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x4iI am trying to install virtualmin on Ubuntu 16.10 using official virtualmin install script. It crashes because it cannot find php5. php7 is the new standard, anyone has an advice how to install virtualmin?00:02
reisioif it wants php5, I wouldn't00:04
reisioalso, I wouldn't00:04
reisioalso, I wouldn't install php00:04
YankDownUnderx4i: Have you asked in the #virtualmin channel yet?00:05
reisiothere isn't webui like that that I'm aware of that isn't a massive security hole00:05
x4ii am a simple man, i want to make some money setting up wordpress for people. i cant hope to make it with python/go/node00:05
reisioyeah wordpress, also very problematic vis-a-vis security :p00:05
Gamemako... is that a joke?00:05
GamemakoYou can make the same dumb mistakes with any language.00:05
reisioyou really can't00:06
reisiox4i: what version of virtualmin?00:06
x4ireisio, the latest - whatever their script is downloading00:06
x4i5 smth i think00:07
YankDownUnderx4i: From the standpoint of "doing business", would it not be a more practical "base" to make use of 16.04 and then build from there up...?00:07
reisiookay, which version is that?00:07
x4i5 i'd say00:07
reisioYankDownUnder: you could make that argument, but it wouldn't really be, no00:07
linux_userback00:07
x4iYankDownUnder, i was hoping php7 will make everything feel snappier so clients wil llike it more00:07
linux_userducasse: I was wondering about my question early about btrfs and booting00:07
reisiox4i: clients have no barometer for that anyway :p certainly not php clients00:08
reisiobut you'll still be able to say "omfg we have version 7!"00:08
linux_userducasse: I was wondering about my question early about btrfs and booting, how does full disk encryption fold into using btrfs? Does btrfs do encryption? what about using LVM?00:08
x4ireisio, people like faster sites, whether they are aware of that or not00:08
reisiowhether they are aware of whether they're faster or not, even, heh00:09
x4iyou cant miss the load time00:09
reisiosure you can00:09
GamemakoLet's hear it for nonsense semantical arguments.00:10
reisiox4i: https://www.virtualmin.com/node/3960900:10
reisioGamemako: and statements that make clear the ignorance of the definition of 'semantical' :D00:11
linux_useractually I do not believe 'semantic' takes the form 'semantical' I am reasonably sure it is grammatically incorrect.00:11
GamemakoQuite possible. Let's see what m-w says.00:11
linux_useryes...00:12
linux_useror Oxford00:12
reisioheh00:12
GamemakoM-W says semantical is a variant of semantic00:12
GamemakoWhat's OED say?00:12
reisioand what does it say 'semantic' means?00:12
Gamemako:  of or relating to meaning in language00:13
reisioso when you said 'nonsense semantical', what did you say?00:13
reisio:D00:13
Gamemakononsense modifies argument00:13
reisioyes it does00:14
Gamemakoargument relating to semantics00:14
reisiowhich is the problem00:14
reisioyou said nonsense meaningfulness :p00:14
linux_userso you meant nonsense arguments of a semantic nature?00:14
Gamemakononsense argument + semantics argument = nonsense semantic argument00:14
reisiooh okay00:14
reisioyou just needed a comma00:14
linux_userbut you said semantical not semantic argument00:14
linux_userthere is the rub!00:14
reisiogotcha00:14
linux_userhe got it right now00:14
Gamemakolol linux_user :)00:14
reisio:p00:14
reisioyou gotta be on your game to use silly words like semantic :p00:15
linux_userbother parents had Masters Degrees in Education and were certified English teachers, not my fault man...I was raised that way!00:15
linux_userand yes, I do say things like: It is I and are these they?00:15
linux_userbother=both00:15
GamemakoHeh, this is what I get for spending too much time with engineers00:16
* reisio eats, shoots & leaves00:16
GamemakoI once had an engineering prof who couldn't spell to save his life00:16
reisiothat's the only kind of engineering prof00:17
YankDownUnderGosh I'm grateful that I prefer to stick with "old, tried, true and tested" things...vastly more beneficial to overall longterm reputation...IMHO and experience...but I digress...00:17
GamemakoHm, is there any disavantage to leaving a bunch of inactive entries in efibootmgr?00:17
linux_userIf they are ones that could potentially boot windows then yes, there are! :_00:18
linux_user:)00:19
GamemakoI bet this would be a heck of a lot easier if I didn't want to keep Windows, even knowing that I won't use it00:20
reisio:p00:20
GamemakoI set all the nonsense entries with all the extra periods as inactive and created a new, should-be-valid entry as the first in my boot order00:21
GamemakoEither it works, or I'm going to have a really bad time next time I boot00:21
x4ireisio, thank you00:22
reisioget it workin'?00:23
GamemakoHrm.... it says \EFI\redhat\grub.efi00:24
linux_userComes now; a request to all present in the channel to comment upon the usage of btrfs for a root partition as conflated with the idea of full disk encryption the layering of LVM as well?00:24
linux_userthe layering=and the layering00:24
* fat_jedi on dumb mode on00:26
cosmozhi00:31
stiltzkinHi - can anyone here help with software RAID / mdraid00:31
cosmozi need some help myself so sorry stiltzkin00:32
cosmoznew to linux00:32
GamemakoWell, time to blow this up and see where it fails. Wheeee00:32
stiltzkinI recently grew a RAID6 array from 4 disks to 6 disks, then grew the filesystem (xfs_growfs), then rebooted, and now I'm getting this: http://pastebin.com/cuqJTbF100:35
stiltzkinthis doesn't seem good00:35
stiltzkinArray is showing as inactive and all disks as spares: http://pastebin.com/LVExmRap00:36
cosmozstiltzkin: since it seems we are the only two on here maybe you can answer  my question since I can't yours ;/00:36
stiltzkinsure go ahead00:36
cosmoz*answer00:36
k1lcosmoz: just ask, there are other people here, too00:36
cosmozokay i'm partitioning my windows xp install to make it ready for dual boot00:37
fat_jedistiltzkin, this seems sacary, but theres only one repetaed error00:37
cosmozusing gparted, it said it will move my C drive partition to the right00:37
k1lwindows xp is outdated and should not be used anymore, but go ahead00:37
fat_jediscary00:37
cosmozwill moving it to the right cause problems?00:37
cosmozthe free space will be on the left now, so does that mean it will try to boot first00:37
cosmozalso it says it will take 3+ hours00:38
k1lcosmoz: yes. because it will change the numbering/naming of the partition. so windows will maybe not work or have issues.00:38
stiltzkinfat_jedi, sure but I wasn't expecting any errors. The array successfully reshaped to the proper size with the right number of disks, and now I'm only seeing 4 disks and this error00:38
stiltzkinIt took about 18 hours to reshape00:38
GamemakoHm.00:38
cosmozk1l: anything i can do?00:38
k1lcosmoz: usually, you resize and make the unused space on the right side00:38
cosmozthat is what I thought was going to happen00:39
cosmozanyway to move the unused space?00:39
k1lcreating new partitions on the left side will change the numbering. that is the issue00:40
stiltzkingrub should detect where windows is installed regardless00:40
stiltzkinit shouldn't matter if it's in the first or second logical partition00:40
k1lcosmoz: yes, you can move the partition to the right again. but that is doubled work instead of making it proper on the first run,00:40
cosmozooh okay thanks stiltzkin00:40
k1lstiltzkin: its windows itself what makes issues out of that00:40
cosmozits in the process of moving the partition right now sadly00:41
cosmozi'm fine with the extra time/work as this is an older pc00:41
cosmozjust not sure how to fix it00:41
cosmozand i wont know the damage for 3 hours00:42
GamemakoWell, efibootmgr changes are gone by next boot. I must be missing something in this process. update_grub didn't do it.00:42
k1lcosmoz: on gparted you can move the partitions. so move that smaller windows partition to the left then00:42
cosmozcurrently it says i have the following partitions: /dev/sda1 - fat16 - 54.88MiB, unallocated - 259.09Mib, /dev/sda2/ - ntfs 254.08GiB - boot - (this is being moved I think), unallocated - 39.06Gib, /dev/sda3 - 4.64Gib00:45
cosmozgparted reads - Move /dev/sda2 to the right and shrink it from 293.39 Gib to 254.08GiB00:46
cosmozplease advise k1l on what to do after Gparted finishes this part00:47
cosmozk1l: ^00:47
k1lwhat is the endgoal?00:47
reisioI wouldn't think moving to the right would necessarily change the partition number, but I don't use gparted much00:47
linux_userits a large thing that you a kick a ball between00:47
cosmozto install linux on the unallocated space, keep windows xp and have dual boot00:47
k1lreisio: not as long as you dont create new partitions on the new spot to the left, right00:48
cosmozeventually i'll delete windows xp after I test out linux00:48
* linux_user says windows xp is worthless and devoid of support, extirpate it!00:48
cosmozthat is the plan but wanted to make sure things functioned00:48
k1lcosmoz: again: you can move partitions. so shove the partition of windows to the left again. and do it with all other patitions, so all the unallocated space is grouped at the right00:49
cosmozagain new to linux so figured i'd test it and the instructions for dual boot seemed easy enough when i started00:49
linux_userthat is what a live CD/DVD is for00:49
cosmozokay thanks k1l00:49
cosmozi'll try that00:50
cosmozhow exactly do i do that with gparted00:50
k1lpartition settings -> move00:50
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cosmozheh didn't know it was so easy00:50
cosmozi only thought there was a resize/move option00:50
stiltzkinWell, I think all of my data has been destroyed.00:53
stiltzkinNote to self in the future, unless all partitions are removed from drives before adding them to a RAID array, your data silently gets destroyed on reboot00:54
cosmozdo you have a backup stiltzkin00:55
stiltzkinNo way to backup 9TB of data00:55
stiltzkinI can rebuild most of it, it will just take months00:56
cosmozdamn that is a shit ton of data01:01
royal_screwup21I want to delete all files starting with the letter 't'. What should I put after "rm"?01:02
Ben64t*01:04
stiltzkinI get the sense that it might be possible to recover from this but I really need someone who knows mdraid01:05
dysocoGuys where can I check why does Ubuntu 16.10 keep crashing randomly? It's been twice in like 1h of using it, what kind of log do I need to look at?01:06
dysocoIt randomly freezes and I have to hard reset the PC01:06
stiltzkinI think the problem is that the kernel is seeing the plain XFS partitions on the drives that I added to the array before it's seeing that they are also array members, so they do not get picked up by mdraid and the array goes inactive01:06
Ben64dysoco: check all the logs01:06
dysocono idea what it can be though01:08
dysocoI'm guessing Nouveau01:08
Ben64dysoco: usually it's because of a hardware problem01:08
dysocoBen64, Alright it happened again but I can pinpoint it now01:11
dysocoit's either Chrome or Youtube, because I reopened my Chrome tabs and it crashed again01:11
dysocoso I'll open Chrome and NOT open Youtube now and check it01:11
dysocoapparently I need the NVidia drivers, it's a problem with html5 playback and Nouveau01:12
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raynoldahh it's a wonderful day01:16
zhangyankun这是什么?01:20
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ubottuzhangyankun: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw01:21
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Mobius164Time for a noob question?01:32
Mobius164I have an SSD on my desktop right now (NOT my main drive, just using it for some steam games and some other random files). Would I be ok to take that out and use it for another computer (assuming it was wiped and formatted properly)?01:34
k1lMobius164: i dont see a reason why not.01:34
bazhangMobius164, does ubuntu relate to this somehow01:34
Mobius164yeah, i plan on formatting and installing ubuntu on the new pc.01:35
bazhangMobius164, it's fine to do01:36
Mobius164thanks! just wanted to make sure. i'll see y'all in a bit.01:36
maximilianohello guys, I am running 16.04. For a while I was able to mount my windows partition and make links to the favourite folders. However, a couple of weeks ago I noticed my links to these folders didn't work. The /media/ folder shows the windows partition drive multiple times with a different number at the end. Also, when I remove a USB drive or a external HD it tells me that it was mounted by...01:42
maximiliano...a different user and I need to enter password to be able to remove them. I suspect this is relevant. What am I doing wrong? what could have changed in the past couple of weeks for this to happen?01:42
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cfhowlett!ping01:46
ubottupong!01:46
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uxfigood evening...01:58
stiltzkinStill looking for RAID help if anyone is available and knowledgeable on the subject02:00
cfhowlett!ping02:02
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cfhowlettask your ubuntu question uxfi02:03
cfhowlett!raid02:12
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto02:12
stiltzkinI appreciate that but I've got a more specific question than that02:13
stiltzkinI think I'm making progress, the array now shows as degraded raid6 with two removed drives02:13
stiltzkinI just need to know how to re-add those drives, should I do mdadm --add?02:14
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twenty-threehello guys, I am running 16.04. For a while I was able to mount my windows partition and make links to the favourite folders. However, a couple of weeks ago I noticed my links to these folders didn't work. The /media/ folder shows the windows partition drive multiple times with a different number at the end. Also, when I remove a USB drive or a external HD it tells me that it was mounted by...02:16
twenty-three...a different user and I need to enter password to be able to remove them. I suspect this is relevant. What am I doing wrong? what could have changed in the past couple of weeks for this to happen?02:16
cfhowlett!ops | mike 1802:16
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foopermancfhowlett: Dude, he's already been killed.02:17
summakor_Windows 10 "shutdown" is now actually Hibernate, and leaves some disk partitions as 'mounted' and you may need to be sudo on Linux to mount them.02:17
cfhowlettI was too slow.  thank you!02:17
k1lcfhowlett: sigyn, the freenode anti spam bot, took already care of it.02:17
cfhowlettyeah, my connection seems to lag badly today.02:17
summakor_I had to change Windows 10 settings so Shutdown is really Shutdown, then mounting the partitions under Linux was fine.02:17
twenty-threesummakor, thanks. However, I am running windows 7. And this wouldn't explain why I need to enter credentials when trying to remove USB drives that were inserted during the current ubuntu session02:20
kk4ewtcfhowlett,  geez drone took care of it02:21
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plshelpstupid question: can i use rsync with the destination being unallocated space?02:47
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r34p3r_hello02:52
MozammelGood morning Ubuntu lovers ! Wish you all have a great DAY !!!02:54
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poco_ I'm installing Kubuntu on an SSD and HDD. I want the SSD for boot and some other frquently used programs and the HDD for everything else. I was thinking of making the SSD root and the HDD /home but then apps like Steam, Wine, Spotify, etc will install to a "/." directory, correct? Will I have to manually change all of these? Is there any easier way?03:05
erc7erc7hola a todo el mundo03:07
erc7erc7hola03:08
erc7erc7hola03:08
unknown_sup peeps03:08
uberalex88hello03:12
benguitarHello everyone, quick question for those of you using Ubuntu on a laptop. What laptop do you recommend? I'm currently looking at Chromebooks (Acer Chromebook 14) but I was wondering what you guys use. Not looking to drop a ton of money nor do I need a ton of horsepower.03:15
uberalex88Lenovo thinkpads are pretty good.03:17
cfhowlettbenguitar, make an ubuntu USB, go to your computer store, boot said USB and test for yoursef03:17
benguitarCool, any one in particular?03:17
benguitarcfhowlett, lol I never thought of that.. What a neat idea..03:18
uberalex88well if you want a good supported laptop for gaming you can look at the Lenovo campatiblity list on Ubuntu's website03:18
benguitarNot really for gaming, just browsing and spread sheet stuff, possibly minor audio recording with ardour or bitwig, and nothing more than gimp for photo editing.03:19
unknown_i was always more of buy the hardware you like it first03:20
unknown_and make it all work afterwards03:20
unknown_pretty much anything tehse days will runf ine on linux03:20
benguitarunknown_, that is what I figured.03:20
uberalex88well in that case, you can get a chromebook and load it or if you dont like chrome books, any low end dell or lenovo works pretty good in my experience03:20
benguitarbut I just wanted to be cautious03:20
unknown_why buy supar or compromise on hardware just because03:21
unknown_also03:21
unknown_you never know when you will actually want to use the hardware as it was intended on windows anyway03:21
unknown_so its good to have that option too03:21
benguitarTrue.03:21
unknown_and dont forget everything can be virtualized now03:21
unknown_dotn worry abotu support03:21
unknown_i certainly wouldnt03:22
unknown_linux certified hardware is more for stuff like peripherals or add ons03:22
unknown_and even then03:22
Mr1NKi used hp 14 Gxxxx and installed 2 distro03:23
unknown_and if something doesnt work as good unde rlinux03:23
unknown_virtualization or native which is basicalyl the sane thing03:23
unknown_get something you can passthru hardware03:24
unknown_and have tons of RAM03:24
benguitarunknown_, cool. I'm browsing Dell and Lenovo now03:25
unknown_those chrome books are cool because theyre affordable come preinstalled with "linux" and seems to have a good balance of hardware and cost03:25
unknown_if i bought a cheap laptop to carry around for fund id def look at chromes03:26
unknown_benguitar, yeah do this03:26
unknown_find good hardware that has good reputation/reviews03:27
benguitarunknown_, yeah I'm looking at Lenovo's thinkpad 13 chromebook, and other models as well03:27
unknown_narrow it down to 2 or 303:27
unknown_then finalyl look up about people running it with linux03:27
unknown_if the hardware is good03:27
unknown_thats a reason for better support including linux03:27
unknown_cool03:30
Breadchumphey dax :)03:30
elkyBreadchump: don't start here.03:31
Breadchumpelky i understand youre married to the guy and all, but really, its between us03:31
elkynot on my watch in my channel03:31
Breadchumpoh so you want to play, huh? dont do that because i will take your mind and i will break it. ask your friend metaleer/bremstrahlung that03:32
Breadchumpwhat are the best alternatives to wubi?03:33
Breadchumpi heard its not recommended anymore03:33
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unknown_lolwut?03:35
* Breadchump laughs03:38
Breadchumpthemill what gives bro03:41
Breadchumpthemill why the quiet in #debian03:41
k1lBreadchump: this channel is for technical ubuntu support only. please dont bring issues from outside this channel into here. thanks.03:42
* SierraKomodo really needs to update that script to only notify her of kicks in channels she's actually an op in..03:44
benguitarunknown_, I may have also just discovered system76.. Now that is kinda cool, definitely in a separate category from Chromebooks but pretty cool03:44
jaythelinuxguy_System76 is great, I have three machines from them.03:55
benguitarjaythelinuxguy_, Nice, elaborate?03:56
unknown_le tme look03:57
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jaythelinuxguy_Elaborate as far as which machines?03:58
benguitarjaythelinuxguy_, yes and pros/cons and so on.03:58
unknown_Personally03:59
jaythelinuxguy_I have the Lemur, Ratel Pro, and Meerkat. Pro's are that they are very stable, and I'm not paying for Microsoft software I'll never use. Another pro is that the build quality is nice. The only cons are that while the build quality of my Lemur is really good, it's not necessarily Thinkpad tough. The keyboard is really good, but not Thinkpad good.03:59
unknown_i wouldnt buy something like that just for the linux support03:59
jaythelinuxguy_Thanks unknown, I don't know why I forgot to mention that. The Linux support is of course really good. It takes the guess work out of whether or not the machine will work with Linux.04:00
unknown_benguitar, you could always buy both and spend some time with them, sometimes nothing better than just having it in your hands04:00
unknown_jaythelinuxguy_, honestly i have never met a machine that "didnt work" with linux04:01
jaythelinuxguy_unknown, I've run into countless machines that have any issue with Linux.04:01
unknown_which can be fixed04:01
jaythelinuxguy_Since switching to System76, everything is easier.04:01
unknown_always a fix04:01
unknown_90% of the time anyway04:01
jaythelinuxguy_You're right, but sometimes the fix is driver related, and I'm not a developer.04:02
unknown_yeah04:02
jaythelinuxguy_Actually, most of the time the fix is driver related.04:02
unknown_i udnerstand what youre saying04:02
benguitarjaythelinuxguy_, good to know.04:02
unknown_my logic is04:02
unknown_if youre running linux04:02
unknown_youre not the average joe04:02
unknown_either way04:02
jaythelinuxguy_In my case, I've switched a lot of "Average Joe's" to Linux.04:02
jaythelinuxguy_So I don't necessarily think of it that way.04:02
unknown_youre probbaly the guy that likes to tinker with things04:03
jaythelinuxguy_The way I think of it, is that my machines are very important to getting a pay check. It just has to work.04:03
unknown_otherwise why not just buy a mac04:03
benguitarunknown_, lol this is also tru04:03
benguitartrue*04:03
jaythelinuxguy_Mac's are great, but I won't consider a closed-source OS.04:03
unknown_then youre back to idealogy04:03
unknown_lol04:03
jaythelinuxguy_I do understand that there's no getting around to some things, here and there. But the OS? Must be open source.04:04
unknown_the irony of it is that04:04
benguitarjaythelinuxguy_, I used to work for the fruit stand, and I'm selling one of my Macs for the Chromebook, system76 world due to the severe lack of power needed to do basic crap04:04
jaythelinuxguy_The Mac hardware is great, no denying that. But their biggest problem is that you can never really depend on when a new model is released, and Mac hardware stagnates almost as bad as Debian stable.04:04
unknown_you still have to use proprietary software to get by on linux04:05
wiki_rubyonrails04:05
jaythelinuxguy_Other than the firmware in the motherboard, that's not always true.04:05
unknown_are you saying you do not use any proprieary closed soruce software or drivers?04:05
jaythelinuxguy_But I do agree, that there are some proprietary requirements here and there.04:05
jaythelinuxguy_I am saying that I try my best not to.04:05
jaythelinuxguy_My motto is this: I consider open-source first. If, and only if, there is no open-source equivelant, I'll consider closed.04:06
unknown_yeah04:06
jaythelinuxguy_Since operating systems have many open-source options, there's never a reason for me to consider a closed-source OS.04:06
unknown_my point is why suffer with subpar hardware just because of ideology04:06
unknown_i totally get you tho04:07
jaythelinuxguy_I don't suffer with subpar hardware, though. My hardware is great.04:07
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pressure679Why doesn't tlp load on startup in 16.04.1 as it did in 14.04.x? What is wrong with me?04:12
jaythelinuxguy_What does this show: systemctl status -l tlp.service04:12
pressure679Oh, we use syatemctl now instead of service >.<04:13
jaythelinuxguy_Assuming you're runing a recent version, yes.04:13
jaythelinuxguy_14.04 doesn't use systemctl, if I recall properly.04:13
pressure679Thanks for the clarification :)04:15
jaythelinuxguy_No problem04:15
poco_just installed Kubuntu, at first could get to login page but then monitor would just flash colors. Then I tried what this guy suggested http://neogregious.blogspot.com/2013/05/korean-ips-monitors-and-nvidia-under.html and now I can only get to the command line on boot- not login page or desktop04:17
poco_right as it looks like it's about to throw me onto the login screen I see a flash of green lines, the Kubuntu 16.04 splash and then black :(04:18
jaythelinuxguy_Did your screen ever work properly?04:18
poco_it works fine with Windows, the Kubuntu install, and I'm getting the same results on two different monitors with different input types04:19
jaythelinuxguy_I may be wrong, but I don't think that link you posted has anything to do with your issue.04:19
jaythelinuxguy_I would assume your login screen wouldn't work either if it were an EDID issue.04:19
jaythelinuxguy_Did the screen in Kubuntu work before you installed the closed-source nvidia driver?04:20
poco_yeah I did have a login screen before but that was only once04:20
poco_no, only the login page the very first time I installed Kubuntu04:20
jaythelinuxguy_Did you at any point install the binary nvidia driver? Or did you never get that far?04:20
kn_Is there any terminals that exist that display ansi art now a days?04:20
poco_yes04:21
poco_after serveral times, I installed nvidia-current04:21
poco_I can access the terminal with alt-cntrl+(1-6) just fine if that's what you're asking04:21
jaythelinuxguy_Did you get a desktop interface in the live cd before installing Kubuntu?04:21
poco_yes04:21
kn_Is there any terminals that exist that display ansi art now a days?04:22
