[04:58] <spider_x> Hey guys, for whatever reason when I shutdown the computer the monitors get turned off but the computer keeps running?
[05:31] <user|23803> I have forgotten my password and my computer needs to update how can I update my computer
[05:36] <spider_x> Hello, I am having an issue I installed lightdm on Kubuntu, however it is giving me a  "Failed to Start session"
[05:40] <valorie> spider_x: what version of Kubuntu?
[05:40] <valorie> we use SDDM now
[05:41] <valorie> although afaik it will still work with lightdm
[05:41] <valorie> we can't provide support for that, though
[05:42] <spider_x> valorie: 16.04.1
[05:42] <spider_x> and the login screen was purple
[05:43] <spider_x> so I removed lightdm and well now no login screen at all
[05:43] <valorie> do you still have SDDM?
[05:43] <valorie> `apt-cache policy sddm` in a konsole or terminal
[05:43] <spider_x> Yea, I just "sudo apt-get installed" it and it says it is already at its newest
[05:44] <valorie> try sudo apt install -f
[05:44] <valorie> f=fix
[05:44] <valorie> not force
[05:44] <spider_x> yep it is on 0.13.0 version
[05:44] <spider_x> the sddm that is
[05:45] <spider_x> well 0.13.0-1ubuntu5
[05:45] <spider_x> hmm ok I ran sudo sddm and it came up with the usual blue screen
[05:46] <spider_x> however when I logged in it threw me back into tty1
[05:46] <valorie> can you say why you installed lightdm?
[05:46] <spider_x> I was unable to shutdown and I had a suspicioun that it was caused by sddm
[05:47] <spider_x> which is kind of true since I was able to shutdown just fine with lightdm
[05:47] <valorie> did install -f do anything for you?
[05:48] <spider_x> hmm, I am wondering can I reconfigure it to use sddm again?
[05:48] <spider_x> maybe something like sudo dpkg-reconfigure sddm
[05:48] <valorie> `sudo dpkg --configure -a`
[05:48] <valorie> a=all
[05:48] <valorie> or you can do sddm only
[05:49] <valorie> I would advise doing all, since it seems you have some other problem
[05:50] <spider_x> hmm when I try that it gives invalid option -o ?
[05:50] <valorie> -o?
[05:51] <valorie> dunno what that might be
[05:51] <spider_x> yea, I tupe sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:51] <spider_x> but then it just gives me a new line now?
[05:52] <spider_x> and say if I try sudo apt-get update it is stuck on 0%
[05:53] <spider_x> hmm I rebooted, it came up with the sddm display manager
[05:53] <valorie> if there is no output, all is good
[05:53] <spider_x> lets see what happens next
[05:54] <spider_x> hmmhmm, seems to have fixed itself by removing lightdm
[05:55] <spider_x> and the sudo apt-get update was caused by the VPN, because it didn't turn off properly so the proxy settings were probablly set to be the ones of the VPN
[05:55] <spider_x> yep it was indeed the issue
[05:55] <spider_x> well anyway thanks a lot valorie :)
[05:55] <spider_x> issue has been resolved
[05:56] <valorie> excellent
[07:45] <momken> hello
[07:46] <momken> I have a case which I have installed kubuntu 16.04 on it
[07:47] <momken> The only problem is that after going to suspend, if I move the mouse it will wake up
[07:47] <momken> How could I disable waking up by moving mouse?
[08:44] <Mrokii> Hello. I've been using Ubuntu for years but switched to Kubuntu some time ago (fresh install). I had been using Kupfer on Ubuntu and am using it on Kubuntu as well, but since switching to Kubuntu, Kupfer doesn't start properly anymore when it is started automatically. In this case, the shortcut to open the command-window doesn't appear. If I kill its process and manually start Kupfer, everything works fine.
[08:44] <Mrokii> Does anybody have a clue what the cause could be?
[08:56] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:38] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:44] <noaXess> hello..
[12:44] <noaXess> does anybody also have problem with laptop screen sleep mode and not wake up, only if unplug/replug power?
[12:45] <hateball> noaXess: is it nvidia?
