[00:00] <SuperLag> reisio: <shrug> that's what LVM does for the root filesystem, by default
[00:00] <reisio> SuperLag: what was the command you gave to specify 100G?
[00:00] <derarsch> hey ist das gut
[00:00] <derarsch> http://www.ebay.de/itm/322389902233?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2648
[00:01] <reisio> smells like germanic
[00:02] <SuperLag> reisio: first, I resized the disk to 100G in VMware (while the VM was down)
[00:02] <reisio> oh so via some proprietary, binary gui?
[00:02] <reisio> no wonder you aren't getting reliable results
[00:02] <SuperLag> :P
[00:02] <SuperLag> I was getting to the lvextend part
[00:02] <reisio> that part doesn't matter
[00:03] <reisio> the "100g" is defined by vmware
[00:03] <SuperLag> lvextend -R -l +100%FREE <mount>
[00:03] <reisio> doesn't matter, it's limited by the actual size that vmware provides
[00:06] <kerananw> hi everyone, is there a software were I can mix and create sounds in 3d (hrtf)?
[00:08] <k1l_> kerananw: might be worth asking in #ubuntustudio ,too
[00:11] <kerananw> thanks k1l_, i just knew about that chan now. I will ask them about it also.
[00:12] <MylonB> Help, my wireless password changed and I forgot how to input the new one.  I don't have "wireless manager" or any other GUI tool and I vaguely recall editing a text file to input the SSID and password but I forgot how to do that.  Can someone help?
[00:13] <k1l> MylonB: you dont run network-manager on your desktop?
[00:15] <MylonB> I guess it was never installed or something or other.  I don't know why it's not there.
[00:16] <k1l> i dont know what you did. but the standard desktops come with network-manager.
[00:16] <mcphail> kerananw: I've played with sound emitters in blender, but can't remember if hrtf was implemented
[00:16] <MylonB> I installed Kubuntu, and then got fed up with KDE quirks and installed XFCE.
[00:17] <k1l> but you can look at /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf or /etc/network/interfaces . i dont know what you did
[00:17] <MylonB> That sounds familiar, k1l.
[00:19] <MylonB> There is no "wpa_supplicant.conf" in that folder.
[00:19] <kerananw> thanks mcphail, I have seen someone who was kinda doing it on blender also but I'm not quite familiar with that sw. I was kinda looking of a pretty simple apps but I'm considering on using blender if I couldn't find any. Also, I would like to ask if blender exports mp3 files or any audio format(wav, flac, etc)
[00:19] <kerananw> ?
[00:20] <MylonB> And there doesn't appear to be anything in /etc/network/interfaces.  Just 3 lines and none network related.
[00:21] <MylonB> Meh, I'll plug in an ether net so I can apt-get
[00:22] <mcphail> kerananw: I haven't exported an audio-only file from blender, but you could cerainly export to, say, mp4 and extract the audio from that. Wouldn't surprise me if you could export audio files. It is a bit of a swiss army knife of a program
[00:23] <mcphail> kerananw: the only other way I've seen it done is in raw openal code. Not user friendly!
[00:23] <MylonB> Okay, now I'm confused.
[00:24] <MylonB> apt-get: "Network-manager is already the newest version". "network-manager: command not found"
[00:24] <k1l> MylonB: there should be an icon in the system tray
[00:24] <MylonB> I think I removed it by accident.
[00:25] <kerananw> mcphail: Ok thanks. I might go with the blender route. :)
[00:27] <mcphail> kerananw: ha! Good idea ;)
[00:27] <kerananw> mcphail: I've got a reply from the studio chan and someone suggested non-mixer ( it might be a software ). I might try this one out first before moving to blender. Thanks for the help
[00:28] <Mylon> Okay, here I am on my laptop.  So how do I get network manager back on my system tray?
[00:28] <Term1nal> 16.10 Unity, I have "Open in Terminal" twice in my right-click menu in the file browser.
[00:29] <Term1nal> Also, windows network shares not saving still.
[00:30] <kerananw> I guess you have to install an applet for that Mylon? As far as I remember
[00:33] <Mylon> I thought I had it.
[00:34] <Byarlant> Hi
[00:34] <l0llip0p> hi
[00:36] <Byarlant> I have a question: if I do a standard install network-manager works just fine, but if I first do a minimal install and later install network-manager it just doesn't work
[00:37] <Byarlant> Any ideas? I already tried modifying /etc/network/interfaces
[00:37] <nacc> Byarlant: you don't use /e/n/i if you are using network-manager
[00:37] <Byarlant> and Network-manager.conf
[00:38] <Byarlant> Yeah, I commented everything except for lo
[00:38] <nacc> Byarlant: i would suggest using NM to modify settings, and not munging files yourself (and if you aren't using a GUI, use nmcli)
[00:39] <Byarlant> Tried nmcli, device stays always unmanaged
[00:40] <Byarlant> And I noticed that /var/run/NetworkManager is empty
[00:40] <nacc> Byarlant: did you make sure to start network manager?
[00:40] <Byarlant> On another machine I have many files there
[00:40] <nacc> Byarlant: are you using desktop or server?
[00:40] <Byarlant> Desktop
[00:41] <nacc> Byarlant: i would use the GUI, then, and configure it from the NM applet
[00:42] <Byarlant> Yeah, I can add ethernet from the applet, but it stays unmanaged
[00:44] <Byarlant> Anyways, thanks for your suggestions :)
[00:45] <Byarlant> I've been trying to make it work for two days, without success
[00:45] <Mylon> I tried using nmcli, but I don't know how to use it to connect.
[00:45] <reisio> Mylon: try nmtui instead
[00:46] <Mylon> That's how I noticed my wifi network changed.
[00:46] <Mylon> I think that'll work, thanks.
[00:46] <rocket__> hi
[00:46] <rocket__> is it hard to install a vpn?
[00:47] <rocket__> and with a vpn is my server secure and not hackable :P
[00:47] <kk4ewt> rocket__,  no
[00:48] <rocket__> kk4ewt, can you give me some  hints?
[00:48] <kk4ewt> is your server in a safe wrapped with a chain and dropped in a deep ocean trench?
[00:48] <rocket__> a vpn makes it harder to hack right
[00:48] <rocket__> i mean you need a key and so on
[00:48] <kk4ewt> no its another way in
[00:48] <rocket__> 2048 bit key
[00:49] <rocket__> so wahts the best protection you recommend
[00:49] <kk4ewt> it makes your data safer because the data is encrypted
[00:49] <stoner19> all of a sudden when I press tab in the terminal it tells me "-bash: cannot create temp file for here-document: Read-only file system" rather than filling the tab shortcut for a directory or file
[00:50] <stoner19> anyone else experienced this?
[00:50] <kk4ewt> rocket__,  having a  vpn doesnt help if you are doing other things you shouldnt on the server
[00:50] <rocket__> what shouldnt i do?
[00:50] <kk4ewt> like running ftp
[00:50] <kk4ewt> telnet
[00:50] <rocket__> i just want some server with almost no service
[00:50] <reisio> stoner19: 'read-only file system', pretty specific
[00:50] <rocket__> beside git
[00:50] <rocket__> noftp
[00:51] <rocket__> nothing
[00:51] <rocket__> only git
[00:51] <rocket__> maybe ssh
[00:51] <kk4ewt> and how are serving that git to the rest of the world
[00:51] <rocket__> via vpn
[00:51] <stoner19> trying to do anything else, such as update I get sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/stone/24: No such file or directory
[00:51] <rocket__> via vpn :D
[00:51] <reisio> a "vpn" the way most people use them is nothing but a proxy
[00:51] <rocket__> git via cpn
[00:51] <reisio> not that proxies aren't useful
[00:51] <mars79> hi, I have a question about mounting  second hard drive, the ubuntu help page states: sudo chown -R USERNAME:USERNAME /media/mynewdrive. Wouldn't sudo chown -R USERNAME /media/mynewdrive also be enough? Hence, why twice USERNAME?
[00:51] <rocket__> ok what do u recommend me?
[00:51] <rocket__> reisio, kk4ewt
[00:52] <stoner19> bbl to try and solve this
[00:52] <kk4ewt> rocket__,  to do some research and test it
[00:52] <reisio> mars79: depends
[00:52] <rocket__> i have no time for this
[00:52] <reisio> mars79: but they aren't equivalent commands
[00:52] <rocket__> i want some answer
[00:52] <kk4ewt> rocket__,  we cant answer because we are not on your server and can look around
[00:52] <apestate> rocket__, I don't recommend u.
[00:53] <kk4ewt> and we are not google
[00:53] <mars79> reisio, what is the difference?
[00:53] <apestate> read a book
[00:53] <rocket__> dont recommend me :D
[00:53] <kk4ewt> mars79,  one replaces the owner the other replaces the owner and owning group
[00:53] <rocket__> this is not helpful!!!! :D
[00:54] <reisio> mars79: what kk4ewt said
[00:54] <rocket__> ok if i install a basic ubuntu
[00:54] <rocket__> server
[00:54] <rocket__> is it safe?
[00:54] <rocket__> without anything
[00:54] <apestate> what are you asking?
[00:55] <rocket__> if its safe the sever isntall to make it connect to the inet
[00:55] <rocket__> sorry im no devop
[00:55] <apestate> no it isn't safe to connect anything to the net.
[00:55] <apestate> it's not safe to use electricity
[00:55] <rocket__> so you have a big trust in your OS
[00:56] <apestate> stop trolling please
[00:56] <rocket__> haha
[00:56] <rocket__> me?
[00:56] <rocket__> you are the only ones trolling me
[00:56] <wedgie> rocket__: if all ou want is git and ssh then an ubuntu server install sounds right for you.
[00:56] <rocket__> i ask serious questions
[00:56] <apestate> I came to ask if there was a disk image tool that can select between different filesystems
[00:56] <rocket__> and you just talk BS
[00:56] <rocket__> wedgie, first good answer thanks
[00:57] <rocket__> wedgie, is there anything i should care about regarding security
[00:57] <mars79> but in case USERNAME:USERNAME I set ownership to me and my own group, other users won benefit from it if I understand it correctly, so better USERNAME:USERS? That way I keep ownership and other users can also write to it?
[00:58] <wedgie> rocket__: of course. But that is a *very* broad question that we can't possibly hope to answer fully in IRC. Keep it up to date, don't expose services to the internet, and you should be fine for the most part.
[00:58] <efloid> is there a way to apply these kernel updates and not have to reboot?  I thought with Linux there was a way for kernels to be updated without needing to reboot?
[00:58] <Byarlant> Rocket: managing your own server is hard, if you only want git why not use an existing service?
[00:58] <rocket__> wedgie, ok i dont do that
[00:58] <rocket__> and i update
[00:58] <rocket__> i set to autoupdate
[00:59] <wedgie> rocket__: are you using this to *host* git services, or do you intend to ssh *to* the box and use git locally?
[00:59] <rocket__> wedgie, does a vpn make sense in terms of security?
[00:59] <apestate> no
[00:59] <rocket__> wedgie, no no ssh to the box
[00:59] <wedgie> rocket__: that depends on the question. VPNs are to secure traffic going from one place to another, or to provide secure access to an environment from the outside.
[01:00] <NginUS> What's the best way to use different versions of php in different nginx vhosts?
[01:00] <rocket__> ok
[01:00] <rocket__> yes i want that too
[01:00] <rocket__> secure traffic
[01:00] <apestate> NginUS why not virtualbox?
[01:00] <rocket__> somehow the universe shines on encryption so why not
[01:00] <rocket__> vpn
[01:01] <wedgie> rocket__: well, secure traffic from where to where? If you're going to the Internet then the traffic has to leave the VPN at some point.
[01:01] <apestate> where is the server
[01:01] <ObrienDave> !ot
[01:01] <MylonB> Woo, nmutil was the command I needed, thanks, Reisio.
[01:01] <NginUS> apestate: Its headless, plus vbox isn't licensed for commercial use without thousands in fees
[01:02] <wedgie> NginUS: If nobody in here has an answer I'd consider asking in #nginx
[01:02] <rocket__> wedgie, ok you helped me alreeady
[01:03] <rocket__> so i will get the server version
[01:03] <rocket__> and install vpn
[01:03] <rocket__> for encrypted traffic
[01:03] <wedgie> rocket__: from what you've described i don't think a vpn will do you any good. Also, do you intend to sit physically in front of this box?
[01:03] <NginUS> wedgie: Yea- just got my first response there after  waiting 10 minutes, which is why I came here...
[01:03] <rocket__> i hope ubuntu is not that easy to hack
[01:03] <rocket__> no not really
[01:03] <rocket__> its a server in my office
[01:04] <rocket__> ppl from all over the world will commit
[01:04] <NginUS> Seems the standard repos in 16.04 LTS don't include any php switching tools like phpenv, brew, etc
[01:04] <rocket__> i do sit behind the box
[01:04] <rocket__> but i wont maintain it really
[01:04] <rocket__> or care about it once it runs
[01:08] <apestate> rocket__, use debian jesse instead
[01:08] <rocket__> ok
[01:08] <rocket__> i thought about debian
[01:08] <rocket__> its more secure right
[01:08] <apestate> oh yeah
[01:08] <rocket__> ok
[01:08] <wedgie> no. Exact same considerations apply.
[01:08] <apestate> you'll enjoy the folks at ##debian giving you much more assistance
[01:08] <wedgie> apestate: cruel :P
[01:09] <rocket__> im chattingon debian right now
[01:09] <apestate> but if you want the ultimate, go with void linux
[01:09] <rocket__> well i dont care about this things
[01:09] <rocket__> really
[01:09] <rocket__> i have the problem im not a linux pro
[01:09] <rocket__> but i want some secure env
[01:09] <apestate> IRC: #voidlinux on freenode.net
[01:09] <apestate> void is your answer
[01:09] <rocket__> but frankly linux is already working better out of the box compared to other OS
[01:10] <rocket__> i think is i install some normal linux and keep security updates
[01:10] <rocket__> it should not so easy to hack
[01:10] <rocket__> ata ll
[01:10] <apestate> nah you've got systemd
[01:10] <apestate> you want to go with void
[01:10] <apestate> otherwise it will update and need a reboot
[01:14] <rocket__> is the standard ubuntu installation considered to be safe?
[01:15] <apestate> rocket you don't seem to know what you are even asking.  can I help?  ask them if there is a firewall in ubuntu server by default.
[01:16] <apestate> rocket__, https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ubuntu+server+tutorial+for+beginners
[01:17] <apestate> put 1 moment of effort into what you desire
[01:19] <efloid> a stupid question: if you have pointer set to open with single click, how to you select without opening?
[01:19] <rocket__> apestate, you dont seem to understand anything
[01:19] <Max11_7> yeah
[01:19] <rocket__> since im talking about the server release
[01:19] <rocket__> you talk a lot of shit man
[01:19] <rocket__> i was thinking this is a pro channel
[01:20] <rocket__> but apestate you answers let me doubt it
[01:20] <apestate> I got here after you, genius
[01:20] <wedgie> rocket__: your questions are too broad. It's like asking "Is it safe to drive a ford?"
[01:20] <rocket__> not really
[01:20] <wedgie> really.
[01:20] <rocket__> if im familiar with the topic
[01:20] <rocket__> i can say
[01:20] <rocket__> like
[01:21] <rocket__> yes, if you go for the server version keep it update you will be safe
[01:21] <rocket__> but if you use xy take care of xyz
[01:21] <rocket__> im 20years+ dev
[01:23] <wedgie> rocket__: and there are a *lot* of xyz variables.
[01:23] <rocket__> what you basically tell me is
[01:23] <rocket__> its not safe
[01:23] <rocket__> so i have to assume its crap
[01:23] <rocket__> os
[01:23] <rocket__> not safe
[01:23] <wedgie> it's a safe as anything else.
[01:23] <rocket__> you give me the feeling ubuntu is a piece of crap which is not safe
[01:23] <rocket__> is i install it out of the box and connect it to the internet
[01:24] <wedgie> rocket__: everyone in this room uses ubuntu. Kind of a biased audience.
[01:24] <apestate> I say it's not safe
[01:25] <apestate> I only came here because it's an active # not because I use ubuntu which is the work of the NSA and the devil himself placed systemd and tainted the kernel
[01:26] <rocket__> you see again
[01:26] <rocket__> wedgie, if you talk like that usually its crap
[01:26] <apestate> this person thinks his nitwit social gaslighting is going to get done what he wants done from you nerds
[01:26] <wedgie> rocket__: no car is safe if the driver doesn't know how to drive. Computers aren't so different.
[01:27] <apestate> rocket__, you should try the distribution gaslight
[01:27] <apestate> I believe it's a spin off of fedora
[01:27] <wedgie> apestate: your trolling isn't helping.
[01:27] <apestate> they use systemd also but, yanno.
[01:28] <wedgie> rocket__: I don't think anyone here can answer your questions to your satisfaction. Your best course of action is to go on google and do some reading. Good luck to you.
[01:28] <apestate> I'm not trolling, I'm telling you gaslighting is a thing and this rocket is using it as a tool on you.  he drags a line out of you then gaslights
[01:28] <rocket__> so you are not very convinced of ubuntu
[01:28] <rocket__> no i just wont install the server version
[01:29] <rocket__> because you told me its not secure
[01:29] <rocket__> thats what i did read between the lines
[01:30] <apestate> rocket, ubuntu's server product requires a bit of configuration to become secure to the standards a giant target like you would require
[01:30] <apestate> I would recommend something like windows NT
[01:30] <apestate> being totally honest
[01:31] <Max11_7> ls
[01:31] <apestate> I'm assuming you have lots of enemies right
[01:31] <Max11_7> sry
[01:31] <apestate> lots of people who would like to deface your server and ruin your projects, possibly infect malware into anyone who vists the server?
[01:32] <apestate> I would go with a less well known product.
[01:32] <rocket__> you see
[01:32] <rocket__> guys on debian
[01:32] <apestate> and let's face it, you're not going to get it set up properly
[01:32] <rocket__> answered my question in a minute
[01:32] <apestate> I might even roll back to dos
[01:33] <rocket__> its maybe just that ubuntu is just a bad debian rip off
[01:33] <rocket__> and you are not very convinced of it at all
[01:33] <rocket__> you seem to be not very professional at all
[01:33] <rocket__> i will go with debian
[01:33] <rocket__> thanks
[01:33] <apestate> this is how I seek help every time, I'm kind of laughing over here
[01:34] <apestate> I play the exact same game
[01:34] <apestate> needle and gaslight you nerds until I get what I want
[01:34] <apestate> lol
[01:34] <rocket__> frankly i never liked ubuntu its a debian rip off
[01:34] <apestate> ya rocket
[01:34] <apestate> ur smart plus canonical is the devil
[01:34] <apestate> lots of people don't know ubuntu is a debian ripoff
[01:35] <rocket__> also the guys on the debian channel seem to be a way more serious
[01:35] <apestate> you know go to distrowatch.com and guess what you see
[01:35] <rocket__> and more professional at all
[01:35] <rocket__> i think i will even deinstall ubuntu
[01:35] <apestate> ubuntu is #5
[01:35] <apestate> yeah it's on it's way out man
[01:35] <rocket__> for the desktop version
[01:35] <apestate> I'd smear it as far and wide as possible
[01:35] <Spec> Please, this is a support channel.
[01:35] <rocket__> there is no support for me
[01:36] <Spec> Then leave?
[01:36] <rocket__> debian ppl answered in a serious way in a minute
[01:36] <apestate> I guarantee that's not true
[01:36] <apestate> rocket says ##debian took care of him, I think he's a liar
[01:39] <apestate> rocket can you run # cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | pastebinit
[01:46] <ett> anyone around using dropbox? I'm trying to figure out how to run it on a server (no GUI)
[01:47] <rocket__> i have to say this debian guys are way more professional
[01:47] <rocket__> i will go with their release
[01:47] <apestate> 3rd time you've said it
[01:48] <rocket__> they also make fun out of you guys
[01:50] <rocket__> but they are honest too
[01:50] <rocket__> they said security issues are faster fixed in ubuntu
[01:51] <rocket__> but still i will go with their distro i think
[01:51] <wedgie> ett: you've seen this already? https://www.dropbox.com/install-linux
[01:51] <hggdh> rocket__: OK. I think this is enough now.
[01:52] <user__> .
[01:53] <rocket__> hggdh, i stop now dont worry
[01:57] <user__> what is xchat all about?
[01:58] <bazhang> it's an irc client user__
[01:58] <bazhang> better to get hexchat user__
[01:58] <user__> ok thank you
[02:09] <ett> wedgie: thanks for the reply.  yes, the problem is that I need to do the install without access to a GUI.  I'm ssh'd into the host where I want to mount the dropbox
[02:10] <wedgie> ett: unless i'm reading something wrong, the "headless" section of that page talks about that scenario
[02:11] <zhou_xingyu> hi guys,May i ask why ubuntu do not mount portable hard drive automatically
[02:12] <zhou_xingyu> it always mount the portable hard drive automatically before,but today it failed
[02:12] <bazhang> zhou_xingyu, what file system
[02:12] <zhou_xingyu> ntfs
[02:12] <zhou_xingyu> 500G ,with my import data
[02:12] <bazhang> is this a hdd zhou_xingyu
[02:12] <zhou_xingyu> yes
[02:13] <zhou_xingyu> so strange.fdisk -l shows I have a sdb1 disk 500g
[02:13] <zhou_xingyu> but in file manager there is no ,
[02:15] <zhou_xingyu> it work very there days since I install ubuntu,just failed today
[02:19] <lubo_> hi all
[02:24] <Dako300> lubo_: howdy, do you need help with anything?
[02:40] <dahlia> I have a dedicated server which had debian wheezy. I installed 16.04 on it and now, while I can connect to it via ssh on either windows or linux, I can't connect via putty. anyone have any ideas for things I can check? I've already cleared out the known host key for the old machine but that didn't help
[02:41] <wedgie> dahlia: any error message?
[02:41] <dahlia> sec
[02:42] <dahlia> wedgie:   "Server unexpectedly closed the network connection"
[02:42] <wedgie> how is auth set up? Keys or what?
[02:42] <dahlia> all is blank
[02:43] <Dako300> Is PuTTY configured to use SSH (you chose that and not telnet)?
[02:43] <kbob> dahlia: maybe your putty use an old version of 'know server'
[02:43] <dahlia> I dont have my public key on the box yet
[02:43] <dahlia> hmmm maybe I try updating putty then
[02:44] <dahlia> Dako300: ssh
[02:45] <stupid> hello
[02:45] <Dako300> I'm out of ideas, are you using a fishy NAT setup?
