| daftykins | found diddledan http://imgur.com/gallery/tHX9WZp | 00:59 |
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| zmoylan-pi | changing the name of yahoo... that'll fix things right up | 01:30 |
| daftykins | no way? | 01:31 |
| zmoylan-pi | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13360673 | 01:33 |
| zmoylan-1i | i always feel renaming the company is somehow pretending to not be the same organisation before in a deceptive manner... silly i know | 01:37 |
| daftykins | wow | 01:38 |
| === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi | ||
| knightwise | good morning | 06:49 |
| knightwise | morning jodh | 07:15 |
| jodh | knightwise: morning | 07:45 |
| SuperMatt | morning | 07:58 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 09:04 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:12 |
| knightwise | hey brobostigon | 09:23 |
| knightwise | how are you doing today ? | 09:24 |
| brobostigon | hi knightwise, alittle tired, but thats normal day after first shift in a new job. | 09:24 |
| brobostigon | and you? | 09:24 |
| knightwise | hooodd | 09:32 |
| knightwise | Sorry , typo . I'm doing ok :) How did the first shift go ? | 09:33 |
| foobarry | new job work stamina takes a while to build up | 09:33 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Peculiar People Day! 😃 | 09:37 |
| === geheimni1` is now known as geheimnis` | ||
| brobostigon | knightwise: it went well, thanks. | 09:47 |
| brobostigon | foobarry: yes, very true, | 09:47 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCoCNCJFS7A got you covered dude | 09:50 |
| === Victor is now known as Guest53487 | ||
| knightwise | brobostigon: whats the new job all about ? | 10:20 |
| brobostigon | knightwise: shop floor and till in a toy shop. | 10:20 |
| davmor2 | brobostigon: say what now? It's not the Lego Shop is it :) | 10:24 |
| brobostigon | davmor2: if only, :) | 10:25 |
| diddledan | https://twitter.com/nicolabortignon/status/818761666083090432 | 10:34 |
| diddledan | wow, the C.H.I.P is a lot of computer for 9$ | 10:44 |
| diddledan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FuDWQwA0dI | 10:44 |
| diddledan | only 512MB ram though, but other than that it's comparable to the pi3 | 10:45 |
| TwistedLucidity | Fancied getting myself a pocketCHIP a whileback; never did. | 11:17 |
| diddledan | ransoms being demanded for data in mongodb servers: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38521973 | 11:21 |
| zmoylan-pi | see, if they had stored their data in csv files like nature intended... :-P | 11:24 |
| diddledan | can anyone else currently play the mp3 version of latenightlinux? http://latenightlinux.com/ | 12:13 |
| diddledan | I'm getting network error | 12:13 |
| === Victor is now known as Guest15127 | ||
| popey | diddledan: you on telegram? they have a telegram channel | 12:18 |
| diddledan | I'm not | 12:18 |
| * diddledan goes to see what is required to sign-up | 12:18 | |
| popey | As if by magic | 12:19 |
| JoeRess | Hello | 12:19 |
| * popey pokes diddledan with JoeRess | 12:19 | |
| diddledan | aha, hello JoeRess | 12:19 |
| JoeRess | Hi | 12:19 |
| JoeRess | Can you download it? | 12:20 |
| diddledan | weirdly, I can if I get the url using curl first - but clicking the download link in chrome is failing | 12:20 |
| JoeRess | http://latenightlinux.com/media/LNL01.mp3 | 12:21 |
| diddledan | I used `curl -I http://podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/latenightlinux.com/media/LNL01.mp3HTTP` to get that url | 12:21 |
| JoeRess | Does that work in Chrome? | 12:21 |
| popey | it does here | 12:22 |
| diddledan | yeah the direct link works, but for unknown reason the redirector/tracker link in chrome doesn't work | 12:22 |
| diddledan | the tracker link in curl does work, though, which is confusing | 12:22 |
| diddledan | hmm, I wonder if it's an IPv6 issue | 12:23 |
| * diddledan checks | 12:23 | |
| diddledan | ok, it seems there might be an intermittent problem on podtrac's end - I just received HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | 12:24 |
| JoeRess | It works in Chrome for me :/ | 12:24 |
| diddledan | that was using `curl -4 -I http://podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/latenightlinux.com/media/LNL01.mp3HTTP` | 12:24 |
| diddledan | oh, I borked the url | 12:25 |
| * diddledan repastes | 12:25 | |
| diddledan | in chrome I'm getting redirected but then it fails with Failed - Network error when using the "download" link | 12:26 |
| diddledan | aah. https | 12:27 |
| diddledan | chrome thinks it should be downloading the mp3 via https | 12:27 |
| JoeRess | Why would it think that? | 12:27 |
| diddledan | ok, I figured it out | 12:28 |
| diddledan | I have https-everywhere installed which is forcing the podtrac url to be loaded securely which then causes the returned direct url to also be https | 12:29 |
| diddledan | using https for the podtrac url (https://podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/latenightlinux.com/media/LNL01.mp3) in curl returns: Location: https://latenightlinux.com/media/LNL01.mp3 | 12:29 |
