[00:00] <poco_> shit I should not have just run unity box. My desktop just crashed
[00:00] <binarydepth> jajaja lol
[00:00] <binarydepth> u serious ?
[00:01] <poco_> yeah
[00:01] <binarydepth> oooh...
[00:02] <binarydepth> can you still run commands ?
[00:03] <binarydepth> I'm curious about your dpkg version
[00:05] <poco_> I'm back
[00:06] <poco_> interesting bit, Discord whose icon was missing before is now showing upon reboot
[00:06] <poco_> ugh
[00:10] <rizonz> n4n0`: still around ?
[00:11] <rizonz> oh found not needed n4n0`
[00:15] <cuddle> top ubuntu tweak utilty pls
[00:15] <cuddle> to remove desktop icons and other configuration
[00:16] <malkauns> how do i get flash video to work in opera?
[00:16] <malkauns> cant see any video on sites like cnn.com and mashable.com etc.
[00:16] <malkauns> already have flashplugin-installer installed
[00:17] <malkauns> everything works fine in google-chrome but not opera
[00:19] <k1l_> cuddle: unity-tweak-tool
[00:19] <xangua> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/12/how-to-get-flash-and-h264-to-work-in.html?m=1 malkauns
[00:20] <malkauns> taking a look, thx
[00:21] <xangua> malkauns: mmm sorry, that doesn't appear to apply to the new opera chromium based
[00:21] <malkauns> hmm
[00:24] <darkish> hello!
[00:24] <darkish> im getting a error about not being able to load the driver swrast
[00:25] <darkish> libGL error: No matching fbConfigs or visuals found
[00:25] <darkish> libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast
[00:25] <darkish> those are my 2 erros
[00:25] <darkish> errors
[00:26] <TheNH813> So, can someone tell me why Steam dosen't open? It dies with REALLY ambiguous errors.
[00:27] <k1l_> TheNH813: open from terminal and see the exact errors
[00:27] <TheNH813> Or sometimes no error. Ubuntu 16.04. Steam from the regular repositories.
[00:27] <TheNH813> Will do.
[00:27] <TheNH813> Ok, it seems to want to redownload itself, so I'l let it update the
[00:28] <darkish> is there a lib or something i neeed to get rid of the libgl error?
[00:29] <TheNH813> What Software?
[00:29] <darkish> second life
[00:29] <k1l_> that got a native linux client?
[00:29] <darkish> yepp
[00:30] <TheNH813> Might be built with outdated libraries, or you need to reinstall Mesa/LibGL
[00:30] <darkish> ah wtf this pc has a windows partition why am i even bothering
[00:32] <TheNH813> Try "sudo apt-get reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libglapi-mesa libglu1 libglw1 libgl1"
[00:32] <TheNH813> Or install if they aren't installed.
[00:33] <TheNH813> k1l_: I'l tell you what Steam says in a couple seconds. Almost done updating.
[00:34] <darkish> ya they werent isntalled
[00:34] <TheNH813> That fix it?
[00:34] <darkish> no...:****(
[00:35] <darkish> same errors
[00:36] <TheNH813> k1l_: You know what? Steam seems to have fixed itself. Nevermind.
[00:36] <k1l_> darkish: what video driver is installed?
[00:36] <darkish> errr
[00:36] <darkish> how can i find out?
[00:37] <TheNH813> darkish: Let me check which libraries that game requires. I have a feeling it may be using odd versions.
[00:37] <darkish> lspcie?
[00:37] <k1l_> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[00:37] <darkish> TheNH813: i grabbed all the libs which was a pain in the ass
[00:37] <darkish> TheNH813: Kernel driver in use: nvidia
[00:37] <darkish> im using a gtx 1050
[00:37] <darkish> oops
[00:37] <darkish> k1l_: ^^
[00:38] <TheNH813> darkish: Well, if the libs are the wrong version (they built it using a newer or older version) it dosen't matter if they're installed, it simply won't work. there are workarounds for that tough. Which is why I'm downloaidng a copy of it to inspect it.
[00:39] <gerard72> I installed Ubuntu 16.10 and I was trying to install an app that needed me to login to UbuntuOne. It isn't accepting my password. I can login to the website just fine with the same password. This must be a known bug?
[00:39] <TheNH813> darkish: I also highly reccommend you install the "additional drivers" from the additional drivers utility. NVIDIA open source drivers are horrid, and cause massive lag.
[00:39] <k1l_> darkish: "dpkg -l |grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999"
[00:39] <darkish> TheNH813: i downloaded the closed source from the nividia site
[00:40] <darkish> k1l_: "use netcat"
[00:40] <TheNH813> Use the ones fromt he repositories, you it can cause... issues.
[00:40] <TheNH813> I experienced that myself.
[00:40] <k1l_> darkish: ah ok. maybe that is the issue. the ubuntu driver sould work
[00:40] <k1l_> the ubuntu nvidia driver
[00:40] <darkish> hm? but i checked the additional drivers and there wasnt anything
[00:41] <TheNH813> Really? Hm... maybe there's not a package yet for that card.
[00:41] <TheNH813> Then stick with the self extracting package drivers.
[00:41] <darkish> this driver hasnt been screen tearing or anything
[00:42] <darkish> honestly ill just use windows for this but thank you very much for the help
[00:42] <darkish> i have spent like 4 hours so far working on this
[00:42] <darkish> i give up
[00:43] <k1l_> well, you use the nvidia website driver. you cant blame ubuntu for that now. you would not blame windows if the nvidia site driver would make issues on windows.
[00:45] <lucie_> hey im no pro and i could need some help please. i want to install something without the terminal so i download the package from the website. when i open the downloadet package i just open the archivemenager. how can i install the zip?
[00:45] <TheNH813> darkish: Ah, Second Life is 32 bit. It needs the 32 bit versions of the libs. If you want to give it another try.
[00:45] <k1l_> lucie_: you dont install a .zip. open the zip and read the instructions in the readme
[00:46] <darkish> TheNH813: ik all the libs are i386
[00:46] <TheNH813> Ah, ok.
[00:47] <lucie_> good advice thx i try
[00:47] <k1l_> lucie_: you should look if ubuntu doesnt already provide that software in the ubuntu repos
[00:48] <lucie_> how?
[00:49] <k1l_> lucie_: "apt search something" to search for "something"
[00:49] <lucie_> thx
[00:52] <Jonno_FTW> I found a bug
[00:52] <tatertots> darkish: don't give up
[00:52] <Jonno_FTW> in rhythmbox,
[00:52] <darkish> tatertots: :*(
[00:52] <k1l_> Jonno_FTW: then report the bug
[00:53] <tatertots> darkish: can you do this in terminal> sudo apt install inxi
[00:53] <tatertots> darkish: just 4 simple words separated by a single white SPACE
[00:53] <tatertots> darkish: then press enter
[00:54] <darkish> ok
[00:54] <darkish> CPU~Quad core Intel Core i5-6400 (-MCP-) speed/max~915/3300 MHz Kernel~4.4.0-31-generic x86_64 Up~3:05 Mem~2921.3/7930.7MB HDD~1171.3GB(40.3% used) Procs~241 Client~Shell inxi~2.2.35
[00:54] <tatertots> darkish: did the install complete? yes or no
[00:54] <tatertots> darkish: no not exact as detailed as i'd like...try this
[00:55] <tatertots> darkish: inxi -Fxxrzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[00:55] <Jonno_FTW> k1l_: Rhythmbox:ERROR:rb-ext-db.c:364:impl_constructor: code should not be reached
[00:55] <darkish> tatertots: http://termbin.com/vw2d
[00:55] <tatertots> darkish: good job
[00:55] <darkish> im not a noob :*(
[00:56] <tatertots> darkish: i know you're not
[00:56] <darkish> :)
[00:57] <tatertots> darkish: 18:26:47 <darkish> libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast
[00:58] <darkish> ya
[00:58] <tatertots> darkish: is this a game or app that results in this error?.....if so please name the app or game
[00:58] <darkish> second life
[00:59] <Bashing-om> tatertots: darkish " System:    Host: G Kernel: 4.4.0-31-generic " note too that the system is not up2date .
[01:00] <bloody_puppet> hey Bashing-om !
[01:00] <tatertots> darkish: installed thru steam or from software manager or downloaded a tar.gz from their website???
[01:00] <Bashing-om> bloody_puppet: Howdy,
[01:00] <darkish> bloody_puppet: you what m8 i just downloaded this copy of ubuntu yesterday
[01:00] <darkish> tatertots: from thier site
[01:00] <bloody_puppet> darkish, you rang?
[01:01] <darkish> what?
[01:01] <bloody_puppet> darkish> bloody_puppet: you what m8 i just downloaded this copy of ubuntu yesterday
[01:01] <darkish> oopps
[01:01] <darkish> Bashing-om:
[01:01] <tatertots> darkish: do you launch the game using the gui from your menu? can you launch the game from terminal?
[01:01] <darkish> ^^
[01:01] <bloody_puppet> ET phone home..........
[01:01] <darkish> i launch it from terminal
[01:01] <bloody_puppet> ET phone hoooooome..........
[01:05] <tatertots> darkish: apt list --installed|grep nvid|nc termbin.com 9999
[01:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[01:05] <Guy1524> hey guys, how do I tell if an application is using vulkan or opengl as a renderer
[01:06] <darkish> tatertots: WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
[01:06] <tatertots> Guy1524: just check the renderer it's using
[01:06] <darkish> Use netcat
[01:06] <MDTech-us_MAN> Hello
[01:06] <tatertots> darkish: apt list --installed|grep nvid > ~/nfo.nfo
[01:06] <Guy1524> darkish: how would I use netcat to find out which renderer its using
[01:06] <k1l_> tatertots: he installed the driver from the website. so there is no nvidia package
[01:07] <MDTech-us_MAN> At the moment my Xorg is running at 12GB of ram.
[01:07] <darkish> Guy1524: that msg wasnt for you
[01:07] <MDTech-us_MAN> Whats up with that?
[01:07] <MDTech-us_MAN>  1371 root      20   0 11.453g 8.123g  20660 S   1.3 26.0 421:57.90 Xorg
[01:07] <Guy1524> oh, ok
[01:07] <darkish> tatertots: nothing happenas
[01:07] <darkish> tatertots: thank you but stop wasting your time helping me, if i really wanted it to work i would biooot into wincdows
[01:07] <tatertots> k1l_: thanks...didn't know he installed it like that...;)
[01:08] <tatertots> darkish: you want me to stop trying to help you?
[01:08] <MDTech-us_MAN> I run Windows 8.1 in a VirtualBox VM with 15GB of my 32GB dedicated to it and with 2 memory hogs like this I'm already out of ram
[01:09] <darkwind_> Hello! I was wondering if someone could help me in determining if a laptop would run linux? The model in question is the Dell Inspiron 3000 series laptop, specifically the 3179 model (late 2016). I've seen that prior models of the 3000 series with slightly different specs seem to be able to run ubuntu, albeit with some (possibly fixed?) issues. I haven't seen any information on this new model though, and it's a dealbreaker if I cann
[01:09] <darkish> tatertots: i mean like i have a win partition so i could just use that for this game
[01:11] <tatertots> darkish: are you able to open the nvidia utility from terminal?
[01:12] <xangua> darkwind_: this isn't really a hardware recommendation channel but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPre-installed
[01:12] <darkish> tatertots: i got nvidia settings along with some other stuff
[01:12] <darkish> i see opengl configuration
[01:13] <tatertots> darkish: ok close the nvidia util
[01:13] <darkish> ok
[01:13] <tatertots> darkish: in terminal>  nvidia-settings &>> ~/nfo.nfo
[01:13] <tatertots> darkish: if the nvidia util opens close it again
[01:14] <darkish> yea ok closed it
[01:14] <darkish> nothing else happend
[01:14] <tatertots> darkish: cat ~/nfo.nfo|nc termbin.com 9999
[01:14] <darkwind_> xangua: sorry, I didn't know where to go. Is there another channel that would be better to go to for help?
[01:14] <darkish> tatertots: "use netcat"
[01:14] <darkish> darkwind_: ##hardware
[01:15] <tatertots> darkish: sudo apt install pastebinit
[01:15] <darkwind_> darkish: Thank you very much :)
[01:16] <darkish> doen
[01:16] <darkish> done
[01:16] <tatertots> darkish: cat ~/nfo.nfo|pastebinit
[01:16] <darkish> tatertots: You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[01:17] <k1l_> tatertots: pastebinit can read the file directly: patebinit /path/to/some/file. but the nc error means the file is empty
[01:17] <tatertots> darkish: hmm it's usually not empty but i've only used this method when the nvidia driver is installed from either the PPA or from official repos
[01:18] <darkish> oh
[01:18] <tatertots> darkish: i've heard through the grapevine you installed the .run from the nvidia website
[01:18] <darkish> tatertots: dont sweat it, windows :)
[01:18] <tatertots> darkish: ok...don't have to tell me thrice   ;)
[01:19] <darkish> tatertots: been working on this for hours myself
[01:19] <darkish> its a battle not needed to fight
[01:19] <darkish> but thank you for the help,  i reallyu apecreate it
[01:19] <darkish> apperciate
[01:19] <darkish> or whatever
[01:19] <bloody_puppet> bye
[01:22] <MDTech-us_MAN> Hello
[01:22] <melani> holi
[01:23] <MDTech-us_MAN> At the moment my Xorg is running at 12GB of ram. That doesn't seem normal to me. Top command output:
[01:23] <MDTech-us_MAN>  1371 root      20   0 11.453g 8.123g  20660 S   1.3 26.0 421:57.90 Xorg
[01:23] <melani> p
[01:24] <Ben64> MDTech-us_MAN: doesn't look normal
[01:24] <melani> hay alguien?
[01:24] <MDTech-us_MAN> I usually leave my computer running for days without rebooting and sometimes around the 2nd or 3rd day it just freezes and all I can do is hard reboot
[01:24] <MDTech-us_MAN> I'm guessing it clogged soemthign up
[01:24] <Ben64>  1455 root      20   0  378.5m 156.4m  72.7m S   1.0  1.0 609:14.22 Xorg
[01:24] <melani> holi
[01:25] <MDTech-us_MAN> yea, Ben64. On my Ubuntu laptop its usually around that range
[01:26] <MDTech-us_MAN> for my GPU I have a NVIDIA GTX 740 with the latest drivers
[01:26] <melani> hola
[01:27] <uxfi> hey MDTech-us_MAN
[01:27] <MDTech-us_MAN> I meant GTX 750
[01:30] <MDTech-us_MAN> Any ideas anyone? cause if I kill Xorg now I may nto be able to gather as much info for diagnostics
[01:31] <Dreaman> just reboot
[01:32] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: logs show anything interesting?
[01:32] <MDTech-us_MAN> where are they?
[01:33] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: in /var   but just do this quick and dirty in terminal before you reboot
[01:33] <MDTech-us_MAN> it actually works fine now
[01:33] <MDTech-us_MAN> just takes up alot of ram
[01:33] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: journalctl -p 4
[01:34] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: analyze that...then do
[01:34] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: journalctl -p 3
[01:34] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: do the same with that
[01:34] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: see anything interesting?
[01:35] <MDTech-us_MAN> got a few lines like this: Jan 14 20:15:37 Maxwell-Ubu-Main kernel: nvidia_uvm: disagrees about version of symbol nvUvmInterfaceChannelDestroy Jan 14 20:15:37 Maxwell-Ubu-Main kernel: nvidia_uvm: Unknown symbol nvUvmInterfaceChannelDestroy (err -22)
[01:35] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: do you want to further investigate? yes or no
[01:36] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: or should i stop now
[01:36] <MDTech-us_MAN> yes
[01:36] <MDTech-us_MAN> this has been getting at me for a long time now
[01:36] <MDTech-us_MAN> aka since I installed ubuntu
[01:36] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[01:37] <MDTech-us_MAN> oh wait a sec
[01:37] <MDTech-us_MAN> its getting jiucy here
[01:37] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: juicy?....what in the logs?
[01:37] <MDTech-us_MAN> Jan 15 02:04:19 Maxwell-Ubu-Main kernel: Buffer I/O error on dev sr0, logical block 0, async page read Jan 15 02:04:20 Maxwell-Ubu-Main kernel: blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0
[01:37] <MDTech-us_MAN> yea
[01:37] <MDTech-us_MAN> I got a bunch of those
[01:38] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: or are you simply refilling your glass of orange juice ...hahaha ...that was an attempt at humor....
[01:38] <MDTech-us_MAN> lol
[01:38] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: let me know when the install is completed?
[01:39] <MDTech-us_MAN> its done
[01:39] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[01:39] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: press enter
[01:39] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: share the link/url here
[01:40] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: then do
[01:40] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23808095/
[01:40] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:40] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: press enter
[01:40] <fatwaffle> is this guide the way to install a secure ubuntu next to win10? http://askubuntu.com/questions/293028/how-can-i-install-ubuntu-encrypted-with-luks-with-dual-boot
[01:40] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: share the link/url here
[01:40] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23808096/
[01:40] <MDTech-us_MAN> first one is the specs and second the log
[01:41] <MDTech-us_MAN> btw, if it matters I do use virtual box with windows 8.1 installed and 3d acceleration enabled
[01:42] <MDTech-us_MAN> and I keep the vm on all the time
[01:42] <MDTech-us_MAN> tatertots: ^
[01:43] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: ok..no prob..next do this
[01:43] <MDTech-us_MAN> rm -rf / ?
[01:44] <tatertots> NO!
[01:44] <MDTech-us_MAN> lol
[01:44] <tatertots> shame on you
[01:44] <MDTech-us_MAN> jkjk
[01:44] <fatwaffle> sudo it
[01:44] <MDTech-us_MAN> lol
[01:44] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: nvidia-smi &> ~/nfo.nfo
[01:44] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: press enter
[01:44] <fatwaffle> over ssh on a remote machine for revenge
[01:44] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: you won't see anything
[01:44] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: just let me know once it's been done
[01:45] <MDTech-us_MAN> it finished right away
[01:45] <MDTech-us_MAN> the nfo was written
[01:45] <MDTech-us_MAN> pastebinit?
[01:45] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: pastebinit ~/nfo.nfo
[01:45] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23808124/
[01:46] <lucie_> #join Buddy.IM
[01:46] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: i see     0      1371    G   /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg                             311MiB
[01:46] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: 0      1371    G   /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg                             311MiB
[01:47] <MDTech-us_MAN> isn't that graphic memory?
[01:47] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: yes
[01:47] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: so now we can start to calculate
[01:48] <MDTech-us_MAN> so 311MiB out of 1GB?
[01:49] <MDTech-us_MAN> or to be specific 976MiB
[01:49] <MDTech-us_MAN> is that normal?
[01:50] <MDTech-us_MAN> I never really checked it of other computers
[01:50] <MDTech-us_MAN> *on
[01:50] <tatertots> @ 19:23:03 <MDTech-us_MAN>  1371 root      20   0 11.453g 8.123g  20660 S   1.3 26.0 421:57.90 Xorg
[01:50] <MDTech-us_MAN> FYI: Virtual Box is off now
[01:50] <MDTech-us_MAN> otherwise I'm out of RAM and everything gets laggy and stuff
[01:51] <Zeranoe> What would be a decent way to copy a large directory and all sub directories/files from a Debian machine to a Ubuntu one? get -r dir ?
[01:51] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: so only a percentage of that PID 1371 is using your GTX
[01:51] <k1l> Zeranoe: rsync
[01:51] <Zeranoe> (From an sftp session that is)
[01:52] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: nothing looks too odd in your log....let me see your journalctl 3's and 4's
[01:54] <MDTech-us_MAN> I forgot, can you redirect their output?
[01:54] <MDTech-us_MAN> nvm seems fine
[01:54] <MDTech-us_MAN> `journalctl -p 3`: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23808147/
[01:55] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: did the mem util of PID 1371 reduce after VM was shut down?
[01:55] <MDTech-us_MAN> nope Xorg still uses the exact same about of ram
[01:55] <MDTech-us_MAN> `journalctl -p 4`: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23808148/
[01:56] <MDTech-us_MAN> well... technically its useing 0.001g less
[01:56] <MDTech-us_MAN> *using
[01:56] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: you configured your system without swap didn't you? yes or no
[01:56] <MDTech-us_MAN> I use a swapfile
[01:57] <Zeranoe> k1l: I haven't used rsync before. I don't want to cary over the permissions because the users are not the same, so would it be rsync -rl ...?
[01:57] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: sudo parted -l|pastebinit
[02:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23808182/
[02:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> fyi: I got this error wen doing that command: Warning: Error fsyncing/closing /dev/sdg1: Remote I/O error
[02:01] <MDTech-us_MAN> *when
[02:01] <cfhowlett> i/o errors usually point to hardware failures
[02:02] <MDTech-us_MAN> its an external drive I use to transfer huge files between computers
[02:02] <MDTech-us_MAN> I don't even think its mounted
[02:04] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: ok i see a unusually high amount of events in your logs
[02:05] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: in terminal> nvidia-settings &>> ~/nfo.nfo
[02:06] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: if the nvidia util opens just close it
[02:06] <MDTech-us_MAN> you mean &> ?
[02:06] <tatertots> NO
[02:06] <MDTech-us_MAN> >> will append to the current file
[02:06] <tatertots> i meant what i typed
[02:06] <tatertots> that's what i want
[02:06] <MDTech-us_MAN> done: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23808250/
[02:07] <MDTech-us_MAN> oh, there were no changes
[02:08] <MDTech-us_MAN> yea. there is no output
[02:08] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: ubuntu-drivers list|pastebinit
[02:09] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23808260/
[02:10] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: please tell me how you came to run Driver Version: 375.26  when 367 is the highest version driver manager would have offered you/
[02:10] <tatertots> ?
