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| willcooke | morning all | 09:00 |
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| Laney | ahoy | 09:02 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke Laney | 09:02 |
| willcooke | hey seb128 Laney | 09:02 |
| seb128 | Laney, what did you change in your routine? you are consistently one or two minutes earlier on IRC this year :-) | 09:03 |
| Laney | hi seb128 and willcooke | 09:04 |
| Laney | seb128: errrrrrrrrrrrrrr nothing | 09:05 |
| Laney | you should do an analysis | 09:05 |
| seb128 | lol | 09:05 |
| flexiondotorg | Morning desktopers | 09:07 |
| seb128 | hey flexiondotorg | 09:07 |
| didrocks | hey flexiondotorg, Laney, willcooke! | 09:08 |
| didrocks | "Laney analytics, a new product by seb128" | 09:08 |
| didrocks | © | 09:08 |
| chrisccoulson | hi desktop team | 09:15 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 09:15 |
| Laney | https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/17/donald-trump-mistakes-ivanka-from-brighton-for-his-daughter | 09:18 |
| Laney | hey chrisccoulson davmor2 and didrocks! | 09:18 |
| seb128 | for once space :-) | 09:20 |
| davmor2 | didrocks: that's just a silly ideal you don't want Laney being analytical you'd never shut him up or get any work done ;) | 09:24 |
| didrocks | ahah | 09:26 |
| willcooke | off to London, bbl | 10:12 |
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| desrt | word up peeps | 14:05 |
| seb128 | hey desrt, how are you? | 14:10 |
| desrt | pretty good | 14:11 |
| desrt | need coffee :p | 14:12 |
| desrt | how is your tuesday? | 14:12 |
| seb128 | quite good so far, it's nice and sunny here, I'm a bit tired though ... might need some more coffee in a bit :-) | 14:15 |
| desrt | we have only lots of fog. | 14:18 |
| desrt | beh | 14:18 |
| seb128 | :-/ | 14:18 |
| seb128 | hum, seems like the pounds is getting some love after the brexit speech from today | 14:19 |
| desrt | what was in the speech? | 14:20 |
| seb128 | want to leave the single market/restrict migration from EU workers/no commitment to give the current expats a right to stay in the U.K/not bound to the european court of justive | 14:23 |
| desrt | sounds like a reasonably full Brexit | 14:26 |
| seb128 | yeah :-/ | 14:27 |
| desrt | so why is the pound getting love? | 14:27 |
| desrt | i thought prevailing wisdom is that full brexit would kill the UK's economy | 14:27 |
| desrt | or is it a case of uncertainty being the worst thing? | 14:27 |
| xclaesse | they must leave shengen first!!! https://twitter.com/RogerHelmerMEP/status/820745142520922115 (ahahahahahhhh) | 14:28 |
| desrt | schengen has been such a disaster for the uk! | 14:29 |
| desrt | forcing them to have the same rectangular passport stamps as everyone else! | 14:29 |
| desrt | . o O ( uh.. wait... ) | 14:29 |
| desrt | turns out "freedom of movement" has more than one meaning within the EU :p | 14:30 |
| seb128 | desrt, yeah, I don't understand how markets react ... | 14:30 |
| desrt | it's sunny: the market for rain jackets is going to dive! SELL! → recession | 14:30 |
| desrt | it's rainy: the market for solar panels is going to dive! SELL! → recession | 14:31 |
| desrt | the sun doesn't rise in the morning: what's going on ?!? SELL! → recession | 14:31 |
| seb128 | desrt, also she stated that they are going to use their freedom to "set a competitive tax rate” if needed | 14:31 |
| desrt | as in, raise or lower? | 14:31 |
| xclaesse | market is under perfusion of free money like a junky is on coke for so long, they don't have reasonable reactions | 14:31 |
| seb128 | desrt, lower | 14:32 |
| seb128 | just cut on taxes so business move there | 14:32 |
| seb128 | if I understood that correctly | 14:32 |
| desrt | great! | 14:32 |
| * desrt ♥ race to bottom | 14:33 | |
| seb128 | "great" indeed | 14:33 |
| seb128 | :-/ | 14:33 |
| desrt | woh.. X added (compose)<3 as unicode heart | 14:33 |
