying to find the correct version to start with
[16:40] <ikonia> Dragoneye: what is the actual problem with his current xorg driver ?
[16:41] <lodearit> hello
[16:41] <scootergrisen> Speiros maybe i can find those errors in the logs
[16:42] <Speiros> scootergrisen I see what you mean.
[16:42] <lodearit> Speiros: what is your question
[16:42] <Speiros> scootergrisen Still, why would not upgrading help?
[16:42] <lodearit> although i am new, but can see
[16:42] <Speiros> Hi lodearit.  Not me mate:)
[16:42] <lodearit> how do i install terminus font ?
[16:42] <rakib> ikonia: Dragoneye: it is not installed..............
[16:42] <lodearit> anyone knows?
[16:43] <scootergrisen> Speiros I just want to test Ubuntu and make it work well in my language so people dont have problems
[16:43] <lodearit> which package is it?
[16:43] <Dragoneye> ikonia: I am out!
[16:43] <Speiros> Dragoneye ...
[16:43] <Speiros> Hang on mate.
[16:43] <Dragoneye> :-)
[16:43] <ikonia> Dragoneye: thats fine but whats the actual problem
[16:43] <Speiros> Dragoneye We all have differences of opinion.
[16:44] <ioria> scootergrisen,  you should look for available versions in your repos , not in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool. if you look in repos for ff 47, you won't find it.
[16:44] <Dragoneye> true
[16:44] <ff__> elo
[16:44] <predator8bit> anyone using gpodder? I'm using the appimage version and everything works fine for me but when I tried it on my brothers computer I wasn't able to stream the podcasts, the option to do so was greyed out
[16:44]  * Dragoneye will hang in here ...
[16:44] <Speiros> dragoneye Once the issue is resolved, things will settle.  Ride it out, as your input is valuable.
[16:44] <Speiros> :)
[16:45] <Dragoneye> Sperios: tnx :-)
[16:45] <lodearit> which pkg is for terminus/
[16:45] <scootergrisen> ioria that was just the beginning of the addess that system settings gave me when i changed the language. I got two 404 errors with that addres with files it could not find
[16:45] <ikonia> Dragoneye: you've told him to install something to fix it, so based on that I'm assuming you know what the actual problem is
[16:45] <lodearit> i'd like to use xterm with terminus fonts
[16:45] <ikonia> it would be really helpful if you could share what the problem is to save time
[16:45] <Speiros> scootergrisen Yes, I do see.  To upgrade your firefox though is a button click, under the firefox help and troubleshooting...at least in English.
[16:46] <ioria> scootergrisen,  so also your ff  lang pkg has been updated to 50, but still had 47 installed
[16:46] <Dragoneye> ikonia: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[16:46] <ikonia> Dragoneye: thats a download page
[16:46] <Speiros> lodearit, there is a way to see it, as last upload I had many fonts...
[16:46] <ioria> scootergrisen,  then, you got the error
[16:46] <Dragoneye> ikonia: from  http://www.howtogeek.com/242045/how-to-get-the-latest-nvidia-amd-or-intel-graphics-drivers-on-ubuntu/
[16:46] <ikonia> Dragoneye: I"m asking you what the problem is, you've told him to install something and replace the ubuntu package to fix his problem, you must have an idea what the problem is to make that suggestion
[16:46] <ikonia> Dragoneye: I'm not asking how to get the latest
[16:47] <ikonia> I'm asking why you're suggesting he get the latest
[16:47] <ducasse> lodearit: xfonts-terminus
[16:47] <ikonia> eg: what's wrong with the ubuntu shipped version
[16:47] <Speiros> ah, cool ducasse:)
[16:47] <Speiros> Dragoneye np mate:)
[16:48] <ioria> scootergrisen, another rule of thumb: before install anything , update your system
[16:48] <Dragoneye> ikonia: If you scroll up you'll find the discussion we had and the problem he had. so no need for me to repeat .
[16:48] <lodearit> how to configure xterm terminal?
[16:48] <ikonia> Dragoneye: I saw the problem, but for you to suggest the swap out of drivers, you must have an idea what the problem is
[16:48] <Dragoneye> ikonia: s/had/has/
[16:48] <ikonia> Dragoneye: I didn't see anything in the scroll up suggesting what the problem was
[16:48] <scootergrisen> ioria i did check to upgrade during install but maybe that does not update everything
[16:49] <ducasse> lodearit: http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_configure_xterm
[16:50] <Speiros> rakib> hello, i have a problem, when i run this command "sudo apt upgrade" after complete reboot my pc & then it say, my system in low graphics mode...... in a blank screen
[16:50] <ioria> scootergrisen,  in terminal run the command i gave you (update, full-upgrade) and you'll be likely be fine
[16:50] <Speiros> Sorry, a cut and paste ther for you ikonia:)
[16:50] <ikonia> Speiros: thats the symptoms,
[16:50] <Mozammel> hi, I'm trying to open lollypop after install it from PPA , but  howing error "Lollypop isn't designed to work without an unicode locale. Please fix your system." anyone have any idea ? terminal out put is here http://pastebin.com/pQ9LxLGg and screenshot is here http://picpaste.com/Error_002-RQtoiDMb.png
[16:50] <lana> hi another thing, i always see a red triangle on taskbar saying that my repository information is out of date???
[16:50] <scootergrisen> ioria its upgrading now
[16:50] <Mozammel> using ubuntu 16.10, unity
[16:50] <rakib> ikonia: my problem is, when i start my pc then it show me an error, "The system is runing in low graphics mode" bellow this line "your screen, graphics card, input device could not configure corectly"
[16:50] <ioria> scootergrisen,  ok
[16:50] <ikonia> Speiros: what's the problem - for an upgrade to an external package to be made it must be known that a.) the intel version shipped with ubuntu is the problem b.) what the problem actually is and that the upgrade will fix it
[16:50] <rakib> Speiros: yaah, same problem.....
[16:50] <ikonia> rakib: has anyone told you to look at the logs yet
[16:51] <rakib> no....
[16:51] <Speiros> ikonia There's the information, and it's good that you have another way of drawing the problem out from others by questioning.
[16:51] <ikonia> rakib: no no debugging has been done - you've just been blindly told to upgrade the package to an external version and compile....
[16:51] <ikonia> this is not good
[16:51] <ikonia> rakib: does Xorg actually try to start and fail ?
[16:52] <ikonia> rakib: if so there should be an xorg log in /var/log
[16:52] <heluca> Good afternoon, any ideas what causes all video/audio to play in very slow motion (all applications), Ubuntu 16.04, Intel NUC w/Integrated Intel graphics, HDMI monitor?  Rebooting worked last time, but not today.
[16:52] <ikonia> rakib: reading that log will give us a clue as to what the failure is, and therefore how to resolve it
[16:52] <rakib> ikonia: ok, plz wait
[16:53] <zhou_xingyu> hi ,if I want to mount a 100G to /home/Documents/ can I do it?
[16:53] <ikonia> zhou_xingyu: sure
[16:53] <scootergrisen> Can i start the Ubuntu live image using a specific translation?
[16:53] <zhou_xingyu> ikonia, sudo mount /dev/sda7 /home/Documents/
[16:53] <zhou_xingyu> mount: mount point /home/Documents/ does not exist
[16:53] <ikonia>  /home seems an odd place as it's normally /home/$username
[16:53] <ikonia> zhou_xingyu: right, you need to make the directory to mount it on
[16:54] <zhou_xingyu> thank you
[16:54] <ikonia> zhou_xingyu: /home/Documents will never exist because /home normally contains users home directory, eg: /home/zhou
[16:54] <Dragoneye> rakib: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:54] <zhou_xingyu> ikonia, thank you, I will try it
[16:55] <zhou_xingyu> ikonia, mount: unknown filesystem type 'zfs_member'
[16:55] <zhou_xingyu> I just creat a zfs pool
[16:55] <ikonia> zhou_xingyu: do you have zfs support on your system
[16:55] <zhou_xingyu> It seems something get wrong
[16:55] <zhou_xingyu> yes,I install the zfs,ubuntu16.04
[16:56] <ducasse> zhou_xingyu: zfs filesystems are not mounted with the mount command
[16:56] <ikonia> zhou_xingyu: so you know you don't just "mount"
[16:56] <ikonia> you zfs set
[16:56] <ikonia> and set the mount point
[16:56] <ikonia> and it will automount
[16:56] <akik> groovy
[16:56] <zhou_xingyu> ikonia, can you show me some web or guides?
[16:56] <zhou_xingyu> ikonia, thank you
[16:57] <ikonia> zhou_xingyu: you need to know this sort of basic stuff before using zfs
[16:57] <Speiros> ikonia, It's great to get assistance, but still, how is a person asking to upgrade not equivalent to getting the latest upgrade?
[16:57] <rakib> Dragoneye: this is, (WW) warning , (EE) error, not implemented, (??) unknown
[16:57] <akik> ikonia: does that work the same way in linux?
[16:57] <ikonia> Speiros: they shouldn't
[16:57] <zhou_xingyu> ikonia, thank you,I will google it
[16:57] <ikonia> akik: does what work the same way (sorry - missed the context)
[16:57] <rakib> ikonia: this is, (WW) warning , (EE) error, not implemented, (??) unknown, say Dragoneye
[16:57] <Dragoneye> rakib: no errors in logfile...
[16:57] <akik> ikonia: the zfs set
[16:57] <ikonia> akik: yes,
[16:58] <ikonia> rakib: can you pastebin your log file please
[16:58] <ikonia> lets see what's actually happening
[16:58] <Speiros> Shouldn't get the latest upgrade you mean, or shouldn't help them do it as the problem is something else?
[16:58] <Dragoneye> ikonia: from terminal?
[16:59] <rakib> but it's a large file & i'm in terminal, how i copy paste
[16:59] <ikonia> Dragoneye: pastebinit
[16:59] <zhou_xingyu> ikonia, oh,I find it
[16:59] <Dragoneye> ikonia: not to me, help him ;-)
[16:59] <zhou_xingyu> ikonia, thank you
[17:00] <ikonia> Speiros: shouldn't blindly get the latest upgrade - ubuntu should provide the package if it's "ready" and supported b.) I don't think an upgrade will help yet - but I don't have the context of the problem as it appears no one has done any debugging and just blindly suggested a dangerous upgrade
[17:00] <ikonia> Dragoneye: you asked,
[17:00] <gtozzi> So, I've just upgraded to 16.10 and, as usual, upgrade failed. I am wondering, am i the most unlucky ubuntu user when it's about upgrades, or is it normal for the upgrade to fail?
[17:00] <Dragoneye> ikonia: no comment
[17:01] <ikonia> Dragoneye: then stop commenting with "no comment"
[17:01] <Speiros> ikonia Fair enough.  Dragoneyes suggestion was specifically answering the question, but at the same time, it is better to query the "why"s.
[17:01] <Dragoneye> ikonia: that is my comment
[17:01] <OverCoder> Right
[17:01] <ioria> gtozzi, upgraded from what ? 16.04 ?
[17:01] <rakib> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23758716
[17:01] <ikonia> Dragoneye: ithen stop with it please
[17:01] <OverCoder> so my phone has that MTP over wifi feature
[17:01] <OverCoder> I used to use that on Windows
[17:01] <gtozzi> ioria: yep
[17:02] <ikonia> rakib: ok - so there are problems here
[17:02] <OverCoder> I basically hook my phone to my PC via USB, it authenticates, and then I can access my phone through Wi-Fi as if it was plugged in
[17:02] <ikonia> rakib: a.) you're using kodi ?
[17:02] <OverCoder> what can I do for Ubuntu?
[17:02] <Dragoneye> ikonia: no humor? :-D
[17:02] <ikonia> rakib: lok at the paths in that start up
[17:02] <ikonia> rakib: you're using android as a display setup
[17:02] <ioria> gtozzi,  cat /etc/issue
[17:02] <ikonia> rakib: this isn't ubuntu is it ?
[17:02] <rakib> yes it ubuntu
[17:03] <ikonia> rakib: what device is this
[17:03] <ikonia> rakib: what file am I looking at
[17:03] <ikonia> that is not an xorg startup log
[17:03] <gtozzi> ioria: it says 16.10 now since i've manually fixed the upgrade procedure (more than once)
[17:03] <rakib> ikonia: i'm install Android Studio
[17:04] <ioria> gtozzi,  uname -r ?
[17:04] <rakib> what device means??
[17:04] <ikonia> rakib: what is this log file
[17:04] <gtozzi> ioria: 4.8.0-32
[17:04] <rakib> ikonia: var/log.Xorg.0.log
[17:04] <ioria> gtozzi,  and you can't login or what ?
[17:04] <ikonia> rakib: can you show me the output of "uname -a" please
[17:05] <ikonia> rakib: that is not an xorg log file
[17:05] <gtozzi> ioria: i am fine now. I first had to manually sove a couple of package conflicts, then uninstalla  broken package and finally re-install dkms drivers for my network card.
[17:05] <ioria> gtozzi,  oh, ok then
[17:06] <gtozzi> ioria: i do ont have any issue at the moment, just wondering what other poeple gets when upgrading
[17:06] <ioria> gtozzi,  i had no issues
[17:06] <rexfish25> Hi
[17:07] <gtozzi> ioria: i definitely am unlucky then. damn :D
[17:07] <rexfish25> I have a problem with my Ubuntu installation.
[17:07] <Dragoneye> rakib: sorry for not beeing able to resolve your problem, hope ikonia can :-) Have a great day!
[17:07] <ioria> gtozzi,  check the logs and stuff
[17:07] <rexfish25> It asks me many times to install ttf ms fonts installer
[17:07] <rexfish25> But, it doesn't download
[17:08] <rexfish25> The terminal says that the file was not found when it trys to download it from Source Forge
[17:08] <ioria> gtozzi,  /var/log/dist-upgrade
[17:08] <rakib> ikonia: Linux Saifullah 4.4.0-57-generic #78-ubuntu .............  x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:08] <RonaldsMazitis> I have problem running NFS MW on wine ubuntu 16.04 using updated drivers from https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers
[17:08] <RonaldsMazitis> https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42150
[17:08] <ikonia> rakib: thaen what's this ? Kodi compiled Apr 24 2016 by GCC 4.8.0 for Android ARM 32-bit API level 17 (API level 17)
[17:08] <RonaldsMazitis> wine guys don't know why I have this issue
[17:09] <gtozzi> ioria: lol i have subfolders dating back to 2011 there :D
[17:09] <rakib> Dragoneye: that not a problem, you tried...... :) have a good day.......
[17:09] <ikonia> rakib: the logs you are showing me, do not match the situation you are telling me you are in
[17:09] <ioria> gtozzi,  old user, uh ? :þ
[17:09] <rakib> ikonia: wait, i try again
[17:10] <ioria> gtozzi,  check also df -H   for any space issues
[17:10] <rakib> paste.ubuntu.com/23758901/
[17:10] <rakib> ikonia: paste.ubuntu.com/23758901/
[17:11] <gtozzi> ioria: well, i had a couple of packages trying to overwrite eachother
[17:11] <ioria> gtozzi,  which are ?
[17:11] <gtozzi> ioria: it looks like it has not been logged
[17:11] <ikonia> rakib: ok, looks like the Xorg server is actually starting up, what's erroring is whatever your desktop config is
[17:11] <ikonia> rakib: which looking at your other log file - you have a LOT of miss-configuration
[17:12] <gtozzi> ioria: it only logged the first apt run
[17:12] <gtozzi> ioria: there, i had issues with mysql server dependencies.
[17:12] <ikonia> rakib: I'm guessing you don't actually have a technical problem, based on what you've shown me it looks like you just have a LOT of config problems on your desktop setup
[17:12] <fgdgf> hello to all :)
[17:13] <RonaldsMazitis> https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42150
[17:13] <RonaldsMazitis> I am trying to fix bug in NFSMW with wine, for all manking
[17:13] <RonaldsMazitis> mankind
[17:13] <Speiros> Hi fgdgf
[17:14] <ioria> gtozzi,  if you have any ppa installed, i'd give those a look and  in general read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes
[17:14] <ducasse> !wine | RonaldsMazitis
[17:15] <rakib> ikonia: sorry for left, please say again for me.....
[17:15] <gtozzi> ioria: thanks :)
[17:15] <ioria> gtozzi,  no prob
[17:16] <rakib> ikonia: how can i resolve this issue
[17:17] <rakib> ikonia: hello...........
[17:18] <Speiros> rakib ikonia mentioned you had a few problems on your desktop setup.
[17:18] <Jgamer2040> Hello
[17:18] <pavansa> hi
[17:18] <Jgamer2040> I need help. I am trying to solve this problem for literally like 6 hours.
[17:19] <ducasse> !ask | Jgamer2040
[17:19] <Dragoneye> rakib: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bck; service lightdm restart
[17:19] <ikonia> rakib: you really ned to look at the config of what's being launched
[17:19] <ikonia> rakib: if you look at the actual xorg startup log for xorg, it's actually very clean
[17:19] <linuxnoob92> hey, its me, the guy that couldnt get grub to work. i fixed that problem with boot-repair, but now my grub freezes after some seconds so i cant even switch between ubuntu/windows, is there a known fix for that? ubuntu 16.04.1
[17:19] <ducasse> Dragoneye: why? his xorg is fine.
[17:20] <Dragoneye> ok
[17:20] <Speiros> Jgamer2040 What is the problem?
[17:20] <Jgamer2040> I can't install Ubuntu nor Linux Mint on USB, I get lots of errors, 2 of them being unknown chipset others something saying about USB and a couple of others. After that PC just freezes... Any help?
[17:20] <ikonia> Dragoneye: could you please stop suggesting random things - do the debug and make an educated suggestion please, but stop with just random stuff
[17:20] <Dragoneye> ducasse: tought he was in terminal
[17:21] <ikonia> rakib: can you confirm something for me - when you boot ubuntu, do you get a login screen
[17:21] <rakib> ikonia: no, i can't see login screen
[17:22] <Speiros> Jgamer2040 I personally haven't had success with Ubuntu on USB, so I'm not best to help with this one, but someone will be able to help :)
[17:22] <Dragoneye> rakib: are you still in terminal mode?
