[06:56] <hikiko> hello :)
[06:57] <hikiko> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM9cqSxjLs0
[07:23] <pitti> Good morning!
[07:24] <hikiko> hi pitti
[07:40] <seb128> hey pitti hikiko desktopers
[07:40] <pitti> bonjour seb128 !
[07:43] <seb128> pitti, how are you today?
[07:43] <didrocks> hey pitti! re seb128
[07:44] <pitti> bonjour didrocks, ça va ?
[07:44] <didrocks> pitti: ça va, et toi ?
[07:44] <pitti> je vais bien, merci ! beaucoup de travail et à apprendre ;)
[07:45] <seb128> re didrocks
[07:45] <seb128> pitti, ça te change de Canonical ou y avait pas beaucoup de travail? :-p
[07:47] <pitti> :)
[07:48] <pitti> I'll go to Munich tonight for the new hire intro on Thu/Fri
[07:48] <didrocks> "so… this Linux thing…" :)
[07:49] <seb128> there is an office in Munich?
[07:49] <pitti> I have NFC about that yet!
[07:49] <hikiko> hi seb128 didrocks
[07:50] <didrocks> hey hikiko!
[07:50] <seb128> hey hikiko
[07:50] <hikiko> and desktopers :)
[07:50] <pitti> yes, apparently quite a big one; lucky me, I'm probably one of the closest new hires for that training, so very little travel :)
[07:51] <seb128> :-)
[07:52] <seb128> pitti, you might see gicmo there if you remember him
[07:53] <seb128> he started in december, he posted a photo from the munich office but I don't know if he works there or was just visiting
[07:53]  * pitti scratches head, what was his real name?
[07:54] <seb128> Christian Kellner
[07:54] <pitti> ah, of course!
[07:56] <seb128> pitti, if you cross him say hey from me :-)
[08:26] <flexiondotorg> Morning seb128 pitti didrocks hikiko
[08:26] <didrocks> hey flexiondotorg
[08:27] <hikiko> hi flexiondotorg
[08:27]  * hikiko hi-ghlights everyone! :D
[08:27] <flexiondotorg> didrocks node-red (from IBM) is in the beta channel :-)
[08:28] <flexiondotorg> Spoke to them yesterday afternoon and they DM'd me at ~22:30 lastnight.
[08:29] <flexiondotorg> They've hooked up git mirroring to LP and build snaps on LP.
[08:30] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: we got node-red for months already though
[08:31] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: it's been even featured, how is that snap different? like, coming directly from upstream?
[08:32] <didrocks> nodered  0.14     mectors    -      A visual tool for wiring the Internet of Things
[08:45] <seb128> hey flexiondotorg, how are you?
[08:51] <flexiondotorg> didrocks no, not 'nodered' but 'node-red'.
[08:51] <flexiondotorg> Only in beta channel right now.
[08:51] <flexiondotorg> seb128 Yep, good thanks.
[08:51] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: what's the difference between the 2?
[08:52] <didrocks> nodered vs node-red
[08:52] <didrocks> (this is confusing)
[08:52] <flexiondotorg> I spoke to Barton George yesterday and got him on Linux Unplugged lastnight to talk about the Dell Precision line-up pre-loaded with Ubuntu :-)
[08:52] <flexiondotorg> didrocks nodered (unofficial)
[08:52] <flexiondotorg> didrocks node-red (official) from IBM.
[08:52] <didrocks> flexiondotorg: shouldn't then we get nodered removed?
[08:52] <didrocks> as it's been done by Canonical
[08:52] <flexiondotorg> didrocks Will do today.
[08:52] <didrocks> thx!
[08:53] <didrocks> any plan to publish to the stable channel?
[08:53] <flexiondotorg> didrocks Yep, after they've done more testing.
[08:53] <didrocks> great!
[08:53] <flexiondotorg> We are < 24hrs since initial contact, so this one is moving fast.
[08:54] <didrocks> sweet!
[08:58] <willcooke> morning all
[08:59] <willcooke> happyaron, hey! How is the SRU looking for NM?
