[00:00] <Speiros> Goodnight mate:)
[00:00] <basedmars> Goodnight
[00:00] <Reddiy98i> Hi folks.
[00:00] <Reddiy98i> How do I install updates from UNTRUSTED sources?
[00:00] <Reddiy98i> It won't let me..
[00:00] <k1l_> Reddiy98i: what is the error? put it into paste.ubuntu.com please
[00:01] <Speiros> Hi Reddiy98i:)
[00:01] <Reddiy98i> k1l_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23761237/
[00:01] <Reddiy98i> When I click OK it doens't do anything.
[00:01] <Reddiy98i> I want to install the packages.
[00:01] <Reddiy98i> There's a settings tab to the left I must have to click and configure.
[00:02] <k1l_> Reddiy98i: can you use apt on terminal? "sudo apt update" and then "sudo apt install <packagename>"? and show that on paste.ubuntu.com? (close the software center first)
[00:03] <k1l_> Reddiy98i: or what packages are we talking about? do you have .deb pacakges there?
[00:03] <Reddiy98i> It's from the Software Update.
[00:03] <Reddiy98i> I got these untrusted package updates since I updated my Intel drivers.
[00:04] <Reddiy98i> This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources.
[00:04] <Reddiy98i> Then I click OK and nothing updates.
[00:04] <Dreaman> no key
[00:04] <Reddiy98i> But there's a Settings... option I can click
[00:05] <Reddiy98i> I must need to config that to let me install untrusted updates
[00:05] <k1l_> Reddiy98i: can you please use the terminal as i asked you? that gives better context and errormessages
[00:05] <Reddiy98i> do you know how I do that?
[00:05] <Reddiy98i> OK, one moment.
[00:05] <Speiros> Charles1st No, I don't believe there ever was a movie about you.
[00:05] <basedmars> ddquestion, if you mean bit by bit using the bs and count flag then no. Cat is faster but I wouldn't trust it to make a swapfile for example. Dd is more accurate based on various resources on the net.
[00:06] <Reddiy98i> k1l_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23761250/
[00:06] <Speiros> Dreaman What key mate?  I presume you don't mean you looked under the mat?
[00:07] <Speiros> Sorry, that charles1st comment was for a different room:D
[00:07] <Reddiy98i> k1l_, Can you figure out what I am to do?
[00:07] <Reddiy98i> Wow.
[00:07] <Reddiy98i> I just typed xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"
[00:08] <Dreaman> Reddiy98i  parameters your mashine
[00:08] <Reddiy98i> And the improvement was dramatic.
[00:08] <Reddiy98i> That means my RGB FULL is being reset every time I reboot.
[00:08] <k1l_> Reddiy98i: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 56A3DEF863961D39
[00:09] <Phanes> can this be trimmed down any further?  hoping to build a little tool that will list displays for users like the one we saw earlier: http://paste.silogroup.org/oluxuhagiz.rb
[00:09] <Reddiy98i> k1l_, Fantastic.
[00:10] <Reddiy98i> You solved it. Now I am fully upgraded/updated.
[00:10] <Reddiy98i> k1l_, How do I get the RGB = FULL  to stick so it doesn't reset to limited every time I reboot?
[00:10] <Reddiy98i> How do I access my Intel graphics GPU/
[00:10] <Reddiy98i> ?
[00:10] <Speiros> Good work k1l_:)
[00:12] <k1l_> Reddiy98i: put that into a /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ file
[00:12] <Reddiy98i> xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"
[00:12] <Reddiy98i> This is what I type to make my RGB = FULL, so this is what needs to go in there.
[00:12] <Phanes> dont use Xsession.d
[00:13] <Phanes> that isn't what that's for
[00:13] <Phanes> that's for launching applications with X
[00:13] <Speiros> I hate it when it's really late on a Saturday night, and a beer sounds good, and then you realise you don't have a  Pubkey.
[00:13] <k1l_> Reddiy98i: yes, but use fullpath for xrandr. so use "/usr/bin/xrandr" there
[00:13] <Phanes> what you're looking for is Xorg configuration
[00:14] <Phanes> you need to build a Xorg.conf to do that right
[00:14] <akik> Phanes: that's exactly what xrandr is
[00:14] <Phanes> yes but thats not where you call it.  xrandr is not for persistent changes
[00:14] <akik> Phanes: you shouldn't tell people not to use it
[00:14] <gptssddual> Hi, booted from a pendrive, Ubuntu 16.04.1 64. I want to install beside my existing Win10 on a gpt fmt SSD
[00:14] <Phanes> i should because i know their use cases
[00:14] <Reddiy98i> So what is the best way to program a persistent change?
[00:15] <gptssddual> I get the warning in gparted: “physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512”
[00:15] <Phanes> Xsession.d is for 'launch this application in my unique unsupported use case', Xorg.conf is where you make persistent changes like that
[00:15] <akik> Phanes: so how do you configure xorg.conf snippet for that xrandr command?
[00:15] <Phanes> newer Xorg won't have a Xorg.conf as they want to autodetect stuff, so you'll want to create the file
[00:16] <Phanes> akik, you can use mine as a template: http://paste.silogroup.org/idayegapoz.vbs
[00:16] <Reddiy98i> Phanes, So what shall I do?
[00:17] <Phanes> Reddiy98i, see above
[00:17] <Reddiy98i> Phanes, Your link? If I use that I'm going to have some probs.
[00:17] <Reddiy98i> You have nVidia graphics, for one. I have Intel.
[00:17] <Phanes> right you'll want to edit it for your display configuration
[00:17] <akik> Phanes: i don't have that problem. i'm using Xsession.d
[00:17] <Phanes> the names and resolution and placement is what you'd care about
[00:18] <k1l_> Phanes: this specific setting cant be set in xorg.conf. so your advise doesnt help.
[00:18] <k1l_> Reddiy98i: use my method. it wont hurt but will run that command on every gui login.
[00:18] <Phanes> there is not a setting that xrandr has that xorg does not have.
[00:18] <gptssddual> I need help installing ubuntu 16.0.4.1 on a gpt SSD
[00:19] <Phanes> k1l_, not accurate
[00:19] <Dreaman> gptssddual why not 16.10
[00:19] <Speiros> gptssddual Hello mate:)  Someone will be able to help you shortly.
[00:19] <serdar> hello
[00:19] <Reddiy98i> k1l_, /usr/bin/xrandr
[00:19] <Reddiy98i> What will using this full path accomplish vs xrandr?
[00:19] <k1l_> Phanes: i am happy if you look up that setting and how to get it work in xorg.conf. but so long you cant prove it i named a working solution without sideeffects.
[00:20] <gptssddual> Dreaman, because I need a stable system, I chose LTS
[00:20] <serdar> my X is loading the wrong libglx and wrong nvidia_drv, how can I change this_
[00:20] <Reddiy98i> Like this? /usr/bin/xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"
[00:20] <Phanes> k1l_, ill start looking around for it, do you have his hardware profile
[00:20] <gptssddual> Speiros, thanks for the kind words :-)
[00:20] <Reddiy98i> That doesn't do anything.
[00:20] <k1l_> Reddiy98i: in scripts its better to go with fullpath and not rely on shortened paths.
[00:20] <Dreaman> gptssddual  ssd driver in 16.04
[00:20] <Reddiy98i> k1l_, How come when I put that in the terminal it does nothing?
[00:21] <Reddiy98i> WHen I use this it works: xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"
[00:21] <Dreaman> not see a hdd ssd
[00:21] <Dreaman> :)
[00:21] <basedmars> Is it already in mbr?
[00:21] <Phanes> k1l_, this is a driver option so it's already a little flaky but let's try this first: http://paste.silogroup.org/odaxubosar.vbs
[00:21] <gptssddual> Dreaman, oh, I see the SSD alright, but I get an ominous warning in gparted: “physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512
[00:21] <Dreaman> my laptop work
[00:22] <k1l_> Reddiy98i: "/usr/bin/xrandr --version" does this work?
[00:22] <Dreaman> ssd is win 10 and 1 tb of hdd 100 gb is ubuntu
[00:22] <serdar> can I remove this without issues? xserver-xorg-core
[00:22] <Reddiy98i> k1l_, Yes.
[00:22] <Reddiy98i> xrandr program version       1.5.0
[00:22] <Reddiy98i> Server reports RandR version 1.5
[00:22] <basedmars> press ignore gptssddual
[00:22] <Speiros> gptssddual All good mate.  Hopefully your issue will be resolved.
[00:22] <nicomachus> serdar: no.
[00:22] <Phanes> ehm, actually that should go in the Device section
[00:22] <k1l_> Reddiy98i: so does the other command. but it doesnt change something since its already changed
[00:23] <Reddiy98i> k1l_, You're right.
[00:23] <Reddiy98i> It only works if the change can be made. if it's already changed it does nothing.
[00:23] <Reddiy98i> Interesting.
[00:23] <serdar> darn
[00:23] <Reddiy98i> OK, so I need to put this in the persistent file: /usr/bin/xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"
[00:23] <Reddiy98i> Which file?
[00:23] <serdar> it provides a libglx.so which is used by xorg
[00:24] <gptssddual> basedmars, do you know the cause for that warning? I had a long install time installing two other OS'es (one of which is Windows) on the SSD so I don; t want to waste my work, that's why :-)
[00:24] <serdar> instead it should load this /usr/lib/nvidia-375/xorg/libglx.so
[00:24] <k1l_> Reddiy98i: create a new on in the named folder. like 41-fullrgb
[00:25] <Reddiy98i> k1l_, in etc X11 Xsession.d?
[00:25] <basedmars> I use a gpt which converted from mbr gptssddual . That could be the cause of it
[00:25] <gptssddual> basedmars, If I know know the cause of the warning and *why* I can ignore it, I would be reassured.
[00:25] <Reddiy98i> k1l_, Do you know why full RGB is not enabled by default?
[00:25] <k1l_> gptssddual: that warning could be shown, since the ubuntu-live-usb has a different sector size on the usb and on the "burned" .iso file used
[00:26] <k1l_> Reddiy98i: yes in that folder.
[00:26] <k1l_> Reddiy98i: i dont know. maybe your monitor is seen as tv, which do have that settings
[00:26] <Reddiy98i> k1l_, Why do you say call it 41-fullrbg?
[00:26] <Reddiy98i> What's the 41 for?
[00:27] <k1l_> Reddiy98i: the .d folder is run through by a script which starts the files with commands after their numbering.
[00:27] <k1l_> Reddiy98i: same goes for grub.d folder. or motd.d folders etc.
[00:27] <basedmars> That warning is a must I think, since we're dealing with hard disk partition table and the partition itself here. It could lead to data loss if done uncorrectly, hence warning are useful
[00:27] <gptssddual> k1l_, ah, so gparted would stick wth the size reported by the ISO and not overwrite things it should not? Currently when I lookup my NFS partitions in gfdisk, they all show up as type 83 linux, with misaligned cylinders.
[00:28] <gptssddual> ^ NFS -> NTFS
[00:28] <Reddiy98i> k1l_, I'm in that folder now and it won't let me create a new document.
[00:28] <Reddiy98i> Why is that?
[00:28] <gptssddual> k1l_, that made me a bit worried to press on and potentially ruin the present installs...
[00:29] <Phanes> k1l_, for future reference: https://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/man/man4/intel.4.html | it may be called "LVDS24Bit" instead of "Broadcast RGB" as a device section item though, i can't test without his hardware
[00:29] <k1l_> Reddiy98i: since its system folders you need admin permissions. use nano: "sudo nano /etc/X11/Xsession.d/41-fullrgb"  then paste it into nano. then press ctrl+o for saving, and then ctrl+x for leaving
[00:30] <Reddiy98i> k1l_, What is your role on the Ubuntu team?
[00:31] <Reddiy98i> k1l_, Phanes was saying you had something wrong.
[00:31] <k1l_> Reddiy98i: just supporter and irc operator.
[00:31] <gptssddual> basedmars, thank you for the explanation.
[00:32] <Dreaman> k1l_  nervious and lame :)
[00:32] <Phanes> i wouldn't call it wrong, just that Xsession.d is not intended for driver option calls from xrandr.  This will still work but can become a slippery slope.  I think the link does a better job explaining the options.
[00:32] <Reddiy98i> Phanes, Which link?
[00:32] <Phanes> but what you've been given will absolutely work
[00:32] <Reddiy98i> Phanes, What is your role on the Ubuntu team?
[00:32] <Speiros> Dreaman Seems to be getting a lot accomplished, from where I'm viewing.
[00:32] <Phanes> Reddiy98i, dedicated troll and eater of thinly sliced brisket.
[00:32]  * Phanes tips hat
[00:33] <Dreaman> Speiros but my mashines work
[00:33] <Reddiy98i> I'd prefer taking advice from a team memberf.
[00:33] <Phanes> lol
[00:33] <basedmars> yeah actually I'm answering question without answering question gptssddual . I'm a noob so I try guesswork and got humbled by real a real expertise answer. I hope someone could help you with this.
[00:33] <bivo> Does anyone here know how to patch NES roms to play homebrew mods? The mods are .ips files
[00:33] <Dreaman> 1 hour videocard
[00:34] <Dreaman> problems
[00:34] <Speiros> Dreaman Yes, that may be the case, yet apparently so does k1l_'s machine, and he/she is helping others with theirs.
[00:34] <gptssddual> basedmars, I hope so too, since the
[00:34] <Dreaman> and  +q some times
[00:34] <Dreaman> :)
[00:35] <Dreaman> Reddiy98i  work or not this intel video card
[00:35] <gptssddual> basedmars, I hope so too. Until know I feel uneasy about going ahead with the install. I am using Linux since 1997 and I never got a warning like this.
[00:36] <Reddiy98i> Dreaman, It's an Intel video card, yes.
[00:36] <Reddiy98i> Dreaman, Why?
[00:36] <Dreaman> my is but in a i7 processor
[00:36] <gptssddual> basedmars, know -> now
[00:36] <Dreaman> and nvidia video dual
[00:36] <Dreaman> my laptop
[00:38] <Speiros> Dreaman I don't understand.  What does that mean?
[00:38] <k1l_> gptssddual: the warning is from the usb drive when opening gparted.
[00:39] <gptssddual> k1l_, so if I understand correctly the USB uses 2048 size blocks while the live kernel reports 512 byte blocks?
[00:39] <Speiros> 4x
[00:39] <gptssddual> or is that the other way around?
[00:40] <k1l_> gptssddual: no. the usb hardware got 512 sectors and you burned a iso on it with 2048 sectors on it. (or vice versa.)
[00:41] <k1l_> its just telling that you have a hardware vs Filesystem missmatch on some disk. but since that is a known issue with usb pendrives and new ubuntu isos you get that for the live usb itself, too
[00:42] <gptssddual> k1l_, ok, that makes sense. In that case I'll creat the soft-RAID1 on the twin HDD's and use my SSD for the /boot and /
[00:43] <Dreaman> chege the boot hdd
[00:43] <Dreaman> change
[00:44] <Dreaman> ssd and normal hdd
[00:44] <gptssddual> Dreaman, please elaborate, I don't get what you are trying to tell me.
[00:44] <Dreaman> ok
[00:45] <Rhombix> Hi. My computer died! Not sure if this is the right place but atm i'm running Memtest86+ and i need to know, when does it finish? How do i know when it's done?
[00:46] <gptssddual> Rhombix, you mean your computer crashed? If it were dead you would not be able to run Memtest, now would you?
[00:46] <Rhombix> It looks as if the test reached 100% and started again
[00:47] <Speiros> gptssddual I think Dreaman is saying that you don't necessarily have to have /boot as a separate partition.
[00:47] <Rhombix> gptssddual: it crashed on me, then crashed when i rebooted. i chose Memtest in the BIOS
[00:48] <gptssddual> Rhombix, did the "pass" parameter increment when it got to 100%? In that case the Memory would seem fine (at least on the first pass). Did you see any errors being reported?\
[00:48] <Phanes> is there a dedicated ubuntu for the pi or is raspbian "it"
[00:49] <gptssddual> Speiros, thank you for the translation ;-) I normally don' t use a separate /boot partition, sorry for the confusion, Dreaman
[00:50] <Speiros> :)
[00:50]  * Phanes has read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi but is unsure if this is ubuntu or an ubuntu-like flavor (are there things that are going to be missing)
[00:51] <k1l_> there is no ubuntu for the first pi since that arm chip is way too old. there are builds for rpi2 and rpi3
[00:51] <Phanes> if im reading right ill need to build out from a -server base image and then turn on hw accel in a custom xorg.conf?
[00:52] <CrackerJack> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23761422/
[00:52] <Speiros> Rhombix What's happening now?
[00:53] <Dreaman> interesting  work
[00:53] <Dreaman> intel driver an ssd
[00:53] <Rhombix> gptssddual: it's all ASCII, there are two bars ("Pass" and "Test") and Test completes every couple of minutes, Pass has reached 100% once but it started again and it's now on 46%. Memtest has been running for about an hour.
[00:53] <Rhombix> Speiros: same
[00:54] <gptssddual> Rhombix, sounds perfectly normal to me. Again, did you get any errors?
[00:55] <gptssddual> Phanes, which generation of RaspPI are you using?
[00:55] <Phanes> gptssddual, its a pi3
[00:55] <Phanes> gptssddual, most expensive alarm clock ever :)
[00:56] <gptssddual> Phanes, no worries then, as k1l_ already told you, go right ahead and install the Ubuntu for the PI3
[00:56] <Rhombix> gptssddual: there's a notice in the bottom half of the screen: Memory SPD Informations - it lists two things, one of them has the word 'Crucial' in it
[00:56] <Rhombix> actually, both
[00:57] <Phanes> gptssddual, im evaluating versus an existing raspbian install on it, thanks though
[00:57] <gptssddual> Panes, if it's an alarm clock, you are going for, you are probably better off using a simpler module, like the Arduino Nano.
[00:57] <Rhombix> Slot 0: 4096 MB DDR3-1600 - Crucial STxxxx etc
[00:57] <Phanes> not sure if arduino has the muscle to host a vnc server
[00:58]  * Phanes checks
[00:58] <gptssddual> Phanes, sorry for misspelling your nick there :-/
[00:58] <Speiros> lol
[00:58] <gptssddual> Phanes, probably not, forget what I had said then. That is some Alarm Clock you are going for.. Whoha.
[00:59] <Phanes> lol.  it'll fill multiple purposes throughout the house, least of which is a core module for a house-wide sound system, alarm clock, weather app, and ad-hoc desktop via vnc
[01:00] <Rhombix> This is important for me, because it's 1am here and the test has been running for ~70min. I want to know when I can go to sleep.
[01:00] <gptssddual> My old alarm clock had just two chips on it, some passives, a 4x7-segment display and a simple psu and that was your lot...
[01:01] <gptssddual> Rhombix, the test runs infinitely long if you haven't specified the number of passes it must complete.
[01:02] <Rhombix> What?
[01:02] <Rhombix> I just ran the test, there was no such dialogue
[01:02] <gptssddual> Rhombix, Crucial is probably the brand marked in the SPD.
[01:02] <Rhombix> oh
[01:02] <gptssddual> Rhombix, you do know what the SPD is, don't you?
[01:03] <Rhombix> gptssddual: it's a component, right? idk exactly
[01:04] <Rhombix> makes more sense though, given the wording around 'cruciat'.
[01:04] <Rhombix> 'crucial'
[01:04] <Speiros> Okay people.  Enjoy your days.  Sleep overdue by 24 hours.
[01:05] <gptssddual> Rhombix, it's a simple ROM containing some static data that identifies the memory module, such as CAS latency, access speed and the make of the chip, in your case, the chips have been branded "Crucial"
[01:05] <HomeSchoolDad> Hi All - noob here - My software center just stopped working.  I tried reinstalling sudo apt-get but no luck - any thoughts?
[01:05] <gptssddual> Speiros, sleep well :-) and thanks for the help!
[01:05] <Phanes> HomeSchoolDad, launch it from the terminal and use a pastebin to give us the output
[01:05] <Phanes> when it crashes
[01:06] <HomeSchoolDad> Phanes: ok stand by
[01:06] <gptssddual> HomeSchoolDad, you'll need sudo for that...
[01:06] <Rhombix> gptssddual: thanks for all the help. if it's completed once it's probably safe to turn off now.
[01:06] <Rhombix> good night :)
[01:06] <k1l_> HomeSchoolDad: what means "stopped working"?
[01:06] <gptssddual> Rhombix, good night :-)
[01:07] <HomeSchoolDad> Phanes: noob here - command line for running software center?
[01:07] <Phanes> no clue i live in a world of cold menacing terminals
[01:08] <HomeSchoolDad> k1l_: it will not launch from the gui
[01:08] <HomeSchoolDad> gptssddual: i have sudo
[01:09] <k1l_> HomeSchoolDad: doest it load at all?
[01:09] <k1l_> HomeSchoolDad: what ubuntu is it?
[01:09] <gptssddual> HomeSchoolDad, the same as Phanes really. I don't know the real name as binary...
[01:10] <Phanes> i think it's `software-center`
[01:10] <k1l_> HomeSchoolDad: open a terminal and run "software-center"
[01:10] <HomeSchoolDad> k1l_: no - 16.04
[01:10] <gptssddual> Ah, yes, that would make sense, so HomeSchoolDad, please run the following line: sudo software-center &
[01:11] <Phanes> detach is unnecessary
[01:11] <k1l_> gptssddual: no. dont run sudo with gui programs
[01:11] <Phanes> gksudo
[01:11] <HomeSchoolDad> gptssddual: it launched with "software-center"
[01:11] <gptssddual> k1l_, ah, yes gksudo, that you for the correction
[01:11] <gptssddual> that -> thank
[01:11] <k1l_> and it will ask for root permissions with udev. doesnt need to be started with root
[01:12] <gptssddual> k1l_, seems I need to learn a thing or two about GUI tools...
[01:12]  * Phanes eyeballs that posix/lsb spec
[01:13] <HomeSchoolDad> gptssddual: here is the paste bin : http://pastebin.com/U8tP8Pi1  but it DID launch this time
[01:14] <Phanes> woof, that gi error.
[01:14] <HomeSchoolDad> gptssddual: it looks like the 14.04 version
[01:14] <Phanes> HomeSchoolDad, have you done anything odd like remove python2 or try to move from py2 to py3
[01:14] <HomeSchoolDad> Phanes: nope
[01:15] <HomeSchoolDad> Phanes: i ran updates
[01:15] <k1l_> i dont see unusal errors there
[01:15] <Phanes> yeah wouldn't be fatal, but is there a branch on github i can fix those on while its in front of me
[01:16]  * Phanes gets his fork out
[01:17] <HomeSchoolDad> k1l_: it looks like the old version, but it seems to be running (shrug)
[01:17] <k1l_> HomeSchoolDad: does it work now with the launcher icon?
[01:17] <HomeSchoolDad> k1l_: stand by
[01:17] <gptssddual> HomeSchoolDad, odd that it exits with status 0, usually that means: no errors.
[01:18] <HomeSchoolDad> k1l_: it does NOT launch from the gui
[01:18]  * Phanes tries to remember if xdg-open would launch that .desktop file
[01:18] <HomeSchoolDad> k1l_: it pops right up from terminal
[01:19] <Phanes> it does
[01:19] <HomeSchoolDad> gptssddual: IDK - the gui is not working but it come right up form command line
[01:20] <Phanes> HomeSchoolDad, find out the path of the .desktop file the icon points to and then in the term just `xdg-open $that_path`
[01:20] <k1l_> HomeSchoolDad: can you try the "gnome-software" too?
[01:21] <HomeSchoolDad> k1l_: gmone-software does nothing
[01:21] <gptssddual> HomeSchoolDad, do you need to install an app in a hurry? In that case you could install synaptic and search for the app there...
[01:22] <HomeSchoolDad> gptssddual: i need cad for robotics team
[01:22] <gptssddual> HomeSchoolDad, synaptic is not as flashy as Software-Center, but it will get the job done.
[01:22] <k1l_> HomeSchoolDad: you could use "sudo apt install packagename" in the meantime
[01:22] <gptssddual> Also true, but the you'd need to know the package name first.
[01:23] <HomeSchoolDad> gptssddual: sudo apt-get synaptic  ?
[01:23] <Phanes> or uh, we could xdg-open the .desktop file the icon points to, ya know, like the gui does.
[01:23] <gptssddual> HomeSchoolDad, that's it
[01:23] <HomeSchoolDad> gptssddual: thanks!
[01:23] <Phanes> o_O
[01:24] <k1l_> since 16.04 the gnome-software is the new software-center
[01:24] <k1l_> HomeSchoolDad: make sure you dont have the typo you made before in "gnome-software"
[01:24] <gptssddual> Phanes, your solution is also good of course. I might be a bit biased against software center...
[01:25] <Phanes> oh, not a solution its a testing process
[01:25] <Phanes> it tells you what's broken
[01:25] <Dreaman> k1l_ and is a jocke
[01:26] <Phanes> not as low level as a strace but that's not needed for gtk apps usually
[01:26] <gptssddual> Phanes, yes, but what if HomeSchoolDad is in a hurry, than it's better to get to the goal quickly and skip the analysis until he has time ;-)
[01:26] <Phanes> gptssddual, O_o
[01:26] <HomeSchoolDad> k1l_: gnome-software does not repspond
[01:26]  * Phanes goes away to do something else
[01:27] <HomeSchoolDad> you guys are awesome
[01:27] <gptssddual> HomeSchoolDad, what kind of CAD program do you need?
[01:28] <generic> Hello worldQ
[01:28] <Dreaman> HomeSchoolDad  just terminal sudo su pass apt install synaptic open see the repos and install evrithing
[01:28] <HomeSchoolDad> g
[01:28] <k1l_> Dreaman: HomeSchoolDad dont do sudo su. that is not good advice.
[01:28] <Phanes> 'install everything' is generally frowned upon lol
[01:28] <HomeSchoolDad> generic: basic - i want to show some concepts to my team - i don't have a windows PC to run the FIRST software
[01:29] <HomeSchoolDad> k1l_: thanks
[01:29] <Dreaman> su not work not debian
[01:29] <gptssddual> HomeSchoolDad, try librecad
[01:29] <Dreaman> nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ su
[01:29] <Dreaman> Парола:
[01:29] <Dreaman> su: Грешка при удостоверяване
[01:29] <Dreaman> nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$
[01:30] <generic> Librecad
[01:30] <Dreaman> :)
[01:30] <HomeSchoolDad> gptssddual: that's what i  just grabbed!  thanks
[01:30] <generic> dreaman
[01:30] <gptssddual> HomeSchoolDad, np
[01:30] <generic> от българия ли си
[01:30] <Industrial> Hi!
[01:30] <Dreaman> dam
[01:30] <Industrial> I am "provisioning" my ubuntu install with some shell scripts. https://github.com/Industrial/linux-configfiles/blob/develop/install.sh
[01:30] <HomeSchoolDad> you guys were great - thank you all!
[01:30] <HomeSchoolDad> good night
[01:30] <Industrial> How do I change my user's shell to ZSH from a script?
[01:30] <Dreaman> generic варналийче сме
[01:30] <k1l_> Dreaman: using the root account is not enabled on ubuntu and ist not the ubuntu way of doing things. (other distros handle that differently, but this is #ubuntu )
[01:31] <generic> Dreaman try sudo -i
[01:31] <Phanes> Industrial, man chsh
[01:31] <gptssddual> ubottu, russian! | generic
[01:31] <tjsimmons> anyone have any idea why i can't run apt upgrade? keeps hanging at basically ever y package it tries to grab from archive.ubuntu.com
[01:31] <tjsimmons> running in an lxc container if it matters
[01:31] <Industrial> Phanes: I need to enter a password. I want to do this from a script.
[01:31] <Dreaman> generic work
[01:31] <generic> Cheerz
[01:31] <gptssddual> ru! | generic
[01:31] <Dreaman> tova ne go znaeh
[01:31] <Dreaman> nazdrave
[01:32] <generic> nazdrave bratko
[01:32] <k1l_> gptssddual: first the ! then the command.
[01:32] <generic> pitai ako ima neshto drugo
[01:32] <Phanes> Industrial, it requires root privs so you'll need to use expect or some other means of passing the password unless you change your sudoers file to not require it (dont do that)
[01:32] <Dreaman> ok
[01:32] <gptssddual> ubottu !ru | generic
[01:32] <generic> gptssdual I'm Bulgarian
[01:32] <Industrial> Phanes: this is an automated install. I am cloning this repo inside my Vagrant box and then running the script
[01:32] <Dreaman> gptssddual  not russians
[01:32] <Dreaman> Bulgarians
[01:33] <tjsimmons> guess i'm the only one with issues running apt upgrade?
[01:33] <gptssddual> Dreaman, generic  sorry, my Cyrillian is not that good to see the difference.
[01:33] <Phanes> Industrial, is the script running as root?
[01:33] <generic> It's okay same lango
[01:33] <generic> I speak russian as well lol
[01:34] <gptssddual> generic, sorta, anyway, we speak English here on this channel :-)
[01:34] <k1l_> tjsimmons: does sudo apt update work?
[01:34] <generic> Yea we have to otherwise we will get asskicked
[01:34] <Dreaman> gptssddual you canadian
[01:34] <Dreaman> :)
[01:34] <tjsimmons> k1l_: i'm running as root in an lxc container. it runs, but hangs on every package
[01:34] <gptssddual> Dreaman, no, I' m Dutch
[01:35] <Dreaman> a ok
[01:35] <k1l_> tjsimmons: does it work on apt update to get a proper clean list?
[01:35] <gptssddual> Dreaman, but I have nothing against Canadians ;-)
[01:35] <tjsimmons> k1l_: it doesn't fail, and reads all the sources
[01:35] <Dreaman> ok :)
[01:36] <k1l_> tjsimmons: ok, so its not a connection issue at all or a ipv6 issue or such
[01:37] <tjsimmons> right
[01:37] <gptssddual> whoa, I'm running a Live environment now and the time seems to be off, it' s actually 2:35 AM here. I need to get to bed!
[01:37] <tjsimmons> right now it's stuck on updating bash
[01:37] <tjsimmons> 100% downloaded it says
[01:37] <Phanes> Industrial, https://github.com/shadow-maint/shadow/blob/master/src/chsh.c <-- i think this is what youre looking for
[01:37] <tjsimmons> "98% [1 bash 583 kB/583 kB 100%]"
[01:38] <Industrial> Phanes: no it's running as use 'ubuntu'
[01:38] <Industrial> Phanes: wat? I don't know C :-)
[01:38] <gptssddual> Dreaman, Phanes, k1l_ , thank you so much for the help. I need to catch some ZZzzz's before I mess up two days of work ;-)
[01:39] <Phanes> Industrial, it either needs a password supplied via expect (man expect), run as sudo privs (man sudoers), the line directly injected into /etc/passwd (requires root, and dont), or you can copy that source and im pretty sure you'll still need pass or root, but, could hardcode (dont do that)
[01:40] <Phanes> in short, re-evaluate what you want to do.
[01:41] <gptssddual> In other words: Good <insert your local time of day here> everyone, I'm going to bed...
[01:41] <Industrial> Okay, well I guess I can just add it as a post-install script to be ran in an interactive session so I can supply the password at the right time (after ssh-ing into the vagrant box)
[01:41] <Industrial> Phanes: thanks for the thinking/time :)
[01:41] <Phanes> yep
[01:41] <Industrial> Phanes: however vagrant uses keyfiles and not passwords so I don't know the password to the ubuntu user.
[01:41] <Industrial> but I'll get that sorted :D
[01:41] <Phanes> Industrial, also (man sed) (think sudo) (think dont)
[01:42] <tjsimmons> Apt log is also empty
[01:43] <Industrial> This is pretty rad. With just a Vagrantfile and one command (vagrant up) I get a complete development station with programming tools, IDE configured, shell etc and also a window manager. Any new stuff I'll just add a new install script and press DESTROY and RECREATE.. awzum =D
[01:43] <Phanes> you know you can build your own vagrant images right
[01:43] <Phanes> instead of post-installs
[01:43] <gptssddual> k1l_, I' m switching to the server installer, so I can setup RAID1 and lvm properly before actually installing.
[01:44] <Industrial> I can take a vagrant box state and generate an image off of it to work from in another Vagrantfile?
[01:44] <Phanes> there's a little more setup but yes
[01:44] <k1l_> tjsimmons: i am not familiar with lxc and if that is some sort of lxc issue with diskspace or such
[01:44] <Industrial> Cool. I could specialize the box for each project and add required tools .. but that might be a bit overkill :D
[01:45] <Phanes> it is a pretty common approach
[01:45] <Industrial> Plus I wouldnt want to force my personal homefile on someone else using it
[01:45] <Industrial> k
[01:46] <gptssddual> Signing off...
[01:46] <Phanes> Industrial, a fully functional environment should be immediate after launching a new container if youre hoping for a smooth sdlc
[01:47] <tjsimmons> Maybe I just need to use an Ubuntu mirror repo?
[01:48] <Phanes> tjsimmons, im not really getting a feel for what your issue is doing
[01:48] <Phanes> you've got an lxc container deployed, apt upgrade is stalling after the first package?
[01:51] <tjsimmons> Phanes: yes
[01:51] <tjsimmons> basically
[01:51] <Phanes> tjsimmons, can you copy what happens in your term, and paste the dmesg as well
[01:51] <Phanes> (guest dmesg)
[01:53] <mekeor`> while installing ubuntu, i chose to encrypt my whole disk. later, i also checked a box saying i want my personal data to be encrypted. what does the latter even mean? and will it even make any difference...
[01:55] <tjsimmons> Phanes: sec
[01:56] <tjsimmons> http://pastebin.com/uhWH898Q
[01:56] <tjsimmons> terminal output. it eventually starts timing out connections
[01:56] <Phanes> tjsimmons, journalctl -n 30
[01:57] <futurama140> HOWDY PEOPLE! I am having an issue that maybe you all can help with. I have cinnamon running, and there is no keyboard shortcut to toggle the case (uppertcase/lowercase) of whatever text I have highlighted. How do i tell the custom keyboard shortcut to do that with my key combo?
[01:57] <k1l_> tjsimmons: how long did you wait? could be it is calculating stuff in the background for that upgrade
[01:58] <tjsimmons> i don't see anything useful in dmesg or journalctl
[01:58] <tjsimmons> k1l_: until they timed out. few minutes?
[01:58] <sysadmin> hello... I've plugged an internal HDD on my PC while it was on. The HDD gets properly recognized w/out any problem. Does it mean it's hot swappable? Or do I still face chance of data loss?
[01:58] <k1l_> timing out? hmm.
[01:58] <tjsimmons> yeah, the connections to archive.ubuntu.com
[01:59] <Phanes> what does `curl -I http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/` net you
[01:59] <Phanes> (from that same guest)
[02:00] <futurama140> Do i have to point the shortcut gui to a... bin file? or something?
[02:01] <tjsimmons> that curl isn't installed. haha. sec
[02:01] <Phanes> futurama140, yeah keyboard macros to executable
[02:01] <tjsimmons> well, i can install curl just fine
[02:01] <tjsimmons> Phanes: it gave me the html from that page
[02:01] <tjsimmons> so that worked
[02:01] <Phanes> tjsimmons, can i see the output of your `df -h`
[02:02] <tjsimmons> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/dWNMsg7P/
[02:02] <futurama140> Phanes: i really still dont know my way around the fileing system, how would i go about finding the file?
[02:03] <Phanes> futurama140, im not aware of an executable that would change text case for whatever text is highlighted in X you may need to write a macro that wraps around the clipboard
[02:04] <futurama140> Phanes: wow im in over my head, this will take a while...
[02:04] <Phanes> futurama140, you could also bind the key in vim
[02:04] <Phanes> it'll be a little easier to do than that
[02:07] <Phanes> eh, i can do better than that
[02:07] <Phanes> check out xclip
[02:07] <Phanes> xdotool
[02:07] <Phanes> futurama140, `xclip -o -sel p | tr '[:lower:][:upper:]' '[:upper:][:lower:]' | xclip -i -sel c; xdotool key Shift+Insert` or something to that affect
[02:08] <Phanes> not responsible for side effects
[02:09] <futurama140> Phanes: im willing to take the chance. im a totaql n00b, though, what do i do with that string?
[02:09] <Phanes> you want to build a script and bind your macro key to that script
[02:10] <Phanes> futurama140, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[02:10] <Phanes> futurama140, and please be aware that this is outside the scope of ubuntu, you'll get better help from here in #bash since you're writing a bash script
[02:10] <futurama140> Phanes: ok, thanks. just got a bit of reading to do then. im sure it'll be immensely useful
[02:11] <Phanes> its a good guide for starting out
[02:11] <futurama140> Phanes: I realize this isnt really the appropriate room, but it's the only one that ever has any activity!
[02:13] <Phanes> no worries.  you'll turn that noobsauce into dry linuxer sarcasm in no time.
[02:20] <isaac_>   
[02:23] <tjsimmons> eh whtever. using the mirror at kernel.org solved my upgrade issues
[02:23] <tjsimmons> no idea what's going on with me and archive.ubuntu.com
[02:25] <TragicM3LON> hey could someone help me out? I'm trying to boot a windows 10 usb off of hardware that was previously configured running ubuntu on. Anyway, when i try to boot it just loads grub every time? i don't know how to boot the usb?
[02:25] <dax> talk to ##windows, you're probably having issues with your BIOS/UEFI boot order
[02:25] <TragicM3LON> ok
[02:25] <tjsimmons> yeah almost 100% that's it
[02:25] <TragicM3LON> cool thanks guys
[02:25] <tjsimmons> you aren't interrupting your boot sequence to pick usb before it hits your main boot drive
[02:26] <dax> (i.e. current OS is irrelevant)
[02:26] <futurama140> Phanes: I had this http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Commands-For-Text.html#Commands-For-Text pulled up earlier, and i noticed the bash command for doing exactly what i want. does that make my job any easier?
[02:26] <TragicM3LON> tjsimmons i would hit F11 to select a boot option, and when i select the drive, it goes straight to grub
[02:27] <tjsimmons> ah, then maybe it can't find anything to boot off of on that usb
[02:28] <weswes887> I need help with my Ubuntu install
[02:29] <weswes887> Oh wait nvm
[02:31] <backbox> CIao
[02:31] <Dreaman> :)
[02:31] <backbox> Italiani??
[02:33] <Dreaman> weswes887  just install unetbooti rufus usb install or dvd burn
[02:33] <Dreaman> what is the problem
[02:34] <generic> Weswes887 Rufus works fine
[02:35] <generic> Weswes887 if you need help we need to know what is the problem, please be more specific.
[02:38] <Dreaman> generic sramejliv e
[02:38] <Dreaman> :)
[02:39] <Dreaman> generic ot amerika li chatkash
[02:39] <weswes887> I was using ubuntu server for a minimal ubuntu install but I decided there's no point because I am gonna install unity anyway so I am just gonna reinstall with a DVD I have
[02:40] <Dreaman> weswes887  why
[02:41] <Dreaman> usb flash download ubuntu rufus
[02:41] <Dreaman> and create usb boot ubuntu
[02:42] <tatertots> weswes887: take care
[02:42] <Dreaman> or unetbootin
[02:43] <mcafeemedia> Anyone here who works on documentation?
[02:44] <weswes887> I use Linux exclusivly so I know how to make USB disks
[02:45] <weswes887> Thanks for trying to help though
[02:49] <mcafeemedia> anyone here successfully running 5.1 surround on 16.04lts?
[02:50] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: i'm sure lots of people are. Whats your problem?
[02:50] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: erh, new install, it doesn't work. Have tried editing to show 6 default channels but no luck
[02:51] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: open terminal
[02:51] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: aplay -L|nc termbin.com 9999
[02:51] <Mozammel> weswes887: can you suggest me which softwere I should use to make fedora 25 bootable USB, unetbootin not working.
[02:52] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: press ENTER
[02:52] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: share url/link here
[02:52] <mcafeemedia>  dklv
[02:52] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: termbin[dot]com/ dklv
[02:52] <opti> is this the best channel to ask about 16.04.2 ?
[02:53] <dax> opti: yes
[02:53] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: irc chat client is being finniky about the /
[02:53] <opti> does anyone know if they plan on patching or pushing a new zfs that works with the hwe kernel?
[02:53] <weswes887> Mozammel: What OS?
[02:54] <weswes887> Rufus works good on Windows
[02:54] <Mozammel> I'm running ubuntu 16.10
[02:54] <weswes887> I use gnome disk utility
[02:55] <Mozammel> gnome disk utility can make bootable disk ? cna you guide through ?
[02:55] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: also that is the coolest f*n cmd. never thought to pipe nc to any link much less a pastebin :D
[02:56] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: aplay -l|nc termbin.com 9999
[02:56] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: share url/link here
[02:56] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: it's actually different, it might look the same as what you did previously on first glance
[02:57] <weswes887> Well one way to do it is right click the ISO and select open with, then disk image write
[02:57] <mcafeemedia> tatertots:  plw3
[02:57] <weswes887> or go to disks, click the 3 lines at the top (menu button) and restore from image Mozammel
[02:58] <TragicM3LON> just a quick question, i tried using lilo and now when booting it says "No boot signature in partition"
[02:58] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: amixer|nc termbin.com 9999
[02:59] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: 9kb4
[03:00] <Mozammel> weswes887: okay let me try your steps. I will get back to you with result.
[03:03] <Mozammel> weswes887: One more question, I can see from disk utility that there is one 80MiB Loop Device created autometically, (/var/lib/snapd/snaps/core_714.snap) I don't know how and for what it created, any idea ?
[03:03] <weswes887> Nope
[03:03] <weswes887> Idk if it is a ubuntu thing or what (I use Arch and Opensuse mostly)
[03:04] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: nothing major yet, would need to get a closer look at the audio and its sub system
[03:04] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: if what I'm reading is correct the board (z170x gaming 5 gigabyte) is capable of pushing dolbydigital thru optical out (which is what I'm using) but is currently pushing PCM (2.1 surround)
[03:04] <Mozammel> ok. my bootable USB disk created, let me try to reboot my device and check whether it works or not.
[03:05] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: let me log into this channel from my laptop and I'm going to check the bios and make sure i'm not missing a toggle somewhere
[03:05] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: install inxi and let's take a look and figure some stuff out
[03:05] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: ok, shutdown -a ;)
[03:06] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: don't forget to install inxi
[03:06] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: installed
[03:07] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: inxi -Fxrzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[03:07] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: kshj
[03:08] <weswes887> Mozammel: The loop device is probaly a mounted disk image or something
[03:10] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: modinfo snd_hda_intel|nc termbin.com 9999
[03:11] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: gfcy
[03:11] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: what are you using as your > 2.1 source sound to test with?
[03:12] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: settings>sound>test sound    also speaker-test cmd for 5.1
[03:13] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c6 -l1 - twav
[03:13] <Mozammel> weswes887: I confirm, it work for fedora 25, now I'm trying openSUSE 42.2 iso. thanks for guide me.