[17:22] <ikonia> rakib: ok, so it boots, and then drops back to a login prompt on the shell ?
[17:22] <rakib> Dragoneye: hmmmm, in terminal
[17:22] <Dragoneye> rakib: ok
[17:22] <ioria> Jgamer2040, how did you do the usb stick ? with what software ?
[17:22] <Jgamer2040> Rufus
[17:23] <rakib> ikonia: no after say this error then i press, ctrl+alt+f1 then login
[17:23] <ioria> Jgamer2040, can you get the main menu ? try ubuntu, install ubuntu etc. etc.
[17:23] <ikonia> rakib: so again your logs are not talling up with what you are telling me
[17:23] <Jgamer2040> Yep
[17:23] <ikonia> rakib: earlier on your said your kernel was Linux Saifullah 4.4.0-57-generic #78-ubunt
[17:23] <ikonia> rakib: howeer that log file shows your boot argument to be vmlinuz-4.4.0-31-generic
[17:24] <ioria> Jgamer2040, from there you can check the integrity of the media, if you want ... but what happens when you select 'install ubuntu' ?
[17:24] <ikonia> rakib: your logs don't match what you are telling us
[17:24] <Jgamer2040> Lots of errors.
[17:24] <wiggmpk> How would I go about changing my ecryptfs passphrase setup at first login for an encrypted /home direcotyr?
[17:24] <ioria> Jgamer2040, ok, do you have an nvidia card ?
[17:24] <rakib> ikonia: but i see this.....after uname -a
[17:25] <Dragoneye> ikonia: whats wrong with you? Should'nt we try to solve his issue, or do you have a craving for atacking me?
[17:25] <Jgamer2040> 2x Strix 1070
[17:25] <ioria> wow
[17:25] <ikonia> Dragoneye: not at all, I just would like you to stop having random guesses with no basis, making changes like you are suggesting for no reason can do more damage
[17:25] <ioria> Jgamer2040,  try to disable secure boot
[17:26] <Dragoneye> ikonia: like I find a solution out of the air?
[17:26] <Jgamer2040> I will but could you suggest mobile app for IRC?
[17:26] <ikonia> Dragoneye: yes
[17:26] <Dragoneye> ikonia: nice!
[17:26] <elias_> hello world
[17:26] <ioria> Jgamer2040,  i don't even know if that thing is supported by nouveau
[17:27] <Speiros> *puts head down, gets a cup of tea, comes back, sighs, then gets back into it.
[17:27] <rakib> Dragoneye: /etc/X11/xorg.conf have no file but have a xorg.conf.failsafe file
[17:27] <ikonia> there should be no xorg.conf file
[17:27] <ikonia> unless you've manually created one
[17:27] <Jgamer2040> OK, I have one PC here, and I kinda need a program. And yes, IRC is supported on mobile phones/tablets.
[17:27] <rakib> ikonia: hmmmm
[17:27] <ikonia> hence why "just randomly guessing" at solutions will not help
[17:27] <ioria> Jgamer2040,  yes, it is
[17:28] <rakib> but how i resolve it....plz say
[17:28] <ikonia> rakib: so if you reboot and login to ubuntu, what do you get, do you get a desktop (if you're not doing alt+f1)
[17:28] <efloid> hi i want to set up a VM.  i'm kind of out of touch with what is the lastest, best way to do it.
[17:28]  * Dragoneye hint taken
[17:29] <ioria> Jgamer2040,  you may need nomodeset or nouveau.modeset=0   to proceed
[17:29] <efloid> i have read about kubernentes and docker and _____ ?
[17:29] <Dragoneye> ikonia: if you read the full story he did that.
[17:30] <ikonia> Dragoneye: he did what ?
[17:30] <Jgamer2040> ioria, I am a complete newbie in Linux, I do not know what are you talking about, sadly.
[17:30] <ducasse> !kvm | efloid
[17:30] <rakib> i have not get any login desktop...............after reboot my pc
[17:30] <Dragoneye> ikonia: wait for it....
[17:30] <ikonia> Dragoneye: he did what ?
[17:31] <ikonia> Dragoneye: can you please stop playing silly games, I'm asking you a direct question as you are suggesting you have information that may be of use
[17:31] <ioria> Jgamer2040,  basically you can edit the line that will pass parameters to the kernel... you may have an F6 option at bottom
[17:31] <Dragoneye> ikonia: as the transcript says
[17:31] <Jgamer2040> Wait a minute, please. I am setting up IRC on my tablet.
[17:31] <efloid> ducasse: what about lxd?
[17:32] <ikonia> Dragoneye: clearly I've not seen what you are talking about, or I wouldn't be asking, so could you please clarify
[17:32] <ducasse> efloid: containers, not virtualization
[17:32] <ioria> Jgamer2040,  get to the main menu , press F6 and select 'nomodeset'
[17:32] <scootergrisen> How do i show all installed GUI programs in Ubuntu?
[17:33] <scootergrisen> Without having to type something so show the onces conatining that which i type
[17:33] <Dragoneye> ikonia: you are a strange dude.  As you read in the begining you se what enfolds.
[17:33] <Speiros> Dragoneye ikonia might not have the transcript mate.
[17:33] <rakib> fealing bore...... ikonia Dragoneye
[17:33] <efloid> ducasse: it's not the same?
[17:33] <Speiros> Dragoneye It has settings for how long it is and other factors.
[17:33] <Dragoneye> Sperios: ok
[17:33] <ikonia> Dragoneye: I've clearly not seen what you are referencing, so please, tell me what you're referencing
[17:33] <HexaChop> There we go.
[17:33] <ducasse> efloid: no.
[17:34] <ioria> scootergrisen, only gui apps ?
[17:34] <HexaChop> Could you please remind me of what should I do?
[17:34] <efloid> ducasse: which one is better?  container or vm?
[17:34] <wiggmpk> If I am using an ecryptfs home directory, would my swap partition naturally be encrypted as shown in /etc/fstab?
[17:34] <ducasse> efloid: depends on what you are using it for
[17:35] <scootergrisen> ioria yeah like i click the icon in top left corner to search for apps but i can't seem them untill i type something
[17:35] <Dragoneye> ikonia: ok, did not cover this envelop of history. sorry :-)  We Will se when he recover from his reboot
[17:35] <scootergrisen> ioria but if i type "a" i will only see the once with "a" in them
[17:35] <ioria> scootergrisen, i don't use it but in Ubuntu Software Centre  you can select 'Installed'
[17:35] <lodearit> why i don't have iptables?
[17:36] <scootergrisen> ioria yeah ok. What do you use?
[17:36] <lodearit> in /etc and also iptables.service even though ufw is active
[17:36] <rakib> Dragoneye: what can i do?
[17:36] <lodearit> ?
[17:36] <efloid> ducasse: i want to run a web server in an isolated environment for security on a server.  i also want to run windows in a container for using photoshop.
[17:36] <squinty> scootergrisen, click on icon on left corner -> click on the icon next to the house icon
[17:36] <rakib> ikonia: what can i do?
[17:36] <ioria> scootergrisen,  dpkg -l  (but it lists all pkgs , not only gui) or synaptic
[17:36] <ducasse> efloid: you can't run windows in a container, you need a vm for that
[17:37] <efloid> ducasse: ok
[17:37] <HexaChop> I wonder if you noticed my message.
[17:37] <Speiros> rakib What does it say when you reboot and login?  Do you remember what the message is, or what happens?
[17:37] <efloid> ducasse: what about a lamp stack?  should i run everything in one container?  or separate container for each component?
[17:37] <Speiros> rakib I don't know if you're meant to try it or not, so don't unless someone else promts you to.
[17:38] <scootergrisen> ioria thanks i thought i tried before but maybe it was just slow
[17:38] <Dragoneye> rakib: Do you have data files on the computer you would like to have?
[17:38] <lodearit> ducase do you know my question, what of iptables ?
[17:38] <lodearit> in ubuntu?
[17:38] <rakib> Speiros: i can't get login screen
[17:38] <ioria> scootergrisen,  ok
[17:38] <lodearit> there is no such service?
[17:38] <ducasse> efloid: again, that depends :) you really should read up on these technologies to determine what to use
[17:38] <Speiros> rakib Ok.
[17:38] <Bashing-om> HexaChop: Context ? To whom are you addressing your query ?
[17:38] <efloid> ducasse: also, just kvm from the command-line or is there some nice management software that is recommended?
[17:38] <squinty> scootergrisen,  might also have to click on Installed -> see more results
[17:39] <ducasse> efloid: virt-manager or kimchi
[17:39] <HexaChop> ioria I think.
[17:39] <efloid> ducasse: i will search for setting up lamp stack with containers
[17:39] <squinty> exit
[17:39] <efloid> ducasse: thanks very much!
[17:39] <ioria> HexaChop, me ?
[17:39] <ducasse> efloid: np
[17:39] <rakib> Dragoneye: yaah, i'm reinstall it ..... 5 hour ago
[17:40] <HexaChop> Yeah, we were trying to solve not installing issue?
[17:40] <Dragoneye> rakib: so no  :-)
[17:40] <rakib> Dragoneye: my pendrive is already bootable noww..........
[17:40] <HexaChop> Correct me if I am mistaken, of course.
[17:40] <ioria> HexaChop, ok, nvidia 1070 ?
[17:40] <HexaChop> 2x Strix 1070 NVIDIAs
[17:40] <ioria> HexaChop, yes, F6 and select nomodeset
[17:41] <lasersaber> why do i have a 'core' file in my home directory?
[17:41] <ioria> HexaChop,  after disabling secure boot
[17:41] <HexaChop> Where should I hit f6?
[17:41] <ducasse> lasersaber: something crashed and dumped core
[17:41] <lodearit> is anyone really smart enough to know why there is no iptables.service here ?
[17:41] <lodearit> is anyone really smart enough to know why there is no iptables.service here ?
[17:41] <Speiros> rakib So just a recap...is the no-login screen the problem you asked about, or something else?
[17:41] <ioria> HexaChop,  look at bottom (and please insert the name of the persn you're talinkg to)
[17:41] <lasersaber> ducasse, ok, i can't seem to be able to open the file for inspection
[17:42] <HexaChop> ioria, sure.
[17:42] <rakib> Speiros: no, i ask about my error......
[17:42] <ioria> HexaChop,  do you see F6 ?
[17:42] <lasersaber> the file is 512 mb in size
[17:42] <HexaChop> I am in GRUB, no.
[17:42] <tomreyn> lasersaber: those are binary memory dumps, created when an application crashed. it can be used with a debugger such as gdb and so-called debugging symbols to get a better idea of why a software crashed.
[17:43] <Speiros> rakib Ok.  So you reload your ubuntu, then you go to low-graphics mode with that error message?
[17:43] <tomreyn> lasersaber: it is not meant to be inspected with a text editor
[17:43] <ioria> HexaChop,  do you see at the bottom of the screen ?
[17:43] <lasersaber> tomreyn, ok thanks
[17:43] <rakib> Speiros: how?
[17:43] <Dragoneye> rakib: All my solutions did not work. The last one got stopped by ikonia so i got no more solution to you than reinstall, but after upgrade the problem will reacure.
[17:43] <Speiros> rakib Sorry, I'm asking, not telling.
[17:43] <ducasse> lodearit: there is no iptables.service
[17:43] <tomreyn> lasersaber: since you're probably not going to do the debugging on it, you could as well delete the file
[17:43] <Speiros> rakib That is the problem?
[17:44] <HexaChop> ioria,  no, there os no F6 stating anywhere. I am installing Linux Mint by the way. I dod try Ubuntu before but I don't have it anymore. It should be similar, right?
[17:44] <lasersaber> tomreyn, thanks; i'll just delete it then
[17:44] <rakib> Speiros: sorry, yaah
[17:44] <lodearit> ducasse: thenn how do i use iptables at all?
[17:44] <Speiros> rakib All good mate.
[17:44] <ducasse> lodearit: read the docs?
[17:44] <tomreyn> lasersaber: in case you want to read on this stuff, use the 'man core' command.
[17:44] <ioria> HexaChop,  well, this is the Ubuntu support channel :þ
[17:44] <lodearit> where?
[17:45] <Speiros> Dragoneye What part of the solution were you addressing?
[17:45] <tomreyn> lodearit: man iptables
[17:45] <rakib> Dragoneye: but this software is not installed
[17:45] <HexaChop> Ioria, any Mint support channels?
[17:45] <ioria> HexaChop,  sure
[17:45] <rakib> Speiros: you meen, Ubuntu Mate
[17:45] <ducasse> !mint | HexaChop
[17:45] <tomreyn> !mint | HexaChop
[17:45] <Speiros> rakib lol, yeah mate:)
[17:45] <lodearit> there is no use when there is no such service, but which docs are you talking ducase  i will read them
[17:45] <HexaChop> !mint
[17:46] <ducasse> lodearit: also read the man pages for iptables-save and iptables-restore
[17:46] <ioria> HexaChop,  https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/12
[17:46] <Speiros> rakib Do you actually mean Ubuntu Mate?  Oh, see I don't even know the terminologies of what is used or not.
[17:46] <ducasse> lodearit: of course there is a point, it does not need a .service file
[17:46] <Speiros> rakib I'm from Australia...that's my excuse:D
[17:46] <Speiros> lol
[17:46] <HexaChop> Thanks everybody.
[17:46] <HexaChop> :)
[17:47] <rakib> Speiros: but i like, ubuntu only
[17:47] <lodearit> ducase ok i know them but there is no /etc/iptables ?
[17:47] <ioria> HexaChop,  or  #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[17:47] <ducasse> lodearit: no, there isn't
[17:47] <HexaChop> Thank You once again.
[17:47] <lodearit> then how do i enable iptables on boot , if there is no such service, that's strange
[17:48] <ioria> you're welcome
[17:48] <Speiros> rakib Well, both Dragoneye and ikonia have skills that seem to be addressing your problem, although it seems that the problem isn't clear 100%.
[17:48] <Speiros> What is the difference between Ubuntu and Ubuntu Mate, and is this able to be addressed?
[17:49] <ff__> anyone here is using phone with Hardware Keyboard?
[17:49] <ducasse> Speiros: the desktop environment
[17:49] <rakib> Speiros: nothing, but i have not any updated iso of ubuntu mate
[17:49] <Speiros> ducasse I see.  Does it differ in the perspective of this blank screen opening in Low source mode?
[17:50] <tomreyn> !phone | ff__
[17:50] <ducasse> Speiros: probably not, that sounds like a driver thing.
[17:50] <Speiros> ducasse Ok, thanks.
[17:51] <Speiros> Dragoneye What part of the issue above were you addressing initially?
[17:51] <tomreyn> ff__: if your question wasn't related to ubuntu phone / tablet / touch, it's OT on this ubuntu support channel, too (but you could discuss it in #ubuntu-offtopic).
[17:51] <ff__> thx, ubottu, I check it
[17:52] <RonaldsMazitis> https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42150
[17:52] <RonaldsMazitis> this is reall issue, somebody must know how to fix that
[17:52] <ducasse> RonaldsMazitis: try #winehq
[17:53] <RonaldsMazitis> ducasse: they don't know
[17:53] <Preguntator> hello, i am using ubuntu 16.04 with a gps garmin device. everything works fine except that i must use it as root.
[17:53] <Preguntator> i had an udev rule in ubuntu 14.04 to use it as a normal user but it does not work in 16.04.
[17:54] <ducasse> RonaldsMazitis: it's a wine issue, so they are the people you need to talk to. this channel does not do wine application support.
[17:54] <rakib> good byee..................
[17:54] <Dragoneye> Speiros: Tried everything the net gave me. The latest solution got stopped.
[17:54] <Amara> How to do I reset a systemd timer?
[17:54] <Preguntator> coulkd anybody guide me? Has something changed in udev or the way of managing devices?
[17:54] <Speiros> Dragoneye Ok, but you were attempting to add the graphics card?
[17:55] <Dragoneye> In the last article there was a solution .
[17:55] <Speiros> Dragoneye, okay, hang on one minute...
[17:56] <Speiros> ikonia What are the risks associated with the graphics card being changed the way that Dragoneye was suggesting?
[17:58] <Dragoneye> Sperios: http://www.howtogeek.com/242045/how-to-get-the-latest-nvidia-amd-or-intel-graphics-drivers-on-ubuntu/
[17:58] <Speiros> Dragoneye Thanks mate:)  I'm just trying to amalgamate all the thoughts, so that there is an amicable solution.
[17:58] <Dragoneye> Speiros: http://www.howtogeek.com/242045/how-to-get-the-latest-nvidia-amd-or-intel-graphics-drivers-on-ubuntu/
[17:59] <Dragoneye> Speiros: ok m8 :-D
[18:01] <Speiros> Going back up the text, I've copied a section of the suggestions where the discrepancy arrived.  Can anybody please look and see if there is any reason this is no good?
[18:01] <Speiros> Dragoneye, are you okay if I paste it?
[18:01] <ikonia> Speiros: the risks are that it will put files in place that conflict with the ubuntu packages, cause problems with the package manager and cause problems with the compatability with kernel upgrades
[18:01] <Speiros> Thanks ikonia:)
[18:01] <Dragoneye> Speiros: np
[18:01] <ikonia> unless you understand the problem and KNOW the problem is with the intel xorg component you should not even be discussing it
[18:02] <ikonia> and so far I'm seeing nothing wrong with with intel component based on the logs and info being shared
[18:02] <Speiros> Okay, cool.  Here's where things were up to.  Let's break it down and see if we can work through it.
[18:02] <Speiros> rakib: tar xf xf86-video-intel-2.99.917.tar.gz
 Hi. I have problem. I have Intel HD Audio sound card. And I need to set something like: "Seperate all inputs jack as independent input devices" (option from Windows).
 rakib: cd xf86-video-intel-2.99.917
[18:02] <Speiros> * dv_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
[18:02] <Speiros> * dv_ (~quassel@62-178-118-86.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) has joined #ubuntu
[18:03] <SzateX> Speiros: ?
[18:03] <ikonia> he's gone anyway
[18:04] <Speiros> Thaks Drone`
[18:04] <Speiros> Thanks I mean.
