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Speiros	Goodnight mate:)	00:00
basedmars	Goodnight	00:00
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Reddiy98i	Hi folks.	00:00
Reddiy98i	How do I install updates from UNTRUSTED sources?	00:00
Reddiy98i	It won't let me..	00:00
k1l_	Reddiy98i: what is the error? put it into paste.ubuntu.com please	00:00
Speiros	Hi Reddiy98i:)	00:01
Reddiy98i	k1l_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23761237/	00:01
Reddiy98i	When I click OK it doens't do anything.	00:01
Reddiy98i	I want to install the packages.	00:01
Reddiy98i	There's a settings tab to the left I must have to click and configure.	00:01
k1l_	Reddiy98i: can you use apt on terminal? "sudo apt update" and then "sudo apt install <packagename>"? and show that on paste.ubuntu.com? (close the software center first)	00:02
k1l_	Reddiy98i: or what packages are we talking about? do you have .deb pacakges there?	00:03
Reddiy98i	It's from the Software Update.	00:03
Reddiy98i	I got these untrusted package updates since I updated my Intel drivers.	00:03
Reddiy98i	This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources.	00:04
Reddiy98i	Then I click OK and nothing updates.	00:04
Dreaman	no key	00:04
Reddiy98i	But there's a Settings... option I can click	00:04
Reddiy98i	I must need to config that to let me install untrusted updates	00:05
k1l_	Reddiy98i: can you please use the terminal as i asked you? that gives better context and errormessages	00:05
Reddiy98i	do you know how I do that?	00:05
Reddiy98i	OK, one moment.	00:05
Speiros	Charles1st No, I don't believe there ever was a movie about you.	00:05
basedmars	ddquestion, if you mean bit by bit using the bs and count flag then no. Cat is faster but I wouldn't trust it to make a swapfile for example. Dd is more accurate based on various resources on the net.	00:05
Reddiy98i	k1l_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23761250/	00:06
Speiros	Dreaman What key mate? I presume you don't mean you looked under the mat?	00:06
Speiros	Sorry, that charles1st comment was for a different room:D	00:07
Reddiy98i	k1l_, Can you figure out what I am to do?	00:07
Reddiy98i	Wow.	00:07
Reddiy98i	I just typed xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"	00:07
Dreaman	Reddiy98i parameters your mashine	00:08
Reddiy98i	And the improvement was dramatic.	00:08
Reddiy98i	That means my RGB FULL is being reset every time I reboot.	00:08
k1l_	Reddiy98i: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 56A3DEF863961D39	00:08
Phanes	can this be trimmed down any further? hoping to build a little tool that will list displays for users like the one we saw earlier: http://paste.silogroup.org/oluxuhagiz.rb	00:09
Reddiy98i	k1l_, Fantastic.	00:09
Reddiy98i	You solved it. Now I am fully upgraded/updated.	00:10
Reddiy98i	k1l_, How do I get the RGB = FULL to stick so it doesn't reset to limited every time I reboot?	00:10
Reddiy98i	How do I access my Intel graphics GPU/	00:10
Reddiy98i	?	00:10
Speiros	Good work k1l_:)	00:10
k1l_	Reddiy98i: put that into a /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ file	00:12
Reddiy98i	xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"	00:12
Reddiy98i	This is what I type to make my RGB = FULL, so this is what needs to go in there.	00:12
Phanes	dont use Xsession.d	00:12
Phanes	that isn't what that's for	00:13
Phanes	that's for launching applications with X	00:13
Speiros	I hate it when it's really late on a Saturday night, and a beer sounds good, and then you realise you don't have a Pubkey.	00:13
k1l_	Reddiy98i: yes, but use fullpath for xrandr. so use "/usr/bin/xrandr" there	00:13
Phanes	what you're looking for is Xorg configuration	00:13
Phanes	you need to build a Xorg.conf to do that right	00:14
akik	Phanes: that's exactly what xrandr is	00:14
Phanes	yes but thats not where you call it. xrandr is not for persistent changes	00:14
akik	Phanes: you shouldn't tell people not to use it	00:14
gptssddual	Hi, booted from a pendrive, Ubuntu 16.04.1 64. I want to install beside my existing Win10 on a gpt fmt SSD	00:14
Phanes	i should because i know their use cases	00:14
Reddiy98i	So what is the best way to program a persistent change?	00:14
gptssddual	I get the warning in gparted: “physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512”	00:15
Phanes	Xsession.d is for 'launch this application in my unique unsupported use case', Xorg.conf is where you make persistent changes like that	00:15
akik	Phanes: so how do you configure xorg.conf snippet for that xrandr command?	00:15
Phanes	newer Xorg won't have a Xorg.conf as they want to autodetect stuff, so you'll want to create the file	00:15
Phanes	akik, you can use mine as a template: http://paste.silogroup.org/idayegapoz.vbs	00:16
Reddiy98i	Phanes, So what shall I do?	00:16
Phanes	Reddiy98i, see above	00:17
Reddiy98i	Phanes, Your link? If I use that I'm going to have some probs.	00:17
Reddiy98i	You have nVidia graphics, for one. I have Intel.	00:17
Phanes	right you'll want to edit it for your display configuration	00:17
akik	Phanes: i don't have that problem. i'm using Xsession.d	00:17
Phanes	the names and resolution and placement is what you'd care about	00:17
k1l_	Phanes: this specific setting cant be set in xorg.conf. so your advise doesnt help.	00:18
k1l_	Reddiy98i: use my method. it wont hurt but will run that command on every gui login.	00:18
Phanes	there is not a setting that xrandr has that xorg does not have.	00:18
gptssddual	I need help installing ubuntu 16.0.4.1 on a gpt SSD	00:18
Phanes	k1l_, not accurate	00:19
Dreaman	gptssddual why not 16.10	00:19
Speiros	gptssddual Hello mate:) Someone will be able to help you shortly.	00:19
serdar	hello	00:19
Reddiy98i	k1l_, /usr/bin/xrandr	00:19
Reddiy98i	What will using this full path accomplish vs xrandr?	00:19
k1l_	Phanes: i am happy if you look up that setting and how to get it work in xorg.conf. but so long you cant prove it i named a working solution without sideeffects.	00:19
gptssddual	Dreaman, because I need a stable system, I chose LTS	00:20
serdar	my X is loading the wrong libglx and wrong nvidia_drv, how can I change this_	00:20
Reddiy98i	Like this? /usr/bin/xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"	00:20
Phanes	k1l_, ill start looking around for it, do you have his hardware profile	00:20
gptssddual	Speiros, thanks for the kind words :-)	00:20
Reddiy98i	That doesn't do anything.	00:20
k1l_	Reddiy98i: in scripts its better to go with fullpath and not rely on shortened paths.	00:20
Dreaman	gptssddual ssd driver in 16.04	00:20
Reddiy98i	k1l_, How come when I put that in the terminal it does nothing?	00:20
Reddiy98i	WHen I use this it works: xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"	00:21
Dreaman	not see a hdd ssd	00:21
Dreaman	:)	00:21
basedmars	Is it already in mbr?	00:21
Phanes	k1l_, this is a driver option so it's already a little flaky but let's try this first: http://paste.silogroup.org/odaxubosar.vbs	00:21
gptssddual	Dreaman, oh, I see the SSD alright, but I get an ominous warning in gparted: “physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512	00:21
Dreaman	my laptop work	00:21
k1l_	Reddiy98i: "/usr/bin/xrandr --version" does this work?	00:22
Dreaman	ssd is win 10 and 1 tb of hdd 100 gb is ubuntu	00:22
serdar	can I remove this without issues? xserver-xorg-core	00:22
Reddiy98i	k1l_, Yes.	00:22
Reddiy98i	xrandr program version 1.5.0	00:22
Reddiy98i	Server reports RandR version 1.5	00:22
basedmars	press ignore gptssddual	00:22
Speiros	gptssddual All good mate. Hopefully your issue will be resolved.	00:22
nicomachus	serdar: no.	00:22
Phanes	ehm, actually that should go in the Device section	00:22
k1l_	Reddiy98i: so does the other command. but it doesnt change something since its already changed	00:22
Reddiy98i	k1l_, You're right.	00:23
Reddiy98i	It only works if the change can be made. if it's already changed it does nothing.	00:23
Reddiy98i	Interesting.	00:23
serdar	darn	00:23
Reddiy98i	OK, so I need to put this in the persistent file: /usr/bin/xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"	00:23
Reddiy98i	Which file?	00:23
serdar	it provides a libglx.so which is used by xorg	00:23
gptssddual	basedmars, do you know the cause for that warning? I had a long install time installing two other OS'es (one of which is Windows) on the SSD so I don; t want to waste my work, that's why :-)	00:24
serdar	instead it should load this /usr/lib/nvidia-375/xorg/libglx.so	00:24
k1l_	Reddiy98i: create a new on in the named folder. like 41-fullrgb	00:24
Reddiy98i	k1l_, in etc X11 Xsession.d?	00:25
basedmars	I use a gpt which converted from mbr gptssddual . That could be the cause of it	00:25
gptssddual	basedmars, If I know know the cause of the warning and why I can ignore it, I would be reassured.	00:25
Reddiy98i	k1l_, Do you know why full RGB is not enabled by default?	00:25
k1l_	gptssddual: that warning could be shown, since the ubuntu-live-usb has a different sector size on the usb and on the "burned" .iso file used	00:25
k1l_	Reddiy98i: yes in that folder.	00:26
k1l_	Reddiy98i: i dont know. maybe your monitor is seen as tv, which do have that settings	00:26
Reddiy98i	k1l_, Why do you say call it 41-fullrbg?	00:26
Reddiy98i	What's the 41 for?	00:26
k1l_	Reddiy98i: the .d folder is run through by a script which starts the files with commands after their numbering.	00:27
k1l_	Reddiy98i: same goes for grub.d folder. or motd.d folders etc.	00:27
basedmars	That warning is a must I think, since we're dealing with hard disk partition table and the partition itself here. It could lead to data loss if done uncorrectly, hence warning are useful	00:27
gptssddual	k1l_, ah, so gparted would stick wth the size reported by the ISO and not overwrite things it should not? Currently when I lookup my NFS partitions in gfdisk, they all show up as type 83 linux, with misaligned cylinders.	00:27
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gptssddual	^ NFS -> NTFS	00:28
Reddiy98i	k1l_, I'm in that folder now and it won't let me create a new document.	00:28
Reddiy98i	Why is that?	00:28
gptssddual	k1l_, that made me a bit worried to press on and potentially ruin the present installs...	00:28
Phanes	k1l_, for future reference: https://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/man/man4/intel.4.html \| it may be called "LVDS24Bit" instead of "Broadcast RGB" as a device section item though, i can't test without his hardware	00:29
k1l_	Reddiy98i: since its system folders you need admin permissions. use nano: "sudo nano /etc/X11/Xsession.d/41-fullrgb" then paste it into nano. then press ctrl+o for saving, and then ctrl+x for leaving	00:29
Reddiy98i	k1l_, What is your role on the Ubuntu team?	00:30
Reddiy98i	k1l_, Phanes was saying you had something wrong.	00:31
k1l_	Reddiy98i: just supporter and irc operator.	00:31
gptssddual	basedmars, thank you for the explanation.	00:31
Dreaman	k1l_ nervious and lame :)	00:32
Phanes	i wouldn't call it wrong, just that Xsession.d is not intended for driver option calls from xrandr. This will still work but can become a slippery slope. I think the link does a better job explaining the options.	00:32
Reddiy98i	Phanes, Which link?	00:32
Phanes	but what you've been given will absolutely work	00:32
Reddiy98i	Phanes, What is your role on the Ubuntu team?	00:32
Speiros	Dreaman Seems to be getting a lot accomplished, from where I'm viewing.	00:32
Phanes	Reddiy98i, dedicated troll and eater of thinly sliced brisket.	00:32
* Phanes tips hat		00:32
Dreaman	Speiros but my mashines work	00:33
Reddiy98i	I'd prefer taking advice from a team memberf.	00:33
Phanes	lol	00:33
basedmars	yeah actually I'm answering question without answering question gptssddual . I'm a noob so I try guesswork and got humbled by real a real expertise answer. I hope someone could help you with this.	00:33
bivo	Does anyone here know how to patch NES roms to play homebrew mods? The mods are .ips files	00:33
Dreaman	1 hour videocard	00:33
Dreaman	problems	00:34
Speiros	Dreaman Yes, that may be the case, yet apparently so does k1l_'s machine, and he/she is helping others with theirs.	00:34
gptssddual	basedmars, I hope so too, since the	00:34
Dreaman	and +q some times	00:34
Dreaman	:)	00:34
Dreaman	Reddiy98i work or not this intel video card	00:35
gptssddual	basedmars, I hope so too. Until know I feel uneasy about going ahead with the install. I am using Linux since 1997 and I never got a warning like this.	00:35
Reddiy98i	Dreaman, It's an Intel video card, yes.	00:36
Reddiy98i	Dreaman, Why?	00:36
Dreaman	my is but in a i7 processor	00:36
gptssddual	basedmars, know -> now	00:36
Dreaman	and nvidia video dual	00:36
Dreaman	my laptop	00:36
Speiros	Dreaman I don't understand. What does that mean?	00:38
k1l_	gptssddual: the warning is from the usb drive when opening gparted.	00:38
gptssddual	k1l_, so if I understand correctly the USB uses 2048 size blocks while the live kernel reports 512 byte blocks?	00:39
Speiros	4x	00:39
gptssddual	or is that the other way around?	00:39
k1l_	gptssddual: no. the usb hardware got 512 sectors and you burned a iso on it with 2048 sectors on it. (or vice versa.)	00:40
k1l_	its just telling that you have a hardware vs Filesystem missmatch on some disk. but since that is a known issue with usb pendrives and new ubuntu isos you get that for the live usb itself, too	00:41
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gptssddual	k1l_, ok, that makes sense. In that case I'll creat the soft-RAID1 on the twin HDD's and use my SSD for the /boot and /	00:42
Dreaman	chege the boot hdd	00:43
Dreaman	change	00:43
Dreaman	ssd and normal hdd	00:44
gptssddual	Dreaman, please elaborate, I don't get what you are trying to tell me.	00:44
Dreaman	ok	00:44
Rhombix	Hi. My computer died! Not sure if this is the right place but atm i'm running Memtest86+ and i need to know, when does it finish? How do i know when it's done?	00:45
gptssddual	Rhombix, you mean your computer crashed? If it were dead you would not be able to run Memtest, now would you?	00:46
Rhombix	It looks as if the test reached 100% and started again	00:46
Speiros	gptssddual I think Dreaman is saying that you don't necessarily have to have /boot as a separate partition.	00:47
Rhombix	gptssddual: it crashed on me, then crashed when i rebooted. i chose Memtest in the BIOS	00:47
gptssddual	Rhombix, did the "pass" parameter increment when it got to 100%? In that case the Memory would seem fine (at least on the first pass). Did you see any errors being reported?\	00:48
Phanes	is there a dedicated ubuntu for the pi or is raspbian "it"	00:48
gptssddual	Speiros, thank you for the translation ;-) I normally don' t use a separate /boot partition, sorry for the confusion, Dreaman	00:49
Speiros	:)	00:50
* Phanes has read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi but is unsure if this is ubuntu or an ubuntu-like flavor (are there things that are going to be missing)		00:50
k1l_	there is no ubuntu for the first pi since that arm chip is way too old. there are builds for rpi2 and rpi3	00:51
Phanes	if im reading right ill need to build out from a -server base image and then turn on hw accel in a custom xorg.conf?	00:51
CrackerJack	https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23761422/	00:52
Speiros	Rhombix What's happening now?	00:52
Dreaman	interesting work	00:53
Dreaman	intel driver an ssd	00:53
Rhombix	gptssddual: it's all ASCII, there are two bars ("Pass" and "Test") and Test completes every couple of minutes, Pass has reached 100% once but it started again and it's now on 46%. Memtest has been running for about an hour.	00:53
Rhombix	Speiros: same	00:53
gptssddual	Rhombix, sounds perfectly normal to me. Again, did you get any errors?	00:54
gptssddual	Phanes, which generation of RaspPI are you using?	00:55
Phanes	gptssddual, its a pi3	00:55
Phanes	gptssddual, most expensive alarm clock ever :)	00:55
gptssddual	Phanes, no worries then, as k1l_ already told you, go right ahead and install the Ubuntu for the PI3	00:56
Rhombix	gptssddual: there's a notice in the bottom half of the screen: Memory SPD Informations - it lists two things, one of them has the word 'Crucial' in it	00:56
Rhombix	actually, both	00:56
Phanes	gptssddual, im evaluating versus an existing raspbian install on it, thanks though	00:57
gptssddual	Panes, if it's an alarm clock, you are going for, you are probably better off using a simpler module, like the Arduino Nano.	00:57
Rhombix	Slot 0: 4096 MB DDR3-1600 - Crucial STxxxx etc	00:57
Phanes	not sure if arduino has the muscle to host a vnc server	00:57
* Phanes checks		00:58
gptssddual	Phanes, sorry for misspelling your nick there :-/	00:58
Speiros	lol	00:58
gptssddual	Phanes, probably not, forget what I had said then. That is some Alarm Clock you are going for.. Whoha.	00:58
Phanes	lol. it'll fill multiple purposes throughout the house, least of which is a core module for a house-wide sound system, alarm clock, weather app, and ad-hoc desktop via vnc	00:59
Rhombix	This is important for me, because it's 1am here and the test has been running for ~70min. I want to know when I can go to sleep.	01:00
gptssddual	My old alarm clock had just two chips on it, some passives, a 4x7-segment display and a simple psu and that was your lot...	01:00
gptssddual	Rhombix, the test runs infinitely long if you haven't specified the number of passes it must complete.	01:01
Rhombix	What?	01:02
Rhombix	I just ran the test, there was no such dialogue	01:02
gptssddual	Rhombix, Crucial is probably the brand marked in the SPD.	01:02
Rhombix	oh	01:02
gptssddual	Rhombix, you do know what the SPD is, don't you?	01:02
Rhombix	gptssddual: it's a component, right? idk exactly	01:03
Rhombix	makes more sense though, given the wording around 'cruciat'.	01:04
Rhombix	'crucial'	01:04
Speiros	Okay people. Enjoy your days. Sleep overdue by 24 hours.	01:04
gptssddual	Rhombix, it's a simple ROM containing some static data that identifies the memory module, such as CAS latency, access speed and the make of the chip, in your case, the chips have been branded "Crucial"	01:05
HomeSchoolDad	Hi All - noob here - My software center just stopped working. I tried reinstalling sudo apt-get but no luck - any thoughts?	01:05
gptssddual	Speiros, sleep well :-) and thanks for the help!	01:05
Phanes	HomeSchoolDad, launch it from the terminal and use a pastebin to give us the output	01:05
Phanes	when it crashes	01:05
HomeSchoolDad	Phanes: ok stand by	01:06
gptssddual	HomeSchoolDad, you'll need sudo for that...	01:06
Rhombix	gptssddual: thanks for all the help. if it's completed once it's probably safe to turn off now.	01:06
Rhombix	good night :)	01:06
k1l_	HomeSchoolDad: what means "stopped working"?	01:06
gptssddual	Rhombix, good night :-)	01:06
HomeSchoolDad	Phanes: noob here - command line for running software center?	01:07
Phanes	no clue i live in a world of cold menacing terminals	01:07
HomeSchoolDad	k1l_: it will not launch from the gui	01:08
HomeSchoolDad	gptssddual: i have sudo	01:08
k1l_	HomeSchoolDad: doest it load at all?	01:09
k1l_	HomeSchoolDad: what ubuntu is it?	01:09
gptssddual	HomeSchoolDad, the same as Phanes really. I don't know the real name as binary...	01:09
Phanes	i think it's `software-center`	01:10
k1l_	HomeSchoolDad: open a terminal and run "software-center"	01:10
HomeSchoolDad	k1l_: no - 16.04	01:10
gptssddual	Ah, yes, that would make sense, so HomeSchoolDad, please run the following line: sudo software-center &	01:10
Phanes	detach is unnecessary	01:11
k1l_	gptssddual: no. dont run sudo with gui programs	01:11
Phanes	gksudo	01:11
HomeSchoolDad	gptssddual: it launched with "software-center"	01:11
gptssddual	k1l_, ah, yes gksudo, that you for the correction	01:11
gptssddual	that -> thank	01:11
k1l_	and it will ask for root permissions with udev. doesnt need to be started with root	01:11
gptssddual	k1l_, seems I need to learn a thing or two about GUI tools...	01:12
* Phanes eyeballs that posix/lsb spec		01:12
HomeSchoolDad	gptssddual: here is the paste bin : http://pastebin.com/U8tP8Pi1 but it DID launch this time	01:13
Phanes	woof, that gi error.	01:14
HomeSchoolDad	gptssddual: it looks like the 14.04 version	01:14
Phanes	HomeSchoolDad, have you done anything odd like remove python2 or try to move from py2 to py3	01:14
HomeSchoolDad	Phanes: nope	01:14
HomeSchoolDad	Phanes: i ran updates	01:15
k1l_	i dont see unusal errors there	01:15
Phanes	yeah wouldn't be fatal, but is there a branch on github i can fix those on while its in front of me	01:15
* Phanes gets his fork out		01:16
HomeSchoolDad	k1l_: it looks like the old version, but it seems to be running (shrug)	01:17
k1l_	HomeSchoolDad: does it work now with the launcher icon?	01:17
HomeSchoolDad	k1l_: stand by	01:17
gptssddual	HomeSchoolDad, odd that it exits with status 0, usually that means: no errors.	01:17
HomeSchoolDad	k1l_: it does NOT launch from the gui	01:18
* Phanes tries to remember if xdg-open would launch that .desktop file		01:18
HomeSchoolDad	k1l_: it pops right up from terminal	01:18
Phanes	it does	01:19
HomeSchoolDad	gptssddual: IDK - the gui is not working but it come right up form command line	01:19
Phanes	HomeSchoolDad, find out the path of the .desktop file the icon points to and then in the term just `xdg-open $that_path`	01:20
k1l_	HomeSchoolDad: can you try the "gnome-software" too?	01:20
HomeSchoolDad	k1l_: gmone-software does nothing	01:21
gptssddual	HomeSchoolDad, do you need to install an app in a hurry? In that case you could install synaptic and search for the app there...	01:21
HomeSchoolDad	gptssddual: i need cad for robotics team	01:22
gptssddual	HomeSchoolDad, synaptic is not as flashy as Software-Center, but it will get the job done.	01:22
k1l_	HomeSchoolDad: you could use "sudo apt install packagename" in the meantime	01:22
gptssddual	Also true, but the you'd need to know the package name first.	01:22
HomeSchoolDad	gptssddual: sudo apt-get synaptic ?	01:23
Phanes	or uh, we could xdg-open the .desktop file the icon points to, ya know, like the gui does.	01:23
gptssddual	HomeSchoolDad, that's it	01:23
HomeSchoolDad	gptssddual: thanks!	01:23
Phanes	o_O	01:23
k1l_	since 16.04 the gnome-software is the new software-center	01:24
k1l_	HomeSchoolDad: make sure you dont have the typo you made before in "gnome-software"	01:24
gptssddual	Phanes, your solution is also good of course. I might be a bit biased against software center...	01:24
Phanes	oh, not a solution its a testing process	01:25
Phanes	it tells you what's broken	01:25
Dreaman	k1l_ and is a jocke	01:25
Phanes	not as low level as a strace but that's not needed for gtk apps usually	01:26
gptssddual	Phanes, yes, but what if HomeSchoolDad is in a hurry, than it's better to get to the goal quickly and skip the analysis until he has time ;-)	01:26
Phanes	gptssddual, O_o	01:26
HomeSchoolDad	k1l_: gnome-software does not repspond	01:26
* Phanes goes away to do something else		01:26
HomeSchoolDad	you guys are awesome	01:27
gptssddual	HomeSchoolDad, what kind of CAD program do you need?	01:27
generic	Hello worldQ	01:28
Dreaman	HomeSchoolDad just terminal sudo su pass apt install synaptic open see the repos and install evrithing	01:28
HomeSchoolDad	g	01:28
k1l_	Dreaman: HomeSchoolDad dont do sudo su. that is not good advice.	01:28
Phanes	'install everything' is generally frowned upon lol	01:28
HomeSchoolDad	generic: basic - i want to show some concepts to my team - i don't have a windows PC to run the FIRST software	01:28
HomeSchoolDad	k1l_: thanks	01:29
Dreaman	su not work not debian	01:29
gptssddual	HomeSchoolDad, try librecad	01:29
Dreaman	nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ su	01:29
Dreaman	Парола:	01:29
Dreaman	su: Грешка при удостоверяване	01:29
Dreaman	nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$	01:29
generic	Librecad	01:30
Dreaman	:)	01:30
HomeSchoolDad	gptssddual: that's what i just grabbed! thanks	01:30
generic	dreaman	01:30
gptssddual	HomeSchoolDad, np	01:30
generic	от българия ли си	01:30
Industrial	Hi!	01:30
Dreaman	dam	01:30
Industrial	I am "provisioning" my ubuntu install with some shell scripts. https://github.com/Industrial/linux-configfiles/blob/develop/install.sh	01:30
HomeSchoolDad	you guys were great - thank you all!	01:30
HomeSchoolDad	good night	01:30
Industrial	How do I change my user's shell to ZSH from a script?	01:30
Dreaman	generic варналийче сме	01:30
k1l_	Dreaman: using the root account is not enabled on ubuntu and ist not the ubuntu way of doing things. (other distros handle that differently, but this is #ubuntu )	01:30
generic	Dreaman try sudo -i	01:31
Phanes	Industrial, man chsh	01:31
gptssddual	ubottu, russian! \| generic	01:31
tjsimmons	anyone have any idea why i can't run apt upgrade? keeps hanging at basically ever y package it tries to grab from archive.ubuntu.com	01:31
tjsimmons	running in an lxc container if it matters	01:31
Industrial	Phanes: I need to enter a password. I want to do this from a script.	01:31
Dreaman	generic work	01:31
generic	Cheerz	01:31
gptssddual	ru! \| generic	01:31
Dreaman	tova ne go znaeh	01:31
Dreaman	nazdrave	01:31
generic	nazdrave bratko	01:32
k1l_	gptssddual: first the ! then the command.	01:32
generic	pitai ako ima neshto drugo	01:32
Phanes	Industrial, it requires root privs so you'll need to use expect or some other means of passing the password unless you change your sudoers file to not require it (dont do that)	01:32
Dreaman	ok	01:32
gptssddual	ubottu !ru \| generic	01:32
ubottu	generic: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. \| Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.	01:32
generic	gptssdual I'm Bulgarian	01:32
Industrial	Phanes: this is an automated install. I am cloning this repo inside my Vagrant box and then running the script	01:32
Dreaman	gptssddual not russians	01:32
Dreaman	Bulgarians	01:32
tjsimmons	guess i'm the only one with issues running apt upgrade?	01:33
gptssddual	Dreaman, generic sorry, my Cyrillian is not that good to see the difference.	01:33
Phanes	Industrial, is the script running as root?	01:33
generic	It's okay same lango	01:33
generic	I speak russian as well lol	01:33
gptssddual	generic, sorta, anyway, we speak English here on this channel :-)	01:34
k1l_	tjsimmons: does sudo apt update work?	01:34
generic	Yea we have to otherwise we will get asskicked	01:34
Dreaman	gptssddual you canadian	01:34
Dreaman	:)	01:34
tjsimmons	k1l_: i'm running as root in an lxc container. it runs, but hangs on every package	01:34
gptssddual	Dreaman, no, I' m Dutch	01:34
Dreaman	a ok	01:35
k1l_	tjsimmons: does it work on apt update to get a proper clean list?	01:35
gptssddual	Dreaman, but I have nothing against Canadians ;-)	01:35
tjsimmons	k1l_: it doesn't fail, and reads all the sources	01:35
Dreaman	ok :)	01:35
k1l_	tjsimmons: ok, so its not a connection issue at all or a ipv6 issue or such	01:36
tjsimmons	right	01:37
gptssddual	whoa, I'm running a Live environment now and the time seems to be off, it' s actually 2:35 AM here. I need to get to bed!	01:37
tjsimmons	right now it's stuck on updating bash	01:37
tjsimmons	100% downloaded it says	01:37
Phanes	Industrial, https://github.com/shadow-maint/shadow/blob/master/src/chsh.c <-- i think this is what youre looking for	01:37
tjsimmons	"98% [1 bash 583 kB/583 kB 100%]"	01:37
Industrial	Phanes: no it's running as use 'ubuntu'	01:38
Industrial	Phanes: wat? I don't know C :-)	01:38
gptssddual	Dreaman, Phanes, k1l_ , thank you so much for the help. I need to catch some ZZzzz's before I mess up two days of work ;-)	01:38
Phanes	Industrial, it either needs a password supplied via expect (man expect), run as sudo privs (man sudoers), the line directly injected into /etc/passwd (requires root, and dont), or you can copy that source and im pretty sure you'll still need pass or root, but, could hardcode (dont do that)	01:39
Phanes	in short, re-evaluate what you want to do.	01:40
gptssddual	In other words: Good <insert your local time of day here> everyone, I'm going to bed...	01:41
Industrial	Okay, well I guess I can just add it as a post-install script to be ran in an interactive session so I can supply the password at the right time (after ssh-ing into the vagrant box)	01:41
Industrial	Phanes: thanks for the thinking/time :)	01:41
Phanes	yep	01:41
Industrial	Phanes: however vagrant uses keyfiles and not passwords so I don't know the password to the ubuntu user.	01:41
Industrial	but I'll get that sorted :D	01:41
Phanes	Industrial, also (man sed) (think sudo) (think dont)	01:41
tjsimmons	Apt log is also empty	01:42
Industrial	This is pretty rad. With just a Vagrantfile and one command (vagrant up) I get a complete development station with programming tools, IDE configured, shell etc and also a window manager. Any new stuff I'll just add a new install script and press DESTROY and RECREATE.. awzum =D	01:43
Phanes	you know you can build your own vagrant images right	01:43
Phanes	instead of post-installs	01:43
gptssddual	k1l_, I' m switching to the server installer, so I can setup RAID1 and lvm properly before actually installing.	01:43
Industrial	I can take a vagrant box state and generate an image off of it to work from in another Vagrantfile?	01:44
Phanes	there's a little more setup but yes	01:44
k1l_	tjsimmons: i am not familiar with lxc and if that is some sort of lxc issue with diskspace or such	01:44
Industrial	Cool. I could specialize the box for each project and add required tools .. but that might be a bit overkill :D	01:44
Phanes	it is a pretty common approach	01:45
Industrial	Plus I wouldnt want to force my personal homefile on someone else using it	01:45
Industrial	k	01:45
gptssddual	Signing off...	01:46
Phanes	Industrial, a fully functional environment should be immediate after launching a new container if youre hoping for a smooth sdlc	01:46
tjsimmons	Maybe I just need to use an Ubuntu mirror repo?	01:47
Phanes	tjsimmons, im not really getting a feel for what your issue is doing	01:48
Phanes	you've got an lxc container deployed, apt upgrade is stalling after the first package?	01:48
tjsimmons	Phanes: yes	01:51
tjsimmons	basically	01:51
Phanes	tjsimmons, can you copy what happens in your term, and paste the dmesg as well	01:51
Phanes	(guest dmesg)	01:51
mekeor`	while installing ubuntu, i chose to encrypt my whole disk. later, i also checked a box saying i want my personal data to be encrypted. what does the latter even mean? and will it even make any difference...	01:53
tjsimmons	Phanes: sec	01:55
tjsimmons	http://pastebin.com/uhWH898Q	01:56
tjsimmons	terminal output. it eventually starts timing out connections	01:56
Phanes	tjsimmons, journalctl -n 30	01:56
futurama140	HOWDY PEOPLE! I am having an issue that maybe you all can help with. I have cinnamon running, and there is no keyboard shortcut to toggle the case (uppertcase/lowercase) of whatever text I have highlighted. How do i tell the custom keyboard shortcut to do that with my key combo?	01:57
k1l_	tjsimmons: how long did you wait? could be it is calculating stuff in the background for that upgrade	01:57
tjsimmons	i don't see anything useful in dmesg or journalctl	01:58
tjsimmons	k1l_: until they timed out. few minutes?	01:58
sysadmin	hello... I've plugged an internal HDD on my PC while it was on. The HDD gets properly recognized w/out any problem. Does it mean it's hot swappable? Or do I still face chance of data loss?	01:58
k1l_	timing out? hmm.	01:58
tjsimmons	yeah, the connections to archive.ubuntu.com	01:58
Phanes	what does `curl -I http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/` net you	01:59
Phanes	(from that same guest)	01:59
futurama140	Do i have to point the shortcut gui to a... bin file? or something?	02:00
tjsimmons	that curl isn't installed. haha. sec	02:01
Phanes	futurama140, yeah keyboard macros to executable	02:01
tjsimmons	well, i can install curl just fine	02:01
tjsimmons	Phanes: it gave me the html from that page	02:01
tjsimmons	so that worked	02:01
Phanes	tjsimmons, can i see the output of your `df -h`	02:01
tjsimmons	https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/dWNMsg7P/	02:02
futurama140	Phanes: i really still dont know my way around the fileing system, how would i go about finding the file?	02:02
Phanes	futurama140, im not aware of an executable that would change text case for whatever text is highlighted in X you may need to write a macro that wraps around the clipboard	02:03
futurama140	Phanes: wow im in over my head, this will take a while...	02:04
Phanes	futurama140, you could also bind the key in vim	02:04
Phanes	it'll be a little easier to do than that	02:04
Phanes	eh, i can do better than that	02:07
Phanes	check out xclip	02:07
Phanes	xdotool	02:07
Phanes	futurama140, `xclip -o -sel p \| tr '[:lower:][:upper:]' '[:upper:][:lower:]' \| xclip -i -sel c; xdotool key Shift+Insert` or something to that affect	02:07
Phanes	not responsible for side effects	02:08
futurama140	Phanes: im willing to take the chance. im a totaql n00b, though, what do i do with that string?	02:09
Phanes	you want to build a script and bind your macro key to that script	02:09
Phanes	futurama140, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html	02:10
Phanes	futurama140, and please be aware that this is outside the scope of ubuntu, you'll get better help from here in #bash since you're writing a bash script	02:10
futurama140	Phanes: ok, thanks. just got a bit of reading to do then. im sure it'll be immensely useful	02:10
Phanes	its a good guide for starting out	02:11
futurama140	Phanes: I realize this isnt really the appropriate room, but it's the only one that ever has any activity!	02:11
Phanes	no worries. you'll turn that noobsauce into dry linuxer sarcasm in no time.	02:13
isaac_		02:20
tjsimmons	eh whtever. using the mirror at kernel.org solved my upgrade issues	02:23
tjsimmons	no idea what's going on with me and archive.ubuntu.com	02:23
TragicM3LON	hey could someone help me out? I'm trying to boot a windows 10 usb off of hardware that was previously configured running ubuntu on. Anyway, when i try to boot it just loads grub every time? i don't know how to boot the usb?	02:25
dax	talk to ##windows, you're probably having issues with your BIOS/UEFI boot order	02:25
TragicM3LON	ok	02:25
tjsimmons	yeah almost 100% that's it	02:25
TragicM3LON	cool thanks guys	02:25
tjsimmons	you aren't interrupting your boot sequence to pick usb before it hits your main boot drive	02:25
dax	(i.e. current OS is irrelevant)	02:26
futurama140	Phanes: I had this http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Commands-For-Text.html#Commands-For-Text pulled up earlier, and i noticed the bash command for doing exactly what i want. does that make my job any easier?	02:26
TragicM3LON	tjsimmons i would hit F11 to select a boot option, and when i select the drive, it goes straight to grub	02:26
tjsimmons	ah, then maybe it can't find anything to boot off of on that usb	02:27
weswes887	I need help with my Ubuntu install	02:28
weswes887	Oh wait nvm	02:29
backbox	CIao	02:31
Dreaman	:)	02:31
backbox	Italiani??	02:31
Dreaman	weswes887 just install unetbooti rufus usb install or dvd burn	02:33
Dreaman	what is the problem	02:33
generic	Weswes887 Rufus works fine	02:34
generic	Weswes887 if you need help we need to know what is the problem, please be more specific.	02:35
Dreaman	generic sramejliv e	02:38
Dreaman	:)	02:38
Dreaman	generic ot amerika li chatkash	02:39
weswes887	I was using ubuntu server for a minimal ubuntu install but I decided there's no point because I am gonna install unity anyway so I am just gonna reinstall with a DVD I have	02:39
Dreaman	weswes887 why	02:40
Dreaman	usb flash download ubuntu rufus	02:41
Dreaman	and create usb boot ubuntu	02:41
tatertots	weswes887: take care	02:42
Dreaman	or unetbootin	02:42
mcafeemedia	Anyone here who works on documentation?	02:43
weswes887	I use Linux exclusivly so I know how to make USB disks	02:44
weswes887	Thanks for trying to help though	02:45
mcafeemedia	anyone here successfully running 5.1 surround on 16.04lts?	02:49
tatertots	mcafeemedia: i'm sure lots of people are. Whats your problem?	02:50
mcafeemedia	tatertots: erh, new install, it doesn't work. Have tried editing to show 6 default channels but no luck	02:50
tatertots	mcafeemedia: open terminal	02:51
tatertots	mcafeemedia: aplay -L\|nc termbin.com 9999	02:51
Mozammel	weswes887: can you suggest me which softwere I should use to make fedora 25 bootable USB, unetbootin not working.	02:51
tatertots	mcafeemedia: press ENTER	02:52
tatertots	mcafeemedia: share url/link here	02:52
mcafeemedia	dklv	02:52
mcafeemedia	tatertots: termbin[dot]com/ dklv	02:52
opti	is this the best channel to ask about 16.04.2 ?	02:52
dax	opti: yes	02:53
mcafeemedia	tatertots: irc chat client is being finniky about the /	02:53
opti	does anyone know if they plan on patching or pushing a new zfs that works with the hwe kernel?	02:53
weswes887	Mozammel: What OS?	02:53
weswes887	Rufus works good on Windows	02:54
Mozammel	I'm running ubuntu 16.10	02:54
weswes887	I use gnome disk utility	02:54
Mozammel	gnome disk utility can make bootable disk ? cna you guide through ?	02:55
mcafeemedia	tatertots: also that is the coolest f*n cmd. never thought to pipe nc to any link much less a pastebin :D	02:55
tatertots	mcafeemedia: aplay -l\|nc termbin.com 9999	02:56
tatertots	mcafeemedia: share url/link here	02:56
tatertots	mcafeemedia: it's actually different, it might look the same as what you did previously on first glance	02:56
weswes887	Well one way to do it is right click the ISO and select open with, then disk image write	02:57
mcafeemedia	tatertots: plw3	02:57
weswes887	or go to disks, click the 3 lines at the top (menu button) and restore from image Mozammel	02:57
TragicM3LON	just a quick question, i tried using lilo and now when booting it says "No boot signature in partition"	02:58
tatertots	mcafeemedia: amixer\|nc termbin.com 9999	02:58
mcafeemedia	tatertots: 9kb4	02:59
Mozammel	weswes887: okay let me try your steps. I will get back to you with result.	03:00
Mozammel	weswes887: One more question, I can see from disk utility that there is one 80MiB Loop Device created autometically, (/var/lib/snapd/snaps/core_714.snap) I don't know how and for what it created, any idea ?	03:03
weswes887	Nope	03:03
weswes887	Idk if it is a ubuntu thing or what (I use Arch and Opensuse mostly)	03:03
tatertots	mcafeemedia: nothing major yet, would need to get a closer look at the audio and its sub system	03:04
mcafeemedia	tatertots: if what I'm reading is correct the board (z170x gaming 5 gigabyte) is capable of pushing dolbydigital thru optical out (which is what I'm using) but is currently pushing PCM (2.1 surround)	03:04
Mozammel	ok. my bootable USB disk created, let me try to reboot my device and check whether it works or not.	03:04
mcafeemedia	tatertots: let me log into this channel from my laptop and I'm going to check the bios and make sure i'm not missing a toggle somewhere	03:05
tatertots	mcafeemedia: install inxi and let's take a look and figure some stuff out	03:05
mcafeemedia	tatertots: ok, shutdown -a ;)	03:05
tatertots	mcafeemedia: don't forget to install inxi	03:06
mcafeemedia	tatertots: installed	03:06
tatertots	mcafeemedia: inxi -Fxrzc0\|nc termbin.com 9999	03:07
mcafeemedia	tatertots: kshj	03:07
weswes887	Mozammel: The loop device is probaly a mounted disk image or something	03:08
tatertots	mcafeemedia: modinfo snd_hda_intel\|nc termbin.com 9999	03:10
mcafeemedia	tatertots: gfcy	03:11
tatertots	mcafeemedia: what are you using as your > 2.1 source sound to test with?	03:11
