[00:00] <Ben64> neeca: ln -s ~/PATH/do.sh ~/Desktop/
[00:00] <promet> I am running the repo driver, does anyone know if a proprietary Nvidia driver might expect to see some practical change in compiz' function?
[00:00] <neeca> Ben64: ty :3
[00:00] <Ben64> neeca: may or may not work
[00:00] <gustavohmsilva> anyway, now, that he is working, I'm thinking in a way to make him like a daemon... Just change him automatically when I turn the laptop into a tablet. So, since the keyboard get's disabled when I turn the screen, I was thinking that this would be the way to go... The problem is... Althrough the keyboard stop working, there's no message when this happens in the dmesg...
[00:01] <gustavohmsilva> Do anyone know another way to check if a onboard keyboard disapear on the shell?
[00:01] <gustavohmsilva> This may be the way to go when solving this automation, since the laptop doesn't have an accelerometer
[00:02] <gustavohmsilva> anyone?
[00:02] <tatertots> promet: apt list --installed|grep nvid|nc termbin.com 9999
[00:03] <tatertots> promet: open terminal and run the command above, then share the url/link here
[00:03] <promet> tatertots, roger that, standby; and thank you
[00:04] <coffeeguy> Anyone run Xeoma in Ubuntu 16.04.1?
[00:04] <bazhang> !info xeoma
[00:04] <bazhang> what is xeoma
[00:05] <promet> tatertots, http://termbin.com/2eca
[00:05] <coffeeguy> ip cam security software
[00:05] <bazhang> whats the real question
[00:06] <coffeeguy> Want to set up motion detection my ip cams
[00:06] <coffeeguy> on*
[00:06] <coffeeguy> you know like blue iris or iSpy
[00:07] <tatertots> promet: hmm looks kinda interesting there, you might want to install inxi, it can be found in software manager, and because it's in the official ubuntu repository you can install it using your favorite install method.
[00:08] <promet> tatertots, thanks! I will check inxi out...
[00:08] <gustavohmsilva> lspci lsusb and dmesg show no change when the keyboard get's disabled and enabled
[00:08] <Ben64> gustavohmsilva: it's probably a hardware thing then
[00:09] <tatertots> promet: let me know if you get it installed, you should definitely take a look at your config
[00:09] <promet> tatertots, roger, roger...
[00:09] <bazhang> !info zoneminder
[00:09] <gustavohmsilva> Ben64: damm, if that is the change, there's no way to change the screen orientation automatically
[00:09] <FoeHammered> Found it. Found an *applicable* log, which was harder than it should be for reasons best not described, and followed the log.
[00:10] <bazhang> try that coffeeguy
[00:10] <gustavohmsilva> Ben64: This really is a bummer! No way to automate the screen orientation :/
[00:10] <FoeHammered> Again, nacc, Walex, thanks.
[00:11] <gustavohmsilva> if anyone use a reversible laptop as well, here is the repo: https://github.com/gustavohmsilva/Screen-Rotation-Script-for-Acer-Aspire-R-11
[00:11] <gustavohmsilva> I would appreciate any feedback
[00:13] <promet> tatertots, it is very "feature rich", I'm thinking -G (graphics) and -v "mouthiness" are there any other flags that you like, just off the top of your head?
[00:13] <tatertots> promet: in terminal do the following
[00:13] <tatertots> promet: inxi -Fxxrzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[00:14] <tatertots> promet: press enter
[00:14] <tatertots> promet: share url/link here
[00:14] <tatertots> promet: the link contains nothing unique to your person
[00:16] <bjrohan> I had proxychains 3 on my system, which ran when called by proxychains. I have uninstalled it, and made proxychains4, which gets called by proxychains4, how can I changed it to get called by proxychains instead?
[00:16] <VulcanJedi> I'm following these instructions (https://www.bonusbits.com/wiki/HowTo:Add_Missing_or_Custom_Display_Resolution_on_Ubuntu) to fix my resolution problem, but received this message attempting to add the new resolution "cannot find mode "1280x1024_60.00""
[00:17] <bjrohan> do I make an aliea in .bashrc?
[00:17] <promet> tatertots, hmmm, seems to be a nouveau complaint: http://termbin.com/h41k
[00:19] <tatertots> promet: yes i knew something was wrong
[00:19] <tatertots> promet: would you like to stop now or do you want to continue?
[00:20] <promet> If you have an instinct about nouveau, I'd love to hear it. I formerly used proprietary, but got tired of re-upping at kernel changes
[00:21] <tatertots> promet: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|nc termbin.com 9999
[00:22] <promet> tatertots, yes, 'drm': http://termbin.com/2jla
[00:23] <ubuntusa> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a custom comp with a maximus v gene motherboard. I get to the options menu via the installer on usb. After that the screen loads and then turns black. Tried nomodset
[00:23] <ubuntusa> Can anyone help me get this installed?
[00:25] <tatertots> promet: ubuntu-drivers list|nc termbin.com 9999
[00:27] <promet> Hmmm seems not to like that, reports. "Use netcat" and an io.TextIOWrapper - Broken Pipe
[00:28] <tatertots> promet: ubuntu-drivers list > ~/nfo.nfo
[00:28] <tatertots> promet: you won't see anything just let me know when it's been completed
[00:29] <tatertots> promet: your installation of the proprietary nvidia driver did not complete successfully
[00:30] <promet> tatertots, http://termbin.com/yhyb
[00:30] <promet> tatertots, thought I had properly removed it before I "resorted" to nouveau. I will have a second look at that though...
[00:31] <promet> by removed I mean "uninstalled" via the proprietary ncurses dialogue
[00:31] <tatertots> promet: (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[00:33] <tatertots> promet: also a normal healthy proprietary nvidia driver installation would show more here http://termbin.com/2eca
[00:33] <tatertots> promet: dmesg|nc termbin.com 9999
[00:34] <promet> tatertots, http://termbin.com/ymo3
[00:35] <Speiros> ubuntusa Hi mate.  So what's happening?  And what do you mean by options menu via USB installer?  Is that the option to run from disk or to install?
[00:36] <Speiros> ubuntusa I mean, the options to select from either of those two?
[00:37] <ubuntusa> Speiros hey. So I selected to run without installing. Thought it might be the usb so I'm trying to find another. It won't let me format to fat32 and is taking about bad sectors
[00:37] <zacky83> hi everybody , is syslog writing in memory or on a disk file ?
[00:37] <ubuntusa> Give me a sec, sry
[00:37] <tatertots> promet: nouveau and the nvidia proprietary driver cannot co exist, and in your system you still have some left overs from a previous proprietary nvidia installation.
[00:37] <Speiros> ubuntusa No problem.  It makes sense.
[00:38] <promet> tatertots, you think a proper uninstall from the propietary install script might clear those?
[00:38] <tatertots> promet: i would think you would have noticed poor performance using GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NV117
[00:39] <tatertots> promet: but if you don't do any heavy 3d stuff you maybe wouldn't have noticed
[00:39] <promet> tatertots, the performance hit, seems to be recent, to me, and manifests mostly as buggy compiz
[00:39] <promet> tatertots, likely
[00:40] <tatertots> promet: well yeah i bet it's crappy with GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NV117
[00:40] <zacky83> ??? nobody can help me on syslog ?
[00:40] <promet> tatertots, so your basic thought would be to remove leftover proprietary drivers pieces?
[00:40] <tatertots> promet: first clean up all the left over nvidia stuff from your computer, reboot, make sure no more errors are present in reference to the proprietary driver
[00:41] <tatertots> promet: like this one (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[00:41] <promet> tatertots, roger that, let me give it a go. Thanks very much for your help!
[00:41] <tatertots> promet: once you get all that cleared out and reboot we can determine if nouveau still complains on your inxi
[00:42] <Bashing-om> zacky83: The logs - for the most part are in /var/log/ . syslog is there .
[00:42] <tatertots> promet: no problem
[00:42] <zacky83> Bashim-om: is there a way to read syslog not in a file on disk but in memory ?
[00:44] <Bashing-om> zacky83: Memory is 'dmesg' .
[00:45] <zacky83> Bashim-om: can you explain me that ? because I also see a log file with dmesg
[00:47] <Bashing-om> zacky83: That is both .. dmesg also writes out to files . Terminal command 'dmesg' will write to standard out (display) what it has presently .
[00:48] <zacky83> Bashim-om: in fact I need to retieve the warning and notice from asterisk in Java
[00:48] <ubuntusa> Speiros hey I'm back
[00:49] <ubuntusa> Speiros so I have it on a new usb
[00:49] <zacky83> Bashim-om: but I don't know how to get the output of asterisk console in java
[00:49] <Speiros> ubuntusa:)
[00:49] <tatertots> promet: either remove them or reinstall the proprietary nvidia driver, which you may want to do anyway if you do any video games or 3d acceleration stuff
[00:49] <Speiros> Ok, I've never done personally a USB install, but I've heard the principle is the same.
[00:49] <Bashing-om> zacky83: I do not know java or where it writes to .
[00:49] <ubuntusa> Speiros should I try nomodeset?
[00:49] <Speiros> ubuntusa I don't know what that does sorry.  Someone else in here would though.
[00:51] <ubuntusa> Can someone help me install ubuntu on my computer? Getting black screen after a quick flash of a login screen (terminal)
[00:53] <ubuntusa> If I boot with no acpi and acpi = off I get hung up on a message that reads, "end kernel panic"
[00:55] <Speiros> ubuntusa Here's a link that has a bit of info on it, if it helps. https://askubuntu.com/questions/139157/booting-ubuntu-with-acpi-off-grub-parameter#139174
[00:56] <ubuntusa> Thanks speiros
[00:56] <Speiros> ubuntusa That is regarding the acpi being off.
[00:56] <Speiros> Let me know if it helps:)
[00:56] <ubuntusa> Nothing seems to be working :/
[00:57] <Speiros> ubuntusa What reason are you turning acpi off?
[00:58] <ubuntusa> Speiros trying to get past this black screen. I'm trying to install ubuntu and get a black screen after I select to either install directly or boot live
[00:58] <Speiros> ubuntusa I see, so it's happening both if it is and isn't on.  I didn't realise that.
[00:58] <ubuntusa> Yes
[00:59] <ubuntusa> Idk what to do
[00:59] <Ateu> greetings from brazil
[00:59] <Speiros> Ok, Hopefully there's an article already written, which hopefully I can direct you to.
[00:59] <ubuntusa> brasil
[00:59] <Speiros> Hello Ateu:)
[00:59] <ubuntusa> Thanks speiros
[01:00] <ubuntusa> I don't have a computer to look around with right now lol
[01:00] <Ateu> hello Speiros, where are you from?
[01:00] <bazhang> ubuntu support issue Ateu ?
[01:00] <ubuntusa> brasil
[01:00] <DreamSh0t> is this an appropriate place for a question regarding remmina?
[01:01] <Ateu> do you like my land ubuntusa?
[01:01] <Speiros> ubuntusa Try this link, and see if it's useful mate. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2113516
[01:01] <bazhang> !ot | Ateu
[01:02] <bazhang> ubuntusa, ateu please take the chat to a social channel
[01:02] <Speiros> ubuntusa It's an older one, so hopefully I can find a more uptodate one, but still, I wonder if it helps.
[01:02] <DreamSh0t> where can i ask a general question regarding remmina?
[01:02] <bazhang> DreamSh0t, what is the remmina issue you are having
[01:03] <DreamSh0t> i just would liike to know whether remmina encrypts VNC connections
[01:03] <DreamSh0t> before i use remote deskto to my Mac over the internet
[01:05] <ubuntusa> Speiros it just says to use nomodeset
[01:05] <Speiros> ubuntusa Ok...
[01:05] <ubuntusa> Speiros sry. All ready tried that and I get the same result
[01:06] <ubuntusa> Is the fact that I'm using a geforce 1080 relevant?
[01:06] <ubuntusa> I feel like my gpu might be too new
[01:06] <Speiros> ubuntusa I'm not sure about the new bit, but when you get a black screen, I take it there are no options on there, yes?
[01:08] <ubuntusa> Correct
[01:08] <Speiros> ubuntusa Here's one which is addressing your problem, I think, but I think if you look, you'll see it clearer.  https://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it
[01:09] <d3ngar> Hi, I seem to have a problem with my PGP key, I cannot seem to sign something as my key isn't found. Anyone's got experience with that?
[01:20] <Speiros> ubuntusa There's another one too.  Sorry, but I can only direct you to the pages, as I personally don't know the answer.  https://askubuntu.com/questions/470492/ubuntu-14-04-black-screen-when-installing
[01:25] <Speiros> ubuntusa Apparently, one person recently had success by changing their USB ports to the back.
[01:39] <sh0rtbus> ok, i could use some help, anyone there?
[01:39] <guyFromWeb> hey, can i ask a question that is not associated with Ubuntu? i figured you guys could know how to do it
[01:40] <guyFromWeb> oh well
[01:40] <guyFromWeb> hey, i know this is not the perfect place to ask, but you guys know computers so i'm gonna try. we have our Chromebooks in school that have some blocked websites, and we liked to play this game called "Happy Wheels". the totaljerkface.com is blocked, but we found a site that worked (http://198.61.245.54/ (cannot guarantee site safety)), but was blocked recently. my question is, how was that site i provided made? it's like the offi
[01:40] <bazhang> try #ubuntu-offtopic guyFromWeb
[01:41] <bazhang> sh0rtbus, did you have an ubuntu support issue
[01:41] <golden_ticket> I'm trying to get Ubuntu to recognize an HDD I just plugged in via sata and it doesn't seem to be able to see it.
[01:41] <golden_ticket> Any ideas?
[01:46] <sh0rtbus> this is my second attempt to get the f%&# away from windows, last time i installed ubuntu the screen constntly flickered to the point of a headache, tried to switch to nvidia driver and screen blacked out and that was the end of that. had to remove ubuntu which i did wrong and created a seperate headache (deleted grub menu), figured out how to fix that mess but i want to try again now, would
[01:46] <sh0rtbus> rather have a little help this time before i even start. im not extremely tech savvy. i have a usb bootable drive but dont want to install without the help to fix the flickering, yes the "try ubuntu" still flickers
[01:46] <sievert> Hi all! I have a question, if i input in terminal "sudo apt full-upgrade", this command upgrade my system from 16.04 to 16.10?
[01:47] <Bashing-om> !upgrade | sievert
[01:48] <Bashing-om> sievert: Sorry wrong bot ping . shoet answer is no - dist-upgrade only updates installed packages . a release upgrade is a different command ,
, thank you!
[01:49] <sh0rtbus> ? shoet =short?
[01:50] <bazhang> sh0rtbus, ubuntu support issue?
[01:50] <golden_ticket> sh0rtbus, what seems to be the problem?
[01:50] <sh0rtbus> the flickering
[01:50] <golden_ticket> Need help installing or what?
[01:50] <golden_ticket> Ah okay.
[01:50] <golden_ticket> tell me about your hardware
[01:51] <sh0rtbus> such s, is there an easy way or i gotta type it, also what do you need to know
[01:51] <sh0rtbus> s=as
[01:51] <golden_ticket> sh0rtbus, is the screen flickering while you use chrome, or  all of the time?
[01:52] <sh0rtbus> from the start it flickers before and after install
[01:52] <sh0rtbus> seems random
[01:52] <golden_ticket> sh0rtbus, so ubuntu is not installed?
[01:52] <sh0rtbus> not this time yet
[01:52] <sh0rtbus>  i will if i get help
[01:53] <golden_ticket> sh0rtbus, so it flickers and then what? Black screen?
[01:53] <golden_ticket> Does it ever successfully install?
[01:53] <sh0rtbus> nah just flickers, sometimes it stops for awhile but starts again
[01:53] <golden_ticket> sh0rtbus, nah what? nah it doesn't install? Does the screen stay black or does it just continue to flicker?
[01:54] <golden_ticket> sh0rtbus, clearly describe the problem and I'll brb
[01:54] <golden_ticket> Go into full detail
[01:54] <golden_ticket> So I can properly help you
[01:54] <sh0rtbus> nah = no black screen, i can install it and come bck but igotta use windows for mirc
[01:55] <sh0rtbus> its like a strobe light on ubuntu
[01:56] <sh0rtbus> since youre there ill install it and come back in a few golden_ticket
[01:57] <golden_ticket> sh0rtbus, so you did install it.
[01:57] <sh0rtbus> once before i did
[01:57] <golden_ticket> sh0rtbus, if you have a phone just install an irc client on it and connect
[01:57] <sh0rtbus> "crashed it" tryin to fix the flicker
[01:57] <golden_ticket> sh0rtbus, are you using a usb for install?
[01:57] <sh0rtbus> yeah
[01:57] <golden_ticket> sh0rtbus, boot into the usb and hang tight
[01:58] <golden_ticket> I need to turn my computer off for a moment
[01:58] <apes> Using Ubuntu 14.04 I have two search domains in my /etc/resolv.conf, but only the first one seems to work, anyone know what the deal is? Works in 16.04.
[01:58] <golden_ticket> use your phone to get an irc client, connect here and wait for me to return
[01:58] <sh0rtbus> ok, ill try to find a phone irc, never tried before though
[01:58] <linhai> hello
[01:59] <ov3rwatch> okay im getting super annoyed. no matter swhat i do, i cannot get jar files to open using java instead of the archive manager.
[02:00] <ov3rwatch> i have jre 6 and 7 and i alwasy choose 7 in the context menu, my other applications option does not have a button for make default
[02:00] <ov3rwatch> and no matter how many time s i do it in right click i cannoy make jre7 the default
[02:01] <ov3rwatch> anyone have any suggestions?
[02:06] <apes> Looks like it's actually a networking permissions issue
[02:10] <waltman> This bug happened to me last night after installing the 4.8.0-34 kernel. Looks like a repeat of the bug I cited in there. I don't even have kwallet installed! https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2349132
[02:12] <waltman> It also seems really strange to me that a point release to the kernel should have such an effect on my ability to log in via the desktop.
[02:18] <Phanes> where is ubuntu on the path to LSB 5 compliance? i know it said it dropped the standard but how off is it
[02:24] <ZJAY> im trying to install mpd does anyone know where a .deb or other binary might be for 16.04 or 16.10 or howto install boostlib
[02:25] <ubuntu-mate_> hello
[02:26] <ubuntu-mate_> hi
[02:27] <ZJAY> also anyone know if conkyWeather still works or works again
[02:28] <sh0rtbus> golden_ticket bailed huh?
[02:29] <ubuntu-mate_>  golden_ticket bailed huh?
[02:30] <ubuntu-mate_> bulshit
[02:30] <Ben64> watch the language in this channel
[02:31] <ZJAY> ubuntu-mate_ What was with that possible malicious file you just tried to push to me/
[02:32] <ubuntu-mate_> just testting xchat
[02:32] <ZJAY> please dont do it again..
[02:32] <ubuntu-mate_> any prob
[02:32] <ubuntu-mate_> where r u from
[02:33] <Ben64> !ot | ubuntu-mate_
[02:34] <sh0rtbus> im gonna install it, hope i can get some help when ubuntu turns into my own personal strobe light
[02:35] <ubuntu-mate_> is ubuntu stabe
[02:35] <ubuntu-mate_> stable
[02:35] <Ben64> yes
[02:35] <kankusht> good evening
[02:36] <ZJAY> anyone know howto install Music Player Demon (aka MPD) on ubuntu?
[02:36] <sh0rtbus> be back soon
[02:36] <kankusht> does anyone know how to get rid of or deactivate the kiosk mode on ubuntu studio?
[02:36] <ZJAY> sorry daemon
[02:36] <Ben64> ZJAY: sudo apt-get install mpd
[02:37] <Bashing-om> !info mpd xenial | ZJAY
[02:47] <kankusht> puki
[02:49] <kankusht> interesting
[02:55] <ubuntu-mate_> may I use RedHat for personal cumputing
[02:55] <ubuntu-mate_> computing
[02:56] <cfhowlett> redhat is not ubunretu  so is not supported or discussed he
[02:57] <NoSleep> yo
[02:58] <jeffcas> some help with ubuntu 16.01 console ?
[02:58] <cfhowlett> !help | jeffcas
[02:58] <jeffcas> 16.10
[03:00] <Speiros> ubuntu-mate_ try #redhat
[03:05] <jeffcas> i type seems like ^R ^O ^O ^T or whatever. I've try leave tty. some help
[03:06] <Bashing-om> jeffcas: ' exit ' ?
[03:07] <jeffcas> whatever I type seems like ^T ^H ^I ^S
[03:08] <mukluks> jeffcas: are you holding down CTRL?
[03:09] <cfhowlett> jeffcas, all type everywhere or only in the terminal
[03:09] <jeffcas> only in the terminal
[03:14] <jeffcas> im not holding down ctrl
[03:15] <mukluks> jeffcas: is your CTRL key stuck?
[03:15] <Myogui> Anyone know how to get a Linksys AE2500 wireless adapter to work on ubuntu?
[03:16] <cfhowlett> !details | Myogui
[03:16] <Myogui> using ndiswrapper?
[03:17] <Myogui> I followed the instructions said driver was successfully installed just don't have internet
[03:17] <Myogui> ubuntu desktop
[03:18] <Myogui> I downloaded both wrapper and windows device drivers
[03:19] <jeffcas> mukluks: keyboard is working good.
[03:19] <Myogui> does anyone know of any commands that I can use in ubuntu like wifi network and such?
[03:21] <sh0rtbus> im looking for help
[03:22] <sh0rtbus> installed ubuntu and the screen constntly flickers, ive done nothing yet to see if i can get help first, any takers?
[03:23] <tatertots> Myogui: hi
[03:23] <tatertots> Myogui: do you have internet on the computer from other means, like wired connection?
[03:26] <avis> is it true on mac mini you can install a iso from grub and boot from it if you DISOWN aesthethics ?
[03:26] <avis> even on grub2 64bit efi ?
[03:28] <avis> i'd like to help with ubuntu development how is its progress ?
[03:28] <sh0rtbus> ..........
[03:28] <sh0rtbus> nothin?
[03:29] <avis> couple days
[03:30] <Morino> hello
[03:30] <Bashing-om> avdi: Maybe : see; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot . on a MAc I do not know though .
[03:31] <cipher6> ben64
[03:31] <sh0rtbus> hello?
[03:31] <cipher6> Ben64, You on here and willing to explain a bash concept?
[03:31] <cipher6> Or tatertots: ?
[03:32] <Morino> i am new here. Can anyone help?
[03:32] <cipher6> Can someone explain what $: cat << EOF > Foofile.txt does?
[03:32] <jeffcas> mukluks: I reboot the server and it's fine again. Nothing was working with the issue
[03:32] <cipher6> Morino, what's up?
[03:34] <mukluks> jeffcas: how do you connect to the server? keyboard? ssh? vnc?
[03:34] <Morino> I am good Cipher. You?
[03:35] <cipher6> Morino, Good, how can we help you?
[03:35] <cipher6> Morino, Also, to make the IRC client call out to a user when you msg them, type their name then a : (I think)
[03:35] <Morino> I am totally new to backbox and what it entails and so I will be glad to learn
[03:36] <fayed> hello
[03:36] <Bashing-om> !tab | Morino cipher6
[03:37] <fayed> anyone one?
[03:37] <jeffcas> mukluks: vnc
[03:37] <Morino> hello fayed
[03:37] <cipher6> Morino: Unfortunately, this is an Ubuntu support room. I'm not sure what help we'd be for BackBox...
[03:37] <fayed> hello morino....where youre come from?
[03:37] <mukluks> jeffcas: vnc probably thought the CTRL key was held down, can probably just restart VNC next time
[03:37] <sh0rtbus> no help at all?
