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hikikohello :)06:56
hikikohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM9cqSxjLs006:57
pittiGood morning!07:23
hikikohi pitti07:24
seb128hey pitti hikiko desktopers07:40
pittibonjour seb128 !07:40
seb128pitti, how are you today?07:43
didrockshey pitti! re seb12807:43
pittibonjour didrocks, ça va ?07:44
didrockspitti: ça va, et toi ?07:44
pittije vais bien, merci ! beaucoup de travail et à apprendre ;)07:44
seb128re didrocks07:45
seb128pitti, ça te change de Canonical ou y avait pas beaucoup de travail? :-p07:45
pitti:)07:47
pittiI'll go to Munich tonight for the new hire intro on Thu/Fri07:48
didrocks"so… this Linux thing…" :)07:48
seb128there is an office in Munich?07:49
pittiI have NFC about that yet!07:49
hikikohi seb128 didrocks07:49
didrockshey hikiko!07:50
seb128hey hikiko07:50
hikikoand desktopers :)07:50
pittiyes, apparently quite a big one; lucky me, I'm probably one of the closest new hires for that training, so very little travel :)07:50
seb128:-)07:51
seb128pitti, you might see gicmo there if you remember him07:52
seb128he started in december, he posted a photo from the munich office but I don't know if he works there or was just visiting07:53
* pitti scratches head, what was his real name?07:53
seb128Christian Kellner07:54
pittiah, of course!07:54
seb128pitti, if you cross him say hey from me :-)07:56
flexiondotorgMorning seb128 pitti didrocks hikiko08:26
didrockshey flexiondotorg08:26
hikikohi flexiondotorg08:27
* hikiko hi-ghlights everyone! :D08:27
flexiondotorgdidrocks node-red (from IBM) is in the beta channel :-)08:27
flexiondotorgSpoke to them yesterday afternoon and they DM'd me at ~22:30 lastnight.08:28
flexiondotorgThey've hooked up git mirroring to LP and build snaps on LP.08:29
didrocksflexiondotorg: we got node-red for months already though08:30
didrocksflexiondotorg: it's been even featured, how is that snap different? like, coming directly from upstream?08:31
didrocksnodered  0.14     mectors    -      A visual tool for wiring the Internet of Things08:32
seb128hey flexiondotorg, how are you?08:45
flexiondotorgdidrocks no, not 'nodered' but 'node-red'.08:51
flexiondotorgOnly in beta channel right now.08:51
flexiondotorgseb128 Yep, good thanks.08:51
didrocksflexiondotorg: what's the difference between the 2?08:51
didrocksnodered vs node-red08:52
didrocks(this is confusing)08:52
flexiondotorgI spoke to Barton George yesterday and got him on Linux Unplugged lastnight to talk about the Dell Precision line-up pre-loaded with Ubuntu :-)08:52
flexiondotorgdidrocks nodered (unofficial)08:52
flexiondotorgdidrocks node-red (official) from IBM.08:52
didrocksflexiondotorg: shouldn't then we get nodered removed?08:52
didrocksas it's been done by Canonical08:52
flexiondotorgdidrocks Will do today.08:52
didrocksthx!08:52
didrocksany plan to publish to the stable channel?08:53
flexiondotorgdidrocks Yep, after they've done more testing.08:53
didrocksgreat!08:53
flexiondotorgWe are < 24hrs since initial contact, so this one is moving fast.08:53
didrockssweet!08:54
willcookemorning all08:58
willcookehappyaron, hey! How is the SRU looking for NM?08:59
didrockshey willcooke09:00
willcookemorning didrocks09:00
davmor2Morning all09:02
Laneymorning!09:02
willcookehi ho davmor2 Laney - any signs of snow up your end yet?09:03
willcookeit's 10 degrees and sunny here09:03
willcooke:(09:03
davmor2willcooke: pffff09:03
Laneynope09:04
davmor2willcooke: 8°C feeling like 4°C here and sunny I thought the snow was meant to kick in at the end of the week09:04
Laneyseems windy though09:04
seb128good morning u.k09:04
didrocksgood morning Laney, davmor209:06
seb128how are things going on the island today?09:06
flexiondotorgMorning willcooke davmor209:06
hikikomorning Laney davmor2 willcooke09:10
* hikiko hi-lights more :p09:11
willcookehowdy seb128 flexiondotorg hikiko09:11
willcookeseb128, We were promised snow, but it's warm and sunny.  Thanks Brexit.09:11
davmor2is it just me who thinks Waltons when everyone says Morning on this channel09:11
willcookedavmor2, +109:11
seb128lol09:11
hikikolol willcooke you are slowly becoming greece...09:11
TheMusoHey folks.09:12
hikikohi TheMuso09:12
TheMusowillcooke: Thanks for the heads up, we are all in a conference call locking in flights now so the timing is excellent.09:12
hikikohere we have so much snow :DDDD09:12