[18:05] <XxBrothxX> ciao
[18:05] <Alessio> hi
[18:05] <XxBrothxX> hi
[18:06] <Speiros> So rakib.  Dragoneye and ikonia had some good information regarding your problem, and both of them have different views.  It appears there may be more to it than meets the eye, but hopefully we can work through it.
[18:06] <ducasse> Speiros: if you're talking about rakib's problem, he left so it's rather academic now
[18:06] <XxBrothxX> hi
[18:06] <Speiros> ducasse Oh, I didn't realise.
[18:06] <Alessio> what are you talking about?!?!?
[18:06] <Alessio> wtf
[18:08] <UnixUser> hi
[18:08] <Speiros> :)
[18:09] <lodearit> hello
[18:10] <lodearit> shall i use /etc/init/ to see ssh status? or systemctl or update-rc.d ?
[18:10] <UnixUser> selamat malam
[18:10] <lodearit> which are depracated and whicch are best to use
[18:10] <ducasse> lodearit: which ubuntu version?
[18:11] <lodearit> 16.04
[18:11] <ducasse> lodearit: systemctl, then
[18:12] <Speiros> Selamat malam UnixUser Is all good?
[18:12] <lodearit> and which is the second best and compatible/? /etc/init ?
[18:12] <alkisg> service ssh status
[18:13] <lodearit> i think update-rc.d is depracated but not sure.
[18:13] <alkisg> update-rc does  not show the status, it enables/disables services on boot
[18:17] <lodearit> but in the manual it's not mentioned for some reason if it's depracated
[18:19] <fund> I want to use pen drive as old os system image backup and new os bootable drive both; is it possible?
[18:19] <lodearit> http://askubuntu.com/questions/56753/how-do-i-disable-sshd-from-starting-automatically
[18:19] <fund> New--Linux
[18:19] <fund> Old---Windows
[18:19] <lodearit> here /etc/init.d/ssh is mentioned but i see there is no such file or even service?
[18:20] <lodearit> openssh is installed by default on ubuntu
[18:20] <k1l> lodearit: that is a very old howto. ubuntu uses systemd now
[18:20] <lodearit> ok maybe it's openssh-server not openssh
[18:22] <lodearit> how do i list files owned by a package? and which package owns the file X ?
[18:23] <lodearit> say ifconfig is owned by net-tools i think, so how'd apt tell me that
[18:23] <k1l> dpkg -L
[18:23] <arunpyasi> Hello people, can I ask something about tightvncserver ?
[18:23] <ducasse> lodearit: 'dpkg -S /usr/bin/whatever' will tell you the package it belongs to
[18:24] <alkisg> arunpyasi: go ahead
[18:24] <k1l> lodearit: look at /etc/init/
[18:25] <lodearit> k1l for whatt/
[18:25] <k1l> lodearit: you said you want to see the start unit for ssh?
[18:25] <energizer> Is it possible to install an apt package for just one user ?
[18:26] <arunpyasi> alkisg, I needed to deploy multiple servers of tightvncserver and had cloned them but I am having issue, I get connection failed: Too many connection failures.. And I need to restart the servers to make the login work.
[18:26] <lodearit> yeah it's not there
[18:26] <arunpyasi> How can I avoid and fix them ?
[18:27] <Speiros> energizer If you're root, you can download it, but not sure about how to stop other users from using it, or more specifically,how to allow some to and others not to.
[18:27] <alkisg> arunpyasi: I don't know, I'm not using tightvncserver, but wait and see if someone does know.
[18:28] <arunpyasi> alkisg, ok..
[18:28] <arunpyasi> alkisg, do you know if there is tightvncserver irc channel ?
[18:28] <ducasse> !alis | arunpyasi
[18:32] <arunpyasi> ok, there is none I think
[18:33] <aquila> !list
[18:33] <Speiros> energizer, I had a look on the wiki and couldn't find anything specific, but here's a link anyway...coming...
[18:33] <Speiros> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicSecurity?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=permissions&titlesearch=Titles
[18:33] <bivo> Trying to get Nestopia to play anything , it crashes on loading a rom, ran it from a terminal http://pastebin.com/xaCh3Ua7 looks like something about the GLX context, but I'm running an i5 m560 so completely OSS drivers.
[18:34] <basedmars> #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:34] <basedmars> sorry
[18:35] <Speiros> energizer, There seems to be something under the phone app info, but there are a few entries on there.
[18:35] <mrpanda> hello
[18:35] <mrpanda> windows and linux don´t seem to be friends
[18:35] <Speiros> :)
[18:36] <mrpanda> what is proper way for format an usb stick ??
[18:36] <mrpanda> fat 32 should be good for both ?
[18:36] <Speiros> What are you going to use it for mrpanda?
[18:36] <mrpanda> i try to install lubuntu on this pc
[18:36] <mrpanda> i made iso on other laptop with linux
[18:36] <Speiros> I see.  And windows too?
[18:36] <mrpanda> this runs 10
[18:36] <mrpanda> but i prefer ubuntu
[18:37] <Speiros> Yep.  do you want the windows 10 on the USB too?
[18:37] <mrpanda> nope nope
[18:37] <mrpanda> for god sake
[18:37] <mrpanda> 95 was alright :D
[18:37] <Speiros> Ok.:)
[18:37] <zack263> lol
[18:38] <mrpanda> here i try to format windows doesn´t see well
[18:38] <Speiros> I believe the fat32 is good for the USB stick, but for an external HDD I use xt4
[18:38] <mrpanda> xt4
[18:38] <Speiros> Mind you, my advice is outdated by about 8 years...7 maybe.
[18:38] <mrpanda> nstf ?
[18:38] <zack263> i run win10 on hard drive and ZorinOS on a usb
[18:38] <zack263> then i can flip back and forth
[18:38] <Speiros> ntfs?
[18:38] <mrpanda> da
[18:38] <wiggmpk> mrpanda: are you simply just trying to use a USB flash drive with both Ubuntu and Windows?
[18:38] <lodearit> when i do iptables -S from which file does it fetch the data?
[18:39] <Speiros> No, not suitable, from my understanding.  Only for windows.
[18:39] <lodearit> anyone knows
[18:39] <mrpanda> just ubuntu
[18:39] <mrpanda> formatted it with lunix
[18:39] <k1l> mrpanda: the standard for usb pendrives is fat. because that can be used by most OS
[18:39] <mrpanda> tried to install here
[18:39] <mrpanda> but strange things happen.
[18:39] <thereyouare> anyone knows free dnstunnel services ? so I can have free internet ?
[18:39] <mrpanda> ok fat it is :D
[18:39] <wiggmpk> mrpanda: are you trying to run a LiveUSB or just using it to swap files around?
[18:39] <mrpanda> wanna install ubuntu on this pc
[18:39] <mrpanda> with usb stick-iso file
[18:40] <zack263> i got a video.. on showing how to install ubuntu
[18:40] <zack263> if u want it
[18:40] <mrpanda> sure :D
[18:40] <mrpanda> merci
[18:40] <wiggmpk> mrpanda: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[18:40] <zack263> k let me get the link
[18:40] <wiggmpk> mrpanda: should get you going
[18:41] <lasersaber> thereyouare, http://bfy.tw/9Kx5
[18:41] <mrpanda> is true linux don´t need a virus scanner ?
[18:41] <ducasse> !virus | mrpanda
[18:41] <mrpanda> thanks :)
[18:41] <Speiros> mrpanda yes.  You can still install a free firewall that comes with it in the terminal
[18:42] <Speiros> When you get it downloaded onto your computer, it can be enabled by a terminal command.
[18:43] <aquila> xdcc
[18:44] <thereyouare> "Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux", is that what you teach all ubuntu newcomers ?
[18:44] <zack263> How To Install Ubuntu (good part around 14 minutes) although it is an older video its good - https://youtu.be/kL4DG31tgRM
[18:45] <ikonia> you don't really need a video
[18:45] <Sanyam__> HDD or SSHD or SSD for my new Ubuntu Server ?
[18:45] <zack263> although it is an old video i think it gives good insight
[18:45] <ikonia> the process is pretty clear
[18:45] <ikonia> and documented on the wiki
[18:45] <ikonia> !install
[18:46] <mrpanda> :)
[18:46] <Sanyam__> HDD or SSHD or SSD for my new Ubuntu Server ?
[18:46] <mrpanda> i prefer old technique more solid
[18:46] <mrpanda> trusthworty
[18:46] <mrpanda> i think new hd make less sound though
[18:47] <thereyouare> what is SSHD ?
[18:47] <mrpanda> and a bit faster
[18:47] <mrpanda> bye, thanks for info
[18:47] <thereyouare> !free
[18:47] <thereyouare> Sanyam__: what is SSHD ?
[18:47] <lasersaber> !samba
[18:47] <wiggmpk> thereyouare: either a solid state disc of the ssh daemon
[18:48] <wiggmpk> or*
[18:48] <sarkis> hey all - i have headphones that have a usb sound card - ubuntu sound panel is not recognizing it - when i do aplay -l i do see it listed
[18:48] <akik> thereyouare: it's a hdd with a small ssd cache
[18:48] <sarkis> hey all - i'm trying to figure out why usb headphones are not accessible when ubuntu starts up (16.04)... i do see the card when i do cat /proc/asound/cards - there is a 1 [Audio  ]: USB-Audio...
[18:49] <sarkis> oops - sorry, this is Ubuntu 16.10*
[18:49] <sarkis> any ideas on how i can force ubuntu to only use this card from the start? it seems to want to default to the HDMI output - which doesn't have any speakers out
[18:49] <sarkis> i have to unplug/plug in after starting up in order for ubuntu to properly recognize it :(
[18:50] <ceibal> heco
[18:50] <ceibal> exit
[18:50] <thereyouare> USB headphones ? why ? can't you use 3.5mm jack headphones ?
[18:51] <sarkis> it seems like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/769593/16-04-headphones-detected-but-not-switched-on-automatically-after-startup
[18:51] <sarkis> thereyouare: i am about to give up and just do that :D
[18:51] <sarkis> i actually have a nice sound card too
[18:51] <thereyouare> so USB headphones are actually contain soundcard, I didn't know that
[18:52] <ducasse> sarkis: are you using pulseaudio?
[18:52] <sarkis> i am
[18:53] <ducasse> sarkis: try selecting the output with pavucontrol or pasystray. you can also write an asoundrc to set it as alsa default, which will also affect pulse
[19:02] <arunpyasi> hello
[19:03] <arunpyasi> anyone around wanna help with tightvncserver ?
[19:07] <wlan2|2> So I'm having a problem, I try to get into a session on a ubuntu 16.04 I recently upgraded...
[19:07] <wlan2|2> tty works, lightdm seems to start trhe session, wait a moment then restart itself.
[19:09] <Bashing-om> wlan2|2: Upgrade broke a proprietary graphic's driver ? What shows from terminal ' sudo lshw -C display ' .
[19:12] <vrlx> how do I unzip a .tar.xz file?
[19:12] <SpacePenguin> tar -xJvf somefile.tar.xz
[19:13] <vrlx> thanks
[19:13] <SpacePenguin> np
[19:13] <Speiros> SpacePenguin Does it matter where?
[19:13] <Speiros> I've had the same problem in the past.
[19:14] <wlan2|2> basedmars: any easy way to post it from there?
[19:14] <wlan2|2> I don't want to need ssh-server in that machine.
[19:16] <basedmars> I think you have mistaken me with Bashing-om but okay
[19:17] <wlan2|2> basedmars: sorry, autocomplation betrayed me.
[19:17] <HexaChop> Guess who's back!
[19:18] <Speiros> HexaChop They're not doing re-runs of Bonanza again are they?
[19:18] <HexaChop> Bonanza? What in the world is that? Lol
[19:19] <wlan2|2> Bashing-om: It seems to be using the privative 'nvidia' driver, I guerss it's the correct one.
[19:19] <Speiros> HexaChop The Cartwrights?  It's an old western series that used to be on:P
[19:19] <basedmars> adding to his solution, I would suggest running 'sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit'
[19:19] <HexaChop> Speiros, good for you, friend, you know'em. :D
[19:19] <Speiros> lol
[19:20] <Speiros> To be honest, it wasn't a bad show...it was on early in the mornings, about 4 or 5 am
[19:20] <Bashing-om> wlan2|2: basedmars +1 .
[19:21] <wlan2|2> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23759579/
[19:22] <HexaChop> Ii can't get mint to run, maybe ubuntu will work
[19:22] <netkam2>  whats the ncrusses autio player with the visualisations?
[19:24] <Speiros> HexaChop What are you running it on?
[19:25] <tatertots> HexaChop: your symptom follows the hardware, and your symptoms occur across multiple linux distributions.
[19:25] <HexaChop> Haven't tried ubuntu, i mixed things up, I did on my other PC.
[19:25] <netkam2> Speiros: whats the ncrusses autio player with the visualisations?
[19:26] <Speiros> netkam2 I don't know mate.  I just tried a search for ncrusses, but didn't come up with anything, and was going to ask  you if the spelling was correct.
[19:26] <tatertots> HexaChop: hardware>firmware(bios)>OS(operating system)>software
[19:27] <Speiros> netkam2 And do you mean audio player?
[19:27] <HexaChop> Believe you me, my hardware was checked a billion times, it works perfectly. Passes all the tests.
[19:27] <tatertots> HexaChop: your symptoms occur no matter now you switch up the names of the last two, in my previous comment
[19:27] <Bashing-om> wlan2|2: checking, bear with me .
[19:28] <tatertots> HexaChop: HUMAN>hardware>firmware(bios)>OS(operating system)>software
[19:28] <HexaChop> Exactly.
[19:28] <ducasse> Speiros: he means ncurses
[19:29] <Speiros> Ah, okay.
[19:29] <HexaChop> If ubuntu works, please, fix MINT.
[19:30] <tatertots> HexaChop: and in such a case, bouncing back and forth between linux distro chat rooms, is in my opinion not productive. Because in the pseudo flow chart above, the liability and responsibility fall as follows
[19:30] <tatertots> HexaChop: HUMAN>hardware>firmware(bios)>
[19:30] <Bashing-om> wlan2|2: Should have The 340.xx driver for that card . Do you ? please show ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' in a pastebin .
[19:31] <HexaChop> Good for you to be pro at linux, tastertots...
[19:32] <nedstark> distros aren't all configured for all platforms, even microsoft makes the mistake of thinking their OS will run on all legacy systems with thousands of hw and sw configurations.  more theory than fact
[19:32] <HexaChop> If it actually is faulty hardware, man, I will be quite upset rather.
[19:32] <wlan2|2> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23759651/
[19:32] <tatertots> HexaChop: it's only your two hands and whats between your ears, and the support documentation of your hardware manufacture (example: hp,dell,lenovo)
[19:33] <Speiros> netkam2  I'm not sure if this is it or not, but it shows a visualisation, and says it is ncurses:  https://github.com/karlstav/cava
[19:33] <nedstark> i've had to try 4 different distros on some older systems before 1 worked well
[19:33] <HexaChop> It's Asus
[19:33] <wlan2|2> netkam2: Also take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/23759651/
[19:34] <wlan2|2> OH shit
[19:34] <wlan2|2> The one for netkam2 is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_on_Console
[19:34] <Bashing-om> wlan2|2: And we dont not have 340 .. try this ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . reboot to see the effect .
[19:35] <HexaChop> tatertots, who knows, maybe u hate me so much that you want me to break my PC.
[19:36] <nedstark> breaking pc's is the only way to learn
[19:36] <nedstark> will teach you a lot more than taking some class and getting a certification
[19:36] <HexaChop> That is where you're wrong, nedstark.
[19:37] <tatertots> HexaChop: if you have yet to even download and create then subsequently boot a ubuntu livecd/liveusb,
[19:37] <nedstark> HexaChop, its the difference between an appliance user and a real computer hobbyist
[19:37] <Speiros> nedstark It didnt work when I was learning the guitar.  I stopped counting past 19...:D
[19:37] <HexaChop> Tatertots, I already have it.
[19:38] <wlan2|2> HexaChop: then try it.
[19:39] <HexaChop> Trying it already.
[19:39] <netkam2> nedstark: lol i agree 100%
[19:39] <arquebus> hello, Ive been using Ubuntu for 10 years now and there is one problem that has always bothered me about text boxes in Ubuntu, and that is that if you are highlighting something and dragging to the right, the highlight will jump over to left if you dont drag exactly in line with the text box, this happens even in things like the Firefox url address box. Anyone know how I can fix this?
[19:39] <tatertots> HexaChop: and what is the estimated amount of time, measured in minutes, would you estimate it would take you to boot from the ubuntu install medium in which you state you are in possession of?
[19:40] <HexaChop> Exact same errors.
[19:41] <wlan2|2> HexaChop: which are?
[19:41] <HexaChop> Tatertots, it is not working
[19:41] <xangua> !doesntwork
[19:41] <HexaChop> http://m.imgur.com/gallery/9JgUx, wlan2|2
[19:42] <tatertots> HexaChop: have you now been the eye witness, that your symptoms occur across linux distributions? yes or no
[19:42] <HexaChop> tatertots I am not in a court fo these types of questions. And yes.
[19:43] <wlan2|2> HexaChop: er... Nice imgur error page.
[19:43] <k1l> HexaChop: is this a ubutu there in your paste?
[19:43] <rumpler> Hello I am not sure if I am in the right room for this question, but does anyone have much experience here with making bootable clones of lvm partitions? I can wait if you all need to work one issue at a time
[19:44] <HexaChop> Someone said something about nvidia not working with ububtu.
[19:44] <HexaChop> No, Mint, but exact same errors.
[19:44] <tatertots> HexaChop: HUMAN>hardware>firmware(bios)>
[19:44] <k1l> HexaChop: then please see the mint support because they handle kernel, drivers and such differently and solutions for ubuntu setups might not work.
[19:45] <k1l> !mint | HexaChop
[19:45] <basedmars> Does it work on other system before like windows for example HexaChop?
[19:45] <Serdar> hi all
[19:45] <HexaChop> This is now ubuntu i am using
[19:45] <ioria> HexaChop, why don't you boot a 16.10 ubuntu image ? it ships a newer kernel
[19:45] <HexaChop> Yes, basedmars
[19:45] <BluesKaj> HexaChop, don't beleive everything you hear/read...nvidia works fine if you choose the recommended driver
[19:45] <jhutchins> HexaChop: Can you boot to console or rescue mode?