[03:38] <cipher6> Morino: Looks like BackBox's support goes through a forum at https://backbox.org/community
[03:38] <fayed> heyy morino are you newbie in backbox
[03:39] <mukluks> sh0rtbus: screen flickers.. hmmm
[03:39] <mukluks> !details sh0rtbus
[03:39] <Morino> yes I am @fayed
[03:39] <sh0rtbus> yea i wanna get away from windows but this is stopping me
[03:39] <cipher6> Bashing-om Can we run backbox help through this channel...?
[03:39] <Morino> but Ciper, can you help? pls
[03:39] <cipher6> Morino: How did you end up here?
[03:40] <mukluks> sh0rtbus: what video card?
[03:40] <fayed> morino where you come from?
[03:40] <Bashing-om> cipher6: No backbox here
[03:40] <Bashing-om> !backbox
[03:40] <sh0rtbus> mukluks gimme a sec to get exact info
[03:40] <Morino> i read computer science and heard about kali linux and backbox and decided to  learn about it and what it is used for
[03:40] <cipher6> Morino: Idk anything about BB. If you tell go to #backbox they should be able to assist
[03:41] <Morino> I dont really get your question @fayed
[03:41] <Morino> what do you know about @cipher6
[03:41] <cipher6> Morino: I know about Ubuntu, ;)
[03:41] <fayed> I dont understand about this backbox because I am newbie
[03:42] <sh0rtbus> GeForce 8200M G mukluks
[03:42] <Morino> Oh okay. Do you mind teaching me?
[03:42] <Morino> Oh okay Fayed> I guess you are like me then? newbies
[03:42] <cipher6> Morino: Do you have a copy of a linux disk?
[03:42] <sh0rtbus> ubuntu is using a different driver mukluks
[03:42] <cipher6> Fayed: Do you have a copy of a linux live disk?
[03:43] <fayed> hey cipher6 I have do it
[03:43] <mukluks> sh0rtbus: have you tried System Settings / Software & Updates / Additional Drivers ?
[03:43] <Morino> I can download it if i get the link
[03:43] <Morino> What's the link
[03:44] <cipher6> Morino: Go to the private chat you sent me
[03:44] <Morino> fayed, cipher, can i pm you both? pls?
[03:44] <Ben64> !pm | Morino
[03:44] <Ben64> although, you are in the wrong channel
[03:44] <cipher6> Ben64 they're asking for assistance re: BackBox, it wouldn't benefit the channel
[03:44] <cipher6> Yeah, what you said lol
[03:44] <Ben64> i read backwards
[03:45] <cipher6> Ben64: Can you help me understand a line?   $:cat << EOF > Foo.txt
[03:45] <cipher6> I know that > sends output/strings to a file.
[03:45] <sh0rtbus> mukluks ill try it, last time the screen went black and i couldnt fix it. ill jump on with another laptop and try it again to see see what happens, gimmie a sec
[03:45] <cipher6> And I know cat "concatenates" a file (displays the output)
[03:45] <Ben64> cipher6: that's missing something
[03:46] <cipher6> Ben64, I just ran it, it works fine,
[03:46] <Morino> okay @ ubottu
[03:46] <cipher6> But why does it give me >'s after each return, and then only end the file when i type EOF? I don't understand why it works, only that it does
[03:47] <Ben64> cipher6: missing context
[03:48] <cipher6> Ben64: If I run $: cat << EOF > Foo.txt, it drops to the next carriage and has a >,
[03:48] <cipher6> If i enter text and hit enter it will send it to Foo.txt, and give me another >.
[03:48] <FrostyBytes> with "<< EOF" you started a "here document"
[03:48] <fayed> haaaaa?
[03:48] <cipher6> It will continue to add lines until I put in EOF,
[03:48] <FrostyBytes> it will accept all lines until "EOF" and feed them into cat
[03:48] <cipher6> FrostyBytes: Yes, that! What is a "here document"
[03:48] <cipher6> and what is the << telling cat to do?
[03:49] <Ben64> cipher6: yes but it seems like you're leading to something else with this
[03:49] <streetwitch> My netbook lost the "up" key. Could anyone tell me how to reprogram another key to act as if it was the "up" key?
[03:49] <cipher6> Nope, this was an example in my course and Idk why it works,
[03:49] <FrostyBytes> cipher6: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/here-docs.html
[03:49] <cipher6> they were just showing that you could send out to a txt or other file
[03:49] <Ben64> ah
[03:49] <cipher6> Thanks FrostyBytes
[03:50] <jeffcas> mukluks: thanks
[03:50] <cipher6> So FrostyBytes Any word could replace EOF? it's not a special word?
[03:51] <Ben64> EOF stands for end of file, but in this case it doesnt really mean anything
[03:53] <hggdh> cipher6: any word.
[03:53] <streetwitch> Anyone have the answer to my question?
[03:54] <cipher6> hggdh: regarding what sir?
[03:54] <cipher6> hggdh: wait, you're answering my question, nvm, thank you
[03:55] <hggdh> heh. Indeed
[03:55] <FrostyBytes> chipher6: you can use any word (that doesn't appear by itself in the document)
[03:55] <FrostyBytes> despite being the prototypical example of a here document, EOF is not a terribly good choice. I sometimes use the output of pwgen -s 16
[03:56] <cipher6> so I could pwgen -s 16 << EOF > foo.txt?
[03:56] <cipher6> FrostyBytes: I don't have a man for pwgen?
[03:58] <hggdh> cipher6: pwgen (r, as another option apg) will generate, as an option, wtrings that can be used as passwords. You have to install the packages
[03:59] <hggdh> urgh. As usual, my typing is horrible
[03:59] <adhocadhoc> Am I wrong in thinking that SCP will fail while running Ubuntu terminal in Windows because it's sandboxed and independent of my Windows environment?
[04:00] <sh0rtbus> mukluks ,changed laptops and trying it now. i'll let you know if it fixes it in a min
[04:00] <cipher6> hggdh: Thanks mate
[04:00] <mukluks> sh0rtbus: good luck
[04:01] <sh0rtbus> restarting now
[04:03] <excelsiora> hi
[04:03] <excelsiora> how do I get the build-dep's from a PPA?
[04:06] <cipher6> excelsiora: I usually try "at gunpoint" but adding the ppa to your lists can help
[04:06] <cipher6> what package are you looking to build?
[04:07] <cipher6> !list
[04:08] <cipher6> !info
[04:09] <darkwind_> Hey, student here. Quick question on Vim in ubuntu, does ":wq!" force write a file compared to ":wq"? I was reading the documentation and it said that ":wq" will fail on read-only, but it mentioned nothing about it for ":wq!".
[04:10] <cipher6> darkwind_: I'm sending you a PM w/ a VM cheat sheet
[04:10] <sh0rtbus> hey mukluks the screen hasnt flickered yetr and its using the nvidia driver but the laptop seems to lock up after a minute now, frozen pointer, frozen screen
[04:12] <mukluks> sh0rtbus: hmmm
[04:12] <mukluks> sh0rtbus: what model laptop?
[04:13] <sh0rtbus> hp g60-127cl if you need more info lemme know
[04:14] <sh0rtbus> er mukluks  hp g60-127cl if you need more info lemme know
[04:16] <phiona> I can't find the Change Case plugin in gedit 3.18.3 installed from repo in Ubuntu. Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS. Is it gone? It also seem not to be packaged with gedit-plugins.
[04:16] <kulelu88> Hello all
[04:17] <cipher6> phiona: gedit>preferences>Plugins>change case
[04:18] <kulelu88> if the path to my executable is /user1/package/bin , is the following the correct code to add to .profile : export PATH=$PATH:$home/user1/package/bin
[04:18] <mukluks> sh0rtbus: you might not have enough RAM
[04:19] <mukluks> sh0rtbus: how much do you have installed?
[04:19] <cipher6> phiona: Actually I don't see it either....
[04:19] <sh0rtbus> 2gb not enuff huh?
[04:19] <sh0rtbus> er
[04:19] <sh0rtbus> mukluks 2gb not enuff?
[04:20] <mukluks> sh0rtbus: hmm should be enough
[04:20] <mukluks> sh0rtbus: can you restart it in safe mode [hold shift during boot] and see if it lasts longer than a minute?
[04:20] <FrostyBytes> 2gb is enough ram ... if you have 32gb swap
[04:21] <phiona> cipher6: Told you so.
[04:22] <cfhowlett> sh0rtbus, technically, 2gb is enough but performance will be underwhelming.  suggest you lighten the load by using a (much!) less demanding desktop environment.  you can easily test them without a complete reinstalll
[04:22] <cipher6> phiona: But the man pages say it should be there :(
[04:22] <cfhowlett> sh0rtbus, sudo apt install lxde xfce4                 then logout, choose your session and login
[04:23] <phiona> cipher6: yeah, but where is it?
[04:23] <sab_> HI i need to upgrade php 5.3.10 to php 5.5.9 on our live site server. just got this http://askubuntu.com/questions/565784/how-do-i-upgrade-php-version-to-the-latest-stable-released-version
[04:23] <sab_> i only need to upgrade php
[04:24] <excelsiora> cipher6: I'm trying to build emacs from the latest source.
[04:24] <bobdobbs> sab_: just wondering: is there a reason why you aren't upgrading to 7?
[04:24] <sab_> wont sudo apt-get upgrade  will install all latest version of installed softwares?
[04:24] <cfhowlett> sab_, no
[04:24] <cfhowlett> sudo apt full-upgrade or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:25] <bobdobbs> sab_: depends on the repos. iirc, 7 isn't in the default repos
[04:25] <sab_> bobdobbs: ther will lot of depreciation error/warning messages and dont want to take a risk on live site
[04:25] <bobdobbs> sab_: fair enough
[04:25] <bobdobbs> sab_: have you considered upgrading on a staging site first?
[04:25] <mukluks> bobdobbs: switching major versions, especially in a lang like php will break a lot of stuf
[04:25] <bobdobbs> and maybe silently logging warnings?
[04:26] <bobdobbs> mukluks: truedat
[04:26] <sab_> bobdobbs:  there isnt a staging site on linode i guess
[04:26] <bobdobbs> sab_: why not make one?
[04:26] <cipher6> night all
[04:27] <bobdobbs> sab_: part of the point of hosting on linode and similar providers is that you get the freedom to create your own staging sites
[04:27] <bobdobbs> I mean, it's not a pushbutton process. but best practice for managing a webapp is to have a staging version
[04:27] <bobdobbs> ( I use the term 'webapp' very broadly)
[04:27] <fayed> night too chiper6
[04:28] <Speiros> jeffcas Did you end up working the problem out?
[04:28] <bobdobbs> personally, I think that if you managing an app on linode you should be capable of creating a staging version. cos with linode you get enough power to shoot yourself in the foot pretty badly
[04:29] <bobdobbs> I don't mean to sound abrasive. and you have to do what you have to do. But I'd strongly advocate both creating a staging site and also upgrading to php 7
[04:30] <sab_> bobdobbs:  ahhh... if i create staging site, wont the operating system b shared between live and staging site. i mean both will b on same common ubuntu operating system, there wont b another operating system for staging site . right?
[04:31] <bobdobbs> sab_ if your staging site is on the same machine, then you can just create your staging site on a new virtual host
[04:31] <bobdobbs> but you probably want to create your staging site on another machine
[04:31] <bobdobbs> especially if you want to upgrade php. which I think yuo should.
[04:32] <sab_> bobdobbs: hmm.. but we are just having one linode account, and dont want to go for another additional resources
[04:32] <bobdobbs> in theory you could serve them both from the same machine and with a different version of php. But at your level of experience that's probably not the thing I'd suggest
[04:33] <phiona> I can't find the Change Case plugin in gedit 3.18.3 installed from repo in Ubuntu. Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS. Is it gone? It also seem not to be packaged with gedit-plugins
[04:33] <bobdobbs> sab_: is that because of a budget limitation?
[04:33] <sab_> bobdobbs: virtual hosts will b using the same common live server os
[04:33] <bobdobbs> sab_: the thing is, at some point, you will have to upgrade your php. And that point will come sooner than you think. By that time, you should have tested your app.
[04:33] <sh0rtbus> im not extremely tech savvy and a complete noob to linux and only internet help i find online is for ubuntu, hate to try something else and have to pester you guys over "dumb" questions although i may already be doing it:)
[04:34] <bobdobbs> sab_: iirc, the php5x series is no longer being actively supported.
[04:34] <Speiros> sh0rtbus You won't know unless you ask mate.
[04:34] <sab_> bobdobbs: yes kind of, the client will be shifting later to amazon server. later i mean (not sure when it will happen but soon)
[04:34] <bobdobbs> http://php.net/supported-versions.php
[04:35] <bobdobbs> support ended last december. it only gets security updates now. and those will end dec 2018
[04:35] <bobdobbs> sab_: ah, I see
[04:35] <bobdobbs> sab_: and I assume that someone else will be managing it then?
[04:36] <sab_> bobdobbs: so while shifting to amazon ec2, we can think of php7 before we actually point to amazon hosting
[04:36] <bobdobbs> k
[04:36] <sab_> bobdobbs: we can manage it.atleast  for now dont want to upgrade to php7
[04:37] <mukluks> sh0rtbus: how did safe mode go
[04:37] <bobdobbs> sab_: fair enough
[04:38] <bobdobbs> I'm running ubuntu 16.06 on my desktop. Sometimes when I move the mouse, my desktop changes to a view where all the applications are laid out like cards.
[04:38] <bobdobbs> How can I stop this from happening
[04:38] <bobdobbs> ?
[04:38] <sab_> bobdobbs: so just wanted a proper way to only upgrade from php5.3.10 to php 5.5.9. without affecting apache server or other settings
[04:38] <sh0rtbus> mukluks ok, i still have windows alongside ubuntu and get a grub menu. i tried the shift at every point i could and got no safe mode. also tried the sudo command someone else mentioned and seemed to fail
[04:39] <bobdobbs> sab_: you won't know if your application still runs as expected until after you switch. which is why you should to the upgrade on a staging site first
[04:39] <bobdobbs> q
[04:39] <sab_> bobdobbs:  so sorry not so used to ubuntu actually, thats why am here
[04:39] <sab_> hmm
[04:40] <bobdobbs> sab_: I just googled "ubuntu upgrade from php5.4 to 5.6" and got a ton of results.
[04:40] <sab_> bobdobbs:  we are having amazon ec2(that is our hosting not of clients). there we are having php v 5.5.9. and the same site code works well over there
[04:40] <Bashing-om> sh0rtbus: EFI system ? then it is the escape key that grub looks for . 3 second window of oportunity spam the escape key as soon as the firmware screen clears .
[04:40] <bobdobbs> did you look through the google results?
[04:41] <bobdobbs> sab_: ok.
[04:41] <sab_> bobdobbs: yes, i had sent one url on the chat http://askubuntu.com/questions/565784/how-do-i-upgrade-php-version-to-the-latest-stable-released-version
[04:41] <sh0rtbus> mukluks is there another way to enter safe mode or is it part of the advanced options on ubuntu grub menu?
[04:41] <bobdobbs> sab_: and did you look through the other material on the web?
[04:42] <bobdobbs> if you did, then you'd have a mental model for how to move forward. In which case you should be stuck on another problem by now
[04:42] <sab_> bobdobbs:     sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ondrej/php5; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install php5.5.9;        these commands shud work well i guess?
[04:43] <bobdobbs> sab_: looks sane. but you won't know until you test
[04:43] <sh0rtbus> mukluks in the advanced menu i get.... generic ... generic (upstart) ... generic (recovery mode)
[04:43] <bobdobbs> unfortunately, we can't really say if those commands will break your system or not. because we haven't tested your system
[04:44] <bobdobbs> sab_: just outta curiousity: are you new to sysadmin stuff?
[04:44] <mukluks> sh0rtbus: recovery mode
[04:44] <bobdobbs> sab_: like, you sound like you might be the guy in the organisation who isn't the expert, but has to do it because everyone else is even less qualified
[04:44] <sab_> bobdobbs: hmmm. i had ubuntu on ec2 and setup lamp and birtual hosts
[04:45] <bobdobbs> ok
[04:45] <bobdobbs> I mean, I don't mean to sound mean or anything. But generally sysadmins know that they really should be testing, either on a local or staging environment
[04:46] <cfhowlett> sab_, this might be better asked in #ubuntu-server
[04:46] <bobdobbs> The thing to avoid here, is breaking stuff badly and then having everyone in your org blaming you
[04:46] <sab_> bobdobbs: am just not sure about this upgrade thing, and just wanted to confirm if someone else has done so . as this is going to affect live server
[04:46] <sab_> bobdobbs:  thats true
[04:47] <bobdobbs> sab_: at the very least, you should be telling the people in your org: "if you can't give me the resources to do this job properly, then there's a non-zero chance of catastrophe. I'll only go ahead if you are ok with that"
[04:47] <bobdobbs> cover your ass sab_
[04:47] <metaresolve> hi guys. i'm trying to print the contents of my directory to a .txt file.
[04:47] <metaresolve> is it a pipe or > < command or something to write to the file?
[04:47] <sh0rtbus> mukluks ok i get a recovery menu im guessing "failsafex" run in failsafe graphic mode?
[04:47] <sab_> bobdobbs: :D
[04:47] <bobdobbs> sab_: honestly, just drop the task now and go to your boss. Put it in an email, so its on record.
[04:48] <kspencer> that would be something like ls -a > dir.txt
[04:48] <metaresolve> nm, apparently google works too
[04:49] <kspencer> r
[04:49] <wedgie> metaresolve: do you want it for human reading purposes or are you using it in a script?
[04:49] <metaresolve> just to learn how to do it so i could and paste the text.
[04:49] <bobdobbs> otherwise, when the end client sees that the app is broken, you are the most fireable. And the easiest to hold in contempt. By being clear about liabilities, your boss will see you as professional.
[04:49] <metaresolve> instead of taking a screenshot. i'm in windows.
[04:49] <metaresolve> but i knew you guys had the same answer :)
[04:49] <metaresolve> and it worked, thank you.
[04:49] <sab_> bobdobbs: had dropped mailed regarding  upgrading of php on live, ther is no response . i wont be able to get adobe echosign running on live. if that doesnt happen. php 5.3 is quite old
[04:51] <bobdobbs> sab_: wait until you hear back
[04:51] <sab_> bobdobbs:  so u saying get  asystem with php 5.3.10 installed, and i need to try upgeading same system to php 5.5.10. and for this i shud ask for a seperate linode  ?
[04:52] <bobdobbs> sab_: you should ask for your work to give you what you need to do the job. And at the moment you've been set up to fail
[04:53] <bobdobbs> sab_: thing is, your bosses aren't clueful enough to know they've set you up to fail. Which means that if/when things go catastrophic, they will blame you
[04:54] <bobdobbs> Hell, you might even think its your fault
[04:54] <bobdobbs> You don't know what you are doing. This isn't a bad thing... but it's a good thing to know that you don't know what you are doing.
[04:55] <sab_> bobdobbs: hmm
[04:55] <bobdobbs> And it's a terrible thing that those to whom you are accountable don't know that you don't know what you are doing.
[04:56] <sh0rtbus> hrmmm
[04:56] <bobdobbs> So sure, update the box with random commands from the webz. But at least tell your boss that it could all go to hell, and the only way to avoid catastrophe is to have a proper testing environment
[04:56] <bobdobbs> sab_: don't be afraid of letting your boss know that you need resourcing. You can't put out a fire with half a firetruck.
[04:58] <sab_> bobdobbs: hmm ok
[04:58] <sh0rtbus> one too many dumb questions i guess, if i could just get the damn thing functional i could learn on my own. just cant do it as if im looking at a strobe light
[04:59] <sh0rtbus> :(
[04:59] <Speiros> sh0rtbus What are you working on?  I don't know if I can help, but I can listen and look.
[05:00] <spider_x> Hey guys, when I shutdown the computer it doesn't totally shutdown. The monitors shutdown but the computer keeps running.
[05:00] <Speiros> spider_x do you mean the whole hard drive, or the power source?
[05:01] <spider_x> I am not sure, the computer just runs
[05:01] <Speiros> spider_x The power stays on on my computer is all.  I can charge my phone when it's off.
[05:01] <spider_x> everything else shuts down
[05:01] <Speiros> spider_x Can you turn the monitor on again while it is doing this?
[05:01] <spider_x> I can hear it running but everything else is turned off and then I am forced to hold down the button to shut it totally down.
[05:02] <spider_x> Yea justs says no input.
[05:02] <spider_x> and I don't think the keyboard works either
[05:02] <Speiros> spider_x Wow, that's interesting.
[05:02] <spider_x> I mean it boots up fine
[05:02] <Speiros> I'm not sure, spider_x .  Maybe someone else could help with it, but it's strange nonetheless.
[05:02] <sh0rtbus> speiros my screen consantly flickers, so i changed to the nvidia driver (no flickering) and now the pc locks up after a minute or two
[05:03] <spider_x> I am on Kubuntu maybe I should use lighdm or something?
[05:04] <Speiros> spider_x It isn't normal for Ubuntu, as far as I'm aware.  It sounds like a computer problem somehow, or rather, the kill command, but I'm not experienced in that field.
[05:05] <Speiros> spider_x I will look in the ubuntu pages online, to see if someone else has experienced it, or something similar.
[05:06] <spider_x> oh, I have :)
[05:06] <Speiros> spider_x Nothing?
[05:06] <spider_x> I honestly think it is the display manager
[05:06] <Ben64> spider_x: what if you do 'sudo poweroff'
[05:06] <spider_x> I believe I am currently running sddm
[05:06] <spider_x> I can try that Ben64
[05:06] <Ben64> sddm isn't in ubuntu?
[05:06] <spider_x> Kubuntu*
[05:06] <spider_x> I am using Kubuntu
[05:06] <Ben64> what version
[05:07] <spider_x> 16.04.1
[05:07] <Ben64> ohh ok
[05:07] <Ben64> but yeah, sudo poweroff should... power off
[05:07] <spider_x> Yea I will try that right after this Lightdm stuff
[05:07] <Ben64> if not, then it probably has shut down but can't turn off for whatever reason
[05:08] <Speiros> Strange, that.
[05:10] <spider_x> Odly enough Reboot works fine :D?
[05:10] <bivo> After trying to get PCSX to run I have had an issue where going fullscreen in ALL emulators now drops the screen resolution to 640x480 when dropping out of fullscreen. What config files do I need to delete?
[05:14] <Speiros> sh0rtbus Sorry mate, I actually forgot...I'll have a look to see what I can find online, if you're happy with that:)
[05:18] <Speiros> sh0rtbus Here's a link mate, but it seems it's an NVIDIA thing, as I'm reading microstuffed has the same problem: https://askubuntu.com/questions/517102/ubuntu-14-04-freezes
[05:18] <Speiros> sh0rtbus This article is specific for Ubuntu though.
[05:22] <spider_x> Ok I am back
[05:22] <spider_x> Well switching to lightdm sure helps shutting down
[05:23] <spider_x> however now I have a new problem :D lightdm gives me "Failed to Start Session"
[05:23] <zerohimself> hey guys, i have a network routing question
[05:25] <countingdaisies> Does anyone know how to solve the problem updating ms core fonts on 16.04? I'm having a problem when I update where I get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23785401/    ( see lines 44 and 45 ).
[05:25] <Ben64> zerohimself: ##networking
[05:25] <zerohimself> thank you
[05:25] <countingdaisies> I'm seeing some older information googling about it but not sure if it pertains to the most current distro.
