[00:00] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_plasma-workspace build #146: STILL FAILING in 49 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_plasma-workspace/146/ [00:00] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdepim-runtime build #84: STILL FAILING in 37 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdepim-runtime/84/ [00:00] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:00] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdepim-addons build #159: FIXED in 37 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdepim-addons/159/ [00:00] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:00] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_libkleo build #63: FIXED in 17 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_libkleo/63/ [00:00] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_ktp-common-internals build #176: STILL FAILING in 17 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_ktp-common-internals/176/ [00:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kproperty build #16: STILL FAILING in 18 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kproperty/16/ [00:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_pimcommon build #58: STILL FAILING in 18 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_pimcommon/58/ [00:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkleo build #111: STILL FAILING in 19 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkleo/111/ [00:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_pimcommon build #45: FIXED in 17 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_pimcommon/45/ [00:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdb build #24: STILL FAILING in 19 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdb/24/ [00:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_dolphin build #183: FIXED in 17 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_dolphin/183/ [00:10] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:10] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libgravatar build #80: FIXED in 8 min 46 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libgravatar/80/ [00:10] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_marble build #126: STILL FAILING in 59 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_marble/126/ [00:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdepim-apps-libs build #38: FIXED in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdepim-apps-libs/38/ [00:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdepim-runtime build #71: STILL FAILING in 25 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdepim-runtime/71/ [00:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kleopatra build #66: FIXED in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kleopatra/66/ [00:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_khtml build #165: STILL FAILING in 20 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_khtml/165/ [00:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_libksieve build #90: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_libksieve/90/ [00:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_incidenceeditor build #99: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_incidenceeditor/99/ [00:21] ‎valorie‎: this it? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/libmarblewidget-qt5-23 [00:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdepim-runtime build #85: STILL FAILING in 17 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdepim-runtime/85/ [00:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_messagelib build #103: FIXED in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_messagelib/103/ [00:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_mailcommon build #70: FIXED in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_mailcommon/70/ [00:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:24] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libksieve build #89: FIXED in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libksieve/89/ [00:25] KurousagiMK2: yes [00:25] see the post on kubuntu-devel though -- I don't know how to answer the question [00:30] need more info [00:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_plasma-workspace build #147: STILL FAILING in 25 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_plasma-workspace/147/ [00:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_ktp-common-internals build #177: STILL FAILING in 24 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_ktp-common-internals/177/ [00:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_eventviews build #40: FIXED in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_eventviews/40/ [00:30] what package is he trying to install [00:31] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_incidenceeditor build #38: STILL FAILING in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_incidenceeditor/38/ [00:35] he doesn't say [00:35] kinda need to know that :P [00:37] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdepim-runtime build #72: STILL FAILING