[09:00] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[09:00] <willcooke> morning didrocks
[09:02] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:02] <Laney> morning!
[09:03] <willcooke> hi ho davmor2 Laney - any signs of snow up your end yet?
[09:03] <willcooke> it's 10 degrees and sunny here
[09:03] <willcooke> :(
[09:03] <davmor2> willcooke: pffff
[09:04] <Laney> nope
[09:04] <davmor2> willcooke: 8°C feeling like 4°C here and sunny I thought the snow was meant to kick in at the end of the week
[09:04] <Laney> seems windy though
[09:04] <seb128> good morning u.k
[09:06] <didrocks> good morning Laney, davmor2
[09:06] <seb128> how are things going on the island today?
[09:06] <flexiondotorg> Morning willcooke davmor2
[09:10] <hikiko> morning Laney davmor2 willcooke
[09:11]  * hikiko hi-lights more :p
[09:11] <willcooke> howdy seb128 flexiondotorg hikiko
[09:11] <willcooke> seb128, We were promised snow, but it's warm and sunny.  Thanks Brexit.
[09:11] <davmor2> is it just me who thinks Waltons when everyone says Morning on this channel
[09:11] <willcooke> davmor2, +1
[09:11] <seb128> lol
[09:11] <hikiko> lol willcooke you are slowly becoming greece...
[09:12] <TheMuso> Hey folks.
[09:12] <hikiko> hi TheMuso
[09:12] <TheMuso> willcooke: Thanks for the heads up, we are all in a conference call locking in flights now so the timing is excellent.
[09:12] <hikiko> here we have so much snow :DDDD
[09:13] <davmor2> hikiko: no that is plan b we stick out board motors on the Island and move to one of the Tropics
[09:13] <hikiko> lol
[09:14] <hikiko> here we have plenty of sea but we are not so tropic any more :D
[09:14] <willcooke> hey TheMuso
[09:14] <hikiko> last time we had that much snow in my city I was 3!
[09:14] <davmor2> willcooke: to be fair we've been promised the worse snow EVA! and the worse winters EVA! for the last two years and they have both been mild as hell
[09:14] <Laney> hey seb128
[09:15] <Laney> was thinking about getting on my bike and going to the library
[09:15] <Laney> but not sure I'd make it :-o
[09:16] <hikiko> davmor2, http://i.imgur.com/OzSRe19.jpg snowed tropical trees in the background
[09:17] <davmor2> That's it I'm going on strike till we have snow damn it
[09:17] <willcooke> great pic hikiko
[09:17] <hikiko> :D
[09:18] <seb128> Laney, oh, why? rain? wind?
[09:19] <seb128> hey TheMuso, flight to where?
[09:19] <davmor2> seb128: Burning up in the sun
[09:23] <TheMuso> seb128: My family and I are planning an overseas trip to the US in August.
[09:23] <TheMuso> I'm wanting to see New York, and will return, and they will stay longer and checkout more of the US.
[09:23] <seb128> oh ok, nice
[09:23] <seb128> enjoy!
[09:23] <TheMuso> Indeed, looking forward to it.
[09:26] <Laney> seb128: wind!
[09:27] <seb128> it's windy here as well :-/
[09:54] <Trevinho> hey Laney!
[09:54] <Trevinho> Laney: this https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2254 requires some debian bits approval, please consider adding it to your queue :-)
[09:59] <willcooke> happyaron, ping?
[09:59] <willcooke> <willcooke> happyaron, hey! How is the SRU looking for NM?
[10:02] <Laney> Trevinho: okay
[10:02] <Trevinho> :)
[10:10] <Trevinho> hikiko: hey, could you see if there's some way to optimize shadows generation not to trigger https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1623702 ?
[10:10] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1623702 in unity (Ubuntu) "Computation of shadows on shaped windows too slow for hidpi displays" [High,Confirmed]
[10:17] <hikiko> Trevinho, I am going to add a ccsm option to disable shaped shadows and include it in lowgfx
[10:18] <Trevinho> hikiko: that's not for lowgfx...