[03:14] <weswes887> You're welcome, gnome disks is a great application
[03:14] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: termbin 38yh for output from speaker-test
[03:14] <weswes887> how is ubuntu working on the pi zero?
[03:16] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: hardware looks to be capable, it'd have to be something with your configuration
[03:17] <KSIGNSIPA> Bedtime for me.
[03:17] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: yeah, that's why i'm here, the ubuntu wiki for surround sound has a bunch of stuff that is old or doesn't work, and one link is malicious
[03:17] <KSIGNSIPA> Wish me sweet dreams.
[03:18]  * mcafeemedia wishes KSIGNSIPA sweet dreams
[03:18] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: you should try playing some true, Dobly digital 5.1/Dobly DTS source material to test with. Like a dvd movie or something that would have true DD 5.1 raw
[03:19] <htafdresgi> how can I set up my wireless as an access point from the command line?
[03:19] <htafdresgi> or hotspot
[03:19] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: there is a website that runs 5.1 tests, i'm assuming the file from their is true 5.1
[03:19] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: think i could produce one in audacity?
[03:20] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: if you play the file back you can observe it's properties
[03:20] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: Oin rhythmbox?
[03:21] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: use the default video player to play the audio file
[03:21] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: then observe it's properties
[03:21] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: opening an mkv of Django Unchained, I know it was 5.1, next i'll grab that audio file.... what do you mean observe?
[03:22] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: just right click the file? Or do you mean just listen to it?
[03:22] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: observe=look at
[03:22] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: you have to play the file in the video player to observe it's properties page in the video player
[03:23] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: oh, gotcha, also does ubuntu have a version of the screen cmd built in, if so..what is it?
[03:24] <mikeymop> Hey guys
[03:24] <mikeymop> I"m on 16.04, xps935. I just randomly had two pretty nasty system locks
[03:25] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: have you enabled the audio in alsa like shown here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeOuseUqe9Y
[03:27] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: trying now
[03:27] <tonberry-king> If i pin flood my router to test speeds do i lag others on the network ?
[03:27] <tonberry-king> *ping
[03:28] <tonberry-king> Nothing crazy just using ping -f 0.0.0.0
[03:29] <tatertots> tonberry-king: why are you testing speeds?...
[03:30] <tonberry-king> Just looking into my connection speeds through wireless seeing if it's position is best
[03:31] <tonberry-king> Dont have a portable comp too setup iperf or anything fancy
[03:32] <tatertots> tonberry-king: don't forget it also has to compete with every other nearby 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz devices they are in use next door, up stairs, down stairs, across the street etc
[03:32] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: that video is so old that the Channels option isn't in the mixer anymore,
[03:32] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: however, mixer does have a volume slider for each individual channel and they were all turned up
[03:33] <Turiya> AMD RYZEN NEWS, LATEST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMfNz2SXVLk
[03:34] <cfhowlett> Turiya, do not spam our channel please!  this is rude and violates channel guidelines.  stop it.
[03:34] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: you have to use pavucontrol
[03:34] <tonberry-king> tatertots: Sorry pinging wont effect other ap's
[03:35] <tatertots> tonberry-king: i was referring to competition and interference at the RF level, as in near by devices that use the same or an adjacent RF radio frequency.
[03:36] <tonberry-king> tatertots: So your saying pinging wont give me a good example of other interference
[03:37] <tatertots> tonberry-king: did you have a ubuntu problem or issue? yes or no
[03:38] <tonberry-king> tatertots: No and your right not right channel
[03:39] <tonberry-king> tatertots: thanks though
[03:39] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: can we swear her because you are a fucking genius, pavucontrol wasn't installed, I installed it, clicked the drop down for "advanced" clicked all the additional audio outputs,and it works great!
[03:39] <Spec> mcafeemedia: no.
[03:39] <nicomachus> !language | mcafeemedia
[03:40] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: glad 5.1 surround sound is now working for you :)
[03:40] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: then went to the drop down and changed output from Digital Stereo to Digital Surround 5.1
[03:40] <Phanes> so, this is interesting, why is my chroot able to see the chroot host's processes from the guest chroot? http://paste.silogroup.org/alapitiqet.bash
[03:40] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: You're awesome man, thank sso much for the time and effort you put into helping, also if you know anyone who works documentation, the ubuntu wiki/community/surroundsound has malicious links
[03:40] <Phanes> chroot doesn't share procfs with the host does it?
[03:41] <nicomachus> mcafeemedia: you should report those in #ubuntu-wiki
[03:41] <tatertots> mcafeemedia: i'm just glad you got your 5.1 surround sound working, that documentation will sort itself out over time in the long run......maybe
[03:42] <mcafeemedia> tatertots: LOL doubtful, I reported it in #ubuntu-docs but that's a barren waste
[03:42] <Phanes> it does!  sweet i learned something about chroot and now know less about how chroot works than before i knew it.
[03:43] <mcafeemedia> Phanes: The more wise I become, the more I know that I do not know
[03:43] <Phanes> the 'mcafee' tipped me off
[03:44] <mcafeemedia> Phanes: whaddaya mean?
[03:44] <Phanes> hehehe.  sorry.  was thinking of mcafee AV scanner
[03:44] <mcafeemedia> Phanes: oh...some relation, but not enough to get any of John's money
[03:45] <Phanes> you should go into infosec
[03:45] <Phanes> and be like 'yeah we have code sessions in my basement' :: wipes nose ::
[03:45] <mcafeemedia> Phanes: instead I'm going into linux admin and infosec  lol
[03:46] <Phanes> you're gonna find out really quickly that linux systems is just the entry criteria for being allowed to the interview
[03:46] <Phanes> master it and move on
[03:46] <mikeymop> so i dont think it was linux, the laptop I was just on just self destructed :/
[03:49] <chandra> ehmn...
[03:53] <nicomachus> !ot | all
[03:55] <australopithecus> hello so I have a 4k screen on my laptop, I am using ubuntu mate 16.1, is there some fix to make it so it scales things properly, I have increased font but I still get super tiny things like this with most linux apps, including wine http://i.imgur.com/r4rqXnB.jpg
[04:08] <amrmondy> hello all
[04:08] <amrmondy> hello
[04:08] <amrmondy> happy new year guys
[04:09] <nicomachus> hi amrmondy. do you have an ubuntu support question?
[04:11] <tatertots> hi australopithecus
[04:11] <australopithecus> hello tatertots
[04:11] <tatertots> australopithecus: open terminal
[04:11] <australopithecus> done
[04:12] <tatertots> australopithecus: perform the following actions in terminal and press enter
[04:12] <tatertots> australopithecus: xrandr|nc termbin.com 9999
[04:12] <tatertots> australopithecus: share url/link here
[04:13] <australopithecus> http://termbin.com/1nne
[04:13] <australopithecus> here it is tatertots thanks for the help btw
[04:14] <tatertots> australopithecus: no problem
[04:16] <tatertots> australopithecus: i think i see what you're describing, i would need to take a more detailed look. do you mind? nothing unique to your person.
[04:16] <australopithecus> sure
[04:17] <tatertots> australopithecus: ok, install inxi, it's in the repos so you can find it using the software manager, or install it in any other method you prefer.
[04:17] <nicomachus> why inxi?
[04:18] <tatertots> australopithecus: you can remove it later if you want, it's up to you
[04:18] <australopithecus> already installed
[04:18] <australopithecus> wait nvm tired
[04:18] <tatertots> australopithecus: inxi -Fxrzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[04:18] <australopithecus> do I install the generic
[04:19] <tatertots> australopithecus: yes, inxi is in the ubuntu repositories making it easy to find using your favorite method
[04:20] <tatertots> australopithecus: if you are too tired to go on that's fine...take care
[04:21] <Gr33ntea> hey guys, I am trying to install Ubuntu onto an Acer One 10, I have make sure to turn off secure boot, and made the USB the default boot. However it does not boot from the USB. I have tried it on a different laptop, and it works fine.
[04:21] <australopithecus> no no its fine
[04:21] <australopithecus> http://termbin.com/p1qf
[04:21] <australopithecus> thanks I appreciate the help
[04:21] <australopithecus> I just ran the install command and the program was already installed just got confused
[04:22] <Gr33ntea> made not make* sorry typo.
[04:22] <Bashing-om> Gr33ntea: Acer: some: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2330267 <-  set "trust" on the Ubuntu/grub .efi files.
[04:24] <tatertots> australopithecus: xrandr -s 7
[04:24] <tatertots> australopithecus: does that look better or worse?
[04:24] <australopithecus> worse too huge
[04:24] <australopithecus> the screen is a box
[04:25] <australopithecus> its no longer wide screen
[04:25] <tatertots> australopithecus: xrandr|nc termbin.com 9999
[04:26] <australopithecus> http://termbin.com/xjmo
[04:26] <weswes887>  what is your guys opinion of mate
[04:26] <Gr33ntea> Bashing-om, How do I go about setting trust?
[04:27] <Gr33ntea> oh i see the elink
[04:27] <Gr33ntea> nvm sorry!
[04:27] <tatertots> australopithecus: xrandr -s 6
[04:27] <tatertots> australopithecus: does that look better or worse?
[04:27] <Gr33ntea> Bashing-om, But this is for if you managed to get it installed.I cant even get the computer to boot into ubuntu
[04:27] <Bashing-om> Gr33ntea: More than in the link I do not know, as I have no experience with the Acer .
[04:28] <australopithecus> well one of the problems is that its cutting stuff off
[04:28] <australopithecus> its better though
[04:28] <australopithecus> maybe its because I have things saled
[04:29] <tatertots> australopithecus: do you have your TVs video setting set to 1:1 or to stretch or zoom or pan-scan ?
[04:29] <australopithecus> no idea
[04:29] <australopithecus> what pan-scan is
[04:30] <Bashing-om> Gr33ntea: More hints : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2333630 for the Acer to allow booting .
[04:30] <tatertots> australopithecus: xrandr -s 2
[04:30] <tatertots> australopithecus: does that look better or worse?
[04:31] <australopithecus> just one second I have the font hugely scaled up so it is making things too big
[04:31] <tatertots> australopithecus: ok,
[04:32] <australopithecus> its like half my screen is cut off
[04:32] <australopithecus> also it is slightly better
[04:32] <australopithecus> but again it is letter box
[04:33] <australopithecus> http://i.imgur.com/undefined.png
[04:33] <australopithecus> this is what my screen looks like atm
[04:33] <tatertots> australopithecus: it would be good to be cognizant of how you have your video settings on the display itself, but we can still continue and find something that looks acceptable to you
[04:33] <tatertots> australopithecus: that link to imgur.com does NOT work
[04:34] <amrmondy> hello
[04:34] <australopithecus> http://imgur.com/a/d7lTu
[04:34] <australopithecus> sorry
[04:34] <amrmondy> what this ?
[04:35] <australopithecus> yeah I am sorry tatertots its just kind of hard to use this laptop with the current setting
[04:35] <amrmondy> anyone can see my words ?
[04:35] <tatertots> australopithecus: xrandr -s 0
[04:35] <australopithecus> I appreaciate your help immensely tatertots thank you again for taking the time
[04:35] <Bashing-om> amrmondy: You are live .
[04:35] <amrmondy> Helloooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[04:35] <australopithecus> sorry for being ignorant about these things
[04:36] <tatertots> australopithecus: no problem
[04:36] <amrmondy> how r u guys ?
[04:36] <tatertots> australopithecus: did you get your font sized back to stock/default size?
[04:37] <australopithecus> give me one moment I will try
[04:37] <amrmondy> Bashing-om
[04:37] <amrmondy> i am not live
[04:37] <amrmondy> no one see me
[04:37] <amrmondy> Bashing-om: i am not live
[04:38] <nicomachus> I'm trying to install a package called "librespot" with cargo, but it keeps getting stuck on compiling. not sure if I should try to get help here or somewhere else...
[04:38] <amrmondy> Bashing-om: anyone can see my words ?
[04:38] <australopithecus> I set it back to 99
[04:38] <australopithecus> tatertots
[04:38] <Bashing-om> amrmondy: This is ubuntu support, ask your support question .
[04:39] <tatertots> australopithecus: you can now go back and try the different settings we looked at to find one that looks best
[04:39] <amrmondy> Bashing-om: okay
[04:40] <tatertots> australopithecus: xrandr -s 2
[04:40] <amrmondy> i using xubuntu on my Samsung chromebook and i have some problems there
[04:40] <amrmondy> i can't open my videos
[04:40] <amrmondy> error on gstreamer
[04:41] <amrmondy> in *
[04:41] <australopithecus> tatertots it seems that using this cuts my screen in half
[04:42] <tatertots> australopithecus: xrandr -s 14
[04:42] <black_> amrmondy what player you have?
[04:42] <australopithecus>  xrandr -s 2 puts the computer in letter box
[04:42] <tatertots> australopithecus: 14 should look pretty good
[04:43] <australopithecus> Ok I think I figured this out
[04:43] <australopithecus> thanks so much tatertots, yeah 14 is a bit too big
[04:44] <black_> amrmondy install a mplayer and try again
[04:44] <australopithecus> but I can mess with it until I get something good :)
[04:44] <australopithecus> you are the best
[04:44] <nicomachus> this is the error I'm getting from cargo: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23762278/
[04:44] <tatertots> australopithecus: you're welcome
[04:44] <australopithecus> its just that when I use this command it doesnt "scale" or make things fit
[04:44] <australopithecus> so I need to move all the objects over on my top bar
[04:45] <tatertots> australopithecus: oh you need to log out and back in again when you switch
[04:45] <amrmondy> i installed it
[04:45] <amrmondy> but didn't work
[04:45] <australopithecus> oh shit lol
[04:45] <australopithecus> ok
[04:45] <australopithecus> I will try that
[04:46] <amrmondy> i installed vlc and work badly
[04:46] <australopithecus> thanks again 14 seems to be the best
[04:46] <amrmondy> i will try install mplayer or kplayer
[04:47] <tatertots> australopithecus: i figured you'd like 14
[04:48] <ledeni> amrmondy, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[04:49] <amrmondy> yes i did
[04:49] <tatertots> australopithecus: you might try 12 also
[04:51] <ledeni> amrmondy, did you install xubuntu-restricted-extras?
[04:52] <amrmondy> yes i installed it
[04:52] <amrmondy> still didn't work
[04:53] <ledeni> amrmondy,what is exactly error message
[04:53] <Bashing-om> amrmondy: 16.04 ; install libdvd-pkg ?
[04:53] <plshelp> can somebody please explain to me what bs is when using dd
[04:54] <tatertots> plshelp: open terminal
[04:54] <tatertots> plshelp: man dd
[04:54] <amrmondy> guys remember i use xubuntu on my samsung chromebook
[04:54] <plshelp> i want to copy my hard drive to an external with a live cd and i don't know what block size to use
[04:54] <tatertots> plshelp: see the section on "bs"
[04:54] <Bashing-om> plshelp: Block size . how much data to copy at a whack .
[04:54] <amrmondy> i use 14.04 LTS
[04:54] <amrmondy> armhf
[04:55] <plshelp> is it purely preference? i don't understand how to decide what to specify
[04:55] <Bashing-om> amrmondy: 14.04 ; install libdvdcss libdvdread4 libdvdnav4 ?
[04:56] <Cayden> Can I get Ubuntu help?
[04:56] <nicomachus> !ask | Cayden
[04:57] <Cayden> !patience
[04:58] <amrmondy> wait i will install them now
[05:02] <crazyhorse18> is there some low level program
[05:02] <crazyhorse18> that can copy files off a hard drive ignoring sector errors?
[05:03] <crazyhorse18> when i went to the hdd recovery shop they had some special magic software that could do it.. even though it wouldn't even mount anywhere else
[05:10] <turista> Hi, I need to ask if in the reposity, there's https links; or how can I check the repository file?¿
[05:16] <tim_> turista what?
[05:16] <turista> how can I open the repository file?¿
[05:16] <tim_> which one?
[05:16] <turista> where these links are when I make sudo apt-get update
[05:17] <tim_> what version of ubnutu?
[05:17] <tim_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:18] <cfhowlett> !details | tim_
[05:18] <tim_> that will cover the last three major releases
[05:18] <tim_> well tim_ is not the one talking in circles not asking any questions
[05:19] <cfhowlett> sorry meant it for turista .  my mistake
[05:19] <cfhowlett> !details| turista
[05:19] <tim_> no worries I think I was able to answer turista question based one what he tried to ask
[05:20] <tim_> *on
[05:21] <tim_> I try to be more patient with the questions folks ask in the Ubuntu channel, after all if they were well seasoned system administrators they wanted be running Ubuntu :)
[05:28] <guest5302> Hello everyone. Anyone here have any luck installing Ubuntu 16.04.1 on an Acer E5-575?
[05:31] <xangua> ! Details | guest5302
[05:32] <tim_> guest5302 a little google-fu shows yes but some bios version maybe problematic http://community.acer.com/t5/E-F-and-M-Series-Laptops/Acer-Aspire-e5-573g-You-can-not-install-any-one-Linux/td-p/386009
[05:32] <tim_> If the Acer has already been purchased best thing to do is test everything with a live cd
[05:34] <tim_> or go balls to the wall install it, and resolve the problems bit but bit, if you are just looking for a laptop to install Ubuntu on before making the purchase Id suggest a dell XPS guest5302 or if you have a budge system76.com builds laptops made for linux
[05:34] <guest5302> Tim Thanks for the link. I figured the BIOS would be a problem. I'll give it a go with the Live CD and see how far I can get.
[05:34] <guest5302> I might just partition the drive and like you said, bit by bit. Might be good for the community to share those steps.
[05:35] <tim_> Most laptops you can just set enable legacy mode and it will bypass most of the problems that arise in uefi
[05:36] <Bashing-om> guest5302: More hints : For an Acer, you have to press the F2 key a couple of times, directly after turning on the computer.
[05:36] <tim_> sorry my spelling sucks tonight, i'm surprise the bots are not crying about it
[05:36] <Bashing-om> guest5302: ^^ from : https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/windows#TOC-Change-some-UEFI-settings .
[05:38] <guest5302> Bashing-om & tim, thanks for the links. I'll get started now and i'll report back later on how it went.
[05:39] <tim_> I recall reading back when secure boot came out that canonical  would be purchasing digital keys so the installers would work with uefi and secure boot?
[05:40] <tim_> in face I think all linux distro maintainers would be doing this by now
[05:40] <tim_> face = fact
[05:47] <Bashing-om> guest5302: Also : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2330267 <-  set "trust" on the Ubuntu/grub .efi files. ; https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2333630 .
[06:03] <oniichan> hello
[06:03] <tim_> hello
[06:03] <nicomachus> o/
[06:03] <amrmondy> hello
[06:04] <RonWhoCares> I am switching my computer to 2 hard drives
[06:04] <RonWhoCares> Hard drive #1 - Operating system / programs.  Hard drive #2 - data.  Is it worth having a separate partition for /usr on the data drive/
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> !home | RonWhoCares
[06:06] <RonWhoCares> lotuspsychje: Thank you
[06:12] <pavansa> hii
[06:23] <TragicM3LON> is there any way to remove grub and put windows bootloader on the system?
[06:23] <TragicM3LON> on the linux side?
[06:28] <hanzi> Hi niggers.
[06:29] <ObrienDave> TragicM3LON, no, windows boot will not recognize linux, afaik
[06:29] <sas-ai> tearfree prevents lines like fire right ?
[06:30] <sas-ai> when i see fire on video it´s like alotta images see lines
[06:30] <TragicM3LON> just trying to get this system to recognize a windows usb, to install windows, but grub keeps pulling up
[06:31] <sas-ai> wanna run videos smooth with radeon II
[06:31] <xXEoflaOEXx> TragicM3LON, Is your Windows USB bootable? Are you be able to boot from USB in BIOS?
[06:31] <cfhowlett> TragicM3LON, that's not grub and that's not how you launch windows.  you need to reboot, hit your bios and choose your boot devide
[06:31] <cfhowlett> device
[06:31] <TragicM3LON> i've done that
[06:31] <TragicM3LON> it still goes to grub
[06:31] <TragicM3LON> so i don't know what's going on
[06:31] <ObrienDave> TragicM3LON, you need to reinstall MFT first. i know there's instructions, but can't remember where they are
[06:32] <sas-ai> boot- priority perhaps ?
[06:32] <cfhowlett> TragicM3LON, check your manual.  it will tell you how to boot from selected media
[06:32] <xXEoflaOEXx> TragicM3LON, When you boot to USB is it going straight to the HDD boot?
[06:32] <TragicM3LON> i know how to, but when i select the USB it goes right to grub
[06:32] <TragicM3LON> i hit F11 to select a boot device, select the USB, goes right to grub
[06:32] <cfhowlett> usb?  you have windows on a usb?
[06:33] <xXEoflaOEXx> TragicM3LON, Are there any HDD activities?
[06:33] <TragicM3LON> yes i created a bootable USB
[06:33] <cfhowlett> in any case, "how do I boot windows"? is a ##windows query or - again - read your hardware manual.
[06:33] <TragicM3LON> ya well felt like a linux thing, since it keeps pulling up grub
[06:33] <TragicM3LON> and lets face it, the windows people don't know how to do this
[06:34] <xXEoflaOEXx> TragicM3LON, How did you make your USB bootable? dd?
[06:34] <TragicM3LON> i tried dd and then tried Etcher to see if dd wasn't working
[06:34] <dax> As discussed last time, this is not an #ubuntu issue. Your computer not booting a Windows install disk is irrelevant to #ubuntu, and unaffected by your currently-installed OS>
[06:35] <cfhowlett> also off-topic = "make a windows usb"
[06:35] <dax> ^
[06:35] <LoganDark> Hello, my root account is being actively bruteforced through SSH. Any advice on how I can globally drop attempts for about 10 minutes after a few failed connection attempts?
[06:35] <xXEoflaOEXx> TragicM3LON, Ask on ##windows.
[06:35] <dax> Yes, I think we've covered that.
[06:35] <TragicM3LON> i'll try again there, last time the ppl just went off in Russian
[06:35] <TragicM3LON> so whatever
[06:35] <dax> LoganDark: so is every other public ssh server. Ignore it, or change port, or use fail2ban/denyhosts
[06:36] <dax> (or firewall it off)
[06:36] <LoganDark> dax didn't expect the rudeness, but I will check out fail2ban thanks
[06:36] <dax> Wasn't being rude, it is what it is.
[06:36] <digital_ghost> how to update "hexchat" on ubuntu?
[06:37] <cfhowlett> digital_ghost, sudo apt install hexchat
[06:37] <dax> LoganDark: people often think it's them specifically getting targeted and get worked up about it. Hence me mentioning that we all get that.
[06:38] <digital_ghost> cfhowlett: i already installed it, my version is 2year old, i want to upgrade to latest hexchat version
[06:38] <LoganDark> dax: All I'm asking for is a way to automatically ban IPs after failed connection attempts. I don't need any extra info
[06:38] <LoganDark> But thanks anyway
[06:38] <cfhowlett> digital_ghost, open a terminal : hexchat --version
[06:38] <dax> LoganDark: fail2ban or denyhosts will both do that, in case you disregarded the rest of the sentence
[06:38] <cfhowlett> 2.10.2 is the latest in the ubuntu repos digital_ghost
[06:39] <dax> LoganDark: though I think one is unmaintained, so I recommend looking at both
[06:39] <LoganDark> in case you disregarded the rest of my sentence, I already said, I quote "but I will check out fail2ban thanks"
[06:39] <dax> LoganDark: ah, good. I forgot you said that.
[06:39] <LoganDark> lol
[06:39] <LoganDark> IRC goes by quick doesn't it
[06:40] <dax> I'm doing 10 things at once right now, also -_-
[06:40] <LoganDark> Lol
[06:41] <digital_ghost> cfhowlett: my client broke today and i got banned, somebody told hexchat is overflooding because i am using the old unstable version
[06:41] <LoganDark> Lol
[06:43] <OERIAS> digital_ghost, use xchat
[06:43] <OERIAS> lol
[06:43] <xXEoflaOEXx> digital_ghost, What Ubuntu version?
[06:43] <OERIAS> or bitchX
[06:44] <digital_ghost> xXEofla0Exx: 16.04 LTS
[06:45] <xXEoflaOEXx> digital_ghost, It seems that you may have to upgrade to Yakkety to get the latest version of HexChat.
[06:46] <digital_ghost> xXEofla0EXx: can i update using other repos?
[06:46] <cfhowlett> digital_ghost, mixing repos = breaking ubuntu
[06:47] <cfhowlett> msg ubottu yakkety hexchat
[06:47] <cfhowlett> digital_ghost, and yakkety has 2.12.02-2ubuntu2 same as xenial
[06:47] <ObrienDave> woah, i'm on 16.04 and my hexchat is current
[06:48] <ObrienDave> 2.12.4
[06:48] <sohum_> hi
[06:48] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, ! really?
[06:48] <ObrienDave> yes
[06:48] <cfhowlett> ppa?
[06:48] <sohum_> hi
[06:49] <sohum_> hi?
[06:49] <xangua> Or one could read the download section https://hexchat.github.io/downloads.html
[06:49] <cfhowlett> ask your ubuntu question sohum_
[06:49] <xangua> PPA, snap, etc
[06:49] <xXEoflaOEXx> digital_ghost, Download hexchat and hexchat repositories from yakkety or use the download link above ^^
[06:49] <sohum_> how do you overclock?
[06:49] <sohum_> im noob
[06:49] <cfhowlett> sohum_, wrong channel.  ask #hardware
[06:50] <sohum_> oops srr
[06:50] <sohum_> im noob
[06:50] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, no, official repos
[06:51] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/ubuntu/hexchat-stable     2.12.0-2-xenial ... unless you snapped or something
[06:51] <a[0]> hi folks, apologies if this isn't the right place for this question -- I'm using 14.04 in a Docker container to try to build a library that uses OpenGL. I'm using conda to build it like this: https://github.com/ccordoba12/pcl-conda-recipes/blob/master/pcl/meta.yaml
[06:52] <a[0]> the problem is I get errors like this: "make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib64/libGLU.so', needed by `lib/libpcl_surface.so.1.8.0'.  Stop."  -- it's as if cmake was able to find OpenGL, but then fails to link with it
[06:52] <sohum__> what is this channel topic
[06:52] <sohum__> ?
[06:52] <ObrienDave> oh, my bad, getdeb ppa, sorry
[06:52] <cfhowlett> sohum__, read your topic
[06:52]  * cfhowlett delivers smack to side of ObrienDave's head to force recalibration
[06:52] <tatertots> a[0]: are you chatting from 14.04 right now? yes or no
[06:53] <a[0]> tatertots: no, the stuff I'm talking about is all happening inside docker
[06:53] <tatertots> a[0]: or you have console level access to 14.04?
[06:54] <tatertots> a[0]: i understand inside the docker
[06:54] <tatertots> a[0]: do you have access to the 14.04 system right now?
[06:54] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, lol
[06:54] <Mister_X> hey
[06:55] <Mister_X> I have a service that prevents boot process to finish
[06:55] <tatertots> a[0]: meaning can you open terminal in the 14.04 environment you have? yes or no
[06:55] <Mister_X> I was wondering how I can disable it easily
[06:55] <Mister_X> (16.04)
[06:55] <xXEoflaOEXx> Mister_X, What service that prevents Ubuntu from booting?
[06:56] <a[0]> tatertots: apart from connectivity issues to a remote machine, I can run a shell in it, inside docker, yes. "the 14.04 system" is a just FROM line in a dockerfile
[06:56] <cfhowlett> if you're not booted, I don't see a service blocking your boot, Mister_X
[06:56] <Mister_X> dnscrypt-proxy
[06:56] <Mister_X> cfhowlett, not sure to follow you
[06:56] <tatertots> a[0]: i'm just asking if you have live, realtime administrative level access to the 14.04 system right now?
[06:59] <a[0]> yes
[06:59] <tatertots> a[0]: do you want to find tshoot and find out why it can't find OpenGL
[07:00] <tatertots> a[0]: step #1 install inxi, inxi is in the official ubuntu repositories making it easy to find in the gui software manager, or your preferred installation method.
[07:01] <tatertots> a[0]: step #1 install inxi, inxi is in the official ubuntu repositories making it easy to find in the gui software manager, or your preferred installation method. also making it easy to see details and possibly community reviews and such
[07:02] <tatertots> a[0]: once you have inxi installed let me know, then we'll go to step #2
[07:05] <tatertots> a[0]: are you familiar with installing software in a 14.04 environment? do i need to provide you with the steps?
[07:06] <a[0]> tatertots: i am, but I think it will be more effective for me to gather the Dockerfile and small handful of files; the issue should be exactly reproducible
[07:06] <a[0]> just another minute or two
[07:09] <a[0]> tatertots: this should reproduce the problem https://gist.github.com/jtbandes/14e0c5a285a4fee969a562a49fd60da9
[07:10] <a[0]> I had to modify things slightly because gist doesn't accept files nested in dirs; running again myself to verify. but basically follow the instructions in the first file, and you will ultimately see the failure on the last step
[07:10] <Mister_X> any way to abort a service startup while the system is booting?
[07:10] <tatertots> a[0]: well no  step #2 for you is all i'm reading
[07:10] <Mister_X> dnscrypt-proxy is hanging and preventing the whole system to boot
[07:11] <tatertots> a[0]: and that's perfectly acceptable
[07:11] <tatertots> a[0]: take care, and good luck
[07:11] <xXEoflaOEXx> Mister_X, Are you able to boot into recovery mode?
[07:12] <a[0]> thanks
[07:12] <Mister_X> yes
[07:12] <Mister_X> but when getting a root shell, after a minute, screen gets messed up
[07:13] <tatertots> a[0]: do they have #docker irc channels on freenode that you're aware of?
[07:13] <xXEoflaOEXx> Mister_X, Did the screen actually distort or does the text get mixed? and what happens when you remove dnscrypt-proxy?
[07:14] <a[0]> tatertots: there probably is one. but I figured it's more about the OS than about docker itself. I haven't used this channel really before so I wasn't sure whether it's totally on topic here
[07:14] <Mister_X> text gets mixed
[07:15] <Mister_X> sometimes, it gets back in the menu
[07:15] <a[0]> there may also be some Stack Exchange site where this is appropriate, but I don't think Stack Overflow is quite right for it
[07:16] <tatertots> a[0]: yes i agree, i'm wondering why you're seeming to avoid rolling up your sleeves and trouble shooting at the 14.04 level, is it due to you not being truly familiar enough with it from a system administrative perspective?
[07:16] <tatertots> a[0]: that means being at that 14.04 console with administrative credentials
[07:16] <xXEoflaOEXx> Mister_X, Maybe use: echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/dnscrypt-proxy.override
[07:16] <tim_> https://docs.docker.com/opensource/get-help/ tatertots
[07:17] <a[0]> I guess I don't quite know what "troubleshooting at the 14.04 level" means. I'll admit I am not the most experienced 14.04 sysadmin, but I am certainly familiar enough to have provided what I believe are exact repro steps for my problem inside a container
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[07:21] <dax> tatertots: (you probably want to resend that, it got blocked by the spam filter)
[07:22] <tjsimmons> ok
[07:22] <tjsimmons> anyone have any thoughts as to why networking.service takes so long to come up?
[07:22] <tjsimmons> my nfs automounts aren't working at boot because of it
[07:23] <tjsimmons> (looking at systemctl list-jobs)
[07:23] <tatertots> dax: he can fin for himself
[07:23] <tjsimmons> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/710SETFy/
[07:24] <WildPenguin> hello, is Seamonkey more lightweight and more suitable than Firefox for a distro like Lubuntu?
[07:24] <dax> not particularly, in my experience
[07:24] <WildPenguin> ok
[07:25] <cfhowlett> WildPenguin, it's free to install and test for yourself
[07:25] <WildPenguin> where can I find it?
[07:26] <tjsimmons> 5 minutes... https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/km9NSaD3/
[07:26] <WildPenguin> Webbrowser usually consumes more CPU resources, I think.
[07:28] <oniichan> hello
[07:29] <xXEoflaOEXx> oniichan, Do you have your Ubuntu question?
[07:29] <dax> they left
[07:29] <xXEoflaOEXx> ok
[07:30] <Speiros> What is the reason some change their name so many times in a row?
[07:30] <dax> Speiros: someone making noise to be silly
[07:30] <Speiros> dax Ah, okay.
[07:37] <Mister_X> xXEoflaOEXx, tried that but my issue is remounting the filesystem rw
[07:37] <Mister_X> mount -o rw,remount /
[07:37] <Mister_X> doesn't seem to work
[07:38] <xXEoflaOEXx> Mister_X, then you have to reboot to Live CD or USB and don't reinstall, go to Live CD.
[07:39] <Mister_X> doesn't work because of nouveau freezing my system
[07:39] <Mister_X> and the disk has FDE
[07:39] <Mister_X> nouveau preventing to boot
[07:40] <Mister_X> NMI soft lock up
[07:40] <Mister_X> optimus
[07:40] <xXEoflaOEXx> Mister_X, What graphics card you have?
[07:40] <Mister_X> 960m
[07:40] <xXEoflaOEXx> Mister_X, nvidia?
[07:41] <Mister_X> yes
[07:42] <xXEoflaOEXx> Mister_X, What Ubuntu version?
[07:42] <Mister_X> 16.10
[07:42] <oniichan> hello
[07:42] <oniichan> test
[07:44] <elky> oniichan: hi, do you have a question?
[07:46] <ObrienDave> they're just testing ;P lol
[07:47] <oniichan> elky : yes i have a question, how to fix metasploits framework
[07:47] <elky> oniichan: i don't know but if you wait someone who knows might chime in.
[07:49] <elky> oniichan: i think they have a channel on here at #metasploit
[07:52] <oniichan> elky : oke thanks for your informations
[07:52] <Speiros> Do you think that an animal has been chosen for the ubuntu version after "Z", or are we going to require an animal with an ampersand at the beginning?
[07:53] <alkisg> Mister_X: if you select the recovery boot, and then select to enable networking, this remounts the root file system rw, so *then* you can select a root prompt
[07:53] <Speiros> I can only think of &goose
[07:57] <devel_> yo
[07:57] <devel_> hows it going
[07:57] <cfhowlett> devel_, ask your ubuntu questions
[07:58] <devel_> wait is this for ubuntu questions? i just wanted to hang out tbh
[07:58] <cfhowlett> !ot | devel_
[07:58] <devel_> o shit sorry fam
[07:58] <Speiros> :)
[08:04] <Sam-Vesta> That works.
[08:05] <Sam-Vesta> Hi! I'm trying to upgrade from 15.04 to 16.10 via USB, I'm just wondering if the installer will delete my music files.
[08:07] <Speiros> Sam-Vesta If it's an upgrade, technically it's not supposed to, but why risk it?  Do you have an external drive or something?
[08:08] <cfhowlett> Sam-Vesta, possibly but that's why you backed everything up first, right?  RIGHT?
[08:08] <Sam-Vesta> I don't. I'm in a bit of a bind. Laptop doesn't have a CD drive.
[08:09] <Speiros> Ah, I had one of those, but was installed with windows.
[08:09] <Sam-Vesta> I'd love to do a backup, but I don't have the resources for it. Money tight, old laptop died, I'm lucky I was able to get the HD into this old spare.
[08:09] <cfhowlett> if's it's not important enough to back up, it's not important enough to save.
[08:10] <Speiros> Sam-Vesta Are you an artist, or a listener?
[08:11] <Sam-Vesta> Listener.
[08:11] <Speiros> Sam-Vesta Because maybe you can encrypt the files and save them to some cloud.  But personally I minimise cloud stuff, although it's near impossible these days.
[08:12] <Sam-Vesta> Speiros: So the usual behavior for Ubuntu when it installs on a partition is to keep the old (non-system) files if it's a compatible linux install?
[08:13] <Speiros> Sam-Vesta I've never gone so far as to testing it.  I delete the whole hard drive and reload, and have my files externally...but I'm quite sure.  Before doing it, have a look on the  ubuntu wiki.  I'll try to find a link.
[08:13] <Sam-Vesta> Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.
[08:15] <Speiros> Where'd he go?
[08:21] <riccardo> hello
[08:21] <MMan> hello
[08:21] <riccardo> Hot corners don't work after restart in ubuntu 16.10.... Any workaround?
[08:22] <MMan> i got my mind burn out, trying to recover since 2008..any way happy new year to all!
[08:23] <Speiros> Thanks MMan.
[08:24] <ballpen> anyone who is using trusty and weechat overit?
[08:24] <ballpen> over it*
[08:25] <bazhang> tried in #weechat yet ballpen
[08:25] <ballpen> yeah
[08:25] <bazhang> state the issue for the channel please
[08:26] <ballpen> but they are saying that weechat 1.6 is out there and there is no such problem in 1.6
[08:26] <ballpen> ok
[08:27] <ballpen> basically I have installed it from repo which is 0.4.2 and I am having some issues with beep.pl
[08:27] <bazhang> which version of ubuntu are you on
[08:27] <ballpen> I tried to look up online and found one solution but as I don't know perl I am unable to use it
[08:27] <ballpen> trusty
[08:27] <ballpen> https://davido.me/2014/08/10/sound-on-highlight-weechat-when-beep-pl-doesnt-work/
[08:27] <bazhang> !info weechat
[08:28] <ballpen> it is 0.4.2 for trusty
[08:28] <bazhang> even the most current does not have 1.6
[08:28] <ballpen> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/allpackages
[08:28] <ballpen> bazhang: yeah exactly
[08:28] <ballpen> bazhang: are you able to understand the solution given in that blog?
[08:29] <bazhang> so the only ways to get it are either compile or find a PPA
[08:30] <bazhang> PPA are entirely at your risk, supported by the maintainer
[08:32] <ballpen> well I had configured it to suite my needs and would be really great If I could get beep.pl working somehow lol
[08:33] <bazhang> thats a three year old blog post
[08:33] <bazhang> so ask in #weechat is the best option here
[08:36] <ballpen> bazhang: k mate thanks :)
[08:43] <Mozammel> my ''darktable'' looks very ugly, anyone have any idea why that, I just install it and did not changed any settion. here is the screenshot, http://picpaste.com/darktable_001-3s2HS9bV.png i'm using ubuntu 16.10, GNOME & Unity, for both DE i'm having the same problem. any help will be appriciated.
[08:53] <manjaro> hello
[08:54] <elky> manjaro: hi, do you have a question about ubuntu?
[08:54] <manjaro> I don`t know English
[08:55] <elky> i see...
[08:56] <elky> what language do you know, manjaro?
[08:56] <ballpen> ^
[08:56] <manjaro> Chinese
[08:56] <ballpen> hmm lol hindi here
[08:57] <manjaro> Goodbye!
[08:57] <elky> manjaro: then you could ask in #ubuntu-cn
[08:57] <ballpen> ^
[09:03] <ducasse> ballpen: weechat.org has debian/ubuntu repos with the latest version, if that is an option for you
[09:04] <dax> and they work very nicely (I use them on Debian)
[09:05] <nkr_> I'm not able to get wikr running on 16.04
[09:05] <ducasse> i use them on x86-64 ubuntu and armhf debian without problems
[09:08] <ballpen> ducasse: thanks!!! :)
[09:08] <ducasse> ballpen: yw :)
[09:27] <linux_> what the fuck
[09:27] <linux_> hello
[09:28] <bazhang> no cursing here linux_
[09:28] <linux_> is sombody here
[09:28] <ballpen> linux_: hello and welcome :)
[09:28] <bazhang> did you have an ubuntu support issue linux_
[09:30] <linux_> is it chinese serv:
[09:30] <linux_> or american
[09:30] <bazhang> !cn | linux_
[09:30] <linux_> hehe
[09:30] <linux_> who are you
[09:30] <bazhang> this is support only linux_
[09:31] <bazhang> please take chat somewhere else linux_
[09:31] <linux_> is that engeneer>
[09:31] <linux_> nice to meet you
[09:31] <bazhang> linux_, do you have an ubuntu support issue
[09:32] <linux_> yeap
[09:32] <ballpen> lol
[09:32] <ballpen> man this is funny
[09:32] <linux_> joking
[09:33] <linux_> i am in beijing
[09:33] <bazhang> !ot | ballpen linux_
[09:33] <bazhang> linux_, please stop the chat here
[09:34] <bazhang> linux_, there are offtopic chat channels for that
[09:34] <ballpen> bazhang: thanks man will surely do :)
[09:34] <linux_> ok
[09:35] <ballpen> bazhang: but I have registered my nick over freenode
[09:44] <black> How to auto connect service, when i run irssi ?
[09:55] <Serdar1> good morning
[09:55] <Speiros> Hi Serdar1
[09:55] <Serdar1> I am trying to finalize my system, still got lot of issues with nvidia driver, but also with fs mounts, which I don
[09:56] <Serdar1> 't understand
[09:56] <Serdar1> dmesg says this  EXT4-fs (sda3): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem
[09:56] <Serdar1> but I don't have an ext partition
[09:57] <Serdar1> okay forget that
[09:57] <Speiros> Serdar1 Okay.  So you can see that an external file system and the ext4 are different things?
[09:57] <Serdar1> strange something corrupted my fstab
[09:58] <Serdar1> Speiros: I found that, there is an ext4 in my fstab, but I introduced xfs there
[09:58] <Serdar1> strange
[09:59] <Serdar1> and this is also wrong... UUID=C246-A538  /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       1
[10:00] <Speiros> Serdar1 I'm not experienced enough to know what the issue is here.
[10:00] <ducasse> Serdar1: what is wrong about the efi entry?
[10:01] <Serdar1> why is there a vfat, I never did that
[10:01] <Serdar1> also /boot is not an extra partition
[10:01] <Serdar1> ah, /boot/efi is the windows bootloader I guess.
[10:01] <ducasse> Serdar1: it's the efi system partition, you need that.
[10:01] <Serdar1> Speiros: I did not introduce it, that's the case
[10:02] <Serdar1> ducasse: this is new to me. the last time I installed linux I only used /boot partition or none, but efi system partition...
[10:02] <Speiros> Serdar1 What is the system you're introducing?  Is it 16:4, 16:10, or something else?
[10:02] <Serdar1> 16.10
[10:02] <Speiros> Ok, thanks
[10:03] <ducasse> Speiros: if your machine already had windows installed the esp would already be there, otherwise you would need to create it. this is probably your first uefi system, that's why you haven't seen it before.
[10:04] <Speiros> ducasse To Serdar1?
[10:04] <ducasse> bad tab complete :)
[10:04] <Speiros> :)
[10:04] <Serdar1> ducasse: before I mean 5-6 years ago :)
[10:05] <pavan> how to Create Bitmap from a byte array  in python
[10:05] <ducasse> Serdar1: on uefi systems you need the efi system partition, that's where the bootloader is stored.
[10:05] <ducasse> pavan: ask ##python
[10:07] <Speiros> pavan That's who can help with that issue mate.
[10:07] <pavan> not getting reply from there
[10:07] <Speiros> pavan It appears there is a large #python site too.
[10:08] <Younder> python is huge yes
[10:08] <Speiros> pavan Try the single hash.