| seb128 | lol | 14:33 |
| desrt | (buy! → pound goes up) | 14:40 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, I'm so embarrassed to share the same nationality as roger helmer | 14:47 |
| desrt | you should never be ashamed because you were randomly assigned the same nationality as an idiot | 14:48 |
| desrt | you should rather be ashamed that you were part of a group that voted to put him in power | 14:49 |
| andyrock | hey guys | 14:53 |
| desrt | morning! | 14:53 |
| willcooke | sorry for late notice, my first meeting over ran a lot, so knock on effect I'm in another meeting now | 15:23 |
| willcooke | so seb128 is going to chair the weekly meeting | 15:23 |
| willcooke | when he gets back on line | 15:24 |
| seb128 | hey | 15:30 |
| seb128 | sorry moved placed and just managed to reconnect to IRC | 15:30 |
| FJKong | hi | 15:30 |
| * qengho considers using his status update to complain about keybinding or general session settings being all broken on his machine again. | 15:30 | |
| seb128 | I'm going to lead the meeting this week since will_cooke busy in London | 15:30 |
| seb128 | #startmeeting | 15:30 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Jan 17 15:30:57 2017 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:30 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 15:30 |
| seb128 | Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt, dgadomski, fjkong (out), flexiondotorg (other meeting), happyaron (out, hikiko, laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter (out), trevinho, robert_ancell (out) | 15:31 |
| flexiondotorg | o/ | 15:31 |
| andyrock | o/ | 15:31 |
| * Sweet5hark reporting | 15:31 | |
| seb128 | shrug, was editing the outs and comments and hit enter | 15:31 |
| Sweet5hark | in | 15:31 |
| seb128 | don't pay attention about those status it's a copy from previous week :p | 15:32 |
| * FJKong feel sleepy | 15:32 | |
| seb128 | hope everybody is doing fine! | 15:32 |
| hikiko | hello | 15:32 |
| seb128 | let's get started | 15:32 |
| seb128 | #topic andyrock | 15:32 |
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| seb128 | andyrock, hey | 15:32 |
| andyrock | hey i've been working on unity8 to resgister the test failures, I already have a branch but I'm trying to make the recording better | 15:33 |
| andyrock | some help debugging compiz/unity issues | 15:33 |
| andyrock | eow | 15:33 |
| seb128 | thanks andyrock | 15:34 |
| seb128 | #topic attente | 15:34 |
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| seb128 | attente, hey | 15:34 |
| attente | hey seb128 | 15:34 |
| attente | can you come back to me after? | 15:34 |
| seb128 | sure | 15:34 |
| seb128 | #topic desrt | 15:34 |
| seb128 | desrt, hey | 15:34 |
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| seb128 | no desrt? | 15:36 |
| seb128 | #topid dgadomski | 15:36 |
| seb128 | dgadomski, hey | 15:36 |
| dgadomski | hey | 15:36 |
| dgadomski | * submitted a patch to Debian as a possible fix to bug #1550983 | 15:36 |
| ubot5 | bug 1550983 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "Fails to start with "Couldn't open libGL.so.1" (missing dependency?)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1550983 | 15:36 |
| dgadomski | eof | 15:36 |
| seb128 | thanks dgadomski | 15:37 |
| dgadomski | thanks | 15:37 |
| seb128 | #topic FJKong | 15:37 |
| seb128 | hey FJKong | 15:37 |
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| FJKong | hi | 15:37 |
| FJKong | #1638345 avahi-daemon crashes multiple times an hour | 15:37 |
| FJKong | discuss this bug with upstream developer, wait for update of fixing. | 15:37 |
| FJKong | #1640317 FTBFS in zesty | 15:37 |
| FJKong | more information requested | 15:37 |
| FJKong | #850675 [wsjtx] Too old version, does not have WSPR, | 15:37 |
| FJKong | packaging and upgrade to upstream version | 15:37 |
| FJKong | #1657069 Fcitx ram leak | 15:37 |