[19:45] <merlin_> my internet under ubuntu is lowly
[19:45] <HexaChop> ioria, how did you know?
[19:45] <nedstark> i'd try xubuntu 16.10 to switch up the kernel drivers and the window manager
[19:46] <wlan2|2> Bashing-om: lots of thanks for that ubuntu-drivers thging. Solved it.
[19:46] <basedmars> You've said that you're using ubuntu now. Am I missing something here HexaChop ?
[19:46] <ioria> HexaChop,  4.8 vs 4.4 in xenial
[19:46] <Serdar> I installed ubuntu recently on my MSI notebook (with lot trouble) but now the X window manager is not showing. I thought this might be an issue with my nvidia driver, and tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/202574/desktop-does-not-show-when-i-installed-nvidia-drivers
[19:46] <HexaChop> Basedmars sorry, trying to install
[19:46] <Serdar> but for some reason it will install some x86 components
[19:47] <jhutchins> HexaChop: What have you tried on that system that does work?
[19:47] <Serdar> I am not sure if this is right, for a 64 bit system
[19:47] <jhutchins> Serdar: What nvidia chipset does lspci show?
[19:47] <HexaChop> Windows multiple versions, jhutchins.
[19:48] <Serdar> jhutchins, GM107M
[19:48] <wlan2|2> Have a nice evening/night/whatever!
[19:48] <Bashing-om> wlan2|2: Wonderful thing is ubuntu :)
[19:48] <ioria> HexaChop,  has said before you have a super-card, and probably need to disable secure boot and nouveau out out of  the way
[19:49] <wlan2|2> Bashing-om: well, I use l9ots of debian and derivatives.
[19:49] <HexaChop> Ioria, Supercard?
[19:49] <jhutchins> serGTX 1050?
[19:49] <wlan2|2> And Ubuntu is the most automagical.
[19:49] <ioria> HexaChop,  1070 right ?
[19:49] <Serdar> no, GTX960m
[19:49] <HexaChop> 2 of them, ASUS strix, yes.
[19:50] <ioria> HexaChop,  right
[19:50] <k1l> HexaChop: then chroot into the install and install the latest nvidia drivers
[19:50] <nedstark> you need a ppa driver for the 960M in 14.04
[19:50] <k1l> HexaChop: but since that is still a mint issue, ask the mint support for details
[19:50] <wlan2|2> Bashing-om: but I sort of thate the sudo craze.
[19:50] <HexaChop> Those are considered supercards?
[19:50] <HexaChop> I am installing ubuntu now.
[19:50] <HexaChop> Scratch mint.
[19:51] <ioria> HexaChop,  16.10 ?
[19:51] <wlan2|2> HexaChop: working is 16.10?
[19:51] <HexaChop> Not yet, no.
[19:51] <jhutchins> Serdar: That's the more significant part, my 1050 is a 107 as well.
[19:51] <k1l> HexaChop: which version?
[19:51] <metaresolve> Can anyone help a new with authentication keys?
[19:51] <jhutchins> HexaChop: I'd make sure quick boot and secure boot are disabled.
[19:51] <wlan2|2> metachr0n: Maybe if you elaborate.
[19:51] <wlan2|2> Dang.
[19:52] <wlan2|2> I give up.
[19:52] <Spodermen_sweg> yo
[19:52] <nedstark> it appears you need a ppa driver for the 960M in 16.04 too
[19:52] <metaresolve> lol, actuial;ly, let me read a bit more so my questions are clear. brb.
[19:52] <Spodermen_sweg> Dayum it's been a while
[19:52] <Serdar> jhutchins, the system was running with acpi=off (but I guess wit nouvou driver) I changed them to acpi_osi= acpi_backlight=none acpi=ht and pci=nomsi but then the swindows is not starting anymore
[19:52] <Serdar> xwindow
[19:52] <Serdar> jhutchins, ah
[19:52] <HexaChop> jhutchins, the one before.
[19:52] <rumpler> I made a bootable clone of my drive to expand storage from 80gb on old drive to 320gb on new. My problem is that the cloned lvm seems to be unable to properly allocate or resize beyond the original size of 80gb
[19:52] <Serdar> nedstark, also foo 16.10?
[19:52] <nedstark> http://askubuntu.com/questions/658040/ubuntu-14-04-nvidia-drivers-for-geforce-gtx-960m#658045
[19:52] <Serdar> for
[19:52] <Spodermen_sweg> Brosefs, what's the least complicated way to install a basic lamp server on (k)ubuntu 16.04?
[19:52] <HexaChop> jhutchins, both are.
[19:53] <HexaChop> k1| the one before.
[19:53] <jhutchins> Serdar: Have a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  Very noisy, but often helpful.  Look for EE
[19:53] <HexaChop> Oh wait
[19:53] <rumpler> I tried several times using expert options in Clonezilla, and pvresize....
[19:53] <HexaChop> I cant disable secure boot.
[19:54] <Serdar> jhutchins, yeah I checked that already
[19:54] <HexaChop> Secure boot state Enabled, jhutchins.
[19:54] <nedstark> Serdar, this says yes http://askubuntu.com/questions/725820/getting-geforce-gtx960-to-work-with-ubuntu
[19:54] <jhutchins> HexaChop: The whole reason for Secure Boot is to keep you from booting Linux.
[19:54] <HexaChop> jhutchins, why?
[19:54] <jhutchins> HexaChop: So you have to run Windows.
[19:55] <HexaChop> Jhutchins my PC came handbuilt. There was no OS on it.
[19:55] <jhutchins> HexaChop: There are some business security reasons, but mostly it's just Microsoft being pushy.
[19:55] <nedstark> i wonder why the 960M drivers aren't in the repo
[19:56] <HexaChop> jhutchins, help disable it? Will it void warranty?
[19:56] <jhutchins> nedstark: They might not have made it through packaging yet.
[19:56] <HexaChop> jhutchins,  but it lets me choose OS type to Other OS.
[19:57] <nedstark> the repo doesn't seem to have nvidia-358, but has 361 and 367
[19:57] <jhutchins> HexaChop: You would have to read your own warranty.
[19:57] <jhutchins> HexaChop: It shouldn't void it.
[19:57] <Serdar> yeah 367 is also available with the standard repository
[19:58] <jhutchins> !secureboot
[19:58] <Spodermen_sweg> ^^what's the least complicated way to install a basic lamp server on (k)ubuntu 16.04?
[19:58] <HexaChop> Jhutchins but it allows to choose os type to other os.
[19:58] <nedstark> the 960M uses nvidia-358
[19:58] <ducasse> HexaChop: that usually disables secire boot, choose other os
[19:58] <ducasse> *secure
[19:58] <Spodermen_sweg> Bonus Question: Is there a way to remove ubuntu from a win10 dual boot that has no risk of catastrophic failure
[19:58] <jhutchins> HexaChop: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot
[19:59] <nedstark> Spodermen_sweg, you can do it through windows' partition software
[19:59] <nedstark> format it as ntfs
[19:59] <Spodermen_sweg> nedstark, but that wouldn't solve the issue of the bootloader surely?
[19:59] <nedstark> can even resize your windows partition to take the extra space, but thats a little more risky
[20:00] <jhutchins> Spodermen_sweg: There's no real risk of catastrophic failure.  Human error, yes.
[20:00] <Spodermen_sweg> My main concern is that when I delete grub, the computer won't be able to start at all
[20:00] <HexaChop> jhutchins does it disable itnif I choose other OS instead of Windowz UEFI Mode?
[20:01] <jhutchins> Spodermen_sweg: You can restore the Windows MBR.  Used to be fdisk /mbr iirc.
[20:01] <nedstark> Spodermen_sweg, there's a windows command shell command for fixit it, bootrec.exe /fixmbr
[20:01] <jhutchins> HexaChop: No, unless that switches to BIOS emulation.  I don't know what your hardware does.
[20:01] <Spodermen_sweg> and re-installing windows 10 over linux isn't an (legal) option, because they discontinued free updates last year
[20:01] <HexaChop> Jhutchins it is called UEFI BIOS
[20:02] <jhutchins> HexaChop: They all are.
[20:02] <ducasse> HexaChop: 'other os' usually disables secure boot, it just doesn't say so
[20:02] <jhutchins> HexaChop: As opposed to CMOS BIOS.
[20:02] <Spodermen_sweg> jhutchins: "You can restore the Windows MBR" >> I'll find out more about this, thanks
[20:03] <jhutchins> Spodermen_sweg: For that matter, you can set Grub to boot to Windows by default and leave it there.
[20:03] <HexaChop> ducasse, but it still says secure, mode enabled.
[20:03] <nedstark> Spodermen_sweg, if you already installed windows 10 and logged in to your microsoft account at least once, it will remember your pc is registered
[20:03] <nedstark> even if you deleted windows
[20:04] <nedstark> if you installed windows 10 and never logged in, you can call microsoft to get them to activate windows 10.  the deadline only applied to systems where win10 was never installed
[20:04] <ducasse> HexaChop: you can boot a live image and run "mokutil --sb-state", that will tell you.
[20:04] <Spodermen_sweg> nedstark: Hmm, interesting... I'll look into that first. reinstalling from scratch would be ideal
[20:04] <nedstark> you can erase and reinstall as many times as you want legally
[20:06] <EmeraldKiwi24> I am here to help
[20:06] <jhutchins> Spodermen_sweg: Just make sure you have any actual Data backed up any time you're messing with installers or partitions.
[20:06] <joachim_> hey can my someone tell who i can install a tor browser on ubunto mate?
[20:07] <k1l> !tor | joachim_
[20:07] <Spodermen_sweg> jhutchins: Nah, we already wiped all the personal data, so it's no problem (woooo)
[20:08] <rumpler> Can anyone help me undestand this lvm issue? I normally do not set up my drives in this way, but allowed Ubuntu to do an automatic installation in this instance and cannot figure out how to utilize all this extra disk space
[20:08] <HexaChop> I know how to disable it, ducasse, jhutchins.
[20:08] <Serdar> this is strange if I only use acpi=off, then the X also starts, but I guess without nvidia drivers
[20:12] <HexaChop> Jhutchins, now I get other errors.
[20:13] <Serdar> nedstark, if there is no 358, should I try 352 instead?
[20:13] <Speiros> rumpler What are you wanting to do with the disk space?
[20:13] <Serdar> I mean 367 is definetly not working...
[20:14] <HexaChop> iora, are you still around?
[20:14] <ioria> HexaChop, yep :þ
[20:15] <ioria> HexaChop,  have you set nomodeset ?
[20:15] <Serdar> or other question, when I add a repository, how can I make sure, that the package is taken from that repository and not from other?
[20:15] <HexaChop> iora, great! I managed to disable secure boot.
[20:15] <ioria> HexaChop,  errors ?
[20:16] <HexaChop> iorra, lota, but some are different.
[20:16] <ioria> HexaChop,  have you set nomodeset ?
[20:16] <HexaChop> Device not accepting address 7 and 8
[20:16] <butter_brick> HNNNNNNGGGGGG installing lamp using Tasksel.. yay or nay? (16.04)
[20:16] <HexaChop> Iora, nope.
[20:16] <ioria> HexaChop,  do it, F6
[20:16] <HexaChop> Iora, it throws me into GRUB.
[20:16] <Speiros> rumpler what do you perceive is the problem with the disk space?
[20:17] <k1l> butter_brick: tasksel does the same as a manual pacakge install. so why not?
[20:17] <ioria> HexaChop,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions   look at the pictures
[20:17] <k1l> !lamp | butter_brick
[20:17] <restsdfgsdfg> WINE channel?
[20:17] <rumpler> Speiros, Hi. Thanks for listening. I am trying to upgrade my space from old 80gb drive to newer 320gb drive. I have successfully made bootable clone several times but never can get cloned partition to utilize the full 320gb space and only recognizes 80gb
[20:17] <k1l> !wine | restsdfgsdfg
[20:18] <HexaChop> iora, just askin'. Are you a female? If so, awesome to see some females actualy interested in linux troubleshooting!
[20:18] <restsdfgsdfg> you know typing winehq was faster ? : D
[20:18] <restsdfgsdfg> thanks
[20:18] <rumpler> Speiros, I tried using Clonezilla with expert options and tried pvresize
[20:18] <ioria> HexaChop,  lol
[20:18] <butter_brick> tasksel it is... thankur
[20:18] <Speiros> rumpler I see.  Let me look on my computer to see if it's possible for what I suggest first...
[20:18] <lasersaber> irc is 99% males
[20:18] <butter_brick> btw anyone in here major in compSci?
[20:19] <HexaChop> Srsly tho, you'll rarely see a girl doing stuff like this.
[20:19] <nedstark> serdar, nvidia has a driver search page that has generic linux drivers (not ubuntu-specific).  http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us  in the absence of a driver in the repo, i'd try that.  it looks as if this is the most current driver for the 960M but you can double check yourself http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/112992/en-us
[20:20] <Speiros> rumpler Are you looking to resize the partitions?
[20:20] <butter_brick> (>_>)
[20:20] <Speiros> lasersaber Where is the information on that?
[20:20] <butter_brick> (*b*)
[20:21] <Speiros> lasersaber I wouldn't know a male from a female on here...generally speaking I mean.
[20:21] <lasersaber> Speiros, based on my own experience.
[20:21] <HexaChop> iora, nomodeset enabled!
[20:21] <Speiros> lol okay:)
[20:21] <butter_brick> HexaChop: You're probably right, but I estimate it's more of a 90/10 split, maybe even 85|15
[20:21] <ioria> HexaChop,  if nomodeset it's not useful,  you need to edit the kernel boot line with nouveau.modeset=0 , i'll tell you how
[20:21] <rumpler> Speiros, Yes I am. I have done so through gparted, and it tells me it was successful and that the space was properly allocated, but when I check with pvdisplay or df -h it says only 80gb  size
[20:21] <butter_brick> btw anyone in here major in compSci?
[20:21] <butter_brick> btw anyone in here major in compSci?
[20:22] <butter_brick> Spameh^
[20:22] <Speiros> rumpler Ah, okay.  That was going to be my suggestion...
[20:22] <Speiros> butter_brick I think more a 87.5/12.5%...
[20:23] <HexaChop> Iora, it removed chipset errora while all others remained there.
[20:23] <k1l> butter_brick: for non technical support chatter there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:23] <ioria> HexaChop, booting 16.10 ?
[20:23] <Speiros> rumpler Have you turned the machine on and off since the resize (not that I know for sure it will do anything)?
[20:23] <HexaChop> Iora, whoops.
[20:23] <HexaChop> Oh yes.
[20:24] <HexaChop> Iora, lemme get the newer version then.
[20:24] <butter_brick> k1l:  oops sorry
[20:24] <ioria> HexaChop, i think is better, but first you can try nouveau.modeset=0
[20:24] <rumpler> Speiros, yes several times as I have made several clones at this point in attempts to solve this. At one point I tried lvextend, and that gave me the output in pvdisplay that all of the 320gb drive space was used, and nautilus still acts like there is only 80gb
[20:25] <HexaChop> Iora I am already getting the newer version.
[20:26] <Speiros> rumpler Are all the file systems the same, the ones you're changing into, as the clone?
[20:26] <Jordan_U> rumpler: You need to extend the vg now that you've extended the pv.
[20:26] <Speiros> rumpler Sorry if they sound like silly questions.
[20:26] <HexaChop> Iora, secureboot reenabled itself, lol.
[20:26] <Serdar> can this cause issues "The distribution-provided pre-install script failed!"
[20:26] <rumpler> Jordan_U, how may I do that?
[20:26] <rumpler> Speiros, as far as I know
[20:26] <Speiros> rumpler Ok.
[20:27] <rumpler> Jordan_U what I mean is what are the parameters for vgextend?
[20:27] <HexaChop> Iora, are 1070 considered supercards?
[20:27] <ioria> HexaChop, if set to 'Other Os' is ok.   you need to highlight 'install ubuntu' and then press 'e' or 'tab' ... in this way you can modify the parameters . You'll see a line that ends with 'quiet  splash' you just need to add  nouveau.modeset=0
[20:28] <Guest51233> can this cause issues "The distribution-provided pre-install script failed!"
[20:28] <rumpler> Jordan_U is it similar to lvextend i.e. "lvextend -l +100%FREE /dev/etc"?
[20:28] <ioria> HexaChop, i'd say yes
[20:28] <Speiros> Serdar1 In what application?
[20:28] <Serdar1> nvidia driver installation
[20:28] <HexaChop> iora but both of them lag while playing GTA V.
[20:29] <nedstark> fyi nvidia actually has live chat tech support for video cards http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/chat/chat_launch/
[20:29] <Jordan_U> rumpler: http://www.tecmint.com/extend-and-reduce-lvms-in-linux/ Note that while that guide mentions creating a new partition, you do *not* need to do that in your case.
[20:29] <k1l> Serdar1: show the whole errormessages /output on paste.ubuntu.com
[20:29] <Speiros> Serdar Ok.  I don't know personally.  Look at the info nedstark highlighted though, as it might help.
[20:29] <joachim_> dpkg: nicht behebbarer fataler Fehler, Abbruch:
[20:29] <joachim_>  unbekannte Gruppe »crontab« in statoverride-Datei
[20:29] <joachim_>  want can i do??
[20:29] <ioria> HexaChop, 397,00 € in my country
[20:30] <joachim_> if i want to install a programm this error dpkg: nicht behebbarer fataler Fehler, Abbruch:
[20:30] <joachim_>  unbekannte Gruppe »crontab« in statoverride-Datei
[20:30] <rumpler> Jordan_U, thank you I will take a look at the link
[20:30] <thereyouare> what is GTA V ?
[20:30] <Serdar1> k1l, this is the complete message. I can continue (at own risk) or abort.
[20:30] <HexaChop> It costed 600€ here, iora.
[20:30] <ioria> HexaChop, yup
[20:30] <Serdar1> ioria, what is the nouveau.modeset=0 doing?
[20:30] <Jordan_U> joachim_: Please run "LANG=C" in a terminal, then run the command that output that message agin (it should then be in English) and pastebin the full output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com .
[20:31] <HexaChop> thereyouare probably the best game ever on PC
[20:31] <Serdar1> HexaChop, ever played Feeble Files?
[20:31] <HexaChop> Iora, it says AMD, why?
[20:31] <HexaChop> Serdar1, nope.
[20:31] <ioria> Serdar1, it  makes nouveau go away
[20:32] <Serdar1> hmm
[20:32] <ioria> HexaChop, amd ?
[20:32] <joachim_> ok here in english sry  dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:
[20:32] <joachim_>  unknown group 'crontab' in statoverride file
[20:32] <Speiros> joachim_ "unrecoverable fatal error"
[20:32] <HexaChop> Yep, iora, the filename has amd64 in it.
[20:33] <ioria> HexaChop, no, that's anothe thing ... it's your arch
[20:33] <HexaChop> My what, ioria?
[20:33] <ioria> HexaChop, you're 64bit
[20:33] <HexaChop> Ioria, ye.
[20:33] <ioria> HexaChop, architecture ... 36 or 64 bit
[20:33] <HexaChop> Ioria 32*
[20:34] <k1l> HexaChop: load the 64bit file and use that.
[20:34] <HexaChop> 32-86 or 64, ioria.
[20:34] <ioria> HexaChop, you're for sure 64bit
[20:34] <thereyouare> HexaChop: the best game ever is DOOM
[20:34] <HexaChop> K1| I know, sir.
[20:35] <HexaChop> Thereyouare, depends on taste.
[20:35] <Serdar1> I still say Feeble Files :)
[20:35] <arunpyasi> hello !!
[20:35] <arunpyasi> anyone around please ?
[20:35] <Serdar1> also Simon the Sorcerer series
[20:35] <Speiros> joachim_ What are you wanting to do?
[20:35] <thereyouare> arunpyasi: what is the best PC game ever ?
[20:35] <joachim_> i want to install firefox
[20:35] <arunpyasi> thereyouare, PlanetSide
[20:35] <arunpyasi> 2
[20:35] <Speiros> thereyouare minesweeper:D
[20:36] <Serdar1> Shoot him
[20:36] <Speiros> lol
[20:36] <arunpyasi> joachim_, sudo apt install firefox
[20:36] <k1l> joachim_: german support is in #ubuntu-de channel. but you can put all the error/output to paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here.
[20:36] <Serdar1> err sorry, thought this is a crime scene
[20:36] <HexaChop> Technical chat became what-game-is-the-best-chat. Lol.
[20:36] <arunpyasi> Can anyone help me with VNC stuffs !!
[20:36] <Speiros> arunpyasi What is your question mate?
[20:37] <Serdar1> it is the game which comes after the one you play!
[20:37] <lasersaber> how come apt is used instead of apt-get or vise versa?
[20:37] <k1l> lasersaber: apt is the new apt-get (apt-cache,apt-file,...)
[20:37] <jatt> apt is newer and better
[20:37] <Serdar1> I will call it "The Earth"
[20:38] <arunpyasi> Speiros, I am kinda being attacked by some IPs, trying to login my tightvncserver
[20:38] <lasersaber> ok thanks guys
[20:38] <arunpyasi> and the server is also rejecting my own IP
[20:38] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: vnc really shouldn't be exposed to the internet.
[20:38] <Serdar1> http://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/The_Feeble_Files
[20:39] <arunpyasi> so, what i need to do is, make use of SSH but I am having issue that my windows machine doesn't have SSH in their VNC client
[20:39] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: How do you know it's being attacked?
[20:39] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: Google putty ssh
[20:39] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, via the log of tightvncserver
[20:39] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: Use that.
[20:39] <lasersaber> arunpyasi, try teamviewer
[20:39] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, I have multiple servers that needs to be vnc into
[20:40] <arunpyasi> lasersaber, thats not a good solution
[20:40] <HexaChop> Ioria, USB nearly ready
[20:40] <Serdar1> I guess you need Yming
[20:40] <Serdar1> err
[20:40] <Serdar1> Xming
[20:40] <lasersaber> arunpyasi, or nomachine.com
[20:40] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, I need something like Remmina with SSH in it.
[20:40] <ioria> HexaChop, ok
[20:40] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: vnc should only run on a LAN or over VPN.
[20:40] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, hmm VPN seems good
[20:40] <HexaChop> Ioria, will all those reboors ruin my PC?
[20:40] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, Is there any free VPN service ?
[20:40] <ioria> HexaChop, guess not
[20:40] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, how do I use it ?
[20:41] <arunpyasi> or configure it ?
[20:41] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: If you have to expose a port for ssh or vnc it should not be on the standard port.
[20:41] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: You can set up a vpn server on ubuntu.
[20:41] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, ok, changing to non-standard should be fine right ?
[20:41] <lasersaber> nomachine is pretty great
[20:41] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: People can still find it by portscanning.
[20:41] <HexaChop> Ioria, why linux are so sensitive to any kind of fault?
[20:41] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, should I setup vpn server on the same VNC server or another ?
[20:42] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: I don't know enough about your network to advise you.
[20:42] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: What are you running that you need to connect to VNC for?
[20:42] <ioria> HexaChop, it's opensource aka reverse  engineering ... especially with drivers like amd or nvidia
[20:43] <jhutchins> HexaChop: Windows has plenty of problems too.
[20:43] <Speiros> arunpyasi If you need to fix it, there may be more information at ##networking too.
[20:43] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, I have around 40-50 VPS running that I need to VNC to
[20:43] <HexaChop> Jhutchins bet much less.
[20:44] <ioria> HexaChop, you'll always have to struggle  with new (not opensource) hardware on linux
[20:44] <jhutchins> HexaChop: It depends on what you're doing with it.
[20:44] <jhutchins> HexaChop: Think about it, when was the last time you worked at this level (video drivers, etc) on Windows?
[20:45] <ioria> HexaChop, for me, it's still impossible run an built-in card reader
[20:46] <jhutchins> HexaChop: Hardware manufacturers work directly with Microsoft to make sure their stuff works with windows.
[20:46] <ioria> right
[20:46] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, is there a way to forward a port to another port in same PC ?
[20:46] <lasersaber> winblows*
[20:46] <HexaChop> Jhutchins linux makes you to know a lot more about programs than Windows.
[20:46] <jhutchins> HexaChop: Not as many work with Linux developers before they release.
[20:46] <Serdar1> how can I easily check if nvidia driver is loaded?
[20:46] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: I don't think that would work the way you want.
[20:47] <fund> How to dual boot?
[20:47] <alkisg> Serdar1:  lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA ==> and check for driver in use: nvidia
[20:47] <HexaChop> Ioria, I have muxh different errors now.
[20:47] <ioria> HexaChop, 16.10 with nomodeset ?
[20:48] <HexaChop> Ioria, forgot about that.
[20:48] <alpaaa> i have a problem. I installed ubuntu gnome on a single partition. Then i created a partition and moved all the contents of /home to it . Next, I edited /etc/fstab and set the new partition to mount at /home. But now i cant log in as gdm returns back to login page after i login. I checked in a tty, the partition is mounting properly. Any ideas what could have gone wrong?
[20:48] <ioria> HexaChop, F6 then we try nouveau.modeset=0
[20:48] <Bashing-om> Serdar1: I look at ' sudo lshw -C display ' to see if a video driver is loaded . look on the configuration line .
[20:48] <HexaChop> I get no SPROM available, iora.
[20:48] <alkisg> alpaaa: maybe /home/username ownership? Does it belong to the user?
[20:48] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, so, what would be the solution ?
[20:49] <jhutchins> fund: http://www.howtogeek.com/187789/dual-booting-explained-how-you-can-have-multiple-operating-systems-on-your-computer/
[20:49] <fund> Thanks jhu
[20:49] <alpaaa> alkisg: yes that belongs to the user
[20:49] <Speiros> arunpyasi I think you are doing what I was thinking of doing to some extent, but it sounds like I can't do it either.
[20:50] <ioria> HexaChop, reboot,  highlight 'install ubuntu' and then press 'e' or 'tab'    find  'quiet  splash'   and  add   nouveau.modeset=0   then F10 or enter
[20:50] <alkisg> alpaaa:  can you login properly if you switch to vt1 with alt+ctrl+f1?
[20:50] <HexaChop> Iora, http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[20:51] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: So these VPSs are on some hosting provider.  Does the hosting provider offer a firewall?  Can they restrict what addresses can reach your VNC?  Can they give you a virtual IP that forwards certain connections to ports on specific VMs?
[20:51] <Serdar1> darn, what happened to the good old alt + ctrl + backspace?
[20:51] <Serdar1> it is not working anymore
[20:51] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: What software are you running on these servers?
[20:51] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, its Vultr
[20:51] <alpaaa> alkisg: yes i can
[20:51] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, tightvncserver
[20:51] <HexaChop> Iora, neither e nor tab works.
[20:52] <alkisg> alpaaa: also, what's the fstab line that you're using?
[20:52] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, I had restricted some IPs via firewalld but the solution seems temporary as there may be other attacks in future
[20:52] <alkisg> (for home)
[20:52] <darkxploit_> msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER darkxploit_ qaajpsvbonpn
[20:53] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: Restrict all, allow some.  Your firewall should be able to forward ports.
[20:53] <lasersaber> Serdar1, try using hardinfo sudo apt install hardinfo
[20:53] <jhutchins> darkxploit_: You may want to change your password.
[20:53] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, I have only enabled forward for 5900
[20:53] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, I but my IP is dynamic
[20:53] <jhutchins> arunpyasi: Some firewalls will act as VPN servers too.
[20:53] <Speiros> darkxploit_ don't forget the / before the msg.
[20:53] <arunpyasi> it changes previodically
[20:54] <arunpyasi> periodically
[20:54] <Speiros> It is a risk that...
[20:54] <alpaaa> UUID=d486d1f8-987a-47ee-91f1-834059193fe7 /home      ext4   errors=remount-ro 0     1
[20:54] <jhutchins> fund: If you ask your questions here anyone can answer.  I tend to come and go.
[20:54] <ioria> HexaChop,  the nouveau errors are away... have you assembled yourself the desktop ?
[20:55] <Serdar1> for some reason I cannot check with all these tools, if nvidia is used or intel
[20:55] <fund> I have windows tablet
[20:55] <thereyouare> there is a box, with 5 red and 1 blue ball, what is more probable:  1) I take out 5 balls and they are all red   2) I take out 1 ball and it is blue
[20:55] <fund> And now want to use Ubuntu
[20:55] <HexaChop> Iora, with some help, yes.
[20:55] <fund> How to boot Ubuntu?
[20:55] <fund> And use it?
[20:55] <alkisg> alpaaa: if you login from vt1 and try to create a file, with e.g. "touch hi", do you get any errors?
[20:55] <fund> Grub or yumi will be needed?
[20:55] <alpaaa> nopes
[20:55] <jhutchins> fund: Try a live image, booted from disc or USB.
[20:56] <ioria> HexaChop,  try to switch the sata ports
[20:56] <fund> External pen drive will be required?
[20:56] <alpaaa> yes fund
[20:56] <fund> Why
[20:56] <jhutchins> fund: If it's _just_ a tablet it might not be a good idea, google for the specific tablet + ubuntu and see if other people have done it.
[20:56] <HexaChop> Ioria, the hard drive is external, by the way, I want to give up.
[20:56] <fund> I have space in my hard disk to store Ubuntu
[20:57] <fund> jhutchins I need your help to Google if you can
[20:57] <jhutchins> fund: You need to boot to something other than the existing OS in order to install Ubuntu.
[20:57] <fund> I didn't get you
[20:57] <jhutchins> fund: What make & model?
[20:57] <alpaaa> alkisg: found the fix - the partition had some sort of errors and was mounting in ro. i fsck'd it and now i am able to log in
[20:57] <fund> Iball i701
[20:58] <ioria> HexaChop,  are you installing ubuntu on external usb hd  ?
[20:58] <HexaChop> Ioria, yes.
[20:58] <alkisg> alpaaa: nice
[20:59] <fund> I started downloading lubuntu since it's light weight
[20:59] <fund> It is being dowaloading in tablet ssd
[20:59] <alpaaa> fund: if you really need something lightweight go for lubuntu instead of ubuntu
[20:59] <Speiros> thereyouare I guess 1)...
[21:00] <fund> alpaaa yes
[21:00] <Speiros> *always goes for the opposite of what seems correct...
[21:00] <lasersaber> also, inxi is nice little tool too.
[21:00] <thereyouare> Speiros: someone in #statistics said: "< Hwkiller> the ball problem still sounds equal: 5/6 * 4/5 * 3/4 * 2/3 * 1/2 = 1/6"
[21:01] <zamanf> is there a way to encrypt a usb device and protect it with password (SHA512 if possible)
[21:01] <Speiros> thereyouare there you are!  Interesting.
[21:01] <ioria> HexaChop,  i'd try to switch the sata ports
[21:01] <HexaChop> I decided to give linux a go but now never again, it is way too difficult and can riun PCs very easily, ioria...
[21:02] <thereyouare> HexaChop: try slackware
[21:02] <ioria> HexaChop,  ruin ? no....
[21:02] <HexaChop> Ioria, how, it is not on sata.
[21:02] <jhutchins> fund: I would not recommend this.  It's not a very well supported device, and Ubuntu is meant to run on a standard PC or Laptop.
[21:02] <ioria> HexaChop,  yes, but first it scans your hw
[21:02] <jhutchins> fund: I'm not sure what processor that uses, there might be an Ubuntu build that will run on it.
[21:02] <fund> jhutchins it's like pc only
[21:03] <HexaChop> Ioria, what if I have no other HDDs?
[21:03] <fund> Intel atom
[21:03] <ioria> HexaChop,  connected ... you mean ?
[21:03] <fund> You just guide Me steps to follow
[21:03] <HexaChop> Ioria, yes.
[21:03] <fund> I take all risks
[21:04] <ioria> HexaChop,  you can run the live (try ubuntu without install) but you can't install it
[21:04] <HexaChop> Ioria Can I tell you something? There shouls be no space after?!., etc.
[21:04] <HexaChop> Before*
[21:04] <HexaChop> Ioria, doesn't work still.
[21:04] <ioria> HexaChop,  after what ?
[21:05] <Speiros> lol
[21:06] <Speiros> HexaChop Are you sure about that                    ?
[21:06] <Speiros> ioria:D
[21:06] <HexaChop> Ioria, before, I meant.
[21:06] <fund> Wubi
[21:06] <ioria> HexaChop, do this, disconnect the sata's ports, and run 'try ubuntu without install'
[21:06] <fund> I found this tool
[21:06] <Speiros> *pulls his head in.
[21:07] <jhutchins> fund: It is pretty likely that the drivers for this are not available in ubuntu.
[21:07] <HexaChop> Speiros, come on now, I am just trying to help, lol, and I am not intimidated by your huge spaces.
[21:07] <Speiros> HexaChop Man, I thought with spaces like that, I'd at least look bigger.
[21:08] <HexaChop> Speiros, nah, lol.
[21:08] <Speiros> Ok:D
[21:08] <jhutchins> fund: I don't know what tools you would use for partitioning it.  If you're not confident in googling for turorials, or if there _aren't_ tutorials, you're probably over your head and at risk of bricking the tablet.
[21:09] <ioria> HexaChop, i have to go, good luck
[21:09] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Which is better: copy source to software RAID backup1/backup2 mirror vs copy source to backup1 then copy backup1 to backup2 using rsync and cron?
[21:10] <Speiros> thereyouare I was thinking about that ball thing...
[21:11] <HexaChop> Speiros, you are not going to help me, are you?
[21:11] <Speiros> thereyouare There's another factor.
[21:11] <thereyouare> what is Tylenol ?
[21:11] <Speiros> Hexachop I don't know too much I'm afraid, on a serious note.
[21:12] <HexaChop> Well, I am very much unsuccessful with linux.
[21:13] <lasersaber> HexaChop, why?
[21:14] <Speiros> HexaChop Once you get past the problem, you'll love it, and I doubt you'll go back to Windows, but problems are hell-frustrating.
[21:15] <HexaChop> Speiros, yup... That is probably the only con on linux.
[21:15] <Speiros> HexaChop Yep.  The only one in my eyes too:)
[21:16] <lasersaber> Serdar1, did you figure it out?
[21:16] <Speiros> HexaChop I look at the image you uploaded, and I don't understand it.
[21:16] <HexaChop> Speiros, :). This problem is gibberish to me.
[21:17] <HexaChop> Speiros,  maybe contact with linux devs?
[21:17] <Speiros> I think you're in the right place now, but time is a problem in knowing who knows what and when they are on.
[21:18] <Speiros> thereyouare The other factor is error.
[21:18] <Speiros> thereyouare To presume that all five balls will be selected equally, I mean.
[21:18] <HexaChop> Speiros, hey, maybe you can notify me somehow?
[21:18] <Speiros> HexaChop  I haven't moved onto 16.4 yet because of a problem with my soundcard.
[21:19] <Speiros> What are you looking for?  I mean as regards this notification?
[21:20] <HexaChop> Speiros maybe notify me when the devs are on.
[21:20] <HexaChop> Speiros I wonder why linux is so special.
[21:20] <Speiros> HexaChop I'm not on here 24/7 mate.
[21:20] <Speiros> HexaChop One reason for me is when I wanted to use my business plan, is I had all the programs at my fingertips.
[21:20] <lasersaber> open source is a beautiful thing :)
[21:21] <lasersaber> and free
[21:21] <lasersaber> :)
[21:21] <Speiros> HexaChop When I wanted to make my music, the same applied.
[21:21] <HexaChop> Speiros, if you log in at a perfect time would increase the odds to meet the devs.
[21:21] <Speiros> At the time Windows was charging an arm and a leg for Microsoft Project, when on Ubuntu, I could download it, with a great GUI to go.
[21:22] <Speiros> HexaChop I'm in Australia, and I believe the most devs would be in Europe, UK and US.
[21:22] <HexaChop> 16.4, Speiros? Can you tell me more?
[21:23] <Speiros> HexaChop When you have it uploaded on  your computer, you can have a flashback to Microsoft's "Add and remove programs" and think "When did I ever "Add" anything?