[10:08] <Younder> Anyone have a real #ubuntu question?
[10:09] <fund> Anyone made partition in Usb drive?
[10:09] <Younder> fo
[10:10] <Speiros> Not me fund
[10:10] <Younder> fund: why would you want to?
[10:10] <Younder> fund: yest it is a drive like any other drive
[10:10] <fund> Younder may I ask which are possible usage of it?
[10:10] <Younder> use fdisk
[10:10] <fund> Yest?
[10:11] <Serdar1> where can I see these [OK] messages from boot, is this in syslog or somewhere else?
[10:11] <Younder> make sense
[10:12] <Speiros> pavan There are over 1500 in #python, but you're in ##python.
[10:13] <ducasse> Serdar1: no, they're not stored anywhere afaik.
[10:14] <ducasse> hmm, the official channel seems to have moved from ##python to #python now...
[10:17] <Speiros> ducasse Yeah, it seems so.
[10:20] <sabrehagen> i'm on xubuntu 16.04. i have three monitors. sometimes two of my monitors don't power back on after the computer sleeps. i can force them back on via xrandr though https://gist.github.com/sabrehagen/66da13e33820788270015305d8a385f9
[10:20] <sabrehagen> is there somewhere i can view the 'monitor' logs to look for any error messages?
[10:25] <Serdar1> how do I know, that I need bumblebee?
[10:38] <metaresolve> #postgresql
[10:38] <HexaChop> Hello everyone!
[10:38] <Speiros> Hey HexaChop:)
[10:39] <Speiros> I'm just about to go for about 20min, but I'll be back.
[10:39] <HexaChop> OK.
[10:39] <Speiros> I need food before it gets too late:)
[10:39] <Speiros> Ciao amici:)
[10:40] <HexaChop> Cya.
[10:40] <HexaChop> Somebody maybe wilking to help mw with that boot problem?
[10:41] <HexaChop> Willing*
[10:41] <cfhowlett> !ask | HexaChop
[10:43] <tatertots> HexaChop: have you tried reset BIOS to defaults?
[10:44] <HexaChop> I am getting these errors on a UEFI Desktop Setup. I am trying to install ubuntu into an external harddrive using USB Live Version of Ubuntu. I can't get past this:
[10:44] <tatertots> HexaChop: have you tried reset BIOS to defaults?
[10:45] <ducasse> tatertots: maybe you should listen to what his problem actually is first?
[10:45] <HexaChop> tatertots, no because it would take me ages to reset everything because I need to set up watercooling and all that jazz.
[10:46] <HexaChop> Fot anybody new to my problem: http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[10:46] <HexaChop> For anybody new to my problem: http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[10:47] <ducasse> HexaChop: what kind of external disk?
[10:47] <tatertots> ducasse: he has links for the ppl that are new to his problem, that haven't heard about it over the last week or no with symptoms that occur across linux distributions.
[10:47] <tatertots> ducasse: enjoy the read
[10:47] <HexaChop> Adata NH13, Ducasse.
[10:48] <ducasse> HexaChop: never heard of. is this a standard usb -> sata thing?
[10:48] <HexaChop> Ducasse, yes, most of them are.
[10:51] <HexaChop> Ducasse, it is a laptop harddrive sized HDD put into it.
[10:52] <ledeni> HexaChop, witch laptop ?
[10:52] <ducasse> HexaChop: the specs even say it should work with linux, so i doubt there's anything funny there. the reason i asked is because the image you posted looks like a controller failure to me.
[10:53] <HexaChop> ledeni, I didn't open it, it is simply of the size of a laptop HDD put inside.
[10:53] <ledeni> HexaChop,laptop model
[10:54] <HexaChop> Ledeni, heh, you do not understand,  do you. It came with it already in the external hdd box.
[10:55] <HexaChop> Ledeni, it connects the HDD inside via sata + it shows activity via LEDs.
[10:55] <ledeni> HexaChop,i just asking company of laptop and model
[10:57] <HexaChop> Ledeni, it didn't come from a laptop, it came from factory as a one solid piece with HDD already inside the box.
[10:58] <cfhowlett> hexchop so this is a custom build then?
[10:58] <ducasse> HexaChop: i think he's trying to ask about what the disk is connected to - is it a laptop, if so - which?
[10:58] <ledeni> HexaChop,it is laptop or desktop
[11:01] <serdar> hi all
[11:01] <PSUser2> if i'm a normal user ($) how can I use up arrow in terminal to retrieve a previous command?
[11:02] <serdar> I have a strange behaviour. I create xorg.conf with nvidia-xconfig, but everythime I restart lightdm it gets overwritten
[11:03] <HexaChop> Ledeni, take a look at the HDD online, all of the specs are there, mate.
[11:03] <EriC^^> PSUser2: as usual
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> PSUser2  hitting the up arrow is the normal way
[11:03] <ledeni> HexaChop,it is laptop or desktop?
[11:04] <cfhowlett> he's gone, ledeni
[11:04] <HexaChop> Who's gone?
[11:05] <PSUser2> I need to assign bash instead of shell, i didn't know, i just found out
[11:05] <cfhowlett> HexaChop, you've been here almost 30 minutes and have yet to explain the most basic questions.  read the details and try again
[11:05] <ducasse> HexaChop: nobody is asking about the disk, forget the disk - what is it connected to?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> !details | Hexachop
[11:05] <ducasse> PSUser2: 'chsh /bin/bash'
[11:06] <HexaChop> Ducasse, what should I do, mate?
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> PSUser2  what's the outcome of     env|grep SHELL
[11:06]  * ducasse throws in the towel
[11:07] <PSUser2> i've fixed it with this: sudo chsh -s /bin/bash <username>
[11:07] <cfhowlett> HexaChop, you have an interesting problem.  refusing to give sufficient details is demotivating to helpers.  I'm out, too.
[11:08] <HexaChop> Cfhowlett, what kinds of details you need?
[11:08] <ducasse> HexaChop: you've been asked about ten times what kind of machine this is.
[11:08] <HexaChop> Cfhowlett, I got disconnected, sorry.
[11:09] <HexaChop> Ducasse, Desktop UEFI.
[11:09]  * cfhowlett suspects games are being played ...
[11:09] <ducasse> yeah...
[11:09] <HexaChop> Cfhowlett, what is my reason to play games? Seriously, bro...
[11:11] <HexaChop> So, it is hand-built, no branding, UEFI Desktop PC.
[11:12] <HexaChop> I can tell you the specs if you so wish, ducasse, cfhowlett, because the PC is hand-built by me, there is no branding...
[11:12] <ledeni> HexaChop,and you trying to install ubuntu(please tell us version ) on external usb hdrive
[11:13] <ducasse> HexaChop: motherboard?
[11:13] <HexaChop> Ledeni, latest version, 16,10. Yes.
[11:13] <HexaChop> Ducasse,  Asus Maximus VIII Extreme.
[11:13] <EriC^^> HexaChop: what's the problem?
[11:13] <HexaChop> EriC^^, http://m.imgur.com/gallery/euwBu
[11:14] <ducasse> EriC^^: does that look like controller problems to you too?
[11:15] <EriC^^> ducasse: no idea
[11:15]  * EriC^^ googles now..
[11:15] <Speiros> How are things HexaChop?
[11:15] <EriC^^> HexaChop: is it a normal hdd?
[11:16] <HexaChop> EriC^^, no, external.
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> HexaChop  use this command    sudo lshw -html > ~/Desktop/hardware.html
[11:16] <ledeni> HexaChop,try Change the SATA port for the optical drive
[11:16] <HexaChop> Speiros, same problem, mate.
[11:16] <HexaChop> Ledeni, for CD ROM?
[11:16] <EriC^^> HexaChop: how
[11:16] <EriC^^> how's it connected?
[11:17] <EriC^^> HexaChop: you said it's an asus?
[11:17] <HexaChop> EriC^^, via usb port, Adata NH13.
[11:17] <HexaChop> EriC^^, motherboard, yes.
[11:18] <EriC^^> reading here, seems might be related http://askubuntu.com/questions/228927/boot-failure-failed-command-identify-packet-device
[11:18] <HexaChop> EriC^^, HDD Adata NH13.
[11:19] <EriC^^> try changing the sata port for the optical drive like someone mentioned above
[11:19] <Speiros> EriC^^ How did you call the article?
[11:20] <EriC^^> you mean how'd i find it?
[11:20] <Speiros> yep:)
[11:20] <EriC^^> i searched for this string in google "no sprom ubuntu failed command activate packet device"
[11:20] <HexaChop> 25
[11:20] <HexaChop> I always get thrown out.
[11:20] <HexaChop> Why?
[11:20] <EriC^^> HexaChop: try changing the sata port for the optical drive like someone mentioned above
[11:20] <Speiros> EriC^^Ah, okay.  I never thought of chasing the code problem.
[11:21] <EriC^^> Speiros: yeah it helps like 90% of the time or more
[11:21] <HexaChop> EriC^^ CD-ROM?
[11:21] <EriC^^> HexaChop: yeah
[11:21] <Speiros> EriC^^Good to know.  Thanks.
[11:21] <EriC^^> Speiros: :)
[11:23] <WildPenguin> which is the DE most preferred among Ubuntu users/
[11:23] <WildPenguin> ?
[11:23] <EriC^^> WildPenguin: who knows
[11:23] <cfhowlett> why?
[11:24] <cfhowlett> as in ""why do you care what others use?" when you should be using the system that works for YOU.
[11:24] <WildPenguin> was just curious to know. Actually I wanted to know which one is more active and up to date with the latest features.
[11:25] <cfhowlett> WildPenguin, ask #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:25] <WildPenguin> ok
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> WildPenguin  these are the most common   http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ#cMfLqdM
[11:26] <WildPenguin> ok. thanks a lot.
[11:26] <Speiros> Hmm, interesting.  I didn't realise there were options.
[11:26] <WildPenguin> I am buying a new laptop this week and intend to install Ubuntu on it. That's why I wanted to know that.
[11:30] <HexaChop> EriC^^, my SATAs are burried under GPUs.
[11:32] <ledeni> HexaChop, you use dvd or usb stick with ubuntu install media?
[11:33] <EriC^^> HexaChop: if you boot 10 times it might boot once correctly, then you can add that line in that thread
[11:36] <HexaChop> EriC^^, switched ports.
[11:37] <HexaChop> That wasn't very easy. EriC^^.
[11:37] <neeca> <- noob here: if i want(need) to code in java, should i use openJDK or the oracle thingy? :3
[11:38] <EriC^^> HexaChop: did it work?
[11:39] <l0llip0p> neeca: for learning basics openJDK should do the trick.
[11:39] <HexaChop> EriC^^, even different errors now.
[11:39] <EriC^^> neeca: try #java
[11:39] <Speiros> What are the new errors HexaChop?
[11:39] <ledeni> HexaChop, try to unplug my DVD ROM drive
[11:40] <HexaChop> Ledeni, Speiros, uploading photo.
[11:40] <ledeni> HexaChop, try to unplug  DVD ROM drive
[11:41] <HexaChop> http://m.imgur.com/gallery/GJRRG, ledeni, Speiros, EriC^^
[11:43] <EriC^^> HexaChop: google says it might be a power supply issue
[11:43] <EriC^^> do you have another one you could try?
[11:43] <HexaChop> EriC^^, srsly? No, I don't.
[11:45] <ledeni> HexaChop,try to set nouveau.modeset=0 at the end of the linux line in the pre boot settings as well as I had also been getting errors related to that. To do that you press "e" at the Grub menu to make this edit and press "F10" to apply and boot.
[11:46] <HexaChop> http://m.imgur.com/gallery/nTPQ4
[11:46] <HexaChop> Before Friday grub edit.
[11:47] <HexaChop> Autocorrect put Friday there...
[11:49] <HexaChop> EriC^^, IT STARTED., ledeni.
[11:49] <EriC^^> HexaChop: with the nouveau.modeset=0 ?
[11:49] <HexaChop> But now I get HDMI Not In Optimum Mode....
[11:49] <HexaChop> EriC^^, yes.
[11:49] <HexaChop> EriC^^, now I get Npt Optimum Mode.
[11:50] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ok, try updating the kernel after installing and get a good working driver for the graphics card
[11:50] <HexaChop> EriC^^, HDMI not optimum mode.
[11:50] <EriC^^> HexaChop: have you installed already or is this the live usb?
[11:50] <HexaChop> EriC^^, live USB.
[11:51] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ok, install first, then fix it
[11:51] <PCatinean> hey guys if i can do pip install -r req.txt how can i do so with a txt file online?
[11:51] <PCatinean> basically pull the content out and pass it to pip like it was a local resource
[11:52] <HexaChop> EriC^^, it shows black screen with HDMI NOT IN OPTIMUM MODE.
[11:52] <EriC^^> PCatinean: pip install -r $(wget -qO- http://req.txt)
[11:52] <PCatinean> wget -qO, ohh thanks EriC^^
[11:53] <EriC^^> PCatinean: ah wait
[11:53] <PCatinean> I've been using $() for some time, not sure how it works
[11:53] <EriC^^> PCatinean: i think you need the pip command to actually treat it as a file
[11:54] <EriC^^> PCatinean: the $() will just run the command and replace the line with the output
[11:54] <PCatinean> cool
[11:54] <EriC^^> so it'll be like pip install -r line1 of req.txt line2 of req2.txt
[11:54] <EriC^^> (it won't work)
[11:55] <EriC^^> the >() runs a command and makes it treat it as a file
[11:55] <EriC^^> a very easy way would be to just do wget -O /tmp/req.txt http://req.txt && pip install -r /tmp/req.txt
[11:55] <HexaChop> EriC^^, help...
[11:56] <EriC^^> otherwise i think you need to use >() or <() or <<<
[11:57] <linux123> hi
[11:58] <HexaChop> EriC^^, I've actually booten into ubuntu.
[11:58] <EriC^^> HexaChop: install it
[11:58] <Speiros> Nice:)
[11:59] <HexaChop> Speiros, thanks. :).
[11:59]  * cfhowlett respectfully dips his fedora at EriC^^ - nicely done!
[11:59] <HexaChop> EriC^^, OK.
[11:59] <linux123> Do you like unity?
[11:59] <cfhowlett> linux123, wrong channel - ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:00] <Speiros> Just glad for you mate:)
[12:00] <HexaChop> Speiros, not yet. It froze on prepare to install ubuntu. EriC^^?
[12:01] <Speiros> Ok.  Still, working through the jungle there HexaChop it appears.
[12:01] <k1l_> HexaChop: did you try to uncable the dvd drive?
[12:03] <HexaChop> It unfroze, everyone.
[12:03] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: thanks :D
[12:03] <HexaChop> http://m.imgur.com/gallery/Nrs58, what to hit, EriC^^?
[12:04] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: (i didn't solve the problem though, i think lineri's advice helped)
[12:04] <EriC^^> HexaChop: click on yes
[12:04] <HexaChop> Speiros, yep. definitely.
[12:05] <HexaChop> EriC^^, done.
[12:05] <shadow_hunter> hi!
[12:05] <Speiros> Nice one.  Looks like you're on your way to being able to play on the Ubuntu system.  Thank goodness you got past that horrible stick.
[12:06] <Speiros> Good work to all the folks on here for your efforts and experience, and the fact that you're willing to help us lesser knowledgeable ones in these areas with sharing it.
[12:06] <HexaChop> EriC^^, http://m.imgur.com/gallery/ULK5S
[12:06] <shadow_hunter> Anyone know how to install ubuntu touch generic in my mobile?
[12:07] <cfhowlett> !touch | shadow_hunter
[12:07] <EriC^^> HexaChop: do you have another OS installed on the hdd?
[12:08] <HexaChop> On the HDD, no, but on other HDDs, yes,
[12:08] <shadow_hunter> ubotuu: ok, thanks
[12:08] <EriC^^> HexaChop: other hdds which are connected all the time and you use to boot other OS?
[12:08] <HexaChop> EriC^^, basically.
[12:09] <EriC^^> HexaChop: the thing is, there's uefi mode and bios mode, if you install an OS in a mode, and another in a different mode, you have to switch it in the bios every time you want to boot the different one
[12:09] <EriC^^> HexaChop: what OS is installed in the other hdd?
[12:09] <HexaChop> EriC^^, Windows 10.
[12:10] <EriC^^> it's probably uefi
[12:10] <fund> (fund) Is it possible to boot system from system image back up usb drive?
[12:10] <EriC^^> HexaChop: click on continue in uefi mode
[12:10] <fund> Windows 8.1
[12:10] <HexaChop> EriC^^, are you sure, mate?
[12:10] <EriC^^> HexaChop: yeah it's not a big deal
[12:10] <EriC^^> you can always convert to bios mode or reinstall in bios mode later
[12:11] <HexaChop> EriC^^, true.
[12:11] <EriC^^> HexaChop: are the other hdd's connected right now?
[12:11] <EriC^^> you could check windows in which mode it's installed
[12:11] <HexaChop> EriC^^, nope, only on Power Supply.
[12:12] <Speiros> HexaChop so there is dependency between this HDD and the others? Or not?
[12:12] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ok, no biggie
[12:12] <HexaChop> Speiros, what do you mean?
[12:13] <rodolfo> Guys, can someone shed some light into this: Is it possible/How to remove the bottom panel (Gnome 3.18)?
[12:13] <Speiros> HexaChop From what I'm seeing being said, and according to the screenshots, It seems your HDD you're putting Ubuntu on has boot information for the other HDD's.  Is that a wrong conclusion on my part?
[12:13] <fund> (fund) (fund) Vmware possible to use from thumb drive?
[12:13] <cfhowlett> !vmware | fund
[12:14] <HexaChop> Speiros, I use SSD as a main HDD.
[12:14] <HexaChop> EriC^^, how to make 2 partitions?
[12:14] <EriC^^> HexaChop: you want a separate /home?
[12:15] <HexaChop> Eric^^, yeah. OS on one partition, user stuff on the other.
[12:15] <fund> Virtual box or qemu possible to use from thumb drive?
[12:15] <EriC^^> HexaChop: click on "Something else" in the installer
[12:15] <cfhowlett> fund, explain
[12:15] <HexaChop> EriC^^, already did, mate.
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> fund  i'm not getting it either
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> fund  start from the beginning, what are you doing or trying to do
[12:16] <fund> I don't have enough space in hard disk for virtualization
[12:16] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ok, click on the + sign at the bottom left and make a main partition, ext4 mounted at "/" , then the home partition ext4 mounted at /home then the swap if you want hibernation
[12:17] <fund> So Want to use external pen drive
[12:17] <EriC^^> fund: so connect it and format it and use it
[12:17] <fund> cfhowlett MonkeyDust
[12:17] <HexaChop> EriC^^, sizes?
[12:17] <fund> Format by ntfs or fat32?
[12:18] <EriC^^> HexaChop: the root one needs like 10g minimum, 20g and the rest for home would be great and give a little cushion
[12:18] <EriC^^> maybe 15gb for root if you need the space more
[12:18] <HexaChop> EriC^^, swap size?
[12:18] <Speiros> rodolfo, I'm not sure mate, but someone will be able to look into it in time:)
[12:18] <EriC^^> swap as large as your ram
[12:18] <EriC^^> HexaChop: are you going to use hibernation?
[12:18] <PCatinean> EriC^^, works with curl -q url :D
[12:19] <HexaChop> EriC^^, definitely.
[12:19] <EriC^^> -q?
[12:19] <EriC^^> PCatinean: wasn't it -s for silence?
[12:19] <EriC^^> PCatinean: what do you mean?
[12:19] <rodolfo> Speiros, thank you anyway. I've been fighting GNOME using DConf, GConf, Gnome-tweak-tool, Shell extension, you name it... and no results. :-/
[12:20] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ok make the swap as large as your ram
[12:20] <EriC^^> HexaChop: and a little more like 100-200mbs more
[12:20] <Speiros> I'm just having a look now to see if anything in the past has come up about it rodolfo
[12:20] <HexaChop> EriC^^, I will give it 2gb more.
[12:20] <EriC^^> HexaChop: nah it's alot
[12:21] <EriC^^> how much ram do you have?
[12:21] <Speiros> rodolfo Here's a link where someone had the same problem in 14.4:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/565851/how-to-get-rid-of-the-bottom-panel-in-gnome-3-classic-session
[12:21] <HexaChop> EriC^^, 32GB.
[12:21] <EriC^^> HexaChop: yikes
[12:21] <EriC^^> that's a lot for a swap
[12:22] <HexaChop> EriC^^, home partition logical or primary?
[12:22] <EriC^^> shouldn't matter cause the partition table type should be gpt
[12:23] <EriC^^> HexaChop: try opening a terminal and typing "sudo parted -l" and check the partition table type
[12:23] <Speiros> rodolfo read through it though, before applying it, as one person stated that it didn't work, but that's at the end of the explanation, and then they said it worked when they deleted it.
[12:23] <Sircle> there used to be a "PC suite" for symbion phones, isnt there a similer by google for android? Is there a software for PC /Linux that would pair with my android phone and I be able to send SMS via native android SMS app internally via copy paste in my computer?
[12:23] <rodolfo> Speiros, thanks for the link, I tried that as well. I followed guidelines, forum threads/posts from 2, 3, 4 and even 5 years ago. None worked out. It's almost as if the Gnome team did now want their panel to be removed at all this time.
[12:24] <Speiros> I see rodolfo.  What about the javascript extension it speaks of?
[12:24] <HexaChop> EriC^^ where to look after the command?
[12:24] <Speiros> HexaChop Press enter
[12:25] <HexaChop> Speiros, I did that already, mate.
[12:25] <Speiros> Oh, after you've typed your password into sudo
[12:25] <EriC^^> HexaChop: Partition table: 4th line
[12:25] <HexaChop> EriC^^, MsDos.
[12:25] <EriC^^> ah
[12:25] <EriC^^> HexaChop: you need to create a fresh gpt one
[12:25] <EriC^^> close the installer
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> Sircle  there's wammu/gammu
[12:26] <EriC^^> then type sudo gdisk /dev/sda if that's the name of the hdd
[12:26] <HexaChop> EriC^^, how?
[12:26] <EriC^^> ^
[12:26] <HexaChop> Oh yeah.
[12:26] <EriC^^> after gdisk opens, press "o" then "w" then quit
[12:27] <EriC^^> HexaChop: it'll erase everything on the disk
[12:27] <Speiros> rodolpho So as root, have you been able to go into the file to see the panel?
[12:28] <HexaChop> EriC^^, what if deletes USB instead?
[12:28] <EriC^^> HexaChop: nah it won't, make sure the name (/dev/sda) is the same one you got in sudo parted -l
[12:29] <rodolfo> Speiros, in a nutshell: the javascript extension contains what seems to be a shell extension, which cannot be toggled on or off because Firefox outputs the "Attempt to postMessage on disconnected port." error message. I tried Konotopov's solution following this link: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754316 It seems it worked, but this time I get another error code: "File closed".
[12:29] <HexaChop> EriC^^, Create blank GPT, Create GPT, Create MBR?
[12:30] <EriC^^> HexaChop: create blank gpt
[12:30] <HexaChop> EriC^^, k.
[12:30] <Speiros> rodolfo Ok.
[12:30] <HexaChop> EriC^^, now it asks for command.
[12:31] <rodolfo> Speiros, Is there an other way to make Gnome Shell "detect and accept" the javascript extension?
[12:31] <EriC^^> HexaChop: press "w"
[12:31] <HexaChop> EriC^^, done.
[12:32] <EriC^^> HexaChop: press "q"
[12:32] <Speiros> rodolfo There seems to be another link on Ubuntu.  Do you want to see the link?
[12:32] <HexaChop> EriC^^, the program can be found in following packages.
[12:33] <Speiros> rodolfo Sorry, on askubuntu.com
[12:33] <rodolfo> Speiros, sure. Is it more recent?
[12:33] <Speiros> No, it's just over 2.25 years old.
[12:33] <Speiros> http://askubuntu.com/questions/75530/how-to-install-gnome-shell-extensions rodolfo
[12:34] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ok, try sudo partprobe then sudo parted -l again and see if the partition type changed
[12:34] <rodolfo> Speiros, I'll look into it.
[12:34] <Speiros> rodolfo Ok, best wishes with it.
[12:34] <HexaChop> EriC^^, gpt now.
[12:35] <EriC^^> HexaChop: cool, start the installer again and same thing
[12:35] <kc9iid> Good morning everyone.
[12:35] <HexaChop> EriC^^, k, thanks, bro.
[12:35] <Speiros> :) Hi kc9iid
[12:35] <EriC^^> HexaChop: no problem
[12:36] <rodolfo> Speiros, the link you mentioned provides information on how to install extensions from the official repository and from the Gnome-shell Extensions website. Any idea on how to manually install an extension [the one from Askubuntu you mentioned previously]?
[12:37] <Speiros> rodolfo Oh, I see.  Sorry.  I thought the tool would help, but didn't realise it was just for already existing extensions.
[12:37] <kc9iid> Sorry, trying to get text to appear in a lighter color.
[12:38] <HexaChop> EriC^^, need a screenshot?
[12:38] <EriC^^> HexaChop: sure wouldn't hurt
[12:38] <EriC^^> *sure, wouldn't hurt
[12:41] <HexaChop> EriC^^, Here. http://m.imgur.com/gallery/BUDUo
[12:41] <Speiros> rodolfo Here's one more that might help.  It has a person making their extension, and then calling it to where they want it.  Does this help?  https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/Extensions/StepByStepTutorial
[12:42] <Speiros> rodolfo Just past half-way I think.
[12:43] <australopithecus> hello I am trying to run a script from start up with the following command xrandr -s 6, I wrote a script called http://pastebin.com/xiwPFdGs and saved it as scale_display.sh I try to run the script from terminal and it wont work, I added it to crontab -e, and it also doesnt work
[12:43] <australopithecus> can someone tell me what I am doing wrong
[12:44] <australopithecus> I just added to the crontab -e the scripts location, but even when I try to run it from terminal it doesnt work
[12:44] <australopithecus> the (script that is)
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> australopithecus  you have to chmod +x the file
[12:44] <rodolfo> Speiros, On it. I tried this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/196884/how-to-install-gnome-shell-extensions-offline the person who provided the solution suggested to put the extension file inside the ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ directory but there is no "gnome-shell" in my share folder.
[12:44] <HexaChop> EriC^^, here. http://m.imgur.com/gallery/BUDUo
[12:45] <EriC^^> HexaChop: looks good
[12:45] <HexaChop> EriC^^, ok, hit next?
[12:45] <EriC^^> HexaChop: yeah
[12:45] <australopithecus> awesome monkeydust, was wondering if you could give me an explanation for this, you are just modifying the permission correct?
[12:45] <australopithecus> if not that is fine too, I appreciate your help a lot
[12:45] <australopithecus> thank you
[12:46] <EriC^^> HexaChop: you can make the swap 32gb if you want it won't matter
[12:46] <Sircle> MonkeyDust:  wammu does not detects my phone
[12:47] <Speiros> rodolfo Ok...where is your gnome-shell folder located?
[12:47] <Speiros> rodolfo Or is there none?
[12:48] <rodolfo> Speiros, there is none. I tried starting gnome-shell using the Terminal, which output "Window manager warning: Display ":0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager.Segmentation fault
[12:48] <rodolfo> "
[12:50] <rodolfo> Speiros, the tools I was struggling with are Dconf, Gconf, and Gnome-tweak-tool. I guess I'll add gnome-shell to the mix and see how it goes.
[12:52] <Speiros> rodolfo Yes, fair enough.  Sorry rodolfo I can't find the solution.  What do you mean tools you were struggling with? Using to troubleshoot?
[12:53] <rodolfo> Speiros, Yeah. And after trying to install gnome-shell, the terminal confirms it's ALREADY installed: "gnome-shell is already the newest version (3.18.5-0ubuntu0.2)." I don't see where the gnome-shell folder is located though.
[12:53] <Speiros> rodolfo Technically, that's progress.  Just need to find it.
[12:54] <HexaChop> EriC^^, I am getting same error with UEFI, but now it is EFI.
[12:54] <Speiros> Can you do a search?  I think if you're signed in as root, you can search, even if you can't edit, but at least you can find it and log the path.
[12:54] <EriC^^> HexaChop: no problem, click on continue
[12:54] <EriC^^> HexaChop: oh you mean a different one, what's the error this time?
[12:54] <rodolfo> Speiros, I just did using my file manager as root. Nothing.
[12:55] <HexaChop> EriC^^, lemme upload.
[12:55] <Speiros> rodolfo Okay.
[12:55] <Speiros> I don't know the commands to ask for the path for a specific folder.
[12:55] <EriC^^> HexaChop: k
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> Sircle  https://wammu.eu/phones/
[12:56] <australopithecus> ok so I want to run the following command on startup xrandr -s 6'
[12:56] <rodolfo> Speiros, running out of ideas here. Is there a way to talk to anyone from the Gnome team on IRC?
[12:57] <Speiros> rodolfo That's a good idea...there's a #gnome channel
[12:57] <HexaChop> EriC^^ it says upload error.
[12:58] <australopithecus> ok so I want to run the following command on startup 'xrandr -s 6' to scale ubuntu Mate 16.1 to my display, I wrote a script with only this command in it scale_display.sh how do I add this to startup, I read I can use upstart anyone have a good guide on how to use it or if it is applicable for this case?, I also tried adding it to crontab -e, by adding '@reboot /path/to/script/scale_display.sh' and it didnt work
[12:58] <EriC^^> HexaChop: what's the error say roughly?
[12:59] <ioria> australopithecus, i'd use a lightdm hook
[13:00] <australopithecus> how do i do that ioria?
[13:00] <ioria> australopithecus, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Adding_System_Hooks
[13:00] <HexaChop> The partition table format in use on your disks normally requires you to create a separate partition for boot loader code. This partition should be marked for use as an efi boot partition and should be at least 35mb... EriC^^.
[13:00] <EriC^^> HexaChop: oh damn
[13:00] <EriC^^> my bad..
[13:00] <EriC^^> HexaChop: i completely forgot about creating the efi partition
[13:01] <australopithecus> where is the path to the file I need to edit?
[13:01] <HexaChop> EriC^^, don't do that again, please.
[13:01] <EriC^^> HexaChop: lol :P
[13:01] <australopithecus> ok nvm lol
[13:01] <EriC^^> HexaChop: can you go back to the partition table screen?
[13:01] <australopithecus> sorry ioria, also thank you for your help
[13:02] <HexaChop> EriC^^, Yep.
[13:02] <ioria> australopithecus, ok
[13:02] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ok, make a 300mb partition type efi
[13:03] <australopithecus> Do I edit this file /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/*.conf file ioria right? It gives two options
[13:03] <amrmondy> hello
[13:04] <HexaChop> EriC^^, done it is of 1GB.
[13:04] <australopithecus> oh you just make a file got it
[13:04] <EriC^^> HexaChop: that's huge
[13:04] <amrmondy> Hello
[13:04] <amrmondy> anyone here ?
[13:04] <HexaChop> EriC^^, my PC is huge.
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> amrmondy  type    /n
[13:05] <EriC^^> HexaChop: lol :D
[13:05] <Speiros> Hello amrmondy
[13:05] <cfhowlett> amrmondy, ask your ubuntu questions
[13:05] <Speiros> Lots of us here.
[13:05] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ok, continue with the install
[13:05] <amrmondy> really i am happy for this support
[13:05] <amrmondy> nice jop guys
[13:05] <amrmondy> BTW i am from Egypt
[13:06] <Speiros> :)  How can we help?  Welcome to you from Australia here:)
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> amrmondy  thank you for sharing your deepest feelings with the channel, but confine yourself to actual ubuntu questions
[13:06] <amrmondy> guys do you know about Docker Containers ?
[13:06] <amrmondy> ?
[13:07] <ff_> ~a
[13:08] <cfhowlett> !details | amrmondy "does anyone ...?" questions are a huge waste of time.  be specific.  be concise.  state your issues.
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> amrmondy  there's also the channel    #docker
[13:08] <rodolfo> Speiros I guess I'll have to wait. I've just been told by a friend those devs from the Gnome channel are less likely to answer. *sigh*
[13:09] <Speiros> rodolfo  Sorry mate.  I did find though an old terminal command, but I tried it and it didn't work on my computer.
[13:09] <rodolfo> Speiros, what is it?
[13:09] <HexaChop> EriC^^, are u a dev or something?
[13:09] <Speiros> It's on this article.  There's a couple of them.  http://superuser.com/questions/159290/finding-a-directory-in-a-linux-terminal
[13:09] <ioria> australopithecus, "if you want to override the system configured default session  you should make a file /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-myconfig.conf"
[13:10] <EriC^^> HexaChop: nope
[13:10] <Speiros> EriC^^  Come on mate...we're all "something":D
[13:10] <ioria> australopithecus, inside [SeatDefaults]   and   display-setup-script=command
[13:10] <EriC^^> Speiros: in that sense yeah :D
[13:10] <HexaChop> EriC^^, you should become one
[13:11] <EriC^^> HexaChop: thanks, maybe one day a linux admin or something
[13:12] <HexaChop> EriC^^, np. You solved my issue like it was child's play.
[13:13] <EriC^^> HexaChop: yeah i've done this a couple times before :P
[13:13] <ff_> ~infobot
[13:13] <EriC^^> you still have some stuff to do after the install though, so it always boots and the graphics are nice
[13:14] <lieber> hi
[13:14] <Rod_> Speiros Are you using the latest Gnome version?
[13:14] <lieber> angone?
[13:14] <lieber> anyone?
[13:15] <kk4ewt> lieber what
[13:15] <Speiros> Rod_I doubt it, although I updated.
[13:15] <EriC^^> HexaChop: once it installs, reboot with nouveau.modeset=0 again, and then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:16] <HexaChop> EriC^^, how?
[13:17] <EriC^^> HexaChop: hold shift to get grub, then press "e" and add it in the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz ... quiet splash instead of quiet splash then press ctrl+x
[13:18] <EriC^^> HexaChop: you also might need to choose a different graphics driver, if you press on the dash and type drivers you'll get a program that shows what drivers you can try out, there's always the one at the nvidia site in case nothing works out
[13:20] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:21] <HexaChop> EriC^^, what to do with quiet splash?
[13:22] <EriC^^> HexaChop: remove it and put nouveau.modeset=0
[13:22] <Speiros> Hi BluesKaj  Is all well?
[13:23] <BluesKaj> hi Speiros, all is well here, and you?
[13:23] <HexaChop> EriC^^, what's next?
[13:24] <Speiros> BluesKaj Yes:)  Do you have a question regarding your Ubuntu, or just keen to look on?
[13:24] <EriC^^> HexaChop: press ctrl+x
[13:24] <Herbalist> all is functioning within established parameters
[13:24] <BluesKaj> Speiros, i'm a regular here
[13:24] <HexaChop> EriC^^ it just adds X letter.
[13:25] <Speiros> BluesKaj Ah, okay.  I"m a newbie, so "sorry 'bout that chief"
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> Speiros  BluesKaj is one of the helpers
[13:25] <Speiros> MonkeyDust Cool:)
[13:26] <EriC^^> HexaChop: try f10
[13:26] <BluesKaj> Speiros, no need to be sorry, good to see users willing to help :-)
[13:26] <HexaChop> EriC^^, booting
[13:26] <Speiros> BluesKaj, Yeah, true.
[13:27] <guiverc> shoutout:  anyone know where I could find b.quigley?  (room, id?)
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> guiverc  use   /msg alis list
[13:27] <HexaChop> EriC^^, booted in but it is blurry.
[13:28] <theo_> I'm on XPS13 and getting tired of DisplayLinkManager running in the background randomly with CPU usage at 15%, is there a fix ?
[13:28] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ok, try ctrl+alt+t then sudo apt-get update
[13:28] <EriC^^> HexaChop: then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:28] <Speiros> MonkeyDust In that command where does the username go?
[13:28] <guiverc> merci/danke/thanks heaps MonkeyDust
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> Speiros  what command?
[13:29] <Speiros> the msg alis list one.  I did it and only got 60 channels.
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> Speiros  try   /msg alis list firefox    <-- just an example
[13:30] <Speiros> MonkeyDust Ok, thanks
[13:30] <HexaChop> EriC^^, could not get lock everywhere
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> alis is a bot, list is the command
[13:30] <EriC^^> HexaChop: try "ps aux | grep dpkg"
[13:30] <Speiros> MonkeyDust Ah, cool.  I see them.
[13:30] <EriC^^> HexaChop: does it look like it's installing something?
[13:31] <EriC^^> HexaChop: i just get this http://termbin.com/d1vp
[13:31] <HexaChop> EriC^^, you are a pro.
[13:32] <l0llip0p> !ping
[13:32] <HexaChop> EriC^^ it tells me to run apt-get -f install
[13:32] <Speiros> MonkeyDust That command is good for finding a channel; is there one for finding a nick?
[13:32] <Australoptihecus> hello I resized my desktop with xrandr -s command and added to start up now I have the problem that I cant reduce the size of my top bar by less tan 17, so it looks huge, I dont want to just delete as I am worried it might mess with my set up, see:  http://imgur.com/a/Oeynu
[13:33] <EriC^^> HexaChop: try running that
[13:33] <Australoptihecus> than*
[13:33] <EriC^^> Speiros: /whois <nick>
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> Speiros  finding a nick inside a channel? use tab completion
[13:33] <Speiros> EriC^^ Okay.
[13:34] <HexaChop> EriC^^, installing.
[13:34] <Australoptihecus> I am using ubuntu MATE 16.1
[13:34] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ok
[13:34] <Speiros> Cool, I found me.
[13:34] <Speiros> I was lost, but now I'm found.
[13:34] <HexaChop> !ping
[13:35] <EriC^^> Speiros: :D
[13:35] <HexaChop> Speiros, :DDDDDDDDDDDD
[13:35] <Speiros> HexaChop I think ubottu has a reputation of winning, normally 7:6
[13:36] <HexaChop> Speiros, nope, I won 20:7
[13:36] <schneider> I'm on Linux Mint 18.1 Serena with MATE, not ubuntu but I dont know where to ask. I cant figure out how to set monitor contrast on my laptop. Can someone help me?
[13:36] <Speiros> HexaChop Ok...no comment as I didn't see the match.
[13:36] <Speiros> :P
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> schneider  mint is  ot supported here
[13:36] <MonkeyDust> not*
[13:37] <cfhowlett> !mint | schneider
[13:37] <HexaChop> Speiros, hehe.
[13:37] <schneider> cfhowlett thanks
[13:37] <cfhowlett> happy2help! schneider
[13:38] <HexaChop> EriC^^, tried installing package manager, it throws me with this: the package system is broken.
[13:39] <EriC^^> HexaChop: what? O.o
[13:39] <EriC^^> HexaChop: did you checksum the iso?
[13:39] <HexaChop> Check rhird party repositories and disable them
[13:39] <HexaChop> It says
[13:40] <HexaChop> Eric^^ ^
[13:40] <Australoptihecus> where are the top pannel settings saved in gnome 2?
[13:41] <Speiros> Australoptihecus, Here's a link I found which might help: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/208/panel-settings/
[13:42] <Australoptihecus> thanks speiros s
[13:42] <EriC^^> HexaChop: try "sudo apt-get -f install | nc termbin.com 9999"
[13:42] <Speiros> :)
[13:42] <HexaChop> EriC^^, 9999, too?
[13:42] <Naive_Pixie> hello
[13:43] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: hello
[13:43] <Naive_Pixie> I'm having trouble with something on linux. it's really frustrating me and nothing I have found online has fixed it yet!
[13:43] <Speiros> What is it?
[13:44] <Naive_Pixie>  Type 'sudo' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list
[13:44] <Naive_Pixie> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[13:44] <EriC^^> HexaChop: yup
[13:44] <EriC^^> HexaChop: paste the link it gives you here
[13:45] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: could you show "ls -al /etc/apt/souces.list.d/spotify.list" put it in paste bin
[13:45] <Naive_Pixie> I'm pretty new to this and from what I've read and tried I'm not the only one who's done it. but it's frustrating because I don't know how on earth to fix it. I can't open Ubuntu software or the updater either
[13:45] <Naive_Pixie> okay, one sec
[13:45] <HexaChop> I typed in sudo get-apt dis-upgrade  -f
[13:46] <ioria> Naive_Pixie, http://askubuntu.com/questions/667801/type-sudo-is-not-known-in-source-list
[13:46] <Naive_Pixie> "ls -al /etc/apt/souces.list.d/spotify.list" ... ?
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> Naive_Pixie  it may be policy kit related
[13:48] <Naive_Pixie> I need someone to talk me through how to fix it, I'm finding instructions online difficult to follow
[13:48] <HexaChop> EriC^^, look up. ^^^
[13:49] <Speiros> Naive_Pixie :)  It can be frustrating.
[13:49] <Naive_Pixie> @MonkeyDust what does policy kit related mean exactly?
[13:50] <Naive_Pixie> Speiros it is haha! but I was slowly getting kinda good at it until I tried to install spotify.
[13:50] <EriC^^> HexaChop: it has typos, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> Naive_Pixie  it's a service you can enable or disable, searching now where and how
[13:50] <MOUD> Hey all
[13:50] <Koskoz> Hi, I've got a network issue. I'm using the wifi, I'm not able to access any urls nor to ping them. But I can ping IPs. If I'm trying to reach an ip in the browser I only have the page's title loading.
[13:50] <HexaChop> EriC^^, it worked with the -f.
[13:50] <Speiros> Naive_Pixie Yeah, there are many factors eh.
[13:51] <EriC^^> HexaChop: cool
[13:51] <EriC^^> HexaChop: try opening the dash and typing drivers
[13:51] <Speiros> Koskoz How are you browsing?
[13:51] <Koskoz> Speiros: chrome or Firefox
[13:51] <treehug88> Koskoz also sounds like your DNS lookups aren't working
[13:52] <HexaChop> Eric^^, I hope that these drivers will have no interference with my Windows drivers...
[13:52] <Naive_Pixie> yeah hopefully I can fix it soon I've tried a few things but they all required sudo but it's not recognizing sudo as a 'thing' for lack of a better term
[13:53] <HexaChop> EriC^^, I can't find dash program.
[13:53] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: Did you follow the instructions from spotify's page?
[13:53] <Koskoz> Treehug88: I tried setting 8.8.8.8 in the network manager but that doesn't work either
[13:53] <Naive_Pixie> Yup to the best of my knowledge I followed the instructions exactly Lollipop
[13:53] <EriC^^> HexaChop: it's the first icon in the launcher on the left
[13:54] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: what ubuntu version do you use?
[13:54] <Speiros> HexaChop The swirly button top left
[13:54] <Naive_Pixie> 14.04
[13:54] <treehug88> Koskoz look at this: http://www.tecmint.com/8-linux-nslookup-commands-to-troubleshoot-dns-domain-name-server/
[13:54] <HexaChop> EriC^^, k, there is Additional Drivers and Software & Updates.