[05:25] <sh0rtbus> ok speiros i will try but ubuntu seems to have "crashed" now (i cant get it to even start now) so i will re install and try it
[05:25] <zerohimself> this is actually linux/ubuntu based though
[05:26] <Ben64> countingdaisies: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1607535
[05:26] <spider_x> so guys, any idea how I can switch back to SDDM?
[05:26] <Ben64> zerohimself: it's either a networking question or an ubuntu question
[05:26] <countingdaisies> Ben64: thx
[05:26] <countingdaisies> right on
[05:27] <zerohimself> its ubuntu... can i force a program to only use a specific network interface...
[05:27] <Ben64> countingdaisies: yeah it's a problem, i haven't checked that page, but if a solution exists it'll be there
[05:27] <countingdaisies> right on
[05:27] <Ben64> zerohimself: depends on the program i suppose
[05:27] <zerohimself> like i have eth0 and my vpn tunnel.. i need most traffic to use vpn, but specifics to use eth0 for lan
[05:27] <tatertots> countingdaisies: that's a 404 error, meaning not found http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts has changed
[05:28] <zerohimself> i think u know what i meant
[05:29] <countingdaisies> tatertots: I noticed that, yeah. I think its in ms corefonts installer though (which might be outside ubuntu's domain and possibly propriateary??) idk.
[05:29] <countingdaisies> is there an "easy" way to fix the problem?
[05:29] <cfhowlett> best bet tatertots: contact the package maintainer
[05:29] <Ben64> zerohimself: basically the answer is no. some programs allow you to specify an interface
[05:30] <tatertots> countingdaisies: it's not your job to maintain http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts and the server contents on it
[05:31] <Speiros> Bye people:)
[05:31] <zerohimself> ben64: if it's possible ill find it ... just might take a little time!! ;-P
[05:32] <zerohimself> i swear i've seen it before.
[05:33] <spider_x> Is anyone able to look into my issue? Currently using lightdm but when I try to login it gives me a "Failed to start session"
[05:33] <spider_x> and doing anything via the shell is stuck at 0 :(
[05:33] <countingdaisies> Can a new / correct url be supplied to the ms corefonts installer?  Can I feed it the right one somehow?
[05:34] <tatertots> countingdaisies: would you like to look into addressing the matter?
[05:35] <tatertots> countingdaisies: i don't have as much patience as i used to, so first install inxi, it can be found in the main ubuntu repositories, making it easy to install using your favorite installation method.
[05:36] <countingdaisies> tatertots: for sure. I'm trying to get everything tip top updated so I can try to get pencil to work again (two tries in two mos). Maybe if everything is perfectly updated it'll work.
[05:36] <countingdaisies> tatertots: I'm comfy enuf around the command line and some coding stuff
[05:36] <tatertots> countingdaisies: then just let me know once you have it installed and are ready to pick up where we left off..take care
[05:37] <countingdaisies> tatertots: huh?
[05:39] <countingdaisies> tatertots: oh, ok I have inxi installed then
[05:41] <tatertots> countingdaisies: open terminal
[05:41] <tatertots> countingdaisies: inxi -Fxxrzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[05:41] <tatertots> countingdaisies: press enter
[05:41] <tatertots> countingdaisies: share url/link here...don't worry, the link doesn't contain anything unique to your person.
[05:42] <countingdaisies> tatertots:  Cool. It's  http://termbin.com/rfve
[05:46] <tatertots> countingdaisies: you want the microsoft true type fonts correct?
[05:49] <countingdaisies> tatertots: When updating my system an error dialog popped up (gui) and I wnated to get a clean update. This is in the way of it. This is a screenshot of that error message: http://imgur.com/a/WYzxu
[05:50] <countingdaisies> ^ is a blemish on my otherwise spotless update
[05:50] <amirv> I changed the UID of my user. How can I find what was the previous UID value?
[05:51] <tatertots> countingdaisies: cat /var/log/apt/term.log|nc termbin.com 9999
[05:51] <tatertots> countingdaisies: press enter
[05:51] <tatertots> countingdaisies: share url/link here...don't worry, the link doesn't contain anything unique to your person.
[05:53] <tatertots> countingdaisies: what steps or online guide were you following to install the fonts that resulted in this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23785401/ from your original problem statement?
[05:53] <countingdaisies> tatertots: none. The problem simply emerged
[05:54] <countingdaisies> tatertots: do you mind if we pm this?
[05:54] <tatertots> countingdaisies: ok
[06:00] <tatertots> countingdaisies: welcome back
[06:04] <hateball> countingdaisies, tatertots if you check "install additional whatever" during install that will install ubuntu-restricted-extras which in turn tries to grab the mscorefonts
[06:06] <hateball> And I am guessing it is due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/1543280
[06:12] <deadbit> since ubuntu is a variant of debian.... what do you think of debian 8 for a desktop environment
[06:52] <deadbit> Ok - So I went with Ubuntu for desktop, but I now need to run a dhcp server....
[06:52] <deadbit> I'm not sure about using Ubuntu Server over Debian.... would you recommend Debian 8.6 over Ubuntu Server?
[06:53] <deadbit> Or CentOS for that matter?
[06:53] <davido> http://askubuntu.com/questions/140126/how-do-i-install-and-configure-a-dhcp-server
[06:53] <bazhang> deadbit, this is ubuntu support, we will of course recommend ubuntu
[06:54] <bazhang> deadbit, try ##linux for a more general channel
[06:54] <bazhang> deadbit, there or #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:55] <deadbit> well I'll just go with ubuntu server
[06:55] <davido> I can't imagine why that would be a bad choice.
[06:55] <tatertots> deadbit: if you don't know or are aware of your own project system requirements, could it be that you have no requirements?
[06:55] <Robbster> morning all. my T460s (Skylake) randomly locks up the window manager when adding or removing external monitor, but my google-fu is failing me.
[06:56] <deadbit> is ubuntu server cli or gui/xfce/kde/lxde?
[06:56] <deadbit> i don't have requirements
[06:56] <bazhang> server is command line
[06:56] <deadbit> I've used debian, ubuntu and red hat
[06:56] <deadbit> debian and ubuntu are from the same fork
[06:56] <deadbit> that is to say ubuntu is based on debian
[06:57] <bazhang> deadbit, this is a support channel, not a chat channel about which distro to use
[06:57] <deadbit> yes you already said that
[06:57] <deadbit> and i moved onto the ##linux channel
[06:58] <deadbit> I was answering a question.
[06:58] <bazhang> deadbit, so please follow the channel guidelines and take the chit chat elsewhere
[06:58] <deadbit> again I already have
[06:58] <deadbit> and i asked a question specific to ubuntu
[06:59] <deadbit> does ubuntu server have a gui or is it cli based?
[06:59] <bazhang> cli
[06:59] <Ben64> you asked that and it was answered
[06:59] <deadbit> I have not used ubuntu server only the desktop version
[07:00] <deadbit> when running the dhcp server role on ubuntu - do i need to run bind as well?
[07:01] <Ben64> deadbit: if you need bind, then yes
[07:02] <deadbit> right.... if i need it use it...
[07:03] <deadbit> hmm... i have one constraint - other technicians will be using the ubuntu box. They are not familiar with linux and 1 constraint will be there limited linux knowledge.
[07:04] <tatertots> i think the other techs will be fine, im sure they know about this chat site too
[07:04] <deadbit> What if I were to use the desktop flavor and used DHCP server on that.... they "need" a GUI to use. I figure that Ubuntu would be the easiest to use and adapt to for them.
[07:04] <deadbit> tatertots, well they don't know about this chat server nor channel
[07:05] <bazhang> !lamp | deadbit have a read
[07:05] <bazhang> deadbit you should have a very thorough read of the ubuntu wiki and helppages for server
[07:05] <deadbit> I'm familiar with Lamp and XXAMP and other variations
[07:06] <ducasse> deadbit: also this might be useful - https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[07:06] <deadbit> i don't need the entire stack
[07:06] <deadbit> that would be useful
[07:06] <bazhang> deadbit, do you currently have an ubuntu install you need resolution of issues
[07:07] <deadbit> i'm not accustomed to ubuntu as i am with centos or debian
[07:07] <deadbit> yes - i have a ubuntu server that they configured incorrectly the IPTables.
[07:08] <deadbit> I am asking for more operations based questions for the Ubuntu platform so that I can make an educated decision on choosing the correct platform.
[07:10] <deadbit> Thank you for your answers - I have made my decision
[07:11] <jyamihud> wow how does this think work?
[07:12] <bazhang> jyamihud, this is ubuntu support
[07:12] <deadbit> jyamihud, what thing?
[07:12] <bazhang> you ask questions, we try to help resolve them
[07:12] <jyamihud> I just installed this xchat
[07:12] <deadbit> maybe he's asking how does ubuntu work
[07:12] <deadbit> xchat on ubuntu?
[07:12] <jyamihud> IDK how does it even work
[07:12] <deadbit> did you do sudo apt-get install xchat?
[07:13] <jyamihud> yeah
[07:13] <deadbit> this is offtopic but try weechat
[07:13] <deadbit> i think you'll enjoy it more.
[07:13] <deadbit> i use weechat when i ssh into my debian vps.
[07:13] <deadbit> but you'll find they're sticklers for staying on topic
[07:14] <deadbit> you can probably find help in #freenode for finding a proper channel
[07:14] <deadbit> or do a /join ##chat and talk in a social channel
[07:14] <deadbit> best of luck
[07:14] <jyamihud> thanks... I guess
[07:15] <bazhang> jyamihud, is that MINT
[07:15] <jyamihud> ubuntu 13 i guess
[07:16] <bazhang> jyamihud, thats way out of support
[07:16] <jyamihud> well I cannot install newer because I have too much files on it that I need too much
[07:17] <jyamihud> through apt-get tho everything installs so why should i care
[07:17] <bazhang> jyamihud, ideally you should get the latest LTS and use hexchat, as that is supported/maintained version not xchat
[07:18] <ducasse> jyamihud: you should care because you don't get security patches
[07:18] <bazhang> jyamihud, please open a terminal and type lsb_release -a
[07:22] <deadbit> jyamihud: be careful of the commands they tell you to run like ":(){ :|: & };:"
[07:22] <deadbit> for example..
[07:22] <deadbit> or rm -rf / -
[07:22] <deadbit> don't just blindly run commands
[07:23] <mukluks> hehehe
[07:35] <Robbster> morning all. my Skylake based laptop  randomly locks up the window manager when adding or removing external monitor, but my google-fu is failing me. I've tried upgrading the kernel to 4.8.0-32-generic, but I still have the issue. any ideas?
[07:38] <tatertots> Robbster: have you made any detailed observations when your symptom occurs?
[07:39] <Robbster> tatertots: it only occurs when adding/removing external monitor. Either displayport or HDMI. a restart of the DM resolves.
[07:39] <tatertots> Robbster: what steps are you taking when this symptom occurs that allows you to continue using this computer hardware?......rebooting?, forced power off? ???
[07:40] <Robbster> tarator: frustratingly it isn't deterministic. I don't have metrics, but I estimate that it occurs 40% of the time.
[07:40] <tatertots> Robbster: meaning sometimes you are able to add/remove a external monitor without issue?
[07:41] <Robbster> tarator: correct.
[07:41] <ducasse> Robbster: which wm/desktop?
[07:42] <Robbster> ducasse: currently using mdm + cinnamon (mintlinux).
[07:42] <ducasse> !mint | Robbster
[07:42] <tatertots> lol
[07:43] <Robbster> ducasse: previously with 16.04.1 running lightdm + cinnamon
[07:43] <Robbster> ducasse: same issue.
[08:00] <darwin__> hey
[08:00] <darwin__> I have problem with /etc/resolv.conf
[08:00] <ikevin-> what kind of problem?
[08:01] <darwin__> It doesnt savd
[08:01] <darwin__> save*
[08:01] <ikevin-> it maybe overrided by resolvconf or network manager
[08:02] <darwin__> I know that. I just do not know how to prevent it from happening
[08:02] <Ben64> darwin__: the top line says "#     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN"
[08:02] <ikevin-> define your dns in network manager et /etc/network/interfaces
[08:02] <ikevin-> or*
[08:02] <darwin__> how
[08:03] <ikevin-> via the network configuration tool
[08:08] <bryceml> darwin__ is this a server or a desktop?  Are you using /etc/network/interfaces, or network manager?
[08:09] <bryceml> if you have resolvconf package installed, you can add your custom stuff to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[08:20] <Snowie> hi all, have an issue where both of my ctrl keys have stopped working. used the ubuntu wiki for hotkey/troubleshooting, and no response from xev or evtest for either ctrl key, all other keys appear to work. currently in a live usb, and it seems they're not working here either. both live and prod are 16.04
[08:22] <Snowie> Could it be a physical fault with the keyboard? why both keys, and only those 2 keys, doesnt seem right. I have to assume software, any idea what to try next? its a ps2 (if that's what the little round plug is) not usb if that makes any difference.
[08:24] <Snowie> would i be better off in #linux perhaps?
[08:25] <ikevin-> Snowie, try with another linux or windows if keys are working
[08:26] <Snowie> ikevin-: will give that a go, any suggestion on a live distro to test? arch?
[08:27] <ikevin-> you can try with ubuntu 14.10 or 16.10, mint or arch
[08:28] <Snowie> I think i have 14.04 dl allready, so ill give that a go. cheers :) brb
[08:44] <Snowie> ikevin-: so lubuntu 16.10 also has no response from either ctrl key. i have no other machine with a ps2 port to plug this keyboard into, but i'm guessing at this point it has to be some weird failure mode where both ctrl keys just gave up simultaneously?
[08:45] <ikevin-> in general, keys are working by groups
[08:46] <ducasse> Snowie: can you try a live image of a totally different distro, just to double-check? something like arch or fedora, maybe?
[08:46] <ikevin-> Snowie, you said it has "stopped" to work, do you have doed anything? like upgrade?
[08:46] <bronx75> !list
[08:46] <Mrokii> Hello. Not sure if this is a general Ubuntu or Kubuntu-specific problem. I have been using Kupfer for years and on Ubuntu it worked without problems. Since switching to Kubuntu (fresh install) Kupfer is automatically started but the shortcut to invoke its command-window doesn't work. When I manually kill the process and restart Kupfer everything works fine. So, in essence, Kupfer only works properly when
[08:46] <Mrokii> manually started, but not when it is automatically started at system-boot.
[08:47] <Snowie> ducasse: ok. i grabbed the arch image but i'm not as proficient, so a little bit of googling for liveusb, but yeah, i'll check it
[08:48] <Snowie> ducasse: no i didnt doed nuffin. it's happening across multiple profiles. there was a kernel update recently, but a few days ago, just stopped. nothing outside of usual apt update && apt upgrade
[08:49] <fedorarajiv> is it possible to install windows alongside ubuntu
[08:49] <ikevin-> fedorarajiv, yes
[08:50] <fedorarajiv> ikevin, i have already installed ubuntu 16.04. i heard that windows should be installed first. is it true/
[08:51] <freddish> Hello, i get this error http://pastebin.com/MnYZg5gQ
[08:52] <Snowie> is it safe to write the arch image to the usb using startup disk creator or should i do it the long by hand way
[08:52] <ducasse> fedorarajiv: it's easier, but you can just install it and fix grub after that.
[08:53] <KingsQuest> ubuntu got upgrade.  its not bad.  :D  so did lubuntu.  i very happy with product
[08:53] <darwin__> i have a question
[08:53] <ducasse> Snowie: use dd
[08:53] <Snowie> ducasse: cheers
[08:53] <fedorarajiv> ducasse: how do i fix it?
[08:53] <darwin__> how can I make a script that randomize mac address every boot
[08:53] <ducasse> !fixgrub | fedorarajiv
[08:53] <fedorarajiv> ducasse , ok.
[08:56] <ikevin-> darwin__, use "pre-up" option on /etc/network/interfaces
[08:58] <zjuiu> hello
[08:58] <zjuiu> anyone?
[08:59] <ikevin-> no :]
[09:00] <mukluks> darwin__: ifconfig [device] hw ether  xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
[09:02] <nwe> hello, I have a strange problem I will install ubuntu on a HP Gen9 (using UEFI) over pxeboot. I get up my grub-menu so I can choose version, but after that I dont get any output at all. I installing it over iLO..
[09:04] <ikevin-> nwe, try to remove "quiet splash" boot option
[09:06] <nwe> ikevin-: I using preseed and this is the efidefault entry for it..
[09:06] <nwe> http://pastebin.com/506j3De9
[09:06] <nwe> so should I set that on  the initrd row..?
[09:07] <ikevin-> never see option on the initrd option :o
[09:07] <ikevin-> on your tftp server, do you see a download of the kernel and initrd image?
[09:13] <tatertots> nwe: have you tried installing in other method besides pxeboot? tried mounting the iso through ilo, tried liveusb/livecd?
[09:13] <parker_> Bonjour :-)
[09:13] <ikevin-> salut parker_
[09:14] <parker_> ha un français !!
[09:14] <ikevin-> parker_, tu a #ubuntu-fr qui est pour les francophones :)
[09:21] <nugget_> does anyone know the difference in "libnss-ldap" and "libnss-ldapd" and also which is preferred?
[09:21] <KingsQuest> if you want security and honesty you use fedora 25 and ubuntu 16.04 :D
[09:22] <KingsQuest> else use centos.  "whatever"
[09:22] <meldron> hey guys chrome is freezing my system again, i got rid of these errors couple of months ago but now with kernel 4.8 they returned, anyone with simular problems? how did you fix it? already treid to disable gpu flags in chrome
[09:22] <nugget_> KingsQuest: or LFS
[09:22] <KingsQuest> better yet.  damn vulnerable linux
[09:22] <seg_> hello
[09:22] <nugget_> KingsQuest: :D
[09:22] <KingsQuest> libpam is awesome in 16.04
[09:25] <tzmfen> whats currently the most upto date/well supported bnc  software ?
[09:32] <Kegsay> In a few moments there may be a few leaves marked as "kicked" as the reason, this is due to an idle timer firing.
[09:33] <Kegsay> Sorry for the potential spam.
[09:34] <ikonia> Kegsay: idle timer ?
[09:34] <ikonia> Kegsay: timer on what ?
[09:34] <Kegsay> the affected users are connecting via a gateway
[09:34] <ikonia> what gateway ?
[09:36] <hello_dude> Hello World!
[09:37] <ikonia> Kegsay: is this the matrix service doing house keeping ?
[09:37] <hello_dude> maybe
[09:37] <Kegsay> ikonia, yes
[09:37] <ikonia> Kegsay: thanks for confirming
[09:38] <saba> Everything works fine except switching viewports. Compiz (I think) is lagging. I've turned off the switch animation and yet the switch takes about 1 second. I have Nvidia and the proprietary drivers.
[09:39] <saba> More specifically, switching from viewport A to an adjecent viewport does not lag (or at least < 0.1 sec). Switching from A → B → C → D causes a huge lag (1 sec). Switching *with* a window increases the lag.
[09:42] <saba> The CPU usage is low..
[09:45] <Snowie> so after much trial, it has to be hardware. neither ctrl key is working in live arch either. so weird though to have a fault that only affects both control keys. time to open this bad boy up. Thanks so much to everyone for their help.
[09:48] <Kegsay> This cleanup is now complete, sorry for the disruption!
[09:49] <bl5bl4d3_> hi2all,how to disable miner-fs, it takes me most of CPU resources.
[09:51] <liveuser> i have just install windows 7 alongside my already installed ubuntu 16.04. but after installing windows, i unable to boot my ubuntu. what to do now. anybody please help
[09:51] <c06> hi all
[09:52] <c06> while using curl facing following error : "curl: (35) Unknown SSL protocol error in connection to staging-sse.cisco.com:443"
[09:53] <Zen> liveuser: I think this should still be relevant https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:53] <ikevin-> liveuser, from live session use grub-install
[10:01] <cbrowne> anyone know any tricks for freeing up inodes? for the first time in 11 years of using Linux I've run out of inodes on a disk and now I'm a bit stumped how to proceed (save from scanning the whole drive for superfluous files and deleting them)
[10:02] <Ben64> cbrowne: the only way is to delete files
[10:02] <Ben64> dunno what you're doing to fill it up
[10:03] <k1l> cbrowne: delete old kernels and old kernel headers
[10:04] <ikevin-> cbrowne, apt-get clean
[10:05] <cbrowne> apt-get clean got me about 70 more inodes...
[10:05] <cbrowne> I dunno what I'm doing to fill it up either, this is the root volume on my workstation and I only tend to touch my home directory (on a different volume with plenty of inodes left)
[10:05] <k1l> cbrowne: "dpkg -l | grep linux-headers"
[10:05] <ikevin-> apt-get autoremove
[10:05] <ikonia> cbrowne: interested in why you've run out of inodes, is it lots of small files, or just too sparese a distribution ?
[10:06] <ikonia> cbrowne: be interested in seeing df -i in a pastebin please
[10:06] <cbrowne> http://pastebin.com/JDs3jSE8
[10:07] <ikonia> cbrowne: ok, so root volume group, what file system is on it
[10:07] <ikonia> cbrowne: actually can you give me 15 minutes, I'd be interested in this but need to move somewhere else
[10:07] <k1l> its not about the stuff in the users home. its the root partition.
[10:08] <cbrowne> /dev/mapper/vg01-root on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
[10:08] <k1l> cbrowne: please show a "dpkg -l | grep linux-headers"
[10:09] <cbrowne> http://pastebin.com/fccLUAK0
[10:09] <rderuiter> that is an unusually small number of inodes
[10:09] <k1l> cbrowne: at least you can remove some old kernel headers packages.
[10:10] <cbrowne> it's a small fs, around 30G, the bulk of the drive is given to the home dir
[10:10] <rderuiter> sudo apt-get autoclean
[10:10] <rderuiter> oops
[10:10] <rderuiter> sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:10] <cbrowne> apt-get autoremove gives me an error because it can't make a temporary file in /var/lib/apt/lists
[10:11] <rderuiter> ouch
[10:11] <rderuiter> anything you can move temporarily to another partition?
[10:11] <k1l> sudo dpkg -r linux-headers-4.4.0-45 linux-headers-4.4.0-45-generic linux-headers-4.4.0-47-generic linux-headers-4.4.0-47
[10:13] <cbrowne> ok that got me going again
[10:13] <cbrowne> thanks k1l
[10:13] <poki_> if a server icon shows up on left hand side what does that mean?
[10:14] <killall> Hello i have ubuntu 16.04 and when i define a keyboard shortcut in settings it does not work
[10:14] <k1l> cbrowne: after that remove other old headers and kernel packages
[10:14] <killall> the keyboard shorttcut is a bash script and it  never runs the
[10:15] <rderuiter> killall: did you chmod +x the script?
[10:15] <poki_> why would there be a server icon on the left hand side? is that someone trying hack?
[10:16] <rderuiter> left hand side of what?
[10:16] <k1l> poki_: you mean in the launcher?
[10:16] <killall> rderuiter: the script runs :) but the keyboard shortcut never triggers the script
[10:16] <poki_> where all the icons are
[10:16] <k1l> poki_: could it be that this icon is from a disk?
[10:16] <poki_> poki, it said server
[10:17]  * rderuiter doesn't use Unity.
[10:21] <brunch875> Hot damn I hate the flash player so much. It keeps on crashing when using spotify. Does anybody know any good streaming services/programs for ubuntu?
[10:22] <ikevin-> why don't using the spotify client?
[10:23] <brunch875> Doh! Right
[10:26] <sgo11> hi, I setup dnsmasq in ubuntu server. I met some weird problems. if I dig my server, some domain works, some don't. and I tried to telnet myserver 53, it outputs "Connection closed by foreign host.". can anyone help? thanks.
