[00:49] <poco_> Hey all so I'm having some serious issues with sound. I can get my device to test fine but no audio in any app other than spotify
[00:49] <poco_> I have tried uninstalling pulseaudio and alsa too
[00:51] <poco_> wait just got sound... but not in steam games :/
[01:17] <Donald_ET3> How do you set a static IP address in Kubuntu? It seems like almost every distro has a graphical utility for doing that, but I can't find it in Kubuntu.
[01:21] <hazamonzo> Donald_ET3: The Network manager in the bottom right of the default taskbar?
[01:22] <Donald_ET3> Oh, hey, there it is! I didn't expect to find it there.
[01:23] <hazamonzo> :s
[01:24] <Donald_ET3> In other distros I always found it somewhere in system settings.
[02:41] <valorie> poco_: you were having problems with sound, so you removed the things that give you sound?
[02:42] <valorie> !sound | poco_
[02:43] <poco_> ubottu, I ended up getting it to work by installing pulse audio volume control
[02:43] <poco_> ah thank you robot
[02:44] <poco_> thank you for checking valorie
[02:44] <hay3650> I'm having difficulty getting conky-manager to work in kubuntu 16.04 .. my google searches have been fruitless
[02:44] <valorie> !info conky
[02:44] <hay3650> the widget flickers and does wierd things to the desktop
[02:45] <valorie> strange, I know a lot of people use that
[02:45] <valorie> I use the built-in system monitor
[02:45] <hay3650> maybe it is because im still new to linux, but all the google searches point towards a conkyrc file
[02:45] <valorie> or plasma widgets
[02:45] <hay3650> which I cannot find on my system
[02:46] <valorie> in ~/.config?
[02:46] <valorie> or ~/.local
[02:47] <hay3650> Ill give those a try, thanks for the tip
[02:47] <hay3650> i used catfish to do the search, and also enabled hidden files in dolphin.
[02:48] <hay3650> ill give it another attempt. Thanks !
[02:48] <valorie> best of luck, hay3650
[07:39] <xdk78> hi
[07:39] <hateball> greetings
[08:38] <spider_x> Hey guys, not sure how to explain to google but you know how you have the task bar in the bottom on KDE, is it possible to have the taskbar panel only show what windows are active on that monitor?
[08:39] <spider_x> I have three monitors and each monitor has a panel of its own, however currently all 3 monitors display all the active windows.
[09:10] <hateball> spider_x: yes, rightclick the panel
[09:10] <hateball> spider_x: settings for task manager, and there's checkboxes for exactly that
[09:12] <spider_x> Thank you hateball :)
[09:12] <hateball> :)
[09:12] <hateball> spider_x: oh right, you were here yesterday. I take it you got everything sorted then
[09:14] <spider_x> Yea, had some hickups with the full-upgrade thing but manage to fix it without reinstalling this time :D
[09:14] <spider_x> but the error was indeed caused by the LVM full encryption, so just removed that
[09:16] <hateball> well, you should be able to get that working as well if you really need it
[09:17] <hateball> Someone once said: Unless you are prepared to lose your data, don't use encryption
[09:20] <Smurphy> hateball: well. You loose your data if you don't know what you do.
[09:21] <Smurphy> I encrypt all my data/partitions, and have backups.
[09:21] <Smurphy> So far, the only data I lost is the one on the devices that have been stolen. And in that specific case, I was very happy encryption was active!
[09:22] <hateball> ;)
[09:34] <Smurphy> back to work :(
[09:43] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[09:43] <Smurphy> Morning
[09:45] <BluesKaj> 'Morning smu
[09:45] <BluesKaj> Smurphy
[09:46] <BluesKaj> still a bit early
[09:46] <Smurphy> yeah. Late morning here :)
[09:47] <BluesKaj> not quite 5AM here...
[09:51] <Smurphy> too early man...
[09:51] <Smurphy> I need my beauty sleep :D
[09:53] <BluesKaj> probly get more sleep later...very stormy here, ..wind is howling, keeping me awake
[09:54] <Smurphy> Where you at?
[09:54] <Smurphy> France/ North of Paris here... Raining. No wind, 10C ... :}
[09:57] <BluesKaj> Canada here, 400KM North of Toronto -3C ...snowed 15cm
[10:01] <BluesKaj> I won't be pushing any snow, we have a contract with a snow clearng service
[10:08] <Smurphy> Cool :)
[10:08] <Smurphy> Canada... I think I'll have make a tour there in summer time with my girls once :) After we did Japan.
