[00:59] found diddledan http://imgur.com/gallery/tHX9WZp [01:30] changing the name of yahoo... that'll fix things right up [01:31] no way? [01:33] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13360673 [01:37] i always feel renaming the company is somehow pretending to not be the same organisation before in a deceptive manner... silly i know [01:38] wow === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [06:49] good morning [07:15] morning jodh [07:45] knightwise: morning [07:58] morning [09:04] Morning all [09:12] morning boys and girls. [09:23] hey brobostigon [09:24] how are you doing today ? [09:24] hi knightwise, alittle tired, but thats normal day after first shift in a new job. [09:24] and you? [09:32] hooodd [09:33] Sorry , typo . I'm doing ok :) How did the first shift go ? [09:33] new job work stamina takes a while to build up [09:37] Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Peculiar People Day! 😃 === geheimni1` is now known as geheimnis` [09:47] knightwise: it went well, thanks. [09:47] foobarry: yes, very true, [09:50] JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCoCNCJFS7A got you covered dude === Victor is now known as Guest53487 [10:20] brobostigon: whats the new job all about ? [10:20] knightwise: shop floor and till in a toy shop. [10:24] brobostigon: say what now? It's not the Lego Shop is it :) [10:25] davmor2: if only, :) [10:34] https://twitter.com/nicolabortignon/status/818761666083090432 [10:44] wow, the C.H.I.P is a lot of computer for 9$ [10:44] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FuDWQwA0dI [10:45] only 512MB ram though, but other than that it's comparable to the pi3 [11:17] Fancied getting myself a pocketCHIP a whileback; never did. [11:21] ransoms being demanded for data in mongodb servers: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38521973 [11:24] see, if they had stored their data in csv files like nature intended... :-P [12:13] can anyone else currently play the mp3 version of latenightlinux? http://latenightlinux.com/ [12:13] I'm getting network error === Victor is now known as Guest15127 [12:18] diddledan: you on telegram? they have a telegram channel [12:18] I'm not [12:18] * diddledan goes to see what is required to sign-up [12:19] As if by magic [12:19] Hello [12:19] * popey pokes diddledan with JoeRess [12:19] aha, hello JoeRess [12:19] Hi [12:20] Can you download it? [12:20] weirdly, I can if I get the url using curl first - but clicking the download link in chrome is failing [12:21] http://latenightlinux.com/media/LNL01.mp3 [12:21] I used `curl -I http://podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/latenightlinux.com/media/LNL01.mp3HTTP` to get that url [12:21] Does that work in Chrome? [12:22] it does here [12:22] yeah the direct link works, but for unknown reason the redirector/tracker link in chrome doesn't work [12:22] the tracker link in curl does work, though, which is confusing [12:23] hmm, I wonder if it's an IPv6 issue [12:23] * diddledan checks [12:24] ok, it seems there might be an intermittent problem on podtrac's end - I just received HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden [12:24] It works in Chrome for me :/ [12:24] that was using `curl -4 -I http://podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/latenightlinux.com/media/LNL01.mp3HTTP` [12:25] oh, I borked the url [12:25] * diddledan repastes [12:26] in chrome I'm getting redirected but then it fails with Failed - Network error when using the "download" link [12:27] aah. https [12:27] chrome thinks it should be downloading the mp3 via https [12:27] Why would it think that? [12:28] ok, I figured it out [12:29] I have https-everywhere installed which is forcing the podtrac url to be loaded securely which then causes the returned direct url to also be https [12:29] using https for the podtrac url (https://podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/latenightlinux.com/media/LNL01.mp3) in curl returns: Location: https://latenightlinux.com/media/LNL01.mp3 [12:30] This means I will have to sort out let's encrypt. :( [12:30] :-( [12:31] * diddledan hides [12:32] it's a bit odd that podtrac is redirecting to a url that you didn't configure it to use though [12:32] i.e. https rather than http when podtrac is loaded via ssl [12:35] Podtrac has many failings [12:40] Their servers run Windows for example [12:41] yeah I noticed the tell-tale Server: Microsoft-IIS/8.5 in curl response :-p [12:43] they're on amazon by the looks. so at least they have "cloud" checked-off the marketing checklist [12:45] Their dev is usually fairly responsive on Twitter so we'll see what he says [13:12] ooh, I like these predictions [13:12] just got onto the worldwide internet outage [13:12] so we're considering all-out cyberwar at this point I guess? [13:13] oh god, sorry, I regret using the word cyber. because the cyber is so big now [13:24] telegram has a naughty picture on their homepage: https://telegram.org/img/tl_card_open.gif [13:32] from the bears perspective maybe [13:33] That's a very odd picture [13:33] But I like the graphical style [13:34] all their imagery is custom-designed by the looks [13:34] they all follow the same style [13:40] they walk close to the line a lot [13:40] they announced a new feature in telegram and used an image of a half naked women to promote it [13:41] that image then disappeared and a new one (of the same woman) appeared, with more clothing [13:47] wow. my switch under my desk just failed. [13:47] can i still use the apache "combined" format to log search engine request strings? [13:47] haven't done it for 10 years [13:50] foobarry: yes and no - if your site isn't running https then you'll not get any referrer info from the search engines because they _are_ running https so your browser doesn't send the previous page to protect privacy on non-secure connections [13:51] thanks diddledan thats a new thing since 2005 :P [13:51] :-D [15:00] yey. google rock. they've put a nice big red screen of phishing on an official government website I worked