[07:06] <jadew> any ideas if I can get Dolphin to work correctly with soft RAID HDDs?
[07:06] <jadew> it allows me to mount each one individually, which corrupts the RAID
[07:18] <jadew> hi, is there a way to make linux aware of soft RAID?
[07:19] <jadew> I have two disks configured in RAID 1 from the BIOS, but I always get 2 disks showing up under linux
[07:19] <jadew> and if I mount one, it corrupts the RAID
[07:22] <jadew> sorry, wrong channel
[08:29] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:50] <user|81155> hi
[12:38] <frantek> what i need: a rdp session on the right (not left of two) monitor on all desktops in fullscreen mode (without decoration) - any suggestions?
[12:38] <lordievader> Remmina?
[12:39] <frantek> tried it but i was unable to get exactly what i described
[12:41] <frantek> i used cinnamon for some years and there i had a script which started "rdesktop" without decoration in fullscreen mode and there is a gnome tweak (which i don't remember) which shows this windows on all desktops
[12:42] <frantek> one of my basic questions is: how can i show a window without decoration (where the pin for displaying a windows on all desktops lives) on all desktops?
[12:42] <lordievader> How so?
[12:43] <lordievader> What didn't it do?
[12:43] <frantek> well, i will give it a try when im back on the machine where i need this
[12:46] <frantek> next question: where can i find some information about the differences between "ubuntu" and "kubuntu" base system (not GUI etc.) e.g. systemd setup etc. as there have to be differences. on plain ubuntu with kde-desktop installed the bomngar remote controll client installes flawlesslie and on kubuntu it fails ...
[12:48] <lordievader> Between the base system there should be no difference.
[12:48] <lordievader> If you install the Kubuntu-desktop meta package on Ubuntu you get Kubuntu.
[12:49] <frantek> i thougt so too - but there has to be a difference ... ok atleast /etc/lsb-release is different ...
[12:50] <frantek> and now to some thing completely different :-)
[12:50] <lordievader> Sure, there a few minor (visual) differences (splash screen), but that is it.
[12:50] <lordievader> The core is the same.
[12:50] <frantek> i want to use kontact, i use kerio connect server, mail and contacts (carddav) work as expected but the calender does not. i can connect via cal dav but no enties created by thunderbird, android, kerio webclient show up in kontact. entries created in kontact show up every where else - how to fix this ?
[12:52] <frantek> where can i get help?
[12:59] <lordievader> I thought there was a #kontact, but I'm not sure.
[12:59] <lordievader> Ask alis I suppose ;)
[12:59] <lordievader> !alis
[13:02] <spider_x> Hey guys, I am installing Kubuntu for the first time, I see version 16.10 and 16.04.1 LTS
[13:03] <spider_x> I assume the LTS is the recommended one for most users?
[13:05] <mparillo> spider_x: Correct, but I would apply the backports PPA to 16.04.1
[13:05] <mparillo> !backports
[13:07] <spider_x> ok thanks, I have one more question, currently my machine has two OS's (Dual boot) and I would like to install Kubuntu on top of them (whiping both OS's) is it just follow the installer?
[13:08] <spider_x> basically I want to merge the existing partitions and use it for Kubuntu
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:09] <spider_x> Hey, is it possible to initiate Kubuntu install from the live session?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> yes , look in the menu there should be an install kubuntu option
[14:12] <BluesKaj> not exactly sure which category yho
[14:12] <BluesKaj> tho
[14:16] <spider_x> Yep, found it thanks
[15:01] <spider_x> Hey guys, when I go under Additonal drivers it says "Collecting Information about your system" has been like that for some time now?
[15:05] <hateball> spider_x: it's bugged, use the commandline utility "ubuntu-drivers" instead
[15:06] <hateball> spider_x: Is this a fresh 16.04 install? You may want to consider using kubuntu backports PPA as well
[15:08] <spider_x> Yep just did that
[15:09] <spider_x> as for the backport, any source on that?
[15:09] <spider_x> Someone else suggested the same thing
[15:09] <hateball> spider_x: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports && sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:09] <spider_x> Could you explain to me what that does, I mean what does the repository contain?
[15:11] <hateball> spider_x: Updated versions of Plasma stuff
[15:11] <hateball> as what is released with 16.04 is... volatile
[15:12] <spider_x> aha I see, thanks
[15:23] <spider_x> blaah I think I broke something :D
[15:24] <spider_x> it said something about rebooting so I did that and now I boot into black screen
[15:24] <spider_x> and for whatever reason it is giving me the Ubuntu at Grub?
[15:27] <hateball> what did you do before things stopped working then
[15:28] <spider_x> ran the thing you mentioned
[15:28] <hateball> spider_x: and you didnt mess with ubuntu-drivers, only updated to plasma from PPA?