[10:26] <cbrowne> I have a suspect for my inode problem btw, it looks like docker is creating tonnes of files in /var/lib/docker/overlay, and even cleaning up old images/containers doesn't seem to clear those files out
[10:27] <ikevin-> sgo11, does "netstat -lnp | grep 53" show you dnsmasq running?
[10:28] <sgo11> ikevin-, in the server, I can telnet localhost 53 without any problems. in my client, telnet myserver 53, gives me that output "connectoin closed by foreign host". I will try your command now.
[10:28] <sgo11> ikevin-, yeah, your command shows my dnsmasq running.
[10:29] <ikevin-> sgo11, does it listen on 0.0.0.0 or only localhost?
[10:29] <sgo11> ikevin-, I also checked with ps command. it's running.
[10:29] <sgo11> ikevin-, tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:53              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[10:29] <ikevin-> no firewall?
[10:30] <sgo11> ikevin-, I did sudo ufw allow 53, so firewall should be fine.
[10:30] <cbrowne> after "rm -rf /var/lib/docker", "df -ih" gives this line for root volume: /dev/mapper/vg01-root   1.9M  367K  1.6M   20% /
[10:30] <ikevin-> sgo11, for both tcp and udp?
[10:30] <sgo11> ikevin-, that's how I enable 80. it works fine.
[10:30] <cbrowne> if anyone else is using docker, I recommend putting it on a *very* large volume with *plenty* of inodes...
[10:31] <sgo11> ikevin-, I just run sudo ufw allow 53. not sure if that is for both tcp and udp.
[10:31] <ikevin-> check with "iptables -L -vn"
[10:31] <sgo11> ikevin-, sudo ufw status doesn't really tell me much..
[10:34] <sgo11> ikevin-, I am not sure how to read the output. this is part of it: https://hastebin.com/jukebarota.nginx
[10:34] <ikevin-> sgo11, it's ok, both tcp and udp are open
[10:35] <ikevin-> sgo11, dig google.com @yourserver <== this work?
[10:38] <sgo11> ikevin-, I will show you the result. as what I said in the beginning, it's really weird.... google.com does not work. www.google.com works.
[10:38] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:39] <sgo11> ikevin-, https://hastebin.com/uqebasajep.vbs
[10:40] <sgo11> ikevin-, i hide my server ip address. I can give you personally. I am not sure if it's a gooid idea to post publicly or not.
[10:41] <ikevin-> sgo11, you can hide it yes
[10:41] <sgo11> ikevin-, just sent you the server ip.
[10:41] <ikevin-> ok, i check
[10:43] <ikevin-> dig said me no server could be reached
[10:43] <sgo11> ikevin-, it's really weird. If it doesn't work, it should not work at all. but so far, telnet fails. but it seems telnet can connect for 1 second and closed by host. some url query works. some url query doesn't. just don't make any sense to me right now.  dig @localhost at myserver works without any problems.
[10:43] <ikevin-> try to see if there are error in dnsmasq log
[10:43] <sgo11> ikevin-, where can I check the log? I don't find anything in /var/log. thanks.
[10:45] <ikevin-> sgo11, try:  systemctl status dnsmasq.service
[10:46] <sgo11> ikevin-, i found this in syslog: Ignoring query from non-local network
[10:48] <ikevin-> sgo11, ok, can you share your /etc/dnsmasq.conf ?
[10:48] <sgo11> ikevin-, I use the default config. empty config really. all comment out. this is weird. I think ubuntu changed dnsmasq default behavior. I have two servers. (both are not using the same ubuntu version). one with default config works fine. this one doesn't.
[10:49] <ikevin-> it look like an acl is blocking external connexions
[10:50] <sgo11> ikevin-, I am googling how to enable non-local network right now.... my dnsmasq.conf is kinda empty. all lines start with #. as what I said, in another server, default config works fine. now, it doesn't.
[10:51] <ikevin-> sgo11, do you have anything in  /usr/local/etc/dnsmasq.conf ?
[10:51] <pavan> anybody expert in python
[10:52] <l0llip0p> pavan: Try #python channel I think there must be an expert
 droped my query but still not reply
[10:53] <sgo11> ikevin-, sorry, no. I don't have that file.
[10:54] <ikevin-> ok
[10:55] <sgo11> ikevin-, thank you very much for your help. I think this is because somehow the new version dnsmasq is ignoring non-local network right now. I will try to google this later. got an emergency. I have to leave for a moment. very sorry about this. thanks a lot again.
[10:56] <ikevin-> you welcome :)
[10:57] <royal_screwup21> Hi guys! :)
[10:58] <Speiros> Hi royal_screwup21 :)
[10:59] <digital_ghost> how do i change DNS server on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[11:01] <tatertots> digital_ghost: have you tried using static network settings?
[11:02] <royal_screwup21> I'm on Firefox and lately youtube videos have been taking an unusually long time to load. Is there anything I can do on my end to expedite the process?
[11:02] <digital_ghost> tatertots: no
[11:02] <ikevin-> digital_ghost, you can define them in the network settings tool
[11:02] <royal_screwup21> digital_ghost: You can probably do it through this website: http://19216811.mobi/
[11:02] <ikevin-> royal_screwup21, do you use html5 video ok flash?
[11:02] <ikevin-> or*
[11:03] <digital_ghost> i just want to change my DNS to google dns
[11:03] <tatertots> digital_ghost: in the network settings you can define static network settings, configure the appropriate settings for your network infrastructure.
[11:03] <royal_screwup21> ikevin Um, I'm not sure - is there I can check that via the terminal?
[11:03] <ikevin-> start a video and do a right click to see if there are flash option or not
[11:04] <ikevin-> or go to https://www.youtube.com/html5
[11:04] <royal_screwup21> html5 it is - at the bottom of the dropdown lists is an option saying "about the html5 player"
[11:05] <ikevin-> royal_screwup21, ok
[11:06] <ikevin-> does your network connection allow you to play the video quality you have selected?
[11:06] <tatertots> digital_ghost: you've been informed where to look to setup static network settings,
[11:07] <royal_screwup21> ikevin yup
[11:07] <ikevin-> royal_screwup21, another browser is not slow?
[11:08] <royal_screwup21> ikevin no, the browsers are working just fine (at a speed around 10 mb/s, last I checkec)
[11:08] <royal_screwup21> checked*
[11:08] <royal_screwup21> ikevin would it make an impactful difference if I reduced the video quality?
[11:09] <ikevin-> royal_screwup21, you can make a try
[11:29] <CodeMaster> hi I need speech to text software can you recommend any
[11:29] <popey> CodeMaster: Google has a good api for this
[11:35] <elias_a> CodeMaster: Thou shalt not swear.
[11:35] <elias_a> Sorry, popey :)
[11:36] <popey> eh?
[11:36] <ppf> elias_a: makes no sense either way :)
[11:36] <popey> CodeMaster: https://cloud.google.com/speech/
[11:37] <popey> CodeMaster: http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/ is another option
[11:38] <thresh> hi.  I'm trying to install gcc-6 debug symbols packages on yakkety and it fails: "libgcc-6-dev-dbgsym : Depends: libgcc1-dbg (= 6.2.0-5ubuntu12) but 1:6.2.0-5ubuntu12 is to be installed".  I've also checked http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/g/gcc-6/ and the package sizes are weirdly close to being 0.  compared ti http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/pool/main/g/gcc-6/ which are fine.
[11:38] <thresh> what's going on?
[11:38] <thresh> how do I get the proper debug symbols?
[11:39] <ppf> you've probably added some broken ppas
[11:39] <thresh> how does that explain the size difference in .deb packages I've linked?
[11:42] <ppf> ubuntu has .ddebs, debian has .debs
[11:43] <TuxCrazy> hello..
[11:46] <thresh> ppf, does not look like the packages are coming from "some broken ppas": https://gist.github.com/thresheek/578b76f40cb901be22cef107d09d443f
[11:46] <thresh> although I agree that dsyms repos might be broken :-)
[11:47] <ppf> the ddeb package sizes suggest they're merely meta-packages
[11:47] <ppf> that fact doesn't explain your error though
[11:47] <k1l> where does that ddebs repo come from?
[11:47] <ikonia> cbrowne: I'm back, sorry for the delay, have you got any futher
[11:48] <k1l> ikonia: yes, removed some old headers and then he found out it was docker spamming a lot of files
[11:48] <thresh> k1l, http://ddebs.ubuntu.com yakkety/main amd64 Packages
[11:49] <k1l> thresh: right, its the debug repo
[11:50] <thresh> it's really weird, https://gist.github.com/thresheek/d04a0336be6d72bdd94d5159164f11b7
[11:50] <thresh> zero-sized file with a weird name ./add_to_files.pkg-create-dbgsym suggests something went terribly wrong
[11:50] <thresh> also I wonder why the Epoch is dropped from Depends:
[11:51] <k1l> thresh: this is the main issue: libgcc-6-dev-dbgsym : Depends: libgcc1-dbg (= 6.2.0-5ubuntu12) but 1:6.2.0-5ubuntu12
[11:54] <thebigj> Hello, I want to install http://calise.sourceforge.net/wordpress/ to my Ubuntu 16.04
[11:54] <thebigj> I found PPA from this http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/calise-sets-screen-backlight-based-on.html
[11:54] <thebigj> I am not sure it is available for Ubuntu 16.04 64bit
[11:55] <thebigj> Can anyone guide me how can I find that version?
[11:55] <thebigj> Thanks
[11:55] <BlueShark> Anyone using 16.10 can tell me what's the kernel that you have installed?
[11:56] <thresh> BlueShark, says 4.8.0-22-generic for me
[11:56] <thresh> linux-image-extra-4.8.0-22-generic 4.8.0-22.24
[11:56] <nailyk> hi all. Small probel with a dell d830. I have 2x4Gb memory in it. In bios DIMM are fine. Under xubuntu 16.04.1 each dimm are displayed at 2Gb only.
[11:56] <ppf> !info linux-image
[11:56] <ppf> !info linux-image-generic
[11:56] <nailyk> Does someone have an advice please? Internet search doesn't provide a lot of info on this
[11:57] <nailyk> (tested with lshq and dmidecode)
[11:57] <nailyk> *lshw
[11:57] <tatertots> thebigj: you want to install wordpress - weblog manager?
[11:57] <hateball> thebigj: You're on your own when it comes to PPAs. Also looking at the wiki page for that program it hasnt been tested since 12.04
[11:57] <thresh> k1l, I agree but I suspect that dbgsym generator is broken on Ubuntu side
[11:58] <thebigj> hateball: Yes. I observed that.
[11:58] <hateball> thebigj: maybe F.lux or Redshift could do what you want
[11:59] <thebigj> hateball: Thanks for reply but Redshift, F.lux is for cutting blue light
[11:59] <thebigj> hateball: I want to auto adjust the brightness of my screen.
[12:00] <thebigj> hateball: When I change my environment I have to manually adjust the brightness which I don't like.
[12:00] <hateball> thebigj: sure, I get that
[12:00] <hateball> altho with redshift you can leave color temp untouched and only adjust brightness
[12:00] <hateball> but that's still based on time, so
[12:05] <TuxCrazy> hello..
[12:05] <TuxCrazy> I just got my new laptop.
[12:05] <TuxCrazy> Would installing Lubuntu on it be ok?
[12:06] <Ben64> probably
[12:06] <TuxCrazy> It has Intel Core i3 2 Ghz cpu, 4 gb ram and 1 TB HDD.
[12:09] <TuxCrazy> I will go for Xubuntu 16.10.
[12:10] <tiox> Is there any way to make apt not broken while keeping older packages?
[12:11] <tiox> Because I keep being barked at by update manager saying "The package system is broken" even though I locked all packages that attempt to update (and this break some software I have installed).
[12:12] <thebigj> hateball: What do you think about installing Calise from source?
[12:14] <hateball> thebigj: go for it if you like, it's also outside the scope of support for this channel
[12:15] <thebigj> hateball: I agree. Thanks for helping me. :)
[12:16] <nailyk> doesn't look like a pae problem (cpu support pae and forcepae at boottime didn't change)
[12:16] <nailyk> it is not the 3.2G problem because 4Gb are detected and I'm on a 64bit version.
[12:16] <nailyk> Really running out of ideas
[12:17] <thresh> nailyk, what does dmidecode tell?  (I'm not sure if it's helpful though)
[12:17] <nailyk> dmidecode tell 2x2Gb
[12:17] <nailyk> instead of 2x4gb
[12:18] <thresh> tried upgrading BIOS?
[12:18] <nailyk> yes I am on latest version
[12:19] <nailyk> I read all the bios setting options, nothing related. And the internal gpu had dedicated memory
[12:20] <k1l> what does bios tell about ram size?
[12:21] <thresh> nailyk, I guess it's a BIOS bug.
[12:21] <tiox> Okay I see my problem now. For some reason another package I had locked decided to update anyway.
[12:21] <tiox> I thought locking a package meant to never touch that package?
[12:22] <nailyk> thresh: I saw about that and on dell website says it is corrected into the version I installed
[12:22] <nailyk> k1l: 2x4Gb :s
[12:22] <nailyk> memtest also tell 2x2GB
[12:22] <FinalX> odd. can't be an unplugged dimm then if it keeps saying 2x<whatever>
[12:23] <thresh> nailyk, http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/software-os/f/3524/p/19492200/20722788#20722788 suggests some "fix"
[12:23] <nailyk> like bankA & bankB from one DIMM
[12:23] <thresh> basically avoiding BIOS :-)
[12:24] <nailyk> ok I will try with other bios versions and other dimms
[12:24] <TuxCrazy> is Xubuntu 16.10 stable?
[12:24] <k1l> TuxCrazy: yes
[12:24] <nailyk> xubuntu LTS, don't remember if .10 or .04
[12:24] <tiox> Only for six months, before you have to update. :P
[12:24] <tiox> 16.04 is LTS.
[12:24] <TuxCrazy> I am installing Xubuntu on my brand new laptop, now.
[12:24] <k1l> TuxCrazy: but you need to upgrade to the next ubuntu version every 6 months. so if you dont want to upgrade that often better use 16.04
[12:25] <TuxCrazy> I don't mind updating it.
[12:25] <nailyk> thanks for help. Be back after tests.
[12:25] <FinalX> plus 16.04 has a cooler codename
[12:25] <tiox> Remember, he's crazy. ::P
[12:25] <FinalX> xenial, types nicely as well
[12:25] <FinalX> yakkety not so much
[12:25] <TuxCrazy> nailyk. how are you?
[12:26] <tiox> FinalX: I don't think "Feel" is what Ubuntu devs aim for with version names.
[12:26] <tiox> Bot I do agree, Xenial is better to type. Yakkety? I just remember Yakkety Sax and that helps.
[12:26] <TuxCrazy> if it is not risky, I'll go for 16.10 now.
[12:27] <k1l> TuxCrazy: just keep in mind you need to upgrade every 6 months then untill you reach version 18.04
[12:27] <FinalX> tiox: I know it's not what they aim for, but it was excellent that it coincided :)
[12:27] <tiox> It's not risky, just means you have to upgrade every six months until 18.04, where you can then decide if you want to remain with LTS or continue the upgrade cycle.
[12:27] <tiox> That's a year and a half from now.
[12:27] <TuxCrazy> ok.
[12:28] <TuxCrazy> let me try 16.10. Tha live usb is ready now.
[12:28] <tiox> I would say "What the hell go for it" with 17.10 but I would stick with 16.04 unless there is some compelling reason to upgrade based on hardware and / or software.
[12:28] <tiox> Like, for me I am on 16.10 because of the new xrandr that doesn't suck donkey butt for me.
[12:29] <tiox> Like, why xrandr  16.04 I cannot define 1920x1080 without errors but on 16.10 it's much easier to set up?
[12:29] <tiox> xrandr on 16.04*
[12:30] <tiox> (Also, xrandr spits out different names for outputs between 16.04 and 16.10; LVDS1 and HDMI1 vs. LVDS-1 and HDMI-1.)
[12:31] <TuxCrazy> I think, 16.10 comes with latest versions of packages and latest features.
[12:37] <TuxCrazy> guys, can anybody please help me here? How much disk space would be needed if I need to install Xubuntu 16.10. I mean what should be the partition size? this new laptop has 1 TB HDD. how much should be swap partition? and Home?
[12:37] <k1l> 20Gb for /, swap = ram-size. rest for /home
[12:37] <ikevin-> TuxCrazy, 50Gb will be sufficient
[12:38] <mukluks> about tree fiddy
[12:38] <TuxCrazy> it has 4 gb ram and 1 TB hdd.
[12:38] <k1l>  /home is where all your personal data will be stored. / (with a seperate /home) is only for system data. 20GB is more than enough for that.
[12:39] <TuxCrazy> ok. 20 gb for /home. for swap and /?
[12:39] <k1l> TuxCrazy: no
 20Gb for /, swap = ram-size. rest for /home
[12:39] <TuxCrazy> k1l, please specify again.
[12:40] <TuxCrazy> ok. 20 gb for root. swap=4gb and rest for /home. correct?
[12:40] <k1l> yes
[12:40] <TuxCrazy> ok. can I make it 40 gb for root?
[12:41] <k1l> its your system. you can do what you want.
[12:41] <TuxCrazy> If I need to install wine and virtual box later, how much it should be?
[12:41] <k1l> 20GB is enough with a lot of programs. because the VMs are stored inside your /home. only the basic program data is in /.
[12:42] <TuxCrazy> ok. I didn't know that.
[12:42] <k1l> ubuntu got a way more clever setup than windows in that regard.
[12:42] <TuxCrazy> I'll be using some heavy packages like Libre Office etc.
[12:42] <alwyn> Hi! I'm having some problems with too many open files and setting ulimit. Is there a way I can see where the value I see from ulimit -n comes from?
[12:43] <tiox> Yay I managed to fix my own issue. I am still having errors about repos not having release files but that is because said repos have not updated to Yakkety yt.
[12:43] <tiox> yet*
[12:43] <alwyn> Ubuntu 14.04
[12:43] <TuxCrazy> or probably more heavier packages than that if I need them.
[12:43] <k1l> TuxCrazy: doesnt matter. i am using a lot of heavy packages like libreoffice, the whole latex stack, several browsers etc etc and only use 12GB for /
[12:43] <tiox> The update system can be a pain in the ass sometimes but it works if you work hard enough.
[12:43] <TuxCrazy> great.
[12:44] <k1l> TuxCrazy: 20GB is already huge for the system. dont compare to windows sizes. windows wastes a lot of space. way too much.
[12:44] <TuxCrazy> yes. That's why I switched to Linux. No anti virus and such softwares needed at all, here.
[12:44] <k1l> TuxCrazy: you can use 40GB if you feel more comfortable then. its your system, you decide
[12:45] <TuxCrazy> k1l, ok.
[12:45] <tiox> It's not that it's a waste of space, it's that Windows has this huge-ass legacy library set to support.
[12:45] <tiox> If that's one thing Windows can be complimented on, it's that you can still run software from Windows 98 on it if you wanted to.
[12:46] <tiox> Software from Windows 98, on Windows 10 rather.
[12:46] <alwyn> TuxCrazy: that also depends on how you treat your system though :) For example you should run most programs as your own user, and avoid having to use root as much as possible. That alone does most of the job :)
[12:47] <TuxCrazy> alwyn, I didn't get you.
[12:48] <tiox> Try running a piece of software for Linux from 98, on any Linux system today; You'd end up needing to make symbolic links in /opt or manually adding older libraries no longer maintained by your distributor.
[12:48] <Walex> I use 50GB for MS-Windows 7. Every run of "Windows update" takes  more space. Itr is possible to cleanup unnecessary old upgrades, and that helps, but it still grows relentlessly
[12:48] <nailyk> Walex: it is a feature of M$. Look at %windir%\csc
[12:49] <tiox> If you're a gamer, you need at least 120GB of space in ~ unless you set it up like I do and have this massive NTFS partition you link stuff in ~ to.
[12:49] <nailyk> finally can't get the d830 working. I replace with 2x2GB dimm and everything is fine. Not solved but workarounded.
[12:50] <alwyn> TuxCrazy: the system's root user is like the administrator on windows. Except Windows tends to use it for a lot more than Linux
[12:50] <Walex> tiox: I do 50GB for MS-Windows and home dir and games on another disk.
[12:50] <TuxCrazy> alwyn, ok.
[12:50] <Night__> tiox:  you can never have enough storage
[12:50] <Night__> nither ram for that mather
[12:51] <tiox> Smart move. I do something similar, but I ended up keeping my games on my Windows partition where the system is anyway.
[12:51] <tiox> Because it's a craptop I am using, doesn't really matter. Else I would have a desktop with this huge-ass RAID and I would keep my games and personal effects on that.
[12:51] <alwyn> Depends, really. I've had 16GB of RAM for 6 or so years now and I never have problems with my PC needing to use SWAP.
[12:51] <tiox> Personal effects, speaking of; I do keep that on a separate partition.
[12:51] <Night__> there is noo readon at all that you can'r run games onf a network drives
[12:52] <Night__> I do that, I run them over a 10gigabit  connection to my server where gamaes are in ssds
[12:53] <royal_screwup21> echo `expr $a+$b`; is this the correct way to add two integers a and b, using bash?
[12:54] <tiox> On my Linux system my system partition is twice as big as my home partition because I didn't want ~ taking up all this space that can be used for the NTFS partition I link everything to; It's how I keep access to my personal effects obtained in that system on Windows.
[12:54] <ikevin-> royal_screwup21, echo $((a+$b))
[12:55] <royal_screwup21> ikevin Cool, thanks! Isn't expr used for this sort of thing though?
[12:55] <tiox> Not trolling; I can share my Conky and terminal output if anyone is interested in how I have that set up.
[12:56] <alwyn> Why do you use NTFS though?
[12:56] <ikevin-> royal_screwup21, no idea
[12:59] <ppf> royal_screwup21: expr is an (old) unix program. $(()) is a bash builtin (and other shells as well, of course)
[13:00] <royal_screwup21> ppf awesome, thanks! What's the significance of the two pairs of brackets though?
[13:01] <ppf> as such, $(()) is not posix compatible. so if that's important to you you should go with expr (or bc)
[13:01] <ppf> it's just the bash math syntax
[13:02] <royal_screwup21> posix compatible?
[13:03] <ppf> posix defines the base capabilities of a shell
[13:04] <ppf> so if you want your script to work an all the shells in the world, that's the set of functions you need to stick to
[13:04] <ppf> dash (the ubuntu default shell) for instance offers little to no extra functionality beyond posix
[13:05] <ppf> other shells (bash, zsh, fish) are much more expressive, at the cost of compatibility
[13:08] <royal_screwup21> https://thepasteb.in/p/76hE4RJ0YOQuV I'm not getting the right arithmetic output using this piece of code. What's wrong with it?
[13:10] <ikevin-> royal_screwup21, syntax is c=`echo "$a + $b" | bc`
[13:10] <ppf> there's also the <<< operator
[13:11] <ppf> which i think is nicer than echo
[13:11] <ikevin-> and is nicer than piping :p
[13:11] <ppf> ya
[13:12] <poco_> hey guys, running Kubuntu 16.04 with a GTX 970 (nvidia-367) and I'm getting a lot of screen tearing in apps like Chrome and Steam games. Any advice?
[13:13] <royal_screwup21> ikevin it's still not working :/ I'm getting the output as "$a + $b" | bc
[13:17] <hateball> poco_: this is a desktop, yes?
