[00:00] <budder> my lubuntu installation failed so i am attempting xubuntu. anyway i can still try out the lxde?
[00:01] <knome> why did the installation fail?
[00:01] <knome> xubuntu and lubuntu use the same core, so it's possible that the xubuntu installation will fail as well
[00:01] <budder> after installation it just said installer has crashed
[00:02] <budder> i'm a first time linux user. i installed ubuntu but found it a little too heavy for my system so now i am attempting these flavors
[00:03] <budder> have to restart
[00:12] <budder> knome: i'm back
[00:12] <budder> it worked
[00:12] <budder> :)
[00:13] <knome> happy to hear
[00:13] <budder> BUT... i think i liked the lxde better :/
[00:14] <knome> you can install the lubuntu desktop experience by running 'sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop' in terminal (note that this does NOT remove the xubuntu-specific packages), then select lxde on login screen
[00:15] <budder> is there a write-up or tutorial on that somewhere?
[00:15] <knome> on what?
[00:16] <budder> installing the lxde
[00:16] <knome> i just told you how to do it
[00:16] <budder> and UNinstalling the xfce
[00:16] <budder> i know but i am new and want to learn what exactly that command does and how it does it. i just want to get a better understanding of everything
[00:17] <knome> the command installs the lubuntu-desktop metapackage and all of its dependencies - namely, lubuntu
[00:18] <bazhang> !metapackage | budder
[00:18] <ubottu> budder: A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[00:18] <bazhang> budder, please have a read of the ubuntu wiki, the ubuntu help pages, and the ubuntu manual
[00:18] <bazhang> !manual | budder
[00:18] <ubottu> budder: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[00:19] <bazhang> !rute | budder
[00:19] <ubottu> budder: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/course/95-799/rute.pdf
[00:20] <budder> bazhang: thank you. believe it or not, i have spent many hours on this recently
[00:20] <budder> reading through the documentation and help forums and wiki
[00:20] <bazhang> budder, there are many links to read and investigate there
[00:21] <budder> you know how in ubuntu you hold super and brings up the shortcut keys? is there an equivalent for xubuntu?
[00:21] <knome> not at the moment
[00:21] <bazhang> budder, 'how things work' is so broad as to be unanswerable on irc
[00:23] <budder> anybody have experience with the cursor jumping?
[00:23] <budder> i am typing and the cursos just jumps around on its own
[00:25] <budder> thnx for the help all
[02:35] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[02:35] <CountryfiedLinux> I notice the window decoration in Software looks a bit off.
[02:35] <CountryfiedLinux> Looks more like I'm using Adwaita in Gnome.
[07:15] <pirx> hi! whats the easiest way to make xfce show which workspace i am on?
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[16:54] <JohanAR> I'm having problems booting Xubuntu 16.10 live usb. It shows some kind of icon at the bottom of the screen for a couple of seconds, then it changes to blinking cursor in top left corner and eventually the monitor turns off
[16:55] <JohanAR> Any ideas? I'm currently running 16.04
[16:56] <JohanAR> I've tried both mkusb and usb-creator-gtk btw.. If I mount the USB it looks like the regular stuff found an a Linux ISO
[17:07] <krytarik> !md5sum | JohanAR
[17:07] <ubottu> JohanAR: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[17:09] <JohanAR> checksum is ok.. but I just noticed that gparted claims the USB stick is 60GB, while it's actually only 16
[17:09] <JohanAR> going to try formatting and using unetbootin
[17:28] <JohanAR> Well, no luck.. This time I got grub when booting from USB, but regardless of which option I chose the monitor just shuts down after a few seconds
[17:33] <JohanAR> Anyone successfully booted Xubuntu 16.10 off USB? If so, which method did you use to put the ISO on the USB?
[17:34] <flocculant> JohanAR: the ridiculous size shown is a bug - can't remember offhand number - you could try changing the boot option to not use quiet splash, that might help narrow down where it hangs - at the human/kbd symbol press any key - then at the next menu F6 - then escape and you will have the cursor on the boot options - backspace and lose quiet splash - then choose try xubuntu (it looks like http://i.imgur.
[17:34] <flocculant> com/5BjhRS2.png )
[17:36] <JohanAR> didn't get that far.. nothing after human/kbd screen.. I have a GTX 970 which I think ought to work without fancy drivers
[17:38] <JohanAR> think I'll take a break from that and try again this weekend when I have more time
[17:39] <krytarik> !nomodeset | JohanAR
[17:39] <ubottu> JohanAR: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter
[17:41] <flocculant> krytarik: looks like gtx970 wants 375.26 but packages.u.c only shows to 367
[17:41] <flocculant> JohanAR: ^^
[17:42] <genii> !info nvidia-current
[17:42] <ubottu> nvidia-current (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-304): Transitional package for nvidia-current. In component restricted, is optional. Version 304.132-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 4 kB, installed size 19 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)
[17:44] <flocculant> https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[17:44] <flocculant> So I would suspect boot with nomodeset - install, reboot - add ppa - get driver
[18:11] <JohanAR> ok, thanks
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[21:01] <xavier11> alguien que me pueda ayudar
[21:01] <xavier11> ayudaaaa
[21:02] <krytarik> !es | xavier11
[21:02] <ubottu> xavier11: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.
[21:02] <xavier11> ok
[21:04] <xavier11> amigo y tu no me puedes ayudar?
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