[02:45] <dahlia> its strange because this putty seems to work fine with any other linux box Ive tried for years
[02:45] <dahlia> prolly at least 50 or more
[02:45] <Dako300> I doubt updating PuTTY would fix anything since SSH is pretty old
[02:46] <wedgie> well, if it's years old you probably want to update anyway. Putty has had a few security fixes fairly recently. I concur that this is unlikely to solve your problem, though
[02:46] <postmodern> what is the preferred systemctl way to restart all services under a target? `systemctl restart myservice-*`?
[02:47] <Dako300> postmodern: sudo reboot
[02:47] <Dako300> jk
[02:48] <dahlia> oh latest putty works!
[02:49]  * dahlia facepalms
[02:49] <dahlia> ty all
[02:49] <Dako300> that's odd
[02:49] <dahlia> ya
[02:49] <Dako300> How old was the old version?
[02:49] <wedgie> maybe it was VERY old and the server only uses fancy new ecdsa stuff? *shrug*
[02:49] <dahlia> Dako300: not sure, could be a few years
[02:50] <Dako300> That's suprisingly old
[02:50] <postmodern> does `systemctl restart foo.target` restart all services that depend on it?
[02:52] <tpw_rules> so i foolishly made an error in a sudo conf file and now sudo is broken and i'm not sure how to fix it cause i can't get root to fix the file
[02:53] <wedgie> tpw_rules: probably easiest to boot a live usb
[02:53] <wedgie> tpw_rules: and in the future, always use ''visudo'' for editing sudo files :P
[02:53] <tpw_rules> is there some way that doesn't involve rebooting? i thought i had a root password set but just doing su isn't accepting it
[02:55] <wedgie> tpw_rules: not that I know of. Recovering from this is pretty painful, usually. Thus the prominent warning at the top of the file
[02:56] <dahlia> I see where I can use both systemctl and service to start/stop daemons. Is one preferred over the other? (for 16.04)
[02:56] <wedgie> dahlia: systemctl is the new way
[02:56] <wedgie> service is there for backwards compatibility
[02:56] <dahlia> ah ok
[02:56] <dahlia> service seemed more intuitive
[02:56] <Max11_7> may i ask a question?
[02:57] <Dako300> Max11_7: shoot
[02:57] <Max11_7> ?
[02:57] <wedgie> dahlia: systemd seems to have won the war, for good or ill. *shrug*
[02:57] <Dako300> what's the question
[02:57] <dahlia> wedgie: ya I remember there was a lot of drama over that but I don't really know details
[02:57] <tpw_rules> wedgie: pkexec might work if i were authorized via polkit to run as root
[02:57] <Max11_7> ok, so i have accidently disabled my main profile from doing abything with sudo
[02:58] <tpw_rules> why aren't i? i thought polkit popped up the dialog to enter your password to eg run updates
[02:58] <tpw_rules> which i can
[02:58] <Max11_7> and i need to fix it without being roo
[02:58] <Dako300> Specifically what did you do?
[02:58] <Max11_7> um
[02:58] <wedgie> tpw_rules: i'm only guessing but i always assumed that those popups were a frontend for sudo
[02:58] <Max11_7> i went into visudo
[02:58] <Max11_7> and un commented something
[02:58] <tpw_rules> Max11_7: lol welcome to the club
[02:58] <Max11_7> lol
[02:59] <tpw_rules> that's literally what i just did
[02:59] <Max11_7> really?
[02:59] <tpw_rules> yes
[02:59] <Max11_7> lol
[02:59] <Max11_7> did yall come up with a fix?
[02:59] <tpw_rules> no
[02:59] <tpw_rules> probably liveusb it looks like
[02:59] <Dako300> Max11_7: live CDs are the only solutions
[02:59] <Max11_7> the only think i have found is a usb
[02:59] <Max11_7> ah
[02:59] <Max11_7> ok
[03:00] <Max11_7> thanks guys ill look into it
[03:00] <wedgie> Max11_7: live usb or maybe single user mode
[03:02] <tpw_rules> hm is there any way to shut down safely in this state
[03:03] <tpw_rules> and can i boot into single user with an encrypted root
[03:04] <wedgie> tpw_rules: lol, quite the mess you're in. You can with encrypted home... never tried with encrypted root
[03:04] <tpw_rules> i mean i assume i can mount it in a live environment
[03:04] <tpw_rules> but UGH
[03:05] <wedgie> yeah, good luck. Uncharted territory for me, I'm afraid.
[03:11] <tpw_rules> wedgie: i just booted into single user mode and it worked fine
[03:12] <tpw_rules> had to enter the root pw but then i just visudoed it correctly this time and we're back in business
[03:12] <wedgie> tpw_rules: sweet. Good to know
[03:13] <crazyhorse18> hi all.. i need some software that can attempt to copy off everything from a semi-broken hdd
[03:13] <crazyhorse18> one that ignores bad-sectors and then just keeps trying to sync off everything it can
[03:14] <tpw_rules> crazyhorse18: ddrescue
[03:14] <tpw_rules> it's easy to use and will read the good areas first then come back to finish the bad ones
[03:14] <crazyhorse18> tpw_ruls: nice .. googling :)
[03:15] <crazyhorse18> tpw_rules, any thing else i should know about it?
[03:16] <tpw_rules> something like 'ddrescue /dev/sdx out.img logfile.log' will get you most of it, then you can rerun twiddling with the options to scrape out the last bits
[03:16] <tpw_rules> you might want to use -d to read the disk directly
[03:16] <tpw_rules> but other than that, not really
[03:17] <crazyhorse18> oh very nice
[03:17] <crazyhorse18> so for the backup drive
[03:17] <crazyhorse18> is it ok for me to use ntfs?
[03:17] <crazyhorse18> that way it'll just work if i plug it into an osx device etc
[03:17] <tpw_rules> the one you want to put the image on?
[03:18] <crazyhorse18> yeah
[03:18] <tpw_rules> osx cannot write exfat
[03:18] <tpw_rules> ntfs
[03:18] <tpw_rules> i'd suggest exfat instead
[03:18] <crazyhorse18> hmm exfat isin't on my ubutnu list
[03:18] <tpw_rules> no you'll have to install it
[03:18] <tpw_rules> it's a new proprietary microsoft thing so it doesn't come by default
[03:18] <crazyhorse18> ah right i see..
[03:19] <tpw_rules> so what kind of disk are you trying to recover?
[03:19] <tpw_rules> is it an osx one?
[03:19] <crazyhorse18> is there any reliability difference in terms of these different filesystems?  previously i've only been using ext4
[03:19] <crazyhorse18> 6.0tb ext4
[03:19] <tpw_rules> ehhhhhh. i'd say ntfs and ext4 are probably the same, but probably slightly better on their respective systems
[03:20] <crazyhorse18> ST6000DX000
[03:20] <tpw_rules> exfat is designed as a replacement to fat, so it doesn't have fancy features like journaling and stuff
[03:20] <crazyhorse18> ah right.. maybe i'll just format it in ext4 then
[03:20] <tpw_rules> ah. i was wondering if you were asking about osx to recover an HFS+ drive since i have more sage advice
[03:21] <crazyhorse18> i've never had an osx drive die yet
[03:21] <crazyhorse18> lucky :)
[03:21] <tpw_rules> i had a very good friend's main drive die
[03:21] <crazyhorse18> had 3 failures this year... one cost me thousand dollers to recover the drive
[03:21] <tpw_rules> and when you read certain sectors, the drive locked up and died
[03:22] <crazyhorse18> went to 3 places.. they all told me it had died...   4th place said 100% they can get data back from any drive
[03:22] <tpw_rules> i ended up writing a script that controlled ddrescue and a lab power supply to cycle power to the drive when it crashed
[03:22] <crazyhorse18> ｉwas thinking bullshit.. but then they were talking about worst case is they buy an identical drive and take the platters out
[03:22] <crazyhorse18> tpw_rules, haha very nice
[03:22] <tpw_rules> yeah those places are crazy
[03:22] <crazyhorse18> the guy had the drive working in 1 minute
[03:23] <tpw_rules> and still charged you a grand? ripoff :P
[03:23] <crazyhorse18> ah nah  took 5 days to copy the data
[03:23] <tpw_rules> oh
[03:23] <crazyhorse18> i'm like errr what.... and he said they have special firmware they use... also he was in some hex editor changing stuff
[03:23] <crazyhorse18> didn't seem bothered at all it was in ext4 and was encrypted
[03:24] <crazyhorse18> lol.. he needed the encryption key to start extracting the files though
[03:24] <tpw_rules> by the way ddrescue uses the log file to record where it's recovered and where it has to try. it's important to make sure you don't lose it until you're finished. but you can kill ddrescue at any time and it will pick up where it left off from the log
[03:25] <crazyhorse18> oh very nice
[03:25] <crazyhorse18> ironically the drive started having problems when we rsyncing stuff of it
[03:25] <tpw_rules> do you have a moment to talk about ZFS, sir?
[03:25] <crazyhorse18> oh yes.. zfs
[03:26] <tpw_rules> use it
[03:26] <tpw_rules> it's great
[03:26] <wedgie> crazyhorse18: lol, not too uncommon. Copying everything off a fairly intensive operation
[03:26] <crazyhorse18> zfs sounds very interesting.. i was asking people about it before
[03:26] <wedgie> <3's zfs
[03:26] <tpw_rules> ask me about it
[03:26] <crazyhorse18> and whether it was stable to use in ubuntu
[03:26] <tpw_rules> been using it on debian for years so i assume so
[03:26] <crazyhorse18> tpw_rules, so as far as i know about zfs.. it has lots of fancy features like checksums to autorepair bitflips
[03:26] <tpw_rules> yeah
[03:27] <crazyhorse18> if you have the same file twice or large amont of the same file it'll only store it once
[03:27] <tpw_rules> nah my fav feature is snapshots
[03:27] <tpw_rules> zfs deduplication sucks pretty hard. it's extremely memory and cpu intensive
[03:27] <crazyhorse18> oracle it's evil claws into it.. but there's some openzfs
[03:27] <wedgie> crazyhorse18: i don't advise turning on deduplication unless you really know what you're doing
[03:27] <crazyhorse18> ok.. so what are the main advantages of using zfs over ext4 / ntfs / extfat
[03:27] <crazyhorse18> and can you use it as your boot drive?
[03:28] <wedgie> checksumming and snapshots, mostly
[03:28] <tpw_rules> transparent compression. with lz4 it will compress faster than the disk can write
[03:28] <tpw_rules> and yeah those
[03:28] <wedgie> oh yeah, compression. Definitely that
[03:28] <crazyhorse18> oh you can store more shit on it?
[03:28] <crazyhorse18> because it's compressed
[03:28] <tpw_rules> snapshots are something else. when you snapshot something it's instantly saved
[03:28] <tpw_rules> and then you can send the snapshot over ssh or something to another zfs pool
[03:28] <crazyhorse18> snapshots.... like .. so you can go back to an early statee?
[03:29] <tpw_rules> and it will only send what's changed since the last snapshot
[03:29] <tpw_rules> yeah
[03:29] <tpw_rules> and they're free. since it keeps track of every single block, a snapshot only says "here's what all the blocks were then"
[03:29] <crazyhorse18> wow
[03:29] <crazyhorse18> ok wow
[03:29] <tpw_rules> and you only use more data if you change a file
[03:29] <crazyhorse18> what do you guys do for your automated backup systems?
[03:29] <crazyhorse18> .... i don't have one, i've always found it a really really difficult problem
[03:30] <tpw_rules> time machine on my osx machines, crashplan everywhere too
[03:30] <crazyhorse18> lol.. even though i'm a software engineer my backup system has been copy and paste
[03:30] <tpw_rules> i hear pretty good things about backblaze. crashplan is good but the client is java and sucks
[03:30] <tpw_rules> backblaze STILL doesn't support linux though >:(
[03:30] <crazyhorse18> eh
[03:31] <crazyhorse18> linux is our main os
[03:31] <crazyhorse18> i mean i could setup systems to dump stuff upto s3
[03:31] <tpw_rules> crashplan does. but prepare to sacrifice ram to the Java gods
[03:31] <tpw_rules> oh and yes you can boot off zfs
[03:31] <crazyhorse18> but i've just got no idea of a system that would work
[03:31] <crazyhorse18> tpw_rules, i need to upgrade to ubuntu 16.04 soon
[03:31] <crazyhorse18> so maybe i'll look at converting then
[03:32] <crazyhorse18> and i'm guessing zfs can combine with some sort of on-the-fly encryption?
[03:32] <tpw_rules> no, actually
[03:32] <tpw_rules> well the real one can, but oracle didn't release that bit
[03:33] <tpw_rules> but i just encrypted the partitions of all the disks I used with LUKS then put zfs on the partitions LUKS exposed
[03:35] <tpw_rules> so i have like /dev/sda-f then luks makes /dev/mapper/sda-f or whatever and zfs is on top of the second one
[03:35] <crazyhorse18> oh right i see
[03:35] <crazyhorse18> so can i install zfs in ubutnu 14.04?
[03:35] <tpw_rules> luks can link drives together so you can unlock them all with one password
[03:35] <crazyhorse18> and have it be stable
[03:35] <tpw_rules> yeah
[03:35] <crazyhorse18> open-zfs?
[03:35] <tpw_rules> you might need a ppa or something
[03:35] <tpw_rules> it's just called zfs on 16.04
[03:35] <tpw_rules> http://blog.boyeau.com/quick-install-install-zfs-file-system-on-ubuntu-14-04/
[03:35] <crazyhorse18> installin
[03:35] <tpw_rules> be  prepared to learn a lot of weird terminology tho
[03:36] <tpw_rules> well not really weird, but zfs people will look at you weird if you start talking about filesystems
[03:36] <tpw_rules> not really a lot*
[03:36] <crazyhorse18> hehe right
[03:37] <tpw_rules> also zfs does its own raid management
[03:37] <Markandeya> join/ #joomla
[03:44] <Dundat> hola que pasa
[03:45] <Bashing-om> !es | Dundat
[03:45] <Dundat> lol
[03:46] <Dundat> guess youre not allowed to speak spanish in english chat
[03:46] <crazyhorse18> hmm
[03:46] <Dundat> hmm
[03:46] <Dundat> :D
[03:46] <crazyhorse18> i just get ubuntu-zfs does not exist
[03:50] <benfitzpatrick> well i tried systemback guys, all it gave me was a snapshot of my system, im not trying to do that, im trying to do a ubuntu remaster..
[03:51] <benfitzpatrick> and i tried systemback, remastersys, respin, and pinguybuilder, no luck. all they did was give me an iso with default settings and a wallpaper
[03:51] <benfitzpatrick> that i dont want
[03:52] <benfitzpatrick> i want to copy my custom themes and settings..but it wont ironically
[03:55] <roboter> hi, i just started using ubuntu. how do i asign multiple keyboard shortcuts to open a terminal with gnome?
[03:57] <deeglaze> roboter: go to the "Keyboard" option in the settings window, and "application shortcuts" tab.
[03:57] <roboter> I did that
[03:57] <roboter> but how do i assign multiple ones at the same time?
[03:58] <deeglaze> You can add multiple shortcuts that run the same command to open the terminal.
[03:58] <roboter> if i click on it it just changes the shortcut
[03:59] <deeglaze> right, you click "+ Add" without messing with any existing shortcut.
[03:59] <benfitzpatrick> well, im stumped
[03:59] <stupid> hello
[04:00] <benfitzpatrick> well, idk what to do to fix my issue
[04:00] <Arcaire> Heya, I'm trying to (re)install Ubuntu on a laptop I have. Running default settings on the USB it freezes on the Ubuntu splash screen - after GRUB but before it gets to the installer. If I force it into text mode by modding the GRUB arguments from 'quiet splash' to 'text',  it loads until I see "detect the available GPUs and deal with any system changes",
[04:00] <Arcaire> which has no timeout limit. It then sits there forever, counting up. The laptop has a discrete Nvidia card, using Optimus, and I think Nouveau is outright broken for it. Is there any way around this to get it installed?
[04:02] <roboter> maybe im stupid, i just see the "open terminal" within starter and if i click on "+" i get to own shortcuts and i dont know a command for terminal
[04:03] <benfitzpatrick> -shrugs-
[04:04] <deeglaze> roboter: depends on which terminal emulator you want to use. "xterm" is a common choice. You can also copy whatever command is used for the existing shortcut that opens a terminal.
[04:04] <benfitzpatrick> deeglaze: i've gotten no help yet
[04:05] <deeglaze> benfitzpatrick: I'm sorry, I'm not able to help you.
[04:06] <benfitzpatrick> well i have tried 4 different tools to make a custom ISO, its not working
[04:06] <benfitzpatrick> and i googled all day and night for 2 days, nothing fixed it
[04:07] <tatertots> benfitzpatrick: keep trying..you'll get it..one day
[04:07] <benfitzpatrick> tatertots: well idk what to do
[04:07] <benfitzpatrick> tatertots: everyone i talked to said to come here and get an answer
[04:08] <roboter> deeglaze: xterm opens one, just out of curiosity: how do i copy the "old" choice? i cant see it and its different
[04:08] <benfitzpatrick> tatertots: so i dont get why it'd be so hard for one of you to tell me what to do? it's not that painful/hard to help someone out -sighs-
[04:08] <Ben64> benfitzpatrick: relax
[04:09] <benfitzpatrick> Ben64: i just need someone to help .. im sorry
[04:09] <Bashing-om> Arcaire: What release ? As I too have a new Nvidia card that has no support in 14.04 ( 16.04 picks it up ) .. and in 14.04 I must boot with the nomodeset boot parameter .
[04:09] <benfitzpatrick> im just frustrated because i've waited almost 20-30 minutes and no replies
[04:10] <Ben64> benfitzpatrick: being annoying isn't going to help
[04:10] <benfitzpatrick> Ben64: well i understand that but waiting doesn't seem to do much either
[04:10] <tatertots> benfitzpatrick: relax, other might have or know a different or better way of doing what it is you want to do...but you'll have to observe long enough to be enlightened about that
[04:11] <Arcaire> Bashing-om: welp
[04:11] <Arcaire> after four hours
[04:11] <Arcaire> solved with nomodeset
[04:11] <deeglaze> People in here aren't Best Buy Geek Squad folks to be yelled at.
[04:11] <benfitzpatrick> tatertots: well i dont have all night to wait, i got things to do ..
[04:12] <eka> hi all, I have this windows 10 with a share for my user and from nautilus I try to copy a file and it says I can't copy it not even create a folder... but I login with my user credentials... and in windows is configured to give full access
[04:12] <Ben64> people here are volunteers, they don't work for you. if you pay someone then you'll get help faster
[04:12] <Bashing-om> Arcaire: Now once installed a proprietary driver may work for ya where nouveau is not available .
[04:12] <benfitzpatrick> Ben64: if i had money
[04:12] <Ben64> then be patient
[04:13] <benfitzpatrick> ok..
[04:15] <roboter> deeglaze: it was gnome-terminal - i figured it out by brute force, thank you for your help!
[04:16] <deeglaze> :thumbsup:
[04:17] <roboter> so im still interested how to look up the commands behind the entrys, even though its not important at the moment
[04:18] <deeglaze> That I'm not entirely sure what to tell you since our window managers are different and I can't really divine what your setup looks like.
[04:19] <deeglaze> I use xfce, but I just happened to know that shortcuts and "keyboard" are paired in just about all the different window managers' settings control panel.
[04:24] <metaresolve> Hi, I'm trying to follow this page and it's not working. I want to find a directory but egrep is not helping. Can someone please help?
[04:24] <metaresolve> http://askubuntu.com/questions/123305/how-to-find-a-folder-on-my-server-with-a-certain-name
[04:24] <roboter> thank you for help again, im going to sleep now
[04:25] <deeglaze> metaresolve: the "find" answer on that page may work for you.
[04:26]  * metaresolve hangs head
[04:26] <metaresolve> yeah, i'm that dumb.
[04:26] <metaresolve> thanks
[04:27] <metaresolve> when I run find \ -name tutorial -type d it just hits return and doesn't do anything. please help?
[04:28] <deeglaze> forward slash / is your root directory. Starting there may take a while. Perhaps try find /home/[yourusername] -name tutorial -type d
[04:29] <metaresolve> I'm trying to find the tutorial data in the postgresql documentation page. but i didn't know where to start. it's acctually /src/tutorial
[04:29] <metaresolve> omg
[04:29] <metaresolve> ok, i jujst thought of something
[04:30] <metaresolve> will be back
[04:32] <metaresolve> I don't think it's searching
[04:32] <metaresolve> http://pastebin.com/zAgXiaJP
[04:32] <metaresolve> or, i don't understand why it's just sending me back to the prompt.
[04:33] <CuChulaind> Hello. I wish to use a different DNS server. I placed the 3 I want in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf (uncommenting prepend section) however cat /etc/resolv.conf shows loopback and 192.168.1.1
[04:33] <deeglaze> backslash is the wrong thing to use here.
[04:33] <metaresolve> shouldn't it deliver me an answer to find?
[04:33] <CuChulaind> where else do I need to make changes
[04:34] <metaresolve> http://pastebin.com/5kvzLg26
[04:39] <Bashing-om> netsnail: IIf the file is in your home directory try as ' find . -name tutorial ' .
[04:40] <metaresolve> i know, that/s why i wondered if that would work. however, that's what i was told to try
[04:40] <JonelethIrenicus> what is a good thin laptop that is powerful and you can connect an eGPU to it?
[04:40] <metaresolve> i just want to search the whole computer for the tutorial data in postgresql. where is my "program files" folder in ubuntu?
[04:41] <metaresolve> i give up. i was trying to find it through commands but i give up.
[04:43] <metaresolve> no, i don't give up, please, someone help me. it's so simple but i can't do it.
[04:44] <tatertots> CuChulaind: you can set static ip settings in the gui network settings and or network manager
[04:44] <metaresolve> no, i hvaze another way. never mind.
[04:47] <CuChulaind> after editing dhclient.conf adding 3 dns servers, restarting dhclient, cat /etc/resolv.conf doesn't show those address. where do I need to change the servers I use?
[04:48] <tatertots> CuChulaind: 192.168.1.1 is handling what dns servers get populated
[04:50] <tatertots> CuChulaind: so if you want to use those DNS servers use static ip settings on the computer and specify those DNS servers...simple :)
[04:51] <tatertots> CuChulaind: otherwise manage 192.168.1.1 to function appropriately
[04:52] <CuChulaind> tatertots, Thank you. How can I then verify what DNS server I am using?
[04:53] <tatertots> CuChulaind: for which type of lookups?