[02:11] <MDTech-us_MAN> nvidia site
[02:11] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: ah i see...that makes sense
[02:11] <MDTech-us_MAN> I had a similar problem before
[02:11] <MDTech-us_MAN> before it just crashed the kernel
[02:13] <MDTech-us_MAN> like I woke up in the morning and it would be at this ubuntu logo with Kernel Oops or somethign like that
[02:13] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: Jan 14 20:15:37 Maxwell-Ubu-Main systemd[1]: Failed to activate swap /swapfile
[02:13] <tatertots> Jan 14 20:15:37 Maxwell-Ubu-Main systemd[1]: Failed to activate swap /swapfile
[02:14] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: so you didn't configure your computer with any swap......you claim to use a swap file ..but Jan 14 20:15:37 Maxwell-Ubu-Main systemd[1]: Failed to activate swap /swapfile
[02:14] <MDTech-us_MAN> swap is workign now...
[02:14] <MDTech-us_MAN> # free -m               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available Mem:          31989       13350       15009         125        3629       18026 Swap:         30719        3632       27087
[02:14] <MDTech-us_MAN> 3632/30719
[02:15] <MDTech-us_MAN> is in use right now
[02:15] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: your logs have a lot of failed to activate swap
[02:15] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: which considering you have a VM that uses 16GB while running other apps/processes on the host
[02:16] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: seeing this amount of swap/swap file failures is concerning
[02:16] <MDTech-us_MAN> well... actually if you noticed I am using btrfs
[02:17] <MDTech-us_MAN> in raid
[02:17] <MDTech-us_MAN> so I'm using a loop device on a file
[02:18] <MDTech-us_MAN> https://github.com/sebastian-philipp/btrfs-swapon
[02:18] <tatertots> Jan 14 20:15:37 Maxwell-Ubu-Main kernel: swapon: swapfile has holes
[02:18] <fishcooker> how to disable daily cron apt-get update which is get list updated list daily so that i will not get message 77 packages can be updated and 44 updates are security updates. I want to keep my box as is no update even query the new update
[02:19] <MDTech-us_MAN> tatertots: so you tink I should make a partition for it?
[02:19] <MDTech-us_MAN> *think
[02:19] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: bluetooth is failing and timing out also
[02:19] <MDTech-us_MAN> bluetooth?
[02:20] <MDTech-us_MAN> I don't have bluetooth
[02:20] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: yeah that's what it says...don't shoot the messenger lol
[02:20] <MDTech-us_MAN> well, maybe thats the problem?
[02:21] <tatertots> Jan 14 20:16:09 Maxwell-Ubu-Main systemd[1]: Failed to start LSB: This service starts and stops VMware services.
[02:22] <tatertots> Jan 14 20:47:32 Maxwell-Ubu-Main pulseaudio[4984]: [alsa-source-USB Audio] alsa-source.c: Failed to set hardware parameters: Broken pipe
[02:22] <MDTech-us_MAN> the alsa thing is my headphones
[02:22] <MDTech-us_MAN> they may not be linux friendly
[02:22] <tatertots> Jan 14 20:15:37 Maxwell-Ubu-Main kernel: sd 6:0:0:0: [sdf] Asking for cache data failed
[02:23] <tatertots> Jan 14 20:15:37 Maxwell-Ubu-Main systemd[1]: Dependency failed for Swap.
[02:23] <Jakethepython> hello room i am having problems with Ubuntu Server 14 after apgradign to ubuntu 16 with Samba
[02:23] <tatertots> Jan 14 20:15:37 Maxwell-Ubu-Main nvidia-persistenced[823]: Failed to lock PID file: Resource temporarily unavailable
[02:24] <MDTech-us_MAN> tatertots: I dont have a /dev/sdf
[02:25] <MDTech-us_MAN> I did use vmware for my windows system before, but it kept crashing on boot so I switched to vbox
[02:25] <tatertots> Jan 14 20:16:52 Maxwell-Ubu-Main com.canonical.Unity.Scope.Applications[4692]: (unity-scope-loader:7471): unity-applications-daemon-CRITICAL **: daemon.vala:144: Failed to load Software Center index. 'Apps Available for Download' will not be listed
[02:25] <MDTech-us_MAN> i dunno wtf that is
[02:28] <MDTech-us_MAN> so...
[02:28] <MDTech-us_MAN> ideas?
[02:29] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: yes....i'd like to ask you a few questions
[02:29] <MDTech-us_MAN> yea?
[02:29] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: is the symptom consistently reproducible ? meaning are you able to produce the symptom at will
[02:29] <nights> how do i change how often i'm promoted for password ?
[02:30] <toan_> rt
[02:30] <nights> (for sudo)
[02:30] <tatertots> or does the symptom appear to be intermittent
[02:30] <MDTech-us_MAN> tatertots: well, every time I reboot and then use the computer all day
[02:31] <MDTech-us_MAN> when I come back its already at hight RAM
[02:31] <MDTech-us_MAN> *high
[02:31] <tatertots> with only the 1 VM running
[02:31] <tatertots> ?
[02:31] <MDTech-us_MAN> yea
[02:31] <barnito> I am going to setup openhab on a pine64 SBC
[02:31] <MDTech-us_MAN> I do a lot of gpu intensive stuff there
[02:31] <tatertots> or do you have stuff like spotify, skype, chrome/firefox running on the host also
[02:32] <MDTech-us_MAN> well, yea chrome
[02:32] <MDTech-us_MAN> with a lot of tabs
[02:32] <MDTech-us_MAN> but I kill chrome tabs once they suck up too much ram
[02:32] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: does the symptom occur if you never power on the vm?
[02:33] <MDTech-us_MAN> I don't know.
[02:33] <MDTech-us_MAN> I always power on the vm
[02:33] <tatertots> that's the big $ question
[02:33] <MDTech-us_MAN> I use it for all my work and stuff
[02:34] <MDTech-us_MAN> since its not line adobe can actually port their tools to linux :(
[02:34] <tatertots> hmmm so it's unknown if this symptom will occur without the VM
[02:34] <MDTech-us_MAN> exactly
[02:34] <hydrajump> after adding a kernel module to initrd.lz do I need to do anything else for the module to be loaded?
[02:34] <tatertots> that mystery needs revealed
[02:35] <tatertots> to isolate the symptom to the host
[02:35] <MDTech-us_MAN> oh wait!
[02:35] <MDTech-us_MAN> wait!
[02:35] <MDTech-us_MAN> I did have the vm down for a few days
[02:36] <MDTech-us_MAN> I didn't have any stuff to do so it was down for a few days
[02:36] <MDTech-us_MAN> and I don't remember restarting then
[02:36] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: schedule a maintenance window of time....reveal the mystery if the symptom occurs without the VM,
[02:36] <MDTech-us_MAN> I was just watching movies on chrome all day
[02:36] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: let me know the results of the analysis
[02:37] <MDTech-us_MAN> and no problems
[02:37] <tatertots> hmm
[02:38] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: let's just assume for right now....until you schedule a maintenance window to perform the analysis...let's assume the symptom NEVER occurs without the VM
[02:38] <MDTech-us_MAN> yea
[02:39] <tatertots> i hate assuming
[02:39] <tatertots> but
[02:39] <Jakethepython> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:39] <Jakethepython>  samba
[02:39] <Jakethepython> N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-old' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[02:39] <Jakethepython> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:40] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: that would suggests that the symptom is induced after initialization of the VM
[02:40] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: isolating the symptom to starting the vm
[02:41] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: now if we take this stance
[02:42] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: we must closely examine why powering on this VM produces negative symptoms for your host
[02:42] <amin> I want to post a video to instagram, but for whatever reason it takes forever to upload. It may be because of video format or some errors in it. I want to rerender it. Do you suggest ffmpeg? How can I rerender the video into a standard format without any change to the video, itself?
[02:43] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: in terminal> vboxmanage list --long vms|pastebin
[02:45] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23808381/
[02:48] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: ok
[02:49] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: so you need to definitively determine if the symptom occurs without powering on this VM....right now we just assumed the symptom NEVER occurs without the VM but that need to be confirmed and validated as a consistently true statement
[02:50] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: it looks to be very possible that it would be found to be true...but i hate to assume ya know
[02:51] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: i can see some things that would for sure cause that type of circumstance
[02:51] <MDTech-us_MAN> its just that I got a lot of work I need to do on the windows vm and I can't really not use it for a day...
[02:52] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: with the way your vm is configured and your host is configured including but not limited to the info in the logs...i'm not surprised at all you have that symptom
[02:53] <pizza_party> hiya
[02:53] <MDTech-us_MAN> any more specifics?
[02:54] <pizza_party> Any way to update drivers without a network connection?
[02:55] <KingsQuest> hi everyone
[02:55] <KingsQuest> is there a free google drive that doesn't cost much that is ok with ubuntu ?
[02:56] <KingsQuest> i have paid account.  i'm SSI :D
[02:56] <KingsQuest> i love ubuntu
[02:56] <nights> me too
[02:56] <nights> lol
[02:57] <KingsQuest> i don't love Apple.  its not gnu
[02:57] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: can't really go into too much detail until you perform the analysis to definitively state with %100 certainty that the symptom never occurs without the VM
[02:58] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: once you make that statement....your vm will have to defend it self against me
[02:58] <KingsQuest> my google results i don't believe are the responsiblity of gnu2 ubuntu.
[02:58] <KingsQuest> or my ebay website
[02:58] <KingsQuest> sorry
[02:58] <KingsQuest> they weren't running ubuntu ;) :D
[02:59] <MDTech-us_MAN> -_-
[02:59] <KingsQuest> i use clamav as resident daemon.  because i'm serious about viruses.  i even scan -- when the coast, is clear :D  i slept 8 hours last night.  i don't randomize that unless no one's looking :D
[02:59] <MDTech-us_MAN> which means this gets delayed for another week
[03:02] <KingsQuest> be sure to save your kernels before 16.04 LTS.  is over.  gnu2 is wonderful :D
[03:04] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: well it's your vm and i don't wanna suggest how you should configure it...and you have free will so nothing forces you to observe best practices
[03:04] <countingdaisies> is there an equivalent to add-apt   that removes a repository instead of addint it?
[03:04] <countingdaisies> adding
[03:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> tatertots: kive it to me straight skippy
[03:06] <KingsQuest> i use JFS.  and something turned off, because i knew my data was very good for me.  audible ?  i hate it.  they changed my books.  it was their server.
[03:06] <rizonz> where have the mods-enabled for php 16.04 went to ?
[03:07] <KingsQuest> no ipv6's that are off are one's on ubuntu is false but on off.  its spec even stateful packet.  we honest about 600 days.   ubuntu rocks !!  JFS rules !!!
[03:07] <countingdaisies> Is this what we get?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/307/how-can-ppas-be-removed
[03:07] <countingdaisies> 6 yrs ago
[03:08] <KingsQuest> why is my information being blocked from google ?
[03:08] <rizonz> mhh that changed it seems
[03:08] <KingsQuest> it's ipv6 and on
[03:08] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: now when you come with those test results......the gloves are coming off..and you'll have to defend how you configured that vm....
[03:08] <countingdaisies> oh, sorry, nevermind
[03:09] <MDTech-us_MAN> tatertots: its a clone of a physical windows's drive
[03:09] <MDTech-us_MAN> so I could install ubuntu
[03:09] <MDTech-us_MAN> and add 2 new SSDs in raid
[03:10] <MDTech-us_MAN> so sum it up, I imaged my old SSD, installed 2 new SSDs, installed btrfs on all 3 and ubuntu on btrfs
[03:10] <MDTech-us_MAN> then I used the image in the VM
[03:15] <zerohimself> hey guys, having a low samba speed (<40mb/s) ... verified the gig-e connection, iperfs at 98mb/s... any ideas
[03:16] <zerohimself>  or am i just out of my mind expecting a better speed?
[03:20] <vinzusama> Hi everyone
[03:23] <MDTech-us_MAN> tatertots: ...
[03:23] <vinzusama> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 16.10 on a new PC with a W10 preinstalled, the problem is if I deactivate Secure Boot mode I can install Ubuntu but Windows won't boot anymore, and if I activate Secure Boot mode, I can run the Ubuntu installer but it only recognize my USB stick, but not my SSD...
[03:24] <vinzusama> UEFI trouble :/
[03:24] <vinzusama> any advice ? :)
[03:24] <zhou_xingyu> I am UEFI too
[03:25] <zhou_xingyu> But I install successfully
[03:25] <zhou_xingyu> You may need to update grub2
[03:27] <vinzusama> zhou_xingyu but which grub ? I can boot up Ubuntu, but in the install process, it tells me that 8GB is not enough to install it (my USB drive is 8GB).
[03:28] <vinzusama> so, it does not see my SSD drive
[03:29] <Bashing-om> vinzusama: Insure that you also boot the liveUSB in EFI mode .
[03:29] <adymitruk> how can I enable the lid to suspend my laptop?
[03:29] <adymitruk> it currently shuts down the computer as if the power was pulled on it
[03:31] <vinzusama> Bashing-om I guess it is, I'll try something on the process to burn the ubuntu iso on the usb key
[03:32] <sector327> vinzusama, how about just running windows in a VM? the problem I have with dual boot setups is it seems the grub is always getting rewritten (or overwritten) after an upgrade.
[03:32] <sector327> vinzusama, I can run oracle virtualbox (with adds ons installed) and have full windows functionality/resolutions
[03:33] <pizza_party> Any way to update a driver without a network connection?
[03:33] <Bashing-om> !uefi | vinzusama
[03:33] <sector327> adymitruk, have you tried the unity-tweak tool? I'm not sure but there might be extra power settings there
[03:34] <pizza_party> a xubuntu live usb won't connect to an Atheros Qualcomm
[03:34] <vinzusama> thanks
[03:35] <adymitruk> sector327: I'm not on unity. I'm using the KDE Neon desktop
[03:35] <adymitruk> regardless, what should I be looking for?
[03:37] <barnito> prob have to reinstall Windows with secure boot disabled.      vinzusama
[03:38] <vinzusama> barnito yes I'll try this at last attempt I guess
[03:40] <sector327> vinzusama, cut the cord!!! make the jump. only use windws when you HAVE to
[03:41] <sector327> I did the "big jump" last year and honestly I don't regret it at all
[03:42] <vinzusama> sector327 don't worry, I'm quite used to Ubuntu, that's not the point. But my windows will be for games, so virtualisation is not a very good option in this case
[03:42] <vinzusama> I'll cut the cord haha
[03:42] <vinzusama> it's just I'm not used to UEFI
[03:43] <sector327> vinzusama, sink or swim man....hahahaaaa. but yes I can understand about the gaming. surprisingly enough I'm pretty much anti-game on pc's. i keep that with the playstation
[03:47] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: i'm back....so according to your testimony, the vm used to be a a physical machine in it's former life.
[03:47] <MDTech-us_MAN> yup
[03:48] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: did you do anything to it prior to imaging it?
[03:49] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: to get it ready for it's reincarnation
[03:49] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: that time lapse...it's gotta mean no
[03:49] <tatertots> and thats fine
[03:50] <MDTech-us_MAN> yea I just imaged it
[03:50] <MDTech-us_MAN> no preperations
[03:51] <sysRPL> hello
[03:51] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: and you're fairly confident the symptom doesn't occur without the vm?...how confident on a scale of 1-5 with 1 being least confident and 5 being gosh dang confident?
[03:52] <sysRPL> could someone help me with ubuntu? my middle mouse button locks mouse input when pressed. that is i cannot move the mouse when the middle button is down.
[03:52] <MDTech-us_MAN> 4
[03:52] <sysRPL> i've googled a lot and found nothing helpful to correct this problem
[03:53] <sysRPL> i think tthere was  asetting at one time to move the window when the middle mouse button was pressed, but i can't remember that setting location ... it's been so long
[03:54] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: about how long measured in time from powering on the computer does it take on average for the symptom to occur?
[03:54] <MDTech-us_MAN> a day
[03:55] <MDTech-us_MAN> actually
[03:55] <tatertots> 24 hours
[03:56] <MDTech-us_MAN> if I power on in the morning, do some stuff then go away, when I come back int eh late evenign its already at 12gigs
[03:56] <MDTech-us_MAN> *in the
[03:58] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: when creating the vm were there any architectural or design considerations made with regard to the computational workloads that would be on the vm?
[03:58] <MDTech-us_MAN> if I power on during mid day, and do stuff until night then come back in the morning its frozen
[03:59] <MDTech-us_MAN> well, my main consideration was to make sure Adobe Premiere would work
[03:59] <MDTech-us_MAN> so that calls for 3d acceleration
[03:59] <tatertots> mmhmm acceleration for your NLE...ok go on
[03:59] <MDTech-us_MAN> and I also will need to be able to run a few other products simultaneously which means large RAM
[04:00] <MDTech-us_MAN> and max cpu for encoding
[04:02] <sysRPL> https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/5o8mpx/middle_mouse_down_locks_mouse_movement/
[04:02] <sysRPL> ^ my full question posted at the link above ^
[04:05] <Ben64> sysRPL: is it a laptop
[04:06] <airheadnerd> Hello
[04:11] <MDTech-us_MAN> tatertots: ?
[04:12] <airheadnerd> Hi MDTech-us_MAN
[04:12] <MDTech-us_MAN> hi
[04:12] <airheadnerd> Ubuntu pro?
[04:12] <Kristof_HT> hekko
[04:13] <airheadnerd> Hi
[04:13] <MDTech-us_MAN> nope
[04:14] <airheadnerd> Anyone had to deal with USB ports before?
[04:14] <Ben64> what's the real question?
[04:14] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: i'm here
[04:14] <MDTech-us_MAN> tatertots: ideas?
[04:15] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: let's get some metrics going so we can have some numbers
[04:17] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: in terminal> vboxmanage metrics setup Main Windows 8.1 Guest/CPU/Load,Guest/RAM/Usage
[04:17] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: might need to deal with white space in your naming conventions
[04:17] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: so like
[04:17] <MDTech-us_MAN> yea
[04:17] <MDTech-us_MAN> fixed quotes
[04:18] <MDTech-us_MAN> no output
[04:18] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: thats normal, if you've never gathered mectrics before
[04:18] <MDTech-us_MAN> yup
[04:19] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: you are now gathering metrics and i will expect to see reports from you on this issue
[04:19] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: that way we have real numbers to track
[04:19] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: we need to also get some more metrics
[04:20] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: vboxmanage metrics list|pastebinit
[04:20] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: link?
[04:21] <MDTech-us_MAN> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23808685/
[04:24] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: in terminal> vboxmanage metrics setup host Host/CPU/Load,Host/RAM/Usage
[04:24] <MDTech-us_MAN> done
[04:25] <ubuntu_> exit
[04:25] <ubuntu_> quit
[04:26] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: we will use metrics to track guest/host memory/cpu over time and go over the metrics at a later date, based the findings a new action plan will be created.
[04:26] <MDTech-us_MAN> ok
[04:26] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: use the machine as you normally would
[04:26] <MDTech-us_MAN> so, should I just restart x now?
[04:26] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: so we can get metrics from your normal use
[04:27] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: yes or reboot
[04:27] <MDTech-us_MAN> ok.
[04:27] <MDTech-us_MAN> see you at a later.
[04:27] <MDTech-us_MAN> date
[04:28] <tatertots> MDTech-us_MAN: ok cool...we'll pull reports from let's say a 72 hours of your normal usage
[04:38] <Colombo1> Hi, some icons have changed collor
[04:38] <Colombo1> from yellow to pink
[04:38] <Colombo1> Ubuntu 16.04 after some graphical updates
[04:38] <zc>        
[04:38] <zc> hello
[04:38] <Colombo1> anyone know what might be the problem or how I might try to search for what might cause the problem?
[04:39] <zc> Are the United States?
[04:40] <zc> Are the United States?
[04:40] <zc> Are the United States?
[04:41] <Dreaman> Colombo1  video card is
[04:41] <Colombo1> AMD Tonga 285
[04:41] <Dreaman> ?
[04:42] <Dreaman> tonga
[04:42] <Colombo1> its Tonga series/verrsion
[04:43] <Colombo1> R9 285, you want it
[04:43] <Colombo1> Tonga is generation (that is more precise)
[04:43] <Dreaman> use free driver
[04:43] <Colombo1> I am using free driver
[04:43] <Colombo1> newest Mesa from padoka ppa
[04:43] <Colombo1> this weird corruption happens only on some icons
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> Colombo1: ubuntu version? kernel version?
[04:43] <Dreaman> my is 4830
[04:44] <Colombo1> like Pidgin smails or those video "looks" (how it is called)
[04:44] <Colombo1> 4.4.0-59-generic #80-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 6 17:47:47 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:44] <Colombo1> Ubuntu 16.04
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> lookin good
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> Colombo1: corruption happens on other driver versions also?
[04:46] <Colombo1> lotuspsychje: I have no idea.
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> Colombo1: can you experiment with your 'additional drivers' list, change+reboot and check?
[04:48] <Colombo1> lotuspsychje: I could, but this looks like much more pain and work, it literally happens only in movies (when you have icons of movies and they show some part of the movie, you know) and pidgin icons
[04:48] <Colombo1> so it is only a bit annoying not some difficulty
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> Colombo1: i understand, but before you file a bug or try to understand, i suggest switching radeon/mesa/other drivers and compare
[04:50] <jayjo> Hey - I am going to switch my macbook pro for an ubuntu laptop. Is there a machine that is comparable quality (and even just durability and feel) as the macbook pro? My desktop is ubuntu & I'm ready to make the leap
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> jayjo: alot of machines will be ubuntu installable
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> jayjo: what i would suggest is choosing for a laptop with powerfull ssd
[04:51] <jayjo> I do data analysis on my machine so high-end is necessary. Is there a maintained official list or a well-regarded guide to some good options?
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> jayjo: there are lists of supported hardware indeed
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> jayjo: but i would reccomend to know yourself first what kind of hardware you need?
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> jayjo: if you choose a model with enough ram/ high cpu/ strong ssd im sure you will hit same powers as the mac
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> jayjo: there are high end laptops from system76 and dell also, but in my opinion too expensive
[04:55] <jayjo> Is the puri.sm laptop recommended?
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> jayjo: lemme look that up
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> jayjo: it runs pureOs, as we are in #ubuntu here we strongly reccomend ubuntu as Os
[04:58] <jayjo> oh I see - I didn't even catch that
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> jayjo: best option is to choose your specifications first, ubuntu will install on most of them
[05:24] <Bray90820> So my computer running ubuntu 16.04 stops booting at "verifying dmi pool data" When I boot the live disk and select boot from first hard drive I get a busybox shell
[05:25] <Climhazzard> Bray90820 https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2058080
[05:26] <Bray90820> I already tried boot repair but I will try it again because q few things have changed since last time I ran it
[05:27] <Climhazzard> Have you checked your memory or for bios config errors?