[15:29] <spider_x> well I did indeed mess with that :D
[15:29] <spider_x> so I think something must have gone wrong, I will just reinstall me thinks
[15:30] <spider_x> I will do a clean install and the first thing will be to run the backport stuff
[15:32] <hateball> well if you installed a driver, that's reversible, no need to reinstall
[15:32] <hateball> at worst you can boot with nomodeset and go to tty1 and remove whatever broken driver it was
[15:32] <hateball> spider_x: nVidia or AMD?
[15:32] <spider_x> nvidia
[15:32] <spider_x> but the issue was it wasn't booting at all
[15:33] <spider_x> I mean after the bios boot it went into grub
[15:33] <spider_x> but it is ok, I didn't have anything on it
[15:33] <hateball> spider_x: right. so was this installed with encryption?
[15:33] <hateball> spider_x: and what chipset more specifically
[15:33] <spider_x> Yes
[15:33] <spider_x> I am using the LVM full encryption
[15:34] <spider_x> chipset I have no idea what that is
[15:34] <hateball> you need a fairly new nvidia driver for it to work with encryption
[15:34] <hateball> spider_x: well, is it like "nvidia 1070"
[15:34] <hateball> or is this a laptop?
[15:34] <spider_x> Desktop Nvidia GTX 9707
[15:34] <spider_x> 970*
[15:34] <hateball> spider_x: right, then you like will want a newer driver from the nvidia PPA to have proper functionality
[15:35] <hateball> spider_x:  so instead of using ubuntu-drivers, do: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-375 nvidia-settings
[15:35] <spider_x> ah 375
[15:35] <spider_x> but I do this after the backports stuff, right?
[15:35] <hateball> doesnt really matter, I'd sort the driver first
[15:35] <spider_x> aight
[15:36] <hateball> in case you feel like reinstalling instead of fixing if it should break, less time wasted :p
[15:36] <spider_x> haha true that
[15:36] <hateball> anyhows, I must be off, good luck
[15:36] <spider_x> Yea cya around, thanks :)
[16:10] <yossarianuk> hi people - how do I enable the Intel modesetting DDX driver in Kubuntu ?
[16:10] <ikonia> is that a specical driver ?
[16:10] <ikonia> or just a boot flag
[16:10] <ikonia> I thought it was a bootflag
[16:11] <yossarianuk> its a driver included in xorg.
[16:11] <yossarianuk> in arch you just remove the xf86-video-intel package and reboot
[16:12] <yossarianuk> its faster apparantly -> https://www.dinohensen.nl/linux/modesetting-instead-xf86-video-intel-driver-plus-benchmark/
[16:12] <yossarianuk> + https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/4cojj9/it_is_probably_time_to_ditch_xf86videointel/
[16:12] <ikonia> yossarianuk: I guess we need to know the package of that in ubuntu
[16:13] <yossarianuk> xserver-xorg-video-intel ?>
[16:14] <yossarianuk> just found this -> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Debian-Abandon-Intel-DDX
[16:14] <ikonia> that arch reddit thread is confusing
[16:14] <ikonia> condradicts itself 10 times
[16:14] <yossarianuk> https://tjaalton.wordpress.com/2016/07/23/intel-graphics-gen4-and-newer-now-defaults-to-modesetting-driver-on-x/
[16:17] <marco-parillo> ikonia: If you find an arch thread confusing, try complaining, and see if a whole hour passes before you are told it must be your fault.
[16:17] <ikonia> marco-parillo: the arch guys are good, I think the wording and approach to it is just a little unstructured in that thread
[16:18] <yossarianuk> TO be 100% honest I have usually less issues with Arch than other (stable) distros....
[16:18] <yossarianuk> so looking at that last post it looks like it should be there by default ... I shall check
[16:18] <ikonia> yossarianuk: that driver is intersting, I'd not seen it before
[16:19] <yossarianuk> by the sounds of things it sounds better
[16:19] <ikonia> not convinced looking at that thread, but it looks like it has possibilitys
[16:19] <ikonia> I'd be interested in the mir component
[16:19] <yossarianuk> in my experience (15 yrs) of using Linux desktops its the intel driver (I only ever use KDE/Plasma) is the most unstable
[16:20] <ikonia> really, I've found it to tbe opposite
[16:20] <ikonia> out of many intel desktops and laptops - I've never had a single problem
[16:20] <ikonia> (certainly not that I can remember)
[16:20] <yossarianuk> i.e with plasma4 +5 and on multiple different deskotps and laptops (mainly work ones) the screen goes unusable  - to the point of not being able to see anything
[16:21] <yossarianuk> thats happened over the last 5 -6 years...