[12:45] <noaXess> intel/nvidia
[12:46] <hateball> noaXess: binary blob?
[12:46] <noaXess> nvm.. i think
[12:46] <noaXess> nv
[12:46] <noaXess> let me check to be sure
[12:48] <noaXess> driver=nouveau
[12:48] <noaXess> for the nvidia and i915 for the intel
[12:49] <hateball> alright, then I dont know
[12:49] <hateball> saw the latest binary blob had some fixes related to backlight and power source detections and so on
[12:49] <hateball> noaXess: any reason you're using nouveau? old chipset?
[12:50] <noaXess> as nvidia from repo's does make problem with dual monitor..
[12:50] <noaXess> binary blob means.. download driver from nvidia directly?
[12:51] <hateball> well I use the PPA for ease of managment
[12:51] <noaXess> which one?
[12:51] <noaXess> official nvidia ppa?
[12:51] <hateball> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-375
[12:51] <noaXess> and do you also have dual monitor on your laptop?
[12:51] <hateball> No, I do not use hybrid gpu at all. I only use pure nvidia on desktop, and pure intel on laptop
[12:52] <hateball> anyhows, you could give it a go, if it works, great, if not, purge nvidia-375 and you should be back on nouveau
[12:52] <noaXess> so your laptop has no hybrid graphic, right?
[12:52] <hateball> noaXess: Nope
[12:52] <noaXess> okey..
[12:53] <noaXess> hybrid is tricky as i tested a lot.. if only single monitor.. no prob.. but i work on dual mon. setup
[12:53] <hateball> noaXess: are you on 16.04 or 16.10? using kubuntu backports?
[12:53] <hateball> because that's another headache in the multimonitor equation :p
[12:54] <noaXess> 16.04
[12:54] <noaXess> kubuntu backports, yes
[12:54] <noaXess> yes
[12:55] <hateball> good, at least updated there then
[12:55] <noaXess> update to 16.10?
[12:56] <hateball> noaXess: no point, 16.04 is on par as far as plasma goes
[12:56] <hateball> when running backports that is
[12:56] <noaXess> aha.. okay.. so keep
[12:56] <hateball> I'd try the binary blob and see if that works nicer, it's quick enough to test
[12:57] <hateball> suppose you may want to install "nvidia-prime" to be able to choose between nvidia or intel also
[12:57] <noaXess> okies.. will check.. later ;).. thanks for hints..
[12:57] <noaXess> why ever they make hybrid stuff.. its horrible..
[12:57] <noaXess> internal display, as i know is connected to intel
[12:57] <noaXess> external connectors (vga and hdmi) is connected to nvidia..
[12:58] <noaXess> or only hdmi to nvidia and vga to intel.. can't follow that concept
[12:58] <hateball> well, a lesson learned for the next laptop :p
[12:58] <hateball> buy with discrete gpu or at least muxless so you can pick in bios
[13:15] <poco_> hey guys, running Kubuntu 16.04 with a GTX 970 (nvidia-367) and I'm getting a lot of screen tearing in apps like Chrome and Steam games. Any advice?
[18:29] <alx5000> hi
[18:30] <soee> hiho
[18:31] <alx5000> on a scale of 1 to 10, how advisable is adding the kubuntu staging KDE apps ppa?
[18:31] <alx5000> is there a better way to get 16.12 applications under ubuntu?
[18:31] <dax> on a scale of 10 to 1, how much do you mind your KDE being unusable
[18:32] <dax> if it's in staging, it'll presumably be moved to one of the less-crackbuild PPAs when it's been tested
[18:32] <alx5000> dax: understood, that's what i expected :D
[18:33] <alx5000> the problem is the backports ppas are still on 16.04
[18:34] <alx5000> "problem"
[18:36]  * dax nod
[18:37] <alx5000> thanks ;)
[19:30] <Fanfare> Hi @ all. Q: I have a file i can not delete... it is on a external hdd with a gpt partitiontable and ntfs filesystem.
[19:30] <Fanfare> ls -l gives: -????????? ? ? ? ?            ? Thumbs.db
[19:31] <Fanfare> Any hint how to get rid of that file without reformatting...