[05:30] <FaMuLan> #osu
[05:32] <h3ct0r> vb
[05:33] <loganlee> hello my friends
[05:35] <amicrawler2017> need help with video card ubunut 16.04 x64  Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV710 (DRM 2.43.0, LLVM 3.8.0)
[05:35] <amicrawler2017> on opengl
[05:36] <amicrawler2017> do i need the ati driver from the site ?
[05:36] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: hi
[05:36] <amicrawler2017> hi
[05:36] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: can you open terminal?
[05:37] <amicrawler2017> yes
[05:37] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: sudo apt install inxi pastebin
[05:37] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: let me know when its completed
[05:38] <amicrawler2017> what is inxi pastebin ?
[05:38] <n4n0`> amicrawler2017: To provide logs for diagnostics
[05:39] <amicrawler2017> ok done
[05:41] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: done cool
[05:41] <amicrawler2017> tatertots: done
[05:41] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: in terminal>   inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[05:41] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: press enter
[05:42] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: share url/link here
[05:42] <lion_> Hi guys!
[05:43] <n4n0`> rawr a lion
[05:43] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: nothing in the url/link is unique to your person so don't worry about that...just share the url/link
[05:44] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: if you do not get a link try this instead
[05:44] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: in terminal>   inxi -Fxxrzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[05:45] <amicrawler2017> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23808997/
[05:45] <amicrawler2017> ok there it is
[05:46] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: this is what AMD gpu owners can expect moving forward https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/
[05:46] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: there is no other driver for you to use in any version of ubuntu > 14.x
[05:47] <amicrawler2017> so its a dud then
[05:47] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/  the driver here is the only driver you are eligible to use on 16.x
[05:47] <amicrawler2017> man
[05:48] <amicrawler2017> this card is not like nvidia then
[05:48] <n4n0`> That's an understatement
[05:48] <amicrawler2017> so is this card ok or is it garbage
[05:48] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: the kernel supplied amd driver has come a long way https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/
[05:49] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: check the chart for what features you'll have
[05:49] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: i hope you weren't planning to play many video games with this
[05:50] <amicrawler2017> no just video
[05:50] <amicrawler2017> internet
[05:50] <amicrawler2017> so on
[05:50] <n4n0`> amicrawler2017: I didn't catch your card name but for the most part I think opengl features are supported.
[05:50] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: it'll probably work just fine for normal home/home office workloads
[05:51] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: you will NOT be doing any high end video gaming though
[05:51] <amicrawler2017> was having issue with video streaming today
[05:51] <amicrawler2017> pbskids for my kid
[05:51] <amicrawler2017> video was very choppy
[05:51] <amicrawler2017> in full screen
[05:51] <amicrawler2017> was using firefox
[05:52] <amicrawler2017> the frames per sec was very low
[05:53] <n4n0`> amicrawler2017: Was it using the flash plugin or html5 player?
[05:54] <amicrawler2017> looks like flash
[05:54] <amicrawler2017> swf
[05:54] <amicrawler2017> yep flash
[05:55] <amicrawler2017> any ideas
[05:56] <amicrawler2017> to make flash work better
[05:56] <amicrawler2017> for video
[05:57] <n4n0`> amicrawler2017: You are better off using HTML5 player if the site supports it. For a large network like PBS I would think/hope they support html5. Flash plugin for Firefox has came a long way but I've noticed many complaints regarding performance issues.
[05:58] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: did you try playing the same video in chrome/chromium?
[05:58] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: and comparing the results to playing the exact same video in firefox
[05:58] <amicrawler2017> no not yet
[05:59] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: that's something you should do, if you had not done so
[05:59] <amicrawler2017> but a webpage is a webpage
[06:00] <amicrawler2017> no matter what browser you use
[06:00] <airheadnerd> Does anyone have experience with usbhid / USB bus issues?
[06:00] <amicrawler2017> it still gets to the page
[06:02] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: is the symptom isolated to firefox is what is being determined with such a test
[06:03] <amicrawler2017> yep its firefox
[06:03] <amicrawler2017> so what is the diffrents
[06:04] <amicrawler2017> is it how it handles flash
[06:04] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: have you actually tested to verify and confirm this? yes or no
[06:04] <amicrawler2017> yes
[06:04] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: then i agree...the symptom is isolated to firefox....chrome/chromium does NOT have the symptom
[06:05] <amicrawler2017> the site look diffrent with firefox compair to chrome
[06:05] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: and yes how it handles multimedia content
[06:05] <amicrawler2017> well thats funny
[06:06] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: and yes how "they" both respectively handle multimedia content
[06:06] <amicrawler2017> firefox uses flash site and chorme use html5 site
[06:06] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: see ...when i first suggested the test you were like......a web page is a web page...lol
[06:06] <amicrawler2017> it is
[06:07] <n4n0`> a web page is a web page until its a cat.
[06:07] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: i agree...but your streaming video is a tad more complex
[06:07] <n4n0`> and then a cat is a web page.
[06:07] <amicrawler2017> the browser  firefox can do html5
[06:07] <n4n0`> alias cat='webpage'
[06:08] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: so now that you know chrome/chromium works fine, and it's a firefox issue, let's talk about firefox
[06:09] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: is your firefox and computer in general up to date with all updates?
[06:09] <amicrawler2017> humm now chrome wants to use flash
[06:09] <amicrawler2017> was using html5 a sec ago
[06:11] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: in terminal>   apt list --installed|grep flash|pastebinit
[06:11] <tatertots> amicrawler2017: share url/link here
[06:12] <amicrawler2017> its how im going around the site
[06:12] <amicrawler2017> i got it
[06:12] <amicrawler2017> it just a pifktoc
[06:13] <tatertots> i don't know what pifktoc means sorry
[06:13] <amicrawler2017> problem from keyborad to chair
[06:13] <amicrawler2017> lol
[06:14] <tatertots> lol
[06:15] <amicrawler2017> sorry here is the saying PEBKAC
[06:17] <amicrawler2017> lol
[06:20] <liuxg> how can I install a debian package from non-ubuntu archive into my snap?
[06:21] <HiddenDjinn> got a dumb question, did apt replace apt-get as recommended in trusty or xenial? or did it go as far back as precise?
[06:21] <amicrawler2017> force pkg
[06:21] <Ben64> liuxg: you don't
[06:21] <Ben64> HiddenDjinn: xenial probably
[06:21] <HiddenDjinn> Ben64: working on updating a wiki, that's why i ask
[06:22] <Ben64> cool
[06:22] <Ben64> i know it exists in trusty
[06:22] <HiddenDjinn> so, as of april, i can delete any references to apt-get and replace with apt and be good to go
[06:23] <liuxg> Ben64, so I cannot package a debian package not from ubuntu archive?
[06:23] <HiddenDjinn> liuxg: you can, but it isn't necessarily a good idea
[06:23] <Ben64> it's almost always a terrible idea
[06:24] <amicrawler2017> is it like alien convert rpm to deb
[06:24] <Ben64> HiddenDjinn: should be
[06:24] <Ben64> HiddenDjinn: i've been thinking about updating a bunch of wiki stuff too
[06:24] <liuxg> HiddenDjinn, I want to package azure-iot-sdk-c-dev into my snap, but it is from ppa:aziotsdklinux/ppa-azureiot. Can I just find its debian package?
[06:24] <Ben64> HiddenDjinn: this isn't the channel for it though, maybe keep future discussions on it in #ubuntu-discuss :)
[06:24] <HiddenDjinn> Ben64: my bad
[06:25] <Ben64> no problem
[06:25] <HiddenDjinn> Ben64: too many channels
[06:25] <Ben64> yeah
[06:34] <Rebelnet> hi
[06:42] <CrazyTux> hello, which is the best tool for creating Live USB from an iso file of an OS? I want the one which supports the most number of distros. Is there any available in Ubuntu repositories?
[06:45] <s-corp> CrazyTux: you can try YUMI with wine
[06:45] <CrazyTux> s-corp, but does wine detect a pendrive?
[06:46] <CrazyTux> s-corp, any image writer to create a Windows bootable usb?
[06:47] <Bashing-om> CrazyTux: If the .iso is linux, and you are on 'buntu then the "best" tool to write the .iso to USB is 'dd' .
[06:47] <CrazyTux> Bashing-om, if the iso is of Windows and I am on Ubuntu, then?
[06:48] <s-corp> CrazyTux: it should detect USB and it does support windows isos and many more
[06:48] <CrazyTux> s-corp, ok. Will try that. Thanks a lot for helping me in that.
[06:49] <s-corp> CrazyTux: no problem good luck
[06:49] <Bashing-om> CrazyTux: Windows I can not say for sure . but I do not think a Windows' .iso is of the hyvrud nature . no can 'dd' it . maybe consider rufus ?
[06:50] <CrazyTux> can rufus be run in wine?
[06:50] <CrazyTux> does it detect the pendrive in wine?
[06:54] <s-corp> CrazyTux: You could also try MultiSystem
[06:55] <CrazyTux> ok
[07:00] <CrazyTux> rufus doesn't detect pendrive in wine. I just checked it.
[07:01] <peterson> I can't find any awesome wm IRC. Anyone know where I can go to get help?
[07:05] <MrP> I was just on under peterson Anyway, I'm not sure if anyone has responded. Anybody know where I can get some help with "Awesome"?
[07:07] <dax> https://awesomewm.org/community/ says #awesome on irc.oftc.net
[07:10] <Bashing-om> MrP: Your client irssi ? then try #irssi on this server .
[07:10] <MrP> dax, When I log in, it doesn't load any responses. I've tried several times, hoping people may be offline.
[07:11] <MrP> Bashing-om, What is irssi?
[07:12] <ObrienDave> another IRC client
[07:20] <elias_a> ObrienDave: Nope. Irssi is _the_ IRC client.
[07:21] <ObrienDave> right ;P
[07:22] <cuddle> hi how do i stream soundcloud in ubuntu
[07:22] <cuddle> without firefox or chrome
[07:27] <Bray90820> So i kinda messed up my system pretty badly I rebooted my computer while it was connected to a loopback device and now I can't boot my system
[07:27] <Bray90820> ubuntu 16,04
[07:28] <cuddle> yo
[07:28] <cuddle> did any one make a suggestion
[07:28] <cuddle> for soundcloud on ubuntu
[07:28] <ObrienDave> !patience
[07:32] <tatertots> Bray90820: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[07:32] <mapm> hi
[07:33] <tatertots> Bray90820: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[07:34] <lasersaber> for me to run windows for free, do i use wmware player or workstation?
[07:35] <te_lanus> I'm impressed with the small performance boost I got when mate updated itself to 1.16.0 (from the ppa:ubuntu-mate-dev/xenial-mate repository)
[07:36] <tatertots> cuddle: soundcloud....without a web browser? hmm that means you probably want to find out of they make installable software and that you meet the minimum system requirements for that installable software, or that the vendor, soundcloud supplies some usage information aka documentation on it's website
[07:36] <ducasse> Bray90820: what do you mean by "can't boot" - what happens?
[07:38] <elias_a> Perhaps something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww
[07:38] <elias_a> Good morning! ;-)
[07:38] <tatertots> lasersaber: do you have documentation from any vendor involved to reference this "free" use you speak of?
[07:39] <tatertots> lasersaber: no is a perfectly acceptable answer
[07:39] <lasersaber> ok?
[07:42] <lasersaber> never mind
[07:44] <lasersaber> i found the answer http://www.vmware.com/products/player/playerpro-evaluation.html
[07:44] <lasersaber> "The free version is available for non-commercial, personal and home use."
[07:47] <elias_a> It is not free. It is gratis = free of charge.
[07:48] <elias_a> One of the big handicaps of english language...
[07:48] <Trinity> anyone familiar with armory here?
[07:48] <bobdobbs> I've created a playlist in rhythbox. Is there a way to play the tracks in the playlist randomly?
[07:49] <HiddenDjinn> bobdobbs: yeah, just select shuffle as the advance method
[07:49] <bobdobbs> "shuffle as the advance mode"?
[07:49] <bobdobbs> I'm gonna sound dumb, but... how do I do that?
[07:50] <HiddenDjinn> bobdobbs: is there a menu with the word "playback" across the top bar?
[07:50] <bobdobbs> not that I can see
[07:51] <HiddenDjinn> ok, brb...installing rhythmbox to get exact
[07:51] <Bray90820> ducasse: The system hangs on varying dmi pool data and then I try to boot from first hard disk with the live CD and it defaults to a busybox shell
[07:52] <Bray90820> tatertots: I tried bootrepir doesn't work
[07:52] <bobdobbs> HiddenDjinn: oh hey! I figured it out!
[07:52] <HiddenDjinn> bobdobbs: right before i was going to tell you
[07:52] <HiddenDjinn> bobdobbs: the two arrows crossing each other
[07:52] <bobdobbs> There's a button that does it. It isn't marked with text, and there's no tooltip or anything. So I couldn't tell initially
[07:52] <bobdobbs> HiddenDjinn: :D
[07:52] <bobdobbs> HiddenDjinn: thanks :)
[07:53] <Bray90820> What I need to do is unload the loopback device
[07:53] <HiddenDjinn> bobdobbs: it's also under the "control" menu
[07:53]  * HiddenDjinn has been using a streaming service for a long time
[07:54] <ducasse> Bray90820: what do you mean by loopback device?
[07:54] <Bray90820> This is actually what I did and I rebooted before I unloaded it
[07:55] <Bray90820> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/46450/reduce-ubuntu-mate-16-04-img-file-size/
[07:55] <tatertots> Bray90820: did you keep the log from boot repair?
[07:55] <tatertots> Bray90820: no is a perfectly acceptable answer
[07:57] <Bray90820> Sorry I was AFK I did not keep it but in my opinion boot repair will not help in this situation
[07:58] <ducasse> Bray90820: that's actually called a loop device, loopback is a networking term. and it will not have survived a reboot. was it an unclean shutdown?
[08:00] <Bray90820> It was a clean shutdown
[08:00] <Bray90820> ducasse: So am I f***ed and needing to reinstall?
[08:00] <lethu> hello where do I find my xorg.conf file?
[08:01] <lethu> I have amdgpu and mesa drivers
[08:01] <ducasse> Bray90820: filesystems are unmounted on shutdown, do you have a live image you can use?
[08:01] <ducasse> lethu: there shouldn't be one.
[08:02] <lethu> ducasse, how do I set gallium option?
[08:02] <ducasse> lethu: you can create a snippet in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[08:03] <lethu> ducasse, is that a directory?
[08:03] <ducasse> lethu: yes, create it if it doesn't exist
[08:04] <lethu> ducasse, then what file do I write? sorry for my questions
[08:05] <ducasse> lethu: see the xorg.conf man page, you just need the section surrounding your option
[08:06] <lethu> ducasse, thanks for the help
[08:10] <Bray90820> ducasse: Live image as in a live CD of ubuntu?
[08:10] <ducasse> Bray90820: yep
[08:10] <gagalicious> i have a ubuntu server raid1 system. i tried to clone the disk use the new disk to install on my new PC. the problem is, it boots fine the first time. but on 2nd try, the boot fails. normally because of MDADM not recognized. how can i resolve this?
[08:10] <Bray90820> ducasse: I very well do
[08:11] <ducasse> Bray90820: boot from that and fsck the root filesystem
[08:11] <Bray90820> root device as in the one with the loop device?
[08:12] <ducasse> Bray90820: well, the root fs is what you're having problems with
[08:12] <gagalicious> i have a ubuntu server raid1 system. i tried to clone the disk use the new disk to install on my new PC. the problem is, it boots fine the first time. but on 2nd try, the boot fails. normally because of MDADM not recognized. how can i resolve this?
[08:16] <countingdaisies> I saw an article on something once and wanted to ask about the concept on here. Can a chroot environment be used to control what commands a user can/cannot issue to the system?
[08:17] <ducasse> countingdaisies: yes, you can build a chroot that contains only the program(s) the user is allowed to run
[08:18] <Bray90820> ducasse: couldn't run fsck because there wasn't a valid ext partition
[08:18] <countingdaisies> ducasse: Oh, that doesn't seem like the way I thought it worked (and may not work for my use case then)
[08:19] <ducasse> Bray90820: ouch. in that case you can try testdisk to see if it can recover the partition table, other than that it's time to check the disk thoroughly and do a reinstall :-(
[08:19] <countingdaisies> ducasse: So I have to install everything I want them to be able to use (not an "access" issue where they use the regular installed programs)?
[08:19] <ducasse> countingdaisies: exactly.
[08:20] <Bray90820> I mean a reinstall wouldn't be the worst thing i have all the data backed up
[08:20] <Bray90820> It would just be hours and hours of time
[08:20] <countingdaisies> ducasse: back to sq1
[08:21] <countingdaisies> I want a way to control commands and how (at least some of them) are used.
[08:22] <ducasse> countingdaisies: maybe something like apparmor is what you want
[08:22] <countingdaisies> could selinux (for example) stop me from creating a file with touch if it contains whitespace in the name? Will it work for that?
[08:22] <ducasse> countingdaisies: no idea
[08:22] <countingdaisies> ducasse: sorry saw it after
[08:24] <countingdaisies> what about using containers I wonder? I don't know much about how it works, but what about Docker containers to isolate an application layer and a user environment layer (or something like that)?
[08:24] <countingdaisies> *but what about*
[08:25] <Bashing-om> Bray90820: Maybe . remap the boot sector ? see : http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/114429/short-read-while-trying-to-open-partition
[08:25] <ducasse> countingdaisies: you still need to install what you want to be available inside the container
[08:27] <countingdaisies> ducasse: Oh, yeah. I think I read somewhere you can isolate / compartmentalize different areas of your system (like the application layer) - off by itself
[08:28] <countingdaisies> thought
[08:28] <ducasse> countingdaisies: apparmor is the closest thing i can think of to what you're asking for
[08:29] <countingdaisies> ducasse: cool
[08:30] <Bray90820> I have decided to just reinstall
[08:30] <Bray90820> Thanks for your help tho
[08:34] <akik> countingdaisies: i think one option would be to use acls of the file system to restrict what users can run
[08:35] <akik> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/en/man5/acl.5.html
[08:39] <countingdaisies> akik: thx
[08:41] <countingdaisies> akik: do you know if conditions can be placed in acls?
[08:42] <countingdaisies> Like they have to form the command a certain way or they get denied (with instructions)
[08:42] <countingdaisies> ?
[08:45] <Hgame> hello
[08:45] <akik> countingdaisies: no i don't know about conditions with acl
[08:45] <n4n0`> Good day.
[08:46] <countingdaisies> akik: acls are interesting. It came up when I was messing around with aws but I've never dealt with them.
[09:02] <donught> suh
[09:06] <mapm> hi, I have a problem with a lubuntu encrypted installation. When booting, grub automatically starts loading Lubuntu but then it says (loading a kernel with a "verbose" parameter instead of "quiet splash") "Begin: Runnng /scripts/local-bloc
[09:06] <mapm>  ... done." lots of times then "done" then "Gave up waiting for root device. Common problems: - Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline) - Check rootdelay= (did the system wait long enough?) - Check root= (did thesystem wait for the right device?) -
[09:06] <mapm> Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev) ALERT! /dev/mapper/lubuntu--vg-root does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" Then busybox
[09:10] <re-l> 11
[09:10] <re-l> hello there
[09:11] <wbe2l> hello
[09:11] <re-l> have a nice day
[09:11] <re-l> bye
[09:19] <[[great]]> Hello
[09:40] <kividroid> howdy
[09:48] <ziguardian> hallo any body can help me?, my ubuntu stuck with black screen and blinking cursor
[09:49] <ikevin-> ziguardian, when doing special things?
[09:49] <JP____> can you type?
[09:50] <JP____> First time issue? or every time you boot?
[09:50] <sajmoon> Hi All
[09:50] <sajmoon> got a problem with screen connected to integrated card...anyone able to help?
[09:51] <ikevin-> sajmoon, what kind of problem?
[09:53] <sajmoon> got 2nvidias and 2 screens connected to one of them...installed nvidia drivers and it works perfect..
[09:54] <sajmoon> got 3rd screen hooked up to integrated card and it works too
[09:54] <sajmoon> but when i login it is black
[09:54] <sajmoon> when i press ctrl+ alt + F1 tty show on that screen
[09:54] <sajmoon> i want to be able to display part of desktop on it
[09:55] <sajmoon> any chance to do it?
[09:55] <sajmoon> i need nvidia drivers installed
[09:55] <tatertots> ziguardian: hi are you chatting from a different computer right now?
[09:55] <ikevin-> hummm, not sure, so you maybe need to play with X configuration and xinerama
[09:56] <sajmoon> i tried it to hook it to 2nd nvidia and it works but it is on different x server
[09:57] <sajmoon> and it is not desired behavior
[09:57] <sajmoon> so i thought i can use integrated card
[10:00] <IamTrying> Ubuntu Kylin 16.10 - Bug Buga Bug Bug. Chinese language is showing while installing. EVen selected English US showing Chinese fonts.
[10:01] <IamTrying> Ubuntu Kylin 16.10 - download iso 64-bit and after installing why its showing Chinese instead of English? Even selected English keep showing Chinese
[10:01] <EriC^^> IamTrying: chinese is the new english
[10:01] <IamTrying> Did Ubuntu Kylin 16.10 bought by Chinese ?
[10:02] <Rabbitnightmare> IamTrying: 你不会说普通话吗???
[10:02] <IamTrying> EriC^^: Even the language is selected to English British or US its keep showing all the installation in Chinese.
[10:02] <Rabbitnightmare> why not just use normal Ubuntu, download the wallpaper and theme?
[10:03] <Rabbitnightmare> Ubuntu Kylin is made in Chinese
[10:03] <Rabbitnightmare> for chinese
[10:03] <IamTrying> Rabbitnightmare:  Everything is showing as Chinese how do i get English US or British
[10:03] <Rabbitnightmare> use normal Ubuntu
[10:04] <IamTrying> What is normal Ubuntu ?
