[00:03] <MrGrymReaper> Specifically the ones for online accounts which were included in 16.10.
[01:15] <inra> hello everyone, I created a live dvd with brasero, and the dvd creation took ages with the progress bar being very slow. I thought the dvd might be corrupted, so I ended the process. but the dvd booted seemingly successfully to desktop, showing disk-install link. can I safely assume that the dvd is properly created and the OS is healthy?
[01:15] <inra> shortly, a live dvd creation process stopped for being very, unusually slow, but the dvd boots and installs. should I assume all is ok?
[01:16] <inra> it was stopped after a while way longer than a live dvd creation process
[05:06] <luis_> Hello
[05:07] <luis_> Anyone know how to sync Google calendar with the pop calendar
[05:07] <luis_> pop up**?
[05:21] <himcesjf> pop-up calendar?
[05:22] <himcesjf> luis_: Please elbaorate
[05:22] <himcesjf> elaborate*
[05:26] <luis_> himcesjf: The calendar on the desktop by the clock
[05:26] <luis_> I want it to display my google events
[05:32] <luis_> himcesjf: I think I found a article on this https://blog.natenom.com/2016/09/how-to-configure-the-clockcalendar-widget-of-kdeplasma-to-display-pim-events/
[05:33] <himcesjf> luis_: Oh hey, sorry I got caught up. Have you tried KOrganiser?
[05:34] <himcesjf> luis_: I think syncking KOrganiser with Google Calendar and then configuring clock widgets to show events works
[05:34] <luis_> Yes, KOrganiser is sync
[05:35] <luis_> I just don't know how to show it on the widget
[05:35] <luis_> himcesjf:
[05:36] <himcesjf> Hmm
[05:36] <himcesjf> Checking
[05:38] <himcesjf> Yeah, it changed. I cannot see Show events option. Nor is there any PIM Events plugin in widget
[05:39] <luis_> himcesjf: That's not cool. This is so easy on Gnome
[05:40] <luis_> Atleast I can see holidays now
[05:40] <luis_> lol
[05:41] <himcesjf> Yeah, you can set Holidays and Timezone with Digital Clock Settings
[05:41] <luis_> himcesjf: bummer
[05:41] <himcesjf> But "Show evnts" option is missing. That used to work for me
[05:43] <luis_> himcesjf: I don't know what to say. I made the switch from Gnome about 2 weeks ago. I still haven't setup my desktop the way I want.
[05:45] <luis_> himcesjf: Can you connect to facebook with the instant message app?
[05:45] <luis_> lol
[05:46] <luis_> So far I can only use it for Hangout
[08:41] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> Hi.. anybody knows how setup multichannel sound output with KDE sound setup ? I'm using HDMI port for sound. and it works, but send only 2 channels.
[08:48] <Smurphy> IrcsomeBot1: Tell it to use Passthrough ?
[08:49] <Smurphy> works while watching a movie. Thing is, most audio sources are only stereo. Hence no 5.1 etc.
[08:49] <lordievader> I wonder what 'pactl info' says about it.
[08:51] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> Yes I know it depends from source. But I use movie with multichannel soundtrack. I can see it in VLC. but my HDMI sound device still says '2ch'
[08:51] <Smurphy> what's the capability of your HDMI device? Is it a TV ?
[08:52] <Smurphy> andwhich software you use?
[08:52] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> In speakers                [0x5f] FL/FR LFE FC RL/RR RC RLC/RRC
[08:54] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> I'm using VLC player. in sound setting I enabled Dolby multichannel output.
[08:54] <Smurphy> did you also chose the correct audio-stream to be played back?
[08:54] <Smurphy> in VLC
[08:54] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> Of course
[08:55] <Smurphy> Then it should work. Having that kind of setup here too.
[08:55] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> And this is weird why it's not.
[08:56] <Smurphy> I howwver left all configuration (audio) in VLC to its defaults.
[08:56] <Smurphy> Didn't change anything. Detected it automatically.
[08:56] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> I'm suspecting that because KDE cant understand my hardware setup correctly.
[08:57] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> This is multichanned headphones. they cut between montior, but monitor has only 2 channels support.
[08:57] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> I belive KDE not upldate the setup then I'm usign only headphones
[08:57] <Smurphy> Did you connect the HeadSet to the Monitor?
[08:58] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> kinda. itls like laptop->heaphones->monitor
[08:58] <Smurphy> Using HDMI?
[08:58] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> yes
[08:58] <Smurphy> The headphone has a HDMO connector?
[08:58] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> Of course
[08:59] <Smurphy> Weird. Never saw that. But Ok.
[08:59] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> Headphones has basestation which actually HDMI switch
[08:59] <Smurphy> IMHO the Screen does not forward the audio-data-configuration correctly.
[08:59] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> 4 hdmi inputs and HDMI output
[08:59] <Smurphy> or config.
[09:00] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> Yes firstly problem was that ELD was from monitor
[09:00] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> But in base station setup I disable sound passthroug and now I have ELD from base station for sound
[09:01] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> Eveything works but only 2 ch.