[04:53] <CuChulaind> websites
[04:53] <tatertots> CuChulaind: for example ubuntu.com
[04:53] <CuChulaind> tatertots, yes
[04:54] <CuChulaind> tatertots, 192.168.1.1 is my firewall, which should be set to different DNS other than my isp, looking to check
[04:54] <tatertots> CuChulaind: nslookup ubuntu.com
[04:54] <CuChulaind> tatertots, it points to 192.168
[04:54] <CuChulaind> .1.1
[04:55] <tatertots> CuChulaind: the responding server is listed then it's response
[04:55] <tatertots> CuChulaind: are you using static ip settings? yes or no
[04:55] <CuChulaind> tatertots, I don't know, how can I tell?
[04:56] <CuChulaind> tatertots, as in DHCP leases?
[04:58] <CuChulaind> tatertots, if so, yes the machine I am on has a static address on my LAN, my ISP gives me a dynamic addy
[05:01] <crazyhorse18> if i was to install ubuntu from scratch.. should i be installing 16.04 or 16.10
[05:01] <crazyhorse18> i mainly do software development, node.js etc
[05:02] <tatertots> CuChulaind: cat /etc/network/interfaces|nc termbin.com 9999
[05:02] <tatertots> CuChulaind: share url/link here
[05:02] <CuChulaind> tatertots, nslookup returns 192.168.1.1 for Server and 192.168.1.1#53 for address
[05:03] <CuChulaind> tatertots, http://termbin.com/ywol
[05:04] <tatertots> CuChulaind: isn't 192.168.1.1 your router? yes
[05:04] <CuChulaind> yes
[05:06] <tatertots> CuChulaind: your router is handing out ip addresses masks and dns addresses to your computer
[05:07] <tatertots> CuChulaind: you'll need to specify a static ip address if you don't want the network settings handed to you by your own router, or simply manage the router to use the DNS servers of your choice
[05:07] <CuChulaind> tatertots, In my router, I specified specific DNS servers (that are supposed to override my ISP's default), how can I tell that is working
[05:09] <tatertots> CuChulaind: nmcli dev show|grep DNS|nc termbin.com 9999
[05:09] <Deeewayne> I just completed a release upgrade from 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS and now I can't start my apache2 service if I have authz_svn and dav_svn enabled in apache2
[05:09] <Deeewayne> using a2dismod authz_svn (and dav_svn) allows me to successfully start apache2
[05:10] <exots> hackerman
[05:10] <exots> yo soy hacker xdddddddddddd
[05:10] <Deeewayne> there is are undefined symbols for dav_svn_get_repos_path2
[05:10] <CuChulaind> tatertots, http://termbin.com/jla3 192.168.1.1
[05:10] <exots> i am hackerman
[05:10] <Deeewayne> anyone see this before ?
[05:10] <exots> :v alquien de aqui juega minecraft
[05:11] <Deeewayne> also seeing an undefined symbol for dav_do_find_liveprop
[05:11] <exots> alquien que hable español
[05:11] <exots> alquien que hable español
[05:11] <exots> alquien que hable español
[05:11] <exots> ??
[05:12] <tatertots> CuChulaind: that's your router not obeying your settings
[05:13] <exots> alquien habla español ?
[05:13] <exots> alquien habla español ? x2
[05:13] <exots> alquien habla español ? x3
[05:14] <exots> como entro al chat en español
[05:15] <CuChulaind> tatertots, Ah
[05:15] <kbob> is there and ubuntu channel in latino / spanish?
[05:15] <tatertots> CuChulaind: it should be able to hand out 3x DNS servers to devices on the network, a primary, a secondary and a third
[05:16] <wafflejock> !es | kbob
[05:16] <crazyhorse18> hey is updating linux from 15.04 to 16.04 relatively safe?
[05:16] <tatertots> CuChulaind: you've only got a primary of the router meaning the router/modem is handling all name resolutions for the LAN
[05:17] <kbob> wafflejock: thanks
[05:17] <wafflejock> np
[05:17] <xangua> crazyhorse18: you'd have to upgrade to 15.10 first
[05:17] <kbob> exots:  /join #ubuntu-es     te entiende?
[05:18] <CuChulaind> tatertots, I understand, which is okay, as long as it is using the servers I specified in the router (vs my original ? which was machine specific)
[05:20] <eka> exots: trata con #ubuntu-es
[05:21] <wafflejock> CuChulaind, dig command will tell you which DNS server gave you the response for a DNS query
[05:21] <wafflejock> CuChulaind, chrome has a built in DNS cache too though if you're doing something through the browser and not seeing the change there would clear the DNS cache in the browser
[05:24] <wafflejock> crazyhorse18, 16.04 is LTS 16.10 is not if you want the latest software and are okay with doing the upgrades every 6 months then 16.10 is fine but if you want something with support for more time 16.04 is a better option
[05:24] <wafflejock> !lts | crazyhorse18
[05:25] <CuChulaind> wafflejock, Will try
[05:26] <CuChulaind> wafflejock, dig returned my router as well, I entered an address I hadn't gone to on this machine before (liveUSB recently created)
[05:27] <oscar__> exots
[05:27] <oscar__> de donde eres
[05:29] <crazyhorse18> wafflejock, ok i'll go with 16.04
[05:29] <crazyhorse18> i'm guessing 18.04 is going to be the next LTS?
[05:30] <nedstark> yes
[05:30] <crazyhorse18> so to do the release upgrade, i an just do sudo do-release-upgrade?
[05:31] <crazyhorse18> is there a chance that it breaks the OS?
[05:34] <nedstark> crazyhorse18, its always possible to break during a major update.  backing up 1st is a good idea. if you're going from 16.04 to 16.10 the instructions are here https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[05:35] <nedstark> or you can just update 16.04 for its lifespan
[05:40] <nchambers> what is a good movie editor for ubuntu?
[05:41] <wafflejock> nchambers, kdenlive is a nice option
[05:41] <nchambers> ty
[05:43] <CrazyTux> Does Android OS work in Xubuntu through virtualization?
[05:43] <wafflejock> CuChulaind, read back and see you're looking to see if the router is resolving the addresses from the DNS you updated, you can try with dig +trace, to get some more details, I just tried a few times here and I don't always get the same result which is a bit strange but might help
[05:44] <Phanes> does ubuntu deviate at all from FHS 3.0 anywhere?
[05:44] <nedstark> CrazyTux, you can use virtualbox with android x86
[05:46] <CrazyTux> nedstark, I tried it yesterday on Xubuntu installed on my laptop. The Android OS inside the virtual box was unresponsive. But, another distro Sparky Linux didn't have any problem in running in Virtual Box.
[05:46] <CuChulaind> wafflejock, that returned the same thing
[05:46] <Phanes> CrazyTux, the descriptors you are using do not actually mean anything
[05:47] <Phanes> CrazyTux, try describing the process, and at each point describe what you expected, and what you saw instead
[05:47] <CrazyTux> Phanes, the mouse coursor didn't move at all on Android OS installed inside the Virtual Box.
[05:47] <Phanes> also was your android compiled for x86 or arm?  did the vbox guest arch match that?
[05:48] <Phanes> so you got a mouse cursor
[05:48] <Phanes> ?
[05:48] <Phanes> that would be quite different than 'totally unresponsive', it means you cleared init
[05:48] <CrazyTux> Phanes, it was for x86.
[05:48] <CrazyTux> Phanes, yes. It was too sluggish to be called as responsive.
[05:49] <Phanes> oh, so it actually wasn't 'unresponsive' it was responding sluggishly.  that is also differnt.
[05:49] <Phanes> words mean things
[05:49] <Phanes> what was your host cpu load when the vm was running
[05:50] <CrazyTux> Phanes, yes. Too sluggish to even move the cursor to the appropriate place and change the language in the initial screen.
[05:50] <Phanes> did you have virtualization settings enabled in your bios settings on the host?  was that in use in the vm guest config?
[05:51] <Phanes> did you install the virtual guest display drivers?
[05:51] <CrazyTux> Phanes, I tried another distro, a Debian based distro Sparky Linux. I didn't have any problem with it.
[05:52] <Phanes> CrazyTux, understood.  ill come back when you're answering the needed questions asked of you
[05:52] <CrazyTux> The settings for both Android and Sparky were the same.
[05:52]  * Phanes goes to do something else
[05:53] <Phanes> btw, anyone know if ubuntu is strict FHS 3.0 compliant or if there are deviations?  where would I find out?
[05:53] <CrazyTux> My new laptop supports virtualization and it was enabled in the bios settings.
[05:54] <Phanes> which settings?
[05:55] <CrazyTux> don't know. I am totally new to such things. I tried this Virtual Box for the first time yesterday.
[05:55] <Phanes> was it a setting marked F_4-VTXLR?
[05:56] <Ve0> KVM forever!!!
[05:56] <CrazyTux> Phanes, do Android and Sparky Linux need different settings enabled?
[05:57] <Phanes> CrazyTux, let me know when you'll ask what's asked of you answer what i actually asked.
[05:57] <Phanes> whoa this clipboard hotkey got me
[05:57] <CrazyTux> Phanes, I'll do one thing. I'll come back when I am on my new laptop. Now I'm using my old laptop.
[05:57] <Phanes> CrazyTux, the settings you checked were enabled, was it called F_4-VTXLR?
[05:57] <CrazyTux> thanks for the help.
[05:58] <Phanes> meh
[06:00] <Ve0> Hi 2 all
[06:01] <turista> can anyone tell me if I can use the android phone as ethernet/wiress adapter without using an app?¿
[06:01] <CrazyTux> I tried with both Sparky and Android in Virtual Box with the same settings. Sparky worked but Android didn't.
[06:01] <CrazyTux> Will come back later, with all the details.
[06:01] <Phanes> CrazyTux, i will no longer help you until you are actually checking things
[06:01] <Phanes> oh ok
[06:02] <CrazyTux> Phanes, really sorry. My new laptop is not accessible now. Will come back later.
[06:02] <newcoder> Does ubuntu have same name for a package like debian?
[06:02] <Phanes> CrazyTux, no worries, just requires boots on ground to fix things on ground
[06:03] <zhou_xingyu> newcoder, most of all is same
[06:03] <Phanes> turista, youve got a usb port that you want to use as a transport relay, you need application-layer support for that
[06:03] <CrazyTux> anyway, thanks for the help. See you later.
[06:03] <Phanes> np
[06:04] <wafflejock> Phanes, looks like FHS 2.3 based on the ubuntu-policy package in 16.04
[06:04] <turista> but I though that was enough to enable the options in the phone
[06:04] <Phanes> wafflejock, thanks
[06:04] <wafflejock> Phanes, no prob some clues here http://askubuntu.com/questions/187019/which-filesystem-hierarchy-standard-is-in-ubuntu
[06:04] <Phanes> wafflejock, im assuming lsb is way off too even for optional distro packages
[06:06] <ItalianBread> hey guys! Quick question
[06:07] <Phanes> turista, check this out: https://www.howtoforge.com/using-an-android-smartphone-as-a-wlan-hotspot
[06:07] <Phanes> looks like it's got some features
[06:07] <Phanes> but this is offtopic
[06:07] <ItalianBread> My PC is powered by an NVIDIA GTX 1050 Mini, by ZOTAC. How do I know which NVIDIA driver to download?
[06:07] <Phanes> you should be in #android
[06:07] <turista> thx by the link, gonna check it out
[06:08] <ItalianBread> Any help on figuring this out?
[06:08] <Phanes> ItalianBread, http://www.geforce.com/drivers
[06:08] <Phanes> it literally tells you
[06:09] <ItalianBread> Oh, okay. Last time I did this, I did it through terminal, and it screwed up the OS, making me reinstall it. Luckily I'm new to this so I had nothing to lose, haha
[06:10] <Phanes> ItalianBread, you'll do that a hundred times before you're competent with less-than-browsing management of your system
[06:10] <Phanes> ItalianBread, if you want to make that less times
[06:10] <Phanes> read the docs
[06:10] <Phanes> or ask
[06:11] <Phanes> and fix it
[06:11] <Phanes> when you break it
[06:11] <ItalianBread> I don't have anything against Linux, lol. I purposely downloaded Ubuntu 16.04 as a dual boot system with Windows 10 to tinker with it :)
[06:12] <Phanes> i dont know what youre really trying to say
[06:12] <ItalianBread> I dual booted Ubuntu with Windows 10. That was because I wanted to learn about Linux, so I'm fine with reinstalling it a few times
[06:13] <ItalianBread> I had a 2TB Hard Drive anyway, might as well put it to some use.
[06:13] <Phanes> you'll lose your windows install a few times that way
[06:13] <ItalianBread> Nah, I still have it on me xD
[06:14] <ItalianBread> dual booting allocates 2 partitions so that your other OS stays unscratched
[06:14] <Phanes> that's nice.  make sure and let everyone know you were warned when you bork your bootloader or misclick in the installer and overwrite data
[06:14] <Phanes> you will
[06:14] <Phanes> use separate disks not partitions, you'll thank me
[06:15] <ItalianBread> jeez, such a downer xD this is a secondary OS. I'm not going to be using it nearly as much. And yeah, I'm planning on getting one of those soon
[06:15] <ItalianBread> I have enough money to actually make a secondary server, so I should be able to work on that soon.
[06:16] <Phanes> not doubting your diligence
[06:16] <ItalianBread> anyway, thanks Phanes. I'll make sure to stay more careful later on about this.
[06:16] <Phanes> it's just something everyone does when they come into it
[06:16] <nedstark> i dual boot on multiple pc's and my mbr rarely gets overwritten except for major windows updates and on macs. this bootable iso can usually restore grub on windows pc's https://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/
[06:17] <ItalianBread> yep, thanks for the advice.
[06:18] <ItalianBread> now that I have the driver installer downloaded, do I just double click the .run file?
[06:19] <Phanes> no, next is reading the docs
[06:19] <Phanes> dont take driver blobs lightly
[06:19] <macbox> :quit
[06:20] <Phanes> ItalianBread, the driver is actually a kernel module so it warrants that level of care
[06:20] <ItalianBread> what do you mean?
[06:20] <Phanes> i mean read the install instructions
[06:21] <yourname2> :quit
[06:21] <wafflejock> ItalianBread, it's generally advisable to use the additional drivers dialog for installing the drivers or switching between the open source and closed source driver, if you install from a .run file it's outside the scope of what people will support here since it's software outside the repos
[06:22] <wafflejock> ItalianBread, if you are missing something by not having the proprietary drivers on the latest version then you have to deal with installing and uninstalling .run files based on whoever you get them from
[06:22] <Phanes> im surprised its not supported if it's supplied by the same vendor as the card, but fair enough
[06:23] <Phanes> the package should just be a bundled copy of the binary provided by nvidia, if it's not i'd like to know
[06:23] <ItalianBread> I'm pretty sure it is
[06:23] <wafflejock> ItalianBread, the stuff that comes from the Ubuntu repos is tested by canonical everything else is basically outside the bounds of their support, PPAs or anyone else bundling software can't really be "trusted"
[06:23] <Phanes> what an odd claim
[06:24] <ItalianBread> okay, so what's my next step, then? I'm so confused at this moment
[06:24] <nedstark> if you trust nvidia enough to run their card's firmware, then using their proprietary driver off their website isn't that big of a leap
[06:24] <wafflejock> Phanes, well say someone installs some new version of gtk packages by some third party but now things depending on that break because of something malicious or just plain faulty in that code that was never tested with other packages
[06:24] <Phanes> an nvidia-provided driver has a shorter chain of custody than an ubuntu-provided copy of that same driver, i never understood it (not arguing, just interested in the philosophy there)
[06:25] <wafflejock> I'm not saying you shouldn't trust them or should trust the repository copy of some closed source software but can't expect canonical to offer support for third party software really either
[06:25] <ItalianBread> and can you maybe make this easier to understand? I'm still as new as can be to Linux, so, I'm sorry if I'm making this tedious.
[06:26] <Phanes> meh.  i dont really see the diff between that and putting specialized ports on a laptop that can only be bought by the vendor of the laptop
[06:26] <nedstark> nvidia has support chat linked on their website, they support their cards
[06:26] <wafflejock> ItalianBread, no worries I'm just telling you if you come here with some PPAs installed and ask for support or install a binary from somewhere else you'll be hard pressed to get support in here
[06:27] <ItalianBread> well, wafflejock, all I have so far is the .run file from the nvidia website.
[06:27] <ItalianBread> is there a way to check whether the drivers are already installed by any chance?
[06:27] <wafflejock> ItalianBread, yeah right now you can go to the launcher and type additional drivers, launch that gui and see what version of the driver you could just switch to in there
[06:28] <ItalianBread> one unknown driver shows up
[06:29] <ItalianBread> "Unknown device" "This device is not working" "Using processor microcode for AMD CPUs from amd64-microcode (proprietary)"
[06:31] <tatertots> ItalianBread: hi i don't have as much patience as i used to, install inxi, it can be found in ubuntu official repositories making it easy to find, and easy to download using your favorite method, just let me know once you have inxi installed
[06:31] <wafflejock> ItalianBread, that just means proprietary drivers aren't loaded for that device but surprised you don't see your gpu there as well
[06:31] <ItalianBread> I'm just as surprised
[06:31] <wafflejock> ItalianBread, you can run lspci -v, to show your devices and the kernel module loaded
[06:31] <kostkon> ItalianBread, I'm guessing you have a optimus laptop and you are currently using your intel card
[06:32] <ItalianBread> it's a prebuilt on steroids
[06:32] <ItalianBread> HP Pavilion 500-164 with a GTX 1050, new PSU and case
[06:33] <nedstark> you need the nvidia-375 driver
[06:34] <wafflejock> ItalianBread, for each device there will typically be a kernel module loaded which is similar to the drivers in Windows, the open source one for nvidia is called nouveau, there are packages for the proprietary ones in the repo... what nedstark said
[06:34] <nedstark> this explains how http://tipsonubuntu.com/2016/10/21/nvidia-375-10-linux-driver-adds-nvidia-1050-gpus-support/
[06:34] <ItalianBread> I see 2 things referring to my GPU. The VGA Controller, and the audio device. @ wafflejock
[06:35] <ItalianBread> And yeah, I have the .run file for version 375, wafflejock
[06:35] <tatertots> ItalianBread: ok well don't say nobody in #ubuntu tried to make your life easier....take care and good luck
[06:36] <ItalianBread> who said they haven't helped me
[06:36] <ItalianBread> had it not been for them, I would have quit tinkering with ubuntu a looong time ago
[06:36] <VulcanJedi> nedstark: i just got here, but in case I need to check out that link, why would one need version 375 instead of 367 through ppa?
[06:36] <ItalianBread> so, using a PPA would be easier? that's what I did last time but it didn't work out exceptionally
[06:37] <nedstark> VulcanJedi, i'm just finding multiple guides saying 375 for that card
[06:38] <nedstark> here's another http://sourcedigit.com/21181-install-nvidia-375-10-linux-graphics-driver-on-ubuntu-systems/
[06:38] <wafflejock> ItalianBread, you can do, apt-cache search nvidia*, to see what packages are available from the repos on your current version
[06:39] <Phanes> make sure to keep an abacus near you in case you lose your wya
[06:39] <Phanes> *way
[06:39] <mozammel> Hi, Looking for help, I try to install LBP2900 driver and try to make it work with my ubuntu 16.10,  I try cndrvcups-common-2.70-1 & cndrvcups-capt-2.70-1 deriver also i did try one modified driver, in all case I can add printer but cant print. any help will be highly appriciated.
[06:39] <ItalianBread> I see a bunch of different packages
[06:40] <VulcanJedi> is there a keystroke to bring up terminal?
[06:40] <Phanes> VulcanJedi, ctrl + alt + Fkey
[06:41] <Phanes> lol.  taking bets as to whether he's frantically hitting keys to get back to X
[06:41] <wafflejock> ItalianBread, this site is helpful as well to search packages http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nvidia&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all yeah there is an nvidia-current package but says it's basically the 304 driver http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/nvidia-current-updates you may want to try something newer if you see one listed or go with that one or try your luck with the .run file (if you choose but not my advice
[06:41] <wafflejock> :) )
[06:42] <ItalianBread> this is what my terminal shows https://paste.ubuntu.com/23796709/
[06:43] <Phanes> what version do the docs for the driver say
[06:44] <Phanes> emphasis on previous words: docs for the driver
[06:45] <ItalianBread> Phanes, it says 375.26 on the Zotac website
[06:45] <Phanes> as in docs im referring to mfg-provided docs for your gfx card
[06:46] <Phanes> there ya go
[06:46] <ItalianBread> https://www.zotac.com/files/download/by_product?p_nid=606268&driver_type=All&os=All
[06:46] <Phanes> you have answered your question
[06:46] <ItalianBread> okay, so...I have that exact version as a .run file
[06:46] <ItalianBread> do that or through PPA?
[06:47] <Phanes> you also have it in the apt=cache command
[06:47] <Phanes> so install what's in the repo
[06:48] <Phanes> apt-get install nvidia-367 nvidia-467-dev
[06:48] <VulcanJedi1> ok, if i go into command line (not terminal, thank you) by hitting alt+ctl+Fkey, how do I get back to the desktop?
[06:48] <Phanes> VulcanJedi1, depends on the distro, not sure for ubuntu
[06:48] <Phanes> check inittab if they still use that ( i honestly dont know )
[06:48] <wafflejock> VulcanJedi, try ctrl+alt+f2 or f7
[06:49] <lurker> hello, just installed lubuntu with a win10 box. I have no grub. I did disable fast boot and hibernate in win10 prior to install. No install errors. I have googled and found "bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi" to be a possible solution, however, some people reported problems regargarding this. Any advice? or a direction to look? The test drive of the install worked great ie: video , sound, touchpad. Thanks.
[06:49] <VulcanJedi1> those are just ways to run command line in parrallel
[06:49] <wafflejock> VulcanJedi, you on 16.04?
[06:49] <VulcanJedi1> yessir
[06:50] <VulcanJedi1> i'd like to get back to my first session
[06:50] <Phanes> if youre looking for a vte thats a wm-specific thing
[06:50] <wafflejock> hrm yeah it was always F7 for before 16.04 when things switched to systemd but not sure how it works now was F2 last time I tried :)
[06:50] <nedstark> this bootable iso can usually restore grub on windows pc's https://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/
[06:51] <VulcanJedi> wafflejock: it is F7, must be the only F key I didn't try
[06:51] <ItalianBread> Okay so I tried to run the .run file through chmod +x
[06:51] <Phanes> we need to stop telling people to dualboot on single-disk systems without informing them of the risks
[06:51] <ItalianBread> it says that my X server appears to be running
[06:51] <ItalianBread> ?