[10:04] <IamTrying> i want 16.10 not 16.04
[10:04] <EriC^^> there's an english 16.10 in the site
[10:04] <Rabbitnightmare> IamTrying: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[10:04] <IamTrying> EriC^^, Rabbitnightmare : that is what i downloaded but its showing Chinese. is it BUG buga BUG BUG?
[10:05] <Rabbitnightmare> you said Kylin
[10:05] <Rabbitnightmare> Kylin is not the normal iso
[10:05] <IamTrying> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-kylin
[10:05] <IamTrying> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-kylin - 64-bit i am using all in chinese
[10:05] <Rabbitnightmare> Ubuntu Kylin is specifically created for china
[10:05] <Rabbitnightmare> are you in china?
[10:06] <IamTrying> Rabbitnightmare: no i am in Belgium. I want English not Chinese
[10:06] <Rabbitnightmare> use normal Ubuntu then for fucks sake
[10:06] <Rabbitnightmare> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[10:06] <Rabbitnightmare> sorry for cussing
[10:06] <IamTrying> No but but but its 16.04 Rabbitnightmare i want English 16.10
[10:06] <Rabbitnightmare> but you chose a distro specifically created for the china market
[10:07] <IamTrying> But but but i need 16.10 not 16.04 in English Rabbitnightmare
[10:07] <Rabbitnightmare> then download 16.10
[10:07] <Rabbitnightmare> scroll down hurr
[10:07] <tn5421> 16.10 has an english release tho
[10:07] <tn5421> It's right below 16.04 LTS
[10:07] <tn5421> scroll down half a page
[10:07] <Rabbitnightmare> tn5421: he is using Ubuntu Kylin which is a distro created specifically in Mandarin with a theme change
[10:07] <Rabbitnightmare> he isnt in china
[10:07] <tn5421> I saw.
[10:08] <tn5421> I chose not to comment because it wasn't constructive.
[10:09] <Rabbitnightmare> IamTrying: I dont understand how you got to Kylin, when looking specifically on an English google site even, you would have had to seek out the chinese version of Ubuntu
[10:09] <Rabbitnightmare> in Mandarin
[10:09] <Rabbitnightmare> or specify Kylin
[10:10] <ziguardian> no, i login by press ctrl+alt+c
[10:10] <Rabbitnightmare> All the kylin version is, is a language translation with a different theme, if you wanted the theme you can download it
[10:11] <Rabbitnightmare> I do prefer the skeuomorphic icons
[10:12] <JP____> I feel as if IamTrying is trolling us :p
[10:12] <JP____> But maybe he is an exchange student with a chinese laptop
[10:13] <Rabbitnightmare> which would make sense
[10:13] <JP____> Yeah, only possibility my mind can concieve
[10:13] <Rabbitnightmare> even still he is typing in english, so english google at the very least or going to http://www.ubuntu.com would not take you to Kylin unless you specified so
[10:14] <Rabbitnightmare> I know if you go to google.cn, googling Ubuntu will take you to Kylin
[10:14] <tatertots> wouldn't his next steps be downloading a different ubuntu iso and reinstalling ?
[10:14] <Rabbitnightmare> pretty much
[10:14] <Rabbitnightmare> most of the language translations are hard coded into Unity
[10:15] <tatertots> IamTrying: download a different ubuntu iso, reinstall..simple...done
[10:15] <Rabbitnightmare> I mean there is a nifty chinese calendar, a music shop for China, and a localization weather app for China but its all localized
[10:15] <Rabbitnightmare> all of which are in the repos
[10:17] <Rabbitnightmare> I would like to see a localized distro for Hebrew but I aint holding my breath, plus I speak multiple languages, and English isnt that hard
[10:18] <Rabbitnightmare> not enough people I suppose
[10:24] <tn5421> I am, ironically, having issues getting internet on my install of ubuntu 16.04 lts
[10:24] <tatertots> tn5421: are you chatting from a different computer right now?
[10:25] <tn5421> Yes
[10:25] <tn5421> Well, same physical device, win10 install
[10:25] <JP____> Hebrew? Awesome
[10:25] <JP____> I have had one really good jewish friend, he was the bomb
[10:25] <tatertots> tn5421: wireless or wired?
[10:25] <tn5421> Wired.
[10:26] <tn5421> My device ID is, apparently, enp5s0
[10:26] <tatertots> tn5421: is ubuntu a vm? yes or no
[10:26] <tn5421> It is not.
[10:26] <tn5421> I have 2 HDDs, ubuntu is installed on one, Windows on the other.
[10:26] <tatertots> tn5421: laptop or desktop
[10:26] <tn5421> Desktop
[10:27] <tatertots> tn5421: does the nic have link and activity led lights?
[10:27] <tn5421> I did not check
[10:28] <tatertots> tn5421: does the switch/router/hub have activity/link led lights?
[10:28] <tatertots> tn5421: does the switch/router/hub that the computer is connected to have activity/link led lights?
[10:28] <tn5421> We have like 8 devices connected so the router is always active
[10:28] <tatertots> tn5421: does the switch/router/hub that the computer is connected to have activity/link led lights?
[10:28] <ikevin> tn5421, does the router provide dhcp configuration?
[10:28] <tatertots> yes or no
[10:29] <tn5421> Yes, I use DHCP on windows with no issue
[10:29] <tn5421> I did not check whether the lights on the ethernet port on my pc were flashing at the time.
[10:29] <ikevin> when doing an "ifconfig", does network settings are good?
[10:29] <tatertots> tn5421: does assigning a static ip allow connectivity?
 I did not check whether the lights on the ethernet port on my pc were flashing at the time.
[10:31] <tn5421> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/270223812652564481/270244232818720768/image.jpg
[10:31] <tn5421> I had to hunt it down
[10:31] <tn5421> I was half-dead
[10:31] <tatertots> tn5421: so you are not physically able to trouble shoot the computer right now?
[10:31] <tn5421> I can, but not while chatting here at the same time
[10:31] <tn5421> Would have to reboot this pc
[10:31] <ikevin> tatertots, this mean non config, try: sudo dhclient enp5s0
[10:31] <tatertots> tn5421: so you are not able to physically trouble shoot the computer right now?
[10:32] <tn5421> I can if you give me 5 minutes to get an irc client on my phone
[10:32] <baako> hi guys has anyone manage to set up ssl on ubuntu 16.04 server please. I have install ssl and set it up following https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-secure-nginx-with-let-s-encrypt-on-ubuntu-16-04
[10:33] <IamTrying> Guys, i have still Chinese Ubuntu 16.10 What is it???? i am in Belgium i went to a Ubuntu English site and my PC was already using Fedora English without any issue.
[10:33] <Zen> baako: I have
[10:33] <baako> I am using nginx by the way. This is my server config http://kopy.io/yqony
[10:33] <tatertots> IamTrying: download a different iso of ubuntu and reinstall...told you that an hour ago
[10:33] <baako> hi Zen
[10:34] <baako> if you go on the url in the kopi link it doesnt show the https
[10:34] <tatertots> tn5421: ok
[10:34] <IamTrying> tatertots: This is making no sense. Why in English site they are putting Chinese Ubuntu?? Why would Chinese rule the linux with Chinese language? I want English 16.10 not Chinese. Already installed twice and its still Chinese.
[10:35] <baako> ig you are on the url go on it again you will see the https lock icon
[10:35] <Zen> baako: You have non-https content on the page
[10:35] <Zen> Also your www. redirect is broken
[10:36] <baako> Zen, i added return 301 https://$server_name$request_uri; in link 18 when i comment it out it shows the non-https contents
[10:36] <tatertots> IamTrying: why isn't as important as what you plan to actually do about the situation, and you've been instructed to download a different iso of ubuntu and reinstall
[10:37] <Zen> baako: I see WP content being served over http from another domain
[10:37] <tatertots> IamTrying: why isn't as important as what you plan to actually do about the situation, and you've been instructed to download a different iso of ubuntu and reinstall, any attempt to not comply means you want to keep what you have right now and learn to love it over time.
[10:37] <IamTrying> tatertots: i have now 16.10 in English. Here is the BUG 1) I installed Ubuntu 16.10 as English 2) Lot of tranaslation is showing still in Chinese
[10:37] <tn5421> Ok, I am logged into my phone from tn5421|phone, @tatertots
[10:37] <tn5421> Rebooting my pc
[10:37] <Zen> baako: background-image: url(http://mybrilliantsite.com/..snip..hero-background-1.jpg);
[10:37] <baako> Zen, am going to try install wp again
[10:38] <tatertots> tn5421|phone: do either of the devices on either end of the cat5/ethernet cable have led/activity led lights?
[10:38] <Zen> baako: not really going to help if you are loading your theme from an external website like that
[10:39] <tatertots> tn5421|phone: a simple visual glance at the computer, and a short walk to the router/switch is all that's required to answer yes or no
[10:40] <baako> Zen, seem to work now
[10:40] <IamTrying> BUG - when i do `df -h` its showing i have 3,9G available ??????????? my disk is 40GB
[10:40] <tn5421|phone> Green light is on, orange not flashing on pc
[10:40] <IamTrying> OK - i can see the /dev/sda4 29G and available 23GB
[10:40] <IamTrying> its working now. thanks
[10:40] <Zen> baako: idk, I'm getting the WP setup page now, you should restrict access to the webserver so only you can access it whilst setting these things up
[10:40] <AngryPanda> Hi has anyone tried using Instalooter or instatake?
[10:41] <tatertots> tn5421|phone: that's called a link light...it let's you know you are connected to something at the physical level at minimum...and that's kinda important
[10:41] <baako> Zen, yes i wanted to see if the issue was because i was trying to do ssl on an already set up WP site
[10:41] <Zen> baako: like I said, the issue was that you were serving insecure content on a secure page, your certificate was valid otherwise
[10:41] <tn5421|phone> Lights proper on router
[10:42] <tatertots> tn5421|phone: good
[10:42] <tn5421|phone> Tatertots: it's connected but the data transfer light on my pc is not lighting at all
[10:43] <drjam> i am trying to migrate myself (and if this works, my small office) from microsoft to linux. the repladement must also do GAMES. ..... does anyone have experience with: ATI RX 380 8GB card, and also Fan speed control.... and Corsair H110i water cooling control?
[10:43] <drjam> phew
[10:43] <drjam> thats a bit
[10:43] <tn5421|phone> Unfortunately only one light on router for each Ethernet for some reason
[10:43] <tatertots> tn5421|phone: do you own a usb flash drive, to move information from the system and transport it back to windows10 where you have internet?
[10:43] <tn5421|phone> I do
[10:44] <Zen> drjam: yes, maybe, no respectively.
[10:44] <tatertots> tn5421|phone: plug it in make sure it's accessible
[10:44] <drjam> lol cool Zen
[10:44] <drjam> its a big ask, and a big deep end i may end up having to suck the teet of ms after all
[10:44] <Zen> drjam: one thing at a time, for the graphics card you'll need the xf86-video-amdgpu drivers at the very least
[10:45] <eXpl0it3r> I'm running into an issue with etckeeper while trying to upgrade: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23809791/
[10:45] <tatertots> tn5421|phone: usb flash drive ready?
[10:45] <ppf> eXpl0it3r: looks like you've thoroughly messed up your PATH
[10:46] <eXpl0it3r> ppf: I figured, however it's working fine when using the terminal, but it's messed up when the scripts run
[10:47] <drjam> ok thanks zen. ive downloaded them i think, well, something from the official AMD ati website, had missing dependancies, i ll try again in a minute
[10:47] <drjam> and manually add the dependancies
[10:47] <Zen> drjam: welp, I should explain this carefully
[10:48] <Zen> xf86-video-amdgpu is an open source driver for your graphics card, its generally included in the distros repositories
[10:48] <tn5421|phone> Ubuntu doesn't want to detect my jump drive
[10:48] <Zen> drjam: sounds like you downloaded the proprietary driver from AMD, I'm assuming some version of catalyst/fglrx which is kind of depriciated (but can still work)
[10:49] <eXpl0it3r> ppf: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games
[10:49] <Zen> or you know.. leave
[10:50] <tatertots> tn5421|phone: do you own any other removable media to try?
[10:50] <ssc_> Hello, I have two filesystems, /dev/root that is mounted on / and /dev/sdc that is mounted on /opt
[10:50] <ssc_> And I would like to merge them into 1 without loosing any data, how can I do that?
[10:52] <Zen> ssc_: you can't merge 2 partitions, you have to remove one and extend the other to use the freed space
[10:52] <Zen> which means backing up the data to somewhere else while you do it
[10:53] <ssc_> Zen: How can I do without loosing data?
[10:53] <eXpl0it3r> hmm okay, manually typing export PATH seems to work
[10:54] <ssc_> Any where I could read about it please?
[10:54] <eXpl0it3r> So why is PATH not "exported" by default?
[10:54] <Zen> .. back up your files to somewhere not on that PC
[10:54] <ssc_> Zen: Which files? :O
[10:54] <Zen> The ones in /opt
[10:54] <Zen> Unless your / has enough space for them to store temporarily
[10:55] <ssc_> '/'\ has only 20G while /opt has 162 G that's why I want to merge
[10:55] <ssc_> '/' has only 20G while /opt has 162 G that's why I want to merge
[10:56] <Zen> Then you need a disk with 162GB of free space to copy the data too
[10:56] <Zen> You can't merge'
[10:56] <Zen> .. You can't "merge" 2 partitions
[10:56] <ssc_> Yes I understand that Zen
[10:56] <ssc_> But /opt has only 14G data in it right now
[10:57] <Zen> Ok, so you need a disk with 15GB of space to copy the data from /opt to temporarily
[10:57] <ssc_> Is it possible to create another partition of 20G, put the data in there, remove /dev/sdc and resize /dev/root or vice versa and then place data?
[10:58] <k1l> ssc_: you can resize partitions from the system you run. you need to boot a live system for that
[10:58] <Zen> I guess you can attempt to shrink the partition that /opt is on, but its dangerous and may result in data loss :)
[10:58] <ssc_> k1l: I have no option, it is hosted with linode and being used as a server
[10:59] <k1l> ssc_: some hosters offer recoveries, where you can manage the partitions from
[10:59] <ssc_> k1l: Yeah just started looking at that
[11:00] <tatertots> tn5421|phone: ?
[11:02] <ssc_> https://postimg.org/image/7u3rdqxg1/ Can not see /dev/root
[11:03] <k1l> ssc_: maybe you better ask the linode guys how to solve that issue
[11:11] <Zen> ssc_: /dev/sda is probably /
[11:11] <Zen> you'll find that /dev/root is just a symlink to the device that is actually the root FS
[11:13] <ssc_> Zen: How do I make sure if it's symlink?
[11:13] <Zen> ls -la /dev
[11:14] <Zen> e.g. mine looks like: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root           4 Nov 21 13:36 root -> sda2
[11:14] <Zen> The l in the first bit means its a link, you can also tell because of the -> too
[11:15] <ssc_> Yeah but there is nothing like that in there
[11:15] <ssc_> sda,sdb and sdc are not symlinks at all
[11:15] <Zen> ssc_: yes, I know that, but /dev/root is
[11:15] <ssc_> There is nothing like root inside /dev :O
[11:16] <Zen> pastebin the output of: ls -la /dev
[11:17] <ssc_> Zen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23809975/
[11:18] <Zen> ok, where did you get the idea that /dev/root is even a thing, because its not in there at all
[11:19] <Zen> alternatively, pastebing the output of: lsblk
[11:20] <k1l> ssc_: as i already suggested: you might want to talk to the linode support because of that special linode setup
[11:20] <ssc_> By df -h
[11:20] <yeeve> I'm using rsyslog and imfile for apache logs, does anyone know how to stop the logs also being added to the main syslog file? ( usually there is the & stop command but I'm not sure if it will work in this case)
[11:21] <ssc_> Zen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23809985/
[11:21] <ssc_> k1l: Even special doesn't make magical so there must be something I am missing
[11:21] <Zen> ssc_: your '/' is /dev/sda : sda    8:0    0  19.5G  0 disk /
[11:23] <ssc_> Okay so I want to get all the quota in /dev/sdc in to /dev/sda and remove /dev/sdc
[11:23] <TuxCrazy> what is the difference between installing Xubuntu and installing Ubuntu and then intalling Xfce?
[11:25] <yeeve> TuxCrazy, if you want XFCE I recommend installing xubuntu, the differences can be squashed but I prefer a clean base, if you install ubuntu and move to xfce you will have old ubuntu-desktop stuff hanging around and possible duplicated apps and stuff.
[11:25] <TuxCrazy> ok. That is what I wanted to know.
[11:26] <akik> ssc_: if you don't want to talk to linode support, one quite easy solution is to mount /dev/sdc to somewhere in your root file system
[11:26] <akik> ssc_: some directory that you know will grow big
[11:27] <TuxCrazy> Do we get the same packages with same versions when we update in 16.04.1 and 16.10?
[11:27] <Zen> akik: sounds like his / is full and wants to use space from sdc instead, tbh I doubt this will work anyway because it looks like they are virtual disks
[11:27] <k1l> TuxCrazy: no. 16.10 got a different state of packages.
[11:27] <k1l> TuxCrazy: but keep in mind, that on 16.10 you need to upgrade to the next ubuntu version every 6 months. its not a LTS
[11:27] <re-l> hello every
[11:27] <TuxCrazy> k1l, different means what?
[11:28] <k1l> TuxCrazy: newer version in most cases
[11:28] <TuxCrazy> ok. But, do we usually encounter any problems in upgrading in case of 16.10 or will it be easy and smooth?
[11:29] <TuxCrazy> and is 16.10 as stable as 16.04?
[11:29] <ruin2itive> Hello there
[11:29] <k1l> TuxCrazy: its smooths since the original ubuntu packages get automated testing for the upgrade. but that doesnt count for 3rd party apps and repos (like PPAs)
[11:29] <k1l> TuxCrazy: both are stable. they dont change once released.
[11:30] <TuxCrazy> ok.
[11:30] <ruin2itive> Could anyone help me install proper drivers?
[11:30] <TuxCrazy> then, what exactly is the purpose of having two versions?
[11:31] <k1l> TuxCrazy: a lot of people dont want to upgrade the version. so 16.04 is LTS and gets support for 5 years. so people can move directly to 18.04 then
[11:31] <TuxCrazy> ok
[11:34] <varazir> Hmm, I created a new account on my 16.04 box used "adduser", after loging in to that account I run ssh-keygen. No can't I connect to my server using keys I have stored in authorized_keys on another account
[11:34] <varazir> conting with the "other" account
[11:38] <cookie4700> varazir : How do you make the connection?
[11:39] <varazir> cookie4700: I'm using a app on my android called Irssi ConnectBot
[11:39] <varazir> has worked fine untill today. I did a reboot today
[11:41] <ppf> varazir: check dmesg and auth.log
[11:41] <cookie4700> on the server: does the command 'tail /var/log/auth' give any reason why the login is rejected
[11:41] <varazir> ok thanks
[11:43] <varazir> found it
[11:43] <varazir> Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory /home/mircwars/.ssh
[11:44] <varazir> what should the access be on that folder ?
[11:45] <varazir> cookie4700: ppf what is the default access for .ssh ?
[11:47] <ppf> u+r
[11:49] <cookie4700> 600
[11:50] <ppf> right, sorry, u+rwx
[11:52] <ziguardian> hallo any body can help me?, my ubuntu stuck with black screen and blinking cursor
[11:52] <varazir> ppf: cookie4700 thanks, it's woing again!
[11:54] <varazir> ppf: so <segment>+<type of access> segment like in user/group/global
[11:56] <ppf> varazir: yes, check man chmod for details
[11:57] <fub> Hi. Can someone recommend a good/strong wifi usb stick to run with ubuntu?
[11:57] <fub> It's a desktop machine I want to connect to my network
[12:00] <varazir> much easier to understand, but I guess I should learn number codes as well
[12:00] <varazir> working*
[12:04] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:04] <hateball> fub: if it's a desktop, why not a full card? also ##hardware might be better
[12:05] <fub> hateball: whats the benefit of a card?
[12:05] <hateball> fub: fwiw, I use a intel 7265 card in my desktop
[12:05] <hateball> fub: that you can something proper, like intel, and not something far beyond terrible that uses realtek
[12:06] <fub> so better performance?
[12:06] <hateball> fub: among other things yes. as you'll have more or better antennas connected to a card
[12:08] <k1l> fub: pci cards got better radio reception due to having real antennas
[12:09] <fub> k1l: something like this? https://www.amazon.de/TP-Link-TL-WN851ND-WLAN-Adapter-Mbit/dp/B0019EMF2M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484568538&sr=8-1&keywords=wlan+pci
[12:09] <Zen> Some even have antenas that you can place where you like
[12:09] <fub> oh, only 2.4ghz
[12:09] <k1l> fub: support for that should be out of the box.
[12:10] <fub> where can I check for the support?
[12:10] <fub> Currently looking at the TP-Link TL-WDN4800 N900 (because of 5ghz)
[12:11] <fub> is WOL working with this?
[12:11] <JP____> Currently looking @ my screen
[12:11] <fub> I guess not
[12:11] <FMan> why is my /bin/sh a link to /bin/dash?
[12:11] <k1l> fub: the n900 should be ootb, too
[12:12] <k1l> FMan: that is the standard on ubuntu and debian. scripts are dash. user terminals are bash
[12:12] <k1l> fub: i do look at https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WLAN/Karten/ since i understand german
[12:14] <fub> ah, great
[12:15] <FMan> ok, where do I find the source code? such as the somewhat non-standard strcasecmp function - where is it implemented on Ubuntu?
[12:15] <fub> k1l: and WOL?
[12:15] <fub> is that possible?
