[00:04] <daftykins> argh that compression artefacting o0
[00:34] <zmoylan-pi> a little part of me always hopes that these 8 bit geniuses is committing cyber crime just so when the police raid them they have to go through their entire speccy mag cover tape collection looking for incriminating data... :-P
[09:10] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:22] <foobarry> my 3yr old daughter drew a picture for her brother for his birthday
[09:23] <foobarry> http://imgur.com/nRnfgKh NEVER SLEEP AGAIN
[09:27] <davmor2> All the people, Zombie people, all walk hand in hand, hand in hand through their dead life!
[09:28] <davmor2> foobarry: you have a goth in the making, that or your own series of sixth sense and she sees dead people ;)
[09:28] <foobarry> its just a pretty picture of her family and dog in pink
[09:29] <davmor2> foobarry: it's not actually that bad a picture :)
[09:29] <davmor2> foobarry: at least you can tell they are people :)
[09:43] <brobostigon> morning boys nd girls.
[10:04] <JamesTait> Good morning all, and happy Blue Monday! 😁
[10:24]  * zmoylan-pi puts on blue monday by new order... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYH8DsU2WCk
[11:03] <davmor2> JamesTait: now that this has been ruined on 2 channels I'll again go with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kobdb37Cwc :D
[12:17] <diplo> Afternoon all, just thought I'd probe here before going to far how you guys would sync a table between 2 mysql servers each night, just a plain old dump and restore in a script ?
[12:17] <diplo> Not sure it's worth the effort of replication being setup
[12:31] <Safiyyah> Hi all, I am trying to connect to my desktop remotely using the X2go client
[12:32] <Safiyyah> I am infront of both machines, it seems that I don't have a complete understanding of the hostname
[12:32] <Safiyyah> my desktop is called safiyyah-desktop and my laptop is called safiyyah-laptop
[12:33] <Safiyyah> however that isn't going through
[12:34] <foobarry> anyone played with raspberry pi/ardunio and motors ? want to perhaps control a knex thing withit
[12:36]  * brobostigon puts his hand up and says, "arduino"
[12:36] <popey> Safiyyah: often your home connection router won't resolve them like that, but might if you add ".local" on them, so safiyyah-desktop.local and safiyyah-laptop.laptop
[12:39] <Safiyyah> that didn't work
[12:39] <Safiyyah> :(
[12:41] <foobarry> brobostigon: any exp with knex motors?
[12:42] <brobostigon> foobarry: last project was to control hydraulic motors. not that i recall, sorry.
[12:57] <popey> Safiyyah: another option is to set a fixed IP either on each machine or in the dhcp settings on the router (if you have access)
[13:23] <Safiyyah> popey 1 issue is that they both have the same ip address
[13:23] <popey> heh
[13:23] <popey> that's suboptimal
[13:23] <foobarry> what is the IP?
[13:23] <foobarry> 169.254...
[13:24] <foobarry> 127.0.0.1 ...:P
[13:24] <Safiyyah> 127.0.1.1
[13:24] <Safiyyah> the local is 127.0.0.0
[13:25] <Safiyyah> but both machines are on 127.0.1.1
[13:25] <popey> they probably have more than one IP address
[13:26] <foobarry> what is your outpout from ifconfig command
[13:26] <popey> click network manager in the top right, and choose connection information
[13:26] <popey> look in the tab for your wired or wireless connection
[13:27] <Safiyyah> that says wired connection 1
[13:28] <Safiyyah> laptop is on wi-fi
[13:30] <Safiyyah> calling virginmedia for info on accessing router
[13:38] <popey> yes, in wired connection 1
[13:38] <popey> you should see a section "IPv4" and under that "IP Address:"
[13:38] <popey> that's your computer IP
[13:39] <popey> you should find similar on the other computer, but it will say the name of the wireless network you're on
[13:39] <popey> Safiyyah: e.g. http://imgur.com/a/PpNv3
[14:03] <Safiyyah> popey, yes, I have it and access to my router
[14:04] <Safiyyah> now it's how to enter the information onto x2go correctly
[14:19] <diddledan> new pi compute module: https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/compute-module-3-launch/
[14:44]  * zmoylan-pi wonders how big the pi compute community is compared to the regular community
[14:49] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: more specialised at a guess so I would imagine 20% as many users maybe, but I would imaging that device using pi built in are more likely to be pi compute
[15:03] <Safiyyah> popey It tried my IP address as a hostname and nothing still
[15:04] <popey> Safiyyah: sorry, I've never used x2go
[15:24] <Azelphur> Ah, nothing like waking up in the morning to a dead 5TB drive. :< https://dpaste.de/paxg
[15:25] <Azelphur> mdadm handled it like a champ though, removed the drive from the array and nagios has bleeted at me
[15:26] <diddledan> \o/
[15:28] <Azelphur> ordered another one off ebuyer, drop it in and go in theory, it's a RAID6 so everything is still chugging along
[15:40] <Laney> i wonder if anything would tell me if one of my raided drives failed
[16:09] <Safiyyah> popey what do you use?