[13:55] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ok click on additional drivers
[13:55] <MOUD> I'm trying to update all my ubuntu software and O.S. using Ubuntu Software, but whenever I click install, it seems to start installing, then the progress bar will get stuck at around 20%, after several minutes the option "install" is clickable again. Is there a fix?
[13:55] <treehug88> MOUD check the logs
[13:55] <MOUD> treehug88, where are the logs?
[13:55] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: hmn .. Have thought about upgrading your system?
[13:55] <HexaChop> EriC^^ what next?
[13:56] <treehug88> MOUD start with /var/log/system.log (I think that's what it's called on ubuntu/debian
[13:56] <Naive_Pixie> I wouldn't have a clue how to do that. and right now this is all I hav
[13:56] <Naive_Pixie> have
[13:56] <HexaChop> EriC^^, my PC needed to restart to apply updates.
[13:57] <cfhowlett> MOUD, what verion of ubuntu are you on?
[13:57] <Speiros> Naive_Pixie You mentioned being walked through this, according to the instructions on the page.  Are you happy to go through it one step at a time?
[13:57] <HexaChop> EriC^^, now all I see is a black screen...
[13:57] <EriC^^> HexaChop: aha, press ctrl+alt+del
[13:57] <EriC^^> HexaChop: actually
[13:57] <Naive_Pixie> Yes Speiros that's exactly what would help :)
[13:57] <EriC^^> hold that thought, try ctrl+alt+f1
[13:58] <Speiros> Naive_Pixie I don't know what you're doing, but at least we can log what is happening along the way, and someone else can help.
[13:58] <Koskoz> In /etc/network/interfaces I only got two lines: iface lo and auto lo
[13:58] <Speiros> Ok.
[13:58] <HexaChop> EriC^^, screen is black, mate.
[13:58] <Koskoz> Should I have something related to wifi?
[13:58] <Speiros> Let me back up, and we'll go through form the beginning.
[13:58] <EriC^^> HexaChop: np, try ctrl+alt+del then hold shift to get grub
[13:58] <Naive_Pixie> I can copy paste the issue I'm having,
[13:58] <Naive_Pixie> it's in my terminal.
[13:58] <HexaChop> EriC^^, I am in grub now.
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> Naive_Pixie  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[13:59] <HexaChop> EriC^^, nouveau.modset=0 again?
[13:59] <Speiros> Naive_Pixie, Yes, please upload it to the link MonkeyDust just typed.
[14:00] <Naive_Pixie> yes I've been on there Monkey, usually I can work it out but right now either the script on there isn't working or I'm using the wrong one or just doing it wrong somehow
[14:00] <Naive_Pixie> oh you mean upload it to the site?
[14:00] <Speiros> Yes:)
[14:00] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: yes and give us the url for your pastes
[14:00] <Speiros> That way people don't get code congestion...if there's such an expression.
[14:00] <Naive_Pixie> okay hang on
[14:01] <MOUD> cfhowlett, 16.04
[14:01] <Speiros> If not code-congestion(C)
[14:01] <Speiros> :D
[14:01] <Speiros> Just kidding
[14:01] <cfhowlett> MOUD, let's leave the graphical update for now.  more info will be available from using the terminal so open one up
[14:02] <MOUD> cfhowlett, it's open
[14:02] <EriC^^> HexaChop: yup
[14:02] <HexaChop> EriC^^ why it takes forever to load?
[14:02] <cfhowlett> MOUD, sudo apt update | pastebinit && sudo apt full-upgrade | pastebinit
[14:03] <MOUD> cfhowlett, need to install pastebin
[14:03] <cfhowlett> MOUD, nope         sudo apt update | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:03] <EriC^^> HexaChop: does it mention any errors?
[14:03] <HexaChop> EriC^^, i get a lot of code then a huge 00 type code and repeats.
[14:04] <EriC^^> HexaChop: aha
[14:04] <Naive_Pixie> ah
[14:04] <Naive_Pixie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23764254/
[14:04] <Speiros> Naive_Pixie, Excellent:)
[14:05] <Naive_Pixie> I think I've successfully done what you meant!
[14:05] <Speiros> Yes
[14:05] <MOUD> cfhowlett, it's stuck in the first line: "http://termbin.com/ix94"
[14:05] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: It says that you dont have spotify.list in your repositories
[14:05] <yeats> Naive_Pixie: remove the "." before /etc
[14:05] <Naive_Pixie> oh also, my Ubuntu Software Center is refusing to open, and the updater isn't working either.
[14:06] <Eddard> please help me
[14:06] <Eddard> my ub8untu
[14:06] <Eddard> going to sick
[14:06] <EriC^^> HexaChop: we'll deal with it later, first thing getting the driver working and maybe it'll solve it too
[14:06] <cfhowlett> !help | Eddard
[14:06] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: I think they are going to work after we fix this
[14:06] <EriC^^> HexaChop: when it boots type "sudo ubuntu-drivers list | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:07] <Naive_Pixie> okay so I need to remove the ".", anything else?
[14:07] <Naive_Pixie> Lollipop that sounds good to me!
[14:07] <cfhowlett> MOUD, is this kali OS
[14:07] <Speiros> Naive_Pixie, The problems may be all related
[14:07] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: Could you show us "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"
[14:07] <Eddard> help me to fix my ubuntu 16.04 LTs , stuck in login menu? please answer fast because im going to sick
[14:07] <MOUD> cfhowlett, no, Ubuntu 16.04 but I added the Kali repositories.
[14:08] <EriC^^> Eddard: does the guest account work?
[14:08] <yeats> Naive_Pixie: did you try the sed command again? (I would recommend removing the "-i" so it doesn't actually edit the file until you know it's going to work)
[14:08] <cfhowlett> MOUD, well, if it's sticking on line one, I suspect the mirror might be down for the moment.  try a different mirror
[14:08] <Speiros> Eddard We will try to answer you as best as we can, but speed isn't recommended as errors happen when people rush.  It'll be okay.
[14:08] <Naive_Pixie> one sec guys one thing at a time. lollipop I'm pasting it now :) then I'll try you're idea yeats
[14:08] <yeats> MOUD: bad idea to mix repos from different distros
[14:08] <MOUD> cfhowlett, shouldn't ubuntu just skip if it's not on?
[14:09] <cfhowlett> MOUD, depends
[14:09] <MOUD> yeats, I didn't know. But I wanted some programs that are available on kali, that's why I added the repo.
[14:09] <Naive_Pixie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23764373/
[14:10] <MOUD> cfhowlett, so what do you recommend?
[14:10] <yeats> MOUD: yeah, that's not the way to do it - look for Ubuntu PPAs for the individual apps or install from source
[14:10] <yeats> MOUD: or just try out kali separately
[14:10] <cfhowlett> moud what HE said.
[14:10] <Speiros> Hmmm, line 16?
[14:10] <cfhowlett> MOUD, but to your specific issue, switch mirrors
[14:10] <MOUD> yeats, cfhowlett, ok, will do that later.
[14:11] <MOUD> cfhowlett, ok, I'll check.
[14:11] <Eddard> ok i will waiting for the best answer and hope the answer fix my problems
[14:11] <EriC^^> Eddard: does the guest account work?
[14:11] <cfhowlett> MOUD, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[14:11] <HexaChop> Im back
[14:11] <EriC^^> HexaChop: wb
[14:11] <Eddard> nope
[14:12] <HexaChop> EriC^^, my tablet shut off.
[14:12] <Naive_Pixie> Yeats: it came up with unknown command
[14:12] <EriC^^> Eddard: is it a fresh install or it worked before?
[14:12] <EriC^^> HexaChop: np
[14:12] <Speiros> l0llip0p, What are your thoughts on line 16?
[14:12] <Eddard> fresh install
[14:12] <Naive_Pixie> Lollipop: did you get my paste?'
[14:12] <EriC^^> HexaChop: try "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:12] <HexaChop> EriC^^, maybe yo
[14:13] <Speiros> Naive_Pixie, Your paste was clear:)
[14:13] <EriC^^> Eddard: does ctrl+alt+f1 work?
[14:13] <HexaChop> EriC^^, I can't get past grub again.
[14:13] <EriC^^> HexaChop: why not?
[14:13] <Eddard> it does
[14:13] <Naive_Pixie> so basically the script that is on Ubuntu help doesn't work and I have no idea why
[14:13] <EriC^^> Eddard: type "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link it gives you here
[14:14] <HexaChop> EriC^^, I get a lot of text then 00 55 type code and repeats as an infinite cycle.
[14:14] <Eddard> ill try
[14:14] <EriC^^> HexaChop: can you take a screenshot of it?
[14:14] <HexaChop> EriC^^, ok.
[14:14] <Speiros> Naive_Pixie, I can see a typo on line 16, but I'm not sure whether it's an intentional one, or actually a typo.
[14:14] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ok, cool
[14:15] <yeats> Naive_Pixie: can you pastebin the command you ran and the full output?
[14:15] <Naive_Pixie> yup gimmie a sec yeats
[14:16] <Naive_Pixie> and speiros if you tell me what code to try step by step I'll do it
[14:16] <MOUD> cfhowlett, do I need to add the deb-src too?
[14:16] <cfhowlett> MOUD, not unless you are working with source code
[14:16] <MOUD> cfhowlett, no then.
[14:16] <Speiros> Naive_Pixie, I'm not experienced enough to guide you through code, but as a team others on here can help with their experience.
[14:17] <essence_> hey
[14:17] <essence_> I have a question
[14:17] <Eddard> it says http://termbin.com/uzy9
[14:17] <essence_> I can't use n mode on my wife connection
[14:17] <Eddard> what should i do ?
[14:17] <essence_> how do I activate it
[14:17] <Naive_Pixie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23764437/
[14:17] <beeman> hi
[14:18] <HexaChop> EriC^^, imgur is not working for me for some reason.
[14:18] <essence_> can anyone help me
[14:18] <beeman> does anyone use ubuntu on virtual machine and it runs fast?
[14:18] <beeman> On mine it's very slow
[14:18] <EriC^^> Eddard: it looks clean without errors
[14:18] <Naive_Pixie> hold up, I'll try it without the '.' before the 'bak'?
[14:18] <EriC^^> Eddard: try "DISPLAY=:1 startx unity"
[14:18] <EriC^^> Eddard: see what it says
[14:19] <yeats> Naive_Pixie: sorry, put the "-i" back so that it reads "-i.bak" again - I just consulted the sed docs (cool, I didn't know you could do that)
[14:19] <EriC^^> HexaChop: try postimage.org
[14:20] <Naive_Pixie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23764442/
[14:20] <EriC^^> or tinypic.com
[14:20] <Eddard> it says X.Org X Server 1.18.3
[14:20] <Eddard> Release Date: 2016-04-04
[14:20] <Eddard> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[14:20] <Eddard> Build Operating System: Linux 3.13.0-95-generic x86_64 Ubuntu
[14:20] <Eddard> Current Operating System: Linux Robot 4.4.0-57-generic #78~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Sat Dec 10 00:14:47 UTC 2016 x86_64
[14:20] <Eddard> Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-57-generic root=UUID=952ff627-de6d-4d85-b105-fe1a011cf27e ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[14:20] <beeman> help me
[14:20] <Naive_Pixie> oh okay cool I'll re try it with that again. do I still leave out the '.' before /etc?
[14:20] <yeats> beeman: many factors to consider (virtualization platform, host specs, how much you're allocating, etc.)
[14:20] <EriC^^> Eddard: does it end with any errors?
[14:21] <beeman> yeats: for example press windows key it's become lag(slow) for a few seconds
[14:21] <EriC^^> Eddard: if you could somehow paste it in paste.ubuntu.com that would be great (btw how did you manage to paste that here from ctrl+alt+f1?)
[14:22] <yeats> Naive_Pixie: yes, if you're trying to change the actual file ("." in this instance means "the path starts in the current directory")
[14:22] <Eddard> sorry im noob
[14:22] <Naive_Pixie> Same message as just before,
[14:22] <EriC^^> beeman: what are the specs of the pc and which ubuntu version?
[14:22] <beeman> Eddard: use the website to paste and paste the new link... don't spam
[14:22] <EriC^^> beeman: how much ram did you give the ubuntu vm?
[14:23] <beeman> EriC^^: i7-4710hq, 16gb ram <-- on host
[14:23] <yeats> beeman: and what is the host's OS?
[14:23] <HexaChop> EriC^^, https://drive.google.com/drive/u/6/mobile/folders/0B6mJmT6oWmcxcEZsOWpRVXM1eDA?sort=13&direction=a
[14:23] <beeman> yeats: windows 8.1 64 bits. is it bad?
[14:23] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: Can you paste 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list' I think there might be wrong link
[14:23] <Naive_Pixie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23764450/
[14:23] <EriC^^> beeman: how much ram did you give ubuntu? and graphics how much memory?
[14:23] <Naive_Pixie> okay hang on
[14:23] <yeats> beeman: asking whether Windows is bad in this channel probably won't yield helpful answers :-)
[14:24] <Eddard> im out
[14:24] <beeman> EriC^^: 1GB ram, graphics I dont know :O
[14:24] <EriC^^> virtualbox?
[14:24] <beeman> vmware
[14:24] <yeats> Naive_Pixie: "-i.bak" (you're missing the .)
[14:24] <beeman> VMware
[14:24] <EriC^^> beeman: which ubuntu version?
[14:25] <HexaChop> EriC^^, take a look in google email.
[14:25] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ok, checking
[14:25] <beeman> EriC^^: 16.04.1 LTS xenial
[14:25] <HexaChop> EriC^^, ok.
[14:26] <Naive_Pixie> ahhhh
[14:26] <beeman> what?????
[14:26] <Naive_Pixie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23764481/
[14:26] <Naive_Pixie> Progress? I think?
[14:26] <beeman> what?????
[14:27] <Speiros> Nice.  Looking like it.
[14:27] <MOUD> cfhowlett, I'm currently running  "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade". Let's hope it works.
[14:27] <MOUD> thanks cfhowlett, yeats, treehug88, for the help.
[14:27] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: oh .... :D yeah if that is whole output
[14:27] <yeats> Naive_Pixie: btw, general unsolicited advice - you might be a happier Ubuntu/Linux user if you spend some time learning command line basics - many many tutorials on the web
[14:27] <beeman> Anyone got ubuntu to work good in vmware?
[14:27] <cfhowlett> happy2help! moud
[14:28] <Naive_Pixie> yeah thats what it spat out :D
[14:28] <cfhowlett> beeman, virtualbox is the goto solution
[14:28] <beeman> cfhowlett: no. bye
[14:28] <yeats> beeman: I would recommend using VirtualBox instead (though I'm kind of choking recommending an oracle product)
[14:28] <beeman> yeats: no. bye
[14:28] <Naive_Pixie> yeah Yeats I've been working on it, only been using it for a few months and it's the first time I've actually needed any real help so I think I'm getting there :D
[14:28] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ok, try a few times to boot it, it might boot up once every 10 tries or so
[14:28] <one8080> ok
[14:29] <EriC^^> HexaChop: once it boots, we'll follow the advice in that thread about fixing it
[14:29] <HexaChop> Yeats, what oracle is bad?
[14:29] <beeman> EriC^^: respond?
[14:29] <MOUD> Another thing, how can I install kubuntu interface so I can switch between ubuntu and kubuntu interfaces?
[14:29] <beeman> MOUD: what is kubuntu interface?
[14:29] <Naive_Pixie> So Lollipop, what do I need to do now?
[14:29] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: You could remove spotify.list inside /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[14:29] <MOUD> beeman, I believe it's KDE 5.6, not sure
[14:30] <BluesKaj> beeman, KDE/plasma desktop for ubuntu
[14:30] <beeman> https://askubuntu.com/questions/417/how-do-i-install-kde
[14:30] <beeman> MOUD: this??
[14:30] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: but Im not sure if that is the right way approach it
[14:30] <EriC^^> beeman: no idea, it should run somewhat smoothly (still with some lag)
[14:30] <beeman> EriC^^: do you use vmware?
[14:30] <Naive_Pixie> hmmm
[14:30] <EriC^^> beeman: try virtualbox maybe?
[14:30] <l0llip0p> It has work on me sometimes
[14:30] <EriC^^> beeman: also give it more ram, like 2gb
[14:31] <beeman> virtualbox uses a key and mine is broken
[14:31] <MOUD> beeman, yes, that seems to be the one, thanks.
[14:31] <Guest76835> hello to everyone can someone tell me a terminal comand to install amd proprietary drivers in ubuntu 16.04?thank you very much
[14:31] <EriC^^> 1gb is low for ubuntu
[14:31] <EriC^^> beeman: more ram for the vm might fix it
[14:31] <beeman> how much?
[14:31] <EriC^^> give it 2.4gb or so
[14:31] <l0llip0p> Speiros: is it okay for apt to remove things from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[14:31] <beeman> !help
[14:31] <beeman> !help Guest76835
[14:32] <Speiros> l0llip0p, I don't know what can and can't be removed I'm afraid.
[14:32] <kk4ewt> !amd | Guest76835
[14:32] <beeman> Guest76835: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[14:32] <beeman> Speiros: remove what??
[14:32] <l0llip0p> Speiros: okay thanks
[14:32] <beeman> !ask | Speiros
[14:32] <beeman> kk4ewt: stop spam?
[14:32] <yeats> l0llip0p: yes, but it might be easier to just comment out the lines in the file (add a # at the beginning of the line if you're not familiar)
[14:32] <Speiros> beeman Huh?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> l0llip0p, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ is normally where ppa sources are stored
[14:33] <Naive_Pixie> So.. I found the filre,
[14:33] <beeman> Speiros: remove what?
[14:33] <Naive_Pixie> but I cannot delete it
[14:33] <l0llip0p> yeats, BluesKaj : thank you
[14:33] <Speiros> beeman <l0llip0p> Speiros: is it okay for apt to remove things from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[14:33] <Speiros> beeman this is relating to Naive_Pixie's issue that is being worked on.
[14:33] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: yeah you need to be super user for it
[14:33] <beeman> oh you ask him specifically
[14:33] <HexaChop> EriC^^, I was typing in the command wrong. The biggest FACEPALM in the world.
[14:33] <beeman> he will answer you then
[14:34] <Naive_Pixie> how do I do that?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> Speiros,you can't remove that file but onme can delete ppa sources from it
[14:34] <Speiros> Naive_Pixie, Are you logged into your admin account?  Or the main one?
[14:34] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: in terminal
[14:34] <BluesKaj> onme=one
[14:34] <EriC^^> HexaChop: :D
[14:34] <Naive_Pixie> I have zero idea how to know that
[14:34] <HexaChop> EriC^^, what should I do after booting?
[14:34] <Speiros> BluesKaj Okay.
[14:34] <EriC^^> HexaChop: run "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:34] <beeman> HexaChop: which ubuntu you install?
[14:35] <Speiros> Naive_Pixie, If you have only one account on your computer, it is Admin.
[14:35] <HexaChop> Beeman, latest.
[14:35] <beeman> HexaChop: on vmware?
[14:35] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: first open terminal ( write into search) 2. paste this command: cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[14:35] <MOUD> Is Ubuntu 17.04 out?
[14:35] <HexaChop> Beeman, no, normally.
[14:35] <beeman> you guys
[14:35] <Speiros> Naive_Pixie, l0llip0p's suggestions will work.
[14:36] <Naive_Pixie> okay I've done that, it came up with "no such file or directory...
[14:36] <Naive_Pixie> wait its not cd its cat
[14:36] <Speiros> Naive_Pixie, To open terminal, press on the big button on the top left (or press the equivalent of the old windows key on your keyboard), and you can type in there "terminal".
[14:36] <Speiros> Oh, cool.
[14:36] <Speiros> Sorry
[14:36] <hackal> Can a bash script change nginx configuration file? If yes how would you do it?
[14:37] <beeman> EriC^^: did you use vmware?
[14:37] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: okay run 'pwd' inside terminal and give output to us (just to be sure)
[14:37] <beeman> EriC^^: (continue) I just want to know
[14:37] <EriC^^> beeman: no, just virtualbox
[14:37] <Mr-Potter> Hi if you wanna make money online please click here: http://rewardsempire.com/?ref=24647
[14:37] <beeman> no
[14:37] <Naive_Pixie> it just came up with my /home/(personal name)
[14:38] <beeman> dont go in
[14:38] <beeman> fuck harry potter
[14:38] <Naive_Pixie> as in normal home file path
[14:38] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: okay then do: 'cd /etc/apt/'
[14:38] <BluesKaj> Mr-Potter, no spams please
[14:38] <beeman> BluesKaj: ban him
[14:39] <beeman> he is making money of us
[14:39] <Speiros> Naive_Pixie, What is happening is we're looking at what is in your files there.
[14:39] <HexaChop> http://termbin.com/ebjl, Eric^^.
[14:39] <Naive_Pixie> lollipop it says no such file or directory
[14:39] <cfhowlett> beeman, no profanity please
[14:39] <Mr-Potter> BluesKaj: I'm sorry, where is spam allowed?
[14:39] <beeman> cfhowlett: he is making money of us
[14:39] <cfhowlett> Mr-Potter, go away, no spam here.
[14:39] <BluesKaj> not here
[14:39] <beeman> shame on you
[14:39] <Naive_Pixie> okay I've got something for you now Lollipop
[14:39] <cfhowlett> beeman, understood but no profanity anyway
[14:39] <beeman> cfhowlett how do you ignore him?
[14:40] <cfhowlett> beeman, /ignore nickname
[14:40] <Naive_Pixie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23764557/
[14:40] <beeman> cfhowlett: did you use VMware?
[14:40] <HexaChop> EriC^^, are you there, mate?
[14:40] <cfhowlett> beeman, virtualbox only
[14:40] <Naive_Pixie> that was just a guess.. let me know what next
[14:40] <EriC^^> HexaChop: which graphics card do you have? try "lspci | grep VGA | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:41] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: XD yeah put cd in front of that sentence
[14:41] <l0llip0p> cd means 'chance directory'
[14:41] <HexaChop> EriC^^, I am a PC geek. 2x ASUS STRIX 1070.
[14:41] <Speiros> change:)
[14:42] <EriC^^> HexaChop: try "dpkg -l | grep intel-microcode"
[14:42] <david33> ops
[14:42] <Speiros> typo...about the only thing I can pick out.
[14:42] <Naive_Pixie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23764565/
[14:42] <david33> hi
[14:43] <beeman> hi david
[14:43] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: and separate cd and /etc/ whit ' '
[14:43] <HexaChop> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/2lu0
[14:43] <l0llip0p> Speiros: thanks I'm really bad at languages :)
[14:43] <HexaChop> Is Ioria here?
[14:43] <Speiros> l0llip0p, :) You're great at guiding though.
[14:44] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ok
[14:44] <beeman> HexaChop: how is this relevant?
[14:44] <EriC^^> HexaChop: does "additional drivers" show anything about the graphics cards?
[14:44] <HexaChop> beeman, what exactly? http://termbin.com/2lu0
[14:44] <HexaChop> this? It is for EriC^^.
[14:45] <Naive_Pixie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23764583/
[14:45] <Naive_Pixie> :D :D
[14:45] <HexaChop> EriC^^ Where to look?
[14:46] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: omg XDD okay lets try different approach
[14:46] <beeman> what Naive_Pixie is trying to do?
[14:46] <EriC^^> HexaChop: first icon in the launcher
[14:46] <Naive_Pixie> You're doing awesome Lollipop thankyou this is great I am finally getting somewhere. what next?
[14:46] <HexaChop> EriC^^, I know I am in the program. But where to look in the Additional Drivers program?
[14:46] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: open filemanager go to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and right click > choose "open terminal"
[14:47] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: or 'open terminal in this directory'.
[14:47] <EriC^^> HexaChop: in the tab, does it say anything other the broadcom stuff?
[14:48] <HexaChop> EriC^^, nothing else but broadcom and CPU stuff.
[14:48] <EriC^^> HexaChop: is the cpu stuff selected in use?
[14:48] <HexaChop> EriC^^, should I try nforce drivers?
[14:48] <HexaChop> EriC^^, I don't know, mate.
[14:49] <HexaChop> EriC^^, it says "Using" at the front of the name.
[14:49] <BluesKaj> HexaChop, isn't there a recommended driver in the list?
[14:49] <EriC^^> HexaChop: is it selected?
[14:49] <HexaChop> Eric^^, yep.
[14:49] <Naive_Pixie> I'm not sure what I'm meant to right click as it just opens the folder and I can't select that option by right clicking on any of the files
[14:49] <EriC^^> HexaChop: this seems it might work http://askubuntu.com/questions/791439/trouble-installing-ubuntu-16-04-since-i-got-gtx-1070
[14:50] <EriC^^> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-367
[14:50] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ok, try adding the ppa
[14:50] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: I mean that you open menu with clicking the right mouse button
[14:50] <ledeni> HexaChop, can you give us in terminal 'lspci | grep -E "VGA|3D"'
[14:51] <HexaChop> ledeni, give what?
[14:51] <Naive_Pixie> ahh! Gotcha! :) hang on
[14:51] <ledeni> HexaChop,lspci | grep -E "VGA|3D"
[14:52] <Naive_Pixie> Can I PM you for a sec Lollipop?
[14:52] <l0llip0p> Naive_Pixie: sure
[14:52] <Naive_Pixie> thanks
[14:54] <jacks_> hi, i don't see any /dev entry for my microphone, i can use it in audacity/skype the device is "default: Front Mic:0" or dmesg lists it as "HDA Intel PCH Front Mic as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input9" is there a way to create a /dev entry so i can reference it in c/c++?
[14:54] <HexaChop> ledeni, EriC^^: http://termbin.com/bkz5
[14:56] <huma> e
[14:57] <fearnothing> hi guys, I'm having issues mounting shares
[14:57] <fearnothing> every way I try it I get the error 'host is down'
[14:57] <fearnothing> but the host is up, ports are open, other clients can mount the shares
[14:58] <fearnothing> what else might be the cause?
[14:58] <ledeni> HexaChop,ok you have nvidia video card did you boot ubuntu with nouveau driver
[14:58] <kk4ewt> fearnothing,  what is type of share
[14:59] <HexaChop> ledeni, I used nouveau.modeset 0
[14:59] <ledeni> HexaChop,and boot up
[14:59] <fearnothing> kk4ewt - cifs on FreeNAS, but I have tried exposing it as NFS too, exactly the same problem
[15:00] <HexaChop> Speiros, almost 2 days now...
[15:00] <HexaChop> ledeni, your sentence is out of context. I cannot see anything before "and".
[15:01] <Speiros> HexaChop Yeah, progress has been made, which is good.
[15:01] <HexaChop> Speiros, hey, I am talking to you from linux now.
[15:01] <Speiros> HexaChop Exactly:)
[15:01] <kk4ewt> firewall and do you have samba installed
[15:01] <HexaChop> ledeni, what to do before booting up?
[15:02] <fearnothing> kk4ewt - samba is installed, it has worked in the past from this host
[15:02] <ledeni> HexaChop,did you boot up ?
[15:02] <fearnothing> they're on the same subnet, no firewall between
[15:02] <HexaChop> ledeni, I do not know what to do before restarting.
[15:03] <HexaChop> ledeni, because you said "And" boot up, I saw nothing before "And".
[15:03] <EriC^^> ledeni: he used nouveau.modeset=0 and booted up the actual install
[15:03] <fearnothing> if I nmap from my ubuntu host, it can see all of the required ports as open
[15:03] <fearnothing> and it resolves the DNS correctly
[15:03] <HexaChop> EriC^^, ledeni and have to use the same command to boot up every time.
[15:04] <EriC^^> ledeni: any ideas? i found on google that using a ppa with nvidia-367 might help
[15:04] <ledeni> EriC^^, yes
[15:05] <EriC^^> ledeni: it's a good idea?
[15:05] <ledeni> EriC^^, yes
[15:05] <HexaChop> ledeni: I would prefer latest version though.
[15:05] <EriC^^> HexaChop: try sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-367
[15:05] <EriC^^> HexaChop: you mean the one from the nvidia site?
[15:06] <HexaChop> EriC^^ these drivers are very old, mate. nvidia actually has drivers called nforce for linux. Look it up.
[15:06] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ah
[15:06] <ledeni> HexaChop,no that is not good idea
[15:06] <HexaChop> ledeni, why?
[15:07] <ledeni> HexaChop, because overwrite basic ubuntu files
[15:08] <ledeni> HexaChop,do it what EriC^^ said
[15:08] <ledeni> HexaChop, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-367
[15:11] <HexaChop> ledeni, EriC^^, http://termbin.com/xi1a
[15:12] <lodearit> j hi guys i need flash? on i firefox
[15:12] <EriC^^> lodearit: sudo add-apt-repository multiverse && sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:12] <lodearit> how'd I get it? which package, I also wouldn't like chrome , ior chormium it's bad for me
[15:12] <ledeni> HexaChop, sudo apt-get -f install
[15:12] <HexaChop> ledeni, EriC^^, termbin.com is AWESOME.
[15:13] <EriC^^> lodearit: flashplugin-installer
[15:13] <EriC^^> that's the package name
[15:13] <HexaChop> ledeni, it installs nothing.
[15:13] <lodearit> EriC^^: can't i enable the multiverse form the settings?
[15:13] <HexaChop> ledeni, http://termbin.com/uczr
[15:14] <EriC^^> !info libc6-i386
[15:14] <EriC^^> lodearit: yes you can
[15:14] <Speiros> HexaChop It looks updated, but it said it corrected dependencies.
[15:14] <ledeni> HexaChop,  sudo apt-get install nvidia-367
[15:14] <EriC^^> HexaChop: maybe the ppa isn't made for 16.10?
[15:15] <EriC^^> HexaChop: type "grep graphics /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[15:15] <lodearit> I hope it's flash 23 not 11.2
[15:15] <HexaChop> http://termbin.com/37z9
[15:15] <EriC^^> seems like it's demanding stuff not present in 16.10
[15:15] <HexaChop> http://termbin.com/37z9, EriC^^,
[15:16] <HexaChop> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/37z9
[15:16] <EriC^^> nope it has a yakkety menu
[15:16] <EriC^^> HexaChop: try "apt-cache show nvidia-367 | nc termbin.com 9999"
[15:17] <EriC^^> ledeni: won't the repo version of nvidia-367 work?
[15:17] <EriC^^> !info nvidia-367
[15:18] <HexaChop> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/cc6l
[15:18] <ledeni> EriC^^, should
[15:18] <HexaChop> ledeni, http://termbin.com/cc6l
[15:18] <lodearit> EriC^^: why should i install ubuntu restricted extras when i can just install flashplugin-installer
[15:18] <HexaChop> ioria, Hi.
[15:18] <ioria> HexaChop, hey
[15:19] <HexaChop> ioria, at least now I am in linux. I managed to get into it and install it.
[15:19] <ioria> HexaChop,  great
[15:19] <HexaChop> ioria, still a lot left to do though...
[15:19] <HexaChop> EriC^^ is amazing, ioria.
[15:19] <lodearit> EriC^^: ? what do you think?
[15:19] <ioria> HexaChop,  i know .... kinda ?
[15:20] <HexaChop> ioria, I am having GPU problems now.
[15:20] <ioria> HexaChop,  nvidia drivers ?
[15:20] <HexaChop> ioria, exactly.
[15:20] <ioria> HexaChop,  what have you tried
[15:20] <ioria> ?
[15:20] <HexaChop> ledeni, any news?
[15:21] <HexaChop> ioria, I didn't install drivers yet, there's quite a bit we've tried.
[15:21] <HexaChop> nothing seems to work via console, ioria.
[15:22] <HexaChop> ioria, "terminal" rather.
[15:22] <ioria> HexaChop, ok, what have you tried so far ?
[15:22] <serdar> hello
[15:22] <HexaChop> ioria, apt-get thingies, it throws me with this error:
[15:22] <ioria> HexaChop, installing what ?
[15:23] <HexaChop> ioria, http://termbin.com/cc6l NVIDIA drivers. We are trying to installed them to no luck though.
[15:23] <EriC^^> ioria: he's trying to install the driver for nvidia, h can only boot with nomodeset right now
[15:23] <HexaChop> EriC^^, ioria, right.
[15:23] <EriC^^> HexaChop: the ppa nvidia-367 has a dependency listed libc6-i386 but that's not available in 16.10
[15:24] <ioria> HexaChop, 367 form the ubuntu repo ?
[15:24] <ioria> *from
[15:24] <EriC^^> HexaChop: try "apt-cache policy libc6-i386" to see if the ppa provides it
[15:24] <HexaChop> EriC^^, k.
[15:24] <lodearit> https://ptpb.pw/FX-q i did upgrade , but still i get that it just cant can't do it?
[15:24] <EriC^^> ioria: no from a ppa, we were thinking to go the repo 367 route instead, any thoughts?
[15:25] <ioria> EriC^^, why not the last 375 ? from ppa ...
[15:25] <HexaChop> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/39vz
[15:25] <lodearit> I think this will breal a dep in the long run don't want to leave the like that
[15:25] <lodearit> Why does it happpen here , now ?j
[15:25] <EriC^^> ioria: no idea about nvidia drivers, if it's better then by all means :D
[15:26] <AL3XI> A Ka Shqipetar Ketu
[15:26] <ioria> EriC^^, 375 it's just the last added
[15:26] <EriC^^> !info nvidia-375
[15:26] <EriC^^> ioria:  in the graphics-ppa ?
[15:26] <ioria> EriC^^, yup
[15:27] <HexaChop> !ping
[15:27] <ioria> EriC^^, other than that, try the nvidia installer
[15:27] <EriC^^> what's the latest repo one?
[15:27] <serdar> I have issues with nvidia-375
[15:28] <EriC^^> the ppa seems a little broken, http://termbin.com/xi1a
[15:28] <ioria> EriC^^, 367 i think
[15:28] <AL3XI> O Shqipeeeee
[15:28] <AL3XI> Ku Jeni
[15:28] <AL3XI> Pse Nuk Shkruni
[15:28] <serdar> for some reason lightdm is replacing my xorg.conf with a different version
[15:29] <serdar> at every (re)start
[15:29] <serdar> someone know, how I can prohibit that_
[15:29] <HexaChop> Sperios, This is super frustrating again...
[15:30] <HexaChop> Speiros, This is super frustrating again... *
[15:30] <EriC^^> HexaChop: nvidia 367 from the repo, or nvidia 375 from the ppa?
[15:31] <k00l3th4n> serdar: Try to purge/remove lightdm amd re-install.
[15:31] <HexaChop> EriC^^, neither repo nor ppa means anything to me, I do not understand a thing.
[15:31] <Speiros> HexaChop Patience mate.  Think of the wise words of Chicago ♪We've come too far to leave it all behind♪
[15:31] <ioria> HexaChop,  so, it's a fresh install (i guess) did you have problems updating  it ?
[15:31] <Speiros> :D
[15:31] <EriC^^> HexaChop: repo is the one from the official ubuntu repositories, the ppa is an external repository run by someone else
[15:31] <HexaChop> ioria, what do u mean?
[15:31] <HexaChop> Sperios, true.
[15:32] <ioria> HexaChop,  16.10, right ?
[15:32] <HexaChop> Speiros, true. *
[15:32] <HexaChop> ioria, right.
[15:32] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:33] <HexaChop> ioria, http://termbin.com/ktfu
[15:33] <k00l3th4n> How is everyone doinng this morning? Enjoy your Sunday?
[15:33] <Speiros> HexaChop It looks like you have the option of choosing the one on Ubuntu, or the NVIDIA one, is that correct EriC^^ ?
[15:33] <HexaChop> k00l3th4n, it is nearly evening here, mate.
[15:33] <Speiros> Hi k00l3th4n :)
[15:33] <ioria> HexaChop,  if it's a fresh install...  what happened ?
[15:33] <Speiros> 2:30AM here.
[15:34] <k00l3th4n> HexaChop: Well... How is your evening going?
[15:34] <HexaChop> Ioria, already updated maybe?
[15:34] <k00l3th4n> Speiros: Hello mate.
[15:34] <Speiros> :)
[15:34] <HexaChop> k00l3th4n, not very well, linux problems, mate.
[15:34] <ioria> HexaChop,  this was caused by the nvidia drivers ?
[15:34] <EriC^^> Speiros: oh, no that is an option though too
[15:35] <HexaChop> ioria, Don't... really... know...
[15:35] <EriC^^> HexaChop: nvidia 367 from the repo, or nvidia 375 from the ppa, or the nvidia one from their website
[15:35] <k00l3th4n> HexaChop: What issues are you having. Maybe I can help.
[15:35] <Speiros> EriC^^ Ah, okay.
[15:35] <HexaChop> k00l3th4n can't install Nvidia drivers.
[15:35] <ioria> HexaChop,  so, try to purge nvidia and reboot   sudo apt-get purge nvidia+
[15:35] <ioria> HexaChop,  so, try to purge nvidia and reboot   sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[15:35] <EriC^^> ioria: he hasn't installed nvidia yet
[15:36] <Dreaman> EriC^^  why repo oficial work good in ubuntu
[15:36] <ioria> HexaChop,  dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[15:36] <EriC^^> Dreaman: he wants latest drivers
[15:36] <k00l3th4n> HexaChop: Oh man! yeah, that can be a pain in the ass. I think it took me a couple of days last time I had that problem.
[15:36] <Dreaman> is not good idea
[15:36] <Dreaman> but
[15:37] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ioria maybe it's half installed
[15:37] <k00l3th4n> HexaChop: You are gonna have to download the driver and install from command line without xorg.
[15:37] <HexaChop> ioria, I don't have pastebinit.
[15:37] <ioria> HexaChop,  dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:37] <hunter> hey
[15:38] <HexaChop> ioria says use netcat.
[15:38] <serdar> k00l3th4n: I did that right now, but the result is the same
[15:38] <tchnq> Hi all. Is there a way to force Unity Dash open application list first instead of last files or etc. ?
[15:38] <EriC^^> tchnq: there's the shortcut super+a incase it helps
[15:38] <k00l3th4n> HexaChop: Can you pastebin your errors. That way I can maybe help.
[15:38] <serdar> and then I get the black screen
[15:39] <tchnq> EriC^^, awesome! What about mouse click?
[15:39] <HexaChop> k00l3th4n, I can't use neither termbin nor pastebin.
[15:39] <Speiros> HexaChop Why?
[15:39] <EriC^^> tchnq: no idea, there's right click > applications just found that :)
[15:40] <HexaChop> k00l3th4n, speiros, it asks me to use netcat.
[15:40] <Speiros> HexaChop Ok.
[15:40] <tchnq> EriC^^, :D discoveries :))
[15:40] <HexaChop> k00l3th4n, speiros, it asks me to use netcat (termbin).
[15:40] <EriC^^> tchnq: haha :D
[15:40] <tchnq> And I wanted to ask as well is there a nice resource in a web to build my own ubuntu
[15:41] <k00l3th4n> HexaChop: That's weird for sure. Never had that issue before.
[15:41] <EriC^^> HexaChop: try dpkg -l | grep nvidia | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[15:41] <tchnq> Because I am using default ubuntu build from site.
[15:41] <tchnq> Everyone says I am newb >_<
[15:41] <BluesKaj> !minimal | tchnq
[15:41] <HexaChop> EriC^^, finally, http://sprunge.us/NNBL
[15:41] <k00l3th4n> What card do you need a driver for?
[15:41] <HexaChop> ioria, http://sprunge.us/NNBL
[15:41] <HexaChop> k00l3th4n, http://sprunge.us/NNBL
[15:42] <HexaChop> k00l3th4n, 2x ASUS Strix 2070
[15:42] <fund> Anyone using Linux from usb thru vm/virtual box/qemu?
[15:42] <HexaChop> k00l3th4n, 2x ASUS Strix 1070
[15:42] <EriC^^> HexaChop: does "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" give you anything in the terminal?
[15:42] <ioria> HexaChop,  dpkg -l | grep nvidia       no output, right ?
[15:42] <dinet> hello. is there a way to se where apache2, php7 and mysql slows down? since upgrade to 16.04 wordpress is extreamly slow
[15:43] <HexaChop> ioria, EriC^^, none.
[15:43] <EriC^^> HexaChop: dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | curl -F "sprunge=<-" sprunge.us
[15:43] <ioria> HexaChop,  so it broke by itself ?
[15:43] <tchnq> ubottu, Thx!
[15:43] <HexaChop> ioria, EriC^^, I had no NVIDIA drivers after installing ubuntu, I get no output, that why http://sprunge.us/NNBL is empty.
[15:43] <HexaChop> that's*
[15:43] <ioria> HexaChop,  ok... so how apt broke ?
[15:44] <HexaChop> ioria, idk if it broke at all.
[15:44] <ioria> HexaChop,  yes, you got unmet deps
[15:44] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:44] <EriC^^> he did attempt to install nvidia-367
[15:45] <EriC^^> try the dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii command
[15:45] <EriC^^> it'll show anyyh
[15:45] <fund> What's difference between Linux live usb creator and grub and yumi?
[15:45] <EriC^^> *anything that isn't installed correctly
[15:45] <tchnq> What about Intel HD graphics driver on ubuntu 16.04 LTE? I've didn't installed any driver, so I believe ubuntu is using default driver. I have worse fps then in windows in Dota2
[15:45] <ioria> HexaChop,  try sudo apt-get purge nvidia*   and see what it says
[15:46] <HexaChop> ioria, http://termbin.com/pjx3 (for the sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade)
[15:46] <ioria> HexaChop,  right, purge
[15:47] <EriC^^> ioria: wildcards with apt.. yesterday some guy broke his install purging gpg*
[15:47] <_war10ck_> Hello all, just upgraded to 16.04 and found that the free space status bar is dropped in Nautilus(updated from 12.04)
[15:47] <HexaChop> ioria, http://termbin.com/xs3f (for the try sudo apt-get purge nvidia*)
[15:47] <k00l3th4n> HexaChop: Are you using 64-bit?
[15:47] <HexaChop> k00l3th4n yep.
[15:47] <EriC^^> (just a heads up on this wildcard issue)
[15:47] <_war10ck_> Is it something that I am missing or that feature is really dropped in nautilus
[15:47] <ioria> HexaChop,  it's a mess
[15:47] <ioria> EriC^^,  really ?
[15:48] <EriC^^> ioria: yes
[15:48] <HexaChop> ioria, purge?
[15:48] <ioria> EriC^^,  that's a total different pkg
[15:48] <EriC^^> it removed apt even, he had to use dpkg -i to get it back
[15:48] <EriC^^> ioria: ok :P
[15:48] <tchnq> Noone here playing Dota2 on Intel HD?
[15:48] <EriC^^> ioria: apt is kind of coco for cocopuffs with wildcards
[15:48] <serdar> k00l3th4n: I purged and reinstalled lightdm, but it still overwrites my xorg.conf
[15:48] <ioria> HexaChop,  it says 367, 370, 375 ....
[15:49] <ioria> EriC^^,  yeah
[15:49] <EriC^^> ioria: on different systems getting different results too
[15:49] <lodearit> EriC^^: i get can't drop privileges for files... when i install some pkcages necessary for flash?