| JoeRess | This means I will have to sort out let's encrypt. :( | 12:30 |
| diddledan | :-( | 12:30 |
| * diddledan hides | 12:31 | |
| diddledan | it's a bit odd that podtrac is redirecting to a url that you didn't configure it to use though | 12:32 |
| diddledan | i.e. https rather than http when podtrac is loaded via ssl | 12:32 |
| JoeRess | Podtrac has many failings | 12:35 |
| JoeRess | Their servers run Windows for example | 12:40 |
| diddledan | yeah I noticed the tell-tale Server: Microsoft-IIS/8.5 in curl response :-p | 12:41 |
| diddledan | they're on amazon by the looks. so at least they have "cloud" checked-off the marketing checklist | 12:43 |
| JoeRess | Their dev is usually fairly responsive on Twitter so we'll see what he says | 12:45 |
| diddledan | ooh, I like these predictions | 13:12 |
| diddledan | just got onto the worldwide internet outage | 13:12 |
| diddledan | so we're considering all-out cyberwar at this point I guess? | 13:12 |
| diddledan | oh god, sorry, I regret using the word cyber. because the cyber is so big now | 13:13 |
| diddledan | telegram has a naughty picture on their homepage: https://telegram.org/img/tl_card_open.gif | 13:24 |
| foobarry | from the bears perspective maybe | 13:32 |
| SuperMatt | That's a very odd picture | 13:33 |
| SuperMatt | But I like the graphical style | 13:33 |
| diddledan | all their imagery is custom-designed by the looks | 13:34 |
| diddledan | they all follow the same style | 13:34 |
| popey | they walk close to the line a lot | 13:40 |
| popey | they announced a new feature in telegram and used an image of a half naked women to promote it | 13:40 |
| popey | that image then disappeared and a new one (of the same woman) appeared, with more clothing | 13:41 |
| m0nkey_ | wow. my switch under my desk just failed. | 13:47 |
| foobarry | can i still use the apache "combined" format to log search engine request strings? | 13:47 |
| foobarry | haven't done it for 10 years | 13:47 |
| diddledan | foobarry: yes and no - if your site isn't running https then you'll not get any referrer info from the search engines because they _are_ running https so your browser doesn't send the previous page to protect privacy on non-secure connections | 13:50 |
| foobarry | thanks diddledan thats a new thing since 2005 :P | 13:51 |
| diddledan | :-D | 13:51 |
| diddledan | yey. google rock. they've put a nice big red screen of phishing on an official government website I worked on | 15:00 |
| diddledan | presumably because it isn't a .gov.uk domain | 15:00 |
| SuperMatt | Well, were you phishing everyone that went there? | 15:00 |
| zmoylan-pi | maybe they were phishing some other country... :-P | 15:01 |
| SuperMatt | s/went/worked | 15:01 |
| diddledan | no, there's no phishing involved | 15:07 |
| SuperMatt | TBH, when I was at Rackspace I constantly had clients that were accused of phishing, but mostly because someone would exploit a vulnerability in a wordpress plugin to upload a naughty script or seven | 15:08 |
| diddledan | I really do think tumbleweed is a bad name for opensuse's thingy | 15:08 |
| zmoylan-pi | maybe it confused google as there were no adverts all over it? :-P | 15:08 |
| SuperMatt | hurr | 15:08 |
| SuperMatt | My number one tool was to run "find . -mtime -30" | 15:09 |
| diddledan | "YEY, OpenSuse release a major new update... *tumbleweed*" | 15:09 |
| SuperMatt | I would often find the newly uuploaded script in a few minutes | 15:09 |
| diddledan | the site in question is running an entirely bespoke piece of software | 15:10 |
| diddledan | so if it has been hacked then it would have to have been very targeted | 15:11 |
| SuperMatt | fair enough | 15:17 |
| m0nkey_ | Last time I tried SuSE, I couldn't figure out how to install any packages. | 15:21 |
| diddledan | yast | 15:24 |
| SuperMatt | zypper | 15:24 |
| SuperMatt | My big problem with Suse was that their equivalent of PPAs was nowhere near as good as ppas | 15:25 |
| SuperMatt | and a lot of things just didn't exist in the main repos, so you hand to rely on their second class system | 15:25 |
| m0nkey_ | heh, and there was me trying to use yum, since it's rpm based. lol | 15:27 |
| m0nkey_ | shows you how long ago i used suse | 15:27 |
| * diddledan watches the suse tumbleweed roll past the desolate abandoned town | 15:29 | |
| diddledan | see, totally a bad name | 15:29 |
| m0nkey_ | who actually uses suse these days? | 15:29 |
| diddledan | opensuse, not sure, but I think businesses might use SLES still (mostly european companies 'cos american and elsewhere use RHEL) | 15:30 |
| diddledan | I don't know whether anyone ever used SLED (the desktop equiv of SLES) | 15:32 |
| SuperMatt | Some people rely on SLES for packaging Red Hat patches | 15:37 |
| SuperMatt | I like yast in principle, but in the end I just think that Fedora is the most balanced distro between being bleeding edge and stable | 15:38 |
| SuperMatt | Ubuntu lost its bleeding edge when it stopped tracking behind gnome | 15:40 |