[16:09] <popey> I don't :)
[16:09] <popey> I never have the need to remotely control another desktop.
[16:10]  * diddledan remotely controls popey's desktop
[16:10]  * diddledan makes the pointer spell-out rude words
[16:17] <Azelphur> Laney: depends, whats your setup?
[16:19] <Laney> Azelphur: md
[16:19] <Azelphur> Laney: well, when a drive failed mdadm would remove it
[16:20] <Azelphur> and put the array in a degraded state
[16:20] <Azelphur> if you don't have anything on top of that to monitor mdadm, then no, you'd never know
[16:20] <diddledan> ergh. why does sky/nowtv _still_ require silverlight?!
[16:20] <Laney> I know that md would handle it
[16:21] <Azelphur> should set up nagios or monit or something to let you know :)
[16:21] <Laney> Maybe something would stop the boot for example and shout at me
[16:21] <davmor2> Laney: yes the lack of noise in the room ;)
[16:23] <diplo> Laney: I used as Azelphur mentioned nagios to monitor a customers raid ( issues with a battery or something ) and got it to send alerts via telegram
[16:24] <Laney> diplo: it makes me say blerg
[16:24] <Laney> 10 years ago I would have been all over configuring that
[16:25] <Laney> now I want something in the system to do it for me by default :(
[16:25] <popey> pretty sure logwatch used to send me mails about raid failures
[16:25] <popey> that was near zero setup
[16:26] <Laney> I could go pull out a drive and see what happens
[16:26] <davmor2> Laney: still the noise when the noise stops somethings gone wrong ;)
[16:26] <Laney> something in the boot process or desktop ought to notice imho
[16:26] <Laney> davmor2: I spent quite some time making this computer very quiet :P
[16:27] <popey> oh, you don't currently have a failed drive?
[16:27] <Laney> nope
[16:27] <popey> pretty sure it does halt boot and put the message on screen
[16:27] <popey> c to continue, m to manually recover
[16:27] <Laney> I'm just wondering if I would know if one of them failed
[16:27] <Laney> nice
[16:27] <davmor2> Laney: log into it with byobu that tells you the state of raid if you enable the plugin I believe :)
[16:27] <Laney> I remember some "boot degraded" thing vaguely
[16:27] <popey> i had that on my home server and had to go and plug a screen in to find out which key to press
[16:28] <popey> could test this in kvm
[16:28] <popey> by creating a few disks and then boot with one missing
[16:28] <diplo> hah I had to do the same popey  :)
[16:28] <popey> interesting exercise
[16:28] <Laney> hmm
[16:29] <Laney> something generic in the desktop would be nice
[16:29] <Laney> could be a fun project
[16:30] <Laney> think udisks2 knows about smart and raid stuff
[16:30] <Laney> just got to surface that
[16:30] <Laney> mmmmmmmmmm
[16:30] <diplo> Edit mdadm.conf and stick the device and MAILADDR and then run mdadm --monitor --scan --daemonize
[16:30] <diplo> Done
[17:29] <Safiyyah> okay so I got things moving, with SSH I have access to the terminal on the desktop (even on putty) would like a graphical one, help please
[17:30] <Safiyyah> On x2go I am logging in but not to the live session, is there a way to log into the live session itself? like VNC on the phone?
[18:17] <daftykins> if anyone signs up to the retail ombudsman website, be prepared for many lulz
[18:18] <daftykins> i broke their site last night by putting a £ symbol in a text field
[18:38] <davmor2> daftykins: hahahahahahaha
[18:44] <daftykins> oh and you'll be emailed your password in plain text
[18:46] <davmor2> daftykins: what's the problem with that, they didn't add it to billboard up and down the country so it's perfectly safe right :D
[18:46] <daftykins> =]
[18:50] <diddledan> daftykins: did you try using Bobby Tables' name as your name?
[18:54] <daftykins> diddledan: i want to reply with that XD
[18:54] <daftykins> when i signed up right, it set my email to be <generated string>@myname.co.uk - utter madness
[18:55] <daftykins> he called it a 'glitch' that got fixed this morning
[21:05] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi