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[00:21] <KurousagiMK2> ‎valorie‎: this it? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/libmarblewidget-qt5-23
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[00:25] <valorie> KurousagiMK2: yes
[00:25] <valorie> see the post on kubuntu-devel though -- I don't know how to answer the question
[00:30] <clivejo> need more info
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[00:30] <clivejo> what package is he trying to install
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[00:35] <acheronuk> he doesn't say
[00:35] <clivejo> kinda need to know that :P
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[02:12] <valorie> clivejo, acheronuk: asked
[02:12] <valorie> also, acheronuk, did you notice you got some patches for 5.7.1+dfsg-3 ?
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[04:38] <DarinMiller> I suspect nobody is here, but I thought I would try anyways....
[04:38] <DarinMiller> Looking into the calligra warnings on KCI: Noticed it's version 2.9 same as debian based on qt4.  v3.0 is qt5 and is in debian experimental.  Can we pull from debian experimental.
[04:38] <DarinMiller> ?
[04:41] <DarinMiller> Also, the calligra KCI console reports missing optional packages not found ( https://paste.ubuntu.com/23802348/ ) . How are deps handled for optional packages?
[06:17] <himcesjf> Hi, I am running Kubuntu 16.10 and I followed the channel topic link - http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ -> Kubuntu Smoke Tests -> Touchpad Management ->testing forms
[06:17] <himcesjf> There is minor mistake in instructions in the form
[06:18] <himcesjf> Change the behaviour of the "One Finger" setting to Middle Button, hit Apply, then tap with a single finger on the "Click Me" button on the right -- this is fine but
[06:18] <himcesjf> Change the behaviour of the "Two Fingers" setting to Middle Button, hit Apply, then tap with a single finger on the "Click Me" button on the right -- should be read as "tap with two fingers"
[06:18] <himcesjf> Change the behaviour of the "Three Fingers" setting to Middle Button, hit Apply, then tap with a single finger on the "Click Me" button on the right -- should be read as "tap with three fingers"
[06:19] <himcesjf> It says tap with single finger for all
[06:37] <valorie> ah, I wonder if I have the permissions to fix that
[06:40] <valorie> oh, that's in Google Docs
[06:40] <himcesjf> GoogleForms, yes
[06:41] <valorie> sitter: did you make those forms?
[06:41] <valorie> if so, can you share them with me?
[06:41] <valorie> oh, look at the hour, I'll email him
[06:46] <valorie> thank you for that, himcesjf
[06:46] <himcesjf> Sure thing
[06:50] <valorie> are you interested in helping us out, himcesjf?
[06:50] <himcesjf> Yep, went through Trello boards and QA link but Package Docs link - https://is.gd/zco9ne - asks for username and pw which I don't have
[06:52] <valorie> that's your KDE Identity
[06:52] <himcesjf> I would like to know about packaging and would like to see if I can help with packaging
[06:52] <valorie> Trello has it's own accounts -- we hope to move onto Free infra
[06:52] <himcesjf> So that link was the only way I suppose
[06:52] <valorie> do you have a KDE Identity?
[06:52] <himcesjf> No
[06:53] <valorie> really
[06:53] <valorie> gosh, everything but bko is tied to your KDE identity
[06:53] <valorie> https://identity.kde.org
[06:54] <valorie> use your real name
[06:54] <himcesjf> Oh, I think I did register there in past
[06:54] <himcesjf> Right, I have it. I forgot
[06:54] <valorie> great
[06:54] <himcesjf> Use my real name as username?
[06:55] <valorie> that won't work on bugs.kde.org, but it works everywhere else
[06:55] <valorie> yes please
[06:56] <himcesjf> Sure, let me see what I had set in past
[08:47] <acheronuk> valorie: patches where? for which Qt package?
[09:21] <Mirv> it's happening!
[09:27] <acheronuk> Mirv: it is????? :)
[09:29] <acheronuk> oooooh!
[09:34] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:34] <acheronuk> just got a email saying my previous bug on gold linker is 'fixed' so LP has picked up that transition :)
[09:34] <acheronuk> lordievader: indeed it is :)
[09:36] <lordievader> Hey acheronuk, doing good, I think?
[09:37] <acheronuk> yep. or at least a good start to a Sunday anyway.