[06:51] <nedstark> we aren't, they're coming here with dual boot systems
[06:51] <Phanes> i know you aren't
[06:52] <Phanes> im talking about all those terrible guides
[06:52] <Phanes> ItalianBread, yes your
[06:52] <Phanes> X is running
[06:52] <lurker> nedstark: thanks I'll have a look.
[06:52] <Phanes> that's your graphical display
[06:53] <Phanes> ItalianBread, you'll need to change unit targets to a single user mode
[06:53] <VulcanJedi> now, is there a keystroke for the default terminal emulator?
[06:53] <ItalianBread> how do I do that?
[06:53] <Phanes> VulcanJedi, depends on the wm
[06:53] <VulcanJedi> wm?
[06:53] <Phanes> ItalianBread, google "xenial systemd single user mode"
[06:54] <ItalianBread> alright, thanks Phanes
[06:54] <Phanes> ItalianBread, have a second PC for your irc connection when you start trying to do that
[06:55] <ItalianBread> I really should haha
[06:55] <Phanes> im going to bed though
[06:55] <ItalianBread> alright
[06:55] <ItalianBread> I'll also hold off this problem till tomorrow
[06:56] <ItalianBread> It's not too much of my concern
[06:56] <ItalianBread> goodnight!
[06:57] <ItalianBread> and thanks for giving me essentially everything that I needed to know xD
[06:57] <Phanes> just enough to hate me
[06:57] <Phanes> X is the hardest part of the whole system
[06:58] <tatertots> he left dood
[06:58] <Phanes> oh
[06:58] <tatertots> u can stop now
[06:58] <Phanes> wut
[06:58] <Phanes> i can do whatever i feel like doing
[06:58]  * Phanes flips dem tatertots 
[07:03] <sector327> .
[07:06] <sector327> Hey are any canonical employees online? Have a question about benefits I'm looking at
[07:13] <dax> sector327: they don't really hang out here. assuming you mean support contract stuff, https://www.ubuntu.com/support/contact-us is your best bet if you don't have one already
[07:13] <dax> (if you do i think they give you a contact person, but not 100% sure)
[07:14] <sector327> thanks dax. was actually considering applying to work at canonical. I see on glassdoor a review that says you provide your own laptop
[07:14] <sector327> seems weird
[07:14] <dax> oh, employment benefits, right
[07:15] <sector327> I've never heard of a company where you supply your own computer. (not the end of the world, but odd)
[07:15] <dax> it's slightly less weird when you consider that they tend to have remote-work employees from random countries
[07:16] <dax> #ubuntu-offtopic may have further opinions (since this isn't really tech support)
[07:16] <sector327> true
[07:24] <Morno> hello everyone! how are you all today? :) i just got fail2ban to work feels great! :D
[07:25] <sector327> congrats!
[07:26] <Morno> thanks :D on monday i begin work as a keep stuff alive at work :P so im gonna manage alot of linux stuff feels good :D
[07:40] <abhi_> hi
[07:40] <abhi_> just wanted to ask a few things
[07:41] <abhi_> I was going to download ubuntu
[07:41] <abhi_> When I reached the downloa page it showed me 16.04 release
[07:41] <abhi_> Why 17.04 was not shown
[07:41] <abhi_> please help me
[07:42] <EriC^^> abhi_: 17.04 isn't released yet
[07:42] <abhi_> you sure ?
[07:42] <abhi_> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[07:42] <EriC^^> there's 16.04 and 16.10, 16.04 is the lts version
[07:42] <abhi_> what is this then
[07:42] <sector327> 17.04 means 2017, 4th month
[07:42] <EriC^^> abhi_: that's the daily image, it's the development version
[07:43] <abhi_> ohkay
[07:43] <EriC^^> ^ yeah it'll be released in april
[07:43] <abhi_> so for dailyuse I need 16.04 or 16.10
[07:43] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:44] <abhi_> 16.04 or 16.10 which one to use ?
[07:44] <EriC^^> i'd go for 16.04
[07:44] <abhi_> what's different in .10 ?
[07:45] <EriC^^> newer packages, it stops getting supported in 7months time though
[07:45] <EriC^^> so you'd need to upgrade to 17.04 when that comes out then 17.10 etc
[07:47] <tatertots> why isn't ubuntu version 20.04 listed on ubuntu.com yet?
[07:50] <baizon> tatertots: why should it?
[08:03] <atmosx> hello, scripts in /etc/cron.hourly are executed with admin permissions?
[08:03] <atmosx> I think they do, but can't find any docs
[08:13] <tested> hi
[08:13] <tested> anyone uses ubuntu gnome?
[08:15] <tested> i want to move min, maxi, close button to app window not in title bar
[08:15] <tested> in windows they're in app window not in titlebar
[08:16] <tested> they're right side of file open edit menu
[08:17] <tested> pixal savor help a little but i want it app not in top bar
[08:20] <tested> anyone?
[08:21] <tested> i need to switch to cinnamon?
[08:57] <zherlock> I am running virtualbox on ubuntu. I added a isc-dhcp to listen on vboxnet0 host only IF by adding IP to it. When I reboot however things brake, no more vboxnet0 interface until I remove net config in ifup, edit network settings in virtualbox GUI and recreating host only vboxnet0 IF. Then I get the vboxnet0 without IP on it again
[09:08] <tatertots> zherlock: have you tried creating a new vboxnet# interface and configuring the routing to meet your needs or requirements?
[09:09] <zherlock> tatertots: I guess what I lack is understanding the relation between host only interface config in virtualbox and os level.
[09:09] <zherlock> If I create vboxnet0 with IP in virtualbox, no IP is seen set on it on OS level and I can not start isc dhcp server to listen to it
[09:10] <zherlock> Maybe I should create a new interface on OS level and have vms use that as a regular interface rather than host only?
[09:10] <zherlock> How do I go about doing that? I need to have the interface being there virtually first
[09:11] <bum> What's system image
[09:11] <zherlock> create an alias to localhost IF?
[09:11] <EriC^^> bum: in what context?
[09:11] <bum> Os
[09:11] <bum> EriC^^:
[09:12] <EriC^^> bum: what's the complete sentence?
[09:12] <EriC^^> it could be maybe a backup of the OS or maybe the kernel?
[09:12] <bum> What's system image of os?
[09:12] <bum> Kernel?
[09:12] <EriC^^> backup of the OS i guess
[09:12] <bum> What does it mean?
[09:12] <EriC^^> no idea
[09:12] <EriC^^> not enough info
[09:12] <tatertots> zherlock: open terminal
[09:13] <bum> What is the file format of system image?
[09:13] <bum> Is it .exe or .ISO?
[09:13] <tatertots> zherlock:  vboxmanage list --long vms|nc termbin.com 9999
[09:13] <tatertots> zherlock: press enter
[09:13] <bum> Or something else
[09:13] <tatertots> zherlock: share url/link here
[09:13] <k1l> bum: can you give more context?
[09:14] <k1l> bum: do you mean the install image for ubuntu? that is .iso.
[09:14] <bum> k1l:  can you ask specific query? So I can inform. I am not good with technical or English
[09:14] <bum> Let's put a case
[09:14] <bum> I have pc installed with Windows os
[09:15] <maxx> hello how to fix this - http://dpaste.com/3A8PNN3  using  Ubuntu 16.04 xenial xfce.. not able to apt-get upgrade
[09:15] <bum> There's feature of system image
[09:15] <EriC^^> bum: you want to backup the OS?
[09:15] <k1l> maxx: run a "sudo apt update" first
[09:15] <EriC^^> so you can clone it back at any time or to another hdd same size?
[09:15] <bum> When I create system image ; it will be saved into USB drive
[09:15] <maxx> k1l, yes i did
[09:15] <bum> EriC^^:  yes system image of os
[09:16] <maxx> k1l, its same as sudo apt-get update i guess ?
[09:16] <EriC^^> bum: it'll be a file that is the exact contents of the hdd, like a hdd on file
[09:16] <k1l> maxx: yes, apt is the new apt-get
[09:16] <bum> EriC^^: it will help in case if os is crashed in future
[09:16] <EriC^^> bum: the "file format" doesn't exist
[09:16] <maxx> k1l, ah ok. so i did ran it first
[09:16] <bum> Er
[09:16] <k1l> maxx: look at the system settings -> software and updates. then look if the security repos are enabled
[09:16] <bum> EriC^^:  why no file format?
[09:16] <EriC^^> bum: it will be like a snapshot of the OS when you made the image
[09:17] <bum> Can such back up os system image be fed to virtual box?
[09:17] <EriC^^> bum: because it's an image of the hdd itself, it has a mbr and partition table etc
[09:17] <apestate> i mounted an .img in /mnt/ now i want it umounted
[09:17] <bum> Or qemu?
[09:17] <apestate> umount -d just gave me a help listing
[09:17] <apestate> did i break it
[09:17] <k1l> apestate: sudo umount /mnt/
[09:17] <EriC^^> bum: yeah, you can load it in virtualbox and it will boot if you cloned the whole hdd
[09:17] <apestate> gotcha
[09:17] <apestate> yayyy
[09:17] <apestate> thank u
[09:18] <bum> EriC^^:  when I try to open that USB drive it gave me an error
[09:18] <bum> Why?
[09:18] <apestate> freedos 1.2 is out
[09:18] <EriC^^> bum: what usb drive?
[09:18] <k1l> maxx: if that is already enabled please put the output of "sudo apt update" into a pastebin and show it here please
[09:18] <bum> USB drive which contain system image of os
[09:18] <EriC^^> bum: of ubuntu?
[09:19] <bum> Windows
[09:19] <k1l> bum: i guess you have to ask ##windows for that windows support.
[09:19] <EriC^^> i've no idea how windows does it
[09:19] <EriC^^> what k1l said
[09:20] <maxx> k1l, http://dpaste.com/1DQH7VJ
[09:20] <EriC^^> bum: it might not clone the hdd, it possibly makes a file it can use to restore stuff
[09:20] <k1l> maxx: hmm. please show a "apt-cache policy linux-headers-generic"
[09:21] <maxx> k1l, if i change server i get this "E:The package linux-headers-4.4.0-59-generic needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it." ok showing just a sec
[09:21] <ghost778> anyone who could help me on c++ graphics?
[09:21] <maxx> k1l, here http://dpaste.com/32FK7TG
[09:21] <EriC^^> ghost778: /join #c++
[09:22] <k1l> maxx: hmm.
[09:22] <k1l> maxx: hmm. please show a "apt-cache policy linux-generic"
[09:22] <zherlock> I added a upstart job in /etc/init/.. it is not being run at boot (run at startup in header). WHen I after boot do "start <thejob>" it starts and does what it should. Suggestions what I have forgotten or done wrong?
[09:23] <maxx> k1l, http://dpaste.com/04E7VR5
[09:23] <k1l> maxx: policy should link to 4.4.0.59.62 500 from 500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main amd64 Packages
[09:24] <k1l> maxx: did you just install that ubuntu? is this a desktop?
[09:25] <maxx> k1l, this is an old installed. installed few months back.. inside virtualbox
[09:25] <k1l> maxx: i would try a "sudo apt-get -f install" now. and see if that helps to resolve the issue.
[09:25] <zherlock> tatertots: Looks like when I start a vm first, I do get vboxnet0 and IP on it and thereafter I can start dhcp server on it
[09:25] <maxx> i tried to update it today and ran into these problems
[09:25] <maxx> k1l, ok
[09:26] <maxx> k1l, i get this "E: The package linux-headers-4.4.0-59-generic needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it." for sudo apt-get -f install
[09:26] <cuddle> can someone suggest a music streamin app for ubuntu that is lightweight
[09:26] <k1l> maxx: but i still dont get why its linking to those mixed dependencies. especially not listening the security repo updates in the policy
[09:27] <cuddle> that either streams icloud or youtube
[09:27] <k1l> maxx: is that a desktop? or server install? did you install some .deb packages manually?
[09:28] <maxx> k1l, its a desktop installed in virtualbox.. no i did not install from any .deb packages manually
[09:28] <k1l> maxx: i really strange, that it doesnt list any repo at those apt-cache policy outputs you showed
[09:29] <maxx> k1l,  oh
[09:29] <k1l> maxx: that is what it looks like for my 16.04 install http://termbin.com/5s3w
[09:30] <k1l> maxx: can you try to change to the main servers in system-settings -> software and updates
[09:30] <maxx> k1l, can you show in some other paste site. termbin is banned here
[09:30] <k1l> maxx: http://dpaste.com/26TEJXC
[09:31] <maxx> k1l, yes i have chose main server
[09:31] <k1l> then please run sudo apt update again
[09:31] <k1l> (the paste you showed had the us servers in use)
[09:32] <maxx> k1l, yeah i chose it as soon as i got problems yeah trying to run apt update again
[09:33] <maxx> k1l, my current apt update- http://dpaste.com/1JJ7M1X
[09:36] <k1l> maxx: "apt-cache policy linux-headers-generic" and see if that changed to the output before
[09:37] <maxx> k1l, yes it has changed now to this - http://dpaste.com/1H0GRHP
[09:37] <k1l> maxx: now run "sudo apt full-upgrade"
[09:38] <k1l> maxx: seems like that is a 32bit install and the mirror you were using didnt have 32bit packages.
[09:38] <maxx> k1l, linux-generic : Depends: linux-headers-generic (= 4.4.0.59.62) but 4.4.0.57.60 is installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[09:38] <maxx> k1l, yes its a 32bit install
[09:41] <chosig> Hehe, did the Ubuntu-Mate automated "no hand" install, ended up with a 6.4Gb / and 17GB swap and 1TB /home
[09:41] <k1l> maxx: sudo apt install --reinstall linux-headers-generic
[09:42] <allaga> hello guys)))
[09:46] <maxx> k1l, yeah doing it. dont know why the progress is stuck at 7 %
[09:46] <maxx> phew
[09:47] <maxx> finally it progressed :D
[09:48] <maxx> k1l, its done. should i now run "sudo apt full-upgrade" ?
[09:48] <k1l> yes
[09:48] <resc_040b11_2593> hi, someone here who would like to help?
[09:49] <resc_040b11_2593>  i am not able to boot windows. i have it in the boot menu but when i choose it, it tells me to repair with wind7dvd. but this does not work at all
[09:53] <zherlock> Thanks for rubberduck / help all in here. I got it all working by simply doing a rc.local for now to start everything :)
[10:03] <maxx> k1l, upgrade done. thank you :)
[10:03] <k1l> maxx: np
[10:15] <marekw2143> helllo
[10:16] <marekw2143> I've got a laptop with touchpad, and while typing on the keyboard my hands are on touchpad
[10:16] <marekw2143> and then mouse pointer moves - I've heard there are some tools to activate touchpad after some time of not typing on keyboard
[10:17] <marekw2143> do you kow of any?
[10:21] <busylittlebee> hi
[10:21] <busylittlebee> how do i use rxvt font name
[10:22] <busylittlebee> where is the files for legal names
[10:22] <wafflejock> marekw2143, you can modify the sensitivity typically or turn on palm detection on many touchpads
[10:22] <wafflejock> marekw2143, are you familiar with the terminal?
[10:22] <busylittlebee> i use terminus i did xft:terminus:size=20 but it's an error?
[10:22] <busylittlebee> so what's the actual name/?
[10:23] <marekw2143> wafflejock, a bit
[10:24] <marekw2143> wafflejock, I've just found answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/773595/how-can-i-disable-touchpad-while-typing-on-ubuntu-16-04-syndaemon-isnt-working
[10:24] <marekw2143> ;)
[10:24] <busylittlebee> hello? guys is do you want t oclarify??
[10:25] <busylittlebee> for termius and other fonts what are the exact names allowed even a small letter vs a  capital lletter can make a big difference , so where can i see the fonts anf their official names?
[10:25] <wafflejock> marekw2143, cool yeah those look like decent options one of them suggests xinput if you use that can list all the options and adjust things https://stevenkohlmeyer.com/fixing-palm-detect-ubuntu-14-04/ shows some steps to do that and setup a startup script
[10:28] <wafflejock> busylittlebee, fc-list according to http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14186428/how-to-get-a-valid-font-name-on-linux-system-which-can-be-used-in-xresources-co
[10:29] <black> :wc
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> busylittlebee  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[10:46] <samratulangi> hello
[10:46] <samratulangi> i want to ask something, can you help me?
[10:46] <popey> !ask
[10:46] <samratulangi>  i accidentally change password in etc/mysql/debian.cnf , and now i've got an error when install phpmyadmin
[10:47] <samratulangi> that made me stuck : After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. Setting up phpmyadmin (4:4.6.3-1) ... Determining localhost credentials from /etc/mysql/debian.cnf: succeeded. dbconfig-common: writing config to /etc/dbconfig-common/phpmyadmin.conf granting access to database phpmyadmin for phpmyadmin@localhost: already exists. creating database phpmyadmin: already exists. populating database via sql...  error
[10:48] <samratulangi> is that forum can help begineer like me?
[10:48] <samratulangi> :(
[10:50] <samratulangi> "linux for human being" >> just a motto :(
[11:09] <selvodka> need help http://i.imgur.com/klso0zX.jpg
[11:10] <selkvodka> need help pls http://i.imgur.com/klso0zX.jpg
[11:11] <selkvodka> should just do a clean install ?
[11:13] <drvanon> I tried to install a newly written service on systemd but now when I run: sudo systemd I get "Trying to run as user instance, but $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set." and when I use sudo systemd <anything at all> I get the error: Excess arguments.
[11:14] <popey> selkvodka: looks like either sata cable or hard drive failure
[11:15] <selkvodka> popey, so a clean install ?
[11:17] <selkvodka> i am able to login tty1
[11:21] <akhilq> hi anone help me to connect raspberrypi to ubuntu with out router
[11:22] <ikonia> akhilq: should just work, however, you may need a cross-over ethernet cable if your network cards don't handle the cross-over
[11:22] <selkvodka> ikonia, should a clean install work http://i.imgur.com/klso0zX.jpg
[11:23] <ikonia> selkvodka: ?
[11:23] <selkvodka> how to fix it ?
[11:23] <ikonia> selkvodka: fix what ? sorry I'm missing context
[11:23] <akhilq> hi  ikonia i have cross over ethernet cable in my hand
[11:23] <ikonia> you've just asked "should a clean install work"
[11:23] <ikonia> akhilq: that useful
[11:23] <selkvodka> http://i.imgur.com/klso0zX.jpg
[11:23] <ikonia> akhilq: try it without first
[11:24] <ikonia> selkvodka: that looks like a failig hard disk or the controller it sits on
[11:24] <selkvodka> so ?
[11:24] <ikonia> selkvodka: so what ?
[11:24] <akhilq>  cat /var/lib/misc/dnsmasq.leases this command returns some hexa decimal numbers
[11:24] <ikonia> selkvodka: sorry, I may bemissing part of the context here
[11:25] <selkvodka> formating should work ?
[11:25] <ikonia> selkvodka: not if it's failing
[11:25] <selkvodka> but it could ?
[11:25] <selkvodka> i am able to login tty1
[11:25] <ikonia> selkvodka: no
[11:25] <ikonia> selkvodka: not if it's failing
[11:25] <akhilq>  cat /var/lib/misc/dnsmasq.leases this command returns some hexa decimal numbers
[11:25] <ubuntu-studio> hi
[11:26] <vin1> hi
[11:26] <ikonia> akhilq: why are oyu doing that ?
[11:26] <akhilq> to find ip address
[11:26] <ikonia> akhilq: you don't need to find one
[11:26] <ikonia> akhilq: it's point to point, not on a network
[11:26] <ikonia> akhilq: just set an IP on one, and the IP+1 on the other
[11:26] <akhilq> ok
[11:27] <akhilq> sorry i am a begginner to bo please th pi and linux tell me how
[11:28] <ikonia> akhilq: so just assign a network address (for example 192.168.24.10) to one device, then assign the next one up, (192.168.24.11) to the other device
[11:28] <ikonia> akhilq: if you are just connecting them with a cable, they should see each other
[11:28] <akhilq> ok
[11:28] <ubuntu-studio> ubuntu live flash drive is lagging af when i boot it in persistent mode is there a way to fix this?
[11:29] <akhilq> if i need to find ip address of raspberry pi how i do that?
[11:29] <ikonia> akhilq: you set it
[11:30] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-studio, do a proper install to the HDD
[11:30] <akhilq> ok
[11:30] <ikonia> akhilq: you don't need to "find it"
 thanks am trying
[11:34] <ubuntu> Is it possible to run the latest unity on 16.04 LTS?
[11:34] <cfhowlett> !lastest | ubuntu-studio
[11:35] <dudeji> can i use genome 3 in ubuntu 16.04 LTS ? is it stable with 16.04?
[11:35] <EriC^^> !ping
[11:35] <wafflejock> !latest
[11:35] <cfhowlett> !newest | ubuntu
[11:35] <EriC^^> dudeji: yes
[11:35] <Guest91285> how is this an answer?
[11:36] <ikonia> Guest91285: I'll give you a clearer answer
[11:36] <cfhowlett> "yes"
[11:36] <ubuntu-studio> cfhowlett installation to hdd this is not an option for me for some reasons at the moment, i have 8gb ddr3 ram and a intel i5 are there some boot options that could fix the lag?
[11:37] <ikonia> Guest91285: Ubuntu only ships packages that it considers stable and supportable, while you can get packages or manual builds elsewhere to run any version you want or have the skill to build, there is no promise of compatability or stability on your ubuntu host
[11:37] <cfhowlett> ubuntu-studio, first option: lighten the load.  unity is a hungry beast.  install lxde or xfce4 and use that instead
[11:37] <Guest91285> ikonia: i have added ppa for my ati radeon card that solved my tearing issues but I have nto found a ppa that has the unity updates
[11:38] <ikonia> Guest91285: re-read what I said
[11:38] <dudeji> after installing genome , does all  programs installed in system be available there also ?"
[11:38] <ikonia> dudeji: gnome is just the desktop
[11:38] <Guest91285> ikonia: i read it - so ppa's are not supported here?
[11:38] <cfhowlett> !ppa | Guest91285
[11:39] <ikonia> Guest91285: no, they are supported by the PPA owners/maintainers
[11:39] <wafflejock> dudeji, you can get Ubuntu Gnome or you can install gnome desktop environment along side other desktop environments
[11:39] <Guest91285> what happend to the straightforward answers, gosh who is going to read that much?