poco_I don't understand the question sorry04:22
jaythelinuxguy_Just for kicks, perhaps install openbox and select that as your desktop on the login screen, and see if that works? That will tell you if the issue is KDE or driver-related04:22
jaythelinuxguy_sudo apt-get install openbox04:23
poco_I can't get to the login screen anymore04:23
jaythelinuxguy_Right, but you get a terminal, right?04:23
poco_upon boot off the grub it just goes black04:23
poco_yes04:23
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poco_ah just run openbox?04:24
jaythelinuxguy_Do you still see the KDE login screen?04:24
poco_just a terminal login screen04:24
jaythelinuxguy_Right, I'm not saying use Openbox as your main desktop, but it's a small package to install just to test04:24
jaythelinuxguy_But if you don't have the KDE login screen working, you won't be able to select Openbox. You'd have to do some configuration to xinitrc and that's a pain04:24
poco_ran "sudo openbox" and got "Failed to open the display from the DISPLAY enviornment variable"04:25
jaythelinuxguy_Don't run sudo openbox, try just openbox04:25
jaythelinuxguy_Normally, you would use the startx command04:25
poco_same error04:25
jaythelinuxguy_The startx command starts the display server04:25
poco_ran startx, aaaaand I have.... something?04:26
poco_hold on04:26
jaythelinuxguy_If it's Openbox, you'll have a right-click menu04:27
poco_alright I have a black screen, three dialog boxes from Plas,a saying "Plasma closed unexpectedly" deatils: "Executable: plasmashell PID: 2235 Signal: segmantation fault (11) Time: 1/8/17 22:26:0304:27
poco_ah the three dialog boxes are for PID 2433, 2015, and 2235 respectively04:28
jaythelinuxguy_Have you run a memory test lately?04:28
poco_I have not04:29
jaythelinuxguy_Segmentation faults are usually either caused by memory issues, or software bugs.04:29
poco_I've been using this computer for years with Win 10 and tonight just wiped Windows and decided to dual boot04:29
poco_should I run a memtest from grub?04:29
jaythelinuxguy_Yes. Keep in mind that Windows is (sometimes) more tolerant to memory issues than Linux is.04:30
poco_interesting04:30
jaythelinuxguy_Let memtest run for about ten minutes or so. The test just restarts when it finishes. If you survive ten minutes with no errors, your memory is most likely fine04:30
poco_thanks jaythelinuxguy_ I'll report back04:30
jaythelinuxguy_Cool, good luck04:31
sabrehageni'm on xubuntu 16.04. i have three monitors. sometimes two of my monitors don't power back on after the computer sleeps. i can force them back on via xrandr though https://gist.github.com/sabrehagen/66da13e33820788270015305d8a385f904:37
sabrehagenis there somewhere i can view the 'monitor' logs to look for any error messages?04:37
poco_jaythelinuxguy_, memtest ran for 10 min showing no signs of errors. Do you think another install can help?04:43
jaythelinuxguy_It can help but I don't think it will necessarily isolate the issue, unless you try a different flavor with a different desktop other than KDE04:44
poco_hmm any other ideas at this point? any way or reinstalling drivers maybe?04:44
jaythelinuxguy_Perhaps try Ubuntu GNOME or Ubuntu MATE, just to see if you run into the same issues?04:45
Doc-SaintlyI'm running an ubuntu VM (virtualbox). I'm having issues with the networking. I see the Ethernet controller under LSPCI, but ifconfig isn't showing any connections for it. How can I fix this?04:45
poco_ok I'll try it tomorrow. I really appreciate the help04:46
jaythelinuxguy_No problem04:46
CapprenticeI have added the directive - listen-address 127.0.0.1 ,1x.4x.8x.4, I want to disable AAAAAA responses.What to do?04:49
Kristof_HThey, good evening - anybody here using sublime text under linux who managed to make it work with hsdev04:50
rcmainakhello! I want to move a steam game from one computer to another computer & play the game in the later computer. Can anyone help?04:54
jackWhen I upgraded to 16.04 I keep getting error msg, so now I am going to reinstall and I am thinking on using mint04:56
Kristof_HTI'm having hard time adding my custom bin pat to PATH05:00
Ben64Kristof_HT: easy mode is to use ~/bin05:00
Kristof_HTi have my bins here: /home/kristof/.cabal/bin05:01
Kristof_HTso I edited /.profile to include05:01
Kristof_HTPATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH:/home/kristof/.cabal/bin:"05:01
Kristof_HTand it still doesn't work05:01
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brophatI upgraded to 16.04 and I keep getting error msgs, I am going to reinstall, should I use mint instead?05:03
Ben64Kristof_HT: reboot05:04
Kristof_HTBen64, i already did,05:06
Kristof_HTtried to run ~/.profile, tried rebooting05:06
Ben64so whats wrong with ~/bin05:07
digital_ghosthey diodon is not working properly. what is an alternative for diodon clipboard manager05:07
Kristof_HTBen64 all i know is that the software i installed loaded it's bins to home/user/.cabal/bin05:08
Kristof_HTso trying to set path there05:09
Ben64Kristof_HT: so move it to ~/bin ....05:09
psyrusdoes anyone know how to record streams with audacious?05:11
psyrusi click on the record stream and it puts a checkmark  there but i dont see anyhting happening05:12
psyrusoh wait i see it now05:12
psyruslol05:12
psyrusthanks guys im stupid05:12
xangua!doesntwork | digital_ghost05:13
ubottudigital_ghost: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.05:13
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KagomeShukoDoes anybody know the name of the debian program for installing software packages on Ubuntu?05:27
k1lKagomeShuko: apt or dpkg?05:28
k1lKagomeShuko: or do you mean a gui program?05:29
KagomeShukonot sure  . . . sister is helping me05:29
KagomeShukotrying to set up software05:29
KagomeShukohave no idea what to do if I find files on SourceForge05:29
k1lubuntu comes with "software-center" on the desktop.05:30
KagomeShukoyes, I have that05:30
k1lKagomeShuko: you should first look out if that software is not already shipped in the ubuntu repos.05:30
KagomeShukobut it doesn't have all the programs that I once had on earlier version of Ubuntu before05:30
unknown_jaythelinuxguy_ I apologize, maybe subpar maybe not the correct word i was looking for, i should mention english is not my primary language. It's great the hardware is worth what yore paying for.05:30
kaytaHey guys, does anyone know if oracle-java8-installer in ubuntu comes with javafx?05:31
k1lsome projects get dropped if the projects arent active anymore. so what programs do you want KagomeShuko ?05:31
Ben64kayta: oracle java isn't in ubuntu so we don't know05:31
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Mr-Frog_I'm having trouble with connecting to a CUPS print server.05:32
Mr-Frog_I can connect to one via the GUI and print a test page, but when I close the GUI it automatically disconnects and switches back to usb05:32
KagomeShukokll  I found one and I don't remember all the names right now05:34
KagomeShukoI found Synaptic05:34
KagomeShukoshould I get Muon, too?05:34
rcmainakhello! I want to move a steam game from one computer to another computer & play the game in the later computer. Can anyone help?05:34
k1lKagomeShuko: muon is a KDE program. if you dont use kde that doesnt make sense.05:35
k1lKagomeShuko: and synaptic sees the same packages as the software center. so that is not helping if you dont know the name neither.05:35
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kaytaBen64 That's true, can you direct me where I might get help on this matter?05:39
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* cuddle waves05:44
Ben64kayta: wherever you're finding the oracle package05:44
kaytaBen64 I added a repository webup8team/java05:45
lolcatHello05:59
lolcatmy zpool wont expand05:59
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lolcatwhat to do?05:59
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cedriczgHi there!06:13
cedriczgIt may be a too specific issue but I am trying to connect my iphone to my elementary OS. I followed the steps under https://gist.github.com/samrocketman/70dff6ebb18004fc37dc5e33c259a0fc . However I am getting following error now: Failed to connect to lockdownd service on the device.06:14
reisiocedriczg: for what purpose, exactly?06:14
cedriczgreisio, to be able to see my iphone contents in order to perform a backup of photos06:15
cedriczgreisio, after I updated to iOS 10 on my iphone my PC is not able to open the phone contents06:15
reisioI would do that wirelessly, via an ssh/sftp client06:16
reisiomobile phones are simply not properly QA'd for direct connections06:16
reisioand in the case of apple, honestly they're probably even further on purpose goofy about it06:17
cedriczgreisio, Well I would like to know how to do that indeed06:17
pressure679I wonder how long my laptop will hold running everything in powersavings mode with tlp06:17
reisiocedriczg: openssh-server on Ubuntu06:20
reisiocedriczg: ssh/sftp client on iPhone06:20
reisiocedriczg: wireless router in the middle06:20
reisioyou could use bluetooth, too, but that's trickier06:20
cipher6Evening guys and gals, tatertots: around?06:21
unknown_cedriczg, i have a simple fail proof solutionf or you06:22
cipher6tatertots: If you're not busy this is mcafeemedia from last night06:22
cedriczgunknown_, Hi there. Which would that be?06:22
unknown_cedriczg, virtualize a supported OS such as windows, you even need to reboot06:23
unknown_hell you can run itunes if you would like06:24
cipher6Anyone know how to (from the Terminal) ls or otherwise view dir/files on a usb connected phone? lsusb shows a mount point06:24
cedriczgunknown_, well, I have dual booting. I have an old Windows Vista running and installed iTunes there. But still don't find the way to perform a simple task: copy my photos and videos to a backup drive06:24
unknown_pretty sure under windows ipones just show a mounted folder with your pictures and videos06:25
unknown_iphones*06:25
unknown_isnt that still the case with ios?06:25
cedriczgunknown_, Actually I would prefer to be able to do this from my linux as I backup using Shotwell which I believe rocks06:25
Ben64cedriczg: you said you're on elementary though?06:26
tatertotscipher6: hi thre06:26
cipher6tatertots: you got time for a new one?06:26
unknown_cedriczg, thats fine but its really not that more complicated, it does get the job done. You can streamline it if you had to.06:26
tatertotscipher6: what ya got06:27
cipher6tatertots: Wife's phone plugged in to my ubutnu1604 laptop, pops up in the unity doc, I can browse all the files in nautilus.06:27
cipher6tatertots: wanna use rsync to back up all her photos across the netwrok to my other ubuntu machine (also 1604)06:28
reisiocipher6: run 'mount'06:28
unknown_cedriczg, also why plug in at all, might as well transfer them wirelessly06:28
unknown_i really dont know, i dont do apple crap anymore06:28
cipher6tatertots: however, I can't get my terminal to let me browse (ls) the phone, lsusb shows the phone on bus 1,5 etc06:28
reisioalready told him that06:28
pressure679Or plug in the sd card06:28
unknown_for those reasons included06:28
cipher6reisio: mount just shows me a list of things, lsblk // ls don't show the device. lsusb, shows the device but I cna't browse it in term06:29
tatertotscipher6: are you using the computer that can browse all the files in nautilus?06:29
pressure679- if iPhones have sd cards06:29
reisiocipher6: right, relevant things =)06:29
reisiocipher6: you see a name for your phone on the left side of nautilus?06:29
cipher6tatertots: yeah, I'm on the laptop and can browse all files06:30
unknown_iphones have those stupid external pend rives dont they now06:30
cipher6reisio: Yeah, there's a phone icon in the unity dock06:30
tatertotscipher6: mount|nc termbin.com 999906:30
tatertotscipher6: i think you know the drill right?06:30
cipher6tatertots: i can't decide If I love or hate you and your |nc yet...06:30
ayman23Using lubuntu/openbox. When I change the default window title bar font from Ubuntu Medium to another font, it is never able to revert back to Ubuntu Medium. I can select it and apply, but it uses another font06:30
cedriczgunknown_, Ben64. Yes. I am on elementary OS. I asked there but no one replied...06:30
reisiocipher6: how about ls -a ~/.gvfs/ ?06:30
Ben64cedriczg: that doesn't make it ok to ask here06:31
reisiocipher6: or mount | grep -i gvfs06:31
unknown_cedriczg, thats fine, thats based off ubuntu anyway isnt it06:31
Ben64unknown_: nope not fine06:31
cedriczgunknown_, Yes, That's why I chose it06:31
cipher6tatertots: vnci   but lsusb gives a return of 0vvy06:31
ObrienDave*breaks out the popcorn* ;P06:32
cfhowlettcedriczg, go to elementary support channels.  we do not support it here.06:32
tatertotscipher6: i only need the url,06:32
cipher6reisio, I don't know you (or trust you, unfortunately and I don't know what that cmd does, so for the moment I'll refrain, but thank you for offering your assistance.06:32
cipher6tatertots: termbin / vnci06:32
reisiocipher6: 'mount' prints things that are mounted (what you're looking for)06:33
unknown_Ben64, why? if someone can offer some input and it isnt intefering with the flow of anything06:33
cipher6tatertots: lsusb output termbin / 0vvy06:33
reisiocipher6: | grep -i gvfs checks that mount output for the string 'gvfs', case-insensitively06:33
Ben64unknown_: because elementary has their own support, it is not on topic here06:33
unknown_nobody is getting paid her, its freel help06:33
reisiocipher6: ls -a ~/.gvfs/ merely lists the contents of ~/.gvfs/, including hidden files/dirs06:33
unknown_but its ubuntu based06:33
cipher6reisio, what is gvfs?06:33
Ben64unknown_: that means nothing06:33
unknown_so its essentially ubuntu with a lipstick on it06:33
reisiocipher6: what you're dealing with06:33
tatertotscipher6: lsblk -o name,type,size,uuid,fstype|nc termbin.com 999906:33
Ben64unknown_: it isn't ubuntu, so it isn't supported here, easy as that06:34
unknown_Ben64, i get you06:34
reisiocipher6: it's the stupid nonsense that's making it hard to find06:34
reisiowell, it's the implementation for the phone's stupid nonsense06:34
alkisgunknown_: another example is that ubuntu is debian based, but we're not in #debian now... :)06:34
cipher6tatertots, iqoh06:34
reisioanyway I'm trustworthy ask anyone, I even know what an antivirus is06:34
unknown_but one could ask a debian related question here if its cross referenced06:35
unknown_theyre all related06:35
unknown_at their core06:35
cfhowlettunknown_, but not ubuntu06:35
cipher6reisio, Lol, thanks, but the grep gave me a list of uninteligible user/group id's...06:35
unknown_and thats a ubuntu link i saw06:35
cfhowlettunknown_, shall we move on to ubuntu support now?  otherwise, feel free to continue debating in #ubuntu-offtopic.  thanks.06:35
unknown_thats what im trying to say06:35
cedriczgSorry for the discussion I generated. I followed ubuntu based instructions in order to be able to solve my connectivity issue06:36
unknown_he showed a ubuntu page06:36
unknown_i didnt even know it was different distro issue06:36
reisiocipher6: just look in ~/.gvfs06:37
tatertotscipher6: lsblk -o name,type,size,uuid,fstype,mountpoint|nc termbin.com 999906:37
reisiocipher6: find ~/.gvfs/ -iname '*.jpg'06:37
reisioyou're just killing me here :p06:37
cipher6tatertots, 180306:37
reisioI mean you already skipped the easy wireless way :p06:37
plshelpwhen i boot to my live usb, 16.04 doesn't get wifi06:37
cipher6reisio, sudo ls ~/.gvfs has no return at alll06:38
cedriczgreisio, I will try that. I am looking on how to perform that06:38
cipher6plshelp: what kind of laptop/desktop?06:38
reisiocedriczg: oh did I get you guys confused? :p06:38
* reisio sighs in reality06:38
cfhowlettplshelp, it happens. depends on what wifi chipset your machine is using06:38
cfhowlett!wifi | plshelp06:38
ubottuplshelp: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:38
reisiocipher6: what about plain ls -a ~/.gvfs06:39
cipher6reisio: then my term decides to be a ***** and returns . & ..06:39
reisiocool06:40
tatertotscipher6: ls probably says does not exists or something to that effect?06:40
reisioand now I have access to your personal files MUAHAHAH06:40
reisioj/k06:40
reisiogvfs is FUSE-y, though, IIRC, so technically you'd want to look as the same user, not root (sudo)06:41
cipher6tatertots: no ls for ~/.gvfs just doesn't show a return, it just goes back to $:06:41
ObrienDaveyou have to watch reisio like a hawk ;P06:41
plshelpmbp late 201106:41
reisioRIP 201106:41
tatertotscipher6: the phone isn't mounted dood06:41
cipher6tatertots: right clicking the icon in the unity taskbar i cn click "unmount"06:42
reisiosure, but if he can look at its files in nautilus, it is "mounted"06:42
tatertotscipher6: so if you were trying to do any thing in terminal with its content, you can stop06:42
xroothi all,, whats wrong with airplane mode ? I have to sleep/hibernate if i want to enable wifi and turn off airplane mode on my asus n551zu.... :(06:42
alkisgcipher6: what's the output of this command? ls /run/user/$(id -u)/gvfs06:42
Ben64xroot: what's the actual issue06:42
cipher6tatertots: and if I open nautilus, navigate to the phone and hit CTRL+L it gives me the path as mtp://[usb:001,005]/06:43
xrootthere is nothing message on dmesg and log.. :(06:43
cipher6alkisg: mtp:host=%5Busb%3A001%2C005%5D06:43
alkisgcipher6: that's where your files are06:43
alkisgcipher6: run: cd /run/user/$(id -u)/gvfs/mtp*/*06:44
alkisgcipher6: and then run ls06:44
cipher6alkisg: so if i'm in terminal trying to copy pics, i can go cp mtp:host=blahblah  ~/backup or whatever?06:44
alkisgYes06:44
Ben64no06:44
cipher6alkisg: no such file or dir06:45
alkisgcipher6: cd /run/user/$(id -u)/gvfs/mtp*06:45
cipher6Ben64: can you shed some light on the subject? i really just need this usb connected android phone to have a normal mount point06:45
cipher6alkisg: no such file or dir06:46
alkisgcipher6: use tab to autocomplete the cd command06:46
tatertotscipher6: there's these different modes android devices can operate in with connected to a PC, mtp, or it can operate as a usb mass storage device,06:46
Ben64tatertots: the last one doesn't exist often anymore06:46
tatertotscipher6: there's these different modes android devices can operate in when connected to a PC, mtp, or it can operate as a usb mass storage device,06:46
cipher6tatertots: I'm in mtp, should I swich to mass storage?06:46
Ben64cipher6: if that's an option on your phone that is what you want06:46
alkisgmtp over gvfs works fine, with ls, cp and everything06:47
Ben64alkisg: it works ok sometimes06:47
alkisgBen64: usually it's the best of the 2 options offered nowadays06:48
cipher6Ben64/tatertots Samsung Gal S6, doesn't over mass storage, just mtp/ptp/midi/POUsb06:48
cipher6offer* mass06:48
reisionoway, mass storage is so much simpler06:48
Ben64cipher6: yep they mostly don't anymore06:48
reisiothat's why apple hates it so much06:48
cipher6that's why every carrier turned it off,06:48
cipher6android made the change distro wide about year and a half ago, i think with kitkat or someting06:48
tatertotscipher6: double check your manufacture does or doesn't support the device operating as mass storage device when connected via USB to a pc.06:49
cipher6icecream sundae? who the heck knows06:49
Ben64they turned it off so they can use encryption and a better filesystem than fat3206:49
cipher6+1 to what Ben64 said, that's how Samsung uses KNOX crypto06:49
alkisgAlso because they wouldn't have to unmount the media to offer it as a block device06:49
Ben64yeah that too06:49
tatertotscipher6: that's going to be more of a mobile device thing more so than a linux thing,..well until you find out if mass usb storage mode is supported as per the manufacture06:49
cipher6what is gvfs?06:49
alkisgcipher6: read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/342319/where-are-mtp-mounted-devices-located-in-the-filesystem06:50
alkisgYou can normally run ls, cp and everything06:50
Ben64my phone shows up in /run/user/$(id -u)/gvfs/mtp*06:50
Ben64for what that's worth06:50
reisiopfft, you can use encryption and not fat with mass storage, gimme ze breakz06:51
Ben64not and have it work with anything06:51
cipher6alkisg: thanks,06:52
reisios/anything/specific proprietary nonsenses/, sure06:52
cipher6Ben64: it's really about Knox and being able to control root access for roms06:52
cipher6they just really hate xda06:52
reisioit's definitely about control06:52
reisionot that it even works woooooo06:52
reisiobut it works on enough folk06:53
alkisgcipher6: for more theory on why mtp/ptp instead of mass storage: http://www.howtogeek.com/192732/android-usb-connections-explained-mtp-ptp-and-usb-mass-storage/06:53
smeerthey about cron06:54
smeertis this right 7,25,41,57 * * * * command.sh ?06:54
reisio"this article brought to you by ${corporate shill}" at the bottom?06:54
reisiosmeert: could be, man 5 crontab06:54
Ben64smeert: doesn't look right06:54
reisiosmeert: probably with an absolute path, though06:54
smeertwhy not?06:54
smeertdont mind the command06:54
reisiohappily :p06:55
smeertim worried about the cron numbers itselfs06:55
reisioman 5 crontab06:55
reisiobut if I were you06:55
ubuntu-matehello06:55
reisioI'd put that login inside command.sh06:55
reisiohi ubuntu-mate06:55
AkiraDHi I need help with configuring vnc server to be used as a server ---> client: iPhone06:55
Ben64AkiraD: pick one of the many vnc server software packages available and run it.06:56
AkiraDCan anybody tell me if there is a man page in plain English for VNC & all the variants?06:56
AkiraD14.0406:56
reisioand all the variants? No06:56
cipher6so I have resolved the issue, kinda06:57
reisiogj06:57
Ben64AkiraD: 'man Xvnc' for one of them06:57
AkiraDWoo x? Graphical??06:57
Ben64uh06:57
Ben64you do know what vnc is, right?06:57
plshelpthere shouldn't be any inherent problems with formatting a backup partition as hfs+ in ubuntu to use for a mbp right?06:57
AkiraDIt's like teamviewer06:58
cipher6running ls /run/user/1000/gvfs/mtp:blahblah was able to display a list of the phone files, but even with sudo, I didn't have permission to cp the files from terminal, but i could from nautilus,06:58
cipher6so I'm still not sure exactly what kept me from moving files06:58
AkiraDI think I even downloaded a vnc viewer on my cbox06:58
Ben64cipher6: ls -l one of the files06:58
alkisgcipher6: you don't need sudo, but you do need to be the same user as the one that mounted the phone06:58
AkiraDXbox 1.  ***06:58
reisiocipher6: kept, or keeps?06:58
reisiocipher6: again, you don't want to be using sudo for this06:59
plshelptrying to make sure i'm stupid to think that there would be some weird compatibility issue or something06:59
cipher6Ben64: returns -rw------------ cipher6 cipher6 lots of mb's mod date  filename.png06:59
Ben64cipher6: then you can copy it with the user cipher607:00
cipher6I am cipher6....07:00
reisioand you can even delete, but don't do that07:00
xroothmm the issue is disable by hardware switch,, but I unable to echo 0 /sys/class/rfkill/rfkill[0-9]/hard... its always 107:00
alkisgcipher6: do you have any issues if you *don't* use sudo?07:00
cipher6output of cp blah is Permission Denied07:00
AkiraDI am used to older versions of ubuntu, where you could configure just about everything from GUI . But I looked at my directories and didn't even see anything like /USB/sda1 sda2 etc07:00
cipher6alkisg, let me try07:00
reisiocipher6: just rsync the parent dir, not as root07:01
HerbalistWhy do i have to click "Shut Down" so very often, before the computer finally shuts down ?07:01
reisioHerbalist: as opposed to?07:01
cipher6alkisg: omitting directory {full directory path i'm not gonna list}07:02
cipher6alkisg: if ran w/ sudo, "omitting directory {full dir path} : Permission Denied07:02
alkisgcipher6: that's probably because you used cp instead of cp -r to copy directories07:02
reisiocipher6: stop with sudo!07:02
reisiostop already07:02
reisioOMFG :p07:02
reisionot with sudo07:02
cipher6what's the danger in sudoing everything? That's how I get sammiches07:02
Ben64cipher6: what's the exact command you're doing, and yeah, when something doesn't do what you expect, don't just put sudo on the front of it07:02
reisiocipher6: it's not about danger, it just won't work, specifically because you're using sudo07:03
* cipher6 loses 6 pts for griffindor due to xkcd refs and overuse of sudo07:03
alkisgcipher6: some files systems are only accessible by the user that mounted them, and NOT by root07:03
reisioI even said that ages ago07:03
Herbalistfirst i click on the menu item Shut Down.. then a dialog appears, again i click Shut Down .. then the logic screen appears, i again have to select the menu item Shut Down ... then another Dialog appears, again i click Shut Down ... then finally the computer shuts down07:03
reisioeverybody did07:03
reisiostoppity stop stop :p07:03
Herbalistlogin screen07:03
alkisgsudo cipher6 listen to us. sudo make me a sandwitch. :D07:03
reisioHerbalist: plain Ubuntu with Unity?07:04
cipher6Ben64: exact command is cp [phone path] ~/Desktop/PicBkup07:04
Ben64that's not exact!07:04
reisioheh07:04
alkisgcipher6: cp -a07:04
reisioanyway it should work, if you run as user07:04
pressure679My pc is 8 degrees hotter with ubuntu 16.04.1 than with fedora 23 :-(07:04
HerbalistUbuntu 16.04 LTS07:04
cipher6Ben64 :P    cp /run/user/1000/gvfs/mtp\:host\=%5Busb%3A001%2C005%5D/Phone/DCIM/Screenshots/ ~/Desktop/HaileyBackup07:04
reisiopressure679: as measured by?07:04
cipher6There's the exact command07:04
Ben64cool, you need -r to copy a directory07:05
reisiocipher6: none of that is personal info, FYI =)07:05
cipher6Ben64: sudo -r?07:05
cipher6:P07:05
reisionot that it couldn't have been :p07:05
alkisgOMG07:05
Ben64i'm going to punch you over the internet07:05
cipher6I've been punched over much less.07:05
reisiocipher6: aha, that was a good joke :D07:05
