[05:42] <inetpro> goeie more
[05:54] <chesedo> dag inetpro and all others
[06:13] <Kilos> 0/
[06:14] <Kilos> evening superfly 
[06:14] <Kilos> bed time for you
[06:14] <Kilos> morning everyone else
[06:21] <chesedo> hi oom Kilos
[06:21] <Kilos> hi chesedo 
[06:35] <paddatrapper> \o
[06:35] <theblazehen> Morning
[06:36] <paddatrapper> morning theblazehen, chesedo, Kilos 
[06:38] <Kilos> hi paddatrapper theblazehen inetpro 
[06:52] <inetpro> hi Kilos
[06:52] <inetpro> you are late
[06:53] <Kilos> yeah was outside killing ants
[06:53] <Kilos> house was riddled with ants everywhere now slowly i getting rid of them
[06:54] <inetpro> cool, how are you doing it
[06:55] <Kilos> cypermethrin and sugar water poured into every nest
[06:55] <inetpro> ants are a real big problem
[06:55] <inetpro> but how do you find the nest?
[06:55] <Kilos> this way you get rid of whole nests at a time
[06:55] <MaNI> just follow the trail? lol
[06:56] <Kilos> you find an ant carrying some food back to nest and follow him and see the whole he goes into
[06:56] <Kilos> hehe
[06:56] <inetpro> ah, so that is where you spend all your time these days?
[06:57] <Kilos> when i got here you had to eat a sarmy immediately or it go cover in ants, now even a chocolate can be left open on a table
[06:57] <Kilos> im trying to clear the whole surrounding area as well
[06:58] <Kilos> the tings were in the walls and ceiling even
[06:58] <inetpro> well done!
[06:58] <Kilos> every crack in plaster and paint and every tiny hole had ants in
[06:59] <inetpro> sjoe, sounds real bad
[06:59] <Kilos> they even bore through plaster them little thing
[07:00] <Kilos> lekker inside now but they like making new colonies in paving every few days so its an ongoing battle
[07:01] <MaNI> you should try the borax/sugar thing - apparently they take it all back to the colony with them and then it kills them from the inside
[07:02] <Kilos> i gotta be away a bit
[07:02] <Kilos> ian needs teamviewer
[07:09] <Kilos> yay done
[07:09] <Kilos> ill look into the borax thing ty MaNI 
[07:50] <nsnzero> morning all
[08:04] <Kilos> hi nsnzero 
[08:14] <inetpro> Kilos: just go after the queen
[08:15] <inetpro> the queen is the only ant that can lay eggs
[08:31] <Kilos> yes inetpro but she is deep in the hole and im not digging to hunt
[08:32] <Kilos> better just kill the whole nest
[09:20] <Langjan> Hi everybody
[09:28] <Langjan> Kilos, did you sort the welders out?
[09:29] <inetpro> goeiemore Langjan
[09:30] <inetpro> he's probably hunting ants
[09:31] <Langjan> Hello inetpro how are you doing?
[09:31] <inetpro> good and yourself?
[09:31] <Langjan> Very well thks
[09:31] <Langjan> Bosveld s pragtig na al die reën
[09:31] <inetpro> 01/12 08:52:46 <inetpro> you are late
[09:31] <inetpro> 01/12 08:53:07 <Kilos> yeah was outside killing ants
[09:32] <Langjan> you were right about the ants inetpro 
[09:32] <inetpro> mooi man, hoop ons kry nog opvolg reen
[09:32] <Langjan> Ja, amen!
[09:32] <Langjan> Kilos, you must weld their burrows
[09:34] <Langjan> A q for the geeks plse re backup utility
[10:07] <Kilos> lol
[10:07] <Kilos> whats the prob Langjan 
[10:07] <Kilos> there is dejadup
[10:12] <Langjan> Hi Kilos Yes its about dejadup
[10:12] <Langjan> It stores backups in a compacted format
[10:13] <Langjan> then its difficult to find anything
[10:14] <Langjan> you seem to have to restore everything - seems like an overkill in many situations
[10:14] <Langjan> gotta go have lunch quickly
[10:15] <Kilos> enjoy
[10:25] <Langjan> Seems much easier to just manually backup home folder
[10:26] <Kilos> yip
[10:26] <Kilos> i used dejadup once and it worked well i think
[10:26] <Kilos> not sure how it did the backup but i was impressed
[10:29] <Langjan> Impressed by what?
