[01:44] <Bluefoxicy> ok, it looks like xrdp doesn't build x11rdp in the current package.
[03:11] <Bluefoxicy> There.  I've suggested just getting wayland-rdp built and using that instead of x11rdp.  That should work.
[08:54] <cjwatson> fossfreedom: blacklist> sort of; it's at least very much less useful than people assume it is
[08:55] <cjwatson> fossfreedom: you have to think about this in terms of what apt will do, really
[08:55] <cjwatson> fossfreedom: for purposes of putting images together, germinate ends up basically having to predict the behaviour of apt, and apt is definitely not going to have the slightest idea about seed blacklist files
[08:58] <cjwatson> fossfreedom: the best that a blacklist can ever do is remove things roughly on the level of directly-seeded entries, not dependencies
[08:59] <cjwatson> valbr: you'd need to be a lot more specific - there are plenty of Canonical employees here, but that doesn't mean that any engineer is going to be able to be a spokesperson for the company on any given issue ...
[09:17] <valbr> cjwatson: I understand, I was looking for an internship, but as I understand correctly this is not possible by Canonical. which is sad in my opinion
[09:17] <valbr> therefore I was looking for an employee to get a better picture of what is possible and what not
[09:17] <valbr> as the site itself did not give much information about this topic
[09:20] <cjwatson> OK, I doubt I can help with that; anything I think I know would probably be outdated/wrong and I don't want to mislead you
[09:21] <cjwatson> isn't there an email contact on the website somewhere?
[09:22] <cjwatson> (since this is the sort of thing HR would be best-placed to answer, but they don't tend to hang out on #ubuntu* IRC)
[10:11] <fossfreedom> cjwatson: thanks for the info re the blacklist file. Is there another hook somewhere where we can post install of the meta package remove packages.  The reason for the question - there is a lot of dross in the ISO which we could remove to slim the ISO down
[10:27] <cjwatson> fossfreedom: you're going to have to refactor this some
[10:28] <cjwatson> fossfreedom: for example you could turn off recommends for certain seeds (which would need a paired change in livecd-rootfs) and only list the recommends you need
[11:08] <fossfreedom> cjwatson: interesting.  Are you aware if Ubuntu itself or another community flavour have done this themselves? - probably wiser to reuse where we can.
[11:58] <valbr> cjwatson: I sended them an email, so I will wait, but I am not sure if it will end up with the right person or not
[11:58] <valbr> I sended to the PR email and the customer service department we will see
[12:34] <cjwatson> fossfreedom: It's the sort of thing Lubuntu has done IIRC
[12:34] <cjwatson> valbr: They can hopefully at least pass it on to somebody appropriate
[14:20] <Bluefoxicy> good crap I forgot how much of a pain this is.
[14:20]  * Bluefoxicy alters the weston-1.9.0 package to build a weston-rdp-compositor package, touches up the changelog, and makes a diff.
[14:21] <Bluefoxicy> >_< and it fails to build!
[14:32] <Bluefoxicy> omg.  freerdp in debian sid is from like 2014.  Okay.
[14:53] <Bluefoxicy> ok, need to request a pull of freerdp2 from Debian I think?
[15:22] <Bluefoxicy> nope, it's already in zesty.  Just need to modify the zesty package and submit a patch
[15:45] <Bluefoxicy> Does anyone know how I can bring up a greeter in an Xsession and log in as a regular user?
[19:22] <Bluefoxicy> I have no clue what I'm doing, so I have a patch on top of whatever `apt-get source` produces that `dpkg-buildpackage -b` spits out correct binaries
[23:03] <Bluefoxicy> okay, I've produced the patch as a debdiff now.  It's smaller for no reason I can ascertain.