[21:23] <Speiros> HexaChop Then you will see the Software Centre, or the Package Manager.
[21:23] <Speiros> On Ubuntu I mean.
[21:23] <HexaChop> Speiros, true, only removed stuff.
[21:24] <Speiros> HexaChop Yep.
[21:24] <Speiros> The solution for Windows, which didn't always work, was "Throw money at me!"
[21:24] <Speiros> Virus-ridden and open to many attacks for the inexperienced, of which I am/was.
[21:24] <HexaChop> Speiros, again, true, with linux, you couls create your own OS.
[21:24] <dsnyders> Personally, the only thing keeping me on Windows is MS-OneNote.  If there were a decent clone of it, I'd switch completely.
[21:25] <tatertots> HexaChop: surely you have actually install ubuntu by now yes?
[21:25] <Speiros> HexaChop True, if you've got the skills and capacity to put the pieces together.
[21:25] <HexaChop> Dsnyders I don't use MS Note.
[21:25] <HexaChop> Speirow, true.
[21:25] <HexaChop> Tatertots, no.
[21:25] <Speiros> dsnyders What is OneNote again?  It's been a long time.
[21:26] <lasersaber> dsnyders, codeweavers.com
[21:26] <tatertots> HexaChop: surely you have tried ubuntu livecd/liveusb by now yes?
[21:27] <HexaChop> Tatertots yep. Same.
[21:27] <dsnyders> Speiros: It's a tabbed binder notebook kind of thing.  I have a lot of notes on it.
[21:27] <Serdar1> lasersaber, yes, I changed my grub settings
[21:28] <lasersaber> Serdar1, ok
[21:28] <bivo> Why is my clipboard purged if my system goes to screensaver?
[21:28] <Speiros> dsnyders I see. Ok.
[21:28] <HexaChop> Tatertots surpassed 11 hours of trying to solve this.
[21:29] <dsnyders> lasersaber: It only gets three stars.  I think I'd be better off running windows in a virtual machine and running OneNote there.
[21:30] <blomstertj> Can someone help me out with MS Core Fonts?
[21:30] <lasersaber> dsnyders, or that :)
[21:30] <Speiros> Yeah, sorry HexaChop, but as for the NVIDIA card, that's why I'm still in 14.4.  The only reason...at least so far.
[21:30] <lasersaber> dsnyders, https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/crossover/microsoft-onenote-2007
[21:31] <blomstertj> I have the right packages but it still wont' show up
[21:31] <HexaChop> Try the newest version, Speiros.
[21:32] <dsnyders> lasersaber: Any experience running it in wine?
[21:32] <scokovski> Hi, can any of you tell me how to turn on keyboard backlighting in Ubuntu 16.10?
[21:32] <scokovski> I can't seem to find the setting for it.
[21:33] <Speiros> HexaChop Once I see the problem has gone away, I will.
[21:34] <HexaChop> Maybe the same problem applies to me, Speiros?
[21:35] <lasersaber> dsnyders, no since i bought crossover linux
[21:35] <reyz> guys any1 installed Samba?
[21:36] <lasersaber> i use it for MS Office 2007, works great
[21:36] <Speiros> HexaChop possibly mate.  If you want to start with the 14.4 version, at least the NVIDIA doesn't have a problem...at least in my case.
[21:36] <arunpyasi> jhutchins, I have a plan.. what would be if I do private networking of my VPS with each other and setup OpenVPN on one of them and login OpenVPN on my machine and try to connect the other VPS using their private IP ??
[21:37] <HexaChop> Speiros, how does your problem expresses itself?
[21:37] <thereyouare> what video card has better support in ubuntu ? Intel ? Radeon ? Nvidia ? for gaming
[21:37] <reyz> can you game on Ubuntu?
[21:37] <basedmars> does it worth the money lasersaber ? Crossover
[21:37] <reyz> woudnt u get better performance on a Win10 machine?
[21:38] <bgd> no, you can play like in windows
[21:38] <thereyouare> I heard that too often
[21:38] <bgd> cant
[21:38] <lasersaber> dsnyders, for me it was, you can search for coupons online and get a discount
[21:38] <HexaChop> Reyz, much less games, but better performance.
[21:38] <colmoot> You can very well actually
[21:38] <Speiros> HexaChop I have no sound at all, as though there is no sound driver.
[21:38] <thereyouare> why can't they make Ubuntu a gaming platform it will increase its chances of survival on desctops
[21:38] <reyz> HexaChop: i thought the games are optimized for Windows and not Linux...
[21:38] <Speiros> I updated the NVIDIA card, and no sound.  As I make music, I need sound, so I reverted backwards to 14.4.
[21:38] <HexaChop> reyz, linux is lightweight.
[21:39] <lasersaber> dsnyders, OneNote works flawlessly for me
[21:39] <lasersaber> 2007
[21:39] <colmoot> True, but Steam is changing things
[21:39] <bgd> so , nice comunity
[21:39] <sas-ai> :)
[21:39] <efloid> can anyone recommend video editing program?
[21:39] <HexaChop> Bgd, true. :)
[21:39] <blomstertj> Speiros: there is a graphics driver PPA for Nvidia cards
[21:39] <efloid> what is most popular video editor for linux?
[21:39] <blomstertj> I'm using it for my 770
[21:40] <bgd> I was thinking irc is dead :)
[21:40] <lasersaber> efloid, have you checked ubuntu sofware center?
[21:40] <HexaChop> Speiros, he is right. It is called nforce
[21:40] <HexaChop> Speiros, instead of GeForce.
[21:40] <Speiros> blomstertj brb, sorry...
[21:40] <bgd> I thought
[21:40] <mrpanda> https://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-announce/2016-April/002684.html
[21:40] <basedmars> Irc will never die bgd
[21:41] <tchnq> Hi all. I need help.
[21:41] <mrpanda> would this be good idea for radeon 2 ?
[21:41] <tchnq> IRC forever)
[21:41] <mrpanda> hey tchnq
[21:41] <bgd> :)))
[21:41] <mrpanda> mostly need the tear-free idea
[21:41] <mrpanda> :)
[21:42] <lasersaber> dsnyders, you can try corssover linux before you buy it
[21:42] <bgd> so, this is the oficcial channel ?
[21:42] <blomstertj> bgd: yes it should be
[21:42] <tchnq> I had installed Google Chrome first. Then I'd installed google extension called "Hangouts". Once I did it - Ubuntu forgot Google Chrome icon, and replaced it everywhere with "Google Chrome Hangouts" icon and tries to launch it even if I uninstall Chrome extension.
[21:42] <lasersaber> bgd, for ubuntu? yes
[21:42] <bgd> yes
[21:42] <bgd> I like also ubuntu
[21:42] <thereyouare> efloid: ffmpeg
[21:43] <Guest62965> How can i ente into the German chat??
[21:43] <tchnq> I would appreciate any help here. Because I am stuck on it.
[21:43] <lasersaber> bgd, this is the ubuntu help channel, you can go to #ubuntu-offtopic for off topic chat
[21:44] <lasersaber> don't ask for help, just state your ubuntu issue..
[21:44] <bgd> thank you
[21:44] <reyz> HexaChop: Windows 10 is lightweight on my i7 CPU too, i dont think the Windows are bottlenecking the gaming performance :P
[21:44] <tchnq> I have latest GoogleChrome and Ubuntu 16.04
[21:44] <Speiros> blomstertj Thanks for that driver info.  The problem was the waiting, and my impatience, and not being able to have a computer up and running to do what I needed, when the old one worked.  When I have time to play, I'll try again, and would appreciate knowing about this driver.
[21:44] <jordanblabla> hi everyone, is there a way to store apt-get packages and install them offline lateron?
[21:44] <jordanblabla> im trying to get kali up and running but no wireless drivers when booting from the usb
[21:45] <jordanblabla> so i thought i install the apt-get stuff store it on usb and run /install it lateron is this possible somehow?
[21:45] <efloid> thereyouare: that just a cli app.  i mean a video editing app
[21:45] <thereyouare> efloid: its linux, its cli all the way down
[21:45] <mrpanda> efloid,: http://www.techdrivein.com/2013/09/top-5-video-editors-for-ubuntu-linux.htmlhttp://www.techdrivein.com/2013/09/top-5-video-editors-for-ubuntu-linux.html
[21:45] <lasersaber> you must have a registered user name for #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:45] <HexaChop> Reyz, certainly, because you have a powerful CPU, like me. I have i7 6700K 4 Core 4.0 GHZ CPU and 2x Strix 1070 NVIDIA GPUs.
[21:46] <Mikerhinos> How could I know my motherboard SATA bottleneck ? I'm planning on getting back to a SSD raid-0 setup, this time with 4 SSD instead of 2, but not sure if my Sabertooth i55 will allow a perf upgrade from it.
[21:46] <thereyouare> "top-5-video-editors-for-ubuntu-linux", sounds like there is even more than 5 of them
[21:46] <mrpanda> umm
[21:46] <mrpanda> forgot wich one i was using think openshot
[21:46] <reyz> HexaChop: the games are optimized, when written, for windows
[21:46] <reyz> HexaChop: everything else is just a port
[21:46] <reyz> :D
[21:47] <anonymous> yae
[21:47] <mrpanda> keep on laffing in the free world
[21:47] <mrpanda> adios
[21:47] <tchnq> Guys any help for for me with this stupid google chrome hangouts icon?
[21:47] <blomstertj> Speiros: it's proprietary nvidia drivers but the ppa is here: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[21:47] <HexaChop> Reyz, there are some linux-only games, but mostly kinda yes.
[21:47] <blomstertj> Speiros: I haven't had any issues with it
[21:48] <reyz> HexaChop: ...who's playing linux only games? :P
[21:48] <thereyouare> I once tryed one video editor for linux, and what it was doing, that thing was first converting video to jpeg images and then its just shows image in GUI where you can use scroll bar to scroll over them, that was so cheap, I think it was back in 2008, after that I haven't tryed any video editors for linux, I don't even think good ones are exist
[21:48] <dsnyders> reyz: That's a switch.  Linux used to be the toy and windows the business OS.  Now games are on windows and linux is in the server rooms.
[21:48] <HexaChop> Reyz, certainly not me. :D
[21:48] <Speiros> blomstertj Okay...thanks.  I'll write it in my diary, and probably give it a go some time this week.
[21:50] <thereyouare> reyz: they games are not optimised for windows or linux they optimised for graphic drivers like radeon or nvidea or for graphics libraries, like directx or opengl, game doesn't see the OS itself it doesn't care if its linux or windows it sees drivers or libraries, you are you saying game engines optimised for windows ? so Unity3D optimised better for windows ? or games in Unreal Endine 4 are better
[21:50] <thereyouare> for windows ?
[21:50] <tchnq> Maybe there's a way to clean some temporary files from googlechromehangouts? Where can they be found?
[21:50] <blomstertj> Speiros: I haven't tried the sound from my GPU ever but it might work.  Vulkan is also in this ppa too so it's real easy.
[21:50] <blomstertj> tchnq: couldn't you just purge google chrome and reinstall it?
[21:50] <HexaChop> Thereyouare, go play windows games on linux then.
[21:51] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Building a NAS box for backups.  Which is better: software RAID backup1/backup2 mirror or  copy source to backup1 then copy backup1 to backup2 using rsync and cron?
[21:51] <thereyouare> HexaChop: I don't play, but I watch let's plays on youtube
[21:51] <reyz> thereyouare: Windows and Linux share the same drivers?
[21:52] <reyz> thereyouare: no
[21:52] <thereyouare> HexaChop: my PC barely can run Quake 4
[21:52] <Speiros> blomstertj Fair enough.  I'll have a look through the week, but if it fails, I'll just revert back to this platform, until it's "naturally" working as such.
[21:52] <Speiros> reyz No.:)
[21:52] <HexaChop> thereyouare you are missing out then.
[21:52] <thereyouare> "Millions of players... dozens of women... join today!"      -- World of Warcraft
[21:52] <thereyouare> no
[21:52] <reyz> thereyouare: both nVidia and AMD develop their drivers for what 99.9% of the gamers use, Windows
[21:52] <HexaChop> Thereyouare, no, not those games, try GTA V.
[21:53] <thereyouare> GTA 5 is 3.5 years old, do you thyink in next 2 years we will see GTA 6 ?
[21:53] <blomstertj> Got my font thing figured out.  The fonts install perfectly on my laptop so I just copied them from machine to machine.  Very annoying
[21:54] <thereyouare> I mean GTA 5 was released 5 years after GTA 4, so another 5 years and there have to be GTA 6
[21:54] <reyz> thereyouare: so Windows indirectly is optimized better for gaming compared to linux i guess :P
[21:54] <thereyouare> that was intimidating
[21:54] <blomstertj> thereyouare: DirectX is not going to help Linux, Vulkan will.
[21:54] <thereyouare> Ubuntindows
[21:54] <thereyouare> Ubundows
[21:55]  * Phanes pets ubottu on the head
[21:55] <reyz> I dont think that any company in the world will do much dev for Linux (gaming wise)
[21:55] <reyz> since there is not enough market for it
[21:55] <k1l_> thereyouare: can you put the general talk into #ubuntu-offtopic so this channel here is free for people with their support issues? thanks
[21:55] <thereyouare> DOOM 2016 was OpenGL only so its linux friendly
[21:55] <thereyouare> reyz: why do you think ?
[21:56] <thereyouare> reyz: why do you think DOOM 2016 choose OpenGL ?
[21:56] <blomstertj> True
[21:56] <reyz> thereyouare: i dont know, its just 1 company, 1 game
[21:56] <basedmars> that's where it's start. 1 game
[21:56] <reyz> thereyouare: i bet nVidia wont be arsed to develop for linux
[21:57] <KOLANICH> Hi all! Who can help me with launchpad API?
[21:57] <reyz> thereyouare: not worth the investment
[21:57] <HexaChop> Thereyouare maybe in 2022 or 2018.
[21:57] <Teddy8872> Hi Folks.
[21:57] <k1l_> !ot | reyz same goes for you
[21:57] <Teddy8872> Can anyone figure out why using the VGA on a monitor might deliver superior picture to using the HDMI?
[21:58] <dsnyders> Teddy8872: resolution differences, perhaps?
[21:58] <blomstertj> VGA and HDMI on the same component? IE motherboard vs GPU?
[21:59] <Teddy8872> http://www.howtogeek.com/285277/how-to-avoid-washed-out-colors-when-using-hdmi-on-your-pc/
[22:00] <blomstertj> What's your GPU? Intel, NVIDIA, AMD?
[22:00] <Teddy8872> Intel.
[22:01] <Teddy8872> How do I access the Intel using Ubuntu?
[22:01] <Teddy8872> If you have Intel graphics hardware, right-click your desktop background and select “Graphics Properties” to open the Intel Graphics Control Panel.
[22:01] <blomstertj> For a Windows machine.  You could find the Intel Linux utility.  You can try to look in the Color section in the Ubuntu Settings and mess around with different profiles
[22:01] <Teddy8872> Select Display > General Settings > Advanced and click “Full Range” under Quantization Range.
[22:02] <Teddy8872> I need to click FULL RANGE under Quant Range.
[22:02] <Teddy8872> How to figure out how to do that using Ubuntu?
[22:02] <HexaChop> Can somebody help me with ubuntu not booting for installation?
[22:03] <lasersaber> HexaChop, try to boot as recovery, then resume boot
[22:03] <blomstertj> You could try installing the Intel drivers: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[22:03] <HexaChop> Lasersaber, do what?
[22:03] <blomstertj> Find the one for your Ubuntu version there is separate ones for 16.10/16.04
[22:04] <Teddy8872> How do install the Intel drivers using Ubuntu?
[22:05] <lasersaber> HexaChop, when you boot with pick the adavnced option for recovery
[22:05] <Speiros> HexaChop, when you reboot with the disk, are you hitting f9 when prompted?
[22:05] <HexaChop> I am not being prompted, speiros.
[22:05] <Speiros> HexaChop So the computer is not turning on?
[22:06] <HexaChop> Speiros I see no f9 prompt.
[22:06] <lasersaber> HexaChop, are you booting from usb or cd?
[22:06] <Teddy8872> Folks?
[22:07] <HexaChop> Lasersaber usb.
[22:07] <Teddy8872> Some people report that this setting is reset to RGB Limited after they upgrade their graphics drivers. If your system was set to RGB Limited and you set it to RGB Full, an update may revert the setting to RGB Limited in the future. Keep an eye on it.
[22:07] <Teddy8872> I need to change RGB to FULL from Limited.
[22:07] <Teddy8872> Anyone know how to do this?
[22:07] <lasersaber> HexaChop, what tool did you use to create a ubunu live usb?
[22:07] <HexaChop> Rufus
[22:08] <HexaChop> Rufus, lasersaber, rufus...
[22:08] <Speiros> Ok, it flickers up on mine before the Ubuntu screen appears, along with the bios one.  Can you try it, and hit f9 as it does it?  What that f9 does is allows you to select the boot order, and you can choose your USB to boot from.  I don't have any experience with booting from USB though.
[22:09] <Teddy8872> Come on folks.
[22:09] <Teddy8872> This is the official Ubuntu channel.
[22:09] <Teddy8872> Where's the expert support here?
[22:09] <HexaChop> Speiros. Exact same thing as from CD.
[22:10] <HexaChop> Teddy8872, patience is key, buddy.
[22:10] <Speiros> HexaChop  Yeah, that's fair to say, but if I've never had the experience of practically doing it, then I can't teach it to anyone else with any confidence.
[22:10] <dsnyders> Teddy8872: http://losca.blogspot.ca/2013/11/workaround-for-setting-full-rgb-when.html might hold a clue.
[22:11] <lasersaber> HexaChop, might need to disable uefi and enable legacy in bios
[22:11] <HexaChop> Lasersaber, how to?
[22:12] <blomstertj> HexaChop: if you have Windows 10 installed try disabling quick boot from the Power Settings in Control Panel
[22:12] <blomstertj> or fast boot or something like that
[22:13] <lasersaber> HexaChop, when the computer turns on hold the f10 key or it might be the DEL key
[22:13] <lasersaber> should take you into bios
[22:13] <Teddy8872> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kX83s9qv3Go/UpWuoM3V_gI/AAAAAAAAA10/pAxc5KEwWtQ/s1600/haswell_rgb_limited_fullrange.jpg
[22:13] <Teddy8872> Wow. Look at the difference.