mcafeemedia	tatertots: settings>sound>test sound also speaker-test cmd for 5.1	03:12
mcafeemedia	tatertots: speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c6 -l1 - twav	03:13
Mozammel	weswes887: I confirm, it work for fedora 25, now I'm trying openSUSE 42.2 iso. thanks for guide me.	03:13
weswes887	You're welcome, gnome disks is a great application	03:14
mcafeemedia	tatertots: termbin 38yh for output from speaker-test	03:14
weswes887	how is ubuntu working on the pi zero?	03:14
tatertots	mcafeemedia: hardware looks to be capable, it'd have to be something with your configuration	03:16
KSIGNSIPA	Bedtime for me.	03:17
mcafeemedia	tatertots: yeah, that's why i'm here, the ubuntu wiki for surround sound has a bunch of stuff that is old or doesn't work, and one link is malicious	03:17
KSIGNSIPA	Wish me sweet dreams.	03:17
* mcafeemedia wishes KSIGNSIPA sweet dreams		03:18
tatertots	mcafeemedia: you should try playing some true, Dobly digital 5.1/Dobly DTS source material to test with. Like a dvd movie or something that would have true DD 5.1 raw	03:18
htafdresgi	how can I set up my wireless as an access point from the command line?	03:19
htafdresgi	or hotspot	03:19
mcafeemedia	tatertots: there is a website that runs 5.1 tests, i'm assuming the file from their is true 5.1	03:19
mcafeemedia	tatertots: think i could produce one in audacity?	03:19
tatertots	mcafeemedia: if you play the file back you can observe it's properties	03:20
mcafeemedia	tatertots: Oin rhythmbox?	03:20
tatertots	mcafeemedia: use the default video player to play the audio file	03:21
tatertots	mcafeemedia: then observe it's properties	03:21
mcafeemedia	tatertots: opening an mkv of Django Unchained, I know it was 5.1, next i'll grab that audio file.... what do you mean observe?	03:21
mcafeemedia	tatertots: just right click the file? Or do you mean just listen to it?	03:22
tatertots	mcafeemedia: observe=look at	03:22
tatertots	mcafeemedia: you have to play the file in the video player to observe it's properties page in the video player	03:22
mcafeemedia	tatertots: oh, gotcha, also does ubuntu have a version of the screen cmd built in, if so..what is it?	03:23
mikeymop	Hey guys	03:24
mikeymop	I"m on 16.04, xps935. I just randomly had two pretty nasty system locks	03:24
tatertots	mcafeemedia: have you enabled the audio in alsa like shown here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeOuseUqe9Y	03:25
mcafeemedia	tatertots: trying now	03:27
tonberry-king	If i pin flood my router to test speeds do i lag others on the network ?	03:27
tonberry-king	*ping	03:27
tonberry-king	Nothing crazy just using ping -f 0.0.0.0	03:28
tatertots	tonberry-king: why are you testing speeds?...	03:29
tonberry-king	Just looking into my connection speeds through wireless seeing if it's position is best	03:30
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tonberry-king	Dont have a portable comp too setup iperf or anything fancy	03:31
tatertots	tonberry-king: don't forget it also has to compete with every other nearby 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz devices they are in use next door, up stairs, down stairs, across the street etc	03:32
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mcafeemedia	tatertots: that video is so old that the Channels option isn't in the mixer anymore,	03:32
mcafeemedia	tatertots: however, mixer does have a volume slider for each individual channel and they were all turned up	03:32
Turiya	AMD RYZEN NEWS, LATEST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMfNz2SXVLk	03:33
cfhowlett	Turiya, do not spam our channel please! this is rude and violates channel guidelines. stop it.	03:34
tatertots	mcafeemedia: you have to use pavucontrol	03:34
tonberry-king	tatertots: Sorry pinging wont effect other ap's	03:34
tatertots	tonberry-king: i was referring to competition and interference at the RF level, as in near by devices that use the same or an adjacent RF radio frequency.	03:35
tonberry-king	tatertots: So your saying pinging wont give me a good example of other interference	03:36
tatertots	tonberry-king: did you have a ubuntu problem or issue? yes or no	03:37
tonberry-king	tatertots: No and your right not right channel	03:38
tonberry-king	tatertots: thanks though	03:39
mcafeemedia	tatertots: can we swear her because you are a fucking genius, pavucontrol wasn't installed, I installed it, clicked the drop down for "advanced" clicked all the additional audio outputs,and it works great!	03:39
Spec	mcafeemedia: no.	03:39
nicomachus	!language \| mcafeemedia	03:39
ubottu	mcafeemedia: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines \|\| The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList	03:39
tatertots	mcafeemedia: glad 5.1 surround sound is now working for you :)	03:40
mcafeemedia	tatertots: then went to the drop down and changed output from Digital Stereo to Digital Surround 5.1	03:40
Phanes	so, this is interesting, why is my chroot able to see the chroot host's processes from the guest chroot? http://paste.silogroup.org/alapitiqet.bash	03:40
mcafeemedia	tatertots: You're awesome man, thank sso much for the time and effort you put into helping, also if you know anyone who works documentation, the ubuntu wiki/community/surroundsound has malicious links	03:40
Phanes	chroot doesn't share procfs with the host does it?	03:40
nicomachus	mcafeemedia: you should report those in #ubuntu-wiki	03:41
tatertots	mcafeemedia: i'm just glad you got your 5.1 surround sound working, that documentation will sort itself out over time in the long run......maybe	03:41
mcafeemedia	tatertots: LOL doubtful, I reported it in #ubuntu-docs but that's a barren waste	03:42
Phanes	it does! sweet i learned something about chroot and now know less about how chroot works than before i knew it.	03:42
mcafeemedia	Phanes: The more wise I become, the more I know that I do not know	03:43
Phanes	the 'mcafee' tipped me off	03:43
mcafeemedia	Phanes: whaddaya mean?	03:44
Phanes	hehehe. sorry. was thinking of mcafee AV scanner	03:44
mcafeemedia	Phanes: oh...some relation, but not enough to get any of John's money	03:44
Phanes	you should go into infosec	03:45
Phanes	and be like 'yeah we have code sessions in my basement' :: wipes nose ::	03:45
mcafeemedia	Phanes: instead I'm going into linux admin and infosec lol	03:45
Phanes	you're gonna find out really quickly that linux systems is just the entry criteria for being allowed to the interview	03:46
Phanes	master it and move on	03:46
mikeymop	so i dont think it was linux, the laptop I was just on just self destructed :/	03:46
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chandra	ehmn...	03:49
nicomachus	!ot \| all	03:53
ubottu	all: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	03:53
australopithecus	hello so I have a 4k screen on my laptop, I am using ubuntu mate 16.1, is there some fix to make it so it scales things properly, I have increased font but I still get super tiny things like this with most linux apps, including wine http://i.imgur.com/r4rqXnB.jpg	03:55
amrmondy	hello all	04:08
amrmondy	hello	04:08
amrmondy	happy new year guys	04:08
nicomachus	hi amrmondy. do you have an ubuntu support question?	04:09
tatertots	hi australopithecus	04:11
australopithecus	hello tatertots	04:11
tatertots	australopithecus: open terminal	04:11
australopithecus	done	04:11
tatertots	australopithecus: perform the following actions in terminal and press enter	04:12
tatertots	australopithecus: xrandr\|nc termbin.com 9999	04:12
tatertots	australopithecus: share url/link here	04:12
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australopithecus	http://termbin.com/1nne	04:13
australopithecus	here it is tatertots thanks for the help btw	04:13
tatertots	australopithecus: no problem	04:14
tatertots	australopithecus: i think i see what you're describing, i would need to take a more detailed look. do you mind? nothing unique to your person.	04:16
australopithecus	sure	04:16
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tatertots	australopithecus: ok, install inxi, it's in the repos so you can find it using the software manager, or install it in any other method you prefer.	04:17
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nicomachus	why inxi?	04:17
tatertots	australopithecus: you can remove it later if you want, it's up to you	04:18
australopithecus	already installed	04:18
australopithecus	wait nvm tired	04:18
tatertots	australopithecus: inxi -Fxrzc0\|nc termbin.com 9999	04:18
australopithecus	do I install the generic	04:18
tatertots	australopithecus: yes, inxi is in the ubuntu repositories making it easy to find using your favorite method	04:19
tatertots	australopithecus: if you are too tired to go on that's fine...take care	04:20
Gr33ntea	hey guys, I am trying to install Ubuntu onto an Acer One 10, I have make sure to turn off secure boot, and made the USB the default boot. However it does not boot from the USB. I have tried it on a different laptop, and it works fine.	04:21
australopithecus	no no its fine	04:21
australopithecus	http://termbin.com/p1qf	04:21
australopithecus	thanks I appreciate the help	04:21
australopithecus	I just ran the install command and the program was already installed just got confused	04:21
Gr33ntea	made not make* sorry typo.	04:22
Bashing-om	Gr33ntea: Acer: some: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2330267 <- set "trust" on the Ubuntu/grub .efi files.	04:22
tatertots	australopithecus: xrandr -s 7	04:24
tatertots	australopithecus: does that look better or worse?	04:24
australopithecus	worse too huge	04:24
australopithecus	the screen is a box	04:24
australopithecus	its no longer wide screen	04:25
tatertots	australopithecus: xrandr\|nc termbin.com 9999	04:25
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australopithecus	http://termbin.com/xjmo	04:26
weswes887	what is your guys opinion of mate	04:26
Gr33ntea	Bashing-om, How do I go about setting trust?	04:26
Gr33ntea	oh i see the elink	04:27
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Gr33ntea	nvm sorry!	04:27
tatertots	australopithecus: xrandr -s 6	04:27
tatertots	australopithecus: does that look better or worse?	04:27
Gr33ntea	Bashing-om, But this is for if you managed to get it installed.I cant even get the computer to boot into ubuntu	04:27
Bashing-om	Gr33ntea: More than in the link I do not know, as I have no experience with the Acer .	04:27
australopithecus	well one of the problems is that its cutting stuff off	04:28
australopithecus	its better though	04:28
australopithecus	maybe its because I have things saled	04:28
tatertots	australopithecus: do you have your TVs video setting set to 1:1 or to stretch or zoom or pan-scan ?	04:29
australopithecus	no idea	04:29
australopithecus	what pan-scan is	04:29
Bashing-om	Gr33ntea: More hints : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2333630 for the Acer to allow booting .	04:30
tatertots	australopithecus: xrandr -s 2	04:30
tatertots	australopithecus: does that look better or worse?	04:30
australopithecus	just one second I have the font hugely scaled up so it is making things too big	04:31
tatertots	australopithecus: ok,	04:31
australopithecus	its like half my screen is cut off	04:32
australopithecus	also it is slightly better	04:32
australopithecus	but again it is letter box	04:32
australopithecus	http://i.imgur.com/undefined.png	04:33
australopithecus	this is what my screen looks like atm	04:33
tatertots	australopithecus: it would be good to be cognizant of how you have your video settings on the display itself, but we can still continue and find something that looks acceptable to you	04:33
tatertots	australopithecus: that link to imgur.com does NOT work	04:33
amrmondy	hello	04:34
australopithecus	http://imgur.com/a/d7lTu	04:34
australopithecus	sorry	04:34
amrmondy	what this ?	04:34
australopithecus	yeah I am sorry tatertots its just kind of hard to use this laptop with the current setting	04:35
amrmondy	anyone can see my words ?	04:35
tatertots	australopithecus: xrandr -s 0	04:35
australopithecus	I appreaciate your help immensely tatertots thank you again for taking the time	04:35
Bashing-om	amrmondy: You are live .	04:35
amrmondy	Helloooooooooooooooooooooooooo	04:35
australopithecus	sorry for being ignorant about these things	04:35
tatertots	australopithecus: no problem	04:36
amrmondy	how r u guys ?	04:36
tatertots	australopithecus: did you get your font sized back to stock/default size?	04:36
australopithecus	give me one moment I will try	04:37
amrmondy	Bashing-om	04:37
amrmondy	i am not live	04:37
amrmondy	no one see me	04:37
amrmondy	Bashing-om: i am not live	04:37
nicomachus	I'm trying to install a package called "librespot" with cargo, but it keeps getting stuck on compiling. not sure if I should try to get help here or somewhere else...	04:38
amrmondy	Bashing-om: anyone can see my words ?	04:38
australopithecus	I set it back to 99	04:38
australopithecus	tatertots	04:38
Bashing-om	amrmondy: This is ubuntu support, ask your support question .	04:38
tatertots	australopithecus: you can now go back and try the different settings we looked at to find one that looks best	04:39
amrmondy	Bashing-om: okay	04:39
tatertots	australopithecus: xrandr -s 2	04:40
amrmondy	i using xubuntu on my Samsung chromebook and i have some problems there	04:40
amrmondy	i can't open my videos	04:40
amrmondy	error on gstreamer	04:40
amrmondy	in *	04:41
australopithecus	tatertots it seems that using this cuts my screen in half	04:41
tatertots	australopithecus: xrandr -s 14	04:42
black_	amrmondy what player you have?	04:42
australopithecus	xrandr -s 2 puts the computer in letter box	04:42
tatertots	australopithecus: 14 should look pretty good	04:42
australopithecus	Ok I think I figured this out	04:43
australopithecus	thanks so much tatertots, yeah 14 is a bit too big	04:43
black_	amrmondy install a mplayer and try again	04:44
australopithecus	but I can mess with it until I get something good :)	04:44
australopithecus	you are the best	04:44
nicomachus	this is the error I'm getting from cargo: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23762278/	04:44
tatertots	australopithecus: you're welcome	04:44
australopithecus	its just that when I use this command it doesnt "scale" or make things fit	04:44
australopithecus	so I need to move all the objects over on my top bar	04:44
tatertots	australopithecus: oh you need to log out and back in again when you switch	04:45
amrmondy	i installed it	04:45
amrmondy	but didn't work	04:45
australopithecus	oh shit lol	04:45
australopithecus	ok	04:45
australopithecus	I will try that	04:45
amrmondy	i installed vlc and work badly	04:46
australopithecus	thanks again 14 seems to be the best	04:46
amrmondy	i will try install mplayer or kplayer	04:46
tatertots	australopithecus: i figured you'd like 14	04:47
ledeni	amrmondy, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?	04:48
amrmondy	yes i did	04:49
tatertots	australopithecus: you might try 12 also	04:49
ledeni	amrmondy, did you install xubuntu-restricted-extras?	04:51
amrmondy	yes i installed it	04:52
amrmondy	still didn't work	04:52
ledeni	amrmondy,what is exactly error message	04:53
Bashing-om	amrmondy: 16.04 ; install libdvd-pkg ?	04:53
plshelp	can somebody please explain to me what bs is when using dd	04:53
tatertots	plshelp: open terminal	04:54
tatertots	plshelp: man dd	04:54
amrmondy	guys remember i use xubuntu on my samsung chromebook	04:54
plshelp	i want to copy my hard drive to an external with a live cd and i don't know what block size to use	04:54
tatertots	plshelp: see the section on "bs"	04:54
Bashing-om	plshelp: Block size . how much data to copy at a whack .	04:54
amrmondy	i use 14.04 LTS	04:54
amrmondy	armhf	04:54
plshelp	is it purely preference? i don't understand how to decide what to specify	04:55
Bashing-om	amrmondy: 14.04 ; install libdvdcss libdvdread4 libdvdnav4 ?	04:55
Cayden	Can I get Ubuntu help?	04:56
nicomachus	!ask \| Cayden	04:56
ubottu	Cayden: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience	04:56
Cayden	!patience	04:57
ubottu	Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/	04:57
amrmondy	wait i will install them now	04:58
crazyhorse18	is there some low level program	05:02
crazyhorse18	that can copy files off a hard drive ignoring sector errors?	05:02
crazyhorse18	when i went to the hdd recovery shop they had some special magic software that could do it.. even though it wouldn't even mount anywhere else	05:03
turista	Hi, I need to ask if in the reposity, there's https links; or how can I check the repository file?¿	05:10
tim_	turista what?	05:16
turista	how can I open the repository file?¿	05:16
tim_	which one?	05:16
turista	where these links are when I make sudo apt-get update	05:16
tim_	what version of ubnutu?	05:17
tim_	http://packages.ubuntu.com/	05:17
cfhowlett	!details \| tim_	05:18
ubottu	tim_: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.	05:18
tim_	that will cover the last three major releases	05:18
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tim_	well tim_ is not the one talking in circles not asking any questions	05:18
cfhowlett	sorry meant it for turista . my mistake	05:19
cfhowlett	!details\| turista	05:19
ubottu	turista: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.	05:19
tim_	no worries I think I was able to answer turista question based one what he tried to ask	05:19
tim_	*on	05:20
tim_	I try to be more patient with the questions folks ask in the Ubuntu channel, after all if they were well seasoned system administrators they wanted be running Ubuntu :)	05:21
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guest5302	Hello everyone. Anyone here have any luck installing Ubuntu 16.04.1 on an Acer E5-575?	05:28
xangua	! Details \| guest5302	05:31
ubottu	guest5302: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.	05:31
tim_	guest5302 a little google-fu shows yes but some bios version maybe problematic http://community.acer.com/t5/E-F-and-M-Series-Laptops/Acer-Aspire-e5-573g-You-can-not-install-any-one-Linux/td-p/386009	05:32
tim_	If the Acer has already been purchased best thing to do is test everything with a live cd	05:32
tim_	or go balls to the wall install it, and resolve the problems bit but bit, if you are just looking for a laptop to install Ubuntu on before making the purchase Id suggest a dell XPS guest5302 or if you have a budge system76.com builds laptops made for linux	05:34
guest5302	Tim Thanks for the link. I figured the BIOS would be a problem. I'll give it a go with the Live CD and see how far I can get.	05:34
guest5302	I might just partition the drive and like you said, bit by bit. Might be good for the community to share those steps.	05:34
tim_	Most laptops you can just set enable legacy mode and it will bypass most of the problems that arise in uefi	05:35
Bashing-om	guest5302: More hints : For an Acer, you have to press the F2 key a couple of times, directly after turning on the computer.	05:36
tim_	sorry my spelling sucks tonight, i'm surprise the bots are not crying about it	05:36
Bashing-om	guest5302: ^^ from : https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/windows#TOC-Change-some-UEFI-settings .	05:36
guest5302	Bashing-om & tim, thanks for the links. I'll get started now and i'll report back later on how it went.	05:38
tim_	I recall reading back when secure boot came out that canonical would be purchasing digital keys so the installers would work with uefi and secure boot?	05:39
tim_	in face I think all linux distro maintainers would be doing this by now	05:40
tim_	face = fact	05:40
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Bashing-om	guest5302: Also : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2330267 <- set "trust" on the Ubuntu/grub .efi files. ; https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2333630 .	05:47
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oniichan	hello	06:03
tim_	hello	06:03
nicomachus	o/	06:03
amrmondy	hello	06:03
RonWhoCares	I am switching my computer to 2 hard drives	06:04
RonWhoCares	Hard drive #1 - Operating system / programs. Hard drive #2 - data. Is it worth having a separate partition for /usr on the data drive/	06:04
lotuspsychje	!home \| RonWhoCares	06:05
ubottu	RonWhoCares: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving	06:05
RonWhoCares	lotuspsychje: Thank you	06:06
pavansa	hii	06:12
TragicM3LON	is there any way to remove grub and put windows bootloader on the system?	06:23
TragicM3LON	on the linux side?	06:23
hanzi	Hi niggers.	06:28
ObrienDave	TragicM3LON, no, windows boot will not recognize linux, afaik	06:29
sas-ai	tearfree prevents lines like fire right ?	06:29
sas-ai	when i see fire on video it´s like alotta images see lines	06:30
TragicM3LON	just trying to get this system to recognize a windows usb, to install windows, but grub keeps pulling up	06:30
sas-ai	wanna run videos smooth with radeon II	06:31
xXEoflaOEXx	TragicM3LON, Is your Windows USB bootable? Are you be able to boot from USB in BIOS?	06:31
cfhowlett	TragicM3LON, that's not grub and that's not how you launch windows. you need to reboot, hit your bios and choose your boot devide	06:31
cfhowlett	device	06:31
TragicM3LON	i've done that	06:31
TragicM3LON	it still goes to grub	06:31
TragicM3LON	so i don't know what's going on	06:31
ObrienDave	TragicM3LON, you need to reinstall MFT first. i know there's instructions, but can't remember where they are	06:31
sas-ai	boot- priority perhaps ?	06:32
cfhowlett	TragicM3LON, check your manual. it will tell you how to boot from selected media	06:32
xXEoflaOEXx	TragicM3LON, When you boot to USB is it going straight to the HDD boot?	06:32
TragicM3LON	i know how to, but when i select the USB it goes right to grub	06:32
TragicM3LON	i hit F11 to select a boot device, select the USB, goes right to grub	06:32
cfhowlett	usb? you have windows on a usb?	06:32
xXEoflaOEXx	TragicM3LON, Are there any HDD activities?	06:33
TragicM3LON	yes i created a bootable USB	06:33
cfhowlett	in any case, "how do I boot windows"? is a ##windows query or - again - read your hardware manual.	06:33
TragicM3LON	ya well felt like a linux thing, since it keeps pulling up grub	06:33
TragicM3LON	and lets face it, the windows people don't know how to do this	06:33
xXEoflaOEXx	TragicM3LON, How did you make your USB bootable? dd?	06:34
TragicM3LON	i tried dd and then tried Etcher to see if dd wasn't working	06:34
dax	As discussed last time, this is not an #ubuntu issue. Your computer not booting a Windows install disk is irrelevant to #ubuntu, and unaffected by your currently-installed OS>	06:34
cfhowlett	also off-topic = "make a windows usb"	06:35
dax	^	06:35
LoganDark	Hello, my root account is being actively bruteforced through SSH. Any advice on how I can globally drop attempts for about 10 minutes after a few failed connection attempts?	06:35
xXEoflaOEXx	TragicM3LON, Ask on ##windows.	06:35
dax	Yes, I think we've covered that.	06:35
TragicM3LON	i'll try again there, last time the ppl just went off in Russian	06:35
TragicM3LON	so whatever	06:35
dax	LoganDark: so is every other public ssh server. Ignore it, or change port, or use fail2ban/denyhosts	06:35
dax	(or firewall it off)	06:36
LoganDark	dax didn't expect the rudeness, but I will check out fail2ban thanks	06:36
dax	Wasn't being rude, it is what it is.	06:36
digital_ghost	how to update "hexchat" on ubuntu?	06:36
cfhowlett	digital_ghost, sudo apt install hexchat	06:37
dax	LoganDark: people often think it's them specifically getting targeted and get worked up about it. Hence me mentioning that we all get that.	06:37
digital_ghost	cfhowlett: i already installed it, my version is 2year old, i want to upgrade to latest hexchat version	06:38
LoganDark	dax: All I'm asking for is a way to automatically ban IPs after failed connection attempts. I don't need any extra info	06:38
LoganDark	But thanks anyway	06:38
cfhowlett	digital_ghost, open a terminal : hexchat --version	06:38
dax	LoganDark: fail2ban or denyhosts will both do that, in case you disregarded the rest of the sentence	06:38
cfhowlett	2.10.2 is the latest in the ubuntu repos digital_ghost	06:38
dax	LoganDark: though I think one is unmaintained, so I recommend looking at both	06:39
LoganDark	in case you disregarded the rest of my sentence, I already said, I quote "but I will check out fail2ban thanks"	06:39
dax	LoganDark: ah, good. I forgot you said that.	06:39
LoganDark	lol	06:39
LoganDark	IRC goes by quick doesn't it	06:39
dax	I'm doing 10 things at once right now, also -_-	06:40
LoganDark	Lol	06:40
digital_ghost	cfhowlett: my client broke today and i got banned, somebody told hexchat is overflooding because i am using the old unstable version	06:41
LoganDark	Lol	06:41
OERIAS	digital_ghost, use xchat	06:43
OERIAS	lol	06:43
xXEoflaOEXx	digital_ghost, What Ubuntu version?	06:43
OERIAS	or bitchX	06:43
digital_ghost	xXEofla0Exx: 16.04 LTS	06:44
xXEoflaOEXx	digital_ghost, It seems that you may have to upgrade to Yakkety to get the latest version of HexChat.	06:45
digital_ghost	xXEofla0EXx: can i update using other repos?	06:46
cfhowlett	digital_ghost, mixing repos = breaking ubuntu	06:46
cfhowlett	msg ubottu yakkety hexchat	06:47
cfhowlett	digital_ghost, and yakkety has 2.12.02-2ubuntu2 same as xenial	06:47
ObrienDave	woah, i'm on 16.04 and my hexchat is current	06:47
ObrienDave	2.12.4	06:48
sohum_	hi	06:48
cfhowlett	ObrienDave, ! really?	06:48
ObrienDave	yes	06:48
cfhowlett	ppa?	06:48
sohum_	hi	06:48
sohum_	hi?	06:49
xangua	Or one could read the download section https://hexchat.github.io/downloads.html	06:49
cfhowlett	ask your ubuntu question sohum_	06:49
xangua	PPA, snap, etc	06:49
xXEoflaOEXx	digital_ghost, Download hexchat and hexchat repositories from yakkety or use the download link above ^^	06:49
sohum_	how do you overclock?	06:49
sohum_	im noob	06:49
cfhowlett	sohum_, wrong channel. ask #hardware	06:49
sohum_	oops srr	06:50
sohum_	im noob	06:50
ObrienDave	cfhowlett, no, official repos	06:50
cfhowlett	ObrienDave, https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/ubuntu/hexchat-stable 2.12.0-2-xenial ... unless you snapped or something	06:51
a[0]	hi folks, apologies if this isn't the right place for this question -- I'm using 14.04 in a Docker container to try to build a library that uses OpenGL. I'm using conda to build it like this: https://github.com/ccordoba12/pcl-conda-recipes/blob/master/pcl/meta.yaml	06:51
a[0]	the problem is I get errors like this: "make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib64/libGLU.so', needed by `lib/libpcl_surface.so.1.8.0'. Stop." -- it's as if cmake was able to find OpenGL, but then fails to link with it	06:52
sohum__	what is this channel topic	06:52
sohum__	?	06:52
ObrienDave	oh, my bad, getdeb ppa, sorry	06:52
cfhowlett	sohum__, read your topic	06:52
* cfhowlett delivers smack to side of ObrienDave's head to force recalibration		06:52
tatertots	a[0]: are you chatting from 14.04 right now? yes or no	06:52
a[0]	tatertots: no, the stuff I'm talking about is all happening inside docker	06:53
tatertots	a[0]: or you have console level access to 14.04?	06:53
tatertots	a[0]: i understand inside the docker	06:54
tatertots	a[0]: do you have access to the 14.04 system right now?	06:54
ObrienDave	cfhowlett, lol	06:54
Mister_X	hey	06:54
Mister_X	I have a service that prevents boot process to finish	06:55
tatertots	a[0]: meaning can you open terminal in the 14.04 environment you have? yes or no	06:55
Mister_X	I was wondering how I can disable it easily	06:55
Mister_X	(16.04)	06:55
xXEoflaOEXx	Mister_X, What service that prevents Ubuntu from booting?	06:55
a[0]	tatertots: apart from connectivity issues to a remote machine, I can run a shell in it, inside docker, yes. "the 14.04 system" is a just FROM line in a dockerfile	06:56
cfhowlett	if you're not booted, I don't see a service blocking your boot, Mister_X	06:56
Mister_X	dnscrypt-proxy	06:56
Mister_X	cfhowlett, not sure to follow you	06:56
tatertots	a[0]: i'm just asking if you have live, realtime administrative level access to the 14.04 system right now?	06:56
a[0]	yes	06:59
tatertots	a[0]: do you want to find tshoot and find out why it can't find OpenGL	06:59
tatertots	a[0]: step #1 install inxi, inxi is in the official ubuntu repositories making it easy to find in the gui software manager, or your preferred installation method.	07:00
tatertots	a[0]: step #1 install inxi, inxi is in the official ubuntu repositories making it easy to find in the gui software manager, or your preferred installation method. also making it easy to see details and possibly community reviews and such	07:01
tatertots	a[0]: once you have inxi installed let me know, then we'll go to step #2	07:02
tatertots	a[0]: are you familiar with installing software in a 14.04 environment? do i need to provide you with the steps?	07:05
a[0]	tatertots: i am, but I think it will be more effective for me to gather the Dockerfile and small handful of files; the issue should be exactly reproducible	07:06
a[0]	just another minute or two	07:06
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a[0]	tatertots: this should reproduce the problem https://gist.github.com/jtbandes/14e0c5a285a4fee969a562a49fd60da9	07:09
a[0]	I had to modify things slightly because gist doesn't accept files nested in dirs; running again myself to verify. but basically follow the instructions in the first file, and you will ultimately see the failure on the last step	07:10
Mister_X	any way to abort a service startup while the system is booting?	07:10
tatertots	a[0]: well no step #2 for you is all i'm reading	07:10
Mister_X	dnscrypt-proxy is hanging and preventing the whole system to boot	07:10
tatertots	a[0]: and that's perfectly acceptable	07:11
tatertots	a[0]: take care, and good luck	07:11
xXEoflaOEXx	Mister_X, Are you able to boot into recovery mode?	07:11
a[0]	thanks	07:12
Mister_X	yes	07:12
Mister_X	but when getting a root shell, after a minute, screen gets messed up	07:12
tatertots	a[0]: do they have #docker irc channels on freenode that you're aware of?	07:13
xXEoflaOEXx	Mister_X, Did the screen actually distort or does the text get mixed? and what happens when you remove dnscrypt-proxy?	07:13
a[0]	tatertots: there probably is one. but I figured it's more about the OS than about docker itself. I haven't used this channel really before so I wasn't sure whether it's totally on topic here	07:14
Mister_X	text gets mixed	07:14
Mister_X	sometimes, it gets back in the menu	07:15
a[0]	there may also be some Stack Exchange site where this is appropriate, but I don't think Stack Overflow is quite right for it	07:15
tatertots	a[0]: yes i agree, i'm wondering why you're seeming to avoid rolling up your sleeves and trouble shooting at the 14.04 level, is it due to you not being truly familiar enough with it from a system administrative perspective?	07:16
tatertots	a[0]: that means being at that 14.04 console with administrative credentials	07:16
xXEoflaOEXx	Mister_X, Maybe use: echo manual \| sudo tee /etc/init/dnscrypt-proxy.override	07:16
tim_	https://docs.docker.com/opensource/get-help/ tatertots	07:16
a[0]	I guess I don't quite know what "troubleshooting at the 14.04 level" means. I'll admit I am not the most experienced 14.04 sysadmin, but I am certainly familiar enough to have provided what I believe are exact repro steps for my problem inside a container	07:17
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dax	tatertots: (you probably want to resend that, it got blocked by the spam filter)	07:21
tjsimmons	ok	07:22
tjsimmons	anyone have any thoughts as to why networking.service takes so long to come up?	07:22
tjsimmons	my nfs automounts aren't working at boot because of it	07:22
tjsimmons	(looking at systemctl list-jobs)	07:23
tatertots	dax: he can fin for himself	07:23
tjsimmons	https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/710SETFy/	07:23
WildPenguin	hello, is Seamonkey more lightweight and more suitable than Firefox for a distro like Lubuntu?	07:24
dax	not particularly, in my experience	07:24
WildPenguin	ok	07:24
cfhowlett	WildPenguin, it's free to install and test for yourself	07:25
WildPenguin	where can I find it?	07:25
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tjsimmons	5 minutes... https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/km9NSaD3/	07:26
WildPenguin	Webbrowser usually consumes more CPU resources, I think.	07:26
oniichan	hello	07:28
xXEoflaOEXx	oniichan, Do you have your Ubuntu question?	07:29
dax	they left	07:29
xXEoflaOEXx	ok	07:29
Speiros	What is the reason some change their name so many times in a row?	07:30
dax	Speiros: someone making noise to be silly	07:30
Speiros	dax Ah, okay.	07:30
Mister_X	xXEoflaOEXx, tried that but my issue is remounting the filesystem rw	07:37
Mister_X	mount -o rw,remount /	07:37
Mister_X	doesn't seem to work	07:37
xXEoflaOEXx	Mister_X, then you have to reboot to Live CD or USB and don't reinstall, go to Live CD.	07:38
Mister_X	doesn't work because of nouveau freezing my system	07:39
Mister_X	and the disk has FDE	07:39
Mister_X	nouveau preventing to boot	07:39
Mister_X	NMI soft lock up	07:40
Mister_X	optimus	07:40
xXEoflaOEXx	Mister_X, What graphics card you have?	07:40
Mister_X	960m	07:40
xXEoflaOEXx	Mister_X, nvidia?	07:40
Mister_X	yes	07:41
xXEoflaOEXx	Mister_X, What Ubuntu version?	07:42
Mister_X	16.10	07:42
oniichan	hello	07:42
oniichan	test	07:42
elky	oniichan: hi, do you have a question?	07:44
ObrienDave	they're just testing ;P lol	07:46
oniichan	elky : yes i have a question, how to fix metasploits framework	07:47
elky	oniichan: i don't know but if you wait someone who knows might chime in.	07:47
elky	oniichan: i think they have a channel on here at #metasploit	07:49
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oniichan	elky : oke thanks for your informations	07:52
Speiros	Do you think that an animal has been chosen for the ubuntu version after "Z", or are we going to require an animal with an ampersand at the beginning?	07:52
alkisg	Mister_X: if you select the recovery boot, and then select to enable networking, this remounts the root file system rw, so then you can select a root prompt	07:53
Speiros	I can only think of &goose	07:53
devel_	yo	07:57
devel_	hows it going	07:57
cfhowlett	devel_, ask your ubuntu questions	07:57
devel_	wait is this for ubuntu questions? i just wanted to hang out tbh	07:58
cfhowlett	!ot \| devel_	07:58
ubottu	devel_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	07:58
devel_	o shit sorry fam	07:58
Speiros	:)	07:58
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Sam-Vesta	That works.	08:04
Sam-Vesta	Hi! I'm trying to upgrade from 15.04 to 16.10 via USB, I'm just wondering if the installer will delete my music files.	08:05
Speiros	Sam-Vesta If it's an upgrade, technically it's not supposed to, but why risk it? Do you have an external drive or something?	08:07
cfhowlett	Sam-Vesta, possibly but that's why you backed everything up first, right? RIGHT?	08:08
Sam-Vesta	I don't. I'm in a bit of a bind. Laptop doesn't have a CD drive.	08:08
Speiros	Ah, I had one of those, but was installed with windows.	08:09
Sam-Vesta	I'd love to do a backup, but I don't have the resources for it. Money tight, old laptop died, I'm lucky I was able to get the HD into this old spare.	08:09
cfhowlett	if's it's not important enough to back up, it's not important enough to save.	08:09
Speiros	Sam-Vesta Are you an artist, or a listener?	08:10
Sam-Vesta	Listener.	08:11
Speiros	Sam-Vesta Because maybe you can encrypt the files and save them to some cloud. But personally I minimise cloud stuff, although it's near impossible these days.	08:11
Sam-Vesta	Speiros: So the usual behavior for Ubuntu when it installs on a partition is to keep the old (non-system) files if it's a compatible linux install?	08:12
Speiros	Sam-Vesta I've never gone so far as to testing it. I delete the whole hard drive and reload, and have my files externally...but I'm quite sure. Before doing it, have a look on the ubuntu wiki. I'll try to find a link.	08:13
Sam-Vesta	Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.	08:13
Speiros	Where'd he go?	08:15
riccardo	hello	08:21
MMan	hello	08:21
riccardo	Hot corners don't work after restart in ubuntu 16.10.... Any workaround?	08:21
MMan	i got my mind burn out, trying to recover since 2008..any way happy new year to all!	08:22
Speiros	Thanks MMan.	08:23
ballpen	anyone who is using trusty and weechat overit?	08:24
ballpen	over it*	08:24
bazhang	tried in #weechat yet ballpen	08:25
ballpen	yeah	08:25
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bazhang	state the issue for the channel please	08:25
ballpen	but they are saying that weechat 1.6 is out there and there is no such problem in 1.6	08:26
ballpen	ok	08:26
ballpen	basically I have installed it from repo which is 0.4.2 and I am having some issues with beep.pl	08:27
bazhang	which version of ubuntu are you on	08:27
ballpen	I tried to look up online and found one solution but as I don't know perl I am unable to use it	08:27
ballpen	trusty	08:27
ballpen	https://davido.me/2014/08/10/sound-on-highlight-weechat-when-beep-pl-doesnt-work/	08:27
bazhang	!info weechat	08:27
ubottu	weechat (source: weechat): Fast, light and extensible chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5-1 (yakkety), package size 2 kB, installed size 60 kB	08:27
ballpen	it is 0.4.2 for trusty	08:28
bazhang	even the most current does not have 1.6	08:28
ballpen	http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/allpackages	08:28
ballpen	bazhang: yeah exactly	08:28
ballpen	bazhang: are you able to understand the solution given in that blog?	08:28
bazhang	so the only ways to get it are either compile or find a PPA	08:29
bazhang	PPA are entirely at your risk, supported by the maintainer	08:30
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ballpen	well I had configured it to suite my needs and would be really great If I could get beep.pl working somehow lol	08:32
bazhang	thats a three year old blog post	08:33
bazhang	so ask in #weechat is the best option here	08:33
ballpen	bazhang: k mate thanks :)	08:36
Mozammel	my ''darktable'' looks very ugly, anyone have any idea why that, I just install it and did not changed any settion. here is the screenshot, http://picpaste.com/darktable_001-3s2HS9bV.png i'm using ubuntu 16.10, GNOME & Unity, for both DE i'm having the same problem. any help will be appriciated.	08:43
manjaro	hello	08:53
elky	manjaro: hi, do you have a question about ubuntu?	08:54
manjaro	I don`t know English	08:54
elky	i see...	08:55
elky	what language do you know, manjaro?	08:56
ballpen	^	08:56
manjaro	Chinese	08:56
ballpen	hmm lol hindi here	08:56
manjaro	Goodbye!	08:57
elky	manjaro: then you could ask in #ubuntu-cn	08:57
ballpen	^	08:57
ducasse	ballpen: weechat.org has debian/ubuntu repos with the latest version, if that is an option for you	09:03
dax	and they work very nicely (I use them on Debian)	09:04
nkr_	I'm not able to get wikr running on 16.04	09:05
ducasse	i use them on x86-64 ubuntu and armhf debian without problems	09:05
ballpen	ducasse: thanks!!! :)	09:08
ducasse	ballpen: yw :)	09:08
linux_	what the fuck	09:27
linux_	hello	09:27
bazhang	no cursing here linux_	09:28
linux_	is sombody here	09:28
ballpen	linux_: hello and welcome :)	09:28
bazhang	did you have an ubuntu support issue linux_	09:28
linux_	is it chinese serv:	09:30
linux_	or american	09:30
bazhang	!cn \| linux_	09:30
ubottu	linux_: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw	09:30
linux_	hehe	09:30
