[16:49] <nacc> Bluefoxicy: is there a bug on that gnome-terminal change? or was that an intentional change?
[17:35] <BluesKaj> I have an odd situation in Zesty, "cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999" doesn't output to termbin, there's no url output received. Netcat is installed.
[23:31] <Bluefoxicy> nacc:  i think it's intentional and not optional.
[23:31] <Bluefoxicy> I don't know how to convince someone to bring a sledgehammer down on them for that
[23:31] <Bluefoxicy> it's also a system-breaking change:  Gnome-terminal pastes from the clipboard, so the highlight-middleclick primary buffer is inaccessible
[23:32] <Bluefoxicy> meaning you have to copy into the clipboard anything you want to middle-paste
[23:32] <Bluefoxicy> i.e. go back to where you got it and hit copy, or paste it into a text editor and then copy it.
[23:32] <Bluefoxicy> point is someone thought this was a good idea
[23:33] <nacc> Bluefoxicy: right, i think i've actually experienced it on Y as well, but I'm not sure -- I thought it was something within several layers of nesting over ssh (which would be odd for terminal to notice)
[23:33] <nacc> Bluefoxicy: yeah, seems ... amazing
[23:34] <Bluefoxicy> nope, it happens right on the console
[23:35] <Bluefoxicy> no ssh tunneling involved.
[23:35] <Bluefoxicy> Although, on consoling, the above weston RDP thing is something of a personal project for me
[23:37] <Bluefoxicy> nacc:  rather than ssh tunneling over ssh -X or -Y, you can run xrdp and then rdp in.  You can log in and it'll give you an X desktop
[23:38] <Bluefoxicy> problem is X11rdp is broken (it used to build Xorg with modified source to draw to RDP)
[23:38] <Bluefoxicy> so now it only does Xvnc backend
[23:39] <Bluefoxicy> so long story short, Weston comes with an RDP compositor--Weston draws to RDP--and Xwayland can thus run on top of Weston and draw to RDP for an X session
[23:39] <Bluefoxicy> which I want to see in Zesty, since it has the freerdp2 package required to get that built.
[23:39] <Bluefoxicy> Given that, I can replace X11rdp with a shell script that sets up Xwayland on wayland-rdp
[23:42] <Bluefoxicy> the final piece would really be a greeter that lets you log in on Xrdp, followed by a greeter that can inform its parent that you're already logged in and bail (thus sesman can immediately proxy to the standing rdp session running in the background)
[23:43] <Bluefoxicy> eventually I want that running by default, listening on localhost:3389
[23:44] <Bluefoxicy> such that you can ssh -L3388:localhost:3389 and then fire an rdp client at localhost:3388 and get RDP over ssh tunnel
[23:44] <Bluefoxicy> listening on network would be a system configuration after install
[23:47] <nacc> Bluefoxicy: you seem to know way more about this than me :)
[23:47] <Bluefoxicy> i know nothing; I stumbled across these things yesterday