[09:37]  * acheronuk wonders if it goes downhill from here
[09:37] <lordievader> :)
[10:33] <acheronuk> soee: morning
[11:35] <mparillo> Good morning. When LTS users experience problems, we generally ask them to try the backports PPA. Yesterday, my son wanted his super key to work, so I installed backports over 16.04. Just as was the case when I tested it a while ago, the Application Launcher shortcuts were lost, so I could not shut down that way. I could not even start the konsole that way. I had to use krunner to launch a konsole and sudo poweroff.
[11:35] <mparillo> Is there an easier way? A more systemd way?
[11:41] <acheronuk> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemctl.html
[11:41] <acheronuk> systemctl reboot ?
[11:42] <acheronuk> never tried it....
[11:53] <mparillo> Thanks. But if it is normal for major Plasma upgrades to lose some App Launcher shortcuts, do we need to add that in our standard Backports announcements?
[11:56] <acheronuk> mparillo: Not lost any in the upgrades I've tried
[12:10] <mparillo> OK, thanks
[13:07] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all\
[14:03] <clivejo> acheronuk: you about?
 @clivejo, Later maybe
[14:23] <clivejo> ok
[14:23]  * clivejo watches digikam build
[14:53] <clivejo> yipppeeee
[14:53] <clivejo> digikam built on arm64 :)
 Nice
[15:57] <clivejo> and released!
[15:57] <clivejo> !info digikam zesty
[16:08] <clivejo> hi DarinMiller
 @clivejo, :)
[16:10] <clivejo> stupid bot!
 is it?
[16:11] <clivejo> yeah, takes ages to update :P
 oh, yes
 @DarinMiller, KCI unstable branch for calligra says 3.0.0.1 here
[16:13] <clivejo> @acheronuk would you have time today to go through apps
 go through in what sense? noting which sources are PIM and which are not?
 @DarinMiller, KCI unstable branch for calligra says 3.0.0.1 here
[16:19] <clivejo> splitting out PIM and ones that won't build
[16:20] <clivejo> doing an upload of the ones that look good
[16:21] <clivejo> PIM will have to be uploaded by an MOTU anyways due to all the NEW packages from the splits
 I expect this evening, yes
[16:21] <clivejo> Id like to split them into three groups, GOOD, PIM and WIP
 ok
[16:24] <clivejo> any idea on when you be free?
 My main PC running zesty upgraded to Qt 5.7.1 without hitch :)
 @clivejo, ummm... 7pm onwards seems likely
[16:24] <clivejo> too much wine?!?
 give or take a margin if error
 @clivejo, I wish
[16:26] <DarinMiller> G'morning/afternoon.  I missed whoever mentioned me prior to Rik's 9:16 comment (laptop locked up when unplugged).
[16:27] <ejat> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[16:27] <ejat>   kde-style-qtcurve-qt5 
[16:27]  * DarinMiller wishes Nvidia would fix their video drivers for hybrid laptops.  GPU's should not fall off the bus when power is unplugged.
[16:28] <clivejo> Nvidia should do a lot more for Open Source, but dont
 @DarinMiller, No prob. I was just replying to your comment last night, as clivejo saying hello to you presumably meant you were about now
[16:28] <DarinMiller> Agreed!
[16:30] <clivejo> DarinMiller: what were you looking at will calligra?
[16:30] <clivejo> with
 @ejat, that package depends on the Qt ABI it was compiled on, so any upgrade of Qt version needs that rebuilt. so I guess you are hitting that issue somewhere.
 Fwd from DarinMiller: <DarinMiller> Looking into the calligra warnings on KCI: Noticed it's version 2.9 same as debian based on qt4.  v3.0 is qt5 and is in debian experimental.  Can we pull from debian experimental.
[16:32] <clivejo> I read that, but don't understand
[16:32] <ejat> @acheronuk so i should wait for all compiled ? 
 @ejat, what Qt are you upgrading from where?
[16:33] <clivejo> it should be 3.0.0.1 in KCI
[16:33] <Mirv> acheronuk: nice that everything seems pretty smooth!
[16:33] <DarinMiller> KCI flagged calligra with build warnings so I started investigating.
[16:34] <Mirv> ejat: acheronuk: qtcurve has been recompiled (otherwise the release pocket migration would not have happened), it should not be removed though either. maybe some PPAs in use?
[16:34] <ejat> acheronuk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23805249/
[16:36] <ejat> Mirv: i dont use any kubuntu currently
[16:36] <clivejo> ejat: what dist version are you using?
[16:37] <ejat> clivejo: zesty
 @Mirv, yep, kde-style-qtcurve-q5 upgraded fine with Qt 5.7.1 and works great here. I use that mostly for my UI, so really pay attention to that one
[16:38] <clivejo> ejat: with or without poroposed?
[16:38] <ejat> without proposed
[16:39] <Mirv> double-checked, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/amd64/kde-style-qtcurve-qt5/1.8.18+git20160320-3d8622c-3build1~4 has qtbase-abi-5-7-1
 @ejat, maybe you had a version with a higher version from a ppa somewhere, so it removed rather than upgraded when the ABI broke?
[16:39]  * DarinMiller notes that qt 5.7.1 is working spendidly on his zesty box also.
[16:40] <Mirv> this is a problem that's really hard to debug without being at the computer :)
[16:40] <Mirv> DarinMiller: nice!
[16:40] <Mirv> ejat: pastebin apt-cache policy libqt5core5a ?
 ejat: 'sudo apt-get install kde-style-qtcurve-q5=1.8.18+git20160320-3d8622c-3build1~4'
[16:40] <KurousagiMK2>  kde-style-qtcurve-qt5 depend libqtcurve-utils2, out there do not have one http://paste.ubuntu.com/23805249/
[16:41] <ejat> Mirv: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23805296/
[16:41] <Mirv> just in case, to check that no suggestions come from any PPA and one of them (to be upgraded to) is the newest 5.7.1+dfsg-2ubuntu1~8 
[16:41] <Mirv> ejat: right, looks correct
[16:42] <ejat> acheronuk: E: Unable to locate package kde-style-qtcurve-q5
[16:42] <Mirv> acheronuk: qt5, not q5
[16:42] <Mirv> sorry, I meant ejat ^
 ejat Mirv: I had to bump qtxureve version for backports etc. coudl be I chose a migher version schem than you did for the qt 5.7.1 rebuilt one
[16:43] <ejat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23805312/
 ejat: I may have mistyped that package name on telegram
[16:43] <Mirv> ejat: ah, right, that means you have the qtcurve from some PPA with higher number, ok, problem solved
[16:43] <ejat> acheronuk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23805312/
[16:44] <ejat> Mirv: i just proceed ? 
[16:44] <ejat> downgrade the qt?
[16:44] <Mirv> ejat: nothing is removed, lots is upgraded, yes that's usually a good thing. maybe try dist-upgrading then after that still to be sure.
[16:45] <Mirv> ejat: downgrade one package, which actually is an upgrade but just to a version number that happens to be lower :)
 yes, and disable the ppa the higher version came from if it is still active
[16:45] <ejat> ok .. 
[16:45] <Mirv> right, if dist-upgrade says something about removing again, don't proceed
[16:45] <Mirv> but try to find some offending PPA to disable
 Mirv: we should probably comminate on such version bumps in the future, but there are so many things to think about I did not consider mentioning it
 even if they are only bumped in ppas
[16:47] <Mirv> acheronuk: yes, there are many things to think about with Qt always :) too many..
 indeed!
[16:48] <Mirv> having an automated versioning scheme that's logical helps. I've used the ~2 etc for archive rebuilds, but for xenial-overlay PPA I use ~~xenial1 for example which is always lower than any with one ~
 Mirv: I think I also grabbed a new qtcurve git snapshot from debian for the backports, which I assumed/hoped would get synced from debaoin to zesty, and maybe it has not yet, so you rebuild was on the old version?
 will have to check later
[16:55] <Mirv> acheronuk: Debian has an old version from last May too, but the same is in Ubuntu
[16:55] <Mirv> no Ubuntu changes -> automatic syncing
[16:55] <Mirv> (and I use the "buildN~2" syntax for my rebuilds which preserves the automatic syncing)
 umm. maybe not then :/
[17:04] <clivejo> Sput: In quassel 0.12.4 why do certain users private messages disappear until they reply?
[17:30] <clivejo> !jenkins
[17:33] <clivejo> DarinMiller: can you see what is wrong with discover on KCI?
[17:45] <DarinMiller> clivejo:  checking on Discover shortly.....
[17:47] <clivejo> no prob, g2g for a bit myself
[18:37] <acheronuk> clivejo: if I run kdesrcbuild, these are the PIM repos it wants to clone and build http://paste.ubuntu.com/23805994/
[19:10] <clivejo> is prison not a framework?
[19:15] <acheronuk> It is. I pulled the latest metadata and kdesrcbuild output "Building prison from kde-pim (6/56)"
[19:15] <acheronuk> so that is a bit out of date
[19:15] <acheronuk> with anything like that, you need to sanity check the list
[19:16] <acheronuk> that paste was just 'kdesrc-build kde-pim --pretend | grep Building | awk '{print $2}' | pastebinit'
[19:17] <acheronuk> so raw output filters a bit to show packagenames
[19:18] <DarinMiller> qq: reviewing the disover console output: dh_install: plasma-discover-common missing files: usr/share/plasmadiscover/*
[19:18] <DarinMiller> but usr/share/plasmadiscover/* is in the .install file.  
[19:19] <acheronuk> DarinMiller: it is, yes
[19:20] <DarinMiller> next error: /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/3/dhmk.mk:112: recipe for target 'debian/dhmk_install' failed
[19:20] <DarinMiller> so need to add usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/3/ directory?
[19:20] <clivejo> DarinMiller: see above that, you have a list of all the files being built
[19:21] <DarinMiller> looking...
[19:21] <acheronuk> dh_install installs the files built by the build according to the .install files
[19:21] <clivejo>  dh_install: plasma-discover-common missing files: usr/share/plasmadiscover/*
[19:22] <clivejo> so dh_install is processing that package plasma-discover-common
[19:22] <clivejo> and the install file is plasma-discover-common.install
[19:22] <acheronuk> so it's telling you that the install files expect to find files with that path to install, but they are "missing" in what was built 
[19:22] <clivejo> its trying to find a match with usr/share/plasmadiscover/*
[19:22] <clivejo> but not finding anything
[19:23]  * acheronuk zips it so not to confuse
[19:25]  * DarinMiller 's middle name is "Confusion"
[19:26] <clivejo> it is very confusing, as there are two types of missing files
[19:27] <clivejo> basically you have list-missing which is a built file, but no install file tells it where to be installed
[19:27] <DarinMiller> reviewing console output and attempting to digest...
[19:28] <clivejo> and this one where the install file references it, but the compiled/built files dont exist
[19:28] <DarinMiller> but usr/share/plasmadiscover/* is in plasma-discover-common.install
[19:28] <clivejo> yes
[19:28] <DarinMiller> OK, let keep looking....
[19:28] <clivejo> but if you look at the list of files the source is creating
[19:28] <acheronuk> look at the list of files that were actually built
[19:29] <clivejo> there are none actually matching that pattern
[19:29] <acheronuk> and their paths
[19:43] <clivejo> DarinMiller: do you understand?
[19:44] <clivejo> The solution is to remove the line which is trying to install files which are not being built any more
[19:47] <DarinMiller> So the error/warning is not telling us it's unable to install, it's saying it has nothing to install in the specified directory (usr/share/plasmadiscover/*)?
[19:48] <DarinMiller> so remove usr/share/plasmadiscover/*?
[19:49] <clivejo> there used to be files in there
[19:49] <clivejo> but due to recent change, those files arent there any more
[19:52] <DarinMiller> Makes sense. I was attempting to rectifiy an existance (need to park files somewhere but can't) issue as opposed to an "absense" issue (clean up after yourself).
[19:52] <clivejo> This is the package in the last build - http://paste.ubuntu.com/23806409/
[19:53] <clivejo> The used to be a file called usr/share/plasmadiscover/featured.json
[19:53] <DarinMiller> So why does the build process not create the needed install dir's dynamically?
[19:53] <clivejo> which that line was installing into plasma-discover-common
[19:53] <DarinMiller> one lonely featured.json file is no longer used....
[19:53] <clivejo> upstream developers have decided to do away with that file
[19:54] <clivejo> I would assume they made it dynamic
[19:54] <clivejo> and gets updated from the interwebs
[19:56] <acheronuk> DarinMiller: as packagers often have good reason to pick and choose what files to install, what package to put them in, and even where to install them
[19:56] <DarinMiller> why does debian packaging have .install files that are not auto generated by the build process.  That would take care of this issue.  I can understand if you wanted to overrided the default install location, then use a .install for override.
[19:57] <clivejo> Debian is very strict on what goes where
[19:58] <clivejo> we have -dev, -common, -data packages to organise where to put things
[19:58] <DarinMiller> Problem understood.  Fixing now...
[19:58] <acheronuk> some very simple packages don't have .install files so everything just goes to the default place in the one resultant .deb
[19:59] <acheronuk> but most need things separating out
[19:59] <clivejo> and some very complex ones have loads of packages all generated from the single source!
[20:00] <acheronuk> old PIM!