linux_	who are you	09:30
bazhang	this is support only linux_	09:30
bazhang	please take chat somewhere else linux_	09:31
linux_	is that engeneer>	09:31
linux_	nice to meet you	09:31
bazhang	linux_, do you have an ubuntu support issue	09:31
linux_	yeap	09:32
ballpen	lol	09:32
ballpen	man this is funny	09:32
linux_	joking	09:32
linux_	i am in beijing	09:33
bazhang	!ot \| ballpen linux_	09:33
ubottu	ballpen linux_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	09:33
bazhang	linux_, please stop the chat here	09:33
bazhang	linux_, there are offtopic chat channels for that	09:34
ballpen	bazhang: thanks man will surely do :)	09:34
linux_	ok	09:34
ballpen	bazhang: but I have registered my nick over freenode	09:35
black	How to auto connect service, when i run irssi ?	09:44
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Serdar1	good morning	09:55
Speiros	Hi Serdar1	09:55
Serdar1	I am trying to finalize my system, still got lot of issues with nvidia driver, but also with fs mounts, which I don	09:55
Serdar1	't understand	09:56
Serdar1	dmesg says this EXT4-fs (sda3): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem	09:56
Serdar1	but I don't have an ext partition	09:56
Serdar1	okay forget that	09:57
Speiros	Serdar1 Okay. So you can see that an external file system and the ext4 are different things?	09:57
Serdar1	strange something corrupted my fstab	09:57
Serdar1	Speiros: I found that, there is an ext4 in my fstab, but I introduced xfs there	09:58
Serdar1	strange	09:58
Serdar1	and this is also wrong... UUID=C246-A538 /boot/efi vfat umask=0077 0 1	09:59
Speiros	Serdar1 I'm not experienced enough to know what the issue is here.	10:00
ducasse	Serdar1: what is wrong about the efi entry?	10:00
Serdar1	why is there a vfat, I never did that	10:01
Serdar1	also /boot is not an extra partition	10:01
Serdar1	ah, /boot/efi is the windows bootloader I guess.	10:01
ducasse	Serdar1: it's the efi system partition, you need that.	10:01
Serdar1	Speiros: I did not introduce it, that's the case	10:01
Serdar1	ducasse: this is new to me. the last time I installed linux I only used /boot partition or none, but efi system partition...	10:02
Speiros	Serdar1 What is the system you're introducing? Is it 16:4, 16:10, or something else?	10:02
Serdar1	16.10	10:02
Speiros	Ok, thanks	10:02
ducasse	Speiros: if your machine already had windows installed the esp would already be there, otherwise you would need to create it. this is probably your first uefi system, that's why you haven't seen it before.	10:03
Speiros	ducasse To Serdar1?	10:04
ducasse	bad tab complete :)	10:04
Speiros	:)	10:04
Serdar1	ducasse: before I mean 5-6 years ago :)	10:04
pavan	how to Create Bitmap from a byte array in python	10:05
ducasse	Serdar1: on uefi systems you need the efi system partition, that's where the bootloader is stored.	10:05
ducasse	pavan: ask ##python	10:05
Speiros	pavan That's who can help with that issue mate.	10:07
pavan	not getting reply from there	10:07
Speiros	pavan It appears there is a large #python site too.	10:07
Younder	python is huge yes	10:08
Speiros	pavan Try the single hash.	10:08
Younder	Anyone have a real #ubuntu question?	10:08
fund	Anyone made partition in Usb drive?	10:09
Younder	fo	10:09
Speiros	Not me fund	10:10
Younder	fund: why would you want to?	10:10
Younder	fund: yest it is a drive like any other drive	10:10
fund	Younder may I ask which are possible usage of it?	10:10
Younder	use fdisk	10:10
fund	Yest?	10:10
Serdar1	where can I see these [OK] messages from boot, is this in syslog or somewhere else?	10:11
Younder	make sense	10:11
Speiros	pavan There are over 1500 in #python, but you're in ##python.	10:12
ducasse	Serdar1: no, they're not stored anywhere afaik.	10:13
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ducasse	hmm, the official channel seems to have moved from ##python to #python now...	10:14
Speiros	ducasse Yeah, it seems so.	10:17
sabrehagen	i'm on xubuntu 16.04. i have three monitors. sometimes two of my monitors don't power back on after the computer sleeps. i can force them back on via xrandr though https://gist.github.com/sabrehagen/66da13e33820788270015305d8a385f9	10:20
sabrehagen	is there somewhere i can view the 'monitor' logs to look for any error messages?	10:20
Serdar1	how do I know, that I need bumblebee?	10:25
metaresolve	#postgresql	10:38
HexaChop	Hello everyone!	10:38
Speiros	Hey HexaChop:)	10:38
Speiros	I'm just about to go for about 20min, but I'll be back.	10:39
HexaChop	OK.	10:39
Speiros	I need food before it gets too late:)	10:39
Speiros	Ciao amici:)	10:39
HexaChop	Cya.	10:40
HexaChop	Somebody maybe wilking to help mw with that boot problem?	10:40
HexaChop	Willing*	10:41
cfhowlett	!ask \| HexaChop	10:41
ubottu	HexaChop: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience	10:41
tatertots	HexaChop: have you tried reset BIOS to defaults?	10:43
HexaChop	I am getting these errors on a UEFI Desktop Setup. I am trying to install ubuntu into an external harddrive using USB Live Version of Ubuntu. I can't get past this:	10:44
tatertots	HexaChop: have you tried reset BIOS to defaults?	10:44
ducasse	tatertots: maybe you should listen to what his problem actually is first?	10:45
HexaChop	tatertots, no because it would take me ages to reset everything because I need to set up watercooling and all that jazz.	10:45
HexaChop	Fot anybody new to my problem: http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu	10:46
HexaChop	For anybody new to my problem: http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu	10:46
ducasse	HexaChop: what kind of external disk?	10:47
tatertots	ducasse: he has links for the ppl that are new to his problem, that haven't heard about it over the last week or no with symptoms that occur across linux distributions.	10:47
tatertots	ducasse: enjoy the read	10:47
HexaChop	Adata NH13, Ducasse.	10:47
ducasse	HexaChop: never heard of. is this a standard usb -> sata thing?	10:48
HexaChop	Ducasse, yes, most of them are.	10:48
HexaChop	Ducasse, it is a laptop harddrive sized HDD put into it.	10:51
ledeni	HexaChop, witch laptop ?	10:52
ducasse	HexaChop: the specs even say it should work with linux, so i doubt there's anything funny there. the reason i asked is because the image you posted looks like a controller failure to me.	10:52
HexaChop	ledeni, I didn't open it, it is simply of the size of a laptop HDD put inside.	10:53
ledeni	HexaChop,laptop model	10:53
HexaChop	Ledeni, heh, you do not understand, do you. It came with it already in the external hdd box.	10:54
HexaChop	Ledeni, it connects the HDD inside via sata + it shows activity via LEDs.	10:55
ledeni	HexaChop,i just asking company of laptop and model	10:55
HexaChop	Ledeni, it didn't come from a laptop, it came from factory as a one solid piece with HDD already inside the box.	10:57
cfhowlett	hexchop so this is a custom build then?	10:58
ducasse	HexaChop: i think he's trying to ask about what the disk is connected to - is it a laptop, if so - which?	10:58
ledeni	HexaChop,it is laptop or desktop	10:58
serdar	hi all	11:01
PSUser2	if i'm a normal user ($) how can I use up arrow in terminal to retrieve a previous command?	11:01
serdar	I have a strange behaviour. I create xorg.conf with nvidia-xconfig, but everythime I restart lightdm it gets overwritten	11:02
HexaChop	Ledeni, take a look at the HDD online, all of the specs are there, mate.	11:03
EriC^^	PSUser2: as usual	11:03
MonkeyDust	PSUser2 hitting the up arrow is the normal way	11:03
ledeni	HexaChop,it is laptop or desktop?	11:03
cfhowlett	he's gone, ledeni	11:04
HexaChop	Who's gone?	11:04
PSUser2	I need to assign bash instead of shell, i didn't know, i just found out	11:05
cfhowlett	HexaChop, you've been here almost 30 minutes and have yet to explain the most basic questions. read the details and try again	11:05
ducasse	HexaChop: nobody is asking about the disk, forget the disk - what is it connected to?	11:05
cfhowlett	!details \| Hexachop	11:05
ubottu	Hexachop: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.	11:05
ducasse	PSUser2: 'chsh /bin/bash'	11:05
HexaChop	Ducasse, what should I do, mate?	11:06
MonkeyDust	PSUser2 what's the outcome of env\|grep SHELL	11:06
* ducasse throws in the towel		11:06
PSUser2	i've fixed it with this: sudo chsh -s /bin/bash <username>	11:07
cfhowlett	HexaChop, you have an interesting problem. refusing to give sufficient details is demotivating to helpers. I'm out, too.	11:07
HexaChop	Cfhowlett, what kinds of details you need?	11:08
ducasse	HexaChop: you've been asked about ten times what kind of machine this is.	11:08
HexaChop	Cfhowlett, I got disconnected, sorry.	11:08
HexaChop	Ducasse, Desktop UEFI.	11:09
* cfhowlett suspects games are being played ...		11:09
ducasse	yeah...	11:09
HexaChop	Cfhowlett, what is my reason to play games? Seriously, bro...	11:09
HexaChop	So, it is hand-built, no branding, UEFI Desktop PC.	11:11
HexaChop	I can tell you the specs if you so wish, ducasse, cfhowlett, because the PC is hand-built by me, there is no branding...	11:12
ledeni	HexaChop,and you trying to install ubuntu(please tell us version ) on external usb hdrive	11:12
ducasse	HexaChop: motherboard?	11:13
HexaChop	Ledeni, latest version, 16,10. Yes.	11:13
HexaChop	Ducasse, Asus Maximus VIII Extreme.	11:13
EriC^^	HexaChop: what's the problem?	11:13
HexaChop	EriC^^, http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu	11:13
ducasse	EriC^^: does that look like controller problems to you too?	11:14
EriC^^	ducasse: no idea	11:15
* EriC^^ googles now..		11:15
Speiros	How are things HexaChop?	11:15
EriC^^	HexaChop: is it a normal hdd?	11:15
HexaChop	EriC^^, no, external.	11:16
MonkeyDust	HexaChop use this command sudo lshw -html > ~/Desktop/hardware.html	11:16
ledeni	HexaChop,try Change the SATA port for the optical drive	11:16
HexaChop	Speiros, same problem, mate.	11:16
HexaChop	Ledeni, for CD ROM?	11:16
EriC^^	HexaChop: how	11:16
EriC^^	how's it connected?	11:16
EriC^^	HexaChop: you said it's an asus?	11:17
HexaChop	EriC^^, via usb port, Adata NH13.	11:17
HexaChop	EriC^^, motherboard, yes.	11:17
EriC^^	reading here, seems might be related http://askubuntu.com/questions/228927/boot-failure-failed-command-identify-packet-device	11:18
HexaChop	EriC^^, HDD Adata NH13.	11:18
EriC^^	try changing the sata port for the optical drive like someone mentioned above	11:19
Speiros	EriC^^ How did you call the article?	11:19
EriC^^	you mean how'd i find it?	11:20
Speiros	yep:)	11:20
EriC^^	i searched for this string in google "no sprom ubuntu failed command activate packet device"	11:20
HexaChop	25	11:20
HexaChop	I always get thrown out.	11:20
HexaChop	Why?	11:20
EriC^^	HexaChop: try changing the sata port for the optical drive like someone mentioned above	11:20
Speiros	EriC^^Ah, okay. I never thought of chasing the code problem.	11:20
EriC^^	Speiros: yeah it helps like 90% of the time or more	11:21
HexaChop	EriC^^ CD-ROM?	11:21
EriC^^	HexaChop: yeah	11:21
Speiros	EriC^^Good to know. Thanks.	11:21
EriC^^	Speiros: :)	11:21
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WildPenguin	which is the DE most preferred among Ubuntu users/	11:23
WildPenguin	?	11:23
EriC^^	WildPenguin: who knows	11:23
cfhowlett	why?	11:23
cfhowlett	as in ""why do you care what others use?" when you should be using the system that works for YOU.	11:24
WildPenguin	was just curious to know. Actually I wanted to know which one is more active and up to date with the latest features.	11:24
cfhowlett	WildPenguin, ask #ubuntu-offtopic	11:25
WildPenguin	ok	11:25
MonkeyDust	WildPenguin these are the most common http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ#cMfLqdM	11:25
WildPenguin	ok. thanks a lot.	11:26
Speiros	Hmm, interesting. I didn't realise there were options.	11:26
WildPenguin	I am buying a new laptop this week and intend to install Ubuntu on it. That's why I wanted to know that.	11:26
HexaChop	EriC^^, my SATAs are burried under GPUs.	11:30
ledeni	HexaChop, you use dvd or usb stick with ubuntu install media?	11:32
EriC^^	HexaChop: if you boot 10 times it might boot once correctly, then you can add that line in that thread	11:33
HexaChop	EriC^^, switched ports.	11:36
HexaChop	That wasn't very easy. EriC^^.	11:37
neeca	<- noob here: if i want(need) to code in java, should i use openJDK or the oracle thingy? :3	11:37
EriC^^	HexaChop: did it work?	11:38
l0llip0p	neeca: for learning basics openJDK should do the trick.	11:39
HexaChop	EriC^^, even different errors now.	11:39
EriC^^	neeca: try #java	11:39
Speiros	What are the new errors HexaChop?	11:39
ledeni	HexaChop, try to unplug my DVD ROM drive	11:39
HexaChop	Ledeni, Speiros, uploading photo.	11:40
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ledeni	HexaChop, try to unplug DVD ROM drive	11:40
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HexaChop	http://m.imgur.com/gallery/GJRRG, ledeni, Speiros, EriC^^	11:41
EriC^^	HexaChop: google says it might be a power supply issue	11:43
EriC^^	do you have another one you could try?	11:43
HexaChop	EriC^^, srsly? No, I don't.	11:43
ledeni	HexaChop,try to set nouveau.modeset=0 at the end of the linux line in the pre boot settings as well as I had also been getting errors related to that. To do that you press "e" at the Grub menu to make this edit and press "F10" to apply and boot.	11:45
HexaChop	http://m.imgur.com/gallery/nTPQ4	11:46
HexaChop	Before Friday grub edit.	11:46
HexaChop	Autocorrect put Friday there...	11:47
HexaChop	EriC^^, IT STARTED., ledeni.	11:49
EriC^^	HexaChop: with the nouveau.modeset=0 ?	11:49
HexaChop	But now I get HDMI Not In Optimum Mode....	11:49
HexaChop	EriC^^, yes.	11:49
HexaChop	EriC^^, now I get Npt Optimum Mode.	11:49
EriC^^	HexaChop: ok, try updating the kernel after installing and get a good working driver for the graphics card	11:50
HexaChop	EriC^^, HDMI not optimum mode.	11:50
EriC^^	HexaChop: have you installed already or is this the live usb?	11:50
HexaChop	EriC^^, live USB.	11:50
EriC^^	HexaChop: ok, install first, then fix it	11:51
PCatinean	hey guys if i can do pip install -r req.txt how can i do so with a txt file online?	11:51
PCatinean	basically pull the content out and pass it to pip like it was a local resource	11:51
HexaChop	EriC^^, it shows black screen with HDMI NOT IN OPTIMUM MODE.	11:52
EriC^^	PCatinean: pip install -r $(wget -qO- http://req.txt)	11:52
PCatinean	wget -qO, ohh thanks EriC^^	11:52
EriC^^	PCatinean: ah wait	11:53
PCatinean	I've been using $() for some time, not sure how it works	11:53
EriC^^	PCatinean: i think you need the pip command to actually treat it as a file	11:53
EriC^^	PCatinean: the $() will just run the command and replace the line with the output	11:54
PCatinean	cool	11:54
EriC^^	so it'll be like pip install -r line1 of req.txt line2 of req2.txt	11:54
EriC^^	(it won't work)	11:54
EriC^^	the >() runs a command and makes it treat it as a file	11:55
EriC^^	a very easy way would be to just do wget -O /tmp/req.txt http://req.txt && pip install -r /tmp/req.txt	11:55
HexaChop	EriC^^, help...	11:55
EriC^^	otherwise i think you need to use >() or <() or <<<	11:56
linux123	hi	11:57
HexaChop	EriC^^, I've actually booten into ubuntu.	11:58
EriC^^	HexaChop: install it	11:58
Speiros	Nice:)	11:58
HexaChop	Speiros, thanks. :).	11:59
* cfhowlett respectfully dips his fedora at EriC^^ - nicely done!		11:59
HexaChop	EriC^^, OK.	11:59
linux123	Do you like unity?	11:59
cfhowlett	linux123, wrong channel - ask in #ubuntu-offtopic	11:59
Speiros	Just glad for you mate:)	12:00
HexaChop	Speiros, not yet. It froze on prepare to install ubuntu. EriC^^?	12:00
Speiros	Ok. Still, working through the jungle there HexaChop it appears.	12:01
k1l_	HexaChop: did you try to uncable the dvd drive?	12:01
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HexaChop	It unfroze, everyone.	12:03
EriC^^	cfhowlett: thanks :D	12:03
HexaChop	http://m.imgur.com/gallery/Nrs58, what to hit, EriC^^?	12:03
EriC^^	cfhowlett: (i didn't solve the problem though, i think lineri's advice helped)	12:04
EriC^^	HexaChop: click on yes	12:04
HexaChop	Speiros, yep. definitely.	12:04
HexaChop	EriC^^, done.	12:05
shadow_hunter	hi!	12:05
Speiros	Nice one. Looks like you're on your way to being able to play on the Ubuntu system. Thank goodness you got past that horrible stick.	12:05
Speiros	Good work to all the folks on here for your efforts and experience, and the fact that you're willing to help us lesser knowledgeable ones in these areas with sharing it.	12:06
HexaChop	EriC^^, http://m.imgur.com/gallery/ULK5S	12:06
shadow_hunter	Anyone know how to install ubuntu touch generic in my mobile?	12:06
cfhowlett	!touch \| shadow_hunter	12:07
ubottu	shadow_hunter: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch	12:07
EriC^^	HexaChop: do you have another OS installed on the hdd?	12:07
HexaChop	On the HDD, no, but on other HDDs, yes,	12:08
shadow_hunter	ubotuu: ok, thanks	12:08
EriC^^	HexaChop: other hdds which are connected all the time and you use to boot other OS?	12:08
HexaChop	EriC^^, basically.	12:08
EriC^^	HexaChop: the thing is, there's uefi mode and bios mode, if you install an OS in a mode, and another in a different mode, you have to switch it in the bios every time you want to boot the different one	12:09
EriC^^	HexaChop: what OS is installed in the other hdd?	12:09
HexaChop	EriC^^, Windows 10.	12:09
EriC^^	it's probably uefi	12:10
fund	(fund) Is it possible to boot system from system image back up usb drive?	12:10
EriC^^	HexaChop: click on continue in uefi mode	12:10
fund	Windows 8.1	12:10
HexaChop	EriC^^, are you sure, mate?	12:10
EriC^^	HexaChop: yeah it's not a big deal	12:10
EriC^^	you can always convert to bios mode or reinstall in bios mode later	12:10
HexaChop	EriC^^, true.	12:11
EriC^^	HexaChop: are the other hdd's connected right now?	12:11
EriC^^	you could check windows in which mode it's installed	12:11
HexaChop	EriC^^, nope, only on Power Supply.	12:11
Speiros	HexaChop so there is dependency between this HDD and the others? Or not?	12:12
EriC^^	HexaChop: ok, no biggie	12:12
HexaChop	Speiros, what do you mean?	12:12
rodolfo	Guys, can someone shed some light into this: Is it possible/How to remove the bottom panel (Gnome 3.18)?	12:13
Speiros	HexaChop From what I'm seeing being said, and according to the screenshots, It seems your HDD you're putting Ubuntu on has boot information for the other HDD's. Is that a wrong conclusion on my part?	12:13
fund	(fund) (fund) Vmware possible to use from thumb drive?	12:13
cfhowlett	!vmware \| fund	12:13
ubottu	fund: VMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware	12:13
HexaChop	Speiros, I use SSD as a main HDD.	12:14
HexaChop	EriC^^, how to make 2 partitions?	12:14
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EriC^^	HexaChop: you want a separate /home?	12:14
HexaChop	Eric^^, yeah. OS on one partition, user stuff on the other.	12:15
fund	Virtual box or qemu possible to use from thumb drive?	12:15
EriC^^	HexaChop: click on "Something else" in the installer	12:15
cfhowlett	fund, explain	12:15
HexaChop	EriC^^, already did, mate.	12:15
MonkeyDust	fund i'm not getting it either	12:15
MonkeyDust	fund start from the beginning, what are you doing or trying to do	12:16
fund	I don't have enough space in hard disk for virtualization	12:16
EriC^^	HexaChop: ok, click on the + sign at the bottom left and make a main partition, ext4 mounted at "/" , then the home partition ext4 mounted at /home then the swap if you want hibernation	12:16
fund	So Want to use external pen drive	12:17
EriC^^	fund: so connect it and format it and use it	12:17
fund	cfhowlett MonkeyDust	12:17
HexaChop	EriC^^, sizes?	12:17
fund	Format by ntfs or fat32?	12:17
EriC^^	HexaChop: the root one needs like 10g minimum, 20g and the rest for home would be great and give a little cushion	12:18
EriC^^	maybe 15gb for root if you need the space more	12:18
HexaChop	EriC^^, swap size?	12:18
Speiros	rodolfo, I'm not sure mate, but someone will be able to look into it in time:)	12:18
EriC^^	swap as large as your ram	12:18
EriC^^	HexaChop: are you going to use hibernation?	12:18
PCatinean	EriC^^, works with curl -q url :D	12:18
HexaChop	EriC^^, definitely.	12:19
EriC^^	-q?	12:19
EriC^^	PCatinean: wasn't it -s for silence?	12:19
EriC^^	PCatinean: what do you mean?	12:19
rodolfo	Speiros, thank you anyway. I've been fighting GNOME using DConf, GConf, Gnome-tweak-tool, Shell extension, you name it... and no results. :-/	12:19
EriC^^	HexaChop: ok make the swap as large as your ram	12:20
EriC^^	HexaChop: and a little more like 100-200mbs more	12:20
Speiros	I'm just having a look now to see if anything in the past has come up about it rodolfo	12:20
HexaChop	EriC^^, I will give it 2gb more.	12:20
EriC^^	HexaChop: nah it's alot	12:20
EriC^^	how much ram do you have?	12:21
Speiros	rodolfo Here's a link where someone had the same problem in 14.4: http://askubuntu.com/questions/565851/how-to-get-rid-of-the-bottom-panel-in-gnome-3-classic-session	12:21
HexaChop	EriC^^, 32GB.	12:21
EriC^^	HexaChop: yikes	12:21
EriC^^	that's a lot for a swap	12:21
HexaChop	EriC^^, home partition logical or primary?	12:22
EriC^^	shouldn't matter cause the partition table type should be gpt	12:22
EriC^^	HexaChop: try opening a terminal and typing "sudo parted -l" and check the partition table type	12:23
Speiros	rodolfo read through it though, before applying it, as one person stated that it didn't work, but that's at the end of the explanation, and then they said it worked when they deleted it.	12:23
Sircle	there used to be a "PC suite" for symbion phones, isnt there a similer by google for android? Is there a software for PC /Linux that would pair with my android phone and I be able to send SMS via native android SMS app internally via copy paste in my computer?	12:23
rodolfo	Speiros, thanks for the link, I tried that as well. I followed guidelines, forum threads/posts from 2, 3, 4 and even 5 years ago. None worked out. It's almost as if the Gnome team did now want their panel to be removed at all this time.	12:23
Speiros	I see rodolfo. What about the javascript extension it speaks of?	12:24
HexaChop	EriC^^ where to look after the command?	12:24
Speiros	HexaChop Press enter	12:24
HexaChop	Speiros, I did that already, mate.	12:25
Speiros	Oh, after you've typed your password into sudo	12:25
EriC^^	HexaChop: Partition table: 4th line	12:25
HexaChop	EriC^^, MsDos.	12:25
EriC^^	ah	12:25
EriC^^	HexaChop: you need to create a fresh gpt one	12:25
EriC^^	close the installer	12:25
MonkeyDust	Sircle there's wammu/gammu	12:25
EriC^^	then type sudo gdisk /dev/sda if that's the name of the hdd	12:26
HexaChop	EriC^^, how?	12:26
EriC^^	^	12:26
HexaChop	Oh yeah.	12:26
EriC^^	after gdisk opens, press "o" then "w" then quit	12:26
EriC^^	HexaChop: it'll erase everything on the disk	12:27
Speiros	rodolpho So as root, have you been able to go into the file to see the panel?	12:27
HexaChop	EriC^^, what if deletes USB instead?	12:28
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EriC^^	HexaChop: nah it won't, make sure the name (/dev/sda) is the same one you got in sudo parted -l	12:28
rodolfo	Speiros, in a nutshell: the javascript extension contains what seems to be a shell extension, which cannot be toggled on or off because Firefox outputs the "Attempt to postMessage on disconnected port." error message. I tried Konotopov's solution following this link: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754316 It seems it worked, but this time I get another error code: "File closed".	12:29
ubottu	Gnome bug 754316 in Browser extension "GNOME Shell Integration Plugin Crashed on Firefox with electrolysis enabled" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]	12:29
HexaChop	EriC^^, Create blank GPT, Create GPT, Create MBR?	12:29
EriC^^	HexaChop: create blank gpt	12:30
HexaChop	EriC^^, k.	12:30
Speiros	rodolfo Ok.	12:30
HexaChop	EriC^^, now it asks for command.	12:30
rodolfo	Speiros, Is there an other way to make Gnome Shell "detect and accept" the javascript extension?	12:31
EriC^^	HexaChop: press "w"	12:31
HexaChop	EriC^^, done.	12:31
EriC^^	HexaChop: press "q"	12:32
Speiros	rodolfo There seems to be another link on Ubuntu. Do you want to see the link?	12:32
HexaChop	EriC^^, the program can be found in following packages.	12:32
Speiros	rodolfo Sorry, on askubuntu.com	12:33
rodolfo	Speiros, sure. Is it more recent?	12:33
Speiros	No, it's just over 2.25 years old.	12:33
Speiros	http://askubuntu.com/questions/75530/how-to-install-gnome-shell-extensions rodolfo	12:33
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EriC^^	HexaChop: ok, try sudo partprobe then sudo parted -l again and see if the partition type changed	12:34
rodolfo	Speiros, I'll look into it.	12:34
Speiros	rodolfo Ok, best wishes with it.	12:34
HexaChop	EriC^^, gpt now.	12:34
EriC^^	HexaChop: cool, start the installer again and same thing	12:35
kc9iid	Good morning everyone.	12:35
HexaChop	EriC^^, k, thanks, bro.	12:35
Speiros	:) Hi kc9iid	12:35
EriC^^	HexaChop: no problem	12:35
rodolfo	Speiros, the link you mentioned provides information on how to install extensions from the official repository and from the Gnome-shell Extensions website. Any idea on how to manually install an extension [the one from Askubuntu you mentioned previously]?	12:36
Speiros	rodolfo Oh, I see. Sorry. I thought the tool would help, but didn't realise it was just for already existing extensions.	12:37
kc9iid	Sorry, trying to get text to appear in a lighter color.	12:37
HexaChop	EriC^^, need a screenshot?	12:38
EriC^^	HexaChop: sure wouldn't hurt	12:38
EriC^^	*sure, wouldn't hurt	12:38
HexaChop	EriC^^, Here. http://m.imgur.com/gallery/BUDUo	12:41
Speiros	rodolfo Here's one more that might help. It has a person making their extension, and then calling it to where they want it. Does this help? https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/Extensions/StepByStepTutorial	12:41
Speiros	rodolfo Just past half-way I think.	12:42
australopithecus	hello I am trying to run a script from start up with the following command xrandr -s 6, I wrote a script called http://pastebin.com/xiwPFdGs and saved it as scale_display.sh I try to run the script from terminal and it wont work, I added it to crontab -e, and it also doesnt work	12:43
australopithecus	can someone tell me what I am doing wrong	12:43
australopithecus	I just added to the crontab -e the scripts location, but even when I try to run it from terminal it doesnt work	12:44
australopithecus	the (script that is)	12:44
MonkeyDust	australopithecus you have to chmod +x the file	12:44
rodolfo	Speiros, On it. I tried this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/196884/how-to-install-gnome-shell-extensions-offline the person who provided the solution suggested to put the extension file inside the ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ directory but there is no "gnome-shell" in my share folder.	12:44
HexaChop	EriC^^, here. http://m.imgur.com/gallery/BUDUo	12:44
EriC^^	HexaChop: looks good	12:45
HexaChop	EriC^^, ok, hit next?	12:45
EriC^^	HexaChop: yeah	12:45
australopithecus	awesome monkeydust, was wondering if you could give me an explanation for this, you are just modifying the permission correct?	12:45
australopithecus	if not that is fine too, I appreciate your help a lot	12:45
australopithecus	thank you	12:45
EriC^^	HexaChop: you can make the swap 32gb if you want it won't matter	12:46
Sircle	MonkeyDust: wammu does not detects my phone	12:46
Speiros	rodolfo Ok...where is your gnome-shell folder located?	12:47
Speiros	rodolfo Or is there none?	12:47
rodolfo	Speiros, there is none. I tried starting gnome-shell using the Terminal, which output "Window manager warning: Display ":0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager.Segmentation fault	12:48
rodolfo	"	12:48
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rodolfo	Speiros, the tools I was struggling with are Dconf, Gconf, and Gnome-tweak-tool. I guess I'll add gnome-shell to the mix and see how it goes.	12:50
Speiros	rodolfo Yes, fair enough. Sorry rodolfo I can't find the solution. What do you mean tools you were struggling with? Using to troubleshoot?	12:52
rodolfo	Speiros, Yeah. And after trying to install gnome-shell, the terminal confirms it's ALREADY installed: "gnome-shell is already the newest version (3.18.5-0ubuntu0.2)." I don't see where the gnome-shell folder is located though.	12:53
Speiros	rodolfo Technically, that's progress. Just need to find it.	12:53
HexaChop	EriC^^, I am getting same error with UEFI, but now it is EFI.	12:54
Speiros	Can you do a search? I think if you're signed in as root, you can search, even if you can't edit, but at least you can find it and log the path.	12:54
EriC^^	HexaChop: no problem, click on continue	12:54
EriC^^	HexaChop: oh you mean a different one, what's the error this time?	12:54
rodolfo	Speiros, I just did using my file manager as root. Nothing.	12:54
HexaChop	EriC^^, lemme upload.	12:55
Speiros	rodolfo Okay.	12:55
Speiros	I don't know the commands to ask for the path for a specific folder.	12:55
EriC^^	HexaChop: k	12:55
MonkeyDust	Sircle https://wammu.eu/phones/	12:56
australopithecus	ok so I want to run the following command on startup xrandr -s 6'	12:56
rodolfo	Speiros, running out of ideas here. Is there a way to talk to anyone from the Gnome team on IRC?	12:56
Speiros	rodolfo That's a good idea...there's a #gnome channel	12:57
HexaChop	EriC^^ it says upload error.	12:57
australopithecus	ok so I want to run the following command on startup 'xrandr -s 6' to scale ubuntu Mate 16.1 to my display, I wrote a script with only this command in it scale_display.sh how do I add this to startup, I read I can use upstart anyone have a good guide on how to use it or if it is applicable for this case?, I also tried adding it to crontab -e, by adding '@reboot /path/to/script/scale_display.sh' and it didnt work	12:58
EriC^^	HexaChop: what's the error say roughly?	12:58
ioria	australopithecus, i'd use a lightdm hook	12:59
australopithecus	how do i do that ioria?	13:00
ioria	australopithecus, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Adding_System_Hooks	13:00
HexaChop	The partition table format in use on your disks normally requires you to create a separate partition for boot loader code. This partition should be marked for use as an efi boot partition and should be at least 35mb... EriC^^.	13:00
EriC^^	HexaChop: oh damn	13:00
EriC^^	my bad..	13:00
EriC^^	HexaChop: i completely forgot about creating the efi partition	13:00
australopithecus	where is the path to the file I need to edit?	13:01
HexaChop	EriC^^, don't do that again, please.	13:01
EriC^^	HexaChop: lol :P	13:01
australopithecus	ok nvm lol	13:01
EriC^^	HexaChop: can you go back to the partition table screen?	13:01
australopithecus	sorry ioria, also thank you for your help	13:01
HexaChop	EriC^^, Yep.	13:02
ioria	australopithecus, ok	13:02
EriC^^	HexaChop: ok, make a 300mb partition type efi	13:02
australopithecus	Do I edit this file /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/*.conf file ioria right? It gives two options	13:03
amrmondy	hello	13:03
HexaChop	EriC^^, done it is of 1GB.	13:04
australopithecus	oh you just make a file got it	13:04
EriC^^	HexaChop: that's huge	13:04
amrmondy	Hello	13:04
amrmondy	anyone here ?	13:04
HexaChop	EriC^^, my PC is huge.	13:04
MonkeyDust	amrmondy type /n	13:05
EriC^^	HexaChop: lol :D	13:05
Speiros	Hello amrmondy	13:05
cfhowlett	amrmondy, ask your ubuntu questions	13:05
Speiros	Lots of us here.	13:05
EriC^^	HexaChop: ok, continue with the install	13:05
amrmondy	really i am happy for this support	13:05
amrmondy	nice jop guys	13:05
amrmondy	BTW i am from Egypt	13:05
Speiros	:) How can we help? Welcome to you from Australia here:)	13:06
MonkeyDust	amrmondy thank you for sharing your deepest feelings with the channel, but confine yourself to actual ubuntu questions	13:06
amrmondy	guys do you know about Docker Containers ?	13:06
amrmondy	?	13:06
ff_	~a	13:07
cfhowlett	!details \| amrmondy "does anyone ...?" questions are a huge waste of time. be specific. be concise. state your issues.	13:08
ubottu	amrmondy "does anyone ...?" questions are a huge waste of time. be specific. be concise. state your issues.: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.	13:08
MonkeyDust	amrmondy there's also the channel #docker	13:08
rodolfo	Speiros I guess I'll have to wait. I've just been told by a friend those devs from the Gnome channel are less likely to answer. sigh	13:08
Speiros	rodolfo Sorry mate. I did find though an old terminal command, but I tried it and it didn't work on my computer.	13:09
rodolfo	Speiros, what is it?	13:09
HexaChop	EriC^^, are u a dev or something?	13:09
Speiros	It's on this article. There's a couple of them. http://superuser.com/questions/159290/finding-a-directory-in-a-linux-terminal	13:09
ioria	australopithecus, "if you want to override the system configured default session you should make a file /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-myconfig.conf"	13:09
EriC^^	HexaChop: nope	13:10
Speiros	EriC^^ Come on mate...we're all "something":D	13:10
ioria	australopithecus, inside [SeatDefaults] and display-setup-script=command	13:10
EriC^^	Speiros: in that sense yeah :D	13:10
HexaChop	EriC^^, you should become one	13:10
EriC^^	HexaChop: thanks, maybe one day a linux admin or something	13:11
HexaChop	EriC^^, np. You solved my issue like it was child's play.	13:12
=== rodolfo is now known as Rod_
EriC^^	HexaChop: yeah i've done this a couple times before :P	13:13
ff_	~infobot	13:13
EriC^^	you still have some stuff to do after the install though, so it always boots and the graphics are nice	13:13
lieber	hi	13:14
Rod_	Speiros Are you using the latest Gnome version?	13:14
lieber	angone?	13:14
lieber	anyone?	13:14
kk4ewt	lieber what	13:15
Speiros	Rod_I doubt it, although I updated.	13:15
EriC^^	HexaChop: once it installs, reboot with nouveau.modeset=0 again, and then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	13:15
HexaChop	EriC^^, how?	13:16
EriC^^	HexaChop: hold shift to get grub, then press "e" and add it in the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz ... quiet splash instead of quiet splash then press ctrl+x	13:17
EriC^^	HexaChop: you also might need to choose a different graphics driver, if you press on the dash and type drivers you'll get a program that shows what drivers you can try out, there's always the one at the nvidia site in case nothing works out	13:18
BluesKaj	Hey folks	13:20
HexaChop	EriC^^, what to do with quiet splash?	13:21
EriC^^	HexaChop: remove it and put nouveau.modeset=0	13:22
Speiros	Hi BluesKaj Is all well?	13:22
BluesKaj	hi Speiros, all is well here, and you?	13:23
HexaChop	EriC^^, what's next?	13:23
Speiros	BluesKaj Yes:) Do you have a question regarding your Ubuntu, or just keen to look on?	13:24
EriC^^	HexaChop: press ctrl+x	13:24
Herbalist	all is functioning within established parameters	13:24
BluesKaj	Speiros, i'm a regular here	13:24
HexaChop	EriC^^ it just adds X letter.	13:24
Speiros	BluesKaj Ah, okay. I"m a newbie, so "sorry 'bout that chief"	13:25
MonkeyDust	Speiros BluesKaj is one of the helpers	13:25
Speiros	MonkeyDust Cool:)	13:25
EriC^^	HexaChop: try f10	13:26
BluesKaj	Speiros, no need to be sorry, good to see users willing to help :-)	13:26
HexaChop	EriC^^, booting	13:26
Speiros	BluesKaj, Yeah, true.	13:26
guiverc	shoutout: anyone know where I could find b.quigley? (room, id?)	13:27
MonkeyDust	guiverc use /msg alis list	13:27
HexaChop	EriC^^, booted in but it is blurry.	13:27
theo_	I'm on XPS13 and getting tired of DisplayLinkManager running in the background randomly with CPU usage at 15%, is there a fix ?	13:28
EriC^^	HexaChop: ok, try ctrl+alt+t then sudo apt-get update	13:28
EriC^^	HexaChop: then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	13:28
Speiros	MonkeyDust In that command where does the username go?	13:28
guiverc	merci/danke/thanks heaps MonkeyDust	13:28
MonkeyDust	Speiros what command?	13:29
Speiros	the msg alis list one. I did it and only got 60 channels.	13:29
MonkeyDust	Speiros try /msg alis list firefox <-- just an example	13:29
Speiros	MonkeyDust Ok, thanks	13:30
HexaChop	EriC^^, could not get lock everywhere	13:30
MonkeyDust	alis is a bot, list is the command	13:30
EriC^^	HexaChop: try "ps aux \| grep dpkg"	13:30
Speiros	MonkeyDust Ah, cool. I see them.	13:30
EriC^^	HexaChop: does it look like it's installing something?	13:30
EriC^^	HexaChop: i just get this http://termbin.com/d1vp	13:31
HexaChop	EriC^^, you are a pro.	13:31
l0llip0p	!ping	13:32
ubottu	pong!	13:32
HexaChop	EriC^^ it tells me to run apt-get -f install	13:32
Speiros	MonkeyDust That command is good for finding a channel; is there one for finding a nick?	13:32
Australoptihecus	hello I resized my desktop with xrandr -s command and added to start up now I have the problem that I cant reduce the size of my top bar by less tan 17, so it looks huge, I dont want to just delete as I am worried it might mess with my set up, see: http://imgur.com/a/Oeynu	13:32
EriC^^	HexaChop: try running that	13:33
Australoptihecus	than*	13:33
EriC^^	Speiros: /whois <nick>	13:33
MonkeyDust	Speiros finding a nick inside a channel? use tab completion	13:33
Speiros	EriC^^ Okay.	13:33
HexaChop	EriC^^, installing.	13:34
Australoptihecus	I am using ubuntu MATE 16.1	13:34
EriC^^	HexaChop: ok	13:34
Speiros	Cool, I found me.	13:34
Speiros	I was lost, but now I'm found.	13:34
HexaChop	!ping	13:34
ubottu	pong!	13:34
EriC^^	Speiros: :D	13:35
HexaChop	Speiros, :DDDDDDDDDDDD	13:35
Speiros	HexaChop I think ubottu has a reputation of winning, normally 7:6	13:35
HexaChop	Speiros, nope, I won 20:7	13:36
schneider	I'm on Linux Mint 18.1 Serena with MATE, not ubuntu but I dont know where to ask. I cant figure out how to set monitor contrast on my laptop. Can someone help me?	13:36
Speiros	HexaChop Ok...no comment as I didn't see the match.	13:36
Speiros	:P	13:36
MonkeyDust	schneider mint is ot supported here	13:36
MonkeyDust	not*	13:36
cfhowlett	!mint \| schneider	13:37
ubottu	schneider: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org	13:37
HexaChop	Speiros, hehe.	13:37
schneider	cfhowlett thanks	13:37
cfhowlett	happy2help! schneider	13:37
HexaChop	EriC^^, tried installing package manager, it throws me with this: the package system is broken.	13:38
EriC^^	HexaChop: what? O.o	13:39
EriC^^	HexaChop: did you checksum the iso?	13:39
HexaChop	Check rhird party repositories and disable them	13:39
HexaChop	It says	13:39
HexaChop	Eric^^ ^	13:40
Australoptihecus	where are the top pannel settings saved in gnome 2?	13:40
Speiros	Australoptihecus, Here's a link I found which might help: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/208/panel-settings/	13:41
Australoptihecus	thanks speiros s	13:42
EriC^^	HexaChop: try "sudo apt-get -f install \| nc termbin.com 9999"	13:42
Speiros	:)	13:42
HexaChop	EriC^^, 9999, too?	13:42
Naive_Pixie	hello	13:42
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: hello	13:43
Naive_Pixie	I'm having trouble with something on linux. it's really frustrating me and nothing I have found online has fixed it yet!	13:43
Speiros	What is it?	13:43
Naive_Pixie	Type 'sudo' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list	13:44
Naive_Pixie	E: The list of sources could not be read.	13:44
EriC^^	HexaChop: yup	13:44
EriC^^	HexaChop: paste the link it gives you here	13:44
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: could you show "ls -al /etc/apt/souces.list.d/spotify.list" put it in paste bin	13:45
Naive_Pixie	I'm pretty new to this and from what I've read and tried I'm not the only one who's done it. but it's frustrating because I don't know how on earth to fix it. I can't open Ubuntu software or the updater either	13:45
Naive_Pixie	okay, one sec	13:45
HexaChop	I typed in sudo get-apt dis-upgrade -f	13:45
ioria	Naive_Pixie, http://askubuntu.com/questions/667801/type-sudo-is-not-known-in-source-list	13:46
Naive_Pixie	"ls -al /etc/apt/souces.list.d/spotify.list" ... ?	13:46
MonkeyDust	Naive_Pixie it may be policy kit related	13:47
Naive_Pixie	I need someone to talk me through how to fix it, I'm finding instructions online difficult to follow	13:48
HexaChop	EriC^^, look up. ^^^	13:48
Speiros	Naive_Pixie :) It can be frustrating.	13:49
Naive_Pixie	@MonkeyDust what does policy kit related mean exactly?	13:49
Naive_Pixie	Speiros it is haha! but I was slowly getting kinda good at it until I tried to install spotify.	13:50
EriC^^	HexaChop: it has typos, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	13:50
MonkeyDust	Naive_Pixie it's a service you can enable or disable, searching now where and how	13:50
MOUD	Hey all	13:50
Koskoz	Hi, I've got a network issue. I'm using the wifi, I'm not able to access any urls nor to ping them. But I can ping IPs. If I'm trying to reach an ip in the browser I only have the page's title loading.	13:50
HexaChop	EriC^^, it worked with the -f.	13:50
Speiros	Naive_Pixie Yeah, there are many factors eh.	13:50
EriC^^	HexaChop: cool	13:51
EriC^^	HexaChop: try opening the dash and typing drivers	13:51
Speiros	Koskoz How are you browsing?	13:51
Koskoz	Speiros: chrome or Firefox	13:51
treehug88	Koskoz also sounds like your DNS lookups aren't working	13:51
HexaChop	Eric^^, I hope that these drivers will have no interference with my Windows drivers...	13:52
Naive_Pixie	yeah hopefully I can fix it soon I've tried a few things but they all required sudo but it's not recognizing sudo as a 'thing' for lack of a better term	13:52
HexaChop	EriC^^, I can't find dash program.	13:53
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: Did you follow the instructions from spotify's page?	13:53
Koskoz	Treehug88: I tried setting 8.8.8.8 in the network manager but that doesn't work either	13:53
Naive_Pixie	Yup to the best of my knowledge I followed the instructions exactly Lollipop	13:53
EriC^^	HexaChop: it's the first icon in the launcher on the left	13:53
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: what ubuntu version do you use?	13:54
Speiros	HexaChop The swirly button top left	13:54
Naive_Pixie	14.04	13:54
treehug88	Koskoz look at this: http://www.tecmint.com/8-linux-nslookup-commands-to-troubleshoot-dns-domain-name-server/	13:54
HexaChop	EriC^^, k, there is Additional Drivers and Software & Updates.	13:54
EriC^^	HexaChop: ok click on additional drivers	13:55
MOUD	I'm trying to update all my ubuntu software and O.S. using Ubuntu Software, but whenever I click install, it seems to start installing, then the progress bar will get stuck at around 20%, after several minutes the option "install" is clickable again. Is there a fix?	13:55
treehug88	MOUD check the logs	13:55
MOUD	treehug88, where are the logs?	13:55
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: hmn .. Have thought about upgrading your system?	13:55
HexaChop	EriC^^ what next?	13:55
treehug88	MOUD start with /var/log/system.log (I think that's what it's called on ubuntu/debian	13:56
Naive_Pixie	I wouldn't have a clue how to do that. and right now this is all I hav	13:56
Naive_Pixie	have	13:56
HexaChop	EriC^^, my PC needed to restart to apply updates.	13:56
cfhowlett	MOUD, what verion of ubuntu are you on?	13:57
Speiros	Naive_Pixie You mentioned being walked through this, according to the instructions on the page. Are you happy to go through it one step at a time?	13:57
HexaChop	EriC^^, now all I see is a black screen...	13:57
EriC^^	HexaChop: aha, press ctrl+alt+del	13:57
EriC^^	HexaChop: actually	13:57
Naive_Pixie	Yes Speiros that's exactly what would help :)	13:57
EriC^^	hold that thought, try ctrl+alt+f1	13:57
Speiros	Naive_Pixie I don't know what you're doing, but at least we can log what is happening along the way, and someone else can help.	13:58
Koskoz	In /etc/network/interfaces I only got two lines: iface lo and auto lo	13:58
Speiros	Ok.	13:58
HexaChop	EriC^^, screen is black, mate.	13:58
Koskoz	Should I have something related to wifi?	13:58
Speiros	Let me back up, and we'll go through form the beginning.	13:58
EriC^^	HexaChop: np, try ctrl+alt+del then hold shift to get grub	13:58
Naive_Pixie	I can copy paste the issue I'm having,	13:58
Naive_Pixie	it's in my terminal.	13:58
HexaChop	EriC^^, I am in grub now.	13:58
MonkeyDust	Naive_Pixie http://paste.ubuntu.com/	13:59
HexaChop	EriC^^, nouveau.modset=0 again?	13:59
Speiros	Naive_Pixie, Yes, please upload it to the link MonkeyDust just typed.	13:59
Naive_Pixie	yes I've been on there Monkey, usually I can work it out but right now either the script on there isn't working or I'm using the wrong one or just doing it wrong somehow	14:00
Naive_Pixie	oh you mean upload it to the site?	14:00
Speiros	Yes:)	14:00
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: yes and give us the url for your pastes	14:00
Speiros	That way people don't get code congestion...if there's such an expression.	14:00
Naive_Pixie	okay hang on	14:00
MOUD	cfhowlett, 16.04	14:01
Speiros	If not code-congestion(C)	14:01
Speiros	:D	14:01
Speiros	Just kidding	14:01
cfhowlett	MOUD, let's leave the graphical update for now. more info will be available from using the terminal so open one up	14:01
MOUD	cfhowlett, it's open	14:02
EriC^^	HexaChop: yup	14:02
HexaChop	EriC^^ why it takes forever to load?	14:02
cfhowlett	MOUD, sudo apt update \| pastebinit && sudo apt full-upgrade \| pastebinit	14:02
MOUD	cfhowlett, need to install pastebin	14:03
cfhowlett	MOUD, nope sudo apt update \| nc termbin.com 9999	14:03
EriC^^	HexaChop: does it mention any errors?	14:03
HexaChop	EriC^^, i get a lot of code then a huge 00 type code and repeats.	14:03
EriC^^	HexaChop: aha	14:04
Naive_Pixie	ah	14:04
Naive_Pixie	http://paste.ubuntu.com/23764254/	14:04
Speiros	Naive_Pixie, Excellent:)	14:04
Naive_Pixie	I think I've successfully done what you meant!	14:05
Speiros	Yes	14:05
MOUD	cfhowlett, it's stuck in the first line: "http://termbin.com/ix94"	14:05
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: It says that you dont have spotify.list in your repositories	14:05
yeats	Naive_Pixie: remove the "." before /etc	14:05
Naive_Pixie	oh also, my Ubuntu Software Center is refusing to open, and the updater isn't working either.	14:05
Eddard	please help me	14:06
Eddard	my ub8untu	14:06
Eddard	going to sick	14:06
EriC^^	HexaChop: we'll deal with it later, first thing getting the driver working and maybe it'll solve it too	14:06
cfhowlett	!help \| Eddard	14:06
ubottu	Eddard: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience	14:06
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: I think they are going to work after we fix this	14:06
EriC^^	HexaChop: when it boots type "sudo ubuntu-drivers list \| nc termbin.com 9999"	14:06
Naive_Pixie	okay so I need to remove the ".", anything else?	14:07
Naive_Pixie	Lollipop that sounds good to me!	14:07
cfhowlett	MOUD, is this kali OS	14:07
Speiros	Naive_Pixie, The problems may be all related	14:07
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: Could you show us "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"	14:07
Eddard	help me to fix my ubuntu 16.04 LTs , stuck in login menu? please answer fast because im going to sick	14:07
MOUD	cfhowlett, no, Ubuntu 16.04 but I added the Kali repositories.	14:07
EriC^^	Eddard: does the guest account work?	14:08
yeats	Naive_Pixie: did you try the sed command again? (I would recommend removing the "-i" so it doesn't actually edit the file until you know it's going to work)	14:08
cfhowlett	MOUD, well, if it's sticking on line one, I suspect the mirror might be down for the moment. try a different mirror	14:08
Speiros	Eddard We will try to answer you as best as we can, but speed isn't recommended as errors happen when people rush. It'll be okay.	14:08
Naive_Pixie	one sec guys one thing at a time. lollipop I'm pasting it now :) then I'll try you're idea yeats	14:08
yeats	MOUD: bad idea to mix repos from different distros	14:08
MOUD	cfhowlett, shouldn't ubuntu just skip if it's not on?	14:08
cfhowlett	MOUD, depends	14:09
MOUD	yeats, I didn't know. But I wanted some programs that are available on kali, that's why I added the repo.	14:09
Naive_Pixie	http://paste.ubuntu.com/23764373/	14:09
MOUD	cfhowlett, so what do you recommend?	14:10
yeats	MOUD: yeah, that's not the way to do it - look for Ubuntu PPAs for the individual apps or install from source	14:10
yeats	MOUD: or just try out kali separately	14:10
cfhowlett	moud what HE said.	14:10
Speiros	Hmmm, line 16?	14:10
cfhowlett	MOUD, but to your specific issue, switch mirrors	14:10
MOUD	yeats, cfhowlett, ok, will do that later.	14:10
MOUD	cfhowlett, ok, I'll check.	14:11
Eddard	ok i will waiting for the best answer and hope the answer fix my problems	14:11
EriC^^	Eddard: does the guest account work?	14:11
cfhowlett	MOUD, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors	14:11
HexaChop	Im back	14:11
EriC^^	HexaChop: wb	14:11
Eddard	nope	14:11
HexaChop	EriC^^, my tablet shut off.	14:12
Naive_Pixie	Yeats: it came up with unknown command	14:12
EriC^^	Eddard: is it a fresh install or it worked before?	14:12
EriC^^	HexaChop: np	14:12
Speiros	l0llip0p, What are your thoughts on line 16?	14:12
Eddard	fresh install	14:12
Naive_Pixie	Lollipop: did you get my paste?'	14:12
EriC^^	HexaChop: try "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices \| nc termbin.com 9999"	14:12
HexaChop	EriC^^, maybe yo	14:12
Speiros	Naive_Pixie, Your paste was clear:)	14:13
EriC^^	Eddard: does ctrl+alt+f1 work?	14:13
HexaChop	EriC^^, I can't get past grub again.	14:13
EriC^^	HexaChop: why not?	14:13
Eddard	it does	14:13
Naive_Pixie	so basically the script that is on Ubuntu help doesn't work and I have no idea why	14:13
EriC^^	Eddard: type "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log \| nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link it gives you here	14:13
HexaChop	EriC^^, I get a lot of text then 00 55 type code and repeats as an infinite cycle.	14:14
Eddard	ill try	14:14
EriC^^	HexaChop: can you take a screenshot of it?	14:14
HexaChop	EriC^^, ok.	14:14
Speiros	Naive_Pixie, I can see a typo on line 16, but I'm not sure whether it's an intentional one, or actually a typo.	14:14
EriC^^	HexaChop: ok, cool	14:14
yeats	Naive_Pixie: can you pastebin the command you ran and the full output?	14:15
Naive_Pixie	yup gimmie a sec yeats	14:15
Naive_Pixie	and speiros if you tell me what code to try step by step I'll do it	14:16
MOUD	cfhowlett, do I need to add the deb-src too?	14:16
cfhowlett	MOUD, not unless you are working with source code	14:16
MOUD	cfhowlett, no then.	14:16
Speiros	Naive_Pixie, I'm not experienced enough to guide you through code, but as a team others on here can help with their experience.	14:16
essence_	hey	14:17
essence_	I have a question	14:17
Eddard	it says http://termbin.com/uzy9	14:17
essence_	I can't use n mode on my wife connection	14:17
Eddard	what should i do ?	14:17
essence_	how do I activate it	14:17
Naive_Pixie	http://paste.ubuntu.com/23764437/	14:17
beeman	hi	14:17
HexaChop	EriC^^, imgur is not working for me for some reason.	14:18
essence_	can anyone help me	14:18
beeman	does anyone use ubuntu on virtual machine and it runs fast?	14:18
beeman	On mine it's very slow	14:18
EriC^^	Eddard: it looks clean without errors	14:18
Naive_Pixie	hold up, I'll try it without the '.' before the 'bak'?	14:18
EriC^^	Eddard: try "DISPLAY=:1 startx unity"	14:18
EriC^^	Eddard: see what it says	14:18
yeats	Naive_Pixie: sorry, put the "-i" back so that it reads "-i.bak" again - I just consulted the sed docs (cool, I didn't know you could do that)	14:19
EriC^^	HexaChop: try postimage.org	14:19
Naive_Pixie	http://paste.ubuntu.com/23764442/	14:20
EriC^^	or tinypic.com	14:20
Eddard	it says X.Org X Server 1.18.3	14:20
Eddard	Release Date: 2016-04-04	14:20
Eddard	X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0	14:20
Eddard	Build Operating System: Linux 3.13.0-95-generic x86_64 Ubuntu	14:20
Eddard	Current Operating System: Linux Robot 4.4.0-57-generic #78~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Sat Dec 10 00:14:47 UTC 2016 x86_64	14:20
Eddard	Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-57-generic root=UUID=952ff627-de6d-4d85-b105-fe1a011cf27e ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7	14:20
beeman	help me	14:20
Naive_Pixie	oh okay cool I'll re try it with that again. do I still leave out the '.' before /etc?	14:20
yeats	beeman: many factors to consider (virtualization platform, host specs, how much you're allocating, etc.)	14:20
EriC^^	Eddard: does it end with any errors?	14:20
beeman	yeats: for example press windows key it's become lag(slow) for a few seconds	14:21
EriC^^	Eddard: if you could somehow paste it in paste.ubuntu.com that would be great (btw how did you manage to paste that here from ctrl+alt+f1?)	14:21
yeats	Naive_Pixie: yes, if you're trying to change the actual file ("." in this instance means "the path starts in the current directory")	14:22
Eddard	sorry im noob	14:22
Naive_Pixie	Same message as just before,	14:22
EriC^^	beeman: what are the specs of the pc and which ubuntu version?	14:22
beeman	Eddard: use the website to paste and paste the new link... don't spam	14:22
EriC^^	beeman: how much ram did you give the ubuntu vm?	14:22
beeman	EriC^^: i7-4710hq, 16gb ram <-- on host	14:23
yeats	beeman: and what is the host's OS?	14:23
HexaChop	EriC^^, https://drive.google.com/drive/u/6/mobile/folders/0B6mJmT6oWmcxcEZsOWpRVXM1eDA?sort=13&direction=a	14:23
beeman	yeats: windows 8.1 64 bits. is it bad?	14:23
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: Can you paste 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list' I think there might be wrong link	14:23
Naive_Pixie	http://paste.ubuntu.com/23764450/	14:23
EriC^^	beeman: how much ram did you give ubuntu? and graphics how much memory?	14:23
Naive_Pixie	okay hang on	14:23
yeats	beeman: asking whether Windows is bad in this channel probably won't yield helpful answers :-)	14:23
Eddard	im out	14:24
beeman	EriC^^: 1GB ram, graphics I dont know :O	14:24
EriC^^	virtualbox?	14:24
beeman	vmware	14:24
yeats	Naive_Pixie: "-i.bak" (you're missing the .)	14:24
beeman	VMware	14:24
EriC^^	beeman: which ubuntu version?	14:24
HexaChop	EriC^^, take a look in google email.	14:25
EriC^^	HexaChop: ok, checking	14:25
beeman	EriC^^: 16.04.1 LTS xenial	14:25
HexaChop	EriC^^, ok.	14:25
Naive_Pixie	ahhhh	14:26
beeman	what?????	14:26
Naive_Pixie	http://paste.ubuntu.com/23764481/	14:26
Naive_Pixie	Progress? I think?	14:26
beeman	what?????	14:26
Speiros	Nice. Looking like it.	14:27
MOUD	cfhowlett, I'm currently running "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade". Let's hope it works.	14:27
MOUD	thanks cfhowlett, yeats, treehug88, for the help.	14:27
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: oh .... :D yeah if that is whole output	14:27
yeats	Naive_Pixie: btw, general unsolicited advice - you might be a happier Ubuntu/Linux user if you spend some time learning command line basics - many many tutorials on the web	14:27
beeman	Anyone got ubuntu to work good in vmware?	14:27
cfhowlett	happy2help! moud	14:27
Naive_Pixie	yeah thats what it spat out :D	14:28
cfhowlett	beeman, virtualbox is the goto solution	14:28
beeman	cfhowlett: no. bye	14:28
yeats	beeman: I would recommend using VirtualBox instead (though I'm kind of choking recommending an oracle product)	14:28
beeman	yeats: no. bye	14:28
Naive_Pixie	yeah Yeats I've been working on it, only been using it for a few months and it's the first time I've actually needed any real help so I think I'm getting there :D	14:28
EriC^^	HexaChop: ok, try a few times to boot it, it might boot up once every 10 tries or so	14:28
one8080	ok	14:28
EriC^^	HexaChop: once it boots, we'll follow the advice in that thread about fixing it	14:29
HexaChop	Yeats, what oracle is bad?	14:29
beeman	EriC^^: respond?	14:29
MOUD	Another thing, how can I install kubuntu interface so I can switch between ubuntu and kubuntu interfaces?	14:29
beeman	MOUD: what is kubuntu interface?	14:29
Naive_Pixie	So Lollipop, what do I need to do now?	14:29
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: You could remove spotify.list inside /etc/apt/sources.list.d/	14:29
MOUD	beeman, I believe it's KDE 5.6, not sure	14:29
BluesKaj	beeman, KDE/plasma desktop for ubuntu	14:30
beeman	https://askubuntu.com/questions/417/how-do-i-install-kde	14:30
beeman	MOUD: this??	14:30
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l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: but Im not sure if that is the right way approach it	14:30
EriC^^	beeman: no idea, it should run somewhat smoothly (still with some lag)	14:30
beeman	EriC^^: do you use vmware?	14:30
Naive_Pixie	hmmm	14:30
EriC^^	beeman: try virtualbox maybe?	14:30
l0llip0p	It has work on me sometimes	14:30
EriC^^	beeman: also give it more ram, like 2gb	14:30
beeman	virtualbox uses a key and mine is broken	14:31
MOUD	beeman, yes, that seems to be the one, thanks.	14:31
Guest76835	hello to everyone can someone tell me a terminal comand to install amd proprietary drivers in ubuntu 16.04?thank you very much	14:31
EriC^^	1gb is low for ubuntu	14:31
EriC^^	beeman: more ram for the vm might fix it	14:31
beeman	how much?	14:31
EriC^^	give it 2.4gb or so	14:31
l0llip0p	Speiros: is it okay for apt to remove things from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?	14:31
beeman	!help	14:31
ubottu	Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience	14:31
beeman	!help Guest76835	14:31
Speiros	l0llip0p, I don't know what can and can't be removed I'm afraid.	14:32
kk4ewt	!amd \| Guest76835	14:32
ubottu	Guest76835: Open driver for AMD cards: amdgpu (cards >= GCN1.2 aka GCN 3rd gen), radeon (older cards). Closed drivers: amdgpu-pro (>= GCN1.2) fglrx (older cards, unsupported by AMD in 16.04+). For info on GCN levels, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units . For fglrx info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD	14:32
beeman	Guest76835: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver	14:32
beeman	Speiros: remove what??	14:32
l0llip0p	Speiros: okay thanks	14:32
beeman	!ask \| Speiros	14:32
ubottu	Speiros: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience	14:32
beeman	kk4ewt: stop spam?	14:32
yeats	l0llip0p: yes, but it might be easier to just comment out the lines in the file (add a # at the beginning of the line if you're not familiar)	14:32
Speiros	beeman Huh?	14:32
BluesKaj	l0llip0p, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is normally where ppa sources are stored	14:32
Naive_Pixie	So.. I found the filre,	14:33
beeman	Speiros: remove what?	14:33
Naive_Pixie	but I cannot delete it	14:33
l0llip0p	yeats, BluesKaj : thank you	14:33
Speiros	beeman <l0llip0p> Speiros: is it okay for apt to remove things from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?	14:33
Speiros	beeman this is relating to Naive_Pixie's issue that is being worked on.	14:33
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: yeah you need to be super user for it	14:33
beeman	oh you ask him specifically	14:33
HexaChop	EriC^^, I was typing in the command wrong. The biggest FACEPALM in the world.	14:33
beeman	he will answer you then	14:33
Naive_Pixie	how do I do that?	14:34
BluesKaj	Speiros,you can't remove that file but onme can delete ppa sources from it	14:34
Speiros	Naive_Pixie, Are you logged into your admin account? Or the main one?	14:34
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: in terminal	14:34
BluesKaj	onme=one	14:34
EriC^^	HexaChop: :D	14:34
Naive_Pixie	I have zero idea how to know that	14:34
HexaChop	EriC^^, what should I do after booting?	14:34
Speiros	BluesKaj Okay.	14:34
EriC^^	HexaChop: run "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices \| nc termbin.com 9999"	14:34
beeman	HexaChop: which ubuntu you install?	14:34
Speiros	Naive_Pixie, If you have only one account on your computer, it is Admin.	14:35
HexaChop	Beeman, latest.	14:35
beeman	HexaChop: on vmware?	14:35
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: first open terminal ( write into search) 2. paste this command: cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d/	14:35
MOUD	Is Ubuntu 17.04 out?	14:35
HexaChop	Beeman, no, normally.	14:35
beeman	you guys	14:35
Speiros	Naive_Pixie, l0llip0p's suggestions will work.	14:35
Naive_Pixie	okay I've done that, it came up with "no such file or directory...	14:36
Naive_Pixie	wait its not cd its cat	14:36
Speiros	Naive_Pixie, To open terminal, press on the big button on the top left (or press the equivalent of the old windows key on your keyboard), and you can type in there "terminal".	14:36
Speiros	Oh, cool.	14:36
Speiros	Sorry	14:36
hackal	Can a bash script change nginx configuration file? If yes how would you do it?	14:36
beeman	EriC^^: did you use vmware?	14:37
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: okay run 'pwd' inside terminal and give output to us (just to be sure)	14:37
beeman	EriC^^: (continue) I just want to know	14:37
EriC^^	beeman: no, just virtualbox	14:37
Mr-Potter	Hi if you wanna make money online please click here: http://rewardsempire.com/?ref=24647	14:37
beeman	no	14:37
Naive_Pixie	it just came up with my /home/(personal name)	14:37
beeman	dont go in	14:38
beeman	fuck harry potter	14:38
Naive_Pixie	as in normal home file path	14:38
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: okay then do: 'cd /etc/apt/'	14:38
BluesKaj	Mr-Potter, no spams please	14:38
beeman	BluesKaj: ban him	14:38
beeman	he is making money of us	14:39
Speiros	Naive_Pixie, What is happening is we're looking at what is in your files there.	14:39
HexaChop	http://termbin.com/ebjl, Eric^^.	14:39
Naive_Pixie	lollipop it says no such file or directory	14:39
cfhowlett	beeman, no profanity please	14:39
Mr-Potter	BluesKaj: I'm sorry, where is spam allowed?	14:39
beeman	cfhowlett: he is making money of us	14:39
cfhowlett	Mr-Potter, go away, no spam here.	14:39
BluesKaj	not here	14:39
beeman	shame on you	14:39
Naive_Pixie	okay I've got something for you now Lollipop	14:39
cfhowlett	beeman, understood but no profanity anyway	14:39
beeman	cfhowlett how do you ignore him?	14:39
cfhowlett	beeman, /ignore nickname	14:40
Naive_Pixie	http://paste.ubuntu.com/23764557/	14:40
beeman	cfhowlett: did you use VMware?	14:40
HexaChop	EriC^^, are you there, mate?	14:40
cfhowlett	beeman, virtualbox only	14:40
Naive_Pixie	that was just a guess.. let me know what next	14:40
EriC^^	HexaChop: which graphics card do you have? try "lspci \| grep VGA \| nc termbin.com 9999"	14:40
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: XD yeah put cd in front of that sentence	14:41
l0llip0p	cd means 'chance directory'	14:41
HexaChop	EriC^^, I am a PC geek. 2x ASUS STRIX 1070.	14:41
Speiros	change:)	14:41
EriC^^	HexaChop: try "dpkg -l \| grep intel-microcode"	14:42
david33	ops	14:42
Speiros	typo...about the only thing I can pick out.	14:42
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Naive_Pixie	http://paste.ubuntu.com/23764565/	14:42
david33	hi	14:42
beeman	hi david	14:43
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: and separate cd and /etc/ whit ' '	14:43
HexaChop	EriC^^, http://termbin.com/2lu0	14:43
l0llip0p	Speiros: thanks I'm really bad at languages :)	14:43
HexaChop	Is Ioria here?	14:43
Speiros	l0llip0p, :) You're great at guiding though.	14:43
EriC^^	HexaChop: ok	14:44
beeman	HexaChop: how is this relevant?	14:44
EriC^^	HexaChop: does "additional drivers" show anything about the graphics cards?	14:44
HexaChop	beeman, what exactly? http://termbin.com/2lu0	14:44
HexaChop	this? It is for EriC^^.	14:44
Naive_Pixie	http://paste.ubuntu.com/23764583/	14:45
Naive_Pixie	:D :D	14:45
HexaChop	EriC^^ Where to look?	14:45
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: omg XDD okay lets try different approach	14:46
beeman	what Naive_Pixie is trying to do?	14:46
EriC^^	HexaChop: first icon in the launcher	14:46
Naive_Pixie	You're doing awesome Lollipop thankyou this is great I am finally getting somewhere. what next?	14:46
HexaChop	EriC^^, I know I am in the program. But where to look in the Additional Drivers program?	14:46
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: open filemanager go to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and right click > choose "open terminal"	14:46
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: or 'open terminal in this directory'.	14:47
EriC^^	HexaChop: in the tab, does it say anything other the broadcom stuff?	14:47
HexaChop	EriC^^, nothing else but broadcom and CPU stuff.	14:48
EriC^^	HexaChop: is the cpu stuff selected in use?	14:48
HexaChop	EriC^^, should I try nforce drivers?	14:48
HexaChop	EriC^^, I don't know, mate.	14:48
HexaChop	EriC^^, it says "Using" at the front of the name.	14:49
BluesKaj	HexaChop, isn't there a recommended driver in the list?	14:49
EriC^^	HexaChop: is it selected?	14:49
HexaChop	Eric^^, yep.	14:49
Naive_Pixie	I'm not sure what I'm meant to right click as it just opens the folder and I can't select that option by right clicking on any of the files	14:49
EriC^^	HexaChop: this seems it might work http://askubuntu.com/questions/791439/trouble-installing-ubuntu-16-04-since-i-got-gtx-1070	14:49
EriC^^	sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-367	14:50
EriC^^	HexaChop: ok, try adding the ppa	14:50
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: I mean that you open menu with clicking the right mouse button	14:50
ledeni	HexaChop, can you give us in terminal 'lspci \| grep -E "VGA\|3D"'	14:50
HexaChop	ledeni, give what?	14:51
Naive_Pixie	ahh! Gotcha! :) hang on	14:51
ledeni	HexaChop,lspci \| grep -E "VGA\|3D"	14:51
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Naive_Pixie	Can I PM you for a sec Lollipop?	14:52
l0llip0p	Naive_Pixie: sure	14:52
Naive_Pixie	thanks	14:52
jacks_	hi, i don't see any /dev entry for my microphone, i can use it in audacity/skype the device is "default: Front Mic:0" or dmesg lists it as "HDA Intel PCH Front Mic as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input9" is there a way to create a /dev entry so i can reference it in c/c++?	14:54
HexaChop	ledeni, EriC^^: http://termbin.com/bkz5	14:54
huma	e	14:56
fearnothing	hi guys, I'm having issues mounting shares	14:57
fearnothing	every way I try it I get the error 'host is down'	14:57
fearnothing	but the host is up, ports are open, other clients can mount the shares	14:57
fearnothing	what else might be the cause?	14:58
ledeni	HexaChop,ok you have nvidia video card did you boot ubuntu with nouveau driver	14:58
kk4ewt	fearnothing, what is type of share	14:58
HexaChop	ledeni, I used nouveau.modeset 0	14:59
ledeni	HexaChop,and boot up	14:59
fearnothing	kk4ewt - cifs on FreeNAS, but I have tried exposing it as NFS too, exactly the same problem	14:59
HexaChop	Speiros, almost 2 days now...	15:00
HexaChop	ledeni, your sentence is out of context. I cannot see anything before "and".	15:00
Speiros	HexaChop Yeah, progress has been made, which is good.	15:01
HexaChop	Speiros, hey, I am talking to you from linux now.	15:01
Speiros	HexaChop Exactly:)	15:01
kk4ewt	firewall and do you have samba installed	15:01
HexaChop	ledeni, what to do before booting up?	15:01
fearnothing	kk4ewt - samba is installed, it has worked in the past from this host	15:02
ledeni	HexaChop,did you boot up ?	15:02
fearnothing	they're on the same subnet, no firewall between	15:02
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HexaChop	ledeni, I do not know what to do before restarting.	15:02
HexaChop	ledeni, because you said "And" boot up, I saw nothing before "And".	15:03
EriC^^	ledeni: he used nouveau.modeset=0 and booted up the actual install	15:03
fearnothing	if I nmap from my ubuntu host, it can see all of the required ports as open	15:03
fearnothing	and it resolves the DNS correctly	15:03
HexaChop	EriC^^, ledeni and have to use the same command to boot up every time.	15:03
EriC^^	ledeni: any ideas? i found on google that using a ppa with nvidia-367 might help	15:04
ledeni	EriC^^, yes	15:04
EriC^^	ledeni: it's a good idea?	15:05
ledeni	EriC^^, yes	15:05
HexaChop	ledeni: I would prefer latest version though.	15:05
EriC^^	HexaChop: try sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-367	15:05
EriC^^	HexaChop: you mean the one from the nvidia site?	15:05
HexaChop	EriC^^ these drivers are very old, mate. nvidia actually has drivers called nforce for linux. Look it up.	15:06
EriC^^	HexaChop: ah	15:06
ledeni	HexaChop,no that is not good idea	15:06
HexaChop	ledeni, why?	15:06
ledeni	HexaChop, because overwrite basic ubuntu files	15:07
ledeni	HexaChop,do it what EriC^^ said	15:08
ledeni	HexaChop, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-367	15:08
HexaChop	ledeni, EriC^^, http://termbin.com/xi1a	15:11
lodearit	j hi guys i need flash? on i firefox	15:12
EriC^^	lodearit: sudo add-apt-repository multiverse && sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras	15:12
lodearit	how'd I get it? which package, I also wouldn't like chrome , ior chormium it's bad for me	15:12
ledeni	HexaChop, sudo apt-get -f install	15:12
HexaChop	ledeni, EriC^^, termbin.com is AWESOME.	15:12
EriC^^	lodearit: flashplugin-installer	15:13
EriC^^	that's the package name	15:13
HexaChop	ledeni, it installs nothing.	15:13
lodearit	EriC^^: can't i enable the multiverse form the settings?	15:13
HexaChop	ledeni, http://termbin.com/uczr	15:13
EriC^^	!info libc6-i386	15:14
ubottu	Package libc6-i386 does not exist in yakkety	15:14
EriC^^	lodearit: yes you can	15:14
Speiros	HexaChop It looks updated, but it said it corrected dependencies.	15:14
ledeni	HexaChop, sudo apt-get install nvidia-367	15:14
EriC^^	HexaChop: maybe the ppa isn't made for 16.10?	15:14
EriC^^	HexaChop: type "grep graphics /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* \| nc termbin.com 9999"	15:15
lodearit	I hope it's flash 23 not 11.2	15:15
HexaChop	http://termbin.com/37z9	15:15
EriC^^	seems like it's demanding stuff not present in 16.10	15:15
HexaChop	http://termbin.com/37z9, EriC^^,	15:15
HexaChop	EriC^^, http://termbin.com/37z9	15:16
EriC^^	nope it has a yakkety menu	15:16
EriC^^	HexaChop: try "apt-cache show nvidia-367 \| nc termbin.com 9999"	15:16
EriC^^	ledeni: won't the repo version of nvidia-367 work?	15:17
EriC^^	!info nvidia-367	15:17
ubottu	nvidia-367 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-367): NVIDIA binary driver - version 367.57. In component restricted, is optional. Version 367.57-0ubuntu3 (yakkety), package size 39265 kB, installed size 167350 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf)	15:17
HexaChop	EriC^^, http://termbin.com/cc6l	15:18
ledeni	EriC^^, should	15:18
HexaChop	ledeni, http://termbin.com/cc6l	15:18
lodearit	EriC^^: why should i install ubuntu restricted extras when i can just install flashplugin-installer	15:18
HexaChop	ioria, Hi.	15:18
ioria	HexaChop, hey	15:18
HexaChop	ioria, at least now I am in linux. I managed to get into it and install it.	15:19
ioria	HexaChop, great	15:19
HexaChop	ioria, still a lot left to do though...	15:19
HexaChop	EriC^^ is amazing, ioria.	15:19
lodearit	EriC^^: ? what do you think?	15:19
ioria	HexaChop, i know .... kinda ?	15:19
HexaChop	ioria, I am having GPU problems now.	15:20
ioria	HexaChop, nvidia drivers ?	15:20
HexaChop	ioria, exactly.	15:20
ioria	HexaChop, what have you tried	15:20
ioria	?	15:20
HexaChop	ledeni, any news?	15:20
HexaChop	ioria, I didn't install drivers yet, there's quite a bit we've tried.	15:21
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HexaChop	nothing seems to work via console, ioria.	15:21
HexaChop	ioria, "terminal" rather.	15:22
ioria	HexaChop, ok, what have you tried so far ?	15:22
serdar	hello	15:22
HexaChop	ioria, apt-get thingies, it throws me with this error:	15:22
ioria	HexaChop, installing what ?	15:22
HexaChop	ioria, http://termbin.com/cc6l NVIDIA drivers. We are trying to installed them to no luck though.	15:23
EriC^^	ioria: he's trying to install the driver for nvidia, h can only boot with nomodeset right now	15:23
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HexaChop	EriC^^, ioria, right.	15:23
EriC^^	HexaChop: the ppa nvidia-367 has a dependency listed libc6-i386 but that's not available in 16.10	15:23
ioria	HexaChop, 367 form the ubuntu repo ?	15:24
ioria	*from	15:24
EriC^^	HexaChop: try "apt-cache policy libc6-i386" to see if the ppa provides it	15:24
HexaChop	EriC^^, k.	15:24
lodearit	https://ptpb.pw/FX-q i did upgrade , but still i get that it just cant can't do it?	15:24
EriC^^	ioria: no from a ppa, we were thinking to go the repo 367 route instead, any thoughts?	15:24
ioria	EriC^^, why not the last 375 ? from ppa ...	15:25
HexaChop	EriC^^, http://termbin.com/39vz	15:25
lodearit	I think this will breal a dep in the long run don't want to leave the like that	15:25
lodearit	Why does it happpen here , now ?j	15:25
EriC^^	ioria: no idea about nvidia drivers, if it's better then by all means :D	15:25
AL3XI	A Ka Shqipetar Ketu	15:26
ioria	EriC^^, 375 it's just the last added	15:26
EriC^^	!info nvidia-375	15:26
ubottu	Package nvidia-375 does not exist in yakkety	15:26
EriC^^	ioria: in the graphics-ppa ?	15:26
ioria	EriC^^, yup	15:26
HexaChop	!ping	15:27
ubottu	pong!	15:27
ioria	EriC^^, other than that, try the nvidia installer	15:27
EriC^^	what's the latest repo one?	15:27
serdar	I have issues with nvidia-375	15:27
EriC^^	the ppa seems a little broken, http://termbin.com/xi1a	15:28
ioria	EriC^^, 367 i think	15:28
AL3XI	O Shqipeeeee	15:28
AL3XI	Ku Jeni	15:28
AL3XI	Pse Nuk Shkruni	15:28
serdar	for some reason lightdm is replacing my xorg.conf with a different version	15:28
serdar	at every (re)start	15:29
serdar	someone know, how I can prohibit that_	15:29
HexaChop	Sperios, This is super frustrating again...	15:29
HexaChop	Speiros, This is super frustrating again... *	15:30
EriC^^	HexaChop: nvidia 367 from the repo, or nvidia 375 from the ppa?	15:30
k00l3th4n	serdar: Try to purge/remove lightdm amd re-install.	15:31
HexaChop	EriC^^, neither repo nor ppa means anything to me, I do not understand a thing.	15:31
Speiros	HexaChop Patience mate. Think of the wise words of Chicago ♪We've come too far to leave it all behind♪	15:31
ioria	HexaChop, so, it's a fresh install (i guess) did you have problems updating it ?	15:31
Speiros	:D	15:31
EriC^^	HexaChop: repo is the one from the official ubuntu repositories, the ppa is an external repository run by someone else	15:31
HexaChop	ioria, what do u mean?	15:31
HexaChop	Sperios, true.	15:31
ioria	HexaChop, 16.10, right ?	15:32
HexaChop	Speiros, true. *	15:32
HexaChop	ioria, right.	15:32
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade	15:32
HexaChop	ioria, http://termbin.com/ktfu	15:33
k00l3th4n	How is everyone doinng this morning? Enjoy your Sunday?	15:33
Speiros	HexaChop It looks like you have the option of choosing the one on Ubuntu, or the NVIDIA one, is that correct EriC^^ ?	15:33
HexaChop	k00l3th4n, it is nearly evening here, mate.	15:33
Speiros	Hi k00l3th4n :)	15:33
ioria	HexaChop, if it's a fresh install... what happened ?	15:33
Speiros	2:30AM here.	15:33
k00l3th4n	HexaChop: Well... How is your evening going?	15:34
HexaChop	Ioria, already updated maybe?	15:34
k00l3th4n	Speiros: Hello mate.	15:34
Speiros	:)	15:34
HexaChop	k00l3th4n, not very well, linux problems, mate.	15:34
ioria	HexaChop, this was caused by the nvidia drivers ?	15:34
EriC^^	Speiros: oh, no that is an option though too	15:34
HexaChop	ioria, Don't... really... know...	15:35
EriC^^	HexaChop: nvidia 367 from the repo, or nvidia 375 from the ppa, or the nvidia one from their website	15:35
k00l3th4n	HexaChop: What issues are you having. Maybe I can help.	15:35
Speiros	EriC^^ Ah, okay.	15:35
HexaChop	k00l3th4n can't install Nvidia drivers.	15:35
ioria	HexaChop, so, try to purge nvidia and reboot sudo apt-get purge nvidia+	15:35
ioria	HexaChop, so, try to purge nvidia and reboot sudo apt-get purge nvidia*	15:35
EriC^^	ioria: he hasn't installed nvidia yet	15:35
Dreaman	EriC^^ why repo oficial work good in ubuntu	15:36
ioria	HexaChop, dpkg -l \| grep nvidia \| pastebinit	15:36
EriC^^	Dreaman: he wants latest drivers	15:36
k00l3th4n	HexaChop: Oh man! yeah, that can be a pain in the ass. I think it took me a couple of days last time I had that problem.	15:36
Dreaman	is not good idea	15:36
Dreaman	but	15:36
EriC^^	HexaChop: ioria maybe it's half installed	15:37
k00l3th4n	HexaChop: You are gonna have to download the driver and install from command line without xorg.	15:37
HexaChop	ioria, I don't have pastebinit.	15:37
ioria	HexaChop, dpkg -l \| grep nvidia \| nc termbin.com 9999	15:37
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hunter	hey	15:37
HexaChop	ioria says use netcat.	15:38
serdar	k00l3th4n: I did that right now, but the result is the same	15:38
tchnq	Hi all. Is there a way to force Unity Dash open application list first instead of last files or etc. ?	15:38
EriC^^	tchnq: there's the shortcut super+a incase it helps	15:38
k00l3th4n	HexaChop: Can you pastebin your errors. That way I can maybe help.	15:38
serdar	and then I get the black screen	15:38
tchnq	EriC^^, awesome! What about mouse click?	15:39
HexaChop	k00l3th4n, I can't use neither termbin nor pastebin.	15:39
Speiros	HexaChop Why?	15:39
EriC^^	tchnq: no idea, there's right click > applications just found that :)	15:39
HexaChop	k00l3th4n, speiros, it asks me to use netcat.	15:40
Speiros	HexaChop Ok.	15:40
tchnq	EriC^^, :D discoveries :))	15:40
HexaChop	k00l3th4n, speiros, it asks me to use netcat (termbin).	15:40
EriC^^	tchnq: haha :D	15:40
tchnq	And I wanted to ask as well is there a nice resource in a web to build my own ubuntu	15:40
k00l3th4n	HexaChop: That's weird for sure. Never had that issue before.	15:41
EriC^^	HexaChop: try dpkg -l \| grep nvidia \| curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us	15:41
tchnq	Because I am using default ubuntu build from site.	15:41
tchnq	Everyone says I am newb >_<	15:41
BluesKaj	!minimal \| tchnq	15:41
ubottu	tchnq: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD	15:41
HexaChop	EriC^^, finally, http://sprunge.us/NNBL	15:41
k00l3th4n	What card do you need a driver for?	15:41
HexaChop	ioria, http://sprunge.us/NNBL	15:41
HexaChop	k00l3th4n, http://sprunge.us/NNBL	15:41
HexaChop	k00l3th4n, 2x ASUS Strix 2070	15:42
fund	Anyone using Linux from usb thru vm/virtual box/qemu?	15:42
HexaChop	k00l3th4n, 2x ASUS Strix 1070	15:42
EriC^^	HexaChop: does "dpkg -l \| grep nvidia" give you anything in the terminal?	15:42
ioria	HexaChop, dpkg -l \| grep nvidia no output, right ?	15:42
dinet	hello. is there a way to se where apache2, php7 and mysql slows down? since upgrade to 16.04 wordpress is extreamly slow	15:42
HexaChop	ioria, EriC^^, none.	15:43
EriC^^	HexaChop: dpkg -l \| grep -v ^ii \| curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us	15:43
ioria	HexaChop, so it broke by itself ?	15:43
tchnq	ubottu, Thx!	15:43
HexaChop	ioria, EriC^^, I had no NVIDIA drivers after installing ubuntu, I get no output, that why http://sprunge.us/NNBL is empty.	15:43
HexaChop	that's*	15:43
ioria	HexaChop, ok... so how apt broke ?	15:43
HexaChop	ioria, idk if it broke at all.	15:44