[09:02] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> May be only developers can help with this.
[09:02] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> Because I agree this is not regular case. then ELD setup updated 'on_fly'
[09:06] <Smurphy> indeed.
[11:27] <BluesKaj> Morning folks
[11:29] <diogenes_> Morning
[12:53] <himcesjf> BluesKaj: You around?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> himcesjf, yup
[13:45] <himcesjf> BluesKaj: I added KDE Neon repo following instructions on this page - https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=309&t=135278 - on my Kubuntu running 16.10
[13:47] <himcesjf> BluesKaj: It's returning some issues - http://paste.ubuntu.com/23792242/
[13:48] <himcesjf> BluesKaj: and -
[13:48] <himcesjf> W: The repository 'http://archive.neon.kde.org/user yakkety Release' does not have a Release file.
[13:48] <himcesjf> E: Failed to fetch http://archive.neon.kde.org/user/dists/yakkety/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[13:48] <himcesjf> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[13:51] <BluesKaj> himcesjf, that's a normal condition for up to date packages or packages not applicable to you OS version
[13:53] <himcesjf> BluesKaj: I removed backports PPA and added neon repo, wondering if that's a good step
[13:53] <BluesKaj> himcesjf, I suggest you ask in #kde-neon
[13:56] <BluesKaj> it's not a good practice to leave ppas active after using them the first time until there are more packages to upgrade during the OSs development
 @himcesjf, Neon does not build packages for Yakkety. And Neon on top of kubuntu is NOT supported
[14:15] <himcesjf> acheronuk:  ah, okay
[14:15] <himcesjf> acheronuk: So it's better to have only Kubuntu backports
[14:18] <himcesjf> acheronuk: Cool, so IrcsomeBot1 is a Telegram bot
 Telegram bot that bridges between our telegram chat channel and this IRC one.
[14:19] <acheronuk> you can talk on her via either :)
[14:20] <acheronuk> *on here
[14:23] <himcesjf> How can I join Telegram chat cahnnel? acheronuk
[14:23] <himcesjf> channel*
[14:24] <acheronuk> https://t.me/kubuntu_support
[14:25] <IrcsomeBot1> Himanshu was added by: Himanshu
 Cool
 @Himanshu, Indeed :)
[15:24] <francish> Hi all, my plasmashell is eating a lot of CPU, any of you affected as well ?
 Yes, facing that issue on the lines of polling. Filed bug report but no help
[15:37] <himcesjf> francish: Often times I had to kquitapp5 plasmashell in order to work through GUI
[15:37] <himcesjf> francish: Are you on laptop or dekstop?
[15:43] <himcesjf> francish: Asking because I noticed another weird problem when running on AC on laptop, it lags often on AC. When I unplug the adaptor, it works smoothly on battery
[15:44] <javi_> hi, I'm trying to create a telegram online account from system settings but I get an error saying that I need a connection manager named 'morse', how can I install it?
[15:47] <IrcsomeBot1> <Maksim Muruev> @francish, since kde 4. Seems like this everlasting problem. Then this bug will disappear then KDE team start Plasma 6 )
[18:45] <momken> Hello
[18:46] <momken> Is any maintainer of kubuntu-ppa-backports here?
[18:47] <momken> I want to report a bug in a package in kubuntu backports
[18:47] <sintre> is this a problem with some fontas not installing?
[18:47] <momken> sintre: Hello
[18:47] <BluesKaj> momken, check with #kubuntu-devel
[18:47] <momken> BluesKaj: ok, thanks
[18:47] <sintre> i upgraded yesterday and still get this notification once booted that it can't download some font data pack
[18:48] <sintre> hoping they'll work it out
[18:48] <BluesKaj> sintre, ignore that
[18:49] <sintre> doesn't give me option
[18:49] <sintre> say try again or close
[18:49] <sintre> on reboot same msg keeps poping up
[18:49] <momken> sintre: Actually kubuntu-backports updates the "PackageKit" package to v1.1.1 which is very good but not enough. The latest version (sept 2016) contains a bug fix for APTcc which makes PackageKit to work more like apt in deb-based distros
[18:50] <BluesKaj> momken, if you get a crash/bug then open dolphin>Help>report bug and follow the instructions
[18:50] <momken> Currently the command "pkcon install texlive" doesn't install all the packages as "apt install texlive" becaues currently pkcon doesn't install recommended packages
[18:52] <momken> BluesKaj: hmm. But I couldn't find PackageKit in the bug-report page
[18:53] <momken> Actually packagekit is not part of KDE itself. But its newer version is included in kubuntu-backports
[18:53] <momken> The version in ubuntu 16.04 repo is too old to be reported
[19:17] <speeder> so
[19:17] <speeder> people here told me to fix the laptop that suddenly stopped booting by updating Kubuntu
[19:18] <speeder> but I can't figure how to do that sources.list file as the EOL page says
[19:18] <speeder> I went ot the URL, and seemly it doesn't have vivid sources there.