| FJKong | give a quick response reply. | 15:37 |
| FJKong | eof | 15:37 |
| seb128 | FJKong, I tried to ping a few people and added some comments on the avahi bug, let's see how that works out | 15:38 |
| seb128 | thanks FJKong | 15:38 |
| seb128 | #topic flexiondotorg | 15:38 |
| seb128 | flexiondotorg, hey | 15:38 |
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| flexiondotorg | Hi | 15:39 |
| flexiondotorg | Time appropriate greetings! | 15:39 |
| flexiondotorg | · Researched this weeks candidates for the Snap Upstream Blitz and updated Trello | 15:39 |
| flexiondotorg | · About a dozen upstreams and ISVs on the go. | 15:39 |
| flexiondotorg | · Been helping IBM with Node-RED *a lot*. | 15:39 |
| flexiondotorg | · Currently working on a usb-serial interface for snapd. | 15:39 |
| flexiondotorg | · Talking to Raspberry Pi Foundation to try and get AppArmor in snapd in Raspbian. | 15:39 |
| flexiondotorg | · Writing some snapcraft/snap docs for snapcraft.io. | 15:39 |
| flexiondotorg | · Some bug triage, mostly GTK3+ regressions. SRUs in progress. | 15:39 |
| flexiondotorg | 🎬 | 15:39 |
| seb128 | thanks flexiondotorg | 15:39 |
| seb128 | regressions in what serie? | 15:39 |
| seb128 | SRU ones? | 15:39 |
| flexiondotorg | GTK2+ and GTK3+ for some memory leaks. | 15:39 |
| flexiondotorg | Unreleased patches upstream. | 15:39 |
| flexiondotorg | SRUs for Yakkey. | 15:40 |
| seb128 | k | 15:40 |
| seb128 | thanks flexiondotorg | 15:40 |
| flexiondotorg | And Xenial. | 15:40 |
| seb128 | #topic happyaron | 15:40 |
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| seb128 | happyaron, hey, around? (if not I've your summary) | 15:41 |
| seb128 | seems not so | 15:42 |
| seb128 | 1. n-m and applet SRUs (again) | 15:42 |
| seb128 | 2. spl-linux's Linux 4.9 compatibility fix | 15:42 |
| seb128 | 3. work on root zpool | 15:42 |
| seb128 | 4. some work on manpages-zh | 15:42 |
| seb128 | 5. translation reviews for zh_CN | 15:42 |
| seb128 | #topic hikiko | 15:42 |
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| seb128 | hikiko, hey | 15:42 |
| hikiko | hey :) | 15:42 |
| hikiko | writing the final lowgfx bits :) eof | 15:42 |
| hikiko | quite short report this week :) | 15:42 |
| seb128 | thanks hikiko | 15:43 |
| seb128 | #topic Laney | 15:43 |
| seb128 | Laney, hey | 15:43 |
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| Laney | HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII | 15:44 |
| seb128 | :-) | 15:44 |
| Laney | what | 15:44 |
| hikiko | haha | 15:44 |
| Laney | my SSH is lagging | 15:44 |
| Laney | anyway | 15:44 |
| Laney | • autopkgtest: | 15:44 |
| Laney | ∘ gave access to apw, trained him a bit in the infrastructure | 15:44 |
| Laney | ∘ watched things, requeued some stuff etc | 15:44 |
| Laney | ∘ started setting up local instance to do some development (e.g. want to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/auto-package-testing/+bug/1630578 next, then https://bugs.launchpad.net/auto-package-testing/+bug/1649525) | 15:44 |
| Laney | ∘ got pinged about the ssl cert expiring, so figured out how that works & renewed it | 15:44 |
| Laney | • britney: | 15:44 |
| seb128 | meeting! | 15:44 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1630578 in Auto Package Testing "broken kernel causes eternal test retry loop" [Medium,Triaged] | 15:44 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1649525 in Auto Package Testing "Run tests for all arches in lxd" [Undecided,New] | 15:44 |
| Laney | ∘ fix proposed to not block on dropped tests in -proposed, waiting for review (https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/britney/+git/britney2-ubuntu/+ref/dropped-tests/) | 15:44 |
| Laney | • gnome-software: | 15:45 |
| Laney | ∘ rebased, updated, helped fix a couple of bugs and did some refactoring | 15:45 |
| Laney | ∘ had some chats upstream about implementation issues | 15:45 |