reisiocipher6: but yeah, use rsync07:05
pressure679reisio: Celsius07:05
Herbalistpressure .. it proves that Ubuntu is hot07:05
alkisgResearcher-: sure it is, now we now his gf name, it's Hailey07:05
reisiopressure679: as measured by what scientific instrument07:06
reisiobut you don't know his name07:06
alkisg*sorry, reisio ^07:06
pressure679reisio: Celsius07:06
cipher6reisio, I gave my name last night while speaking to tatertots :(07:06
reisiopressure679: :D07:06
reisiocipher6: Mills?07:06
cipher6Hey it worked! Ya'll are jeanuses'07:06
reisiodid you give your full name and address?07:06
cipher6;)07:06
alkisgcredit card number? :D07:07
reisiocipher6: '/run/user/1000/...' doesn't show up in 'mount' output?07:07
cipher6reisio: I don't know what mount does, beyond fill my term screen with tons of un-carriage returned lines07:07
cipher6so I tend to shy away from it07:07
TestingIRCwhen I do "ls /et" and then press tab to autocomplete it says:07:07
reisiocipher6: mount | grep -i 100007:07
TestingIRCbash: cannot create temp file for here-document: No space left on device07:07
TestingIRChow to fix it ?07:08
reisioTestingIRC: make more space07:08
Ben64TestingIRC: free up some space?07:08
TestingIRCwhere ?07:08
TestingIRCits free07:08
reisioanywhere07:08
Ben64it isn't07:08
alkisgreisio: that's about it: gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/1010/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1010,group_id=1010)07:08
cfhowlettTestingIRC, do this: df -H07:08
Ben64"No space left on device" means there is no space left on the device07:08
cipher6gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/1000/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000)07:08
xroot:(07:08
reisiookay good07:08
cipher6reisio: ^^^^ but I don't know what it means07:08
reisioyeah but we all would have :p07:09
cipher6Also, now time to see if I can tar.xz her files without losing my mind07:09
reisioanyway, all sorted, gj07:09
TestingIRCrootfs          20511356 19554284         0 100% /07:09
cipher6reisio: wait, tell me what mount does! :P07:09
cipher6and don't say man mount07:09
TestingIRCFilesystem     1K-blocks     Used Available Use% Mounted on07:09
cipher6I'll cry07:09
TestingIRCrootfs          20511356 19554284         0 100% /07:09
reisionot much point in xz'ing JPEGs or MP4s, FYI07:09
alkisgreisio: for a complete list, one would run: gvfs-mount --list07:09
cfhowlettTestingIRC, meaning you have used - wait for it - 100% and have nothign left07:09
Ben64cipher6: lists mounts07:09
reisiocipher6: didn't I already? it just lists mount points07:09
alkisggvfs mounts don't show up in `mount`07:10
reisioyeah I did, 40 minutes ago07:10
cipher6reisio: but they don't make any since,07:10
reisiocipher6: no they don't really07:10
cipher6is gvfsd-fuse her phone?07:10
reisiobut they have enough information07:10
cipher6and on /run/user/1000/gvfs is the "mount piont"07:10
reisiono, gvfs-fuse is the imaginary filesystem for mounting her phone07:11
reisiobut the path is all you needed to get you going07:11
* cipher6 bangs head on wall till small dent forms 07:11
cipher6in head, not wall07:11
cipher6reisio: ok I'll accept that. so why not xz png/jpgs?07:11
cipher6reisio: already compact by nature?07:12
reisiopoint is, I don't remember how you responded to my suggestion of mount | grep -i gvfs 40 minutes ago, but you could've been done 40 minutes ago :p07:12
reisiocipher6: yeah07:12
cipher6reisio: I told you that I was told not to talk to strangers, and that you couldn't take pictures of me without my clothes on, even if you let me see the cool dog you keep in your van07:12
reisiowell JPEG/MP4 anyway, but the times when PNGs have more compression to go it's usually pretty tedious anyway07:12
reisiothat's a lie, though, I'm taking pictures of you without your clothes on right now07:13
tatertotscipher6: ls -lh /run/user/1000/gvfs|nc termbin.com 999907:13
cipher6reisio: that's unfortunate, I haven't shaved in a while and my front facing cam is pretty low res07:13
reisiohe's not actually looking for his stuff anymore07:13
reisioI just wanted to confirm something from earlier07:13
cipher6tatertots: 1iaa07:13
reisiocipher6: yeah, same07:13
reisiothat is our burden07:14
TestingIRCcfhowlett: can I use other place for bash's temporary directory ? other than /tmp07:14
cfhowlettI supposed but you really need to address that out of space issue or you will continue to see problems07:14
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GuestQcusNicOnIghello hello07:15
reisioTestingIRC: might start with this stuff: http://askubuntu.com/questions/5980/how-do-i-free-up-disk-space#answer-600207:16
reisioGuestQcusNicOnIg: hi07:16
gorgibest free vpn please help ?07:16
GuestQcusNicOnIgso, i figured out that 16.04 needs quite a bit of updating for the help found on Google07:16
cfhowlettgorgi, wrong channel.  use google07:16
reisiogorgi: don't cross post07:16
GuestQcusNicOnIghey reisio07:16
cipher6tatertots: what was that last paste bin for?07:16
TestingIRCgorgi: Hola07:16
gorgialo TestingIRC07:17
reisioI'm assuming he thought you were still looking for the files, and not just satisfying my curiosity07:17
GuestQcusNicOnIgi had to be come an expert on PAM and Encryption07:17
cfhowlett!test | gorgi,07:17
ubottugorgi,: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3...07:17
GuestQcusNicOnIgin a week07:17
gorgiTestingIRC, just saw your IP ? is it real location ?07:18
cipher6reisio, in layman's terms, does grep just search for a string in the output when piped?07:18
tatertotscipher6: in the event you proceed to make a back up and were in doubt of it's path. Are you now making a backup of the phone ?07:18
GuestQcusNicOnIgwhy the heck did they even make PAM it seems more a nuisance then a help, until of coure you take a look at the specifics.07:18
reisiocipher6: a line that contains a string, yes07:18
TestingIRCgorgi: you can ask in #haskell07:19
TestingIRCgorgi: they know everything07:19
cipher6tatertots: yes, I mv'd the files from the phone to my desktop, I'm now tar -cfv the pics and then I'm going to rsync them across the network07:19
cipher6tatertots: (remember I"m looking for projects for myself, not doing this out of necessity)07:19
reisiogrep is super awesome07:19
cipher6tatertots: I'm assuming I could have mv'd pipe rsync through ssh to a dir on my server?07:20
reisioWindows not having grep has always made it like... not even an OS :p07:20
GuestQcusNicOnIganyone else familiar with the fingerprint_gui?07:20
reisiocipher6: you could've rsync directly from the phone over the network to elsewhere, yeah07:20
reisiorsync'd07:20
cipher6reisio, I'm hoping their powershell gets with the times07:20
reisioGuestQcusNicOnIg: what's that?07:20
cipher6reisio, can you give me a foo example of what that command would look like?07:20
reisiocipher6: I think they have a grep written in powershell langwerge07:20
cfhowlettGuestQcusNicOnIg, "anyone else ..."? questions are a huge waste of time.  state YOUR issues and YOUR specifications for actual answers07:21
GuestQcusNicOnIgreisio, its a little app that utilizes the fingerprint reader on or USB wise fingerprint scanner07:21
reisiocipher6: rsync -av /run/whatever/magic/path user@host:optional/path/07:21
reisiocipher6: note that first path does not have trailing slash, which puts that dir inside the dir of the destination07:21
cipher6reisio: it's seriously that easy??07:21
reisiocipher6: you can also do path/ path/ (both trailing) and dump directly into destination dir07:22
cipher6I may do it again after the tar finsihes just for kicks07:22
reisiocipher6: probably yeah07:22
GuestQcusNicOnIgcfhowlett, i have figured my issues which took me two days, i all of a sudden made an effort to understand linux and more specifically ubuntu..07:22
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cipher6so, do I need to ssh into the user@host before the rsync?07:22
cipher6or should i run the rsync from my local user ?07:22
reisioso rsync -av foo bar/ gets you bar/foo, but rsync -av foo/ bar/ gets you bar/ with the contents of foo/07:22
cfhowlettGuestQcusNicOnIg, ah, sounds like a great chat in #ubuntu-offtopic.07:23
reisiocipher6: either is possible, but the latter is less convoluted07:23
reisioyou can tab-complete to the crazy gvfs path, after all, locally07:23
cipher6so in a sec I'm gonna try this, are you going anywhere in the next half hour?07:23
reisioalthough if you use sshfs, you can tab-complete either installations' paths07:23
reisioprobably not07:23
cipher6in case i rm -r --no-preserve-root /*07:23
reisioheh07:23
reisiosaw someone do that on irc the other day07:24
reisiowithout --no-preserve-root07:24
reisioI could've sworn /* wouldn't work without that07:24
reisioafter all, it'd be stupid, but whatever, it all is07:24
cipher6so i was reading the other day about a man who accidentally his whole company b/c he rm * . instead of rm *.filext07:24
reisioaccidentally what, boned his hole co?07:24
cipher6that space made about a $850k difference for him07:25
gorgiTestingIRC, HUMBOLDT STATE UNIVERSITY is this your ? (ISP)07:25
cipher6yep his entire server and ALL his clients data07:25
reisiosuch a good story: http://www.ee.ryerson.ca/~elf/hack/recovery.html07:26
reisioof course, usually it's actually the combination of misusing 'rm' _and_ the initial panic that keeps you from immediately stopping writes and then recovering the files that does you in07:26
reisiobut ultimately it's that you haven't kept backups :p07:27
cipher6reisio, I forgot my flags, so it's running but I have no idea if it's working right or it's progress :(07:29
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reisiocipher6: what, rsync?07:31
reisiocipher6: you can cancel rsync without causing any harm07:31
reisiothat's part of why rsync is the shiznit07:31
cipher6yeah but I figure i'll just let it go, it's running in top07:31
reisiono man, exercise your rsync freedoms07:32
cipher6kk ^C'd it07:32
cipher6now running w/ -av07:32
reisioif raptor gebus didn't want you to cancel rsync any time you pleased without any bad things happening, he wouldn't have given you rsync07:32
cipher6I get  v, what's archive though? Man said it was 7 different flags?07:32
reisioit's for permissions and things07:32
cipher6preserves or removes em?07:33
reisioit makes for a nice default param07:33
reisiopreserves, when possible07:33
cipher6reisio thanks for sharing that story, i love old hacker culture07:36
reisiotldr: learn vax assembler and you can be cool07:38
cipher6reisio, any reason i cna't get into offtopic? says i 'need to be identified w/ services'07:42
ducasse!register | cipher607:42
ubottucipher6: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.07:42
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reisiocipher6: yeah07:43
reisiocipher6: there are people out there that are dumb07:43
reisiopeople who want off topic chatter to be limited to people who follow rules07:43
reisiotldr: /msg nickserv help register & /msg nickserv help identify07:43
digital_ghost i am runnig ubuntu 16.04 LTS, i am trying to install "macubntu theme" using ubuntu tweak.there are two option "macubuntu unity x" and "macubntu unity classic" and "mac ubuntu ucgm"and "mac ubntu osx".which is right choice for my ubntu 16.0407:44
cipher6did that seriously just publish my login info into the chat??!07:45
cipher6reisio, can you see nickserv's message back to me or is that just how hexchat publishes stuff?07:46
Flannelcipher6: No, we don't see nickserv's responses to you07:46
cipher6Flannel, thank you!07:46
* cipher6 changes underoos07:46
reisiocipher6: -msg-'s? are private07:51
reisio/notice cipher6 beans07:51
reisioI mean, _I_ can see nickserv's responses to you, but nobody else can because their levels are <900007:51
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tnm-tv1hello. Is it possible to read username and password from my usernames in my Ubutnu sistem, so then I could automaticly login to a webpage that needs same username and password?08:05
reisiotnm-tv1: can't you just log in once and have the browser save that information?08:06
tnm-tv1reisio, cookie that is stored is a session cookie. The next time the firefox will close I would need to click on login button again. But due to the fact that this webpage will be on LCD TV for information, I would schedule weekly restart of the sistem, after the reboot I would need to click on login button again08:08
hateballtnm-tv1: you can setup kerberos SSO, and config firefox use that08:09
hateballit's however not a simple thing to do08:09
reisiotnm-tv1: there are extensions for Firefox that will preserve cookies, but08:09
reisiosites can cancel them any time they like08:09
reisiowould be a pain to automate every site's different system08:09
reisioone or two, sure08:09
alkisgtnm-tv1: it's mostly a firefox question, see a plugin like this one: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/secure-login/08:10
alkisgYou can have username/passwords bookmarked per page, they don't need to be the same as the login username/password08:10
tnm-tv1hateball, I only need this for one site, and only one site will be opened all of the time08:10
tnm-tv1alkisg, with secure login you need to click on the icon on the top of the browser corner. I need to automaticly login to web page (that will be home page) when the browser opens08:11
Herbalisttnm .. maybe KeepassX08:12
alkisgtnm-tv1: find a firefox plugin that does what you want. Ask in #firefox if you don't know one. It's really not ubuntu specific, it'll even work in windows.08:12
Herbalistpassword manager08:12
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ducassetnm-tv1: keepassx has autotype, it can fill in username+password and press enter.08:24
dean12hi08:30
alkisgHello08:31
Turiyahow do i fix a complete fuckup?08:31
Turiyain ubuntu08:31
Herbalistsledgehammer08:31
Turiyai installed qbittorrent instead of qbittorrent-nox08:31
Turiyaand now i've got x11 installed plus a shit ton of other packages on my headless server08:32
Turiyathat i dont need08:32
ducasseTuriya: please stop swearing08:32
Herbalistyou can uninstall them again08:32
Herbalistthen install the correct one08:33
alkisgdean12, don't send jpg files to people here08:34
dean12why ?08:34
alkisgbecause it's for ubuntu support, not for exchanging photos08:34
dean12okay im sorry08:35
tnm-tv1ducasse, how can I set up that everytime that specific URL would be opened in firefox keepassx would automaticly fill everything and then it would press enter?08:43
ducassetnm-tv1: look under "advanced use" here - https://ssd.eff.org/en/module/how-use-keepassx08:46
tnm-tv1ducasse, One of the most useful features of KeePassX is that it can automatically type in usernames and passwords for you into other programs when you press a special combination of keys on your keyboard. Well, that is not what I was looking for. It need to automaticly input the username and password, without me08:49
SpeirosSomeone mentioned they couldn't open their ext HDD last night, but I'm stuck not being able to open it in a user account.08:57
alkisgSpeiros: you cannot mount your external hdd?08:59
Speirosalkisg, Yes.  I typed dmesg|tail and got a response to it.08:59
SpeirosIt seems ufw blocks it08:59
alkisgWhich is?08:59
alkisgufw blocks your hdd?!09:00
alkisgThat doesn't make sense...09:00
alkisgIs it a usb hdd or a nas?09:00
kapaHello guys! I have very strange problem, and I even do not know how to figure it out and how to google this problem ;(09:00
SpeirosNo, maybe the response is wrong...09:00
SpeirosUSB09:00
SpeirosIt is a different message to the last one before I came online.09:00
SpeirosPrior to that it was something with GVFS09:00
priporgi'm getting error "ata1.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x40)" help please09:00
priporgi'm using ubuntu 16.04 Lts09:01
kapaon login screen (I use lightdm) keybord works good, but after login it's like FN button always pressed, and if type FN - and some button it writes normal letter09:01
alkisgSpeiros: what's the output of: sudo lsblk --fs | nc termbin.com 999909:02
kapaI have keyboard like this: http://www.laptopkey.com/uploads/334_1273618149_D45-keyboard.png09:02
kapaso if I press "U" it types 409:03
alkisgkapa: press Fn+F4 to turn off numlock09:03
kapahmmm09:03
Speirosalkisg The message regarding the drive is "EXT4-fs (drive name): Unrecognized mount option "x-gvfs-show" or missing value"09:03
kapabut after I connect another keyboard it becomes ok. Let me try to reboot to test it.09:04
Speirosalkisg, Ok, I'll have a look09:04
Speirosalkisg, Oh, from here, I can't sudo into terminal, as it only asks for my user sudo09:04
alkisgSpeiros: i've no idea what you mean by "user sudo"09:05
alkisgYou just provide your password there09:05
Speirosalkisg Yes, I mean sorry, I'm not sudo on this computer, but terminal asks for not the sudo password but a password for this account instead.09:05
Speirosalkisg, Sorry...on this computer I have an admin acct and a user acct.09:06
alkisgThere's no "sudo password". If you are not a sudoer, you cannot mount ext4 drives.09:06
Speirosalkisg Yes, but I am sudo on the other account, but I don't want to use the admin account for chatting and other internet stuff.09:06
alkisgSo just login as the admin to see the disk09:06
Speirosunless essential.09:06
alkisgYou need to add it to fstab then09:07
alkisgTo allow other users to mount ext4 disks09:07
alkisgOr, change udisks policy accordingly09:07
Speirosalkisg, Ah, okay.  What commands do I use, and do I do that in admin acct, and not this one?09:07
kapaalkisg, unfortunately it doesn't work09:07
alkisgkapa: do you see a led blinking when you turn on/off numlock?09:09
kapaNo, I do not have any led :(09:10
alkisgUsually laptops do have leds on top of the keyboard09:10
kapamy laptop is: http://metabox.com.au/store/Prime-Range  14.0" P641HK09:10
alkisgDon't you have a led for caps lock, for example?09:10
SpeirosOk, I'll be back soon:)  I'll try my hand at navigating the wiki, as I'm sure the info is there already.09:10
kapaalkisg no :(09:11
kapaalkisg but you are right, it could be because of numlock enabled by default09:13
alkisgkapa: xkbwatch shows graphical leds for all those keys09:13
alkisgnumlock, caps lock etc09:13
alkisgOpen a terminal, run xkbwatch, and toggle the numlock to see if the leds change etc etc09:13
kapaneed to reboot, because I connected usb keyboard (after connecting USB keyboards it's ok)09:15
kapamy laptop keyboard detects as: [    18.961] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev" | [    18.961] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105"09:15
kapaI think it can be a problem :(09:15
kapaalkisg thank you mate! I will reboot and check it again09:15
alkisgdpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration09:15
alkisg(with sudo) will allow you to change your keyboard type09:16
kapahmm! Thank you a lot!09:16
alkisgnp09:16
kapanow need to detect my keybord :)09:16
priporgi'm getting error "ata1.00: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x40)". I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. Help please09:21
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Mike_Hi09:29
Mike_Help anyone?09:29
=== Mike_ is now known as Guest19640
Guest19640hello09:29
Guest19640help09:30
Ben64Guest19640: you need to ask a question before you can get help09:30
Guest19640Oh ok09:30
Guest19640So i'm on Ubuntu LTS09:30
Guest1964016.0409:30
Guest19640And im wired connected09:30
Guest19640But i can't get internet acces09:30
Guest19640access09:30
Guest19640Anyone know how i can fit this?09:31
Guest19640fix09:31
Ben64can you ping google.com09:31
Guest19640I mean it's pretty annoying yeah I've tried everything09:31
kapaalkisg you are totally right, it helps (partly :) ) Thank you very much! I will try to configure this keyboard by dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration09:31
Guest19640Hi there09:32
Guest19640anyone know how i can fix this?09:32
Guest19640Hi farid09:33
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Guest19640wow this is a tough server09:33
Guest19640Yo cyberg09:34
Ben64Guest19640: don't do that09:34
Guest19640DO what09:34
Ben64say hi to everyone09:34
Guest19640Hi09:34
Guest19640everyone09:34
lasantoshi everyone09:34
Ben64hopeless09:34
Guest19640@Ben6409:34
Guest19640who is?09:35
Guest19640First time im on this server btw09:35
Guest19640I have no idea lol09:35
Ben64Guest19640: read this first https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc/09:35
Guest19640I mean i've tried literally everything09:35
Ben64if that's true then it's pointless to try to fix it09:36
Guest19640One sec09:36
Guest19640Its a way of speech09:36
Guest19640Oh yeah just read it09:37
nithinmmHi, I am new to ubuntu. I am not able to change the background of shotwell application.09:37
Guest19640So my situation is that i can't seem to get my internet working on Ubuntu09:38
Ben64so for the 3rd time, can you ping google.com09:38
Guest19640>Ben64 this is strange...09:38
Guest19640yes09:38
Guest19640i did that09:38
Ben64then you have internet09:39
Guest19640but nothing happens09:39
Guest19640i don't get any ms09:39
Ben64so you mean no09:39
Ben64i'm done with you09:39
Guest19640i have internet but not internet access on the pc09:39
kapao_O09:39
Guest19640lol09:39
Guest19640sup kapa?09:40
kapaI did not get it, what do you mean under internet access ?09:40
nithinmmWhen I change the background from white to black only the font color changes from black to white09:40
Guest19640Let me explain so the internet was working then i rebooted ubuntu and everything stoped09:41
Guest19640i tried everything till now i couldn't get it working again09:41
Guest19640I'm looking to a solid solution09:42
Guest19640I'm on a wired connection09:42
Turiyablame it on systemd09:42
Guest19640Are there any networking experts here?09:44
Ben64Guest19640: re-read that page i linked to you09:45
Guest19640I did09:45
nithinmmHi, I am new to ubuntu. I am not able to change the background of shotwell application. When I change the background from white to black only the font color changes from black to white09:45
Guest19640but i explained what happened over 3 times already09:45
Guest19640-ssl.09:46
bazhang##networking for the experts Guest1964009:47
rcmainakI need some steam related help on ubuntu. Can anyone help me?09:49
SpeirosI can now "see" my external hdd, but the permissions, although given in the root account, don't seem to apply to me.  On top of that, I can no longer access one of my physical drives which I used to be able to access from the user account.  Any suggestions folks?09:49
bazhang!steam09:50
ubottuValve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.09:50
bazhangSpeiros, there is no need to enable the root account09:50
Speirosbazhang I don't understand mate.09:51
bazhanguse sudo -i for the root shell if need be Speiros09:51
backboxhi !!09:51
Speirosbazhang I can't give sudo permissions from this account.09:51
backboxalquem do brasil09:51
bazhangSpeiros, what happened to get into that situation09:51
bazhang!br | backbox09:52
ubottubackbox: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.09:52
SpeirosI have an admin account, and a user account.09:52
backboxok09:52
bazhangSpeiros, the admin acct is the sudo acct, there is no other09:52
Speirosbazhang I know it's protected in a sense, but I don't know how to allow the viewing and changing/adding files etc.09:52
bazhangSpeiros, sudo is used for that09:52
Speirosbazhang Yes to the admin/sudo bit, but no, as there are guest accounts and user accounts too.09:53
bazhangSpeiros, a guest needs to change what exactly09:53
Speirosbazhang I'm using a user account to access the internet.09:53
Speirosbazhang I have a computer.  I make an admin account for making changes.  I have a user account to "use" the computer.  The user should have permissions to add, create and remove files, with authority from the admin account.09:54
Speirosbazhang So far I can now "see" the hard drives, but although permissions are given, they aren't seen from the user side of things.09:55
bazhangSpeiros, thats not how ubuntu does it09:55
Speirosbazhang What do you mean?09:55
alkisgbazhang: he's just trying to see an external hdd disk which is formatted with ext4, from a non sudoer account09:55
Speirosalkisg Yes, and also, I now can't access a physical hard drive either.09:55
bazhangSpeiros, I just said, sudo is the user, there is no root enabled by default, and no need to do so09:56
alkisgSpeiros: "now" is relative to what you changed :) What did you change?09:56
Speirosalkisg I've changed two different areas.  The first I changed was the permissions for the drives, which I did in the admin accounts.  I also used terminal to change a permission for the ext HDD, but I have to go back to see what I did...gimme a sec, I'll pull up the webpage.09:57
alkisgSpeiros: if you enter `su - speiros`, where speiros is the sudoer account, you can then use `sudo -i` to become root, even if you have logged in as guest.09:59
Cyanohow does one create a launcher on unity panel or desktop?10:00
Speirosalkisg Aah, that's what bazhang meant with the i.  Okay, let me try that.  But will that revert back once permissions are granted?10:00
priporgCyano, you can use a program to create a launcher. That would be the easiest way.10:01
alkisgSpeiros: if you mean "will I be able to exit from there", yes, you just need to type exit two times10:01
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Speirosalkisg I see.  Okay, thanks alkisg and bazhang :)  I'll keep you informed.10:02
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khazakarHi all! I hav a problem with signing a Ubuntu CodeOfConduct - launchpad says "Bad signature". Signed using GPA,because when I'm using CLI to sign gpgp tells me that I don't have any key.10:04
Cyanopriporg, do you have any program in mind?10:06
priporgCyano, no, just use google.10:08
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Cyanopriporg, thanks10:08