[12:15] <Rabbitnightmare_> fub: I use realtek and intel cards only
[12:16] <guillaume___> hi
[12:16] <k1l> fub: i dont know. i guess the mainboard needs support too. i dont use WoL
[12:16] <JP____> Guillaume :hi:
[12:17] <JP____> I know a Guillaume in real life, hope your him :p
[12:18] <guillaume___> i'm running Ubuntu on a Laptop with Nvidia + intel graphics and i experience a lot of tearing. I found a solution which was to switch to the intel graphics by going to nvidia-settings and selecting intel (Power Saving Mode), which works better but i then want to tweak the xorg.conf which disappeared after a reboot, this only happens if i set Intel graphics as primary do you know why ? (JP, no sorry but i'm a nice Guillaume as al
[12:18] <fub> k1l: all right
[12:19] <fub> thanks for your help
[12:21] <FMan> I finded the strcasecmp source from NetBSD libkern
[12:24] <k1l> FMan: i dont understand what your exact issue is but this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh  got some details about the change to dash and some specifics
[12:24] <FMan> nah, I had no actual problem with it - was just wondering :)
[12:25] <k1l> FMan: the source for dash you can find here: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dash
[12:25] <FMan> awesome, thank you
[12:32] <FMan> hmm, there is an Ubuntu Core on cdimage - does that do anything on its own?
[12:40] <elio_> jjjjjjj
[12:41] <Walker_m> someone here ?
[12:41] <JP____> Guillaume_: Do you have cpu-utils installed?
[12:41] <k1l> Walker_m: yep. just ask a ubuntu question :)
[12:42] <Walker_m> ok (2) Connection 'wificonn' is not available on the device wlp4s0 at this time.
[12:49] <pombreda> Hi: is there some API of sorts for http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ?
[12:51] <FinalX> pombreda: not directly, but see http://askubuntu.com/questions/620956/does-packages-ubuntu-com-provide-a-search-api
[12:52] <pombreda> FinalX: thanks :)
[12:54] <tatertots> Walker_m: hi
[12:55] <tatertots> Walker_m: are you chatting fromthe computer in question right now?
[12:55] <pombreda> FinalX: this sounds indeed a tad complicated ... but that's a start
[12:56] <keesj> Hi
[12:57] <keesj> I was trying to install kde (apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:58] <Walker_m> tatertots>hi
[12:58] <keesj> )  on 16.04. and I now have a dependency problem (two package provide the same file in google-drive-something) trying to overwrite '/usr/share/accounts/services/google-im.service', which is also in package account-plugin-google 0.12+16.04.20160126-0ubuntu1
[12:59] <JP____> Is configuring a database an ubuntu question?
[12:59] <keesj> I am now in "I can only to atp-get install -f" but that fails mode
[12:59] <Ben64> keesj: pastebin full error
[13:00] <keesj> Ben64 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23810279/
[13:01] <Ben64> keesj: why are you running as root?
[13:01] <keesj> I don't care about google (nor telepathy) and would like to atp-get remove account-plugin-google
[13:02] <keesj> Ben64: that is the way I do things (lxc containt type access using lxc-attach --name mycontainer (being root is not the problem)
[13:02] <Ben64> it can be a problem
[13:03] <Ben64> apt-get purge -f account-plugin-google
[13:03] <bruce__> Hi there, someone can tell me where i find a version of live-build with efi support ?
[13:04] <Ben64> bruce__: pretty sure all the latest images support efi
[13:04] <keesj> ok, I just never experienced it http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23810290/ (apt-get purge -f account-plugin-google)
[13:05] <keesj> (I am also fine removing unity-scope-gdrive)
[13:05] <ioria> keesj, sudo dpkg -P account-plugin-google unity-scope-gdrive   and   sudo apt-get -f install
[13:05] <Ben64> do that then
[13:07] <keesj> looks good! does calling dpkg directly bypass this problem ?
[13:07] <ioria> maybe
[13:08] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ktp-accounts-kcm/+bug/1557698
[13:08] <ignacio> I need help D:
[13:08] <ignacio> "cant read" /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ - DirectoryExists (2: No such file or directory)
[13:09] <keesj> Ben64: thanks a lot
[13:09] <Ben64> ignacio: ls -ld /etc/apt/apt.conf.d         .... also what are you doing
[13:11] <ignacio> ignacio@ignacio-laptop:~$ ls -ld /etc/apt/apt.conf.d
[13:11] <ignacio> ls: cannot access '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d': No such file or directory
[13:11] <ignacio> ignacio@ignacio-laptop:~$
[13:11] <ignacio> D::
[13:12] <OerHeks> ignacio, on what linux version is this?
[13:12] <ignacio> ubuntu 17.04, agh I don't have support here
[13:13] <sievert> Hello! can i in ubuntu programming on c# and run .net applications?
[13:13] <OerHeks> indeed, join #ubuntu+1 please
[13:13] <ioria> ignacio, dpkg -l update-notifier-common
[13:13] <bruce__> sievert: you can use mono
[13:14] <sievert> You say about monodevelop?
[13:14] <bruce__> yes
[13:14] <sievert> bruce__ , thank you
[13:14] <ignacio> ioria, http://people.sugarlabs.org/ignacio/pi/KPPgAVHSXi.txt
[13:15] <ioria> ignacio, try to reinstall (apt-get install --reinstall ) but i'am seeing that you are on zesty
[13:18] <ppf> so, i've got an sd card which failed with some disk errors. running fsck says "unable to set superblock flags"
[13:18] <ignacio> ioria, that did not work :(
[13:19] <ioria> ignacio, try to purge and reinstall
[13:19] <ioria> ignacio, no stop
[13:19] <ignacio> D::
[13:19] <ioria> ignacio, don't do it
[13:19] <ppf> any idea how to fix the filesystem?
[13:20] <ignacio> how about fdisk?, I guess it could work
[13:20] <ioria> ignacio, it will remove a lot of stuff
[13:21] <ppf> !paste
[13:21] <ppf> here's an excerpt from dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23810340/
[13:24] <pombreda> FinalX: re: the launchpad API... it is decent after all... but I cannot find a way to get the copyright file of a given package-version
[13:24] <pombreda> any idea?
[13:24] <ioria> ignacio, have you tried to just remake the folder ?
[13:25] <ignacio> Found it on /lost and found
[13:27] <FinalX> pombreda: sorry, I haven't really tried anything that you're trying either.. no idea :)
[13:31] <acosonic> Just wtf is this on server? https://gist.github.com/acosonic/aa83b97f80bd5f2fd143b5cce2accbde
[13:32] <Southern_Gentlem> looks like your crypted fs isnt open so it can update initramfs
[13:33] <ioria> acosonic, are you using encryption ?
[13:33] <acosonic> I don
[13:33] <acosonic> I don't think so...
[13:34] <ioria> acosonic, btw it's a warning ...  dpkg -l cryptsetup
[13:34] <k1l> acosonic: its just warnings
[13:35] <k1l> so maybe you have just cryptsetup and mdadm installed but dont use it?
[13:35] <acosonic> hm, I'm doing something from stackoverflow
[13:35] <ppf> what do you guys think, broken filesystem or hardware defect?
[13:35] <acosonic> grub-install /dev/<your_device_id> what's my device ID?
[13:35] <ioria> acosonic, sudo blkid
[13:35] <k1l> ppf: sdcard or such?
[13:36] <ppf> sdcard, yes
[13:36] <ioria> ppf, i'd try to format on a win box
[13:36] <ppf> failed with some disk errors. running fsck says "unable to set superblock flags"
[13:36] <ppf> ioria: why specifically?
[13:36] <k1l> ppf: did you try a reboot? is it native reader or some usb device reader?
[13:36] <acosonic> ioria https://gist.github.com/acosonic/b57423189765b12d81824e343570ddb2
[13:36] <ppf> k1l: native reader
[13:36] <ioria> ppf,  it's less finicky
[13:36] <ppf> in my laptop, and also on a pi
[13:37] <ioria> acosonic, no, i asked you dpkg -l cryptsetup
[13:37] <k1l> acosonic: is that a vm?
[13:37] <acosonic> I removed it
[13:37] <acosonic> yeah, VM
[13:37] <ppf> ioria: hm. i'd prefer to fix the fs over scrapping it, even if win were successful
[13:37] <ioria> ppf,  i see
[13:38] <ioria> acosonic, reboot
[13:38] <ppf> here's an excerpt from dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23810340/
[13:38] <jeanjack> hi there
[13:39] <acosonic> well it's still alive...
[13:39] <acosonic> :D
[13:39] <cipher6> Anyone wanna help try to solve a wget problem?
[13:40] <ioria> acosonic, the warning  or cryptsetup ?
[13:40] <acosonic> I removed crypt... Apt-get remove...
[13:40] <acosonic> http://askubuntu.com/questions/316486/problems-with-cryptsetup-during-update
[13:41] <jeanjack> i have 3 server, with one that exports multiple nfs on both of other servers
[13:41] <k1l> acosonic: should not be needed to reinstall grub. update-grub should do
[13:41] <cipher6> tatertots: Help with wget?
[13:41] <jeanjack> for one server, i can see all the nfs mounted well
[13:41] <ioria> acosonic,  and paste fstab
[13:42] <jeanjack> on the other, only one nfs mountpoint won't work
[13:42] <jeanjack> stuck in mount action.
[13:42] <acosonic>  fstab
[13:42] <acosonic> -bash: fstab: command not found
[13:42] <jeanjack> acosonic: cat /etc/fstab
[13:42] <ioria> acosonic, ^
[13:43] <cipher6> Ben64: any help to be had w/ wget this morning?
[13:43] <acosonic> https://gist.github.com/acosonic/a272797e4c939d822ca9481f88e57976
[13:43] <k1l> cipher6: if you state your issue one could help
[13:43] <ioria> acosonic, what is LABEL=/ / ext4
[13:44] <ioria> acosonic, maybe replace with its uuid
[13:44] <jeanjack> someone can help me in where i can look ? fstabs and export file looks good
[13:44] <ignacio> is it possible to dissable apt-check//update-notifier?
[13:44] <cipher6> k1l: Thanks, I know of a server full of iso's I'd like to have an i  want it to only download the english language ones
[13:44] <acosonic> ioria I don't have a clue
[13:44] <k1l> ppf: as i said, i would try a reboot and see again. if it still fails, i would try another host machine to rule out driver/hardware issues.
[13:44] <acosonic> I guess everything is on that /
[13:45] <cipher6> k1l: the naming convention is http:url.com\ProgramName\en_blahblah.iso   Will wget work recursively if I feed it the recur flag with the url as
[13:45] <cipher6> http:url.com\*\en*.iso
[13:46] <cipher6> I only want the english language versions and not the 100's of iso's in each program folder
[13:48] <k1l> cipher6: hmm, i dont know if that works. but i think ti doesnt work
[13:49] <mynameisJulian> Hello :)
[13:49] <cipher6> right so how do we make it work k1l
[13:49] <cipher6> lol
[13:49] <ioria> acosonic, i'am not good with VM, but you can backup fstab and replace LABEL with b36b9d27-0ab9-4371-9c07-9f352804e637 (from your sudo blkid)
[13:49] <k1l> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/117988/wget-with-wildcards-in-http-downloads   cipher6 seems it works with --accept-regex
[13:49] <acosonic> why would I do it if it's working fine, I don't understand it...
[13:50] <acosonic> it's magic for me :D
[13:50] <k1l> acosonic: is there still an issue?
[13:50] <ioria> acosonic, yes, it's just a warning
[13:50] <mynameisJulian> Xubuntu or Lubuntu? Which is better?
[13:51] <acosonic> no issue I rebooted, server went up no problems
[13:51] <bazhang> mynameisJulian, matter of opinion, try both and decide
[13:51] <OerHeks> mynameisJulian, better is subjective, lubuntu is more lightweight than xubuntu, i like xubuntu more.
[13:51] <OerHeks> !flavor
[13:52] <azaelani> [#ubuntu] Hi brother and sister, how are you ?
[13:52] <mynameisJulian> I have a Core2Duo, I think I'm gonna give xubuntu a shot. Just wanted some of your opinions
[13:52] <bazhang> azaelani, ubuntu support issue?
[13:53] <MWM> i am trying to redirect analogue output through USB instead of the mic jack...any ideas?
[13:59] <ppf> k1l: i'm holding the card in my hand, so a reboot wouldn't do much
[13:59] <ppf> i put it into my laptop to recover the fs
[13:59] <ppf> i'll try another machine, now, because the lenovo Ts sometimes have problems with their mmc driver
[14:01] <Hakon> Does anyone know if i no longer need the idmap-daemon running for nfsv4 on ubuntu?
[14:01] <Hakon> nfs client that is
[14:02] <ducasse> Hakon: do you use user id mapping?
[14:02] <Hakon> ducasse: on one or two systems, yes
[14:03] <Hakon> didn't want them part of the ldap domain
[14:03] <ducasse> Hakon: then you need it, at least on those systems
[14:03] <Hakon> the thing is: Failed to start nfs-idmapd.service: Unit nfs-server.service not found.
[14:04] <Hakon> do i need to run nfs-server to get the daemon?
[14:05] <ducasse> Hakon: i would think so, but not sure
[14:06] <ducasse> Hakon: try #ubuntu-server, maybe someone there knows for certain
[14:06] <Hakon> aight, thanks.
[14:07] <pawan_> I'm having issues with Nautilus after making changes to my theme. Every time I open Nautilus, the sidebar is empty, the toolbar buttons are not visible and sometimes even the contents of a folder remain invisible until I move the mouse over them
[14:09] <AlexQ> Just testing IRC, sorry (couln't write on ##c++ ?)
[14:10] <cookie4700> AlexQ : I think you need to register your nick with Nickserv
[14:11] <AlexQ> cookie4700: Thanks, I'll try. Had that registered but maybe it expired? Is my nick 'AlexQ' not-registered?
[14:12] <OerHeks> AlexQ, maybe it expired after 6 months
[14:12] <OerHeks> ( of none use)
[14:13] <AlexQ> Okay, thanks. Will try to register again, bye!
[14:14] <ppf> k1l: the next machine shows hardware problems with the card as well
[14:14] <ppf> so, looks like it's gone :)
[14:17] <unknowed> hi; someone could help me with some NIS configuration problem?
[14:19] <AlexQ> Nope, my nick did not expire. Do I have to add my e-mail somehow? I don't remember ever needing to confirm (or maybe even sent) my e-mail address to register on freenode?
[14:19] <OerHeks> AlexQ, you are logged in/registered now, i can see that.
[14:20] <OerHeks> so have fun in ##c++
[14:20] <AlexQ> Yeah, I know. I had wrong password in Pidgin for some reason.
[14:20] <OerHeks> :-)
[14:20] <AlexQ> Should I register my e-mail with my nickname?
[14:22] <OerHeks> AlexQ, you already have. if you don't remember/know which, join #freenode for help
[14:22] <AlexQ> oh, yeah, I know, it's already there.
[14:22] <unknowed> hi people
[14:23] <bazhang> AlexQ, please /join #freenode for more support
[14:23] <unknowed> someone could help me with NIS configuration problem?
[14:23] <AlexQ> bazhang: Thanks, I think I'm fine now :). Thanks for help!
[14:23] <rist> during a liveusb boot, if i access my hard disk and get all the files from there and then place them on my liveusb, will installing the liveusb distro get rid of these files in some way? will they be moved to the hard disk after the installation is completed?
[14:23] <icey> unknowed: you should just ask your question; if somebody knows the answer, they will respond :)
[14:24] <rist> note that i will get many the files from the hard disk to the liveusb and after installation, i will format the hard disk for the new distro
[14:24] <rist> will the files that i had saved before the installation and the formatting of the hard disk stay with me?
[14:25] <OerHeks> rist, files saved on the persistent part of your live usb will be there, but not copied to your fresh install, you need to do that manually
[14:25] <rist> OerHeks: how will it be done manually
[14:26] <OerHeks> rist, like the way you saved them to your usb?
[14:26] <sruli> rist: make sure your usb has persistancy configured, else you will loose them
[14:26] <OerHeks> drag and drop or cp /from/files /to/target
[14:26] <rist> sruli: how can i check that
[14:27] <unknowed> i have installed nis service on ubuntu server 16.04 (virtual machine) and when i execute ypwhich command, raises an  error : "can't communicate with ypbind"
[14:27] <k13nox> I don't know where to post this, but anyone know a soft who emulate a network enterprise. To test my app with different configuration. Proxy, NAT, TCP/UPD, ports...
[14:28] <rist> OerHeks, please tell me if i have properly understood the matter: i'll first copy the files from the hard disk to the liveusb's /home/test/Desktop, and after the installation is done, i'll move these files somewhere else?
[14:28] <ppf> hm, remind me quickly; when i'm host-jumping with ssh, is there a way to use identity files from each individual hop instead of from the source?
[14:28] <rist> will the files on the Desktop disappear after the installation? if they don't disappear, then i have no need to copy anything manually?
[14:29] <OerHeks> rist, the ubuntu usb-creator has that option, to make a persistent space of the remaining bytes.
[14:29] <OerHeks> it is not standard, iirc
[14:29] <OerHeks> !usb
[14:30] <sruli> rist: safest way would be to copy it to another usb device
[14:30] <OerHeks> sruli +1
[14:30] <rist> sruli: the problem is that i have only one usb device. my hard drive is 500GB, isn't there a way to make a partition and put all the backup files there, and after installation, i can get just the files from the partition?
[14:31] <rist> in this way, i'll copy nothing from the hard disk to the liveusb prior to installation, and only do it after installation
[14:31] <sruli> rist: paste output of lsblk to pate.ubuntu.com or "lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:31] <rist> actually not the liveusb, since by then the distro will be installed
[14:32] <rist> sruli, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23810624/
[14:32] <unknowed> problem: ypwhich can't establish communicattion with ypbind
[14:34] <unknowed> a NIS configuration problem i suppose; i follow the guide offer in: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNISHowTo
[14:35] <sruli> rist: you dont really have spare to make additional partition, you can shrink the current one but that comes with a warning "backup your data first"
[14:35] <sruli> rist: approx how much space do you need to backup your files?
[14:35] <rist> sruli, probably 120gb
[14:36] <rist> sruli: i really need to shift this amount of data from my current distro to the one i'll install through the liveusb
[14:36] <rist> is there any safe way to do this
[14:37] <sruli> rist: i was thinking you can use the swap space but that wont be enough... how did you create the liveusb?
[14:37] <rist> sruli: through unetbootin
[14:38] <sruli> rist: is it eufi boot?
[14:38] <rist> what do you mean by that?
[14:40] <sruli> rist: you have 2 options, 1. is make 2 partitions on your usb a small one for live cd and large one ext4 for your backup, see if unetbootin allows to select partitition for liveusb, second option is to shrink your current ext4 however you stand the risk of loosing data by doing o
[14:41] <rist> the USB is like 16gb
[14:42] <sruli> rist: so where did you plan on copying your files too?
[14:43] <sruli> rist: your current install is on lvm?
[14:44] <rist> yes
[14:45] <rist> i guess there's no safe option left but to buy four 32gb usb's
[14:46] <sruli> rist: you can get a 128gb, or 2x64...  maybe there is another way ..."sudo lvdisplay | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:47] <EvilTerran> hello! I'm having some trouble downloading source packages - I keep getting "gpgv: Can't check signature: public key not found"
[14:47] <rnm> quit
[14:47] <EvilTerran> I'd understand that if I was using a 3rd-party repo, but they're from xenial-updates/main
[14:48] <EvilTerran> (this is on a fresh install of xenial - the only thing of significance I've done to it so far is to "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade", and uncomment the deb-src lines in sources.list)
[14:50] <EvilTerran> I've noticed the line before that error says "gpgv: Signature made ... using RSA key ID A744BE93", and my research indicates that's the GPG key of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarcDeslauriers
[14:50] <EvilTerran> but I'm not sure what to do with that information
[14:52] <BluesKaj> not another evil...
[14:57] <pawan> Need help fixing Nautilus caused by custom theme
[15:01] <BadJoke> Hello
[15:05] <Rabbitnightmare> pawan: you still at it?
[15:05] <Rabbitnightmare> you gotta go into the config file and fix it manually
[15:07] <pawan> Rabbitnightmare: I wanted to change the theme's color from blue to green throughout. So I made changes to the SCSS files as well as the SVG file. Everything went fine, except for Nautilus
[15:10] <pawan> Rabbitnightmare: Somebody suggested the Nautilus supports less features for SVG than Inkscape. So Nautilus is possibly having problems rendering. But I have no idea how to fix it.
[15:21] <odroid> thats not friendy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:25] <samthewildone> besides decreasing my display resolution, is there another way to have th system wide fonts larger ?
[15:25] <mr_yogurt> What's the procedure for using two monitors, one plugged into the dedicated card and one plugged into the onboard?
[15:28] <sruli> mr_yogurt: as far as i am aware you cant do that
[15:29] <mr_yogurt> sruli: i've had it working on this machine before, but i can't remember how i did it and i've reinstalled ubuntu since then
[15:29] <Southern_Gentlem> sruli,  depends on the bios of the machine
[15:29] <Southern_Gentlem> mr_yogurt,  in the bios both video ports enabled
[15:30] <Southern_Gentlem> then you should be able to goto setting display and use both
[15:30] <Southern_Gentlem> mr_yogurt, this is a desktop correct?
[15:30] <mr_yogurt> they're both enabled, but the second monitor doesn't show up when i go to display settings
[15:30] <mr_yogurt> yes
[15:31] <Southern_Gentlem> double check your bios
[15:33] <mr_yogurt> sorry, had to switch to a laptop so i could turn of the pc and still communicate
[15:33] <mr_yogurt> *off
[15:36] <janat08> my browser prompted me to instal vlc through xdg-open, and the vlc is crashing while it's not in ubuntu software
[15:36] <mr_yogurt> ok, internal graphics is definitely enabled in the bios
[15:37] <janat08> ubuntu software installed list
[15:37] <janat08> how to uninstall
[15:37] <mr_yogurt> i also have this working on the windows install on the same machine
[15:44] <mr_yogurt> previous searching i did on how to do this seemed to involve messing with xorg.conf in some way, but i didn't find exactly what was supposed to be done
[15:57] <htmangia> ciao
[15:57] <htmangia> !list
[15:58] <CSWookie> How do I find out what packages will be installed if I do apt-get install package, given the packages I currently have installed?
[15:59] <CSWookie> I have X installed, but no window manager, because I plan to just use a framebuffer.  I don't want any window managers installed if I apt-get install firefox.
[15:59] <mr_yogurt> apparently setting the default graphics in the bios to integrated graphics works
[16:01] <mr_yogurt> or, at least sort of. now i have weird resolution problems when i enable the second monitor
[16:06] <meldron> hi guys, are there any limitations in using setcap 'cap_net_bind_service=+ep' with ubuntu? i am trying to bind a priv port with node, but it wont work
[16:11] <mbuf> Is there anyone here who uses Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro?