in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdepim-runtime/72/ [00:37] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:37] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_mailcommon build #53: FIXED in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_mailcommon/53/ [00:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_messagelib build #139: STILL FAILING in 27 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_messagelib/139/ [00:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_calendarsupport build #53: FIXED in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_calendarsupport/53/ [00:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_marble build #127: STILL FAILING in 35 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_marble/127/ [00:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_incidenceeditor build #39: STILL FAILING in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_incidenceeditor/39/ [00:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kmbox build #240: FIXED in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kmbox/240/ [00:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_akonadi-contacts build #115: FIXED in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_akonadi-contacts/115/ [00:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [00:57] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_akonadi-search build #77: FIXED in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_akonadi-search/77/ [01:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kwin build #128: STILL FAILING in 31 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kwin/128/ [01:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kreport build #35: STILL FAILING in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kreport/35/ [01:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kcalutils build #107: FIXED in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kcalutils/107/ [01:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_akonadi-mime build #126: FIXED in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_akonadi-mime/126/ [01:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kldap build #262: FIXED in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kldap/262/ [01:12] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_messagelib build #140: STILL FAILING in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_messagelib/140/ [01:19] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kreport build #36: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kreport/36/ [01:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_eventviews build #54: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_eventviews/54/ [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_knotes build #60: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_knotes/60/ [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_akonadi-import-wizard build #36: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_akonadi-import-wizard/36/ [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_mbox-importer build #52: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_mbox-importer/52/ [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_pim-storage-service-manager build #53: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_pim-storage-service-manager/53/ [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_pim-data-exporter build #57: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_pim-data-exporter/57/ [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_pim-sieve-editor build #49: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_pim-sieve-editor/49/ [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_akonadiconsole build #35: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_akonadiconsole/35/ [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_akonadi-calendar-tools build #49: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_akonadi-calendar-tools/49/ [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kalarm build #63: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kalarm/63/ [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_blogilo build #63: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_blogilo/63/ [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_grantlee-editor build #62: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_grantlee-editor/62/ [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_akonadi-calendar build #75: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_akonadi-calendar/75/ [01:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kmail-account-wizard build #41: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kmail-account-wizard/41/ [01:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kontact build #55: FIXED in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kontact/55/ [01:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kaddressbook build #52: FIXED in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kaddressbook/52/ [01:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_akregator build #63: FIXED in 23 