| Laney | ∘ rebased onto master, going to try to get stuff upstream | 15:45 |
| Laney | • archive: | 15:45 |
| Laney | ∘ rebased gst-good SRU | 15:45 |
| Laney | ∘ stabbed tests for glib2.0 SRUs, should be ok to go | 15:45 |
| Laney | ∘ some random fixes (e.g. cowsay breaks/replaces bug) | 15:45 |
| Laney | ➲ | 15:45 |
| Laney | think debmirror must have kicked in | 15:45 |
| seb128 | good busy week | 15:45 |
| seb128 | oh and good job being part of the new p_itti :-) | 15:45 |
| seb128 | thanks Laney | 15:45 |
| seb128 | #topic qengho | 15:46 |
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| seb128 | qengho, hey | 15:46 |
| qengho | Howdy! | 15:46 |
| qengho | - working on chromium beta tree | 15:46 |
| qengho | + aura x11 paste bug | 15:46 |
| qengho | + display-density regression | 15:46 |
| qengho | - updated Web Browser testng snap in edge channel, promoting to beta channel soon | 15:46 |
| qengho | - SAML login bug because of API key change last year? I don't grok at all. | 15:46 |
| qengho | - Moved to Gnome3 for the month on 16.10 laptop. keybindings, touchpad click, settings are set, but some not active. No idea why. It's maddening. | 15:46 |
| qengho | - One national holiday. | 15:46 |
| qengho | EOF :unicodeything: | 15:46 |
| seb128 | qengho, thanks (and no idea bout your GNOME3 issues, maybe worth a bug report on gnome-shell or something) | 15:47 |
| seb128 | #topic seb128 | 15:47 |
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| seb128 | • verified some xenial SRUs | 15:48 |
| seb128 | • cleaned a bit the sponsoring queue | 15:48 |
| seb128 | • launchpad bugs triage and debugged a bit some issues on the way | 15:48 |
| seb128 | • reviewed n-m SRUs for Aron | 15:48 |
| seb128 | • discussed with Didier the snappy desktop launcher changes for the gtk framework and tested new iterations | 15:48 |
| seb128 | • tested tweaks to the gtk-runtime-snaps examples | 15:48 |
| seb128 | </week> | 15:48 |
| seb128 | #topic Sweet5hark | 15:48 |
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| seb128 | Sweet5hark, hey | 15:48 |
| Sweet5hark | - got LibreOffice 5.3 snap to build in basic fashion on launchpad even | 15:48 |
| Sweet5hark | - still missing the usual things vs. dpkg: e.g. full l10n, debug symbols etc. | 15:48 |
| Sweet5hark | - working on getting the 5.3 dpkg on zesty now | 15:48 |
| Sweet5hark | -- unfortunately, more fun than expected there :/ -- e.g, debian moved to that newfangled dh9 dbgsyms-foo and I need to figure out if we want to follow (and if so, when) or not | 15:48 |
| Sweet5hark | -- still some MIRs dances/dep bumps expected | 15:48 |
| Sweet5hark | - usual TDF work: foundation budgets/approval, staff leadership | 15:48 |
| Sweet5hark | EOF | 15:48 |
| Laney | you can follow that change | 15:49 |
| seb128 | thanks Sweet5hark | 15:49 |
| Laney | ubuntu has had automatic dbgs for ages | 15:49 |
| Laney | ddebs | 15:49 |
| seb128 | Sweet5hark, btw any news about applying for libreoffice ppu again? ;-) | 15:49 |
| Sweet5hark | seb128: mhmhm | 15:49 |
| seb128 | and what Laney says about ddebs | 15:50 |
| seb128 | thanks Sweet5hark :-) | 15:50 |
| seb128 | #topic themuso | 15:50 |
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| seb128 | * Had a meeting with Konrad Zapalowicz to sort out matters with regards to bluetooth, pulseaudio patches, and pulseaudio and bluez in Xenial. His team have a desire to push a new bluez version to Xenial. I'm not sure whether it will be a bug fix only release. | 15:50 |
| seb128 | * Started testing pulseaudio 10 RC with the bluetooth hardware I have, due to having had to port a patch or 2. Things seem working, need to check logs and make sure my procedure in all cases is correct. | 15:50 |
| seb128 | * Filed main inclusion reports for espeak-ng and pcaudiolib, since Jeremy synced Speech Dispatcher from Debian. Once these are in, I'll move BrlTTY over to using espeak-ng as well, at which point the original espeak will drop from main. | 15:50 |