[20:00] <acheronuk> calligra
[20:00] <clivejo> and its a real headache trying to work out what goe where
[20:00] <DarinMiller> oh, ok so what i was saying is possible, but the deb packages we inherit add some "excitement" to our lives.
[20:01] <clivejo> not just some
[20:01] <clivejo> shed loads
[20:01] <acheronuk> big sheds at that
[20:01] <acheronuk> almost small warehouses
[20:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_umbrello build #155: STILL UNSTABLE in 18 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_umbrello/155/
[20:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_umbrello build #81: STILL UNSTABLE in 19 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_umbrello/81/
[20:08]  * DarinMiller looking forward to small warehouses of excitement
[20:10] <clivejo> take one warehouse at a time!
[20:11] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_umbrello build #184: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_umbrello/184/
[20:13] <clivejo> ahoneybun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUhvKTq6c40
[20:15] <DarinMiller> submittin mp... what is the "Target reference path" .... kubuntu-unstable?
[20:16] <DarinMiller> ^g
[20:16] <clivejo> yup#
[20:16] <clivejo> remember a changelog entry
[20:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_umbrello build #82: STILL UNSTABLE in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_umbrello/82/
[20:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_umbrello build #156: STILL UNSTABLE in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_umbrello/156/
[20:22] <DarinMiller> MP complete: dch comment added and as well as git commit -m "pertinent comment here".  Let me know if I missed something.
[20:24] <acheronuk> into ~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/akonadi-calendar-tools
[20:24] <acheronuk> eek! ^^^
[20:26] <acheronuk> target set wrongly I guess
[20:27] <DarinMiller> weird.... attempting to fix...
[20:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_umbrello build #185: STILL UNSTABLE in 17 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_umbrello/185/
[20:32] <DarinMiller> Fixed: https://code.launchpad.net/~darinsmiller/kubuntu-packaging/+git/discover/+ref/kubuntu_unstable
[20:33] <DarinMiller> not sure how the akonadi-calendar-tools link ended up there...
[20:50] <valorie> wow, busy Sunday! y'all have been productive
[21:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[21:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_discover build #106: FIXED in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_discover/106/
[21:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[21:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_discover build #116: FIXED in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_discover/116/
[21:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[21:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_discover build #104: FIXED in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_discover/104/
[21:37] <clivejo> having connection problems DarinMiller?
[21:38] <DarinMiller> Moved my laptop back to the computer room. GPU fell of the bus again when laptop lost power.
[21:40] <valorie> :(
[21:44] <jokwvgf> hello
[21:45] <clivejo> hi jokwvgf
[21:45] <jokwvgf> anyone here?
[21:45] <jokwvgf> does kubuntu have uefi on the 32bit image?
[21:46] <jokwvgf> hey clivejo
[21:46] <jokwvgf> how's max?
[21:46] <mparillo> I do not think the 32-bit image supports UEFI.
[21:46] <jokwvgf> i have a table with windows 8
[21:47] <jokwvgf> an dit only has 32bit cpu
[21:47] <jokwvgf> i need to get rid pf windows
[21:48] <jokwvgf> clivejo have ypu finished the tuica?
[21:49] <clivejo> He's fine
[21:49] <clivejo> the what?
[21:49] <jokwvgf> dont tell them who i am
[21:49] <clivejo> I dunno who you are!
[21:49] <jokwvgf> oh...
[21:54] <jokwvgf> any ideas on how i v
[21:54] <jokwvgf> i can boot kubuntu on this thing?
[21:56] <DarinMiller> jokwvgf: Did  you try disabling UEFI in the BIOS?
[21:56] <jokwvgf> DarinMiller: that doesnt make sense
[21:57] <jokwvgf> you mean secure boot, right?
[21:58] <jokwvgf> clivejo, i just have 32bit with uefi
[21:58] <jokwvgf> on the cpu support
[21:58] <DarinMiller> jokwvgf: yes
[21:58] <jokwvgf> the problem isnt booting, its.... booting.... err... after...
 Get out you troll
[22:00] <jokwvgf> fine... bye
[22:00] <valorie> that was very strange
 What?
[22:01] <clivejo> Ovi, why so rude?
 He was annoying
[22:02] <clivejo> I agree, but no need to say it!
 Well he knows he can't boot 32 bit uefi
[22:02] <clivejo> trolls are people too
[22:04] <clivejo> and a fellow Aridian judging from its IP
 I hate that guy
 Aridian?
[22:04] <clivejo> Aradian
[22:04] <clivejo> someone from Arad
 Ah...