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_akregator/63/ [01:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_korganizer build #47: NOW UNSTABLE in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_korganizer/47/ [01:38] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kwin build #129: STILL FAILING in 31 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kwin/129/ [01:41] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:41] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kmail build #71: FIXED in 20 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kmail/71/ [01:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [01:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdepim-addons build #94: FIXED in 33 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdepim-addons/94/ [02:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [02:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_calendarsupport build #65: FIXED in 9 min 13 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_calendarsupport/65/ [02:12] clivejo, acheronuk: asked [02:12] also, acheronuk, did you notice you got some patches for 5.7.1+dfsg-3 ? [02:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_akonadi-calendar build #62: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_akonadi-calendar/62/ [02:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_mailcommon build #71: STILL FAILING in 19 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_mailcommon/71/ [02:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_akonadi-calendar build #63: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_akonadi-calendar/63/ [02:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_mailcommon build #72: STILL FAILING in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_mailcommon/72/ [02:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kpimtextedit build #166: STILL FAILING in 9 min 10 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kpimtextedit/166/ [02:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [02:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kimap build #192: FIXED in 9 min 11 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kimap/192/ [02:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [02:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkdepim build #62: FIXED in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkdepim/62/ [02:55] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kpimtextedit build #167: STILL FAILING in 7 min 37 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kpimtextedit/167/ [02:55] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [02:55] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kmbox build #202: FIXED in 8 min 11 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kmbox/202/ [02:55] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [02:55] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_krunner build #165: FIXED in 8 min 40 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_krunner/165/ [03:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [03:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kldap build #171: FIXED in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kldap/171/ [03:07] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkleo build #112: STILL FAILING in 12 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkleo/112/ [03:14] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_akonadi build #284: STILL FAILING in 27 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_akonadi/284/ [03:28] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkleo build #113: STILL FAILING in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkleo/113/ [03:41] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_akonadi build #285: STILL FAILING in 22 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_akonadi/285/ [03:56] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kwallet build #207: STILL FAILING in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kwallet/207/ [04:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kwallet build #208: STILL FAILING in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kwallet/208/ [04:38] I suspect nobody is here, but I thought I would try anyways.... [04:38] Looking into the calligra warnings on KCI: Noticed it's version 2.9 same as debian based on qt4. v3.0 is qt5 and is in debian experimental. Can we pull from debian experimental. [04:38] ? [04:41] Also, the calligra KCI console reports missing optional packages not found ( https://paste.ubuntu.com/23802348/ ) . How are deps handled for optional packages? [06:17] Hi, I am running Kubuntu 16.10 and I followed the channel topic link - http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ -> Kubuntu Smoke Tests -> Touchpad Management ->testing forms [06:17] There is minor mistake in instructions in the form [06:18] Change the behaviour of the "One Finger" setting to Middle Button, hit Apply, then tap with a single finger on the "Click Me" button on the right -- this is fine but [06:18] Change the behaviour of the "Two Fingers" setting to Middle Button, hit Apply, then tap with a single finger on