| Laney | I think that we did something to make rules files coming from Debian work properly | 15:50 |
| Laney | oops | 15:50 |
| seb128 | Laney, don't worry, I guess we can sort if you with Sweet5hark just after the meeting if he needed | 15:51 |
| seb128 | #topic Trevinho | 15:51 |
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| seb128 | Trevinho, hey | 15:51 |
| seb128 | I didn't see him today I think so let's move on | 15:52 |
| seb128 | #topic attente | 15:52 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: attente | ||
| seb128 | attente, back to you! | 15:52 |
| attente | ok :) | 15:53 |
| attente | committed window focus fix to gtk-mir upstream https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtk/+bug/1625397 | 15:53 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1625397 in MirAL "[gtk] Focus is stuck on the save as window vs the main window" [Medium,Triaged] | 15:53 |
| attente | tried to reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bubblewrap/+bug/1643734, no luck | 15:53 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1643734 in bubblewrap (Ubuntu Yakkety) "privilege escalation via ptrace (CVE-2016-8659)" [Medium,Fix released] | 15:53 |
| attente | backported clipboard patches to gtk3 upstream, need to backport more to reduce the delta | 15:53 |
| attente | reviewing apparmor dconf patches | 15:53 |
| attente | (eof) | 15:53 |
| seb128 | who is writing the patches for apparmor? did somebody from the security team pick that up from you? | 15:54 |
| Trevinho | seb128: sorrryyyyyyyyyyyyy...... Give me a sec to compile the list.... Call me again :-P. I was lost in pushing a fix :-P | 15:54 |
| attente | seb128: jjohansen added some changes to the old ones i sent to the mailing list last summer | 15:55 |
| seb128 | good morning Trevinho :-) | 15:56 |
| seb128 | attente, k, good to see that somebody is picking that work up! | 15:56 |
| seb128 | thanks attente | 15:56 |
| seb128 | #topic Trevinho | 15:56 |
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| attente | thanks seb128 | 15:56 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, k, let's try again :-) | 15:56 |
| Trevinho | well, i'm actually here since the real morning :-P | 15:56 |
| seb128 | I'm teasing you don't worry :-) | 15:57 |
| seb128 | that said your update would be welcome | 15:57 |
| seb128 | the team is waiting for you :p | 15:57 |
| Trevinho | - Prepared a couple of patches for upstream Qt (under review now) for better support of indicators when using upstream qt (with no appmenu-qt) and XDG_CURRENT_DESTKOP. | 15:57 |
| Trevinho | - Found a snapd security issue, some debugging related to that | 15:57 |
| Trevinho | - Using XDG_RUNTIME_DIR for temporary indicators icons in appmenu-qt and sni-qt | 15:57 |
| Trevinho | - Fixed a GTest dependency in Nux and compile errors | 15:57 |
| Trevinho | - More snappying work (telegram, remmina...) | 15:57 |
| Trevinho | /eof | 15:57 |
| Trevinho | ah... | 15:57 |
| Trevinho | just now | 15:57 |
| Trevinho | - Fixed some unity7 crashes by properly using cancellable in dbus proxy | 15:58 |
| seb128 | was that the one hikiko was getting? | 15:58 |
| Trevinho | yeah | 15:59 |
| seb128 | good :-) | 15:59 |
| seb128 | thanks Trevinho | 15:59 |
| seb128 | #topic aob | 15:59 |
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| seb128 | other topics? | 15:59 |
| seb128 | seems not? | 16:00 |
| seb128 | let's wrap then, thanks everyone! | 16:00 |
| seb128 | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Jan 17 16:00:34 2017 UTC. | 16:00 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2017/ubuntu-desktop.2017-01-17-15.30.moin.txt | 16:00 |
| Laney | good meeting | 16:00 |
| seb128 | well done team | 16:00 |
| seb128 | just half an hour! | 16:01 |
| ricotz | Sweet5hark, hi, just some thoughts, *completely* rebase the packaging on debian and only apply needed bits, re-validate the need for a separate l10n source package | 16:01 |