davmor2hikiko: no that is plan b we stick out board motors on the Island and move to one of the Tropics09:13
hikikolol09:13
hikikohere we have plenty of sea but we are not so tropic any more :D09:14
willcookehey TheMuso09:14
hikikolast time we had that much snow in my city I was 3!09:14
davmor2willcooke: to be fair we've been promised the worse snow EVA! and the worse winters EVA! for the last two years and they have both been mild as hell09:14
Laneyhey seb12809:14
Laneywas thinking about getting on my bike and going to the library09:15
Laneybut not sure I'd make it :-o09:15
hikikodavmor2, http://i.imgur.com/OzSRe19.jpg snowed tropical trees in the background09:16
davmor2That's it I'm going on strike till we have snow damn it09:17
willcookegreat pic hikiko09:17
hikiko:D09:17
seb128Laney, oh, why? rain? wind?09:18
seb128hey TheMuso, flight to where?09:19
davmor2seb128: Burning up in the sun09:19
TheMusoseb128: My family and I are planning an overseas trip to the US in August.09:23
TheMusoI'm wanting to see New York, and will return, and they will stay longer and checkout more of the US.09:23
seb128oh ok, nice09:23
seb128enjoy!09:23
TheMusoIndeed, looking forward to it.09:23
Laneyseb128: wind!09:26
seb128it's windy here as well :-/09:27
Trevinhohey Laney!09:54
TrevinhoLaney: this https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2254 requires some debian bits approval, please consider adding it to your queue :-)09:54
willcookehappyaron, ping?09:59
willcooke<willcooke> happyaron, hey! How is the SRU looking for NM?09:59
LaneyTrevinho: okay10:02
Trevinho:)10:02
Trevinhohikiko: hey, could you see if there's some way to optimize shadows generation not to trigger https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1623702 ?10:10
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1623702 in unity (Ubuntu) "Computation of shadows on shaped windows too slow for hidpi displays" [High,Confirmed]10:10
hikikoTrevinho, I am going to add a ccsm option to disable shaped shadows and include it in lowgfx10:17
Trevinhohikiko: that's not for lowgfx...10:18
Trevinhohikiko: that's for everyone... It would be nice if we could use some GPU features to generate these shadows10:19
hikikoyeah, but for the moment10:19
hikikowe could give the users the option to disable them10:20
hikikoand then see what we can do10:20
Trevinhoyeah, sure... it's not something they probably want tho :-)10:20
hikikoyeah10:20
Trevinhobut indeed for it as 1st step10:20
hikikoI'll see how we can improve them10:20
LaneyTrevinho: do I have to wait for the automated signoff to finish?11:19
Laneygot ninja carded for my beer delivery :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((11:30
* willcooke googles11:31
* willcooke is no wiser11:31
LaneyO_O11:31
Laneyit's where they just post the sorry we missed you card11:31
willcookeohhhh11:33
willcookea holes11:33
LaneyAPC delivery11:33
LaneyAVOID11:33
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andyrock_hey all14:15
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andyrocklooks like I've been banned from #intel-gfx for some reasons14:16
seb128hey andyrock!14:20
seb128how are you?14:20
seb128did you spam them with questions? ;-)14:21
seb128I can join the channel so it's not a config issue on their side I think14:21
seb128chrisccoulson as well it seems :p14:21
seb128hey chrisccoulson btw ;-)14:21
chrisccoulsonhi :)14:21
happyaronwillcooke: hey, just back from dinner14:26
happyaronwillcooke: I need to do more testing before pushing the code, they are already prepared locally though14:27
seb128hey happyaron14:30
happyaronhey seb12814:30
seb128happyaron, had a nice dinner? ;-)14:30
happyaronyep, :-D14:31
willcookehappyaron, oki. Please try and get that finished before my start of day tomorrow so we can get it uploaded tomorrow14:32
happyaronsure14:32
seb128happyaron, there are a bunch of launchpad bugs fixed by those updates you might want to include some in the changelog if you didn't yet (look to bugs assigned to you, I've done that when I crossed upstream fix commited issues)14:35
happyaronI did close some bugs fixed in previous SRUs when I went over the bug lists, but yeah there are bunches remaining...14:36
Sweet5harkseb128, willcooke: https://twitter.com/Sweet5hark/status/81919139099956019214:41
Sweet5harkseb128: and yes, I smoketested the 32 bit version too by adding up 1+2+3 ...14:42