[19:53] <efeciftci> Fanfare: try if you can view inode number of that file by executing "ls -il"
[19:54] <efeciftci> inode numbers will be displayed in the 1st column of "ls -il" output
[19:56] <efeciftci> then you may execute the following command:    find . -inum INODE-NUMBER-HERE -exec rm {} \;
[19:56] <efeciftci> but be careful with that command :)
[20:11] <JonelethIrenicus> this is awesome https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.8.95.php
[20:31] <speeder> updated kubuntu to 15.04 (dunno why it went to that specific version) and now it boots but immediately crashes with sddm-greeter crashing
[20:31] <speeder> what now?
[20:35] <koffeinfriedhof> 15.04 is EOL, speeder. I would recommend a fresh installation with 16.04 or 16.10.
[20:36] <speeder> koffeinfriedhof: I just told it to update, and then it updated TO 15.04
[20:36] <Dragnslcr> Or if you can get a terminal, use do-release-upgrade to upgrade to at least 16.04
[20:36] <speeder> or rather, my dad did that
[20:36] <lordievader> speeder: What version did you have originally?
[20:36] <speeder> lordievader: I have no idea
[20:37] <koffeinfriedhof> you need historical sources (or how they are called) to get 15.04 nowadays...
[20:37] <lordievader> Dragnslcr: Don't think 15.04 can go to 16.04 directly.
[20:38] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, you'll probably have to upgrade to 15.10 then 16.04
[20:38] <lordievader> speeder: Hmm, perhaps you can upgrade directly, else try to go via 15.10 (if that is still possible). If that all does not work, I think the easiest is to (re)install 16.04.
[20:38] <speeder> tried typing do-release-upgrade, it said "no update from vivid to xenial"
[20:40] <speeder> do those 16.something versions support extremely old 32bit machines?
[20:40] <lordievader> speeder: If you are adventurous you can upgrade to 16.04 directly, but it might break (a lot) of things.
[20:40] <speeder> now my dad said that 15.04 was actually working for a while
[20:40] <speeder> and broke down "out of nowhere"
[20:47] <BluesKaj> !eol |  speeder
[20:47] <speeder> BluesKaj: that helps me how?
[20:48] <lordievader> speeder: See the last link ;)
[20:48] <speeder> ?
[20:49] <BluesKaj> 15.04 is no longer supported , back up your data and install anewer kubunyu like 16.04 or 16.10
[20:49] <lordievader> "Looking to upgrade from an EOL release?..."
[20:49] <BluesKaj> a newer kubuntu
[20:49] <speeder> the links ends at 12.04
[20:50] <lordievader> speeder: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[20:50] <BluesKaj> !16.04
[20:50] <speeder> lordievader: I am in that godamn link
[20:50] <speeder> it ends at 12.04
[20:50] <BluesKaj> !16.10
[20:50] <speeder> it doesn't has a path for how to update 15.04
[20:50] <BluesKaj> you can't
[20:51] <lordievader> speeder: It has generic instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Upgrading
[20:51] <lordievader> The adventurous path I had in mind earlier.
[20:51] <speeder> lordievader: I tried that, at least the ending part
[20:51] <lordievader> Update sources.list, then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade.
[20:52] <speeder> didn't worked
[20:52] <lordievader> What ending part?
[20:52] <speeder> apt-get update, then upgrade, then do-release
[20:53] <lordievader> Without updating the sources.list? Yeah, that step is crucial.
[20:54] <speeder> that sort of stuff is what make me cringe every time I see someone claiming Linux is ready for desktop use
[20:54] <speeder> all this trouble because the machine decided to refuse to boot out of nowhere
[20:54] <speeder> meanwhile the XP boot on the same machine is working just fine. (and it still updates even!)
[21:05] <BluesKaj> speeder, you have to keep track of the kubuntu releases.Linux is not like Windows which holds your hand and controls your OS at every turn. It's up to you to on Linux to pay attention to the new releases with all their benefits
[21:06] <speeder> BluesKaj: I don't mean that, what I mean is that it suddenly broke, and then to fix it requires an entire OS upgrade, it makes no sense, and to upgrade it, requires editing text files.