[16:19] <meldron> just figured it out, most paritions are mounted with nosuid, how can i mount change default mount options for file systems?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> me if you're referring to UUID in fstab then sudo blkid will give you the entries needed for particular partitions/device
[16:22] <BluesKaj> devices
[16:22] <BluesKaj> meldron,^
[16:22] <art_> hi
[16:23] <art_> hello
[16:24] <MindSpark> hey, I upgraded to 16.04 and my old vim-gnome is gone
[16:24] <MindSpark> when I do apt-get install vim-gnome I get the following
[16:24] <MindSpark> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:24] <MindSpark>  vim-gnome : Depends: vim-common (= 2:7.4.1689-3ubuntu1.2) but 2:8.0.0134-1ubuntu1~ppa1~t is to be installed
[16:24] <MindSpark>              Depends: vim-runtime (= 2:7.4.1689-3ubuntu1.2) but 2:8.0.0134-1ubuntu1~ppa1~t is to be installed
[16:24] <MindSpark> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[16:25] <ducasse> !paste | MindSpark
[16:25] <P3R> hello
[16:26] <MindSpark> sorry about that, didn't realize the output was so long
[16:26] <P3R> can i got please
[16:26] <P3R> can i got banned please
[16:26] <mr_yogurt> When I have two monitors, one plugged into internal graphics and one plugged into normal graphics, my ui gets all screwy. The mouse is (visually) a few hundred pixels right of where it actually is (where it clicks), and windows are wider than they should be.
[16:28] <P3R> can i got banned >???
[16:28] <P3R> please
[16:28] <P3R> i need to get banned
[16:28] <P3R> i test thing
[16:29] <P3R> iwill paste to get banned
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[16:29] <P3R> * Topic for #ubuntu set by dax!~dax@freenode/staff/dax at Tue Jan 10 00:03:47 2017
[16:30] <ducasse> P3R: this is not the place for this
[16:30] <P3R> fuck off
[16:30] <P3R> please
[16:30] <P3R> @_@
[16:30] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: can you open terminal?
[16:30] <P3R> i want to get band
[16:30] <P3R> i test something
[16:31] <P3R> ducasse: if you have a access to band me
[16:31] <P3R> please do it
[16:31] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: let me check. i've been screwing around with the settings and it might be a minute or so before i get back to the state it was
[16:31] <Southern_Gentlem> !ops
[16:31] <ducasse> P3R: if i could i would, trust me. try #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:32] <genii> Southern_Gentlem: Please don't use !ops unless there's some acutal channel emergency
[16:32] <ghostal> having some issues setting up grub to boot windows 7 and ubuntu 16.04. windows 7 is on sda and ubuntu is on sdb (althought sda was unplugged while ubuntu was installed, for safety's sake :) ). output of boot-repair here: http://paste2.org/fmbwFX2F
[16:33] <mr_yogurt> genii: what would qualify as an actual channel emergency? i'm curious now
[16:34] <ghostal> when i've tried to auto-repair with boot-repair, i get an error that begins "GPT detected. Please create a BIOS-Boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag)."
[16:34] <ghostal> but things generally boot okay
[16:34] <ghostal> into ubuntu
[16:34] <genii> mr_yogurt: Most often bots spamming, but it can be other things like a user being harassed or numerous other things
[16:35] <P3R> E'G
[16:35] <P3R> DH
[16:35] <P3R> DFG
[16:35] <P3R> DFG
[16:35] <P3R> DF
[16:35] <P3R> GFD
[16:35] <ghostal> and i can boot into windows by going into the UEFI and choosing the right option from some kind of boot menu choice thing there
[16:35] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: ok yeah i can access a terminal
[16:35] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: in terminal> sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[16:37] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: now what?
[16:37] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[16:37] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: press enter      then share the url/link here
[16:39] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23811079
[16:41] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: apt list --installed|grep nvid||pastebinit
[16:41] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: press enter      then share the url/link here
[16:44] <hydrajump> I found the `ubuntu` user that's created in the live cd session in /etc/casper.conf. How can I set a password for this user when remastering the live cd?
[16:45] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23811105
[16:45] <tatertots> mr_yogurt:   pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:45] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: press enter      then share the url/link here
[16:46] <mr_yogurt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/2811112
[16:46] <mr_yogurt> tatertots ^
[16:47] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: oops. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23811112
[16:49] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: glxinfo|grep OpenGL &> ~/nfo.nfo
[16:49] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: you won't see anything, just let me know when you have completed the step
[16:50] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: finished. printed 'Error: unable to open display'
[16:51] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: you should NOT be doing this as root
[16:52] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: i didn't. or at least i don't think i did
[16:53] <IhrFussel> I'm trying to move some folder (with subfolders) to another directory "mv folder/ .folder1/folder2/folder3/" and it says "directory is not empty" o.o
[16:54] <IhrFussel> Wait nevermind...I guess that's the error you get if another folder with the same name already exists
[16:54] <IhrFussel> Kinda misleading
[16:55] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: no worries, not a big deal
[16:55] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: glxinfo|grep OpenGL
[16:56] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: then what?
[16:58] <mr_yogurt> i re-ran the first step but in the messed up gui, didn't get that thing about 'unable to open display' and nfo.nfo has some text in it about opengl
[16:58] <mr_yogurt> tatertots^
[17:00] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: did you see information when you ran the command
[17:00] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: glxinfo|grep OpenGL
[17:00] <mr_yogurt> yeah
[17:00] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: glxinfo|grep OpenGL|pastebinit
[17:01] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: paste.ubuntu.com/23811173/
[17:03] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: nvidia-settings &> ~/nfo.nfo
[17:03] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: if the nvidia utility opens just close it
[17:04] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: done
[17:04] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: pastebinit ~/nfo.nfo
[17:05] <mr_yogurt> paste.ubuntu.com/23811188/
[17:06] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: ** Message: PRIME: is it supported? yes
[17:06] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: i'd like to ask you a few questions about your symptoms
[17:06] <mr_yogurt> ok
[17:07] <mr_yogurt> quick rundown: if i set ubuntu to use both monitors, all windows are now stretched horizontally and when i click, the actual clicking location is a few hundred pixels to the left of where it should be (where the mouse is)
[17:08] <mr_yogurt> launcher bar is not stretched, and the mouse is in the right spot for it
[17:10] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: a little bit more testing has revealed that the mouse is moved over proportionally to the left: the mouse is contained within the right monitor, and clicking when the mouse is at the left of the right monitor will be stretched all the way to the left of the left monitor. if i click at the very right of the right monitor, the click is in the right spot
[17:11] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: check your x and y axis's with xrandr
[17:12] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: sounds like there's some padding going on in the way you have your displays configured
[17:12] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: if you run> xrandr
[17:12] <mr_yogurt> i ran xrandr and i'm not sure what i'm looking for
[17:12] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: if you run> xrandr    it'll show you
[17:13] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: look at the top there
[17:13] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: tells you your offsets
[17:13] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: let me look at it
[17:13] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23811322/
[17:15] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: HDMI-0 connected primary 1920x1080+1280+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 521mm x 293mm
[17:15] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: see that "+1280+0"
[17:16] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: yes
[17:17] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: where is the Manufacturer: SAM  Model: 125 monitor plugged into right now?
[17:17] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: i'm guessing that's a samsung
[17:17] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: the samsung is plugged into the onboard
[17:18] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: it's an old monitor i had laying around and my card doesn't take vga
[17:18] <zacktu> I'm trying to install Tomcat using instructions for Ubuntu 16.04 at Digital Ocean.  I'm at the point where I should execute systemctl.   Is there a package that contains that command?
[17:20] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: so samsung>>>intel onboard   and  ASUS VH236H (DFP-1): connected to >>>>>nvidia correct?
[17:20] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: yes
[17:24] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: looks like your settings are not configured to what you are wanting visually...you have both displays as one screen#0
[17:24] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: so, how do i change it?
[17:25] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: your xrandr shows only screen#0
[17:25] <zacktu> instead of trying to restart the systemd daemon, perhaps I can accomplish that by rebooting
[17:26] <tatertots> mr_yogurt:  the other issue is that your system supports prime, and i haven't heard you mention it in your trials and tribulations
[17:26] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: have you been toggling prime as you connect displays to the intel gpu?
[17:26] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: no
[17:26] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: because that's kinda what its for
[17:27] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: until you mentioned it i hadn't even heard of it
[17:29] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: your system supports nvidia-prime
[17:30] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: when you want to use your intel, make sure to set your prime to intel...then when not in use set your prime back to nvidia
[17:31] <mr_yogurt> If i set it to intel, then I just get the left monitor. When I set it to nvidia, i get the screwy problem we've been trying to fix
[17:31] <mr_yogurt> tatertots^
[17:32] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: because you have both monitors configured as a single x screen#0
[17:32] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: once you separate them
[17:32] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: how do I separate them? that's what i don't know how to do
[17:32] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: look in your nvidai utility
[17:32] <tatertots> nvidia
[17:33] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: nvidia xserver settings?
[17:33] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: yes, you should see settings for the orientation and xenerama or xinerarmia or something like that
[17:35] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: i have an idea, can you screen shot your nvidia settings and maybe post it to http://imgure.com so i can see it
[17:35] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: i have an idea, can you screen shot your nvidia settings and maybe post it to http://imgur.com so i can see it
[17:35] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: i'll try. it's sorta difficult with the screwy mouse
[17:35] <tatertots> yeah it's http://imgur.com ...it's a free image hosting site, no sign up required to post images :)
[17:36] <kang00> What's difference Between coreboot and libreboot
[17:36] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: also, which settings tab you want?
[17:36] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: yeah once you get the settings proper the mouse will be fine
[17:36] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: the one that shows the two monitors with the gold fish and xinerama
[17:36] <genii> kang00: Libreboot is basically coreboot but with open source firmwares
[17:38] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: i'm not seeingit
[17:38] <mr_yogurt> *seeing it
[17:38] <Aamit> Hi all
[17:39] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: i'll screen shot mine and post it..give me a sec
[17:39] <mrchairman> I'm looking for a good LESS css editor
[17:39] <kang00> (kang00) Coreboot is closed?
[17:39] <kang00> genii
[17:39] <mrchairman> You guys know all, tell me what to download
[17:40] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: what's your prime set to right now?
[17:40] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: nvidia
[17:41] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: ok you should be seeing all the settings then
[17:42] <genii> kang00: Maybe read https://libreboot.org/docs/#why
[17:44] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: this is in the 'X Server Display Configuration' tab right?
[17:45] <Aristide> YEAH ! I have solved my Steam problem \o/
[17:45] <Jakey3> how do i troubleshoot an ip and port i.e. why its not loading a web installer
[17:46] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: The weird thing is, when I look at the help for that tab, it mentions Xinerama. but it's not actually there in the tab.
[17:46] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: here's my xrandr for my dual monitor nvidia setup http://termbin.com/htw8
[17:48] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: if it's missing you might have a driver issue...it shouldn't be missing.
[17:48] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: you should see xinerama and stuff like that
[17:49] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: you kinda need to turn that feature off right now and if it's missing that's going to be rather difficult
[17:50] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: is it possible to turn it off by editing a file and rebooting?
[17:50] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: i was just about to suggest a reboot because you hadn't been toggling your prime properly
[17:51] <rubenwardy> Hi! My laptop only has one AUX slot. On Windows when you plug something in, it asks you what it is (headphones or microphone). On Ubuntu it just assumes it's a headphone. How can I get it to receive input?
[17:51] <rubenwardy> Tried googling but no results
[17:52] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: there's something about prime that you may need to know
[17:52] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: what?
[17:53] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: after you toggle it you have to log out and log back in for setting to be proper.
[17:53] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: i'm pretty sure i did that the one time i intentionally toggled prime
[17:53] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: anytime you toggle...log out of the system and log back in
[17:54] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: rebooted, and still messed up
[17:54] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: is xerama and stuff still not showing/
[17:54] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: and still no xinerama
[17:54] <tatertots> ?
[17:54] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: still gone
[17:56] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: on the xserver display config tab area where it shows the two monitors
[17:57] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: what is your "configuration" set to?
[17:57] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: its a drop down menu thing
[17:57] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: X screen 0. there's no other options
[17:57] <mr_yogurt> other than 'disabled'
[17:58] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: oh i see...it's not the settings...it's the configuration you are using with that old arse monitor
[17:59] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: you have no way of getting both monitors on the nvid chip at the same time because you don't have a dp/hdmi > Vga dongle correct?
[17:59] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: sadly, yes
[18:00] <neenee> if you have the two ports, you may need to change a setting in your bios to allow both to be active
[18:00] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: you could put both on the intel.....but that kinda negates having a nice gtx 1xxx series
[18:00] <neenee> Not available in all BIOSes and I can not name the exact setting
[18:01] <mr_yogurt> neenee: both monitors work fine on my windows install on the same machine with the same setup
[18:01] <neenee> ok
[18:01] <neenee> That rules out BIOS, I agree
[18:01] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: checking your BIOS is also a good idea although if both gpu's weren't enabled in bios it would cause a nvidia-prime failure...and your prime switches between intel and nvidia like it's designed to
[18:02] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: the other thing that's working against you is your monitors do NOT support the same native resolutions
[18:03] <kang00> How to erase or format bios
[18:03] <sruli> i added a script ../dispatcher.d/90constatus to touch a file when connection goes up or down but NM does not execute it, script http://pastebin.com/s7WAq11a why not?
[18:04] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: if you look at my xrandr http://termbin.com/htw8 and compare it to yours....you see both my screen share the same resolution of full 1080HD....yours is catywhompus
[18:04] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: catywhompus?
[18:04] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: sorry for the slang word
[18:05] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: sorry for the slang word....yours is.....uh.....let's call it "uneven"
[18:05] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: for example if you draw two rectangles representing both monitors
[18:05] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: i like using one screen for internet and the other for code or whatever. if you're not using them for games it doesn't really matter too much if they're uneven
[18:06] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: one is 1280x1024   the other is 1920x1080   now stick them side by side
[18:07] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: now consider they are both apart of screen#0
[18:07] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: but how do we make them not both part of screen#0?
[18:08] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: VGA-1-1 connected 1280x1024+0+56 338mm x 270mm AND   HDMI-0 connected primary 1920x1080+1280+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 521mm x 293mm
[18:08] <tatertots> thats why your mouse is wonky
[18:09] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: they have to be connected to the same gpu at the same time
[18:09] <tarjo> Hello everybody. Can anyone experienced installations of ubuntu where, although the OS is very fast, the opening of applications is very slow?
[18:10] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: so there is no other way to fix it other than getting an hdmi or dvi to vga adapter?
[18:10] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: means you need a DVI>VGA dongle or a DP>vga dongle....or a newer monitor
[18:11] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: remember prime only let's you pick one OR the other NEVER both
[18:11] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: windows does not have a problem with running on both. is it just that ubuntu doesn't support it?
[18:12] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: doesn't surprise me
[18:13] <mr_yogurt> tatertots: well, thanks for the help. i'll see if i can find another monitor since this one needs replacing anyway.
[18:13] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: i've seen wlan adapters that support hotspot/AP mode in windows totally not support AP/hotspot mode with their linux firmware...same wlan chip we're talking about here
[18:14] <tatertots> mr_yogurt: and just an example to show that sometimes a chips windows firmware is NOT = to its linux firmware or vissa versa
[18:20] <supersupper> How can I manually configure which lenses Unity uses in it's search?
[18:21] <xangua> supersupper: you can go to the applications tab and list the lenses in the sidebar thing
[18:21] <ppf> what's a lense?
[18:22] <supersupper> xangua, why is it so slow at doing math?
[18:22] <MWM> I am trying to redirect audio input from USB to the built in jacks.  Is this possible?
[18:22] <supersupper> xangua, if I super then 5*5 it takes like 5-10 seconds for it to tell me "25"
[18:22] <xangua> ppf: like a search engine withing unity launcher (shows your programs, music, files, weather, recipes, Wikipedia, bugs, etc.
[18:23] <WeiJunLi> my usb flash drive is connected on hardware setting bar on Fusion like this https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/zv1pft6i0r17w4l/2017-01-16%20at%209.02%20AM.png - but on my ubuntu vm I don't see any signal to access the usb flash drive itself. Help?
[18:24] <xangua> supersupper: don't know, I suppose it's a web lens since I disable them and it doesn't appear in mind... Slow internet?
[18:24] <supersupper> xangua, internets very fast
[18:24] <supersupper> that would be crazy if it did that online !!
[18:24] <MWM> VM has been scetchy for USB support in my experience.  Ive had to boot from a live image to get it working. I would also be curious to hear the answer to thta
[18:27] <Speiros> Hi people.  How come to add a DVD player, it takes 32 files?
[18:30] <sunitknandi> Speiros: because dependencies
[18:30] <Speiros> sunitknandi It seems like a hell of a lot though eh.
[18:31] <sunitknandi> What are you trying to install? Name of the player?
[18:32] <Speiros> Well, when it searched for plugins (the generic video player) it said it needed the Gstreamer bad plugin set.  But when I selected it, it was bundled with these other files too.
[18:32] <tatertots> MWM: vbox or vmware or other?
[18:33] <MWM> tatertots:  I was replying to WeiJunLi.  Im working on audio redirection from usb to the mic inputs
[18:33] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: vmware fusion
[18:33] <tatertots> MWM: oh ok sorry
[18:34] <MWM> np :)  Just to bad my reply was only another problem :D
[18:35] <Speiros> sunitknandi Thanks too :)
[18:36] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: do other usb devices work in the ubuntu VM?
[18:36] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: this is the only one i've to test
[18:36] <WeiJunLi> well it does in the guest.
[18:36] <WeiJunLi> does work*
[18:37] <sunitknandi> Speiros, installing the whole codec pack. :P
[18:38] <uxfi> hello sunitknandi
[18:39] <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
[18:39] <BluesKaj> Speiros, are you familiar with VLC ..IME it's probly the most versatile and dependable media player, and it comes with all the necessary plugins for both Video and Audio
[18:41] <sunitknandi>  Hey uxfi
[18:44] <Speiros> BluesKaj Hey.  Sorry, was on the side.  No, I wasn't aware of it.  I'll check it out.
[18:44] <Speiros> sunitknandi Yeah, it appears that way.
[18:46] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: the vm has usb 2.0 support enabled in it's mobo settings?
[18:47] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: are you chatting from the ubuntu vm right now? yes or no
[18:48] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: ye
[18:48] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: open terminal>     sudo apt install inxi pastebin
[18:49] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: let me know once the installation had completed
[18:49] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: no package pastebin
[18:50] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: open terminal>     sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[18:50] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: pastebinit sorry i forgot the "it'
[18:51] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: let me know once the installation had completed
[18:52] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: ready yet?
[18:55] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: sorry slow connection
[18:55] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: keep going
[18:56] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: no worries...just let me know once installation is completed and we'll get started
[18:58] <padgaland> how do i clean out my /boot to get updates? already emptied my bin and ran sudo apt-get clean
[18:59] <ghostal> would anyone be able to help me with a windows 7 and ubuntu 16.04 dual boot? windows 7 is on sda and ubuntu is on sdb (althought sda was unplugged while ubuntu was installed, for safety's sake :) ). output of boot-repair here: http://paste2.org/fmbwFX2F when i've tried to auto-repair with boot-repair, i get an error that begins "GPT detected. Please create a BIOS-Boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag)."
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> padgaland  first, ls -l /boot ... use a pastebin to show it to the channel ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:00] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: ye done
[19:00] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: in terminal>      inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[19:00] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: press enter
[19:00] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: share url/link here
[19:00] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: what it does
[19:01] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: don't worry, the link does not contain any information unique to your person
[19:01] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: we're going to debug your usb issues my friend
[19:01] <padgaland> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23811892/
[19:01] <MWM> Im trying to run sound from USB input to the onboard line in.... any ideas?
[19:02] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: you will get to see the link first before you share it here
[19:03] <MWM> pavucontrol shows the sound as working but I cant hear it.  the build it analog  only has options for line in and it say "unplugged"
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> padgaland  ok, what's the outcome of   uname -r
[19:03] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23811894/
[19:04] <padgaland> 4.4.0-57-generic
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> padgaland  try    sudo apt clean && sudo apt autoremove
[19:05] <Roey> hi, I upgraded from 16.04 to 16.10, and now my system has trouble resolving address names... how can I diagnose this
[19:05] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: in terminal>      dmesg|grep Controller|pastebinit
[19:05] <Roey> ?
[19:05] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: press enter
[19:05] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: share url/link here
[19:08] <miczac> Hi, got ubuntu server: do all network interfaces have to have an entry in /etc/network/interfaces? I got US on a VM w/ 3 NICs the middle one is bridged the others host-only. I just wanted to configure the bridged but that stalls at boot time for 5 mins.
[19:09] <c1> im trying to access a remote postgress db with psql -h hostname -U username -d database
[19:10] <c1> i get the error -su: psql: command not found
[19:11] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: still there?
[19:11] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: ye sec
[19:11] <c1> works on the local postgres
[19:11] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23811960/
[19:11] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: the only output...
[19:13] <Blythe> Hello, my hdmi monitor is constantly power cycling and now showing any picture. It works on my laptop and xrandr says it's connected. Anyone have any ideas? Currently running the nvidia 367.57 drivers.
[19:14] <rizonz> why would I do grep '^foo$' ? I wonder about the ^and the $ the $ will be for everything that is follows ?
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> rizonz  ^foo means that f o o are the first three characters of the line
[19:16] <estranger> and the last 3 :)
[19:16] <rizonz> MonkeyDust: ok, I was thining that
[19:16] <rizonz> estranger: ?
[19:16] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: your vm doesn't have a usb controller
[19:16] <rizonz> MonkeyDust: but what if I want to search for it anywhere ?
[19:16] <estranger> ^ = beginning of line, $ = end of line
[19:16] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: there's any way to solve it
[19:16] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: you should probably give one
[19:16] <rizonz> ah ok
[19:16] <WeiJunLi> can you help me with that
[19:16] <estranger> just do `grep foo` to find "foo" anywhere in the line
[19:17] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: can you screen shot the motherboard settings of the vm in fusion?