the "Click Me" button on the right -- should be read as "tap with two fingers" [06:18] Change the behaviour of the "Three Fingers" setting to Middle Button, hit Apply, then tap with a single finger on the "Click Me" button on the right -- should be read as "tap with three fingers" [06:19] It says tap with single finger for all [06:37] ah, I wonder if I have the permissions to fix that [06:40] oh, that's in Google Docs [06:40] GoogleForms, yes [06:41] sitter: did you make those forms? [06:41] if so, can you share them with me? [06:41] oh, look at the hour, I'll email him [06:46] thank you for that, himcesjf [06:46] Sure thing [06:50] are you interested in helping us out, himcesjf? [06:50] Yep, went through Trello boards and QA link but Package Docs link - https://is.gd/zco9ne - asks for username and pw which I don't have [06:52] that's your KDE Identity [06:52] I would like to know about packaging and would like to see if I can help with packaging [06:52] Trello has it's own accounts -- we hope to move onto Free infra [06:52] So that link was the only way I suppose [06:52] do you have a KDE Identity? [06:52] No [06:53] really [06:53] gosh, everything but bko is tied to your KDE identity [06:53] https://identity.kde.org [06:54] use your real name [06:54] Oh, I think I did register there in past [06:54] Right, I have it. I forgot [06:54] great [06:54] Use my real name as username? [06:55] that won't work on bugs.kde.org, but it works everywhere else [06:55] yes please [06:56] Sure, let me see what I had set in past [08:47] valorie: patches where? for which Qt package? [09:21] it's happening! [09:27] Mirv: it is????? :) [09:29] oooooh! [09:34] Good morning [09:34] just got a email saying my previous bug on gold linker is 'fixed' so LP has picked up that transition :) [09:34] lordievader: indeed it is :) [09:36] Hey acheronuk, doing good, I think? [09:37] yep. or at least a good start to a Sunday anyway. [09:37] * acheronuk wonders if it goes downhill from here [09:37] :) [10:33] soee: morning === Guest31059 is now known as him-cesjf [11:35] Good morning. When LTS users experience problems, we generally ask them to try the backports PPA. Yesterday, my son wanted his super key to work, so I installed backports over 16.04. Just as was the case when I tested it a while ago, the Application Launcher shortcuts were lost, so I could not shut down that way. I could not even start the konsole that way. I had to use krunner to launch a konsole and sudo poweroff. [11:35] Is there an easier way? A more systemd way? [11:41] https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemctl.html [11:41] systemctl reboot ? [11:42] never tried it.... [11:53] Thanks. But if it is normal for major Plasma upgrades to lose some App Launcher shortcuts, do we need to add that in our standard Backports announcements? [11:56] mparillo: Not lost any in the upgrades I've tried [12:10] OK, thanks [13:07] Hiyas all\ [14:03] acheronuk: you about? [14:16] @clivejo, Later maybe [14:23] ok [14:23] * clivejo watches digikam build [14:53] yipppeeee [14:53] digikam built on arm64 :) [15:17] Nice [15:57] and released! [15:57] !info digikam zesty [15:57] digikam (source: digikam): digital photo management application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.14.0-4ubuntu6 (zesty), package size 2407 kB, installed size 10235 kB [16:08] hi DarinMiller [16:10] @clivejo, :) [16:10] stupid bot! [16:11] is it? [16:11] yeah, takes ages to update :P [16:11] oh, yes [16:13] @DarinMiller, KCI unstable branch for calligra says 3.0.0.1 here [16:13] @acheronuk would you have time today to go through apps [16:14] go through in what sense? noting which sources are PIM and which are not? [16:16] @DarinMiller, KCI unstable branch for calligra says 3.0.0.1 here [16:19] splitting out PIM and ones that won't build [16:20] doing an upload of the ones that look good [16:21] PIM will have to be uploaded by an MOTU anyways due to all the NEW packages from the splits [16:21] I expect this evening, yes [16:21] Id like to split them into three groups, GOOD, PIM and WIP [16:23] ok [16:24] any idea on when you be free? [16:24] My main PC running zesty upgraded to Qt 5.7.1 without hitch :) [16:24] @clivejo, ummm... 7pm onwards seems likely [16:24] too much wine?!? [16:25] give or take a margin if error [16:25] @clivejo, I wish [16:26] G'morning/afternoon. I missed whoever mentioned me prior to Rik's 9:16 comment (laptop locked up when unplugged). [16:27] The following packages will be REMOVED: [16:27] kde-style-qtcurve-qt5 [16:27] * DarinMiller wishes Nvidia would fix their video drivers for hybrid laptops. GPU's should not fall off the bus when power is unplugged. [16:28] Nvidia should do a lot more for Open Source, but dont [16:28] @DarinMiller, No prob. I was just replying to your comment last night, as clivejo saying hello to you presumably meant you were about now [16:28] Agreed! [16:30] DarinMiller: what were you looking at will calligra? [16:30] with [16:30] @ejat, that package depends on the Qt ABI it was compiled on, so any upgrade of Qt version needs that rebuilt. so I guess you are hitting that issue somewhere. [16:32] Fwd from