 Yeah I know
[22:05]  * clivejo nods knowingly
 He's in my house now
[22:05] <clivejo> kick him out in the cold
 Doing it now
 Out in the snow with him
[22:06] <clivejo> and file an abuse report with his ISP
[22:08] <valorie> playing games with yourself, ovidiuflorin?
 clivejo is in kahoots with him
[22:09]  * sintre is now really confused
[22:09] <clivejo> me?
 Yes
[22:09] <clivejo> I only met him once, in Berlin
[22:09] <clivejo> hes crazy I tell ya
 I know
 That's why I kicked him out
[22:10] <clivejo> he shouldnt be allowed our of Romania 
[22:10] <clivejo> out
[22:11] <clivejo> or anywhere near a Steak House
 That reminds me
 I'm hungry
[22:12] <clivejo> its 11:12pm !!
 Not here
 Here it's later
[22:13] <clivejo> 0:13am?
[22:14] <clivejo> or is that 12:13am
[22:14]  * clivejo gets confused
 0
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0aiGPWhz/file_1756.jpg
[22:15] <valorie> I thought it was Makita stores he has to be kept away from?
[22:15] <valorie> oh dear
[22:15] <clivejo> ovidiuflorin: why did you miss the devel chat yesterday?
[22:15] <valorie> that looks too much like the final product
 What devel chat?
[22:16] <clivejo> not gonna say what that looks like
[22:16] <clivejo> yup
[22:16] <clivejo> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2017-January/011080.html
 I'm very behind with my emails
 I'm afraid to open it
[22:20] <clivejo> does anyone know how to check if you have hidden a conversation in quassel
[22:21] <clivejo> for some reason I keep Darin's conversation open
[22:21] <clivejo> I cant keep
[22:21] <clivejo> once I go out of his conversation he disappears
 What happened yesterday?
[22:22] <clivejo> We started a fork
[22:22] <clivejo> KDEUbuntu
 Wtf?
[22:23] <clivejo> LOL
[22:23] <clivejo> nah, just chatted about Qt and road blockers, how to proceed etc
[22:24] <clivejo> acheronuk has done some tests and apparently we might not need gpgme for FW5.30
 We do for pim
[22:25] <clivejo> valorie: the Community ML seems to be quite positive now, how would we go about requesting Phab project?
 Pinged the sysadmins for that I
[22:26] <clivejo> yes, I think we'll have to do a partial upload of apps (ie minus PIM)
 Is that possible?
[22:26] <clivejo> should be
[22:26] <clivejo> Phil talked about it in the past
[22:26] <clivejo> Id like to get the other apps in ASAP
[22:27] <clivejo> kdenlive, games, etc
[22:29] <clivejo> BTW who is our nominated tester master person?
[22:29] <clivejo> was it wxl?
[22:34] <clivejo> valorie: do you know?
[22:36] <valorie> I never heard of a post called "tester master person"
[22:37] <valorie> clivejo: putting in a sysadmin request for the phab board is on my today's todo
[22:37] <clivejo> to opt in to the alpha 2
[22:37] <valorie> nobody did that yet, correct?
[22:37] <valorie> clivejo: I'll ping the KC again to give wxl the nod as the release manager
[22:37] <clivejo> there was a conversation about putting a name forward
[22:38] <valorie> right, but it got about two or three +1
[22:38] <valorie> and then died out
[22:38] <valorie> and the active packagers Kubuntu Developers didn't chime in as I recall
[22:38]  * clivejo looks around
[22:39] <valorie> Max ain't gonna post for you, dude
[22:40] <clivejo> is wxl willing to co-ordinate it?
[22:41] <clivejo> is he not the Lubuntu nomination as well?
[22:41] <valorie> he offered, yes
[22:42] <valorie> he also does Lubuntu, although was planning to hand it to Simon
[22:42] <clivejo> well get the paperwork done :P
[22:42] <valorie> not sure what that plan is now
[22:42] <valorie> I'll ask if he's still willing
[22:45]  * clivejo pushes wxl into the spotlight
[22:56] <valorie> sysadmin request filed
 where does quassel store its config?
 @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie right click on any chat
 Select show all
 Make sure the chat you want is enabled
 Fully!
[23:07] <clivejo> it doesnt appear in the chat list 
[23:26] <clivejo> can I get some people on xenial and yakkety to test digiKam 5.4 - launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/digikam/
[23:27] <valorie> ah, I should get my xenial box working again
[23:28] <valorie> right after I write the email re: RM wxl