[10:15] <spider_x> Yea, I am not too worried about the computer being stolen, my laptop however is fully encrypted
[10:16] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, nce
[10:16] <BluesKaj> nice even
[10:17] <lordievader> spider_x: I have the same policy, if a machine leaves my room often it should be encrypted.
[10:43] <spider_x> Yea exactly lordievader no point handing the data over so easily :D
[10:44] <lordievader> Too bad Windows doesn't do Luks.
[10:44] <spider_x> I have gone away from using Windows all together.
[10:46] <spider_x> was expecting kubuntu to be clunky but so far running pretty smooth
[10:46] <lordievader> I keep it around for a few applications.
[10:47] <spider_x> Yea I did too but then for whatever reason I upgraded to the aniversary update and everything went south from there
[10:47] <spider_x> would constantly get 100% usage
[10:51] <Smurphy> spider_x: Remove the plasma widgets on the Desktop. They are the ones using up all CPU.
[10:51] <Smurphy> I have plasma 5.8.1 here, and no widgets on the desktop. Very smooth.
[10:51] <spider_x> oh Smurphy I have 0 issues on Kubuntu currently :D
[10:52] <spider_x> Smurphy: do you use the Panel in the bottom?
[10:53] <Smurphy> yes.
[10:53] <Smurphy> Dual-screen setup.
[11:01] <spider_x> yea same
[11:08] <hateball> For some reason I use panels up top at work, and bottom at home
[11:09] <hateball> But everything works properly regardless, so that's not too bad I guess
[11:11] <spider_x> haha, I guess it is to distinguish work from joy?
[11:13] <user|43600> I am trying to install kubuntu 16.10 via flash drive, i have tried 4 times with different partings at the end of the setup it throws error to me
[11:13] <user|43600> guys please help me out
[11:13] <spider_x> Can you tell anything about the error you are getting user|43600 ?
[11:13] <user|43600> woah,,
[11:13] <user|43600> this community is magical
[11:13] <user|43600> it got solved
[11:13] <user|43600> :D
[11:13] <spider_x> You are welcome!
[11:13] <spider_x> :D
[11:13] <user|43600> Anyways thanks crew.!
[11:22] <yossarianuk> hi - I am running 16.10 + PPA, I have dual monitor - when I press windows (super) key to start kmenu when on 2nd monitor kmenu opens in the primary screen, anyway of making the windows/super key open kmenu on the screen I am using ?
[11:23] <yossarianuk> probably one for #plasma ?
[11:28] <hateball> yossarianuk: fwiw i have the same behavior in 16.04 + backports, so seems #plasma
[11:32] <yossarianuk> asked in #plasma and its meant to happen...
[11:32] <yossarianuk> ' yeah with plasma being so flexible, you could have 30 panels on 5 screens with 20 launchers, so we had to pick some kind of "thing that works for most people" :/'
[11:32] <yossarianuk> fair enough...
[11:35] <ikonia> at least you get a response thats "sorry it's not rocket science but it seems the best compromise"
[11:35] <ikonia> it's nice to see an honest response
[11:36] <yossarianuk> yes it is
[11:36] <yossarianuk> the kde/plasma community are ace
[11:37] <yossarianuk> I guess this is one thing that Gnome got right (Ii.e the menu shortcut works on correct screen) - but I still think gnome isn't really made for a desktop (kde is)
[11:52] <hateball> do most people use the menu I wonder, as I use nothing but krunner + shortcuts myself
[11:53] <spider_x> I use the menu for quick accessing
[11:53] <spider_x> but then again only been using Kubuntu for a day
[11:53] <hateball> alt+space -> type something, is faster than reaching for the mouse for me at least
[11:55] <spider_x> You dont need to reach for the mouse, you just press windows keys and type and use arrows to navigate
[11:56] <hateball> I guess that is true yes
[12:14] <spider_x> but thanks for the alt+space one, much easier ;D
[12:15] <lordievader> I rarely use the menu.
[12:15] <lordievader> Usually only when I either don't have a keyboard shortcut or can't find the (gui) application I'm looking for.
[13:18] <spider_x> Yea lordievader I am trying to utilize the full power of CLI :D
[14:12] <kisin> hallo. What can i do, when i have not xorg.conf at my kubuntu 16.04 ? Just create it at /etc/X11 ??
[14:13] <yossarianuk> kisin: yes - why do you need one though ?