| jezster | Ubuntu seems fine for me, given that I'm just returning to Linux desktop use. | 16:06 |
| SuperMatt | I've spent quite a few years jumping around, until I finally landed on Fedora. I think it has something to do with using it for my jobs in enterprise, making it the logical choice to stay abreast with changes | 16:08 |
| jezster | I've recently been given a nice little X220 Lenovo and it's almost perfect for me use ... I have to wonder if Budgie will fix my last few issues. | 16:08 |
| jezster | Fedora is excellent, but I guess I'm used to CrunchBang/Ubuntu/Debian/etc... | 16:10 |
| SuperMatt | took me a little while to get used to Fedora, but now I have, it just seems the correct fit for me | 16:11 |
| diddledan | SuperMatt: what's wayland like? :-D | 16:14 |
| SuperMatt | It works | 16:14 |
| diddledan | yey | 16:14 |
| SuperMatt | If I didn't know they'd made the change, I wouldn't have guessed | 16:14 |
| diddledan | gotta love when stuff works | 16:14 |
| diddledan | nice | 16:15 |
| SuperMatt | I haven't tried any xforwarding though | 16:15 |
| diddledan | I suppose there's forwarding X from server to wayland client and vicky verky | 16:15 |
| SuperMatt | I think there's something like that going on | 16:16 |
| SuperMatt | but meh | 16:16 |
| diddledan | would be interesting to see if there's a difference in behaviour depending on direction | 16:16 |
| SuperMatt | Most of what I do requires a terminal, and no forwarding | 16:16 |
| SuperMatt | anyway, it's home time | 16:16 |
| SuperMatt | so peace out, yo | 16:16 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 16:16 |
| diddledan | oh dear: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-38565913 | 17:38 |
| daftykins | no biggy, hideous device :) | 17:38 |
| daftykins | oy at folk that don't read your emails properly and so reply with the wrong conclusion | 17:39 |
| daftykins | must be that manx fella redtaperenegade i'm dealing with for my gas bills (since the parent company is up there these days) :D | 17:40 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcP98zlwojE&t=0s | 17:43 |
| daftykins | i think he worked out what it is from the story of it being stolen? | 17:47 |
| MartijnVdS | Razer announced that it was indeed those prototypeds | 17:50 |
| daftykins | MartijnVdS: sure you don't work at a gas company? ;) | 17:57 |
| MartijnVdS | Oh you're not talking about the triple screened laptop anymore? | 18:02 |
| daftykins | just getting at how you seem to pay as much attention as the bloke from the gas co. who read my first email | 18:03 |
| marshmn | if I have both wired and WiFi networks connected, does Ubuntu only use the wired interface? | 18:57 |
| popey | it uses whatever is default route | 18:59 |
| popey | well, default with higest metric | 18:59 |
| marshmn | hmm | 19:00 |
| marshmn | so for mine it will be using WiFi I guess (has a metric of 600 compared to 100 for the wired) | 19:00 |
| diddledan | anyone seen this thingy? https://www.crowdsupply.com/raptor-computing-systems/talos-secure-workstation | 19:00 |
| popey | s/highest/lowest/ I think. | 19:00 |
| marshmn | ah | 19:00 |
| daftykins | yeah low metric = priority interface | 19:01 |
| marshmn | ok | 19:01 |
| popey | i just tested this by running iperf -s on my server, and iperf -c on my laptop | 19:01 |
| marshmn | how is the metric determined? | 19:01 |
| daftykins | interface type | 19:01 |
| marshmn | I see | 19:01 |
| popey | there's rules | 19:01 |
| marshmn | OK, so it will prioritize wired - which sounds good... | 19:01 |
| marshmn | thanks :-) | 19:01 |
| popey | np | 19:01 |
| daftykins | ideally though you just wouldn't run both | 19:01 |
| marshmn | ok - why is it bad? | 19:02 |
| daftykins | no idea if it'd switch if you had some transfers / communications in process | 19:02 |
| popey | depends on the app | 19:02 |
| popey | mosh does | 19:02 |
| marshmn | I see | 19:02 |
| daftykins | e.g. browsing online, streaming something, then plug in your cable | 19:02 |
| popey | i frequently switch during the day between wifi and both | 19:02 |
| popey | not sure if I ever have stuff streaming tho | 19:03 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/23777617/ too many interfaces :) | 19:03 |
| daftykins | yeah that's why i added that caveat | 19:05 |
| marshmn | is it possible to control the volume from Ubuntu when the audio is connected through HDMI? | 19:46 |
| MartijnVdS | yes | 19:48 |
| daftykins | if it's stereo, sure | 19:48 |
| marshmn | OK | 19:49 |
| daftykins | Mr.Kipling prices have gone up!? :( | 20:08 |
| zmoylan-pi | well... until they can source a local source for pineapples and other ingredients... | 20:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | japanese amateurs are going to try and launch a nano sat in a few mins... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55ouemR6bbk | 23:46 |
| zmoylan-pi | looks like it's been scrubbed... :-( | 23:47 |
| daftykins | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVjop01FGrA yay Louis | 23:52 |
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