ioria	HexaChop, yes, you got unmet deps	15:44
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade	15:44
EriC^^	he did attempt to install nvidia-367	15:44
EriC^^	try the dpkg -l \| grep -v ^ii command	15:45
EriC^^	it'll show anyyh	15:45
fund	What's difference between Linux live usb creator and grub and yumi?	15:45
EriC^^	*anything that isn't installed correctly	15:45
tchnq	What about Intel HD graphics driver on ubuntu 16.04 LTE? I've didn't installed any driver, so I believe ubuntu is using default driver. I have worse fps then in windows in Dota2	15:45
ioria	HexaChop, try sudo apt-get purge nvidia* and see what it says	15:45
HexaChop	ioria, http://termbin.com/pjx3 (for the sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade)	15:46
ioria	HexaChop, right, purge	15:46
EriC^^	ioria: wildcards with apt.. yesterday some guy broke his install purging gpg*	15:47
_war10ck_	Hello all, just upgraded to 16.04 and found that the free space status bar is dropped in Nautilus(updated from 12.04)	15:47
HexaChop	ioria, http://termbin.com/xs3f (for the try sudo apt-get purge nvidia*)	15:47
k00l3th4n	HexaChop: Are you using 64-bit?	15:47
HexaChop	k00l3th4n yep.	15:47
EriC^^	(just a heads up on this wildcard issue)	15:47
_war10ck_	Is it something that I am missing or that feature is really dropped in nautilus	15:47
ioria	HexaChop, it's a mess	15:47
ioria	EriC^^, really ?	15:47
EriC^^	ioria: yes	15:48
HexaChop	ioria, purge?	15:48
ioria	EriC^^, that's a total different pkg	15:48
EriC^^	it removed apt even, he had to use dpkg -i to get it back	15:48
EriC^^	ioria: ok :P	15:48
tchnq	Noone here playing Dota2 on Intel HD?	15:48
EriC^^	ioria: apt is kind of coco for cocopuffs with wildcards	15:48
serdar	k00l3th4n: I purged and reinstalled lightdm, but it still overwrites my xorg.conf	15:48
ioria	HexaChop, it says 367, 370, 375 ....	15:48
ioria	EriC^^, yeah	15:49
EriC^^	ioria: on different systems getting different results too	15:49
lodearit	EriC^^: i get can't drop privileges for files... when i install some pkcages necessary for flash?	15:49
lodearit	The following packages requested additional data downloads after package installation, but the data could not be downloaded or could not be processed.	15:49
ioria	HexaChop, i'd start to purge language-pack-es	15:49
lodearit	ttf-mscorefonts-installer	15:49
k00l3th4n	serdar: Okay, try to purge/remove xorg then reinsall.	15:50
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt-get purge language-pack-es	15:50
serdar	short question, as I understood, I don't need nomodeset when I install nvidia drivers, is that still valid?	15:50
serdar	test	15:50
Dreaman	hahhaa salute	15:51
HexaChop	ioria, sudo apt-get purge language-pack-es	15:51
ioria	yes	15:51
throwaway	Anyone know how can I confirm that Transmission is connected through VPN?	15:51
HexaChop	ioria, http://termbin.com/j7xs , sorry.	15:51
lodearit	throwaway: which vpn service?	15:52
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt-get purge language-pack-gnome-es	15:52
lodearit	dependson that throwaway ,	15:52
throwaway	Expressvpn	15:52
HexaChop	ioria, http://termbin.com/j7xs	15:52
serdar	darn	15:52
HexaChop	ioria, exact same outcome	15:52
throwaway	Expressvpn, lodearit	15:52
fund	What's meaning of "Linux which runs from ram"?	15:53
HexaChop	ioria, http://termbin.com/4706	15:53
Dreaman	HexaChop open the setting and try sp and install	15:53
lodearit	it is connected through vpn as all traffic passes, unless the connection is down then it's all exposed, accidental cuts happen	15:53
Dreaman	esp	15:53
EriC^^	HexaChop: try sudo apt-get install language-pack-es-base	15:53
HexaChop	Dreaman, do what?	15:53
EriC^^	see why it won't install it	15:53
k00l3th4n	throwaway: Hold on a minute and i'll send you a link to download a file to check you vpn through transmission.	15:53
ioria	HexaChop, if you run apt-get -f install ?	15:53
throwaway	k00l3th4n, no thanks	15:53
throwaway	lodearit, ok	15:54
HexaChop	EriC^^, it gives me a lot of command not found.	15:54
HexaChop	ioria, yes.	15:54
serdar	k00l3th4n: I purged lightdm now and reinstalled it but I got the same issue	15:54
ioria	HexaChop, what happens ?	15:54
EriC^^	HexaChop: sudo apt-get install language-pack-es-base	15:54
HexaChop	ioria, installed a lot of stuff, why?	15:54
ioria	HexaChop, something wrong	15:54
serdar	do I need nomodeset? as I understood, this is not needed, when I install nvidia driver	15:55
ioria	HexaChop, when it finishes, rerun update and full-upgrade	15:55
HexaChop	EriC^^, It worked.	15:55
HexaChop	ioria, I did the -f install thing a while back now.	15:55
k00l3th4n	throwaway: Google ipMagnet and download use the magnet to check if you client is connected through VPN.	15:55
EriC^^	HexaChop: try sudo apt-get install language-pack-es	15:55
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade	15:55
throwaway	thanks, k00l3th4n	15:56
HexaChop	ioria, http://termbin.com/jjgb	15:56
k00l3th4n	throwaway: It's pretty simple. That's the method I use.	15:56
ioria	HexaChop, still broken	15:56
k00l3th4n	throwaway: Let me know if it works.	15:57
HexaChop	EriC^^, http://termbin.com/gp5d	15:57
k00l3th4n	throwaway: And you're welcome bro.	15:57
EriC^^	HexaChop: ok, let's take a breather	15:57
EriC^^	and try to figure stuff out	15:57
EriC^^	deal?	15:57
HexaChop	EriC^^, I can keep going actually.	15:57
Volis	Is it fine if I ask a Ubuntu installation problem I'm having?	15:58
serdar	lightdm kills me. can someone tell me another dm, except sddm?	15:58
Speiros	Do it Volis:)	15:58
Speiros	Someone will look at it.	15:58
ioria	HexaChop, again if you run apt-get -f install what happens ?	15:58
EriC^^	i mean like let's try to see what's going on instead of pulling random wires	15:58
EriC^^	HexaChop: ^	15:58
ledeni	HexaChop, try sudo apt-cache clean all	15:58
Dreaman	http://prikachi.com/images.php?images/803/9013803E.png HexaChop lame Ñ=	15:58
k00l3th4n	serdar: pastepin you error and send the link so I can see the errors.	15:58
HexaChop	ioria, http://termbin.com/ummp	15:59
serdar	k00l3th4n: lightdm replaces my xorg.conf, I don't know what I should paste there	15:59
Volis	Alright, so my friend has an Asus X205TA and I followed the exact instructions here ( https://github.com/lopaka/instructions/blob/master/ubuntu-16.04-install-asus-x205ta.md under BIOS Setup) to try boot with USB but I'm not able to	15:59
ioria	HexaChop, and ?	15:59
EriC^^	Volis: what happens when you try to boot?	15:59
HexaChop	ioria, I get this: http://termbin.com/ummp	15:59
serdar	Volis: acpi=off	15:59
ioria	HexaChop, and it stops ?	16:00
HexaChop	ioria, yep.	16:00
ioria	HexaChop, dpkg -l \| grep -v "ii " \| grep -v "rc "	16:00
serdar	what happened to kdm or gdm?	16:00
Volis	What happens is, I create the bootable USB. Plug it into X205TA, power on, press Esc key to select the boot device, select USB drive and then it shows me the same dialog again after black screen for 2 seconds.	16:00
HexaChop	ioria, http://termbin.com/lokl	16:01
Volis	I choose USB stick again and then it proceeds to boot with Windows again	16:01
serdar	Volis: press e and add acpi=off, that might help maybe pci=nomsi also helps you	16:01
ioria	HexaChop, it'all broken .	16:01
k00l3th4n	serdar: So what is the issue. You can't use xorg or what? Or are you not get a windows manager?	16:01
serdar	had a similar issue with my msi notebook here	16:01
Volis	serdar, Press e at the menu where it shows me bootable media?	16:01
ioria	HexaChop, bad installed i guess ... don't know how	16:01
ledeni	HexaChop, try sudo apt-cache clean all	16:02
HexaChop	ioria, what are you suggesting? I CHECKED the MD5, it was perfect.	16:02
serdar	k00l3th4n: I change xorg.conf with my settings or with nvidia-xconfig and when I (re)start lightdm it gets replaced	16:02
ioria	HexaChop, lvm, encryption ... how did you installed ?	16:02
serdar	Volis: yes and go down where you see splash and add there these two entries and press F10	16:02
HexaChop	ledeni, E: Invalid operation clean.	16:02
HexaChop	ioria, what?	16:03
ioria	HexaChop, installed plain and simple ? without lvm or encryption options selected ?	16:03
k00l3th4n	serdar: Interesting. I'm not sure I can help bro. All I can advise is reinstall xorg and your drivers.	16:03
HexaChop	ioria both selected	16:03
Amm0n	serdar, maybe something in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d overriding?	16:04
ioria	HexaChop, if you ask, i'd reinstall sorry	16:04
serdar	Amm0n: and here is the funny fact, there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d	16:04
HexaChop	ioria, nope, I am SO DONE.	16:04
ioria	lol	16:04
serdar	HexaChop: yeah	16:05
HexaChop	MD5 went perfectly..., ioria.	16:05
Volis	serdar, Alright I think this is what you're saying ( http://askubuntu.com/a/160056 ) but that computer has Windows 8. No Grub.	16:05
ioria	HexaChop, it's not all in the checksum	16:05
serdar	I might getting old, but I have the feeling, that 5 years ago gentoo was easier :/	16:05
serdar	Volis: your usb stick is using grub I guess	16:06
lodearit	hi	16:06
lodearit	The following packages have been kept back:	16:06
lodearit	gnome-software gnome-software-common snapd ubuntu-core-launcher ubuntu-software	16:06
Amm0n	serdar, is this a multiuser system? you could use Autostart X at login and ditch the DM bloat	16:06
ioria	brb	16:06
lodearit	0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.	16:06
lodearit	how to upgrade that?	16:06
HexaChop	sperios, I give up, mate.	16:06
lodearit	those packages cancreate a chain reaction, so i need to upgrade them?	16:06
Volis	serdar, yes but it doesn't even start to boot. The Esc option to select the boot media I'm talking about is BIOS	16:06
ledeni	HexaChop, try sudo apt-get clean all	16:06
k00l3th4n	lodearit: Hello, what is your issue?	16:07
HexaChop	speiros, I give up, mate. *	16:07
lodearit	i wantt to fix that 5 not upgraded	16:07
Speiros	HexaChop I don't know mate.	16:07
k00l3th4n	lodearit: sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade	16:07
serdar	Volis: what exactly happens, I was not giving to much attention	16:07
lodearit	why do i get that? error, and how to fix it? i am already on 16.04	16:07
Speiros	HexaChop You've got the ubuntu part working, but it's drivers now isn't it?	16:07
ducasse	lodearit: try 'sudo apt full-upgrade'	16:08
serdar	Speiros: it's always drivers :D	16:08
Amm0n	serdar, to your KMS question. Do you need a different resolution in kernelspace? If so it's supported since nvidia 364.12+	16:08
Volis	serdar, I plug the USB, power on the device, press Esc key to see the boot options (Windows Boot Manager or USB: Sandisk), select USB and press Enter and it comes back to the same dialog.	16:08
k00l3th4n	lodearit: I'd backup your system before ever dist-upgradeing.	16:08
serdar	Amm0n: I've installed 375 now	16:08
Volis	serdar, The second time when I select and enter USB. Windows boot anyway.	16:09
HexaChop	Speiros, this is so frustrating... I am seriously about to give up now...	16:09
Speiros	serdar I guess. I'm staying with 14.4 for now...at least for a little while.	16:09
ducasse	k00l3th4n: why on earth do you say that? dist-upgrade is the recommended way to update on ubuntu.	16:09
Volis	serdar, The USB works on a different computer. My BIOS is set exactly as defined here https://github.com/lopaka/instructions/blob/master/ubuntu-16.04-install-asus-x205ta.md	16:09
serdar	Volis: is secure boot enabled?	16:09
Volis	serdar, Disabled	16:09
HexaChop	ioria, I know what is wrong	16:10
k00l3th4n	ducasse: You	16:10
HexaChop	ioria, I have a red minus sign at the top. IT says this:	16:10
lodearit	k00l3th4n: so if i get not upgrade packages, even though i did apt-get upgrade, and then number of packages keep on increasin then is it bad/	16:10
serdar	Volis: It's hard to check websites, if you are not on X :)	16:10
HexaChop	an eror occurred, please run package manager (and a lot more text), ioria sperios.	16:11
HexaChop	speiros * ^	16:11
Volis	serdar, oh wait, I'll tell you in that case, "Advanced tab, USB Configuration -> USB Controller Select set to EHCI" and "Security tab, Secure Boot menu -> Secure Boot Control set to Disabled"	16:11
Speiros	HexaChop What part is the error that occurred?	16:11
Speiros	HexaChop the initial install?	16:11
k00l3th4n	ducasse: That's correct. It's just safe to make backup before a dist-upgrade. It could break you system. At least in my experience.	16:11
guideX	I am trying to move my vps to a vm, I have a tar.gz with all the files of the vps in it (sys, dev, etc, more) and I was thinking I'd create a new ubuntu vm, and extract all the files over it, but how do you figure out what version of ubuntu you were on?	16:11
serdar	Volis: so you are not seing the Try Ubuntu boot menu?	16:11
HexaChop	Speiros, I have at the top taskbar a red minus sign	16:11
Volis	serdar, nope	16:11
guideX	.... I am trying to move my vps to a vm, I have a tar.gz with all the	16:12
ledeni	HexaChop,close package manager if you have open	16:12
serdar	how did you create your usb?	16:12
HexaChop	ledeni, it wasn't open.	16:12
ducasse	k00l3th4n: that is very unlikely, unless you use a ton of random ppas.	16:12
Volis	serdar, I used rufus on Windows 10 machine	16:12
ledeni	HexaChop, try sudo apt-get clean all	16:12
serdar	Volis: hmm that's fine	16:12
guideX	So How do you figure out what version of ubuntu you are running from a backup?	16:12
HexaChop	ledeni, done, got no error, no nothing really.	16:13
serdar	Volis: is this a uefi bios?	16:13
EriC^^	guideX: /etc/issue	16:13
HexaChop	ledeni, got no output.	16:13
Volis	serdar, I'm pretty sure it is	16:13
EriC^^	guideX: why does it matter?	16:13
Speiros	HexaChop When you say at the top taskbar, the top of what, and which taskbar?	16:13
k00l3th4n	lodearit: No that's not bad, just mean there are upgrades for you packages. You should be fine to upgrade. Just be careful when upgrading anything with xorg.	16:13
guideX	EriC^^ I am trying to move my vps to a vm	16:13
Speiros	I'm trying to picture what would have a red minus sign HexaChop	16:13
serdar	Volis: can you select on Bios which device you boot in?	16:13
ledeni	HexaChop, now try sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade	16:14
guideX	but I'm not sure what version of ubuntu I'm on to create the new vm	16:14
Volis	serdar, I did. That has the same effect	16:14
guideX	I was planning to Extract over the new ubuntu files	16:14
HexaChop	Speiros, near the internet arrows.	16:14
k00l3th4n	ducasse: Again, true. It's just better to be prepared incase anything breaks. That way you can revert to your previous system if something goes wrong.	16:14
EriC^^	guideX: that's not a good idea	16:14
serdar	Volis: what did you download?	16:14
Volis	serdar, I disabled "Windows Boot Manager" option from the BIOS boot options and the computer kept on booting straight to BIOS	16:14
guideX	EriC^^: ah ok, do yuou have any recommendations how I can do it? I wish to move from my vps to a vm, but I'm having alot of trouble	16:15
serdar	Volis: tried different slots?	16:15
HexaChop	ledeni, solved it myself, had to put -f before full-upgrade	16:15
EriC^^	guideX: boot a live iso in the vm, and create a partition table on the vm disk and partitions, mount them, then copy over the backup install	16:15
Speiros	HexaChop So it's working now?	16:15
Volis	serdar, I have tried both Ubuntu 16.10 x64 and x86 desktop versions	16:15
EriC^^	guideX: then chroot to the install and reinstall grub	16:15
Volis	serdar, yes, tried different slots and different USB sticks too	16:15
HexaChop	Speiros, ype, it fetched files now.	16:16
HexaChop	Speiros, yep*	16:16
guideX	EriC^^: hrm ok, I tried that before, but I don't actually know how to do much aside from a normal install of ubuntu, but i'll research how to do all those things	16:16
Speiros	HexaChop See...don't give up mate:) The folks in here have a huge skill and knowledge base between them.	16:16
Volis	serdar, X205TA doesn't have a CD reader else I would have tried Plop Boot Manager as well	16:16
soahccc	ACL question: Can anyone tell me why the mask of subfolders is r-- considering the ACLs of the parent? https://gist.github.com/2called-chaos/3d6eff4b699644a34fca4dc15c456a63	16:16
guideX	I ran into some failure before	16:16
Speiros	HexaChop Bits and pieces, along with our own understanding, and guess what???	16:16
serdar	do you have a different usb stick Volis ?	16:17
Speiros	HexaChop Ubuntu. Literally:)	16:17
ledeni	HexaChop, ok now update your system first	16:17
guideX	creating the partition table without installation, mounting, chroot, reinstall grub etc	16:17
HexaChop	ledeni, command, please?	16:17
guideX	these are things I usually let the installer do	16:17
HexaChop	ledeni, the command worked for installing	16:17
Volis	serdar, yes I do, I have so far tried three all of which work just fine on other computers	16:17
ledeni	HexaChop, already give you	16:17
EriC^^	guideX: it's not difficult	16:18
guideX	EriC^^: yeah but I am not too good with linux	16:18
EriC^^	guideX: create a partition table using fdisk (press o then w to write), the use cfdisk (it's very intuitive) to create the partitions	16:18
serdar	Volis: have you searched for X205TA boot from usb?	16:18
EriC^^	guideX: you'll manage easily and learn a ton i'm sure	16:18
guideX	hrm ok i'll try again	16:18
EriC^^	if you have any issues feel free to ask here	16:18
HexaChop	ledeni, worked.	16:19
guideX	ok cool	16:19
ledeni	HexaChop,great	16:19
HexaChop	had to hit yes, added -f somewhere to make it work, ledeni.	16:19
serdar	Volis: it looks like, that your bios don't allow boot from usb, maybe ou need to update your bios	16:19
Volis	serdar, yes I have and just did that again. People seem to have that problem but no answers so far. The most thorogh installation procedure is defined in the Github md file I linked	16:20
EriC^^	Volis: did you follow that guide, replacing the efi with the 32bit version and whatnot?	16:20
ledeni	HexaChop,ok	16:20
k00l3th4n	ducasse: I've learned to always backup my system before upgrading a bunch of packages. It doesn't hurt to have a backup anyways. It's good practice.	16:21
Volis	EriC^^, What do you mean?	16:21
HexaChop	ledeni, what's next?	16:21
ducasse	k00l3th4n: that is what snapshots are for ;)	16:21
ledeni	HexaChop, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-367	16:21
Volis	I tried Ubuntu x86 on the USB if that's what you mean	16:21
Speiros	k00l3th4n Yep. I learned to keep files external and introduce them to the system.	16:21
EriC^^	Volis: uefi usually is 64bit, and the ubuntu installer uses that, for 32bit you need to do some stuff and the link you provided outlines stuff	16:22
serdar	EriC^^: he has a bios issue, the system is not loading from usb.	16:22
ledeni	HexaChop,opss	16:22
Volis	EriC^^, I tried x64 in that case too, that should have worked	16:22
EriC^^	serdar: it's using uefi no?	16:22
Speiros	k00l3th4n, Also, I only just had the reminder by a close friend, to keep an external drive handy in my go-bag. I never thought about that before.	16:22
ledeni	HexaChop, just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-367	16:22
EriC^^	Volis: it's not 64bit	16:22
guideX	looks like I'm on Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS \n \l I could have sword it was 16, weird	16:22
guideX	sworn	16:22
k00l3th4n	ducasse: True! I usually just clone my /	16:22
guideX	i'll start with an ubuntu 14.04 then	16:23
EriC^^	Volis: isn't this the guide you posted? https://github.com/lopaka/instructions/blob/master/ubuntu-16.04-install-asus-x205ta.md	16:23
EriC^^	"Separate system already running Ubuntu 16.04 - this is where you will build the 32bit boot loader and create the USB install flash drive"	16:23
HexaChop	ledeni, E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).	16:23
k00l3th4n	Speiros: I'd say your friend is right. I have an extra drive just for backups.	16:23
EriC^^	you need to get a 32bit uefi and replace the 64bit one in the ubuntu installer so you can boot it Volis	16:23
ledeni	HexaChop, sudo apt-get clean all	16:24
Volis	EriC^^, How do I do that?	16:24
Speiros	k00l3th4n, Yep:)	16:24
HexaChop	ledeni, done, gave no output again	16:24
guideX	do you guys know, when selecting an ubuntu version, should it be the ubuntu-14.04.4-server-amd64.iso or ubuntu-14.04.4-server-i386.iso	16:25
Speiros	So...the ubuntu wiki...I have an idea.	16:25
EriC^^	Volis: do you have a system already running ubuntu 16.04?	16:25
Volis	EriC^^, I have a system running Windows 10 instead :\|	16:25
EriC^^	guideX: do you want a 32bit or 64bit?	16:25
k00l3th4n	ducasse: You use a VM? I dont' use VMs, so snapshots arent relevent to me.	16:25
Speiros	Who has some responsibility with the wiki?	16:25
ledeni	HexaChop, sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386	16:26
HexaChop	ledeni, what that did?	16:26
ledeni	HexaChop,sudo apt-get update	16:26
Volis	guideX, Check the computer you intend it install it on. See if it is 32 bit or 64 bit	16:26
HexaChop	ledeni, got the update, too.	16:26
xXEoflaOEXx	guideX, If your CPU does not support x86_64, try i386, What is your CPU?	16:26
Volis	EriC^^, Is this the problem that you're talking about? http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support	16:27
HexaChop	ledeni, Reading package lists... Done	16:27
ledeni	HexaChop,sudo apt-get install nvidia-367	16:27
ducasse	k00l3th4n: no, i use btrfs and zfs	16:27
EriC^^	Volis: that might work	16:27
HexaChop	ledeni, not working. Again some -f thing	16:28
k00l3th4n	ducasse: Cool. How do you lile ZFS?	16:28
Volis	EriC^^, cool, I'll try that	16:28
ledeni	HexaChop,again sudo apt-get clean all	16:28
EriC^^	Volis: do you have a usb?	16:28
Speiros	Ah, it's okay. Found all the info on the actual Ubuntu wiki...as regards the Ubuntu wiki:)	16:28
Volis	EriC^^, yes I do	16:28
HexaChop	ledeni, done.	16:28
ledeni	HexaChop,ok	16:29
EriC^^	Volis: you could use an ubuntu live session to run the commands in the first guide you posted, in case it does some fancy stuff so it loads on the tablet	16:29
EriC^^	Volis: the commands are in that gray box	16:29
EriC^^	starting with apt-get install p7zip-full ...	16:29
k00l3th4n	ducasse: I've been thinking about switching to ZFS. I here good things.	16:29
HexaChop	EriC^^, what are you talking about with Volis?	16:29
Volis	EriC^^, oh okay I'll boot the live session on this computer and run the commands	16:30
EriC^^	Volis: do you have another usb?	16:30
Volis	EriC^^, Is it fine if I do it on a virtual machine I have that is running Ubuntu?	16:30
HexaChop	ledeni, what to do next?	16:30
Volis	EriC^^, only one right now	16:30
EriC^^	cause you'll need it (that's the one you're going to make so it works on the tablet)	16:30
Volis	ah right	16:30
EriC^^	Volis: ok, boot the live usb, and report back here once it's booted	16:31
Volis	That's okay, I'll get one as soon as possible and then do it	16:31
HexaChop	EriC^^, you can make linux ubuntu run on TABLET?	16:31
EriC^^	maybe we can add files to it, it just needs the bootia32.efi file in efi/boot/	16:31
Volis	HexaChop, It's Asus X205TA so yeah tablet.	16:31
guideX	xXEoflaOEXx: it's an i5 in an asus eee slate	16:31
stanstill	hi, im going to buy a samsung nvme ssd 512GB pro for my notebook and install ubuntu 16.10 64 bits in it. I want that unit for the speed. Will these drivers make it go as fast as possible? http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/download/tools.html	16:31
EriC^^	HexaChop: yes	16:31
k00l3th4n	Got to go guys/gals. Be back later.	16:32
ledeni	HexaChop,sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-367	16:32
guideX	the problem though is, I have no idea what was installed on the vps	16:32
HexaChop	ledeni, E: Unable to locate package nvidia-graphics-drivers-367	16:32
Speiros	HexaChop, Worth learning eh:)	16:32
guideX	is there a way to know if it's one or the other via the tar.gz?	16:32
HexaChop	Speiros, learning what?	16:33
ducasse	stanstill: those drivers are for windows	16:33
Apple_	I am having issues booting into Ubuntu 16.04.1. I can successfully boot via recovery mode but not the normal mode. I've tried using boot repair to no avail. http://paste2.org/GLBxYMCB The issue I'm having is that I cannot type in my (LUKS, I think) decryption password on the normal boot UI	16:34
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stanstill	ducasse: ok, so will that samsung nvme still work with 3,500 MB/sec write and 2,100 MB/sec write speeds? or am I screwed for using linux?	16:35
EriC^^	Apple_: what happens in normal mode	16:35
xXEoflaOEXx	guideX, So it must support x86_64, Try x86_64 on and see.	16:35
ducasse	stanstill: afaik samsung nvme drives work as they should with linux	16:36
stanstill	ok ducasse what tool do I need to check write and read speeds, once I install ubuntu in the unit?	16:36
Apple_	The boot loader pulls up a prompt asking for the decryption password. I can't type in that box. The keyboard still works though - I can Alt-Sysreq-reisub	16:37
ducasse	stanstill: try hdparm or bonnie++, the latter is much more comprehensive	16:37
stanstill	both from the terminal I assume...	16:37
Jakey3	is apache tomcat a webserver for java?	16:37
ducasse	stanstill: yep.	16:38
ledeni	HexaChop,can you open software & updates application	16:39
ducasse	stanstill: what speeds you actually get depends on your workload.	16:39
Apple_	I'll get a better boot link. http://paste2.org/e0X91NjD	16:39
HexaChop	ldeni, sure.	16:39
stanstill	ducasse: Im aiming for samsung, because all HDDs I own are samsung and all references I have read about the brand are good. Id like to hear your opinion	16:39
HexaChop	ledeni, sure.	16:39
ducasse	stanstill: i have a bunch of samsung sata ssds, they are excellent.	16:40
HexaChop	ledeni, what's next?	16:40
summakor	bleh	16:40
Speiros	HexaChop, Sorry, was having a shower man. Learning this system.	16:40
stanstill	ducasse: does speed also depend on used percentage? (how much data I store in the unit)	16:40
ledeni	HexaChop,check restricted software	16:41
HexaChop	Speiros, I am not sure if it worth the price it comes with (having nearly all of your braincells destroyed).	16:41
HexaChop	ledeni, there says nvidia drivers	16:41
HexaChop	ledeni, and I can select one of them	16:41
ledeni	HexaChop,yes	16:41
ducasse	stanstill: it can, if the drive is very full.	16:42
Speiros	HexaChop I understand that part. Beginning on the platform is hell awkward.	16:42
serdar	darn	16:42
HexaChop	ledeni, it wasn't there before.	16:42
serdar	lightdm is not replacing xorg.conf only, wenn nomodeset is set in grub	16:42
ledeni	HexaChop,select 367	16:43
serdar	btw. how to upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10?	16:43
stanstill	ok ducasse , which brand would you choose? samsung or crucial? for nvme ssds I mean	16:43
HexaChop	ledeni, selected latest	16:43
ledeni	HexaChop, ok	16:43
Soul_Sample	serdar: if everything is working for you I'd advise against upgrading. otherwise it should notify you about the new release automatically in the upgrade manager	16:43
HexaChop	ledeni, after selecting, it reverts back	16:43
ioria	HexaChop, how is going ?	16:44
ledeni	HexaChop, opss	16:44
Soul_Sample	serdar: if it's not, open software & updates and there change Notify me of a new ubuntu version to "for any new version"	16:44
HexaChop	ioria, I did not need to reinstall ubuntu, it was fine...	16:44
ioria	HexaChop, ok, try sudo apt-get instal dclock	16:44
HexaChop	ioria, some of your commands was wrong (missing -f)	16:44
ducasse	stanstill: absolutely samsung, imo.	16:44
ioria	HexaChop, ok, try sudo apt-get install dclock	16:44
stanstill	ducasse: many thanks for all your answers	16:45
stanstill	is "many thanks" used in the English speaking world or does it sound foreign?	16:45
Apple_	EriC^^ The boot loader pulls up a prompt asking for the decryption password. I can't type in that box. The keyboard still works though - I can Alt-Sysreq-reisub. Here's a better link http://paste2.org/e0X91NjD	16:45
Speiros	stanstill It's still correctly used.	16:45
HexaChop	ioria, E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).	16:45
ioria	HexaChop, you can't install anything until you fix the broken pkgs	16:45
WildPenguin	hello, is Ubuntu more stable than Debian testing?	16:45
HexaChop	ledeni, opss?	16:46
basedmars	redundancy stanstill but it's alright	16:46
ledeni	HexaChop,again sudo apt-get clean all	16:46
serdar	Soul_Sample: none of my desktops are working (e21 and plasma) so I cannot use anything x releated	16:46
turista	hi, anyone have a tutorial about using android as wifi receiver?¿	16:46
turista	ubuntu 16	16:46
HexaChop	ledeni, done. What goes next?	16:46
serdar	I just need to change sources.list, right?	16:46
ledeni	HexaChop,sudo apt-get install dclock	16:46
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stanstill	basedmars: if "many thanks" is redundant, the "thanks a lot" is also redundant	16:47
Soul_Sample	serdar you can just try running sudo do-release-upgrade -d from the terminal	16:47
Soul_Sample	serdar: just a sec, that would upgrade to 17.04	16:47
HexaChop	ledeni, E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).	16:47
Soul_Sample	serdar: hold that command!	16:47
ioria	HexaChop, again , you can't install anything until you fix the broken pkgs	16:47
HexaChop	ioria, pkgs?	16:47
serdar	what's the name of Soul_Sample it was not working at all	16:47
ioria	HexaChop, packages,	16:47
Speiros	stanstill I don't think grammar and sentence structure are clung to deeply any more in the English language. Especially with texting, and also having many nations speaking some dialect of it.	16:48
HexaChop	ioria, what, that requires reinstall? can't I just run from Live USB to fix it for me?	16:48
ledeni	HexaChop,close software & updates	16:48
ioria	HexaChop, you said you fixed it	16:48
Soul_Sample	serdar: maybe we should first focus on fixing your desktops, upgrading won't help	16:48
HexaChop	ledeni, closed	16:49
ledeni	HexaChop,again sudo apt-get clean all	16:49
HexaChop	ioria, I can sense anger in u for some reason.	16:49
ioria	HexaChop, lol	16:49
HexaChop	ioria trying to be K.I.T.T. :D	16:49
serdar	Soul_Sample: I installed ubuntu two days ago, it was really painful until now	16:49
ioria	HexaChop, kitty, kitty	16:50
ledeni	HexaChop,and sudo apt-get install dclock	16:50
HexaChop	ledeni, E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).	16:50
Speiros	The car?	16:50
ioria	HexaChop, you can't install anything until you fix the broken pkgs lol	16:50
Speiros	lol	16:50
ledeni	HexaChop,did you sudo apt-get clean all	16:50
serdar	what is the name of 16.10?	16:50
Speiros	I haven't heard a reference to that for years.	16:51
Soul_Sample	serdar: yakkety yak	16:51
basedmars	yakkity yakk	16:51
HexaChop	ledeni, yep	16:51
HexaChop	!ping	16:51
ubottu	pong!	16:51
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serdar	thanks	16:51
Soul_Sample	serdar: but 16.04 is a long term support version, you'll get less software, less themes and less ppa's for the 16.10. and also it has a smaller support window	16:51
ioria	HexaChop, can you tell us exactly what you did the first time you log in ?	16:52
Soul_Sample	serdar: i also had ridiculous network manager issues with 16.10	16:52
HexaChop	hexachop, did as told - update linux.	16:52
HexaChop	ioria, did as told - update linux.	16:52
ioria	HexaChop, uname -r ?	16:52
HexaChop	ioria WHAT?	16:53
basedmars	uname -r	16:53
ioria	HexaChop, what's the output ?	16:53
HexaChop	ioria, 4.8.0-32-generic	16:53
ioria	HexaChop, you did run sudo apt full-upgrade or what commands ?	16:54
HexaChop	ioria, sounds about right	16:54
Speiros	Yeah, I remember that command	16:54
fund	Which are different ways to use Linux on Windows device?	16:54
ioria	HexaChop, ok, you ran the upgrades... and then ? nothing more ?	16:54
idoko	fund, as always, dual boot, virtualbox or just remove windows and put linyx	16:55
HexaChop	ioria, I don't remember, tbh.	16:55
idoko	linux *	16:55
ioria	HexaChop, it can't break by itself	16:55
fund	What about live Linux?	16:55
Speiros	40 minutes ago. the -f was put before full-upgrade.	16:55
fund	Is it 4th type?	16:56
Soul_Sample	ioria HexaChop can't he just press up in the terminal and review all the commands, unless it was ages ago?	16:56
HexaChop	ioria, who knows, technology is getting more and more advanced. I hope it will not start a rising against humans.	16:56
ioria	HexaChop, Soul_Sample right ... run history in terminal	16:56
HexaChop	ioria, sudo apt-get update (first command)	16:56
ioria	HexaChop, and paste	16:56
Speiros	HexaChop With the amount of syntax errors and upgrades, I don't think you'll have much to worry about:D	16:56
ioria	HexaChop, history	16:57
HexaChop	ioria, how to view history?	16:57
ioria	HexaChop, history	16:57
ioria	HexaChop, type it	16:57
Soul_Sample	HexaChop: just type history in the terminal and it should give you a list of all of the commands you ran	16:57
HexaChop	ioria, 1 sudo apt0get-update	16:58
HexaChop	2 sudo apt-get update	16:58
HexaChop	3 sudo apt-get update	16:58
HexaChop	4 ps aux \| grep dpkg	16:58
HexaChop	5 sudo apt-get update	16:58
HexaChop	6 sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	16:58
Speiros	HexaChop It will probably be a big list mate.	16:58
ioria	HexaChop, paste it, please	16:58
Speiros	Hang on...someone will get you HexaChop	16:58
Speiros	Damn:/	16:58
ioria	HexaChop, you have been muted, don't panic	16:59
xXEoflaOEXx	He left.	16:59
ioria	dist-upgrade ?????	16:59
HexaChop	ioria, got kicked, lol.	16:59
Speiros	wb mate:) HexaChop	16:59
Speiros	lol, might have to use pastebin man	16:59
HexaChop	Sperios, I did, but pasted everything else with the link :DDD	16:59
ioria	HexaChop, paste it, please	17:00
HexaChop	Sperios, I did, but pasted everything else with the link :DDD	17:00
Speiros	Ah, lol:D	17:00
HexaChop	http://pastebin.com/ffkyquHs, ioria	17:00
HexaChop	http://pastebin.com/ffkyquHs ioria *	17:01
Speiros	Wow! 4AM! I've been up for nearly 24 hours again!	17:01
HexaChop	Speiros, don't die.	17:01
ioria	HexaChop, ok, as soon as you ran dist-upgrade you were forced to run sudo apt-get install -f	17:01
Speiros	HexaChop I don't intend to just yet.	17:01
ioria	HexaChop, that's not normal	17:02
ioria	HexaChop, and bytheway, the command it's not dist-upgrade anymore but full-upgrade	17:02
Speiros	Wasn't it install then upgrade?	17:02
ioria	HexaChop, but not sure has been the culprit	17:03
HexaChop	ioria, you are telling me there might be someone who tried to ruin my system?	17:03
ioria	HexaChop, oh, please	17:03
ioria	HexaChop, no	17:04
HexaChop	ioria, oh, kk.	17:04
Soul_Sample	HexaChop: in my experience there's always one person trying to ruin my system - me	17:04
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt-get clean; sudo aptitude purge ~c;	17:05
HexaChop	Soul_Sample true dat... (accidentally usually)	17:05
ioria	HexaChop, you don't have aptitude, sorry	17:05
HexaChop	ioria, sudo: aptitude: command not found	17:05
ioria	HexaChop, i know	17:06
BluesKaj	thee's no need for aptitude anymore	17:06
ioria	HexaChop, well, reboot , grub -> Advanced Oprion -> Recovery > Fix broken pakgs	17:06
ioria	*Options	17:07
HexaChop	ioria, yay, there IS an option after all.	17:07
HexaChop	ioria, rebooting into it. brb.	17:07
ioria	HexaChop, ok	17:07
AndChat\|33024	ioria, there is no such option.	17:10
ioria	AndChat\|33024, no ?	17:11
AndChat\|33024	It's hexachop	17:11
ioria	AndChat\|33024, look at the picture https://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/01/25/ubuntu-not-booting-try-repairing-broken-packages-in-recovery-mode/	17:12
ioria	AndChat\|33024, dpkg - Repair	17:13
HexaChop	Ioria, there, do you see me as hexachop now?	17:13
ioria	yes	17:13
ioria	HexaChop, look at the picture https://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/01/25/ubuntu-not-booting-try-repairing-broken-packages-in-recovery-mode/	17:13
ioria	HexaChop, dpkg - Repair	17:13
pavan	I try to install octav in my ubuntu 16.04 32 bit i foun error The following packages have unmet dependencies:	17:14
pavan	octave : Depends: libqt4-network (>= 4:4.5.3) but it is not going to be installed	17:14
pavan	Depends: libqt4-opengl (>= 4:4.5.3) but it is not going to be installed	17:14
pavan	E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.	17:14
ioria	another one	17:15
HexaChop	Ioria, launched in recovery mode, it is now fixing packages.	17:15
xXEoflaOEXx	pavan, use pastebin to avoid flooding	17:15
Netek	hi all, I have a dedicated server with Xubuntu installed with OVH. The server comes with 5 IP address in total but I can only get the main IP to work, I have attempted to add the new ips into /etc/network/interfaces I rebooted the server.	17:15
ioria	HexaChop, good luck	17:15
Netek	Now when I do ifconfig, I can see an additional IP added as eth0:0 but this IP is not responding to any pings. I have followed the guide on OVH servers and hope that somebody else might have done this with OVH before who could help?	17:16
guideX	14.04.4-64 server is downloading now..	17:16
HexaChop	ioria, done	17:16
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt update	17:17
Dreaman	https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23765396/ :)	17:17
HexaChop	ioria, it is working. says all packages up to date, holy smokes, you are smart.	17:17
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt full-upgrade	17:17
HexaChop	ioria, still -f error	17:18
ioria	HexaChop, paste it, please	17:18
HexaChop	ioria, added -f now it works	17:18
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt full-upgrade again	17:18
HexaChop	sudo apt -f full-upgrade did it, ioria	17:18
ioria	HexaChop, sorry, nope ....	17:19
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt full-upgrade	17:19
Netek	in case anybody is interested, this is the guide I try to follow http://help.ovh.com/IpAlias#link7	17:19
HexaChop	ioria, http://termbin.com/kcxe	17:19
* Dreaman drink rakia		17:19
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt install dclock	17:20
pavan	https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23765418/ found error in ubuntu	17:20
HexaChop	ioria, VS my command: http://termbin.com/d3ta	17:20
annoying_daniel	Does anyone know how I can contact Reiner Herrmann (deki), the package maintainer of firejail in Ubuntu?	17:20
Apple_	I'm having issues booting into normal mode with Ubuntu 16.04.1. GRUB opens a password prompt for my LUKS drive encryption and I can't type there. I can boot with recovery mode though. I've tried using the boot repair utility. I'm also booting Windows on a separate hard drive. http://paste2.org/e0X91NjD	17:20
HexaChop	ioria, you see, -f helps ^^	17:20
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt install dclock	17:20
Netek	ahh ok, forget about it, issue was OVH had set a v mac address. I deleted this and it seems ok now :)	17:21
HexaChop	ioria same -f error until I do not add -f	17:21
ioria	HexaChop, you shouldn't need it	17:21
HexaChop	ioria, nope, with -f the same	17:21
Speiros	Netek Hi there.	17:21
HexaChop	ioria, this is extraordinarily weird.	17:22
ioria	HexaChop, you still have a 1 not fully installed	17:22
Netek	hey Speiros	17:22
HexaChop	ioria maybe live USB can fix it in recovery?	17:22
ioria	HexaChop, dpkg -l \| grep ^..r	17:22
HexaChop	ioria, done. no output	17:23
Speiros	Netek When you came in, you probably didn't get a response as what you highlighted was vague in a sense, so don't be disappointed. It's a help channel here for Ubuntu. Still, that you have troubleshot a problem is great, and also, more importantly, welcome:)	17:23
ioria	HexaChop, dpkg -l \| grep -v "ii " \| grep -v "rc "	17:23
Netek	Speiros no problem :) Thank you for the welcome heh	17:23