[13:17] <hateball> poco_: first I'd suggest you use the !ppa to get the latest driver: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-375
[13:17] <hateball> poco_: then there are several ways to fix tearing, either do it at session startup or by writing a proper Xorg.conf using nvidia-settings
[13:17] <ikevin-> royal_screwup21, https://paste.ubuntu.com/23786635/
[13:17] <TuxCrazy> guys, I am not able to boot from the Xubuntu live usb I just created.
[13:17] <TuxCrazy> my laptop is installed with FreeDOS.
[13:17] <TuxCrazy> when I try to boot from the live usb, it takes me to DOS prompt.
[13:17] <ikevin-> TuxCrazy, does usb boot is enabled in your bios?
[13:17] <TuxCrazy> yes.
[13:17] <ikevin-> boot flag is set on the usb stick?
[13:17] <TuxCrazy> I tried a debian based distro MX 16 with live usb. Didn't have this problem.
[13:17] <TuxCrazy> I tried both just now.
[13:17] <TuxCrazy> yes. live usb of MX 16 booted without any problem.
[13:17] <ikevin-> format the stick as fat32 and try to resend the xubuntu iso to the stick using unetbootin
[13:18] <poco_> hateball, yes desktop. I heard that 375 isn't very stable. you have different experiences?
[13:18] <busylittlebee> hey
[13:18] <royal_screwup21> Ooh, thanks ikevin!
[13:18] <hateball> poco_: you're crossposting, which is a bit annoying. Anyhows, I run it myself with no issues. early 375 was beta, no more
[13:19] <ikevin-> royal_screwup21, you welcome
[13:19] <busylittlebee> what's the difference between add-apt-repository and apt-add-repository
[13:19] <hateball> poco_: you can fix tearing in 367 as well, but 375 has a simpler way in the GUI
[13:19] <busylittlebee> are they the same?
[13:19] <poco_> sounds good. I'll check out 375. I aprpeciate the help hateball
[13:19] <TuxCrazy> EXT 4 will not work?
[13:19] <hateball> poco_: 375 by itself wont fix tearing tho
[13:20] <ducasse> busylittlebee: one is a symlink to the other
[13:20] <poco_> the nvidia settings will have better screen tearing fixes though?
[13:20] <TuxCrazy> ikevin, Ext 4 won't work?
[13:20] <busylittlebee> so that's desiigned to avoid confusion, so that users can use both?
[13:21] <ikevin-> TuxCrazy, no
[13:21] <hateball> poco_: you can run this in a terminal now and it will most likely fix your tearing "nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="nvidia-auto-select +0+0 { ForceCompositionPipeline = On }""
[13:21] <busylittlebee> great k,friendly thinking from ubuntu, ubuntu always cares about users, and makes it easy for them everyting, hence i love it
[13:21] <ducasse> busylittlebee: add-apt-repository 'sounds' more logical than apt-add-repository, but otoh all the apt commands start with apt-...
[13:21] <poco_> hateball, thanks
[13:21] <royal_screwup21> ikevin is there a debugger for shell scripts that would highlight syntax errors?
[13:21] <hateball> poco_: but to make it permanent, it needs to be in a xorg.conf. and nvidia-settings helps you construct that
[13:21] <TuxCrazy> ikevin, which tool to use to format it?
[13:21] <poco_> cool!
[13:21] <TuxCrazy> I am on Lubuntu now.
[13:21] <hateball> poco_: otherwise you need to run that command I gave you every time your session starts
[13:22] <busylittlebee> lubuntu destop environment or the OS tuxcrazy
[13:22] <poco_> ok. Worst case I can make a script for it. But otherwise I'll see what 375 has to offer
[13:22] <ikevin-> royal_screwup21, some text editor have color to help to see syntax errors
[13:22] <busylittlebee> if you are on lubuntu are you allowed on this channeL?
[13:22] <TuxCrazy> Lubuntu Os. I am running Lubuntu 16.10 on my old laptop.
[13:22] <ducasse> busylittlebee: we support all the flavors
[13:23] <TuxCrazy> Need to install Xubuntu 16.10 on my new laptop.
[13:23] <JP____> Even ubuntu Rocky road TM?
[13:23] <JP____> :lol:
[13:23] <poco_> also thanks for the feedback hateball won't crosspost again :)
[13:23] <busylittlebee> ducasee what it means official support , as this channel is same as other distro communities like archlinux which is not official? is this edorsed by canonical?
[13:24] <ducasse> busylittlebee: official for the ubuntu project
[13:24] <TuxCrazy> ikevin, which tool on Lubuntu to be used for formatting a usb drive?
[13:24] <busylittlebee> That's wht is implied by the word official? seems a bit confusing for new users like me who shifted from archlinux
[13:24] <TuxCrazy> busylittlebee?
[13:25] <busylittlebee> i shifted to ubuntu, do you think it's the right decision to leave arch behind as it is not friendly
[13:26] <ducasse> busylittlebee: arch is *not* right for you if your new to linux
[13:26] <tiox> Using any official version of Ubuntu means you have access to the same suite of software as other Ubuntu users do, though if your issue is with your desktop environment in particular is it better to not bring that up here.
[13:26] <sgo11> busylittlebee, I just shifted to archlinux (actually manjaro) from ubuntu desktop. :)
[13:26] <busylittlebee> how do i see the size of the package in the sync repos?
[13:26] <tiox> Like, I would never talk about MATE issues here in Ubuntu because Ubuntu uses Unity which is Compiz++ and Canonical's own interface offering.
[13:27] <busylittlebee> Packages that are not installed by me
[13:27] <hateball> poco_: did you notice if tearing went away?
[13:27] <sgo11> ikevin, I fixed my dnsmasq problem by reading this blog https://techtuts.info/2014/04/dnsmasq-2-69-sudden-timeouts/. the new dnsmasq version has to set listen-address explicitly.
[13:27] <poco_> hateball, I'm rebooting right now to see if the drivers took
[13:27] <tiox> That is why, if you were to join #compiz-reloaded you daren't bring up anything about Compiz 0.9 because Scott maintains an outdated version of Compiz which he will cladly teach you to install.
[13:28] <ikevin-> sgo11, good to know !
[13:28] <tiox> gladly teach*
[13:28] <hateball> poco_: oh you upgraded first
[13:28] <poco_> yeah
[13:29] <mozammel> is there anybody succeed to make linux-phc work ?
[13:30] <poco_> hateball, the driver took. Other than that command you provided what should I be looking for in 375 that helps me change the xorg.conf?
[13:31] <TuxCrazy> guys, how can I format a USB drive to FAT32?
[13:31] <TuxCrazy> any gui tool for that?
[13:31] <Snowboarder> Tux:why you are formating?
[13:31] <norgra> Hi, I recently purchased an Asus X555DA laptop and when I installed Ubuntu on it it worked great except it's constantly disconnecting from my wifi. The only way I can use the internet on it atm is through ethernet. I've tried updating drivers, the kernal, asking for help on the forums and reddit, but I have yet to find a solution. If any of you can help I'd really appreciate it.
[13:31] <alwyn> mozammel: instead of asking that you should lay out your problem, we can't help you with a question like that
[13:32] <TuxCrazy> need to write Xubuntu 16.10 on it.
[13:32] <TuxCrazy> to created a live usb.
[13:32] <hateball> poco_: run "nvidia-settings" which lets you configure options. it has that option for ForceCompositionPipeline and you can tick that and then save to xorg conf
[13:32] <hateball> poco_: but first, just run the command as I gave it to you, to set that option immediately, see if tearing is gone
[13:33] <hateball> poco_: no point messing with xorg.conf if that doesnt do it
[13:34] <poco_> hateball, huh that command just blacked out my second monitor.
[13:35] <hateball> poco_: oh. :D
[13:35] <hateball> poco_: should have mentioned you had multiple
[13:35] <hateball> poco_: need to adjust it then !
[13:35] <poco_> hateball, it's all good. I just renabled it
[13:35] <mozammel> alwyn: my detail question is , I'm interested to increase my laptop batterylife, I use TLP , but to undervolt CPU need kernel phc patch. there was a kind man from linux-phc channel try to help me but there is some error while finle installation I want some one help me step by step. my system ubuntu 16.10, unity, kernel 4.8.0-32-generic
[13:36] <mozammel> alwyn:  could you help me please ?
[13:36] <hateball> poco_: try this instead: nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode="$(xrandr | sed -nr '/(\S+) connected (primary )?[0-9]+x[0-9]+(\+\S+).*/{ s//\1: nvidia-auto-select \3 { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }, /; H }; ${ g; s/\n//g; s/, $//; p }')"
[13:36] <mozammel> my cpu is core i7
[13:36] <hateball> poco_: that should take all your screens in consideration
[13:36] <oniichan> hellp
[13:37] <alwyn> mozammel: http://xyproblem.info/
[13:37] <poco_> hateball, cool give me a second to see if the screen tearing stopped
[13:38] <mozammel> alwyn: thanks, it was so informative.
[13:39] <poco_> hateball, wow! I think that did it!
[13:40] <oniichan> hellp me
[13:40] <poco_> both Chrome and a steam game I noticed it was really bad on don't show any signs of tearing!
[13:40] <alwyn> mozammel: sorry mate but you should re(de)fine/clarify your question/problem
[13:42] <poco_> hateball, so should I add that last command to xorg.conf?
[13:43] <busylittlebee> hi
[13:43] <busylittlebee> when i do apt-cache show pkg whawt are the units of size?
[13:43] <busylittlebee> and also where is installed size vs downloads size?
[13:43] <busylittlebee> as download size wili be leess
[13:44] <norgra> Hi, I recently purchased an Asus X555DA laptop and when I installed Ubuntu on it it worked great except it's constantly disconnecting from my wifi. The only way I can use the internet on it atm is through ethernet. I've tried updating drivers, the kernal, asking for help on the forums and reddit, but I have yet to find a solution. If any of you can help I'd really appreciate it.
[13:45] <ikevin-> norgra, does dmesg show you errors about your wifi card?
[13:52] <norgra> ikevin, what is my wifi card listed as?
[13:53] <ppf> norgra: does dmesg show you errors
[13:53] <norgra> ppf, yea a few
[13:53] <ikevin-> you can pastebin the result of dmesg?
[13:54] <norgra> yes
[13:55] <Akhil> hi am downloaded open cv . please anone jhelpme how to install it
[13:56] <norgra> Here you go: http://pastebin.com/3t715fNM
[13:57] <poco_> hateball, since Ubuntu doesn't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf where should I tell it to use FullForceCompositionPipeline?
[13:57] <Akhil> hi am downloaded open cv . please anone jhelpme how to install it
[13:57] <ppf> poco_: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:57] <ikevin-> norgra, [ 2169.630731] wlp1s0: deauthenticating from 20:25:64:4c:48:63 by local choice (Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING)
[13:58] <poco_> ppf, it doesn't exist. Should I create it?
[13:59] <ppf> sure
[14:02] <norgra> ikevin, what does that mean?
[14:02] <hateball> poco_: you will need to create one yourself, thats what nvidia-settings can help you with
[14:02] <poco_> hateball, yep just figured that out :)
[14:03] <poco_> I;m editing it right now
[14:03] <Akhil> hi please helpme to install opencv
[14:03] <poco_> hateball, now do I add that entire command you sent me? that's what I'm trying to figure out now
[14:03] <hateball> poco_: no, you open the nvidia-settings as I said, and then do the config as you like it and press the Save button
[14:04] <poco_> but my GUI config has no options for FullForceCompositionPIpeline
[14:04] <ikevin-> norgra, see https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2259037
[14:04] <hateball> poco_: hmmm, run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[14:04] <hateball> poco_: it's possible nvidia-settings didnt get updated to latest version from PPA when you added it
[14:05] <hateball> poco_: also, since you're on Kubuntu, you may want to use Kubuntu Backports PPA for a more stable experience if you are not already
[14:05] <hateball> poco_: certainly when using multiple monitors
[14:05] <poco_> I haven't heard of Kubuntu Backports
[14:05] <ubuntu-mate> as;ldkfjapsodfjas;dflk
[14:05] <ubuntu-mate> exit
[14:06] <poco_> I just add the backports ppa?
[14:06] <hateball> !who | poco_
[14:07] <hateball> poco_: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports && sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[14:07] <poco_> hateball, copy!
[14:07] <Akhil> hi  please help me to install opencv
[14:08] <hateball> poco_: with plasma 5.6 that is default in 16.04 you'll have fun things like panels going missing and screen config resetting itself at random etc
[14:08] <hateball> poco_: with the PPA you get plasma 5.8.x, and it's very much more stable overall
[14:08] <poco_> hateball, yeah I'm also having some issues with theming (breeze dark) that I didn't have with my laptop but that's a whole seperate issue haha
[14:10] <poco_> hateball, alright I need to restart real quick. It was a pretty gigantic update
[14:10] <royal_screwup21> I want to write a bash script so that every time I create a .cpp file, it always has the words "xyz" in it. How do I do that?
[14:11] <norgra> ikevin, I followed the instructions in the thread, but it didn't work.
[14:11] <ppf> royal_screwup21: probably not with bash but with your editor
[14:12] <royal_screwup21> ppf Oh okay. Is there a way I can do that on Vim?
[14:13] <ppf> sure, you can hook it into the autocmd events
[14:13] <ppf> there's one for new files
[14:15] <ikevin-> norgra, if you can, make a test with another key type on your AP
[14:16] <hateball> poco_: Yes it's big update, but hopefully it should only fix and not break things :p
[14:16] <poco_> hateball, I <3 things not breaking
[14:16] <norgra> ikevin, My ap?
[14:16] <jk^> hi
[14:17] <ikevin-> norgra, your wifi access point
[14:17] <jk^> please, on the website ubuntu.com where are the alternative versions of ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu e so on?
[14:17] <poco_> hateball, hold on my mouse stopped working upon reboot :/
[14:18] <hateball> poco_: did you do the xorg.conf at the same time, or had you tested that before updating plasma?
[14:18] <hateball> poco_: as an ill configured xorg will murder your mouse :p
[14:18] <poco_> crap. I did the save to X conf from Nvidia settings but I didn't mess with it
[14:19] <poco_> hateball, alright another reboot fixed the mouse
[14:20] <poco_> hateball, boom Force Composition Pipeline is not a radio button!
[14:20] <poco_> hateball, you sir are #1
[14:21] <hateball> poco_: :)
[14:24] <norgra> ikevin, I couldn't use any other Keys, but I have a new pastebin: http://pastebin.com/Bdcsu1KH
[14:26] <hateball> poco_: note that what it does is apply a kind of lowlevel systemwide vsync, so you may experience a performance hit. I've personally not seen any real world difference
[14:26] <hateball> poco_: not having tearing is worth it at any rate
[14:27] <poco_> hateball, yeah I saw a blog mention that although I'm willing to take the performance hit as the tearing was really jarring
[14:27] <ikevin-> norgra, [   58.996386] wlp1s0: Connection to AP 20:25:64:4c:48:63 lost
[14:27] <ikevin-> norgra, does the signal is good?
[14:28] <poco_> hateball, just in case this is a quick fix, any idea why my breeze dark theme isn't applying correctly? imugur.com/4uLORzj.png
[14:29] <hateball> poco_: broken url
[14:29] <norgra> ikevin, No, I can still only use wifi for a few minutes before it cuts out and I have to switch to ethernet.
[14:30] <poco_> hateball, http://i.imgur.com/4uLORzJ.png
[14:30] <ikevin-> norgra, try to reconnect it and do a "iwconfig"
[14:30] <hateball> poco_: heh. are you applying just the theme, or are you using look and feel ?
[14:31] <poco_> hateball, both
[14:32] <poco_> hateball, I even went through colors and all display options and it matches 100% to what I have on my laptop which looks fine
[14:32] <hateball> poco_: odd. tried applying another look and feel and then dark again?
[14:32] <poco_> hateball, tried it but will try again
[14:33] <poco_> hateball, it changes back to Breeze fine
[14:35] <poco_> hateball, got it. I forgot to change gtk settings
[14:36] <poco_> hateball, it looks like it's all good now
[14:36] <hateball> poco_: good good :)
[14:36] <poco_> hateball, seriously man, I really appreciate all of your help today! It really means a lot that you took time out of your day to assist me
[14:36] <hateball> poco_: well I'm at work, what else am I supposed to do? work?
[14:36] <hateball> pay it forward as they say :)
[14:37] <poco_> hateball, haha well I'm supposed to be at work too but since I live in the tundra we have a delayed start due to it being the planet of Hoth outside! and yes I'll be sure to pay it forward
[14:38] <jk^> excuse me: have the alternative versions of ubuntu dedicated website? however, where can i find a list of all alternative versione of ubuntu? On main site www.ubuntu.com i can't find them or their list :\
[14:38] <hateball> poco_: it's easy to solve problems when I have had them myself also :p
[14:38] <KristijanZic> guys, I remember there was a lot of media coverage on Ubuntu having ZFS support. I have Ubuntu 16.04 now but ZFS is nowhere to be found. Is there a support for it or isn't?
[14:39] <norgra_> ikevin, Barely got it: http://pastebin.com/URd02rtn
[14:39] <ppf> !zfs
[14:39] <ppf> KristijanZic: ^
[14:39] <ikevin-> norgra_, i see you'r using a 5ghz access, can you try with 2.4Ghz?
[14:40] <norgra_> ikevin, how would I do that?
[14:43] <ikevin-> norgra_, iw dev wlp1s0 scan
[14:43] <ikevin-> and see if your access point have frequency on 2.4ghz
[14:43] <KristijanZic> Is there a way to use ZFS form the desktop installer, is that something that is going to be added in the near future?
[14:44] <ppf> KristijanZic: not in the gui installer, no. but you can drop to the live system, install zfs there and partition the disk
[14:44] <ikevin-> norgra_, can you pastebin the result of "iw event -f" too
[14:45] <norgra_> ikeven, "command failed: no such device (-19)"
[14:46] <ppf> KristijanZic: if you want zfs to be your root filesystem, you might even need to install the OS manually
[14:46] <ikevin-> norgra_, wlp1s0 is the name you can see with iwconfig
[14:46] <KristijanZic> ppf: So when I partition the disk how I want is it possible to use GUI installer to install Ubuntu?
[14:46] <KristijanZic> ppf: oh, I see
[14:47] <ppf> why not just try and see if the installer can do it
[14:48] <KristijanZic> ppf: I'll try it in vm first, thanks for the help :)
[14:49] <norgra_> ikevin, I misspelled it. Now it says "command failed: Operation not permitted (-1)".
[14:49] <ikevin-> norgra_, are you root?
[14:54] <wiflix> hey yaw
[14:54] <norgra_> ikevin, Okay, now I got an output from it: http://pastebin.com/aZTgiqB6
[14:56] <JP____> ikevin: ofcourse he isn't root :p
[14:57] <ikevin-> norgra_, try: iw wlp1s0 connect <your ap ssid> keys <your key> 2412
[14:58] <wiflix> i have dnsmasq running with bind-interfaces and two interface= sections to offer two distinct dhcp ranges to two interfaces. but somehow dnsmasq listens on all the interfaces :/
[14:58] <wiflix> shouldn't it only listen on those two configured?
[15:02] <live> hello, does installing ubuntu 32 bit edition on a 64 bit machine have any disadvantages?
[15:03] <ikevin-> livepenguin, you'll don't have 64b optimisation :)
[15:04] <livepenguin> what is that?
[15:04] <yeeve> Running a few 16.04 droplets on DO, how safe is it to run apt-get upgrade when running apache/mysql? Should i be backing up or snap shotting the machines, or maybe even testing the update on a clone of a snapshot?
[15:04] <Dreaman> live  yes ram you use and 10 15 low speed
[15:05] <Dreaman> %
[15:05] <Dreaman> but 64 is not stable like 32
[15:05] <ikevin-> 64b is stable :o
[15:05] <livepenguin> ok
[15:05] <k1l> yeeve: ubuntu will not upgrade the versions used on a release. there will be backport patches for heavy bugs and security issues
[15:06] <livepenguin> I am downloading 64 bit edition of Xubuntu now.
[15:06] <k1l> livepenguin: there is no reason to use 32bit if the cpu can handle 64bit. dont listen to the false advice from Dreaman
[15:06] <yeeve> k1l, current server says "122 packages can be updated. 75 updates are security updates." are you saying these shouldn't effect apache/mysql unless it's a backport/security issue?
[15:07] <livepenguin> ok. will use 64 bit edition of Xubuntu
[15:07] <k1l> yeeve: i am saying that not installing the updates makes your system a security issue. look at ubuntu.com/usn what the updates are for
[15:07] <Dreaman> nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ inxi -F
[15:07] <Dreaman> System:    Host: ubuntu-ivan Kernel: 4.9.0-12-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
[15:07] <Dreaman>            Desktop: Unity 7.5.0
[15:07] <Dreaman>            Distro: Ubuntu Zesty Zapus (development branch)  k1l ok boss :)
[15:07] <Dreaman> i am lame
[15:08] <hateball> yeeve: you can do "apt list --upgradable" to show what packages are getting updated
[15:08] <k1l> Dreaman: its not about you using an alpha release or not. its about giving people in here bad advice.
[15:08] <samthewildone> currently using Chromium 53.0.2785.143 and having problems with flash. A lot of the websites I go to have broken links ask to have flash player installed.
[15:08] <Dreaman> k1l ok
[15:08] <livepenguin> when is the next release of LTS?
[15:09] <samthewildone> I don't know about the linux / flash game but this is really annoying as the main sites I use seem to be all broken.
[15:09] <hateball> samthewildone: chromium doesnt have flash, so... you'll need to install pepper-flash
[15:09] <samthewildone> !pepper-flash
[15:09] <hateball> samthewildone: are you on 16.04 or 16.10 ?
[15:09] <samthewildone> 04
[15:09] <k1l> samthewildone: can you show a "sudo apt update && apt-cache policy chromium-browser" in paste.ubuntu.com ?
[15:09] <livepenguin> I am downloading 16.04.1 of Xubuntu now.
[15:09] <hateball> samthewildone: then "sudo apt install pepperflashplugin-nonfree"
[15:09] <norgra_> ikevin, I did as you said and got this: key must be [d:]index:data where
[15:09] <norgra_>   'd:'     means default (transmit) key
[15:09] <norgra_>   'index:' is a single digit (0-3)
[15:09] <norgra_>   'data'   must be 5 or 13 ascii chars
[15:09] <norgra_>            or 10 or 26 hex digits
[15:09] <norgra_> for example: d:2:6162636465 is the same as d:2:abcde
[15:09] <yeeve> hateball, some bits I recognise and some stuff I don't. If you were running a server would you personally back it up before updating?
[15:10] <hateball> yeeve: you should always have backups :)
[15:10] <k1l> samthewildone: i guess you dont have a flash issue, but an outdated chromium
[15:10] <hateball> yeeve: that said, I dont backup/snapshot VMs before any regular updates on Ubuntu, personally
[15:10] <yeeve> hateball, lol that's true, I do have backups (files/db sync'd locally plus weekly snapshots on DO) but I just mean should I be manually snapshotting _just_ before I run apt-get upgrade?
[15:11] <samthewildone> k1l, http://pastebin.com/XB7fQNn0/?e=1
[15:11] <samthewildone> k1l, yeah it was built for 14.04
[15:11] <k1l> samthewildone: you have outdated mirrorservers
[15:11] <samthewildone> I just did a --version
[15:11] <yeeve> hateball, and you've never regretted it? never had a service fail to come back up? I've personally only had issues locally when upgrading to the next release
[15:11] <samthewildone> k1l, how the heck did that happen ?!