[16:22] <yossarianuk> At least 3 desktops and 2 laptops ... Oddly with Nvidia that never happens (not tried AMD/ATI on linux ever)
[16:22] <yossarianuk> that's why i'm interested in trying the other drievr
[16:23] <yossarianuk> I think issues relate to SNA driver ... - i.e -> http://news.softpedia.com/news/critical-intel-graphics-driver-bug-puts-kde-plasma-5-in-a-really-bad-light-488621.shtml
[17:10] <ikonia> yossarianuk: I'll be interested in hearing how you get on with your test
[17:19] <yossarianuk> ikonia: I shall test tonight... btw that link is from a canonical employee .. > https://tjaalton.wordpress.com/2016/07/23/intel-graphics-gen4-and-newer-now-defaults-to-modesetting-driver-on-x/
[19:38] <tarator> Hi, I just noticed, that the QR-Code generator in the clipboard-plasmoid is gone on KDE with Backports enabled. Can I install it somehow?
[19:39] <tarator> Kubuntu 16.04, Kde plasma 5.8.5
[19:40] <BluesKaj> tarator, aha, you use ppas,  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[19:41] <BluesKaj> you might want o look at the staging-plasma anf frameworks ppas again
[19:42] <BluesKaj> to  & and
[19:42] <tarator> BluesKaj: I think I already added the ppa. Would it make sense to add it again?
[19:44] <BluesKaj> ia normally you should use the ppa then delete after getting the packages you want
[19:44] <BluesKaj> tarator,^
[19:45] <BluesKaj> ppas left unatteneded can sometimes bring packages not ready for use
[19:45] <tarator> ok, why delete it after that? But anyway, by adding it again, there should be a newer version of kde for Kubuntu 16.04?
[19:46] <tarator> Ok, I thought the backports ppa is stable somehow?
[19:46] <BluesKaj> plasma is now the version number kde is just the platform
[19:47] <BluesKaj> backports themselves are , not the ppas , don't confuse them
[19:48] <BluesKaj> it's a poor choice  of names, but they make the rules
[19:48] <tarator> Ok, thanks for the tip, I didn't know that. So after adding the ppa and updating the system i should remove the ppa?
[19:49] <BluesKaj> yes , any developer will confirm that as good practice
[19:49] <tarator> Thanks for your help anyway, but I don' want to tinker around with my computer right now. I need to get things done. I was just missing the nice QR-Code Generator....
[19:49] <acheronuk> tarator: not advisable to add our staging ppas unless you are asked to by the development team to test things
[19:50] <tarator> Is ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports a staging ppa?
[19:50] <acheronuk> tarator: and I don't think you will find a fix for your issue there anyway
[19:50] <acheronuk> tarator: no, that one is fine
[19:51] <tarator> acheronuk: Ok thanks, I originally even didn't want to install the backports, but the Plsama desktop delivered with Kubuntu 16.04 was unaceptable for production use. It had some eally nasty bugs....
[19:51] <tarator> (mainly the Multi-Display-Feature didn't work at all for me)
[19:52] <BluesKaj> poor old 16.04 still has issues...as does 16.10
[19:52] <tarator> Thanks for your help guys! I will give qtqr a try....
[19:53] <acheronuk> tarator: KDE have updated the minimum version of the required KF5prison library required for barcode/QR support. unfortunate we don't yet have a new enough version to build plamsa against in our repositories, as it's waiting on some other non kde packages to land in the ubuntu archive
[19:53] <tarator> BluesKaj: I'm using Kde since version 7.? and with the 16.4 release I wanted to abandon Kubuntu....
[19:53] <tarator> but I'm too lazy to install another system....
[19:54] <acheronuk> hopefully the next time we update plasma that will have got there, and it can come back
[19:54] <tarator> acheronuk: I can live without it, I just hoped I missed to install a package or something. Thanks for your help!
[19:55] <acheronuk> yes, it's a little annoying, but as said, it's waiting on some stuff outside our direct control
[19:55] <tarator> This is really sad for an enduser, when nice features disappear with an update. I remember the KIPI-Plugins gone in Gwenview(?) still missing them!
[19:56] <BluesKaj> tarator, , acheronuk is one of our esteemed deveopers so now you have up to date info :-)
[19:57] <BluesKaj> ok time to boot back into zesty
[19:57] <acheronuk> not an excuse, but unfortunately upstream developers often want to use the latest version of libraries with the shiniest new features, but distributions sometime don't have the dependencies yet to build them. and then it takes a little while for things to catch up
[22:09] <warmachine> salut tlm
[22:38] <[Relic]> !wayland