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> rizonz  or grep -i to override lower and uppercase differenses
[19:17] <rizonz> MonkeyDust: yeah!
[19:18] <padgaland> thank you
[19:30] <tarjo> Hello everybody. Can anyone experienced installations of ubuntu where, although the OS is very fast, the opening of applications is very slow?
[19:31] <Southern_Gentlem> tarjo,  hard drive slow or failing ?
[19:32] <tarjo> Southern_Gentlem, hard drive tested, everything is ok
[19:33] <Southern_Gentlem> tarjo,  so starting writer is slow  and apt-get install updates is fast  if you coupld expand on you post above
[19:35] <tarjo> Southern_Gentlem, Yes, but not only writer, every App who starts for first time in session, will be slow. But terminal apps are fine.
[19:36] <Southern_Gentlem> tarjo, but the second time its fast ?
[19:36] <tarjo> Southern_Gentlem, I thought of compiz, but it wasn't the cause of that also. I reninstalled lightdm/gdm3, nothing.
[19:36] <Southern_Gentlem> writer for example should be writing to your /home
[19:36] <Southern_Gentlem> but the second time it should be faster
[19:37] <tarjo> Southern_Gentlem, yes you are right on that too.
[19:37] <Southern_Gentlem> and firefox and most of the desktop apps
[19:37] <tarjo> But who waits 6-7 seconds for the terminal to open ?
[19:38] <Southern_Gentlem> tarjo,  you do if it takes that long
[19:38] <tarjo> Before that installation, I have had another one of 16.04, and everything was working perfect on the same computer
[19:38] <Southern_Gentlem> tarjo,  now reboot and see if those same apps take as long the first time
[19:38] <tarjo> Southern_Gentlem, already done, it's the same time
[19:39] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: sorry for the delay how do i see the motherboard seetings on fusion
[19:39] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: what exactly you wanna know
[19:39] <tarjo> Anyway Southern_Gentlem, thanks a lot
[19:43] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: your vm has no usb controller....so we need to check it's settings, if it's not enabled, then that's simply a human oversight, you will enable it and go on your merry way, however if it IS enabled, you better start chatting in #vmware and possibly open a trouble ticket with vmware fusion support if you are entitled to support
[19:48] <dworkz> hmms
[20:03] <cesarock> wow, no visitava un chan desde 1990
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> cesarock  that's great, but english only here
[20:07] <Przhevalskoye> are unix books worth it?
[20:08] <Przhevalskoye> books like learning  commands n stuff
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> Przhevalskoye  if you find them useful, then they are worth it
[20:08] <cesarock> ok,I'll try to speak in English MonkeyDust
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> cesarock  and ubuntu questions only
[20:10] <Przhevalskoye> MonkeyDust: you know useful books?
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> Przhevalskoye  i use 'Ubuntu Linux Toolbox' (paperback)
[20:11] <Przhevalskoye> ill look into that one, thanks
[20:12] <Przhevalskoye> what was the fuzz between you and cesa btw?
[20:13] <hydrajump> anyone got Apple's thunderbolt ethernet adapter working on ubuntu 16.10?
[20:14] <Southern_Gentlem> hydrajump, reboot with it installed
[20:16] <cesarock> I love Ubuntu, I'm new here and everything works great. chao
[20:16] <Przhevalskoye> good to hear i guess
[20:17] <tony_> cesarock, ubuntu is great. I switched from Win10 on my laptop about half a year ago and have never wanted to switch back
[20:18] <Przhevalskoye> id like to see backwards compatibility tho
[20:19] <Przhevalskoye> or some developers coding for linux
[20:21] <hydrajump> kk4ewt: weird I've done that several times. I can see that I get a dhcp lease but when I run ifconfig there's no ethernet interface
[20:21] <hydrajump> this is from the ubuntu live cd btw
[20:22] <Przhevalskoye> u have the cable plugged in?
[20:23] <hydrajump> Przhevalskoye: yes ;)
[20:23] <Przhevalskoye> hehe
[20:23] <Przhevalskoye> ill help ya?
[20:30] <hydrajump> Przhevalskoye: ok what do you suggest?
[20:38] <Herbalist> Przwalski horse
[20:39] <Herbalist> the small horse from the tundra
[20:39] <soot> anyone done a preseed/kickstart unattended install for 16.04.01 desktop?
[20:39] <FMan> thanks for making the note of the -x option earlier for me!
[20:40] <genii> Herbalist: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[20:40] <Przhevalskoye> but live cd doesnt have all the drivers and such installed
[20:40] <Przhevalskoye> hydrajump:
[20:40] <Herbalist> genii sorry .. i skipped by the channels and commented automatically, then i realised it was not Ubuntu related
[20:41] <genii> Hm
[20:41] <RFleming> Hi!
[20:41] <RFleming> How's it goin'?
[20:41] <Przhevalskoye> genii: ur not admin of some sort so please dont act like one..
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> RFleming  great! ... type   /topic
[20:41] <Przhevalskoye> oH
[20:41]  * genii sips
[20:41] <Przhevalskoye> neveeermind
[20:42] <hydrajump> Przhevalskoye: is it possible to make it work with live cd?
[20:42] <RFleming> MonkeyDust: quite aware of the topic thanks.  Just bein' friendly.
[20:42] <Herbalist> uh oh .. thanks anyway Przhevalskoye
[20:42]  * Przhevalskoye eats his cake and shuts up
[20:42] <Przhevalskoye> ye np
[20:43] <Przhevalskoye> hydrajump: i dont know about that, why are u using live tho?
[20:43] <hydrajump> Przhevalskoye: because I just need to run it in ram temporarily.
[20:45] <Przhevalskoye> hydrajump: maybe its because of the drivers?
[20:45] <RFleming> I want to use the mini.iso for an install, but also want some of the CLI niceties that come with a full DE install (like system-properties-common, git, etc.).  What would be the best meta package to encompass these tools?
[20:48] <mcphail> RFleming: ubuntu-desktop will bring you up to a normal desktop install, but git isn't part of a metapackage like that
[20:49] <ioria> RFleming, system-properties-common ? you mean system-software-properties-common ?
[20:49] <kernello> hello everyone, my network manager has already the saved password of a network, but it didnt connect to it in my multiple trials, and asked me to enter password again, after which it connected to it. the only thing that comes to mind is that the drive has just been connected to this new machine. could this be the reason why the network didnt auto-connect?
[20:49] <ioria> *software-properties-common
[20:50] <RFleming> will not ubuntu-desktop also give me the Ubuntu Desktop and X and everything else.
[20:50] <RFleming> ioria: I meant software-properties-common
[20:50] <ppf> ya
[20:50] <ioria> RFleming, apt-cache depends software-properties-common
[20:52] <mcphail> RFleming: it is highly unlikely there will be a metapackage for your choice of custom install. Just install from mini and add what you want
[20:52] <RFleming> mcphail: that's what I have been doing.  I'm just lazy, wanted to know if there was a meta that might cover most of my bases :)
[20:52] <mcphail> RFleming: does the ubuntu-server package cover what you want?
[20:52] <RFleming> I'm also trying to make it appear similar to the other flavours
[20:53]  * RFleming never thought of that
[20:53] <mcphail> RFleming: that has git etc
[20:53] <RFleming> http://packages.ubuntu.com/yakkety/ubuntu-server
[20:53] <RFleming> Well that's a Picard facepalm if I ever saw one.
[20:53]  * RFleming sighs
[20:54] <mcphail> ha! enjoy
[20:54] <RFleming> There's a couple of things in there that aren't real relevant, but 99% is better than nothing :)
[20:55] <RFleming> mcphail: do you know if it does any branding... IE changing /etc/issue to Ubuntu Server
[20:58] <mcphail> RFleming: I think it just shows Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l like a standard install
[20:58] <RFleming> mcphail: yeah.  It does when installed from the command line.  I'll have to see from the mini.iso installer though.
[20:58] <RFleming> Thanks a lot for the obvious answer!
[20:58]  * RFleming feels like an id10t
[20:59] <soot> does anyone know if I need to edit grub.cfg to boot into an unattended install with kickstarter?
[20:59] <mcphail> :)
[20:59] <neenee> script install buffers.pl buffer_autoclose.py iset.pl go.py colorize_nicks.py
[20:59] <neenee> woops
[21:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[21:09] <neenee> ls
[21:12] <tim__> hey
[21:12] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: are you still around?
[21:12] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: here is to add a USB Controller, https://pubs.vmware.com/fusion-5/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.vmware.fusion.help.doc%2FGUID-935333D1-820B-461A-9BA2-9F5AB335E89D.html
[21:13] <WeiJunLi> I've done exactly that before
[21:13] <Przhevalskoye> ew vmware
[21:13] <Przhevalskoye> i need to use that stuff for school
[21:13] <Przhevalskoye> bless their web client
[21:14] <tim__> hey
[21:14] <Przhevalskoye> dat platvoeten tho
[21:15] <Przhevalskoye> old UPC user?
[21:15] <Przhevalskoye> @platvoeten
[21:15] <platvoeten> Przhevalskoye, yup old UPC user ;)
[21:16] <Przhevalskoye> platvoeten, same here ;) ziggo ruined everything
[21:16] <Przhevalskoye> fellow dutch ubuntu user?
[21:17] <platvoeten> Przhevalskoye, hmm cant complain atm
[21:18] <nimbiotics> Hello everyone. Trying to configure an ubuntu 16.04 server in a digitalocean vps, I changed the ssh port, but am now unable to connect via ssh. The command Im using is [ssh -p <PORT_NUMBER> <USER_NAME>@<HOST_IP_ADDRESS>]; I don't get any error message, the command just never complete. What am I doing wrong? TIA!
[21:18] <Przhevalskoye> platvoeten, i really can, stuff crashed so many times this week like omfg, the support didnt even want to help me after i told them that i didnt like ziggo..
[21:18] <neenee> Does it timeout eventually? Did you update your firewall rule before changing the port / restarting the ssh service?
[21:19] <Roey> hi
[21:19] <Roey> $ sudo systemctl start systemd-resolve
 Failed to start systemd-resolve.service: Unit systemd-resolve.service not found.
[21:20] <Roey> ???? how do I fix this?
[21:20] <platvoeten> Przhevalskoye, ohh thats sad, on the contrary, I managed to cut my subscription by a half for the next three months :P
[21:20] <Przhevalskoye> platvoeten, nice hehe, we did get instead of 120 mbps for which we pay for, 150 hehe
[21:20] <nimbiotics> neenee, the connection does times out. I did not update the firewall rule. Let me work on that. Thanks!
[21:21] <neenee> nimbiotics: pleasure and good luck :)
[21:21] <heathenwolfe> Roey: sudo systemctl start systemd-resolved.service
[21:21] <Przhevalskoye> Roey, systemd.resolve.service not found, aka, you did not install?
[21:22] <Roey> Przhevalskoye: error, cannot parse your response, please rephrase
[21:22] <Roey> Przhevalskoye: I upgraded from 16.04 -> 16.10 two days ago and then I find that it can't resolve names.
[21:22] <neenee> Roey: focus on heathenwolfes' response, you might just have made a typo in your command
[21:22] <Roey> ok
[21:22] <heathenwolfe> Roey: mind the d after resolve
[21:23] <Roey> aye
[21:23] <Roey> so I did it
[21:23] <Roey> and it loaded it
[21:23] <doc|work> Anyone had an issue with computers where you reboot them and when they come back up you don't get any output on the screen, even though remote desktop'ing into them works fine? I'm seeing it on an intel nuc over hdmi.
[21:23] <Roey> then I tried running "ping google.com" and it hangs
[21:23] <Roey> heathenwolfe: ^
[21:23] <Roey> heathenwolfe: "gethostip" similarly hangs.
[21:23] <Roey> neenee: aye thanks.
[21:24] <neenee> what do you mean with 'hangs'?
[21:24] <Roey> meaning that it times out
[21:24] <Roey> it just sits there.
[21:24] <Roey> every.single.upgrade something has to break, argh
[21:25] <neenee> doc|work: try taking out hdmi while it boots and adding it after it's started.. remote desktop is more of a windows protocol though
[21:25] <heathenwolfe> Roey: can you do $ nslookup google.com
[21:25] <Przhevalskoye> or you just check if things work before you update
[21:25] <Roey> things worked well before the update, Przhevalskoye
[21:25] <neenee> Roey: consider sticking with stable releases / use less ppas / try to not create a 'frankenbuntu' :)
[21:26] <Roey> ok, heathenwolfe, that returns immediately
[21:26] <Roey> like
[21:26] <neenee> make backups of config files before you modify things, only modify one or two things at a time - makes reverting easier.
[21:26] <doc|work> neenee: sorry, not "remote desktop" but anydesk :)
[21:26] <Przhevalskoye> Roey, then first check if those things are gonna work in the update you are willing to do..
[21:26] <Roey> that reports the IP immediately, heathenwolfe
[21:26] <doc|work> neenee: this is for a retail setup so we can't have that as the solution :/ I need a permanent fix
[21:26] <Roey> Przhevalskoye: ideally sure, but not on a home PC where I expect an upgrade to work
[21:27] <Przhevalskoye> Roey, but isn't it essential to know that programs are going to work in the next update? homePC or Mainframe?
[21:27] <neenee> doc|work: ok. are there multiple displayed attached or just hdmi? can you get it working by plugging in the hdmi later or does it not work at all? Has it worked in the past / can you recall what has changed?
[21:27] <tarix_m> debian channel is to terrible :)
[21:27] <neenee> *displays
[21:28] <tarix_m> too*
[21:28] <Roey> Przhevalskoye:  let's get back to diagnosing this issue?  Thanks :)
[21:28] <doc|work> neenee: just one display over hdmi. I don't have physical access to the machine right now (it's at its location a couple of thousand miles away).
[21:28] <tarix_m> that u discuss?
[21:28] <doc|work> neenee: it works sometimes on a reboot, but not always, very frustrating.
[21:28] <neenee> ((I doubt anyone has a mainframe here))
[21:29] <Przhevalskoye> neenee, you get the point ;)
[21:29] <neenee> doc|work: hm. okay - is it a current setup / I assume running ubuntu, a recent release?
[21:29] <doc|work> neenee: current, using xubuntu
[21:29] <heathenwolfe> Roey: well then it's not dns. Hanging to me sounds like you're hitting a firewall of something. I only get hangs atm when the destination or somewhere in between is dropping packets
[21:29] <doc|work> neenee: #xubuntu suggsted I ask here
[21:29] <Roey> heathenwolfe: ahhhh
[21:29] <Roey> heathenwolfe: lemme turn off my firewall.
[21:30] <heathenwolfe> Roey: did you drop outbound connections on the fw?
[21:30] <neenee> doc|work: oh that's fine, I don't mind, the base is the same.
[21:30]  * doc|work nods
[21:32] <neenee> doc|work: does xrandr show you the information of the connected display?
[21:32] <neenee> doc|work: should show you what kind of a screen / resolution is currently connected / active
[21:32] <doc|work> neenee: yes, oddly though it has at times said it's connected to a screen while the display utility in xubuntu shows it as disconnected
[21:33] <neenee> is the display off consistently / always? or does it periodically turn on?
[21:34] <doc|work> neenee: it stays off once that shows as far as I'm aware, but sometimes boots up fine
[21:34] <neenee> can't be a powersave feature as it should show something during boot at least, unless you have an incorrect/unsupported framebuffer setting
[21:34] <doc|work> on Friday it did disconnect during the day, no idea why
[21:34] <doc|work> but just once
[21:35] <doc|work> neenee: not sure about booting
[21:35] <neenee> have you tried a second screen / alternative cable?
[21:35] <doc|work> neenee: that's the plan, switching to DP
[21:35] <neenee> the cable would be easiest to have switched, do you have any hands on site?
[21:35] <doc|work> but still want to figure out a way to debug
[21:35] <doc|work> neenee: working on that
[21:35] <neenee> true, otherwise you may run into the same issue without an alternative to switch to
[21:35] <doc|work> right now I'm just kind of stuck at xrandr and no other clue how to debug
[21:36] <neenee> hm
[21:36] <Ben64> doc|work: well what does xrandr say
[21:37] <neenee> what kind of graphics driver / chip? custom xorg.conf or none/auto?
[21:37] <neenee> you could pastebin a log indeed
[21:37] <neenee> pasting here would be a bit much
[21:37] <neenee> (do people still use pastebin?)
[21:38] <doc|work> Ben64: it's all working right now and I don't want to go breaking it, but the general gist is xrandr shows the screen as correct as far as I can tell and connected. However if I look at xubuntu's display utility it sometimes (not always) shows it as connected even if it's not.
[21:38] <doc|work> neenee: intel iris 540 in an intel nuc. No custom.xorg by us. Just the standard setup.
[21:39] <neenee> perhaps xubuntus display utility tries to force settings which are incompatible - I am not familiar with the specific tool however
[21:39] <neenee> ok
[21:39] <doc|work> neenee: even then, xrandr is showing it as connected. The xubuntu utility is usually but not always more accurate.
[21:40] <zuiss1> hi, if a computer has windows on it and i created space for ubuntu, how would i choose to have ubuntu installed with encryption? i only see an option to either use the whole disk and encrypt, or a "manual" option if i just want to encrypt in the free space i created
[21:40] <doc|work> sorry, I probably could have phrased that better earlier
[21:40] <zuiss1> but i'm too novice to know how to do it manually
[21:40] <neenee> doc|work: the display goes blank/black at which time xrandr still shows connected?
[21:41] <doc|work> neenee: right
[21:43] <neenee> hm. you could try to re-enable the screen with xrandr / perhaps with a cron job every x minutes - doesn't solve the underlying issue though
[21:44] <neenee> eg. xrandr --addmode HDMI1 1920x1080 / xrandr --output HDMI --mode 1920x1080
[21:44] <doc|work> yeah, that could be a fallback actually
[21:44] <doc|work> is a bit odd all the same!
[21:44] <neenee> indeed
[21:45] <neenee> well, I have to be off for now, busy work day tomorrow again. Good luck and cya around perhaps, I will be around as well, can run this in the background.
[21:45] <doc|work> neenee: great, thanks. Will see if it happens again in the morning
[21:49] <rist> hello. i'd like to make a backup partition in which i plan to place some data that i'll copy onto the distro that i'll install through the liveusb. how can i do this
[21:51] <nilson> was geht
[21:53] <s7rawm4n> n> Hey. I have a fairly fresh install of ubuntu server 16.04.1, and I've been having major issues with connecting to the server over the intranet. Come to find out, my bios is reporting different MAC address for my ethernet card than my operating system. Anyone reason why this would be?
[21:54] <ppf> rist: do precisely that then
[21:54] <rist> ppf, how is the question
[21:55] <rist> how can i see how much space i can allow for the partition
[21:56] <n4n0`> s7rawm4n: BIOS is detecting an integrated adapter's MAC instead of your ethernet card's?
[21:58] <s7rawm4n> possibly, but unlikely, they are of the same manufacturer and only off in the last 2 bits, as in xx:xx:xx:D1:EB:10 vs ...:D1:EB:0F
[22:01] <s7rawm4n> sorry off by the last byte. not 2 bits
[22:02] <saju_m> are you guys keeping snapshot/backup of old version of  repo trusty-updates,  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates
[22:02] <saju_m> if yes, please share the link
[22:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !trusty
[22:03] <k1l> saju_m: not really. what is the issue?
[22:03] <Pici> saju_m: Trusty is still supported, its repos are still live and won't be taken down for another 2 years
[22:05] <inra> hello everyone
[22:05] <inra> testing, can you see my text?
[22:05] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: sorry was AFK
[22:05] <k1l> inra: yes
[22:05] <inra> k1l, thank you :)
[22:05] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: I'm around
[22:05] <FrNcS_Fr> Ubuntu is the shittest gnu/linux distro, I wonder why so much people use it O.o
[22:05] <WeiJunLi> Check what I've done
[22:05] <WeiJunLi> but still the same though
[22:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FrNcS_Fr, its ok
[22:06] <FrNcS_Fr> I know
[22:06] <flex> Hello Community! I would like to write a script that opens specific windows (my developement envireonment including a text editor, the webbrowser on a certain URL and a console) and resize them/move them to the specified position. Is that possible and are there any guids that might help me figuring out how to accomplish that?
[22:06] <DolphinDream> howdy
[22:06] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: good job on finding the vendors documentation
[22:06] <FrNcS_Fr> Well, not the shittest, but not the besy
[22:07] <FrNcS_Fr> Amazon life :P
[22:07] <inra> I just ran an action that moved my home folder to my desktop by mistake. what can I do now? can I move everything back via another system?
[22:07] <k1l> FrNcS_Fr: please keep this channel clear for technical ubuntu support. thanks
[22:07] <FrNcS_Fr> k1l: amazon life?
[22:07] <inra> that's so bizarre. normally I should have gotten a message that said it was not possible, no?
[22:07] <flex> FrNcS_Fr: Ubuntu is the best argument when you talk to people who say "but windows is much simpler". Ubuntu is the best starting distro (assuming you are not a tech guy or nerdy by nature)
[22:08] <inra> desktop is a subfolder of home folder
[22:08] <flex> And yeah I know this was rethorical....however.
[22:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> FrNcS_Fr, but there an be better one depending on user, needs, computer etc. also going by history there has always been one most popular distro that used to be Mandriva.
[22:08] <DolphinDream> what's the recommended partitioning for a 16.04 installation? I have 2 HDDs and want to leave the home on the first HDD and install a fresh Ubuntu 16.04 on other HDD. Do I need a swap / system partitions and use the first HDD as the home ?
[22:08] <FrNcS_Fr> Flex: arch is better
[22:08] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: yea, that's what you was saying to do
[22:08] <FrNcS_Fr> SebthreeBQM10HD: no
[22:08] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: have you tried to remove the controller from the guest (powered off of course), exit fusion, reboot host, launch fusion, confirm guest still has controller configured prior to powering it on, determine if newly added controller appears in guest?
[22:08] <FrNcS_Fr> Arch life!
[22:09] <flex> FrNcS_Fr I am using arch on my desktop PC..however. "Better" is relative.. Noone without any experience in programming / UNIX based systems will be able to even install arch, despite of configuring GPU and so forth..
