[00:26] <rayz> hello
[00:26] <rayz> who can help me?
[00:28] <krytarik> rayz: Ask the real question and find out.
[00:28] <rayz> I found the Korganizer is not work properly
[00:28] <rayz> telling me that some "akonandi" thing doesnt work
[00:29] <rayz> how can I fix it
[00:29] <rayz> btw i am using kubuntu 16.10
[01:20] <efloid> i have pointer set to open with single click.  so how to select without opening?
[01:22] <krytarik> Right-click.
[01:26] <efloid> krytarik: that works but then I have to close the menu
[01:30] <Fanfare> efloid: or click and drag
[01:31] <efloid> Fanfare: no because i need to click on the first item of a range
[01:33] <krytarik> efloid: Doesn't it select on mouseover anyway?
[04:19] <efloid> looking for an image viewer that shows exif data layover with hotkey
[04:19] <efloid> usually something like "I" shows a little overlay with exif info
[04:20] <efloid> or else wondering if dolphin has a way to show the exif date below the file name in icon view with preview
[05:38] <lethu> efloid, gwenview has exif tab
[05:38] <lethu> efloid, you just have to customize it
[05:38] <efloid> lethu: yes tab only.  no overlay
[05:38] <lethu> ah yeah
[05:39] <efloid> lethu: but you're right it's about the best there is.  on windows i like fastone image viewer
[05:39] <lethu> efloid, don't know this one
[05:40] <efloid> lethu: i see that winetricks has an install option for irfanview so maybe will try it
[05:40] <lethu> efloid, good luck
[05:42] <efloid> i really like it for kindle and a couple other apps
[05:45] <efloid> it installed but some issue with dolphin not passing the image to irfanview
[05:46] <efloid> hehe, googling for "dolphin open wine" does not give me close to what I want :-/
[06:03] <efloid> %f is only the filename.  is there an alias for the full path, maybe %F or something?
[06:05] <viewer|99979> Hi, how long does it take kubuntu 16.04 to be as stable as 14.04 LTS? Right now I am having troubles with plasmashell memory leakage (lenovo tower pc), x not starting with kde, therefore having to move to xfce (thinkpad t530) and so on. Any hint? Thank you guys
[06:07] <diogenes_> viewer|99979, the problem is not software but hardware
[06:08] <viewer|99979> Hi diogenes_, is there more standardized hardware then lenovo?
[06:08] <Roey> hi all
[06:08] <DarinMiller> viewer|99979: Have you installed the backports ppa?
[06:08] <Roey> hey I changed /etc/resolv.conf and added OpenDNS servers...but it doesn't appear to take...what gives?
[06:09] <diogenes_> viewer|99979, lenovo is the worst of the worst ppl ever created
[06:10] <viewer|99979> Hi DarinMiller, I should downgrade to kde 4.13?
[06:10] <DarinMiller> Roey: Canonical dynamically creates resolve.conf on boot.  You need to google the files that write the resolv.conf on boot (I don't recall what they are off the top of my head).
[06:11] <Roey> resolvconf
[06:11] <Roey> I don't know how to use it
[06:11] <DarinMiller> viewer|99979: I recommend sticking with Plasma 5 , but install backports:  https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[06:11] <DarinMiller> Roey:  just a sec and I will see what I can find.
[06:12] <viewer|99979> Hi diogenes_ why and what would you recommend to buy in future? Kubuntu 14.04 LTS did work perfectly on that hardware.
[06:12] <DarinMiller> viewer|99979: I have a Lenovo laptop and it works great with kubuntu 16.10 w/ backports ppa.
[06:13] <DarinMiller> Roey: Read this page and let me know if you have questions: http://askubuntu.com/questions/130452/how-do-i-add-a-dns-server-via-resolv-conf
[06:13] <Roey> I can't
[06:14] <DarinMiller> ?
[06:14] <Roey> my system's name resolution is broken
[06:14] <diogenes_> viewer|99979, first of all lenovo has an agreement with microsoft according to which it should pick only less linux compatible hardwsre
[06:14] <Roey> this is after I upgraded from 16.04 -> 16.10
[06:14] <Roey> I swear something messes up every time I upgrade
[06:14] <Roey> never ever ever smooth for me.
[06:15] <DarinMiller> Roey:  what is in your /etc/resolv.conf file now?
 I'd think boob gloop sounds better
[06:15] <Roey> ah
[06:15] <Roey> wrong channel
[06:15] <Roey> nameserver 127.0.0.1
[06:15] <Roey> search verizon.net
[06:15] <Roey> ^ that
[06:16] <dax> (bot got mad about too many lines in a row, i think)
[06:16] <DarinMiller> Roey: Ok, that should be fine. IRC chat is able to able to connect but urls fail to resolve?
[06:17] <Roey> yeah.
[06:17] <Roey> I mean they timeout and then resolve
[06:17] <Roey> but...for some reason in hte past half an hour they stopped resolving completely
[06:17] <DarinMiller> Roey: try removing/deleting your current entires from Network Manager and setting up fresh connections.
[06:18] <viewer|99979> Hi diogenes, which agreement are you referring to? Any background data on that? Does it target Thinkcentres and thinkpad 3 years of age? What would you recommend to buy in future?
[06:18] <Roey> DarinMiller: ok
[06:18] <viewer|99979> Hi DarinMiller, I will give backports a shot on my t530 first
[06:19] <DarinMiller> viewer|99979: Ok, let me know if you need assistance.
[06:19] <Roey> DarinMiller: which entries?
[06:20] <DarinMiller> Roey: Are you connected via wireless or wired at the moment?
[06:23] <Roey> DarinMiller: wired
[06:23] <Roey> DarinMiller: I have a router
[06:23] <Roey> it pushes the DNS to this box
[06:23] <Roey> DarinMiller: the logical thing would be to log into the router and see what it is pushing
[06:23] <Roey> it gets it automatically from Verizon
[06:23] <Roey> (the DNS server)
[06:23] <Roey> and it in turns pushes it to the box
[06:24] <DarinMiller> Roey: Have you changed any of the DNS routing options in your nm configuration?
[06:24] <Roey> DarinMiller: not to my knowledge
[06:24] <DarinMiller> OK, then don't delete anything.
[06:24] <diogenes_> viewer|99979, you coul read this about lenovo but this is only one issue I have always had major issues with every single lenovo http://www.zdnet.com/article/lenovo-reportedly-blocking-linux-on-windows-10-signature-edition-pcs/
[06:24] <Roey> ok
[06:24] <DarinMiller> Roey: lspci -k
[06:27] <DarinMiller> Roey: nevermind, that does not list the ethernet controller.  type ifconfig instead and find the name of your network connection.
[06:27] <Roey> ok
[06:27] <DarinMiller> Roey:  it should be something that starts with "e"
[06:29] <Roey> eth3.
[06:29] <Roey> DarinMiller: ^
[06:29] <DarinMiller> type:  ethtool eth3
[06:29] <DarinMiller> and pastebinit here...
[06:30] <DarinMiller> also pastebin the contents of your ifconfig output
[06:30] <Roey> I can't resolve pastebin
[06:30] <Roey> get it?
[06:30] <Roey> it's all messed up.
[06:31] <viewer|99979> Hi DarinMiller, if moving to backports helps, thank you. But do you agree, that this step should not be necessary with a LTS-version? If I look back 14.04 was a lot more stable, am I wrong?
[06:31] <Roey> DarinMiller: oh
[06:31] <Roey> DarinMiller: so here:
[06:31] <Roey> http://pastebin.com/KjeEt0R7
[06:31] <Roey> turns out I can resolv, it just has to time out first
[06:32] <valorie> viewer|99979: there are bugs in every piece of software ever written
[06:32] <DarinMiller> Roey: ethtool ethe | pastebinit
[06:32] <valorie> backports and updates gets you those bugfixes
[06:32] <Roey> DarinMiller: I don't have pastebinit
[06:33] <DarinMiller> viewer|99979:  It's a long complicated story that has to do with forced schedules and Plasma 5 in a state of transition when 16.04 was released.
[06:34] <DarinMiller> Roey: Your network connection looks good, no error in the ifconfig section..