[14:15] <yossarianuk> (I know there are various reasons you might...)
[14:16] <kisin> I use nvidia driver. And when i set resolution according to my monitor (ASUS 16:10) and then i want look onto fullscreen vide from web broswer, is at monitr part green without video.
[14:16] <yossarianuk> hmm doesn't sound good.. what player ?
[14:18] <yossarianuk> also do you have latest driver (375.26) - if not i'd try upgrading first
[14:19] <kisin> For example everithing at http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ivysilani/... youtube is ok
[14:20] <kisin> I can´t upgrade. I have old card and last suportet driver is 340.98
[14:20] <kisin> nvidia setting alloved at ViewPortOut just 1360x760
[14:21] <kisin>  and monitr need 1280x800
[14:23] <yossarianuk> Can't test as content not available in my region..
[14:23] <yossarianuk> can you not just use the display setting in plasma systemsetting?
[14:24] <yossarianuk> ... for resolution?
[14:25] <kisin> in plasma settings is same options like in nvidia-settings for  ViewPortOut
[14:25] <kisin> optzions of resolution
[14:28] <yossarianuk> it just handles resolution I think - check it out ...
[14:34] <kisin> But i dont know where handles rešsolution? In nvidia settings is for viewPortOut  different posibiletes until need my monitor. And in plasma is it same.
[14:35] <kisin> I try find same othre resolution, but otherwise create Xorg.conf
[14:36] <kisin> THX so much and for quick answer (help) :-)
[14:36] <kisin> Ḧave a nice time
[16:49] <R13ose> I am on a new user and all I had open was Opera Browser and Libreoffice.  The problem is my browser tabs would freeze
[17:12] <R13ose> I updated everything just now and will see if this happens again
[17:15] <R13ose> Bbl
[19:29] <LMGN> Hey. I have a problem installing kubuntu.
[19:30] <LMGN> It flickers rapidly
[19:30] <LMGN> However I can still start the installer
[19:30] <LMGN> Then
[19:30] <LMGN> It goes black for a few seconds
[19:30] <LMGN> Then shows the screen for a split second and that repeats
[19:30] <LMGN> Until the PC crashes and reboots.
[19:34] <TheLMGN> Hey
[19:34] <TheLMGN> I have a problem installing kbuntu
[19:34] <TheLMGN> Kubuntu*
[19:34] <TheLMGN> The screen flickers but I can start the installer
[19:35] <TheLMGN> Then it flickers in a different pattern, few seconds black split second on
[19:35] <TheLMGN> Then the PC reboots.
[19:41] <TheLMGN> Rip help.
[21:50] <dankjankem> hello
[21:50] <dankjankem> I have a problem with KDE alongside Unity
[21:52] <valorie> what's the problem, dankjankem?
[21:54] <dankjankem> after installing KDE, my Unity is ridden with errors
[21:54] <dankjankem> like everytime i login to Unity, I get multiple errors
[21:59] <valorie> "ridden with errors" and "multiple errors" is not specific enough to help
[21:59] <dankjankem> it just says system has encountered an internal error
[22:00] <dankjankem> or something like that
[22:00] <valorie> it sounds like a Unity problem, not a kubuntu problem
[22:00] <valorie> Unity is based mostly on Qt, as Kubuntu is
[22:01] <valorie> so I think your installing some KDE software is not the cause of your Unity problem
[22:01] <dankjankem> well I have only been getting these errors after my KDE insatll
[22:01] <dankjankem> install
[22:01] <valorie> in the old days, gtk<>Qt problems were an issue, but you pretty much have to install gnome for that to happen now
[22:01] <momken> hello
[22:02] <valorie> dankjankem: what did you install?
[22:02] <valorie> there is no "KDE" besides the KDE community
[22:02] <momken> I want to write a script to install many packages and software for my own use, because I have 2-3 pcs
[22:02] <momken> I can write the script with apt
[22:03] <dankjankem> I installed KDE plasma
[22:03] <momken> with apt-get/aptitude or pkcon (console of PackageKit)
[22:03] <momken> I wanted to test pkcon, because PackageKit is a universal way to install packages across many distros
[22:04] <dankjankem> hold on im gonna restart my pc
[22:05] <momken> But the output of pkcon is uglier than aptitude. For example result of searches in pkcon includes version numbers in package name
[22:05] <momken> It makes the output very long and unreadable.
[22:05] <momken> Did anyone work here with pkcon?