Speirosalkisg, When I type su - sudoacctname I get the response  "No passwd entry for user", and when I type "su - sudoacctname sudoacctpassword" as such, I get the same message, excepting a part of the password not being found afterwards.10:09
geirhaif the user has no password, the user has no password. You can't log in with it.10:09
Ben64Speiros: what are you actually trying to do10:09
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alkisgSpeiros: what is the name of the sudoer account? is it speiros?10:11
alkisgReplace "sudoacctname" with the name of the user10:11
alkisgsu - username10:11
SpeirosBen64 A couple of things, but I'll explain first.  I have on my computer at least two user accounts (and guest at this stage).  I am all of the accounts.  I use one as root, and any others for using the computer.10:11
Speirosalkisg, No, it's a long name.10:11
Ben64Speiros: what do you mean you 'use one as root'10:11
alkisgSpeiros: maybe you are using the lightdm display name and not the username10:12
Ben64there can be only one root10:12
alkisgHe means his sudoer account10:12
alkisgHis terminology sucks :)10:12
Ben64which is why i'm asking for clarification10:12
SpeirosYes, my teminology does suck...sorry 'bout that:)10:12
alkisgYup. So, Speiros, if you login with the sudoer account and open a terminal, you see a prompt user@pc. That "user" there is your username. It may be different than the long name that you see in the login screen.10:13
alkisgSo you need to type "su - user", with what you saw there10:13
alkisgYou can also run: ls /home, to see the user names10:14
SpeirosI have a name in terminal, and it is, without divulging <useracct>@<sudoeracct>10:15
Ben64why not let all the users use sudo10:15
Speirosalkisg, When I try "su - <sudoeracct> I get said message.10:16
SpeirosBen64 Security.10:16
alkisgSpeiros: <useracct>@<sudoeracct> ==> that second part is the pc name10:16
Ben64that isn't security10:16
alkisgIt's not a user name10:16
alkisgSo you are trying to login as the pc, which doesn't exist10:16
alkisgRun this: ls /home10:16
SpeirosOk...10:16
alkisgYou will see 3 dirs there10:16
alkisgYou can use one of those 3 to login10:16
Ben64having a user account is security, sudo is security10:17
Speirosalkisg Ah, I see.10:17
Ben64having separate users makes no sense10:17
Ben64especially if you still want to use sudo as them!10:17
alkisgBen64, why so? I have non sudoers accounts for my kids, for example10:17
SpeirosBen64 I'm a father, and I don't want them to have sudo.10:17
alkisgAnd I would want them to be able to mount my media disk, but not run sudo10:17
Ben64you said the accounts are all you!10:17
SpeirosYep, exactly.  Even though my kids aren't here, it's available for when they are.10:17
SpeirosBen64 Yep.  The principle is the same though, regardless.10:18
Ben64no it isn't10:18
Ben64the only way it makes sense is if they aren't you10:18
SpeirosBen64 Ok, from your eyes it isn't.  To me, I like to keep the admin and the user accounts separate, so that THAT way, always, the problemshooting is always directed through one access point.10:18
Ben64they are separate, that's what sudo is for10:19
SpeirosAnyway, back to the issue...I'll try to use the command.10:19
Speirosalkisg, Okay, I'm in as root.  Thanks for highlighting my error, so I can move forward.10:22
SpeirosIf I use "chown" does that take add the ability to change/add etc, or does it transfer it from the sudoer account?10:25
SpeirosSorry, let me rephrase that...bad syntax10:25
SpeirosIf I use "chown", does that then ADD the ability to access the drives, or does it TRANSFER the ownership?10:26
alkisgSpeiros: you don't want to use chown. You want to configure udisks to allow users to mount ext4 disks10:26
alkisgSearch for a better how-to10:27
Speirosalkisg Ok.10:27
alkisgOr, if it's just movies, use ntfs :P10:27
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metallikois it possibly to activate full disk lvm encryption after instaling ubuntu?10:30
metallikoor migrate the actual instalation to an lvm encrypted volume10:30
metalliko¿?10:30
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tomreynM3t4ll1k0: it's n ot officially supported.10:35
M3t4ll1k0i know but can be done?10:35
Turiya[21:29] <Turiya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WipM3SAYqK410:39
Turiya[21:30] <Turiya> ,get10:39
Turiya[21:30] <unfinity> YT: "Linux Sucks" - 2016 : Bryan Lunduke : 48m 46s : 2016-01-28 : 566,481 views10:39
tomreynM3t4ll1k0: https://github.com/johndoe31415/luksipc http://www.johannes-bauer.com/linux/luksipc/10:39
tomreynM3t4ll1k0: be sure you have recent restorable backups.10:39
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tomreynTuriya: what's the message you are trying to convey there?10:40
ptyttybonjour10:40
M3t4ll1k0is the "enctyp home folder" option in ubuntu as safe as lvm encryption?10:40
WildPenguinhello, I have a Bluetooth plug and play usb dongle for connecting laptops and pcs. Does it work on Lubuntu?10:40
M3t4ll1k0probably WildPenguin, have you tried?10:41
WildPenguinI need to make data transfer between my tablet and laptop.10:41
tomreynM3t4ll1k0: it's not full disk encryption. so it encrypts less, and leakig a little more.10:41
ptyttyM3t4ll1k0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome10:42
tomreynWildPenguin: the best way to find out is to give it a try. you can boot and use lubuntu from its installer.10:43
tomreyni.e. no need to install10:43
ptyttyM3t4ll1k0: (IMPORTANT); Also, it is strongly recommended that you encrypt your swap space. Users installing from Ubuntu 9.10 and selecting the Encrypted Home option will automatically have encrypted swap space. Other users can run sudo ecryptfs-setup-swap. This is critically important, because your home directory data will appear as cleartext in memory, as the kernel reads your encrypted data. If the10:43
ptyttykernel swaps this data to disk, it could potentially leak your decrypted data back to disk, totally defeating your Encrypted Home.10:43
WildPenguinI have Lubuntu 16.10 installed on my laptop.10:44
M3t4ll1k0tomreyn, and what leaks should I be concerned?10:44
Ben64WildPenguin: if you want to transfer data between computers, use ethernet10:44
M3t4ll1k0thanks for the advice ptytty10:44
M3t4ll1k0or a pendrive10:44
WildPenguinwhy? bluetooth can't be used?10:45
M3t4ll1k0with a usb-otg adapter for the tablet10:45
ptyttyWildPenguin: Bluetooth can be used limited Tx rate use cat6 cable10:45
WildPenguinI needed Bluetooth support also.10:45
M3t4ll1k0WildPenguin, it can be used (try it) i'm only saying a pen drive is more straight forward10:45
WildPenguinok.10:46
tomreynM3t4ll1k0: file sizes, and alteration dates / times, IIRc.10:46
rodolfoIs there anyone in this room who has an idea how I can disable or remove the mate-panel using Dconf 3.18.2?10:46
M3t4ll1k0no metadata leeking right?10:47
ptyttybut obviously WildPenguine needs wireless so im being a low functioning autistic10:47
M3t4ll1k0taking about bluetooth, is normal that when you use a smartphone as bluetooth modem the speed is ridiculous slow?10:48
M3t4ll1k0i mean 56k or so10:48
WildPenguinI think it doesn't support. I'm not able to pair the two devices.10:48
ptyttyWildPenguine: debug the authentication pairing see whats happening10:49
WildPenguinhow?10:50
tomreynM3t4ll1k0: this is a good overview http://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/1680/information-leakage-from-the-ecryptfs-filesystem10:51
M3t4ll1k0great thanks10:51
ptyttyWIldPenguin?: open terminal, ctrl+alt+t;10:52
Speirosalkisg Ben64 bazhang Thanks for your help.  It's working how I want it now:)10:52
ptyttycommand: WildPenguin: bluetoothctl10:53
WildPenguinok. what next.10:53
WildPenguinptytty, what next?10:54
ptyttyWildPenguine?: [bluetoothctl]# power on10:55
M3t4ll1k0tomreyn, also is normal that with home encryption to have files about 178GB in ~.ecryptfs10:55
ptyttyWildPenguine?: [bluetoothctl]# power on10:55
ptyttybutterfingers10:55
ptyttyWIldPenguine: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/bluetooth#Bluetoothctl10:55
tomreynM3t4ll1k0: as much as you had in your /home before the process would be expected10:56
alkisgSpeiros: np10:56
M3t4ll1k0that the problem its a new laptop and i have only downloaded 20g~ of movies10:56
ptyttyWildPenguin: there is a trouble shooting section @ page bottom.10:57
tomreynM3t4ll1k0: i don't know then, sorry.10:58
WildPenguinok.10:58
M3t4ll1k0i double checked tomreyn is esactly the same space used in home10:59
ptyttyM3t4ll1k0: ResizeEncryptedPartions; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions11:00
M3t4ll1k0thanks for helping me understand how home encryption works+11:00
ptyttyM3t4ll1k0: incase you have disk size problems you can resize, reduce or enlarge it.11:01
M3t4ll1k0ok thanks11:01
tomreynthat's only relevant when you have encrypted partitions, though, unrelated to ecryptfs11:02
royal_screwup21I'm looking for something to expedite my downloads on firefox. There's nothing wrong with the remote sever - I'm simply wondering if there's anything I can on my end (apart from increasing my internet speed, which isn't possible) to speed up some downloads. Any suggestions?11:25
royal_screwup21can do*11:26
cfhowlettroyal_screwup21, torrents, not downloads?11:26
royal_screwup21cfhowlett: Eh, I've just started using Linux, haven't downloaded a bittorrent client thus far11:26
cfhowlettpretty sure transmission is default royal_screwup21.  see if you have it.11:27
royal_screwup21cfhowlett: What transmission?11:27
cfhowlett!transmission | royal_screwup2111:27
cfhowletttransmission is the default torrent client on (most) *buntu11:28
royal_screwup21cfhowlett Oh, but I'm not using torrents. I'm just downloading some video files from a website11:29
royal_screwup21.mkv files specifically11:29
royal_screwup21but I think the download speed largely depends on my internet speed, so I'm not sure if there's anything I can do to expedite the process11:30
royal_screwup21cfhowlett Oh I just opened my transmission - I now get what you were saying11:31
royal_screwup21I'll try and figure out how to use it. Thanks cfhowlett!11:32
pahi11:33
pacan i automount only selected drives, in nautilus?11:33
theoceaniscoolpa, do you mean on boot?11:36
Ridahpa: check in /etc/fstab, the automounts11:36
pano i mean gvfs automount11:36
pait seems i can either enable it for every drive11:37
paor disable it for every drive11:37
pabut it doesn't let me say "i want to automount this drive only, when i plug it in"11:37
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Speirospa Sounds like the problem I just had:)11:38
theoceaniscoolpa, http://askubuntu.com/questions/56428/how-to-automount-a-gvfs-file-system-on-logon11:38
Cannellesalut11:38
Cannellehey11:38
SpeirosHi Cannelle :)11:38
Cannelleyou're english?11:38
Speirosoui11:39
SpeirosYes...11:39
Cannelleok, I'm French11:39
SpeirosWelcome.11:39
firasHi i just installed Ubuntu Mate11:39
cfhowlett!fr | Cannelle11:39
ubottuCannelle: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.11:39
firasHow can i setup auto login ? without asking for password ?11:39
firasi want it to boot directly to desktop11:40
cfhowlettfiras, make a new desktop user and set it to no password, autologin11:40
firasallright, ill give it a try11:42
firasthank you cfhowlett11:42
CannelleWhat do we do here apart from chatting11:42
theoceaniscoolCannelle, usually you ask for help11:42
Cannelleok, thank11:43
pahm..11:43
pait seems i have automount in gnome desktop media-handling already set to true11:43
pabut when i plug in the drive, it doesn't get automounted11:43
pai ahve to click on it in nautilus to get it mounted11:43
Cannellewhat's gnome?11:43
CannelleI never understood what it was.11:44
theoceaniscoolCannelle, A Desktop Environment11:44
cfhowlett!manual | Cannelle might be worth reading also see fcm11:45
ubottuCannelle might be worth reading also see fcm: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/11:45
cfhowlett!fcm | Cannelle11:45
ubottuCannelle: fcm is THE Ubuntu Community Magazine - find it at www.fullcirclemagazine.org, or #fullcirclemagazine11:45
theoceaniscoolpa, thats what automounting means, its going to get mounted automatically when (if) its needed11:46
CannelleHow is it "an environment"?11:46
patheoceaniscool, aha i see11:47
Cannellewhat?11:47
pabut okay, is it possible to mount it as soon as it's plugged, somehow?11:47
theoceaniscoolpa, I guess either executing manually the mount or doing an operation on it, but I don't know how exactly, sorry11:48
paah okay, thanks11:48
pai guess accessing it from bash doesn't work11:48
paprobably one has to use nautilus11:48
ohcibibullshit11:48
theoceaniscoolpa, Wait, that should work11:49
ohcibinautilus is just a gui that shows your file systems contents graphically11:49
paso if i do ls /media/myuser/mydrive, it should work?11:49
pai try11:49
theoceaniscoolpa, yes11:49
ohcibiit does not bring its "own fileystem" or anything like that.. it accesses the very same file system you have access to from your shell11:49
ohcibipa: yes.. you only need to know what the path to the mount point is, which the gui might hide from you initally11:50
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ohcibibut usually its a subdirectory of /media or /mnt11:50
darkkkisHi11:51
darkkkisI have problem with installign Ubuntu 16.10 on VMWare11:52
ohcibiautomount could be broken because of policy issues.. mounting requires root, so if you want to mount as a user, some tweaks have to be made to the system which might be broken  (but they shouldnt on a fresh system)11:52
darkkkisafter I install it and run it , I get " CPU has stopped by guest operation system ... " error11:52
bbq_hi11:54
theoceaniscooldarkkkis, Already reported bug: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/40299311:54
paohcibi, theoceaniscool, no actually it doesn't work11:54
ohcibipa: of course.. if its not mounted the directory in question is empty11:55
ohcibiand "accessing" the directory via the bash will most definitly not trigger the automount11:56
pawell so the question is: how to automount a drive using gvfs as soon as it's plugged?11:56
ohcibiidk.. i just made clear that your guess about the bash and the mounted drive (if mounted) was wrong11:57
paah okay11:57
theoceaniscoolpa, what about using systemd to execute the mount on boot?11:57
pawell, the drive might not get plugged on bood11:58
paboot11:58
theoceaniscoolpa, udev rules?11:58
paaha11:58
pathat might work11:58
ohcibiudev?11:58
theoceaniscoolpa, but I don't know if those get triggered on boot11:58
ohcibiwhy not use systemd directly11:58
ohcibiwith an automount unit11:58
ohcibihttps://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.automount.html11:59
ohcibipa: does the drive automounts on a fresh ubuntu?11:59
paohcibi, well i can see it in nautilus, but until i click on the drive, i don't get the "eject" icon11:59
paso i guess it depends on the "automount" definition11:59
ohcibino12:00
theoceaniscoolpa, that means nautilus is mounting it itself, so its not an automount12:00
ohcibiif its visible in nautilus without the eject button its not mounted but only available12:00
paok12:00
ohcibii.e. pugged in12:00
ohcibiplugged12:00
pathen it seems not12:00
ohcibithe question was12:00
ohcibidoes that happen on a fresh system?12:00
pamine  is pretty fresh12:00
ohcibii.e. not the one you are working with but one that got freshly instaled with no additional software12:00
pai can try12:00
ohcibiwell pretty fresh isn't fresh, isn't it?12:00
palike with a live12:00
ohcibiyea12:01
theoceaniscoolohcibi, AFAIK, thats the default configuration12:01
ohcibiif it mounts on a livestick, i'd rather fix my system instead of trying self brewn solutions12:01
ohcibitheoceaniscool: to not automount?12:01
theoceaniscoolohcibi, Yes12:01
ohcibiwe have 2 worksations with xubuntu 16.10 and they both automount12:01
paim on 16.04 btw12:02
theoceaniscoolohcibi, with ubuntu (at least in my experience), it doesn't12:02
pai checked with dconf-editor and the automount is set to true12:02
pabut it doesn't work12:02
ohcibiit seems that the bevhiour is different for ubuntu vs xubuntu12:03
ohcibihttps://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Automount/12:03
ohcibiidk if there is an english version12:03
ohcibibut it explains how to enable automount for gnome/unity12:04
ohcibion ubuntu12:04
BluesKajHi folks12:04
SpeirosHi there BluesKaj:)12:09
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pasolved12:26
paso it seems ubuntu does automount12:26
paonly in unity12:26
pain plasma there is its own (much more granular) automount settings12:26
pawhich are off by default12:27
k1lubuntu uses nautilus filebrowser and gvfs for automount. if you use kde i dont know if they use those gnome projects.12:28
schtiehveTrying to install Ubuntu on a 32bit EFI system getting the errror "Failed to install grub-efi-ia32 to /target/" anybody got an idea what to do?12:33
royal_screwup21I have a .zip folder and want to extract some files out of it through the command line. How do I do that?12:37
hateballroyal_screwup21: man unzip12:38
royal_screwup21Cool, thanks hateball!12:40
royal_screwup21I have a folder named "The abcdefgh". After typing in "The " (along with the space) and pressing TAB, my desired folder doesn't show up. How do I remedy this?12:42
Ben64royal_screwup21: you need to escape the space, do "The\ <TAB>"12:43
Ntemishi12:44
Ntemisi have some issues with ttf-mscorefonts-installer12:44
Ntemisany resulution?12:44
Ntemisresolution12:44
royal_screwup21Ben65 so: "The\ abc<TAB>"12:46
royal_screwup21Ben64*12:46
Ben64if you like12:46
k1lNtemis: what issue12:47
royal_screwup21Ben64 it's still not showing up. :/ (the folder is question is a .zip if that matters at all)12:47
royal_screwup21in*12:47
Ntemisk1l: package cant download andale32.exe missing12:48
Ben64royal_screwup21: folders can't be a zip file12:48
k1lroyal_screwup21: a folder cant be in zip format. that is not a folder, its a zip package then12:48
k1lroyal_screwup21: so you need to extract it first with the unzip tool.12:48
royal_screwup21k1l: Oh, okay, thanks!12:49
birneHi people. Is it possible to make a hotkey for several commands in a row? At "keyboard" on xubuntu 16.04 I got for example "Alt+Y" for "exo-open --launch WebBrowser". Can I make several commands in a row for ONE shortcut? It doesn't work with a , or ;12:50
schtiehvebirne: you could write a script an then just assign the hotkey to launching the script12:52
birneschtiehve: thank you. that seems to be a pretty cool solution. Could you help me a bit with this please?12:57
birnemy first command is "xdotool mousemove xy xy", then, as the second command: "xdotool click 1"12:58
royal_screwup21I have this folder in my downloads: "the xyz [720p]". Inside this is the mp4 file (the movie). How do I extract the movie from folder through the terminal?12:58
Ben64birne: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-2.html12:58
birneBen64: ty! =)12:59
n1lqjneed help with Ubuntu server, I normally run debian12:59
n1lqjmy path is backwards and does not match /etc/environment path, completely different13:00
Ben64n1lqj: what's the actual issue13:01
k1lNtemis: can you show the full error on paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here?13:01
Ntemissure13:02
n1lqjI placed updated personal binary in /usr/local/bin and system binary in /usr/bin is running in lieu of because path is backwards13:02
Ntemisk1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23770211/13:03
k1lNtemis: ubuntu 16.04?13:03
birneAre there certain commands for "ctrl a", "ctrl x" and "ctrl v" on ubuntu? For example ctrl v   is a part of my script but I don't know the command behind it13:04
Ntemisyeap13:04
Ben64n1lqj: should be putting personal binaries in ~/bin13:04
n1lqjNo, this is a system wide implementation13:04
Ben64birne: ctrl a, ctrl x, and ctrl v13:04
birnethese are the shortcuts, but I meant the commands for it13:05
Ben64n1lqj: sounds like you're doing something funky13:05
Ben64birne: that doesn't make sense13:05
HerbalistSelect All, Cut, Paste13:05
n1lqjI patched ssh utilities to include no encryption, but don't want to replace rest of ssh package in aptitude13:06
Ben64yep, funky13:06
birnelook: there is a field I go to with "xdotool mousemove 1800 500", then I click into the window with "xdotool click 1", and then I want to paste a new text into this window with the command for ctrl v13:07
n1lqjsorry closed window.  Yeah, I am working in a jursidiction where encryption is illegal13:07
birnebut I don't know the command :/13:07
Ben64birne: it's ctrl v13:07
Ben64there is no command13:07
birneokay13:07
birnethanks13:07
birnecan I use ctrl v in the script? in a new line then "ctrl v"?13:08
k1lNtemis: seems like the redirect of sourceforce is the issue.13:08
Ben64birne: i'm probably going to regret this, but why are you using xdotool to do this weird stuff13:08
Herbalistlookup the commands in your scripting language13:09
Ntemisyes but i compile from source and system reports me i dont have freetype 2 :)13:09
n1lqjso my question is where is path set prior to profile.d?13:09
birnefor binary options in order to "put" and "call" via shortcuts, because it's more comfortable13:09
k1lNtemis: "wget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/m/msttcorefonts/ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.6_all.deb -P ~/Downloads"13:09
k1lNtemis: and then: "sudo apt install ~/Downloads/ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.6_all.deb"13:10
Ben64n1lqj: i can't reproduce what you're saying, check ~/.profile13:10
WACOMalt_Hi everyone. I'm on Ubuntu server 14.04 LTS and I'm trying to install openvpn and easyrsa. I'm getting an error I'm not sure how to solve. http://pastie.org/pastes/10988785/text unmet dependencies.13:10
n1lqjI did .profile PATH=$PATH:/....  so it is upstream from there.  The path is literally backwards, but root is okay and matches correct order in /etc/envi*13:11
Ntemisk1l: ty13:11
n1lqjI'm greping etc for path= and searching for it13:11
Ntemisi used dpkg13:11
Ben64n1lqj: just fix it in .profile ?13:11
BluesKajWACOMalt_, that url doesm't resolve here13:12
Ben64birne: man xdotool13:13
birneSorry what do you mean?13:13
Ben64birne: teaches you how to use xdotool13:13
n1lqjI guess I could just seems like a bandaid, I was wondering what was actually wrong13:13
birnea okay13:13
birnethanks!13:13
Ben64n1lqj: what you're describing isn't happening on any of my systems so i'm guessing it's something non-standard13:14
n1lqjDigital Ocean Ubuntu Server13:15
n1lqjlol13:15
Ben64yep, non standard13:15
n1lqjI'm finding wierdness with DO's implementations13:16
n1lqjin general13:16
n1lqjthey run their own repo's for ubuntu13:16
Ben64that's pretty normal13:17
Ben64saves tons of bw13:17
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zamanfI wonder what's the best way to encrypt an external usb disk with strong algorithms like SHA51213:28
JP___Best way to make your data 100% sure is to throw your hard drive into the fiery lava of mordor13:29
JP___:)13:29
zamanfThis is what I usually do - what if I am not around Mordor?13:30
JP___Lol, i am actually also interrested in the awnser.... Cause i don't know yet13:31
n1lqjzamanf I would put it on vfat32 and make a single large file mount it as a loop device and go that route13:31
n1lqjthat way, you can always move encrypted image to another drive from any machine13:31
zamanfthis is quite smart I have to say13:32
JP___I actually want a program/code that can wipe my harddrive when someone tries to log in13:32
JP___Lemme google first13:32
zamanfn1lqj, any guides?13:32
n1lqjdd if=/dev/zero of=upload_test bs=file_size count=113:33
n1lqjmakes blank file size of HD image13:34
n1lqjup_test would be name of image.img13:35
n1lqjthen you can run mkfs.whatever on image.img13:36
zamanfn1lqj, I appreciate your input - but I am looking for a detailed way to do it - since I am not very familiar with this technique I will like some details to explain few things13:37
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n1lqjI have done it but not with encryption13:38
ioriazamanf, you want to erase or encrypt  a removable device ?13:38
n1lqjin short, make blank file, mount it, format it, and then I assume encrypt it13:38
zamanfyou are creating a big file and mounting this file as a filesystem13:39
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zamanfI want to encrypt13:39
ioriazamanf,  use Disks (gnome-disks)13:39
ioriazamanf,  or for details https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage13:39
zamanfioria, I am looking for SHA512 encryption13:40
n1lqjioria, encrypt it.  He wants to encrypt removable HD, I suggested format fvat32 and make large volume and mount image so he can always move encrypted file to another hd from any machine13:40
n1lqjincase of drive trouble13:40
n1lqjor wanting to back it up13:40
tim_Use truescrypt13:59
tim_VeraCrypt (but I'm pretty sure its maintained by the NSA so you are better off with the older version of truescrypt 7.1a14:00
Southern_Gentlemtim prove it14:03
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HexaChopHello everyone! I am back!14:05
cookie4700wb14:06
HexaChopSpeiros, you there?14:06
tatertotsHexaChop: make any progress?14:06
HexaChopioria, you there/14:06
HexaChoptatertors, drivers are installed now, but I get no login screen while booting neither any loading screen...14:07
HexaChoptatertots, drivers are installed now, but I get no login screen while booting neither any loading screen...14:07
k1lHexaChop: what driver is installed? war there some error? what kernel parameter is in use now?14:08
tatertotsHexaChop: what kind of screen do you get?14:08
HexaChoptatertots, I got a CD pack (DVD-R) for installing OS's.14:08
HexaChopk1l, NVIDIA drivers. What kernel parameter?14:08
k1lHexaChop: which exactly. details matter a lot14:09
HexaChopk1l what is a parameter you are talking about, mate?14:09
k1lHexaChop: the parameters you start your kernel with. like nomodeset etc.14:09
blackflowHello. Is it possible to confine process running inside LXD containers, with AppArmor? I'm reading conflicting information about it... anyone doing it successfully?14:09
HexaChopk1l I did use nouveau.modeset 0, but it got reset, because it was one-time-boot thing. Right now I booted normally using GRUB, because I have Windows installed, too.14:10
k1lHexaChop: the kernel modes are not related to using dualboot.14:10
HexaChopk1l, I know, but just saying. I was not changing anything this time round. Windows and Linux are in their respective HDDs/SSDs.14:11
k1lHexaChop: its very important for solving your issues to know which kernel modes were used when you boot the ubuntu and what happens. so if you change something there you might get a different result. if you dont tell us, we can only guess what happend to get that result. maybe its the wrong conclusion making more mess then14:12
HexaChopk1l, I changed nothing, I didn't use E this time. I did boot earlier using E, but not this time round. I just instead of quiet spash added nouveau.modeset=0.14:13
k1land you could not login because you just saw a black screen?14:14
tatertotsHexaChop: so can you access a virtual console/virtual terminal when you boot linux?14:14
k1lcan you boot a live-usb and get us the xorg.log and dmesg file from the /var/log/ folder from that harddrive where ubuntu is installed?14:15
HexaChopk1l, instead of seeing black screen, I see purple screen andwithout authentication it puts me straight into Linux desktop.14:15
tatertotsHexaChop: doesn't sound like you have a very usable linux installation otherwise14:15
HexaChopk1l, I am in ubuntu right now.14:15
k1lHexaChop: ok, i thought you could not boot ubuntu at all.14:16
k1lHexaChop: so you got autologin enabled?14:16
HexaChoptatertots, I was afraid you might say that, that is why I got a pack of DVD-Rs.14:16
HexaChopk1l, yep, but for some reason I do not get booting loading screen...14:16
k1lHexaChop: as i said the last days: some video card drivers have issue and cant show the booting screen.14:17
hateballHexaChop: because nvidia drivers doesnt support KMS14:17
hateballwell, they kind of do with the latest ones, you can grab them from PPA14:17
k1lHexaChop: but when the system works i would not mind that and start to fiddle with it and make again a mess out of my system14:17
hateballbut you still need to add a kernel parameter to explicitly use KMS. even then it doesnt have high resolution support14:18
BluesKajDKMS works fine with nvidia14:18
tatertotsHexaChop: and you haven't installed inxi yet to make for less repeated requests for information?14:18
hateballBluesKaj: DKMS and KMS are not the same thing tho :)14:18
BluesKajyes but DKMS is what really counts hateball14:19
HexaChoptatertors inxi?14:20
HexaChoptatertots, inxi? **14:20
HexaChopk1l, hateball, I did run ubuntu on previous system with NVIDIA card and everything worked fine, so I doubt that that is the problem.14:22
BluesKajHexaChop, have you tried a complete reinstall? ...seems you've had nothing but problems for 3 days now14:22
tatertotsHexaChop: yeah, i notice how often you're asked questions that either get no answer at all because you don't have the information or a vague answer at best14:23
HexaChoptatertots, I have a feeling you're pissed at me.14:24
k1lHexaChop: this exact hardware? thought you said it was a new pc14:24
HexaChopk1l, It is a new PC but I am not a first-time ubuntu user.14:25
k1lHexaChop: so i dont see why you compare the old hardware with the new one, when i already said this issue of not having a proper loading screen is related to specific video cards and video drivers.14:26
HexaChopk1l, hmm, so... new GPUs are unable to handle Ubuntu? Hmm, weird...14:27
k1lHexaChop: its about the driver support for that specific cards.14:27
k1lHexaChop: and that is not a ubuntu issue, since other distributions use the same drivers.14:28
HexaChopk1l, I think 2x 1070 has all the support it needs, no?14:28
SatieHey guys, can anyone help me? I've forgot my BIOS password. It's a Inspirion 1414:28
k1lHexaChop: and honestly: if showing a loading screen is your only issue, i think this goes fairly well :)14:28
k1lHexaChop: no14:28
SatieAlready tried to remove the BIOS battery14:28
BluesKajHexaChop, how about running a lspci in the terminal and pastebinning the noutput , so we can all see what you have hardware-wise14:28
k1lSatie: talk to dell for how to manage that. maybe they have master passwords14:29
SatieAlready tried14:29
SatieThey don't want to help me14:29
cfhowlettSatie, ask #hardware. this falls way outside of ubuntu support. also see the OEM sits14:29
SatieThe only option is to change my motherboard spending 2k14:29
SatieRofl14:29
SatieThank you, I'll try14:29
HexaChopBluesKaj, sure, mate. k1l, you think it is going well? :)14:31
HexaChopBluesKaj, k1l, http://termbin.com/gxll14:31
HexaChopioria, you there? :)14:32
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pavlosHexaChop, regarding inxi, you can "apt install inxi" and it provides h/w info similar to lshw14:36
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BluesKajHexaChop, which nvidia driver did you install?14:36
dangdang14:37
HexaChopBluesKaj, how can I check, I don't really remember.14:37
hateballHexaChop: open up nvidia-settings, it's on the first page14:38
HexaChophateball, OK, thanks. :)14:38
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HexaChopBluesKaj, hateball, 375.2614:39
HexaChop!ping14:39
ubottupong!14:39
BluesKajHexaChop, so you do have a desktop...why did I think you didn't have one14:39
HexaChopBluesKaj, IDK, what did you thought I had? :D14:40
BluesKaj?14:40
BluesKaja TTY/VT and irssi as your irc client14:40
HexaChopBluesKaj, what are thooose?14:41
BluesKajok NM HexaChop ..you seem to be running ubuntu just fine now14:41
BluesKaj!irssi | HexaChop14:42
ubottuHexaChop: irssi is a terminal based IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help. See also !screen14:42
dangor?14:42
BluesKaj!VT14:42
ingivehow can i improve chromium performance?14:42
HexaChopBluesKaj, KK, thanks, but what is TTY/VT?14:42
dangor?14:42
cfhowlettingive, ask #mozilla14:42
ingivemozilla?14:43
cfhowlettdangor, this is ubuntu support.  Ms. Cleo is dead, so you have to actually ask your question to get answers14:43
cfhowlettingive, sorry, channeling firefox.  ask #google14:43
GigitalHow do I burn an ISO in Ubuntu 16.04? I don't see "Write to Disc" when I right click on the ISO I want to burn/14:44
ingivewell ubuntu is probably highly relevant when it comes to application performance?14:44
cfhowlett!usb | Gigital14:44
ubottuGigital: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent14:44
BluesKajvirtual terminal aka TTY ,  ctl+alt +F1-F6, check it out inj a serch, HexaChop, since there' no infobot for it14:44
Gigitalubottu, not relevant to what I am asking.14:44
ubottuGigital: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:44
cfhowlettingive, errr no. ubuntu is the OS. you asked about a specific app - an app made by google so ....14:44
HexaChopioria seems very AFK14:45
pavlosHexaChop, tty virtual terminals (c-s-F1 up to F6) ... your gui is at c-s-F714:45
ingiveok, how do i optimize ubuntu to increase application performance?14:45
cfhowlettGigital, you asked how to make a bootable Ubuntu USB - exactly what that link describes14:45
HexaChoppavlos, you just talked pure gibberish to me. :(14:45
GigitalI didn't14:45
HexaChopubottu, are you smart?14:45
ubottuHexaChop: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:45
GigitalI want to burn an ISO to DVD14:46
HexaChop!ping14:46
ubottupong!14:46
cfhowlettingive, turn off screen effects for starters, close browser tabs14:46
ingivei'm running XFCE right now don't think there are screen effects and i am testing with 1-2 tabs14:46
cfhowlettingive, also on xfce. what are your hardware specifications?14:47
GigitalCan I do that out of the box or do I need to install third party software for that?14:47
ingivei think it has something to do with my driver, on another hdd i installed ubuntu and performance is worse there14:47
HexaChopk1l, I can't boot ubuntu with CD-Drive plugged in...14:47
GigitalI want to burn an ISO14:47
FiraHey guys... I installed Ubuntu 16.04 Xenial on a fresh laptop, linked it to AD with sssd/adcli/samba/krb5, apt-get upgrade'd... but gdm3 won't launch, and when i login into gnome from lightdm, it just crashes and i get a bunch of SIGTRAP/SIGSEGVs in dmesg. I'm confused...14:48
pavlosHexaChop, c-s-F1 is control shift F114:48
FiraAny advice ._. ?14:48
HexaChoppavlos, does nothing.14:48
Firait's ctrl-alt-F114:49
Firanot ctrl-shift-F114:49
Gigitalcan someone help me please?14:49
cfhowlett!patience | Gigital14:49
ubottuGigital: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/14:49
BluesKajpavlos,ctl+alt+F1-F614:49
BluesKajnot shift14:49
ptyttya;t+f1-f614:50
ptyttyalt+f1-f614:50
pavlosHexaChop, BluesKaj is right, sorry14:50
Firacool, crashes are different on local users and domain users... ugh. what's going on ._.14:51
BluesKajptytty, stop that14:51
kaladinHello everyone14:51
kaladinSo I am thinking of giving up my new laptop Acer Swift 314:51
kaladinand getting one that will run Ubuntu basically without the crazy struggle I have been going through14:51
kaladinDoes anyone know of any metal finish laptops that I can run Ubuntu on non-mac?14:51
ptyttyBluesKaj14:52
ptyttywhat did i do14:52
BluesKajwrong key commands14:52
cfhowlettkaladin, ask #hardware or #ubuntu-offtopic - not the support channel. thank you and good luck.14:52
tatertotsFira: does logging in with a local account result in crash also?14:52
ptyttynice catch14:52
srulikaladin: many, i use asus ux303u among others, but thats a nice metal finish (good spec, doesnt come cheap though)14:52
ptyttyshow him where the pool is14:52
HexaChopIt just popped in blue faded stripes at the top and that's it., BluesKaj14:53
WildPenguinguys, which is the fastest and least cpu hungry web browser suitable for Lubuntu?14:53
tatertotsFira: and the symptom occurs also with the machine removed from the realm?14:53
HexaChopBluesKaj, were you trying to cause harm, mate?14:53
Firatatertots: well it launches, there's no SIGSEGV, but there's a brief error about not being able to write to $HOME and14:53
cfhowlettWildPenguin, probably the very same that comes with lubuntu14:53
Fira.....14:53
Firawhy are there things owned by root in ~sysadmin14:53
Fira._.14:53
WildPenguincfhowlett, Firefox?14:53
ptyttyWildPenguine: build it14:53
cfhowlettWildPenguin, you're on lubuntu - look for yourself14:54
Firatatertots: i'll try kicking it out of realm and get that working before joining back i guess14:54
BluesKajHexaChop, I have no idea what you mean14:54
WildPenguinI am having some problem with Firefox.14:54
tatertotsFira: open terminal14:54
HexaChopBluesKaj, I throwed me some blue lines that were fading and PC froze...14:54
kaladinsruli: Thank you, did you have any difficulties installing?  I couldn't find anything non-certified without them being dell basically14:54
tatertotsFira: realm list|nc termbin.com 999914:54
WildPenguinJust two or three tabs open and already the cpu usage has shot up to 100%14:54
cfhowlett!browser | WildPenguin14:54
ubottuWildPenguin: Some of the Web Browsers in Ubuntu's repositories include: Firefox (XUL, Gecko), Rekonq (KDE, WebKit), Konqueror (KDE, KHTML/WebKit), Chromium (GTK+, WebKit), Epiphany(GTK+, WebKit), Arora (Qt/KDE, WebKit), Midori (GTK+, WebKit), w3m (terminal-based), links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !manpage), edbrowse (terminal-based). Along with many others.14:54
HexaChopblueskaj, it throwed me*14:55
BluesKajHexaChop,what throwed you as you put it?14:55
WildPenguinis chromium lighter than Firefox?14:55
dangorhow to install ubuntu-tweak ?14:55
srulikaladin: no problems installing...14:55
cfhowlettdangor, sudo apt install ubuntu-tweak14:55
WildPenguinI feel like throwing away my laptop, when I am browsing. Even on Lubuntu.14:56
HexaChopBluesKaj, I hit ALT + CTRL + F1 and then a glitchy line appeared that caused my PC to freeze.14:56
cfhowlettWildPenguin, some say so14:56
ptyttyWildPenguine: uninstall reinstall backup all needed bookmarks data cache et al.14:56
WildPenguinptytty, what do I need to reinstall?14:56
kaladinsruli: it looks really nice, saw some yogabooks and such as long as it is stable I think I may look into it14:56
ptyttyfirefox if you have a problem that you cant trace yourself14:57
Gigitalthanks for your help folks, NOT14:57
merlinohow to save a ipset file on ubuntu, ipset save > file.txt after reboot the file is lost14:58
BluesKajHexaChop, that coomand should give a virtual terminal login prompt , if you know what that means14:58
WildPenguinptytty, I installed Lubuntu just a few days back.14:58
srulikaladin: its not on the certified list works a treat, if you want certified https://certification.ubuntu.com/desktop/14:58
pavlosdangor, which ubuntu release?14:58
BluesKajHexaChop, perhaps a little study about linux commands and terminals is required on your part14:59
ptyttyWildPenguin: ps -eLf | grep14:59
WildPenguinptytty, what is that?14:59
ptyttyopen terminal: man ps 115:00
HexaChopBluesKaj, it gave me NOTHING, just a glitchy screen and a freeze.15:00
blackFira Maybe something owned by root, but you are users15:00
dangorUbuntu 16.0415:01
HexaChopBluesKaj, some sort of weird glitch, maybe I should re-install since now I have CDs for that but I can't run ubuntu with CD-ROM plugged in...15:01
BluesKajHexaChop, then try the command with F2 instead15:01
dangorsudo apt install ubuntu-tweak don`t work15:01
ptyttyHexaChop: ctrl+alt+F1-F6 F7 closes the tty15:01
WildPenguinwill install chromium and try.15:01
AnxController,3+15:01
pavlosdangor, see this page http://askubuntu.com/questions/75454/how-do-i-install-ubuntu-tweak, a reply marked 8 adds a ppa, update, then install15:02
merlinoanyone here got ipset set up on ubuntu15:02
HexaChopptytty, what do you mean? could you please explain?15:02
ptyttyHexaChop: it opens a virtual tty you 6 of the CTRL+ALT+F1 to F6 open tty1-tty6 ctrl_alt_F7 closes the current tty. does it crash or what is happening it could be a grub issue15:04
HexaChopptytty it worked! thanks!15:06
ptyttykewl15:06
HexaChopBluesKaj, what you told me to do, mate?15:06
BluesKajHexaChop, nevermind I'm done15:07
ptyttythe "man" command gives you the manual15:08
HexaChopBluesKaj, OK then, I am sorry to see you go but of course you choose to help or not...15:08
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ptyttyHexaChop: need any more help15:10
HexaChopptytty, what am I supposed to do with that manual? BluesKaj just quit, I am at a loss, I am a Windows guy. I am willing to learn about linux but I can see how that could be impossible...15:10
ptyttyHexaChop: http://www.tldp.org/ The Linux Documentation Project15:11
ptyttyHexaChop: the "man" command give you the manual pages for indivual commands.15:12
dangorI see this page http://askubuntu.com/questions/75454/how-do-i-install-ubuntu-tweak15:12
merlinojust stock here with a ubuntu server, ubuntu just runs its own way15:12
dangorit isn`t work15:12
cfhowlettdangor, 6 year old instructions - things change15:13
HexaChopWhy people has no patience these days....15:13
merlinoipset save banthis -f banthis.txt should save the ipset file but not on ubuntu15:13
HexaChopcfhowlett, maybe you could help?15:13
ptyttycfhowlett: the tldp.org?15:14
cfhowlettptytty, ?  I did not suggest that nor did I offer any input on your situation.15:15
merlinocan not find anything on how to save a ipset file on ubuntu.... just not very sexy ubuntu15:15
ptyttycfhowlett: i got confused15:16
HexaChopcfhhowlett, I need help with ubuntu boot loading screen not showing up.15:16
ptyttyHexaChop: GRUB15:16
HexaChopptytty, what about it?15:16
ptyttyHexaChop: anything like this, http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it15:17
HexaChopptytty, no, I get purple screen and put straight into linux desktop.15:18
merlinoHexaChop why not try with Manjaro15:18
HexaChopmerlino, with what?15:18
merlinoManjaro Linux15:18
ptyttyHexaChop: and you dont have a username password to login?15:18
cfhowlettmerlino, suggesting other OS's is fairly troll behavior.  stop it.15:18
merlinosure more happy then with ubi...15:18
MenzadorHexaChop: Did you try hitting the ESC key when you saw the "purple screen"?15:19
merlinoi know.... but there is no way other then this15:19
cfhowlettHexaChop, do you have to enter a password?15:19
ptyttycpu booting super fast looks like it skips boot screen but doesnt need to wait?15:20
HexaChopcfhowlett, ptytty, when booting up, no, because I have auto-login enabled.15:20
ptyttyanyone else think its that15:20
cfhowlettHexaChop, right. so turn that off15:20
ptyttyso all your not seeing is the buntu logo et, al15:20
HexaChopmenzador, ptytty, cfhowlett, I can upload a pic I have when it does load the loading screen rarely.15:21
HexaChopmenzador, ptytty, cfhowlett, It loads halfway too...15:21
MenzadorHexaChop: Go ahead and drop it in Imgur and we'll look at it15:22
ptyttyHexaChop: add bash forkbomm at starup & remove ulimits15:22
ptyttyyou will probably see your splash screen15:22
Menzador^ Not necessarily.15:22
MenzadorPlymouth (the splash screen) doesn't always display correctly or at all, depending on your GPU.15:22
HexaChopMenzador, imgur is not uploading for me...15:23
ptyttyHexaChop: your having a bad time15:23
HexaChopptytty where to add what (sorry for being tedious and annoying, I am absolute raw-green on linux...15:24
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ptyttyHexaChop: Menzador could be correct15:24
FilipNortic_Never liked splash screens, always rather see if there is anayhing wrong at boot by looking at the boot up procs15:24
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ptyttyif you did what i said you cpu probs wouldnt boot past a certain point15:25
ptyttyremove plymouth and get post & boot procs15:25
HexaChopptytty, where to add bashj forkbomm?15:26
HexaChopptytty, how to remove it?15:26
ptyttyHexaChop: LuLz15:27
ptyttyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth15:27
cfhowlettptytty, remove plymouth?!  no that is NOT a solution.15:28
ptyttyif you need info on x11 as its on that page try (man x) on cli15:28
ptyttyHUH WHYY15:28
ptytty:p15:28
cfhowlettand did you actually suggest using a forkbomb?!15:29
ptyttycfhowlett: who me?15:29
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HexaChopcfhowlett is wanting to ruin my system15:30
HexaChopcfhowlett ?15:31
cfhowlettHexaChop, I didn't tell you to forkbomm.15:31
ptyttyHexaChop: yeah it was cfhowlett15:31
ptyttycfhowlett: why you know what that would do15:32
HexaChopcfhowlett, no, is ptytty trying to ruin my system?15:32
cfhowlettHexaChop, he is15:32
ptyttyno i was joking guys15:32
cfhowlett!ops | ptytty forkbomb suggestions15:32
ubottuptytty forkbomb suggestions: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu15:32
HexaChopcfhowlett, report him please?15:32
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cfhowlettptytty, you are not funny and your behavior violates channel guidelines.  STOP immediately or leave15:33
tzfrsHi guys. Do you know of problems regarding Ubuntu 16.04 and Thunderbolt 3/USB-C?15:33
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ptyttyso i cant say forkbomb15:33
cfhowlettHexaChop, you're on 16.04?15:33
tzfrsI can't connect my notebook with a monitor, and someone told me, that it is because Ubuntu doesn't support USB Type C/Thunderbolt 315:33
HexaChopcfhowlett, ptytty...he wanted to absolutely destroy me, didn't he? Thanks for warning me, VERY highly appreciated :))) No, 16.1015:33
cfhowlettHexaChop, also in your irc client do /ignore nickname15:33
cfhowlettHexaChop, wait 1 - checking something15:34
anon97218Hola15:34
cfhowlett!es ] anon9721815:34
ubottucfhowlett: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:34
HexaChopcfhowlett, ok.15:34
cfhowlettHexaChop, have you edited your grub settings at all?15:35
HexaChopcfhowlett, no, only did update-grub.15:35
HexaChopman, ptytty should be reported so he wouldn't do any harm to anyone else...15:36
rkjiitHello, I installed ubuntu on my laptop. Afterwards i opened windows. But now when I power up my laptop the grub is not coming15:36
cfhowlett HexaChop already reported to !ops15:36
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cfhowlettHexaChop, Edit the file /etc/default/grub as root (or with sudo) and set the GRUB_TIMEOUT variable to whatever you want.15:37
HexaChopcfhowlett, reason for that, mate?15:37
cfhowlettHexaChop, timeout = zero means you don't see grub15:38
HexaChopcfhowlett Oh I see it on boot of the PC15:38
HexaChopPici, who are you?15:39
cfhowlettHexaChop, then I must have confused the issue as I thought you were complaining of the opposite.  restate the problem.15:39
PiciHexaChop: I'm me.15:39
PiciHexaChop: also an operator/moderator of #ubuntu15:39
Piciptytty: see your pm15:40
HexaChopcfhowlett, I see no loading screen when booting into ubuntu.15:40
cfhowlettHexaChop, confirm: you see grub, choose ubuntu, NO ubuntu loading screeen but it boots?15:40
Piciptytty: then please join #ubuntu-ops15:40
HexaChopPici, could you please take a look at ptytty activity and confirm that he wanted to cause harm by suggesting forkbomb ant other harmful stuff?15:41
HexaChopcfhowlett, correct.15:41
PiciHexaChop: They're currently muted here, and yes, I'm trying to speak with them about it.15:41
BluesKajto see grub hold the left shift key down right after the manufacturers Logo page/post15:41
HexaChopPici, thank you a bunch ^^ Very friendly staff here. ^^ :)15:42
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HexaChopBluesKaj, I get the GRUB screen just no ubuntu booting logo. just throws me right into the desktop after a good minute or two.15:43
cfhowlettHexaChop, by any chance do you have an nvidia gpu card?15:43
ledeniHexaChop, did you install nvidia drivers for your system?15:43
HexaChopcfhowlett, 2x NVIDIA ASUS STRIX 1070 GPUs.15:43
cfhowlettHexaChop, seems to be relevant: http://askubuntu.com/questions/362722/how-to-fix-plymouth-splash-screen-in-all-ubuntu-releases15:44
M3t4ll1k0hello15:44
M3t4ll1k0how can I check that my swap partition is encrypted?15:44
HexaChopcfhowlett, seems complicated...15:44
cfhowlettHexaChop, how bad do you want to see pretty boot pictures?15:45
HexaChopledeni, Hi, mate! :) 2x NVIDIA ASUS STRIX 1070 GPUs.15:45
ledeniHexaChop, i know did you install drivers for nvidia15:46
HexaChopcfhowlett, it is to confirm that ubuntu is loading and yup, I love aesthetics.15:46
HexaChopledeni, yep.15:46
ledeniHexaChop,witch one15:46
HexaChop!info v86d15:47
ubottuv86d (source: v86d): daemon to run x86 code in an emulated environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.10-1 (yakkety), package size 11 kB, installed size 100 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)15:47
HexaChopledeni, seems to be the very latest one.15:47
ledeniHexaChop, what is now problem?15:48
HexaChopledeni, cfhowlett, could you tell him?15:48
HexaChopledeni, cfhowlett, could you tell him? and what happened to you?15:49
HexaChopcfhowlett, tell ledeni what is the issue, mate, I am kinda bussy figuring stuff out.15:50
cfhowlettHexaChop, rebooted so I guess I missed some excitement?15:50
HexaChopcfhowlett, not really, but ledeni wants an update on my situation.15:51
cfhowlettHexaChop, I was away so ...15:51
cfhowlettledeni, he reported no plymouth boot screen but normal boot.  I guessed it was an nvidia/grub issue, as I think you also suspected and give him a link to fix it at the grub level15:52
ledenicfhowlett, thanks15:52
mcphailYou don't get a boot screen on non-kernel modesetting drivers, though, do you?15:53
BluesKajcfhowlett, think a user gave him a command that disabled plymouth, not absolutely sure15:53
cfhowlettBluesKaj, that would also cause what he's seeing.  not sure how to proceed to a fix though15:53
cfhowletthow do we revert silencing plymouth15:54
k1lBluesKaj: yes, i asked that several times, but didnt get a proper information on that.15:54
k1lHexaChop: can you show the output url of "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999" in here please?15:54
HexaChopk1l, sure, mate :)15:54
k1ldmesg should list the used kernel parameters at the top15:55
HexaChopk1l, update-grub causes error window to pop up.15:56
HexaChopk1l and your info on the command here: http://termbin.com/mz4r15:56
k1lHexaChop: then put those commands and error outputs into paste.ubuntu.com and show them here too15:56
k1lkernel modes are quiet and splash. so its not set off on that side15:57
cfhowlett4th line segfault and error 4?15:57
k1lok, he is using vt.handoff=7, so i guess that is the cause.15:58
HexaChopk1l, cfhowlett, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23770861/16:00
cfhowlettreport the error but it is not shown here16:01
k1lHexaChop: the warning from update-grub is just a warning, not a error.16:02
HexaChopk1l, cfhowlett, these errors started happening after following instructions on here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/362722/how-to-fix-plymouth-splash-screen-in-all-ubuntu-releases16:02
HexaChopk1l best choice might be re-installing. I have a CD ready but how to make CD-ROM Ubuntu compatible?16:02
cfhowlettHexaChop, silly to ask but ... did you follow those instructions exactly?16:02
k1lHexaChop: no. why reinstall?16:02
cfhowlettslow your role, son.  reinstalling is windows solution!16:03
HexaChopcfhowlett, changed screen resolution, that's all (to my own).16:03
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HexaChopk1l that user before has caused my system to do all kinds of weird stuff...16:03
sanjebHi all, anyone knows of a good file recovery program other than testdisk?16:04
k1lsanjeb: photorec16:04
sanjebother than photorec...16:05
rorysanjeb: if testdisk and/or photorec didn't help, the files have gone16:05