[15:49] <lodearit> The following packages requested additional data downloads after package installation, but the data could not be downloaded or could not be processed.
[15:49] <ioria> HexaChop,  i'd start to purge language-pack-es
[15:49] <lodearit> ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[15:50] <k00l3th4n> serdar: Okay, try to purge/remove xorg then reinsall.
[15:50] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo apt-get  purge language-pack-es
[15:50] <serdar> short question, as I understood, I don't need nomodeset when I install nvidia drivers, is that still valid?
[15:50] <serdar> test
[15:51] <Dreaman> hahhaa salute
[15:51] <HexaChop> ioria, sudo apt-get purge language-pack-es
[15:51] <ioria> yes
[15:51] <throwaway> Anyone know how can I confirm that Transmission is connected through VPN?
[15:51] <HexaChop> ioria, http://termbin.com/j7xs , sorry.
[15:52] <lodearit> throwaway: which vpn service?
[15:52] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo apt-get  purge language-pack-gnome-es
[15:52] <lodearit> dependson that throwaway ,
[15:52] <throwaway> Expressvpn
[15:52] <HexaChop> ioria, http://termbin.com/j7xs
[15:52] <serdar> darn
[15:52] <HexaChop> ioria, exact same outcome
[15:52] <throwaway> Expressvpn, lodearit
[15:53] <fund> What's meaning of "Linux which runs from ram"?
[15:53] <HexaChop> ioria, http://termbin.com/4706
[15:53] <Dreaman> HexaChop open the setting and try sp and install
[15:53] <lodearit> it is connected through vpn as all traffic passes, unless the connection is down then it's all exposed, accidental cuts happen
[15:53] <Dreaman> esp
[15:53] <EriC^^> HexaChop: try sudo apt-get install language-pack-es-base
[15:53] <HexaChop> Dreaman, do what?
[15:53] <EriC^^> see why it won't install it
[15:53] <k00l3th4n> throwaway: Hold on a minute and i'll send you a link to download a file to check you vpn through transmission.
[15:53] <ioria> HexaChop,  if you run apt-get -f install ?
[15:53] <throwaway> k00l3th4n, no thanks
[15:54] <throwaway> lodearit, ok
[15:54] <HexaChop> EriC^^, it gives me a lot of command not found.
[15:54] <HexaChop> ioria, yes.
[15:54] <serdar> k00l3th4n: I purged lightdm now and reinstalled it but I got the same issue
[15:54] <ioria> HexaChop,  what happens ?
[15:54] <EriC^^> HexaChop: sudo apt-get install language-pack-es-base
[15:54] <HexaChop> ioria, installed a lot of stuff, why?
[15:54] <ioria> HexaChop,  something wrong
[15:55] <serdar> do I need nomodeset? as I understood, this is not needed, when I install nvidia driver
[15:55] <ioria> HexaChop, when it finishes, rerun  update  and full-upgrade
[15:55] <HexaChop> EriC^^, It worked.
[15:55] <HexaChop> ioria, I did the -f install thing a while back now.
[15:55] <k00l3th4n> throwaway: Google ipMagnet and download use the magnet to check if you client is connected through VPN.
[15:55] <EriC^^> HexaChop: try sudo apt-get install language-pack-es
[15:55] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:56] <throwaway> thanks, k00l3th4n
[15:56] <HexaChop> ioria, http://termbin.com/jjgb
[15:56] <k00l3th4n> throwaway: It's pretty simple. That's the method I use.
[15:56] <ioria> HexaChop,  still broken
[15:57] <k00l3th4n> throwaway: Let me know if it works.
[15:57] <HexaChop> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/gp5d
[15:57] <k00l3th4n> throwaway: And you're welcome bro.
[15:57] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ok, let's take a breather
[15:57] <EriC^^> and try to figure stuff out
[15:57] <EriC^^> deal?
[15:57] <HexaChop> EriC^^, I can keep going actually.
[15:58] <Volis> Is it fine if I ask a Ubuntu installation problem I'm having?
[15:58] <serdar> lightdm kills me. can someone tell me another dm, except sddm?
[15:58] <Speiros> Do it Volis:)
[15:58] <Speiros> Someone will look at it.
[15:58] <ioria> HexaChop,  again if you run  apt-get -f install what happens ?
[15:58] <EriC^^> i mean like let's try to see what's going on instead of pulling random wires
[15:58] <EriC^^> HexaChop: ^
[15:58] <ledeni> HexaChop, try sudo apt-cache clean all
[15:58] <Dreaman> http://prikachi.com/images.php?images/803/9013803E.png     HexaChop  lame Ñ=
[15:58] <k00l3th4n> serdar: pastepin you error and send the link so I can see the errors.
[15:59] <HexaChop> ioria, http://termbin.com/ummp
[15:59] <serdar> k00l3th4n: lightdm replaces my xorg.conf, I don't know what I should paste there
[15:59] <Volis> Alright, so my friend has an Asus X205TA and I followed the exact instructions here ( https://github.com/lopaka/instructions/blob/master/ubuntu-16.04-install-asus-x205ta.md under BIOS Setup) to try boot with USB but I'm not able to
[15:59] <ioria> HexaChop,  and ?
[15:59] <EriC^^> Volis: what happens when you try to boot?
[15:59] <HexaChop> ioria, I get this: http://termbin.com/ummp
[15:59] <serdar> Volis: acpi=off
[16:00] <ioria> HexaChop,  and it stops ?
[16:00] <HexaChop> ioria, yep.
[16:00] <ioria> HexaChop,  dpkg -l | grep  -v "ii  " | grep -v "rc  "
[16:00] <serdar> what happened to kdm or gdm?
[16:00] <Volis> What happens is, I create the bootable USB. Plug it into X205TA, power on, press Esc key to select the boot device, select USB drive and then it shows me the same dialog again after black screen for 2 seconds.
[16:01] <HexaChop> ioria, http://termbin.com/lokl
[16:01] <Volis> I choose USB stick again and then it proceeds to boot with Windows again
[16:01] <serdar> Volis: press e and add acpi=off, that might help maybe pci=nomsi also helps you
[16:01] <ioria> HexaChop,  it'all broken .
[16:01] <k00l3th4n> serdar: So what is the issue. You can't use xorg or what? Or are you not get a windows manager?
[16:01] <serdar> had a similar issue with my msi notebook here
[16:01] <Volis> serdar, Press e at the menu where it shows me bootable media?
[16:01] <ioria> HexaChop,  bad installed i guess ... don't know how
[16:02] <ledeni> HexaChop, try sudo apt-cache clean all
[16:02] <HexaChop> ioria, what are you suggesting? I CHECKED the MD5, it was perfect.
[16:02] <serdar> k00l3th4n: I change xorg.conf with my settings or with nvidia-xconfig and when I (re)start lightdm it gets replaced
[16:02] <ioria> HexaChop,  lvm, encryption ... how did you installed ?
[16:02] <serdar> Volis: yes and go down where you see splash and add there these two entries and press F10
[16:02] <HexaChop> ledeni, E: Invalid operation clean.
[16:03] <HexaChop> ioria, what?
[16:03] <ioria> HexaChop,  installed plain and simple ? without lvm or encryption options selected ?
[16:03] <k00l3th4n> serdar: Interesting. I'm not sure I can help bro. All I can advise is reinstall xorg and your drivers.
[16:03] <HexaChop> ioria both selected
[16:04] <Amm0n> serdar, maybe something in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d overriding?
[16:04] <ioria> HexaChop,  if you ask, i'd reinstall sorry
[16:04] <serdar> Amm0n: and here is the funny fact, there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[16:04] <HexaChop> ioria, nope, I am SO DONE.
[16:04] <ioria> lol
[16:05] <serdar> HexaChop: yeah
[16:05] <HexaChop> MD5 went perfectly..., ioria.
[16:05] <Volis> serdar, Alright I think this is what you're saying ( http://askubuntu.com/a/160056 ) but that computer has Windows 8. No Grub.
[16:05] <ioria> HexaChop,  it's not all in the checksum
[16:05] <serdar> I might getting old, but I have the feeling, that 5 years ago gentoo was easier :/
[16:06] <serdar> Volis: your usb stick is using grub I guess
[16:06] <lodearit> hi
[16:06] <lodearit> The following packages have been kept back:
[16:06] <lodearit>   gnome-software gnome-software-common snapd ubuntu-core-launcher ubuntu-software
[16:06] <Amm0n> serdar, is this a multiuser system? you could use Autostart X at login and ditch the DM bloat
[16:06] <ioria> brb
[16:06] <lodearit> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[16:06] <lodearit> how to upgrade that?
[16:06] <HexaChop> sperios, I give up, mate.
[16:06] <lodearit> those packages cancreate a chain reaction, so  i need to upgrade them?
[16:06] <Volis> serdar, yes but it doesn't even start to boot. The Esc option to select the boot media I'm talking about is BIOS
[16:06] <ledeni> HexaChop, try sudo apt-get clean all
[16:07] <k00l3th4n> lodearit: Hello, what is your issue?
[16:07] <HexaChop> speiros, I give up, mate. *
[16:07] <lodearit> i wantt to fix that 5 not upgraded
[16:07] <Speiros> HexaChop I don't know mate.
[16:07] <k00l3th4n> lodearit: sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade
[16:07] <serdar> Volis: what exactly happens, I was not giving to much attention
[16:07] <lodearit> why do i get that? error, and how to fix it? i am already on 16.04
[16:07] <Speiros> HexaChop You've got the ubuntu part working, but it's drivers now isn't it?
[16:08] <ducasse> lodearit: try 'sudo apt full-upgrade'
[16:08] <serdar> Speiros: it's always drivers :D
[16:08] <Amm0n> serdar, to your KMS question. Do you need a different resolution in kernelspace? If so it's supported since nvidia 364.12+
[16:08] <Volis> serdar, I plug the USB, power on the device, press Esc key to see the boot options (Windows Boot Manager or USB: Sandisk), select USB and press Enter and it comes back to the same dialog.
[16:08] <k00l3th4n> lodearit: I'd backup your system before ever dist-upgradeing.
[16:08] <serdar> Amm0n: I've installed 375 now
[16:09] <Volis> serdar, The second time when I select and enter USB. Windows boot anyway.
[16:09] <HexaChop> Speiros, this is so frustrating... I am seriously about to give up now...
[16:09] <Speiros> serdar I guess.  I'm staying with 14.4 for now...at least for a little while.
[16:09] <ducasse> k00l3th4n: why on earth do you say that? dist-upgrade is the recommended way to update on ubuntu.
[16:09] <Volis> serdar, The USB works on a different computer. My BIOS is set exactly as defined here https://github.com/lopaka/instructions/blob/master/ubuntu-16.04-install-asus-x205ta.md
[16:09] <serdar> Volis: is secure boot enabled?
[16:09] <Volis> serdar, Disabled
[16:10] <HexaChop> ioria, I know what is wrong
[16:10] <k00l3th4n> ducasse: You
[16:10] <HexaChop> ioria, I have a red minus sign at the top. IT says this:
[16:10] <lodearit> k00l3th4n: so if i get not upgrade packages, even though i did apt-get upgrade, and then number of packages keep on increasin then is it bad/
[16:10] <serdar> Volis: It's hard to check websites, if you are not on X :)
[16:11] <HexaChop> an eror occurred, please run package manager (and a lot more text), ioria sperios.
[16:11] <HexaChop> speiros * ^
[16:11] <Volis> serdar, oh wait, I'll tell you in that case, "Advanced tab, USB Configuration -> USB Controller Select set to EHCI" and "Security tab, Secure Boot menu -> Secure Boot Control set to Disabled"
[16:11] <Speiros> HexaChop What part is the error that occurred?
[16:11] <Speiros> HexaChop the initial install?
[16:11] <k00l3th4n> ducasse: That's correct. It's just safe to make backup before a dist-upgrade. It could break you system. At least in my experience.
[16:11] <guideX> I am trying to move my vps to a vm, I have a tar.gz with all the files of the vps in it (sys, dev, etc, more) and I was thinking I'd create a new ubuntu vm, and extract all the files over it, but how do you figure out what version of ubuntu you were on?
[16:11] <serdar> Volis: so you are not seing the Try Ubuntu boot menu?
[16:11] <HexaChop> Speiros, I have at the top taskbar a red minus sign
[16:11] <Volis> serdar, nope
[16:12] <guideX> .... I am trying to move my vps to a vm, I have a tar.gz with all the
[16:12] <ledeni> HexaChop,close package manager if you have open
[16:12] <serdar> how did you create your usb?
[16:12] <HexaChop> ledeni, it wasn't open.
[16:12] <ducasse> k00l3th4n: that is *very* unlikely, unless you use a ton of random ppas.
[16:12] <Volis> serdar, I used rufus on Windows 10 machine
[16:12] <ledeni> HexaChop, try sudo apt-get clean all
[16:12] <serdar> Volis: hmm that's fine
[16:12] <guideX> So How do you figure out what version of ubuntu you are running from a backup?
[16:13] <HexaChop> ledeni, done, got no error, no nothing really.
[16:13] <serdar> Volis: is this a uefi bios?
[16:13] <EriC^^> guideX: /etc/issue
[16:13] <HexaChop> ledeni, got no output.
[16:13] <Volis> serdar, I'm pretty sure it is
[16:13] <EriC^^> guideX: why does it matter?
[16:13] <Speiros> HexaChop When you say at the top taskbar, the top of what, and which taskbar?
[16:13] <k00l3th4n> lodearit: No that's not bad, just mean there are upgrades for you packages. You should be fine to upgrade. Just be careful when upgrading anything with xorg.
[16:13] <guideX> EriC^^ I am trying to move my vps to a vm
[16:13] <Speiros> I'm trying to picture what would have a red minus sign HexaChop
[16:13] <serdar> Volis: can you select on Bios which device you boot in?
[16:14] <ledeni> HexaChop, now try  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[16:14] <guideX> but I'm not sure what version of ubuntu I'm on to create the new vm
[16:14] <Volis> serdar, I did. That has the same effect
[16:14] <guideX> I was planning to Extract over the new ubuntu files
[16:14] <HexaChop> Speiros, near the internet arrows.
[16:14] <k00l3th4n> ducasse: Again, true. It's just better to be prepared incase anything breaks. That way you can revert to your previous system if something goes wrong.
[16:14] <EriC^^> guideX: that's not a good idea
[16:14] <serdar> Volis: what did you download?
[16:14] <Volis> serdar, I disabled "Windows Boot Manager" option from the BIOS boot options and the computer kept on booting straight to BIOS
[16:15] <guideX> EriC^^: ah ok, do yuou have any recommendations how I can do it? I wish to move from my vps to a vm, but I'm having alot of trouble
[16:15] <serdar> Volis: tried different slots?
[16:15] <HexaChop> ledeni, solved it myself, had to put -f before full-upgrade
[16:15] <EriC^^> guideX: boot a live iso in the vm, and create a partition table on the vm disk and partitions, mount them, then copy over the backup install
[16:15] <Speiros> HexaChop So it's working now?
[16:15] <Volis> serdar, I have tried both Ubuntu 16.10 x64 and x86 desktop versions
[16:15] <EriC^^> guideX: then chroot to the install and reinstall grub
[16:15] <Volis> serdar, yes, tried different slots and different USB sticks too
[16:16] <HexaChop> Speiros, ype, it fetched files now.
[16:16] <HexaChop> Speiros, yep*
[16:16] <guideX> EriC^^: hrm ok, I tried that before, but I don't actually know how to do much aside from a normal install of ubuntu, but i'll research how to do all those things
[16:16] <Speiros> HexaChop  See...don't give up mate:)  The folks in here have a huge skill and knowledge base between them.
[16:16] <Volis> serdar, X205TA doesn't have a CD reader else I would have tried Plop Boot Manager as well
[16:16] <soahccc> ACL question: Can anyone tell me why the mask of subfolders is r-- considering the ACLs of the parent? https://gist.github.com/2called-chaos/3d6eff4b699644a34fca4dc15c456a63
[16:16] <guideX> I ran into some failure before
[16:16] <Speiros> HexaChop Bits and pieces, along with our own understanding, and guess what???
[16:17] <serdar> do you have a different usb stick Volis ?
[16:17] <Speiros> HexaChop Ubuntu.  Literally:)
[16:17] <ledeni> HexaChop, ok now update your system first
[16:17] <guideX> creating the partition table without installation, mounting, chroot, reinstall grub etc
[16:17] <HexaChop> ledeni, command, please?
[16:17] <guideX> these are things I usually let the installer do
[16:17] <HexaChop> ledeni, the command worked for installing
[16:17] <Volis> serdar, yes I do, I have so far tried three all of which work just fine on other computers
[16:17] <ledeni> HexaChop, already give you
[16:18] <EriC^^> guideX: it's not difficult
[16:18] <guideX> EriC^^: yeah but I am not too good with linux
[16:18] <EriC^^> guideX: create a partition table using fdisk (press o then w to write), the use cfdisk (it's very intuitive) to create the partitions
[16:18] <serdar> Volis: have you searched for X205TA boot from usb?
[16:18] <EriC^^> guideX: you'll manage easily and learn a ton i'm sure
[16:18] <guideX> hrm ok i'll try again
[16:18] <EriC^^> if you have any issues feel free to ask here
[16:19] <HexaChop> ledeni, worked.
[16:19] <guideX> ok cool
[16:19] <ledeni> HexaChop,great
[16:19] <HexaChop> had to hit yes, added -f somewhere to make it work, ledeni.
[16:19] <serdar> Volis: it looks like, that your bios don't allow boot from usb, maybe ou need to update your bios
[16:20] <Volis> serdar, yes I have and just did that again. People seem to have that problem but no answers so far. The most thorogh installation procedure is defined in the Github md file I linked
[16:20] <EriC^^> Volis: did you follow that guide, replacing the efi with the 32bit version and whatnot?
[16:20] <ledeni> HexaChop,ok
[16:21] <k00l3th4n> ducasse: I've learned to always backup my system before upgrading a bunch of packages. It doesn't hurt to have a backup anyways. It's good practice.
[16:21] <Volis> EriC^^, What do you mean?
[16:21] <HexaChop> ledeni, what's next?
[16:21] <ducasse> k00l3th4n: that is what snapshots are for ;)
[16:21] <ledeni> HexaChop, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-367
[16:21] <Volis> I tried Ubuntu x86 on the USB if that's what you mean
[16:21] <Speiros> k00l3th4n Yep.  I learned to keep files external and introduce them to the system.
[16:22] <EriC^^> Volis: uefi usually is 64bit, and the ubuntu installer uses that, for 32bit you need to do some stuff and the link you provided outlines stuff
[16:22] <serdar> EriC^^: he has a bios issue, the system is not loading from usb.
[16:22] <ledeni> HexaChop,opss
[16:22] <Volis> EriC^^, I tried x64 in that case too, that should have worked
[16:22] <EriC^^> serdar: it's using uefi no?
[16:22] <Speiros> k00l3th4n, Also, I only just had the reminder by a close friend, to keep an external drive handy in my go-bag. I never thought about that before.
[16:22] <ledeni> HexaChop, just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-367
[16:22] <EriC^^> Volis: it's not 64bit
[16:22] <guideX> looks like I'm on Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS \n \l  I could have sword it was 16, weird
[16:22] <guideX> sworn
[16:22] <k00l3th4n> ducasse: True! I usually just clone my /
[16:23] <guideX> i'll start with an ubuntu 14.04 then
[16:23] <EriC^^> Volis: isn't this the guide you posted? https://github.com/lopaka/instructions/blob/master/ubuntu-16.04-install-asus-x205ta.md
[16:23] <EriC^^> "Separate system already running Ubuntu 16.04 - this is where you will build the 32bit boot loader and create the USB install flash drive"
[16:23] <HexaChop> ledeni, E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[16:23] <k00l3th4n> Speiros: I'd say your friend is right. I have an extra drive just for backups.
[16:23] <EriC^^> you need to get a 32bit uefi and replace the 64bit one in the ubuntu installer so you can boot it Volis
[16:24] <ledeni> HexaChop, sudo apt-get clean all
[16:24] <Volis> EriC^^, How do I do that?
[16:24] <Speiros> k00l3th4n, Yep:)
[16:24] <HexaChop> ledeni, done, gave no output again
[16:25] <guideX> do you guys know, when selecting an ubuntu version, should it be the ubuntu-14.04.4-server-amd64.iso or ubuntu-14.04.4-server-i386.iso
[16:25] <Speiros> So...the ubuntu wiki...I have an idea.
[16:25] <EriC^^> Volis: do you have a system already running ubuntu 16.04?
[16:25] <Volis> EriC^^, I have a system running Windows 10 instead :|
[16:25] <EriC^^> guideX: do you want a 32bit or 64bit?
[16:25] <k00l3th4n> ducasse: You use a VM? I dont' use VMs, so snapshots arent relevent to me.
[16:25] <Speiros> Who has some responsibility with the wiki?
[16:26] <ledeni> HexaChop, sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[16:26] <HexaChop> ledeni, what that did?
[16:26] <ledeni> HexaChop,sudo apt-get update
[16:26] <Volis> guideX, Check the computer you intend it install it on. See if it is 32 bit or 64 bit
[16:26] <HexaChop> ledeni, got the update, too.
[16:26] <xXEoflaOEXx> guideX, If your CPU does not support x86_64, try i386, What is your CPU?
[16:27] <Volis> EriC^^, Is this the problem that you're talking about? http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support
[16:27] <HexaChop> ledeni, Reading package lists... Done
[16:27] <ledeni> HexaChop,sudo apt-get install nvidia-367
[16:27] <ducasse> k00l3th4n: no, i use btrfs and zfs
[16:27] <EriC^^> Volis: that might work
[16:28] <HexaChop> ledeni, not working. Again some -f thing
[16:28] <k00l3th4n> ducasse: Cool. How do you lile ZFS?
[16:28] <Volis> EriC^^, cool, I'll try that
[16:28] <ledeni> HexaChop,again sudo apt-get clean all
[16:28] <EriC^^> Volis: do you have a usb?
[16:28] <Speiros> Ah, it's okay.  Found all the info on the actual Ubuntu wiki...as regards the Ubuntu wiki:)
[16:28] <Volis> EriC^^, yes I do
[16:28] <HexaChop> ledeni, done.
[16:29] <ledeni> HexaChop,ok
[16:29] <EriC^^> Volis: you could use an ubuntu live session to run the commands in the first guide you posted, in case it does some fancy stuff so it loads on the tablet
[16:29] <EriC^^> Volis: the commands are in that gray box
[16:29] <EriC^^> starting with apt-get install p7zip-full ...
[16:29] <k00l3th4n> ducasse: I've been thinking about switching to ZFS. I here good things.
[16:29] <HexaChop> EriC^^, what are you talking about with Volis?
[16:30] <Volis> EriC^^, oh okay I'll boot the live session on this computer and run the commands
[16:30] <EriC^^> Volis: do you have another usb?
[16:30] <Volis> EriC^^, Is it fine if I do it on a virtual machine I have that is running Ubuntu?
[16:30] <HexaChop> ledeni, what to do next?
[16:30] <Volis> EriC^^, only one right now
[16:30] <EriC^^> cause you'll need it (that's the one you're going to make so it works on the tablet)
[16:30] <Volis> ah right
[16:31] <EriC^^> Volis: ok, boot the live usb, and report back here once it's booted
[16:31] <Volis> That's okay, I'll get one as soon as possible and then do it
[16:31] <HexaChop> EriC^^, you can make linux ubuntu run on  TABLET?
[16:31] <EriC^^> maybe we can add files to it, it just needs the bootia32.efi file in efi/boot/
[16:31] <Volis> HexaChop, It's Asus X205TA so yeah tablet.
[16:31] <guideX> xXEoflaOEXx: it's an i5 in an asus eee slate
[16:31] <stanstill> hi, im going to buy a samsung nvme ssd 512GB pro for my notebook and install ubuntu 16.10 64 bits in it. I want that unit for the speed. Will these drivers make it go as fast as possible? http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/download/tools.html
[16:31] <EriC^^> HexaChop: yes
[16:32] <k00l3th4n> Got to go guys/gals. Be back later.
[16:32] <ledeni> HexaChop,sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-367
[16:32] <guideX> the problem though is, I have no idea what was installed on the vps
[16:32] <HexaChop> ledeni, E: Unable to locate package nvidia-graphics-drivers-367
[16:32] <Speiros> HexaChop, Worth learning eh:)
[16:32] <guideX> is there a way to know if it's one or the other via the tar.gz?
[16:33] <HexaChop> Speiros, learning what?
[16:33] <ducasse> stanstill: those drivers are for windows
[16:34] <Apple_> I am having issues booting into Ubuntu 16.04.1. I can successfully boot via recovery mode but not the normal mode. I've tried using boot repair to no avail. http://paste2.org/GLBxYMCB The issue I'm having is that I cannot type in my (LUKS, I think) decryption password on the normal boot UI
[16:35] <stanstill> ducasse: ok, so will that samsung nvme still work with 3,500 MB/sec write and 2,100 MB/sec write speeds? or am I screwed for using linux?
[16:35] <EriC^^> Apple_: what happens in normal mode
[16:35] <xXEoflaOEXx> guideX, So it must support x86_64, Try x86_64 on and see.
[16:36] <ducasse> stanstill: afaik samsung nvme drives work as they should with linux
[16:36] <stanstill> ok ducasse what tool do I need to check write and read speeds, once I install ubuntu in the unit?
[16:37] <Apple_> The boot loader pulls up a prompt asking for the decryption password. I can't type in that box. The keyboard still works though - I can Alt-Sysreq-reisub
[16:37] <ducasse> stanstill: try hdparm or bonnie++, the latter is much more comprehensive
[16:37] <stanstill> both from the terminal I assume...
[16:37] <Jakey3> is apache tomcat a webserver for java?
[16:38] <ducasse> stanstill: yep.
[16:39] <ledeni> HexaChop,can you open software & updates application
[16:39] <ducasse> stanstill: what speeds you actually get depends on your workload.
[16:39] <Apple_> I'll get a better boot link. http://paste2.org/e0X91NjD
[16:39] <HexaChop> ldeni, sure.
[16:39] <stanstill> ducasse: Im aiming for samsung, because all HDDs I own are samsung and all references I have read about the brand are good. Id like to hear your opinion
[16:39] <HexaChop> ledeni, sure.
[16:40] <ducasse> stanstill: i have a bunch of samsung sata ssds, they are excellent.
[16:40] <HexaChop> ledeni, what's next?
[16:40] <summakor> bleh
[16:40] <Speiros> HexaChop, Sorry, was having a shower man.  Learning this system.
[16:40] <stanstill> ducasse: does speed also depend on used percentage? (how much data I store in the unit)
[16:41] <ledeni> HexaChop,check restricted software
[16:41] <HexaChop> Speiros, I am not sure if it worth the price it comes with (having nearly all of your braincells destroyed).
[16:41] <HexaChop> ledeni, there says nvidia drivers
[16:41] <HexaChop> ledeni, and I can select one of them
[16:41] <ledeni> HexaChop,yes
[16:42] <ducasse> stanstill: it can, if the drive is very full.
[16:42] <Speiros> HexaChop I understand that part. Beginning on the platform is hell awkward.
[16:42] <serdar> darn
[16:42] <HexaChop> ledeni, it wasn't there before.
[16:42] <serdar> lightdm is not replacing xorg.conf only, wenn nomodeset is set in grub
[16:43] <ledeni> HexaChop,select 367
[16:43] <serdar> btw. how to upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10?
[16:43] <stanstill> ok ducasse , which brand would you choose? samsung or crucial? for nvme ssds I mean
[16:43] <HexaChop> ledeni, selected latest
[16:43] <ledeni> HexaChop, ok
[16:43] <Soul_Sample> serdar: if everything is working for you I'd advise against upgrading. otherwise it should notify you about the new release automatically in the upgrade manager
[16:43] <HexaChop> ledeni, after selecting, it reverts back
[16:44] <ioria> HexaChop, how is going ?
[16:44] <ledeni> HexaChop, opss
[16:44] <Soul_Sample> serdar: if it's not, open software & updates and there change Notify me of a new ubuntu version to "for any new version"
[16:44] <HexaChop> ioria, I did not need to reinstall ubuntu, it was fine...
[16:44] <ioria> HexaChop, ok,   try sudo apt-get instal dclock
[16:44] <HexaChop> ioria, some of your commands was wrong (missing -f)
[16:44] <ducasse> stanstill: absolutely samsung, imo.
[16:44] <ioria> HexaChop, ok,   try sudo apt-get install dclock
[16:45] <stanstill> ducasse: many thanks for all your answers
[16:45] <stanstill> is "many thanks" used in the English speaking world or does it sound foreign?
[16:45] <Apple_> EriC^^ The boot loader pulls up a prompt asking for the decryption password. I can't type in that box. The keyboard still works though - I can Alt-Sysreq-reisub. Here's a better link http://paste2.org/e0X91NjD
[16:45] <Speiros> stanstill It's still correctly used.
[16:45] <HexaChop> ioria, E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[16:45] <ioria> HexaChop, you can't install anything until you fix the broken pkgs
[16:45] <WildPenguin> hello, is Ubuntu more stable than Debian testing?
[16:46] <HexaChop> ledeni, opss?
[16:46] <basedmars> redundancy stanstill but it's alright
[16:46] <ledeni> HexaChop,again sudo apt-get clean all
[16:46] <serdar> Soul_Sample: none of my desktops are working (e21 and plasma) so I cannot use anything x releated
[16:46] <turista> hi, anyone have a tutorial about using android as wifi receiver?¿
[16:46] <turista> ubuntu 16
[16:46] <HexaChop> ledeni, done. What goes next?
[16:46] <serdar> I just need to change sources.list, right?
[16:46] <ledeni> HexaChop,sudo apt-get install dclock
[16:47] <stanstill> basedmars: if "many thanks" is redundant, the "thanks a lot" is also redundant
[16:47] <Soul_Sample> serdar you can just try running sudo do-release-upgrade -d from the terminal
[16:47] <Soul_Sample> serdar: just a sec, that would upgrade to 17.04
[16:47] <HexaChop> ledeni, E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[16:47] <Soul_Sample> serdar: hold that command!
[16:47] <ioria> HexaChop, again ,  you can't install anything until you fix the broken pkgs
[16:47] <HexaChop> ioria, pkgs?
[16:47] <serdar> what's the name of Soul_Sample it was not working at all
[16:47] <ioria> HexaChop, packages,
[16:48] <Speiros> stanstill I don't think grammar and sentence structure are clung to deeply any more in the English language.  Especially with texting, and also having many nations speaking some dialect of it.
[16:48] <HexaChop> ioria, what, that requires reinstall? can't I just run from Live USB to fix it for me?
[16:48] <ledeni> HexaChop,close software & updates
[16:48] <ioria> HexaChop, you said you fixed it
[16:48] <Soul_Sample> serdar: maybe we should first focus on fixing your desktops, upgrading won't help
[16:49] <HexaChop> ledeni, closed
[16:49] <ledeni> HexaChop,again sudo apt-get clean all
[16:49] <HexaChop> ioria, I can sense anger in u for some reason.
[16:49] <ioria> HexaChop, lol
[16:49] <HexaChop> ioria trying to be K.I.T.T. :D
[16:49] <serdar> Soul_Sample: I installed ubuntu two days ago, it was really painful until now
[16:50] <ioria> HexaChop, kitty, kitty
[16:50] <ledeni> HexaChop,and sudo apt-get install dclock
[16:50] <HexaChop> ledeni, E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[16:50] <Speiros> The car?
[16:50] <ioria> HexaChop, you can't install anything until you fix the broken pkgs lol
[16:50] <Speiros> lol
[16:50] <ledeni> HexaChop,did you  sudo apt-get clean all
[16:50] <serdar> what is the name of 16.10?
[16:51] <Speiros> I haven't heard a reference to that for years.
[16:51] <Soul_Sample> serdar: yakkety yak
[16:51] <basedmars> yakkity yakk
[16:51] <HexaChop> ledeni, yep
[16:51] <HexaChop> !ping
[16:51] <serdar> thanks
[16:51] <Soul_Sample> serdar: but 16.04 is a long term support version, you'll get less software, less themes and less ppa's for the 16.10. and also it has a smaller support window
[16:52] <ioria> HexaChop, can you tell us exactly what you did the first time you log in ?
[16:52] <Soul_Sample> serdar: i also had ridiculous network manager issues with 16.10
[16:52] <HexaChop> hexachop, did as told - update linux.
[16:52] <HexaChop> ioria, did as told - update linux.
[16:52] <ioria> HexaChop, uname -r ?
[16:53] <HexaChop> ioria WHAT?
[16:53] <basedmars> uname -r
[16:53] <ioria> HexaChop,  what's the output ?
[16:53] <HexaChop> ioria, 4.8.0-32-generic
[16:54] <ioria> HexaChop,  you did run  sudo apt full-upgrade   or what commands ?
[16:54] <HexaChop> ioria, sounds about right
[16:54] <Speiros> Yeah, I remember that command
[16:54] <fund> Which are different ways to use Linux on Windows device?
[16:54] <ioria> HexaChop,  ok, you ran the upgrades... and then ? nothing more ?
[16:55] <idoko> fund, as always, dual boot, virtualbox or just remove windows and put linyx
[16:55] <HexaChop> ioria, I don't remember, tbh.
[16:55] <idoko> linux *
[16:55] <ioria> HexaChop,  it can't break by itself
[16:55] <fund> What about live Linux?
[16:55] <Speiros> 40 minutes ago.  the -f was put before full-upgrade.
[16:56] <fund> Is it 4th type?
[16:56] <Soul_Sample> ioria HexaChop can't he just press up in the terminal and review all the commands, unless it was ages ago?
[16:56] <HexaChop> ioria, who knows, technology is getting more and more advanced. I hope it will not start a rising against humans.
[16:56] <ioria> HexaChop,  Soul_Sample  right ... run    history    in terminal
[16:56] <HexaChop> ioria, sudo apt-get update (first command)
[16:56] <ioria> HexaChop, and paste
[16:56] <Speiros> HexaChop With the amount of syntax errors and upgrades, I don't think you'll have much to worry about:D
[16:57] <ioria> HexaChop, history
[16:57] <HexaChop> ioria, how to view history?
[16:57] <ioria> HexaChop, history
[16:57] <ioria> HexaChop, type it
[16:57] <Soul_Sample> HexaChop: just type history in the terminal and it should give you a list of all of the commands you ran
[16:58] <HexaChop> ioria,     1  sudo apt0get-update
[16:58] <HexaChop>     2  sudo apt-get update
[16:58] <HexaChop>     3  sudo  apt-get update
[16:58] <HexaChop>     4  ps aux | grep dpkg
[16:58] <HexaChop>     5  sudo  apt-get update
[16:58] <HexaChop>     6  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:58] <Speiros> HexaChop It will probably be a big list mate.
[16:58] <ioria> HexaChop, paste it, please
[16:58] <Speiros> Hang on...someone will get you HexaChop
[16:58] <Speiros> Damn:/
[16:59] <ioria> HexaChop, you have been muted, don't panic
[16:59] <xXEoflaOEXx> He left.
[16:59] <ioria> dist-upgrade ?????
[16:59] <HexaChop> ioria, got kicked, lol.
[16:59] <Speiros> wb mate:) HexaChop
[16:59] <Speiros> lol, might have to use pastebin man
[16:59] <HexaChop> Sperios, I did, but pasted everything else with the link :DDD
[17:00] <ioria> HexaChop, paste it, please
[17:00] <HexaChop> Sperios, I did, but pasted everything else with the link :DDD
[17:00] <Speiros> Ah, lol:D
[17:00] <HexaChop> http://pastebin.com/ffkyquHs, ioria
[17:01] <HexaChop> http://pastebin.com/ffkyquHs ioria *
[17:01] <Speiros> Wow! 4AM!  I've been up for nearly 24 hours again!
[17:01] <HexaChop> Speiros, don't die.
[17:01] <ioria> HexaChop, ok, as soon as you ran dist-upgrade you were forced to run sudo apt-get install -f
[17:01] <Speiros> HexaChop I don't intend to just yet.
[17:02] <ioria> HexaChop, that's not normal
[17:02] <ioria> HexaChop, and bytheway, the command it's not dist-upgrade anymore but full-upgrade
[17:02] <Speiros> Wasn't it install then upgrade?
[17:03] <ioria> HexaChop,  but not sure has been the culprit
[17:03] <HexaChop> ioria, you are telling me there might be someone who tried to ruin my system?
[17:03] <ioria> HexaChop, oh, please
[17:04] <ioria> HexaChop, no
[17:04] <HexaChop> ioria, oh, kk.
[17:04] <Soul_Sample> HexaChop: in my experience there's always one person trying to ruin my system - me
[17:05] <ioria> HexaChop, sudo apt-get clean; sudo aptitude purge ~c;
[17:05] <HexaChop> Soul_Sample true dat... (accidentally usually)
[17:05] <ioria> HexaChop, you don't have aptitude, sorry
[17:05] <HexaChop> ioria, sudo: aptitude: command not found
[17:06] <ioria> HexaChop, i know
[17:06] <BluesKaj> thee's no need for aptitude anymore
[17:06] <ioria> HexaChop,  well, reboot , grub -> Advanced Oprion -> Recovery > Fix broken pakgs
[17:07] <ioria> *Options
[17:07] <HexaChop> ioria, yay, there IS an option after all.
[17:07] <HexaChop> ioria, rebooting into it. brb.
[17:07] <ioria> HexaChop,  ok
[17:10] <AndChat|33024> ioria, there is no such option.
[17:11] <ioria> AndChat|33024, no ?
[17:11] <AndChat|33024> It's hexachop
[17:12] <ioria> AndChat|33024,  look at the picture https://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/01/25/ubuntu-not-booting-try-repairing-broken-packages-in-recovery-mode/
[17:13] <ioria> AndChat|33024,  dpkg - Repair
[17:13] <HexaChop> Ioria, there, do you see me as hexachop now?
[17:13] <ioria> yes
[17:13] <ioria> HexaChop,   look at the picture https://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/01/25/ubuntu-not-booting-try-repairing-broken-packages-in-recovery-mode/
[17:13] <ioria> HexaChop,  dpkg - Repair
[17:14] <pavan> I try to install octav in my ubuntu 16.04 32 bit                                                                    i foun error                                                    The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:14] <pavan>  octave : Depends: libqt4-network (>= 4:4.5.3) but it is not going to be installed
[17:14] <pavan>           Depends: libqt4-opengl (>= 4:4.5.3) but it is not going to be installed
[17:14] <pavan> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[17:15] <ioria> another one
[17:15] <HexaChop> Ioria, launched in recovery mode, it is now fixing packages.
[17:15] <xXEoflaOEXx> pavan, use pastebin to avoid flooding
[17:15] <Netek> hi all, I have a dedicated server with Xubuntu installed with OVH.  The server comes with 5 IP address in total but I can only get the main IP to work, I have attempted to add the new ips into /etc/network/interfaces  I rebooted the server.
[17:15] <ioria> HexaChop,  good luck
[17:16] <Netek> Now when I do ifconfig, I can see an additional IP added as eth0:0  but this IP is not responding to any pings.  I have followed the guide on OVH servers and hope that somebody else might have done this with OVH before who could help?
[17:16] <guideX> 14.04.4-64 server is downloading now..
[17:16] <HexaChop> ioria, done
[17:17] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo apt update
[17:17] <Dreaman> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23765396/  :)
[17:17] <HexaChop> ioria, it is working. says all packages up to date, holy smokes, you are smart.
[17:17] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:18] <HexaChop> ioria, still -f error
[17:18] <ioria> HexaChop,  paste it, please
[17:18] <HexaChop> ioria, added -f now it works
[17:18] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo apt full-upgrade  again
[17:18] <HexaChop> sudo apt -f full-upgrade did it, ioria
[17:19] <ioria> HexaChop,  sorry, nope ....
[17:19] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:19] <Netek> in case anybody is interested, this is the guide I try to follow http://help.ovh.com/IpAlias#link7
[17:19] <HexaChop> ioria, http://termbin.com/kcxe
[17:19]  * Dreaman drink rakia
[17:20] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo apt install dclock
[17:20] <pavan> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23765418/                found error in ubuntu
[17:20] <HexaChop> ioria, VS my command: http://termbin.com/d3ta
[17:20] <annoying_daniel> Does anyone know how I can contact Reiner Herrmann (deki), the package maintainer of firejail in Ubuntu?
[17:20] <Apple_> I'm having issues booting into normal mode with Ubuntu 16.04.1. GRUB opens a password prompt for my LUKS drive encryption and I can't type there. I can boot with recovery mode though. I've tried using the boot repair utility. I'm also booting Windows on a separate hard drive. http://paste2.org/e0X91NjD
[17:20] <HexaChop> ioria, you see, -f helps ^^
[17:20] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo apt install dclock
[17:21] <Netek> ahh ok, forget about it, issue was OVH had set a v mac address.  I deleted this and it seems ok now :)
[17:21] <HexaChop> ioria same -f error until I do not add -f
[17:21] <ioria> HexaChop,  you shouldn't need it
[17:21] <HexaChop> ioria, nope, with -f the same
[17:21] <Speiros> Netek Hi there.
[17:22] <HexaChop> ioria, this is extraordinarily weird.
[17:22] <ioria> HexaChop,  you still have a 1 not fully installed
[17:22] <Netek> hey Speiros
[17:22] <HexaChop> ioria maybe live USB can fix it in recovery?
[17:22] <ioria> HexaChop,  dpkg -l | grep ^..r
[17:23] <HexaChop> ioria, done. no output
[17:23] <Speiros> Netek When you came in, you probably didn't get a response as what you highlighted was vague in a sense, so don't be disappointed.  It's a help channel here for Ubuntu.  Still, that you have troubleshot a problem is great, and also, more importantly, welcome:)
[17:23] <ioria> HexaChop,  dpkg -l | grep  -v "ii  " | grep -v "rc  "
[17:23] <Netek> Speiros no problem :)  Thank you for the welcome heh
[17:23] <DJones> annoying_daniel: Seems obvious about the first link that comes up in searching is https://launchpad.net/~deki
[17:23] <Speiros> :)
[17:24] <HexaChop> ioria, http://termbin.com/ujbn
[17:24] <ioria> HexaChop,  nothing has been fixed ....
[17:25] <ioria> HexaChop,  can you install something ? guess not ... or yes ?
[17:25] <HexaChop> ioria seems like nothing. can the live USB help without reinstalling?
[17:26] <ioria> HexaChop,  if you can't install nothing on a fresh install ... well, you know
[17:26] <HexaChop> ioria maybe it is related to a red minus on the top taskbar?
[17:26] <ioria> HexaChop,  yes, also
[17:27] <HexaChop> ioria 'error: broken count > 0'
[17:27] <ioria> yep
[17:27] <ioria> HexaChop,  we try to replace sources.list
[17:28] <HexaChop> let's do it, ioria.
[17:28] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list  /etc/apt/sources.list.old
[17:29] <HexaChop> ioria, got no output, done.