[06:36] <viewer|99979> Hi valorie, I agree that software always has flaws. I also agree that updates fix the. But backports should not be necessary with a LTS-Version. I am just stating that 14.04 was more stable then 16.04. I wonder what I can do, to improve that. I also wonder what the reason for regression in quality and unit tests could have been.
[06:36] <DarinMiller> viewer|99979: The kubuntu dev team has shrunk dramatically and is missing people that have full package commit capability.  Also, Canonical has restriction on what can be upgraded in the repos. Thus, the backports PPA to the rescue.
[06:37] <Roey> DarinMiller: ok
[06:37] <DarinMiller> Roey: can you ping goole.com from the terminal?
[06:37] <Roey> no
[06:38] <Roey> DarinMiller: no, it just hangs there
[06:38] <DarinMiller> Roey:  Everything was working fine before you upgraded to 16.10?
[06:38] <Roey> correct
[06:38] <Roey> there was one question it asked me during hte upgrade process
[06:38] <Roey> whether or not to update some config file
[06:39] <Roey> I said 'n' to keep it the way it is
[06:39] <himcesjf> Killing which process would reset cursor? My cursor is stuck
[06:40] <DarinMiller> Roey: What is in your /etc/network/interfaces file?  (cat /etc/network/interfaces)
[06:40] <Roey> auto lo
[06:40] <Roey> iface lo inet loopback
[06:41] <DarinMiller> himcesjf: Try unplugging/replugging your mouse...
[06:41] <himcesjf> DarinMiller: I am on a laptop
[06:42] <viewer|99979> Hi DarinMiller, was there a reason for the shrinkage? I've read that Canonical removed KDE from beeing a standard desktop. Former Windows Users KDE has always seem to prefer KDE. And it was always better then Unity or GNOME, more complete then XFCE and LXE of course as well. What could be done to get KDE back up?
[06:42] <DarinMiller> Roey: your /etc/network/interfaces file matches mine.
[06:43] <valorie> viewer|99979: that's not quite correct -- KDE was  ever the standard desktop
[06:43] <Roey> ah
[06:43] <Roey> VALORIE!!!!
[06:43] <valorie> and Kubuntu has the same support that we've always gotten from Ubuntu
[06:43] <Roey> valorie: Amy WInehouse has this wonderful song entitled "Valorie", I love it
[06:43] <valorie> hi Roey
[06:43] <valorie> she spelled it Valerie
[06:43] <Roey> ah
[06:43] <valorie> but it is a great song anyway!
[06:43] <Roey> I've been listening to it in the car over hte past few days
[06:43] <Roey> it has such a motown beat to it
[06:44] <valorie> amy winehouse <3
[06:44] <Roey> is it a cover or an oriignal?
[06:44] <Roey> ahhh taht's right we've spoken abotu this before :)
[06:44] <valorie> she wrote it I believe
[06:44] <Roey> seriously???
[06:44] <Roey> what talent!
[06:44] <valorie> she was
[06:44] <Roey> sigh
[06:44] <valorie> another terrible loss
[06:44] <Roey> and she was only 27!!
[06:44] <valorie> viewer|99979: we're doing the best we can without our former lead devels
[06:45] <Roey> ok
[06:45] <Roey> I'm going to bed
[06:45] <Roey> good night all :)
[06:45] <valorie> and new devels are learning and getting better and more connected all the time
[06:45] <Roey> DarinMiller: and thanks for your help
[06:45] <valorie> but that was a lot of years of experience we lost
[06:45] <valorie> Roey: gn
[06:45] <himcesjf> DarinMiller: Any other suggestions?
[06:46] <DarinMiller> Roey: good night.  Sorry we didn't solve you nw issue.  Catch me again tomorrow.
[06:46] <viewer|99979> Hi Valorie, if I remember Versions from dapper drake 6.06 LTS on, you could always choose while installing if kde or gnome, later unity should be installed
[06:46] <valorie> ah, that's a difference in the installer
[06:46] <valorie> once Unity hit, it's been 100% Unity
[06:46] <DarinMiller> himcesjf: Which version of kubuntu?