rorysanjeb: why are testdisk and photorec not an option?16:05
k1lHexaChop: please run a "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999"16:06
sanjebthere are some files that were not recovered16:06
k1lsanjeb: there is no way to get everything back. maybe those files are already overwritten hardwarewise. then there is no way to get them back.16:06
sanjebI found out that some files got recovered on a recovery program on windows, but I done have a windows to try that again16:07
HexaChopk1l, http://termbin.com/7b0316:07
sanjebok, thanks16:07
k1lsanjeb: if that partitoin/disk is in use the chances are high that more data gets overwritten everytime16:07
HexaChop!info pastebin16:09
ubottuPackage pastebin does not exist in yakkety16:09
HexaChop!info pastebinit16:10
ubottupastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5-1 (yakkety), package size 14 kB, installed size 156 kB16:10
HexaChop!ping16:10
ubottupong!16:10
BluesKajHexaChop, why are you pinging the bot?16:11
agungyes16:11
Abbasihi16:11
R2AMOHave you pinged today?16:11
HexaChopBluesKaj, agung, I am playing ping pong with it! :D16:12
cfhowlettHexaChop, stop it16:12
HexaChopcfhowlett, fiiiiine, though I cannot see how this could be disturbing.16:12
cfhowlettthis is not the play channel.  take your ubottu msgs private with /msg ubottu16:12
agungsorry i am trying16:12
HexaChopcfhowlett, mate, you don't need to go so harsh on me, like holy smokes!16:13
k1lHexaChop: please run a "cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999"16:13
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HexaChopkil, http://termbin.com/m4g0 there. ^^16:14
HexaChopk1l, http://termbin.com/m4g0 there. ^^16:14
baka_hallo lur,, calageur di lembur ?16:15
corvojoin #esp826616:15
HexaChopcfhowlett, I am sorry, if it was somewhat not OK to play ping pong with ubottu...16:16
k1lHexaChop: lines with # at the beginning are not seen by the sytem. so you need to remove the # at the beginning of GRUB_GFXMODE=1920x108016:16
HexaChopk1l, OK, thanks fo' da infou...16:17
HexaChopk1l, ERROR, ** (gedit:3209): WARNING **: Set document metadata failed: Setting attribute metadata::gedit-encoding not supported16:17
k1lHexaChop: dont use gedit for that16:18
HexaChopk1l I do not know any other program.16:18
k1lHexaChop: use "sudo nano /etc/default/grub"   saving with ctrl+o, exit with ctrl+x16:18
pavlosHexaChop, use gksu gedit /etc/default/grub16:18
HexaChopI crashed...16:23
srulii have dual boot ubuntu (different flavours) each on separate luks partition, so that a update-grub after a kernel update doesnt delete the menuentry for ubuntuB i created a custom.cfg in /boot/grub/ based on this http://paste.ubuntu.com/13622375/ however when i try to boot it after entering passphrase i get an error "file /vmlinuz4.4.xxxxx" not found, you need to load the kernel first" in the past i did mange to get this config working, what am i doing wrong h16:26
HexaChopk1l, you there?16:27
k1lyes16:27
HexaChopk1l, I crashed...16:27
HexaChopk1l, so which program to use for editing that file?16:27
k1lHexaChop: "my car broke" :)16:27
HexaChopk1l, what do you mean?16:28
k1l<k1l> HexaChop: use "sudo nano /etc/default/grub"   saving with ctrl+o, exit with ctrl+x16:28
Guest57546On bootup my laptop is going straight into sleep. It appears the battery died while it was asleep. Is there a setting I can change to tell it to boot freshly?16:28
Guest57546I'm using Ubuntu 16.0416:28
k1lHexaChop: how is a mechanic suppose to know what is broke with not me giving him some details :)16:28
HexaChopk1l, OK, OK, I got the point :). Anyways, I still get an error after grub-update...16:30
k1lHexaChop: "my car is still broke"16:30
HexaChopk1l, OK, I got the error window, that is it.16:31
k1lclick on "more details" button. see what is shows there16:31
HexaChopki\1l, it just says "Report problem..." and "Cancel".16:33
HexaChopk1l, it just says "Report problem..." and "Cancel".16:33
k1lHexaChop: click on report. on the next window it should offer the more details button16:34
HexaChopk1l, it gives me no other window after hitting report problem.16:35
k1lHexaChop: maybe it needs a bit to grab the logs from the system16:35
HexaChopk1l, maybe...16:36
HexaChopk1l, how-to16:37
HexaChopk1l, ? :D16:37
k1lHexaChop: ls -al /var/crash/ | nc termbin.com 999916:37
HexaChopk1l, http://termbin.com/vxzo16:38
ledeniHexaChop,did you install Nvidia proprietarty drivers like nvidia.run file?16:40
HexaChopledeni, no?16:40
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ledeniHexaChop,how you install nvidia drivers like 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-375'16:42
HexaChopledeni, exactly like that.16:42
Menzadorledeni: I would check Additional Drivers under (System) Settings first.16:43
TestingIRCis this the right place to ask question ?16:43
k1lHexaChop: ok, grub update scans the disks for other OSs to put them into grub, too. like windows. seems that makes some issue. what error do you see exactly when you run "sudo update-grub" in terminal? please copy the terminal output manually to paste.ubuntu.com16:45
HexaChopk1l, kk.16:45
HexaChopk1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23771044/16:47
ledeniHexaChop,can you run sudo nvidia-xconfig --no-logo16:47
k1lledeni: the video driver (which ever it is) is working. his only issue is that plymouth seems not to display the ubuntu logo16:48
HexaChopledeni, http://termbin.com/7byu16:48
k1lHexaChop: ok, that is not error there. so it should be fine. the Warning is just a warning that one setting is not used, but that doent matter at all.16:49
ledeniHexaChop,thanks16:49
HexaChopledeni, np, bro.16:49
ledeniHexaChop,can you reboot system16:50
HexaChopk1l, I get program problem report window when running that command.16:50
HexaChopledeni, sure.16:50
HexaChopk1l, I get 2 error windows on boot.16:53
ledeniHexaChop,did you get old ubuntu splash screen?16:54
k1lHexaChop: ls -al /var/crash/ | nc termbin.com 999916:54
DreamanHexaChop  one hdd or 216:55
HexaChopledeni, I get when shutting down, but when booting up I get it too, but for a short time and then it buggs out. I will send you a link to the screenshot soon.16:55
HexaChopk1l, ledeni, https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6mJmT6oWmcxT2hFNGVNRVZrVzg/view?usp=sharing16:56
k1lHexaChop: honestly: i wouldnt care about that. its to advanced to solve (if possible) for your experience level.16:56
ledeniHexaChop,get use to it that is normally for nvidia drivers16:57
HexaChopk1l, ledeni, on my other system with nividia gpu it works fine.16:58
k1lHexaChop: i already explained that16:58
k1lHexaChop: that depends on the exact cards and drivers in use. you cant say: "on my 20 years old Car that worked"  that is technically no reason16:58
k1lHexaChop: new cards and drivers have bugs and errors. they get sorted after a while.16:59
HexaChopk1l, right. I guess new hardware is very harsh about opensource software.17:00
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k1lHexaChop: you are not using open source, you are using nvidia closed source drivers. but yes, they do lack some parts in comparison to windows drivers. but if its only the boot screen that is displayed for 5 seconds, i think that is ok to handle.17:01
HexaChopk1l, I get 2 error windows at boot simultaneously, too.17:02
k1l<k1l> HexaChop: ls -al /var/crash/ | nc termbin.com 999917:02
parr!list17:03
ubottuparr: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».17:03
HexaChopk1l, http://termbin.com/iiez17:04
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k1lHexaChop: sudo rm /var/crash/*17:05
ioriaHexaChop, you can reomve that files , and see , after reboot, if the pop again ...17:05
ioria*those17:05
ioriaHexaChop, you need sudo , i think17:06
HexaChopioria, you are alive!17:07
ioriaHexaChop,  kinda17:08
HexaChopioria "kinda"? :O17:08
ioriaHexaChop,  after remove those file, reboot and see17:08
VolisHello again, I got disconnected. Did this channel receive my question?17:08
pavlosVolis, does not seem so17:10
VolisAlright, while compiling Grub, I get this error message, https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23771097/17:11
VolisCan anyone help decipher it?17:11
VolisI'm trying to install Ubuntu on a friend's computer and this guide suggests that after burning the USB I copy boot32.efi to the USB17:12
Volis(this one https://github.com/lopaka/instructions/blob/master/ubuntu-16.04-install-asus-x205ta.md )17:12
parr!list17:14
HexaChopk1l, ioria, no more errors!17:15
jcjordyn120:)17:15
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ioriaHexaChop,   run sudo update-grub17:15
tzfrsHello guys17:16
tzfrsI have a problem with my laptop. I had some issues and wanted to install Ubuntu 16.10 via USB stick. Something went wrong, I reset all my settings, and now can't login into Ubuntu anymore. I am now in the BIOS and want to create a new boot sequence, but don't know with which settings. Anyone got some idea about this topic and can help me?17:16
HexaChopioria, so, why are you "kinda" alive?17:16
ioriaHexaChop,   flew17:17
HexaChopioria system program problem detected, still. (k1l)17:17
HexaChopioria, off a bike?17:17
cfhowlettless jokes would make it easier to find the actual important data, HexaChop17:18
ioriaHexaChop,   yup....  can paste again    ls -al /var/crash17:18
cfhowletttzfrs, you should have a "default" setting.  that' the one you want17:19
tzfrs@cfhowlett, when I enter the default option, I just get a busy box terminal, no ubuntu starting17:19
FunnyLookinHatHeyo - I'm trying to figure out how to change the "Resize Window" event from "Alt + Middle Click" to "Control + Alt + Left Click" - anyone know how I could do that?  I've looked around Unity Tweak and Gnome tweak to no avail.17:20
FunnyLookinHat(I'm using Unity)17:20
HexaChopcfhowlett, It was a serious question.17:20
HexaChopioria, http://termbin.com/6j1417:20
jose__Hi, i have a lexmark x7170 printer. where can I find driver for that printer17:21
tzfrsI somehow broke sth17:21
ioriaHexaChop,   you can disable whoopsie , but it would be only a workaround17:21
HexaChopiora, I would prefer the pure fix not a workaround, but if there is no other way, then workaround is my only option.17:22
tzfrsWhen I enable legacy boot and select my ssd to boot from I get the message "Selected boot device failed. Press any key to reboot the system"17:23
HexaChopioria, I would prefer the pure fix not a workaround, but if there is no other way, then workaround is my only option.*17:23
ioriaHexaChop,   when did you start to get that error ?17:25
HexaChopioria, after trying this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/362722/how-to-fix-plymouth-splash-screen-in-all-ubuntu-releases17:26
ioriaHexaChop,   ls /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash17:26
MozammelHi guys, does anybody using PHC patch for intel CPU, on ubuntu 16.10 ?17:27
HexaChopioria, no output.17:27
ioriaHexaChop,   cat /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash17:28
HexaChopioira output="FRAMEBUFFER=y"17:28
HexaChopioria, output="FRAMEBUFFER=y"17:28
ioriaHexaChop,   why don't we reverse that ?17:28
HexaChopioria let's reverse that.17:28
ioriaHexaChop,   sudo nano /etc/default/grub and comment what you added17:29
HexaChopioria, "# you can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo'17:30
HexaChopGRUB_GFXMODE=1920x1080" these lines were edited.17:30
ioriaHexaChop,   comment that17:30
ioriaHexaChop,   also GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep17:31
HexaChopioria, what do you mean by "comment that"?17:31
ioriaHexaChop,    comment with '#' GRUB_GFXMODE=1920x1080"  and GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep17:32
ioriaHexaChop,   and paste    /etc/default/grub17:32
HexaChopioria,17:33
HexaChopioria, error writing (path), access denied.17:33
popqHey I'm working on installing ubuntu 16.04 on my system. So I was allocating space. My C drive on windows doesn't contain enough space for me to allocate. Is it alright to allocate from the other primary partitions? I don't know if this question is appropriate for this channel.17:33
ioriaHexaChop,   use sudo+17:33
ioriaHexaChop,   use sudo17:34
ioriaHexaChop,   sudo nano /etc/default/grub        edit, ctrl+x and 'y'17:34
HexaChopioria, done...17:37
ioriaHexaChop,   paste    /etc/default/grub17:37
ioriaHexaChop,   paste   cat  /etc/default/grub17:37
HexaChopioria, http://termbin.com/5gr217:38
ioriaHexaChop,   ok, sudo rm /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash17:39
HexaChopioria, done, no output.17:39
ioriaHexaChop,   sudo update-initramfs -u17:39
cerealso I'm noticing a bridge of mine had an ipv6 address even after doing iface br99 inet manual and iface br99 inet6 manual, what am I missing?17:39
HexaChopioria, how do you know all this stuff? This is amazing!17:40
HexaChopioria, done, output: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.8.0-32-generic17:40
ioriaHexaChop,   i'am just making steps backwards17:41
ioriaHexaChop,    sudo rm /var/crash/*17:41
HexaChopioria, done, no output.17:41
ioriaHexaChop,    sudo update-grub17:41
HexaChopioria, done, no errror came up.17:42
ioriaHexaChop,    reboot17:42
HexaChopioria, roger that.17:42
BluesKajioria, I admire your patience :-)17:43
iorialol17:43
HexaChopioria, done/17:45
HexaChopioria, done.*17:45
ioriaHexaChop,    run again  sudo update-grub17:45
HexaChopioria, I still get that error though after a while, my terminal is not even on17:46
ioriaHexaChop,    ls -al /var/crash/*17:46
HexaChopioria, system program problem errors at boot and at update-grub.17:46
ioriaHexaChop,    ls -al /var/crash/*17:46
vhjvjjUBUNTU IS FOR WOMEN. REAL MEN USE UNIX AND SMASH THE COMPUTER WHEN SHIT DOESN'T WORK!17:47
cuddleis pidgin broken17:47
HexaChopvhjvjj, could you PLEASE stop swearing and stop being aggresive?17:47
cuddlefor google talk17:48
HexaChopioria, output, -rw-r----- 1 root whoopsie 1812159 Sau  9 19:42 /var/crash/_usr_bin_grub-mount.0.crash17:48
HexaChopSpeiros, u there?17:48
cuddlewhy does google block pidgin17:49
xanguacuddle: because they want to reinvent the wheel17:49
cfhowlettcuddle, you'd have to ask google about taht17:50
glitchdcfhowlett, any clue on how to change the background of the lock screen in xubuntu 16.04.1?17:51
cfhowlettglitchd, I have xubuntu - let me look17:51
ioriaHexaChop,    maybe /var/log/syslog , kern.log, and dmesg can tell something more17:51
HexaChopglitchd, ohh, hello there, mate! :D17:52
glitchdhey hey HexaChop17:52
glitchdcfhowlett, thx17:52
HexaChopioria, http://termbin.com/a767 (syslog)17:53
alebetafriends i got some problems in my disk, then i recover it, but i looks like in the recovery process some files from apt were deleted, and i need to recreate my apt files again17:53
HexaChopioria, http://termbin.com/weog (kern.log)17:53
alebetaits possible, to make apt aware of all packages again17:53
HexaChopioria, no file or dir found (dmesg)17:54
ioriaHexaChop,    grub-customize  ????17:54
HexaChopioria just installed it, never touched anything in there though17:54
ioriaHexaChop,    you installed it17:54
cfhowlettglitch I think it's Settings > LightDM GTK settings > appearance > background > Use user wallpaper if available17:54
glitchdcfhowlett, yea thats already set...17:54
cfhowlettglitchd, and background > image is checked?17:55
glitchdcfhowlett, yep17:55
ioriaHexaChop,    from ppa ?17:55
HexaChopioria from terminal, idk what repo.17:55
ioriaHexaChop,   i don't think it's in the repos17:56
ioriaHexaChop,   can you paste /etc/apt/sources.list.d17:56
HexaChopioria, sure.17:57
ioriaHexaChop,   i mean   ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d17:57
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HexaChopioria, http://termbin.com/hxur17:58
glitchdcfhowlett, are there any config files i can edit manually to set the background correctly?17:58
ioriaHexaChop,   danielrichter2007-ubuntu-grub-customizer-yakkety.list        purge that17:58
cfhowlettpossibly, glitchd but I don't know where to they are ... .xfce files somewhere I suppose17:58
HexaChopioria what?17:58
HexaChopioria how?17:58
glitchdcfhowlett, alrighty then, thx anyways17:59
ioria  !info ppa-purge | HexaChop17:59
ubottuHexaChop: ppa-purge (source: ppa-purge): disables a PPA and reverts to official packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8+bzr63 (yakkety), package size 6 kB, installed size 24 kB17:59
HexaChopioria what about a command? I am messing it up18:01
ethedhello18:01
ioriaHexaChop,   sudo apt-get install ppa-purge18:01
HexaChopioria, done18:01
ioriaHexaChop,   sudo ppa-purge ppa:< pkgppaname >/ppa18:02
HexaChopioria, pdating packages lists18:04
HexaChopPPA to be removed: ppa:danielrichter2007-ubuntu-grub-customizer-yakkety.list ppa18:04
HexaChopWarning:  Could not find package list for PPA:18:04
HexaChopppa:danielrichter2007-ubuntu-grub-customizer-yakkety.list ppa18:04
HexaChopioria, whoops, ppa was there, sorry18:04
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HexaChopioria :D18:04
HexaChopioria, nope, doesn't work.18:05
ioriaHexaChop,   the name is ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer18:05
ioriaHexaChop,   sudo ppa-purge ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer18:05
BluesKajohhh, that grub customizer is a minefield for new users18:06
HexaChopioria, saved me18:06
ioriaHexaChop,  purged ?18:06
HexaChopioria, yup18:06
Mozammelhi guys, just a simple question. does PHC works for ubuntu 16.10 ? Kernel 4.8.0-32-generic18:06
BluesKajiora has the "chops" :-)18:06
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ioriaHexaChop,   cat /etc/apt/sources.luist18:06
HexaChopioria, "PPA PURGED SUCCESSFULLY".18:06
ioriaHexaChop,   cat /etc/apt/sources.list18:06
HexaChopioria, http://termbin.com/fnm518:07
HexaChopBluesKaj, how should I take the word "chops"?18:07
ioriaHexaChop,   ok,   sudo apt update18:07
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HexaChopioria, all packages are up to date.18:08
ioriaHexaChop,   reboot18:08
BluesKajHexaChop, google the term "chops"18:08
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BluesKajHexaChop, nevermind google won't gib=ve the slang term for chops ...it'means experienced and accomplished in certain areas of endeavor,like musucians  etc18:11
HexaChopBluesKaj, mouth? Well, you don't make ANY sense whatsoever.18:11
BluesKajread above18:11
HexaChopBluesKaj, OK, OK. There are alternative meanings to this.18:11
HexaChopioria, rebooting.18:12
BluesKajyes, it's a slang term18:12
HexaChopioria, done18:14
ioriaHexaChop,  sudo update-grub18:14
HexaChopioria, still getting errors (note I have a bunch of CDs purchased for installing Linux)18:15
ioriaHexaChop,    ls -al /var/crash/*18:16
HexaChopioria, done, output: -rw-r----- 1 root whoopsie 1812159 Sau  9 19:42 /var/crash/_usr_bin_grub-mount.0.crash18:19
ioriaHexaChop,    nope, it's the same as before18:20
ioria<HexaChop> ioria, output, -rw-r----- 1 root whoopsie 1812159 Sau  9 19:42 /var/crash/_usr_bin_grub-mount.0.crash18:20
ioriasame timestamp18:20
ioriaHexaChop,    sudo rm /var/crash/*18:21
HexaChopioria, done, no output.18:23
ioriaHexaChop,   sudo update-grub18:23
HexaChopioria, still same error18:23
ioriaHexaChop,   ok, running out of ideas.... try to paste   dmesg18:24
HexaChopioria, aste: dmesg: No such file or directory18:24
HexaChopioria, paste: dmesg: No such file or directory18:25
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ioriaHexaChop,   dmesg18:25
ioriaHexaChop,   paste that18:25
HexaChopioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23771643/18:26
HexaChopioria, and the mute icon is bugged, when volume is on it still shows like it is muted on youtube.18:27
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ioriaHexaChop,   grub-mount[4174]: segfault at 55ed996f211d ip 000055ec97cdac04 sp 00007ffc5f849e30 error 4 in grub-mount[55ec97cb3000+95000]18:27
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HexaChopioria, wut?18:28
ioriaHexaChop,   possibly it's just a warning18:28
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HexaChopioria "possibly?18:30
HexaChopioria "possibly"?18:30
smeerthey18:31
ioriaHexaChop,   if you don't get errors when you run sudo update-grub (in terminal, i mean) it should be fine18:31
smeertis `date` always userwide or per user?18:31
HexaChopioria, I get an error window18:31
ioriaHexaChop,   that is whoopsie18:31
HexaChopioria, how to make CDROM wrk with Ubuntu?18:32
Picismeert: the date itself, or the format?18:32
ioriaHexaChop,   what you mean ?18:32
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HexaChopioria if CDROM is plugged in, Ubuntu would not launch18:33
smeertdate command itself18:33
smeertwhen i run 'date' as normal user18:33
wettingIf I am using live Linux  pen drive on Windows machine; is it possible to take an image of Windows os?18:33
smeertwondering that, its two hours off. can i  change it or does root have to change it?18:33
ioriaHexaChop,   what cdrom is that ?  or dvd18:33
cfhowlettHexaChop, cdrom is too small for ubuntu.  you need dvd18:33
wettingWith driver18:33
ioriaHexaChop,   installation media, you mean ?18:34
Southern_Gentlemwetting,  more info of what you are trying to do please, from above it can be taken several different way18:34
wettingSouthern_Gentlem which ways you thought?18:35
Southern_Gentlemyou are booting on a linux usb correct18:35
HexaChopioria, cfhowlett, the CDROM, if it is connected to SATA, I mean.18:35
Southern_Gentlemand you want to img the existing harddrive ?18:35
wettingYes existing hard drive with Windows os w8.1 and drivers18:36
wettingThere's no any personal data in iy18:36
wettingIt18:36
Southern_Gentlemthe and drivers is confusing18:36
smeertwetting: ?18:36
wetting(Southern_Gentlem) the and drivers is confusing18:36
wettingWhy?18:37
wettingEvery device has drivers18:37
ioriaHexaChop,   the cdrom device it's not working at all or the disk is not working ?18:37
Southern_Gentlemif you image the hd you are imageing the hard drive so everything would be there18:37
wettingThis is tablet.18:37
wettingsmeert yes18:37
HexaChopioria, not working at all.18:37
wettingSouthern_Gentlem okay18:37
HexaChopioria, forget about any CDROM Media, it is the thing itself18:37
wettingThen how to do it?18:37
Southern_Gentlemdd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/"whatever your external hd is"18:38
ioriaHexaChop,    sudo lshw -C disk18:38
Southern_Gentlemdd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/"whatever your external hd is" BS=4M18:38
Southern_Gentlembut you will need another hd the same size or larger18:39
wettingSouthern_Gentlem I have external pen drive of higher size; will it work18:40
cipher6SSH'd into $PC1 from $PC2. Want to rsync/scp/mv  a file from $PC1 to $PC2, transfer fails re: maxauthtries18:40
cipher6Any help?18:40
HexaChopioria, http://termbin.com/5t5418:40
Southern_Gentlemwetting your pen drive is larger than the hd in the system?18:41
ioriaHexaChop,    yep, no cdrom ... try    sudo lsblk -f18:42
wettingYes its Tablet 16gb only.  Southern_Gentlem18:42
Southern_Gentlemwetting,  then yes18:43
Southern_Gentlemand you have 2 usb ports correct18:43
wettingDo I need to attach two pen drives together?18:43
HexaChopioria, I took it out18:43
HexaChopioria, because if it is plugged in, ubuntu freezes.18:43
ioriaHexaChop,    oh, well18:43
wettingSouthern_Gentlem I don't have hub18:43
Southern_Gentlemwetting,  and you sure that is the internal hd size not the memory18:43
wettingThere's single port18:43
HexaChopioria, I need to fix the freeze.18:43
wettingCheck iball i70118:44
wettingI am less technical18:44
ioriaHexaChop,    maybe sata port order ... i guess18:44
Southern_Gentlemyou cant run linux from the usb and dd to same port18:44
wettingWhat's dd?18:44
bubbafatI'm running 16.04 under VMWare Workstation on a Windows 7 host.  Everything is fine when I'm at the Win7 host but when I terminal serv into the WIn7 machine the VM is entirely black/blank once lightdm starts.  Thoughts for debugging?18:44
Southern_Gentlemman dd18:44
wettingI was about to ask you to explain me this18:44
HexaChopioria, HELP? my satas are kinda under my GPUs.18:45
wetting(Southern_Gentlem) dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/"whatever your external hd is"18:45
wetting(Southern_Gentlem) dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/"whatever your external hd is" BS=4M18:45
timypbubbafat what rdp client are you using?18:45
Southern_Gentlemthe second command18:45
bubbafattimyp: Microsoft's mstsc18:45
Southern_Gentlemwetting,  most hd in linux are /dev/sda18:45
ioriaHexaChop,   that's not easy from here ... you have to switch them18:45
Southern_Gentlemso any externals will be /dev/sdb etc18:46
wetting(Southern_Gentlem) man dd ?18:46
bubbafatI tried going to a root shell and reinstalling the vmware tools (which succeeded) but even after that when I manually start lightdm, same issue.  blank screen.18:46
Southern_Gentlemyes man dd18:46
timypso you are trying to rdp from windows 7 to linux or from linux to win 7?18:46
Southern_Gentlemif you are running a linux man stands for manual and dd is the command18:46
wettingI don't yet set up Linux18:46
wettingI am still in Windows18:47
bubbafatI'm sitting at a windows machine (at home) using terminal services to connect to my work desktop (windows 7) which is running VMWare Workstation with Ubuntu 16.04 guest.18:47
ioriabrb18:47
HexaChopioria, tried switching the one with the SSD and CDROM, didn't help18:47
Southern_Gentlemwetting, https://paste.fedoraproject.org/523959/4839876218:47
timypso you are having trouble rdp'ing into a windows machine to a windows machine?18:47
sss_hi18:49
bubbafatI can see my work desktop fine.  On that desktop the VMWare WOrkstation application is running.  I should be able to see my Ubuntu session in the vmware console window.18:49
sss_russian please18:49
bubbafatIf I'm sitting at my work desktop I can see it fine.  If I connect to my work desktop remotely I cannot.18:49