[10:19] <Trevinho> hikiko: that's for everyone... It would be nice if we could use some GPU features to generate these shadows
[10:19] <hikiko> yeah, but for the moment
[10:20] <hikiko> we could give the users the option to disable them
[10:20] <hikiko> and then see what we can do
[10:20] <Trevinho> yeah, sure... it's not something they probably want tho :-)
[10:20] <hikiko> yeah
[10:20] <Trevinho> but indeed for it as 1st step
[10:20] <hikiko> I'll see how we can improve them
[11:19] <Laney> Trevinho: do I have to wait for the automated signoff to finish?
[11:30] <Laney> got ninja carded for my beer delivery :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
[11:31]  * willcooke googles
[11:31]  * willcooke is no wiser
[11:31] <Laney> O_O
[11:31] <Laney> it's where they just post the sorry we missed you card
[11:33] <willcooke> ohhhh
[11:33] <willcooke> a holes
[11:33] <Laney> APC delivery
[11:33] <Laney> AVOID
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[14:15] <andyrock_> hey all
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[14:16] <andyrock> looks like I've been banned from #intel-gfx for some reasons
[14:20] <seb128> hey andyrock!
[14:20] <seb128> how are you?
[14:21] <seb128> did you spam them with questions? ;-)
[14:21] <seb128> I can join the channel so it's not a config issue on their side I think
[14:21] <seb128> chrisccoulson as well it seems :p
[14:21] <seb128> hey chrisccoulson btw ;-)
[14:21] <chrisccoulson> hi :)
[14:26] <happyaron> willcooke: hey, just back from dinner
[14:27] <happyaron> willcooke: I need to do more testing before pushing the code, they are already prepared locally though
[14:30] <seb128> hey happyaron
[14:30] <happyaron> hey seb128
[14:30] <seb128> happyaron, had a nice dinner? ;-)
[14:31] <happyaron> yep, :-D
[14:32] <willcooke> happyaron, oki. Please try and get that finished before my start of day tomorrow so we can get it uploaded tomorrow
[14:32] <happyaron> sure
[14:35] <seb128> happyaron, there are a bunch of launchpad bugs fixed by those updates you might want to include some in the changelog if you didn't yet (look to bugs assigned to you, I've done that when I crossed upstream fix commited issues)
[14:36] <happyaron> I did close some bugs fixed in previous SRUs when I went over the bug lists, but yeah there are bunches remaining...
[14:41] <Sweet5hark> seb128, willcooke: https://twitter.com/Sweet5hark/status/819191390999560192
[14:42] <Sweet5hark> seb128: and yes, I smoketested the 32 bit version too by adding up 1+2+3 ...
[14:42] <seb128> :-)
[14:43] <seb128> oh, and hey Sweet5hark
[14:43] <seb128> Sweet5hark, well done!
[14:43] <seb128> Sweet5hark, what's the status of the .desktops for the snap btw?
[14:43] <Sweet5hark> thanks, it was a troubesome journey at points.
[14:45] <Sweet5hark> seb128: there are some basic ones in https://git.launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/df-libreoffice/+git/libreoffice-snap-playground/tree/setup/gui?id=29980f3f79ea804fd32cf88f07b8eecfbb54ae96
[14:46] <seb128> Sweet5hark, so it's listed in the dash?
[14:46] <Sweet5hark> but e.g. they are static copies, so e.g. the translations in there would need manual updates etc.
[14:48] <seb128> right that's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapcraft/+bug/1597422
[14:48] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1597422 in snapcraft (Ubuntu) "Doesn't let you use an upstream .desktop entry" [Low,Invalid]
[14:49]  * Sweet5hark just started libreoffice 5.3.0 rc1 snap Calc from the dash.
[14:49] <Sweet5hark> seb128: ^^ that works (if you dont have a libreoffice dpkg installed)
[14:50] <seb128> Nice!
[14:50] <seb128> going to try that in a bit
[14:52] <seb128> andyrock, btw did you see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/budgie-desktop/+bug/1631745?