[06:48] <himcesjf> DarinMiller: 16.10
[06:48] <viewer|99979> Hi Valorie, please don't think I am bashing you or any other developer. Thank you so much for your work. I am just trying to find out what could be done to help or change to get KDE as stable as Kubuntu 14.04.
[06:49] <DarinMiller> himcesjf: are you able to launch a terminal via krunner? (Alt-<spacebar> , then type konsole)
[06:50] <valorie> I think we are there -- I'm running 17.04, and it has been super-stable
[06:50] <himcesjf> DarinMiller: yep
[06:50] <DarinMiller> himcesjf: try restart plasmashell:  killall plasmashell && plasmashell &
[06:51] <DarinMiller> Roey:  try sudo iptables -F
[06:52] <himcesjf> DarinMiller: kquitapp5 plasmashell works for me
[06:52] <DarinMiller> himcesjf: that works too :)
[06:52] <himcesjf> DarinMiller: I mean, done that, no helkp
[06:52] <himcesjf> er
[06:52] <DarinMiller> himcesjf: are you running wayland or x?
[06:53] <himcesjf> I think it's related to synaptics or such
[06:54] <DarinMiller> HmpfCBR: did you install the synaptics package or any other touchpad package?
[06:54] <Roey> DarinMiller: to flush the iptables?
[06:54] <DarinMiller> Roey: yes
[06:56] <viewer|99979> Hi Valorie, everyone is talking about backports and the newest versions. But people who would like to work with ubuntu like to use LTS-Versions. The want to have a stable system for at least two years. Users get messages that a new Version is out there and even if you wait until 16.04.01 LTS, the system is still not running smoothly on standard har
[06:56] <viewer|99979> dware. Either you have a rolling distribution or you have LTS-Versions. The later ones should be very stable, right?
[06:57] <valorie> they have been very stable for me
[06:58] <valorie> however, I don't see updating every 6 months as "rolling"
[06:58] <valorie> I used to run gentoo -- *that* is rolling
[06:58] <valorie> or now there is arch
[07:02] <viewer|99979> in an office where people want to get their work done and don't like IT to change, LTS is the only way. 6 month is for private use in school and university with loads of time ok, but with family, work, sports and a normal life a stable version is a conditio qua non.
[07:03] <valorie> sure, that is the reason for LTS
[07:05] <DarinMiller> viewer|99979: with the transition to Plasma 5, many instabilities were introduced.  By adding the backports PPA, you will gain the benefits of package updates with stability fixes that the developers are not allowed to add to the 16.04 repos.  So technically, Kubuntu 16.04 is not the most stable as one would expect for an LTS release.
[07:05] <viewer|99979> So back to the question, what could be done to get Kubuntu 16.04 LTS as stable as 14.04? What was different then, who should be written to. How much money/ how many developers are needed? Which developers should be persuaded?
[07:06] <valorie> we need more developers, more testers
[07:07] <valorie> what was different then: we had seasoned veterans in charge, who could upload when needed, knew everyone in charge to get wheels greased, etc.
[07:07] <valorie> we're learning and developing as I said before
[07:07] <valorie> there is no magic wand to wave
[07:08] <valorie> also: we used to have one and then two paid devels
[07:08] <valorie> now we have none
[07:11] <viewer|99979> Hi DarinMiller, thank you for agreeing with me. Hi valorie, thank you for reply. Could you give me numbers? Is it possible to get those seasoned veterans back? How much would these paid devels cost? Do you have anyone in mind? How could the community be approached? Is it possibly to ask for money like wikipedia does every year? Any other aproach th
[07:11] <viewer|99979> inkable?
[07:14] <valorie> our former core devels are now in their own new project, neon
[07:15] <valorie> developers are expensive; I can't see us raising enough money to self-fund one
[07:23] <viewer|99979> Loads of errors. I am sorry for my orthography
[07:23] <viewer|99979>  valorie, developers differ in wages from country to country. Which salary do you have in mind? Which salary would attract the right developers to stay for quite some time. Which companies use KDE professionally? I have not been approached yet. What kind of fund raising is beeing done. What is thinkable? Is a nag screen like wikipedia thinkable?