on [15:00] presumably because it isn't a .gov.uk domain [15:00] Well, were you phishing everyone that went there? [15:01] maybe they were phishing some other country... :-P [15:01] s/went/worked [15:07] no, there's no phishing involved [15:08] TBH, when I was at Rackspace I constantly had clients that were accused of phishing, but mostly because someone would exploit a vulnerability in a wordpress plugin to upload a naughty script or seven [15:08] I really do think tumbleweed is a bad name for opensuse's thingy [15:08] maybe it confused google as there were no adverts all over it? :-P [15:08] hurr [15:09] My number one tool was to run "find . -mtime -30" [15:09] "YEY, OpenSuse release a major new update... *tumbleweed*" [15:09] I would often find the newly uuploaded script in a few minutes [15:10] the site in question is running an entirely bespoke piece of software [15:11] so if it has been hacked then it would have to have been very targeted [15:17] fair enough [15:21] Last time I tried SuSE, I couldn't figure out how to install any packages. [15:24] yast [15:24] zypper [15:25] My big problem with Suse was that their equivalent of PPAs was nowhere near as good as ppas [15:25] and a lot of things just didn't exist in the main repos, so you hand to rely on their second class system [15:27] heh, and there was me trying to use yum, since it's rpm based. lol [15:27] shows you how long ago i used suse [15:29] * diddledan watches the suse tumbleweed roll past the desolate abandoned town [15:29] see, totally a bad name [15:29] who actually uses suse these days? [15:30] opensuse, not sure, but I think businesses might use SLES still (mostly european companies 'cos american and elsewhere use RHEL) [15:32] I don't know whether anyone ever used SLED (the desktop equiv of SLES) [15:37] Some people rely on SLES for packaging Red Hat patches [15:38] I like yast in principle, but in the end I just think that Fedora is the most balanced distro between being bleeding edge and stable [15:40] Ubuntu lost its bleeding edge when it stopped tracking behind gnome [16:06] Ubuntu seems fine for me, given that I'm just returning to Linux desktop use. [16:08] I've spent quite a few years jumping around, until I finally landed on Fedora. I think it has something to do with using it for my jobs in enterprise, making it the logical choice to stay abreast with changes [16:08] I've recently been given a nice little X220 Lenovo and it's almost perfect for me use ... I have to wonder if Budgie will fix my last few issues. [16:10] Fedora is excellent, but I guess I'm used to CrunchBang/Ubuntu/Debian/etc... [16:11] took me a little while to get used to Fedora, but now I have, it just seems the correct fit for me [16:14] SuperMatt: what's wayland like? :-D [16:14] It works [16:14] yey [16:14] If I didn't know they'd made the change, I wouldn't have guessed [16:14] gotta love when stuff works [16:15] nice [16:15] I haven't tried any xforwarding though [16:15] I suppose there's forwarding X from server to wayland client and vicky verky [16:16] I think there's something like that going on [16:16] but meh [16:16] would be interesting to see if there's a difference in behaviour depending on direction [16:16] Most of what I do requires a terminal, and no forwarding [16:16] anyway, it's home time [16:16] so peace out, yo [16:16] \o/ [17:38] oh dear: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-38565913 [17:38] no biggy, hideous device :) [17:39] oy at folk that don't read your emails properly and so reply with the wrong conclusion [17:40] must be that manx fella redtaperenegade i'm dealing with for my gas bills (since the parent company is up there these days) :D [17:43] diddledan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcP98zlwojE&t=0s [17:47] i think he worked out what it is from the story of it being stolen? [17:50] Razer announced that it was indeed those prototypeds [17:57] MartijnVdS: sure you don't work at a gas company? ;) [18:02] Oh you're not talking about the triple screened laptop anymore? [18:03] just getting at how you seem to pay as much attention as the bloke from the gas co. who read my first email [18:57] if I have both wired and WiFi networks connected, does Ubuntu only use the wired interface? [18:59] it uses whatever is default route [18:59] well, default with higest metric [19:00] hmm [19:00] so for mine it will be using WiFi I guess (has a metric of 600 compared to 100 for the wired) [19:00] anyone seen this thingy? https://www.crowdsupply.com/raptor-computing-systems/talos-secure-workstation [19:00] s/highest/lowest/ I think. [19:00] ah [19:01] yeah low metric = priority interface [19:01] ok [19:01] i just tested this by running iperf -s on my server, and iperf -c on my laptop [19:01] how is the metric determined? [19:01] interface type [19:01] I see [19:01] there's rules [19:01] OK, so it will prioritize wired - which sounds good... [19:01] thanks :-) [19:01] np [19:01] ideally though you just wouldn't run both [19:02] ok - why is it bad? [19:02] no idea if it'd switch if you had some transfers / communications in process [19:02] depends on the app [19:02] mosh does [19:02] I see [19:02] e.g. browsing online, streaming something, then plug in your cable [19:02] i frequently switch during the day between wifi and both [19:03] not sure if I ever have stuff streaming tho [19:03] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23777617/ too many interfaces :) [19:05] yeah that's why i added that caveat [19:46] is it possible to control the volume from Ubuntu when the audio is connected through HDMI? [19:48] yes [19:48] if it's stereo, sure [19:49] OK [20:08] Mr.Kipling prices have gone up!? :( [20:09] well... until they can source a local source for pineapples and other ingredients... [23:46] japanese amateurs are going to try and launch a nano sat in a few mins... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55ouemR6bbk [23:47] looks like it's been scrubbed... :-( [23:52] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVjop01FGrA yay Louis