DarinMiller: Looking into the calligra warnings on KCI: Noticed it's version 2.9 same as debian based on qt4. v3.0 is qt5 and is in debian experimental. Can we pull from debian experimental. [16:32] I read that, but don't understand [16:32] @acheronuk so i should wait for all compiled ? [16:33] @ejat, what Qt are you upgrading from where? [16:33] it should be 3.0.0.1 in KCI [16:33] acheronuk: nice that everything seems pretty smooth! [16:33] KCI flagged calligra with build warnings so I started investigating. [16:34] ejat: acheronuk: qtcurve has been recompiled (otherwise the release pocket migration would not have happened), it should not be removed though either. maybe some PPAs in use? [16:34] acheronuk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23805249/ [16:36] Mirv: i dont use any kubuntu currently [16:36] ejat: what dist version are you using? [16:37] clivejo: zesty [16:37] @Mirv, yep, kde-style-qtcurve-q5 upgraded fine with Qt 5.7.1 and works great here. I use that mostly for my UI, so really pay attention to that one [16:38] ejat: with or without poroposed? [16:38] without proposed [16:39] double-checked, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/amd64/kde-style-qtcurve-qt5/1.8.18+git20160320-3d8622c-3build1~4 has qtbase-abi-5-7-1 [16:39] @ejat, maybe you had a version with a higher version from a ppa somewhere, so it removed rather than upgraded when the ABI broke? [16:39] * DarinMiller notes that qt 5.7.1 is working spendidly on his zesty box also. [16:40] this is a problem that's really hard to debug without being at the computer :) [16:40] DarinMiller: nice! [16:40] ejat: pastebin apt-cache policy libqt5core5a ? [16:40] ejat: 'sudo apt-get install kde-style-qtcurve-q5=1.8.18+git20160320-3d8622c-3build1~4' [16:40] kde-style-qtcurve-qt5 depend libqtcurve-utils2, out there do not have one http://paste.ubuntu.com/23805249/ [16:41] Mirv: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23805296/ [16:41] just in case, to check that no suggestions come from any PPA and one of them (to be upgraded to) is the newest 5.7.1+dfsg-2ubuntu1~8 [16:41] ejat: right, looks correct [16:42] acheronuk: E: Unable to locate package kde-style-qtcurve-q5 [16:42] acheronuk: qt5, not q5 [16:42] sorry, I meant ejat ^ [16:43] ejat Mirv: I had to bump qtxureve version for backports etc. coudl be I chose a migher version schem than you did for the qt 5.7.1 rebuilt one [16:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/23805312/ [16:43] ejat: I may have mistyped that package name on telegram [16:43] ejat: ah, right, that means you have the qtcurve from some PPA with higher number, ok, problem solved [16:43] acheronuk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23805312/ [16:44] Mirv: i just proceed ? [16:44] downgrade the qt? [16:44] ejat: nothing is removed, lots is upgraded, yes that's usually a good thing. maybe try dist-upgrading then after that still to be sure. [16:45] ejat: downgrade one package, which actually is an upgrade but just to a version number that happens to be lower :) [16:45] yes, and disable the ppa the higher version came from if it is still active [16:45] ok .. [16:45] right, if dist-upgrade says something about removing again, don't proceed [16:45] but try to find some offending PPA to disable [16:46] Mirv: we should probably comminate on such version bumps in the future, but there are so many things to think about I did not consider mentioning it [16:46] even if they are only bumped in ppas [16:47] acheronuk: yes, there are many things to think about with Qt always :) too many.. [16:48] indeed! [16:48] having an automated versioning scheme that's logical helps. I've used the ~2 etc for archive rebuilds, but for xenial-overlay PPA I use ~~xenial1 for example which is always lower than any with one ~ [16:53] Mirv: I think I also grabbed a new qtcurve git snapshot from debian for the backports, which I assumed/hoped would get synced from debaoin to zesty, and maybe it has not yet, so you rebuild was on the old version? [16:53] will have to check later [16:55] acheronuk: Debian has an old version from last May too, but the same is in Ubuntu [16:55] no Ubuntu changes -> automatic syncing [16:55] (and I use the "buildN~2" syntax for my rebuilds which preserves the automatic syncing) [16:56] umm. maybe not then :/ [17:04] Sput: In quassel 0.12.4 why do certain users private messages disappear until they reply? [17:30] !jenkins [17:30] Sorry, I don't know anything about jenkins [17:33] DarinMiller: can you see what is wrong with discover on KCI? [17:45] clivejo: checking on Discover shortly..... [17:47] no prob, g2g for a bit myself [18:37] clivejo: if I run kdesrcbuild, these are the PIM repos it wants to clone and build http://paste.ubuntu.com/23805994/ [19:10] is prison not a framework? [19:15] It is. I pulled the latest metadata and kdesrcbuild output "Building prison from kde-pim (6/56)" [19:15] so that is a bit out of date [19:15] with anything like that, you need to sanity check the list [19:16] that paste was just 'kdesrc-build kde-pim --pretend | grep Building | awk '{print $2}' | pastebinit' [19:17] so raw output filters a bit to show