[11:39] <Guest91285> alright thanks ikonia
[11:40] <ikonia> Guest91285: it's important you understand about the software sources you are using, thats why it's a few lines of text
[11:40] <dudeji> i think genome look cool than unity :p thats why i want to install
[11:40] <wafflejock> thought it was pretty concise ikonia :)
[11:44] <borabora> haaayt
[11:44] <xchris> yawn
[11:45] <ubuntu-studio> can i use the "toram" option together with persistent mode?
[11:51] <dudeji> any theme which gives transparent look in ubuntu
[11:51] <ikonia> dudeji: it's key to be clear "theme for what" as there are many components that make up a desktop
[11:51] <k1l> dudeji: look at gnome-look or such
[11:52] <k1l> !theme | dudeji
[11:52] <ikonia> dudeji: (I don't know of themes by the way, just for people ho may know it's important to know what they are looking for)
[11:52] <MeTaL_GuRu> hello
[11:52] <k1l> and yes, you need to look out for themes specific to you desktop in use.
[11:52] <dudeji> I am looking to impress my gf with some cool look in ubuntu she loves windows for no reason :p
[11:52] <FMan> lol
[11:53] <ikonia> dudeji: I"m not sure thats really going to help anything
[11:53] <FMan> make it really pretty with flowers and turn it pink
[11:53] <ikonia> dudeji: people can like windows because it works for them or is a better fit for their needs, a fancy theme won't make it more useable for someone else
[11:55] <dudeji> currently I am using unity 7 so if i install genome it should not affect any program installed in unity and they will be available both places correct ?
[11:55] <ikonia> dudeji: they will be available, there are very few components that are desktop specific
[11:57] <Dreaman> k1l btrfs more stable with ext4 i reinstall alpha ubuntu error and renstall 16.10
[11:57] <k1l> Dreaman: no. btrfs ist not more stable than ext4
[11:57] <glitchd> having trouble getting dvd decrypter to work correctly in wine, anyone have any advice?
[11:58] <Dreaman> ok
[11:58] <ikonia> glitchd: talk to the wine guys
[11:58] <ikonia> glitchd: they will know the situation/support of individual apps
[11:58] <k1l> Dreaman: and for ubuntu alpha/beta please use the #ubuntu+1 channel
[11:58] <Dreaman> k1l  i use and see
[11:59] <Dreaman> nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ inxi -F
[11:59] <Dreaman> System:    Host: ubuntu-ivan Kernel: 4.9.3-040903-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
[11:59] <Dreaman>            Desktop: Unity 7.5.0  Distro: Ubuntu 16.10
[11:59] <Dreaman> i use stable with new kernel
[12:00] <cfhowlett> dreaman please use pastebinit!
[12:00] <ikonia> Dreaman: not a good idea by default,
[12:00] <Dreaman> ok
[12:00] <yellow_viper> I'm trying to send mail via php using a wp plugin. I'm getting a message sent successfully. My logs say it's sent OK and accepted by the google server..But the mail isn't showing up? > http://pastebin.com/6uVdcA6f
[12:00] <glitchd> cfhowlett, would you by chance have any experience with dvd decrypter?
[12:01] <cfhowlett> glitchd, none, thus my silence.  talk to wine folk
[12:01] <glitchd> cfhowlett, alrighty, thx
[12:01] <ikonia> yellow_viper: so google would be the people you need to talk to
[12:02] <ikonia> yellow_viper: at that point it's left your ubuntu box and is in the google mail relay setup
[12:02] <yellow_viper> hmm :/
[12:02] <Dreaman> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23797688/  cfhowlett  :)
[12:24] <yellow_viper> How the hell do you publish google forms now?
[12:25] <cfhowlett> yellow_viper, supported and explained on ... google
[12:25] <yellow_viper> wat
[12:34] <nmbhjk> test
[12:34] <Sircle> How to run a command at ever boot? I want to do sudo chmod 777 /dev/kvm
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> Sircle  first, careful with 777
[12:35] <Sircle> MonkeyDust: ok
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> Sircle  anyone can do anything, also excluding you
[12:36] <yellow_viper> Sircle: chron job?
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> !cron
[12:36] <Sircle> yellow_viper:  how will I give sudo password to it?
[12:36] <yellow_viper> Sircle: http://askubuntu.com/questions/173924/how-to-run-a-cron-job-using-the-sudo-command
[12:38] <guest112233> Hi. Any idea whay i can not open ubuntu software?
[12:38] <guest112233> i open it and it's closing directly
[12:39] <FMan> my guess is that it malfunctions somehow
[12:39] <yellow_viper> no way to publish google form publicly :/
[12:39] <yellow_viper> google makes some terrible design decisions
[12:39] <yellow_viper> inbox for example
[12:40] <guest112233> FMan, thank you m8. :)
[12:40] <FMan> you are welcome
[12:40] <cfhowlett> yellow_viper,  not an ubuntu issue and off-topic so please continue in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:40] <yellow_viper> chachasmooth: woops, sorry I thought this was my social channel.
[12:43] <vlt> Hello. I’m using Ubuntu and the MATE dektop. I wrote a script that works fine when executed from a terminal window. How can I create a starter button on the desktop that will basically do the same?
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> vlt  you have to create a .desktop file
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> vlt  this is a basic .desktop file
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> vlt  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23797838/
[12:45] <vlt> MonkeyDust: I did: http://termbin.com/cla7
[12:46] <vlt> MonkeyDust: The problem is it behaves differently:
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> vlt  is it executable
[12:47] <vlt> Yes.
[12:47] <vlt> MonkeyDust: My script runs a vncserver. When run from terminal window manually, everything works fine,
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> vlt  there are twe 'Icon' lines in the file
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> two*
[12:49] <vlt> but run from that starter icon the vncserver session "looses" x-window-manager as soon as the script finishes.
[12:49] <vlt> MonkeyDust: That .desktop file was created by right click -> new starter ...
[12:50] <vlt> The second Icon line is for i18n, I guess.
[12:50] <vlt> But that doesn’t seem to be the problem here.
[12:50] <Sircle> MonkeyDust:  yellow_viper  thanks but crontab isnt just working>.. https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8963132
[12:50] <tomreyn> make the desktop file redirect your scripts' output to a file
[12:51] <xpheres> hello I'm tryingin to install a .deb program and the library libqt5core5a version 5.5 is missing
[12:51] <xpheres> last version I have is 5.4 and I can not update
[12:51] <vlt> tomreyn: How (and why)?
[12:51] <xpheres> how can I update the library?
[12:51] <Sircle> MonkeyDust:  yellow_viper  the ls -la is at bottom https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8963134
[12:52] <FMan> your cron probably doesn't have permission to chmod a file owned by root
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> Sircle  what FMan says, try   sudo crontab -e
[12:54] <Sircle> FMan:  the cronis is run by sudo crontab -e as mentioned on line 1 of my paste
[12:54] <Sircle> MonkeyDust:  ^
[12:54] <tomreyn> vlt: i don't understand what exactly you mean by "the vncserver session 'looses' x-window-manager", but since it behaves differently when you run it from a terminal and when you run it from the desktop file, it might be good to log the scripts' output to see whether there is any hint provided as to why it malfunctions.
[12:54] <xpheres> here is my screenshot: http://130.255.75.240/websites/myarchives/libqt.jpg
[12:54] <FMan> I think the actual cron job is run by user 'cron' or sth, and it is probably not in your sudoers...
[12:55] <xpheres> sorry it is in german but basically says my libqt5core is outdated
[12:55] <tomreyn> vlt, to redirect output of an example command "mycommand" to a file "/tmp/myfile", you run it as: mycommand &> /tmp/myfile
[12:55] <akis> hi all. i am running xubuntu 16.04.1 and i am using faenza icons for years (with earlier xubuntu distros). Is there any similar (faenza like) icons set available to be recommended?
[12:55] <FMan> have you done apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?
[12:55] <tomreyn> vlt: i.e. change the command you run in your desktop file accordingly.
[12:57] <MartinMaester> gfhgf
[12:57] <xpheres> can anyone remind my how was the command to install a deb file with missing dependencies?
[12:58] <tomreyn> vlt: assiming your default shell is bash, you may also want to add this as first line in your script to make it behave similar to your terminal: #!/bin/bash
[12:58] <tomreyn> xpheres: have you been told this is a bad thing to do, yet? and are you aware there are probably better ways to achieve the same?
[12:59] <xpheres> tomreyn I don't know how to solve it and that's why I'm asking
[12:59] <xpheres> I tried to search for the solution myself first
[12:59] <tomreyn> xpheres: what's the package you are trying to install, and which ubuntu version are you on?
[12:59] <xpheres> I just want to install a software and the dependencies are not fulfilled
[13:00] <xpheres> I'm trying to install polyphone 1.8 a soundfont editor
[13:00] <Sircle> FMan: MonkeyDust yellow_viper https://pastebin.mozil
[13:00] <xpheres> my ubuntu is
[13:01] <tomreyn> xpheres: lsb_release -sd
[13:01] <xpheres> Ubuntu 15.10 Release:	15.10 Codename:	wily
[13:01] <cfhowlett> !info polyphone
[13:01] <xpheres> mm
[13:01] <tomreyn> xpheres: this ubuntu verison is no longer supported, you need to upgrade
[13:01] <xpheres> I think I did upgrade recently
[13:01] <xpheres> ok
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> xpheres  your ubuntu version is dead
[13:01] <xpheres> sudo apt-get upgrade?
[13:01] <FMan> try a little harder with the pasting :)
[13:02] <cfhowlett> xpheres, 15.10 is dead and completely unsupported
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> Sircle  dead link
[13:02] <xpheres> ok
[13:02] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | xpheres,
[13:03] <Sircle> FMan: MonkeyDust yellow_viper  https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8963135
[13:03] <FMan> I missed the original, why do you have to use a cron to change file permissions?
[13:05] <FMan> maybe the permissions on /dev/kvm cannot be changed?
[13:05] <Sircle> FMan:  it auto rechanges . dont know why
[13:05] <FMan> well, I guess you could try to install Windows 10
[13:06] <FMan> maybe search the webs for the cause
[13:06] <FMan> sorry, I am unable to help
[13:16] <vlt> tomreyn: Thank you. I’ll try to add #!/bin/bash
[13:21] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:24] <k3asd`> hi BluesKaj
[13:25] <BluesKaj> hi k3asd`
[13:25] <marekw2143> hello
[13:26] <marekw2143> syndaemon, when ran as follows:
[13:26] <marekw2143> syndaemon -i 1.0 -d -K
[13:26] <marekw2143> then seems to work fine for some time, but after some some time touchpad is active whiile typing on keyboard
[13:27] <marekw2143> anyone can tel me why ?
[13:36] <TuxCrazy> can we install Cinnamon DE on Ubuntu?
[13:36] <cfhowlett> TuxCrazy, yes
[13:37] <TuxCrazy> great. Then, there is no need for Linux Mint.
[13:38] <TuxCrazy> Why there is no Cubuntu?
[13:38] <cfhowlett> TuxCrazy, ?
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> TuxCrazy  what's holding you to create it
[13:39] <ioria> http://www.cubuntu.fr/
[13:39] <BluesKaj> Cinnabuntu :-)
[13:39] <cfhowlett> cinnabonbuntu
[13:39] <TuxCrazy> I don't have that technical knowledge. I am just an end user.
[13:39] <TuxCrazy> BluesKaj, yes. Cinnabuntu.
[13:40] <oneQ> Hey guys, i got a question about the ubuntus "Dash" menu. Can i execute bash aliases with it?
[13:40] <TuxCrazy> what is Dash, btw?
[13:40] <EriC^^> oneQ: maybe from alt+f2
[13:40] <oneQ> the menu that pops up when tapping the super key
[13:41] <EriC^^> oneQ: nah
[13:41] <lucianoh> hey, is UEFI better than legacy?
[13:41] <cfhowlett> lucianoh, it's complicated
[13:41] <TuxCrazy> ok. I'm using Lubuntu. Only that can be run on my old laptop.
[13:41] <lucianoh> because if i boot with uefi it is grey the screen
[13:42] <lucianoh> but with legacy works well
[13:42] <cfhowlett> so ... problem solved then
[13:42] <ioria> oneQ, you can try with gmrun
[13:43] <BluesKaj> lucianoh, you didn't install grub to the uefi boot partition
[13:43] <lucianoh> blueskaj: how to do it?
[13:44] <BluesKaj> !uefi | lucianoh
[13:44] <BluesKaj> lucianoh, just use legacy. if you don't need several partitions
[13:45] <lucianoh> i have lots of partition
[13:45] <lucianoh> s
[13:45] <oneQ> ioria, i guess i could just write a script to run my alias and start it with alt+f2 right?
[13:46] <ioria> oneQ, not sure
[13:46] <ioria> oneQ,  it works in terminal
[13:46] <BluesKaj> one store your alias in bash_aliases and it will start when you login
[13:47] <EriC^^> oneQ: possibly, if you put the script in a place it picks it up
[13:47] <EriC^^> maybe it uses the standard $PATH so try /usr/local/bin
[13:47] <ioria> oneQ,  if you just want a 'quicker launche' then F2 you can try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23798027/  not aliase do not work
[13:48] <ioria> *tha
[13:52] <EriC^^> oneQ: yes it works if you put it in /usr/local/bin
[13:52] <oneQ> yes thanks guys
[13:54] <Nonato> Good afternoon I am with AD (AD) user authentication problem in the stations, the ubuntu in the station only let anything install with local admin users, could someone help me? I want ubuntu to allow AD admin users to also manage.
[13:55] <EriC^^> AD ?
[13:55] <Nonato> active diretory
[13:55] <EriC^^> isn't that a windows thing?
[13:57] <tatertots> Nonato: they will need to be in the sudoers file
[13:57] <TBotNik> All: Having MySQL issue. Write up at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5654815#post5654815 . Need to fix, so can continue my development.  All help appreciated!
[13:57] <Nonato> I do not know, when I try to install it it opens a window, and only the local users appear in it, even though I have logged in with an AD admin user
[13:57] <cipher6> Anyone who can offer assistance w  vim? vimtutor? (I know it's not an ubuntu specific thing, i"ll be glad to move it to a private chat)
[13:58] <ducasse> cipher6: why not try #vim?
[13:58] <tatertots> Nonato: do you have IT department for the MicrosoftAD side? maybe a help desk ?
[13:58] <cipher6> ducasse: I'm trying to learn vim, hence the vimtutor
[13:59] <l0llip0p> cipher6: good luck
[13:59] <cipher6> ducasse: Sorry i misunderstood, I've been to vim, their support is....lacking, for want of a nicer term
[13:59] <ducasse> cipher6: yes, #vim might be a good place to get advice on that
[14:00] <ducasse> cipher6: what do you need to know?
[14:01] <Nonato> tatertots, The Ad is on a Debian server, totally works, including, I have stations that have Windows, and when installing any program it asks for an admin user, I provide the administrator and it allows to install, already in the stations Ubuntu does not leave, just want to use the users Place.
[14:02] <cipher6> ducasse: vimtutor won't read my language file and display the vimtutor help info
[14:03] <cfhowlett> a question for #networking perhaps, Nonato
[14:03] <ducasse> Nonato: try #ubuntu-server
[14:03] <cfhowlett> +1 ^^
[14:04] <Nonato> I do not know if it is because sudoers did not map AD users
[14:04] <ducasse> cfhowlett: sounds like a localization issue, something i know almost nothing about. are there any error messages?
[14:05] <cfhowlett> Nonato, had the issue, not I ducasse
[14:05] <ducasse> cipher6: sounds like a localization issue, something i know almost nothing about. are there any error messages?
[14:05] <ducasse> cfhowlett: bad tab expand, sorry :)
[14:06] <cfhowlett> ducasse, *ithappens
[14:06] <Nonato> ducasse?
[14:07] <tatertots> Nonato: did you fix your /etc/sudoers file?
[14:10] <Nonato> tatertots, Sorry, but what kind of fix is made on sudoers?
[14:11] <cipher6> ducasse: it was literally a blank vi screen with the ~'s down the left side,
[14:11] <Nonato> tatertots, I think some msg went unperceived
[14:12] <cipher6> apparently vi =/= vim =/= vimtutor and to run vi correctly on ubuntu i had to run sudo apt-get vim-gtk
[14:14] <ducasse> cipher6: vim-gtk will give you a regular vim binary with more features than the normal one in addition to gvim, iirc
[14:17] <ducasse> cipher6: all i can tell you is that vimtutor seems to work here, if it fails with your locale i don't know what to suggest.
[14:20] <varazir> I have mounted a NFS share to folder /mnt/nfsshare , my problem is that I can open upp that folder as long as it's mounted (when I'm not root)
[14:29] <ducasse> !permissions | varazir
[14:30] <varazir> ducasse: as the folder ha sthe correct permissions before I mount the NFS I don't understand
[14:31] <ducasse> varazir: user ids on the server does not match user ids on the client, probably.
[14:31] <varazir> it's a NAS
[14:31] <varazir> the server
[14:31] <varazir> and I can't modify them
[14:32] <ducasse> varazir: then modify the permissions
[14:32] <varazir> ducasse: on what, I don't change them after I have mounted
[14:32] <varazir> I can't
[14:33] <ducasse> varazir: modify them on the server, or modify the user ids on the client to match
[14:33] <varazir> ducasse: can't as I said it's a NAS
[14:33] <varazir> well could see if I can temper with the id's on the client
[14:34] <tatertots> guess he has no administrative control over the NAS services
[14:34] <varazir> not on that level
[14:35] <ducasse> varazir: then you must modify the user ids on the client to match the server
[14:36] <varazir> if I understand the NAS right the id for the NAS user is 1
[14:36] <tatertots> varazir: how did you mount it?...did you mount it through the gui?
[14:36] <varazir> tatertots: added it to the fstab
[14:37] <varazir> tatertots: /mnt/music nfs rw,hard,intr,nolock 0 0
[14:39] <ducasse> varazir: if this is nfs4 you might also be able to use idmapd
[14:39] <tatertots> varazir: only root should be able to read/write to that
[14:39] <varazir> nsf4 yes
[14:40] <ducasse> no
[14:40] <varazir> nfs4
[14:40] <Guest70277> exit
[14:40] <varazir> good for you sir
[14:41] <varazir> ducasse: tatertots ?
[14:42] <humoroustwo> Hello
[14:42] <humoroustwo> I'm having an issue where network manager is showing 'wifi network device' not managed when I return from suspension
[14:43] <humoroustwo> *'wifi network device not managed'
[14:43] <humoroustwo> I'm on 16.10
[14:44] <BluesKaj> humoroustwo, try sudo dhclient
[14:45] <humoroustwo> "RTNETLINK answers: File exists
[14:45] <humoroustwo> "
[14:45] <humoroustwo> Disabling and reenabling networking fixes the isuse
[14:45] <humoroustwo> but obviously it's annoying to have to do that every time :)
[14:46] <BluesKaj> yeah, sudo systemctl start network-manager
[14:48] <humoroustwo> does that command just start the network manager?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:48] <humoroustwo> Does it restart it?
[14:49] <humoroustwo> also I've run it
[14:50] <BluesKaj> humoroustwo, use restart in place of start
[14:51] <gebruiker> what is the difference between Unity from yakkety vs that of xenial ?
[14:52] <humoroustwo> BluesKaj, is there a script that's run when the system resumes? I could add it to that if so
[14:52] <humoroustwo> may be a workaround :P
[14:53] <humoroustwo> sleep.d?
[14:54] <BluesKaj> gebruiker, your question is too general
[14:55] <gebruiker> BluesKaj: i just want to know if it is worth using yakkety for unity
[14:56] <BluesKaj> humoroustwo, put the above command in a textfile and add it to startup and shutdown if your desktop has such an option
[14:56] <ducasse> gebruiker: minor, if any, i think.
[14:56] <BluesKaj> gebruiker, dunno i use KDE
[14:57] <jjulian> hey there i want to execute a script / change routing table on connect disconnect of wifi through wpa_supplicant, any ideas?
[14:58] <asauske> hey
[14:59] <asauske> Je viens d'installer Ubuntu xd
[14:59] <ducasse> !fr | asauske
[14:59] <asauske> !fr
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> gebruiker  https://tweakers.net/downloads/38787/ubuntu-1610.html
[15:05] <coffeeguy> hi when i apt-get update i get this error: AppStream cache update completed, but some metadata was ignored due to errors.
[15:05] <coffeeguy> is that something of concern?
[15:05] <Deeewayne> Has anyone come across an issue after upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04 where the apache2 service no longer starts due to undefined symbols in authz_svn and dav_svn ?
[15:06] <Deeewayne> It looks like downgrading subversion to version 1.7.9 might be the fix
[15:07] <gebruiker> MonkeyDust: top!
[15:10] <vklin> #linux
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Deeewayne, perhaps the transition to systemd wasn't as smooth as expected
[15:16] <Deeewayne> BluesKaj, mod_authz_svn.so has undefined symbol dav_svn_get_repos_path2 and mod_dav_svn.so has undefined symbol dav_do_find_liveprop
[15:17] <Deeewayne> I found this for the first undefined symbol: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=786903
[15:19] <BluesKaj> Deeewayne, dunno much about that, but have you updated and upgraded since moving to 16.04?  i have to ask
[15:20] <Deeewayne> BluesKaj, yes I did
[15:20] <wafflejock> Deeewayne, you try reinstalling it?
[15:20] <wafflejock> Deeewayne, sudo apt-get install --reinstall libapache2-mod-svn
[15:22] <BluesKaj> Deeewayne, then I suggest you ask in #httpd first
[15:22] <wafflejock> BluesKaj, yeah just upgraded a server from 14.04 to 16.04 have a few unit files to look at/fix it looks like, nothing catastrophic though
[15:22] <BluesKaj> wafflejock, ok
[15:23] <Deeewayne> wafflejock, I just (unsuccessfully) tried to downgrade to 1.7.9 of subversion; now I just reinstalled the latest and it might be fixed.  confirming
[15:42] <thespecter> hi
[15:45] <RageButthole> anyone here on github want to do me a super low effort favor?
[15:57] <poco_> (Kubuntu 16.04) Despite having Chrome selected as my default browser, whenever I click on links, for example in hexchat, Firefox opens. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
[15:58] <heshg> hi... i want to back up my system using rsync to a sd card. out of the blister pack the sd card is vfat. should i reformat to a native linux type like ext4
[15:59] <yeats> poco_: try 'sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[15:59] <yeats> "
[15:59] <poco_> yeats, Chrome is selected. good idea though
[16:01] <guo> hi
[16:07] <ducasse> heshg: if you want to preserve permissions etc, then yes.