[10:32] <Kilos> it did a good job iirc but forgotten how i used it
[10:32] <Kilos> it backup up everything i think including passwords etc
[10:32] <Kilos> and settings
[10:33] <Langjan> OK well it seems to be a waste of time because all that is done when I back up home folder
[10:33] <Kilos> lol
[10:34] <Langjan> Lmga, but seriously!   
[10:34] <Kilos> how do you backup /home
[10:35] <jerit_> mv -f /home /backup ?
[10:35] <jerit_> or maybe
[10:35] <Langjan> Copy and paste.
[10:35] <jerit_> sudo mv -f /home /backup
[10:36] <Kilos> i use rsync
[10:36] <Langjan> I just right- click on folder and copy 
[10:36] <Langjan> then paste where I want it to be backed up, external or storage drive
[10:37] <Kilos> and next  week?
[10:37] <Kilos> same thing into same place?
[10:37] <Kilos> rsync syncs the changes
[10:38] <jerit_> who has the money to buy enough storage to backup every week
[10:38] <Kilos> rsync just adds changes to same backup
[10:38] <Langjan> Depends, if there is something I want to keep like .thunderbird, I can paste it separately the delete home and replace with new version
[10:39] <Kilos> sudo rsync -av /home/ /media/miles/backup/
[10:40] <Langjan> I usually do it once a month and in between do what comes up
[10:40] <Langjan> What does that do Kilos ?
[10:40] <Kilos> it syncs whats missing into your backup
[10:41] <Langjan> OK handy gadget
[10:41] <Kilos> can be done daily even for totallly up to date backup
[10:41] <MaNI> with a dedup filesystem you could in theory backup quite frequently without it bloating completely out of proportion
[10:42] <Kilos> yeah dejadup had that function to do it automagically iirc
[10:44] <Langjan> OK guys going to charge my batteries, playing a competition this afternoon, take good care  
[10:44] <Kilos> enjoy
[10:44] <Langjan> thks Kilos 
[10:44] <Kilos> good luck
[10:44] <Langjan> dankie
[10:44] <Kilos> play well
[10:45] <Kilos> ain properly
[10:45] <Kilos> aim
[10:45] <Langjan> Will try but those bowls keep going skew...
[10:45] <Kilos> hahaha
[10:45] <Langjan> serious
[10:45] <Langjan> lmga
[10:46] <Kilos> yes man thats where you gotta member how much they turn and where
[10:46] <Langjan> Keep forgetting
[10:46] <Kilos> lol
[10:46] <Langjan> whats the name of that condition?
[10:46] <Kilos> go rest
[10:46] <Langjan> mooi loop my vriend
[10:46] <Kilos> altzies
[10:46] <Langjan> ja
[10:46] <Kilos> jy ook dankie
[10:46] <Langjan> so iets
[10:46] <Langjan> wat nou weer?
[10:46] <Kilos> hahaha
[11:54] <Kilos> hmm... scrappy net connection
[12:01] <jerit_> Since my bitcoin investment doubled, I withdrew my initial deposit (deposit = x, value reached x*2 so I withdrew x) ... basically gave me x value invested for free and so now that I've got my initial commitment back, I find I'm not so worried anymore about how the investment is doing
[12:03] <MaNI> thats usually a good strategy for things that are similar to gambling :)
[12:07] <jerit_> Gambling would be if I'd invested with the hope that it'd become profitable after I put my money in
[12:08] <jerit_> as it is, it was already profitable when I put my money in
[12:12] <jerit_> wish I had more income so I can buy property to rent out. Easy R6k income per month
[12:31] <MaNI> I wasn't specifically saying it was gambling, bitcoin is a high risk investment, not gambling, though there are some parallels between the two.