[07:27] <valorie> I think you are beating a dead horse with that line of thinking, viewer|99979
[07:27] <valorie> we're doing the best we can, and those who want to help will start to help
[07:28] <valorie> wikipedia has millions of page views daily
[07:28] <valorie> our website has probably not gotten a million page views YET
[07:29] <valorie> many companies use KDE software
[07:30] <viewer|99979> Valorie, I am not a developer. Every bug I find I write about. I don't want to beat. I would like to help, so I am asking, how. Please don't be offended. On the contrary I would like to motivate people like me to pay something.
[07:31] <valorie> we have a link to contribute -- both time and money
[07:31] <valorie> and we appreciate both
[07:31] <valorie> money is useful to send devels to meetings and so forth
[07:31] <valorie> I"m not offended, just doing other stuff atm
[07:38] <viewer|99979> valorie, on every open source meeting/conference, I do see KDE. Meetings and conferences are important. To spend money passively seems problematic to me. Instead I would like to know how much money is needed, who would be the right developer and perhaps install a system where bug fixing is lead by people who pay for it. And to think, that people lo
[07:38] <viewer|99979> ok at the homepage is a littly far fetch since wikipedia is a website and kde is a GUI. So fund raising should be done where people use it. In the GUI, am I wrong?
[07:40] <sintre> viewer> then stick around spend time and get to know people working on the different projects?
[07:41] <sintre> i understand the not giving money blindly to a paypal donation button
[07:41] <sintre> so if you want to use some $ to help out spend some time first , get to know some people then you;'ll have a better idea of where to put your $
[07:43] <valorie> I would be lovely if groups or companies hired developers to work on kubuntu
[07:43] <valorie> that has been true in the past, but we didn't make that happen
[07:44] <valorie> and when those paid people left for other projects, we lost out
[07:46] <viewer|99979> interesting chat, but I need to go and after that the chat content will be lost. How could we keep in touch as we seem to have a common goal. Back to a yearly salary. Is there a rough amount?
[07:46] <sintre> this chat room isn't going anywhere
[07:46] <sintre> so come back and chat
[07:47] <valorie> viewer|99979: this channel is logged
[07:47] <valorie> hmmm, link isn't in the topic
[07:47] <viewer|99979> surely on the server, but not on my side
[07:47] <valorie> right
[07:47] <valorie> core ubuntu channels are all logged
[07:58] <viewer|99979> Thank you all. It was informative, but still too vague to invest my time/money in exchange for influence. I still don't know who i should talk too, which developer should be paid what. So I leave a little frustrated and I am not sure i I'll come back to help. I might come back to get support. But this communication channel does not seem to be aimed
[07:58] <viewer|99979>  to gain supporters. Anyway thank you for your help. I will try to get along with KDE even if Kubuntu 16.04 failed to meet my expectations and even though I yet didn't find a suitable way to invest myself. All the best for 2017. W/ kind regards, I need to go
[07:59] <sintre> ok i will not respond to what you said the way i would normally
[08:00] <sintre> so go away and have fun
[08:17] <viewer|99979> sintre, again I didn't want to offend anyone. I found out two developers should be funded. I did not find out who and how much though. I guess the NEON project people need to be contacted. Please keep up the good work. I am still willing to invest, but I don't know how yet. But I'd rather have invested some money then spend too much time on bug fix
[08:17] <viewer|99979> ing. My question for better hardware then lenovo was not replied to. And again Kubuntu 14.04 was perfect for me and 16.04 is not yet, but could be, hopefully in the nearer future. And perhaps a dumb paypal button in the gui would be good too. In Germany people like to spend money at the end of the year for legal persons who can stamp or sign donati
[08:17] <viewer|99979> on certificates for tax reduction.
[08:18] <valorie> sure, KDE got a good end of year fundraiser
[08:19] <valorie> KDE has an e.V. that can do that
[08:20] <viewer|99979> But is the problem Kubuntu 16.04 LTS or KDE? Who needs the funds?
[08:33] <viewer|56036> DarinMiller, thank you for https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports. Now my keyboard doesn't work if I use PLASMA at start up. In Xubuntu my keyboard works fine.