[14:52] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1631745 in gnome-menus (Ubuntu) "hostname-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_alloc()" [High,In progress]
[14:52] <seb128> andyrock, the bug has some details but seems to be partially due to the changes you did to fix the issue when sometime the dash was not listing newly installed entries
[14:52] <seb128> could you have a look?
[14:55] <andyrock> seb128: i'm taking a look but do we have the same issue in ubuntu?
[15:01] <seb128> andyrock, seems not, doesn't mean there isn't a bug in a codepath we don't use :-)
[15:02] <seb128> andyrock, our changes might have a ref issue by reading their explanations
[15:02] <andyrock> i'm taking a look
[15:07] <seb128> thanks
[15:07] <seb128> happyaron, what SRUs are you working on exactly and in which order?
[15:14] <andyrock> seb128: I don't see how the patch should cause that issue
[15:15] <seb128> andyrock, 80_ or 81_? or any of those?
[15:15] <seb128> andyrock, my understand from reading the bug is that 80_ has the issue and 81_ makes them hit cases where it gets bitten by the bug
[15:15] <andyrock> 80_*
[15:15] <seb128> sorry other way around
[15:16] <andyrock> 80_* is the delayed monitor patch
[15:16] <seb128> yeah, I'm getting confused, I read that bug a few days ago when I CCed you
[15:18] <seb128> but yeah comments suggests that other patches create the issue and 80_ makes it hit it
[15:18] <andyrock> mmm not sure
[15:18] <andyrock> the bt is useless
[15:19] <seb128> andyrock, thanks for looking and don't bother too much about it, I'm going to ask for a valgrind log ... it only impacts budgie sessions in practice it seems and they are moving to a new codebase not having the issue for 17.10
[15:19] <seb128> so not an important one
[15:19] <seb128> andyrock, do you want me to ask about your ban on #intel-gfx btw?
[15:20] <seb128> what error do you get exactly when trying to join?
[15:20] <andyrock> yeah with a bt I can work on it
[15:20] <andyrock> I can join now, maybe an issue with IrcCloud
[15:22] <andyrock> what can be is that their /usr/share/app... is a bit broken maybe
[15:22] <andyrock> broken entries
[15:22] <seb128> could be yeah
[15:22] <seb128> and maybe they didn't get proper updates before your fix
[15:22] <seb128> and so not hitting the bug
[15:23] <andyrock> but try to ask for a good bt and I'll work on it
[15:23] <andyrock> it's kind of hard to work on such a bug without it
[15:23] <seb128> yeah
[15:23] <seb128> I just did
[15:23] <seb128> asked for a valgrind log or a simpler testcase/example we could try under unity
[15:24] <seb128> let's see, I keep you updated if they give more info
[15:24] <seb128> andyrock, thanks!
[15:25] <seb128> tjaalton, hey, did you see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1652486 ? if not would be nice if you could have a look, I guess that might come with some standard version update if it's commited upstream, right?
[15:25] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1652486 in mesa (Ubuntu) "mesa gpu lockup" [Medium,New]
[15:41] <tjaalton> seb128: 13.0.3 has it, which is in zesty
[15:42] <tjaalton> don't think there will be another 12.0.x release
[15:42] <tjaalton> or 11.2.x
[15:47] <seb128> tjaalton, does the patch looks like trivial enough that it might be a candidate for a SRU? in any case could you maybe comment on the bug?
[15:48] <tjaalton> commented
[15:48] <tjaalton> is trivial
[15:49] <tjaalton> there are pending sru's for xenial & yakkety already
[15:49] <tjaalton> but they're still on the queue
[15:49] <seb128> tjaalton, thanks!
[15:59] <tjaalton> other sru's i mean
[15:59] <tjaalton> this could be added still
[16:09] <seb128> tjaalton, right, then that's one for next SRU round no worry, thanks for the comment still (and for maybe considering next time you do a SRU ;-)
[16:19] <happyaron> seb128: I'm working on NM and nma, then fcitx-qimpanel
[16:20] <seb128> happyaron, k, define the order you want between the nm components but maybe -gnome is the easiest so we could start with it?