DJones	annoying_daniel: Seems obvious about the first link that comes up in searching is https://launchpad.net/~deki	17:23
Speiros	:)	17:23
HexaChop	ioria, http://termbin.com/ujbn	17:24
ioria	HexaChop, nothing has been fixed ....	17:24
ioria	HexaChop, can you install something ? guess not ... or yes ?	17:25
HexaChop	ioria seems like nothing. can the live USB help without reinstalling?	17:25
ioria	HexaChop, if you can't install nothing on a fresh install ... well, you know	17:26
HexaChop	ioria maybe it is related to a red minus on the top taskbar?	17:26
ioria	HexaChop, yes, also	17:26
HexaChop	ioria 'error: broken count > 0'	17:27
ioria	yep	17:27
ioria	HexaChop, we try to replace sources.list	17:27
HexaChop	let's do it, ioria.	17:28
ioria	HexaChop, sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old	17:28
HexaChop	ioria, got no output, done.	17:29
ioria	HexaChop, ls /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list	17:29
HexaChop	ioria, got no output, done.	17:29
ioria	HexaChop, sudo cp /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list	17:30
HexaChop	ioria, got no output, done.	17:30
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt update	17:30
HexaChop	ioria, it is installing a lot of stuff	17:30
ioria	HexaChop, mmmm	17:30
HexaChop	ioria, Fetched 8.270 kB in 17s (461 kB/s)	17:31
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt full-upgrade	17:31
HexaChop	ioria, All packages are up to date. (the previous command)	17:31
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt install dclock	17:32
HexaChop	ioria, E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.	17:32
ioria	HexaChop, use it	17:32
Dreaman	HexaChop apt dist-upgrade	17:32
HexaChop	ioria, E: Unable to locate package dclock	17:32
ioria	HexaChop, sorry, it's not in main ....	17:32
SchrodingersScat	It's really odd, two devices on the same lan are transferring slower than I can download through my ISP, that doesn't make any sense to me.	17:33
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt install vim	17:33
HexaChop	ioria, E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).	17:33
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt-get -f install	17:34
HexaChop	ioria, got a request (Yes OR No, which should I hit?)	17:34
ioria	HexaChop, request of what ?	17:34
Dreaman	https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23765488/ HexaChop :)	17:34
basedmars	how sclow SchrodingersScat	17:35
HexaChop	ioria [y/n] thingy	17:35
ioria	HexaChop, y	17:35
HexaChop	ioria, Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf-2.index...	17:35
HexaChop	hexachop@hexachop-pc:~$	17:35
HexaChop	ioria, last line	17:35
dark_witcher	Hello, guys, quick question. I made a website porfolio for my gf, that she has to present on a flash drive at her university. How can I lock the html and css files, so they can be only viewed but not edited or code copied?	17:35
Speiros	Dreaman the pastebin was in Russian mate.	17:35
ioria	HexaChop, dpkg -l vim	17:36
Dreaman	Speiros is Bulgarian	17:36
SchrodingersScat	basedmars: like 1.2MBps over wireless	17:36
Dreaman	fusk Russians	17:36
Speiros	Dreaman Ah, thanks for the clarification:)	17:36
HexaChop	ioria, http://termbin.com/0mnb	17:36
SchrodingersScat	basedmars: using rsync	17:36
Speiros	Dreaman There are good and bad in all nations.	17:36
ioria	HexaChop, no way	17:36
dark_witcher	Dreaman what is Bulgarian?	17:37
HexaChop	ioria, whaaaa?	17:37
Dreaman	i am Bulgarian	17:37
giz	can any one help me in setting up wi fi ap	17:37
merlin_	hey i have a little problem with the wifi by ubuntu	17:37
dark_witcher	Dreaman, stavame dvama :D	17:37
Dreaman	not fucking ussian	17:37
Dreaman	russian	17:37
Dreaman	a qko	17:37
HexaChop	Dreanman, could you please not swear?	17:37
ioria	HexaChop, cat /etc/apt/sources.list.old	17:37
basedmars	lan's usually 100MBps SchrodingersScat .	17:37
DJones	Dreaman: Please don't swear	17:37
pavlos	Dreaman, easy with the language ...	17:37
ducasse	SchrodingersScat: can you try iperf3 in both tcp and udp modes?	17:38
HexaChop	ioria, http://termbin.com/ifhz	17:38
DJones	Dreaman: Just stick with your issue in english language here, you won't have a problem	17:38
Dreaman	DJones ok	17:39
HexaChop	DJones, Dreaman, agreed.	17:39
HexaChop	!ping	17:39
ubottu	pong!	17:39
SchrodingersScat	ducasse: k, setting it up on the two machines. basedmars: with the wifi N it should be 72mbps, which is what the machines are connected at.	17:40
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HexaChop	ioria, any news?	17:40
merlin_	hello can anyone help me	17:41
ioria	HexaChop, i think your python is broken too	17:41
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ioria	HexaChop, ri python3-pam	17:42
ducasse	basedmars: most common modern networking gear is 1gbps	17:42
HexaChop	ioria, ri python3-pam	17:42
HexaChop	The program 'ri' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:	17:42
HexaChop	sudo apt install ruby	17:42
HexaChop	hexachop@hexachop-pc:~$	17:42
SchrodingersScat	!info iperf3 trusty \| ducasse	17:42
dark_witcher	Hello, guys, quick question. I made a website porfolio for my gf, that she has to present on a flash drive at her university. How can I lock the html and css files, so they can be only viewed but not edited or code copied?	17:42
ubottu	ducasse: Package iperf3 does not exist in trusty	17:42
ioria	HexaChop, no, i was just pointing to the brk pkg	17:43
giz_	help me in setting up wi fi ap	17:43
ducasse	SchrodingersScat: ah, bummer.	17:43
SchrodingersScat	trying iperf	17:43
ducasse	!info iperf trusty	17:43
ubottu	iperf (source: iperf): Internet Protocol bandwidth measuring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.5-3 (trusty), package size 53 kB, installed size 165 kB	17:43
ducasse	try that instead	17:43
HexaChop	ioria, to what?	17:43
Rar9	hi i need some help with installing pelc uploadprogress for 7.1.x . under plesk, for 7.0x it installed.	17:43
Speiros	dark_witcher Can you view the properties and save it as readonly?	17:43
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt install --reinstall python3-pam	17:43
HexaChop	ioria, Reinstallation of python3-pam is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.	17:44
SchrodingersScat	ducasse: 0.0-10.2 sec 4.12 MBytes 3.39 Mbits/sec	17:44
ioria	!info python3-pam	17:44
ubottu	python3-pam (source: python-pam): Python interface to the PAM library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.2-13.2ubuntu2 (yakkety), package size 9 kB, installed size 39 kB	17:44
HexaChop	ioria, bash: !info: event not found	17:45
ducasse	SchrodingersScat: tcp, i assume? try udp as well. ('-u -b 0')	17:45
ioria	HexaChop, running bash in terminal ?	17:46
ioria	HexaChop, no, it's not a command	17:46
SchrodingersScat	ducasse: 0.0-11.0 sec 15.8 KBytes 11.8 Kbits/sec ;(	17:46
HexaChop	ioria, where what to do?	17:46
dark_witcher	Speiros yep. Thanks.	17:47
ducasse	SchrodingersScat: wow, something is definitely wrong...	17:47
ioria	HexaChop, don't bother	17:47
Speiros	dark_witcher, np:)	17:47
user65784	How do I backup my server?	17:47
HexaChop	ioria I will bother	17:47
Speiros	Test it first though dark_witcher on the flashdrive to make sure.	17:47
ducasse	SchrodingersScat: are both hosts connected via wireless?	17:47
ioria	HexaChop, i mean, never mind it was an ubottu factoid	17:47
ioria	!info hexchat \| HexaChop	17:48
ubottu	HexaChop: hexchat (source: hexchat): IRC client for X based on X-Chat 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.12.0-2ubuntu2.1 (yakkety), package size 336 kB, installed size 971 kB	17:48
SchrodingersScat	ducasse: correct, they're right next to each other, could interference account for that much loss?	17:48
HexaChop	ioria, right :D	17:48
dark_witcher	Speiros, I will, right now.	17:48
Speiros	:)	17:49
ioria	HexaChop, not sure you can fix from liveusb	17:49
florian___	Hi anyone knows who decides battery voltage cutoff when discharging, it it the batter itself or Ubuntu?	17:49
florian___	it is battery itself	17:49
HexaChop	ioria, let's try?	17:50
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt-get -f install again	17:50
ducasse	SchrodingersScat: i guess it's possible, but i'm not really well versed in wifi. can both hosts get better speeds through the isp?	17:50
HexaChop	ioria, but the red minus thing is gone	17:50
ioria	oh, good	17:50
HexaChop	ioria does that mean that it is fixed?	17:51
SchrodingersScat	ducasse: yes, just tested on the second machine, reaches my ISP cap	17:51
ioria	HexaChop, idk, run the above command	17:51
HexaChop	ioria,	17:51
ducasse	SchrodingersScat: hmm. i suggest you take it to ##networking, i'm basically just throwing out guesses at this point.	17:51
HexaChop	ioria, Reading state information... Done	17:51
HexaChop	0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.	17:51
SchrodingersScat	ok, fair enough	17:52
mhsabbagh	Are there any news about Canonicals's earnings in 2016?	17:52
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt install vim	17:52
HexaChop	ioria, E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.	17:52
popey	mhsabbagh: no, Canonical is a private company and so doesn't publish financials other than obligated by law.	17:52
Speiros	mhsabbagh There is a #canonical-webteam and a #canonical-sysadmin site and maybe one of these could help you better?	17:53
ioria	HexaChop, nothing more ?	17:53
HexaChop	ioria, nothing.	17:53
ioria	HexaChop, reboot	17:54
nedstark	popey, mhsabbagh http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/01/ubuntu-maker-boosted-revenue-in-2013-but-doubled-loss-to-21-million/	17:54
mhsabbagh	popey: I am asking because I read a report on arstechnica about their profits in 2013, will definitly check the other IRC channels.	17:54
Speiros	Oops sorry popey:) I didn't see that post.	17:55
nedstark	the last news we had	17:55
Dreaman	HexaChop apt intall kill himself :)	17:55
mhsabbagh	Actually that was the link I was referring to.	17:55
popey	mhsabbagh: its not accurate	17:55
HexaChop	ioria, ok	17:55
pavlos	mhsabbagh, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_(company)	17:57
popey	mhsabbagh: anything in particular you're looking for?	17:57
popey	(note that the financial report linked to doesn't cover the whole company)	17:57
mhsabbagh	popey: I am working on a report for the major 3 Linux companies, I found the reports for RedHat and SUSE, but couldn't find anything related for Canonical's profits, which is why I am searching.	17:58
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popey	mhsabbagh: yeah, you won't, and the ones you find, are not accurate.	17:58
pavlos	mhsabbagh, the wiki page shows about $66 million revenue in 2013	17:59
mhsabbagh	The ones I found for the other companies are official, yet, I hope to see something for Canonical's.	17:59
HexaChop	ioria, done.	17:59
mhsabbagh	pavlos: Yea bro, I already seen that page.	17:59
popey	mhsabbagh: they're public companies, we're not.	17:59
nedstark	i found their financial disclosure	18:00
nedstark	https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/document-api-images-prod/docs/BwrAYm2MYv-1rdb-x4uojUIoDDfBtvkV6d9VJ0soOU4/application-pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=ASIAJSCOKYWIAEHSFTPQ&Expires=1483898455&Signature=4IdvSfYh2%2B4EeW5z9Q%2FZafEojTk%3D&x-amz-security-token=FQoDYXdzEEYaDLkFgmLO%2B4k5J04oZCKcA78IGLBAC4Bs9yaAF51XpQ9SPYxYTTwZVlTltzEtcGgcwg9v%2Bs%2FUIMogVP47lu02zuZ4%2F4xLzBVrf1kTNN%2BkRZafrSkXVaxq4syroLNl0S9Cl%2F%2BDgZqM2BLezutv0sBhR1ayY8L9sd9CILgKl16vGJz%2F8Ib	18:00
nedstark	Zxs%2BAWJLkhBHeXWgG%2BrSskHI5jx7vcjvN9Fv2Y5XKCDPNVSH1tz%2Baf4EpUjb67IxRi%2FkN%2F%2BMho0E2LI1GhVtTv%2FLFESD5K6%2Ff80QjcLS9Wrp7z43aaHcfWbnb5Zk0ZOiH%2FN%2Bsqcc3zrDjz3AvBHa22bBMopUtM44%2FwvbaVXDzbnaLwxKdodH%2BsPUSEl89QqaR1rv8yE%2BAdeCAeKyz9%2Fb9MvDZus9vNwbOVbiJ3yqWo%2BMP4p0rlKXR7baQ1IQMsW3RJlNnMxCsJ0ZQnUUITL0%2FQLU6OOuO%2BGGfQZplYDPWjHMpieCDhdpTQeiWOF8zLclojCsau%2FJj1PdHTzPG2VkxBAa8VFFkHtqrnVt3CsKo2olClE6WVs5P4c0R%2BrUbfHrr4mlv768FuHgoouzIwwU%3D	18:00
nedstark	an insanely long link from the UK https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/05055134/filing-history	18:00
HexaChop	ioria, you there?	18:00
vegii	ubuntu server sure takes a long time for me to install on a nettop. It hangs on 83% (preparing linux-firmware (amd64)), I wonder if it's because it only has 1GB RAM	18:00
nedstark	that's where you can find the report	18:00
popey	nedstark: that's only canonical uk	18:01
yeats	vegii: 1GB should be fine to install ubuntu server	18:01
nedstark	popey, their physical headquarters is in the UK	18:01
yeats	vegii: might end up being too low for certain apps though	18:01
popey	nedstark: there's multiple companies in the group, not just UK.	18:02
HexaChop	popey, nedstark, what are you both talking about? Curiosity struck me.	18:02
yeats	vegii: if you have access to the terminal, tty4 should show logs	18:02
ledeni	HexaChop, still hang system?	18:02
vegii	yeats: Just wanted to set up a box that could run ddrescue or something like that for some hours	18:02
HexaChop	ledeni, what do u mean?	18:02
ViciousLooRoll	how secure is .htaccess on a TSL certified web facing folder?	18:02
HexaChop	ledeni, still unable to install anything	18:03
nedstark	HexaChop, the question above from mhsabbagh	18:03
HexaChop	ledeni, can I reinstall ubuntu using ubuntu without any other external device?	18:03
HexaChop	nedstark, I was briefly disconnected, could you repeat?	18:04
vegii	yeats: thanks. It did respond when I connected/disconnected a keyboard, so it's not completely frozen	18:04
Speiros	lol...funny name there ViciousLooRoll	18:04
ledeni	HexaChop, before you do it can you open software & updates	18:04
mhsabbagh	nedstark: I quickly checked some reports there and there are no real information, just general metadate with no numbers	18:04
HexaChop	ledeni, sure, mate.	18:04
nedstark	HexaChop, someone asked about canonical	18:04
HexaChop	nedstark, the company behind ubuntu?	18:05
mhsabbagh	Looks like it will be better if I can try to reach the company itself and ask if it exists, thx for everyone.	18:05
popey	mhsabbagh: you did, i work there :)	18:05
Speiros	best wishes mhsabbagh	18:05
frib	I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 and I can no longer see audio devices in control center, please help!	18:05
yeats	mhsabbagh: not trying to be glib - you might try a library too	18:05
Speiros	popey Cool	18:05
HexaChop	ledeni, what's next?	18:05
ledeni	HexaChop, and unclick restricted	18:05
mhsabbagh	popey: hmm, so no such information are released to the public anymore?	18:06
nedstark	the profit and loss account for 2015 says they made US$3,203,000 in profit in 2015 and had $22,664,000 in revenue	18:06
yeats	mhsabbagh: public library reference departments will have all kinds of company info	18:06
HexaChop	in that tab nothing is clicked, ledeni.	18:06
vegii	but there's no installation-related logs for over 15 minutes since unpacking linux-firmware ... .deb	18:06
popey	mhsabbagh: only where obligated by law, e.g. to companies house in the UK and IRS in usa	18:06
HexaChop	ledeni, everything from downloadable from the internet is disabled.	18:06
yeats	vegii: can you run 'top'? (I don't remember whether that's available in the installer)	18:07
nedstark	they had about $60 million debt	18:07
frib	please help my audio devices have disapeared	18:08
ledeni	HexaChop, only cd rom is clicked	18:08
vegii	yeats: nope, no top	18:08
HexaChop	ledeni, NOTHING is clicked for some reason,	18:08
yeats	vegii: how about 'free'?	18:08
yeats	if it's a RAM issue, that would show it	18:08
HexaChop	ledeni, it is very weird, bro.	18:08
ledeni	HexaChop,can you mark everything from internet	18:09
HexaChop	ledeni, everything downloadable from the internet... checked.	18:09
vegii	yeats: there is some free memory (75692 of 884948), and swap isn't used	18:10
nedstark	canonical is actually a subsidiary of another company owned by shuttleworth called Futuristic Limited	18:10
yeats	vegii: probably not RAM then	18:10
ledeni	HexaChop,downloads from server :	18:10
HexaChop	ledeni, what?	18:10
Industrial	Hi.	18:11
Industrial	Can I ask a question here about the ubuntu/xenial64 Vagrant image?	18:11
HexaChop	ledeni: Main Server?	18:11
ledeni	HexaChop,yes	18:11
Speiros	Yes Industrial	18:11
Industrial	I have vb.gui=true, How do i log in to the VirtualBox window with a password?	18:11
HexaChop	ledeni, yup, main server,	18:11
Industrial	passwords are managed by using keys not username/password combo	18:11
Industrial	so I can not log in	18:11
ledeni	HexaChop,now revert	18:12
Industrial	or do `passwd` from within a `vagrant ssh` session (which uses the keys to log in)	18:12
HexaChop	ledeni why revert?	18:12
ledeni	HexaChop,option	18:12
HexaChop	ledeni, reverted, nothing is selected again	18:13
ledeni	HexaChop,do you have internet with this pc	18:14
HexaChop	ledeni, yes, sure, I am talking to you with it.	18:14
Industrial	Speiros: I can not call startx from the `vagrant ssh` session and then use my desktop in the VirtualBox window. X will error.	18:14
Speiros	Industrial I don't know anything about VirtualBox I'm afraid. Someone here may know though:)	18:15
frib	I used to be able to see my audio devices in unity-control-center but I no longer can. Please help! Thanks	18:16
Industrial	it's more a password thing. Vagrant logs into ssh with keys. I dont know the password of the 'ubuntu' user.	18:16
Industrial	of this vagrant image/box :)	18:16
HexaChop	ledeni, what should I do next/	18:17
ledeni	HexaChop,and once you revert all boxes are empty	18:17
HexaChop	ledeni, exactly.	18:17
ledeni	HexaChop,try to click all and close software app	18:18
mhsabbagh	popey: This reports gives good information about it up to 2015, since Canonical is UK based, is it accurate enough? https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/05055134/filing-history/MzEzNTg1NzA3NmFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0	18:18
mhsabbagh	report*	18:18
Speiros	Industrial I'm not sure either, but are you being asked by terminal for a password?	18:18
popey	mhsabbagh: again, only part of the company	18:19
Industrial	Hm. I can do `sudo su -` then `passwd ubuntu` so I dont have to enter a password cause it's root.	18:19
Industrial	Speiros: ^	18:19
CodeMouse92	I keep getting a popup complaining about "Failure to download extra data files" with "ttf-mscorefonts-installer", but when I click "Run this action now", it attempts to download stuff and fails. What's going on?	18:19
CodeMouse92	(I can't see the exact failure - the window closes too fast)	18:20
HexaChop	ledeni, it is downloading something now.	18:20
mhsabbagh	popey: I mean, are there any headquarters for the Canonical group else than UK?	18:20
Speiros	Industrial Ok, so it's separate from the sudo password then it seems?	18:20
popey	mhsabbagh: multiple companies, multiple offices	18:20
HexaChop	ledeni, done.	18:20
tjsimmons	well. back to having apt upgrade issues	18:21
mhsabbagh	Hmm, I see now. So this report is just for the UK office.	18:21
tjsimmons	tried.. four mirrors so far	18:21
nedstark	privately owned international companies are usually divided up to avoid taxes as much as possible	18:21
ledeni	HexaChop, sudo apt-get install hexchat	18:22
nedstark	most likely their us subsidary makes most of their revenues	18:23
HexaChop	ledeni I got disconnected, sorry.	18:23
ledeni	HexaChop, sudo apt-get install hexchat	18:24
mhsabbagh	nedstark: Thank you for the help :)	18:24
HexaChop	ledeni, it installed! :O	18:24
ledeni	yes	18:24
HexaChop	BREAKTHROUGH OF THE YEAR!	18:24
lordmantis	howdy	18:25
HexaChop	ledeni, what's next?	18:25
ledeni	HexaChop,can you open software & updates	18:25
HexaChop	ledeni, sure	18:26
HexaChop	ledeni, what's next?	18:26
ledeni	go to additional drivers	18:27
HexaChop	ledeni, next?	18:27
ledeni	HexaChop,what options you have	18:28
HexaChop	lots of nvidia options, ledeni.	18:28
HexaChop	ledeni, when I apply for nvidia driver, it returns back to the default driver of ubuntu	18:28
ledeni	HexaChop,everygo now try sudo apt-get install nvidia-364	18:31
HexaChop	ledeni, E: Package 'nvidia-364' has no installation candidate	18:33
ledeni	HexaChop,everygo now try sudo apt-get install nvidia-367	18:33
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MOUD	I'm getting the following erros when I try to use "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" : http://pastebin.com/pUKvN6ck ; how can I fix it?	18:34
HexaChop	ledeni, E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.	18:34
Speiros	Industrial Have you found any information on your situation?	18:36
ledeni	HexaChop,sudo apt-get clean all	18:36
HexaChop	ledeni, done	18:37
ledeni	HexaChop, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get full-upgrade	18:38
HexaChop	ledeni, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.	18:40
xXEoflaOEXx	MOUD: it seems that kdeconnect and kdeconnect-plasma are not found for xenial in amd64 on the ppa.	18:40
ledeni	HexaChop, sudo apt-get install vim	18:40
SebthreeBQM10HD	hi	18:40
MOUD	xXEoflaOEXx, I know, but how can fix it? Are there any alternative packages?	18:42
HexaChop	ledeni, E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.	18:42
fund	Who replied me last?	18:43
fund	I need log	18:43
fund	bazhang	18:43
chkumugne	Salut!	18:44
ledeni	HexaChop, sorry mate but this is not going anywhere	18:45
HexaChop	ledeni, I can see that... Nobody else could help? You couldn't help further?	18:47
iresf	hello everyone	18:48
iresf	any Persian ubuntu user here ?	18:48
Speiros	hi iresf	18:48
Speiros	Not sure mate.	18:48
iresf	ty Speiros	18:49
iresf	i would like to find one	18:49
xXEoflaOEXx	MOUD: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+files/kdeconnect_1.0.1-1ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1_amd64.deb https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+files/kdeconnect-plasma_1.0.1-1ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1_amd64.deb	18:49
HexaChop	Speiros. It has been nearly 2 FULL DAYS... It is done...	18:50
Speiros	Yep. Is it working now?	18:50
HexaChop	Speiros. THIS is impossible.	18:50
xXEoflaOEXx	MOUD: download these then install them by: cd Downloads, sudo dpkg -i kdeconnect*.deb	18:51
HexaChop	Speiros. NOW I get this: E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.	18:51
MOUD	xXEoflaOEXx, ok	18:51
Speiros	HexaChop How are those broken packages affecting things that you use?	18:52
Speiros	HexaChop, I mean, as I'm using an older version, but it's fine for what I use it for at present.	18:52
HexaChop	Speiros IDk what is going on.	18:52
Speiros	HexaChop, Have a play on your computer, and see what is good and what isn't. Maybe the broken packages don't matter. Do you have sound for instance?	18:53
HexaChop	Speiros. Yup. Youtube works.	18:54
Speiros	HexaChop, So the broken dependencies might not matter...at least yet:)	18:55
HexaChop	SP	18:55
HexaChop	Speiros, it was gone before.	18:55
HexaChop	Speiros, it just appeared out of nowhere.	18:55
xXEoflaOEXx	MOUD: Is the download finished?	18:56
MOUD	xXEoflaOEXx, yes, it just finished.	18:56
xXEoflaOEXx	MOUD: Open the terminal, then run: cd Downloads, then sudo dpkg -i kdeconnect*.deb	18:56
Speiros	HexaChop It can be frustrating looking, but if things are working, and secure, then the goal is accomplished.	18:57
MOUD	xXEoflaOEXx, I did but it gave me errors: http://pastebin.com/QgB503Sq	18:57
HexaChop	Speiros, DRIVER is not installed, and nothing is accomplished.	18:58
HexaChop	ledeni, could you please and try to assist further?	18:58
ledeni	HexaChop, ok	18:58
ledeni	HexaChop,can you open software & updates	18:59
ledeni	HexaChop, and unclick restricted	18:59
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HexaChop	ledeni, OK, thanks.	19:00
HexaChop	ledeni, unchecked	19:00
ledeni	HexaChop,sudo apt-get clean all	19:00
ledeni	HexaChop, and sudo apt-get install vim	19:01
HexaChop	ledeni, done	19:01
xXEoflaOEXx	MOUD: Move these 2 .deb files to /var/cache/apt/archives using sudo mv kdeconnect*.deb /var/cache/apt/archives, then do sudo updatedb, then install kubuntu-desktop again.	19:01
HexaChop	ledeni, E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.	19:01
MOUD	xXEoflaOEXx, ok	19:02
ledeni	HexaChop, and sudo apt-get -f install	19:02
australopithecus	Hello when I plug in an HDMI cable I get video but sound doesnt go through my TV, I have checked sound preferences and no hardware or output selection is available for the HDMI cable, can anyone help me? I am using Ubuntu Mate 16.1	19:02
louisdk	How do I install shift-command in Ubuntu?	19:03
HexaChop	ledeni, Reading package lists... Done	19:03
HexaChop	Building dependency tree	19:03
HexaChop	Reading state information... Done	19:03
HexaChop	0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.	19:03
ledeni	HexaChop, and sudo apt-get install vim	19:03
HexaChop	ledeni,	19:04
earth_	!info shift-command	19:04
HexaChop	ledeni, E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.	19:04
ubottu	Package shift-command does not exist in yakkety	19:04
MOUD	xXEoflaOEXx, more dependencies: http://pastebin.com/140uCZbX	19:04
HexaChop	!info ubuntu	19:04
ubottu	Package ubuntu does not exist in yakkety	19:04
Speiros	HexaChop What is the broken package doing?	19:04
xXEoflaOEXx	MOUD: sudo apt-get -f install	19:05
HexaChop	Speiros, it says that I HAD broken packages... WUT? :O	19:05
Ammonium351	Hi. I want to debug a program that is running from the terminal. is there anyway to do debugging using eclipse? please note that i am still a beginner. thanks	19:05
Speiros	HexaChop, If it's not causing any dramas, it's not worth stressing over.	19:05
Speiros	HexaChop, In my opinion, that is.	19:05
HexaChop	Speiros only that it doesn't let me instakk	19:06
Ammonium351	the program is written in C	19:06
HexaChop	Speiros only that it doesn't let me install anything. "no biggie".	19:06
earth_	what is this shift-command louisdk . I can't seem to find it in apt	19:06
australopithecus	nvm im dumb	19:06
l0llip0p	Ammonium351: maybe you should try #eclipse channel	19:06
Speiros	HexaChop, So you can't install anything? Have you tried the software centre?	19:06
HexaChop	Speiros, it doesn't even work.	19:06
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pavlos	HexaChop, ledeni suggestion: could synaptic fix the broken packages?	19:06
Speiros	HexaChop, the software centre doesn't open for you?	19:07
Ammonium351	l0llip0p thanks I will try there	19:07
Speiros	HexaChop, It's the orange briefcase thing on your left side toolbar (for want of a better word)	19:07
HexaChop	if you mean ubuntu software, it does open up	19:08
louisdk	earth_:It stands for shift positional parameters and is used in bash scripting.	19:08
MOUD	xXEoflaOEXx, it's done. now what?	19:08
Speiros	HexaChop, Okay, try to upload say...gweled	19:08
HexaChop	Speiros, but I doubt you can find drivers there.	19:08
xXEoflaOEXx	MOUD: Reinstall plasma-desktop again	19:08
Jordan_U	louisdk: shift is a bash builtin. Ubuntu comes with bash by default. I'm not quite sure what you want to install.	19:09
HexaChop	pavlos, synaptic?	19:09
Speiros	HexaChop, Depending on the drivers, yes and no. If you've programs already on your computer, they should be called in automatically with the commands. Still, I think you're missing one driver, and taht it works fine.	19:09
HexaChop	Speiros, it's my GPU Driver, I am stuck at very blurry graphics.	19:09
Speiros	HexaChop, Okay.	19:10
ledeni	HexaChop, just another package manager	19:10
HexaChop	ledeni, what do u mean?	19:10
basedmars	According to this website http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/scripting/posparams, it is already built in louisdk	19:10
ledeni	HexaChop,synaptic ==> just another package manager	19:11
pavlos	HexaChop, synaptic is a package manager	19:11
chris32	Hi. What are some chiclet keyboards that are compatible with linux distros? I'm thinking about the apple one. any suggestions?	19:11
louisdk	Jordan_U, basedmars: A friend of mine can't find the command in bash on his Ubuntu. Whatever we just use my Debian or Arch box instead.	19:11
HexaChop	ledeni, let's fix those broken packages. Maybe pavlos could help, too.	19:11
Speiros	HexaChop, There are drivers on Synaptic, but as mentioned, you will be pulling drivers to your machine that may be incorrect.	19:12
pavlos	HexaChop, synaptic could be under Admin tools. If you dont have it (and as I understood, you cannot install anything), wont help	19:12
l0llip0p	HexaChop: do you know which packages are broken?	19:12
HexaChop	l0llip0p certainly not, it doesn't show.	19:12
l0llip0p	HexaChop: try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'	19:13
HexaChop	l0llip0p, no output.	19:13
pavlos	HexaChop, to recap, you were able to do update/upgrade but trying to install anything complains about broken packages. install -f did not help, right?	19:13
HexaChop	pavlos, sounds aaaaabbbboooouuuttt right.	19:14
basedmars	louisdk, the command is 'shift' in bash ubuntu 16.04. Got it from the man page	19:14
ledeni	HexaChop, apt-mark showhold	19:14
xXEoflaOEXx	MOUD: Is it installing?	19:14
HexaChop	ledeni, no output.	19:14
l0llip0p	HexaChop: what does 'dpkg -l \|grep -v ii' give you?	19:14
HexaChop	l0llip0p, take a look. http://termbin.com/teu3	19:15
MOUD	xXEoflaOEXx, it just finished but got an error. http://pastebin.com/vxfA5wLr	19:16
ledeni	HexaChop, dpkg --get-selections \| grep hold	19:16
l0llip0p	HexaChop: okay what does: 'dpkg --get-selections \|grep -v installed'	19:17
HexaChop	ledeni, no output	19:18
twinroses	So, I'm trying to get a win8.1 machine to see a couple of shared printers on ubuntu 16.10. They are both enabled and shared, but the windows box is not seeing them. Any suggestions?	19:19
HexaChop	l0llip0p, http://termbin.com/hoym.	19:19
HexaChop	l0llip0p, http://termbin.com/hoym	19:19
ledeni	HexaChop,sudo apt-get autoremove	19:19
xXEoflaOEXx	MOUD: Try to download this: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications/+files/kaccounts-providers_16.04.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa61_amd64.deb	19:19
Jordan_U	louisdk: How exactly are they trying to use "shift"? It's definitely there. It's "shift" rather than "shift-command", and you won't find it in /bin/ because it's a builtin rather than an external command (because it needs to be).	19:20
MOUD	xXEoflaOEXx, ok, then what?	19:20
vegii	TIL: installing ubuntu on (apparently) a slow pendrive works, but it takes HOURS	19:21
HexaChop	ledeni, Reading package lists... Done	19:21
HexaChop	Building dependency tree	19:21
HexaChop	Reading state information... Done	19:21
HexaChop	0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.	19:21
ledeni	HexaChop, sudo apt-get update	19:21
nedstark	vegii, adding persistence takes a very long time	19:21
xXEoflaOEXx	MOUD: Open the terminal again, and cd to Downloads then do: sudo dpkg -i kaccounts-providers*.deb	19:22
nedstark	usb-c will hopefully change all that	19:22
vegii	nedstark: nah, I mean installing it, not creating a liveusb	19:23
ledeni	HexaChop, sudo apt-get full-upgrade	19:23
basedmars	How's the os speed nedstark . Any lag or freezing?	19:23
MOUD	xXEoflaOEXx, http://pastebin.com/nBYUyz5p	19:23
pavlos	HexaChop, have you tried, sudo dpkg --configure -a (cant remember)	19:23
HexaChop	ledeni, http://pastebin.com/mqKyxLFs	19:23
basedmars	I mean vegii . Sorry nedstark	19:23
nedstark	basedmars, i've never had good luck with pen drives OSs except the non-persistent kind	19:23
HexaChop	pavlos, I can't remember too.	19:24
l0llip0p	he has	19:24
l0llip0p	sry he/she	19:24
xXEoflaOEXx	MOUD, sudo apt-get purge account-plugin-google	19:24
sun45261	hi guys	19:24
vegii	basedmars: it's still on 83% installing, but the terminal is responsive...	19:24
sun45261	does anyone know how i can invert the fn-keys-function in xubuntu?	19:25
ioria	HexaChop, trusty ? you have a trusty repo	19:25
guillaume___	hello, it's been 2 days that i'm trying to create and seed a torrent from my ubuntu server machine and it is not working, neither downloading nor seeding. I have installed a vnc server just for that and even in transmission, i manage to create the torrent, get all the file but there's no seeding, even if i add a ubuntu torrent from the official website it doesn't download, i have opened the required port so ...	19:25
sun45261	atm if i want to use the standard f1,f2,...,f12 keys I have to hold down the fn-key	19:25
vegii	guillaume___: is that a vps?	19:26
timyp	guillaume___ is your IS blocking torrents?	19:26
timyp	*ISP	19:26
HexaChop	iora repo?	19:26
HexaChop	ioria, repo?	19:26
ledeni	HexaChop, open software & updates	19:26
ioria	HexaChop, repository	19:26
HexaChop	ledeni, sure	19:26
timyp	what torrent client are you using?	19:26
HexaChop	ioria, where are repositories and what they do?	19:27
Speiros	HexaChop, Trusty being the 14.4 version	19:27
ledeni	HexaChop, other software	19:27
ioria	HexaChop, they give you sw for your distro	19:27
MOUD	xXEoflaOEXx, it's done.	19:27
HexaChop	ledeni, yes?	19:27
ioria	HexaChop, but you are yakkety not trusty	19:27
xXEoflaOEXx	MOUD: Now do: sudo dpkg -i kaccounts-providers*.deb	19:27
HexaChop	ioria, ye, I think it is yakkety	19:27
HexaChop	ledeni, what next?	19:27
ioria	HexaChop, trusty is 14.04 you are 16.10	19:27
MOUD	xXEoflaOEXx, same error but now is facebook-plugin :S	19:28
HexaChop	ioria exactly	19:28
MOUD	*plugin-facebook	19:28
ledeni	HexaChop, untick http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu	19:28
ioria	HexaChop, so you shouldn't have it	19:28
xXEoflaOEXx	MOUD, sudo apt-get purge plugin-facebook	19:28
Speiros	ioria How does a person check to see which repository they've got?	19:28
HexaChop	ledeni, unticked four boxes.	19:29
HexaChop	ioria, what are you suggesting?	19:29
ioria	HexaChop, apt update or chech your /etc/apt/sources.list	19:29
MOUD	xXEoflaOEXx, it's done. Also it seems that the package was installed successfully	19:29
ledeni	HexaChop, ok	19:29
ioria	HexaChop, i don't know how a trusty repo is in your sources.list	19:29
xXEoflaOEXx	MOUD: now reinstall kubuntu-desktop.	19:29
ledeni	HexaChop,sudo apt-get clean all	19:29
HexaChop	ioria, Hit:1 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security InRelease	19:29
HexaChop	Hit:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety InRelease	19:29
HexaChop	Ign:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty InRelease	19:29
HexaChop	Hit:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-updates InRelease	19:29
HexaChop	Hit:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty Release	19:29
HexaChop	Reading package lists... Done	19:29
ledeni	HexaChop, sudo apt-get update	19:29
Ed_	using something like root explorer or its unpaided verson	19:30
ioria	HexaChop, i think it's wrong	19:30
MOUD	xXEoflaOEXx, that's odd: http://pastebin.com/ADDZ3NNS	19:30
ioria	HexaChop, comment the trusty sources with '#' in sources.list	19:30
xXEoflaOEXx	MOUD: That means it installed kubuntu-desktop successfully.	19:31
MOUD	xXEoflaOEXx, ok, going to restart then.	19:31
basedmars	I wonder how the repo got mixed up in the first place ledeni . What's the lsb_release	19:31
HexaChop	ledeni, I can't send you the log, but it is basically the same as for iora.	19:31
HexaChop	ledeni, ioria*	19:32
xXEoflaOEXx	basedmars, lsb_release is for displaying a version of Ubuntu you are using.	19:32
ledeni	HexaChop, sudo apt-get update	19:32
HexaChop	ioria, sources.list is where?	19:32
l0llip0p	HexaChop: /etc/apt/	19:32
pavlos	HexaChop, /etc/apt/	19:32
basedmars	Yes xXEoflaOEXx thank you	19:32
xXEoflaOEXx	basedmars, you are welcome.	19:32
HexaChop	ledeni, http://termbin.com/up2v	19:33
basedmars	I mean what is the lsb_release for the said system	19:33
ioria	HexaChop, /etc/apt/sources.list the 'ri' flag you have in the dpkg output is weird ... it means it is currently installed, but is about to be removed	19:33
HexaChop	l0llip0p, pavlos where to open it?	19:33
lucas-arg	exit	19:33
HexaChop	ioria how to get to that dir?	19:33
pavlos	HexaChop, you can cat /etc/apt/sources.list to view it	19:34
ioria	HexaChop, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list	19:34
Xano	Hi! What would be a good place to ask questions about Duplicity? AFAIK they have no IRC channel of their own.	19:34
tatertots	HexaChop: any luck booting from anything at all yet?	19:34
HexaChop	pavlos, ioria, l0llip0p, cat: /etc/apt/sources.lis: No such file or directory	19:34
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ioria	HexaChop, *list	19:34
ioria	not lis	19:35
hwpplayer1	hi , i have an iso 16.04 LTS . is it the latest version of Ubuntu Desktop	19:35
MOUD	xXEoflaOEXx, I restarted the laptop but ubuntu didn't ask which interface to run, it automatically open the default one (ubuntu)	19:35
HexaChop	tatertots, I am in linux but unable to install drivers, amte.	19:35
ledeni	HexaChop, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list	19:35
HexaChop	tatertots, mate*	19:35
xXEoflaOEXx	MOUD, Does it automatically login?	19:35
HexaChop	ledeni, thanks.	19:35
basedmars	It's the latest version for the LTS line hwpplayer1 . The latest one is 16.10	19:35
HexaChop	ioria, deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety main universe multiverse #Adde$	19:35
Bashing-om	hwpplayer1: 16.04 is the lastest Long term support release . There is the short term 16.10 available .	19:36
MOUD	xXEoflaOEXx, no, it's password protected	19:36
guillaume___	vegii and timyp not it's a dedicated server, but i now managed to make the seeding work but for some reason it doesn't download on the other end, i can see "seeding to 1 of 1 connected user" but i think it could be that it seeds to the tracker does that make sens ?	19:36
ioria	HexaChop, that command gives you the ability to edit the file ... move with arrows keys , find the 'trusty sources' and commant them	19:36
ioria	HexaChop, but maybe it's a better a new one	19:37
xXEoflaOEXx	MOUD, Then logout, look at the Ubujntu logo, and click on it, that should display between Ubuntu and Plasma.	19:37
hwpplayer1	ok i will install 16.04 then	19:37
MOUD	xXEoflaOEXx, ok	19:37
HexaChop	ioria, http://pastebin.com/Tk74EM1t	19:37
Gamemako	Good afternoon, mates	19:38
ioria	HexaChop, it's wrong	19:38
Gamemako	Anyone have much experience with efibootmgr issues? My google-fu has failed me.	19:38
HexaChop	gamemako, hi.	19:38
MonkeyDust	Gamemako good evening	19:38
HexaChop	ioria, what are you suggesting?	19:38
ioria	HexaChop, replace with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23766189/	19:39
pavlos	HexaChop, I think any line with trusty should be commented	19:39
ducasse	!ask \| Gamemako	19:39
ubottu	Gamemako: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience	19:39
ioria	HexaChop, as before , cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.back	19:39
timyp	Guliianume____ how many seeds are there?	19:40
timyp	*seeders	19:40
HexaChop	ioria, I can't edit the file.	19:40
MOUD	xXEoflaOEXx, it's working now, I just had to change to "Plasma" in the login like you said. Thank you very much for your help and patience.	19:40
l0llip0p	HexaChop: you have to super user	19:40
xXEoflaOEXx	MOUD, welcome.	19:40
ioria	HexaChop, use sudo .. then copy and paste the content of the link i gave you in sources.list	19:40
HexaChop	l0llip0p, ioria, it is already sudo...	19:40
xXEoflaOEXx	HexaChop, Open it using sudo gedit.	19:40
ioria	HexaChop, sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.back	19:41
HexaChop	ioria, no output	19:41
Xano	I'm using Duplicity, and making a full back-up and listing the current files works well. Only when trying to make an incremental back-up does Duplicity fail (output: http://pastebin.com/vjbY9zKK)	19:41