[12:32] <MaNI> was just saying that this strategy works also in gambling situations, and isn't a bad one to employ on a high risk investment either.
[13:48] <jerit_> MaNI how weird is that then... My first ever actual investment is in a high risk vehicle haha
[13:48] <jerit_> and I even crushed it as well
[13:48] <jerit_> Didn't have a lot to invest so I haven't made a lot of money either but still, I'm up at least 200 bucks which given my cashflow situation as a whole, is not insignificant
[13:55] <MaNI> right
[13:56] <MaNI> I've made quite a bit on bitcoin myself, so it is pretty nifty
[13:58] <MaNI> but nonetheless high risk, think of the people who bought while it was up at R16500 - they definitely aren't happy right now, hehe
[13:59] <MaNI> being somewhat sensible helps a lot though
[14:22] <jerit_> if they didn't sell when they saw it drop, they deserve to lose it
[17:00] <Kilos> sigh, bad bad internet, and telkom says they are investigating it. since december already
[17:00] <Kilos> sigh
[17:00] <Kilos> more is nog n dag
[19:11] <Langjan> Hi guys, just been watching Voetspore in Madagascar on TV2, interestingly Johan Badenhorst and his team are using Ubuntu.  
[19:11] <Langjan> On their laptops
[19:12] <Langjan> Also check this: https://bartongeorge.io/2017/01/09/welcome-the-new-ubuntu-based-precision-line-up-mobile-workstations-plus-a-new-all-in-one/
[19:28] <Kilos> wow
[19:29] <Kilos> clever van der merwes
[19:30] <Langjan> Hi Kilos jys seker reg vir die bed oom
[19:31] <Kilos> ja lankal maar ian is nog ie tuis nie en ek het die groot hek se remote
[19:31] <Kilos> ai!
[19:31] <Kilos> kinders
[19:31] <Langjan> ek ook, lang dag
[19:31] <Langjan> ai
[19:32] <Kilos> my internet was siek vandag
[19:32] <Kilos> ure af gewees
[19:32] <Langjan> Dis lastig
[19:32] <Kilos> ja groot pein
[19:32] <Kilos> hoekom is jy so laat wakker
[19:33] <Kilos> het jy gewen?
[19:33] <Langjan> Ek slaap nooit voor so 10:30 na 11 nie
[19:33] <Langjan> ons het altwee gewen dankie
[19:33] <Kilos> oh ja hulle se ouer mense het minder slaap nodig
[19:33] <Langjan> parespel mans en dames
[19:33] <Kilos> mooi so man
[19:33] <Langjan> jy sal weet...
[19:33] <Kilos> goed gedoen
[19:34] <Langjan> dankie
[19:34] <Langjan>  finals on tuesday
[19:34] <Kilos> sjoe dan moet jy goed uitrus
[19:34] <Kilos> seker lam in die arm
[19:34] <Langjan> Speel die naweek teen Mpumalanga in Witrivier
[19:34] <Kilos> sjoe
[19:35] <Langjan> ry more 09:30 
[19:35] <Kilos> besig ne
[19:35] <Kilos> pc kry kans om te rus
[19:35] <Langjan> Ja hou ons uit kattekwaad. kon jy die sweisers regkry?
[19:36] <Kilos> nie eers ou weer lekker
[19:36] <Langjan> ?
[19:36] <Kilos> nie vandag gekyk nie
[19:36] <Langjan> ok
[19:37] <Kilos> was ietwat moeg
[19:37] <Langjan> ai
[19:37] <Kilos> maar nou weer lekker
[19:37] <Langjan> hoop Ian kom gou latjy kan gaan slaap
[19:37] <Kilos> ek ook ja dankie
[19:37] <Kilos> kinders dink nie
[19:37] <Langjan> Ok sterkte daar gesels weer later
[19:38] <Kilos> ok damkie oompie
[19:38] <Kilos> goed rus as jy gaan slaap
[19:38] <Langjan> my plesier seuntjie
[19:38] <Kilos> haha
[19:38] <Langjan> dankie jy ook
[19:38] <Langjan> lmga
[19:38] <Kilos> danke