[09:18] <VulcanJedi> my firefox icon is missing, i added a shortcut to my panel, but if I right click and select "Icon settings" it opens a window for "Keyboard shortcuts"
[09:21] <VulcanJedi> additionally, when i attempt to add an online account to instant messaging in the tray, all I get is this popup "Could not load generic-oauth plugin, please check your installation"
[09:23] <sintre> are you fully updated?
[09:24] <sintre> i;m about to pass out aka go to sleep almost 4:30 a here
[09:25] <sintre> need version you're using as well
[09:26] <sintre> of kubuntu
[09:26] <VulcanJedi> 16.04, i should be updated
[09:26] <sintre> using back ports ?
[09:26] <sintre> or regular
[09:26] <VulcanJedi> i'm assuming regular since i don't know what back ports means
[09:27] <sintre> ok lets get to terminal and start
[09:27] <sintre> type sudo apt update
[09:27] <VulcanJedi> got one open
[09:27] <sintre> then sudo apt full-upgrade
[09:27] <sintre> if nothing there we can use back ports
[09:27] <VulcanJedi> nothing to update
[09:28] <sintre> ok then
[09:28] <sintre>  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[09:28] <sintre> after this repeat
[09:28] <sintre> previous
[09:29] <sintre> this is gonna take awhile
[09:29] <sintre> depending on your hardware and/or connection speed
[09:29] <VulcanJedi> 138meg, shouldn't be too bad
[09:29] <acheronuk> !backports
[09:30] <VulcanJedi> thx, boy that bot is handy
[09:31] <acheronuk> !bot
[09:31] <acheronuk> indeed :)
[09:31] <VulcanJedi> nice!
[09:32] <sintre> !bot seX0r
[09:32] <sintre> ok my late night command didnt work again
[09:32] <VulcanJedi> not that kind of bot, i'd presume
[09:33] <sintre> yea she'll warm up eventually :)
[09:33] <VulcanJedi> should i install -f for dependencies after? (i think that's what that does)
[09:33] <sintre> let it do it thing
[09:33] <acheronuk> !bothelp | sintre
[09:33] <acheronuk> lol
[09:33] <VulcanJedi> lmao
[09:34] <VulcanJedi> good form, sir
[09:34] <sintre> lol
[09:34]  * acheronuk must not tease the sleep deprived people really
[09:34] <VulcanJedi> !dual-monitor
[09:34] <VulcanJedi> not a thing...
[09:35] <VulcanJedi> !dualmonitor
[09:35] <acheronuk> link possibly not overly helpful for newer KDE desktops ^^^
[09:36] <VulcanJedi> while i'm here, do you guys know any tips/tricks/apps/plugins for using dual monitors in plasma?
[09:36] <sintre> under heavy development atm
[09:36] <VulcanJedi> yeah, it's a stup at best and references XFree86
[09:36] <VulcanJedi> *stub
[09:36] <sintre> i have issues myself with my newer laptop
[09:36] <sintre> gtting clone to work is impossible atm
[09:37] <acheronuk> usually use the newest plasma version you can, as multimonitor support is changing and improving fast
[09:37] <sintre> but if you have hdmi sound issues easy fix for most , get into sound  settings
[09:37] <sintre> then start picking the profiles one by one
[09:37] <sintre> one should work
[09:39] <VulcanJedi> i had fun finding a way to get my line input "listen" turned on
[09:39] <VulcanJedi> ubuntu's sound settings are rather limited
[09:39] <sintre> i get like 9 with my new i3 budget notebook
[09:40] <sintre> drove me crazy trying to get it to work
[09:40] <sintre> but can manually make it which is atleast good
[09:40] <sintre> but big hdmi tv  vs notebook screen one will want to mimick the other
[09:41] <sintre> in unifiy mode instead of allowing each to use native
[09:41] <sintre> so make either big screen feakin ugly and blurry
[09:41] <VulcanJedi> i'm still running a core2 quad desktop, and haven't bothered getting a mini hdmi hookup, just use the dvi
[09:41] <sintre> or notebook trying to make a huge 3 times it ssize image
[09:42] <VulcanJedi> my 2nd monitor is a 1280x1024 lcd, i ran through so much bad info trying to get the right resolution added to the settings dropdown
[09:42] <VulcanJedi> i blame nvidia
[09:42] <sintre> you might have better luck , than me then , have an older laptop gonna try old bga hook up to smaller tv and see what that works out to be , in  a week or so
[09:43] <VulcanJedi> yeah, you might crash by the time this is done installing
[09:43] <sintre> well kde duel monitor is a problem regardless
[09:43] <sintre> this lappy my main is my older and a nvidia
[09:43] <sintre> older gms 360
[09:43] <sintre> newer one is intel 5500 integrated
[09:43] <sintre> problems both ways so far
[09:44] <sintre> we'll see , lots of help
[09:44] <sintre> just gotta catch the time zones lol
[09:44] <sintre> this is kinda  lul period here
[09:45] <VulcanJedi> all i want to see is the ability to have each window show its own windows in its own panel
[09:45] <sintre> probally not safe to drink and give dvice at this point lol
[09:46] <sintre> but atleast you'll be updated :)
[09:46] <VulcanJedi> or at the very least, option to extend panel across both desktops
[09:46] <VulcanJedi> depends what you're drinking
[09:46] <VulcanJedi> so. . . instant messaging isn't fully supported yet?