seb128:-)14:42
seb128oh, and hey Sweet5hark14:43
seb128Sweet5hark, well done!14:43
seb128Sweet5hark, what's the status of the .desktops for the snap btw?14:43
Sweet5harkthanks, it was a troubesome journey at points.14:43
Sweet5harkseb128: there are some basic ones in https://git.launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/df-libreoffice/+git/libreoffice-snap-playground/tree/setup/gui?id=29980f3f79ea804fd32cf88f07b8eecfbb54ae9614:45
seb128Sweet5hark, so it's listed in the dash?14:46
Sweet5harkbut e.g. they are static copies, so e.g. the translations in there would need manual updates etc.14:46
seb128right that's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapcraft/+bug/159742214:48
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1597422 in snapcraft (Ubuntu) "Doesn't let you use an upstream .desktop entry" [Low,Invalid]14:48
* Sweet5hark just started libreoffice 5.3.0 rc1 snap Calc from the dash.14:49
Sweet5harkseb128: ^^ that works (if you dont have a libreoffice dpkg installed)14:49
seb128Nice!14:50
seb128going to try that in a bit14:50
seb128andyrock, btw did you see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/budgie-desktop/+bug/1631745?14:52
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1631745 in gnome-menus (Ubuntu) "hostname-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_alloc()" [High,In progress]14:52
seb128andyrock, the bug has some details but seems to be partially due to the changes you did to fix the issue when sometime the dash was not listing newly installed entries14:52
seb128could you have a look?14:52
andyrockseb128: i'm taking a look but do we have the same issue in ubuntu?14:55
seb128andyrock, seems not, doesn't mean there isn't a bug in a codepath we don't use :-)15:01
seb128andyrock, our changes might have a ref issue by reading their explanations15:02
andyrocki'm taking a look15:02
seb128thanks15:07
seb128happyaron, what SRUs are you working on exactly and in which order?15:07
andyrockseb128: I don't see how the patch should cause that issue15:14
seb128andyrock, 80_ or 81_? or any of those?15:15
seb128andyrock, my understand from reading the bug is that 80_ has the issue and 81_ makes them hit cases where it gets bitten by the bug15:15
andyrock80_*15:15
seb128sorry other way around15:15
andyrock80_* is the delayed monitor patch15:16
seb128yeah, I'm getting confused, I read that bug a few days ago when I CCed you15:16
seb128but yeah comments suggests that other patches create the issue and 80_ makes it hit it15:18
andyrockmmm not sure15:18
andyrockthe bt is useless15:18
seb128andyrock, thanks for looking and don't bother too much about it, I'm going to ask for a valgrind log ... it only impacts budgie sessions in practice it seems and they are moving to a new codebase not having the issue for 17.1015:19
seb128so not an important one15:19
seb128andyrock, do you want me to ask about your ban on #intel-gfx btw?15:19
seb128what error do you get exactly when trying to join?15:20
andyrockyeah with a bt I can work on it15:20
andyrockI can join now, maybe an issue with IrcCloud15:20
andyrockwhat can be is that their /usr/share/app... is a bit broken maybe15:22
andyrockbroken entries15:22
seb128could be yeah15:22
seb128and maybe they didn't get proper updates before your fix15:22
seb128and so not hitting the bug15:22
andyrockbut try to ask for a good bt and I'll work on it15:23
andyrockit's kind of hard to work on such a bug without it15:23
seb128yeah15:23
seb128I just did15:23
seb128asked for a valgrind log or a simpler testcase/example we could try under unity15:23
seb128let's see, I keep you updated if they give more info15:24
seb128andyrock, thanks!15:24
seb128tjaalton, hey, did you see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1652486 ? if not would be nice if you could have a look, I guess that might come with some standard version update if it's commited upstream, right?15:25
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1652486 in mesa (Ubuntu) "mesa gpu lockup" [Medium,New]15:25
tjaaltonseb128: 13.0.3 has it, which is in zesty15:41
tjaaltondon't think there will be another 12.0.x release15:42
tjaaltonor 11.2.x15:42
seb128tjaalton, does the patch looks like trivial enough that it might be a candidate for a SRU? in any case could you maybe comment on the bug?15:47
tjaaltoncommented15:48
tjaaltonis trivial15:48