[15:11] <hateball> yeeve: nope
[15:11] <samthewildone> I'm using Mate
[15:11] <k1l> samthewildone: wait, that is a 14.04?
[15:11] <samthewildone> hold up
[15:11] <hateball> yeeve: obviously I snapshot before do-release-upgrade
[15:12] <hateball> but that's something else entirely
[15:12] <samthewildone> k1l, how do I check again
[15:12] <k1l> samthewildone: wait, there was a bug and it was fixed for the 16.04 and 16.10 with the chromium 55 version
[15:13] <samthewildone> I don't even remember what version of ubuntu this is
[15:13] <hateball> at any rate, if the site requires flash, Chromium does not have that by default
[15:13] <yeeve> hateball, you've reassured me a lot :) I'll make sure I've got a weekly snapshot on DO and that the sync backups are definitely running but I'll just bite the bullet and see what happens :P
[15:13] <samthewildone> it has to be 16.04
[15:13] <hateball> samthewildone: cat /etc/issue
[15:13] <ikevin-> norgra_, try: iw wlp1s0 connect <your ap ssid> key 0:<your key> 2412
[15:13] <samthewildone> WHAT THE
[15:13] <samthewildone> Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS \n \l
[15:13] <samthewildone> omg
[15:13] <k1l> hateball: there was an issue where flash got broken. it was fixed again with the 55 version on newer releases.
[15:13] <samthewildone> how did I go sooo WRONG!
[15:14] <samthewildone> no wonder half the programs on here don't work
[15:14] <samthewildone> wow
[15:14] <hateball> k1l: yes I know, you still have to have flash tho :p
[15:14] <samthewildone> k1l, this is embarrassing
[15:14] <k1l> hateball: yes
[15:14] <hateball> k1l: and it wasnt clear if they had it at all
[15:14]  * mukluks laughs at samthewildone
[15:15] <samthewildone> how did I do this wrong, I had this installed for like 2 weeks solid.
[15:15] <samthewildone> kids... stay away from beer
[15:15] <Dreaman> samthewildone  64 bit ubuntu just install google chrome
[15:15] <norgra_> ikevin, Ok question, is the key you're talking about my wifi password?
[15:15] <samthewildone> Dreaman, now why would I do that.
[15:16] <samthewildone> Dreaman, I prefer chromium
[15:16] <Dreaman> ok
[15:17] <samthewildone> k1l, is it possible to find the install date ?!
[15:17] <samthewildone> k1l, from when the system started initially? Like a ground zero date for the os.
[15:17] <hydrajump> when I try booting a MacBook Pro 2016 with Ubuntu 16.04.1-desktop-amd64 I get the grub menu, but when I select "try ubuntu" all I get is a black screen.
[15:18] <ppf> samthewildone: ls -lt /var/log/installer
[15:18] <hydrajump> I've googled and tried setting `nomodeset` but that didn't help. Any suggestions
[15:19] <samthewildone> wow
[15:19] <ikevin-> norgra_, yes
[15:19] <samthewildone> http://pastebin.com/5KBHu8WQ
[15:19] <samthewildone> k1l, ^
[15:19] <samthewildone> yep I messed up
[15:20] <samthewildone> I think there might be a reason why I went back to 14.04 though.
[15:20] <k1l> samthewildone: you can upgrade from 14.04  to 16.04 on the LTS upgrade
[15:20] <norgra_> ikevin, Well in that case, I got the same result as last time.
[15:20] <ppf> you forgot that you installed another ubuntu version ?
[15:20] <samthewildone> k1l, nah I prefer to do a clean install, I had enabled the i386 repos and installed a lot of 32bit libs
[15:21] <samthewildone> ppf, I think there was a reason I did it though, I think it was because of the AMD drivers
[15:21] <ikevin-> norgra_, a simple things, when you use the ubuntu wifi configuration tool, do you see your network twice?
[15:22] <ppf> the release upgrade will disable those, if necessary, and/or upgrade your 32bit libs accordingly
[15:22] <ppf> samthewildone: ^
[15:22] <prize> hello
[15:22] <samthewildone> ah
[15:22] <norgra_> ikevin, No, and sometimes it's not even there at all.
[15:22] <ppf> so you might need to reenable/reinstall these extra things afterwards
[15:23] <samthewildone> this is still a fairly fresh install about 2.5 weeks
[15:23] <ppf> it will tell you during upgrade, though, which packages will be upgraded or removed
[15:23] <ikevin-> norgra_, have you tryed to use another firmware image?
[15:23] <norgra_> ikevin, no
[15:24] <Dreaman> samthewildone radeon video card or not work
[15:26] <norgra_> ikevin, How do I switch to another firmware?
[15:28] <Guest63784> waddup
[15:42] <KristijanZic> hi, I have installed zfs on ubuntu 16.04 with "$sudo apt install zfs" now I want to format an external disc in zfs but neither "Disks" app nor "GParted" display ZFS as an option. Why? I'm not familiar with working with ZFS but is there a way to do it from cl? Any "for dummies docs"?
[15:42] <Kushagra> hii
[15:42] <ppf> KristijanZic: that's not really how zfs works
[15:42] <FinalX> KristijanZic: ZFS is a sort of "manual setup only" thing
[15:43] <FinalX> and indeed, what ppf said
[15:43] <Kushagra> Sir i have to ask that in my pc ubuntu is support
[15:43] <FinalX> ZFS is not just a filesystem, it's also software raid
[15:43] <FinalX> so you feed it partitions and it'll create the filesystems automatically when you create a dataset
[15:43] <FinalX> (or feed it disks)
[15:43] <Kushagra> help me
[15:44] <ppf> KristijanZic: read this for more info https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/ZFS
[15:44] <dioo> ciao
[15:44] <k1l> KristijanZic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/ZFS
[15:44] <FinalX> Kushagra: best way to find out is to download the live CD / USB-stick stuff and start your PC from it. Then you can see if it works OK or not.
[15:45] <dioo> dio porco
[15:46] <zhou_xingyu> hi guys
[15:46] <FinalX> dioo: why the hell are you dcc'ing me some random file
[15:46] <zhou_xingyu> I want to know I just delete my windows10 and now just ubuntu,can i mount another sda to home?
[15:46] <FinalX> with a 0.0.0.0 as source IP?
[15:46] <KristijanZic> ppf FinalX k1l does Ubuntu have the same implementation as freeBSD, can i also use their docs?
[15:47] <zhou_xingyu> my home is 70g,and delete win10 i have 370g
[15:47] <k1l> KristijanZic: its using zfsonlinux. i dont know where its different
[15:47] <FinalX> KristijanZic: the commands are pretty much the same. you can also use the original ZFS docs of Oracle. but to get it working from the Live CD you have to do things that are Ubuntu-specific.
[15:47] <ppf> the implementation of course is not identical. but the tools have mostly the same interface
[15:47] <FinalX> does !ops work here? :p
[15:48] <KristijanZic> ok, thanks again
[15:48] <ppf> FinalX: i think
[15:48] <FinalX> !ops dioo Fake dcc sends when he joined, from 0.0.0.0
[15:48] <FinalX> guess not :P
[15:48] <k1l> it works, but the user already left
[15:48] <FinalX> oh, right
[15:50] <FinalX> KristijanZic: keep in mind that the one in BSD is more feature-rich.
[15:50] <FinalX> some features might not exist on the ZoL version Ubuntu has
[15:50] <KristijanZic> FinalX: yes, I figured that is the case
[16:04] <neeca> huhu, what do i have to add to 'Exec=gnome-terminal' if i want it to start snapped at bottom of the screen? (height?)
[16:07] <zhou_xingyu> hi,guys I want to know may I delete the /boot/efi?
[16:07] <zhou_xingyu> I just delete the windows.I want to delete the windod boot manager to
[16:08] <ikevin-> zhou_xingyu, if you delete /boot/efi that will remove ubuntu bootloader too
[16:08] <zhou_xingyu> ikevin-, thank you ,how can I delete the windows boot manager in my grup?
[16:09] <zhou_xingyu> ikevin-, MY boot/efi is fat32,may I delete it and rebuild the ubuntu boot loader?
[16:10] <ikevin-> zhou_xingyu, i don't know, i'm not a efi user :x
[16:10] <zhou_xingyu> thank you
[16:11] <ducasse> zhou_xingyu: no, it needs to be fat32
[16:11] <zhou_xingyu> ducasse, oh I see,thank you
[16:11] <zhou_xingyu> ducasse, I almost delete it.so luck
[16:12] <zhou_xingyu> ducasse, but how can i remove the windows boot manager ?
[16:12] <ducasse> zhou_xingyu: see the man page for efibootmgr
[16:12] <zhou_xingyu> I just do it
[16:13] <zhou_xingyu> I will reboot my pc and see the result
[16:16] <kang0> How to install additional drivers
[16:16] <kang0> In live Linux pen drive
[16:17] <ikevin-> kang0, what kind of driver?
[16:17] <kang0> May be touch or camera ikevin
[16:17] <kang0> Or Wifi  blutooth or similar
[16:18] <kang0> ikevin-
[16:18] <ikevin-> depending of the driver, some time you can use apt, and some time you need to download and compile them
[16:18] <kang0> Will it be installed on same live Linux pen drive? ikevin
[16:19] <kang0> How to find drivers?
[16:19] <kang0> ikevin-
[16:19] <ikevin-> kang0, it will be installed in ram, and you need to reinstall them at every boot
[16:19] <kang0> How to compile? Which tools would be required for it
[16:20] <jge> hey all, anyone else seeing "your connection to this site is not secure" when you go to gmail or do a google search using Chrome?
[16:20] <jge> I know it's related to SHA-1 being phased out but wondering if it's just me that I didn't notice all this time
[16:20] <ikevin-> kang0, it depend of the driver, generaly, when you need to compile, a file called "README" give you the list of tool needed
[16:20] <kang0> Okay that may be the case of live Linux usb drive; what if I have opted vm/qemu
[16:21] <kang0> (kang0) How to find drivers?
[16:26] <Ziberius> hello
[16:28] <Ziberius> has anyone managed to enable flash in opera?
[16:28] <Ziberius> I've downloaded the libflashplayer.so and put it in every opera/plugins directory i can find
[16:28] <Ziberius> and nothing
[16:30] <royal_screwup21> html5 vs flash?
[16:32] <Ziberius> royal_screwup21, what?
[16:32] <royal_screwup21> sorry wrong channel, my bad
[16:32] <Ziberius> ;-)
[16:33] <royal_screwup21> I was just wondering though, are there any tangible benefits from using flash instead of html5?
[16:34] <Ziberius> royal_screwup21, don't think so except for the small amount of sites that still require it
[16:34] <Ziberius> spotify web and deezer still use it :-(
[16:35] <TuxCrazy> why I am not able to boot from live xubuntu usb?
[16:39] <pakcjo> Hello, I'm having problems getting a core dump in ubuntu 14.04, I have a small program that seg faults, i do ulimit -c unlimited; ./myprogram, it says core was dumped, but I can't make apport to show it, there-s nothing in /var/crash/
[16:43] <ducasse> pakcjo: anything in your current dir?
[16:43] <theoceaniscool> pakcjo, This is not the channel for those tipes of problems. That said, try in the owrking directory
[16:44] <pakcjo> theoceaniscool: which is the channel for those type of problems?
[16:44] <pakcjo> ducasse, theoceaniscool ok I do have it in my PWD, thanks
[16:44] <ppf> this channel is fine
[16:45] <pakcjo> thanks
[16:46] <pakcjo> I guess it is not possible to use apport and also modify the core pattern right? (i'd like something more than just "core"
[16:50] <ppf> what would you like?
[16:50] <Raulwynn> Does anyone have some experience with dd?
[16:50] <ikevin-> Raulwynn, yes
[16:51] <TuxCrazy> hello, I am having some problem in booting with Live Xubuntu usb.
[16:51] <parr> !list
[16:51] <TuxCrazy> I have already created the live usb 3 times.
[16:51] <TuxCrazy> I won't boot from that. I doesn't get detected at all.
[16:52] <freddish> Hello, when i try to update from the terminal i get these messages http://pastebin.com/2EQjdGaM
[16:52] <Raulwynn> ikevin-, I am trying to burn an ubuntumate image onto a flashdrive. It's saying that access to /dev/sdf is denied. It's not mounted, fyi.
[16:52] <ikevin-> TuxCrazy, your bios don't have a specific key to be pressed to access to boot menu?
[16:52] <TuxCrazy> I have a new laptop which is pre installed with Free DOS.
[16:52] <ikevin-> Raulwynn, don't mount your device, and be sure to do it as root
[16:52] <TuxCrazy> yes. I have set the boot priority.
[16:53] <TuxCrazy> by pressing F2 key.
[16:53] <Raulwynn> ikevin-, I wasn't doing as root.
[16:53] <Raulwynn> let me try again.
[16:53] <TuxCrazy> ikevin, I created Xubuntu 16.10 live usb and tried to boot from it. But, was unable to.
[16:54] <Raulwynn> ikevin-, Thank you sir! I knew it was something silly
[16:54] <TuxCrazy> As instructed here, I formatted the pendrive to FAT 32 and burned the image file on that.
[16:54] <TuxCrazy> ikevin, but, still unable to.
[16:55] <ikevin-> TuxCrazy, the solution is maybe in your bios settings
[16:55] <TuxCrazy> ikevin, what could be wrong here?
[16:55] <ikevin-> be sure that usb boot is enabled and usb stick is defined before hdd in boot sequence
[16:56] <TuxCrazy> ikevin, I have another pendrive of MX 16 live usb. I can boot from that pendrive.
[16:56] <TuxCrazy> ikevin, but not from this Xubuntu live usb.
[16:57] <ikevin-> TuxCrazy, see with gparted if the stick has a boot flag
[16:58] <TuxCrazy> I can boot this live usb on my old laptop. But, not on my new laptop on which I am trying to install Xubuntu.
[16:58] <freddish> Hello, when i try to update from the terminal i get these messages http://pastebin.com/2EQjdGaM . What can i do to fiox this ?
[16:59] <ioria> freddish, there is no yakkety version of this ppa https://launchpad.net/~noobslab/+archive/ubuntu/themes
[16:59] <ioria> freddish, the latest is for xenial, you may need to remove that
[16:59] <Raulwynn> ikevin-, Hey so I did dd right? My USB is not showing up anywhere now.
[16:59] <ikevin-> TuxCrazy, that mean it's a bios configuration problem :)
[17:00] <ikevin-> Raulwynn, unplug it an replug it
[17:00] <TuxCrazy> ikevin, what can I do now?
[17:00] <ikevin-> TuxCrazy, <ikevin-> be sure that usb boot is enabled and usb stick is defined before hdd in boot sequence
[17:00] <freddish> ioria, how do i do that ?. What command can i use ?
[17:00] <ioria> !info ppa-purge | freddish
[17:01] <Raulwynn> ikevin-, I have. I check in gparted and it's not there either.
[17:01] <TuxCrazy> ikevin, but, as I said, on my new laptop I don't have any problem booting from MX 16 live usb.
[17:01] <TuxCrazy> ikevin, boot sequence is correct. I can boot from another pendrive.
[17:01] <ikevin-> Raulwynn, see in dmesg what append when you plug it
[17:02] <ikevin-> TuxCrazy, perhaps your bios don't support your key
[17:02] <freddish> ioria, i dont understand what i need to do.
[17:02] <alkisg> TuxCrazy: which live usb has the issue? distro/version/method of creation?
[17:02] <TuxCrazy> ikevin, what is that key?
[17:02] <ikevin-> TuxCrazy, try to use the key who work
[17:02] <ioria> freddish,  you need to purge that ppa
[17:02] <freddish> ioria, how do i do that ?
[17:03] <ioria> freddish,  with the ppa-purge pkg, i linked you
[17:03] <TuxCrazy> alkisg, Xubuntu 16.10. Created using Unetbootin after formatting the pendrive to FAT 32.
[17:03] <Raulwynn> ikevin-, It shows it disconnecting and reconnecting there.
[17:03] <ikevin-> Raulwynn, so no info about partition detected?
[17:03] <alkisg> TuxCrazy: it's quite possible that unetbooting has issues, can you try with dd instead? or with rufus?
[17:04] <ioria> freddish,  http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2012/02/newbie-guide-how-to-use-ppa-purge.html
[17:04] <alkisg> TuxCrazy: i.e. it may create usb sticks that are not bootable in all computers
[17:04] <Raulwynn> ikevin-, It showed the dd completed. I closed it out. I opened gparted and nothing was there. I checked in Tunar and no mounted drive and when I plug it in, I get these meessages; (I will pastebin)
[17:05] <ikevin-> Raulwynn, you have dd the ubuntu iso into /dev/sdb directly?
[17:07] <Raulwynn> yes
[17:07] <ikevin-> Raulwynn, ok, use gparted to create a new partition table on the stick and a new fat32 partition on
[17:07] <Raulwynn> okay hold on
[17:07] <ikevin-> after that, do your dd on /dev/sdb1 and no on /dev/sdb
[17:07] <alkisg> ikevin-, I haven't read the chat, but if it's about dd'ing an ubuntu.iso, it goes to sdb, not to sdb1...
[17:07] <ikevin-> alkisg, are you sure?
[17:07] <freddish> ioria, still dont get it to work. Isnt there a way to fix these error automatic ?
[17:07] <Amm0n> and partitiontable + existing filesystems will get overwritten by the iso
[17:07] <alkisg> ikevin-, completely, the iso contains a fake mbr/gpt wrapper that needs to go to sector 0
[17:08] <ikevin-> alkisg, ok
[17:08] <ikevin-> Raulwynn, follow that alkisg said :)
[17:08] <Amm0n> Raulwynn, maybe you need to sync after dd'ing the iso
[17:08] <alkisg> ikevin-, sorry for the intrusion, I haven't read the rest of the chat :)
[17:08] <Amm0n> just type: sync after the dd process
[17:09] <ikevin-> alkisg, no problem :)
[17:09] <Raulwynn> Okay. I am so lost.
[17:09] <Raulwynn> Here is what I'm trying to do...
[17:09] <alkisg> On another note, all file systems on the stick need to be unmounted before dd'ing
[17:09] <Raulwynn> http://www.instructables.com/id/Boot-the-Raspberry-Pi-from-USB/step2/Burn-the-Image-to-the-Flash-Drive/
[17:10] <alkisg> Raulwynn: what is the image name? is it a tar.xz?
[17:11] <Raulwynn> dd if=/home/#####/Desktop/ubuntu-mate-16.04-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi.img.xz | pv | dd of=/dev/sdf alkisg
[17:11] <ikevin-> Raulwynn, it's a rpi3 ?
[17:11] <Raulwynn> ikevin-, Yes
[17:11] <alkisg> Raulwynn: if it's an .img and not an iso, it's a different story
[17:12] <Raulwynn> ~/facepalm
[17:12] <alkisg> Raulwynn: rpi's boot from a fat partition, so yes you need to dd to sdb1, or even just cp
[17:12] <alkisg> They don't care about mbr or boot code in sector 0
[17:12] <Raulwynn> Okay let me dd to sdb1
[17:12] <alkisg> Raulwynn: also, you need to unzip it somehow, not dump it as .xz
[17:14] <Raulwynn> alkisg, I thought it was gz I don't know what or why. I know that in ubuntu you can just use the window manager program thing to copy xz files
[17:14] <Raulwynn> but I'm running xubuntu core
[17:16] <ikevin-> Raulwynn, tar -xf <file> or tar -Jxf <file>
[17:16] <Raulwynn> ikevin-, please hold.
[17:17] <nicomachus> stupid question of the day: how do I know which is my user login group?
[17:17] <ikevin-> Raulwynn, i need to leave, if tar command don't work, install "unxz" and use unxz <file>
[17:18] <ikevin-> Raulwynn, you will have a .img file that you can dd
[17:18] <Raulwynn> thanks ikevin
[17:19] <bryceml> nicomachus: type groups in a terminal, it should be the first one listed.
[17:20] <nicomachus> bryceml: ok, that's what I thought. still can't get mpd to scan the library, though. I thought it was a perms issue but now I'm not sure.
[17:20] <ppf> nicomachus: what's a login group for you?
[17:21] <Raulwynn> I'm using that unxz command. I don't know if it's even working. The terminal just kinda stopped. Is it similar to the dd command just waiting?
[17:21] <alkisg> Can someone please ban the "Dinner" bot?
[17:22] <nicomachus> ppf: I was just trying to make sure mpd had the right permissions to read my home folder. so I added it to my user group and chmod 710'd. still no luck though.
[17:23] <nicomachus> alkisg: what? what bot?
[17:23] <sere84> is it possible to have two audio outputs playing at the same time synced like bluetooth and headphone jack?
[17:23] <TuxCrazy> actually, I burned the 32 bit edition of LXLE on the same pendrive, and am running the live usb of that and downloading Xubuntu.
[17:24] <alkisg> nicomachus: the "Dinner" user is actually a bot that is sending PMs to the users here
[17:24] <Raulwynn> sere84, Depends on the program
[17:24] <nicomachus> alkisg: check with #freenode
[17:24] <alkisg> nicomachus: I don't know how to call the mods, that's why I'm asking here
[17:24] <alkisg> nicomachus: no, it's per channel
[17:24] <nicomachus> alkisg: then #ubuntu-ops
[17:24] <Raulwynn> sere84, If the program only outputs on channel at a time (Most only do 1) then you can only use that one.
[17:24] <alkisg> nicomachus: it's something like !ops, that triggers an alert
[17:24] <alkisg> !ops
[17:24] <alkisg> Please kick Dinner ^
[17:25] <nicomachus> yea... this would NOT be a good time to use that. better to join #ubuntu-ops and explain tehre.
[17:25] <alkisg> (bot that PMs)
[17:25] <TuxCrazy> alkisg, any solution?
[17:26] <alkisg> nicomachus: eh, if it takes that much effort just to kick a bot... i'll just stop mentioning it :)
[17:26] <alkisg> nicomachus: I'm sure some better solution could be found :)
[17:26] <Raulwynn> Dinner is runnign from an android device... You can bot on droid?
[17:26] <alkisg> I'm sure user agents can be faked
[17:27] <alkisg> TuxCrazy: solution to what problem?
[17:27] <pavlos> Raulwynn, unxz someimage.xz will convert to someimage.img and delete the original. You will just have the .img which you can use dd to write to the SD
[17:27] <sere84> Raulwynn, oh ok i see.  thank you
[17:28] <Raulwynn> sere84 You may try looking for an audio mixer that acts as a "virtual output" that can then output to whatever devices you desire simultaneously.
[17:28] <Raulwynn> pavlos, It just finished.
[17:28] <Raulwynn> I got worried! lmao
[17:29] <TuxCrazy> alkisg, the problem with the live usb of Xubuntu 16.10.
[17:29] <pavlos> Raulwynn, k
[17:30] <alkisg> TuxCrazy: did you see my advice half an hour ago, to try dd or rufus?
[17:30] <Raulwynn> Does anyone know anything on shell scripts python, conda, and all that? I've been working on a project for a couple days and I could use some help. I have a program installed. I can't seem to make a launcher for it.
[17:31] <TuxCrazy> alkisg, I can't try rufus. Because, on both of my laptops there is no Windows installed.
[17:31] <TuxCrazy> and what is dd?
[17:31] <nicomachus> !info dd
[17:31] <nicomachus> what
[17:31] <terrible> someone can help me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23787800/ why my system have all this partition?
[17:31] <alkisg> TuxCrazy: it's a command, something like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/372607/how-to-create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-from-terminal
[17:32] <nacc> nicomachus: it comes from coreutils
[17:32] <nicomachus> ah right
[17:32] <TuxCrazy> alksisg, thanks a lot.  Will try that.