[19:46] <Fritigern> speeder: use a xenial list instead. Vivid is no longer supported. I would suggest this one: https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/txt/xenial/sources_474fe0d6168d1dbe243636db2fc56229576dca27.txt
[19:46] <speeder> ?
[19:46] <speeder> Fritigern: I thought I was supposed to put on the sources.list the version I already have, no?
[19:52] <Fritigern> No, if you want to update to a new version, then you should use the sources.list from the target version so it actually has something to update with
[19:58] <speeder> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/ <<< then why this page says to use this? deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ CODENAME main restricted universe multiverse
[19:58] <speeder> if I had to add the current release, it wouldn't be outside "old-releases" by definition?
[21:09] <zeLMGN> Hey!
[21:09] <zeLMGN> When ever I boot my USB stick (the latest lts X64 created using Rufus in Iso mode) every thing seems fine until the screen starts Flickering, I try to install the OS,but after a while the Flickering pattern changes to few seconds black, split second on,then the laptop reboots. I'm using a MSI GP722qe laptop.
[21:10] <sintre> do you get into a live enviroment?
[21:11] <zeLMGN> I can yes.
[21:11] <zeLMGN> But it's only usable for a few minutes
[21:11] <zeLMGN> and the screen flickers for some reason
[21:12] <sintre> ok well , to check stuff off i'd download the iso again , and also use a different usb creator
[21:12] <sintre> depending on os unetbootin may help
[21:12] <genii> Disable acpi
[21:12] <zeLMGN> Let me grab my laptop and live usb
[21:13] <sintre> https://unetbootin.github.io/
[21:13] <zeLMGN> unetbootin was one of the first thing i tried
[21:13] <zeLMGN> but there was an issue
[21:13] <sintre> what was that?
[21:13] <zeLMGN> i think it wasn't actually copying the files
[21:13] <genii> zeLMGN: Try appending acpi=off to the kernel line before it loads and see if any different.
[21:14] <sintre> ok well first off create new stick , make sure before the stick is msdos  partion table and fat 32
[21:14] <sintre> even though it will isntall info for uefi
[21:14] <zeLMGN> @genii is there a file on the root of the disk or is there a folder?
[21:14] <sintre> will boot install needs it to boot
[21:14] <genii> I had another MSI recently with same flickering issue, the acpi=off helped get it going
[21:15] <zeLMGN> genii , is there a file on the disk i need to modify?
[21:15] <sintre> bios is where you need to go
[21:16] <zeLMGN> my laptop is set to legacy not uefi.
[21:16] <genii> zeLMGN: No, just F6 for "Other Options" and add it to the end
[21:16] <sintre> zel>  good when it tries to ask if you want to continue in eufi mode say no then continue on with install
[21:17] <zeLMGN> and it's deciding to  boot from the windows partition
[21:17] <sintre> i think gennii has better handle on it as i don't have a msi mobo
[21:17] <zeLMGN> Ah
[21:17] <zeLMGN> I pressed F6
[21:17] <zeLMGN> and a menu has popped up
[21:17] <zeLMGN> Start kubuntu check disk test memory and boot from disk
[21:17] <zeLMGN> but in the bottom right
[21:18] <zeLMGN> expert mode
[21:18] <zeLMGN> acpi=off noapic nolapic edd=on nodmraid nomodeset freesoftware only
[21:18] <genii> zeLMGN: So acpi=off is already there?
[21:18] <zeLMGN> Mhmm
[21:18] <sintre> well hmm
[21:19] <sintre> how much ram doyu have
[21:19] <sintre> you have sry
[21:19] <zeLMGN> 8gb
[21:19] <sintre> ok then amd64 is fine
[21:19] <sintre> hmm again
[21:19] <sintre> two sticks or one?
[21:20] <zeLMGN> I don't  know
[21:20] <sintre> what config is it running in
[21:20] <zeLMGN> I'll boot into windows and it'll tell me
[21:20] <sintre> ok do that
[21:20] <sintre> i came across this before with somebody with an odd ram set up
[21:21] <zeLMGN> my laptop is stock really
[21:21] <zeLMGN> i haven't modified it
[21:21] <genii> zeLMGN: Might want to also look at https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2284315
[21:21] <genii> Seems that model has some weird issues with Ubuntu, like the SSD and Intel speedStep
[21:22] <zeLMGN> It worked fine with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[21:22] <sintre> ok so you want the 16.10
[21:22] <zeLMGN> It's a 1 gig stick
[21:22] <sintre> ok here may be a plan
[21:22] <zeLMGN> It's 1 x 8gb stick**
[21:22] <sintre> ok here is a plan
[21:23] <sintre> do clean install of 1604
[21:23] <zeLMGN> Ubuntu?