packagenames [19:18] qq: reviewing the disover console output: dh_install: plasma-discover-common missing files: usr/share/plasmadiscover/* [19:18] but usr/share/plasmadiscover/* is in the .install file. [19:19] DarinMiller: it is, yes [19:20] next error: /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/3/dhmk.mk:112: recipe for target 'debian/dhmk_install' failed [19:20] so need to add usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/3/ directory? [19:20] DarinMiller: see above that, you have a list of all the files being built [19:21] looking... [19:21] dh_install installs the files built by the build according to the .install files [19:21] dh_install: plasma-discover-common missing files: usr/share/plasmadiscover/* [19:22] so dh_install is processing that package plasma-discover-common [19:22] and the install file is plasma-discover-common.install [19:22] so it's telling you that the install files expect to find files with that path to install, but they are "missing" in what was built [19:22] its trying to find a match with usr/share/plasmadiscover/* [19:22] but not finding anything [19:23] * acheronuk zips it so not to confuse [19:25] * DarinMiller 's middle name is "Confusion" [19:26] it is very confusing, as there are two types of missing files [19:27] basically you have list-missing which is a built file, but no install file tells it where to be installed [19:27] reviewing console output and attempting to digest... [19:28] and this one where the install file references it, but the compiled/built files dont exist [19:28] but usr/share/plasmadiscover/* is in plasma-discover-common.install [19:28] yes [19:28] OK, let keep looking.... [19:28] but if you look at the list of files the source is creating [19:28] look at the list of files that were actually built [19:29] there are none actually matching that pattern [19:29] and their paths [19:43] DarinMiller: do you understand? [19:44] The solution is to remove the line which is trying to install files which are not being built any more === himcesjf is now known as Guest24223 [19:47] So the error/warning is not telling us it's unable to install, it's saying it has nothing to install in the specified directory (usr/share/plasmadiscover/*)? [19:48] so remove usr/share/plasmadiscover/*? [19:49] there used to be files in there [19:49] but due to recent change, those files arent there any more [19:52] Makes sense. I was attempting to rectifiy an existance (need to park files somewhere but can't) issue as opposed to an "absense" issue (clean up after yourself). [19:52] This is the package in the last build - http://paste.ubuntu.com/23806409/ [19:53] The used to be a file called usr/share/plasmadiscover/featured.json [19:53] So why does the build process not create the needed install dir's dynamically? [19:53] which that line was installing into plasma-discover-common [19:53] one lonely featured.json file is no longer used.... [19:53] upstream developers have decided to do away with that file [19:54] I would assume they made it dynamic [19:54] and gets updated from the interwebs [19:56] DarinMiller: as packagers often have good reason to pick and choose what files to install, what package to put them in, and even where to install them [19:56] why does debian packaging have .install files that are not auto generated by the build process. That would take care of this issue. I can understand if you wanted to overrided the default install location, then use a .install for override. [19:57] Debian is very strict on what goes where [19:58] we have -dev, -common, -data packages to organise where to put things [19:58] Problem understood. Fixing now... [19:58] some very simple packages don't have .install files so everything just goes to the default place in the one resultant .deb [19:59] but most need things separating out [19:59] and some very complex ones have loads of packages all generated from the single source! [20:00] old PIM! [20:00] calligra [20:00] and its a real headache trying to work out what goe where [20:00] oh, ok so what i was saying is possible, but the deb packages we inherit add some "excitement" to our lives. [20:01] not just some [20:01] shed loads [20:01] big sheds at that [20:01] almost small warehouses [20:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_umbrello build #155: STILL UNSTABLE in 18 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_umbrello/155/ [20:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_umbrello build #81: STILL UNSTABLE in 19 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_umbrello/81/ [20:08] * DarinMiller looking forward to small warehouses of excitement [20:10] take one warehouse at a time! [20:11] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_umbrello build #184: STILL UNSTABLE in 24 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_umbrello/184/ [20:13] ahoneybun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUhvKTq6c40 [20:15] submittin mp... what is the "Target reference path" .... kubuntu-unstable? [20:16] ^g [20:16] yup# [20:16] remember a changelog entry [20:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_umbrello build #82: STILL UNSTABLE