Xano	This error does not show up when searching online	19:42
ioria	HexaChop, ok sudo nano /etc/sources.list	19:42
ioria	HexaChop, ok sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list	19:42
HexaChop	xXEoflaOEXx, ioria. xXEoflaOEXx, Thank You.	19:42
xXEoflaOEXx	HexaChop, welcome.	19:42
ioria	HexaChop, don't use sudo with gui apps	19:42
ioria	HexaChop, but gksu...	19:42
darkblue_b	hi all - I just added a new drive to a 1404 machine.. there is no activity I know of, yet there is a steady 6M/sec write going on .. what is this ?	19:42
ioria	!gksu	19:43
ubottu	If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)	19:43
HexaChop	ioria, I have change the source.list into the one you have specified earlier.	19:43
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt update \| nc termbin.com 9999	19:43
basedmars	pkexec is the better alternative imho	19:44
HexaChop	ioria, http://termbin.com/a3oa	19:44
ioria	HexaChop, it's ok for me, now	19:44
ioria	HexaChop, if you installed nvidia from ppa yuo may need to add it again	19:45
HexaChop	ioria it is not installed at all	19:45
pavlos	HexaChop, can you install vim now (to make sure you can install packages)	19:46
ioria	HexaChop, i see something in your last pastebinits	19:46
ioria	*saw	19:46
darkblue_b	any idea on how to find out what process is writing ? I search `lsof` for a volume name but nothing	19:46
HexaChop	pavlos, sure. Command?	19:47
pavlos	HexaChop, sudo apt install vim	19:47
l0llip0p	darkblue_b: what does lsblk give you?	19:47
jatt	darkblue_b: iotop	19:47
HexaChop	pavlos, thx	19:47
HexaChop	pavlos, ioria, works.	19:47
darkblue_b	whoa - lsblk - new to me	19:47
ioria	HexaChop, dpkg -l vim	19:47
pavlos	HexaChop, cookies to ioria	19:47
MonkeyDust	darkblue_b try lsblk -f	19:47
darkblue_b	yes sdd ext4 blu317 /blu317	19:48
HexaChop	ioria, pavlos, http://termbin.com/f6y6	19:48
darkblue_b	.. thats the drive	19:48
ioria	HexaChop, hurra	19:48
darkblue_b	what cryptic set of options for iotop do you suggest ?	19:48
HexaChop	ioria no joke. :D	19:48
pavlos	HexaChop, you no longer report broken packages	19:49
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt full-upgrade	19:49
HexaChop	pavlos I think so	19:49
HexaChop	ioria, pavlos, IT UPGRADES FINALLY!	19:49
pavlos	HexaChop, you can do a sudo apt upgrade	19:49
darkblue_b	jatt iotop topions ?	19:50
ioria	HexaChop, ok.... just wait, you may need to use -f again	19:50
HexaChop	ioria, kk.	19:50
basedmars	man iotop darkblue_b	19:50
darkblue_b	oh comon	19:50
hwpplayer1	basedmars : why i can't see 16.04.1 but only 16.04	19:50
darkblue_b	if people suggest iotop then say the full line	19:50
pac1	looking for someone who knows ubuntu netorking.	19:51
pavlos	HexaChop, I suggest install synaptic (good to have ... sudo apt install synaptic)	19:51
pac1	Questions:	19:51
pac1	Is is possible to set up two interfaces on the same subnet?	19:51
HexaChop	pavlos, installed.	19:51
darkblue_b	anyway I see this 6M/sec constant WRITE is still going on this newly added drive.. no idea	19:51
pavlos	pac1 you mean eht0 and eth0:1	19:51
basedmars	what's your 'lsb_release -d' hwpplayer1	19:51
hwpplayer1	basedmars : Description:Ubuntu 16.04 LTS	19:52
HexaChop	ioria, I am awaiting your command.	19:52
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basedmars	I suggest 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade' hwpplayer1	19:52
pavlos	HexaChop, to recap, your system did update/upgrade and CAN install packages	19:53
hwpplayer1	basedmars : this is the only way to insstall a fresh system. then maybe i can sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade then maybe	19:53
pac1	sort of. these get renamed. and its usb0 and eth0 which get renamed to enp0s20u10u1 andenp3s0	19:53
HexaChop	pavlos, yup.	19:53
pac1	enp3s0 is the usual connection to my router.	19:54
pavlos	HexaChop, the next issue is your video I guess	19:54
pac1	the other is a Raspberry pi connected via usb.	19:54
ioria	HexaChop, what you wanna do ?	19:54
pavlos	HexaChop, which nvidia driver	19:54
ioria	oh, isee	19:54
HexaChop	ioria you said something about -f command	19:54
ioria	HexaChop, only if you have issues	19:55
hwpplayer1	basedmars : do you have any other suggestion ?	19:55
HexaChop	ioria, I can't install NVIDIA drivers, too.	19:55
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ioria	HexaChop, what command did you issued ?	19:55
HexaChop	ioria let's start from the beggining.	19:55
ioria	right	19:55
pavlos	HexaChop, bow you have the proper repo, it should work	19:55
HexaChop	beginning*, ioria.	19:55
pavlos	now	19:55
Jymmm	I have a Lenovo S10 netbook, and just installed the "netbook" variant of ubuntu. Would the latest LTS of ubuntu still support my hardware if I upgrade?	19:55
basedmars	Did you mean you want to install Ubuntu-16.04.1 on a fresh system hwpplayer1	19:56
ioria	HexaChop, what command are you using to tell that 'I can't install NVIDIA drivers' ?	19:56
hwpplayer1	basedmars : i can download the iso again and setup the system again , do i need that ?	19:56
HexaChop	ioria it was probably because of the wrong repo,	19:56
HexaChop	ioria I tried various commands.	19:56
ioria	HexaChop, dpkg -l \| grep nvidia*	19:57
HexaChop	ioria, no output.	19:57
basedmars	Yes. However you could use zsync service to save bandwidth by updating the previous iso hwpplayer1	19:57
ioria	HexaChop, ls /etc/apt/ sources.list.d	19:57
darkblue_b	ok iotop genuii -- it looks like ext4lazyinit	19:57
ioria	HexaChop, ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d	19:58
ducasse	hwpplayer1: if all updates are installed you are essentially on 16.04.1	19:58
darkblue_b	this is 1404, I dont recall seeing that, but the name sounds ok	19:58
codfection	how to monitor network activities in ubuntu?	19:58
HexaChop	ioria, graphics-drivers-ubuntu-ppa-yakkety.list	19:58
HexaChop	graphics-drivers-ubuntu-ppa-yakkety.list.save	19:58
hwpplayer1	ducasse : ok , i'll install all updates and work like 16.04.1	19:58
ioria	i knew that	19:58
ioria	HexaChop, you need to add again the source in sources.list if you want to use that ppa	19:59
HexaChop	ioria, how?	20:00
pac1	condfection, what network activities?	20:00
HexaChop	ioria, any easy way to do that?	20:00
ioria	HexaChop, and we want to use that ? :þ	20:00
HexaChop	ioria, wut?	20:00
pac1	codfection, what network activities?	20:01
ioria	HexaChop, sigh ..... sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa and sudo apt-get update	20:01
HexaChop	ioria done	20:02
ioria	HexaChop, updated ?	20:02
HexaChop	ioria, sorry for inconveniences. :)	20:02
HexaChop	ioria. Yup.	20:02
ioria	HexaChop, ok... and you want to install nvidia drivers ?	20:03
HexaChop	ioria, youp, hence I have NVIDIA GPUs.	20:03
ioria	HexaChop, sudo lshw -c Video	20:03
HexaChop	ioria, yup*	20:03
ioria	HexaChop, sudo lshw -c Video	20:03
HexaChop	ioria, http://termbin.com/omhi	20:04
ioria	HexaChop, using nomodeset ?	20:04
HexaChop	ioria, wut?	20:05
ioria	HexaChop, are you booting with nomodeset in grub ?	20:05
HexaChop	ioria, yup.	20:05
ioria	HexaChop, ok	20:06
ioria	HexaChop, can you paste ubuntu-drivers list	20:06
HexaChop	ioria, http://termbin.com/3gbn	20:07
ioria	HexaChop, we can try 375 ...	20:07
codfection	pac1, f.e. amazon services being used without my consent.	20:08
ioria	HexaChop, what cpu do you have ?	20:08
HexaChop	ioria, let's do it. i7 6700k 4GHZ 4-Core.	20:08
ioria	f	20:08
ioria	you're a mister	20:08
HexaChop	ioria what do you mean?	20:08
codfection	damn and still running ubuntu? its a gaming CPU man!	20:08
ioria	HexaChop, nothing :þ	20:09
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HexaChop	codfection, I have windows, too, linux is for programming. :)	20:09
codfection	HexaChop, ok nice.	20:09
HexaChop	ioria, it shows :?...	20:09
codfection	HexaChop, which language?	20:09
HexaChop	codfection, ty.	20:09
HexaChop	codfection, eng.	20:09
ioria	HexaChop, never installed for 2 1070 ....	20:09
codfection	programming language :\|	20:09
HexaChop	codfection I have 2x ASUS STRIX 1070 GPUs. and 32GB of RAM	20:10
codfection	HexaChop, ubuntu's sluggish unity still crashes on your beast PC? (internal error has occured) ?	20:10
ioria	HexaChop, prepare for purging operations .... :)	20:10
HexaChop	codfection, python and html, looking forward to C++ and other languages I will leanr while using linux.	20:10
Gamemako	Okay, so here's the gist. I have another crazy 32-bit EFI laptop here (Lenovo Flex 4). Installed Ubuntu, but can't boot directly. Using bootable USB and booting to the internal SD card via grub works. I have installed grub-efi-ia32 and all, but no dice on getting it to boot. The BIOS doesn't recognize the EFI partition or grub, goes to legacy/BIOS boot grub-rescue and tries to find i386-pc which doesn't exist (and can't exist, else	20:11
ioria	HexaChop, sudo apt-get install nvidia-375	20:11
HexaChop	codfection, surprisingly, it does crash a lot.	20:11
codfection	HexaChop, what error?	20:11
codfection	HexaChop, ubuntu is meant to crash. lol	20:11
HexaChop	codfection had over 500 errors while launching before.	20:11
codfection	HexaChop, and no crashes in windows right?	20:12
HexaChop	ioria, it is successfully installing.	20:12
HexaChop	cofection yup.	20:12
codfection	HexaChop, yup, that shows how failed ubuntu is	20:12
HexaChop	codfection, yup.	20:12
ioria	HexaChop, wait ...	20:12
HexaChop	ioria, yes?	20:12
ioria	HexaChop, using encryption, right ?	20:12
HexaChop	ioria I think, so, maybe, yes?	20:13
ioria	HexaChop, you should know mate	20:13
HexaChop	ioria I think I did encrypt something, but not my home dir.	20:13
HexaChop	codfection GTA V still laggs on ultra lol :D	20:14
ioria	HexaChop, do you insert passphrase when you boot ?	20:14
HexaChop	ioria, no.	20:14
ioria	HexaChop, no encryption then	20:14
HexaChop	ioria, there, problem solved.	20:14
ioria	yup	20:14
HexaChop	ioria, got a purple window. One of the texts say: UEFI Secure Boot is not compatible with the use of third-party drivers.	20:14
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ioria	HexaChop, just rebooted ? rigth now , i mean ...	20:15
HexaChop	codfection, UEFI new systems secures you from using any other OS except windows which is BS in my opinion.	20:16
HexaChop	ioria, not yet.	20:16
basedmars	you mean secureboot	20:16
HexaChop	ioria, it does not allow me to boot	20:16
HexaChop	ioria the installed od the NVIDIA	20:16
HexaChop	ioria of*	20:16
codfection	HexaChop, ubuntu has been a total disaster for me.	20:17
HexaChop	ioria, http://pastebin.com/MsRR6prm	20:17
codfection	it keeps crashing every time!	20:17
HexaChop	codfection, Hey! Nice to see you on my boat! Tickets are free!	20:17
pavlos	HexaChop, I think you should disable secureboot	20:18
ioria	HexaChop, let's say 'ok'	20:18
ioria	HexaChop, and yes, secure boot nuked	20:18
HexaChop	ioria so OK, lemme disable it.	20:18
codfection	HexaChop, unity is only being used in ubuntu and not in any other linux distros. no wonder it keeps crashing. devs are incompetent for GUi	20:19
Speiros	codfection what are you using?	20:20
ioria	codfection, you can install it on Arc	20:20
codfection	ioria, unity is not found on other distros. I checked it.	20:21
codfection	ioria, its for ubuntu exclusively	20:21
ioria	codfection, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/unity	20:21
codfection	ioria, its the forked version perhaps	20:21
Speiros	codfection, It seems to be working well on mine, although back in 2010 I did like the gnome desktop too.	20:21
ioria	codfection, idk, sy	20:21
codfection	Speiros, no crashes at all?	20:21
Speiros	codfection Why do you think it's causing you problems?	20:21
Speiros	No, not one	20:22
codfection	ubuntu lol	20:22
Speiros	Not with the unity interface	20:22
ioria	codfection, btw, you're right .. is very problematic	20:22
Speiros	codfection See, I did an update, but wasn't comfortable with it, and resolved the problems by reverting to the one that worked to all my needs.	20:22
pavlos	HexaChop, so, are nvidia drivers installed?	20:23
Speiros	codfection It is literally in an "as-is" state, excluding updates.	20:23
ioria	you don'thave to touch it or it goes mad	20:24
Speiros	codfection Not that I'm dissing your problems, but I am stating that not all instances does the unity, nor Ubuntu have problems like that.	20:24
codfection	Speiros, idk. ubuntu is holding all packages to make it "stable" and yet those crashes	20:25
HexaChop	ioria I am now 1080p!	20:25
Speiros	codfection It could very well be that I don't use the computer for many things, excepting making my music and documentation and the such too.	20:25
ioria	HexaChop, you damned lucky guy	20:25
Speiros	codfection Yeah, I appreciate that mate. Something is obviously needing work on to prevent it crashing on your machine.	20:25
HexaChop	ioria, but I am re-installing using sudo dpkg --configure -a because it was interrupted before. Thanks!	20:25
ioria	HexaChop, no problem	20:25
HexaChop	ioria, it is fully installed already :D	20:25
ioria	HexaChop, ok	20:26
HexaChop	ioria Holy SMOKES it feels amazing for my eyes.	20:26
ioria	HexaChop, grgrgrrgrgrgrgr	20:26
HexaChop	ioria exactly.	20:26
ioria	HexaChop, i hate you	20:26
HexaChop	ioria, Why? :((((( :D	20:26
ioria	HexaChop, kidding .þ	20:27
HexaChop	ioria. I know :D	20:27
pavlos	HexaChop, gtx 1070 seems to be a very good card	20:27
HexaChop	pavlos, not really.	20:27
HexaChop	pavlos even with 2 of them GTA V laggs.	20:28
HexaChop	at about 50FPS, pavlo.	20:28
HexaChop	at about 50FPS, pavlos	20:28
HexaChop	ioria it shows literally question mark instead of your emoji	20:28
codfection	is slack more active than IRC "??	20:29
ioria	HexaChop, :þ	20:29
ioria	HexaChop, :)	20:29
HexaChop	ioria, there :D	20:29
HexaChop	ioria, how do I minimize applications? :DDD	20:29
ducasse	codfection: if you just want to chat please go to #ubuntu-offtopic	20:30
ioria	HexaChop, meaning ?	20:30
HexaChop	ioria, seriously, I can't minimize apps like in windows.	20:30
codfection	ducasse, whats wrong?	20:30
HexaChop	ioria there is no "-" here.	20:30
codfection	ducasse, tell me how to make this ubuntu not crash on me giving the error "Internal error has occured"	20:30
codfection	16.04	20:31
ioria	HexaChop, oh.... bad news	20:31
HexaChop	ioria, lol, had to drag my mouse up :DDD	20:31
ioria	HexaChop, update and full-upgrade again and reboot	20:31
HexaChop	ioria, I am just purely raw-green in linux.	20:31
HexaChop	ioria, lol, had to drag my mouse up :DDDDDD	20:32
ioria	HexaChop, update and full-upgrade again and reboot	20:32
HexaChop	ioria, and the thingies appeared.	20:32
HexaChop	where the name is of the app appears the thingies when you put your mouse on the app name	20:32
k1l_	codfection: depends on what the error is. what crashes exactly?	20:33
ducasse	codfection: that's the first thing you've said since you came in here that has to do with ubuntu support.	20:33
ioria	HexaChop, you can also install another DE	20:33
HexaChop	ioria, the minus appears when you put your mouse on the top bar of the app when it is in full screen	20:33
HexaChop	ioria, let's try,	20:33
ioria	HexaChop, oh... well, maybe better fix your actual issue	20:35
codfection	k1l_, programs and sometimes desktop. corebird etc.	20:35
HexaChop	ioria, don't you get it? I have no more issues.	20:35
codfection	ducasse, read up please and then talk	20:36
ioria	HexaChop, oh, great	20:36
ioria	HexaChop, you can install gnome, or kde ot xfce4 or stuff if you want ... also lxde	20:36
hwpplayer1_	Description:Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS now it says that :) it's done	20:36
k1l_	codfection: you have been here before, so you know we cant handle "everything is broken" but need to focus on one issue with specific informations and work on that.	20:36
HexaChop	ioria I can easily switch between those?	20:36
ioria	HexaChop, they are all DE for linux	20:36
ducasse	codfection: i did, all i saw was ranting. provide details on your problem.	20:36
ioria	HexaChop, sure	20:36
k1l_	codfection: it looks to me that you dont want to solve issues but just want to rant out of frustration. then #ubuntu is the wrong place.	20:37
HexaChop	ioria let's DO IT.	20:37
ioria	HexaChop, how big is your hard drive ?	20:37
codfection	ducasse, would you expect me to be happy and pleased on those horrible crashes? what logic are you using?	20:37
HexaChop	ioria 500GB for linux-only	20:37
codfection	k1l_, corebird crashes	20:37
HexaChop	ioria my graphics... letters slightly blur out.	20:37
codfection	k1l_, and sometimes unity crashes	20:37
ioria	HexaChop, do you know kde ?	20:37
k1l_	codfection: what version in use? what ubuntu? what exact error? can you start corebird from a terminal and show the errors when it crashes in a pastebin?	20:38
HexaChop	ioria, no?	20:38
codfection	ducasse, you look very incompetent to me. please dont provide support with that attitude of yours. you are giving ubuntu community a bad name	20:38
ducasse	codfection: no, i expect you to stick to support issues here. you've still not provided any details.	20:38
codfection	k1l_, 16.04 lts	20:38
Speiros	codfection see this is why you have problems unresolve man.	20:38
ioria	HexaChop, you can install it with apt-get install kubntu-desktop ... but for now i suggest you to became familiar with unity	20:39
Speiros	If you punch the goalkeeper, the whole team is offside, if you know what I mean.	20:39
k1l_	codfection: stop that attitude against supporterst while you contributed nothing but ranting so far. if you are too frustrated for working with the support in here come back when you have calmed down.	20:39
ducasse	codfection: i'm not the one who came in here ranting about how useless ubuntu is.	20:39
codfection	k1l_, error appears in gui pop up saying" internal error has occured on 16.04"	20:39
k1l_	ducasse: let it go, its not helping the issue	20:39
HexaChop	ioria your suggestions seems reasonable.	20:40
codfection	ducasse, I am just gonna ignore you. and talk to someone who can actually help me out on ubuntu crashes. thanks	20:40
k1l_	codfection: i asked you specific questions and tasks	20:40
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HexaChop	ioria let's do it	20:40
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ducasse	k1l_: fine by me.	20:40
pavlos	HexaChop, to recap, your system is running well.	20:40
codfection	k1l_, and I gave you. let me show you image of the crash	20:40
k1l_	codfection: and i am loosing motivation to help you since you still dont provide infos and focus on ranting and insulting other users	20:40
HexaChop	ducasse, codfection, I can see you are both not friendlies, what is happening?	20:41
ducasse	HexaChop: let it go.	20:41
codfection	k1l_, not other users. only ducasse who is being oversmart here	20:41
k1l_	codfection: you are missing the point of my statement	20:41
ioria	HexaChop, given your hw and that you are a gamer i suggest you this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto	20:41
HexaChop	ioria, I needed that, despite the fact that I have a monitor Motherboard monitor mounted right into the PC. :D	20:42
ioria	HexaChop, ok, explore steam then	20:42
HexaChop	ioria, I can't see GPU though.	20:42
HexaChop	ioria, and I need that program for CPU too.	20:42
codfection	k1l_, uploading the image. taking time. please standby	20:43
HexaChop	ioria thanks for being so helpful. You are AWESOME.	20:43
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ioria	HexaChop, no problems, stay tuned	20:44
puremourning	hello, i have just run apt-get dist-upgrade on newly installed 16.04 LTS system running under Parallels VM and now the system seems to be looping on boot showing the ubuntu logo, then a filesystem message. fully reproducable (done it twice)	20:44
HexaChop	ioria OK, staying tuned, but for what reason?	20:44
codfection	k1l_, here it is.. https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rz22quUWoI8/WFShjTsqcII/AAAAAAAAFFg/4TMdqhPefmIVIr8Z2NYEUuOHQ58W_XMwQCLcB/s1600/sorry-ubuntu-1604-has-experienced-an-internal-error.png	20:44
k1l_	codfection: click on "show details"	20:44
ioria	HexaChop, come here sometimes if you have problems	20:44
sp_otaku	Installed the nextcloud snap, it's running but can't figure out how to change SNAP_COMMON, where the data is going to be stored.	20:44
HexaChop	ioria, I want you to ask something	20:44
ioria	HexaChop, and stay updated	20:45
k1l_	codfection: this warning is just like a red light on the speedometer on the car. "something is broken".	20:45
HexaChop	ioria, could you please give me some suggestions for temperature monitoring and something about unity?	20:45
dellavita	qualche italiano	20:45
pavlos	codfection, the show details should tell you what crashed	20:45
puremourning	fwiw the message displayd is /dev/sda1: clean .... files, .... blocks	20:45
bekks	!it \| dellavita	20:45
ubottu	dellavita: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)	20:45
codfection	k1l_, well that screenshot was when the error occured. will try to do show details next time if the error occurs.. :(	20:45
ioria	HexaChop, i gave you the link... for example you know that yakkety will be supported for only 6 months ?	20:45
codfection	k1l_, it randomly occurs thats the issue	20:46
HexaChop	ioria, no?	20:46
dellavita	join #ubuntu-it	20:46
k1l_	codfection: you can start corebird from a terminal and keep that terminal open as long as you want to use corebird. when it crashes you see the errors in that terminal	20:46
Halliday	Hey, do we have a tech support hcannel?	20:46
ioria	HexaChop, see.... you have to stay tuned :þ	20:46
Halliday	I have a really weird issue	20:46
codfection	k1l_, alright. cool	20:46
codfection	k1l_, what if the desktop crashes? its not always corebird you know	20:46
Speiros	dellavita e /join :)	20:46
k1l_	codfection: sometimes the message will appear on every boot (even if there is no new error) until you file a bug report, in some cases	20:47
dellavita	perche parlate solo inglese	20:47
Halliday	No USB keyboards will work on my laptop, and the built in one hasn't worked for a long time	20:47
Halliday	The USB thing is new	20:47
Speiros	Si parlo inglese qui	20:47
HexaChop	ioria, what about Unity type thingy?	20:47
Halliday	Using xinput lists them, but when I use xinput enable for their id, it says they're not found	20:47
Halliday	And when I do the same thing on this computer, which is also ubuntu, enable doesn't return that and the keyboards work	20:48
ioria	HexaChop, it's very sophisticated , but it's ok	20:48
HexaChop	ioria, and why my graphics are slightly blurry? I NEED MOOOOAAAARRRRR info about unity. Please? :)	20:48
Halliday	Does anyone know what might be going on?	20:48
ioria	HexaChop, you can set brightness	20:49
adu	How do I select a default sound device in alsa? (NOT pulseaudio)	20:49
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ducasse	HexaChop: have you tried adjusting the monitor controls?	20:49
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HexaChop	ioria, will that help my slightly blurry letter issue?	20:50
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Halliday	Please? I really need to be able to use that laptop	20:50
HexaChop	ducasse, it is beatiful on windows, mate.	20:50
Halliday	So it would be nice to have some help	20:50
ioria	HexaChop, nope :(	20:50
Speiros	dellavita Se si desidera parlare italiano c'è un altro canale. In caso contrario nessuno sa quello che viene detto.	20:50
ioria	HexaChop, ^ ducasse	20:50
HexaChop	ioria, how to edit the brightness? :D	20:50
adu	Every time ubuntu comes back from suspend, it switches from Sound Device 2 to Sound Device 1, and I want it to always pick Sound Device 2 by default, but I can't figure it out even with all the pulseaudio articles	20:50
ioria	HexaChop, vga, dvi hdmi ? what ?	20:51
codfection	k1l_, why is spanish going on in this channel? it doesn't violate the !ontopic?	20:51
ioria	HexaChop, dvi, i guess	20:51
ducasse	HexaChop: is it just fonts that are affected?	20:51
HexaChop	ducasse, it seems so	20:51
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* linux_user asks: Has anyone contemplated (or tried) setting up Ubuntu 16.10 using encryption and BTRFS as the root filesystem?		20:51
HexaChop	ioria, dvi?	20:51
ioria	HexaChop, in my experience, just replug it	20:51
bubbely	is it possible to use DD at a specfic offset	20:51
ntldr	http://i.imgur.com/jbkMXRX.png should I care about this issue if I don't use that theme?	20:51
codfection	linux_user, yes but I found .10 releases to be not so polish imho	20:51
HexaChop	ioria, It is HDMI	20:52
ducasse	HexaChop: try turning antialiasing on/off, or adjust font hinting	20:52
ioria	HexaChop, can you paste xrandr	20:52
bubbely	and... can i mount a COM port	20:52
codfection	linux_user, whats your issue thou?	20:52
HexaChop	ducasse, how to do that? I am raw-green in linux.	20:52
Speiros	dellavita È possibile utilizzare quel link, ma avete bisogno di un "/" fronte :)	20:52
Ben64	!it \| Speiros	20:52
ubottu	Speiros: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)	20:52
ioria	HexaChop, i use xrandr --output myoutput --brightness 0.7 (or so)	20:52
HexaChop	ioria DVI is so old, you have no idea....	20:53
ioria	HexaChop, can you paste xrandr	20:53
k1l_	codfection: its not spanish, and it was to guide a user to the italian channels and tell him that this is english only channel. and i dont think you, who just waisted 20 lines with bad attitude and ranting, should tell other users what is right or wrong in here :/	20:53
Speiros	Ben64 ...thanks.	20:53
HexaChop	ioria, error even here: warning: output myoutput not found; ignoring	20:53
HexaChop	xrandr: Need crtc to set gamma on.	20:53
bubbely	anyone?	20:53
Halliday	Does anyone know how to fix my issue?	20:53
ioria	HexaChop, paste it	20:53
Halliday	I'd really appreciate some support	20:54
ducasse	HexaChop: i have no idea where those settings are under unity, but you can access them with lxappearance for example	20:54
Halliday	I've been unable to find any issues like it	20:54
HexaChop	ducasse unity is where I am in now? default ubuntu?	20:54
codfection	k1l_, my ranting is 100% justified to the support channel. its not irrelevant and baseless	20:54
Ben64	Speiros: dunno what you're on about	20:54
k1l_	codfection: last warning: this channel is not for ranting.	20:54
ioria	ducasse, that is for lxde, i guess	20:54
HexaChop	ioria, doesn't work	20:54
Speiros	You sent me a link so I could go there if I wanted to speak Italian?	20:54
rizonz	will the php version from now in be in /etc/php instead of /etc/phpX ?	20:54
Ben64	Speiros: because you kept speaking italian here...	20:55
ducasse	ioria: all it does is set gtk settings	20:55
Speiros	Ben64 That is because I am helping someone who asked why they had to speak English, but they only speak Italian.	20:55
Ben64	Speiros: you mean the person who left 7 minutes ago?	20:55
linux_user	codfection: Issue? my ex g/f said I have issues but she never told me what they were!	20:56
codfection	k1l_, I appreciate your help for users around here but I suggest you to listen to their problems fully. but yea I got what you mean. not gonna rant anymore. will wait for the crash and report it back to you	20:56
ioria	HexaChop, xrandr \| nc 5.39.93.71 9999	20:56
Speiros	Ben64...er...they left?	20:56
HexaChop	ioria I see no "Super"...	20:56
Ben64	Speiros: :)	20:56
ioria	HexaChop, xrandr \| nc 5.39.93.71 9999	20:56
HexaChop	ioria, sais use netcat	20:56
HexaChop	ioria, says*	20:56
HexaChop	ioria, worked	20:57
Speiros	Ben64 In that case...yes	20:57
HexaChop	ioria, http://termbin.com/1nla	20:57
Speiros	lol	20:57
adu	does anyone have experience with sound/pulseaudio/alsa?	20:57
codfection	adu, I use pulseaudio. why	20:57
ioria	HexaChop, you're using HDMI-1 why not di ?	20:57
ioria	*dvi	20:57
adu	codfection, Im trying to set the default output device, and having trpouble	20:57
basedmars	are you on lubuntu adu?	20:57
HexaChop	ioria, because DVI is as hell a lot more blurry and HDMI is for my GPU, although I have DVI port, I am not using it. ever.	20:58
codfection	adu, what defaults are you using	20:58
Speiros	*realises he's talking to himself...so plays with his yoyo...	20:58
adu	basedmars, I'm on ubuntu+gnome-shell	20:58
HexaChop	!ping	20:58
ubottu	pong!	20:58
ioria	HexaChop, you have two hdmi ....	20:58
HexaChop	ioria, 4 on single GPU.	20:58
adu	codfection, I can't figure out how, the pulseaudio tutorials aren't working	20:58
adu	codfection, I'm thinking I need to set the default output device with also or something	20:59
adu	alsa*	20:59
HexaChop	ioria, I can get adapters for even more ports because those ports are made for adapters.	20:59
ioria	HexaChop, if you see blurry icons, blurry letter ... you may shutdown and replug the cable	20:59
codfection	adu, why its not setting the default audio to pulseaudio?	20:59
linux_user	codfection: ext4 works fine for me, no problems...but...I am considering migrating to either ZFS or btrfs, and it seems that since btrfs can be built in and more easily booted from, I am wondering how hard and what the potential pitfalls/downfalls are with doing so...	20:59
HexaChop	ioria, ok, brb.	20:59
ioria	HexaChop, firmly	20:59
codfection	linux_user, whats the big deal between btrfs and ext4	20:59
codfection	linux_user, is there an advantage for SSDs?	21:00
HexaChop	ioria, done.	21:00
adu	codfection, I followed the tutorials to set the default device with pulseaudio, however, after suspend it always selects hdmi (5.1 channel), but my TV is hdmi	21:00
adu	hdmi(stereo)	21:00
codfection	adu, which tutorials?	21:00
HexaChop	ioria, still, blurry, my cable is very powerful so IDK what is going on, on windows it seems fine.	21:00
basedmars	There's a dangerous bug on btrfs linux_user . This could have been fixed tho. I wouldn't use btrfs for production case	21:00
ioria	HexaChop, no idea ... try another hdmi port	21:01
Ben64	HexaChop: how is it blurry	21:01
Speiros	codfection There was a good article comparing the two: SSD's and HDD's. I can try to find it...?	21:01
adu	codfection, like this http://askubuntu.com/questions/71863/how-to-change-pulseaudio-sink-with-pacmd-set-default-sink-during-playback	21:01
linux_user	basedmars: what is the big bug in btrfs?	21:02
ducasse	linux_user: i much prefer zfs, but btrfs is working nicely now in my experience. really nice to have snapshots on /.	21:02
codfection	adu, perhaps ask the more experienced users here	21:02
linux_user	I will absolutely not use btrfs if it has a big can corrupt my files	21:02
linux_user	then its junk and I wont use it at all	21:02
basedmars	linux_user, https://twitter.com/btrfs/status/762589934662193152?lang=en	21:02
adu	I hate having to switch from 5.1 to stereo every time i come back from the bathroom :(	21:02
codfection	Speiros, what to compare lol. SSD is the best. thats it.	21:02
linux_user	ducasse, let me see this major bug first that basedmars is talking about	21:02
codfection	adu, sad. its too much of work, isnt it	21:03
linux_user	ducasse: zfs is not bootable on Linux I thought	21:03
HexaChop	Ben64, letters, slightly blurry.	21:03
ducasse	linux_user: that's for raid 5/6 which i wouldn't use	21:03
HexaChop	ioria, maybe missing some other drivers?	21:03
HexaChop	ioria, on windows, I had to install A LOT more drivers.	21:03
ducasse	linux_user: it is bootable, but major hassle and unsupported	21:03
k1l_	ducasse: "not bootable"?	21:03
codfection	linux_user, I think it has issues with grub	21:03
Speiros	codfection Ah, I misread your question.	21:03
ioria	HexaChop, mmm, don't think so, but maybe i'am wrong	21:03
k1l_	linux_user: "not bootable"?	21:03
k1l_	ducasse: sorry, typo	21:04
ducasse	k1l_: np	21:04
HexaChop	ioria I have no "Super" button.	21:04
linux_user	all: first, an unsupported boot of zfs is of disinterest to me	21:04
ioria	HexaChop, the network icon in the top bar is blurry ?	21:04
HexaChop	ioria, no	21:04
linux_user	all: second, I am not planning to use raid 5/6 so that btrfs bug is of no issue to me	21:04
k1l_	linux_user: you seem to mix things here.	21:04
ioria	HexaChop, so what is blurry ?	21:04
linux_user	huh?	21:05
codfection	Speiros, it happens dont worry	21:05
HexaChop	ioria, text is blurry for some reason	21:05
ducasse	linux_user: you _can_ boot from zfs if you really want to, but on ubuntu it is only supported for data	21:05
ioria	HexaChop, alslo in firefox ?	21:05
k1l_	linux_user: the ubuntu installer doesnt have support to create zfs / partitions. but you can make those manually and have zfs as / partition.	21:05
ioria	HexaChop, also in firefox ?	21:05
HexaChop	ioria I am in firefox :D	21:05
linux_user	ah okay	21:05
Speiros	Windows button HexaChop ?	21:05
linux_user	I am fine with btrfs	21:05
linux_user	if it is supported	21:05
ioria	HexaChop, in gedit ?	21:05
linux_user	I do not need raid 5/6	21:05
EDinNY	16.04. just got back from vacation. Hooked my LG monitor back up to my laptop, and it thinks it is a Goldstar, instead, and does not have the correct resolution.	21:05
linux_user	let me ask this then:	21:06
HexaChop	ioria doesn't seem to be blurry.	21:06
ioria	HexaChop, in terminal ?	21:06
linux_user	is installing too and booting from btrfs supported in the 16.10 installer of Ubuntu?	21:06
ducasse	linux_user: straight btrfs on single disk or raid 0/1 works fine imo	21:06
HexaChop	EDinNY made me laugh :D	21:06
ducasse	linux_user: yes	21:06
linux_user	good	21:06
EDinNY	HexaChop: any suggestions?	21:06
HexaChop	ioria terminal is very not blurry. sharp.	21:06
linux_user	raid 0/1 is all I plan on at the moment	21:06
linux_user	whence this bug is fixed it should be just a kernel upgrade I'd think anyway	21:06
ioria	HexaChop, so only firefox ?	21:06
linux_user	not reformatting the btrfs partitions	21:07
HexaChop	EDinNY, I have no idea. Why would it switch for no reason? Linux is weird.	21:07
codfection	EDinNY, set the resolution using xrandr and save the layout. done. !next	21:07
HexaChop	ioria, seems like so, yea.	21:07
ioria	HexaChop, apt-cache policy firefox	21:07
HexaChop	!next	21:07
HexaChop	!ping	21:07
ubottu	pong!	21:07
codfection	!debian	21:07
ubottu	Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/ubuntu-and-debian - !Repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!	21:07
codfection	!arch	21:08
HexaChop	ioria, http://termbin.com/rndi	21:08
ioria	HexaChop, it's ok	21:08
HexaChop	ioria, what do u mean?	21:09
ioria	HexaChop, it's updated	21:09
linux_user	ducasse: so if I wish to use btrfs, too boot from it and install too it, and use raid 0/1, then it seems like it'd be okay to do that in general?	21:09
HexaChop	ioria, oh, ok.	21:09
HexaChop	ioria, I have no audio realtek driver	21:09
ioria	HexaChop, i have to go, good luck	21:10
ioria	sy	21:10
Ben64	linux_user: just keep backups	21:10
generic	Hello world	21:10
Speiros	Hi generic:)	21:10
HexaChop	ioria bye	21:10
ducasse	linux_user: in my opinion, yes. i know several people who use btrfs under the circumstances i mentioned earlier, none of them has had problems.	21:10
ducasse	linux_user: only raid 5/6 is problematic, and has always been so.	21:10
HexaChop	speiros, how to get raltek drivers on linux?	21:11
HexaChop	speiros, realtek*	21:12
Speiros	HexaChop I dont recall. Let me see if there's a page for it.	21:12
ducasse	linux_user: you can always ask in #btrfs, but they're sort of biased ;)	21:12
HexaChop	speiros, OK, thanks.	21:12
nicomachus	I'm trying to install a package called "librespot" from github via rust and cargo, and am getting this error when compiling "syntex_syntax": https://paste.ubuntu.com/23762603/	21:13
linux_user	true true	21:13
hwpplayer1_	how can i mount an ext4 external HDD	21:13
nicomachus	any ideas what could be causing the error? That's the full --verbose output.	21:13
linux_user	though part of my question was also install support for Ubuntu	21:13
linux_user	they would send me here ostensibly had I asked that there	21:13
ducasse	linux_user: i recommend zfs for data storage and other things that is not /, though. it's just nicer and more mature.	21:14
Speiros	HexaChop Here's an article from 2014 (my version) https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2205497	21:14
linux_user	ducasse: I agree entirely	21:14
linux_user	I am about to build a FreeNAS server too	21:14
Speiros	HexaChop, Actually, it was a couple of months prior.	21:14
linux_user	that will be pure ZFS	21:14
Speiros	hwpplayer1_ What is happening? Have you plugged it in already?	21:15
HexaChop	Speiros, hmm..	21:15
Speiros	HexaChop What is wrong with it?	21:15
hwpplayer1_	Speiros : i just formatted the old ext4 system disk , and create an external disk ext4 formatted. But i have permisson issue	21:16
ducasse	linux_user: on my desktop, / is btrfs, /home is zfs and the rest is zfs over nfs. works really well.	21:16
Speiros	hwpplayer1_, Ah, I see. I can also only open my HDD on admin, and then share it to this account.	21:16
Speiros	hwpplayer1_, Is that the same issue?	21:16
basedmars	Since you guys are using zfs, would you recommend zfs for cold hdd storage. I mean unplugged linux_user ducasse . I've been wanting to use zfs, but no use-cases yet.	21:17
codfection	!gentoo	21:17
ubottu	Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Arch Linux, Manjaro, Slackware (using other packaging systems)	21:17
hwpplayer1_	Sperios : something like that	21:17
Speiros	hwpplayer1_, Ok, so the problem is accessing the HDD from the user account?	21:17
hwpplayer1_	Sperios : yep	21:18
Ben64	hwpplayer1_: so you can mount it	21:18
hwpplayer1_	Ben64 : i was searching for that	21:18
ducasse	basedmars: i don't see why not.	21:19
Ben64	hwpplayer1_: explain exactly what is going on	21:19
Speiros	hwpplayer1_, Are you also the admin on your computer?	21:19
hwpplayer1_	Speiros : Yes this is my own computer	21:20
Speiros	Ok:)	21:20
hwpplayer1_	Speiros : i'm searching how to mount a disk on Ubuntu	21:20
Speiros	hwpplayer1_, So you're not running Ubuntu currently, but wanting to from the ext4?	21:21
vegii	hwpplayer1_: open disk utility, select partition, press "mount" (play icon)	21:21
h4xX4rN	hello	21:21
hwpplayer1_	Speiros : I run Ubuntu Desktop , i have an external HDD	21:22
h4xX4rN	-x	21:22
linux_user	Did some more reading on that page ducasse, yeah if you do not use raid 5/6 it seems fine to use btrfs	21:22
linux_user	granted, ZFS with raidz is better	21:23
linux_user	but as an upgrade to ext4 for booting Ubuntu I like btrfs from what I saw so far	21:23
hwpplayer1_	vegii : Ext4 (version 1.0) — Mounted at /media/hwpplayer1/989ffdae-0284-4519-8880-8b1c7445ecc6 it says that on Gnome Disks	21:23
Speiros	hwpplayer1_, Ok, so what disk do you want to mount?	21:23
linux_user	FreeNAS is a very good way to run ZFS and have a lot of options for it!	21:23
Speiros	hwpplayer1_, Did you mean hdd and not disk?	21:24
hwpplayer1_	Speiros : it's an External HDD , i can't write something on it	21:24
Speiros	hwpplayer1_, Yep, okay. That's what I thought you meant, but when you mentioned disk I was confused.	21:24
Speiros	:)	21:24
vegii	hwpplayer1_: also, you shouldn't need root to mount an external hdd on ubuntu desktop afaik	21:24
Altom	Hello ! The canon printer driver's daemon delays the shutdown of my machine by 5 minutes (time betwen the sigterm and the sigkill). I couldn't find anywhere how to set the timeout to sigkill to 5 seconds or something	21:25
Speiros	vegii, that's true, but it is an issue. I have the same on my computer.	21:25
hwpplayer1_	vegii : so how can i use that external HDD	21:25
ducasse	linux_user: yep. btrfs is great for /, gives you some nice features. check out apt-btrfs-snapshot.	21:25
Ben64	hwpplayer1_: so it is mounted, so you don't need to know how to mount it	21:26