tjaaltonthere are pending sru's for xenial & yakkety already15:49
tjaaltonbut they're still on the queue15:49
seb128tjaalton, thanks!15:49
tjaaltonother sru's i mean15:59
tjaaltonthis could be added still15:59
seb128tjaalton, right, then that's one for next SRU round no worry, thanks for the comment still (and for maybe considering next time you do a SRU ;-)16:09
happyaronseb128: I'm working on NM and nma, then fcitx-qimpanel16:19
seb128happyaron, k, define the order you want between the nm components but maybe -gnome is the easiest so we could start with it?16:20
happyaronyep actually I've prepared both, but need more verification, don't want regressions be discovered like previous attempt16:21
seb128k, doing some good testing before upload is good but you don't have the variety of configs and usecases users out there have so we still have the proposed testing behind16:24
happyaronyep16:25
happyaronseb128, willcooke, pushed the branch for n-m/1.2.6, LGTM. still have some tests to do for nma tomorrow17:39
happyaronand good night guys17:39
willcookenight happyaron17:39
xnoxtjaalton, what's the best way to send a patch for xserver-server-lts-xenial which should only be applied in uploads to trusty?17:41
happyaronwell they looks a lot saner when diffs between x- and y- are minimal now17:41
tjaaltonxnox: file a bug against it?17:43
tjaaltonI have a separate branch for it17:44
xnoxtjaalton, ok. it's just that delta is trusty specific, and should only be applied whenever the stack is "rebackported" to trusty. Ack. Will file a bug with a patch =)17:44
tjaaltonyep17:45
tjaaltonxnox: did you notice the sru upload?17:46
xnoxtjaalton, yes =)17:48
xnoxtjaalton, and regretted that did not get my change into it =(17:48
tjaaltonwhat is it?-)17:48
xnoxtjaalton, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server-lts-xenial/+bug/165572417:50
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1655724 in xorg-server-lts-xenial (Ubuntu Trusty) "Should not break systemd in trusty, conflicts with snapd" [Medium,Confirmed]17:50
Laneynight!18:21
CrazyLemonhey guys.. does anyone know whats the deal with this signon-ui (account verification) that keeps poping up like its on weird drugs? i closed the window like 15-20 times and it keeps poping up19:01
willcookenight all19:51
willcookeCrazyLemon, I'm afraid I can't help you, but if you can pop back tomorrow morning Europe time I think you might have more chance of finding someone to help19:52
dobeywhat provides the transparent pop-up for shutdown/restart/logout in unity 7?20:35
dobeyCrazyLemon: can you be more specific about what's popping up exactly? signon-ui is part of the online-accounts stuff. if you added an account of some type and whatever is using it keeps invalidating it constantly, it could cause such a situation20:36
CrazyLemondobey well it pops up a prompt to sign in with an account20:37
CrazyLemonsometimes its empty20:37
CrazyLemonsometimes it wants me to auth access to gmail20:37
CrazyLemondobey more specific would also be signonpluginpro[15488]: segfault at 7f766e1c0b98 ip 00007f766862a5df sp 00007fff204af7d0 error 4 in libQt5Network.so.5.6.1[7f7668594000+16e000]20:38
dobeyoh so it's crashing then20:38
dobeyis there a crash report in /var/crash/ that was uploaded?20:38
CrazyLemondobey its crashing all the time :)20:39
CrazyLemondobey would you like me to upload it somewhere? one is .upload, one is .uploaded and one is .crash20:39
dobeysure. but i can't tell you why it's crashing. are you on 16.10?20:39
CrazyLemoni am20:39
dobeyCrazyLemon: the .uploaded file means the report has been uploaded to the crash reporter service already :)20:39
dobeyCrazyLemon: so to get rid of the problem maybe go disable some accounts in the online acocunts settings and see if it helps20:40
CrazyLemondobey there weird thing is that it wants access for that account and after reboot/X amount of time its all fine again20:41
dobeyCrazyLemon: right. for google account, i think the oauth token only lasts for a certain amount of time, and then you need to "reauthorize"20:42
CrazyLemonand in a couple of full moons i get these popups acting crazy for 30-40 times :)20:42
TheMusodobey: The transparent popup for shutdown/restart is unity 7 itself.21:18
TheMusoi.e in the actual compiz plugin.21:19
dobeythanks21:19
TheMusonp21:25

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