[21:23] <sintre> then upgrade to 16.10 once stable
[21:23] <sintre> kubuntu
[21:23] <zeLMGN> Oh
[21:23] <zeLMGN> I'm an idiot
[21:23] <sintre> isn't that what your here for
[21:23] <zeLMGN> Wait
[21:23] <zeLMGN> Yes
[21:23] <zeLMGN> I belive I have the latest LTS on my stick
[21:24] <zeLMGN> 16.10
[21:24] <zeLMGN> it says on the disk label
[21:24] <sintre> redownload the iso and wipe the stick and start over
[21:25] <sintre> use 16.04
[21:25] <sintre> then once installed we can upgrade the distro from terminal
[21:25] <zeLMGN> I have pretty fast internet so it shouldn't take long to download
[21:25] <sintre> best work around i can think of at the moment
[21:26] <zeLMGN> Ah
[21:26] <zeLMGN> Download complete
[21:27] <sintre> wipe the stick and make sure its file table is ms/dos
[21:27] <sintre> then fat 32 partiton
[21:27] <zeLMGN> are these settings fine?
[21:27] <zeLMGN> http://sx.thelmgn.com/2017/01/rufus-2.11_2017-01-13_21-27-35.png
[21:27] <genii> The images are all hybrid now, you can just use dd to usb
[21:28] <sintre> thtd 16.10 again
[21:28] <sintre> thats
[21:28] <sintre> in your picture
[21:28] <zeLMGN> I haven't wiped the disk yet
[21:28] <zeLMGN> That's just the device label
[21:29] <zeLMGN> Yeah
[21:29] <zeLMGN> I gave it the LTS iso and it changed the label to Kubuntu 16.04.1 LTS amd64
[21:29] <sintre> k go ahead
[21:29] <sintre> shouldn't take long
[21:29] <zeLMGN> DD or ISO?
[21:30] <sintre> your choice
[21:30] <zeLMGN> let me get my lapto charger
[21:30] <zeLMGN> It recommends ISO so I'll use that
[21:30] <sintre> yes
[21:30] <sintre> might as well use your program
[21:30] <sintre> gennii was just mentioning you can copy directly froma  terminal window if you want
[21:31] <zeLMGN> I'm on Windows so that's not a possibility
[21:31] <sintre> yea np
[21:31] <genii> There's Windows equivelents of dd
[21:31] <zeLMGN> Eh. I like rufus. It's quite fast and easy
[21:32] <sintre> well lets see if this 1604 is stable
[21:33] <genii> It used to be because the images were iso9660 only they needed special conversion magic to put on usb, but thats not the case since about 14.04
[21:33] <zeLMGN> Oh like the imgs?
[21:34] <zeLMGN> I'm sorry if that sounds dumb.
[21:34] <sintre> no apology needd
[21:34] <sintre> we want to see you up and running :)
[21:34] <zeLMGN> :)
[21:35] <zeLMGN> USB Stick done
[21:36] <sintre> k lets try this one out
[21:37] <zeLMGN> As I was taking the USB stick out I accedentally pressed the power button on my desktop
[21:37] <zeLMGN> I'm at the deskto
[21:37] <zeLMGN> p
[21:37] <sintre> wb
[21:37] <zeLMGN> No flickering!
[21:37] <zeLMGN> Huzzah!
[21:37] <sintre> ok good
[21:38] <sintre> now lets install
[21:38] <sintre> btw do you want a duel boot
[21:38] <zeLMGN> Mhmm
[21:38] <zeLMGN> I
[21:38] <sintre> or kubuntu only
[21:38] <zeLMGN> My disk has been partitioned with my 750GB Windows partition
[21:38] <zeLMGN> and a 250gb blank partition
[21:39] <sintre> ok then you go space cleared up
[21:39] <zeLMGN> Should I click download updates while installing?
[21:39] <sintre> i would decide partitoon space
[21:39] <sintre> no
[21:39] <sintre> just click third party extras
[21:39] <sintre> we'll do update after
[21:40] <zeLMGN> And it's got the blue/orange spinny thing
[21:40] <sintre> hmm , been a week sinse i went thru an install
[21:40] <sintre> hope that aint bad lol
[21:40] <zeLMGN> Manual?
[21:40] <zeLMGN> for the install type
[21:41] <sintre> k hold up
[21:41] <sintre> so do you want the 250 for kubuntu and leave 750 for windows?