cfhowlett!ru | sss_18:49
ubottusss_: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.18:49
bubbafatBut the problem only begins once lightdm starts.  Prior to that I can see the vm client (ubuntu) just fine.18:49
timyptry adjusting resolution18:51
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bubbafattimyp: I'll give it a go- I already tried disabling all monitors but the primary but am still at a high resolution.18:54
HexaChopioria, kk.18:54
wrapperDoes #ubuntu-virt  exist anymore?   trying to get help runnig quemu in ubuntu 16.0418:57
wrapperbug in libvert version installed18:57
HexaChopAnyone knows what to do about CDROM not working with Ubuntu?19:00
timypHexaChop what error message are you getting?19:02
TFlanaHi. I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu 16.10 on my laptop, (wiped the disk clean). I installed with encrypting my disk, and set my keyboard to US English. After a successful install, I rebooted. I am presented with the GRUB disk unlock prompt, however, I am unable to enter the correct password because my keyboard is no longer recognizing shift or19:02
TFlana capslock. Is there a work around or do I need to reinstall?19:02
HexaChoptimyp, ubuntu just freezes on boot if CDROM is connected to a SATA port.19:02
BluesKajHexaChop, usually in older pcs the cdrom was the first drive in the boot sequence in the BIOS, assume you have UEFI/BIOS so it may not be first19:03
timypreplace cdrom drive19:03
HexaChopBluesKaj, if set to first, it will fix it?19:04
BlueSharkTFlana, Use a different keyboard?19:04
timypoh right what blueskaj had a good point19:04
BluesKajHexaChop, not sure, but if you ahve a dvd/cvd in the drive atm, eject the the media and try booting with the sata connected, then  go into the uefi/bios and place as first19:05
HexaChopBluesKaj, roger that :D19:06
TFlanaBlueShark: That worked..interesting. The laptop keyboard works once I am inside Ubuntu, too..19:07
wettingVirtualbox or qemu can reside and installed in live usb drive?19:08
BlueSharkTFlana, Did you have issues with the laptop keyboard or a separate USB keyboard?19:08
TFlanaBlueShark, the laptop keyboard.19:09
cfochhi19:15
cfochwhat alternative do I have for coredumpctl (Arch Linux) in Ubuntu?19:15
donofrioanyone have an "AirWatch MDM Agent" for ubuntu?19:16
wiakis there a way to check if am running 4:4:4 subsampling and RGB/YCrCb ?19:16
Picicfoch: The systemd-coredump package exists on 16.04 and higher.19:17
bubbafattimyp: no luck - thanks for the idea.  Tried both on vmware and on the ubuntu guest.  I think I'll try creating a new VM from scratch and see at what point it fell apart.19:17
timypgood luck bubbafat19:18
TFlanaBlueShark, after updating and rebooting, now the external keyboard has the same issue. Stuck at the login.19:19
loahow i can run program when other program is running?19:20
HexaChopDoesn't help19:20
loaautomatically19:20
hackinghornI have 2 versions of the same package (something like cmake), one from apt-get and one from tarball, how to choose which one to use.19:20
BlueSharkTFlana, now both laptop keyboard and the other kb has the same issue?19:21
TFlanaBlueShark, correct.19:21
HexaChopledeni, u there?19:21
BlueSharkhackinghorn, depends which one you run. the one you built manually will need to be executed with the corresponding path.19:21
TFlanaOnly at the login screen.19:21
BluesKajhackinghorn, are they the same version , if so use apt19:21
HexaChopKajimaster, didn't help.19:21
BlueSharki.e. /some/path/package args.19:21
HexaChopledeni, is AFK I guess.19:22
BluesKajHexaChop, sounds like your cdrom drive is unsuitable somehow, your machine is cpabale of usb boot I'm sure so not using the cdrom shouldn't impede your machine's installation abilities19:23
hackinghornBlueShark oh I see, if I have it in /usr/local/ I must run /usr/local/cmake (tarball is newer)19:23
Firefly67I am unable to open a new tab on a terminal, it just opens a new terminal. Can this be fixed?19:23
HexaChopBluesKaj, change SATA port?19:24
hackinghornanyway to just make it go19:24
hackinghornto remove the path19:24
pavlosFirefly67, I think control N pops a tab19:24
BluesKajHexaChop, I doubt that will help. If the cdrom is damaged then the connection won't make any diffeence19:25
Firefly67Ctrl-N isn't working; in Ubuntu 14 I could right click and find an "open new tab" option, in Ubuntu 16 I don't see that option19:25
pavlosFirefly67, shift control T I'm on 16.0419:25
BlueSharkhackinghorn, yes.19:25
HexaChopBluesKaj, it works fine on windows + a brand new CDROM19:25
Firefly67pavlos, yes that worked - thanks!19:26
pavlosFirefly67, see File19:26
pavlosFirefly67, see File on the term19:26
hackinghornBlueShark, anyway to remove the path19:26
HexaChoppavlos, help about the CDROM incompatibility issue?19:26
krh1Hello, newish to Ubuntu and have been having trouble with my computer overheating, then crashing. Started about a month or two ago. Any thoughts?19:26
BlueSharkhackinghorn, remove the path how?19:26
pavlosHexaChop, I've been away, what's the cdrom issue?19:26
pavlosHexaChop, you have a cdrom usb connected but system wont mount it?19:27
donofrioanyone have an "AirWatch MDM Agent" for ubuntu???19:27
Firefly67pavlos, I see only an "open terminal" option there19:27
HexaChoppavlos CDROM if connected via SATA, ubuntu will freeze, but work fine on windows.19:27
pavlosHexaChop, so cdrom is internal19:28
pavlosHexaChop, and connects to the mb via a sata cable and power19:28
HexaChoppavlos, yes.19:28
HexaChoppavlos, tes.19:29
HexaChoppavlos, yes.19:29
pavloscan you move the sata cable to another port and retry?19:29
pavloscan you move the sata cable to another sata connectors19:29
pavlosFirefly67, are you running 16.0419:30
Firefly67pavlos, yes19:30
pavlosFirefly67, can someone verify the options under File menu in terminal on 16.04?19:31
BluesKaj.0.19:31
Firefly67pavlos, the options are open terminal, new profile, close terminal, close all terminals19:32
Firefly67pavlos, I changed the preferences so that a new terminal opens in a new tab and not in a new window. But here I have to choose between the two, in Ubuntu 14 I had both options19:33
HexaChoppavlos, not really, the SATA ports are right next to GPU ports rendering the SATA ports inaccessible.19:33
pavlosFirefly67, hmmm ... dont know why open tab is not there but c-s-t works19:34
pavlosHexaChop, ls -l /dev/sr019:36
crowHi guys, i'm having trouble installing ubuntu from usb. WHen I boot and I choose install ubuntu it stucks on the loading screen. I tried several times, tried ubuntu 16 and 14, i tried disabling fast boot e other things like that but nothing19:36
crowWhat can I do?It doesn't even start asking me install questions :(19:36
HexaChoppavlos, ls: cannot access '/dev/sr0': No such file or directory19:37
pavlosHexaChop, brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 Dec 25 16:00 /dev/sr019:37
pavlosHexaChop, maybe someone can help, I have to go in 10 min19:37
krh1HI:19:38
krh1Sorry for the reapeat message but my computer crashed19:38
HexaChoppavlos, ask someone?19:38
FManTXUbuntu has been asking me to reboot it for two months, so I think I should finally oblige it19:38
krh1My computer keeps overheating and crashing19:38
pavlosHexaChop, anyone on this channel19:38
HexaChoppavlos, brw-rw----+: command not found19:38
efffeI'm on Linux Mint. Is this the right channel?19:38
krh1using ubuntu 16.0419:39
xXEoflaOEXxefffe, no.19:39
HexaChop!mint19:39
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org19:39
mcphailefffe: of course not19:39
pavlosHexaChop, I gave you the output of ls -l /dev/sr019:39
HexaChoppavlos no such file or dir.19:39
pavlosHexaChop, so oyur system does not have a device for the cdrom. Hopefully someone can help19:40
HexaChoppavlos, hopefully19:40
guillaume___hi, i think that my help is going to be very short, i accidentally changed owner ship recursively of the whole /var folder on my ubuntu server (vps), can i do anything to put the right owners back or shall i just reinstall the whole system ?19:40
HexaChopioria, u there?19:40
HexaChopSperios, u there?19:40
HexaChopbasedmars, you there/19:41
krh1Can anyone help me with my overheating problem?19:43
ducassekrh1: clean out dust from the fans19:43
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guillaume___anyone ?19:47
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guillaume___Can i undo the ownership change of the whole /var folder recursively ?19:47
ducasseguillaume___: restore from backup?19:47
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efffeIs Mint any good? What are the differences? I just installed mint and the trackpad is completely fubar19:51
efffethey told me to install 18 instead of 18.119:52
guillaume___no backup, i've had this vps for 2 hours and was only finishing the lamp installation, so i just started a reinstall19:52
guillaume___ducasse:19:52
efffeis ubuntu better with this kind of basic stuff?19:52
ducasseefffe: maybe, try a live image.19:53
efffeducasse: good idea19:54
HexaChopducasse, help.19:55
ikoniaHexaChop: you need to stop hunting out individuals for help, you've been at this for days19:57
ikoniaHexaChop: just state your problem to the channel19:58
HexaChopikonia, It is not as easy as it looks, I have been struggling to set up Linux properly...19:58
HexaChopikonia, it is very frustrating. :(20:00
ikoniaHexaChop: I've watched you for days20:00
ducasseme too20:00
ikoniaHexaChop: hence why you need to clearly state the problem, not depend on individuals20:00
ircnode0which partition number should I choose for sd-card storage?20:01
ikoniaircnode0: the first one available20:02
HexaChopikonia, I get problem after a problem, but OK, here goes... I need help with Ubuntu not booting after CDROM was connected via Sata; I get errors after boot; I get error messages after update-grub.20:02
ircnode0whoops, ^^;;20:02
ikoniaHexaChop: ok, so you need to state the errors, to the channel, using a pastebin if it's a lot of info20:02
ikoniaHexaChop: saying "I get errors" doesn't help, explaining the errors to the channel, will20:03
HexaChopikonia simple "problem with the program" type erros.20:03
ikoniaHexaChop: that doesn't exist20:03
ikonia"problem with the program" is not an error message20:03
donofrioSo no-one here uses Ubuntu in a business setting where AirWatch (device control) is being deployed, mobiles have it liek crazy but not ubuntu?20:03
HexaChopikonia, let me find the exact message.20:03
ikoniaairwatch is not sometihing common on linux20:03
HexaChopikonia system program problem detected.20:04
donofrioikonia, not yet, its growing quickly and I'd like to get one for linux20:04
ikoniadonofrio: I don't believe it is, certainly not in a business sense20:04
ikoniaHexaChop: you get that as an error on the desktop (like a popup ?)20:05
ducasseHexaChop: click 'details'20:05
donofrioikonia, well at our business (education university) they are deploying this moandtory and I'd like to still be able to use my ubuntu installs on the network20:05
shantornhi i have ubuntu-mate installed on my raspi3 and i have partitioned a 1.5gb swap for it but it has to be turned on via swapon every time i reboot, is there a way to have it turn on every time it botts automatically?20:05
ikoniadonofrio: what's stopping you ?20:05
ircnode0I have one partition and it's type is linux filesystem. Which type it should be as a sd-card data storage?20:06
ikoniashantorn: put it in the fstab20:06
HexaChopikonia, yep.20:06
donofriouh apt-get install airwatch -y doesn't work20:06
HexaChopducasse, no "details" button.20:06
ikoniadonofrio: because it won't ne in an ubuntu repo20:06
ikoniadonofrio: it's not a product provided by ubuntu20:06
shantornikonia, ok, ill read on that thanks20:06
donofrioikonia, then ubuntu just doesn't care if these hosts are 'off the network'?20:06
HexaChopikonia and please don't go so harsh on me, I am really drained emotionally because of Linux problems. :)20:07
ikoniadonofrio: ubuntu is nothing to do with this20:07
ikoniadonofrio: airwatch is provided by vmware20:07
ikonia(I think)20:07
ikoniaHexaChop: so you open a terminal and type "grub-install" then you get that popup ?20:07
HexaChopikonia, grub-update.20:08
ikoniaHexaChop: why is the desktop erroring for a terminal command20:08
ikoniathe dekstop wouldn't trap that error20:08
ikoniaHexaChop: why are you typing "grub-udate" and are you using sudo20:08
donofrioikonia, I figured the power of ubuntu could leveage vmware to create a client, linux on the desktop will die in five years if this is not done...20:09
HexaChopikonia, using sudo, yes, I need to update it because I have windows on another (Linux is on external HDD) SSD.20:09
ikoniadonofrio: ubuntu doesn't create clients for vmware, vmware creates applications/clients for ubuntu/linux in general20:09
ikoniaHexaChop: an eternal hdd.....this is going to cause you problems20:10
quasi6is discussion of other distros allowed on this channel?20:10
ikoniaquasi6: not really20:10
HexaChopikonia, nah, I am on Ubuntu right now.20:10
ikoniaHexaChop: nah what ?20:11
HexaChopikonia, It is recognized as a HDD, not a USB.20:11
ikoniaHexaChop: yes, and it will cause you problems20:11
ikoniaHexaChop: where is grub (the actual boot loader) installed, on what disk20:11
quasi6I'm interested in trying out kubuntu instead of xubuntu, since thunar is a bit too stripped down for my liking20:11
ikoniaquasi6: give it a go then20:11
HexaChopikonia, Ext. HDD, but the GRUB launches fine, it's just that error that concerns me.20:12
quasi6ikonia: would it be too buggy to run a different file browser in xfce?20:12
ikoniaquasi6: probably not, probably overkill though as it will need a lot of libraries20:12
ikoniaHexaChop: the desktop shouldn't be erroring on terminal commands20:12
ikoniaHexaChop: boot into recovery mode and try running the command20:12
HexaChopikonia, Thank You for helping me :)20:13
quasi6ikonia: I like xfce but thunar is holding me back. It crashed when renaming files (a really old, unfixed bug) and doesn't search well20:13
quasi6*crashes\20:13
Menzadorquasi6: Then don't use Thunar; you have options, such as Nautilus, Nemo, PCManFM...20:14
Menzadorquasi6: Though you may wish to report a bug or regression.20:14
sasseruse Windows Explorer in wine it works good20:14
quasi6right, but those require a lot of libraries like ikonia mentioned (if I install within the xfce DE)20:14
ikoniasasser: thats just silly20:15
ikoniaplease don't be silly20:15
sasseri have it set to xdg my default fileman20:15
sasserits not silly20:15
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ikoniasasser: it really is silly20:15
MenzadorActually, PCManFM doesn't have that much of a footprint.20:15
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quasi6unrelated but what are the primary differences of running something like antegros with xfce vs xubuntu? I understand that the package manager and base is different, but in terms of appearance and general use aren20:17
quasi6aren't they pretty much the same?20:17
Southern_Gentlemquasi6, test both in a vm and then you can tell us20:18
Menzadorquasi6: Versioning, package management, that's it.20:18
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MenzadorNot even the base (unless you count different Linux kernel versions as being 'different')20:19
quasi6i see20:19
MenzadorEspecially now that Ubuntu has moved to systemd.20:19
quasi6I'll probably check out kde then since it seems to be more featured than xfce20:20
ioriaquasi6, using default thunar or from ppa ?20:20
quasi6yes20:20
quasi6whatever came preinstalled with xubuntu I'm using20:20
ioriaquasi6,     this ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/156531920:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1512120 in thunar (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1565319 thunar crashes on file renaming" [High,Confirmed]20:21
quasi6yeah that's it\20:21
quasi6I rename a lot so it's frustrating20:21
ioriaquasi6,     grep cdrom /etc/apt/sources.list20:22
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quasi6ioria: not sure what that is20:23
ioriaquasi6,    what 's the output ?20:23
quasi6# deb cdrom:[Xubuntu 16.10 _Yakkety Yak_ - Release amd64 (20161012.2)]/ yakkety main multiverse restricted universe20:24
SlackGuruHey all!20:24
SlackGuruFollowing an upgrade to 16.04 I am finding that swap/cryptswap are fubar.20:24
ioriaquasi6,    there is a patch available, but not official20:26
quasi6ioria: do you have a link?20:26
ioriaquasi6,    http://askubuntu.com/questions/725450/thunar-crashes-when-renaming-files and https://tuxdiary.com/2016/06/10/fix-thunar-crash-move-rename/20:27
quasi6thank you20:28
iorianp20:28
alb3rt_hi guys pls i have been trying to install swig on xenial but i keep geting some error msg can anybody help20:34
ioria!info swig xenial20:36
ubottuswig (source: swig): Generate scripting interfaces to C/C++ code. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.8-0ubuntu3 (xenial), package size 6 kB, installed size 307 kB20:36
HexaChopBack, everyone! really had to leave shortly.20:36
HexaChopIoria, I am getting even more errors after booting into Ubuntu. (The same ones (Windows are called "Report a problem..."))20:37
ioriaHexaChop, mmmm20:38
ioriaHexaChop, the same /var/crash/_usr_bin_grub-mount.0.crash   in /var/crash20:38
HexaChopioria, wut?20:39
ioriaHexaChop,   ls /var/crash20:40
ioriaHexaChop,   ls  -al /var/crash20:41
HexaChopioria, thank you for your amazing help, idk what I would do without you :)20:42
HexaChopioria, http://termbin.com/4vs820:43
ioriaHexaChop,   no proble, yes it's always the same error  : _usr_bin_grub-mount.0.crash20:44
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ioriaHexaChop, don't think so.... EriC^^ is the grub specialist, maybe he knows something about this issue, be patient :þ20:47
HexaChopioria, is EriC^^ here?20:48
ducasseHexaChop: does this machine boot in uefi or legacy mode?20:48
SebthreeBQM10HDhi20:48
HexaChopducasse, both20:48
ioriaHexaChop,  think afk20:48
HexaChopioria probably20:48
ducasseHexaChop: which one are you using?20:48
HexaChopducasse, UEFI.20:48
ioriasurely efi20:49
ducasseHexaChop: can you pastebin the output of 'sudo efibootmgr -v'?20:49
HexaChopducasse, sure.20:50
SebthreeBQM10HDhi20:50
HexaChopducasse, http://termbin.com/puoe20:50
SebthreeBQM10HDuhmm new Ubuntu 16.10 install from lsat night, but forgotton the user name and password for the account (could re install at this early stage, but want to avoide that)20:51
SebthreeBQM10HDlog in screen has my name but thats not same as user account name20:51
SebthreeBQM10HDfiles  showed home stuff as blank on live session.20:51
ducasseHexaChop: so, you're using one efi partition for windows and one for linux - that's probably the source of the problem.20:52
HexaChopducasse, different SATA devices for each.20:53
ioriaHexaChop,  can you paste sudo parted -l20:54
asdfasdfdsbest git gui for linux?20:55
ducasseHexaChop: yes, i can tell. there should still only be one efi partition. your problem might be something else, but...20:55
HexaChopioria, sure.20:55
SlackGuruHas anyone addressed the loss of swap during an upgrade to 16.04?20:55
HexaChopioria, http://termbin.com/m5ic20:56
wettingHow to use Linux from virtual box?pen drive20:56
asdfasdfdsanyone use https://github.com/jonas/tig?20:57
ioriaHexaChop,  yes, i think it's a esp partition problem20:57
HexaChopioria, ducasse, suggestions?20:58
ducasseHexaChop: move the ubuntu bbot dir to the other esp, delete the current ubuntu efi boot entry and create a new one pointing to the other esp. then grub-update.20:59
ducasse*boot20:59
HexaChopducasse, bbot dir?21:00
ducasseHexaChop: typo, boot21:00
HexaChopducasse, how to?21:00
ioriaHexaChop,  what ducasse said  or consider to reinstall ubuntu in legacy mode (on your external drive) ...  but better not booting windows in this case21:02
HexaChopioria, I never boot windows while installing ubuntu.21:02
ducasseHexaChop: i don't have time to go through that step by step now, it's ten at night here and i'm about to log off for the night. but someone should be able to help you do that, now that you have the basic recipe.21:03
ioriaHexaChop,  from grub (when your usb is attached) you can boot windows21:03
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HexaChopI will disconnect all other HDDs/SSDs when installing ubuntu. I will install using CDROM.21:04
HexaChopducasse, it is 11PM here.21:04
ducasseHexaChop: there are other timezones in the world, y'know21:05
HexaChopioria and please point me to the correct iso file and how to correctly check the iso's integrity.21:05
HexaChopducasse, right :D21:05
HexaChopioria, don't want to ruin a CD.21:05
ducasseHexaChop: i'll be here in the morning, though, usually quite early.21:05
HexaChopducasse, our timezones are not too far apart, so we should be able to meet. :)21:06
ioria!checksum | HexaChop21:06
ubottuHexaChop: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM21:06
HexaChopioria and to download location?21:06
HexaChopioria maybe I downloaded the wrong linux21:07
ioriaHexaChop, don't think so  but if you wish http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/21:07
HexaChopioria from the main ubuntu site maybe?21:07
ioriasure21:08
HexaChopioria, ty ^^21:08
ioriaHexaChop, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/21:08
ioriaHexaChop,  the problem it's not the iso, but the grub/efi location21:09
HexaChopioria, I got the broken packages, remember?21:09
ioriaHexaChop,  sure21:09
HexaChopioria, https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads pick something for me from here :D21:10
ioriaHexaChop, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/   is ok i guess21:10
HexaChopioria there is one thousand billion downloads from cdimage21:10
HexaChopioria, which one to pick?21:11
ioriayakkety21:11
HexaChopomg, ioria, I am confused horriblyt21:11
HexaChopomg, ioria, I am confused horribly*21:11
YounderThe latest download is a lemon21:11
Younderwant me to go into the details of why21:12
YounderI'll give you a hint 'systemd'21:13
Younderclose but not quite21:13
jhutchinsYounder: You missed that argument, it's over.21:13
Younderjhutchins, pardon?21:14
HexaChopjhutchins, I am such a pain in the rear, aren't I?21:14
Younderjhutchins, I have used ubuntu for 11 years and I am much unsatisfied with the latest version.21:15
jhutchinsHexaChop: I'll give you this: you're persistent.21:15
HexaChopjhutchins, is that a good thing?21:16
Younderperhaps we should ll be ignored21:16
HexaChopjhutchins It's quite uncomfortable to ask for help anymore, but I really need help and I do not know what to do, sadly.21:19
MenzadorHexaChop: Are you still having the same problem?21:20
YounderTruly centos has the better systemd implemtation21:20
HexaChopMenzador, about which one are you talking about? I had about....meh....A LOT of problems?21:20
Younderyou wnat the truth. there it is21:20
MenzadorHexaChop: The last time I was here, your bootloader wasn't showing up?21:21
k1lYounder: please stop that. its not helpful. we need this channel for actual support. thanks21:21
naccYounder: seems like you're quite offtopic for the support channel, please take it to another channel21:21
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ubottuYounder: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:21
YounderThanks for the hatemail21:21
HexaChopmenzador, it always was, just not the ubuntu logo with the loading screen. Anyways, I was requested to re-install ubuntu and I need help throughout the process and I do not know which iso to pcik either...21:21
HexaChopmenzador, pick*21:22
MenzadorHexaChop: What image were you using to begin with?21:22
YounderIt is as to see your love corrupted21:22
Youndersad21:22
Younderwhatevere21:22
HexaChopMenzador, something that includes Ubuntu 16.10 64-bit I think.21:22
kapaHello guys! May you please suggest me, I did "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" how can I do autoconfigure ? I want to return to initial status :)21:23
HexaChopMenzador, I was asked to do this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23772636/21:27
ubuntu376Hello everybody. May I ask your for your help ?21:28
nicomachus!ask | ubuntu37621:28
ubottuubuntu376: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:28
MenzadorHexaChop: Oh!21:28
MenzadorHexaChop: Yes, UEFI installs are best done using the "Something else" option. I can walk you through it if you'd like.21:29
ubuntu376Unbuntu tells me that gnupg package must be reinstall? How can I do it ?21:29
Menzadorubuntu376: [ sudo apt install --reinstall gnupg ]?21:29
HexaChopMenzador, I did it though, I did set evrything in gpt partition, I do not know what is wrong...21:29
HexaChopMenzador, I did it though, I did set everything in gpt partition, I do not know what is wrong... *21:29
MenzadorHexaChop: Can you pastebin the output of [ sudo parted -l ]?21:30
HexaChopMenzador, and they asked me to install it in Legacy...21:30
HexaChopMenzador, http://termbin.com/j6l421:31
ubuntu376When I enter [ sudo apt install --reinstall gnupg ] it says the same thing that the package gnupg must be reinstall. I can't install anything ! Everytime it says that the package gnupg must be resintall21:31
marahinHello. I'm trying to see whether my guest-machine is accessible through bridged networking on a certain port.21:31
k1lubuntu376: please put the command and output from terminal on paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here21:32
marahinHow can I setup a telnet server / whatever effortlessy, to see if external machines can connect to it & communicate with it?21:32
HexaChopubuntu376, I know how it can be frustrating about Ubuntu or Linux in general. When an error strikes you, it strikes you hard...21:32
k1lmarahin: usually one uses ssh and not telnet.21:32
HexaChopk1l, Hi again.21:32
MenzadorHexaChop: I'm going to go out on a limb & assume that /dev/sde is your target device?21:32