[17:29] <ioria> HexaChop,  ls /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
[17:29] <HexaChop> ioria, got no output, done.
[17:30] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo cp  /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list  /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:30] <HexaChop> ioria, got no output, done.
[17:30] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo apt update
[17:30] <HexaChop> ioria, it is installing a lot of stuff
[17:30] <ioria> HexaChop, mmmm
[17:31] <HexaChop> ioria, Fetched 8.270 kB in 17s (461 kB/s)
[17:31] <ioria> HexaChop, sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:31] <HexaChop> ioria, All packages are up to date. (the previous command)
[17:32] <ioria> HexaChop, sudo apt install dclock
[17:32] <HexaChop> ioria, E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[17:32] <ioria> HexaChop, use it
[17:32] <Dreaman> HexaChop apt dist-upgrade
[17:32] <HexaChop> ioria, E: Unable to locate package dclock
[17:32] <ioria> HexaChop, sorry, it's not in main ....
[17:33] <SchrodingersScat> It's really odd, two devices on the same lan are transferring slower than I can download through my ISP, that doesn't make any sense to me.
[17:33] <ioria> HexaChop, sudo apt install vim
[17:33] <HexaChop> ioria, E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[17:34] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo apt-get -f install
[17:34] <HexaChop> ioria, got a request (Yes OR No, which should I hit?)
[17:34] <ioria> HexaChop,  request of what ?
[17:34] <Dreaman> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23765488/  HexaChop  :)
[17:35] <basedmars> how sclow SchrodingersScat
[17:35] <HexaChop> ioria [y/n] thingy
[17:35] <ioria> HexaChop,  y
[17:35] <HexaChop> ioria, Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/bamf-2.index...
[17:35] <HexaChop> hexachop@hexachop-pc:~$
[17:35] <HexaChop> ioria, last line
[17:35] <dark_witcher> Hello, guys, quick question. I made a website porfolio for my gf, that she has to present on a flash drive at her university. How can I lock the html and css files, so they can be only viewed but not edited or code copied?
[17:35] <Speiros> Dreaman the pastebin was in Russian mate.
[17:36] <ioria> HexaChop,   dpkg -l vim
[17:36] <Dreaman> Speiros is Bulgarian
[17:36] <SchrodingersScat> basedmars: like 1.2MBps over wireless
[17:36] <Dreaman> fusk Russians
[17:36] <Speiros> Dreaman Ah, thanks for the clarification:)
[17:36] <HexaChop> ioria, http://termbin.com/0mnb
[17:36] <SchrodingersScat> basedmars: using rsync
[17:36] <Speiros> Dreaman There are good and bad in all nations.
[17:36] <ioria> HexaChop,   no way
[17:37] <dark_witcher> Dreaman what is Bulgarian?
[17:37] <HexaChop> ioria, whaaaa?
[17:37] <Dreaman> i am Bulgarian
[17:37] <giz> can any one help me in setting up wi fi ap
[17:37] <merlin_> hey i have a little problem with the wifi by ubuntu
[17:37] <dark_witcher> Dreaman, stavame dvama :D
[17:37] <Dreaman> not fucking ussian
[17:37] <Dreaman> russian
[17:37] <Dreaman> a qko
[17:37] <HexaChop> Dreanman, could you please not swear?
[17:37] <ioria> HexaChop,   cat /etc/apt/sources.list.old
[17:37] <basedmars> lan's usually 100MBps SchrodingersScat .
[17:37] <DJones> Dreaman: Please don't swear
[17:37] <pavlos> Dreaman, easy with the language ...
[17:38] <ducasse> SchrodingersScat: can you try iperf3 in both tcp and udp modes?
[17:38] <HexaChop> ioria, http://termbin.com/ifhz
[17:38] <DJones> Dreaman: Just stick with your issue in english language here, you won't have a problem
[17:39] <Dreaman> DJones ok
[17:39] <HexaChop> DJones, Dreaman, agreed.
[17:39] <HexaChop> !ping
[17:40] <SchrodingersScat> ducasse: k, setting it up on the two machines.  basedmars: with the wifi N it should be 72mbps, which is what the machines are connected at.
[17:40] <HexaChop> ioria, any news?
[17:41] <merlin_> hello can anyone help me
[17:41] <ioria> HexaChop,   i think your python is broken too
[17:42] <ioria> HexaChop,   ri  python3-pam
[17:42] <ducasse> basedmars: most common modern networking gear is 1gbps
[17:42] <HexaChop> ioria, ri python3-pam
[17:42] <HexaChop> The program 'ri' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[17:42] <HexaChop> sudo apt install ruby
[17:42] <HexaChop> hexachop@hexachop-pc:~$
[17:42] <SchrodingersScat> !info iperf3 trusty | ducasse
[17:42] <dark_witcher> Hello, guys, quick question. I made a website porfolio for my gf, that she has to present on a flash drive at her university. How can I lock the html and css files, so they can be only viewed but not edited or code copied?
[17:43] <ioria> HexaChop,   no, i was just pointing to the brk pkg
[17:43] <giz_> help me in setting up wi fi ap
[17:43] <ducasse> SchrodingersScat: ah, bummer.
[17:43] <SchrodingersScat> trying iperf
[17:43] <ducasse> !info iperf trusty
[17:43] <ducasse> try that instead
[17:43] <HexaChop> ioria, to what?
[17:43] <Rar9> hi i need some help with installing pelc uploadprogress for  7.1.x . under plesk, for 7.0x it installed.
[17:43] <Speiros> dark_witcher Can you view the properties and save it as readonly?
[17:43] <ioria> HexaChop,   sudo apt install --reinstall python3-pam
[17:44] <HexaChop> ioria, Reinstallation of python3-pam is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[17:44] <SchrodingersScat> ducasse: 0.0-10.2 sec  4.12 MBytes  3.39 Mbits/sec
[17:44] <ioria> !info python3-pam
[17:45] <HexaChop> ioria, bash: !info: event not found
[17:45] <ducasse> SchrodingersScat: tcp, i assume? try udp as well. ('-u -b 0')
[17:46] <ioria> HexaChop,   running bash in terminal ?
[17:46] <ioria> HexaChop,   no, it's not a command
[17:46] <SchrodingersScat> ducasse:  0.0-11.0 sec  15.8 KBytes  11.8 Kbits/sec ;(
[17:46] <HexaChop> ioria, where what to do?
[17:47] <dark_witcher> Speiros yep. Thanks.
[17:47] <ducasse> SchrodingersScat: wow, something is definitely wrong...
[17:47] <ioria> HexaChop,  don't bother
[17:47] <Speiros> dark_witcher, np:)
[17:47] <user65784> How do I backup my server?
[17:47] <HexaChop> ioria I will bother
[17:47] <Speiros> Test it first though dark_witcher  on the flashdrive to make sure.
[17:47] <ducasse> SchrodingersScat: are both hosts connected via wireless?
[17:47] <ioria> HexaChop,  i mean, never mind it was an ubottu factoid
[17:48] <ioria> !info hexchat | HexaChop
[17:48] <SchrodingersScat> ducasse: correct, they're right next to each other, could interference account for that much loss?
[17:48] <HexaChop> ioria, right :D
[17:48] <dark_witcher> Speiros, I will, right now.
[17:49] <Speiros> :)
[17:49] <ioria> HexaChop,  not sure you can fix from liveusb
[17:49] <florian___> Hi anyone knows who decides battery voltage cutoff when discharging, it it the batter itself or Ubuntu?
[17:49] <florian___> *it is battery itself*
[17:50] <HexaChop> ioria, let's try?
[17:50] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo apt-get -f install     again
[17:50] <ducasse> SchrodingersScat: i guess it's possible, but i'm not really well versed in wifi. can both hosts get better speeds through the isp?
[17:50] <HexaChop> ioria, but the red minus thing is gone
[17:50] <ioria> oh, good
[17:51] <HexaChop> ioria does that mean that it is fixed?
[17:51] <SchrodingersScat> ducasse: yes, just tested on the second machine, reaches my ISP cap
[17:51] <ioria> HexaChop,  idk, run the above command
[17:51] <HexaChop> ioria,
[17:51] <ducasse> SchrodingersScat: hmm. i suggest you take it to ##networking, i'm basically just throwing out guesses at this point.
[17:51] <HexaChop> ioria, Reading state information... Done
[17:51] <HexaChop> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:52] <SchrodingersScat> ok, fair enough
[17:52] <mhsabbagh> Are there any news about Canonicals's earnings in 2016?
[17:52] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo apt install vim
[17:52] <HexaChop> ioria, E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[17:52] <popey> mhsabbagh: no, Canonical is a private company and so doesn't publish financials other than obligated by law.
[17:53] <Speiros> mhsabbagh There is a #canonical-webteam and a #canonical-sysadmin site and maybe one of these could help you better?
[17:53] <ioria> HexaChop,  nothing more ?
[17:53] <HexaChop> ioria, nothing.
[17:54] <ioria> HexaChop,  reboot
[17:54] <nedstark> popey, mhsabbagh http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/01/ubuntu-maker-boosted-revenue-in-2013-but-doubled-loss-to-21-million/
[17:54] <mhsabbagh> popey: I am asking because I read a report on arstechnica about their profits in 2013, will definitly check the other IRC channels.
[17:55] <Speiros> Oops sorry popey:)  I didn't see that post.
[17:55] <nedstark> the last news we had
[17:55] <Dreaman> HexaChop    apt intall kill himself :)
[17:55] <mhsabbagh> Actually that was the link I was referring to.
[17:55] <popey> mhsabbagh: its not accurate
[17:55] <HexaChop> ioria, ok
[17:57] <pavlos> mhsabbagh, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_(company)
[17:57] <popey> mhsabbagh: anything in particular you're looking for?
[17:57] <popey> (note that the financial report linked to doesn't cover the whole company)
[17:58] <mhsabbagh> popey: I am working on a report for the major 3 Linux companies, I found the reports for RedHat and SUSE, but couldn't find anything related for Canonical's profits, which is why I am searching.
[17:58] <popey> mhsabbagh: yeah, you won't, and the ones you find, are not accurate.
[17:59] <pavlos> mhsabbagh, the wiki page shows about $66 million revenue in 2013
[17:59] <mhsabbagh> The ones I found for the other companies are official, yet, I hope to see something for Canonical's.
[17:59] <HexaChop> ioria, done.
[17:59] <mhsabbagh> pavlos: Yea bro, I already seen that page.
[17:59] <popey> mhsabbagh: they're public companies, we're not.
[18:00] <nedstark> i found their financial disclosure
[18:00] <nedstark> https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/document-api-images-prod/docs/BwrAYm2MYv-1rdb-x4uojUIoDDfBtvkV6d9VJ0soOU4/application-pdf?AWSAccessKeyId=ASIAJSCOKYWIAEHSFTPQ&Expires=1483898455&Signature=4IdvSfYh2%2B4EeW5z9Q%2FZafEojTk%3D&x-amz-security-token=FQoDYXdzEEYaDLkFgmLO%2B4k5J04oZCKcA78IGLBAC4Bs9yaAF51XpQ9SPYxYTTwZVlTltzEtcGgcwg9v%2Bs%2FUIMogVP47lu02zuZ4%2F4xLzBVrf1kTNN%2BkRZafrSkXVaxq4syroLNl0S9Cl%2F%2BDgZqM2BLezutv0sBhR1ayY8L9sd9CILgKl16vGJz%2F8Ib
[18:00] <nedstark> Zxs%2BAWJLkhBHeXWgG%2BrSskHI5jx7vcjvN9Fv2Y5XKCDPNVSH1tz%2Baf4EpUjb67IxRi%2FkN%2F%2BMho0E2LI1GhVtTv%2FLFESD5K6%2Ff80QjcLS9Wrp7z43aaHcfWbnb5Zk0ZOiH%2FN%2Bsqcc3zrDjz3AvBHa22bBMopUtM44%2FwvbaVXDzbnaLwxKdodH%2BsPUSEl89QqaR1rv8yE%2BAdeCAeKyz9%2Fb9MvDZus9vNwbOVbiJ3yqWo%2BMP4p0rlKXR7baQ1IQMsW3RJlNnMxCsJ0ZQnUUITL0%2FQLU6OOuO%2BGGfQZplYDPWjHMpieCDhdpTQeiWOF8zLclojCsau%2FJj1PdHTzPG2VkxBAa8VFFkHtqrnVt3CsKo2olClE6WVs5P4c0R%2BrUbfHrr4mlv768FuHgoouzIwwU%3D
[18:00] <nedstark> an insanely long link from the UK https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/05055134/filing-history
[18:00] <HexaChop> ioria, you there?
[18:00] <vegii> ubuntu server sure takes a long time for me to install on a nettop. It hangs on 83% (preparing linux-firmware (amd64)), I wonder if it's because it only has 1GB RAM
[18:00] <nedstark> that's where you can find the report
[18:01] <popey> nedstark: that's only canonical uk
[18:01] <yeats> vegii: 1GB should be fine to install ubuntu server
[18:01] <nedstark> popey, their physical headquarters is in the UK
[18:01] <yeats> vegii: might end up being too low for certain apps though
[18:02] <popey> nedstark: there's multiple companies in the group, not just UK.
[18:02] <HexaChop> popey, nedstark, what are you both talking about? Curiosity struck me.
[18:02] <yeats> vegii: if you have access to the terminal, tty4 should show logs
[18:02] <ledeni> HexaChop, still hang system?
[18:02] <vegii> yeats: Just wanted to set up a box that could run ddrescue or something like that for some hours
[18:02] <HexaChop> ledeni, what do u mean?
[18:02] <ViciousLooRoll> how secure is .htaccess on a TSL certified web facing folder?
[18:03] <HexaChop> ledeni, still unable to install anything
[18:03] <nedstark> HexaChop, the question above from mhsabbagh
[18:03] <HexaChop> ledeni, can I reinstall ubuntu using ubuntu without any other external device?
[18:04] <HexaChop> nedstark, I was briefly disconnected, could you repeat?
[18:04] <vegii> yeats: thanks. It did respond when I connected/disconnected a keyboard, so it's not completely frozen
[18:04] <Speiros> lol...funny name there ViciousLooRoll
[18:04] <ledeni> HexaChop, before you do it can you open software & updates
[18:04] <mhsabbagh> nedstark: I quickly checked some reports there and there are no real information, just general metadate with no numbers
[18:04] <HexaChop> ledeni, sure, mate.
[18:04] <nedstark> HexaChop, someone asked about canonical
[18:05] <HexaChop> nedstark, the company behind ubuntu?
[18:05] <mhsabbagh> Looks like it will be better if I can try to reach the company itself and ask if it exists, thx for everyone.
[18:05] <popey> mhsabbagh: you did, i work there :)
[18:05] <Speiros> best wishes mhsabbagh
[18:05] <frib> I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 and I can no longer see audio devices in control center, please help!
[18:05] <yeats> mhsabbagh: not trying to be glib - you might try a library too
[18:05] <Speiros> popey Cool
[18:05] <HexaChop> ledeni, what's next?
[18:05] <ledeni> HexaChop, and unclick restricted
[18:06] <mhsabbagh> popey: hmm, so no such information are released to the public anymore?
[18:06] <nedstark> the profit and loss account for 2015 says they made US$3,203,000 in profit in 2015 and had $22,664,000 in revenue
[18:06] <yeats> mhsabbagh: public library reference departments will have all kinds of company info
[18:06] <HexaChop> in that tab nothing is clicked, ledeni.
[18:06] <vegii> but there's no installation-related logs for over 15 minutes since unpacking linux-firmware ... .deb
[18:06] <popey> mhsabbagh: only where obligated by law, e.g. to companies house in the UK and IRS in usa
[18:06] <HexaChop> ledeni, everything from downloadable from the internet is disabled.
[18:07] <yeats> vegii: can you run 'top'?  (I don't remember whether that's available in the installer)
[18:07] <nedstark> they had about $60 million debt
[18:08] <frib> please help my audio devices have disapeared
[18:08] <ledeni> HexaChop, only cd rom is clicked
[18:08] <vegii> yeats: nope, no top
[18:08] <HexaChop> ledeni, NOTHING is clicked for some reason,
[18:08] <yeats> vegii: how about 'free'?
[18:08] <yeats> if it's a RAM issue, that would show it
[18:08] <HexaChop> ledeni, it is very weird, bro.
[18:09] <ledeni> HexaChop,can you mark everything from internet
[18:09] <HexaChop> ledeni, everything downloadable from the internet... checked.
[18:10] <vegii> yeats: there is some free memory (75692 of 884948), and swap isn't used
[18:10] <nedstark> canonical is actually a subsidiary of another company owned by shuttleworth called Futuristic Limited
[18:10] <yeats> vegii: probably not RAM then
[18:10] <ledeni> HexaChop,downloads from server :
[18:10] <HexaChop> ledeni, what?
[18:11] <Industrial> Hi.
[18:11] <Industrial> Can I ask a question here about the ubuntu/xenial64 Vagrant image?
[18:11] <HexaChop> ledeni: Main Server?
[18:11] <ledeni> HexaChop,yes
[18:11] <Speiros> Yes Industrial
[18:11] <Industrial> I have vb.gui=true, How do i log in to the VirtualBox window with a password?
[18:11] <HexaChop> ledeni, yup, main server,
[18:11] <Industrial> passwords are managed by using keys not username/password combo
[18:11] <Industrial> so I can not log in
[18:12] <ledeni> HexaChop,now revert
[18:12] <Industrial> or do `passwd` from within a `vagrant ssh` session (which uses the keys to log in)
[18:12] <HexaChop> ledeni why revert?
[18:12] <ledeni> HexaChop,option
[18:13] <HexaChop> ledeni, reverted, nothing is selected again
[18:14] <ledeni> HexaChop,do you have internet with this pc
[18:14] <HexaChop> ledeni, yes, sure, I am talking to you with it.
[18:14] <Industrial> Speiros: I can not call startx from the `vagrant ssh` session and then use my desktop in the VirtualBox window. X will error.
[18:15] <Speiros> Industrial I don't know anything about VirtualBox I'm afraid.  Someone here may know though:)
[18:16] <frib> I used to be able to see my audio devices in unity-control-center but I no longer can.  Please help!  Thanks
[18:16] <Industrial> it's more a password thing. Vagrant logs into ssh with keys. I dont know the password of the 'ubuntu' user.
[18:16] <Industrial> of this vagrant image/box :)
[18:17] <HexaChop> ledeni, what should I do next/
[18:17] <ledeni> HexaChop,and once you revert all boxes are empty
[18:17] <HexaChop> ledeni, exactly.
[18:18] <ledeni> HexaChop,try to click all and close software app
[18:18] <mhsabbagh> popey: This reports gives good information about it up to 2015, since Canonical is UK based, is it accurate enough? https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/05055134/filing-history/MzEzNTg1NzA3NmFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0
[18:18] <mhsabbagh> report*
[18:18] <Speiros> Industrial I'm not sure either, but are you being asked by terminal for a password?
[18:19] <popey> mhsabbagh: again, only part of the company
[18:19] <Industrial> Hm. I can do `sudo su -` then `passwd ubuntu` so I dont have to enter a password cause it's root.
[18:19] <Industrial> Speiros: ^
[18:19] <CodeMouse92> I keep getting a popup complaining about "Failure to download extra data files" with "ttf-mscorefonts-installer", but when I click "Run this action now", it attempts to download stuff and fails. What's going on?
[18:20] <CodeMouse92> (I can't see the exact failure - the window closes too fast)
[18:20] <HexaChop> ledeni, it is downloading something now.
[18:20] <mhsabbagh> popey: I mean, are there any headquarters for the Canonical group else than UK?
[18:20] <Speiros> Industrial Ok, so it's separate from the sudo password then it seems?
[18:20] <popey> mhsabbagh: multiple companies, multiple offices
[18:20] <HexaChop> ledeni, done.
[18:21] <tjsimmons> well. back to having apt upgrade issues
[18:21] <mhsabbagh> Hmm, I see now. So this report is just for the UK office.
[18:21] <tjsimmons> tried.. four mirrors so far
[18:21] <nedstark> privately owned international companies are usually divided up to avoid taxes as much as possible
[18:22] <ledeni> HexaChop, sudo apt-get install hexchat
[18:23] <nedstark> most likely their us subsidary makes most of their revenues
[18:23] <HexaChop> ledeni I got disconnected, sorry.
[18:24] <ledeni> HexaChop, sudo apt-get install hexchat
[18:24] <mhsabbagh> nedstark: Thank you for the help :)
[18:24] <HexaChop> ledeni, it installed! :O
[18:24] <ledeni> yes
[18:24] <HexaChop> BREAKTHROUGH OF THE YEAR!
[18:25] <lordmantis> howdy
[18:25] <HexaChop> ledeni, what's next?
[18:25] <ledeni> HexaChop,can you open software & updates
[18:26] <HexaChop> ledeni, sure
[18:26] <HexaChop> ledeni, what's next?
[18:27] <ledeni> go to additional drivers
[18:27] <HexaChop> ledeni, next?
[18:28] <ledeni> HexaChop,what options you have
[18:28] <HexaChop> lots of nvidia options, ledeni.
[18:28] <HexaChop> ledeni, when I apply for nvidia driver, it returns back to the default driver of ubuntu
[18:31] <ledeni> HexaChop,everygo now try sudo apt-get install nvidia-364
[18:33] <HexaChop> ledeni, E: Package 'nvidia-364' has no installation candidate
[18:33] <ledeni> HexaChop,everygo now try sudo apt-get install nvidia-367
[18:34] <MOUD> I'm getting the following erros when I try to use "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" : http://pastebin.com/pUKvN6ck ; how can I fix it?
[18:34] <HexaChop> ledeni, E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[18:36] <Speiros> Industrial Have you found any information on your situation?
[18:36] <ledeni> HexaChop,sudo apt-get clean all
[18:37] <HexaChop> ledeni, done
[18:38] <ledeni> HexaChop, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get full-upgrade
[18:40] <HexaChop> ledeni, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:40] <xXEoflaOEXx> MOUD: it seems that kdeconnect and kdeconnect-plasma are not found for xenial in amd64 on the ppa.
[18:40] <ledeni> HexaChop, sudo apt-get install vim
[18:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[18:42] <MOUD> xXEoflaOEXx, I know, but how can fix it? Are there any alternative packages?
[18:42] <HexaChop> ledeni, E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[18:43] <fund> Who replied me last?
[18:43] <fund> I need log
[18:43] <fund> bazhang
[18:44] <chkumugne> Salut!
[18:45] <ledeni> HexaChop, sorry mate but this is not going anywhere
[18:47] <HexaChop> ledeni, I can see that... Nobody else could help? You couldn't help further?
[18:48] <iresf> hello everyone
[18:48] <iresf> any Persian  ubuntu user here  ?
[18:48] <Speiros> hi iresf
[18:48] <Speiros> Not sure mate.
[18:49] <iresf> ty    Speiros
[18:49] <iresf> i would like to find one
[18:49] <xXEoflaOEXx> MOUD: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+files/kdeconnect_1.0.1-1ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1_amd64.deb https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+files/kdeconnect-plasma_1.0.1-1ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1_amd64.deb
[18:50] <HexaChop> Speiros. It has been nearly 2 FULL DAYS... It is done...
[18:50] <Speiros> Yep.  Is it working now?
[18:50] <HexaChop> Speiros. THIS is impossible.
[18:51] <xXEoflaOEXx> MOUD: download these then install them by: cd Downloads, sudo dpkg -i kdeconnect*.deb
[18:51] <HexaChop> Speiros. NOW I get this: E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[18:51] <MOUD> xXEoflaOEXx, ok
[18:52] <Speiros> HexaChop How are those broken packages affecting things that you use?
[18:52] <Speiros> HexaChop, I mean, as I'm using an older version, but it's fine for what I use it for at present.
[18:52] <HexaChop> Speiros IDk what is going on.
[18:53] <Speiros> HexaChop, Have a play on your computer, and see what is good and what isn't.  Maybe the broken packages don't matter.  Do you have sound for instance?
[18:54] <HexaChop> Speiros. Yup. Youtube works.
[18:55] <Speiros> HexaChop, So the broken dependencies might not matter...at least yet:)
[18:55] <HexaChop> SP
[18:55] <HexaChop> Speiros, it was gone before.
[18:55] <HexaChop> Speiros, it just appeared out of nowhere.
[18:56] <xXEoflaOEXx> MOUD: Is the download finished?
[18:56] <MOUD> xXEoflaOEXx, yes, it just finished.
[18:56] <xXEoflaOEXx> MOUD: Open the terminal, then run: cd Downloads, then sudo dpkg -i kdeconnect*.deb
[18:57] <Speiros> HexaChop It can be frustrating looking, but if things are working, and secure, then the goal is accomplished.
[18:57] <MOUD> xXEoflaOEXx, I did but it gave me errors: http://pastebin.com/QgB503Sq
[18:58] <HexaChop> Speiros, DRIVER is not installed, and nothing is accomplished.
[18:58] <HexaChop> ledeni, could you please and try to assist further?
[18:58] <ledeni> HexaChop, ok
[18:59] <ledeni> HexaChop,can you open software & updates
[18:59] <ledeni> HexaChop, and unclick restricted
[19:00] <HexaChop> ledeni, OK, thanks.
[19:00] <HexaChop> ledeni, unchecked
[19:00] <ledeni> HexaChop,sudo apt-get clean all
[19:01] <ledeni> HexaChop, and sudo apt-get install vim
[19:01] <HexaChop> ledeni, done
[19:01] <xXEoflaOEXx> MOUD: Move these 2 .deb files to /var/cache/apt/archives using sudo mv kdeconnect*.deb /var/cache/apt/archives, then do sudo updatedb, then install kubuntu-desktop again.
[19:01] <HexaChop> ledeni, E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[19:02] <MOUD> xXEoflaOEXx, ok
[19:02] <ledeni> HexaChop, and sudo apt-get -f install
[19:02] <australopithecus> Hello when I plug in an HDMI cable I get video but sound doesnt go through my TV, I have checked sound preferences and no hardware or output selection is available for the HDMI cable, can anyone help me? I am using Ubuntu Mate 16.1
[19:03] <louisdk> How do I install shift-command in Ubuntu?
[19:03] <HexaChop> ledeni, Reading package lists... Done
[19:03] <HexaChop> Building dependency tree
[19:03] <HexaChop> Reading state information... Done
[19:03] <HexaChop> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[19:03] <ledeni> HexaChop, and sudo apt-get install vim
[19:04] <HexaChop> ledeni,
[19:04] <earth_> !info shift-command
[19:04] <HexaChop> ledeni, E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[19:04] <MOUD> xXEoflaOEXx, more dependencies:  http://pastebin.com/140uCZbX
[19:04] <HexaChop> !info ubuntu
[19:04] <Speiros> HexaChop What is the broken package doing?
[19:05] <xXEoflaOEXx> MOUD: sudo apt-get -f install
[19:05] <HexaChop> Speiros, it says that I HAD broken packages... WUT? :O
[19:05] <Ammonium351> Hi. I want to debug a program that is running from the terminal. is there anyway to do debugging using eclipse? please note that i am still a beginner. thanks
[19:05] <Speiros> HexaChop, If it's not causing any dramas, it's not worth stressing over.
[19:05] <Speiros> HexaChop, In my opinion, that is.
[19:06] <HexaChop> Speiros only that it doesn't let me instakk
[19:06] <Ammonium351> the program is written in C
[19:06] <HexaChop> Speiros only that it doesn't let me install anything. "no biggie".
[19:06] <earth_> what is this shift-command louisdk . I can't seem to find it in apt
[19:06] <australopithecus> nvm im dumb
[19:06] <l0llip0p> Ammonium351: maybe you should try #eclipse channel
[19:06] <Speiros> HexaChop, So you can't install anything?  Have you tried the software centre?
[19:06] <HexaChop> Speiros, it doesn't even work.
[19:06] <pavlos> HexaChop, ledeni suggestion: could synaptic fix the broken packages?
[19:07] <Speiros> HexaChop, the software centre doesn't open for you?
[19:07] <Ammonium351> l0llip0p thanks I will try there
[19:07] <Speiros> HexaChop, It's the orange briefcase thing on  your left side toolbar (for want of a better word)
[19:08] <HexaChop> if you mean ubuntu software, it does open up
[19:08] <louisdk> earth_:It stands for shift positional parameters and is used in bash scripting.
[19:08] <MOUD> xXEoflaOEXx, it's done. now what?
[19:08] <Speiros> HexaChop, Okay, try to upload  say...gweled
[19:08] <HexaChop> Speiros, but I doubt you can find drivers there.
[19:08] <xXEoflaOEXx> MOUD: Reinstall plasma-desktop again
[19:09] <Jordan_U> louisdk: shift is a bash builtin. Ubuntu comes with bash by default. I'm not quite sure what you want to install.
[19:09] <HexaChop> pavlos, synaptic?
[19:09] <Speiros> HexaChop, Depending on the drivers, yes and no.  If you've programs already on your computer, they should be called in automatically with the commands.  Still, I think you're missing one driver, and taht it works fine.
[19:09] <HexaChop> Speiros, it's my GPU Driver, I am stuck at very blurry graphics.
[19:10] <Speiros> HexaChop, Okay.
[19:10] <ledeni> HexaChop, just another package manager
[19:10] <HexaChop> ledeni, what do u mean?
[19:10] <basedmars> According to this website http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/scripting/posparams, it is already built in louisdk
[19:11] <ledeni> HexaChop,synaptic ==> just another package manager
[19:11] <pavlos> HexaChop, synaptic is a package manager
[19:11] <chris32> Hi. What are some chiclet keyboards that are compatible with linux distros? I'm thinking about the apple one. any suggestions?
[19:11] <louisdk> Jordan_U, basedmars: A friend of mine can't find the command in bash on his Ubuntu. Whatever we just use my Debian or Arch box instead.
[19:11] <HexaChop> ledeni, let's fix those broken packages. Maybe pavlos could help, too.
[19:12] <Speiros> HexaChop, There are drivers on Synaptic, but as mentioned, you will be pulling drivers to your machine that may be incorrect.
[19:12] <pavlos> HexaChop, synaptic could be under Admin tools. If you dont have it (and as I understood, you cannot install anything), wont help
[19:12] <l0llip0p> HexaChop: do you know which packages are broken?
[19:12] <HexaChop> l0llip0p certainly not, it doesn't show.
[19:13] <l0llip0p> HexaChop: try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[19:13] <HexaChop> l0llip0p, no output.
[19:13] <pavlos> HexaChop, to recap, you were able to do update/upgrade but trying to install anything complains about broken packages. install -f did not help, right?
[19:14] <HexaChop> pavlos, sounds aaaaabbbboooouuuttt right.
[19:14] <basedmars> louisdk, the command is 'shift' in bash ubuntu 16.04. Got it from the man page
[19:14] <ledeni> HexaChop, apt-mark showhold
[19:14] <xXEoflaOEXx> MOUD: Is it installing?
[19:14] <HexaChop> ledeni, no output.
[19:14] <l0llip0p> HexaChop: what does 'dpkg -l |grep -v ii' give you?
[19:15] <HexaChop> l0llip0p, take a look. http://termbin.com/teu3
[19:16] <MOUD> xXEoflaOEXx, it just finished but got an error. http://pastebin.com/vxfA5wLr
[19:16] <ledeni> HexaChop, dpkg --get-selections | grep hold
[19:17] <l0llip0p> HexaChop: okay what does: 'dpkg --get-selections |grep -v installed'
[19:18] <HexaChop> ledeni, no output
[19:19] <twinroses> So, I'm trying to get a win8.1 machine to see a couple of shared printers on ubuntu 16.10. They are both enabled and shared, but the windows box is not seeing them. Any suggestions?
[19:19] <HexaChop> l0llip0p, http://termbin.com/hoym.
[19:19] <HexaChop> l0llip0p, http://termbin.com/hoym
[19:19] <ledeni> HexaChop,sudo apt-get autoremove
[19:19] <xXEoflaOEXx> MOUD: Try to download this: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications/+files/kaccounts-providers_16.04.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa61_amd64.deb
[19:20] <Jordan_U> louisdk: How exactly are they trying to use "shift"? It's definitely there. It's "shift" rather than "shift-command", and you won't find it in /bin/ because it's a builtin rather than an external command (because it needs to be).
[19:20] <MOUD> xXEoflaOEXx, ok, then what?
[19:21] <vegii> TIL: installing ubuntu on (apparently) a slow pendrive works, but it takes HOURS
[19:21] <HexaChop> ledeni, Reading package lists... Done
[19:21] <HexaChop> Building dependency tree
[19:21] <HexaChop> Reading state information... Done
[19:21] <HexaChop> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[19:21] <ledeni> HexaChop, sudo apt-get update
[19:21] <nedstark> vegii, adding persistence takes a very long time
[19:22] <xXEoflaOEXx> MOUD: Open the terminal again, and cd to Downloads then do: sudo dpkg -i kaccounts-providers*.deb
[19:22] <nedstark> usb-c will hopefully change all that
[19:23] <vegii> nedstark: nah, I mean installing it, not creating a liveusb
[19:23] <ledeni> HexaChop, sudo apt-get full-upgrade
[19:23] <basedmars> How's the os speed nedstark . Any lag or freezing?
[19:23] <MOUD> xXEoflaOEXx, http://pastebin.com/nBYUyz5p
[19:23] <pavlos> HexaChop, have you tried, sudo dpkg --configure -a (cant remember)
[19:23] <HexaChop> ledeni, http://pastebin.com/mqKyxLFs
[19:23] <basedmars> I mean vegii . Sorry nedstark
[19:23] <nedstark> basedmars, i've never had good luck with pen drives OSs except the non-persistent kind
[19:24] <HexaChop> pavlos, I can't remember too.
[19:24] <l0llip0p> he has
[19:24] <l0llip0p> sry he/she
[19:24] <xXEoflaOEXx> MOUD, sudo apt-get purge account-plugin-google
[19:24] <sun45261> hi guys
[19:24] <vegii> basedmars: it's still on 83% installing, but the terminal is responsive...
[19:25] <sun45261> does anyone know how i can invert the fn-keys-function in xubuntu?
[19:25] <ioria> HexaChop,  trusty ?  you have a trusty repo
[19:25] <guillaume___> hello, it's been 2 days that i'm trying to create and seed a torrent from my ubuntu server machine and it is not working, neither downloading nor seeding. I have installed a vnc server just for that and even in transmission, i manage to create the torrent, get all the file but there's no seeding, even if i add a ubuntu torrent from the official website it doesn't download, i have opened the required port so ...
[19:25] <sun45261> atm if i want to use the standard f1,f2,...,f12 keys I have to hold down the fn-key
[19:26] <vegii> guillaume___: is that a vps?
[19:26] <timyp> guillaume___ is your IS blocking torrents?
[19:26] <timyp> *ISP
[19:26] <HexaChop> iora repo?
[19:26] <HexaChop> ioria, repo?
[19:26] <ledeni> HexaChop, open software & updates
[19:26] <ioria> HexaChop,  repository
[19:26] <HexaChop> ledeni, sure
[19:26] <timyp> what torrent client are you using?
[19:27] <HexaChop> ioria, where are repositories and what they do?
[19:27] <Speiros> HexaChop, Trusty being the 14.4 version
[19:27] <ledeni> HexaChop, other software
[19:27] <ioria> HexaChop,  they give you sw for your distro
[19:27] <MOUD> xXEoflaOEXx, it's done.
[19:27] <HexaChop> ledeni, yes?
[19:27] <ioria> HexaChop,  but you are yakkety not trusty
[19:27] <xXEoflaOEXx> MOUD: Now do: sudo dpkg -i kaccounts-providers*.deb
[19:27] <HexaChop> ioria, ye, I think it is yakkety
[19:27] <HexaChop> ledeni, what next?
[19:27] <ioria> HexaChop,  trusty is 14.04 you are 16.10
[19:28] <MOUD> xXEoflaOEXx, same error but now is facebook-plugin  :S
[19:28] <HexaChop> ioria exactly
[19:28] <MOUD> *plugin-facebook
[19:28] <ledeni> HexaChop, untick http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu
[19:28] <ioria> HexaChop,  so you shouldn't have it
[19:28] <xXEoflaOEXx> MOUD, sudo apt-get purge plugin-facebook
[19:28] <Speiros> ioria How does a person check to see which repository they've got?
[19:29] <HexaChop> ledeni, unticked four boxes.
[19:29] <HexaChop> ioria, what are you suggesting?
[19:29] <ioria> HexaChop,  apt update or chech your /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:29] <MOUD> xXEoflaOEXx, it's done. Also it seems that the package was installed successfully
[19:29] <ledeni> HexaChop, ok
[19:29] <ioria> HexaChop,  i don't know how a trusty repo is in your sources.list
[19:29] <xXEoflaOEXx> MOUD: now reinstall kubuntu-desktop.
[19:29] <ledeni> HexaChop,sudo apt-get clean all
[19:29] <HexaChop> ioria, Hit:1 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security InRelease
[19:29] <HexaChop> Hit:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety InRelease
[19:29] <HexaChop> Ign:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty InRelease
[19:29] <HexaChop> Hit:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-updates InRelease
[19:29] <HexaChop> Hit:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty Release
[19:29] <HexaChop> Reading package lists... Done
[19:29] <ledeni> HexaChop, sudo apt-get update
[19:30] <Ed_> using something like root explorer or its unpaided verson
[19:30] <ioria> HexaChop,  i think it's wrong
[19:30] <MOUD> xXEoflaOEXx, that's odd: http://pastebin.com/ADDZ3NNS
[19:30] <ioria> HexaChop,  comment the trusty sources with '#' in sources.list
[19:31] <xXEoflaOEXx> MOUD: That means it installed kubuntu-desktop successfully.
[19:31] <MOUD> xXEoflaOEXx, ok, going to restart then.
[19:31] <basedmars> I wonder how the repo got mixed up in the first place ledeni . What's the lsb_release
[19:31] <HexaChop> ledeni, I can't send you the log, but it is basically the same as for iora.
[19:32] <HexaChop> ledeni, ioria*
[19:32] <xXEoflaOEXx> basedmars, lsb_release is for displaying a version of Ubuntu you are using.
[19:32] <ledeni> HexaChop, sudo apt-get update
[19:32] <HexaChop> ioria, sources.list is where?
[19:32] <l0llip0p> HexaChop: /etc/apt/
[19:32] <pavlos> HexaChop, /etc/apt/
[19:32] <basedmars> Yes xXEoflaOEXx thank you
[19:32] <xXEoflaOEXx> basedmars, you are welcome.
[19:33] <HexaChop> ledeni, http://termbin.com/up2v
[19:33] <basedmars> I mean what is the lsb_release for the said system
[19:33] <ioria> HexaChop,  /etc/apt/sources.list     the 'ri' flag you have in the dpkg output is weird ... it means it is currently installed, but is about to be removed
[19:33] <HexaChop> l0llip0p, pavlos where to open it?
[19:33] <lucas-arg> exit
[19:33] <HexaChop> ioria how to get to that dir?
[19:34] <pavlos> HexaChop, you can cat /etc/apt/sources.list to view it
[19:34] <ioria> HexaChop, sudo nano  /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:34] <Xano> Hi! What would be a good place to ask questions about Duplicity? AFAIK they have no IRC channel of their own.
[19:34] <tatertots> HexaChop: any luck booting from anything at all yet?
[19:34] <HexaChop> pavlos, ioria, l0llip0p, cat: /etc/apt/sources.lis: No such file or directory
[19:34] <ioria> HexaChop, *list
[19:35] <ioria> not lis
[19:35] <hwpplayer1> hi , i have an iso 16.04 LTS . is it the latest version of Ubuntu Desktop
[19:35] <MOUD> xXEoflaOEXx, I restarted the laptop but ubuntu didn't ask which interface to run, it automatically open the default one (ubuntu)
[19:35] <HexaChop> tatertots, I am in linux but unable to install drivers, amte.
[19:35] <ledeni> HexaChop, sudo nano  /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:35] <HexaChop> tatertots, mate*
[19:35] <xXEoflaOEXx> MOUD, Does it automatically login?
[19:35] <HexaChop> ledeni, thanks.
[19:35] <basedmars> It's the latest version for the LTS line hwpplayer1 . The latest one is 16.10
[19:35] <HexaChop> ioria, deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety main universe multiverse #Adde$
[19:36] <Bashing-om> hwpplayer1: 16.04 is the lastest Long term support release . There is the short term 16.10 available .
[19:36] <MOUD> xXEoflaOEXx, no, it's password protected
[19:36] <guillaume___> vegii and timyp not it's a dedicated server, but i now managed to make the seeding work but for some reason it doesn't download on the other end, i can see "seeding to 1 of 1 connected user" but i think it could be that it seeds to the tracker does that make sens ?
[19:36] <ioria> HexaChop,  that command gives you the ability to edit the file ... move with arrows keys , find the 'trusty sources' and commant them
[19:37] <ioria> HexaChop,  but maybe it's a better a new one
[19:37] <xXEoflaOEXx> MOUD, Then logout, look at the Ubujntu logo, and click on it, that should display between Ubuntu and Plasma.
[19:37] <hwpplayer1> ok i will install 16.04 then
[19:37] <MOUD> xXEoflaOEXx, ok
[19:37] <HexaChop> ioria, http://pastebin.com/Tk74EM1t
[19:38] <Gamemako> Good afternoon, mates
[19:38] <ioria> HexaChop,  it's wrong
[19:38] <Gamemako> Anyone have much experience with efibootmgr issues? My google-fu has failed me.
[19:38] <HexaChop> gamemako, hi.
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> Gamemako  good evening
[19:38] <HexaChop> ioria, what are you suggesting?
[19:39] <ioria> HexaChop,  replace with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23766189/
[19:39] <pavlos> HexaChop, I think any line with trusty should be commented
[19:39] <ducasse> !ask | Gamemako
[19:39] <ioria> HexaChop,  as before , cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.back
[19:40] <timyp> Guliianume____ how many seeds are there?
[19:40] <timyp> *seeders
[19:40] <HexaChop> ioria, I can't edit the file.
[19:40] <MOUD> xXEoflaOEXx, it's working now, I just had to change to "Plasma" in the login like you said. Thank you very much for your help and patience.
[19:40] <l0llip0p> HexaChop: you have to super user
[19:40] <xXEoflaOEXx> MOUD, welcome.
[19:40] <ioria> HexaChop, use sudo ..  then copy and paste the content of the link i gave you in sources.list
[19:40] <HexaChop> l0llip0p, ioria, it is already sudo...
[19:40] <xXEoflaOEXx> HexaChop, Open it using sudo gedit.
[19:41] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.back
[19:41] <HexaChop> ioria, no output
[19:41] <Xano> I'm using Duplicity, and making a full back-up and listing the current files works well. Only when trying to make an incremental back-up does Duplicity fail (output: http://pastebin.com/vjbY9zKK)
[19:42] <Xano> This error does not show up when searching online
[19:42] <ioria> HexaChop,  ok sudo nano /etc/sources.list
[19:42] <ioria> HexaChop,  ok sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:42] <HexaChop> xXEoflaOEXx, ioria. xXEoflaOEXx, Thank You.