[21:41] <zeLMGN> Mhmm
[21:41] <sintre> is so let it auto magic and install side by side
[21:41] <sintre> or you gotta figure out what type of partion scheme you want
[21:42] <zeLMGN> The 250gb parition is already formatted to ext 3 or 4 i belive
[21:42] <sintre> you can change it later with some aprtioning tools but often easier up front
[21:42] <sintre> ok if not sure , use kde partion magic
[21:42] <sintre> i mean kdge partion program
[21:42] <sintre> bla , and make sure its ext4
[21:43] <sintre> instaler should do this by itself , but i had some odd snauooes with it messing up
[21:43] <sintre> probally my hardware but just to be safe
[21:43] <sintre> actually i would delete that partion entirely
[21:44] <sintre> leaving it unallocated seems to work just as well
[21:45] <zeLMGN> Gimme a moment
[21:46] <zeLMGN> I got a screenshot
[21:46] <zeLMGN> https://imgur.com/tEA7xOG
[21:46] <sintre> guided use free space
[21:48] <zeLMGN> https://imgur.com/V7gEUG2
[21:48] <zeLMGN> that's my partition thingy
[21:48] <sintre> pull the trigger
[21:48] <sintre> plenty of space for both :)
[21:48] <zeLMGN> Wait
[21:49] <zeLMGN> How do I trash the Ubuntu
[21:49] <zeLMGN> It want's to keep both
[21:49] <zeLMGN> and the ubuntu install is kinda broken
[21:49] <sintre> delete that partion it was on as well
[21:49] <zeLMGN> So I have 250gb of blank unformatted space
[21:50] <sintre> this might not work exactly , but best thing i can think of
[21:50] <zeLMGN> Huh? I clicked trash in Manual
[21:50] <zeLMGN> and it canceled it
[21:50] <sintre> hmm probally because its using its swap file
[21:51] <sintre> so you had ubuntu on here duel before?
[21:51] <zeLMGN> Should I delete it using the partition manager?
[21:51] <zeLMGN> I did.
[21:51] <zeLMGN> But I installed Windows which disabled booting to ubuntu
[21:51] <sintre> ok if the partion is gone we can cross are fingers that the installer will over write its mbr
[21:52] <sintre> if not and you want duel boot you might need to prepare for a win instlall as well
[21:52] <zeLMGN> I deleted the partition in the KDE Partition Manager
[21:52] <zeLMGN> I don't care.
[21:52] <zeLMGN> It's a pretty much clean Windows install
[21:52] <zeLMGN> all there is on it is some apps that I installed using Ninite
[21:53] <sintre> well win normally needs to come before ubunut/kubuntu for duel boot to work
[21:53] <zeLMGN> Now
[21:53] <sintre> as win10 take over the eufi or mbr
[21:53] <zeLMGN> I can only wipe the disk.
[21:53] <zeLMGN> It's Windows 8.1
[21:53] <sintre> i'd just proceed with install if all that space if unallocated
[21:53] <zeLMGN> I only have the option to wipe the disk and manual now
[21:53] <sintre> wlel if you don't care i'd say fk it and wipe it
[21:54] <sintre> but thats me
[21:54] <zeLMGN> I still want to keep Windows.
[21:54] <sintre> ok back out of installer for a second
[21:55] <sintre> if you can throw up a screen of your partion using kde manager
[21:55] <sintre> would be helpfull as it is now
[21:56] <zeLMGN> https://imgur.com/qv3RnpM
[21:57] <sintre> restart installer and see if it forces you to wipe or manual again
[21:58] <zeLMGN> Only wipe and manual
[21:58] <sintre> http://askubuntu.com/questions/343268/how-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation
[21:59] <zeLMGN> Should I just create a 250gb partition from the blank space
[21:59] <zeLMGN> Format it as EXT4
[21:59] <zeLMGN> and mount it as /?
[21:59] <sintre> see if that works
[22:00] <sintre> yea turn it into ext4
[22:00] <sintre> and restart installer
[22:00] <zeLMGN> I did it in manual installer mode
[22:00] <sintre> ok
[22:00] <zeLMGN> Just click Install
[22:01] <sintre> if its going to that partion
[22:01] <zeLMGN> it's nagging about Swap.
[22:01] <zeLMGN> i don't have 2.3mb of ram
[22:01] <zeLMGN> it's gonna be fine
[22:01] <zeLMGN> now it's asking if i'm sure
[22:01] <zeLMGN> Now it's asking where i am
[22:01] <sintre> up to you :)
[22:01] <sintre> ok its running
[22:01] <zeLMGN> and it's copying
[22:02] <sintre> just follow steps
[22:02] <sintre> thank god that worked
[22:02] <zeLMGN> Uk please
[22:02] <sintre> hopefully this is hardest part
[22:02] <zeLMGN> UK keyboard please
[22:02] <zeLMGN> thanks
[22:02] <sintre> but once in installed we gotta cross our fingers it write to bootloader coreectly
[22:02] <sintre> so you can duel boot
[22:02] <zeLMGN> I've done the setup username/password thing
[22:02] <zeLMGN> and it's almost done
[22:03] <zeLMGN> this is why you use USB 3 memory sticks
[22:03] <sintre> i got to i love em