[09:46] <VulcanJedi> at least, via tray
[09:47] <sintre> thats true but i've been up sinse 7 am yesterday
[09:47] <sintre> :)
[09:47] <VulcanJedi> ouch
[09:47] <VulcanJedi> i have fewer and fewer 24 hour all-nighters left in me, i dunno bout you
[09:47] <sintre> 33 here
[09:48] <sintre> i'm ewwith you but habbits die hard
[09:48] <VulcanJedi> same and same
[09:48] <VulcanJedi> well, a few months away from 33 yet, but i'm looking ahead
[09:50] <VulcanJedi> i'm going back to doctor who and finishing up with kubuntu later
[09:51] <sintre> alright man , good to meet you
[09:51] <sintre> gonna hit the sack
[09:51] <VulcanJedi> catch you on the flipside
[09:51] <sintre> c ya :)
[09:55] <lordievader> Good morning
[11:05] <VulcanJedi> !bot
[12:40] <VulcanJedi> !empathy
[12:40] <VulcanJedi> !telepathy
[12:48] <VulcanJedi> on the off chance anyone's in here right now... when i click to add my facebook to Online Accounts, an error pops up. "Could not load generic-oauth plugin, please check your installation" I've done a few searches and can't figure how to check my installation (other than adding backports, and doing the whole upgrade and update process via apt) and haven't found anything helpful regarding the plugin...
[12:56] <KurousagiMK2> apt search libaccount-plugin-generic-oauth
[12:57] <VulcanJedi> i long for the day i would think of that. i used apt search earlier.
[12:58] <VulcanJedi> it is installed
[12:58] <VulcanJedi> would i use checkinstall on it?
[13:21] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:56] <TBotNik> All: Having MySQL issue. Write up at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5654815#post5654815 . Need to fix, so can continue my development.  All help appreciated!
[14:00] <BluesKaj> TBotNik, don'think this the place for your question
[14:01] <BluesKaj> don't think this is the place , rather
[15:36] <IrcsomeBot1> Johannes P. was added by: Johannes P.
[15:39] <IrcsomeBot1> <Johannes P.> Hi, my laptops keyboard doesn't work with kubuntu 16.04.01. It does though in bios, grub and other GUIs. Any idea? Thank you for reading this and your input. wkr JP
[16:05] <francish> Hi IrcsomeBot1, do you get a console with  Ctrl-Alt-F1 ?
[16:17] <IrcsomeBot1> <Johannes P.> If you were addressing me. No Ctrl Alt F1 doesn't get me anywhere since in KDE keyboard seems to be dead
[16:19] <krytarik> So it does work in other desktop environments on the same install?
[16:43] <IrcsomeBot1> <Johannes P.> Yes,  exactly
[16:51] <krytarik> Is this a fresh install?  Did it ever work there?  Tried if it's the same in the Guest session?