[19:42] <xXEoflaOEXx> HexaChop, welcome.
[19:42] <ioria> HexaChop,  don't use sudo with gui apps
[19:42] <ioria> HexaChop,  but gksu...
[19:42] <darkblue_b> hi all - I just added a new drive to a 1404 machine.. there is no activity I know of, yet there is a steady 6M/sec write going on .. what is this ?
[19:43] <ioria> !gksu
[19:43] <HexaChop> ioria, I have change the source.list into the one you have specified earlier.
[19:43] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo apt update   | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:44] <basedmars> pkexec is the better alternative imho
[19:44] <HexaChop> ioria, http://termbin.com/a3oa
[19:44] <ioria> HexaChop,  it's ok for me, now
[19:45] <ioria> HexaChop,  if you installed nvidia from ppa yuo may need to  add it again
[19:45] <HexaChop> ioria it is not installed at all
[19:46] <pavlos> HexaChop, can you install vim now (to make sure you can install packages)
[19:46] <ioria> HexaChop,  i see something in your last pastebinits
[19:46] <ioria> *saw
[19:46] <darkblue_b> any idea on how to find out what process is writing ?   I search `lsof` for a volume name but nothing
[19:47] <HexaChop> pavlos, sure. Command?
[19:47] <pavlos> HexaChop, sudo apt install vim
[19:47] <l0llip0p> darkblue_b: what does lsblk give you?
[19:47] <jatt> darkblue_b: iotop
[19:47] <HexaChop> pavlos, thx
[19:47] <HexaChop> pavlos, ioria, works.
[19:47] <darkblue_b> whoa - lsblk - new to me
[19:47] <ioria> HexaChop,  dpkg -l vim
[19:47] <pavlos> HexaChop, cookies to ioria
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> darkblue_b  try   lsblk -f
[19:48] <darkblue_b> yes   sdd         ext4              blu317 /blu317
[19:48] <HexaChop> ioria, pavlos, http://termbin.com/f6y6
[19:48] <darkblue_b> .. thats the drive
[19:48] <ioria> HexaChop,  hurra
[19:48] <darkblue_b> what cryptic set of options for iotop do you suggest ?
[19:48] <HexaChop> ioria no joke. :D
[19:49] <pavlos> HexaChop, you no longer report broken packages
[19:49] <ioria> HexaChop,  sudo apt full-upgrade
[19:49] <HexaChop> pavlos I think so
[19:49] <HexaChop> ioria, pavlos, IT UPGRADES FINALLY!
[19:49] <pavlos> HexaChop, you can do a sudo apt upgrade
[19:50] <darkblue_b> jatt iotop topions ?
[19:50] <ioria> HexaChop,  ok.... just wait, you may need to use -f again
[19:50] <HexaChop> ioria, kk.
[19:50] <basedmars> man iotop darkblue_b
[19:50] <darkblue_b> oh comon
[19:50] <hwpplayer1> basedmars : why i can't see 16.04.1 but only 16.04
[19:50] <darkblue_b> if people suggest iotop then say the full line
[19:51] <pac1> looking for someone who knows ubuntu netorking.
[19:51] <pavlos> HexaChop, I suggest install synaptic (good to have ... sudo apt install synaptic)
[19:51] <pac1> Questions:
[19:51] <pac1> Is is possible to set up two interfaces on the same subnet?
[19:51] <HexaChop> pavlos, installed.
[19:51] <darkblue_b> anyway I see this 6M/sec constant WRITE is still going on this newly added drive.. no idea
[19:51] <pavlos> pac1 you mean eht0 and eth0:1
[19:51] <basedmars> what's your 'lsb_release -d' hwpplayer1
[19:52] <hwpplayer1> basedmars : Description:	Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[19:52] <HexaChop> ioria, I am awaiting your command.
[19:52] <basedmars> I suggest 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade' hwpplayer1
[19:53] <pavlos> HexaChop, to recap, your system did update/upgrade and CAN install packages
[19:53] <hwpplayer1> basedmars : this is the only way to insstall a fresh system. then maybe i can sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade then maybe
[19:53] <pac1> sort of.  these get renamed. and its usb0 and eth0 which get renamed to enp0s20u10u1 andenp3s0
[19:53] <HexaChop> pavlos, yup.
[19:54] <pac1> enp3s0 is the usual connection to my router.
[19:54] <pavlos> HexaChop, the next issue is your video I guess
[19:54] <pac1> the other is a Raspberry pi connected via usb.
[19:54] <ioria> HexaChop,  what you wanna do ?
[19:54] <pavlos> HexaChop, which nvidia driver
[19:54] <ioria> oh, isee
[19:54] <HexaChop> ioria you said something about -f command
[19:55] <ioria> HexaChop,  only if you have issues
[19:55] <hwpplayer1> basedmars : do you have any other suggestion ?
[19:55] <HexaChop> ioria, I can't install NVIDIA drivers, too.
[19:55] <ioria> HexaChop,  what command did you issued ?
[19:55] <HexaChop> ioria let's start from the beggining.
[19:55] <ioria> right
[19:55] <pavlos> HexaChop, bow you have the proper repo, it should work
[19:55] <HexaChop> beginning*, ioria.
[19:55] <pavlos> now
[19:55] <Jymmm> I have a Lenovo S10 netbook, and just installed the "netbook" variant of ubuntu. Would the latest LTS of ubuntu still support my hardware if I upgrade?
[19:56] <basedmars> Did you mean you want to install Ubuntu-16.04.1 on a fresh system hwpplayer1
[19:56] <ioria> HexaChop,  what command are you using to tell that 'I can't install NVIDIA drivers' ?
[19:56] <hwpplayer1> basedmars : i can download the iso again and setup the system again , do i need that ?
[19:56] <HexaChop> ioria it was probably because of the wrong repo,
[19:56] <HexaChop> ioria I tried various commands.
[19:57] <ioria> HexaChop,  dpkg -l | grep nvidia*
[19:57] <HexaChop> ioria, no output.
[19:57] <basedmars> Yes. However you could use zsync service to save bandwidth by updating the previous iso hwpplayer1
[19:57] <ioria> HexaChop,   ls /etc/apt/ sources.list.d
[19:57] <darkblue_b> ok iotop genuii  -- it looks like  ext4lazyinit
[19:58] <ioria> HexaChop,   ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[19:58] <ducasse> hwpplayer1: if all updates are installed you are essentially on 16.04.1
[19:58] <darkblue_b> this is 1404, I dont recall seeing that, but the name sounds ok
[19:58] <codfection> how to monitor network activities in ubuntu?
[19:58] <HexaChop> ioria, graphics-drivers-ubuntu-ppa-yakkety.list
[19:58] <HexaChop> graphics-drivers-ubuntu-ppa-yakkety.list.save
[19:58] <hwpplayer1> ducasse : ok , i'll install all updates and work like 16.04.1
[19:58] <ioria> i knew that
[19:59] <ioria> HexaChop,   you need to add again the source in sources.list if you want to use that ppa
[20:00] <HexaChop> ioria, how?
[20:00] <pac1> condfection, what network activities?
[20:00] <HexaChop> ioria, any easy way to do that?
[20:00] <ioria> HexaChop,   and we want to use that ? :þ
[20:00] <HexaChop> ioria, wut?
[20:01] <pac1> codfection, what network activities?
[20:01] <ioria> HexaChop, sigh .....   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa    and sudo apt-get update
[20:02] <HexaChop> ioria done
[20:02] <ioria> HexaChop,  updated ?
[20:02] <HexaChop> ioria, sorry for inconveniences. :)
[20:02] <HexaChop> ioria. Yup.
[20:03] <ioria> HexaChop,  ok... and you want to install nvidia drivers ?
[20:03] <HexaChop> ioria, youp, hence I have NVIDIA GPUs.
[20:03] <ioria> HexaChop,   sudo lshw -c Video
[20:03] <HexaChop> ioria, yup*
[20:03] <ioria> HexaChop,   sudo lshw -c Video
[20:04] <HexaChop> ioria, http://termbin.com/omhi
[20:04] <ioria> HexaChop,   using nomodeset ?
[20:05] <HexaChop> ioria, wut?
[20:05] <ioria> HexaChop,   are you booting with nomodeset   in grub ?
[20:05] <HexaChop> ioria, yup.
[20:06] <ioria> HexaChop,   ok
[20:06] <ioria> HexaChop,   can you paste  ubuntu-drivers list
[20:07] <HexaChop> ioria, http://termbin.com/3gbn
[20:07] <ioria> HexaChop,   we can try 375 ...
[20:08] <codfection> pac1, f.e. amazon services being used without my consent.
[20:08] <ioria> HexaChop,   what cpu do you have ?
[20:08] <HexaChop> ioria, let's do it. i7 6700k 4GHZ 4-Core.
[20:08] <ioria> f
[20:08] <ioria> you're a mister
[20:08] <HexaChop> ioria what do you mean?
[20:08] <codfection> damn and still running ubuntu? its a gaming CPU man!
[20:09] <ioria> HexaChop,   nothing :þ
[20:09] <HexaChop> codfection, I have windows, too, linux is for programming. :)
[20:09] <codfection> HexaChop, ok nice.
[20:09] <HexaChop> ioria, it shows :?...
[20:09] <codfection> HexaChop, which language?
[20:09] <HexaChop> codfection, ty.
[20:09] <HexaChop> codfection, eng.
[20:09] <ioria> HexaChop,   never installed for 2 1070 ....
[20:09] <codfection> programming language :|
[20:10] <HexaChop> codfection I have 2x ASUS STRIX 1070 GPUs. and 32GB of RAM
[20:10] <codfection> HexaChop, ubuntu's sluggish unity still crashes on your beast PC? (internal error has occured) ?
[20:10] <ioria> HexaChop,   prepare for purging operations .... :)
[20:10] <HexaChop> codfection, python and html, looking forward to C++ and other languages I will leanr while using linux.
[20:11] <Gamemako> Okay, so here's the gist. I have another crazy 32-bit EFI laptop here (Lenovo Flex 4). Installed Ubuntu, but can't boot directly. Using bootable USB and booting to the internal SD card via grub works. I have installed grub-efi-ia32 and all, but no dice on getting it to boot. The BIOS doesn't recognize the EFI partition or grub, goes to legacy/BIOS boot grub-rescue and tries to find i386-pc which doesn't exist (and can't exist, else
[20:11] <ioria> HexaChop,   sudo apt-get install nvidia-375
[20:11] <HexaChop> codfection, surprisingly, it does crash a lot.
[20:11] <codfection> HexaChop, what error?
[20:11] <codfection> HexaChop, ubuntu is meant to crash. lol
[20:11] <HexaChop> codfection had over 500 errors while launching before.
[20:12] <codfection> HexaChop, and no crashes in windows right?
[20:12] <HexaChop> ioria, it is successfully installing.
[20:12] <HexaChop> cofection yup.
[20:12] <codfection> HexaChop, yup, that shows how failed ubuntu is
[20:12] <HexaChop> codfection, yup.
[20:12] <ioria> HexaChop,   wait ...
[20:12] <HexaChop> ioria, yes?
[20:12] <ioria> HexaChop,   using encryption, right ?
[20:13] <HexaChop> ioria I think, so, maybe, yes?
[20:13] <ioria> HexaChop,   you should know mate
[20:13] <HexaChop> ioria I think I did encrypt something, but not my home dir.
[20:14] <HexaChop> codfection GTA V still laggs on ultra lol :D
[20:14] <ioria> HexaChop,   do you insert passphrase when you boot ?
[20:14] <HexaChop> ioria, no.
[20:14] <ioria> HexaChop,   no encryption then
[20:14] <HexaChop> ioria, there, problem solved.
[20:14] <ioria> yup
[20:14] <HexaChop> ioria, got a purple window. One of the texts say: UEFI Secure Boot is not compatible with the use of third-party drivers.
[20:15] <ioria> HexaChop,  just  rebooted ? rigth now , i mean ...
[20:16] <HexaChop> codfection, UEFI new systems secures you from using any other OS except windows which is BS in my opinion.
[20:16] <HexaChop> ioria, not yet.
[20:16] <basedmars> you mean secureboot
[20:16] <HexaChop> ioria, it does not allow me to boot
[20:16] <HexaChop> ioria the installed od the NVIDIA
[20:16] <HexaChop> ioria of*
[20:17] <codfection> HexaChop, ubuntu has been a total disaster for me.
[20:17] <HexaChop> ioria, http://pastebin.com/MsRR6prm
[20:17] <codfection> it keeps crashing every time!
[20:17] <HexaChop> codfection, Hey! Nice to see you on my boat! Tickets are free!
[20:18] <pavlos> HexaChop, I think you should disable secureboot
[20:18] <ioria> HexaChop,  let's say 'ok'
[20:18] <ioria> HexaChop,  and yes, secure boot nuked
[20:18] <HexaChop> ioria so OK, lemme disable it.
[20:19] <codfection> HexaChop, unity is only being used in ubuntu and not in any other linux distros. no wonder it keeps crashing. devs are incompetent for GUi
[20:20] <Speiros> codfection what are you using?
[20:20] <ioria> codfection, you can install it on Arc
[20:21] <codfection> ioria, unity is not found on other distros. I checked it.
[20:21] <codfection> ioria, its for ubuntu exclusively
[20:21] <ioria> codfection, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/unity
[20:21] <codfection> ioria, its the forked version perhaps
[20:21] <Speiros> codfection, It seems to be working well on mine, although back in 2010 I did like the gnome desktop too.
[20:21] <ioria> codfection, idk, sy
[20:21] <codfection> Speiros, no crashes at all?
[20:21] <Speiros> codfection Why do you think it's causing you problems?
[20:22] <Speiros> No, not one
[20:22] <codfection> ubuntu lol
[20:22] <Speiros> Not with the unity interface
[20:22] <ioria> codfection, btw, you're right .. is very problematic
[20:22] <Speiros> codfection See, I did an update, but wasn't comfortable with it, and resolved the problems by reverting to the one that worked to all my needs.
[20:23] <pavlos> HexaChop, so, are nvidia drivers installed?
[20:23] <Speiros> codfection It is literally in an "as-is" state, excluding updates.
[20:24] <ioria> you don'thave to touch it or it goes mad
[20:24] <Speiros> codfection Not that I'm dissing your problems, but I am stating that not all instances does the unity, nor Ubuntu have problems like that.
[20:25] <codfection> Speiros, idk. ubuntu is holding all packages to make it "stable" and yet those crashes
[20:25] <HexaChop> ioria I am now 1080p!
[20:25] <Speiros> codfection It could very well be that I don't use the computer for many things, excepting making my music and documentation and the such too.
[20:25] <ioria> HexaChop,  you damned lucky guy
[20:25] <Speiros> codfection Yeah, I appreciate that mate.  Something is obviously needing work on to prevent it crashing on your machine.
[20:25] <HexaChop> ioria, but I am re-installing using sudo dpkg --configure -a because it was interrupted before. Thanks!
[20:25] <ioria> HexaChop,  no problem
[20:25] <HexaChop> ioria, it is fully installed already :D
[20:26] <ioria> HexaChop,  ok
[20:26] <HexaChop> ioria Holy SMOKES it feels amazing for my eyes.
[20:26] <ioria> HexaChop,  grgrgrrgrgrgrgr
[20:26] <HexaChop> ioria exactly.
[20:26] <ioria> HexaChop,  i hate you
[20:26] <HexaChop> ioria, Why? :((((( :D
[20:27] <ioria> HexaChop,  kidding .þ
[20:27] <HexaChop> ioria. I know :D
[20:27] <pavlos> HexaChop, gtx 1070 seems to be a very good card
[20:27] <HexaChop> pavlos, not really.
[20:28] <HexaChop> pavlos  even with 2 of them GTA V laggs.
[20:28] <HexaChop> at about 50FPS, pavlo.
[20:28] <HexaChop> at about 50FPS, pavlos
[20:28] <HexaChop> ioria it shows literally question mark instead of your emoji
[20:29] <codfection> is slack more active than IRC "??
[20:29] <ioria> HexaChop, :þ
[20:29] <ioria> HexaChop, :)
[20:29] <HexaChop> ioria, there :D
[20:29] <HexaChop> ioria, how do I minimize applications? :DDD
[20:30] <ducasse> codfection: if you just want to chat please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:30] <ioria> HexaChop,  meaning ?
[20:30] <HexaChop> ioria, seriously, I can't minimize apps like in windows.
[20:30] <codfection> ducasse, whats wrong?
[20:30] <HexaChop> ioria there is no "-" here.
[20:30] <codfection> ducasse, tell me how to make this ubuntu not crash on me giving the error "Internal error has occured"
[20:31] <codfection> 16.04
[20:31] <ioria> HexaChop, oh.... bad news
[20:31] <HexaChop> ioria, lol, had to drag my mouse up :DDD
[20:31] <ioria> HexaChop,  update and full-upgrade again and reboot
[20:31] <HexaChop> ioria, I am just purely raw-green in linux.
[20:32] <HexaChop> ioria, lol, had to drag my mouse up :DDDDDD
[20:32] <ioria> HexaChop,  update and full-upgrade again and reboot
[20:32] <HexaChop> ioria, and the thingies appeared.
[20:32] <HexaChop> where the name is of the app appears the thingies when you put your mouse on the app name
[20:33] <k1l_> codfection: depends on what the error is. what crashes exactly?
[20:33] <ducasse> codfection: that's the first thing you've said since you came in here that has to do with ubuntu support.
[20:33] <ioria> HexaChop, you can also install  another DE
[20:33] <HexaChop> ioria, the minus appears when you put your mouse on the top bar of the app when it is in full screen
[20:33] <HexaChop> ioria, let's try,
[20:35] <ioria> HexaChop, oh... well,  maybe better fix your actual issue
[20:35] <codfection> k1l_, programs and sometimes desktop. corebird etc.
[20:35] <HexaChop> ioria, don't you get it? I have no more issues.
[20:36] <codfection> ducasse, read up please and then talk
[20:36] <ioria> HexaChop,  oh, great
[20:36] <ioria> HexaChop,  you can install gnome, or kde ot xfce4 or stuff if you want ... also lxde
[20:36] <hwpplayer1_> Description:	Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS now it says that :) it's done
[20:36] <k1l_> codfection: you have been here before, so you know we cant handle "everything is broken" but need to focus on one issue with specific informations and work on that.
[20:36] <HexaChop> ioria I can easily switch between those?
[20:36] <ioria> HexaChop,  they are all DE for linux
[20:36] <ducasse> codfection: i did, all i saw was ranting. provide details on your problem.
[20:36] <ioria> HexaChop,  sure
[20:37] <k1l_> codfection: it looks to me that you dont want to solve issues but just want to rant out of frustration. then #ubuntu is the wrong place.
[20:37] <HexaChop> ioria let's DO IT.
[20:37] <ioria> HexaChop,  how big is your hard drive ?
[20:37] <codfection> ducasse, would you expect me to be happy and pleased on those horrible crashes? what logic are you using?
[20:37] <HexaChop> ioria 500GB for linux-only
[20:37] <codfection> k1l_, corebird crashes
[20:37] <HexaChop> ioria my graphics... letters slightly blur out.
[20:37] <codfection> k1l_, and sometimes unity crashes
[20:37] <ioria> HexaChop,  do you know kde ?
[20:38] <k1l_> codfection: what version in use? what ubuntu? what exact error? can you start corebird from a terminal and show the errors when it crashes in a pastebin?
[20:38] <HexaChop> ioria, no?
[20:38] <codfection> ducasse, you look very incompetent to me. please dont provide support with that attitude of yours. you are giving ubuntu community a bad name
[20:38] <ducasse> codfection: no, i expect you to stick to support issues here. you've still not provided any details.
[20:38] <codfection> k1l_, 16.04 lts
[20:38] <Speiros> codfection see this is why you have problems unresolve man.
[20:39] <ioria> HexaChop,  you can install it with   apt-get install kubntu-desktop ... but for now i suggest you to became familiar with unity
[20:39] <Speiros> If you punch the goalkeeper, the whole team is offside, if you know what I mean.
[20:39] <k1l_> codfection: stop that attitude against supporterst while you contributed nothing but ranting so far. if you are too frustrated for working with the support in here come back when you have calmed down.
[20:39] <ducasse> codfection: i'm not the one who came in here ranting about how useless ubuntu is.
[20:39] <codfection> k1l_, error appears in gui pop up saying" internal error has occured on 16.04"
[20:39] <k1l_> ducasse: let it go, its not helping the issue
[20:40] <HexaChop> ioria your suggestions seems reasonable.
[20:40] <codfection> ducasse, I am just gonna ignore you. and talk to someone who can actually help me out on ubuntu crashes. thanks
[20:40] <k1l_> codfection: i asked you specific questions and tasks
[20:40] <HexaChop> ioria let's do it
[20:40] <ducasse> k1l_: fine by me.
[20:40] <pavlos> HexaChop, to recap, your system is running well.
[20:40] <codfection> k1l_, and I gave you. let me show you image of the crash
[20:40] <k1l_> codfection: and i am loosing motivation to help you since you still dont provide infos and focus on ranting and insulting other users
[20:41] <HexaChop> ducasse, codfection, I can see you are both not friendlies, what is happening?
[20:41] <ducasse> HexaChop: let it go.
[20:41] <codfection> k1l_, not other users. only ducasse who is being oversmart here
[20:41] <k1l_> codfection: you are missing the point of my statement
[20:41] <ioria> HexaChop,  given your hw and that you are a gamer i suggest you this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[20:42] <HexaChop> ioria, I needed that, despite the fact that I have a monitor Motherboard monitor mounted right into the PC. :D
[20:42] <ioria> HexaChop,  ok, explore steam then
[20:42] <HexaChop> ioria, I can't see GPU though.
[20:42] <HexaChop> ioria, and I need that program for CPU too.
[20:43] <codfection> k1l_, uploading the image. taking time. please standby
[20:43] <HexaChop> ioria thanks for being so helpful. You are AWESOME.
[20:44] <ioria> HexaChop,  no problems, stay tuned
[20:44] <puremourning> hello, i have just run apt-get dist-upgrade on newly installed 16.04 LTS system running under Parallels VM and now the system seems to be looping on boot showing the ubuntu logo, then a filesystem message. fully reproducable (done it twice)
[20:44] <HexaChop> ioria OK, staying tuned, but for what reason?
[20:44] <codfection> k1l_, here it is.. https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rz22quUWoI8/WFShjTsqcII/AAAAAAAAFFg/4TMdqhPefmIVIr8Z2NYEUuOHQ58W_XMwQCLcB/s1600/sorry-ubuntu-1604-has-experienced-an-internal-error.png
[20:44] <k1l_> codfection: click on "show details"
[20:44] <ioria> HexaChop,  come here sometimes if you have problems
[20:44] <sp_otaku> Installed the nextcloud snap, it's running but can't figure out how to change SNAP_COMMON, where the data is going to be stored.
[20:44] <HexaChop> ioria, I want you to ask something
[20:45] <ioria> HexaChop,  and stay updated
[20:45] <k1l_> codfection: this warning is just like a red light on the speedometer on the car. "something is broken".
[20:45] <HexaChop> ioria, could you please give me some suggestions for temperature monitoring and something about unity?
[20:45] <dellavita> qualche italiano
[20:45] <pavlos> codfection, the show details should tell you what crashed
[20:45] <puremourning> fwiw the message displayd is /dev/sda1: clean .... files, .... blocks
[20:45] <bekks> !it | dellavita
[20:45] <codfection> k1l_, well that screenshot was when the error occured. will try to do show details next time if the error occurs.. :(
[20:45] <ioria> HexaChop,  i gave you the link... for example you know that yakkety will be supported for only 6 months ?
[20:46] <codfection> k1l_, it randomly occurs thats the issue
[20:46] <HexaChop> ioria, no?
[20:46] <dellavita> join #ubuntu-it
[20:46] <k1l_> codfection: you can start corebird from a terminal and keep that terminal open as long as you want to use corebird. when it crashes you see the errors in that terminal
[20:46] <Halliday> Hey, do we have a tech support hcannel?
[20:46] <ioria> HexaChop,  see.... you have to stay tuned :þ
[20:46] <Halliday> I have a really weird issue
[20:46] <codfection> k1l_, alright. cool
[20:46] <codfection> k1l_, what if the desktop crashes? its not always corebird you know
[20:46] <Speiros> dellavita e /join :)
[20:47] <k1l_> codfection: sometimes the message will appear on every boot (even if there is no new error) until you file a bug report, in some cases
[20:47] <dellavita> perche parlate solo inglese
[20:47] <Halliday> No USB keyboards will work on my laptop, and the built in one hasn't worked for a long time
[20:47] <Halliday> The USB thing is new
[20:47] <Speiros> Si parlo inglese qui
[20:47] <HexaChop> ioria, what about Unity type thingy?
[20:47] <Halliday> Using xinput lists them, but when I use xinput enable for their id, it says they're not found
[20:48] <Halliday> And when I do the same thing on this computer, which is also ubuntu, enable doesn't return that and the keyboards work
[20:48] <ioria> HexaChop,  it's very sophisticated , but it's ok
[20:48] <HexaChop> ioria, and why my graphics are slightly blurry? I NEED MOOOOAAAARRRRR info about unity. Please? :)
[20:48] <Halliday> Does anyone know what might be going on?
[20:49] <ioria> HexaChop,  you can set brightness
[20:49] <adu> How do I select a default sound device in alsa? (NOT pulseaudio)
[20:49] <ducasse> HexaChop: have you tried adjusting the monitor controls?
[20:50] <HexaChop> ioria, will that help my slightly blurry letter issue?
[20:50] <Halliday> Please? I really need to be able to use that laptop
[20:50] <HexaChop> ducasse, it is beatiful on windows, mate.
[20:50] <Halliday> So it would be nice to have some help
[20:50] <ioria> HexaChop,  nope :(
[20:50] <Speiros> dellavita Se si desidera parlare italiano c'è un altro canale. In caso contrario nessuno sa quello che viene detto.
[20:50] <ioria> HexaChop,  ^ ducasse
[20:50] <HexaChop> ioria, how to edit the brightness? :D
[20:50] <adu> Every time ubuntu comes back from suspend, it switches from Sound Device 2 to Sound Device 1, and I want it to always pick Sound Device 2 by default, but I can't figure it out even with all the pulseaudio articles
[20:51] <ioria> HexaChop,  vga, dvi hdmi ? what ?
[20:51] <codfection> k1l_, why is spanish going on in this channel? it doesn't violate the !ontopic?
[20:51] <ioria> HexaChop,  dvi, i guess
[20:51] <ducasse> HexaChop: is it just fonts that are affected?
[20:51] <HexaChop> ducasse, it seems so
[20:51]  * linux_user asks: Has anyone contemplated (or tried) setting up Ubuntu 16.10 using encryption and BTRFS as the root filesystem?
[20:51] <HexaChop> ioria, dvi?
[20:51] <ioria> HexaChop,  in my experience, just replug it
[20:51] <bubbely> is it possible to use DD at a specfic offset
[20:51] <ntldr> http://i.imgur.com/jbkMXRX.png should I care about this issue if I don't use that theme?
[20:51] <codfection> linux_user, yes but I found .10 releases to be not so polish imho
[20:52] <HexaChop> ioria, It is HDMI
[20:52] <ducasse> HexaChop: try turning antialiasing on/off, or adjust font hinting
[20:52] <ioria> HexaChop, can you paste xrandr
[20:52] <bubbely> and... can i mount a COM port
[20:52] <codfection> linux_user, whats your issue thou?
[20:52] <HexaChop> ducasse, how to do that? I am raw-green in linux.
[20:52] <Speiros> dellavita È possibile utilizzare quel link, ma avete bisogno di un "/" fronte :)
[20:52] <Ben64> !it | Speiros
[20:52] <ioria> HexaChop, i use xrandr --output myoutput  --brightness 0.7  (or so)
[20:53] <HexaChop> ioria DVI is so old, you have no idea....
[20:53] <ioria> HexaChop, can you paste xrandr
[20:53] <k1l_> codfection: its not spanish, and it was to guide a user to the italian channels and tell him that this is english only channel. and i dont think you, who just waisted 20 lines with bad attitude and ranting, should tell other users what is right or wrong in here :/
[20:53] <Speiros> Ben64 ...thanks.
[20:53] <HexaChop> ioria, error even here: warning: output myoutput not found; ignoring
[20:53] <HexaChop> xrandr: Need crtc to set gamma on.
[20:53] <bubbely> anyone?
[20:53] <Halliday> Does anyone know how to fix my issue?
[20:53] <ioria> HexaChop, paste it
[20:54] <Halliday> I'd really appreciate some support
[20:54] <ducasse> HexaChop: i have no idea where those settings are under unity, but you can access them with lxappearance for example
[20:54] <Halliday> I've been unable to find any issues like it
[20:54] <HexaChop> ducasse unity is where I am in now? default ubuntu?
[20:54] <codfection> k1l_, my ranting is 100% justified to the support channel. its not irrelevant and baseless
[20:54] <Ben64> Speiros: dunno what you're on about
[20:54] <k1l_> codfection: last warning: this channel is not for ranting.
[20:54] <ioria> ducasse, that is for lxde, i guess
[20:54] <HexaChop> ioria, doesn't work
[20:54] <Speiros> You sent me a link so I could go there if I wanted to speak Italian?
[20:54] <rizonz> will the php version from now in be in /etc/php instead of /etc/phpX ?
[20:55] <Ben64> Speiros: because you kept speaking italian here...
[20:55] <ducasse> ioria: all it does is set gtk settings
[20:55] <Speiros> Ben64 That is because I am helping someone who asked why they had to speak English, but they only speak Italian.
[20:55] <Ben64> Speiros: you mean the person who left 7 minutes ago?
[20:56] <linux_user> codfection: Issue? my ex g/f said I have issues but she never told me what they were!
[20:56] <codfection> k1l_, I appreciate your help for users around here but I suggest you to listen to their problems fully. but yea I got what you mean. not gonna rant anymore. will wait for the crash and report it back to you
[20:56] <ioria> HexaChop, xrandr  | nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[20:56] <Speiros> Ben64...er...they left?
[20:56] <HexaChop> ioria I see no "Super"...
[20:56] <Ben64> Speiros: :)
[20:56] <ioria> HexaChop, xrandr  | nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[20:56] <HexaChop> ioria, sais use  netcat
[20:56] <HexaChop> ioria, says*
[20:57] <HexaChop> ioria, worked
[20:57] <Speiros> Ben64 In that case...yes
[20:57] <HexaChop> ioria, http://termbin.com/1nla
[20:57] <Speiros> lol
[20:57] <adu> does anyone have experience with sound/pulseaudio/alsa?
[20:57] <codfection> adu, I use pulseaudio. why
[20:57] <ioria> HexaChop, you're using HDMI-1   why not di ?
[20:57] <ioria> *dvi
[20:57] <adu> codfection, Im trying to set the default output device, and having trpouble
[20:57] <basedmars> are you on lubuntu adu?
[20:58] <HexaChop> ioria, because DVI is as hell a lot more blurry and HDMI is for my GPU, although I have DVI port, I am not using it. ever.
[20:58] <codfection> adu, what defaults are you using
[20:58] <Speiros> *realises he's talking to himself...so plays with his yoyo...
[20:58] <adu> basedmars, I'm on ubuntu+gnome-shell
[20:58] <HexaChop> !ping
[20:58] <ioria> HexaChop, you have two hdmi ....
[20:58] <HexaChop> ioria, 4 on single GPU.
[20:58] <adu> codfection, I can't figure out how, the pulseaudio tutorials aren't working
[20:59] <adu> codfection, I'm thinking I need to set the default output device with also or something
[20:59] <adu> alsa*
[20:59] <HexaChop> ioria, I can get adapters for even more ports because those ports are made for adapters.
[20:59] <ioria> HexaChop, if you see blurry icons, blurry letter ... you may shutdown and replug the cable
[20:59] <codfection> adu, why its not setting the default audio to pulseaudio?
[20:59] <linux_user> codfection: ext4 works fine for me, no problems...but...I am considering migrating to either ZFS or btrfs, and it seems that since btrfs can be built in and more easily booted from, I am wondering how hard and what the potential pitfalls/downfalls are with doing so...
[20:59] <HexaChop> ioria, ok, brb.
[20:59] <ioria> HexaChop, firmly
[20:59] <codfection> linux_user, whats the big deal between btrfs and ext4
[21:00] <codfection> linux_user, is there an advantage for SSDs?
[21:00] <HexaChop> ioria, done.
[21:00] <adu> codfection, I followed the tutorials to set the default device with pulseaudio, however, after suspend it always selects hdmi (5.1 channel), but my TV is hdmi
[21:00] <adu> hdmi(stereo)
[21:00] <codfection> adu, which tutorials?
[21:00] <HexaChop> ioria, still, blurry, my cable is very powerful so IDK what is going on, on windows it seems fine.
[21:00] <basedmars> There's a dangerous bug on btrfs linux_user . This could have been fixed tho. I wouldn't use btrfs for production case
[21:01] <ioria> HexaChop, no idea ... try another hdmi port
[21:01] <Ben64> HexaChop: how is it blurry
[21:01] <Speiros> codfection There was a good article comparing the two: SSD's and HDD's.  I can try to find it...?
[21:01] <adu> codfection, like this http://askubuntu.com/questions/71863/how-to-change-pulseaudio-sink-with-pacmd-set-default-sink-during-playback
[21:02] <linux_user> basedmars: what is the big bug in btrfs?
[21:02] <ducasse> linux_user: i much prefer zfs, but btrfs is working nicely now in my experience. really nice to have snapshots on /.
[21:02] <codfection> adu, perhaps ask the more experienced users here
[21:02] <linux_user> I will absolutely not use btrfs if it has a big can corrupt my files
[21:02] <linux_user> then its junk and I wont use it at all
[21:02] <basedmars> linux_user, https://twitter.com/btrfs/status/762589934662193152?lang=en
[21:02] <adu> I hate having to switch from 5.1 to stereo every time i come back from the bathroom :(
[21:02] <codfection> Speiros, what to compare lol. SSD is the best. thats it.
[21:02] <linux_user> ducasse, let me see this major bug first that basedmars is talking about
[21:03] <codfection> adu, sad. its too much of work, isnt it
[21:03] <linux_user> ducasse: zfs is not bootable on Linux I thought
[21:03] <HexaChop> Ben64, letters, slightly blurry.
[21:03] <ducasse> linux_user: that's for raid 5/6 which i wouldn't use
[21:03] <HexaChop> ioria, maybe missing some other drivers?
[21:03] <HexaChop> ioria, on windows, I had to install A LOT more drivers.
[21:03] <ducasse> linux_user: it is bootable, but major hassle and unsupported
[21:03] <k1l_> ducasse: "not bootable"?
[21:03] <codfection> linux_user, I think it has issues with grub
[21:03] <Speiros> codfection Ah, I misread your question.
[21:03] <ioria> HexaChop, mmm, don't think so, but maybe i'am wrong
[21:03] <k1l_> linux_user:  "not bootable"?
[21:04] <k1l_> ducasse: sorry, typo
[21:04] <ducasse> k1l_: np
[21:04] <HexaChop> ioria I have no "Super" button.
[21:04] <linux_user> all: first, an unsupported boot of zfs is of disinterest to me
[21:04] <ioria> HexaChop, the network icon in the top bar is blurry ?
[21:04] <HexaChop> ioria, no
[21:04] <linux_user> all: second, I am not planning to use raid 5/6 so that btrfs bug is of no issue to me
[21:04] <k1l_> linux_user: you seem to mix things here.
[21:04] <ioria> HexaChop, so what is blurry ?
[21:05] <linux_user> huh?
[21:05] <codfection> Speiros, it happens dont worry
[21:05] <HexaChop> ioria, text is blurry for some reason
[21:05] <ducasse> linux_user: you _can_ boot from zfs if you really want to, but on ubuntu it is only supported for data
[21:05] <ioria> HexaChop, alslo in firefox ?
[21:05] <k1l_> linux_user: the ubuntu installer doesnt have support to create zfs / partitions. but you can make those manually and have zfs as / partition.
[21:05] <ioria> HexaChop, also in firefox ?
[21:05] <HexaChop> ioria I am in firefox :D
[21:05] <linux_user> ah okay
[21:05] <Speiros> Windows button HexaChop ?
[21:05] <linux_user> I am fine with btrfs
[21:05] <linux_user> if it is supported
[21:05] <ioria> HexaChop, in gedit ?
[21:05] <linux_user> I do not need raid 5/6
[21:05] <EDinNY> 16.04. just got back from vacation.  Hooked my LG monitor back up to my laptop, and it thinks it is a Goldstar, instead, and does not have the correct resolution.
[21:06] <linux_user> let me ask this then:
[21:06] <HexaChop> ioria doesn't seem to be blurry.
[21:06] <ioria> HexaChop, in terminal ?
[21:06] <linux_user> is installing too and booting from btrfs supported in the 16.10 installer of Ubuntu?
[21:06] <ducasse> linux_user: straight btrfs on single disk or raid 0/1 works fine imo
[21:06] <HexaChop> EDinNY made me laugh :D
[21:06] <ducasse> linux_user: yes
[21:06] <linux_user> good
[21:06] <EDinNY> HexaChop: any suggestions?
[21:06] <HexaChop> ioria terminal is very not blurry. sharp.
[21:06] <linux_user> raid 0/1 is all I plan on at the moment
[21:06] <linux_user> whence this bug is fixed it should be just a kernel upgrade I'd think anyway
[21:06] <ioria> HexaChop,  so only firefox ?
[21:07] <linux_user> not reformatting the btrfs partitions
[21:07] <HexaChop> EDinNY, I have no idea. Why would it switch for no reason? Linux is weird.
[21:07] <codfection> EDinNY, set the resolution using xrandr and save the layout. done. !next
[21:07] <HexaChop> ioria, seems like so, yea.
[21:07] <ioria> HexaChop,  apt-cache policy firefox
[21:07] <HexaChop> !next
[21:07] <HexaChop> !ping
[21:07] <codfection> !debian
[21:08] <codfection> !arch
[21:08] <HexaChop> ioria, http://termbin.com/rndi
[21:08] <ioria> HexaChop,  it's ok
[21:09] <HexaChop> ioria, what do u mean?
[21:09] <ioria> HexaChop,  it's updated
[21:09] <linux_user> ducasse: so if I wish to use btrfs, too boot from it and install too it, and use raid 0/1, then it seems like it'd be okay to do that in general?
[21:09] <HexaChop> ioria, oh, ok.
[21:09] <HexaChop> ioria, I have no audio realtek driver
[21:10] <ioria> HexaChop,  i have to go, good luck
[21:10] <ioria> sy
[21:10] <Ben64> linux_user: just keep backups
[21:10] <generic> Hello world
[21:10] <Speiros> Hi generic:)
[21:10] <HexaChop> ioria bye
[21:10] <ducasse> linux_user: in *my* opinion, yes. i know several people who use btrfs under the circumstances i mentioned earlier, none of them has had problems.
[21:10] <ducasse> linux_user: only raid 5/6 is problematic, and has always been so.
[21:11] <HexaChop> speiros, how to get raltek drivers on linux?
[21:12] <HexaChop> speiros, realtek*
[21:12] <Speiros> HexaChop I dont recall.  Let me see if there's a page for it.
[21:12] <ducasse> linux_user: you can always ask in #btrfs, but they're sort of biased ;)
[21:12] <HexaChop> speiros, OK, thanks.
[21:13] <nicomachus> I'm trying to install a package called "librespot" from github via rust and cargo, and am getting this error when compiling "syntex_syntax": https://paste.ubuntu.com/23762603/
[21:13] <linux_user> true true
[21:13] <hwpplayer1_> how can i mount an ext4 external HDD
[21:13] <nicomachus> any ideas what could be causing the error? That's the full --verbose output.
[21:13] <linux_user> though part of my question was also install support for Ubuntu
[21:13] <linux_user> they would send me here ostensibly had I asked that there
[21:14] <ducasse> linux_user: i recommend zfs for data storage and other things that is not /, though. it's just nicer and more mature.
[21:14] <Speiros> HexaChop Here's an article from 2014 (my version) https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2205497
[21:14] <linux_user> ducasse: I agree entirely
[21:14] <linux_user> I am about to build a FreeNAS server too
[21:14] <Speiros> HexaChop, Actually, it was a couple of months prior.
[21:14] <linux_user> that will be pure ZFS
[21:15] <Speiros> hwpplayer1_ What is happening?  Have you plugged it in already?
[21:15] <HexaChop> Speiros, hmm..
[21:15] <Speiros> HexaChop What is wrong with it?
[21:16] <hwpplayer1_> Speiros : i just formatted the old ext4 system disk , and create an external disk ext4 formatted. But i have permisson issue
[21:16] <ducasse> linux_user: on my desktop, / is btrfs, /home is zfs and the rest is zfs over nfs. works really well.
[21:16] <Speiros> hwpplayer1_, Ah, I see.  I can also only open my HDD on admin, and then share it to this account.
[21:16] <Speiros> hwpplayer1_, Is that the same issue?
[21:17] <basedmars> Since you guys are using zfs, would you recommend zfs for cold hdd storage. I mean unplugged linux_user ducasse . I've been wanting to use zfs, but no use-cases yet.
[21:17] <codfection> !gentoo
[21:17] <hwpplayer1_> Sperios : something like that
[21:17] <Speiros> hwpplayer1_, Ok, so the problem is accessing the HDD from the user account?
[21:18] <hwpplayer1_> Sperios : yep
[21:18] <Ben64> hwpplayer1_: so you can mount it
[21:18] <hwpplayer1_> Ben64 : i was searching for that
[21:19] <ducasse> basedmars: i don't see why not.
[21:19] <Ben64> hwpplayer1_: explain exactly what is going on
[21:19] <Speiros> hwpplayer1_, Are you also the admin on your computer?
[21:20] <hwpplayer1_> Speiros : Yes this is my own computer
[21:20] <Speiros> Ok:)
[21:20] <hwpplayer1_> Speiros : i'm searching how to mount a disk on Ubuntu
[21:21] <Speiros> hwpplayer1_, So you're not running Ubuntu currently, but wanting to from the ext4?
[21:21] <vegii> hwpplayer1_: open disk utility, select partition, press "mount" (play icon)
[21:21] <h4xX4rN> hello
[21:22] <hwpplayer1_> Speiros : I run Ubuntu Desktop , i have an external HDD
[21:22] <h4xX4rN> -x
[21:22] <linux_user> Did some more reading on that page ducasse, yeah if you do not use raid 5/6 it seems fine to use btrfs
[21:23] <linux_user> granted, ZFS with raidz is better
[21:23] <linux_user> but as an upgrade to ext4 for booting Ubuntu I like btrfs from what I saw so far
[21:23] <hwpplayer1_> vegii : Ext4 (version 1.0) — Mounted at /media/hwpplayer1/989ffdae-0284-4519-8880-8b1c7445ecc6 it says that on Gnome Disks
[21:23] <Speiros> hwpplayer1_, Ok, so what disk do you want to mount?