[22:03] <zeLMGN> oh god it's doing that language pack
[22:04] <zeLMGN> I was watching an ubuntu installed
[22:04] <zeLMGN> And it installed all the language packs
[22:04] <zeLMGN> then uninstalled everyone exept english
[22:04] <sintre> as long as you didn't decide to download updates while install you'll be fine
[22:04] <zeLMGN> I didn't
[22:04] <sintre> i don't think it matters with the space you have
[22:05] <zeLMGN> now it's removing stuff
[22:05] <sintre> when it done reboot and you should come to a grub loader
[22:05] <sintre> thats normal
[22:05] <sintre> test and try to boot into windows
[22:05] <sintre> it will be an option you have to manuall with arrow key go down to you'll have 10 second sor so
[22:06] <sintre> or it should autoboot into kubuntu
[22:07] <zeLMGN> It's done
[22:07] <sintre> k reboot
[22:08] <sintre> and test windows first
[22:08] <zeLMGN> wat
[22:08] <zeLMGN> i pressed shutdown
[22:08] <zeLMGN> and partition manager popped up
[22:08] <zeLMGN> it's shut down now
[22:09] <sintre> odd see what happens when it boots
[22:09] <zeLMGN> I get a GRUB menu
[22:09] <sintre> scroll to windows
[22:09] <zeLMGN> With Ubuntu memory test and windows
[22:09] <sintre> test windows
[22:09] <zeLMGN> I accedentally booted to memtest86
[22:09] <zeLMGN> woops
[22:10] <sintre> lol
[22:10] <zeLMGN> I keep pressing the right arrow instaid of down
[22:10] <sintre> if i had a dollar for everytime i hit the wrong button lol
[22:10] <zeLMGN> lmao
[22:11] <zeLMGN> Windows booted
[22:11] <sintre> whoot
[22:11] <zeLMGN> but with no windows logo and spinny thing
[22:11] <sintre> k close down again and go to kubuntu
[22:11] <sintre> hopefulyl hard part is over
[22:11] <zeLMGN> The windows shutdown is slow compared to Linux.
[22:11] <sintre> yea it wants to save itself a session i believe
[22:12] <zeLMGN> I chose Ubuntu in the grub menu
[22:12] <zeLMGN> and Kubuntu is doing the glowy thing
[22:12] <sintre> yep
[22:12] <sintre> good  now check to make sure your online
[22:12] <zeLMGN> And the logon screen
[22:12] <sintre> k log on, you remember your password i hope we'll need it to update
[22:13]  * genii makes more coffee and passes the mugs around
[22:13] <zeLMGN> how would i have logged on?
[22:13] <zeLMGN> And the desktop
[22:13] <zeLMGN> And it seems to be connected to the internet
[22:13] <sintre> k go to k at bottom left
[22:13] <zeLMGN> 233 packages to update
[22:13] <zeLMGN> lmao
[22:13] <zeLMGN> it's almost as bad as Windows.
[22:13] <sintre> ok go to terminal and type sudo apt update
[22:13] <sintre> not as bad
[22:14] <sintre> sinse you want to upgrade distro we won't bother with backports now
[22:14] <zeLMGN> It's doing stuff.
[22:14] <zeLMGN> 233 packages can be upgraded. RUn apt list --upgradable to see them
[22:14] <sintre> once done type sudo apt full-upgrade
[22:14] <sintre> this will take some time :)
[22:14] <zeLMGN> press y
[22:15] <sintre> y
[22:15] <zeLMGN> It seems to be connecting to some GB cdn of Ubuntu updates
[22:16] <zeLMGN> Or that's just how it is
[22:16] <sintre> yea let it do its thing
[22:16] <zeLMGN> and not a GB CDN
[22:16] <sintre> after this is done we'll upgrade entire distro to 16.10 if you want
[22:16] <sintre> if its running its working
[22:16] <sintre> :)
[22:16] <sintre> i'll be around gonna go start dinner
[22:16] <zeLMGN> it's 10:16pm here
[22:17] <zeLMGN> oh god
[22:17] <sintre> florida usa here
[22:17] <zeLMGN> the wifi up here is terrible
[22:17] <zeLMGN> only 20mb down
[22:17] <zeLMGN> i get 250 on my desktop with ethernet
[22:18] <sintre> well when you go for full distro upgrade got an extra ethernet cable you can hook directly to klaptop?
[22:18] <zeLMGN> No.
[22:18] <zeLMGN> I'd have to try and swich over to my wifi card on my desktop
[22:18] <sintre> well won't be to terrible , if you can gget your laptop close the router
[22:19] <sintre> i hope  :)
[22:19] <zeLMGN> Wait
[22:19] <sintre> ?
[22:20] <zeLMGN> it seems to have done the downloads
[22:20] <zeLMGN> It's just unpacking
[22:20] <sintre> ok reboot
[22:20] <sintre> no
[22:20] <sintre> don't till its done
[22:20] <zeLMGN> yeah
[22:20] <zeLMGN> that'd be a good idea
[22:20] <zeLMGN> :P
[22:20] <sintre> lol man your scaring me sometimes
[22:20] <sintre> :)
[22:22] <zeLMGN> the wierd thing is
[22:22] <zeLMGN> my wifi card on my desktop
[22:23] <zeLMGN> still gets a signal when the antenna is unplugged
[22:23] <sintre> well once updated hopefully drivers installed might help get better wifi
[22:23] <sintre> or is it like that in windows as well
[22:24] <zeLMGN> Something has crashed.