marahink1l well I would have to change the port of my current openssh server instance, wouldnt i?21:33
HexaChopMenzador, Idk where that is even located xDDDD.21:33
k1lmarahin: that depends on your network setup from that vm-host21:33
wedgiemarahin: you can use nc. ''nc -vl 4000'' where 4000 is whatever port you want (anything below 1024 will require root privs)21:33
k1lmarahin: but you can set the ssh port to something you like in the ssh config and restart the ssh afterwards21:33
marahinwedgie that is what i've been looking for. :)21:33
wedgiethen you can test if something can reach that port (you'll see it printed to the terminal)21:34
MenzadorHexaChop: It could also be /dev/sdc, which is your solid-state drive.21:34
MenzadorAlthough I doubt it21:34
marahink1l changing a service port in order to see if that port is actually available is in my opinion - excuse me - plain stupid.21:34
HexaChopmenzador, just ADATA HDD.21:34
Menzadorbecause the partition layout clearly indicates Windows.21:34
marahinusing nc to check whether it can actually communicate is the way :)21:34
HexaChopMenzador, I can reboot without having those connected.21:34
marahinthank you!21:34
ubuntu376zebux@zebux: -$ sudo apt install --reinstall gnupg Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait Construction de l'arbre des dépendances Lecture des informations d'état... Fait E: Le paquet gnupg doit être réinstallé, mais il est impossible de trouver son archive.21:34
backbox123hi guys21:35
HexaChopMenzador, I will disconnect everything and reboot. I have an external HDD where Linux is installed.21:35
MenzadorHexaChop: OK, don't disconnect hte ADATA HDD then.21:35
HexaChopMenzador, only everything else... But before that throw me a proper ISO for Ubuntu to install into CD21:36
k1lubuntu376: please run "LC_ALL=C sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade" and put all the output into paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here21:36
MenzadorOK, see http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso21:36
HexaChopk1l, Still having problems. I will go for a re-install because it seems that UEFI and LEGACY are involved in this...21:37
HexaChopMenzador, not 16.10?21:37
HexaChopMenzador, https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads21:38
MenzadorHexaChop: You may use 16.10 if you wish. 16.04 is the LTS (long-term support) release.21:38
k1lHexaChop: you had a working OS. i dont know why you want to reinstall. but good luck21:38
HexaChopMenzador, please tell me, it has less bugs?21:38
MenzadorHexaChop: I wouldn't know, I'm on the devel branch.21:38
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HexaChopk1l, unless you can help me without reinstalling. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23772636/21:39
HexaChopMenzador, I will try and get k1l into this, three brains is better than one.21:39
MenzadorHexaChop: You can mark a FAT32 partition as an ESP and get boot files in there.21:40
HexaChopMenzador how? I don't want to touch any other HDD other than the Linux one.21:40
MenzadorHexaChop: The hardware way to do that is to disconnect anything that isn't your target HDD or the Live image.21:41
HexaChopMenzador, it is decided. Let me disconnect everything and reboot.21:41
HexaChopk1l, I am rebooting.21:42
SeRj_ThuramSрусские есть?21:43
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Matulkn_hi21:46
Matulkn_guys :)21:46
HexaChopBack.21:46
HexaChopk1l, back.21:48
HexaChopMenzador, back.21:48
MenzadorWelcome back. So open up GParted.21:49
HexaChop!info gparted21:50
ubottugparted (source: gparted): GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.25.0-1 (yakkety), package size 419 kB, installed size 1924 kB21:50
HexaChopMenzador, Ido not have it installed21:50
MenzadorUm, are you in a Live image?21:50
MenzadorI assumed that you were.21:50
MenzadorYou can install it, though.21:51
HexaChopMenzador, no, I am in normal ubuntu21:51
Menzador(although I would STRONGLY recommend you do these things in a Live image.)21:51
ubuntu213Hi, I was there before but my computer stops. I apologize. Here is the result.  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18    zebux@zebux:~$ LC_ALL=C sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade Ign:1 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty InRelease Ign:2 http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty InRelease               Ign:3 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty InRelease           Hit:4 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu t21:53
HexaChopMenzador, rebooting into live image21:53
ubuntu213https://paste.ubuntu.com/23772795/21:53
nathanhello everyone21:54
nathani didnt realize ubuntu was so popular21:54
wedgieit's the popularist21:55
HexaChopMendzador, in which mode to boot? Normal or uefi?21:55
nathanboot21:55
nathaniwas using mint as my default os but i figured it was time to go full time ubuntu21:55
ubuntu213Everytime I try to install an app it tells me I have to reinstall gnupg21:56
nathanhave you tried checking for system update?21:57
ubuntu213<nathan> are you talking to me ?21:57
naccubuntu213: please use a pastebin and provide the ouput from the command saying you need to reinstall gnupg21:57
ubuntu213ok21:57
ubuntu213https://paste.ubuntu.com/23772814/21:58
blomstertjHexaChop: Did you ever get Ubuntu installed on that PC?22:00
HexaChopMenzador, I am in the live USB22:00
HexaChopbloomstertj, which one? this one? yep22:01
HexaChopblomstertj, which one? this one? yep22:01
blomstertjHexaChop: The one with that ata error22:01
ubuntu213<naac> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23772814/22:01
HexaChopblomstertj, yup22:01
HexaChopblomstertj, into external HDD22:02
mkia01kciao22:02
mkia01k!list22:02
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blomstertjHexaChop: It wouldn't work on the drive you wanted?22:02
HexaChopblomstertj, it did work on the drive I wanted.22:02
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blomstertjHexaChop: oh good.  What did you have to do to get past that error?22:03
pavlosubuntu213, apt-cache policy gnupg22:03
HexaChopGuest93901, why did u change ur name/22:03
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nacc!who | ubuntu21322:03
ubottuubuntu213: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)22:03
HexaChopMenzador, let's continue.22:03
naccubuntu213: also, that is an attempt *to* reinstall gnupg. You said something was telling you that you had to do so, please provide an example of that22:04
ubuntu213<ubottu>https://paste.ubuntu.com/23772834/22:04
ubuntu213nacc I will22:04
ubuntu213<nacc> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23772837/22:05
HexaChopMenzador, I am in Live USB.22:05
naccubuntu213: you are on trusty, why did you manually installe the gnupg from xenial?22:06
genericHello, guys22:06
ubuntu213<nacc> I'm a noob and followed some tutorials to install onlyoffice. Iprbably did something wrong22:06
generichow are you today ?22:07
backbox123hy guys22:07
HexaChopk1l, menzador fell asleep22:07
naccubuntu213: you should never mix releases of ubuntu. You should first fix your gnupg with `apt install gnupg=1.4.16-1ubuntu2.4`. I don't know what 'onlyoffice' is, though.22:09
HexaChopioria, u there?22:09
Toledois anyone seeing their wireless drop in 16.04 when a lot of traffic is put on it, ie download an iso, etc22:10
HexaChopledeni, u there?22:11
Toledonot seeing a notifaction or anything just cant ping out, sometimes it will reconnect other times have to stop the network and restart the service22:11
ubuntu213<nacc> Thanks.  I got the same message https://paste.ubuntu.com/23772868/22:11
Toledoits a lenovo thinkpad w54122:11
HexaChopMenzador, I am in Live USB. Let's get the drive fixed22:14
MenzadorOK22:14
MenzadorSo open GParted22:14
HexaChopMenzador, I was waiting for u for ages22:15
MenzadorSorry, I was doing IRC Team-related stuff.22:15
HexaChopMenzador of Ubuntu?22:15
HexaChopMenzador, I'm in GParted22:16
MenzadorOK, what does it list?22:16
ubuntu213<nacc> It gives me the same message. https://paste.ubuntu.com/23772868/22:17
HexaChop2x ext4, linux-SWAP,  fat32. Please use "HexaChop," so I could trace your messages better.22:18
HexaChop2x ext4, linux-SWAP,  fat32. Please use "HexaChop," so I could trace your messages better, Menzador22:18
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MenzadorHexaChop: OK. Right-click the FAT32 partition and select Flags22:18
HexaChopMenzador, it is just 1GB22:19
MenzadorHexaChop: OK, we need to set the "boot" and "esp" flags to it22:19
HexaChopMenzador, already set22:19
HexaChopMenzador, they were already set before22:19
MenzadorOK...22:20
Menzadorthen exit GParted22:20
HexaChopmenzador, done22:20
Menzadorand run [ sudo mount $ESP /mnt ] where $ESP is the /dev/sdXY of your EFI system partition > HexaChop22:20
HexaChopMenzador, what??22:21
MenzadorOK, that was confusing, I'll admit > HexaChop > do [ sudo parted -l ]22:21
HexaChopMenzador, http://termbin.com/tbae22:22
backbox123jnew whats up22:22
MenzadorHexaChop: Also, your FAT32 EFI system partition doesn't need to be 500 GB...22:23
HexaChopMenzador it is the whole drive of 500GB, lol :D22:23
MenzadorOh, lol, I read it wrong... HexaChop22:23
HexaChopMenzador, lol22:24
MenzadorSo what needs to be done is [ sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt ; sudo grub-install --efi-directory=/mnt --recheck ]22:24
MenzadorHexaChop: ^22:24
jnewtis vnc still the recommended alternative to windows rdp?  I'm wanting to move to ubuntu on a more permanent setup (dual boot), but I rdp a lot (over internet which can be slow for rdp) and it's pretty slow as is.22:24
HexaChopMenzador, Installing for i386-pc platform.22:25
HexaChopgrub-install: error: install device isn't specified.22:25
akik_jnewt: you can use rdp on linux if you connect to windows rdp servers22:25
MenzadorHexaChop: I think you forgot the --efi-directory=/mnt option.22:25
MenzadorHexaChop: Try doing it without --recheck.22:25
HexaChopMenzador and the full command put together is?22:26
jnewtakik_: the client will be windows, server would be ubuntu.22:26
MenzadorHexaChop: So [ sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt ] and then [ sudo grub-install --efi-directory=/mnt ]22:26
akik_jnewt: there's an rdp server for linux called xrdp. there's also x2go which i can recommend22:26
HexaChopMenzador, ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --efi-directory=/mnt22:27
HexaChopInstalling for i386-pc platform.22:27
HexaChopgrub-install: error: install device isn't specified.22:27
MenzadorHexaChop: [ sudo apt update ; sudo apt install grub-efi-amd64 ] and try again.22:27
jnewtakik_, how do they compare in performance over slower networks with win-win rdp setups?22:28
HexaChopMenzador, 227 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.22:28
akik_jnewt: i haven't tested xrdp but x2go is very performant22:28
MenzadorHexaChop: Did you forget what came after the semicolon?22:28
HexaChopMenzador, did install the amd64 and it is now installed22:29
MenzadorOK...22:29
HexaChopMenzador, grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `aufs'.22:29
MenzadorHexaChop: [ sudo grub-install --efi-directory=/mnt ]22:29
Mdhow I do I debug upstart hanging at boot time? I have managed to boot in bash, open a second shell and then exec'ed upstart22:29
HexaChopMenzador, grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `aufs'.22:29
MenzadorHexaChop: [ sudo blkid | grep -i sda4 ]22:30
akik_jnewt: x2go is also secure as all data goes through the ssh daemon22:30
HexaChopMenzador, done22:30
MenzadorHexaChop: No output?22:30
HexaChopMenzador,  sudo blkid | grep -i sda422:31
HexaChopubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --efi-directory=/mnt22:31
HexaChopInstalling for x86_64-efi platform.22:31
HexaChopgrub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `aufs'.22:31
MenzadorNuts.22:31
MenzadorHexaChop: [ ls /mnt ]22:31
HexaChopMenzador let me send you the pastebin of the whole thing22:31
MenzadorOK22:31
jnewtakik_, I know the advantage of rdp over vnc is that it sends info on control locations, window sizes, etc as opposed to vnc sending the actual image changes.  any idea how x2go operates?22:32
HexaChopMenzador, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23772989/22:32
akik_jnewt: i don't remember the protocol details but it's lighter than vnc22:32
akik_jnewt: but one factor is also that it doesn't support all the newer desktop environments22:33
akik_jnewt: the newer desktop environments require 3d accel which x2go doesn't support22:34
MenzadorHexaChop: Is /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2 your Linux partition? You have 2 ext4 partitions.22:34
MenzadorHexaChop: And by that, I mean "which partition does / itself mount to?"22:34
HexaChopMenzador, sda1 for the OS, sda2 for home22:34
jnewtakik_, i've been using ubuntu mate.  does that fall under "newer"?22:34
akik_jnewt: mate works22:34
HexaChopMenzador, so sda1 to /22:35
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MenzadorHexaChop: OK, we're going to create a chroot and try to force GRUB to update.22:37
MenzadorHexaChop: HexaChop: OK, run this: [ sudo umount /mnt ; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ; sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi ; cd /mnt ; sudo mount -o bind /proc proc/ ; sudo mount -o bind /dev dev/ ; sudo mount -o bind /sys sys/ ; sudo chroot /mnt update-grub ]22:38
MenzadorHexaChop: WAIT22:38
HexaChopMenzador, you are in luck that my USB laggs22:38
MenzadorHexaChop: This instead: [ sudo umount /mnt ; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ; sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/boot/efi ; cd /mnt ; sudo mount -o bind /proc proc/ ; sudo mount -o bind /dev dev/ ; sudo mount -o bind /sys sys/ ; sudo chroot /mnt update-grub ]22:38
Toledois there a big difference between the 16.04 and 16.10 intel wireless driver?22:38
MenzadorHexaChop: Once that's finished, if it doesn't work, run [ sudo chroot /mnt grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi ]22:39
Toledoif there is im willing to try a reinstall of 16.10 to help with the random wifi disconnects22:40
HexaChopMenzador, actually updated GRUB22:40
MenzadorOK, then run [ sudo chroot /mnt grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi ; sudo chroot /mnt update-grub ]22:40
HexaChopMentador, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23773022/22:40
HexaChopMentador, done.22:41
MenzadorHexaChop: Now reboot and see if it works.22:42
HexaChopMentador there is a prob, I do not have Windows SSD plugged in, GRUB can't detect windows22:42
HexaChopMenzador there is a prob, I do not have Windows SSD plugged in, GRUB can't detect windows22:42
MenzadorHexaChop: That's OK for now. Plug the Windows SSD back in, reboot into your desktop, run a terminal, and do [ sudo update-grub ]22:42
setuidWhy is it that when I use "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/nvme0n1p7 cryptswap", I get /dev/mapper/cryptswap symlinked to ../dm-0, instead of ../nvme0n1p7?22:42
MenzadorHexaChop: I'll be right back.22:43
HexaChopMenzador, rebooting in the mean time22:43
HexaChopk1l, Hi again22:49
HexaChopk1l, we did re-do stuff, grub updated nicely in USB mode, now it does not again22:50
HexaChopk1l, this calls for one thing - reinstallation22:50
setuidAny ideas?22:55
setuidcryptsetup --hash=sha256 --cipher=aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 --key-size=256 luksFormat /dev/nvme0n1p722:55
setuidThen: cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/nvme0n1p7 cryptswap22:55
setuidand I still get /dev/mapper/cryptswap symlinked to /dev/dm-022:55
setuidNowhere in my configs, setup, etc. is there any reference to dm-0 at all22:56
naccsetuid: what does dm-0 point to?22:59
HexaChopMenzator, back?22:59
setuidnacc, Nothing, it's a raw device23:00
setuidit disappears if I luksClose the cryptswap vol23:00
naccsetuid: maybe check what `sudo dmsetup ls` says when you have it opened23:07
naccsetuid: i think, possibly, that cryptsetup always creates a dm container23:07
naccsetuid: reading the manpage23:07
naccsetuid: 'crypsetup is used to conveniently setup dm-crypt managed device-mapper mappings'23:07
naccsetuid: given that, it has to create, i think, a /dev/dm-* device23:07
setuidIt doesn't do that on 14.0423:07
naccsetuid: which 14.04.x ?23:08
naccsetuid: as in which, kernel23:08
setuid# dmsetup ls23:08
setuidcryptswap       (252:0)23:08
setuid14.04.1 through 14.04.5, all behave as expected23:08
setuid16.04.1 through 16.04.5 have this odd behavior23:08
naccsetuid: well, there is no 16.04.5, so i'm not sure what you're saying there23:08
naccsetuid: 14.04.5 meaning with the xenial hwe stack?23:09
naccsetuid: or just an 'up-to-date' 14.04?23:09
setuidnot sure what to tell you, I updated today, and there are 16.04.5 packages installed, from the main sources23:11
setuidI hadn't booted this partition in 3 weeks, did an upgrade (not dist-upgrade) and everything shattered, had to do a reinstall23:11
setuidgrub, udev, plymouth, initramfs-tools, all of them broke at once23:12
naccsetuid: no, there aren't. why would you think that?23:12
naccsetuid: there literally is no 16.04.5 right now23:12
setuidLet's move past that, the issue isn't with the patch version of Xenial23:12
setuidI'm running 4.4.0-2123:13
naccsetuid: and you tested with the same kernel on trusty? (using 14.04.5)?23:13
setuidEverything is at the defaults, this is 10 minutes after a clean reinstall from the original ISO from June 201623:13
setuidThis is not kernel related, because every kernel on 14.04.5 treats cryptswap exactly the same (I have over 200 kernels installed on that partition, for testing and integration)23:14
setuidI have to run out, back in a bit... I'll fight this when I get back23:14
royal_screwup21How do I open up a new LibreOffice Writer document via the command line?23:15
wedgieroyal_screwup21: libreoffice --writer23:18
theoceaniscoolroyal_screwup21, "libreoffice --writer"23:18
royal_screwup21https://thepasteb.in/p/y8h6qp4XLp9UO wedgie theoceaniscool23:19
theoceaniscoolroyal_screwup21, BTW, you have man, so you can do 'man libreoffice', and then search in that document23:19
wedgieroyal_screwup21: what command did you run?23:19
theoceaniscoolroyal_screwup21, The command is (without ") "libreoffice --writer"23:19
royal_screwup21oh I got it, thanks you guys! :)23:19
kristbaum_It's just a feeling, but are automatic security updates enabled on 16.04 and onward? Everytime I dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades it is already turned on, with some preset filter. Do you know more?23:20
wedgiekristbaum_: it's an option in the installer afaik23:22
royal_screwup21fyi, wedgie, theoceaniscool, "lowriter" also works!23:22
wedgieroyal_screwup21: neat. Did not know that23:23
kristbaum_wedgie: isn't that only to download most updates to date during the installation? I didn't assume it turned on automatic updates..23:24
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HexaChopMenzator, are u back?23:25
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noobok guise i dont know if this is for this chanel, but i want to do some close to basic things in libreoffice.  i want  if(a2=='1'){g3="blah";g4=fillcolor(yellow)}, any ideas?23:30
naccnoob: probably better for an oo-specific channel23:31
nacc!alis | noob23:31
ubottunoob: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"23:31
noobgood idea @naac23:31
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HexaChopAnyone know how to make cdrom work with ubuntu? It only works if I disconnect it from SATA.23:36
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jnewtif i'm dual booting, is there anyway to pre-select what os will boot prior to rebooting (so i can switch oses remotely?)23:38
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HexaChop!ping23:40
ubottupong!23:40
borisetoHey there. What can I do to return all of my apps on Normal priority? For some reason the ones I use the most got the low priority in the System monitor and I can see them that they behave a bit worse than before.23:40
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HexaChopIt seems lik all of the helpers are sleeping or afk.23:40
borisetoHexaChop: oh well. :)23:41
ouroumovboriseto, something like ps axu | grep you | xargs renice 023:41
borisetoouroumov: what does that do?23:41
ouroumovboriseto, with a cut after the grep to get the pid23:41
HexaChopBoriseto I guess wait til tomorrow then.23:42
ouroumovboriseto, ps axu list processes, grep to filter the one you've launched, cut to filter further to keep only the pids, and xargs is a command that reads from stdin and execute another command on what is read from stdin23:42
okthenjnewt yes there is gksudo gedit grubpath, and it's there, but im a little rusty on where that is and what to change...on windows at the moment23:43
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ouroumovboriseto, actually I think a tr is necessary in the pipeline too23:44
borisetoso it would be ' ps axu | grep "my_username" | xargs renice 0' (wait where should the cut be and shouldn't I also give it sudo access"?23:44
ouroumovSomething like this: ps axu | grep $USER | tr -s ' ' ' ' | cut -d' ' -f2 | xargs renice 023:44
wedgieor pgrep -u23:44
jnewtokthen: what i want to do for the time being is install ubuntu over my current freebsd installation, set windows to be the default boot, but be able to remotely tell something to load ubuntu upon reboot.  do the reboot and the re-establish rdp (now into ubuntu system).23:45
bet0xHello, i did a mistake of creating an array (md) of / with 20GB and the rest is on /home. I want to remove 50GB from /home and allocate it on /, is that possible without formating?23:45
xanguabet0x: backup first backup, then do as you wish23:46
ouroumovboriseto, and no, no sudo access23:46
kilbithhi, is there some place I could access the source code of this please ? http://geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup23:46
ouroumovboriseto, it's your processes so you don't need sudo23:46
okthenjnewt hold on 1 sec.  let me fire up my linux lappy23:46
bet0xxangua, what do you mean, its possible to get space from /home and move it to / without formating?23:47
xanguabet0x: backup23:47
wedgie^^ that's good advice even if you aren't messing with your partitions :)23:47
bet0xxangua, Angel, "backup" what does mean, que significa para vos.23:47
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hggdhbet0x: por cá, apenas Ingles :-)23:48
borisetoouroumov: got it.23:48
hggdhbet0x: make backups of your data23:48
bet0xhggdh, i have backups23:49
okthenjnewt gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub23:49
bet0xhggdh, i have backups of backups with backups of the machine itself :P23:49
okthenjnewt and replace GRUB_DEFAULT=0 with GRUB_DEFAULT=23:50
xanguabet0x: it means backup, if you have important data, then you can boot a live session and modify your partitions with gparted... If nothing breaks good, if something breaks you have a backup23:50
borisetoouroumov: but for some reason I do get "permission denied" and nothing changes :/23:50
hggdhbet0x: good. Now I will let someone with arrays to tell you if it is at all possible23:50
okthenjnewt and te number at the end with appropriate OS you want to default next boot23:50
borisetoouroumov: "renice: failed to set priority for 15718 (process ID): Permission denied" to be exact :)23:50
g405tSorry I was away, has anyone touched on the topic of swap no longer working following an upgrade to 16.04?23:50
ouroumovhm23:50
bet0xhggdh, Someone pointed me to use raid with LVM23:50
bet0xhggdh, i will move to raid with LVM to test how it works, but if is a "thing" im sure everything will be fine23:51
ouroumovboriseto, I notice that too, not sure why.23:51
wedgieboriseto: paste the exact command you ran, please23:51
g405tI think dev-mapper-ubuntu is the culprit23:52
wedgieah, it seems you need root to set to priority 023:52
borisetowedgie: ps axu | grep $USER | tr -s ' ' ' ' | cut -d' ' -f2 | xargs renice 023:52
wedgiepgrep -u "$USER" | xargs sudo renice 023:52
borisetowedgie: ok23:52
* wedgie dosn't know if that is a bad idea or not23:53
ouroumovwedgie, I don't think so: 2163 (process ID) old priority -11, new priority 023:53
borisetowedgie: yeah, i'm not sure too. but why does it happen? Any idea?23:53
ouroumovwedgie, maybe you need sudo to augment priority?23:54
wedgieboriseto: i can renice to 10 as a normal user, but taking the same pid back to 0 gets me Permission denied23:54
borisetohuh23:54
Mozammelhaving a issue to excute ''make oldconfig'' command, is there anybody came up with solution ?23:54
ouroumovWell I've learned something today, thanks boriseto23:54
Mozammelthe output is https://github.com/linux-sunxi/meta-sunxi/issues/7923:54
Mozammelout put is make: *** No rule to make target 'oldconfig'.  Stop.23:54
wedgieboriseto: ah, it seems you can go to higher numbers from lower numbers, but can't go to zero from a higher number23:55
borisetoouroumov: thanking me for my ignorance? <323:55
wedgieboriseto: cause i *can* go from -10 to 0 as an unprivileged user23:55
borisetowedgie: I see...23:55
HexaChopOuroumov, I need help, mate.23:55
ouroumovboriseto, thanking you for asking a question I never though of before. :)23:56
ouroumovHexaChop, with what?23:56
HexaChopOuroumov, CDROM na ubuntu.23:56
HexaChopOuroumov and*23:57
borisetoouroumov: I'm good at finding questions, not so good at finding answers (only in a few occasions).23:57
ouroumovHexaChop, that is an overly vague description of the issue your facing. Please elaborate.23:57
HexaChopOuroumov, whenever I connect CDROM to sata I can't install ubuntu nor launch an already installed version...23:58
HexaChopOuroumov, system simply freezes.23:59
ouroumovHexaChop, why don't you burn an USB key instead?23:59

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