[22:10] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: wait i typo'd that
[22:10] <k1l> flex: SebthreeBQM10HD please dont feed the trolls. this channels focus is technical support.
[22:10] <FrNcS_Fr> flex: I CANNNN
[22:10] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: you said to add a usb controller
[22:10] <k1l> FrNcS_Fr: stop that.
[22:10] <inra> can you help me please?
[22:10] <flex> I would like to write a script that opens specific programs (my developement envireonment including a text editor, the webbrowser on a certain URL and a console) and resize them/move them to the specified position. Is that possible and are there any guids that might help me figuring out how to accomplish that?
[22:11] <FrNcS_Fr> k1l: you like biscuits with milk?
[22:11] <saju_m> why can't we keep multiple versions of package in repo ?
[22:11] <flex> k1l: I got distracted.. My apologies
[22:12] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: yes, i said to add a controller after ubuntu showed no signs of having any usb controller at all,
[22:12] <ppf> saju_m: we do
[22:13] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: im lost
[22:13] <saju_m> ppf, How ?
[22:13] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: lol...let's just see if the contoller you added is detected
[22:13] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: we'll start with that.
[22:13] <saju_m> i could not find curl-7.35.0-1ubuntu2.5 in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/curl/
[22:13] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: because i saw the link from vmware and i believe you have now added a usb controller
[22:14] <saju_m> curl-7.35.0-1ubuntu2.5 was there in that repo
[22:14] <saju_m> now its not there
[22:14] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: so open terminal>
[22:14] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: so open terminal> dmesg|grep Controller|nc termbin.com 9999
[22:14] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: or
[22:14] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: so open terminal> dmesg|grep Controller|pastebinit
[22:14] <k1l> saju_m: can you show the output of "apt-cache curl" and say why you want that specific version?
[22:15] <ppf> you can install it: apt intsall curl=curl-7.35.0-1ubuntu2.5
[22:15] <k1l> saju_m: put the output into paste.ubuntu.com please and show the url here
[22:15] <saju_m> ok
[22:15] <ppf> that being said, i'm not entirely sure that really is a solution to the problem you're having
[22:15] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: share the url/link here
[22:15] <WeiJunLi> 'You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.' tatertots
[22:16] <WeiJunLi> it doesnt create any url cuz it's an empty doc tatertots
[22:16] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: .....ok hold on let me see if i can dig up the first record you posted hours ago
[22:16] <WeiJunLi> my dmesg doesnt change anything i guess, isnt the first time
[22:17] <WeiJunLi> perhaps go to /var/log and do grep -ir 'Controller'|pastebinit
[22:17] <k1l> tatertots: grep is case sensitive. either be sure its capital Controller or use -i
[22:17] <WeiJunLi> there may contain more info, right
[22:17] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: since there are more files
[22:17] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: dang i'm good...found your first dmesg   http://paste.ubuntu.com/23811960/
[22:18] <saju_m> k1l, https://paste.ubuntu.com/23812960/
[22:18] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: take a look at this one http://paste.ubuntu.com/23812958/
[22:19] <WeiJunLi> I went to /var/log and did grep -ir 'Controller'
[22:19] <flex> Is bash able to resize/move windows after startup (including something like WaitForProgramHasLoaded() )?
[22:19] <k1l> saju_m: sorry, i meant "apt-cache policy curl"
[22:19] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: so see in your first dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/23811960/   grep for the Controller returned this...meaning at minimum if there has been "no change" at all...you would be showing me this same info a second time.....but according to you it has changed and even less info or NOTHING at all is down in dmesg now...which doesn't add up to me if this is your previous dmesg prior to adding the controller in fusion
[22:19] <saju_m> k1l, https://paste.ubuntu.com/23812969/
[22:20] <k1l> saju_m: any reason you want that specific version?
[22:21] <saju_m> k1l, curl i given for example
[22:21] <SpindizZzy> hello world :)
[22:21] <k1l> saju_m: because there are a lot of security fixes: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/c/curl/curl_7.35.0-1ubuntu2.10/changelog   i would not recommend running that outdated version
[22:21] <SpindizZzy> openVPN-trouble:
[22:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> SpindizZzy, HI
[22:21] <SpindizZzy>  <warn> /sys/devices/virtual/net/tun0: couldn't determine device driver; ignoring...
[22:21] <tatertots> WeiJunLi> tatertots: take a look at this one http://paste.ubuntu.com/23812958/   "what command produced these finding"....always communicate that....since i am always doing that toward you ..reciprocate
[22:22] <inra> I found this command but I'd like to avoid messing things up even worse, can you help me know if it's the correct one please: 'sudo mv /sourcepath/ /targetpath/
[22:22] <inra> ?
[22:22] <SpindizZzy> in ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[22:22] <SpindizZzy> please help :)
[22:22] <WeiJunLi> tatertots: grep -ir 'Controller'|pastebinit
[22:23] <WeiJunLi> inside /var/log dir
[22:23] <saju_m> k1l, can we trust all updated packages ?
[22:23] <k1l> saju_m: yes. i dont see why not? they do get automated testings before they are put into the repos.
[22:23] <saju_m> k1l, can we blindly upgrade our system to whatever there in upstream repo ?
[22:24] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: so here my problem with this and where it's going...i saw your link...i accept that, now i want another link from you ...this one
[22:24] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: so open terminal> dmesg|pastebinit
[22:24] <k1l> saju_m: ubuntu got a stable release system. so once the ubuntu version is released the version of programs will not be updated, but there will be security and heavy bugfix patches backported.
[22:25] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: share url/link here
[22:25] <inra> why is there noone to help
[22:26] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: unless all is working now...then of course..great job
[22:26] <WeiJunLi> just a sec
[22:26] <elias_a> inra: I'm here.
[22:26] <saju_m> k1l, thanks, i know that
[22:26] <tatertots> WeiJunLi: but if it still no workie....i want that full dmesg
[22:26] <elias_a> inra: What are you trying to achieve?
[22:27] <emanuel> nabend
[22:27] <saju_m> k1l, but little bit afraid to upgrade if system has other softwares running
[22:27] <emanuel> spricht jemand deutsch hier
[22:28] <k1l> emanuel: in #ubuntu-de ist der deutsche kanal
[22:28] <inra> elias_a, thank you! I copied my home folder to my desktop by mistake. everything on my desktop has disappeared and file manager is not clickable right now. I checked the folders via terminal (via F1), and saw that I have the following directory tree now: 'home/Desktop/home/Desktop' and only under the last desktop I see my desktop elements
[22:28] <emanuel> thx
[22:29] <inra> I am not sure if simply applying mv command would help. and even there, I am not sure which folder to move where would be correct
[22:29] <bencc> nginx package on ubuntu 16.04 is 1.10. Why apt-get source nginx gives me 1.9.15?
[22:29] <k1l> bencc: can you show the output of "apt-cache policy nginx" on paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here?
[22:30] <elias_a> inra: Are we talking about Ubuntu installation here?
[22:30] <inra> elias_a, no, but an ubuntu derivate
[22:30] <inra> based on 14.04., I guess
[22:31] <elias_a> inra: I'd just move the directory structure and reboot.
[22:31] <bencc> k1l:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/23813031/
[22:31] <inra> elias_a, but which one to move where
[22:31] <inra> the second home folder to original home?
[22:32] <k1l> benok, do you have the trusty-updates  and trusty-security repos enabled for sourcpackages?
[22:32] <bencc> k1l: I've added xenial-updates and now it's fine
[22:32] <bencc> k1l: thanks
[22:32] <Jakethepython>     i am having trouble installing samba
[22:32] <k1l> bencc: uh right, xenial, not trusty :X
[22:33] <Jakethepython> it is saying ob for smbd.service failed because the control process exited with error code.
[22:33] <elias_a> inra: Let's say "home" is your home directory. Now it seems that you've moved it to /home/user/desktop. Is this correct?
[22:33] <inra> elias_a, yes
[22:34] <inra> it is like /home/user/Desktop/home/user/Desktop now
[22:34] <elias_a> inra: So move the /home/user/Desktop/user to /home/user.
[22:35] <inra> so would i need to cd into Desktop first (because the home folder is there), and then run '~/Desktop$ sudo mv /home/user ~/' like this?
[22:36] <inra> elias_a, so would i need to cd into Desktop first (because the home folder is there), and then run '~/Desktop$ sudo mv /home/user ~/' like this?
[22:37] <genii> /home/user and ~/ are the same thing
[22:37] <inra> genii, thank you, so it's ok the way I posted the command, I guess
[22:38] <elias_a> inra: You're on right track.
[22:39] <Jakethepython> Hello Room could someone help me with my Samba Install error?
[22:40] <k1l> Jakethepython: put the full error on paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here
[22:40] <inra> elias_a, thank you, running it now
[22:40] <genii> The prudent thing to do would be to be in /home/user/Desktop    and then mv user/* /home/user   ( no sudo should be required)   and then rmdir user   and then cd ( with no argument) to return to /home/user
[22:43] <jeanjack> I can't get what's wrong with my command : wget -r -A rss $url
[22:43] <inra> it turned to a horrible mess of Desktops and home folders at irrelevant places
[22:43] <Jakethepython> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23813088/
[22:43] <inra> at least the files are still there
[22:43] <jeanjack> it don't download anything
[22:44] <jeanjack> if I use just the -r options, i get my rss file
[22:44] <Bray90820> So I can't seem to login to ssh as root but I can login to su and it was to my understanding that they were the same password
[22:44] <Bray90820> What I would actually like is to login to ssh root without a password
[22:44] <inra> to give an idea, it looks now like this: /home/user/Desktop/Desktop/home/user/Desktop
[22:45] <k1l> Jakethepython: that doesnt show what the issue is. please show the output of "systemctl status smbd.service" too
[22:45] <zo> Anyone willing to help a total idiot? :) I can't see my wireless connection. Thanks in advance
[22:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !WIRELESS
[22:45] <jeanjack> Bray90820: you know what is an RSA key ?
[22:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo that can be a bit or more difficult to configure, depending on which one you got
[22:47] <Jakethepython> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23813105/
[22:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo look in additinal drivers,  search  for that in the interface unity by default or whaever your on,  might have something waiting to go there
[22:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo would need to be etherneted to download though.
[22:48] <zo> Hey Sebthree, can you give me a terminal command or something else to start with? Thanks
[22:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo yeah lspci
[22:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> that hsould say what wireless amoungst other things
[22:49] <zo> ok, we're a go... what am i looking for?
[22:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo the mentiol of your wireless
[22:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> cad
[22:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> card adapater
[22:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> your wireless
[22:49] <n4n0`> oh boy
[22:50] <zo> I have network controller and ethernet controller... any od that it? Sorry, but as I said, I am a total idiot :P
[22:50] <k1l> Jakethepython: hmm. i dont see a reason. maybe try a "sudo apt purge samba" and try to install it again afterwards
[22:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo yeah should be both, pastebin the terminal output and give me the link
[22:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !pastebin
[22:51] <zo> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)
[22:51] <zo> 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 07)
[22:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo probably similar to mine, how new is the computer?
[22:52] <Jakethepython> Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-old' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[22:52] <Jakethepython>  what does this mean?
[22:52] <zo> Ahm, I think less than a year
[22:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Jakethepython,  some old file to do with apt upgrades, should be ok
[22:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> it seems
[22:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> to first bit
[22:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo yeah seemed new
[22:53] <Jakethepython> How would i get rid of it?
[22:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo  on an UBuntu tablet now, so  what wiress I have here is ireelivent for your issue, but on the lap top I think I may have a similar one
[22:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> as you
[22:53] <Herbalist> it means it's not happy about the extension ucf-old
[22:53] <zo> how do I make him happy again? chocolate? :)
[22:54] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo now search unity the default interface for additional drivers
[22:54] <Herbalist> try change it to .ucf and remove i
[22:54] <Herbalist> it
[22:54] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Jakethepython,  I think you can ignore  that error messange be ok, when it come up
[22:54] <Jakethepython> OK
[22:54] <Jakethepython> The samba purge reinstall gave the same error message
[22:55] <inra> how can I power off a disk from the terminal? I dont mean unmount, it is already unmounted, but powering off
[22:59] <zo> Sebthree, sorry had a low bat situation... Ahm, where do I go for that :) Sorry for stupid questions :)
[23:00] <zo> Hey Sebthree... sorry for super stupid questions :) where do I go for that? :)
[23:00] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo no that's ok, and your brand new to Ubuntu then ?
[23:01] <Amm0n> inra, if you remove the device in the filemanager it should power down amoung other operations.
[23:01] <zo> Kind of, and not top great around to computers to begin with :)
[23:01] <zo> *too
[23:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo by default since the april 2011 release it comes with the unity interface
[23:01] <SebthreeBQM10HD> the menu down the left
[23:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> the stuff on the top right etc
[23:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yes unity
[23:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !unity
[23:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo in unity you can search for additional drivers
[23:02] <n4n0`> Poor SebthreeBQM10HD
[23:02] <SebthreeBQM10HD> n4n0`, how so ?
[23:02] <n4n0`> So much to answer
[23:02]  * n4n0` jumps in a pit of lava.
[23:03] <Amm0n> inra, or from commandline use: usdisksctl power-off -b /dev/sdx
[23:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> n4n0`, h eh that's ok, but newbies can be fun to help
[23:03] <Amm0n> inra, sorry typo it's udisksctl
[23:03] <SebthreeBQM10HD> n4n0`, a pit of lava in the old croc games ok :D
[23:04] <zo> Ok, so I'm at the additional drivers place? Did I miss?
[23:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo on the top left  the bar down the left,, the very top, should be  an ubuntu logo, click on that,  get the search up an  search for addiontal drivers and open that
[23:04] <inra> Amm0n, I've just found this command with udisks : 'udisks --unmount /dev/sdb1 && udisks --detach /dev/sdb'..though I couldnt be sure if it applies to my case as I dont have any mounted sdb1 partition
[23:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo if lucky there is a wireless driver waiting to go,  well once ethernet connected as well so can actsually download it
[23:05] <inra> maybe I should use just the detach part of it?
[23:06] <inra> Amm0n, yes, it worked with udisks --detach command above
[23:06] <inra> Amm0n, thank you for the command you recommended, I noted it!
[23:06] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo  I guess you just installed,  and didn't test wireless on live dvd/usb  but thats ok
[23:07] <zo> ok, no ubuntu logo, just about this computer, ubuntu help, system settings, lock and other logging options
[23:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo there is
[23:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> or should be
[23:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo the very top of the bar I think
[23:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> first icon
[23:08] <zo> yes there is... I looked in the wrong place :)
[23:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> click that
[23:08] <zo> told you, total idiot :)
[23:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> then search
[23:08] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo no not at alll
[23:09] <Amm0n> inra, you could check "lsblk" what's relevant for your device
[23:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo  your using this for some reason, most peole wont go near Linux
[23:09] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo since they hardly know computers etc
[23:09]  * SebthreeBQM10HD is meant to be deliving a talk this Thursday to such people about something hmm
[23:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo  so did a wireless driver come up in additional drivers :) ?
[23:11] <Amm0n> inra, you should use "sync" too, if it's a removal device, to write all data from cache before you use the udisks command
[23:11] <st3fann> hey, Im looking to delete the screen temp file /dev/pts/1, but for some reason it does not let me.. I am attempting to do it as root so I dont know why this would be happening
[23:12] <st3fann> and this is the output for lsattr -d lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on .
[23:13] <zo> Ok, so I'm finally there.. I have a broadcom wireless thingie... it says that it is using an alternative driver and it is marked as using broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driver source from bcmwl-kernel-source (proprietary)
[23:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo ok good
[23:13] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo  you need to use the propritary driver
[23:13] <zo> yaaaaay :)
[23:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> whih is what tht is
[23:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> you have to enable it, but lso download it
[23:14] <zo> ok, so I do that? :)
[23:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> so yeah got a ethernet cable to get it online for that ?
[23:14] <zo> yup
[23:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yep connect that
[23:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> download intall it enable it
[23:14] <SebthreeBQM10HD> get on your wireless, an should be ok
[23:15] <zuiss1> does "guided - use entire disk and set up encrypted lvm" in the ubuntu installer mean use it will wipe out the windows install, or does it mean it will use the partition only,
[23:15] <st3fann> wipe everything zuiss1
[23:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and  your wireless should have a password and some kind of encryption, not this open wireless stuff zo
[23:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zuiss1, the default automatic partiting does not seem to do encryption or lvm
[23:16] <inra> Amm0n, thank you, added to my notes! :)
[23:16] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and it would use some free space from windows,  or just pariton space i think
[23:16] <st3fann> anyone? Ive done some reading and it looks like the file is a symlink, I really don't know what to do with it, and I cannot run screen without removing the file :/
[23:16] <zuiss1> so what should i do if i want encryption, but am on a dual boot system where i don't want to wipe out windows?
[23:16] <zuiss1> the installer only has a use full disk option for encryption
[23:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zuiss1, I am not sure if I hve used automatic in ubunu actsaully, but it seems you should do a  custom install and be more in control yourself
[23:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zuiss1, you can encrypt home regardless I think
[23:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> but sure / won't be I guess
[23:17] <zuiss1> SebthreeBQM10HD: do you know how to set up encryption if i select "manual"
[23:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zuiss1, advanced partining optons maybe ?
[23:18] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo  so you get it online on the wireless?
[23:18] <zo> Seb, can you make it a bit easier for me? A terminal code or link please?
[23:18] <inra> returning to my original problem, i managed to bring all folders back under my original home folder, but now the other home folder that I copied under desktop is still there, and has no content. could it be why I still cannot click on the file manager?
[23:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo no additional drivers is where you go to enable the driver
[23:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and tht's the easy way
[23:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo may b some command way, but thats not   going to be as easy
[23:19] <inra> or cannot open any most applications?
[23:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo ethernet conect it
[23:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo then enable download actiavte the driver whatever in addiontal drivers, put password in so it can do that, and that should do it
[23:22] <Amm0n> inra, create a new user and login, then diff the folderstucture/permissions, or just use the new user and copy your files
[23:23] <zo> ok, so I think I'm a bit lost... I only have a do not use this device option and can't see any way to activate it beside doing the "turn on and off" thing :P
[23:23] <zo> maybe leave it for someone else to do it live?
[23:24] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo no show me a screenshot of additional drivers?
[23:24] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !screenshot
[23:24] <zo> ok, just a sec
[23:25] <zo> ok, how do I get them to you? upload somewhere and give you a link?
[23:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> yeah
[23:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !screenshot
[23:28] <Amm0n> inra, did you use sudo with the mv?
[23:28] <zuiss1> so i created a 500 MB /boot partition, and then a large partition which i selected "physical volume for encryption" so now i have these 2 partitions. but the installer won't let me click "install" to proceed
[23:28] <zuiss1> anyone know what i need to do
[23:28] <zo> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=n4zcdk&s=9
[23:28] <zo> here it is
[23:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo hmm
[23:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo looks diffenret to mine
[23:30] <zo> hmmm I agree :)
[23:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> you got  certain other things there to such as inel
[23:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> intel
[23:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> I only get like two things coming up on mine in that one of which is wirelss
[23:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> but that's all ok
[23:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo just make sure that its using the broadcom
[23:31] <Jakethepython> Does anyone have any suggestions as to installing samba it keeps erroring I can't seem to get it to install even after  a purge
[23:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo  or sems to be using it
[23:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> then  on the top right
[23:31] <zo> well it does say that it is using it :)
[23:31] <zo> ok
[23:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> should get a icon for wireless
[23:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> see if you can enable it then
[23:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo however
[23:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo  however you still need to thernet probbly
[23:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> it won't download anything without so
[23:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> no Internet connection no downloads
[23:32] <zo> ok, nothing on the enabling front
[23:32] <zo> I am sorry to say that I am to hopeless and someone else will have to deal with it for me
[23:33] <lucas_ai> LOL pytz is giving me a weird timezone for Los_Angeles. Any ideas why? 2017-01-17T12:30:00-07:53
[23:33] <zo> thank anyway and thank you for your time <3
[23:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo no
[23:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> zo no don't give up yet
[23:33] <zo> have to, it's after midnight where I am and the bed is calling :)
[23:34] <zo> appreciate it a lot in any case
[23:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> z0 who is someone else
[23:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and where you from ?
[23:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and yes addiontal drivers is where you going to have to do something I expet
[23:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and probably download something via the ethernet able
[23:35] <zo> yeah, will give it another go tomorrow, and then make someone else do it... promise :)
[23:35] <zo> k.. gotta go now
[23:35] <zo> thanks and bye
[23:41] <inra> working to tackle the problem that I posted about my home folder, I have just moved hidden files back there, except that two of them were refused to be moved, saying that 'directory is not empty'..I found a few posts about this case, but cannot be sure how to use the respective commands..can you help me move these files please?
[23:42] <TEMPLAR> hi
[23:45] <mozart92> Hey everyone :) I have a technical question, is this a good place?
[23:46] <Vilegent> mozart92, ask
[23:46] <k1l> mozart92: this is the proper place for technical ubuntu questions
[23:47] <inra> solved!
[23:47] <inra> home folder is back
[23:47] <mozart92> @Viligent Premise: I use a vpn (with openvpn-networkmanager) I'd like to create an ssl tunnel in order to use the vpn only with the web browser, in order to let the pc and its processes (like steam) use all my bandwith with the normal ethernet connection. Is this possible?
[23:48] <stanford_AI> I'm looking for the most badass linux/robotics programmer. To build an indoor drone with deep learning. Do you know a good one here?
[23:49] <inra> all of a sudden it was a good command line exercise
[23:50] <TEMPLAR> hahaha
[23:51] <TEMPLAR> CP+
[23:51] <TEMPLAR> good bye
[23:52] <mozart92> Viligent Basically I want to apply my vpn only to the browser.
[23:53] <Vilegent> well possible most likely easy no
[23:54] <k1l> mozart92: maybe there are browser addons that direct the browser traffic into the vpn
[23:54] <Vilegent> becaause steam traffic is still web traffic
[23:59] <mozart92> k1l I only found some offered by vpn providers, furthermore my vpn only supports linux through openvpn.