[21:06] <speeder> it is not "hand-holding", it is actively hostile to the user.
[21:07] <speeder> having to configure stuff yourself is one thing, having to dive in text files to do basic tasks is another level of non-usability
[21:07] <BluesKaj> speeder, it didn't break, 15.04 is just no longer supported
[21:08] <speeder> BluesKaj: so when it detects it is EOL is breaks on purpose?
[21:08] <speeder> wtf
[21:08] <BluesKaj> that's all i'm going to say about it
[21:08] <BluesKaj> do some research
[21:09] <speeder> ?
[21:09] <speeder> research about what?
[21:09] <BluesKaj> about kubuntu release schedules
[21:10] <BluesKaj> anyway I'm calling it a day
[21:14] <mattb_> Hello
[21:14] <mattb_> I have a problem with KDE and my network card
[21:14] <mattb_> I have a broadcom bcm4311 and I have tried installing the drivers multiple times and the wifi will not work on KDE
[21:52] <Fanfare> efeciftci: THX, ls -il also gives no usable info... "? -????????? ? ? ? ?            ? Thumbs.db" looks like the problem is deeper inside gpt table or ntfs filesystem...
[21:53] <samandar_> Fanfare, what's the issue?
[21:58] <Dragnslcr> Fanfare- do you get an error message when you try to delete the file with rm?
[21:59] <samandar_> Fanfare, what folder your file is in?
[22:00] <samandar_> Fanfare, does it show file does not exist when you try to delete it?
[22:03] <javi_> hi, trying to create a telegram online account from system settings but I get an error saying that I need a plugin called 'morse', how can I install that?
[22:23] <ceres> asd
[22:58] <Fanfare> samandar_: The file is in regular subfolders i can access... However when accessing the file Thumbs.db i get error message "Can't access file: IO Error and all infos shown as questionmarks...
[22:59] <genii> I'll bet if you do dmesg|tail  at that point you'd see read errors
[22:59] <genii> ( indicating the drive is going bad)
[23:02] <Fanfare> genii: thx, nothing comes up in dmesg or syslog when accessing that file...
[23:03] <Fanfare> oh, there is something...
[23:04] <Fanfare> Jan 13 00:00:18 RMW-Vaio ntfs-3g[27975]: Could not decode the type of inode 5334
[23:05] <genii> Corrupted.
[23:05] <genii> Fanfare: Do you have a windows install on it?
[23:06] <Fanfare> no, no system on it , pure data drive... but its one huge partition with ntfs... and a gpt
[23:08] <genii> Fanfare: Needs to have a filesystem check and fix. So requires to be unmounted and then to issue a sudo fsck.ntfs on it
[23:08] <Fanfare> i guess it was since an unclean unplug from a windows system...
[23:08] <Fanfare> so u thing fsck.ntfs can handle that?
[23:09] <genii> Actually, unfortunately there isn't one, sorry
[23:10] <genii> Fanfare: filesystem check of ntfs from linux is extremely problemmatic
[23:11] <Fanfare> so, better get a hand on a windows system somewhere... or does M$ offer a repair *.iso? :-)
[23:12] <genii> There is ntfsfix, which comes with ntfs-3g package, but it can only do simple fixes. Could try that first
[23:13] <genii> The other alternative is yes, find a Windows system to check it from
[23:13] <Fanfare> genii: +1 thx for the pointer... will invetigate... i schould have done smaller partitions .... but i was lazy....
[23:17] <genii> Fanfare: Well, also if you have a choice of filesystem, ntfs makes little sense if there's no Windows :)
[23:23] <Fanfare> It was chosen for portabillity and large files...
[23:24] <genii> exfat is a much better choice
[23:25] <Fanfare> exfat? doon't know that? files > 4GB native win support? Mac and Linux?
[23:28] <genii> Yep
[23:28] <genii> Also android
[23:28] <Fanfare> ok, i will check that for future considerations...
[23:56] <MrGrymReaper> Hello everyone.
[23:59] <MrGrymReaper> Could the the packages for owncloud from 16.10 please be backported to 16.04. For a future point release or update?