| ricotz | hey desktopers! | 16:01 |
| Trevinho | hey | 16:01 |
| Laney | anyone know WTF this means https://paste.ubuntu.com/23816887/ ? | 16:01 |
| Trevinho | BadValue.. | 16:02 |
| seb128 | Laney, buggy driver? | 16:02 |
| seb128 | is that nvidia? | 16:02 |
| Laney | dunno | 16:02 |
| Laney | yeah | 16:02 |
| seb128 | I would bet on that | 16:02 |
| Laney | It's a laptop what we have here | 16:02 |
| Trevinho | Laney: why is it trying to use lowgfx? Did you force it? | 16:02 |
| Laney | no | 16:02 |
| seb128 | seems like the glx code are hitting errors | 16:03 |
| Trevinho | Laney: what you get on/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -pf ? | 16:03 |
| Laney | hmm | 16:03 |
| Laney | how can I run that? | 16:03 |
| Laney | maybe I can steal the environment from the greeter | 16:04 |
| Sweet5hark | Laney, seb128: yeah, ddebs should work, but last time launchpad wasnt happy with how they were build in launchpad (worked fine for local builds IIRC). Because I punted on this last time (lack of ressources due to snaps), there is some more merge-work now. Anyway: Will try to get ddebs to work and be as close to debian as possible as first goal. if that doesnt work somehow, falling back to other options. | 16:04 |
| Trevinho | Laney: oh, yeah.... | 16:05 |
| Trevinho | but.... well, journalctl should give you those infos | 16:06 |
| Laney | Trevinho: ok, I haxed into lightdm, same glx error | 16:06 |
| Trevinho | as it runs the same script | 16:06 |
| Trevinho | yeah, it's your driver missing something... wondering what | 16:06 |
| Trevinho | and why it doesn't fallback to llvmpipe in case | 16:06 |
| Trevinho | or if it does it... | 16:06 |
| Laney | https://paste.ubuntu.com/23816928/ | 16:07 |
| seb128 | ricotz, I'm not sure what the main reason was for the l10n split but it was either buildd disk space usage or build time I think and those are likely still valid | 16:07 |
| Laney | it looks to me like xorg is using nvidia ok | 16:07 |
| Trevinho | Laney: no reference on journalctl about the unity-support-test run? | 16:08 |
| Laney | oh, sec | 16:08 |
| Laney | Trevinho: this is xenial fwiw | 16:08 |
| Trevinho | Laney: ah... Then........... Mhmhmh I don't remember, but I think we should run it... It still should be in the upstart logs somewhere | 16:08 |
| ricotz | seb128, yes, that was the reason, in the past the builder has different sizes, did this changed? I think having like 40GB space would suffice | 16:08 |
| Trevinho | or maybe it's in a prestart, so you might want to redirect the logging by hand | 16:09 |
| seb128 | Laney, it's similar to http://askubuntu.com/questions/801440/login-loop-badvalue-integer-parameter-out-of-range-for-operation-16-04 ... I sometime see some of those bugs reported on launchpad or forums and they usually are nvidia bugs and fixes are downgrades/reinstall/waiting for new version of the driver | 16:09 |
| Laney | Trevinho: It's the BadValue at the top of the log | 16:11 |
| Laney | seb128: ah man | 16:11 |
| Laney | seems bad that this happens on stable update | 16:11 |
| Laney | well, let me check proposed isn't on | 16:11 |
| Trevinho | Laney: wow, right... thus the lowgfx.... | 16:12 |
| Trevinho | Laney: try to force to llvmpipe | 16:12 |
| seb128 | Laney, 1639180 sounds similar | 16:18 |
| Laney | seb128: it does indeed, thanks | 16:19 |
| seb128 | yw | 16:19 |
| seb128 | ricotz, I don't know about the builder disk space, it's probably a question to ask on #launchpad or to Colin | 16:21 |
| Laney | tseliot: ^--- any progress to report there? | 16:21 |
| tseliot | Laney: do we have a bug report about that? | 16:24 |
| Laney | tseliot: seb just gave it | 16:24 |
| Laney | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-304/+bug/1639180 | 16:24 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1639180 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-304 (Ubuntu Xenial) "no login possible after update to nvidia 304.132" [Critical,Triaged] | 16:24 |