[17:34] <Guest92783> hi
[17:34] <hydrajump> i've tried 16.04 and 16.10 live cd on a usb drive and both just give me a black screen when booting on my macbook pro. I briefly see an error no /boot/ file but nothing else
[17:39] <terrible> someone can help me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23787800/ why my system have all this partition?
[17:40] <Raulwynn> terrible, which SDA is the OS located on?
[17:44] <nacc> terrible: are you referring to the ramdisks or the partitions on sda?
[17:47] <pavlos> terrible, your total disk is 300GB, you have Linux on the first partition (66GB), you have an extended partition with the rest of the disk, in there there is a swap partition (1.9GB) but also 2 other linux partitions. How many installs do you have?
[17:48] <Raulwynn> To anyone, I have been working on a usb booter for pi3 ubuntumate should only be like 3.4gb and it's already been working dd for like 7gb and rising
[17:48] <nacc> Raulwynn: what is your dd command?
[17:49] <Raulwynn> nacc, dd if=/home/abcde/Desktop/ubuntu-mate-16.04-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi.img | pv | dd of=/dev/sdf1
[17:49] <Raulwynn> I'm running dd from root
[17:52] <pavlos> Raulwynn, your SD device is sdf? I think you need to write to sdf not sdf1
[17:53] <terrible> nacc: im talking about the /dev/ram partition on my disk why are there and what can i do with those partition?
[17:53] <Raulwynn> pavlos, I'm making the OS. Not the boot. The boot is running on the SD card.
[17:53] <Raulwynn> Pi3 don't boot from usb so I have to redir the boot from the SD card
[17:54] <nedbat> I'm trying to understand how RLIMIT_NPROC affects threads and processes.  I had code on 12.04 where it only affected processes, and I can see on 16.04 it limits threads as well.  But now I'm getting reports of 12.04 machines where the threads are limited.  What is it that changed to make this limit apply to threads? How can I get to the bottom of this?
[17:55] <jadew> hey, any ideas on how to perform manual color calibration?
[17:55] <nacc> nedbat: on linux, threads and processare identical as far as rlimits are concerned, I believe
[17:56] <nedbat> nacc: they are now, but they have not always been.  that's my experience at least.  I'm trying to understand exactly what component changed when to make the limit apply to both.
[17:56] <Raulwynn> pavlos, I'm giving up on this for right now. Three days has been too long
[17:56] <Raulwynn> lmao
[17:56] <pavlos> Raulwynn, it takes time to dd 4GB
[17:57] <Raulwynn> pavlos, It actually ended up dd 8gb took 30 mins and corrupted the USB so I have to start all over. Tomorrow :D
[17:57] <BluesKaj> Raulwynn, there is an experimental "boot from usb" on rpi  here : http://www.instructables.com/id/Boot-the-Raspberry-Pi-from-USB/
[17:57] <terrible> pavlos: im talking about the /dev/ram partition on my disk why
[17:57] <terrible>                   are there and what can i do with those partition?
[17:57] <terrible> pavlos: im talking about the /dev/ram partition on my disk why
[17:57] <terrible>                   are there and what can i do with those partition?
[17:57] <Raulwynn> BluesKaj, That is what I'm working on.
[17:57] <pavlos> terrible, I dont know how you got those
[17:57] <nacc> nedbat: hrm, it's been that way since i can remember, fwiw
[17:57] <Raulwynn> BluesKaj, unfortunately my USB isn't liking this OS.
[17:58] <nedbat> nacc: i found a precise rlimit man page that says it limits threads also.  hmm...
[17:58] <pavlos> Raulwynn, there is also ddrescue which shows progress as it is writing
[17:58] <nedbat> nacc: I have software running (on edx.org) that has been fine creating threads for years, and today, it is failing. Something changed...
[17:58] <BluesKaj> Raulwynn, yeah, I didn't have much luck either
[17:59] <Raulwynn> I'm going to write it using Ubuntu Disks interface. Eff it. If I fail, I have tried.
[17:59] <BluesKaj> but booting from the sdcard and running the system / on the USB works ok, Raulwynn
[18:00] <nacc> terrible: they are just ramdisk(s), aiui
[18:00] <Raulwynn> BluesKaj, I'm going to try to build this like a normal Live-USB and just have the SD redir the boot
[18:00] <nacc> terrible: http://askubuntu.com/questions/703576/fdisk-l-shows-16-ram-disks-dev-ram0-ram15 e.g.
[18:02] <BluesKaj> Raulwynn, well, if the sdcard just handles the boot stage it last much longer than running the whole OS from it
[18:02] <BluesKaj> it should
[18:05] <Raulwynn> BluesKaj, then I'll just copy the boot dir from the flash drive to the SD. It should work (similar to the experimental play that he made)
[18:05] <Raulwynn> All the hardware is the same for both OS.
[18:05] <terrible> nacc: so it is safe to have those partition? i mean the system is not broken or some kind of virus??
[18:06] <ioria> terrible, http://askubuntu.com/questions/703576/fdisk-l-shows-16-ram-disks-dev-ram0-ram15
[18:06] <nacc> terrible: no, it is not a problem.
[18:12] <terrible> nacc: ok cause yesterday my system crash and when i reboot the system i got a error run fsck so i put the live cd and then i notice all this partition on my disk
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd;3D
[18:13] <Raulwynn> nacc, terrible, I hate multiple partitions. They always cause a pain anytime a partition starts after the 150 GB mark.
[18:13] <nacc> Raulwynn: not relevant to this discussion about ramdisks.
[18:13] <arooni> is there an offline/online command line dictionary for ubuntu?
[18:14] <nacc> terrible: not sure i follow fully, but you don't need the live cd/usb to do a fsck
[18:14] <Raulwynn> nacc, It actually is. Whenever I partition anything starting after the 150 GB mark with this computer, I have problems like you wouldn't believe. Drivers, commands. You name it. Ubuntu doesn't like running after that on *some* devices.
[18:15] <nacc> Raulwynn: no, it is not. terrible asked why there were /dev/ram (disks) partitions on their system.
[18:16] <nacc> Raulwynn: it has nothing to do with physical disks, they are ramdisks.
[18:16] <nacc> Raulwynn: also, your physical system's issues are irrelevant to terrible's question.
[18:16] <terrible> nacc: i use the live cd cause the system doesnt boot normally just let me in a prompt called initrams from there do you know how to get a terminal?
[18:16] <nacc> terrible: ah ok, so it is having some failure to boot now? did it before the crash you experienced?
[18:17] <nacc> terrible: you won't be able to get to your normal OS boot (and then a terminal) without being able to fix the issue you are at now. However, you are at a 'terminal' of sorts, so you should be able to see why it failed to boot
[18:17] <freakyy> hi all. whats the best twitter app for ubuntu?
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> !fin gwibber
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> !find gwibber
[18:19] <nicomachus> freakyy: I like Franz, it has a Tweetdeck plugin that's pretty nice.
[18:20] <nicomachus> otherwise I think the best option is a web browser.
[18:20] <nacc> freakyy: the problem with questions like "what's the best ..." is that it's all opinion.
[18:20] <nacc> freakyy: you are probably best-served trying a few and deciding what you like best, or as nicomachus said, just use the web browser
[18:20] <MonkeyDust> freakyy  'what's the best' depends on what you prefer
[18:20] <nicomachus> also, ubuntu doesn't really have a
[18:20] <nicomachus> "apps"
[18:21] <nicomachus> it has programs, and applications, but not "apps" in the way you're probably of for your phone....
[18:21] <nicomachus> thinking of*
[18:22] <terrible> nacc: i fix the problem with fsck just that now i have those new partition on my disk /dev/ram
[18:22] <nacc> terrible: as explained a few times, they are not on your disk (they are virtual ramdisks).
[18:23] <nacc> terrible: and if you have fixed the problem, you should be able to reboot just fine
[18:23] <terrible> nacc yes the system now boot normally
[18:40] <xpheres> hello
[18:41] <xpheres> how can I solve this? error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:41] <nacc> xpheres: install the libxcursor1 package, maybe?
[18:41] <xpheres> It is installed
[18:41] <xpheres> sudo find ./ | grep libXcursor.so
[18:41] <xpheres> ./home/xpheres/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libXcursor.so.1.0.2
[18:41] <xpheres> ./home/xpheres/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libXcursor.so.1
[18:42] <xpheres> maybe the system does not have the path?
[18:42] <ioria> xpheres, it's not standard path, so you need to tell the linker where it is
[18:42] <nacc> xpheres: are you using steam from ubuntu or from steam repository?
[18:43] <xpheres> It is not steam
[18:43] <xpheres> I'm trying to open a drm free game
[18:43] <nacc> xpheres: using steam's libraries?
[18:43] <nacc> xpheres: as i said, install the *actual* package
[18:43] <nacc> xpheres: the path you provided above is for steam to use (hence the path) via it's wrapper script
[18:43] <xpheres> steam does not work in my computer
[18:43] <xpheres> ah ok
[18:44] <SzateX> Hi. I have Ubuntu 16.04 and i'm trying to calibrate colors in my monitor. But option Settings->Colors->Callibrate is disabled. How to repair it?
[18:44] <xpheres> nacc
[18:44] <xpheres> I search the package in synaptic
[18:44] <xpheres> and it is the last version and it is installed
[18:44] <xpheres> and I did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[18:45] <nacc> xpheres: please provide the command run and full logs
[18:45] <nacc> xpheres: in a pastebin
[18:45] <xpheres> ok
[18:45] <xpheres> the command to run the game that gives the error?
[18:45] <xpheres> ok
[18:47] <xpheres> http://pastebin.com/R6hqA2a0
[18:47] <nacc> xpheres: `ldd ./ponyisland.x86` in a pastebin
[18:48] <mcphail> xpheres: try running "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/xpheres/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/i386/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ ./ponyisland.x86"
[18:48] <xpheres> I updated the pastebin
[18:48] <xpheres> ok mcphail
[18:48] <xpheres> I will do it
[18:49] <Saguro> Can anyone tell me why I keep breaking my live USB when I try to run apt-get dist-upgrade?  it hangs on Kernel common, then won't boot afterwards.  I let it run overnight, and still no go.
[18:49] <xpheres> mcphail I updated the paste bin with your command: http://pastebin.com/R6hqA2a0
[18:50] <nacc> xpheres: right, the program you are running is 32-bit
[18:50] <xpheres> ah
[18:50] <xpheres> that's the problem?
[18:50] <nacc> xpheres: so you probably need libxcursor1:i386 or wahtever
[18:50] <xpheres> ok
[18:51] <mcphail> xpheres: your new error is an error specific to your game, rather than a library error. You'll need to figure out how your game finds its data
[18:51] <xpheres> in synaptic there is no 32 bits library available
[18:51] <xpheres> ah ok mcphail
[18:51] <Saguro> Can anyone tell me why my persistent live-usb breaks when I run apt-get dist-upgrade?
[18:51] <mcphail> xpheres: the steam launcher script would set this up
[18:51] <nacc> mcphail: theya ren't using steam
[18:52] <mcphail> nacc: yep, just explaining why it isn't working
[18:52] <nacc> mcphail: ah right, yes
[18:52] <xpheres> mcphail unfortunatelly my steam stopped working several months ago, I opened an issue in steam and never resolved the problem, I followed steam troubleshooting with no success
[18:52] <xpheres> so maybe that's the reason
[18:53] <mcphail> xpheres: don't think so. You just need to find out exactly _how_ steam launches that game and adapt it to your needs. Perhaps ask in the steam forum for your game?
[18:53] <xpheres> ok mcphail
[18:53] <xpheres> I will try that
[18:55] <Saguro> Can anyone tell me why my persistent live-usb breaks when I run apt-get dist-upgrade?
[18:55] <Whiskey> If i have ubuntu 16.04 i can still download software for 16.10 right?
[18:55] <Whiskey> whit apt-get
[18:56] <Pici> Whiskey: no
[18:56] <batman_> budgie FTW
[18:56] <Whiskey> :/
[18:56] <Sc882k1> hello world
[18:56] <Sc882k1> pastebin
[18:56] <Whiskey> i need this, http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/tcl8.6
[18:56] <Pici> Whiskey: software in a given release's respository is designed for that release alone.
[18:57] <Whiskey> Pici: but it culd still work :D
[18:57] <nicomachus> Whiskey: you'd have to upgrade to 16.10
[18:57] <Pici> Whiskey: You need 8.6.6? or just 8.6?
[18:57] <Whiskey> ups, i run 14.04 :D
[18:57] <Whiskey> 8.6.6
[18:57] <Whiskey> i could build it myself but naaa :D
[18:58] <Sc882k1> pastebin
[18:58] <Pici> Sc882k1: Can we help you with something?
[19:02] <pavlos> Sc882k1, you can install it, sudo apt install pastebinit
[19:11] <sargas> Good morning: How can I make sure `arg` (line 23) lives long enough? https://is.gd/16iUul
[19:13] <sargas> `arg` must outlive `self.sep`, but I don't know how. I tried cloning `arg` but the error remains.
[19:13]  * mukluks looks at sargas... looks at channel name... looks back at sargas
[19:14] <sargas> hot damn, This IRC client moved me to the lasted logged on channel
[19:14] <sargas> mukluks: Thanks for the subtle nudge :)
[19:14]  * mukluks laughs
[19:17] <Saguro> Can anyone point me to a reliable S/NES emulator?
[19:18] <genii> !info zsnes | Saguro
[19:19] <Saguro> Thanks genii/ubottu
[19:23] <hwpplayer1> hi i have a tutanota mail adress and i use it for Canonical / Ubuntu services , i can't read the Launchpad mail which is signed by GPG is it about Tutanota webmail service ?
[19:24] <hwpplayer1> Tutanota doesn't accept other clients i can only use it on it's own android app and webmail
[19:25] <popey> hwpplayer1: you can add another email address to your launchpad account
[19:26] <hwpplayer1> popey : so it is about tutanota right ?
[19:26] <Guest5301> h
[19:26] <popey> hwpplayer1: i dont quite understand the issue
[19:27] <Guest5301> --
[19:27] <popey> hwpplayer1: did you trigger the mail in launchpad somehow?
[19:27] <popey> hwpplayer1: maybe signing the code of conduct or something?
[19:28] <hwpplayer1> popey : A message has been sent to mertgor@tuta.io, encrypted with the key xxxx. To confirm the key is yours, decrypt the message and follow the link inside.
[19:30] <popey> hwpplayer1: not a lot we can do, you have a flawed email provider
[19:30] <Hulio> i was wonder if i flash custom firmware for my router, will I be able flash back the stock firmware?
[19:30] <popey> Hulio: depends on the router, and what you flash it with. Mine does
[19:31] <k1l> Hulio: i doubt that router is running ubuntu. so you might want to talk to their support
[19:31] <Hulio> popey: i have Asus AC1900P  , so if i flash with dd-wrt,  can it be undo by flashing back to stock firmware?
[19:31] <popey> Hulio: no idea, ask in the ddwrt support forums? (also, use openwrt instead, it's better) ;)
[19:32] <hwpplayer1> popey : what should i do next , add another mail account to Canonical services and new GPG ?
[19:32] <popey> hwpplayer1: thats an option
[19:32] <wafflejock> Hulio, you may want to try #networking or perhaps theres a openwrt or ddwrt channel
[19:33] <genii> Yes, #dd-wrt exists
[19:35] <jaith> Can anyone tell me why www-data user cannot access the contents of a second hard drive mounted as /home?
[19:35] <jaith> root user can read it easily, see it. permissions set to 777 don't even help.
[19:35] <noimnotninevolt> chown -R www-data:www-data /home
[19:36] <hwpplayer1> popey : i'll come back , trying to change mail adress
[19:36] <noimnotninevolt> but that seems like a bad idea either way.
[19:36] <jaith> noimnotninevolt: sadly, other requirements do not permit both user and group to be www-data. group is already www-data with no joy
[19:37] <tatertots> jaith: why? because of permissions and or ownership...that's why
[19:37] <jaith> tatertots: um, no?
[19:37] <Hulio> genii: #dd-wrt exist but then no one is active
[19:37] <jaith> tatertots: permissions group is www-data, entire dir is 777
[19:37] <Hulio> genii: how ironic is that
[19:38] <k1l> Hulio: still offtopic in here. you could ask in ##hardware
[19:38] <tatertots> jaith: ls -ld /home|nc termbin.com 9999
[19:38] <tatertots> jaith: press enter
[19:38] <tatertots> jaith: share url/link here
[19:40] <jaith> um...no thanks? I can just list it and show you that?
[19:40] <Raulwynn> If I wanted to strip everything Ubuntu I.E., Remove everything, where I have a stock linux with the file format from ubuntu to build my own OS. How would I do such a thing? I would like to start with xubuntu core because it doesn't have much on it to start with. Is this something that is even tangible?
[19:41] <Guy1524> why is it that on my laptop, compiz takes 50MB of ram, but on my desktop, it sometimes reaches over 600MB of ram?
[19:41] <tatertots> jaith: well you got your answer, if you can see it yet or not at your current level of experience with permissions not as important, you got your answer, take care, happy new year
[19:42] <nacc> Raulwynn: what is 'stock linux'?
[19:42] <Raulwynn> Guy1524, The OS runs based on the ram that is available. I.E., on my Desktop I have 8GB it takes up 4GB on my laptop I have 4GB and it takes about 2GB, on my Pi3 it has 1GB and takes up 500MB.
[19:42] <Raulwynn> Guy1524, Does that make sense?
[19:42] <Guy1524> Raulwynn: ya
[19:43] <Guy1524> Raulwynn: Im just confused about how it can take 10x the ram to do essentially the same thing
[19:43] <nacc> Guy1524: generally, how much "RAM" is consumed is probaby being mis-measured as well. You want to look at RSS, not VIRT, if using top
[19:43] <nacc> Guy1524: but, it depends entirely on *what* compiz is doing in both cases
[19:44] <Guy1524> nacc: I haven't configured compiz at all on my desktop, but on my laptop I have the wobbly windows plugin enabled
[19:45] <nacc> Guy1524: sorry, I didn't mean what it was configured for, but the process was actually doing (meaning hardware differences which lead to software differences at runtime, etc.)
[19:46] <Guy1524> oh, well my desktop has a GTX 960 12GB of RAM, i5 4460
[19:46] <Guy1524> laptop has ironlake M520, 8GB of Ram, no discrete GPU
[19:47] <nacc> Guy1524: I'm not saying I can figure it out for you, I'm just giving suggestions as to why memory consumption can differ
[19:47] <nacc> Guy1524: how are you measuring your claim?
[19:47] <Guy1524> System Monitor
[19:48] <zargonovski> hey guys , i have a serious question ? can anyone help me with QT app developpement for Hylafax
[19:49] <nacc> zargonovski: probably there is a more appropriate channel than the ubuntu support channel for such a request
[19:49] <darklumos> exactly
[19:49] <jaith> tatertots: not sure I have an answer? The file permissions are clearly readable to www-data: drwxrwxr-x. 2 www-data sudo 60K Jan 11 17:12 home
[19:50] <zargonovski> hey nacc  could you help please
[19:50] <genii> hm, sudo group
[19:50] <zargonovski> don"t know where to dig
[19:50] <nacc> !alis | zargonovski
[19:52] <zargonovski> I'm confused :S
[19:52] <zargonovski> was it a bot lol ?
[19:52] <darklumos> exit
[19:52] <nacc> zargonovski: what are you confused by? Your question is not an ubuntu support topic, please find a more appropriate channel.
[19:53] <tatertots> jaith: can you "su www-data"?
[19:54] <Menzador> !sudo
[20:15] <Norbin> !df
[20:15] <Norbin> !curl
[20:16] <Pici> !man
[20:21] <orianbsilva> hi!
[20:21] <TuxCrazy> hello..
[20:21] <orianbsilva> thres is any command like genfstab to network interfaces?
[20:21] <orianbsilva> or any suggestion how to search this.?
[20:22] <TuxCrazy> wanted to tell, there could be some problem with Xubuntu 16.10 live usb. It doesn't get detected during bootup on some newer laptops.
[20:23] <TuxCrazy> I tried 16.10. It didn't work. Downloaded and installed 16.04.1.
[20:25] <akik> orianbsilva: do you mean "man interfaces" ?
[20:30] <dant3_> Hi. Can anyone help me with boot? I did a fresh install of 16.04 and it wont boot
[20:30] <orianbsilva> i want to export a up and running interface to the /etc/network/interfaces
[20:31] <orianbsilva> like the command genfstab do to maunt to fstab file
[20:31] <orianbsilva> *mount
[20:31] <Rubiss> Bonjour...
[20:32] <tatertots> dant3_: did you try boot-repair?
[20:32] <orianbsilva> something like this "$ geninterface br0 >> /etc/network/interces"
[20:33] <akik> orianbsilva: if you don't have any special configuration, you can write it yourself
[20:33] <tatertots> dant3_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:33] <dant3_> tatertots: not yet. Is it on live cd? Will try it shortly. This is what my bootinfo looks like: http://pastebin.com/LDQQ9QtT
[20:37] <dant3_> ok, it seems that at least I miss bios-boot partition
[20:44] <velus> hello it seems all my net services are running off tcp6 but i need it to run off tcp how do i change this everything is running off this my mail and web what do i need to do to change it
[20:45] <gamester> I switched GPUs, from GTX 970 to 1080. I have the blob driver. Anything I should do like reinstall the driver?
[20:48] <tatertots> gamester: does your smi look correct?
[20:48] <tatertots> gamester: in terminal> nvidia-smi
[20:49] <tatertots> gamester: if it looks good, do nothing.
[20:49] <gamester> tatertots: yeah it does. okay
[20:51] <slavanap> Hello! I captured /dev/sdq1 with ddrescue. How I can convert output image to vhd or vdi?
[20:56] <akik> slavanap: maybe virtualbox's VBoxManage can do it
[20:57] <slavanap> akik, will it recognize difference between /dev/sdq and /dev/sdq1 automatically?
[20:57] <dorkmafia> so I burned  ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso to a flash drive and when I boot off it I don't get the option to install ubuntu it just takes me to my current install
[20:58] <akik> slavanap: i dunno but you can use losetup to make that difference yourself
[20:58] <dant3__> tatertots: I did repartition adding bios-boot partition, rerun boot repair and after reinstalling grub it claims there is an error. http://paste2.org/9cIZfydZ
[20:58] <nacc> dorkmafia: are you sure you are booting off the USB?
[20:58] <dorkmafia> i select it from the boot menu
[20:58] <slavanap> akik, ok, thanks for losetup reference, I'll investigate.
[20:58] <akik> slavanap: also kpartx
[20:59] <slavanap> thanks!
[21:00] <dorkmafia> there is no uefi boot source it's a legacy boot source
[21:00] <dorkmafia> i select the usb drivve
[21:01] <nacc> dorkmafia: and it doesn't take you to a menu like "try ubuntu without installing, install ubuntu, etc."
[21:01] <akik> slavanap: http://stackoverflow.com/a/9153530
[21:02] <slavanap> akik, well, my file does not contain partition table because I copied /dev/sdq1, i.e. first partition on sdq device
[21:02] <dorkmafia> nacc: i don't see that screen :(
[21:02] <slavanap> akik, I can mount it in linux, I just need to convert it for sharing.
[21:03] <dorkmafia> it just takes me to my current install on the disk
[21:03] <dorkmafia> the one i want to over write
[21:03] <slavanap> akik, I'm trying "VBoxManage convertdd z:\fixed.raw d:\disc.vhd --format VHD" now. Hope the output will mount in Windows.