[21:23] <linux_user> FreeNAS is a very good way to run ZFS and have a lot of options for it!
[21:24] <Speiros> hwpplayer1_, Did  you mean hdd and not disk?
[21:24] <hwpplayer1_> Speiros : it's an External HDD , i can't write something on it
[21:24] <Speiros> hwpplayer1_, Yep, okay.  That's what I thought you meant, but when you mentioned disk I was confused.
[21:24] <Speiros> :)
[21:24] <vegii> hwpplayer1_:  also, you shouldn't need root to mount an external hdd on ubuntu desktop afaik
[21:25] <Altom> Hello ! The canon printer driver's daemon delays the shutdown of my machine by 5 minutes (time betwen the sigterm and the sigkill). I couldn't find anywhere how to set the timeout to sigkill to 5 seconds or something
[21:25] <Speiros> vegii, that's true, but it is an issue.  I have the same on my computer.
[21:25] <hwpplayer1_> vegii : so how can i use that external HDD
[21:25] <ducasse> linux_user: yep. btrfs is great for /, gives you some nice features. check out apt-btrfs-snapshot.
[21:26] <Ben64> hwpplayer1_: so it is mounted, so you don't need to know how to mount it
[21:26] <vegii> hwpplayer1_: if I had that problem, I'd try unmounting it and mounting again in gnome-disks
[21:26] <Ben64> hwpplayer1_: sounds like you just need to give permission to your user to write to it
[21:26] <linux_user> apt-btrfs-snapshot is a package?
[21:26] <Ben64> hwpplayer1_: is anything on it?
[21:27] <Speiros> Ben64 That is it, yes.
[21:27] <HexaChop> Spieros, I am in Windows now.
[21:27] <HexaChop> Speiros*
[21:27] <Speiros> HexaChop, Okay.  Are you happier with it?
[21:27] <hwpplayer1_> Ben64 : yep , i need to add my hwpplayer1 user to that group
[21:27] <linux_user> I see that package now
[21:27] <HexaChop> Speiros, how to set up GRUB so I could select between windows and Linux?
[21:27] <linux_user> interesting!
[21:27] <hwpplayer1_> Ben64 : But which group is that ?
[21:28] <Ben64> hwpplayer1_: sudo chown hwpplayer1:hwpplayer1 /media/hwpplayer1/989ffdae-0284-4519-8880-8b1c7445ecc6
[21:28] <vegii> hwpplayer1_:  there might be files on that disk that have some unix permissions for other users. chown or sudo nautilus should work
[21:29] <hwpplayer1_> Ben64 : Thanks , it was that
[21:29] <hwpplayer1_> Thanks friends , now i need to sleep
[21:29] <hwpplayer1_> Have a good day
[21:29] <Speiros> goodnight:)
[21:30] <Altom> I tried almost everything, even tried to pkill the daemon before shutdown, it doesn't work
[21:30] <Altom> It's the CAPT printerdriver v2.70, it's the latest
[21:30] <HexaChop> Speiros, are you there?
[21:31] <Speiros> HexaChop, I'll have a look on the net, and see what's there, as I don't now grub either:)  Sorry man, but my knowledge base is very, very small, and I believe it's getting more restricted as time goes on.
[21:31] <HexaChop> Speiros, OK.
[21:31] <Altom> I checked all the config files to see if there is something related to timeout between sigterm and sigkill but couldn't find
[21:31] <glitchd> HexaChop, is grub installed?
[21:31] <HexaChop> Anybody knows how GRUB works?
[21:31] <HexaChop> glitchd, yes, it came with linux
[21:32] <glitchd> HexaChop, and you are able to boot into linux with it, correct?
[21:32] <HexaChop> glitchd, yes.
[21:32] <glitchd> HexaChop, are you positive that you did not delete the windows paritition?
[21:32] <linux_user> ducasse: I am going to do a 16.10 install under VMware and play with btrfs a bit on root
[21:33] <HexaChop> I am back, switched IRC channels.
[21:33] <HexaChop> IRC clients rather
[21:33] <glitchd> HexaChop, are you positive that you did not delete the windows paritition?
[21:33] <HexaChop> glithcd i am in windows now lol
[21:33] <ducasse> linux_user: yes, get used to it before using it 'live'
[21:33] <HexaChop> glitchd, I am in windows now, lol.
[21:33] <glitchd> HexaChop, well i am not sure how to fix grub from windows..
[21:34] <HexaChop> glitchd, my linux is on another distant harddrive.
[21:34] <ducasse> linux_user: learn how to make snapshots and rollback etc
[21:34] <glitchd> HexaChop, when you next boot into linux run "sudo update-grub" and see if it finds windows
[21:34] <HexaChop> glitchd, let me boot into it right now.
[21:34] <glitchd> HexaChop, alrighty then
[21:35] <digital_ghost> is there ubuntu productivity application, which lets you set goals to achive within a particular time and alarm you.basically like a timetable
[21:36] <vegii> some time ago I thought I needed one large hdd/ssd for all OSes to be displayed in grub but thankfully, reality is much nicer
[21:36] <bekks> digital_ghost: are you looking for a project management tool?
[21:36] <dbazim> anybody know if NEC Corporation uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 30 [XHCI]) support is broken in 4.4.0-58-generic ? I have problem with it.
[21:36] <linux_user> ducasse: exactly, that is what the vmware instance would be fore...to play with it safely before I migrate to it entirely
[21:38] <Speiros> HexaChop As a side point, I did find an article similar, but from not being able to get into linux.  It's here: - https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2348841
[21:38] <digital_ghost> bekks:not really , just simple to-do list like app.kind of like the one you find on android
[21:39] <linux_user> brb
[21:39] <bekks> digital_ghost: I am not using Android, so I dont know anything about that "app".
[21:40] <lasersaber> what's a good video desktop recorder?
[21:41] <digital_ghost> bekks:I wasn't mentioning any particular app.Just saying there are lot of to-do apps for android and iphone
[21:41] <HexaChop> Speiros, I cant boot into linux it is just purple screen.
[21:42] <Tywars> .
[21:42] <HexaChop> Speiros, after inserting all HDDs and CDROM.
[21:42] <Speiros> HexaChop, Sorry, you were away and I didn't realise.  Heres a link.
[21:42] <Speiros> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2348841
[21:43] <Speiros> HexaChop, This is probably your same problem?
[21:43] <HexaChop> When installing windows ssd was disconnected.
[21:44] <HexaChop> Speiros,
[21:44] <Speiros> HexaChop, Yep?
[21:44] <HexaChop> Above text, Speiros.
[21:45] <Speiros> Yes, the link I sent you was answered about 40 minutes ago, by what appears to be the same problem.
[21:45] <Speiros> HexaChop, Is it different?
[21:47] <HexaChop> Speiros, it shows just blank purple screen.
[21:47] <Speiros> HexaChop, Yeah, I see...I wonder what disappeared from the file to make it not boot up.
[21:48] <HexaChop> Speiros,  I reconnected all HDDS, SSDS and CDROM.
[21:48] <plshelp> trying to learn how to use dd to backup my ~500gb hd. what block size should i use?
[21:48] <lasersaber> HexaChop, im guess you were able to boot from live usb.
[21:49] <Speiros> HexaChop Ok, so backpedalling a bit...these weren't connected before when your Ubuntu was working?
[21:49] <HexaChop> lasersaber with just one HDD that has linux in it, then i can boot.
[21:49] <HexaChop> Speiros, basically.
[21:50] <glitchd> HexaChop, sounds like you still need to update-grub to fix the grub config then
[21:50] <Speiros> HexaChop, Okay.  Can you go back to how it was, and see if it works firstly, and then we can load one at a time, and see which one is causing the issue...probably the CD drive.
[21:51] <neals> hey, i have ubuntu MATE and recently notifications are not running; when i try to listen to some audio, i assume the sound settings are muted since I can't hear anything, in genral: apps that work as tray icons no longer opens up or rather not showing up, and i was wandering how i can fix this issue.
[21:51] <glitchd> Speiros, omg if its booting from cd and not the hd, i will seriously  muck my pants..lol
[21:52] <Speiros> glitchd It isn't about the booting, but about what hardware was added since the install that worked...at least that is how I'm seeing it.  Then we can work out what drivers are needed, if that is the problem.
[21:53] <blueking> is it much work to add vlan tagging on nic's ?
[21:53] <bekks> No.
[21:54] <Speiros> glitchd But yeah, how frustrating if it ended totally back at square one, although I doubt it very much:)
[21:56] <marchelly> Hi, I'm doing do-release-upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 like aptitude update; aptitude upgrade and do-release-upgrade. Everything went fine and after reboot I'm not able to ssh the server but it's pingable and only FTP port is active, I can connect with FTP user. I can use rescue mode from hosting and after chroot to my working env I'm doing lsb_release -a and it shows me 14.04. So now I know that server boots and even vsftpd starts, but nothing else. How s
[21:56] <marchelly> hould I debug this? What actions to do? If I set sshd_config port to 2222 and make service ssh restart, everyhing works fine.
[21:56] <lasersaber> HexaChop, so now u can boot with live ubuntu but only see a purple screen?
[21:58] <k1l_> marchelly: see if the ssh server is running?
[21:58] <lasersaber> marchelly, maybe #ubuntu-server
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> marchelly  so setting it to 2222 solves it?
[21:58] <marchelly> k1l_, just in chroot
[21:58] <HexaChop> Speiros, taken out the CDROM, everything works fine except there is no Loading screen.
[21:58] <HexaChop> Speiros, I am chating to you via linux now.
[21:58] <Speiros> HexaChop, What do you mean loading screen?
[21:59] <marchelly> MonkeyDust, no, just in chroot. Just fortesting that sshd isworking fine running it by hand, and yes,it'sworking.
[21:59] <HexaChop> Speiros, there are no logo Ubuntu and no dots.
[21:59] <k1l_> marchelly: try to restart ssh and see if there is an error? maybe the old ssh conf had  changes that dont work with the new ssh version?
[21:59] <marchelly> k1l_, no, when running ssh in chroot it works fine and I'm able to connect remotely
[21:59] <lasersaber> HexaChop, boot using the advanced option recovery then resume booting
[22:00] <k1l_> marchelly: so its just not starting at startup?
[22:00] <HexaChop> lasersaber, reason for that?
[22:00] <HexaChop> lasersaber, how to update GRUB
[22:00] <Ilmen> Hello; I've tried installing the DMD compiler with a .deb file from http://dlang.org/download.html, but when I try to install it with dpkg, it throws at me an error "attempt to replace /usr/bin/dman". It seems there is a file name conflict with an already existing file on my disk. What should I in this case? (I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS)
[22:01] <marchelly> k1l_, hw can I debug rc booting services, as it looks likethat it only boots vsftpd and nothing else (there are apache, nginx, and other services set to be started on boot)
[22:01] <lasersaber> HexaChop, i was having similar issue and that's how i was able to boot into ubuntu
[22:01] <marchelly> k1l_, yes, it's not starting on server start
[22:01] <k1l_> marchelly: its using upstart on 14.04
[22:01] <HexaChop> lasersaber I am in ubuntu right now
[22:01] <Ilmen> Someone suggested me to use dpkg-divert
[22:01] <HexaChop> lasersaber I don't want to do that every time though
[22:02] <HexaChop> Speiros, how to update GRUB?
[22:02] <marchelly> k1l_, so how should I fix this? upstart?
[22:02] <digital_ghost> i am getting package not found error , all the time. need assistance to fix it
[22:02] <k1l_> marchelly: ubuntu did use "upstart" as the init untill ubuntu 15.04.
[22:02] <johnnybravo> Hello everybody
[22:03] <digital_ghost> can't update repo
[22:03] <lasersaber> HexaChop, is ubuntu installed or u on liveusb?
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> digital_ghost  what's the outcome of    cat /etc/issue
[22:03] <marchelly> k1l_, Iwas using rcconf before to set services that should run on boot
[22:03] <HexaChop> lasersaber, no on HDD, I have drivers installed already
[22:03] <marchelly> so now I should use another techniq?
[22:03] <Speiros> Can someone correct me if I'm wrong...
[22:04] <k1l_> marchelly: so maybe that is the reason why that doesnt work now on 14.04
[22:04] <digital_ghost> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS \n \l
[22:04] <k1l_> !upstart | marchelly
[22:04] <Speiros> HexaChop, I believe it's man update grub
[22:04] <johnnybravo> I need assitance in regards to using a vpn. I dont want to set up a server, I simply want to connect trough a VPN. Any help is appreciated.
[22:04] <HexaChop> speiros, maybe sudo update-grub?
[22:04] <lasersaber> HexaChop, 16.04?
[22:04] <HexaChop> lasersaber, 16.10.
[22:04] <k1l_> marchelly: there should be the initjobs .conf in /etc/init
[22:05] <Speiros> HexaChop, sounds good.  man should pull up a manual for it.
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> digital_ghost  what's the outcome of   sudo apt update ... use this page to show it to the channel ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[22:05] <marchelly> k1l_, okay, let me chroot one more time and check that.
[22:06] <HexaChop> Everyone, why when booting ubuntu, there is no loading screen?
[22:06] <lasersaber> HexaChop, use Grub Customizer
[22:07] <k1l_> HexaChop: there is as standard. you get the purple ubuntu screen and then the login screen
[22:07] <adrian_1908> I don't know whether to ask here in in #python, but can anyone tell me why python3-pip has such big dependencies, including python *-dev packages?
[22:07] <lasersaber> HexaChop, http://tipsonubuntu.com/2016/10/15/install-grub-customizer-ubuntu-16-10/
[22:07] <HexaChop> k1l_ I get nothing just purple screen
[22:07] <digital_ghost> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23767060/
[22:07] <adrian_1908> *here or in
[22:07] <k1l_> HexaChop: except you did remove "quiet splash" for debugging reasons
[22:07] <johnnybravo> Hello everybody, how to connect through a VPN on ubuntu?
[22:07] <k1l_> HexaChop: that is the loading screen.
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> !vpn | johnnybravo start here
[22:07] <reisio> johnnybravo: ddclient
[22:08] <k1l_> HexaChop: this: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/ubuntu-boot-flash-screen.jpg
[22:08] <johnnybravo> thank you guys
[22:08] <lasersaber> HexaChop, also  sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[22:09] <k1l_> johnnybravo: the network-manager got vpn support maybe you need to install the related vpn packages for specific protocols
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> digital_ghost  that's a lot of ppas
[22:09] <basedmars> If the loading screen don't show up, does it affect the system as a whole. I mean is it become unusable tho HexaChop
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> digital_ghost  ppas are not supported here, try disabling them, first
[22:10] <HexaChop> lasersaber, how to re-enable loading screen?
[22:10] <k1l_> digital_ghost: the qucs PPA doesnt have any support for 16.04. so remove that
[22:10] <johnnybravo> okay i see, dont i need any third party client? like cyberghost etc?
[22:10] <marchelly> k1l_, there is an initjon in /etc/init/ssh.conf
[22:10] <marchelly> *initjob
[22:10] <k1l_> johnnybravo: no, not really.
[22:10] <lasersaber> sudo startx
[22:10] <lasersaber> ?
[22:10] <Ben64> no
[22:11] <k1l_> lasersaber: no, dont do that
[22:11] <lasersaber> never mind
[22:11] <HexaChop> k1l_ how to re-enable loading screen?
[22:12] <k1l_> HexaChop: ? what screen exactly?
[22:12] <HexaChop> k1l_ The boot loading screen.
[22:12] <k1l_> HexaChop: do you mean the "login screen"? or the purple screen while the system is loading (the one i posted)
[22:12] <HexaChop> k1l_ the one you posted
[22:12] <basedmars> I think he meant the one you posted
[22:13] <lasersaber> HexaChop, the boot loader screen where you choose OS you want to boot?
[22:13] <k1l_> HexaChop: do you see a black screen with the kernel messages running on boot?
[22:13] <HexaChop> lasersaber, no, the one that shows laoding animations
[22:13] <Speiros> I think he's seeing a blank purple screen
[22:13] <HexaChop> k1l_ just purple screen, absolutely nothing else.
[22:14] <HexaChop> lasersaber, loading*
[22:14] <k1l_> marchelly: what runlevels are named inside the file to start on?
[22:15] <marchelly> start on runlevel [2345]
[22:15] <k1l_> marchelly: that is correct.
[22:15] <basedmars> I don't have the loading screen too. It boot so fast, it just go right to the user login. that's on hdd btw
[22:15] <basedmars> It's usable, so it's alright
[22:15] <k1l_> marchelly: maybe you need to look into syslog or upstart log if there is something happening
[22:15] <marchelly> k1l_, let me check this, moment
[22:15] <lasersaber> HexaChop, do you get a user login screen?
[22:16] <HexaChop> basedmars, for me it takes about a minute, I don't know if it is frozen or loading...
[22:16] <HexaChop> lasersaber, no.
[22:16] <k1l_> HexaChop: did you remove "quiet splash" from the kernel line on boot?
[22:16] <SierraKomodo> Anyone able to help me figure out why this file refuses to run, saying it doesn't exist despite ls -al saying it does exist with execute perms? https://zerobin.net/?759a431f1eda45a2#EgavSS3O8HuMCeQjqhfze4GgEszLBA1zY5+MgCgmWUw=
[22:16] <HexaChop> k1l_, there is nouveau.modeset=0 instead.
[22:16] <SierraKomodo> This is on Ubuntu Desktop 16.04, 64-bit
[22:17] <k1l_> HexaChop: ok, try to add "quiet splash" on the grub one time to test if that is working
[22:17] <HexaChop> k1l_ but it resets back to quiet splash after rebooting anyways.
[22:17] <k1l_> !nomodeset | HexaChop this explains how to add/rmeove stuff there for one time boot. just add "quiet splash"
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> SierraKomodo  cd to the folder and then use   ./Franz
[22:18] <HexaChop> k1l_ let me reboot and check...
[22:19] <tekeli-li> Is it by design that the system beep (or bell or whatever) is disabled in Ubuntu? If so, why?
[22:19] <tekeli-li> Context for my question: https://askubuntu.com/a/587311
[22:20] <k1l_> tekeli-li: yes its the standard setting. on most distros, i guess
[22:20] <tekeli-li> It's not just me than. That's nice to know, but the *why* is also of interest to me.
[22:21] <SierraKomodo> MonkeyDust: That didn't work either. As a note, this is me trying to debug why it won't run when I double-click the icon in file manager. https://zerobin.net/?583d865949d656c8#W3ElY2NV0Awio1LU+JcdbbZO81Vpt3ULPoonQKsKfFg=
[22:21] <marchelly> k1l_, nothing interesting there on I donot know what I'm looking for
[22:22] <HexaChop> k1l_, told you it would reset, but this time I am getting the dots and a purple strip underneath...
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> SierraKomodo  pastebin    cat Franz ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[22:23] <lasersaber> HexaChop, do you a screen like this? https://i.stack.imgur.com/8RYuZ.png
[22:23] <basedmars> I think it would be helpful if you explain it step by step for every instruction k1l_ . He mention he's raw green in linux before
[22:23] <backbox> I
[22:23] <backbox> HI
[22:23] <k1l_> HexaChop: i linked you a howto to one time test it. i know that method is resetting since that is the idea of "one time testing"
[22:23] <HexaChop> lasersaber, yes, but without the blue dots.
[22:23] <backbox> HI
[22:23] <backbox> NEGA
[22:23] <SierraKomodo> MonkeyDust: Is it normal to be flooding terminal with random characters when I do that
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> SierraKomodo  use this page http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[22:24] <HexaChop> lasersaber, only when hitting shift though.
[22:24] <k1l_> marchelly: hmm, i am not a init specialists.
[22:25] <HexaChop> k1l_, why am I getting loading dots and black strip underneath, everything else is black background.
[22:25] <HexaChop> k1l_, why am I getting loading dots and black strip underneath, everything else is black background.
[22:25] <basedmars> Could you post a picture of it HexaChop for reference
[22:25] <marchelly> k1l_, Okay, I'm adding hook to vsftpd.conf as the last line to run sshd -D
[22:25] <lasersaber> HexaChop, try selecting the recovery mode option
[22:26] <HexaChop> basedmars, not really, I would need to reboot again
[22:26] <profetix> Hey anyone here wanna help me with a mini-series I'm starting, "The Linux NOOB and a GURU"?
[22:26] <marchelly> k1l, rebooted the server and now even ftp is not working (server pingable!)
[22:26] <HexaChop> lasersaber and reason for that is?
[22:26] <marchelly> that's nice ))
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> profetix  that's for #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:26] <profetix> Yeah, no one ever responds there
[22:26] <k1l> HexaChop: video driver/card issues
[22:26] <Speiros> profetix If you have one called "The Linux NOOB who doesn't learn and a GURU", I might be able to play the noob:?
[22:27] <HexaChop> lasersaber, basedmars and others, you are very supportive, I like it.
[22:27] <HexaChop> k1l, driver is installed, I have 2x ASUS STRIX 1070 GPUs.
[22:27] <Speiros> lol
[22:27] <k1l> HexaChop: i still dont know what kernel modes you have and tested now.
[22:27] <profetix> Hah! I was looking to be the noob but happy to share that role haha
[22:27] <HexaChop> k1l, shouldn't you be k1l_?
[22:27] <lasersaber> HexaChop, so u can boot into ubunt
[22:27] <profetix> It kinda is related to support ;0)
[22:28] <k1l> tekeli-li: the majority thinks that pc speaker is annoying. so it was turned off by default
[22:28] <HexaChop> lasersaber I am in ubuntu now
[22:28] <SierraKomodo> MonkeyDust: It gave 72.1 MB of output to a textfile when I ran cat > ~/Documents/cat.txt, said file is refusing to open in gedit
[22:28] <lasersaber> HexaChop, can open a terminal?
[22:28] <Speiros> profetix It sounds good mate. Best wishes with it, but I couldn't really help:)
[22:28] <HexaChop> lasersaber, yes.
[22:28] <lasersaber> can you*
[22:28] <lasersaber> ok
[22:28] <MonkeyDust> SierraKomodo  it's not a bash script?
[22:29] <MonkeyDust> SierraKomodo  that was retorical
[22:29] <lasersaber> HexaChop, is the system hooked to the internet?
[22:29] <SierraKomodo> It's supposed to be a executable that I can't get to run at all
[22:29] <SierraKomodo> Came directly from here: http://meetfranz.com/
[22:29] <lasersaber> connected*
[22:29] <HexaChop> lasersaber, I am talking to you through ubuntu.
[22:30] <basedmars> I used franz too SierraKomodo . Open it is as easy as double clicking
[22:30] <lasersaber> have you tried in terminal? sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[22:30] <SierraKomodo> basedmars: Nothing happens when I double click.
[22:30] <basedmars> Does it have executable permission SierraKomodo ?
[22:31] <HexaChop> lasersaber, yes, a billion times already
[22:31] <SierraKomodo> basedmars: Yes.
[22:31] <basedmars> What about the filesize. 67mb SierraKomodo ?
[22:31] <lasersaber> HexaChop, ok, have you rebooted since the update and upgrade?
[22:32] <SierraKomodo> basedmars: 72.1 MB
[22:32] <HexaChop> lasersaber I upsated and upgraded a while back.
[22:32] <lasersaber> HexaChop, ok
[22:32] <SierraKomodo> The archive is version 4.04
[22:32] <HexaChop> lasersaber, updated*
[22:32] <SierraKomodo> 4.0.4*
[22:33] <lasersaber> HexaChop, hmmm i dont know then :-/
[22:33] <HexaChop> k1l_, u there?
[22:33] <HexaChop> k1l, u there?
[22:33] <basedmars> Yes mine is 4.0.4 too SierraKomodo . Franz is 1.3.1 version
[22:35] <lasersaber> HexaChop, maybe u can share your screen so we can have a better look
[22:35] <k1l> HexaChop: yes
[22:35] <basedmars> Can you paste sha256 of the packages SierraKomodo . 'sha256sum Franz-linux-x64-4.0.4.tgz'
[22:35] <basedmars> Mine is 65e63c9aa71c46f391ce5b62bca0b77dcae59d0cef18691e39e4c5ec24a85e6b
[22:35] <HexaChop> lasersaber, share?
[22:36] <lasersaber> HexaChop, so we can see what you see
[22:36] <tekeli-li> k1l, Thank you for answering. Have a good day.
[22:36] <HexaChop> lasersaber tw type stuff?
[22:37] <lasersaber> so we can see what you're looking at
[22:37] <SierraKomodo> basedmars: Need to redownload the archive; I deleted it after extracting
[22:38] <basedmars> Well we could compare sha256 of the franz executalble
[22:38] <HexaChop> lasersaber, share screen while booting is not possible I believe.
[22:38] <lasersaber> HexaChop, do u have a smartphone?
[22:38] <basedmars> SierraKomodo, b699e162ee1bcb6a1b24a05d31a5f154b61681ae513e7fed59cc2a07cfa4b78f  Franz
[22:38] <HexaChop> lasersaber, you won't believe this but no, it broke, sadly.
[22:39] <HexaChop> lasersaber I do have a tablet without a camera.
[22:39] <lasersaber> lol
[22:39] <lasersaber> ok
[22:39] <SierraKomodo> basedmars: Well, that's definitely not the same for the Franz file itself
[22:39] <basedmars> Hmm. Is there a version file in the franz directory SierraKomodo ? If so what is the version. Mine is 1.3.1
[22:40] <lasersaber> HexaChop, no other device with a camera around?
[22:40] <HexaChop> lasersaber not really
[22:40] <SierraKomodo> basedmars: 1.3.1. The archive finished redownloading, I'll re-extract it
[22:41] <HexaChop> lasersaber, I could however take a photo of the booting screen, I don't like calling random ppl for security reasons, to be honest.
[22:41] <SierraKomodo> basedmars: Out of curiousity, do you have the 32-bit or 64-bit version
[22:41] <lasersaber> HexaChop, i was going to say to use www.appear.in :-/
[22:42] <basedmars> forgot about them. I have 64 bit version one SierraKomodo
[22:42] <HexaChop> lasersaber, + it's midnight
[22:42] <royal_screwup21> Hey guys!
[22:42] <SierraKomodo> basedmars: Well, 64-bit's what I told it to download, but the archive itself that the website gave me is 'Franz-linux-ia32-4.0.4'
[22:42] <royal_screwup21> I'm looking for something like quicktime recording on linux. Any ideas?
[22:43] <SierraKomodo> Which might be my issue
[22:43] <HexaChop> lasersaber, I can describe how my boot screen looks like...
[22:43] <lasersaber> royal_screwup21, http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux_software_equivalent_to_Windows_software
[22:43] <basedmars> Yes, i suspect that could be it. Let me try grab the link
[22:44] <lasersaber> HexaChop, hopefully someone will be able to help you
[22:44] <HexaChop> lasersaber I hope you are not too offended that I rather not love-chat?
[22:44] <lasersaber> live*
[22:44] <HexaChop> lasersaber live* LOL
[22:44] <lasersaber> lol
[22:44] <royal_screwup21> lasersaber lol it's not there!
[22:44] <basedmars> SierraKomodo, this github page will sort you up https://github.com/meetfranz/franz-app/releases
[22:45] <lasersaber> just need to see what is happening, no need to video chat or even show your face etc
[22:45] <HexaChop> lasersaber, would you like to continiue to solve my issue?
[22:46] <papabose> I am upgrading to 16.04, want to use btrfs for /home partition on SATA harddisk, is it safe ?
[22:46] <lasersaber> royal_screwup21, ok
[22:46] <Jordan_U> royal_screwup21: What do you use quicktime recording for?
[22:46] <royal_screwup21> Jordinary: I basically want to make a youtube video
[22:46] <tatertots> HexaChop: looks like you made some progress and actually got a OS to install to hard disk, good job.
[22:47] <royal_screwup21> plus, I haven't used anything like quicktime bfore, so I want to tryout something new
[22:47] <HexaChop> tatertots, thank you, mate :)
[22:47] <Jordan_U> royal_screwup21: So you want a video editor, correct?
[22:47] <lasersaber> HexaChop, i would describe your issue again to the channel in case others missed it
[22:47] <Speiros> royal_screwup21 There is also openshot video editor.
[22:47] <HexaChop> lasersaber do you what is the issu enow yourselfl mate?
[22:47] <royal_screwup21> Jordinary: Basically, yeah
[22:48] <basedmars> btrfs is generally safe papabose . However ext4 is tried and tested filesystem and highly stable.
[22:48] <Jordinary> Nice slip up royal_screwup21, you meant Jordan_U :)
[22:49] <royal_screwup21> Jordan_U aw, sorry :P
[22:49] <Speiros> royal_screwup21, I use openshot for making my music videos (although not many are out to be seen as I took most down:))
[22:49] <Jordan_U> royal_screwup21: http://askubuntu.com/questions/5911/video-editing-software-options
[22:49] <lasersaber> at this point i forgot lol
[22:49] <papabose> basedmars: Thanks! I want to try ZFS and btrfs, may be on a external hardrive then!
[22:49] <HexaChop> lasersaber, just to remind you, I would like to ask you to re-post it on the channel, would be highly appreciated, mate, I need to fix boot loading screen.
[22:50] <royal_screwup21> thanks Speiros!
[22:50] <HexaChop> lasersaber (it is midnight, my brain is malfunctioning, I was refering to tatertots...)
[22:50] <lasersaber> sorry, bbl
[22:50] <Speiros> royal_screwup21, np mate.  It has less glitches than pitivi, but remember to save each step of the way.
[22:51] <HexaChop> Speiros, could you re-post my issue, mate?
[22:51] <Timvde> I'm not sure what could have possibly gone wrong, but I'm on a server here where /etc/apt/sources.list *does not exist*. Is there any other fix than just looking for the file on another pc and copying it over?
[22:51] <Speiros> HexaChop, Okay.
[22:51] <HexaChop> Speiros, thanks a huge bunch. :)
[22:52] <Jordan_U> Timvde: I'm wondering what other critical files might be missing. Please pastebin the output of "lsb_release -a".
[22:52] <Timvde> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23767255/
[22:52] <royal_screwup21> I typed in sudo apt update and I got this shit:
[22:53] <HexaChop> royal_screwup21, no swearing, please, mate.
[22:53] <ikonia> royal_screwup21: don't swear please
[22:53] <HexaChop> ikonia and ioria, are you sisters or something? :D
[22:53] <royal_screwup21> (Code: 0) There was an error with TheP(aste)B.in!
[22:53] <Speiros> Hexa Chop (one word) has just uploaded Ubuntu 16.4, which are on the same computer as his windows 10.  He has them on separate drives, and they worked well.  When swapping, he plugged in some other hardware, and since unplugging it, has been left with a blank purple screen on load up.
[22:53] <Speiros> HexaChop, Is that about right?
[22:54] <Speiros> royal_screwup21, It looks like you've put a command on there using Pastebin.
[22:54] <Speiros> royal_screwup21, Rather, using the words "pastebin" somehow.
[22:54] <HexaChop> Speiros, yeah, you could say except I am getting loading balls without any logo and getting purple strip and the background is black (situation changed, mate, but good enough. Thanks! :))
[22:55] <Gamemako> Well, guess it's time to ask again. Got a 32-bit EFI issue. Can only boot via boot stick -> grub menu. Have installed grub-efi-ia32 and all, but no dice. Boot goes past EFI boot and straight to legacy/BIOS, hits grub-rescue because i386-pc is not present (i386-efi is, but can't boot through it). efibootmgr -v shows some odd structures I would not expect, namely a whole lot of periods. Any ideas on what causes the periods, o
[22:56] <royal_screwup21> https://thepasteb.in/p/NxhVD2gg22YiN
[22:56] <royal_screwup21> I typed in sudo apt update and I got this^
[22:56] <royal_screwup21> what does it mean?
[22:56] <HexaChop> Speiros, I got invalid core dump error...
[22:57] <HexaChop> Speiros, what is going on?
[22:57] <Gamemako> (Oddly, the log shows my previous comment truncated, but the client here does not. Is that a log quirk, or are you all seeing a truncated message as well?)
[22:57] <k1l> royal_screwup21: do you have any other program running that uses the ubuntu repos?
[22:58] <k1l> royal_screwup21: like software center or the updater etc
[22:58] <Timvde> Jordan_U: I... Can't believe this. I used my root powers to grep .bash_history and .zsh_history files, and a (former, luckily) admin actually executed "sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list" O.o
[22:58] <papabose> royal_screwup21: I think Ubuntu Updater is running, it holds the lock on the sources list
[22:58] <royal_screwup21> k1l: Well I think I accidentally downloaded a software twice
[22:58] <Timvde> Jordan_U: Looking through his other history now to see if there are other places where he screwed up.
[22:59] <royal_screwup21> k1l: should I reboot?
[22:59] <HexaChop> OK, going to bed, everyone, cya tomorrow, I hope to fix this issue on the 3rd day of troubleshooting...
[22:59] <Bashing-om> royal_screwup21: Hint: "  is another process using it? " .. make sure no other instance of a package manager is currently open .
[22:59] <k1l> royal_screwup21: no. that error you showed means: there is another program runnin which blocks the usage of the package system to not make a mess when 2 programs change things there.
[22:59] <k1l> royal_screwup21: its one at a time, for the package system.
[22:59] <Speiros> HexaChop, I don't know about core dumps.
[23:00] <royal_screwup21> k1l: So what should I do now?
[23:00] <k1l> royal_screwup21: do you have any other programs running like software center, updater, or other apt processes?
[23:00] <royal_screwup21> oh lol I tried running the command again, and it worked
[23:01] <Jordan_U> Gamemako: Your message was truncated at ", o".
[23:03] <Gamemako> Jordan_U: Thank you, wasn't sure since Pidgin seems to assume the whole message went through. Used to old mIRC which stopped me from typing at the correct point.
[23:04] <tomreyn> Gamemako: you could use hexchat, it's more like mirc, and it auto wraps your messages so they dont get cut off.
[23:05] <royal_screwup21> guys, what's the tl;dr of the significance of a DE?
[23:05] <papabose> I used UEFI, but installer failed to download GRUB2, and crashed.
[23:06] <Speiros> royal_screwup21, What is tl;dr?
[23:06] <k1l> royal_screwup21: service.
[23:07] <Gamemako> Speiros: too long; didn't read -- he is requesting a short version or gist answer
[23:07] <Speiros> Gamemako, Ah, thanks:)
[23:08] <papabose> http://imgbox.com/MRjv6r0d
[23:09] <reisio> royal_screwup21: DE: desktop environment
[23:10] <reisio> royal_screwup21: the applications, principally GUI applications, which make up as a whole what satisfies your "desktop" paradigm
[23:12] <reisio> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_metaphor
[23:12] <Speiros> This is weird.  I've been up for over 24 hours now, and I'm not tired.  I hope I sleep well tonight (it's 10am here)
[23:12] <reisio> 24 isn't too extreme
[23:13] <Speiros> reisio, I go back to work next week, so I need to get a routine going.  I'm concerned about that.
[23:13] <royal_screwup21> I just typed in df -h and I see a bunch of words with their respective parameters. What are the most important things I should know?
[23:13] <reisio> it might be worthwhile to take a little nap in the afternoon, though, so you can be tired for ordinary sleepy time in the evening, instead of your body forcing you to sleep very early and you waking up in the middle of tomorrow night
[23:13] <reisio> Speiros: exactly
[23:13] <basedmars> A true 24 hour ubuntu support there Speiros . However I recommend sleep mate
[23:14] <reisio> royal_screwup21: on the right, 'Mounted on', '/' is the most important
[23:14] <reisio> royal_screwup21: and possibly /home, if you have a separate /home
[23:14] <Speiros> I did that yesterday...or whatever it's called before now, and slept for about 4-6 hours, which isn't bad.
[23:14] <reisio> royal_screwup21: then look at the 'Avail' (available) column
[23:14] <Speiros> basedmars, lol so it seems man:)
[23:15] <royal_screwup21> thanks reisio!
[23:16] <Speiros> It was 24 about 6am, so probably 28 now.  I'll have another cuppa tea and see what happens.  In the words of Roger Daltrey, "at least I'll get my washing done".
[23:16] <royal_screwup21> reisio what's the difference between /dev/sda6 and /dev/sda1
[23:16] <reisio> Speiros: down a cup of tea in the afternoon and take a nap with a timer
[23:16] <the_count> Hello, I recently installed KDE Plasma to see how I liked it, which I decided I did not. After removing it, occasionally when Ubuntu Starts up, Unity is themed like KDE, whited out and with KDE style icons. When it does this, a message pops up about an error in /usr/lib/unity-settings-daemon/unity-settings-daemon. Does anyone have any ideas?
[23:16] <reisio> Speiros: then if your body gets tired as it should, you will be able to put off sleeping till 9 or 10pm when it'll be more convenient
[23:16] <royal_screwup21> the former has a higher space availability, if that helps
[23:17] <Speiros> royal_screwup21, They are your partitions mate.
[23:17] <reisio> royal_screwup21: sda represents the first storage device, the numbers represent partitions on that device
[23:17] <Speiros> reisio Yeah, hopefully.
[23:17] <royal_screwup21> tmpf --> temporary files?
[23:17] <reisio> royal_screwup21: if they don't have FS labels, you can't really know their contents/purpose without looking at their mount points & examining their data, or /etc/fstab might say
[23:17] <reisio> royal_screwup21: tmpfs?
[23:18] <royal_screwup21> yeah I see tmpfs too under "filesystem"
[23:18] <reisio> royal_screwup21: that's a particular type of filesystem, probably for your /dev
[23:18] <reisio> or, rather for /run or /media
[23:18] <reisio> whoops
[23:20] <Bashing-om> the_count: Maybe: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ' .
[23:21] <brewmaster_> so
[23:22] <quasi6> does anyone have suggestions for a file tagging software?
[23:22] <khazakar> Hi all!
[23:22] <brewmaster_> experience with maipu switch?
[23:22] <Speiros> Hi khazakar
[23:22] <the_count> Bashing-om: I've done the first one there already. Is there any way to know if reconfiguring lightdm worked, besides waiting it out
[23:22] <quasi6> Something that I can use to change flac tags in batch
[23:23] <royal_screwup21> reisio is there a command that will tell me how much overall space I have left?
[23:23] <khazakar> I have a little problem with my Ubuntu 16.04 - I cannot sign file using gpg,It tells me that I don't have private key,but I generated it using password and keys app.
[23:23] <reisio> royal_screwup21: yes, but it'll depend on how your system is setup
[23:24] <royal_screwup21> shoot the command
[23:24] <k1l> royal_screwup21: "df -h"
[23:24] <reisio> royal_screwup21: do you have a separate /home partition?
[23:24] <royal_screwup21> reisio um, nope
[23:24] <Bashing-om> theNope. seeing is what is is all that ine can do ,, now if still with issues run the above again and add ' sudo update-initramfs -u ' to rebuild the kernel image .
[23:25] <reisio> royal_screwup21: df -h | egrep '\/$' | awk '{ print $4 }'
[23:25] <royal_screwup21> k1l: I'm not really looking for chunks of informations telling me there's x GB for this partition, y GB for the other, and so on. I basically want something that'll give me a bigger picture
[23:25] <quasi6> why is there a 2 year (at least) old bug in thunar that causes it to crash when renaming a file>
[23:25] <k1l> royal_screwup21: i still dont know what your issue is at all.
[23:25] <royal_screwup21> reisio Nice!
[23:26] <khazakar> What's more,when I use command gpg --list-keys myemailthere,It tells me that I don't have public key,but It's generated using password and keys app,too :D
[23:26] <k1l> royal_screwup21: if you show the output of "df -h" in a pastebin people could tell you what lines to look at so you know for the future
[23:27] <gubernator> Hi, my headphones stopped working, and I ruled out a hardware problem (no problem in Windows on same machine). I hadn't changed anything that I know of to cause this. Ubuntu 16.10, Dell XPS 13 9350. The speakers do work. I solved this the other night by changing some pulseaudio settings as per https://askubuntu.com/questions/132440/headphone-jack-not-working. The solution was only temporary as the problem is back, even though
[23:27] <gubernator> the settings remain changed per the linked instructions. A user in #pulseaudio suggested it could be a kernel bug. Any advice?
[23:27] <gubernator> I have since removed pulseaudio to no avail.
[23:28] <royal_screwup21> k1l: I was looking for the amount of space left on my machine. I wanted to know the overall picture, not the space left on partitions
[23:28] <reisio> royal_screwup21: echo $(df -h | egrep '\/$' | awk '{ print $5 }') full
[23:28] <royal_screwup21> https://thepasteb.in/p/3lh76OJOzpGc1
[23:29] <royal_screwup21> here's my df -h. What are the important things I should know?
[23:29] <reisio> royal_screwup21: the fourth line, for sda6, is virtually all you will regularly care about
[23:29] <reisio> royal_screwup21: for /, which is your root FS mount point
[23:29] <brewmaster_> exit
[23:29] <k1l> royal_screwup21: since you dont have a seperate /home partition, the line with "mounted on : /" is the line to look at.
[23:30] <reisio> you have 380G left, 8% used (or 100-8=92% free)
[23:30] <royal_screwup21> reisio Hmm, awesome!
[23:30] <k1l> royal_screwup21: the udev and tmpfs lines are just virtual and not real partitions. /dev/sda1 is just the efi partition needed for the bootloader.
[23:31] <reisio> more than I have left :p
[23:31] <royal_screwup21> k1l: Thanks!
[23:36] <Gamemako> Well, this was expected. boot-info reports nothing at all for boot information, not even remarking that it has no boot. Time for some aspirin, I think. #ubuntu-blogs
[23:44] <tatertots> gubernator: hi
[23:46] <papabose> #http://imgbox.com/MRjv6r0d
[23:47] <Lunar_La1p> I've just upgraded 14.04-->16.04, and my ZFS pools are no longer imported on boot. I can manually do a zpool import, but this isn't wholly useful as my /home partition is on the ZFS...
[23:47] <reisio> papabose: installer? for what?
[23:48] <papabose> reisio: Installer for the OS, it failed to download GRUB for some reason. I reinstalled OS but did not use UEFI this time. That worked.
[23:51] <k1l> Lunar_La1p: is zfsutils-linux package installed?
[23:52] <Lunar_La1p> k1l: I manually installed it, but I'm now manually removing the old packages, removing the ppa, re-installing the zfsutils-linux package, and seeing if that works.
[23:53] <Lunar_La1p> (just to ensure no conflicts/problems there)
[23:53] <k1l> Lunar_La1p: yes, maybe the PPA or old packages interfer. since 16.04 got native zfs support now it should just mmount zfs tanks if it sees them
[23:59] <Lunar_La1p> OK, so, that works mostly. It means that everything happens automatically without me manually loadeing kernel modules etc. However, when zfs goes to mount the relevant pool at /home, it fails because /home already exists.
[23:59] <Lunar_La1p> Hmm, no, not that it already exists, but htat it is not *empty*.,