| tseliot | Laney: oh, that one. I am waiting for the security team to upload the package. | 16:26 |
| tseliot | the sources are available, and they passed the QA tests | 16:26 |
| Laney | can you hassle them please? | 16:27 |
| Laney | not good to be borking desktops | 16:27 |
| ricotz | tseliot, I guess 304.134 is waiting? | 16:27 |
| ricotz | seb128, I see | 16:28 |
| tseliot | Laney: I sent them another email this morning | 16:28 |
| tseliot | ricotz: yep | 16:29 |
| ricotz | tseliot, good | 16:29 |
| tseliot | the driver has been in zesty for a while | 16:29 |
| ricotz | and in the ppa | 16:29 |
| tseliot | of course | 16:30 |
| seb128 | so we have a regression in the LTS that makes user not able to log in since novembre§? | 16:33 |
| seb128 | some users* | 16:33 |
| seb128 | how come that's not a top priority and taking ages to get sorted out? :-( | 16:33 |
| tseliot | seb128: well, the previous security update introduced the regression, so we set up a new process to at least try to prevent that. Updates now involve both the security team and the QA team. So the process is a bit longer. Add the fact that mdeslaur and I were on holiday, and that Sarvatt and tyhicks had to fill in for us, + their holidays, and you get more delays. | 16:37 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: we had to wait to get a whole new driver first | 16:38 |
| seb128 | tseliot, yeah, I understand how those things happen, it's just not something we can justify to users "yeah it's normal that you are without an usable OS for ages" | 16:38 |
| tyhicks | I was also sprinting last week and didn't understand that you guys were wanting us to release the updates last week | 16:38 |
| seb128 | we should perhaps have blocked/deleted the previous update? | 16:38 |
| tyhicks | I see the email ping from several hours ago and we'll act on it shortly | 16:39 |
| mdeslaur | it wasn't broken on all hardware | 16:39 |
| seb128 | still | 16:39 |
| mdeslaur | it was a hardware-specific regression | 16:39 |
| tseliot | tyhicks: thanks | 16:39 |
| seb128 | tyhicks, thanks | 16:39 |
| tseliot | and true, it was hardware specific | 16:39 |
| seb128 | mdeslaur, well, still letting some users down | 16:39 |
| seb128 | but I don't know how important the security issue was/is | 16:39 |
| mdeslaur | seb128: I agree, it's unacceptable...but not an easy fix when it's in the binary blob | 16:39 |
| seb128 | so hard to argue for one option | 16:39 |
| mdeslaur | we definitely will be testing better going forward | 16:40 |
| tseliot | hopefully that won't happen again, thanks to the new process we have in place | 16:40 |
| seb128 | good to read | 16:40 |
| seb128 | thanks for the hard work mdeslaur tseliot tyhicks! | 16:41 |
| tseliot | ;) | 16:41 |
| tseliot | oh, and cwayne and his team did a great job taking care of the QA side | 16:42 |
| seb128 | brb, moving back from the coffee place | 16:45 |
| seb128 | FJKong, where did you report upstream the avahi issue? | 17:30 |
| Laney | night night | 18:05 |
| seb128 | night Laney! | 18:06 |
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| jbicha | attente: should we cherry-pick your gtk-3-22 mir commits to zesty's gtk3? | 21:10 |
| attente | jbicha: i'd still like to backport some more patches before we do that | 21:11 |
| attente | jbicha: and maybe it would be better to wait for the next upstream release | 21:11 |
| jbicha | ok, I'll just go ahead and upload 3.22.7 now then without them | 21:11 |
| attente | jbicha: thanks | 21:13 |
| Blu2 | from a design perspective wouldn't it make sense to remove the top bar, when an app is not in fullscreen? | 21:23 |
| Blu2 | on desktop | 21:28 |
| dmj_s76 | jbicha: Which branch should I base changes to the Humanity icons from? | 22:36 |
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