[16:08] <heshg> ducasse: thank you for your reply. it will be done
[16:10] <ducasse> heshg: i think you need to use rsync -a to actually save permissions, check the man page
[16:10] <heshg> ducasse: actually i'll be using rsnapshot
[16:13] <WuWu> hi
[16:14] <WuWu> i need a little help with wmv playback on ubuntu 16.04
[16:14] <WuWu> i have install vlc but my wmv files refuses to play
[16:15] <WuWu> i've also install ubuntu extras
[16:17] <BlueShark> WuWu: other files play?
[16:17] <WuWu> yah
[16:18] <WuWu> has me stumped
[16:20] <WuWu> when i play with videos app it says "the stream is encrypted and the decyrtion is not supported". when i play it in vlc  it cause the system to hang and i need to reboot
[16:25] <tatertots> WuWu: are the wmv files protected by any form of DRM?
[16:26] <ducasse> WuWu: encrypted wmv files are unsupported on linux
[16:26] <tatertots> WuWu: looks like you'll be using windows to enjoy those window media video files after all
[16:27] <WuWu> damn
[16:27] <WuWu> there must be a way
[16:28] <Southern_Gentlem> try vlc if not vlc will tell you if they drm
[16:28] <WuWu> it just causes system to hang and become unresponsive i have to reboot
[16:31] <ducasse> WuWu: there is no way, it's encrypted.
[16:31] <WuWu> what if i install windows media player in wine?
[16:31] <Southern_Gentlem> well if he can find the libdvdcss then maybe
[16:32] <alnr> what is a good file manager that has both a tree explorer type of interface and also a preview pane?
[16:32] <ducasse> WuWu: it probably depends on a drm-protectted path to the hardware, which is only supported on windows
[16:33] <ducasse> Southern_Gentlem: libdvdcss is to decrypt dvds, different algorithms.
[16:36] <vuoto> I need help changing console keymap in Metasploitable 2 which is Ubuntu based. I am missing all kinds of packages. Any takers?
[16:37] <ducasse> vuoto: we only support ubuntu, try your distro's support channel
[16:37] <vuoto> ducasse: Thank you for your answer
[16:38] <ducasse> vuoto: we have no idea what repos they use etc, so we can't help.
[16:58] <adac> How can I stream a video from command line to my upnp server?
[16:58] <guillaume___> hi, i'm using last nvidia drivers on ubuntu 16.04. I have a little problem of flickering in certain occasions and wanted to check the nvidia-settings, but when i try to launch it i have this error Inconsistency detected by ld.so
[17:01] <viju> Hi
[17:02] <viju> Can I connect I use vpnclient on ubuntu to connect to the network?
[17:06] <ducasse> adac: a single video? check the docs for cvlc, the command-line version of vlc
[17:07] <ducasse> adac: wait, your upnp _server_? you want that to stream it to clients?
[17:07] <ubuntu263> connect
[17:09] <adac> ducasse, actually my tv has a rasberry pi connected, on which an Upnp server is running
[17:09] <adac> and I now wnat to stream from my laptop to the tvp
[17:09] <adac> *tv
[17:09] <inhahe_> I'm running Ubuntu under VMware in Windows. I had to uninstall open-vm-tools to install vmware-tools in order to enable directory sharing between linux and Windows. But doing that broke my ability to paste from the Windows clipboard to the terminal. How do I get it back?
[17:10] <ducasse> adac: the rpi plays videos on the tv?
[17:10] <inhahe_> Actually I just realized i can still paste if i click on 'paste' in the vmware menu
[17:10] <inhahe_> I just used to be able to do it without having to do that
[17:10] <adac> actually yes. I want to send my videos from my notebook to the pi, which has an Upnp server running
[17:11] <ducasse> adac: if your rpi plays the videos it's a client, not a server. but still, see my first response.
[17:12] <inhahe_> and pasting with a keyboard layout set in Ubuntu other than qwerty doesn't work very well..
[17:13] <adac> ducasse, hmm ok I see. I maybe misinterpreted this then
[17:13] <adac> thanks!
[17:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[17:19] <l0llip0p> SebthreeBQM10HD: hi
[17:19] <apestate> void's wiki has been compromised https://wiki.voidlinux.eu/Special:RecentChanges
[17:21] <l0llip0p> apestate: compromised? what do you mean?
[17:21] <l0llip0p> apestate: I mean what does the word mean
[17:32] <mguy> Chrome crashed and then my terminal started display garbage for the results of 'ps aux', then I rebooted and was presented with a grub prompt
[17:33] <mguy> I booted to liveusb and my ssd shows up as Contents unkown
[17:33] <mguy> wtf
[17:34] <wab00se> how to get Google Chrome with I have 32 bit not 64
[17:35] <xangua> wab00se: you don't
[17:35] <dontknow> wab00se, i think chrome doesn't support 32 bit anymore
[17:35] <diogenes_> wab00se, but you ca get slimjet which is pretty much google chrome
[17:35] <xangua> Since like a year or more
[17:36] <wab00se> ok thanks
[17:37] <ekarlso> how can one avoid ERR_SSL_BAD_RECORD_MAC_ALERT?
[17:38] <ekarlso> getting it from some ilos
[17:38] <ducasse> wab00se: chromium still has 32-bit builds, iirc, if those have not also been discontinued
[17:40] <craptalk> please help i have this  error "The System Running In Low Graphics Mode’" after update
[17:41] <craptalk> i got few desktop managers installed, does it cause the problem when updating
[17:42] <Raulwynn> I'm trying to install duck launcher on xubuntu. It keeps telling me "Unable to locate package duck-launcher"
[17:43] <craptalk> Raulwynn: it could mean that the name of your package is not correct
[17:44] <ducasse> Raulwynn: i can't find any such package, where did you get the name?
[17:44] <madd_step> Raulwynn: sudo apt update
[17:45] <madd_step> Raulwynn: make sure you added the correct repo: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:the-duck/launcher
[17:45] <craptalk> did you google it?
[17:45] <Raulwynn> Let me go back to the url
[17:45] <Raulwynn> Sorry about that craptalk ducasse, http://www.noobslab.com/2014/05/duck-launcher-is-unity-like-dock-for.html
[17:45] <craptalk> can anyone help me please?
[17:46] <Dako300> what's your question, craptalk?
[17:46] <craptalk> please help i have this error "The System Running In Low Graphics Mode’" after update
[17:46] <Dako300> what's your graphics card?
[17:46] <craptalk> currently running ubuntu latest LTS version
[17:47] <craptalk> NVIDIA
[17:47] <craptalk> i am reinstalling the driver
[17:47] <craptalk> few things i have done
[17:47] <Dako300> How old is it?
[17:47] <craptalk> version?
[17:47] <Dako300> Or, better yet, what's the name of the card? nVidia is known for being terrible with Linux support
[17:48] <craptalk> hmm, i am sorry i am wrong, it is built in graphic
[17:48] <madhuraj> exit
[17:48] <madhuraj> exit
[17:48] <madhuraj> quit
[17:48] <madhuraj> q
[17:48] <Dako300> Do you know the name of the internal graphics?
[17:48] <craptalk> intel or something?
[17:49] <craptalk> must be
[17:49] <Dako300> Do you have shell access?
[17:49] <Dako300> on that machine specifically
[17:49] <craptalk> i have, but now is reinstalling the driver
[17:49] <craptalk> what is the command to check?
[17:49] <Dako300> okay, can you post the output of "lspci | grep VGA"
[17:50] <Dako300> That tells us the specific make and model of your iGPU
[17:50] <Dako300> (assuming it is using it currently)
[17:53] <Dako300> craptalk: is this a laptop or a desktop? Some powersaving features on the laptops aren't well supported under Linux
[17:54] <craptalk> Dako300: intel graphic 2nd generation
[17:54] <craptalk> thats the output of your command
[17:54] <MOUD> Hey all
[17:54] <Raulwynn> Can I safely delete my /usr/games folder?
[17:54] <craptalk> Dako300: laptop
[17:55] <Raulwynn> and how do I run that in terminal (if I can.)
[17:55] <OerHeks> It depends how you installed the nvidia driver, manually from the site = reinstall after any kernel update
[17:55] <Dako300> So the laptop is using Intel graphics currently, but it also has a nVidia chip inside of it, but that isn't used right now (for powersaving or default), is that right?
[17:55] <craptalk> after i purge it all, i do the sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:56] <craptalk> Dako300: has NVIDIA chip? does built in graphic card still have it??
[17:57] <craptalk> i confused, but when i did that, it used to be solved
[17:57] <MOUD> What is .xseession-erros?
[17:57] <abhi_> Hi, is there a way to repair grub without a live cd
[17:58] <abhi_> [17:57] <abhi_> Hi, is there a way to repair grub without a live cd ??
[17:58] <Dako300> craptalk: a lot of old laptops that use nVidia graphics cards also have Intel integrated graphics, and the driver switches between them to save power. This has terrible support and is a big problem
[17:58] <Raulwynn> abhi, You hold shift when your computer boots
[17:58] <Raulwynn> It will pull up grub (sometimes depending on your settings)
[17:58] <abhi_> already tried, its somehow gone missing
[17:58] <abhi_> windows loads auto
[17:59] <abhi_> even though ubuntu partition exists
[17:59] <diogenes_> abhi_, have you tried updating grub?
[17:59] <Raulwynn> You'll have to either A) use windows software inside windows to re-enable it, or B) use a live CD
[17:59] <MOUD> abhi_, I used this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:59] <ducasse> !fixgrub | abhi_
[17:59] <craptalk> Dako300: i see
[18:00] <EriC^^> abhi_: which laptop model?
[18:00] <abhi_> au114tx
[18:00] <abhi_> hp
[18:00] <craptalk> kinda annoyed me so much when it comes to graphic card problem
[18:00] <EriC^^> abhi_: press f9 when the pc boots, then choose ubuntu
[18:00] <Dako300> craptalk: what's the laptop model?
[18:00] <craptalk> some graphic card doesnt do well on linux
[18:00] <EriC^^> abhi_: is it a fresh install?
[18:00] <abhi_> MOUD can I run it from windows ?
[18:01] <craptalk> Lenovo G470
[18:01] <Dako300> craptalk: the nouveau drier works pretty well in my (limited) experience. I use an AMD 6450 and I haven't had any problems
[18:01] <diogenes_> lenovo is useless
[18:02] <MOUD> abhi_, no, only on linux
[18:02] <abhi_> EriC^^ i had dualbooted win 10 and ubuntu and I was testing my recovery options and on next boot win 10 sstrted loading automatically
[18:02] <craptalk> Dako300: well i think nouveau driver was the last time before updating, now it sucks so much
[18:02] <EriC^^> abhi_: ok try that, when ubuntu boots type "sudo grub-install" then "sudo update-grub"
[18:02] <MOUD> is it safe to delete .xsession-errors? if so, where is located?
[18:03] <EriC^^> MOUD: it's in ~/.xsession-errors usually
[18:03] <EriC^^> it's ok to remove
[18:03] <MOUD> EriC^^, it's taking over 13GB
[18:03] <abhi_> EriC^^ how am I supposed to do it, I have only windows access currently, grub isnt dshowing itself
[18:04] <EriC^^> abhi_: press f9 when the pc boots
[18:04] <EriC^^> you'll get a boot options screen
[18:04] <EriC^^> MOUD: what error is it putting there?
[18:04] <craptalk> in some reference, they solved the problem by removing /var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority, is the lightdm already a culprit?
[18:04] <inhahe_> i'm getting the message 'you are using pip version 8.1.1, however version 9.0.1 is available. you should consider upgrading via the 'pip install --upgrade pip' command.   but i did that already and i still get the message.
[18:04] <abhi_> I get boot device options on pressing f9
[18:05] <netcrime> Hello. I really love Fiddler on Windows for easy UI (dont like wireshark) Can you recommend something similar to Fiddler on Ubuntu 16.04 ?
[18:05] <OerHeks> craptalk, wrong reference, ~/.Xauthority is in your homefolder
[18:05] <EriC^^> abhi_: is there "ubuntu" there?
[18:05] <abhi_> ALso where did you find so quickly the f9 key ?
[18:05] <craptalk> OerHeks: okay, then might it be the problem?
[18:06] <EriC^^> abhi_: i have 2 hp laptops
[18:06] <abhi_> Will have to chk it.
[18:06] <abhi_> I will hv to chk if ubuntu is there
[18:06] <MOUD> EriC^^, I have no idea. I just received a "low disk space" icon near the clock
[18:06] <OerHeks> craptalk,  you could try to remove it and login again, it is indeed a known issue after updates, but not for all of us
[18:07] <EriC^^> MOUD: try "tail ~/.xsession-errors"
[18:07] <Frigid_Cryotank> I'm trying to do some i2c interface programming under ubuntu... having a tough time.  pulled the sources for i2cdetect (it's out of i2c-tools) and examined how that program accesses the i2c bus.
[18:08] <Frigid_Cryotank> oops
[18:08] <MarkB2> sorry about that.
[18:08] <MOUD> EriC^^, I don't have tail installed
[18:08] <MarkB2> I find that the i2c-tools user-land routines are using a collection of functions that have the word "smbus" in them.
[18:08] <MarkB2> I'm familiar with smbus.
[18:09] <Raulwynn> I am having a hard time getting this installed https://github.com/the-duck/launcher
[18:09] <MarkB2> But I can't find the header file containing the smbus* routines.
[18:09] <EriC^^> MOUD: try "head -n40 ~/.xsession-errors"
[18:09] <MarkB2> Rather smbus function declarations.
[18:10] <EriC^^> MOUD: sudo apt-get install --reinstall coreutils  (to install tail)
[18:10] <EriC^^> MOUD: are you sure tail isn't installed? try ls -l /usr/bin/tail
[18:10] <MOUD> EriC^^, it is, I wrote "trail" instead of tail, my bad
[18:11] <Raulwynn> Is xubuntu debian?
[18:11] <OerHeks> Raulwynn,  [Unmaintained] ... good luck with that, 2 year old project
[18:11] <EriC^^> Raulwynn: it's ubuntu with the xfce de, so yes
[18:11] <MOUD> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/dpqky2LF
[18:13] <Raulwynn> Okay, maybe someone on here could help me then. I hate whiskers. I cant remove my icon and shutoff settings at the top, I can't make the background transparent, and I can't hide the categories panel. I want a launcher that will pop an empty box up with hotkey and only show programs when I start typing
[18:13] <Raulwynn> Is there a way to edit the programs code? If so, how? I have literally zero programming knowledge.
[18:13] <abhi_> guys, any idea about this error at boot, platform MSFT0101:00: failed to claim resource 1
[18:14] <jjulian> how and when to start wpa_cli in associtation with wpa_supplicant?
[18:14] <EriC^^> MOUD: no idea, is that the error msg that keeps repeating always? try tail -40 ~/.xsession-errors
[18:14] <jjulian> pre-up and post up does not seem to work.
[18:16] <MOUD> EriC^^, the only error message that I get is from a calendar program
[18:17] <MOUD> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/vCRCbZmA
[18:18] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Raulwynn, with which interface?
[18:19] <EriC^^> MOUD: no idea, you could do "> ~/.xsession-errors" to empty it if you want and see how it goes
[18:19] <MOUD> EriC^^, I just deleted both files. There was a .xsession-errors.old too :/
[18:19] <EriC^^> that works too
[18:19] <MOUD> EriC^^, thanks for the help :)
[18:20] <EriC^^> no problem :)
[18:21] <ducasse> Raulwynn: how do you expect to edit code if you can't program? what are you after - a basic dock?
[18:22] <Raulwynn> ducasse, I want an empty box that will populate programs (maybe files) when I start typing.
[18:22] <Raulwynn> Like unity but a small box in the corner and more material type theme
[18:22] <ducasse> Raulwynn: where you can search for installed programs and launch them?
[18:23] <Raulwynn> Yea
[18:23]  * ninisama someone knows how i can use xdebug though nano in the cli?
[18:23] <ducasse> Raulwynn: maybe rofi would suit you, it's not visible except when you press the hotkey
[18:25] <Raulwynn> ducasse, I like dmenu if you've seen it but I want it to show the name and not the installed package I.E., Google Chrome instead of google-chrome-stable. I'm looking up rofi right now
[18:25] <ducasse> Raulwynn: then you want the 'drun' mode of rofi, check the man page.
[18:26] <ducasse> Raulwynn: you can get dmenu to do that as well, i have that on i3 but i much prefer rofi so that's what i actually use.
[18:27] <morsnowski> I'm on 16.04 gnome-flashback and for some reson I'm unable to set a desktop background. It's stays black whatever I try
[18:27] <Raulwynn> I am watching videos on rofi it seems a little intensive.
[18:27] <morsnowski> anyone an idea what that is?
[18:28] <ducasse> Raulwynn: that's because it can be used for almost anything - what you want is built-in, ready to use. just install with apt and go.
[18:29] <gebruiker> anyone know where I can get themes for ubuntu unity?
[18:29] <Raulwynn> ducasse, I'm willing to learn. The videos do a piss-poor job. Where can I find documentation on how to use it?
[18:29] <ducasse> Raulwynn: the man page is very good.
[18:30] <ducasse> Raulwynn: what you want is 'rofi -show drun'
[18:30] <ducasse> Raulwynn: just bind that to a hotkey
[18:30] <Raulwynn> Okay.
[18:31] <Raulwynn> Let me install. I may have some questions for you.
[18:31] <ducasse> Raulwynn: i'm heading out in a few minutes, but will be back in 20 minutes or so.
[18:33] <Raulwynn> ducasse, Okay
[18:37] <Raulwynn> Here's a question. I have a hotkey bound to a program (Lets say chrome) how can I make it where if the program is opened and i hit the hotkey again, it will close all open instance of the application
[18:38] <ninisama> someone knows how i can use xdebug though nano in the cli?
[18:43] <Dako300> Raulwynn: you can probably use a combination of ps, grep, and kill
[18:49] <wedgie> or pkill.
[18:50] <Ventri> hii!!
[18:50] <Dako300> howdy ventri
[18:50] <Ventri> como andan gente?
[18:56] <Phanes> why does sudo want to do localhost name resolution
[18:58] <gebruiker> unity feels like one of the most stable Desktop Environments I have been playing with
[18:59]  * MarkB2 is going to luse his mind dealing with the various incarnations of i2c functions.
[18:59] <MarkB2> First there is wiringPi.
[18:59] <MarkB2> Then there is Intel's MRAA.
[19:00] <MarkB2> And finally there is the Real Deal: smbus functions.
[19:00] <Dako300> gebruiker: I've been using i3 for about a year now, and I haven't had a single problem with it
[19:00] <enon__> hi , on ubuntu 16.04 can I get grub to support usb flash drive startup on a machine that doesn't support usb boots?
[19:00] <Dako300> enon__: I think super grub disk might be able to handle that
[19:00] <gebruiker> Dako300: man i3 - is that the keyboard designed wm?
[19:01] <Dako300> enon__: I think you can do it with grub if you reconfigure grub with the USB drive in, but I haven't tried it yet
[19:02] <Dako300> gebruiker: yes. I especially like it on my laptop since I don't have much screen real-estate
[19:02] <b100s> when i use ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop with separated monitor i prefer to sort windows by virtual desktops by set it through compiz; when i switch to laptop own monitor i have problem(even when i switch back) - windows has reorder : (
[19:02] <b100s> what can i do to fix it and always see my order until i reboot system
[19:09] <monolith> Hey
[19:09] <monolith> I'm doing a cyber security contest and am having an issue in Ubuntu
[19:09] <monolith> Not cheating, but looking for help with a specific
[19:10] <monolith> I ran "awk -F: '($3 == "0") {print}' /etc/passwd
[19:10] <monolith> Only root should have listed, but dbowie shows as well
[19:10] <monolith> dbowie isn't listed in the gui for managing users
[19:10] <monolith> Can't remove it because it's "required by process 1"
[19:11] <monolith> and I can't kill process 1 without shutting myself out
[19:11] <monolith> What can I do?
[19:13] <lasersaber> monolith: ##hackers
[19:13] <monolith> I guess
[19:14] <monolith> It's invite only
[19:14] <lasersaber> two hashes
[19:15] <monolith> Says I'm banned?
[19:15] <monolith> Weird, I've never joined before
[19:15] <monolith> Maybe my nick was used by someone else?  Pretty sure bans are IP based though
[19:15] <lasersaber> ##linux is pretty active right now
[19:16] <monolith> Alright, have to register though
[19:16] <BlueShark> monolith: Bans can be based on anything, including your nickname. Bans based on hostnames, IPs, and account names are common as well.
[19:17] <monolith> Still banned
[19:17] <J_B0N3> I am running Xubuntu and trying to configure the trackpad settings.  Using the GUI I can modify the acceleration and sensitivity settings but they do not give me the 'acceleration ramp' I would like.  I know I can configure using the synaptics conf and cli but I don't know which variables to tune.  The man pages don't provide much detail. Any help would be appreciated.
[19:20] <BlueShark> monolith: kiwiirc clients are banned in that channel.
[19:20] <Noidea> mshey
[19:20] <monolith> Oh
[19:20] <monolith> Heh
[19:20] <Noidea> hi
[19:20] <monolith> I guess its' just snobbery
[19:20] <Noidea> need help!
[19:21] <Dako300> Noidea: with what?
[19:28] <Mikerhinos> Hi guys. I'm using a website to do my financial/bank account management. Recently they started to have problems with adding my auto things, like electricity bill every month etc...So it messed up my maths for the end of the months lol. Is there any good Linux software to do this thing ? I tried Homebank but it can't get categories from my .csv export file :/
[19:29] <ducasse> Mikerhinos: gnucash, maybe?
[19:30] <J_B0N3> Gnucash is probably the best FOSS option.
[19:31] <Mikerhinos> Ok I saw it on a review but it seemed more oriented to small business, I'll give it a shot so, thx ducasse and J_B0N3 :)
[19:31] <J_B0N3> It's like a stripped-down version of quickbooks.  It's a double-entry accounting system.
[19:38] <sulfasal> Anybody here use Flacon. I made some flac files but where are they?
[19:40] <sulfasal> No errors reported
[19:42] <sulfasal> Nevermind, found 'em ;)
[19:42] <Morno> @sulfasal: try and use the find command :) try find urfilehere
[19:43] <geirha> that's not the right way to use find
[19:44] <Morno> how is the right way? :P im new to some of linux commands :)
[19:44] <neptunepink> My system is hanging while booting. I get this last line in the console: Begin: Running /scripts/local-premount
[19:45] <geirha> Assuming it would be somewhere under your homedir (~):  find ~ -iname "*part-of-filename*"
[19:46] <ioria> neptunepink, have you installed uswsusp ?
[19:47] <neptunepink> ioria: How can I tell?