[17:29] <Guest52906> Hello
[17:53] <IrcsomeBot1> <Johannes P.> It's an upgrade from 14.04
[18:08] <krytarik> Might be related to this: "Warning: 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS upgrade is currently problematic and should not be attempted by the average user. Please install a fresh copy of 16.04.1 instead." - http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-16-04-lts-release-anouncement/   How about the Guest session though?
[18:12] <krytarik> @Johannes P.: Does this notify you, btw?  (Due to the space.)
[19:44] <zxcvbnm> hey dont know if this is the right place, but i had a doubt about integrating my nextcloud account in kubuntu, because the online accounts app in the system settings states it supports owncloud, but it dosent even shows the owncloud option
[22:36] <alphazulu> when i do a search in Application Launcher I see a ton of http links that look like my web history or something.  how to disable it?
[22:36] <alphazulu> i already turned off everything in Plasma search options
[22:37] <alphazulu> only item I have selected is Applications
[22:42] <alphazulu> also clicked Clear History multiple times
[22:43] <various_accounts> The application launcher on the start button?
[22:43] <various_accounts> or the application launcher that appears at the top of the screen?
[22:43] <alphazulu> start button
[22:44] <greyteam> Hello
[22:44] <alphazulu> various_accounts: oh i just saw!  Application Launcher settings has toggle for "expand search to bookmarks, files..."
[22:45] <alphazulu> ahh relief!
[22:45] <greyteam> Hello?
[22:45] <various_accounts> alphazulu: :)
[22:45] <various_accounts> hello greyteam
[22:45] <alphazulu> various_accounts: so what is the Plasma search then?  The one that is at the top of screen?
[22:46] <greyteam> Do you know how to search channels by keyword on IRC?
[22:46] <alphazulu> greyteam: channel names or channel contents?
[22:46] <greyteam> Names
[22:46] <greyteam> and contents
[22:47] <valorie> !alis
[22:47] <alphazulu> greyteam: well for names, if you use HexChat there's a search under menu -> Server -> List of Channels
[22:47] <valorie> you can do names and/or contents
[22:48] <valorie> doing /list on freenode is discouraged
[22:48] <valorie> that's why they created alis
[22:48] <various_accounts> alphazulu: I can't remember the name anymore, sorry. I'm not on kubuntu16. downgraded to kubuntu14
[22:48] <greyteam> you people can see it too?
[22:48] <valorie> what people can see what?
[22:49] <greyteam> the list using alis command
[22:49] <valorie> no
[22:49] <greyteam> ok..
[22:49] <valorie> you can always do it in your server tab
[22:49] <valorie> often a good idea for direct IRC commands anyway
[22:49] <greyteam> thank you..
[22:50] <valorie> yw
[22:50] <various_accounts> ah alphazulu it's `krunner`
[22:50] <various_accounts> once it pops up you can configure it too
[22:51] <various_accounts> also possible to do so in the system settings
[22:51] <various_accounts> (I mean configure the keyboard short in the system settings)
[22:51] <alphazulu> various_accounts: i don't even think it's running on my system
[22:51] <alphazulu> just use the Application Launcher
[22:52] <various_accounts> afaik they didn't remove it in kubuntu16
[22:52] <various_accounts> *from
[22:53] <alphazulu> i probably disabled it or something.
[22:53] <alphazulu> don't really use any desktop widgets
[22:54] <various_accounts> it's in the `kde-workspace-bin` package
[22:54] <various_accounts> anyway, you solved your problem, so it's not important :)
[22:55] <alphazulu> i like pressing the win key and then just typing.  very convenient.
[22:56] <alphazulu> with newer kubuntu win key activates Application Launcher by default.  on your version you could install ksuperkey.  there's a PPA for it.
[22:56] <alphazulu> then you just configure it to autostart
[22:58] <various_accounts> atm, I hit win+space for the application launcher
[22:58] <various_accounts> and have a bunch of other shortcuts with win+...
[22:59] <various_accounts> in ubuntu mapping the win key alone toe something messed everything up, hence the switch
[22:59] <various_accounts> it's all good, cheers
[22:59] <alphazulu> smart idea.  i should do that also for some routine activities
[23:00] <alphazulu> if i type win + f + i + enter i get firefox.  i guess win + f would be better