in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_umbrello/82/ [20:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_umbrello build #156: STILL UNSTABLE in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_umbrello/156/ [20:22] MP complete: dch comment added and as well as git commit -m "pertinent comment here". Let me know if I missed something. [20:24] into ~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/akonadi-calendar-tools [20:24] eek! ^^^ [20:26] target set wrongly I guess [20:27] weird.... attempting to fix... [20:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_umbrello build #185: STILL UNSTABLE in 17 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_umbrello/185/ [20:32] Fixed: https://code.launchpad.net/~darinsmiller/kubuntu-packaging/+git/discover/+ref/kubuntu_unstable [20:33] not sure how the akonadi-calendar-tools link ended up there... [20:50] wow, busy Sunday! y'all have been productive [21:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [21:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_discover build #106: FIXED in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_discover/106/ [21:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [21:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_discover build #116: FIXED in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_discover/116/ [21:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed! [21:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_discover build #104: FIXED in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_discover/104/ [21:37] having connection problems DarinMiller? [21:38] Moved my laptop back to the computer room. GPU fell of the bus again when laptop lost power. [21:40] :( [21:44] hello [21:45] hi jokwvgf [21:45] anyone here? [21:45] does kubuntu have uefi on the 32bit image? [21:46] hey clivejo [21:46] how's max? [21:46] I do not think the 32-bit image supports UEFI. [21:46] i have a table with windows 8 [21:47] an dit only has 32bit cpu [21:47] i need to get rid pf windows [21:48] clivejo have ypu finished the tuica? [21:49] He's fine [21:49] the what? [21:49] dont tell them who i am [21:49] I dunno who you are! [21:49] oh... [21:54] any ideas on how i v [21:54] i can boot kubuntu on this thing? [21:56] jokwvgf: Did you try disabling UEFI in the BIOS? [21:56] DarinMiller: that doesnt make sense [21:57] you mean secure boot, right? [21:58] clivejo, i just have 32bit with uefi [21:58] on the cpu support [21:58] jokwvgf: yes [21:58] the problem isnt booting, its.... booting.... err... after... [22:00] Get out you troll [22:00] fine... bye [22:00] that was very strange [22:00] What? [22:01] Ovi, why so rude? [22:01] He was annoying [22:02] I agree, but no need to say it! [22:02] Well he knows he can't boot 32 bit uefi [22:02] trolls are people too [22:04] and a fellow Aridian judging from its IP [22:04] I hate that guy [22:04] Aridian? [22:04] Aradian [22:04] someone from Arad [22:04] Ah... [22:05] Yeah I know [22:05] * clivejo nods knowingly [22:05] He's in my house now [22:05] kick him out in the cold [22:06] Doing it now [22:06] Out in the snow with him [22:06] and file an abuse report with his ISP [22:08] playing games with yourself, ovidiuflorin? [22:08] clivejo is in kahoots with him [22:09] * sintre is now really confused [22:09] me? [22:09] Yes [22:09] I only met him once, in Berlin [22:09] hes crazy I tell ya [22:10] I know [22:10] That's why I kicked him out [22:10] he shouldnt be allowed our of Romania [22:10] out [22:11] or anywhere near a Steak House [22:12] That reminds me [22:12] I'm hungry [22:12] its 11:12pm !! [22:13] Not here [22:13] Here it's later [22:13] 0:13am? [22:14] or is that 12:13am [22:14] * clivejo gets confused [22:14] 0 [22:15] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0aiGPWhz/file_1756.jpg [22:15] I thought it was Makita stores he has to be kept away from? [22:15] oh dear [22:15] ovidiuflorin: why did you miss the devel chat yesterday? [22:15] that looks too much like the final product [22:15] What devel chat? [22:16] not gonna say what that looks like [22:16] yup [22:16] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2017-January/011080.html [22:18] I'm very behind with my emails [22:18] I'm afraid to open it [22:20] does anyone know how to check if you have hidden a conversation in quassel [22:21] for some reason I keep Darin's conversation open [22:21] I cant keep [22:21] once I go out of his conversation he disappears [22:22] What happened yesterday? [22:22] We started a fork [22:22] KDEUbuntu [22:22] Wtf? [22:23] LOL [22:23] nah, just chatted about Qt and road blockers, how to proceed etc [22:24] acheronuk has done some tests and apparently we might not need gpgme for FW5.30 [22:25] We do for pim [22:25] valorie: the Community ML seems to be quite positive now, how would we go about requesting Phab project? [22:26] Pinged the sysadmins for that I [22:26] yes, I think we'll have to do a partial upload of apps (ie minus PIM) [22:26] Is that possible? [22:26] should be [22:26] Phil talked about it in the past [22:26] Id like to get the other apps in ASAP [22:27] kdenlive, games, etc [22:29]