[19:47] <ioria> neptunepink, dpkg -l uswsusp , if you can login to a console or via recovery
[19:48] <neptunepink> Hmm, I could chroot in.
[19:48] <neptunepink> I'm on a USB key.
[19:48] <ignacio> wow
[19:48] <ignacio> do you fit in there? jk.
[19:48] <ioria> neptunepink, it should be a bug , workarounr remove uswsusp https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1568341
[19:49] <neptunepink> gah, 32bit key
[19:49] <ioria> neptunepink, you can also try another kernel
[19:49] <neptunepink> That is something I forgot to try.
[19:49] <user3> hi
[19:50] <zerohimself> hey guys, i need some mdadm raid 5 adivce.. first time setup (and yes w/ ubuntu), am i in the right place?
[19:50] <neptunepink> Mmm, yes, I did install & have been using hibernate stuffs.
[19:51] <ioria> neptunepink, check the link i posted, and see if it suits you
[19:52] <nicholasthan> i try to install linux ultimate on usb, but it doesn't boot, what might i do wrong?
[19:53] <ppf> zerohimself: sure
[19:53] <ppf> !ask
[19:54] <ppf> nicholasthan: how does it not boot
[19:54] <OerHeks> NickG365, linux ultimate is not an officialubuntu version, not sure they have an irc channel
[19:54] <yeats> nicholasthan: /join #UltimateEdition
[19:55] <zerohimself> alright, does mdadm support more than 4 usb3 devices in arrays?
[19:55] <nicholasthan> i create usb bootable with dd, but when i try to boot only blinking cursor
[19:55] <zerohimself> *in a raid 5 array
[19:57] <Dako300> nicholasthan: If i'm not mistaken, not all live CD ISOs can be burned to USB and booted. What image speficially are you flashing?
[19:58] <Raulwynn> Is anyone farmilliar with awesome?
[19:58] <tomreyn> zerohimself: i have never tried, but i don't see why not. it won't perform that well, though, due to the nature of USB (especially the S in USB)
[19:58] <nicholasthan> ultimate edition 5.1
[19:58] <OerHeks> nicholasthan,  linux ultimate is not an officialubuntu version,  /join #UltimateEdition
[19:58] <nicholasthan> Sorry, thank you
[19:58] <zerohimself> i wasn't expecting real ata speed out of the setup.. just a big NAS with redundency
[19:59] <OerHeks> nicholasthan, tip: 'sync' after dd, might help
[19:59] <zerohimself> on a sbc that runs ubuntu
[20:00] <Evan_GG> so, is there a fork of xchat that still has tabs of the channels on the bottom?
[20:00] <elichai2> hey
[20:00] <elichai2> I've asked it a few days ago but didn't get a good answer
[20:00] <Evan_GG> oh here we go
[20:00] <elichai2> how can I change the maximum open files limit to non-root users?
[20:00] <OerHeks> Evan_GG, hexchat is a fork of xchat, it has that option
[20:01] <nicholasthan> OerHeks thank you, i will try
[20:01] <tgm4883> elichai2: what answer did you get?
[20:01] <elichai2> tgm4883, "why would you need that?"
[20:02] <Raulwynn2> Does anyone have any experience with Awesome Window Manager?
[20:02] <tgm4883> elichai2: because I don't want to bother giving you the same answer...
[20:02] <elichai2> I think it's 100% ok to want to change the limit from 1024 to 8192
[20:02] <elichai2> tgm4883, I meant that was the answer lol
[20:02] <ppf> !ask | Raulwynn2
[20:02] <tgm4883> elichai2: oh lol
[20:02] <neptunepink> Well, let's see if I can upgrade the USB install to 64-bit while it's running 32-bit. Could be entertaining.
[20:02] <ducasse> Raulwynn2: there's a channel for it, #awesomewm or something similar
[20:03] <tgm4883> elichai2: I'm not sure who gave you that answer, but that's dumb. In any case, are you trying to increase it for a specific user?
[20:03] <ppf> ducasse: isn't that over at oftc?
[20:03] <OerHeks> neptunepink, upgrading 32 to 64 means reinstall, iirc
[20:03] <ducasse> ppf: the main channel, yes
[20:04] <neptunepink> I unplugged it too early.
[20:04] <OerHeks> neptunepink, oh you mean making an usb, that should be possible from 32 bit
[20:05] <tgm4883> elichai2: or are you trying to just do it for all users system wide?
[20:05] <elichai2> tgm4883, doesn't matter, I have only one user other than root
[20:07] <elichai2> tgm4883, that's my /etc/security/limits.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23800101/
[20:07] <frib> my touchpad doesn't tap-to-click anymore.  what can I do?  Thanks for help!
[20:08] <welcesr> Can you recommend a simple gui program to convert FLAC to MP3...I am a linux noob and not yet ready to do it with complicated stuff
[20:08] <frib> welcesr, maybe avconvert?
[20:08] <tgm4883> elichai2: that looks fine to me, although I would put a file in /etc/security/limits.d/ instead of editing limits.conf directly. Is that not working for you?
[20:08] <welcesr> frib: will give it a look thanks
[20:09] <elichai2> tgm4883, no
[20:09] <zerohimself> answer from the linux raid wiki about USB: "Do NOT use these as part of your array."
[20:09] <zerohimself> damn...
[20:09] <tgm4883> elichai2: looks like you need to edit /etc/pam.d/common-session too
[20:09] <tgm4883> elichai2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/162229/how-do-i-increase-the-open-files-limit-for-a-non-root-user
[20:09] <elichai2> ulimit -a : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23800118/
[20:09] <welcesr> frib: is the full name just "avconvert"? Having trouble finding...but probably my fault
[20:10] <elichai2> tgm4883, common-session:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23800120/
[20:10] <tgm4883> elichai2: I didn't have to do that for my servers at work, although they aren't ubuntu
[20:10] <frib> welcesr, me too, seems like they changed it again
[20:10] <welcesr> frib: aha...at least it wasnt me being an idiot THIS time
[20:10] <ducasse> welcesr: try soundconverter
[20:11] <royalts> hi
[20:11] <welcesr> ducasse: thanks will look
[20:11] <tgm4883> elichai2: what version of ubuntu is this?
[20:11] <frib> welcesr, sudo apt install libav-tools
[20:11] <elichai2> 16.10
[20:12] <welcesr> frib:  is that a gui? I know its dumb but I tend to get overwhelmed by CL stuff at this stage in my learning
[20:12] <frib> welcesr, i believe it is only cli yes
[20:12] <Pinkamena_D> looking for a command line tool to convert (almost) any format input music (ogg, mp4, etc) to mp3 output. Any suggestions?
[20:12] <tgm4883> elichai2: and you've rebooted?
[20:12] <welcesr> ducasse: I apparently have soundvonverter installed and was intimidted by it or something as I didnt use it..should try again I guess
[20:12] <frib> My touchpad is no longer able to tap to click.  So annoying!  Please help! thanks
[20:13] <welcesr> frib: any other cui suggestions?
[20:13] <welcesr> gui
[20:13] <OerHeks> elichai2, you need to edit 2 files, /etc/security/limits.conf and /etc/pam.d/common-session* >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21515463/how-to-increase-maximum-file-open-limit-ulimit-in-ubuntu
[20:13] <frib> welcesr, avconv is good though, you can find examples on google.  used to be called ffmpeg i believe
[20:13] <frib> it's not very complicated
[20:13] <elichai2> tgm4883, yes
[20:13] <ducasse> welcesr: i think soundconverter is the easiest gui program you will find
[20:13] <elichai2> OerHeks, you can see i've pastebin'd these files
[20:14] <benpicco> Hi, I get libncurses5 : Depends: libtinfo5 (= 5.9+20140118-1ubuntu1) but 6.0+20160625-1ubuntu1 is to be installed. When I run apt-get -f install it wants to remove essential system packages. How do I fix this?
[20:14] <tgm4883> elichai2: odd, let me finish this battle and I'll see if I can reproduce it
[20:14] <neptunepink> As a consolation prize, I was able to netcat the iso over to another box.
[20:14] <OerHeks> elichai2, oh, my bad, carry on
[20:14] <frib> welcesr, avconv -i "$song" -metadata album="$1" -metadata comment="Jingle" -b 192k "$output"
[20:14] <welcesr> ok next question..I have a dual install with Elementary in front of Xubuntu....looks like this http://i.imgur.com/BC2dnSh.png and I want to remove Elementary and reclaim that 127gb for my Xubuntu install...but I get confused reading about it...is there a simple way that wont break the system since Xubuntu isnt on a bootable partiation?
[20:14] <frib> EASY AS PIE
[20:14] <elichai2> tgm4883, ok
[20:15] <Guru> hey all :)
[20:15] <Guest32623> is there somone who could help me with
[20:15] <welcesr> ive been advised a few differing things in the past and gave up due to contradictions and confusion
[20:16] <welcesr> but am running out of space on Xubuntu side enough I need to fix it or just start over if Ihave no choice
[20:16] <Raulwynn> How can I disable all panels in xubuntu? It won't let me delete the last one.
[20:17] <benpicco> (fixed it by installing libtinfo5 5.9+20140118-1ubuntu1 manually)
[20:18] <ducasse> Raulwynn: iirc, the last panel can't be disabled, but ask in #xubuntu to be sure. or make it as small as possible and set to hidden?
[20:18] <Guru0123> hey
[20:19] <tgm4883> elichai2: hmm, works fine here. Do you see any error messages in /var/log/syslog ?
[20:19] <Guru0123> i have a small concern on my Laptop could somone help me out?
[20:19] <ducasse> !ask | Guru0123
[20:19] <Guru0123> i have dual boot Ubuntu and Windows 10 but for some reason i am not able to enter the safe mode for windows , it gives a blank page when it loads
[20:21] <elichai2> tgm4883, sorry, i'm back
[20:21] <tgm4883> elichai2: any error messages?
[20:22] <Guru0123> Is there anyone who could help me out? :)
[20:22] <tgm4883> elichai2: I just made the two changes we discussed, rebooted and it works
[20:22] <tgm4883> Guru0123: that would seem to be a Windows issue right?
[20:22] <elichai2> really
[20:22] <tgm4883> elichai2: yep
[20:22] <elichai2> what should i search for in syslog?
[20:22] <ioria> Guru0123, old thread , but you can try http://askubuntu.com/questions/135509/how-would-i-boot-into-the-ubuntu-and-windows-recovery-modes-if-i-removed-the-opt
[20:22] <Raulwynn> ducasse, I'm trying to get help on the #awesome IRC and I think their servers are down or something. Even the one on their webpage is dead. Anywho, I think that xfce isn't going to work well with awesome, What would anyone suggest?
[20:23] <elichai2> tgm4883, tried on a non-rooted system?
[20:23] <elichai2> ubuntu?
[20:23] <tgm4883> elichai2: hmm, maybe 'grep -i err /var/log/syslog' and see if any of that looks relevant
[20:23] <ioria> Guru0123, <f8 key, they say
[20:23] <ducasse> Raulwynn: xfce does not work well with other wms in general
[20:23] <tgm4883> elichai2: my desktop is ubuntu mate 16.10
[20:23] <Raulwynn> ducasse, I realized that quite quickly
[20:24] <Raulwynn> So what would be a good replacement for XFCE
[20:24] <elichai2> tgm4883, wow, now as I saw it I need to clean my logs lol
[20:24] <Guru0123> Loria f8 for windiws 7 , is it possible for windows 10?
[20:24] <elichai2> i have logs from July
[20:24] <elichai2> does it make sense that the latest one is from Aug?
[20:24] <ioria> Guru0123, seems valis also foe win8... nothing to loose
[20:24] <tgm4883> elichai2: you should have stuff from today in there
[20:24] <tgm4883> elichai2: is this a standard ubuntu desktop install?
[20:24] <ducasse> Raulwynn: that depends entirely on your habits and preferences, you will need to test a few things and see.
[20:25] <elichai2> without the error grep I have stuff from today
[20:25] <ioria> Guru0123, http://superuser.com/questions/408309/make-grub-2-boot-windows-8-safe-mode
[20:25] <tgm4883> elichai2: is this a standard ubuntu desktop install? A server install? A rented VPS?
[20:26] <elichai2> standard desktop
[20:27] <ducasse> Raulwynn: my preference is just a good wm and the individual tools i want, if you want a full de you might find lxde more to your liking.
[20:27] <tgm4883> elichai2: not sure then. my desktop isn't far from standard
[20:28] <elichai2> tgm4883, how far?
[20:28] <Raulwynn> ducasse, I want tiling. I use dmode or dword (Whatever it's called)
[20:28] <Guru0123> Loria ill give a try becuase i only have one system with  ubuntu working fine but i am dead in the water of windows due to WshShell.run error, Windows\run.vbs issue which i need to enter safe mode to end that process and unistall t
[20:29] <tgm4883> elichai2: I've an updated mesa
[20:29] <ducasse> Raulwynn: then just find a tiling wm you like, i use i3, and set up the tools you need.
[20:30] <Guru0123> or is there anyway we can unistall an application which was installed in windows through Ubuntu? buy sorting out by date? or is there any option that way?
[20:30] <elichai2> tgm4883, how can I debug this? maybe change it more hard core?
[20:30] <ioria> Guru0123, not very good in windows, but maybe the win rescue disk can help you
[20:30] <lasersaber> brb
[20:31] <neptunepink> The chroot thing was a wee bit janky, but I got uswsusp removed. Thanks for the help!
[20:31] <Guru0123> i have a Pendrive with bootable windows 10 but again i am helpless how to move further
[20:32] <ioria> Guru0123, #windows
[20:33] <ducasse> isn't it ##windows?
[20:33] <ioria> will redirect, i guess
[20:33] <Guru0123> ioria: thanks
[20:33] <ioria> np
[20:33] <Guru0123> ioria: ill try to gather some information from thee
[20:33] <ioria> ok
[20:34] <frib> my touchpad shows up in both /proc/bus/input/devices and xinput -- I think my xorg configuration is messed up making 'tap-to-click' not work
[20:34] <frib> but I dont know how to fix it.  please help, ty
[20:35] <frib> ioria, the solution to the bluetooth issue was 'pactl load-module module-bluez5-discover'
[20:35] <ioria> frib, good
[20:36] <frib> the unity control app still can't initiate connections but I can through bluetoothctl
[20:36] <frib> i think maybe the unity app didn't upgrade to support bluez5 (apparently new?)
[20:37] <cfoch_> hi
[20:37] <cfoch_> how do I disable OpenGL support?
[20:37] <J_B0N3> I am running Xubuntu and trying to configure the trackpad settings.  Using the GUI I can modify the acceleration and sensitivity settings but they do not give me the 'acceleration ramp' I would like.  I know I can configure using the synaptics conf and cli but I don't know which variables to tune.  The man pages don't provide much detail. Any help would be appreciated.
[20:37] <tgm4883> elichai2: what's the output of "cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max"
[20:37] <elichai2> 1207618
[20:37] <frib> how can I fix my touchpad xorg configuration seeing as it does not click ?
[20:37] <ioria> frib, i got issues with bt too, using another de solved, and for unity the cli has been usefull
[20:38] <elichai2> when i'm inside su I run 'ulimit -n 8192' and it works
[20:38] <elichai2> but I can't run it outside of su
[20:38] <frib> what is "De" ?
[20:38] <ioria> desktop environment (unity, gnome, lxde , etc .etc )
[20:38] <frib> oh ok
[20:39] <J_B0N3> frib: check out this page if you are using they synaptics driver https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics
[20:39] <J_B0N3> If you are comfortable using command line..
[20:39] <ioria> frib, if you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf , you can try to backup it and restart
[20:40] <tgm4883> elichai2: do you have anything in /etc/security/limits.d/
[20:40] <elichai2> tgm4883, no, empty
[20:40] <tgm4883> elichai2: this is ubuntu desktop 16.10?
[20:41] <frib> ioria, i dont.  but I do have /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/[lots of files]
[20:41] <elichai2> tgm4883, yes
[20:41] <frib> how can I just reset the configurations to the defaults?
[20:41] <ioria> frib, nope, that's different
[20:41] <frib> idk
[20:41] <Guru0123> ioria: god!, no responses in #windows
[20:41] <ioria> frib, try another kernel from grub
[20:41] <frib> how can I just reset to the 16.04 defaults?
[20:42] <tgm4883> elichai2: I'm not sure if it's worth the effort firing up a VM to test that it works. I'm pretty sure it's something with your system. Did you do some major changes?
[20:42] <ioria> Guru0123, be patient
[20:42] <frib> ioria, how do you catch grub menu again?
[20:42] <Guru0123> tgm4883: Yes looks like its  a windows issue but only thing is i just want to enter the safe mode in windows 10
[20:42] <elichai2> tgm4883, I do change stuff but I don't remember changing anything about file limits
[20:42] <ioria> Guru0123, shift
[20:43] <Guru0123> ioria: did those
[20:43] <Guru0123> ioria: ill try again
[20:43] <ioria> Guru0123, sy, that was for Frickelpit
[20:43] <tgm4883> elichai2: I mean like PPAs, custom kernel, 3rd party packages?
[20:43] <ioria> Guru0123, sy, that was for frib
[20:44] <elichai2> tgm4883, sure, I have lots of PPA and 3rd patry packages, but no custom kernels
[20:45] <elichai2> tgm4883, sorry
 tgm4883, sure, I have lots of PPA and 3rd patry packages, but no custom kernels
[20:46] <frib> ioria, changing kernel doesn't seem to have done anything
[20:46] <frib> i believe the synaptics driver is loaded and xorg can see it (xinput lists it)
[20:46] <ioria> frib, are your updated ?
[20:46] <frib> ioria, idk
[20:47] <frib> how do you do that
[20:47] <ioria> frib, cat /etc/issue
[20:47] <frib> says Ubuntu 16.04 LTS \n \;
[20:47] <frib> \l
[20:47] <HiddenDjinn> does anyone use alpine for their email?
[20:47] <ioria> frib, uname -r
[20:47] <HiddenDjinn> if so, i could use someone's google-fu...getting confused by something i used to do easily
[20:48] <frib> 4.4.0-57-generic
[20:48] <elichai2> tgm4883, what do you think about putting it inside bash profile? https://stackoverflow.com/a/8285278/1621927
[20:48] <frib> (usually i use 59)
[20:48] <ioria> frib, current is 59
[20:48] <frib> ioria, yeah because you told me to try a different kernel this time
[20:48] <ioria> frib, yes
[20:48] <frib> so that's why i'm in 57 now
[20:48] <ioria> frib, ok, when stopped working  ?
[20:49] <frib> i'd say a couple months ago
[20:49] <javafiend> hello
[20:49] <frib> i was trying to configure the touchable area adding options in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[20:49] <frib> but they didn't work and I didn't even notice when it messed up the clicking ability
[20:49] <tgm4883> elichai2: you already said that doesn't work
[20:49] <elichai2> sorry, my connectivity is bad
[20:50] <elichai2> tgm4883, I haven't tried appending it into profile
[20:50] <frib> but even if i take out those changes it doesn't seem to revert to working!  which is why I wanted to reset all those config files to the defaults
[20:50] <elichai2> when I run 'su - elichai2'  it does work
[20:51] <ioria> frib, if you don't have a xorg.conf or installed something weird , or set some  compiz options there is few to reset
[20:52] <frib> ioria, then what do i do?
[20:52] <stoner19> alright ubuntu friends...I needed a new computer ASAP so the best option was to go snag one from one of the big box retailers. Obviously this comes preinstalled with another OS. Is it possible to just install Ubuntu to a separate partition, wipe that other OS and then merge the partitions so that Ubuntu utilizes the full HDD?
[20:52] <tgm4883> elichai2: I just copied and pasted the lines you used into mine, swaped our usernames and it still works for me. Not sure why it's not working for you. As for the bash_profile thing, it depends on what your end goal is. If you need to increase the open file limit because of something you're trying to run, then it's possible that fix won't work for you
[20:52] <ioria> frib, you can try Recovery and Resume
[20:52] <tgm4883> stoner19: why wouldn't you just install over the top of the other OS
[20:53] <frib> ioria, why this then? http://askubuntu.com/questions/290009/how-do-i-make-my-synclient-settings-stick
[20:53] <elichai2> tgm4883, it's a python script I run sometimes
[20:53] <stoner19> tgm4883 I need to get ubuntu rolling right now, get everything going. but if for some reason this PC isn't enough I would return it and get a different one
[20:53] <ioria> frib, you said you removed those file
[20:53] <ioria> *s
[20:54] <tgm4883> stoner19: if the PC isn't enough? Sounds like you need to research more for your needs
[20:54] <stoner19> but the store I'm sure won't take it back if I give it back to them with windows missing from it
[20:54] <tgm4883> elichai2: out of curiosity, what does it do?
[20:54] <elichai2> open lots of threads and talk with a lot of nodes.
[20:54] <elichai2> I know that's not how you should do it but it's not my script
[20:54] <frib> ioria, no there were a lot of files there. i only edited 1.  but i'm not sure if i am reverting back exactly to how it was before i made changes.
[20:54] <elichai2> and I can't really change it
[20:54] <HiddenDjinn> stoner19, how about this: try ubuntu with a usb boot...if everything appears to work(wifi, sound, etc), it is enough and you can, at your leisure, install it
[20:55] <tgm4883> elichai2: eh, sounds a bit wonky but it sounds like the bash_profile thing would work for you
[20:55] <stoner19> HiddenDjinn can I install everything and still run it from the USB? Does booting it from a USB utilize all hardware?
[20:55] <tgm4883> elichai2: really though it sounds like the script needs fixed
[20:55] <frib> ioria, brb
[20:56] <HiddenDjinn> stoner19, if you have a large enough live file, you can install stuff onto the live os and run from usb
[20:56] <elichai2> tgm4883, I know, but that's not up to me really
[20:56] <HiddenDjinn> stoner19, and running from usb will utilize all hardware it can see
[20:56] <tgm4883> well, not the SSD/Hard Drive obviously
[20:57] <HiddenDjinn> tgm4883, and for obvious reasons
[20:57] <stoner19> hmmm, actually it probably isn't a big deal to remove windows now that I think about it. HDD is 1TB, which I'll never come close to filling up for my needs
[20:57] <stoner19> maybe I just leave the windows partition and allocate 500GB to ubuntu and call it good.
[20:58] <HiddenDjinn> stoner19, and if you want to sell or give the computer, with windows, to another person, deleting ubuntu and restoring it to a full windows system is not a big deal
[20:58] <Guru0123> ioria: no luck on f8 and Shift f8
[20:59] <HiddenDjinn> stoner19, assuming you don't delete the recovery partition
[20:59] <soee> is there any ppa with xorg 1.19 for Xenial ?