[22:13] <HexaChop> bloomsterj, it is disabled, Linux will be if at all in other HDD.
[22:13] <Teddy8872> Now why would RGB Limited ever be used? That's sick.
[22:13] <HexaChop> Lasersabee, I know how to enter bios
[22:13] <lasersaber> ok
[22:13] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: wow
[22:14] <blomstertj> HexaChop: what computer is it? a desktop?
[22:14] <lasersaber> HexaChop, also change the boot order and make usb boot first
[22:14] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, How to quickly check if the Ubuntu is using RGB Limited or Full?
[22:15] <HexaChop> Bloomstertj, desktop, yes. Lasersaber already done that.
[22:15] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: not sure really.
[22:15] <Speiros> Teddy8872 In what application?  I think it's Limited, as the colours aren't all there as a flowing pattern, but squares.
[22:15] <Speiros> For fonts at least.
[22:15] <Teddy8872> Speiros, Exactly. I want to be sure I am using RGB Full, not Limited.
[22:16] <Teddy8872> How do I quickly check and fix this?
[22:16] <lasersaber> HexaChop,  sudo apt install inxi && sudo apt install pastebinit
[22:16] <HexaChop> Lasersaber, i cant even start ubuntu
[22:16] <Speiros> Teddy8872 There is GIMP though, and I think that has the ability to use millions of colours.  No idea how to specifically check though.  Have you looked on the ubuntu wiki?
[22:17] <lasersaber> HexaChop, sorry lol
[22:17] <Teddy8872> Speiros, Yes, I've looked around.
[22:17] <HexaChop> Lasersaber, np, bro.
[22:17] <lasersaber> HexaChop, try it with a cd then?
[22:18] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/intel_graphics#Weathered_colors_.28color_range_problem.29
[22:18] <HexaChop> Lasersaber I tried multiple USBs and their combos.
[22:18] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, That's Arch Linux.
[22:18] <blomstertj> HexaChop: what did you use to make the USB?
[22:18] <Teddy8872> I use Ubuntu.
[22:18] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: It should still work
[22:18] <lasersaber> try using a cd instead
[22:18] <HexaChop> Blomsterj, rufus
[22:19] <merlin_> HP 15-ba022ng can i run linux on this notebook
[22:19] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, xrandr --output <HDMI> --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"
[22:19] <Teddy8872> I type this in the terminal?
[22:20] <HexaChop> Blomstertj, Rufus.
[22:20] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: This i believe xrandr --output HDMI --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"
[22:20] <Teddy8872> bash: HDMI: No such file or directory
[22:20] <Teddy8872> DP1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[22:20] <Teddy8872> HDMI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[22:20] <Teddy8872> HDMI2 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[22:21] <Teddy8872> Then I tried HDMI2
[22:21] <Teddy8872> still no such file or dir.
[22:22] <blomstertj> strange that works in my terminal
[22:22] <blomstertj> just tells me I don't have an HDMI device
[22:22] <blomstertj> because i don't
[22:22] <Phanes> Teddy8872, let's get a pastebin of your efforts
[22:22] <Phanes> something's not right
[22:23] <Teddy8872> Phanes, Paste what?
[22:23] <Phanes> Teddy8872, paste.silogroup.org -- copy and paste you running the command in a terminal
[22:24] <Teddy8872> Phanes, http://paste.silogroup.org/eromipuduw.rb
[22:25] <lasersaber> Teddy8872, sudo apt install hardinfo
[22:25] <Phanes> there we go
[22:25] <Phanes> check out line 1 Teddy8872
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[22:25] <Phanes> which wont be surrounded with <>
[22:25] <Teddy8872> So it should be HDMI2?
[22:26] <Teddy8872> Wow.
[22:26] <Teddy8872> I did that and my display improved dramatically.
[22:26] <Teddy8872> Amazing.
[22:26] <lasersaber> Teddy8872, run hardinfo and generate report then post info at paste.silogroup.org and share url
[22:26] <Teddy8872> xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"
[22:26] <Teddy8872> Here's what I typed.
[22:26] <Teddy8872> Try that on yours.
[22:26] <Phanes> just typine `xrandr` tells you what the device names should be Teddy8872
[22:27] <Teddy8872> Why wouldn't Broadcast RGB Full be the default?
[22:27] <Teddy8872> This is much better than before.
[22:27] <blomstertj> Well it seems it tries to use Auto
[22:27] <blomstertj> it must have used the wrong one
[22:27] <HexaChop> Blomstertj, Rufus, sir.
[22:27] <Phanes> Teddy8872, if the auto mode isn't working you'll very likely end up writing your own Xorg.conf
[22:27] <Teddy8872> Wow. It's as if I just upgraded my monitor to a top of the line model. What a beautiful difference.
[22:27] <blomstertj> HexaChop: Probably not that hten
[22:28] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: xrandr should show the exact HDMI thing you need mine is HDMI-0
[22:28] <HexaChop> Blomstertj what do you mean?
[22:28] <Teddy8872> Phanes, Why not just made RGB Full the default?
[22:28] <Teddy8872> Why would anyone want Limited?
[22:28] <blomstertj> HexaChop: Rufus works pretty well for me
[22:28] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: If that just worked for you you can just make it a startup application
[22:29] <Teddy8872> Phanes, I read a review that this monitor I am using doesn't like the HDMI, that the VGA is much more vibrant. It appears the user simply didn't realize that the VGA was using FULL while his HDMI was using Limited.
[22:29] <blomstertj> Making an xorg.conf file would be a better idea but i'm not sure how to do that
[22:29] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, You mean this is going to revert to Limited every time I reboot?
[22:29] <HexaChop> What are exact options you picked when you we're using Rufus, blomstertj?
[22:29] <HexaChop> Were*
[22:29] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: It might try to reboot and see what happens
[22:29] <Phanes> Teddy8872, you may want to get familiar with Xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log if you want that to be persistent cleanly
[22:29] <akik> Teddy8872: you can run xrandr commands from /etc/X11/Xsession.d
[22:30] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, BTW, why is my HDMI2 active but not HDMI1?
[22:30] <Teddy8872> Is that normal?
[22:30] <Phanes> no
[22:30] <Phanes> do not use Xsession.d for xrandr calls
[22:30] <KOLANICH> Hi all! Who can help me with launchpad API?
[22:30] <Teddy8872> I'm just going to type xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full" in the Terminal when my computer boots up.
[22:30] <akik> Phanes: what do you mean?
[22:30] <Teddy8872> That's not hard. I don't reboot all that often.
[22:30] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: probably depends on what port it is.
[22:31] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: a better solution would be to make a xorg.conf file and set that in there but i'm not sure how to do that
[22:31] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, BTW, what's the disadvantage of using RGB Full?
[22:31] <Teddy8872> I don't see why it wouldn't be the default unless there's a disadvantage I don't realize.
[22:31] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: I wouldn't think any problem would exist.  My monitor is on Full and has been for years
[22:32] <blomstertj> HexaChop: the defaults.  Do you have UEFI or BIOS?
[22:32] <basedmars> I have no programming background and this is the only thing that I could find KOLANICH https://help.launchpad.net/API.
[22:32] <KOLANICH> basedmars: I have also found that, but the API is a bit messy
[22:32] <blomstertj> HexaChop: I have an old school BIOS so I just kept it at MBR partition scheme, FAt32, default cluster size, and left everything else alone
[22:32] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, Well then, why not make Ubuntu default to Full?
[22:33] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: maybe some monitors don't work right? Probably some compatibility problem where ancient monitors can't do full.  Not sure exactly just guessing
[22:33] <HexaChop> Blomstertj UEFI
[22:33] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, I've been using my monitor for 12 months or so on Limited
[22:33] <Teddy8872> because I didn't know any better.
[22:34] <JiminyTodd2> Hello all ! I was wondering if I could install a program in Ubuntu which would allow me to explore what is actually contained on a mobile broadband usb dongle ?
[22:34] <blomstertj> HexaChop: make sure RUFUS was set to GPT
[22:34] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: yeah I don't blame you automatic should choose the best mode but i guess it didn't.  I have a NVIDIA card and it is set easily with the GUI
[22:34] <HexaChop> Blomstertj but will that make any difference?
[22:34] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, How do you set it with the GUI?
[22:35] <blomstertj> HexaChop: your motherboard might not be reading it as a bootable device so it's skipping it if you used MBR
[22:35] <basedmars> If you mean the JSON or the python dictionary, it seems okay in this document KOLANICH https://help.launchpad.net/API/Hacking
[22:35] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: The Intel drivers might give you a GUI but I'm not sure if it does or doesn't.  I'm using the proprietary drivers for my NVIDIA card so I have the NVIDIA control panel
[22:35] <HexaChop> Blomstertj my usb was detected fine and booted into usb but linux startup fails with this: http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[22:36] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, Where do you access that control panel?
[22:37] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: If you installed the Intel driver package from the website I gave you it might have some sort of Intel control panel installed.  If you didn't install that you won't have a GUI for managing it
[22:37] <rustyraptor> Hi I am trying to share an internet connection from my desktop to my ubuntu server. I made an ethernet profile on the desktop and set it to 'share to other computers' and reconnected ethernet. Now it seems connected and I can ping websites but it doesn't return anything. As in it detects the website but the website won't respond. What should I do n
[22:37] <rustyraptor> ext?
[22:37] <blomstertj> HexaChop: Not sure what that means.  Maybe a bad image of Ubuntu?
[22:37] <HexaChop> Exact same with mint
[22:37] <KOLANICH> basedmars: I don't need help anymore, I've found what I needed
[22:38] <KOLANICH> by experimenting with API
[22:38] <blomstertj> HexaChop: try another flash drive?
[22:38] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, Please again post the link.
[22:38] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: what version of ubuntu do you ahve? 16.04?
[22:38] <Teddy8872> The latest.
[22:38] <HexaChop> Basedmars, please help me, I am about to dump linux idea.
[22:39] <Teddy8872> I use Ubuntu MATE.
[22:39] <HexaChop> Blomstertj i tried with 2 different ones.
[22:39] <blomstertj> HexaChop: wow you have a stubborn computer.  You might have to try an old school DVD
[22:39] <Teddy8872> https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/16.10/main/pool/main/i/intel-graphics-update-tool/intel-graphics-update-tool_2.0.3_amd64.deb
[22:39] <Teddy8872> This is what I want?
[22:39] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: i believe so
[22:40] <HexaChop> Blomstertj seriously though, I've never seen this stubborn PC.
[22:40] <Teddy8872> It says when I run that:
[22:40] <basedmars> Yeah shoot it HexaChop . I would if I could
[22:40] <Teddy8872> ERROR: Dependency is not satisfiable: libpackagekit-glib2-18 (>=0.9.4)
[22:40] <Teddy8872> So I need that.
[22:40] <Teddy8872> Where do I get that?
[22:41] <HexaChop> Basedmars, that is the worst thing you have suggested me thus far.
[22:41] <lasersaber> !live
[22:41] <Speiros> lol
[22:41] <blomstertj> HexaChop: I have.  Some weird security setting on my laptop.  I had to like turn off a hard drive security setting then it rebooted and turned itself off then cleared some TPM thing then my flash showed up.
[22:41] <Speiros> basedmars Fair dinkum mate.  Isn't it cheaper to kick it?
[22:41] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: What does lsb_release -a in the terminal give you?
[22:42] <Teddy8872> No LSB modules are available.
[22:42] <Teddy8872> So now what?
[22:42] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: make sure to put the -a in
[22:42] <Speiros> HexaChop, can I suggest, if it is just a soundcard issue, to go back to 14.4/
[22:42] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, I did. I typed: lsb_release -a
[22:43] <HexaChop> Blomstertj my PC it's like it has a gag reflex or allergy to linux.
[22:43] <Speiros> HexaChop, then once you're used to the system, you'll be able to work on the other stuff that requires more work.
[22:43] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, http://paste.silogroup.org/zuriguqevi.css
[22:43] <HexaChop> Speiros, it just doesn't boot to ubuntu at all.
[22:43] <Teddy8872> ERROR: Dependency is not satisfiable: libpackagekit-glib2-18 (>=0.9.4) <--- where do I get this dependency and how?
[22:43] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: Okay you have 16.04 then so try this: https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/16.04/main/pool/main/i/intel-graphics-update-tool/intel-graphics-update-tool_2.0.2_amd64.deb
[22:44] <Speiros> HexaChop I thought it was just the soundcard.  Did you try turning it off, and holding f9 as it came on?
[22:44] <Teddy8872> ERROR: Dependency is not satisfiable: libpackagekit-glib2-18 (>=0.9.4) <--- where do I get this dependency and how?
[22:44] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, That's the error I get when I run that program.
[22:44] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: when you run that deb I just sent? Weird.  It should install it for you if it has it in the repos
[22:45] <HexaChop> No, I get this error when booting up. http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[22:45] <HexaChop> Speiros.
[22:45] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, Exaxctly. I get that error.
[22:45] <Teddy8872> So I need that dependency.
[22:45] <Teddy8872> Do you know how I can get it?
[22:46] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: Not sure
[22:46] <Speiros> HexaChop What is SPROM?
[22:46] <HexaChop> Speiros, I get this error when booting into Linux http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[22:46] <Teddy8872> https://mintguide.org/system/73-intel-linux-graphics-drivers-installer-for-linux.html
[22:47] <HexaChop> Speiros, I honestly don't know.
[22:47] <Teddy8872> Hello, there. When I run the installer, it says "Error: Dependcency not satisfiable: libpackagekit-glib2-18(>=0.9.4)
[22:47] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: I don't have that version in my repos.  I only have 2-16
[22:47] <Speiros> HexaChop Okay...so that is with Ubuntu on your harddrive,yes?
[22:47] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, I prob have the same version as you, since we're both using Ubuntu.
[22:47] <l0llip0p> Teddy8872: apt-get install pkg-name
[22:47] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, That's why the installer is not working.
[22:48] <HexaChop> Speiros, no. When booting ino USB/CD Ubuntu.
[22:48] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: I can open the deb I just sent you fine though
[22:48] <welovfree> hi
[22:48] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/16.04/main/pool/main/i/intel-graphics-update-tool/intel-graphics-update-tool_2.0.2_amd64.deb
[22:48] <lasersaber> BBL guys, bye! :)
[22:48] <welovfree> what's the name of the font used in terminal ?
[22:48] <welovfree> by default
[22:48] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, I am using Ubuntu MATE.
[22:49] <Speiros> HexaChop It might be your image you've downloaded maybe.  I couldn't burn my own, so I got a friend to burn it, and then I bought the disk for the 14.4 just to make sure.
[22:49] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, That one works..
[22:49] <l0llip0p> welovfree: you can see it from the settings of the terminal
[22:49] <Teddy8872> Why would that one work?
[22:49] <Speiros> HexaChop Unfortunately, I don't know much about the image either.
[22:49] <Teddy8872> I'm installing it now.
[22:49] <HexaChop> Speiros, I downloaded the torrent version.
[22:50] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: maybe you clicked hte wrong one? That's the one for 16.04 not 16.10
[22:50] <welovfree> l0llip0p, thanks
[22:50] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, What happens if I use the one for 16.04 on my 16.10?
[22:50] <welovfree>  /leave
[22:50] <Teddy8872> The one for 16.10 won't install for me.
[22:50] <Speiros> HexaChop I don't know mate.  I'm only guessing, based on past experience that failed me.
[22:50] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: according to the terminal command you have 16.04.1
[22:50] <Teddy8872> Oh.
[22:50] <Teddy8872> No wonder.
[22:51] <tchnq> Guys. Does UnityDock(and search) index the files in some possible config file?
[22:51] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, How come I don't have the latest Ubuntu?
[22:51] <Teddy8872> I've been updating my Ubuntu MATE religiously.
[22:51] <Speiros> HexaChop I don't even know how to check an image is downloaded correctly onto a disk.
[22:52] <Speiros> HexaChop...I mean a bootable image.
[22:52] <basedmars> you could check for sha256 for the iso
[22:52] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: 16.04.1 is the LTS version.  16.10 is the not LTS and those versions are newer but slightly less stable.  If you want to upgrade to the latest Ubuntu version you can change that in Software & Updates.  But right now after it's installed find Intel Graphics Tool
[22:52] <k1l_> tchnq: its a database. it uses zeitgeist
[22:52] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, OK. I'm fine using the latest LTS.
[22:52] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: Run that and see if it gives you an Intel control panel at the end.  I don't know if it will or not.
[22:52] <Speiros> basedmars Can that help HexaChop maybe?
[22:52] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: Since I'm not an Intel user
[22:52] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, Right now it's downloading additional package files. It looks like it will take about 20 minutes.
[22:53] <basedmars> Yeah, it could be a corrupted iso problem Speiros
[22:53] <HexaChop> Speiros It's midnight and still I am trying to solve this.
[22:53] <Teddy8872> LTS = superior stability.
[22:53] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: Okay well I have to go.  Good luck.  If you don't have a contorl panel to set it.  If your monitor goes to Limited after a reboot just make that xrandr command as a startup app.
[22:53] <HexaChop> LTS = Long Term Support
[22:54] <Speiros> HexaChop Yeah, it's frustrating.  Checking whether the image you've got is not corrupted is a good idea though.  Even if you want to come back after a sleep.
[22:54] <HexaChop> Speiros, I will sit until 4AM.
[22:54] <basedmars> command is 'sha256sum ubuntu.iso' HexaChop
[22:54] <Teddy8872> Additional package files dl is about 40% complete.
[22:54] <HexaChop> Basedmars, where to enter that code?
[22:55] <blomstertj> HexaChop: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1034762
[22:55] <basedmars> In the terminal or command line or ctrl+alt+t HexaChop
[22:55] <blomstertj> HexaChop: You may have to boot the installer with advanced options
[22:55] <basedmars> wait aren't you the guy who posted the imgur earlier HexaChop ?
[22:55] <HexaChop> Blomstertj advanced options?
[22:56] <HexaChop> Basedmars the same. http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[22:56] <blomstertj> HexaChop: trying to remember what the installer looks like
[22:57] <HexaChop> Blomstertj it's very purple. Lol.