[22:24] <zeLMGN> ./usr/bin/kactivitymanagerd
[22:24] <sintre> pay no attention if terminal still working
[22:25] <sintre> this aint a good sign but i've had crashes when updating and it turned out ok
[22:25] <zeLMGN> and for some reason
[22:25] <zeLMGN> on the error dialog
[22:25] <zeLMGN> the x is out of the window
[22:25] <zeLMGN> so i had to resize it
[22:25] <sintre> ok is the terminal still working?
[22:25] <zeLMGN> It seems to have done
[22:25] <sintre> if you have a prompt then it should be done
[22:25] <zeLMGN> it's back to the lmgn@kubuntublade:~$ thing
[22:26] <sintre> ok reboot
[22:26] <sintre> back into kubuntu
[22:26] <zeLMGN> i accedentally typed sodo reboot
[22:26] <zeLMGN> :P
[22:27] <zeLMGN> It's logging me in
[22:27] <sintre> k to make things a bit faster to find
[22:27] <zeLMGN> and theres no longer a red shield in the bottom right
[22:28] <sintre> right click on the little k at bot left
[22:28] <sintre> and click alternatives
[22:28] <sintre> then to menu view
[22:28] <zeLMGN> where
[22:28] <zeLMGN> oh
[22:28] <zeLMGN> i see
[22:28] <sintre> so i can navigate you somewhere easier
[22:28] <zeLMGN> yeah
[22:28] <zeLMGN> i just wish i could press the start button
[22:29] <sintre> go to settings
[22:29] <zeLMGN> mhmm
[22:29] <sintre> then software and updates
[22:29] <sintre> should be a tab that says updates
[22:29] <zeLMGN> Don't see it
[22:29] <zeLMGN> Just input method OpenJDK System Settings
[22:30] <sintre> forgot the command on second let me lok for it
[22:33] <francish> himcesjf, IrcsomeBot1, I'm sorry I had to leave and couldn't answer your messages. Thanks for your answers !!
[22:34] <sintre> basicly looking for this gui thing we have to change a setting
[22:34] <sintre> so you can download newest distro
[22:35] <francish> I experience as well this plasmashell CPU issue since KDE4 and still no solution. I have a laptop and it seems not be affected by this bug, even in main PS mode
[22:35] <zeLMGN> I found a thing called update manager
[22:35] <zeLMGN> It says it's upto date
[22:35] <zeLMGN> Theres a more menu
[22:35] <zeLMGN> that has a advanced tab
[22:36] <zeLMGN> that has Configure software sources
[22:36] <sintre> sudo software-properties-kde
[22:36] <sintre> then update tab
[22:36] <sintre> then at bottom
[22:36] <sintre> where it says notify me of new ubuntu release from drop down menu select
[22:36] <zeLMGN> go to normal releases
[22:36] <sintre> for any new version
[22:37] <zeLMGN> I have Kubuntu Updates
[22:37] <zeLMGN> Automatic Updates
[22:37] <sintre> now time to get to upgrading distro
[22:37] <zeLMGN> and Release update
[22:37] <sintre> normall release fine
[22:38] <sintre> after thats select close out
[22:38] <sintre> now distro upgrade time
[22:38] <sintre> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:39] <sintre> sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:39] <sintre> and wait again
[22:40] <zeLMGN> It's Doing Stuff™
[22:40] <sintre> yea its like to do stuff :)
[22:41] <sintre> and after we get to do another upgrade lol
[22:41] <sintre> then our kubuntu installation journey is over hopefully
[22:41] <zeLMGN> can I resize desktop wigets?
[22:41] <sintre> don't use any probally a question for somebody else
[22:41] <sintre> that does
[22:49] <zeLMGN> found it
[22:49] <zeLMGN> click and hold
[22:49] <sintre> cool
[22:49] <sintre> i'll remember that
[22:49] <zeLMGN> thanks ask ubuntu
[22:50] <sintre> i have thrree thing sobn my desktop
[22:50] <sintre> web browser email and a link to open hom folder
[22:50] <sintre> i ckinda like mine plane
[22:50] <sintre> :)
[22:50] <zeLMGN> on my desktop which runs windows
[22:50] <zeLMGN> i have an app called fences
[22:51] <zeLMGN> which allows me to let things to fold up into bars
[22:51] <zeLMGN> The system just reboote
[22:51] <zeLMGN> d
[22:51] <zeLMGN> I don't know if it finished properly
[22:51] <sintre> guess we'll find out
[22:52] <zeLMGN> it crashed
[22:52] <zeLMGN> machine check exception
[22:52] <zeLMGN> rebooting in 30 seconds
[22:52] <zeLMGN> and the caps lock was blinking
[22:52] <zeLMGN> that's cool if you don't have your monitor on
[22:52] <sintre> no clue on this one
[22:53] <sintre> lets hope it survived
[22:53] <zeLMGN> the system seems to be ok
[22:53] <sintre> at a desktop?