vegii	hwpplayer1_: if I had that problem, I'd try unmounting it and mounting again in gnome-disks	21:26
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Ben64	hwpplayer1_: sounds like you just need to give permission to your user to write to it	21:26
linux_user	apt-btrfs-snapshot is a package?	21:26
Ben64	hwpplayer1_: is anything on it?	21:26
Speiros	Ben64 That is it, yes.	21:27
HexaChop	Spieros, I am in Windows now.	21:27
HexaChop	Speiros*	21:27
Speiros	HexaChop, Okay. Are you happier with it?	21:27
hwpplayer1_	Ben64 : yep , i need to add my hwpplayer1 user to that group	21:27
linux_user	I see that package now	21:27
HexaChop	Speiros, how to set up GRUB so I could select between windows and Linux?	21:27
linux_user	interesting!	21:27
hwpplayer1_	Ben64 : But which group is that ?	21:27
Ben64	hwpplayer1_: sudo chown hwpplayer1:hwpplayer1 /media/hwpplayer1/989ffdae-0284-4519-8880-8b1c7445ecc6	21:28
vegii	hwpplayer1_: there might be files on that disk that have some unix permissions for other users. chown or sudo nautilus should work	21:28
hwpplayer1_	Ben64 : Thanks , it was that	21:29
hwpplayer1_	Thanks friends , now i need to sleep	21:29
hwpplayer1_	Have a good day	21:29
Speiros	goodnight:)	21:29
Altom	I tried almost everything, even tried to pkill the daemon before shutdown, it doesn't work	21:30
Altom	It's the CAPT printerdriver v2.70, it's the latest	21:30
HexaChop	Speiros, are you there?	21:30
Speiros	HexaChop, I'll have a look on the net, and see what's there, as I don't now grub either:) Sorry man, but my knowledge base is very, very small, and I believe it's getting more restricted as time goes on.	21:31
HexaChop	Speiros, OK.	21:31
Altom	I checked all the config files to see if there is something related to timeout between sigterm and sigkill but couldn't find	21:31
glitchd	HexaChop, is grub installed?	21:31
HexaChop	Anybody knows how GRUB works?	21:31
HexaChop	glitchd, yes, it came with linux	21:31
glitchd	HexaChop, and you are able to boot into linux with it, correct?	21:32
HexaChop	glitchd, yes.	21:32
glitchd	HexaChop, are you positive that you did not delete the windows paritition?	21:32
linux_user	ducasse: I am going to do a 16.10 install under VMware and play with btrfs a bit on root	21:32
HexaChop	I am back, switched IRC channels.	21:33
HexaChop	IRC clients rather	21:33
glitchd	HexaChop, are you positive that you did not delete the windows paritition?	21:33
HexaChop	glithcd i am in windows now lol	21:33
ducasse	linux_user: yes, get used to it before using it 'live'	21:33
HexaChop	glitchd, I am in windows now, lol.	21:33
glitchd	HexaChop, well i am not sure how to fix grub from windows..	21:33
HexaChop	glitchd, my linux is on another distant harddrive.	21:34
ducasse	linux_user: learn how to make snapshots and rollback etc	21:34
glitchd	HexaChop, when you next boot into linux run "sudo update-grub" and see if it finds windows	21:34
HexaChop	glitchd, let me boot into it right now.	21:34
glitchd	HexaChop, alrighty then	21:34
digital_ghost	is there ubuntu productivity application, which lets you set goals to achive within a particular time and alarm you.basically like a timetable	21:35
vegii	some time ago I thought I needed one large hdd/ssd for all OSes to be displayed in grub but thankfully, reality is much nicer	21:36
bekks	digital_ghost: are you looking for a project management tool?	21:36
dbazim	anybody know if NEC Corporation uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 30 [XHCI]) support is broken in 4.4.0-58-generic ? I have problem with it.	21:36
linux_user	ducasse: exactly, that is what the vmware instance would be fore...to play with it safely before I migrate to it entirely	21:36
Speiros	HexaChop As a side point, I did find an article similar, but from not being able to get into linux. It's here: - https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2348841	21:38
digital_ghost	bekks:not really , just simple to-do list like app.kind of like the one you find on android	21:38
linux_user	brb	21:39
bekks	digital_ghost: I am not using Android, so I dont know anything about that "app".	21:39
lasersaber	what's a good video desktop recorder?	21:40
digital_ghost	bekks:I wasn't mentioning any particular app.Just saying there are lot of to-do apps for android and iphone	21:41
HexaChop	Speiros, I cant boot into linux it is just purple screen.	21:41
Tywars	.	21:42
HexaChop	Speiros, after inserting all HDDs and CDROM.	21:42
Speiros	HexaChop, Sorry, you were away and I didn't realise. Heres a link.	21:42
Speiros	https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2348841	21:42
Speiros	HexaChop, This is probably your same problem?	21:43
HexaChop	When installing windows ssd was disconnected.	21:43
HexaChop	Speiros,	21:44
Speiros	HexaChop, Yep?	21:44
HexaChop	Above text, Speiros.	21:44
Speiros	Yes, the link I sent you was answered about 40 minutes ago, by what appears to be the same problem.	21:45
Speiros	HexaChop, Is it different?	21:45
HexaChop	Speiros, it shows just blank purple screen.	21:47
Speiros	HexaChop, Yeah, I see...I wonder what disappeared from the file to make it not boot up.	21:47
HexaChop	Speiros, I reconnected all HDDS, SSDS and CDROM.	21:48
plshelp	trying to learn how to use dd to backup my ~500gb hd. what block size should i use?	21:48
lasersaber	HexaChop, im guess you were able to boot from live usb.	21:48
Speiros	HexaChop Ok, so backpedalling a bit...these weren't connected before when your Ubuntu was working?	21:49
HexaChop	lasersaber with just one HDD that has linux in it, then i can boot.	21:49
HexaChop	Speiros, basically.	21:49
glitchd	HexaChop, sounds like you still need to update-grub to fix the grub config then	21:50
Speiros	HexaChop, Okay. Can you go back to how it was, and see if it works firstly, and then we can load one at a time, and see which one is causing the issue...probably the CD drive.	21:50
neals	hey, i have ubuntu MATE and recently notifications are not running; when i try to listen to some audio, i assume the sound settings are muted since I can't hear anything, in genral: apps that work as tray icons no longer opens up or rather not showing up, and i was wandering how i can fix this issue.	21:51
glitchd	Speiros, omg if its booting from cd and not the hd, i will seriously muck my pants..lol	21:51
Speiros	glitchd It isn't about the booting, but about what hardware was added since the install that worked...at least that is how I'm seeing it. Then we can work out what drivers are needed, if that is the problem.	21:52
blueking	is it much work to add vlan tagging on nic's ?	21:53
bekks	No.	21:53
Speiros	glitchd But yeah, how frustrating if it ended totally back at square one, although I doubt it very much:)	21:54
marchelly	Hi, I'm doing do-release-upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 like aptitude update; aptitude upgrade and do-release-upgrade. Everything went fine and after reboot I'm not able to ssh the server but it's pingable and only FTP port is active, I can connect with FTP user. I can use rescue mode from hosting and after chroot to my working env I'm doing lsb_release -a and it shows me 14.04. So now I know that server boots and even vsftpd starts, but nothing else. How s	21:56
marchelly	hould I debug this? What actions to do? If I set sshd_config port to 2222 and make service ssh restart, everyhing works fine.	21:56
lasersaber	HexaChop, so now u can boot with live ubuntu but only see a purple screen?	21:56
k1l_	marchelly: see if the ssh server is running?	21:58
lasersaber	marchelly, maybe #ubuntu-server	21:58
MonkeyDust	marchelly so setting it to 2222 solves it?	21:58
marchelly	k1l_, just in chroot	21:58
HexaChop	Speiros, taken out the CDROM, everything works fine except there is no Loading screen.	21:58
HexaChop	Speiros, I am chating to you via linux now.	21:58
Speiros	HexaChop, What do you mean loading screen?	21:58
marchelly	MonkeyDust, no, just in chroot. Just fortesting that sshd isworking fine running it by hand, and yes,it'sworking.	21:59
HexaChop	Speiros, there are no logo Ubuntu and no dots.	21:59
k1l_	marchelly: try to restart ssh and see if there is an error? maybe the old ssh conf had changes that dont work with the new ssh version?	21:59
marchelly	k1l_, no, when running ssh in chroot it works fine and I'm able to connect remotely	21:59
lasersaber	HexaChop, boot using the advanced option recovery then resume booting	21:59
k1l_	marchelly: so its just not starting at startup?	22:00
HexaChop	lasersaber, reason for that?	22:00
HexaChop	lasersaber, how to update GRUB	22:00
Ilmen	Hello; I've tried installing the DMD compiler with a .deb file from http://dlang.org/download.html, but when I try to install it with dpkg, it throws at me an error "attempt to replace /usr/bin/dman". It seems there is a file name conflict with an already existing file on my disk. What should I in this case? (I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS)	22:00
marchelly	k1l_, hw can I debug rc booting services, as it looks likethat it only boots vsftpd and nothing else (there are apache, nginx, and other services set to be started on boot)	22:01
lasersaber	HexaChop, i was having similar issue and that's how i was able to boot into ubuntu	22:01
marchelly	k1l_, yes, it's not starting on server start	22:01
k1l_	marchelly: its using upstart on 14.04	22:01
HexaChop	lasersaber I am in ubuntu right now	22:01
Ilmen	Someone suggested me to use dpkg-divert	22:01
HexaChop	lasersaber I don't want to do that every time though	22:01
HexaChop	Speiros, how to update GRUB?	22:02
marchelly	k1l_, so how should I fix this? upstart?	22:02
digital_ghost	i am getting package not found error , all the time. need assistance to fix it	22:02
k1l_	marchelly: ubuntu did use "upstart" as the init untill ubuntu 15.04.	22:02
johnnybravo	Hello everybody	22:02
digital_ghost	can't update repo	22:03
lasersaber	HexaChop, is ubuntu installed or u on liveusb?	22:03
MonkeyDust	digital_ghost what's the outcome of cat /etc/issue	22:03
marchelly	k1l_, Iwas using rcconf before to set services that should run on boot	22:03
HexaChop	lasersaber, no on HDD, I have drivers installed already	22:03
marchelly	so now I should use another techniq?	22:03
Speiros	Can someone correct me if I'm wrong...	22:03
k1l_	marchelly: so maybe that is the reason why that doesnt work now on 14.04	22:04
digital_ghost	MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS \n \l	22:04
k1l_	!upstart \| marchelly	22:04
ubottu	marchelly: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model. For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/	22:04
Speiros	HexaChop, I believe it's man update grub	22:04
johnnybravo	I need assitance in regards to using a vpn. I dont want to set up a server, I simply want to connect trough a VPN. Any help is appreciated.	22:04
HexaChop	speiros, maybe sudo update-grub?	22:04
lasersaber	HexaChop, 16.04?	22:04
HexaChop	lasersaber, 16.10.	22:04
k1l_	marchelly: there should be the initjobs .conf in /etc/init	22:04
Speiros	HexaChop, sounds good. man should pull up a manual for it.	22:05
MonkeyDust	digital_ghost what's the outcome of sudo apt update ... use this page to show it to the channel ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/	22:05
marchelly	k1l_, okay, let me chroot one more time and check that.	22:05
HexaChop	Everyone, why when booting ubuntu, there is no loading screen?	22:06
lasersaber	HexaChop, use Grub Customizer	22:06
k1l_	HexaChop: there is as standard. you get the purple ubuntu screen and then the login screen	22:07
adrian_1908	I don't know whether to ask here in in #python, but can anyone tell me why python3-pip has such big dependencies, including python *-dev packages?	22:07
lasersaber	HexaChop, http://tipsonubuntu.com/2016/10/15/install-grub-customizer-ubuntu-16-10/	22:07
HexaChop	k1l_ I get nothing just purple screen	22:07
digital_ghost	MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23767060/	22:07
adrian_1908	*here or in	22:07
k1l_	HexaChop: except you did remove "quiet splash" for debugging reasons	22:07
johnnybravo	Hello everybody, how to connect through a VPN on ubuntu?	22:07
k1l_	HexaChop: that is the loading screen.	22:07
MonkeyDust	!vpn \| johnnybravo start here	22:07
ubottu	johnnybravo start here: For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN	22:07
reisio	johnnybravo: ddclient	22:07
k1l_	HexaChop: this: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/ubuntu-boot-flash-screen.jpg	22:08
johnnybravo	thank you guys	22:08
lasersaber	HexaChop, also sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade	22:08
k1l_	johnnybravo: the network-manager got vpn support maybe you need to install the related vpn packages for specific protocols	22:09
MonkeyDust	digital_ghost that's a lot of ppas	22:09
basedmars	If the loading screen don't show up, does it affect the system as a whole. I mean is it become unusable tho HexaChop	22:09
MonkeyDust	digital_ghost ppas are not supported here, try disabling them, first	22:09
HexaChop	lasersaber, how to re-enable loading screen?	22:10
k1l_	digital_ghost: the qucs PPA doesnt have any support for 16.04. so remove that	22:10
johnnybravo	okay i see, dont i need any third party client? like cyberghost etc?	22:10
marchelly	k1l_, there is an initjon in /etc/init/ssh.conf	22:10
marchelly	*initjob	22:10
k1l_	johnnybravo: no, not really.	22:10
lasersaber	sudo startx	22:10
lasersaber	?	22:10
Ben64	no	22:10
k1l_	lasersaber: no, dont do that	22:11
lasersaber	never mind	22:11
HexaChop	k1l_ how to re-enable loading screen?	22:11
k1l_	HexaChop: ? what screen exactly?	22:12
HexaChop	k1l_ The boot loading screen.	22:12
k1l_	HexaChop: do you mean the "login screen"? or the purple screen while the system is loading (the one i posted)	22:12
HexaChop	k1l_ the one you posted	22:12
basedmars	I think he meant the one you posted	22:12
lasersaber	HexaChop, the boot loader screen where you choose OS you want to boot?	22:13
k1l_	HexaChop: do you see a black screen with the kernel messages running on boot?	22:13
HexaChop	lasersaber, no, the one that shows laoding animations	22:13
Speiros	I think he's seeing a blank purple screen	22:13
HexaChop	k1l_ just purple screen, absolutely nothing else.	22:13
HexaChop	lasersaber, loading*	22:14
k1l_	marchelly: what runlevels are named inside the file to start on?	22:14
marchelly	start on runlevel [2345]	22:15
k1l_	marchelly: that is correct.	22:15
basedmars	I don't have the loading screen too. It boot so fast, it just go right to the user login. that's on hdd btw	22:15
basedmars	It's usable, so it's alright	22:15
k1l_	marchelly: maybe you need to look into syslog or upstart log if there is something happening	22:15
marchelly	k1l_, let me check this, moment	22:15
lasersaber	HexaChop, do you get a user login screen?	22:15
HexaChop	basedmars, for me it takes about a minute, I don't know if it is frozen or loading...	22:16
HexaChop	lasersaber, no.	22:16
k1l_	HexaChop: did you remove "quiet splash" from the kernel line on boot?	22:16
SierraKomodo	Anyone able to help me figure out why this file refuses to run, saying it doesn't exist despite ls -al saying it does exist with execute perms? https://zerobin.net/?759a431f1eda45a2#EgavSS3O8HuMCeQjqhfze4GgEszLBA1zY5+MgCgmWUw=	22:16
HexaChop	k1l_, there is nouveau.modeset=0 instead.	22:16
SierraKomodo	This is on Ubuntu Desktop 16.04, 64-bit	22:16
k1l_	HexaChop: ok, try to add "quiet splash" on the grub one time to test if that is working	22:17
HexaChop	k1l_ but it resets back to quiet splash after rebooting anyways.	22:17
k1l_	!nomodeset \| HexaChop this explains how to add/rmeove stuff there for one time boot. just add "quiet splash"	22:17
ubottu	HexaChop this explains how to add/rmeove stuff there for one time boot. just add "quiet splash": A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter	22:17
MonkeyDust	SierraKomodo cd to the folder and then use ./Franz	22:18
HexaChop	k1l_ let me reboot and check...	22:18
tekeli-li	Is it by design that the system beep (or bell or whatever) is disabled in Ubuntu? If so, why?	22:19
tekeli-li	Context for my question: https://askubuntu.com/a/587311	22:19
k1l_	tekeli-li: yes its the standard setting. on most distros, i guess	22:20
tekeli-li	It's not just me than. That's nice to know, but the why is also of interest to me.	22:20
SierraKomodo	MonkeyDust: That didn't work either. As a note, this is me trying to debug why it won't run when I double-click the icon in file manager. https://zerobin.net/?583d865949d656c8#W3ElY2NV0Awio1LU+JcdbbZO81Vpt3ULPoonQKsKfFg=	22:21
marchelly	k1l_, nothing interesting there on I donot know what I'm looking for	22:21
HexaChop	k1l_, told you it would reset, but this time I am getting the dots and a purple strip underneath...	22:22
MonkeyDust	SierraKomodo pastebin cat Franz ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/	22:23
lasersaber	HexaChop, do you a screen like this? https://i.stack.imgur.com/8RYuZ.png	22:23
basedmars	I think it would be helpful if you explain it step by step for every instruction k1l_ . He mention he's raw green in linux before	22:23
backbox	I	22:23
backbox	HI	22:23
k1l_	HexaChop: i linked you a howto to one time test it. i know that method is resetting since that is the idea of "one time testing"	22:23
HexaChop	lasersaber, yes, but without the blue dots.	22:23
backbox	HI	22:23
backbox	NEGA	22:23
SierraKomodo	MonkeyDust: Is it normal to be flooding terminal with random characters when I do that	22:23
MonkeyDust	SierraKomodo use this page http://paste.ubuntu.com/	22:24
HexaChop	lasersaber, only when hitting shift though.	22:24
k1l_	marchelly: hmm, i am not a init specialists.	22:24
HexaChop	k1l_, why am I getting loading dots and black strip underneath, everything else is black background.	22:25
HexaChop	k1l_, why am I getting loading dots and black strip underneath, everything else is black background.	22:25
basedmars	Could you post a picture of it HexaChop for reference	22:25
marchelly	k1l_, Okay, I'm adding hook to vsftpd.conf as the last line to run sshd -D	22:25
lasersaber	HexaChop, try selecting the recovery mode option	22:25
HexaChop	basedmars, not really, I would need to reboot again	22:26
profetix	Hey anyone here wanna help me with a mini-series I'm starting, "The Linux NOOB and a GURU"?	22:26
marchelly	k1l, rebooted the server and now even ftp is not working (server pingable!)	22:26
HexaChop	lasersaber and reason for that is?	22:26
marchelly	that's nice ))	22:26
MonkeyDust	profetix that's for #ubuntu-offtopic	22:26
profetix	Yeah, no one ever responds there	22:26
k1l	HexaChop: video driver/card issues	22:26
Speiros	profetix If you have one called "The Linux NOOB who doesn't learn and a GURU", I might be able to play the noob:?	22:26
HexaChop	lasersaber, basedmars and others, you are very supportive, I like it.	22:27
HexaChop	k1l, driver is installed, I have 2x ASUS STRIX 1070 GPUs.	22:27
Speiros	lol	22:27
k1l	HexaChop: i still dont know what kernel modes you have and tested now.	22:27
profetix	Hah! I was looking to be the noob but happy to share that role haha	22:27
HexaChop	k1l, shouldn't you be k1l_?	22:27
lasersaber	HexaChop, so u can boot into ubunt	22:27
profetix	It kinda is related to support ;0)	22:27
k1l	tekeli-li: the majority thinks that pc speaker is annoying. so it was turned off by default	22:28
HexaChop	lasersaber I am in ubuntu now	22:28
SierraKomodo	MonkeyDust: It gave 72.1 MB of output to a textfile when I ran cat > ~/Documents/cat.txt, said file is refusing to open in gedit	22:28
lasersaber	HexaChop, can open a terminal?	22:28
Speiros	profetix It sounds good mate. Best wishes with it, but I couldn't really help:)	22:28
HexaChop	lasersaber, yes.	22:28
lasersaber	can you*	22:28
lasersaber	ok	22:28
MonkeyDust	SierraKomodo it's not a bash script?	22:28
MonkeyDust	SierraKomodo that was retorical	22:29
lasersaber	HexaChop, is the system hooked to the internet?	22:29
SierraKomodo	It's supposed to be a executable that I can't get to run at all	22:29
SierraKomodo	Came directly from here: http://meetfranz.com/	22:29
lasersaber	connected*	22:29
HexaChop	lasersaber, I am talking to you through ubuntu.	22:29
basedmars	I used franz too SierraKomodo . Open it is as easy as double clicking	22:30
lasersaber	have you tried in terminal? sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade	22:30
SierraKomodo	basedmars: Nothing happens when I double click.	22:30
basedmars	Does it have executable permission SierraKomodo ?	22:30
HexaChop	lasersaber, yes, a billion times already	22:31
SierraKomodo	basedmars: Yes.	22:31
basedmars	What about the filesize. 67mb SierraKomodo ?	22:31
lasersaber	HexaChop, ok, have you rebooted since the update and upgrade?	22:31
SierraKomodo	basedmars: 72.1 MB	22:32
HexaChop	lasersaber I upsated and upgraded a while back.	22:32
lasersaber	HexaChop, ok	22:32
SierraKomodo	The archive is version 4.04	22:32
HexaChop	lasersaber, updated*	22:32
SierraKomodo	4.0.4*	22:32
lasersaber	HexaChop, hmmm i dont know then :-/	22:33
HexaChop	k1l_, u there?	22:33
HexaChop	k1l, u there?	22:33
basedmars	Yes mine is 4.0.4 too SierraKomodo . Franz is 1.3.1 version	22:33
lasersaber	HexaChop, maybe u can share your screen so we can have a better look	22:35
k1l	HexaChop: yes	22:35
basedmars	Can you paste sha256 of the packages SierraKomodo . 'sha256sum Franz-linux-x64-4.0.4.tgz'	22:35
basedmars	Mine is 65e63c9aa71c46f391ce5b62bca0b77dcae59d0cef18691e39e4c5ec24a85e6b	22:35
HexaChop	lasersaber, share?	22:35
lasersaber	HexaChop, so we can see what you see	22:36
tekeli-li	k1l, Thank you for answering. Have a good day.	22:36
HexaChop	lasersaber tw type stuff?	22:36
lasersaber	so we can see what you're looking at	22:37
SierraKomodo	basedmars: Need to redownload the archive; I deleted it after extracting	22:37
basedmars	Well we could compare sha256 of the franz executalble	22:38
HexaChop	lasersaber, share screen while booting is not possible I believe.	22:38
lasersaber	HexaChop, do u have a smartphone?	22:38
basedmars	SierraKomodo, b699e162ee1bcb6a1b24a05d31a5f154b61681ae513e7fed59cc2a07cfa4b78f Franz	22:38
HexaChop	lasersaber, you won't believe this but no, it broke, sadly.	22:38
HexaChop	lasersaber I do have a tablet without a camera.	22:39
lasersaber	lol	22:39
lasersaber	ok	22:39
SierraKomodo	basedmars: Well, that's definitely not the same for the Franz file itself	22:39
basedmars	Hmm. Is there a version file in the franz directory SierraKomodo ? If so what is the version. Mine is 1.3.1	22:39
lasersaber	HexaChop, no other device with a camera around?	22:40
HexaChop	lasersaber not really	22:40
SierraKomodo	basedmars: 1.3.1. The archive finished redownloading, I'll re-extract it	22:40
HexaChop	lasersaber, I could however take a photo of the booting screen, I don't like calling random ppl for security reasons, to be honest.	22:41
SierraKomodo	basedmars: Out of curiousity, do you have the 32-bit or 64-bit version	22:41
lasersaber	HexaChop, i was going to say to use www.appear.in :-/	22:41
basedmars	forgot about them. I have 64 bit version one SierraKomodo	22:42
HexaChop	lasersaber, + it's midnight	22:42
royal_screwup21	Hey guys!	22:42
SierraKomodo	basedmars: Well, 64-bit's what I told it to download, but the archive itself that the website gave me is 'Franz-linux-ia32-4.0.4'	22:42
royal_screwup21	I'm looking for something like quicktime recording on linux. Any ideas?	22:42
SierraKomodo	Which might be my issue	22:43
HexaChop	lasersaber, I can describe how my boot screen looks like...	22:43
lasersaber	royal_screwup21, http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux_software_equivalent_to_Windows_software	22:43
basedmars	Yes, i suspect that could be it. Let me try grab the link	22:43
lasersaber	HexaChop, hopefully someone will be able to help you	22:44
HexaChop	lasersaber I hope you are not too offended that I rather not love-chat?	22:44
lasersaber	live*	22:44
HexaChop	lasersaber live* LOL	22:44
lasersaber	lol	22:44
royal_screwup21	lasersaber lol it's not there!	22:44
basedmars	SierraKomodo, this github page will sort you up https://github.com/meetfranz/franz-app/releases	22:44
lasersaber	just need to see what is happening, no need to video chat or even show your face etc	22:45
HexaChop	lasersaber, would you like to continiue to solve my issue?	22:45
papabose	I am upgrading to 16.04, want to use btrfs for /home partition on SATA harddisk, is it safe ?	22:46
lasersaber	royal_screwup21, ok	22:46
Jordan_U	royal_screwup21: What do you use quicktime recording for?	22:46
royal_screwup21	Jordinary: I basically want to make a youtube video	22:46
tatertots	HexaChop: looks like you made some progress and actually got a OS to install to hard disk, good job.	22:46
royal_screwup21	plus, I haven't used anything like quicktime bfore, so I want to tryout something new	22:47
HexaChop	tatertots, thank you, mate :)	22:47
Jordan_U	royal_screwup21: So you want a video editor, correct?	22:47
lasersaber	HexaChop, i would describe your issue again to the channel in case others missed it	22:47
Speiros	royal_screwup21 There is also openshot video editor.	22:47
HexaChop	lasersaber do you what is the issu enow yourselfl mate?	22:47
royal_screwup21	Jordinary: Basically, yeah	22:47
basedmars	btrfs is generally safe papabose . However ext4 is tried and tested filesystem and highly stable.	22:48
Jordinary	Nice slip up royal_screwup21, you meant Jordan_U :)	22:48
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royal_screwup21	Jordan_U aw, sorry :P	22:49
Speiros	royal_screwup21, I use openshot for making my music videos (although not many are out to be seen as I took most down:))	22:49
Jordan_U	royal_screwup21: http://askubuntu.com/questions/5911/video-editing-software-options	22:49
lasersaber	at this point i forgot lol	22:49
papabose	basedmars: Thanks! I want to try ZFS and btrfs, may be on a external hardrive then!	22:49
HexaChop	lasersaber, just to remind you, I would like to ask you to re-post it on the channel, would be highly appreciated, mate, I need to fix boot loading screen.	22:49
royal_screwup21	thanks Speiros!	22:50
HexaChop	lasersaber (it is midnight, my brain is malfunctioning, I was refering to tatertots...)	22:50
lasersaber	sorry, bbl	22:50
Speiros	royal_screwup21, np mate. It has less glitches than pitivi, but remember to save each step of the way.	22:50
HexaChop	Speiros, could you re-post my issue, mate?	22:51
Timvde	I'm not sure what could have possibly gone wrong, but I'm on a server here where /etc/apt/sources.list does not exist. Is there any other fix than just looking for the file on another pc and copying it over?	22:51
Speiros	HexaChop, Okay.	22:51
HexaChop	Speiros, thanks a huge bunch. :)	22:51
Jordan_U	Timvde: I'm wondering what other critical files might be missing. Please pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a".	22:52
Timvde	Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23767255/	22:52
royal_screwup21	I typed in sudo apt update and I got this shit:	22:52
HexaChop	royal_screwup21, no swearing, please, mate.	22:53
ikonia	royal_screwup21: don't swear please	22:53
HexaChop	ikonia and ioria, are you sisters or something? :D	22:53
royal_screwup21	(Code: 0) There was an error with TheP(aste)B.in!	22:53
Speiros	Hexa Chop (one word) has just uploaded Ubuntu 16.4, which are on the same computer as his windows 10. He has them on separate drives, and they worked well. When swapping, he plugged in some other hardware, and since unplugging it, has been left with a blank purple screen on load up.	22:53
Speiros	HexaChop, Is that about right?	22:53
Speiros	royal_screwup21, It looks like you've put a command on there using Pastebin.	22:54
Speiros	royal_screwup21, Rather, using the words "pastebin" somehow.	22:54
HexaChop	Speiros, yeah, you could say except I am getting loading balls without any logo and getting purple strip and the background is black (situation changed, mate, but good enough. Thanks! :))	22:54
Gamemako	Well, guess it's time to ask again. Got a 32-bit EFI issue. Can only boot via boot stick -> grub menu. Have installed grub-efi-ia32 and all, but no dice. Boot goes past EFI boot and straight to legacy/BIOS, hits grub-rescue because i386-pc is not present (i386-efi is, but can't boot through it). efibootmgr -v shows some odd structures I would not expect, namely a whole lot of periods. Any ideas on what causes the periods, o	22:55
royal_screwup21	https://thepasteb.in/p/NxhVD2gg22YiN	22:56
royal_screwup21	I typed in sudo apt update and I got this^	22:56
royal_screwup21	what does it mean?	22:56
HexaChop	Speiros, I got invalid core dump error...	22:56
HexaChop	Speiros, what is going on?	22:57
Gamemako	(Oddly, the log shows my previous comment truncated, but the client here does not. Is that a log quirk, or are you all seeing a truncated message as well?)	22:57
k1l	royal_screwup21: do you have any other program running that uses the ubuntu repos?	22:57
k1l	royal_screwup21: like software center or the updater etc	22:58
Timvde	Jordan_U: I... Can't believe this. I used my root powers to grep .bash_history and .zsh_history files, and a (former, luckily) admin actually executed "sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list" O.o	22:58
papabose	royal_screwup21: I think Ubuntu Updater is running, it holds the lock on the sources list	22:58
royal_screwup21	k1l: Well I think I accidentally downloaded a software twice	22:58
Timvde	Jordan_U: Looking through his other history now to see if there are other places where he screwed up.	22:58
royal_screwup21	k1l: should I reboot?	22:59
HexaChop	OK, going to bed, everyone, cya tomorrow, I hope to fix this issue on the 3rd day of troubleshooting...	22:59
Bashing-om	royal_screwup21: Hint: " is another process using it? " .. make sure no other instance of a package manager is currently open .	22:59
k1l	royal_screwup21: no. that error you showed means: there is another program runnin which blocks the usage of the package system to not make a mess when 2 programs change things there.	22:59
k1l	royal_screwup21: its one at a time, for the package system.	22:59
Speiros	HexaChop, I don't know about core dumps.	22:59
royal_screwup21	k1l: So what should I do now?	23:00
k1l	royal_screwup21: do you have any other programs running like software center, updater, or other apt processes?	23:00
royal_screwup21	oh lol I tried running the command again, and it worked	23:00
Jordan_U	Gamemako: Your message was truncated at ", o".	23:01
Gamemako	Jordan_U: Thank you, wasn't sure since Pidgin seems to assume the whole message went through. Used to old mIRC which stopped me from typing at the correct point.	23:03
tomreyn	Gamemako: you could use hexchat, it's more like mirc, and it auto wraps your messages so they dont get cut off.	23:04
royal_screwup21	guys, what's the tl;dr of the significance of a DE?	23:05
papabose	I used UEFI, but installer failed to download GRUB2, and crashed.	23:05
Speiros	royal_screwup21, What is tl;dr?	23:06
k1l	royal_screwup21: service.	23:06
Gamemako	Speiros: too long; didn't read -- he is requesting a short version or gist answer	23:07
Speiros	Gamemako, Ah, thanks:)	23:07
papabose	http://imgbox.com/MRjv6r0d	23:08
reisio	royal_screwup21: DE: desktop environment	23:09
reisio	royal_screwup21: the applications, principally GUI applications, which make up as a whole what satisfies your "desktop" paradigm	23:10
reisio	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_metaphor	23:12
Speiros	This is weird. I've been up for over 24 hours now, and I'm not tired. I hope I sleep well tonight (it's 10am here)	23:12
reisio	24 isn't too extreme	23:12
Speiros	reisio, I go back to work next week, so I need to get a routine going. I'm concerned about that.	23:13
royal_screwup21	I just typed in df -h and I see a bunch of words with their respective parameters. What are the most important things I should know?	23:13
reisio	it might be worthwhile to take a little nap in the afternoon, though, so you can be tired for ordinary sleepy time in the evening, instead of your body forcing you to sleep very early and you waking up in the middle of tomorrow night	23:13
reisio	Speiros: exactly	23:13
basedmars	A true 24 hour ubuntu support there Speiros . However I recommend sleep mate	23:13
reisio	royal_screwup21: on the right, 'Mounted on', '/' is the most important	23:14
reisio	royal_screwup21: and possibly /home, if you have a separate /home	23:14
Speiros	I did that yesterday...or whatever it's called before now, and slept for about 4-6 hours, which isn't bad.	23:14
reisio	royal_screwup21: then look at the 'Avail' (available) column	23:14
Speiros	basedmars, lol so it seems man:)	23:14
royal_screwup21	thanks reisio!	23:15
Speiros	It was 24 about 6am, so probably 28 now. I'll have another cuppa tea and see what happens. In the words of Roger Daltrey, "at least I'll get my washing done".	23:16
royal_screwup21	reisio what's the difference between /dev/sda6 and /dev/sda1	23:16
reisio	Speiros: down a cup of tea in the afternoon and take a nap with a timer	23:16
the_count	Hello, I recently installed KDE Plasma to see how I liked it, which I decided I did not. After removing it, occasionally when Ubuntu Starts up, Unity is themed like KDE, whited out and with KDE style icons. When it does this, a message pops up about an error in /usr/lib/unity-settings-daemon/unity-settings-daemon. Does anyone have any ideas?	23:16
reisio	Speiros: then if your body gets tired as it should, you will be able to put off sleeping till 9 or 10pm when it'll be more convenient	23:16
royal_screwup21	the former has a higher space availability, if that helps	23:16
Speiros	royal_screwup21, They are your partitions mate.	23:17
reisio	royal_screwup21: sda represents the first storage device, the numbers represent partitions on that device	23:17
Speiros	reisio Yeah, hopefully.	23:17
royal_screwup21	tmpf --> temporary files?	23:17
reisio	royal_screwup21: if they don't have FS labels, you can't really know their contents/purpose without looking at their mount points & examining their data, or /etc/fstab might say	23:17
reisio	royal_screwup21: tmpfs?	23:17
royal_screwup21	yeah I see tmpfs too under "filesystem"	23:18
reisio	royal_screwup21: that's a particular type of filesystem, probably for your /dev	23:18
reisio	or, rather for /run or /media	23:18
reisio	whoops	23:18
Bashing-om	the_count: Maybe: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ' .	23:20
brewmaster_	so	23:21
quasi6	does anyone have suggestions for a file tagging software?	23:22
khazakar	Hi all!	23:22
brewmaster_	experience with maipu switch?	23:22
Speiros	Hi khazakar	23:22
the_count	Bashing-om: I've done the first one there already. Is there any way to know if reconfiguring lightdm worked, besides waiting it out	23:22
quasi6	Something that I can use to change flac tags in batch	23:22
royal_screwup21	reisio is there a command that will tell me how much overall space I have left?	23:23
khazakar	I have a little problem with my Ubuntu 16.04 - I cannot sign file using gpg,It tells me that I don't have private key,but I generated it using password and keys app.	23:23
reisio	royal_screwup21: yes, but it'll depend on how your system is setup	23:23
royal_screwup21	shoot the command	23:24
k1l	royal_screwup21: "df -h"	23:24
reisio	royal_screwup21: do you have a separate /home partition?	23:24
royal_screwup21	reisio um, nope	23:24
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Bashing-om	theNope. seeing is what is is all that ine can do ,, now if still with issues run the above again and add ' sudo update-initramfs -u ' to rebuild the kernel image .	23:24
reisio	royal_screwup21: df -h \| egrep '\/$' \| awk '{ print $4 }'	23:25
royal_screwup21	k1l: I'm not really looking for chunks of informations telling me there's x GB for this partition, y GB for the other, and so on. I basically want something that'll give me a bigger picture	23:25
quasi6	why is there a 2 year (at least) old bug in thunar that causes it to crash when renaming a file>	23:25
k1l	royal_screwup21: i still dont know what your issue is at all.	23:25
royal_screwup21	reisio Nice!	23:25
khazakar	What's more,when I use command gpg --list-keys myemailthere,It tells me that I don't have public key,but It's generated using password and keys app,too :D	23:26
k1l	royal_screwup21: if you show the output of "df -h" in a pastebin people could tell you what lines to look at so you know for the future	23:26
gubernator	Hi, my headphones stopped working, and I ruled out a hardware problem (no problem in Windows on same machine). I hadn't changed anything that I know of to cause this. Ubuntu 16.10, Dell XPS 13 9350. The speakers do work. I solved this the other night by changing some pulseaudio settings as per https://askubuntu.com/questions/132440/headphone-jack-not-working. The solution was only temporary as the problem is back, even though	23:27
gubernator	the settings remain changed per the linked instructions. A user in #pulseaudio suggested it could be a kernel bug. Any advice?	23:27
gubernator	I have since removed pulseaudio to no avail.	23:27
royal_screwup21	k1l: I was looking for the amount of space left on my machine. I wanted to know the overall picture, not the space left on partitions	23:28
reisio	royal_screwup21: echo $(df -h \| egrep '\/$' \| awk '{ print $5 }') full	23:28
royal_screwup21	https://thepasteb.in/p/3lh76OJOzpGc1	23:28
royal_screwup21	here's my df -h. What are the important things I should know?	23:29
reisio	royal_screwup21: the fourth line, for sda6, is virtually all you will regularly care about	23:29
reisio	royal_screwup21: for /, which is your root FS mount point	23:29
brewmaster_	exit	23:29
k1l	royal_screwup21: since you dont have a seperate /home partition, the line with "mounted on : /" is the line to look at.	23:29
reisio	you have 380G left, 8% used (or 100-8=92% free)	23:30
royal_screwup21	reisio Hmm, awesome!	23:30
k1l	royal_screwup21: the udev and tmpfs lines are just virtual and not real partitions. /dev/sda1 is just the efi partition needed for the bootloader.	23:30
reisio	more than I have left :p	23:31
royal_screwup21	k1l: Thanks!	23:31
Gamemako	Well, this was expected. boot-info reports nothing at all for boot information, not even remarking that it has no boot. Time for some aspirin, I think. #ubuntu-blogs	23:36
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tatertots	gubernator: hi	23:44
papabose	#http://imgbox.com/MRjv6r0d	23:46
Lunar_La1p	I've just upgraded 14.04-->16.04, and my ZFS pools are no longer imported on boot. I can manually do a zpool import, but this isn't wholly useful as my /home partition is on the ZFS...	23:47
reisio	papabose: installer? for what?	23:47
papabose	reisio: Installer for the OS, it failed to download GRUB for some reason. I reinstalled OS but did not use UEFI this time. That worked.	23:48
k1l	Lunar_La1p: is zfsutils-linux package installed?	23:51
Lunar_La1p	k1l: I manually installed it, but I'm now manually removing the old packages, removing the ppa, re-installing the zfsutils-linux package, and seeing if that works.	23:52
Lunar_La1p	(just to ensure no conflicts/problems there)	23:53
k1l	Lunar_La1p: yes, maybe the PPA or old packages interfer. since 16.04 got native zfs support now it should just mmount zfs tanks if it sees them	23:53
Lunar_La1p	OK, so, that works mostly. It means that everything happens automatically without me manually loadeing kernel modules etc. However, when zfs goes to mount the relevant pool at /home, it fails because /home already exists.	23:59
Lunar_La1p	Hmm, no, not that it already exists, but htat it is not empty.,	23:59

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