[22:57] <basedmars> Oh you didn't get to the console actually HexaChop . blomstertj link is pretty much spot on
[22:58] <blomstertj> HexaChop: I think you have to start the installer and when it tells you Try Ubuntu, Install ubuntu, etc you have to press F6 Other Options
[22:58] <tchnq> It's making me mad! Why does Unity Search gives me "Google Chrome Hangouts" when it was already deleted from Chrome? How can I fix it?
[22:58] <HexaChop> Blomstertj I did that 3 times actually
[22:59] <blomstertj> HexaChop: Sounds to me you need to boot the installer with noacpi=1"
[23:00] <HexaChop> Let's try, if this fixes it, blomstertj, I will go shouting from the rooftops.
[23:01] <basedmars> Is this ubuntu already installed on the drive, or on live usb?
[23:02] <HexaChop> Btw, blomstertj, what that command does?
[23:02] <nope_> another234234234
[23:02] <Guest67406> br
[23:02] <Guest67406> alguem  br
[23:03] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, I just installed the intel graphics update tool.
[23:03] <Teddy8872> Now how do I launch it?
[23:04] <basedmars> You could try editing it on grub menu GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash noacpi". based on the forum suggestion HexaChop. Go to grub menu. On ubuntu press e. Then edit as you will then press f10.
[23:04] <blomstertj> HexaChop: I believe it turns off acpi which is for newer hard drives and computers.  Not sure what ACPI really does though
[23:04] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, I launched it now my typing that in the terminal.
[23:04] <blomstertj> basedmars: I believe he can't even get the installer to boot
[23:04] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: the Intel Graphics Tool will be in your list of applications
[23:05] <blomstertj> not sure where on MATE
[23:05] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, What benefits do I get from updating these Intel graphics?
[23:05] <basedmars> from the doc blomstertj "ACPI implementation might cause some problems (for instance random reboots or system lockups)"
[23:05] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: It might give you an Intel Control Panel of sorts.
[23:05] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: keyword, might
[23:06] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: If it does it should allow you to change your monitor settings easier and keep them
[23:06] <Speiros> HexaChop How's it going mate?
[23:06] <l0llip0p> tchnq: just let it be for while, I think it will go away
[23:06] <HexaChop> Speiros, not OK as of yet, mate.
[23:06] <Speiros> HexaChop ok.
[23:07] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, It's installing now. We'll see.
[23:07] <HexaChop> Blomstertj, no luck.
[23:07] <HexaChop> Thanks for asking, Speiros.
[23:07] <l0llip0p> tchnq: I had same kind of problem with one icon but it has gone now.
[23:07] <blomstertj> HexaChop: you might need it to be acpi=off
[23:07] <rustyraptor> nvm guys fixed it.
[23:08] <HexaChop> Blomstertj did it already.
[23:08] <blomstertj> HexaChop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[23:09] <HexaChop> I can't even reach that window., blomstertj.
[23:10] <blomstertj> HexaChop: Ubuntu CD Advanced Welcome Page Options > F6 > use arrow keys to select acpi=off and press enter
[23:10] <blomstertj> HexaChop: If that doesn't help you, I'm at a loss
[23:10] <basedmars> Those cli 'gui' are a lifesaver. No more mucking around just select it
[23:11] <HexaChop> Blomstertj, instead of that window, it gives me this: http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[23:11] <blomstertj> HexaChop: You can't even get to the menu that says Install ubuntu, Try Ubuntu before installing? Wow
[23:11] <blomstertj> HexaChop: It looks like it's complaining about a hard drive/ssd
[23:12] <blomstertj> HexaChop: Either it's a message that isn't true or it's telling you that you hard disk is dead or messed up
[23:12] <HexaChop> Blomstertj it shows try and install ubuntu but in that purple environment, not as a window.
[23:12] <blomstertj> HexaChop: yeah that's where you want to press F6
[23:12] <blomstertj> HexaChop: and select acpi=off from the list that should pop up
[23:13] <blomstertj> HexaChop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Boot-F6-Other.png
[23:13] <HexaChop> I did the acpi thingy, blomstertj.
[23:13] <basedmars> tell me it's working
[23:14] <HexaChop> Wrong.
[23:14] <blomstertj> HexaChop: I mean you could try every option on there lol.  You sure the hard drive isn't dead or almost dead?
[23:14] <HexaChop> Blomstertj aure not, otherwise I'd had to change all 7 of my hard drives.
[23:14] <blomstertj> HexaChop: oh my, you could try and unplug every one except the one you want to install to
[23:15] <HexaChop> Blomstertj, tried that too to no luck.
[23:15] <basedmars> So how is this hard drive. Like what year and the partition of it if you know. I'm curious about it by now since acpi problems are found on dead 2008 ubuntu thread
[23:15] <blomstertj> HexaChop: I'm out of ideas. Sorry
[23:16] <HexaChop> Blomstertj know that I simply love your support here. Highly appreciated, mate, Speiros and basedmars, too. :)
[23:16] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: how is it going?
[23:16] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, Still installing.
[23:16] <Teddy8872> Says downloading stuff.
[23:16] <Teddy8872> My connection is a bit slow.
[23:17] <Speiros> HexaChop Sorry I can't do much to help mate.  I really don't know what to do.  It's frustrating when things aren't working out.
[23:17] <Teddy8872> I'm using a VPN. I could disconnect from the VPN and install directly but I'm already doing it this way so I'll just wait an hour or so.
[23:17] <HexaChop> It seems like my PC won, Speiros, Blomstertj, basedmars.
[23:17] <HexaChop> Spieros, true.
[23:18] <k1l_> HexaChop: so you tried ubuntu 16.10? and the usb works?
[23:18] <Speiros> HexaChop This is how I was with the soundcard issue at the time.
[23:18] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, BTW, my eyesight has been degraded since I looked at an invisible trackball laser while trying to clean my trackball while thinking it was unplugged when it wasn't.
[23:18] <HexaChop> K1| Yup to all.
[23:19] <k1l_> and what was the issue with the working 16.10 usb?
[23:19] <HexaChop> Spieros I bet. So frustrating that you'd be better off jumping out a plane without a parachute.
[23:19] <blomstertj> Teddy8872: huh.  Good luck though.  If it doesn't work just use xrandr to set it.  xrandr can do a lot of options
[23:20] <HexaChop> K1|, http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu.
[23:20] <HexaChop> http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[23:20] <k1l_> HexaChop: on booting the usb?
[23:20] <Teddy8872> blomstertj, I removed the ball on my trackball and I was looking right at the invisible laser. I didn't realize it was on.
[23:20] <k1l_> does the usb work on another pc/laptop?
[23:20] <stevwills> hello everyone
[23:20] <k1l_> did you try another usb port?
[23:21] <HexaChop> K1|_, it works always, just unable to get past this: http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[23:22] <Speiros> HexaChop From when you turn the computer on, how many "screens" does it go through to reach that message?
[23:23] <stevwills> i just got banned by #archlinux :(
[23:23] <k1l_> HexaChop: this is a pc? does it have a dvd/cd/blueray drive?
[23:23] <HexaChop> K1_|, yup.
[23:23] <basedmars> They might not appreciate you using ubuntu distro and asking support from archlinux room stevwills . I'm guessing
[23:23] <k1l_> HexaChop: can you disable the dvd drive in bios. and (if that doesnt solve it) unplug the dvd drive?
[23:23] <HexaChop> Speiros, right after ubuntu purple screen, after try ubuntu is activated.
[23:24] <Speiros> HexaChop Ok...frustrating.
[23:24] <HexaChop> K1_| lemme try.
[23:24] <HexaChop> Speiros, alot.
[23:24] <blomstertj> HexaChop: I'm surprised you haven't given up and said Windows is better
[23:25] <blomstertj> HexaChop: That's what I think most people's reaction would be
[23:25] <Speiros> blomstertj  Not I mate:)
[23:25] <HexaChop> K1_| It is already disables in bios.
[23:25] <blomstertj> but I guess when every computer sold has windows preinstalled you get these problems unless you buy a linux desktop/laptop
[23:25] <Speiros> blomstertj For me "Windows" refers to the thing you throw computers out of with microsoft on it.
[23:25] <HexaChop> Blomstertj I have a huge will when I want something.
[23:26] <blomstertj> HexaChop: same here
[23:26] <basedmars> I would at this point. 1 hour is usually the time I gave up on something
[23:26] <k1l_> HexaChop: it might be worth a try first to set "nouveau.modeset=0" as kernel parameter on booting
[23:27] <blomstertj> My desktop will boot anything.  My laptop is a pain but it's an HP Elitebook
[23:27] <blomstertj> so tons of "security" "features"
[23:27] <HexaChop> Basedmars, I passed 12hour mark already.
[23:27] <HexaChop> K1|_ done that, too.
[23:27] <tchnq> Well. I tried to reset icons in unity dock (nofix), delete chrome configs (nofix), purge chrome and install it (nofix), what can I try more?
[23:27] <basedmars> All consumer machine for the past 10 year would boot up nicely I think for ubuntu and derivatives. performance is vary
[23:28] <tchnq> As well as "clean unity search"(nofix)
[23:28] <k1l_> tchnq: fix for what?
[23:30]  * tchnq better do some pushups instead of trying to fix this unbelievable bugs in ubuntu
[23:30] <Speiros> HexaChop You're demonstrating your patience well mate:)  It's a good quality to have.  I could learn a few things from it.
[23:30] <k1l_> tchnq: have you installed webapps ?
[23:30] <Speiros> tchnq Hi mate.  What do you mean regarding resetting icons?
[23:30] <HexaChop> Basedmars, blomstertj, Speiros, this is so frustrating, it is killing my brain cells at an alarming rate.
[23:31] <k1l_> tchnq: did you look at the launcher config?
[23:31] <HexaChop> Speiros, Thank You, mate. :)
[23:31] <Teddy8872> blomsterj quit.
[23:31] <stevwills> worth the laughts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI
[23:31] <Teddy8872> Why did he quit?
[23:31] <HexaChop> Speiros, you are inspiring.
[23:31] <Speiros> HexaChop  Yes, it would be.  Maybe get a cup of coffee/tea?
[23:32] <Speiros> HexaChop Thanks man...my ex-wife might disagree:D
[23:32] <HexaChop> It is midnight, I would kinda ruin my sleepcycle, Speiros.
[23:32] <k1l_> tchnq: better answer in here so others can look at it and can give their solutions, too
[23:32] <wikeeks> Wowe
[23:32] <k1l_> stevwills: please keep this channel for technical support. #ubuntu-offtopic is for other chatter.
[23:32] <HexaChop> Speiros no wonder why she is EX Wife.
[23:33] <Speiros> lol, yeah.
[23:33] <tchnq> k1l_, sorry, was that a private answer? Yes, I've installed once an extension in google chrome called "hangouts" and since that moment I have this bug.
[23:33] <k1l_> tchnq: did you remove that webapp?
[23:33] <wikeeks> Guys am I gay
[23:34] <Speiros> wikeeks Do you use Ubuntu?
[23:34] <tchnq> k1l_, Yes. But the unity search and dock remembered once and forever "Google Chrome" as "Google Chrome Hangouts"; I haven't looked for a config.
[23:34] <HexaChop> Anyways, if anything comes up, Speiros, tell me. I will send you my either social media or Skype to your PMs maybe.
[23:34] <tchnq> Speiros, Unity Dock icons
[23:34] <l0llip0p> tchnq: Have cleared your unity history?
[23:34] <tchnq> l0llip0p, Yes, I've tried that - no help
[23:35] <Speiros> HexaChop I don't have skype, but yeah, for sure:)
[23:35] <k1l_> tchnq: you could look at the launcher starter config. maybe the name got changed by the hangouts install
[23:35] <tchnq> k1l_, can you give me a tip how to check that?
[23:36] <HexaChop> Speiros, skype is not like installin linux, mate. :) :D
[23:36] <ddquestion> Anyone here?
[23:36] <ddquestion> Or is this dead too?
[23:36] <l0llip0p> ddquestion: here we are
[23:36] <k1l_> tchnq: look at /usr/share/applications or ~/.local/share/applications
[23:37] <ddquestion> could i get a bit of a hand please?
 can i get a lil help please [09:35] <ddquestion> i have started a dd and cant remember the command to pull up how far into it it is, cant  even think of search query for google [09:35] <ddquestion> Well ive found something that might work, can someone double check it please? [09:35] <ddquestion> watch -n5 'sudo kill -USR1 $(pgrep ^dd)' [09:36] <ddquestion> Does that look good enough?
[23:37] <ddquestion> bugger
[23:38] <k1l_> ddquestion: you want to look at a running dd for monitoring?
[23:38] <ddquestion> I have started a DD  and i forgot to put the command in to give me updates on the way. Is there a good command that will tell you how much has been copied across withot stopping the copy?
[23:39] <k1l_> ddquestion: "sudo kill -USR1 $(pgrep ^dd) "  will work in a new terminal
[23:39] <ddquestion> i am copying from HD1 -> HD2, i used iostat, that gives me whats going on at this second, but not overall completeion/data copied
[23:39] <k1l_> if you want an update every 5 seconds " watch -n5 'sudo kill -USR1 $(pgrep ^dd)' " will work
[23:39] <ddquestion> thanks mate
[23:40] <ddquestion> appreciate it
[23:40] <tchnq> k1l_, Yes. I've checked it - the name was wrong. I've changed it on "Google Chrome" but in Unity Search and on the panel it still shows me wrong name. Should I restart ubuntu?
[23:41] <tchnq> k1l_, the name of the icon is correct.
[23:42] <k1l_> tchnq: yes, a relogin could solve that
[23:42] <ddquestion> Thanks Thanks for your help k1l_
[23:42] <tchnq> k1l_, Do you mean simply to log out from useracc and then log back in?
[23:43] <tchnq> k1l_, Let me completely restart it
[23:43] <k1l_> tchnq: log out from desktop. that will close the unity session and start a new one on relogin
[23:45] <HexaChop> K1L, I will go rest now, please send me a pm so I could contact you when I wake up, friend.
[23:45] <k1l_> HexaChop: did you try to disable the dvd drive?
[23:46] <sandro> hi all. i'm trying to setup encrypted 3-linux multiboot. grub config seems elusively tricky. still, not giving up on the idea it can be done. any ideas how? thanks!
[23:46] <HexaChop> I am very tired, I did on my BIOS, but not physically.
[23:47] <HexaChop> K1, please PM me so I could contact you. Goodnight, mate.
[23:47] <k1l_> HexaChop: ok. just ask in here with the details of what is actually not working and people will try to help. i dont know if i am online then
[23:47] <basedmars> 12 hours will wear anyone
[23:47] <aruns> Sometimes it's because we should have made the foundation of the website or app from the get go in a certain way.
[23:47] <HexaChop> basedmars, 13, actually. Yeah, it will...
[23:47] <tchnq> k1l_, Well, now we are talking.... :P Mate, you are savior! Thanks a lot!!!!
[23:47] <aruns> Other times, it's because client keeps on changing requirements.
[23:47] <Speiros> HexaChop Rest well man:)
[23:48] <k1l_> tchnq: np
[23:48] <HexaChop> Thanks, Speiros :).
[23:48] <aruns> Main problem with this game is mission repetitiveness.
[23:48] <HexaChop> K1l_ you can PM me at any time so I could contact you. Every help would mean lots to me.
[23:48] <basedmars> I hope ubuntu will fix this somehow in the next lts release. Very outdated 'bug' so to speak
[23:48] <tchnq> k1l_, If you just could know, how much time was spent on this bug....I had it for two months. I even stopped using Ubuntu being dismoraled by this... )
[23:49] <HexaChop> Basedmara, what so you mean?
[23:49] <HexaChop> Basedmars, what do you mean?
[23:49] <k1l_> tchnq: i dont know about that bug. it was just a thought of a possible cause and so that solution.
[23:51] <HexaChop> This whole community is my friend for sure. Thank You everyone, despite the fact that I didn't solve my issue. It was still highly appreciated.
[23:51] <basedmars> I mean this bug is reported in 2008. Nearly a decade ago HexaChop. Anyway you should sleep :|
[23:51] <tchnq> k1l_, All the best wishes, mate!
[23:51] <tchnq> best wishes to all who tried to help me with this issue.
[23:51] <Speiros> basedmars Is it the same problem as back then?
[23:52] <ddquestion> does "cat" in linux copy bit for bit like dd does? Or is it just for replicating files?
[23:52] <basedmars> Could be. The screen log shows that much. I might be wrong Speiros
[23:53] <Speiros> basedmars It's a positive in one way if that's the case, as it can be recorded incrementally, and all these solutions can be streamlined to highlight the one that works.
[23:53] <Speiros> Then it can be entered as a page in the wiki, or wikis even.
[23:54] <HexaChop> Spiros, send this link to people. Maybe someone will know what to do. http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[23:54] <Speiros> HexaChop The problem will be that people will want to help me with it, when I can't confirm or deny whether a step would work or not.
[23:55] <Speiros> HexaChop That being because it isn't me who's performing it on the computer.
[23:55] <basedmars> Maybe it would be helpful to the ubuntu devel team if we report this bug. I've never done bug reporting before. Not really a productive member here
[23:56] <HexaChop> True that... Spiros. That is obvious. I mean you couls try logging steps but it wouldn't work out... OK, tomorrow morning then we shall fix this problem and get my stubborn pc to work.
[23:56] <Speiros> basedmars All positive input is useful.  Even if it's supporting people, that is still an essential part of being a team member.
[23:57] <basedmars> Yeah that is true
[23:57] <HexaChop> True dat, Spiros.
[23:57] <Speiros> HexaChop Sure man.  The folks here will help get you past it.
[23:58] <HexaChop> I hope so, Speiros. It might break me if it was another 12 hours.
[23:58] <Speiros> basedmars Learning a little along the way means before you know it, you both know the answers, and can help people when they are frayed from stressing, burning out, etc.
[23:59] <Speiros> HexaChop All good.  Get some rest mate.  You need it:)
[23:59] <HexaChop> I will let tou guys know if I fix this and post the solution. Thank You. Goodnight friends. :)