[21:03] <whatnow> dorkmafia: erase the current ubuntu partition
[21:04] <whatnow> dorkmafia, then intall ubuntu
[21:04] <dorkmafia> whatnow: yeah I would if it booted me to that screen where you can do that
[21:04] <whatnow> when you boot from compiuter to usb, try holding shift
[21:04] <whatnow> dorkmafia ^
[21:05] <whatnow> dorkmafia: if you already checked your bios settings for secure boot:disabled and fast boot:disabled
[21:05] <dorkmafia> holding shift after I select the USB in the boot menu?
[21:05] <dorkmafia> oh
[21:05] <dorkmafia> maybe the secure boot is re-enabled
[21:06] <whatnow> dorkmafia, no, shift when turning on computer
[21:06] <dorkmafia> i'll double check that
[21:06] <dorkmafia> what's shift supposed to do when turning cpu on?
[21:06] <whatnow> dorkmafia: check, and ubuntu can install on uefi, so you _shouldnt_ need to change the legacy or eufi settins
[21:06] <whatnow> dorkmafia: shift while turning computer on boots the usb
[21:06] <tatertots> dant3__: during installation are you manually partitioning for linux install ?
[21:07] <dorkmafia> k i'll give that a shot and report back
[21:07] <dorkmafia> ty
[21:07] <whatnow> dorkmafia np
[21:08] <dorkmafia> ok secure boot/fast boot are both disabled
[21:08] <dorkmafia> system security data execution prevetion is enabled does that matter?
[21:08] <dorkmafia> i put PCIe Performance mode enabled as well
[21:09] <whatnow> dorkmafia, it should not affect
[21:09] <dant3___> tatertots: yes I did manual partitioning. Sorry, some problem with IRC connection so I maybe missed something
[21:09] <whatnow> dorkmafia, okay now hold shift and then turn on your computer, with your usb in
[21:10] <dorkmafia> ok and go to boot menu?
[21:10] <dant3___> tatertots: I did bios-boot partiton, separate boot partition and root partition. I also had a swap partition from previous distro I left it untouched for now. There is a recovery partitions as well
[21:10] <whatnow> get into the ubuntu menu and select the 'try ubuntu' dorkmafia
[21:10] <dorkmafia> ok i got some menu
[21:11] <dorkmafia> and on the menu there is
[21:11] <dorkmafia> ubuntu/advanded options for ubuntu/memory test/memory test
[21:11] <whatnow> dorkmafia: is there a try
[21:11] <dorkmafia> no
[21:12] <whatnow> dorkmafia, sounds like youre not in the live usb. are you sure the usb has ubuntu installed?
[21:12] <dorkmafia> i believe it's not using efi boot
[21:12] <dorkmafia> yah it's using ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:12] <whatnow> dorkmafia: what boot mode is your computer bios stating, legacy or efi
[21:12] <dorkmafia> the usb is legacy
[21:13] <whatnow> is that how yo did it the first time
[21:13] <whatnow> dorkmafia ^
[21:13] <dorkmafia> no i had to use unetbootin
[21:13] <dorkmafia> and that ended up installing ubuntu 32bit
[21:14] <dorkmafia> but it was a efi bootable usb stick
[21:14] <whatnow> dorkmafia, if usb is efi, you need to set efi on computer
[21:15] <whatnow> dorkmafia if that doesnt work, try booting from the usb from the boot menu, f12
[21:15] <dorkmafia> so i have to set efi in the bios probably then?
[21:15] <dorkmafia> i think it was set up already
[21:16] <dant3___> it might be there was same problem with previous distro installation. As I understood there was openSUSE installed before, but laptop wasn't booting before I installed ubuntu, which is same that is happening now
[21:16] <dorkmafia> i did boot the usb fromt he boot menu
[21:16] <dant3___> the grub does not appear at all
[21:16] <dant3___> and laptop starts to try different sources
[21:18] <dorkmafia> whatnow: usb efi booting is already enabled maybe the iso on the usb was not correct?
[21:19] <whatnow> dorkmafia: are you dual booting or using the whole disk?
[21:19] <dorkmafia> whole disk
[21:20] <whatnow> okay do you have access to a windows box?
[21:20] <dorkmafia> no
[21:21] <whatnow> okay so we need to use the usb and boot into it, dorkmafia. lemme see..
[21:21] <dorkmafia> i can't even login to the 32 bit install anymore
[21:21] <dorkmafia> i have a osx box
[21:21] <whatnow> youre using a osx box with ubuntu on it
[21:21] <dorkmafia> when i put my pwd in it reloads the screen
[21:21] <dorkmafia> no
[21:21] <dorkmafia> i'm talking to you on my osx vox
[21:21] <whatnow> oh okay
[21:22] <whatnow> dorkmafia, chaange the boot mode on your computer
[21:22] <whatnow> dorkmafia: if it is legacy, change to efi, and vice versa
[21:23] <dorkmafia> it's a hp z820 if that helps
[21:23] <dorkmafia> i can't even logon the 32 bit version that was there anymore :(
[21:24] <dorkmafia> the boot is legacy and uefi
[21:24] <dorkmafia> not sure what you want me to set in the bios
[21:24] <whatnow> did you try to boot the usb? with shift?
[21:25] <whatnow> dorkmafia ^
[21:25] <whatnow> dorkmafia: try changing the boot order
[21:27] <dorkmafia> booting holding shift didn't work
[21:27] <dorkmafia> I believe the usb stick is not efi bootable
[21:28] <whatnow> dorkmafia: then change bios to legacy and boot order so the usb is on top
[21:28] <dorkmafia> ok
[21:29] <whatnow> dorkmafia: after all that, then shutdown and boot
[21:29] <whatnow> dorkmafia: with your usb in
[21:31] <jedi__> my laptop is hanging at "Loading initial ramdisk ..."
[21:31] <jedi__> can anyone assist me troubleshoot?
[21:32] <jedi__> I can boot to recovery shell but it wont boot normally
[21:32] <jedi__> the last thing I did was run a depmod -A and itfrze
[21:34] <nacc> jedi__: why did you run `depmod -A`? and did it freeze or was it just working?
[21:35] <SatansFosterSon> Try booting with another kernel
[21:36] <jedi__> same results @SatansFosterSon
[21:36] <RSA4096> Do you know lessen the blue light laptops with Ubuntu?
[21:36] <k1l> RSA4096: you mean redshift?
[21:38] <dorkmafia> when i'm creating the usb do I want to use MBR or guid partition map?
[21:38] <RSA4096> k1l, the important that it is suitable to protect the eyes reduce the blue light.
[21:38] <k1l> dorkmafia: you create a live ubuntu usb?
[21:38] <k1l> RSA4096: use redshift
[21:39] <k1l> dorkmafia: if you use windows to create the live usb see: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[21:39] <dorkmafia> no using osx
[21:39] <RSA4096> k1l, ok thank you
[21:39] <countingdaisies> This is now what I see when I boot up my system: http://imgur.com/a/toie7   A couple people helped me last night and I thought the problem was resolved but I guess not.
[21:39] <NeedSomeHelp> Hello, which of these two monitors would you keep? Samsung SyncMaster 2343NW or BENQ G2420HDBE
[21:39] <frib> my bluetooth can pair devices but can't connect to them after pairing.  Anyone know how to troubleshoot this?  thanks
[21:40] <lplant911> hello
[21:40] <countingdaisies> I'm techie enuf to do some stuff on the command line and whatnot, but I get stumped by some of the vocabulary used sometimes.
[21:40] <genii> NeedSomeHelp: That's probably a better question for #hardware than here, it's not really an Ubuntu support question
[21:41] <dorkmafia> the instructions there don't tell me if i should format it as mbr or guid partition map
[21:41] <lplant911> okay hello im new to ubuntu
[21:41] <whatnow> darkmafia: if you need to redownload ubuntu on usb, try https://etcher.io/
[21:41] <k1l> countingdaisies: yes, the ms font package on ubunut is broken
[21:41] <whatnow> dorkmafia, it doesn't matter what format, since your going to overwrite the whole drive anyway
[21:41] <k1l> dorkmafia: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-macos
[21:42] <akik> dorkmafia: i think osx includes dd which you can use
[21:42] <countingdaisies> k1l: What are people doing about it (to deal with it I mean)? Any news? Someone mentioned upgrading to a newer installer but I ost the link
[21:43] <k1l> countingdaisies: "wget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/m/msttcorefonts/ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.6_all.deb -P ~/Downloads"  and then "sudo apt install ~/Downloads/ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.6_all.deb"
[21:43] <dorkmafia> ok
[21:43] <countingdaisies> k1l: straightforward. ty
[21:44] <k1l> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/1543280   this is the bug, and i dont know why it doesnt get fixed
[21:47] <SFS_> Hi everyone
[21:47] <countingdaisies> Works - yay!
[21:48] <nacc> countingdaisies: k1l: were you upgrading to 16.04? fresh install? etc? trying to follow up with the developer(s) working on it
[21:48] <nullsign> why is debsig-verify disabled?
[21:49] <nullsign> by default? how does one ensure that every package installed has a valid signature prior to install?
[21:49] <nullsign> i dont understand the thinking there...
[21:49] <k1l> nacc: seems like the package needs to load stuff from sourceforge and the pacakge on 16.04 and 16.10 errors out then. the debian package i linked is fixed to do that properly.
[21:50] <nacc> k1l: the underlying bug, aiui, is in update-notifier, not in those pacakges
[21:50] <countingdaisies> nacc: I don't know why it started but I noted the error simply emerged one day when doing updates. A lot of system information was collected and posted last night that I can give you the links to if you want. It would show a more technical information.
[21:50] <nacc> countingdaisies: no that's ok (or if you want point me to any bug you filed) -- so this was an already installed 16.04? did you already hve the fonts package installed?
[21:51] <countingdaisies> nacc: yes an already installed from a fresh install not an upgrade. There is at least one bug report but I haven't participated in it yet.
[21:52] <frib> minimec, in case you're interested, I was able to connect to BT devices by using pactl load-module module-bluez5-discover and bluetoothctl.  unity-control-center still doesn't work!
[21:54] <k1l> nacc: the issue is the sourceforge download to get the fonts, that makes the issue
[21:54] <nacc> k1l: the actual fix is in LP: #1651923, possibly
[21:55] <nacc> k1l: due to spaces in the URL?
[21:55] <nacc> countingdaisies: thanks for the context
[21:55] <nacc> nullsign: by 'disabled' do you mean not installed by default?
[21:56] <nullsign> nacc: essentially, and also it's not recommended per this - "# Do not enable debsig-verify by default; since the distribution is not using
[21:56] <nullsign> # embedded signatures, debsig-verify would reject all packages.
[21:56] <nullsign> "
[21:56] <nullsign> the question is, how does one enable per package signature checking in ubuntu or debian then?
[21:59] <nacc> nullsign: old, but maybe relevant: https://blog.packagecloud.io/eng/2014/10/28/howto-gpg-sign-verify-deb-packages-apt-repositories/
[22:00] <nacc> nullsign: but the problem is, if the archive's pacakges are not embed-signed, then it won't work
[22:15] <hwpplayer1> i have that issue Can't sign Ubuntu code of conduct
[22:16] <hwpplayer1> i added my pgp by reading the encrypted mail
[22:16] <hwpplayer1> http://askubuntu.com/questions/798536/cant-sign-ubuntu-code-of-conduct
[22:17] <lplant911> i am running ubuntu mate on raspberry pi 3 is there anything i should do once i install it?
[22:17] <k1l> lplant911: start using it :)
[22:17] <lplant911> soo no configurations recommended?
[22:18] <k1l> lplant911: that depends on the usecase you want to use with that device. the standard config should be set to the general use
[22:19] <lplant911> ok thanks ;)
[22:21] <hElixxy> can anyone help a poor bonobo connect a windows printer to an ubuntu laptop, please
[22:22] <k1l> hwpplayer1: what is the error message?
[22:23] <hwpplayer1> i'm reading that http://askubuntu.com/questions/771626/gpg-key-created-but-will-not-decrypt
[22:25] <dorkmafia> so when I select "Install Unbuntu" the cpu restarts
[22:33] <dorkmafia> =(
[22:36] <Dinner> Who send me message last
[22:37] <dorkmafia> is there a way to find out what's causing it to just reboot?
[22:38] <lafleurdubien> I cannot start/stop/restart any services on my centos7 box! Somebody please help! :(
[22:39] <k1l> lafleurdubien: ask the centos support then :)
[22:39] <jatt> sure! in #centos !!!!!
[22:40] <tiox> Anyone want to hazard a guess why Conky keeps pissing all over itself? http://pastebin.com/EXGRzZYP
[22:40] <Henning_> I am planning to file an "upgrade-software-version" bug for xkeyboard-config and maybe freetype. But I am confused. xkeyboard-config has the string ubuntu1 at the end of the version string. So it's not automatically imported until DebianImportFreeze. So if I want to get the version bumped to the version that's in debian sid/unstable I have to file a bug with the tag "upgrade-software-version", probably at least two or three weeks be
[22:41] <dorkmafia> can anybody help me with my installation problems?
[22:42] <tiox> dorkmafia: Which problem?
[22:42] <Henning_> dorkmafia: you can probably add some kernel command line parameters, what is your cpu motherboard type? I joined late.
[22:44] <tiox> If you lack words, information usually precedes them anyway. Any output or errors you can share?
[22:44] <Henning_> Freetype has no recent version in sid/unstable is it possible to get 2.7 (released early sep) into zesty somehow or has Debian make the first step?
[22:45] <k1l> Henning_: usually its synced from debian. the general rule is to fix it on debian and then get it to ubuntu
[22:45] <k1l> Henning_: but the guys on #ubuntu-packaging can tell you more
[22:46] <Henning_> k1l: Ok thanks! I'll post my first question into this channel, this should be suited better there.
[22:52] <zyko> Hi :-)
[22:53] <zyko> exit
[22:53] <kDycu> I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction: I have a box that has intermittent sound issues. Every couple of boots the sound completely fails to work at all. If you keep rebooting, eventually it fixes itself.
[22:53] <nacc> Henning_: freetype is at 2.6.3-3 in unstable
[22:54] <kDycu> I don't even really know where I need to start looking/googling about to try and find a fix.
[22:55] <Henning_> Yes and its the same version as zesty iirc, so if I wanted to get the 2.7 (released sep) or 2.7.1 (released dec) I have to first get it into sid if I understood correctly.
[22:56] <tiox> I'm curious why you'd care about Freetype getting an update.
[22:56] <tiox> Henning_
[22:57] <tiox> Just saying; Personally I use infinality and it's been alright.
[22:58] <utophii> hello
[22:58] <utophii> hi
[23:01] <Vader_> Why does not the server by using http://worldwind25.arc.nasa.gov ? When repaired?
[23:02] <k1l> Vader_: sorry, is this ubuntu support related?
[23:04] <kDycu> anyone have any what might be the culprit to my intermittent sound loss?
[23:09] <Henning_> I mainly use tumbleweed on the desktop and there are two home repos, one is freetype with infinality and one is the freetype package from ubuntu. I tested them and personally think the font rendering from Ubuntu is supperior. The thing is I have some segfaults when I change settings in kde, I suspect it's because I downgraded freetype in tumbleweed.
[23:11] <dayron> Hello
[23:11] <Henning_> xkeyboard-config is easier, I need a keyboard layout I send to upstream to properly type and a file server and family computers run (k/x)ubuntu. So it would be convenient to have my layout there.
[23:12] <dayron> I have a problem with my ubuntu 16.04.1
[23:13] <dayron> When placing a usb memory the laptop does not recognize it
[23:13] <dayron> However on the same usb port if you recognize my 1TB external drive
[23:13] <Henning_> Run dmesg after plugging the usb stick in and see if there is a connection in the log.
[23:14] <wafflejock> dayron, can also try lsblk to see if it just didn't mount or the drive doesn't show up
[23:15] <Henning_> wafflejocks lsblk hint is probably better, you should do this before dmesg.
[23:16] <dorkmafia> how come when I select "Install Ubuntu" the computer screen goes black then restarts?
[23:18] <wafflejock> dorkmafia, not sure have you done Try Ubuntu to get into the live environment does that work?
[23:18] <peeenisss> i cannot seem to find any freenode staff that are responding to PM and whenever i join #freenode my connection drops with the message "K-Lined".  any idea what this is, or how to fix?
[23:19] <Henning_> dorkmafia: as i asked before, what cpu/motherboard do you have?
[23:20] <dorkmafia> Henning_: HP z820
[23:20] <kDycu> peeenisss, I'd email the staff. If you're getting a k-lined message, you've been banned for whatever reason
[23:21] <NiceNickname> kDycu: but there was no reason to ban me.  All i did that seemed to set this off initially was use a documented legitimate feature of IRC
[23:21] <NiceNickname> specifically the /notice
[23:21] <NiceNickname> and it triggered whatever is going on here
[23:21] <kDycu> couldn't tell you, but you should email the staff.
[23:22] <Henning_> Have you tried this: http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c03266085
[23:23] <dayron> Henning_,
[23:23] <dayron> I ran the command you gave me and it detects usb memory but in nautilus it is not seen
[23:23] <k1l> NiceNickname: #freenode for freenode issues please
[23:24] <dorkmafia> Henning_: let me double check that setting
[23:24] <NiceNickname> k1l: the issue is, my connection drops within 5 seconds of joining #freenode
[23:24] <NiceNickname> so that's a tough thing to do
[23:24] <Anum1> hi
[23:25] <Anum1> hi
[23:25] <wafflejock> hi Anum1
[23:25] <k1l> NiceNickname: we cant help you on that in here.
[23:26] <NiceNickname> k1l: i just want to know if anyone has any idea which staff are online
[23:26] <Henning_> dayron: this probably means that the device is recognised by the hardware but it is not automatically registered into the system. Usually udev should do that iirc. One dirty solution is to mount the usb stick manually with sudo mount …, maybe someone knows a better solution to fix your (what i assume) udev problem
[23:26] <k1l> NiceNickname: /stats p
[23:27] <NiceNickname> thanks
[23:27] <wafflejock> dayron, try lsblk can pastebin the output, like Henning_ said can probably manually mount it or if it's a problem can try to figure out why it doesn't automatically mount
[23:28] <Anum1> nice nickname waffle jock
[23:28] <NiceNickname> Anum1: hi
[23:29] <Anum1> gtg see ou
[23:29] <Anum1> you
[23:30] <sadpone> hi, anyone have experience in getting an ubuntu usb install to boot on a windows tablet?
[23:30] <dorkmafia> Henning_: I don't see SCU RAID Option ROM Download in my bios device settngs
[23:30] <NiceNickname> sadpone: what tablet?
[23:30] <sadpone> like, i dont wanna install ubuntu on the tablet,
[23:30] <sadpone> tf810c the 11" asus vivotab
[23:30] <NiceNickname> if it is USB charged, you will need to find a solution for providing USB host and charging at the same time
[23:30] <dorkmafia> Henning_: I see mass storage option roms
[23:31] <sadpone> that wont be an issue
[23:31] <NiceNickname> okay
[23:31] <dorkmafia> Henning_: I see PXE Option roms
[23:31] <NiceNickname> just dont try and install an OS on battery
[23:31] <sadpone> im not installing
[23:31] <Henning_> pxe is network boot, this shouldn't be relevant imo
[23:31] <NiceNickname> do you have secure boot turned off?
[23:31] <sadpone> i meant a USB install, like, installed on the usb
[23:32] <NiceNickname> note that turning off secure boot may piss Windows off if bitlocker is turned on
[23:32] <sadpone> im after ubuntu or alternate linux distro that can work with the windows eufi on
[23:32] <NiceNickname> i had a tablet where  if i turned off secure boot, bitlocker lost everything
[23:32] <sadpone> eufi i dont think can be turned off
[23:32] <dorkmafia> maybe it has to do with this "The Intel SATA AHCI BIOS executes when you select RAID+AHCI for the SATA emulation mode. This
[23:32] <dorkmafia> BIOS is only used to support serial-attached optical drives.
[23:32] <dorkmafia> "
[23:33] <positivery> Hi i'm trying to upgrade my open GL from 3.1 to 3.2 how can I go about this please ?
[23:33] <dorkmafia> so for the sata mode I could change it to RAID+AHCI, IDE, AHCI
[23:33] <dorkmafia> but there is no EFI option
[23:33] <dorkmafia> Henning_:
[23:34] <dorkmafia> I don't have anything in raid so I don't mind trying just AHCI
[23:34] <Henning_> dorkmafia: Try AHCI first, that is the most sane setting. If that doesn't help you can try IDE
[23:34] <Bashing-om> !uefi | sadpone
[23:35] <Henning_> dorkmafia: You can also try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters noapic sometimes helped iirc. Sometimes its some gpu setting, I can't remember right now.
[23:36] <sadpone> yeah, the tablet is 32 bit
[23:36] <sadpone> last i checked
[23:36] <kDycu> I was hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction: I have a box that has intermittent sound issues. Every couple of boots the sound completely fails to work at all. If you keep rebooting, eventually it fixes itself. Any advice?
[23:38] <jeffrey_f> Question: 2 internal networks, 2 ISP's (can't change this part for reasons).  How to properly bridge these networks so that Net A uses ISP A and Net B uses ISP B.  This is so that hosts can see each other between networks but only use their own ISP.
[23:38] <wafflejock> kDycu, you follow instructions here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[23:39] <Henning_> kDycu: integrated sound cards?
[23:39] <kDycu> Henning_, yes integrated sound card.
[23:39] <kDycu> wafflejock, I'll look through that now.
[23:39] <wafflejock> kDycu, assuming that doesn't/didn't work would see if you can narrow it down to pulseaudio or alsa but that basically has a command to reinstall/reconfigure it all
[23:40] <sadpone> so, if i install ubuntu 32 bit on a usb, convert it to efi mode, it should then be possible to boot off my tablet
[23:41] <sadpone> i dont know how it differs when running off a usb vs internal
[23:43] <kDycu> wafflejock, the issue is that it sometimes works just by restarting a couple of times. and sometimes the sound doesn't work. I also can't connect this box to the internet to redownload packages
[23:44] <wafflejock> kDycu, would try using speaker-test or aplay to see if alsa is still working or pulseaudio -k to kill pulseaudio (it will autorestart with default settings) to see if that kicks it back to life
[23:44] <wafflejock> kDycu, is it a wired audio connection (like not bluetooth)?
[23:44] <kDycu> wired
[23:45] <wafflejock> yeah not sure then can try the alsa parts, bluetooth can be a problem with the pulseaudio module that handles bluetooth but with wired ones if aplay doesn't work would try to check dmesg after you notice it not working to see if there are errors
[23:45] <wafflejock> kDycu, dmesg | grep EE, usually to just filter out errors
[23:46] <kDycu> wafflejock, what is dmesg? I'm not really a linux user, I just have this one specific use system set up as a backend for uh, a pinball machine
[23:46] <wafflejock> kDycu, dmesg is just for getting system errors basically, can typically tell you when some new hardware came online or some hardware failed you'll get messages in there
[23:46] <wafflejock> !dmesg
[23:47] <kDycu> wafflejock, I will try and get the system into the state where the audio is broken and report back with any errors
[23:47] <wafflejock> kDycu, did you say you were running 16.04?
[23:48] <wafflejock> kDycu, if 16.04 may want to check out journalctl as well for extra system log info https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/journalctl.html, you can run lsb_release -a, if you aren't sure the version
[23:48] <kDycu> wafflejock, I'm running a really specific version of 12.04
[23:49] <wafflejock> ah okay yeah no journalctl then most likely systemd is pretty new in Ubuntu
[23:56] <geridaneda> j