[20:59] <stoner19> yeah, that may just be the best option. Thanks for listening HiddenDjinn ;)
[20:59] <ioria> Guru0123, iirc, there is a rescue console  in the win disk
[20:59] <HiddenDjinn> stoner19, no problem
[21:00] <Guru0123> ioria: sorry?
[21:00] <ioria> Guru0123, you need to remove an app from windows, right ?
[21:01] <Guru0123> ioria: Yes
[21:01] <ioria> Guru0123, so try the rescue disk
[21:01] <Guru0123> ioria: from?
[21:01] <winpen> hello guys, did someone already install windows 7 over ubuntu ?
[21:02] <Guru0123> ioria:  i dont have any Rescue disk
[21:02] <HiddenDjinn> ioria, most machines don't come with rescue disks nowadays
[21:02] <ioria> Guru0123, you said you had a rescue usb...
[21:02] <Guru0123> ioria: i have tried that , its of no use
[21:02] <Guru0123> ioria:  i mean i created a windows bootable disk
[21:03] <Guru0123> ioria: which shows repair your computer , when i recover , it says your drive is locked
[21:03] <ioria> Guru0123, locked ?
[21:04] <Guru0123> Yeah it gave me something like that
[21:04] <ioria> Guru0123,  i'd keep asking in #windows
[21:04] <Guru0123> ioria: probably because there is login credentials for windows 10
[21:04] <ioria> Guru0123, no idea sorry
[21:04] <Guru0123> ioria: i am doing the same , no response mate
[21:05] <Guru0123> ioria: feeling so ignored
[21:05] <ioria> Guru0123, come on...
[21:05] <Guru0123> ioria: lol
[21:05] <ioria> Guru0123, find out why you can't use the rescue disk
[21:06] <Guru0123> ioria: okay will try
[21:06] <ioria> Guru0123, good luck
[21:06] <n4no`> or rm -rf and compile debian
[21:17] <welcesr> Anyone have advice how to repartition without screwing up? I have Elementary in front of Xubuntu but the Xubuntu isnt a bootable partition...like this http://i.imgur.com/BC2dnSh.png
[21:17] <welcesr> I want to remove Elementary and get that spce back for Xubuntu
[21:20] <hwpplayer1> is here a place that i can argue "gamifying or not gamifying the community " project ?
[21:20] <hwpplayer1> there *
[21:21] <ducasse> welcesr: linux does not care whether partitions are bootable or not
[21:22] <welcesr> ducasse: so can I just used Disks to remove the dev/sda1 elementary bootable one and enlarge the sda2 Xubuntu one after? Grub will fix itself and I will be able to boot into Xubuntu?
[21:22] <Bashing-om> welcesr: Of the 2 partitions - sda1 and sda6 - do you know which partition is the xubuntu ?
[21:22] <OerHeks> welcesr, use a live iso to remove elementary, the disk should be unmounted to do so
[21:23] <welcesr> Bashing-om: its the 123gb one with Xubuntu...I thought it was sda2 let me look
[21:24] <welcesr> I guess I am not sure...I thought sda2 was xubuntu and sda6 and the swap were under that
[21:24] <welcesr> I know that the sda1 127 is elementary
[21:24] <welcesr> obviously I dont understand partitioning well
[21:25] <welcesr> since sda 2 is 123gb and sda6 and swap add up to that I thought those were subdivisions of sda2?
[21:27] <welcesr> do I need to make sda2 extended bigger first and then make sda6 bigger?
[21:28] <Bashing-om> welcesr: Gow this works is that sda2 is an "extended" partition . extended being a container to hold "logical" partitions . here your logical partitions are sda5 (swap) and sda6 .
[21:28] <ducasse> welcesr: you first increase sda2, yes, then the partitions 'inside'
[21:28] <welcesr> bashing I remembered some of that...since it can only have so many partitions you make extended and then it can have unlimited inside it right?
[21:28] <welcesr> as a workaround to having multiple bootable ones
[21:29] <Bashing-om> welcesr: Well .. if ya want to call 128 logical partitions unlimited .. yeah :)
[21:29] <welcesr> sorry I mean there is a limit on logical ones right? so the extended allows more
[21:29] <welcesr> ok
[21:29] <welcesr> so how do I make sda 2 larger? just expand it over sda1?
[21:30] <welcesr> cant even find options for that
[21:31] <ducasse> welcesr: delete sda1, then expand
[21:31] <V7> Hey
[21:31] <welcesr> ok and this must be done in live usb right? cant do it when using sda6 Xubuntu?
[21:31] <V7> Could you help me with Desktop Effects in KDE Neon 5.8 ?
[21:31] <ducasse> welcesr: live usb, yes
[21:31] <V7> THey're not working .. :(
[21:31] <V7> Also ...
[21:31] <V7> This one http://i.imgur.com/WYz5ZuX.png
[21:32] <ducasse> V7: neon is unsupported here, try their channel
[21:32] <V7> Which one ?
[21:32] <Bashing-om> welcesr: Were me I would want my primary system on sda1 . The quick way here is just to RE-install xubuntu with the install option " erase disk and install ubuntu ' . Giving you a standard install . Npw if ya want th larning experience, that is something else .
[21:32] <V7> Also ... neon is based on Ubuntu
[21:32] <welcesr> ducasse: so I will end up with only one extended parition...sda2 with sda6 and swap inside it right? is that ok? do I need to select "bootable" or anything for sda2?
[21:32] <V7> Linux v7-x3 4.4.0-47-generic #68-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 26 19:39:52 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:32] <ducasse> apestate: #kde-neon, it seems
[21:32] <welcesr> Bashing-om: I was trying to avoid a resintall and fiddling with modifying everything again
[21:33] <V7> Thank you ...
[21:33] <V7> I hope they will answer me
[21:33] <welcesr> things are failry stable now and I didnt want to rock the boat and spend a day fixing everything...just need more space
[21:36] <Bashing-om> welcesr: Sure as ducasse says, you can delete sda1, expand sda2 into that now unallocated space, and then expand sda6 . 'buntu happily boots from within a logical partition . Pay attention to /etc/fstab what UUIDs get changed .
[21:38] <Bashing-om> welcesr: 121 Gigs is a lot of space ! .. What is the reason that more is required ? A thumb mark for ubuntu is 30 Gigs .
[21:38] <welcesr> media
[21:38] <welcesr> and I never use Elementary
[21:38] <Bashing-om> welcesr: Yeah .. that do say it all .. takes a lot of space .
[21:40] <Bashing-om> welcesr: Be aware in moving the partition left into what was sda1 one is also moving the paprtition table . Bad things can happen ! Be prepared with backups in the event of catastarophy .
[21:41] <Bashing-om> partition*
[21:41] <welcesr> all backed up
[21:42] <welcesr> data anyway....not configs etc as I dont know what to save and what will take problems with me if I change...so i just manually backup deta and media
[21:43] <Bashing-om> welcesr: K; be aware that in GParted, will need to "swap off " . to mess with the extended partition .
[21:43] <welcesr> thanks
[21:43] <V7> #kde-eon #kde-neon doesn't help me ...
[21:43] <V7> They said: they don't know (c)
[21:44] <ducasse> V7: well, neither do we, as you're not using ubuntu... 'based on' does not mean 'the same as'.
[21:45] <bread> hey guys! Needed help with conky
[21:45] <bread> I'm extremely new to ubuntu and conky, but it looked cool so I downloaded it
[21:46] <bread> it kinda screwed up because it didn't download a couple of files so i want to reinstall it
[21:46] <bread> how do I do that?
[21:46] <ducasse> bread: sudo apt install --reinstall conky
[21:47] <bread> i get this: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:47] <mozammel> hi, there is a process called "history.daemon'' eating up my cpu power, even I kill it from termial with root access, still its cant stop, the moment I kill it its just start with different PID. I'm using ubuntu 16.10.
[21:47] <ducasse> bread: is the ubuntu software thingy or something similar open?
[21:48] <bread> not really, just my internet browser
[21:48] <bread> let me retry
[21:48] <bread> oh wait, it somehow works now
[21:49] <bread> how weird
[21:50] <bread> okay, so after reinstalling conky, I usually got this setup screen
[21:50] <bread> it doesn't do that now
[21:50] <bread> do I simply restart my system?
[21:51] <ducasse> bread: setup screen? for what - conky?
[21:52] <bread> yeah ducasse
[21:52] <bread> usually it would ask me for my location, or something
[21:52] <ducasse> bread: no such thing here. which ubuntu version?
[21:52] <Plex_Dave> hey guys.  i have a file server in my living room with a small ssd for the os and another larger drive for my home folder.  i want to reinstall the os as it's acting hinky but I want to make sure to preserve my home folder.  all of what i have found on google is instructions for keeping a home folder on the same drive/partition.
[21:54] <bread> hmm okay
[21:56] <bread> because I want to make my desktop more "utilitarian" in a sense. Like, it'd be cool to have weather and such
[21:56] <franzer> bread, are you mistaking conky with conky-manager?
[21:56] <franzer> if i recall, conky-manager is the GUI program
[21:56] <bread> again, I am pretty much a newbie to this kind of stuff, so I wouldn't know the difference
[21:57] <franzer> if you're looking to get into conky, i would just search github, or r/unixporn for some good examples
[21:59] <xangua> bread: what desktop?
[22:00] <bread> what do you mean, xangua?
[22:01] <xangua> bread: what desktop environment you use?
[22:02] <bread> I'm planning on using Google Now or conky-vision
[22:02] <bread> using conky
[22:03] <bread> Harmattan also looks pretty guud
[22:09] <yoann_> biRd74
[22:16] <greuh> Hey everyone! Are some of you using F.LUX software? I would really like to adjust my screen brightness in addition to running f.lux. My screen brightness is set to maximum when I launch it..
[22:17] <Plex_Dave> hey guys.  i have a file server in my living room with a small ssd for the os and another larger drive for my home folder.  i want to reinstall the os as it's acting hinky but I want to make sure to preserve my home folder.  all of what i have found on google is instructions for keeping a home folder on the same drive/partition.
[22:18] <wafflejock> !flavors | bread
[22:19] <wafflejock> bread, there are different desktop environments or graphical shells for the operating system, Unity is the default with regular Ubuntu, other popular ones are Gnome, KDE, XFCE, Mate, the list of flavors are distributions that start with those desktop environments
[22:20] <wafflejock> greuh, personally use redshift not sure about that issue redshift seems to always just be based on the current time when I launch it
[22:26] <greuh> It's funny because I just tried Redshift and it is the exact same issue
[22:26] <greuh> the filter is applied but brightness can not be adjust
[22:28] <wafflejock> Plex_Dave, would just do the install with the 1 drive hooked up then copy the new home folder over to the external drive after everything is running on the system and update the /home to mount it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[22:28] <greuh> brightness is set to maximum so it produces more light than without
[22:32] <wafflejock> greuh, yeah don't think it is actually supposed to touch the brightness just the warmth -"Redshift has a brightness adjustment setting, but it does not work the way most people might expect. In fact it is a fake brightness adjustment obtained by manipulating the gamma ramps, which means that it does not reduce the backlight of the screen. Preferable only use it if your normal backlight adjustment is too coarse-grained."
[22:33] <greuh> absolutely
[22:34] <greuh> But on my windows laptop I can reduce my backlight in addition to running f.Lux who adjust the gamma ramps
[22:34] <greuh> on my Ubuntu 16.04 it is just damaging my eyes
[22:34] <greuh> FULL backlight with warms colors still burns your eyes .. lol
[22:35] <wafflejock> heh yeah I'd take the backlight dimming over the tint personally
[22:35] <wafflejock> on my system it doesn't seem to affect the backlight dimming though so must be some driver/hardware related thing
[22:37] <Plex_Dave> gotcha, thanks!
[22:42] <jnoob22> After having done an upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04, I see there are about 1200+ packages that have not been upgraded. What can I do to get these installed?
[22:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, that sounds about right
[22:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, or kind of
[22:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, actsually really would probably expect it to upgrade like everything on upgrade
[22:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> however even so may be some or moe updates to install after woulds
[22:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, are you sure it really upgraded?
[22:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, between 14.04 and 16.04 there would be quite a few changes, so having 1402 packages to upgrade may actsually be more for a whole new version of Ubuntu
[22:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !release
[22:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> no no that, there's a command to check the version
[22:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !version
[22:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, also nothing you can do really, but to install those packages, which will take time of course
[22:55] <bray90820> Do you think ubuntu would be a good platform to use for a router
[23:00] <bear_> ayyy
[23:00] <bear_> Ubuntu Budgie is a official flavour
[23:00] <bear_> why doesn't it have a irc channel?
[23:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_, no Ubuntu budgie is nearly an offical flavour
[23:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_, as of 17.04 it will become offical
[23:01] <bear_> Stupid question time.
[23:01] <bear_> for Ubuntu flavours in general, is it safe to do a apt-get dist-upgrade from version to version
[23:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_, support for it, can then happen here proerply as well. there's a ppa for 16.04 and 16.10 though I belive
[23:02] <bear_> So from 16.10 -> whatever is next
[23:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yes
[23:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> but as long as you only do lts to lts
[23:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or non lts to the next non lts
[23:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> no trying to skip some in between non lts versibion
[23:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_, also n trying to downgrade versions, thats totally not supported and ma ybreak your system as the bot uhmm is about to uhmm
[23:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> tell you
[23:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !downgrade
[23:03] <bear_> what
[23:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_, 16.10 to 17.04 when releaed is ok
[23:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> to upgrade
[23:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> trying to upgrade from 16.04 to 17.04 on the other hand,  is not supported,  your meant to go through 16.10 first
[23:04] <bear_> SebthreeBQM10HD, why did you go on about downgrating then...?
[23:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and trying to go back some version, is not supported
[23:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_, 3 things in 1.  the 3rd you werebn't really asking about, but thought would be good to put in as well, since quite related
[23:04] <jnoob22> SebthreeBQM10HD, well it *showed* as upgrade when you run cat /etc/issue
[23:04] <jnoob22> but obviously not all packages were done.
[23:05] <jnoob22> running it now (dist-upgrade)
[23:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, could you pastebin the terminal out put ?
[23:05] <PasNox> Evening, I’m having issue crossbuilding Qt for windows via MinGW32 on ubuntu 16.04, this cause internal compiler error (cc1plus), this issue is reproducible with both Ubuntu 15.10 and 16.04 ? This kind of invocation make it crash: https://paste.kde.org/pfp0ldhex/wol88s - Any idea ?
[23:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !pastebin
[23:05] <bear_> SebthreeBQM10HD, I know I can't go back
[23:05] <jnoob22> SebthreeBQM10HD, too late now ;-)
[23:05] <bear_> well, I can and I can't.
[23:05] <bear_> It depends on the mechanism I use
[23:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_, well there is a way to do the unsupported things I expect, but yes not a good idea
[23:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, ok so it's upgrading the new packages, or already done ?
[23:06] <bear_> SebthreeBQM10HD, snapshots
[23:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, just make suer it's all up to date and should be fine
[23:06] <elky> bear_: it does have a channel. it's #ubuntu-budgie. it doesn't have many people in it though, their dev team is on a gitter (no i don't know the details sorry)
[23:06] <bear_> What is gitter?!
[23:07] <bear_> ; - ;
[23:07] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_, I meant otherwise, but sure,  if had btfs, which is also not default file system.  would possibly have snapshots
[23:07] <bear_> SebthreeBQM10HD, iirc XFS has it as well
[23:07] <bear_> I can also use ZFS
[23:08] <jnoob22> SebthreeBQM10HD, thanks (y)
[23:08] <bear_> Only a fool would use BTRFS in it's current state
[23:08] <bray90820> Does ubuntu sport the AWUS036NH wifi adapter?
[23:08] <kk4ewt> and lvm can do snapshoots
[23:08] <bear_> bray90820, what's the chipset?
[23:08] <bear_> kk4ewt, ye :)
[23:08] <bear_> I always do a encrypted LVM setup
[23:08] <kk4ewt> bray90820,  what chipsets does that have
[23:08] <bray90820> kk4ewt: No idea but the manufacture is alfa
[23:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_, well that's all debatlabe how ready it is or not to be a default file system.  one mobile LInux based os at least has done it, and I think, one dekstop Linux disro so far,  but this is off topic now
[23:09] <BlueShark> Plugging in your laptop to power 24x7 is bad for the battery?
[23:09] <bear_> SebthreeBQM10HD, It's not debatable.
[23:09] <bear_> BTRFS's own developers declare it not production ready because it has a very bad habit of loosing data without warning
[23:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> jnoob22, ok everything upgraded now then ?
[23:10] <jnoob22> SebthreeBQM10HD, still going
[23:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ok
[23:11] <armija> z
[23:11] <bear__> I'm back
[23:11] <bear__> my connection dropped after I said BTRFS isn't debatable stability wise
[23:12] <bear__> now I'm wondering, is there a nice tool to make snapshots of my disk in the event I need to roll back?
[23:13] <bear__> by nice tool I mean with a GUI.
[23:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_ no don't th8ink so or s such
[23:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_ its more a file system thing i think
[23:13] <Peppernrino> anybody know the IP of ppa.launchpad.net?
[23:13] <Peppernrino> for adding to hosts
[23:13] <bear__> SebthreeBQM10HD, remember if you don't know the answer never answer the question
[23:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_ roll back eh.  even if I had snap shots I don't think I would need to use usally at all really, especially with seperate /home
[23:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bear_ a  bit like with Virualbox the snapshot option is thre, but never had much of a reason to use that if at all really so far
[23:15] <bear__> SebthreeBQM10HD, I have reason to use it
[23:15] <bear__> I've trashed my setup a few times now
[23:17] <bear__> I don't think I've ever backed up / maintained a linux box I've worked on
[23:18] <bear__> I've also never used it as my daily driver due to shit hardware compatibility with my desktop
[23:26] <welcesr> Trying to get mp3 plugin for soundconverter but the appplication's site instrucitons dont work and the askubuntu solutution here dont work as it says that package is no longer available sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[23:26] <welcesr> Package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[23:26] <welcesr> from this link https://askubuntu.com/questions/740736/how-to-add-mp3-encoder-in-sound-converter-ubuntu-15-10-14-10-or-14-04
[23:26] <Dako300> welcesr: try apt-cache search gstreamer and see if there is a newer version available
[23:27] <Dako300> Also, you may need to enable some extra repositories (uncomment deb lines in /etc/apt/sources.list)
[23:27] <matsasc> welcesr: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[23:27] <welcesr> xubuntu 16.04
[23:28] <welcesr> can I pastebin you the output? I have no idea which would be the correct one as a few have similar strings
[23:28] <Dako300> sure, just post a link here
[23:28] <matsasc> try gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly it's in the repos
[23:28] <welcesr> Dako300: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23801218/
[23:29] <Dako300> welcesr: listen to matsasc
[23:29] <welcesr> giving that a shot thanks
[23:31] <welcesr> my apt update is stuck here 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.91.23)]   is that bad?
[23:31] <welcesr> im a monkey typing things in without the smarts to know whay all the time
[23:32] <matsasc> just give it time, if it times out try and use another mirror
[23:32] <welcesr> ok thanks
[23:33] <welcesr> cool that plugin worked...how did you know which one in that output to use? There were several variations of plugiins
[23:33] <ice9> i have postfix and rsyslog, I'm getting "failed  to write to log file" in both syslog and mail.log, all mails are queued and not deliverd.
[23:34] <matsasc> welcesr: the name of the package is the same except the version number
[23:35] <matsasc> ice9: give the user that runs postfix permissions to write to the logfiles
[23:35] <welcesr> so is there a way to make sure apt pulls the most current automatically?
[23:36] <welcesr> of just doing the apt-cache search is the best way?
[23:36] <Dako300> Typically, there are packages that redirect to the latest version, not sure if that's a thing with gstreamer
[23:39] <inra> hello everyone, I was looking for the commands first to get a list of all installed packages in my current system, and then to install all of them at once on another system. online posts about this seem to offer different answers, so I'd like to make sure here which one works smooth
[23:40] <inra> and, if possible, packages that are installed by me only
[23:41] <bray90820> If I were to run this command "sudo ddrescue -D --force '/media/data/ubuntu-mate-16.04-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi.img' /dev/sdd" would it choose sdd1?
[23:44] <turista> how can I see the links in the repository?¿
[23:45] <metaresolve> I need help. I'm following the postgresql tutorial and it's telling me about a file called "advanced.sql" that's in a folder somewhere named "tutorial." I've been trying the find command to find the file but I don't know what directory it's in at all. Can someone help?
[23:46] <Dako300> find | grep advanced
[23:46] <tomreyn> inra: dpkg --get-selections > ~/Package.list; sudo dpkg --set-selections < ~/Package.list; dselect
[23:47] <ikonia> metaresolve: by any chance is this so you cn create virtual users in postfix ?
[23:47] <tomreyn> ...the first command you run on the system which already has your desired softwar einstallted. the remaining two (separated by ';') you run on the system where you'll install your software on.
[23:49] <tomreyn> inra: http://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/how-to-backup-settings-and-list-of-installed-packages for details. you might also want to store the debconf questions you had responded to when you installed those packages instially: debconf-get-selections >> file; debconf-set-selections << file
[23:49] <tomreyn> *initially
[23:53] <Hetachi> Hi guys, I have an issue with cronjob, I am not pro at linux ubuntu, so I really hope someone can help me out, I can't figure out how to make sure cronjobs are running
[23:54] <PasNox> According to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mingw-w64, there is a version 4.0.4-2 available for xenial, but i only have old 4.0.2-4, and i’m up to ate. how i cna get this update ?
[23:55] <beneter> Hetachi: What's your issue?+
[23:56] <Hetachi> beneter, the issue is, I have no idea wether the crontab is failing or it does not run the command at all
[23:57] <beneter> Hetachi: try it: * * * * * touch ~/test
[23:58] <beneter> and wait one minute
[23:58] <Hetachi> beneter, should I remove my own line ?
[23:58] <Hetachi> or commenting it out would do the trick too
[23:58] <metaresolve> ikonia, I don't understand?
[23:58] <beneter> Hetachi: Commenting should be enough
[23:59] <beneter> Hetachi: you know, you should always use "crontab -e" right?
[23:59] <ikonia> metaresolve: that file is not a standard postfix file
[23:59] <ikonia> metaresolve: so I'm assuming the tutorial is trying to do something like setup virtual users into a rdbms or something like that
[23:59] <metaresolve> no, i think it's just a bunch of tables
[23:59] <Hetachi> beneter, yes that is the only way I edit it