[16:21] <happyaron> yep actually I've prepared both, but need more verification, don't want regressions be discovered like previous attempt
[16:24] <seb128> k, doing some good testing before upload is good but you don't have the variety of configs and usecases users out there have so we still have the proposed testing behind
[16:25] <happyaron> yep
[17:39] <happyaron> seb128, willcooke, pushed the branch for n-m/1.2.6, LGTM. still have some tests to do for nma tomorrow
[17:39] <happyaron> and good night guys
[17:39] <willcooke> night happyaron
[17:41] <xnox> tjaalton, what's the best way to send a patch for xserver-server-lts-xenial which should only be applied in uploads to trusty?
[17:41] <happyaron> well they looks a lot saner when diffs between x- and y- are minimal now
[17:43] <tjaalton> xnox: file a bug against it?
[17:44] <tjaalton> I have a separate branch for it
[17:44] <xnox> tjaalton, ok. it's just that delta is trusty specific, and should only be applied whenever the stack is "rebackported" to trusty. Ack. Will file a bug with a patch =)
[17:45] <tjaalton> yep
[17:46] <tjaalton> xnox: did you notice the sru upload?
[17:48] <xnox> tjaalton, yes =)
[17:48] <xnox> tjaalton, and regretted that did not get my change into it =(
[17:48] <tjaalton> what is it?-)
[17:50] <xnox> tjaalton, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server-lts-xenial/+bug/1655724
[17:50] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1655724 in xorg-server-lts-xenial (Ubuntu Trusty) "Should not break systemd in trusty, conflicts with snapd" [Medium,Confirmed]
[18:21] <Laney> night!
[19:01] <CrazyLemon> hey guys.. does anyone know whats the deal with this signon-ui (account verification) that keeps poping up like its on weird drugs? i closed the window like 15-20 times and it keeps poping up
[19:51] <willcooke> night all
[19:52] <willcooke> CrazyLemon, I'm afraid I can't help you, but if you can pop back tomorrow morning Europe time I think you might have more chance of finding someone to help
[20:35] <dobey> what provides the transparent pop-up for shutdown/restart/logout in unity 7?
[20:36] <dobey> CrazyLemon: can you be more specific about what's popping up exactly? signon-ui is part of the online-accounts stuff. if you added an account of some type and whatever is using it keeps invalidating it constantly, it could cause such a situation
[20:37] <CrazyLemon> dobey well it pops up a prompt to sign in with an account
[20:37] <CrazyLemon> sometimes its empty
[20:37] <CrazyLemon> sometimes it wants me to auth access to gmail
[20:38] <CrazyLemon> dobey more specific would also be signonpluginpro[15488]: segfault at 7f766e1c0b98 ip 00007f766862a5df sp 00007fff204af7d0 error 4 in libQt5Network.so.5.6.1[7f7668594000+16e000]
[20:38] <dobey> oh so it's crashing then
[20:38] <dobey> is there a crash report in /var/crash/ that was uploaded?
[20:39] <CrazyLemon> dobey its crashing all the time :)
[20:39] <CrazyLemon> dobey would you like me to upload it somewhere? one is .upload, one is .uploaded and one is .crash
[20:39] <dobey> sure. but i can't tell you why it's crashing. are you on 16.10?
[20:39] <CrazyLemon> i am
[20:39] <dobey> CrazyLemon: the .uploaded file means the report has been uploaded to the crash reporter service already :)
[20:40] <dobey> CrazyLemon: so to get rid of the problem maybe go disable some accounts in the online acocunts settings and see if it helps
[20:41] <CrazyLemon> dobey there weird thing is that it wants access for that account and after reboot/X amount of time its all fine again
[20:42] <dobey> CrazyLemon: right. for google account, i think the oauth token only lasts for a certain amount of time, and then you need to "reauthorize"
[20:42] <CrazyLemon> and in a couple of full moons i get these popups acting crazy for 30-40 times :)
[21:18] <TheMuso> dobey: The transparent popup for shutdown/restart is unity 7 itself.
[21:19] <TheMuso> i.e in the actual compiz plugin.
[21:19] <dobey> thanks
[21:25] <TheMuso> np