[22:06] <valorie> I use apt almost exclusively
[22:07] <valorie> rather than apt-get
[22:07] <valorie> haven't used aptitude in yonks
[22:08] <momken> valorie: I am not very aware of differences of apt/apt-get/aptitude.
[22:08] <valorie> apt is newest
[22:08] <momken> It seems apt-get is more legacy as I have seen it before.
[22:08] <valorie> yes
[22:08] <momken> Isn't aptitude the newest?
[22:09] <momken> I am used to aptitude mostly due to its search function
[22:10] <valorie> apt-cache search is quite good
[22:10] <valorie> afaik aptitude has long been deprecated, but perhaps someone began to update it again
[22:11] <dax> aptitude never stopped getting updates, Ubuntu just stopped recommending it
[22:11] <dax> it had trouble with multiarch for, like, a year. it got unrecommended during that
[22:11] <dax> apt is the most recent addition to the APT-using family. apt-get is basically completely deprecated by it, they do the same thing
[22:12] <dax> aptitude still has the shiny ncurses UI that some people like
[22:12] <dax> (or rather, apt-get does a subset of what apt does)
[22:12] <valorie> thanks, dax
[22:12] <valorie> once I switched to apt, I saw no reason to come back to aptitude
[22:13] <dax> it's very much a "use whichever you're happiest with, and if you don't care, use apt" situation
[22:15] <momken> valorie: But search functionality of apt is aweful. Just search for "gimp". It even lists results in details
[22:16] <valorie> uh?
[22:16] <valorie> I just did the search side by side
[22:17] <valorie> apt-cache search output is much easier to read
[22:17] <valorie> aptitude separates names from description
[22:17] <valorie> looks awful
[22:22] <momken> valorie: I agree that the distance between names and description may be far long. But it makes it a little neater in my opinion.
[22:22] <momken> But it is not my point
[22:22] <momken> valorie: The result of search is different between apt/apt-cache/aptitude
[22:23] <momken> aptitude only searches in package names which outputs a much smaller and stricter list
[22:23] <valorie> yup
[22:23] <valorie> I can see the use of that
[22:23] <momken> apt-cache list is so long that is useless. apt list is only the sorted list of apt-cache
[22:24] <momken> So basically search functionality of apt and apt-cache is useless
[22:24] <momken> maybe there should be an argument to strictly search in names (not descriptions)
[22:27] <momken> valorie: Yeah it is the "--names-only" argument of "search" for both apt and apt-cache
[22:28] <momken> or only using "-n" which is short enough
[22:28] <momken> But apart from that, my main goal of shifting to pkcon is that it is distro-independent
[22:28] <momken> It is very good to write an installation script that can be used on other distros too
[22:29] <momken> pkcon search also shows findings in the names only
[22:30] <valorie> calamares is the one I've been hearing about
[22:30] <valorie> not heard of pkcon
[22:30] <momken> but the results are very unreadable! Because package names include their version too. If I could only trim the results of pkcon it would be enough for me
[22:32] <momken> valorie: pkcon is CLI frontend for PackageKit which is a famous universal installer.
[22:32] <valorie> ok
[22:32] <momken> Genome Software (the default GUI frontend for Ubuntu) uses PackageKit backend as well
[22:33] <momken> It seems PackageKit will be the future-
[22:33] <momken> But I am not used to it
[22:33] <valorie> I think Calamares uses it also, but don't know
[22:33]  * valorie is not a coder, or packager
[22:34] <momken> I don't know how to trim the search results in pkcon
[22:34] <momken> let me search for calamares
[22:37] <momken> valorie: calamares is a universal os-installer, not a universal package-installer in different oses
[22:37] <valorie> really? I mis-understood then
[22:38] <momken> I read in calamares.io
[22:40] <momken> valorie: According to man of apt, it is more intended for interactive usage and for writing scripts, for backward compatibility it offered apt-get and apt-cache. But now that I want to install 50+ packages by my scripts, it is better to write my script with pkcon so the installer-script may be used in other distros too!
[22:41] <valorie> cool
 calamaries is cool
[23:47] <Fanfare> Hi @ all. Q: I have a file i can not delete... it is on a external hdd with a gpt partitiontable and ntfs filesystem.
[23:47] <Fanfare> ls -l gives: -????????? ? ? ? ?            ? Thumbs.db
[23:48] <Fanfare> Any hint how to get rid of that file without reformatting...