[22:53] <zeLMGN> yeah
[22:53] <zeLMGN> the updates may of not been installed
[22:53] <zeLMGN> Oh god
[22:53] <zeLMGN> there's a nother red shield
[22:53] <zeLMGN> 757 updates
[22:54] <sintre> i know hold up
[22:54] <sintre> i need ypou to look at something for me
[22:54] <sintre> system then info center
[22:54] <sintre> what verion of kubuntu does it say you have now
[22:54] <zeLMGN> 16.10
[22:54] <zeLMGN> woot
[22:54] <sintre> ok hold up we aint done
[22:54] <sintre> go to konsole again
[22:55] <sintre> time to add backports
[22:55] <sintre> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[22:55] <sintre> after that type sudo apt update
[22:55] <sintre> then here we go again sudo apt full-upgrade
[22:55] <zeLMGN> couldn't find a distrobusion template for ubuntu/yakkity
[22:59] <zeLMGN> when i did the backports command
[22:59] <zeLMGN> i got a errir about distorbutuon templates
[22:59] <sintre> well scratching my head there
[22:59] <sintre> in the meantime just do a sudo apt full-upgrade
[23:00] <sintre> can figure out that error later
[23:00] <zeLMGN> is there anyway to enable ssh so i can do it from my deskop
[23:01] <zeLMGN> wait
[23:01] <zeLMGN> google
[23:01] <sintre> no clue on that one , its still a bit ealry if you hang around they'll be more people around that can help
[23:04] <zeLMGN> ahah
[23:04] <zeLMGN> it's litterally
[23:04] <zeLMGN> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[23:06] <zeLMGN> Progress: [  2%] [##........................................................]
[23:06] <zeLMGN> And kernel panic
[23:06] <zeLMGN> again
[23:06] <sintre> hey progress is progress
[23:06] <sintre> ok not good again
[23:08] <sintre> on alternative if this keeps happing is just to repeat steps as before but stay with 16.04
[23:08] <sintre> if 16.10 keeps giving these stability issues
[23:08] <zeLMGN> what i'll do
[23:08] <zeLMGN> is i'll just turn the volume down
[23:08] <sintre> i think gennii found a forum post about your pc model and some problems
[23:08] <sintre> lol good solution in the midterm
[23:09] <zeLMGN> and leave some autoplaying youtube videos on
[23:09] <zeLMGN> and see how stable it is
[23:09] <zeLMGN> just for browsing the web
[23:09] <sintre> not a bad idea
[23:10] <zeLMGN> but first download chrome
[23:10] <zeLMGN> it's not that i don't like firefox
[23:10] <sintre> i have a few installed
[23:11] <sintre> use frefox mostly
[23:11] <zeLMGN> I switch it up every few months really
[23:12] <zeLMGN> i think i'll just reformat and go back to 16.04
[23:13] <zeLMGN> it's just crashed again
[23:13] <sintre> yea , sry man i use 16.04 for my systems work fine with back ports
[23:13] <sintre> well we almost got there
[23:13] <zeLMGN> It's fine.
[23:30] <Roey> hello
[23:30] <Roey> how do I upgrade Kubuntu?  I tried do-release-upgrade -a, but I got "Checking for a new Ubuntu release"/"No new release found".  I'm on 16.04.
[23:31] <sintre> sure
[23:31] <sintre> need to change a setting so it will find it
[23:31] <sintre> one sec
[23:31] <dax> !upgradeofflts
[23:31] <sintre> sudo software-properties-kde
[23:32] <sintre> then go to updates tab and follow the bot
[23:32] <sintre> lol
[23:34] <Roey> thank you sintre
[23:34] <Roey> er
[23:34] <Roey> thanks dax!
[23:34] <Roey> ahhh ok
[23:34] <Roey> dax:  prompt was set to lts
[23:35] <dax> yep, that's default for LTS installs :)
[23:35] <Roey> thanks!
[23:35] <Roey> I tried with plasma-discover
[23:35] <Roey> but I think it was also limited by that line
[23:38] <Roey> dax:  thanks again old friend, it's upgrading now
[23:40] <zeLMGN> I figured out how to make the Start button open the menu
[23:41] <zeLMGN> https://blog.hanschen.org/2012/10/17/open-application-launcher-with-super-key/
[23:41] <sintre> ?
[23:41] <sintre> so sticking with 16.10 or gonna go back to 1604
[23:42] <zeLMGN> Mhmm
[23:42] <sintre> ?
[23:42] <zeLMGN> I've gone back to 16.04
[23:42] <sintre> nice upgrade that release yet
[23:42] <zeLMGN> yeah
[23:42] <zeLMGN> i've done all the package upgrades
[23:43] <sintre> try back ports yet
[23:43] <sintre> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[23:43] <zeLMGN> Nope
[23:43] <sintre> then sudo apt update
[23:43] <sintre> then sudo apt full-upgrade
[23:48] <Roey> dax:  context:  "Old Friend" was what Star Trek: DS9 commander Benjamin Sisko called his Trill symbiont friend Dax.