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rbasak#startmeeting ubuntu-server-team16:00
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Jan 17 16:00:24 2017 UTC.  The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:00
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rbasakcaribou isn't around for long, so let's start with his item.16:00
rbasak#topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (caribou)16:00
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rbasakcaribou: over to you!16:00
caribouwow that was quick16:01
jgrimmheh16:01
cariboulet me break the list so I don't flood the channel :16:01
cpaelzerthat sounds like a lot going on16:01
caribouLP: #1298061 - (nova) nova should allow evacuate for an instance in the Error state16:01
caribouLP: #1356211 - (sosreport) cannot collect rotated syslog.116:01
caribouLP: #1366103 - (sosreport) sosreport doesn't collect all data from /etc/apparmor.d/16:01
caribouLP: #1447695 - (sosreport) sosreport 3.2 does not collect systemd information16:01
caribouLP: #1447715 - (ifupdown) dhclient -6: Can't bind to dhcp address: Cannot assign requested address16:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1298061 in nova (Ubuntu Trusty) "nova should allow evacuate for an instance in the Error state" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129806116:01
caribouLP: #1579609 - (os-prober) os-prober bug resulting in possible FS corruption16:02
caribouLP: #1605243 - (sosreport) iscsi initiator related configs and logs are not recorded16:02
caribouLP: #1614052 - (sosreport) SOSREPORT need to collect OPAL msglog16:02
caribouLP: #1621340 - (multipath-tools) [SRU]'multipath -r' causes /dev/mapper/<wwid> being removed16:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1356211 in sosreport (Ubuntu Trusty) "cannot collect rotated syslog.1" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135621116:02
caribouLP: #1640382 - (qemu) Segfault event notifier because of race condition16:02
caribouLP: #1640676 - (libvirt) [SRU] libvirt 1.2.12 live-migration corrupts some instances16:02
caribouLP: #1642903 - (systemd) introduce disk/by-id (model_serial) symlinks for NVMe drives16:02
caribouLP: #1647485 - (systemd) NVMe symlinks broken by devices with spaces in model or serial strings16:02
caribouLP: #1648901 - (krb5) SPNEGO crash on mechanism failure16:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1366103 in sosreport (Ubuntu Trusty) "sosreport doesn't collect all data from /etc/apparmor.d/" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/136610316:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1447695 in sosreport (Ubuntu Trusty) "sosreport 3.2 does not collect systemd information" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144769516:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1447715 in ifupdown (Ubuntu Xenial) "dhclient -6: Can't bind to dhcp address: Cannot assign requested address" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144771516:02
caribouThe first nova SRU does't really belong here though16:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579609 in os-prober (Ubuntu Xenial) "os-prober bug resulting in possible FS corruption" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157960916:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1605243 in sosreport (Ubuntu Yakkety) "iscsi initiator related configs and logs are not recorded" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160524316:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1614052 in sosreport (Ubuntu Yakkety) "SOSREPORT need to collect OPAL msglog" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161405216:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1621340 in multipath-tools (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU]'multipath -r' causes /dev/mapper/<wwid> being removed" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162134016:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1640382 in qemu (Ubuntu Trusty) "Segfault event notifier because of race condition" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164038216:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1640676 in libvirt (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] libvirt 1.2.12 live-migration corrupts some instances" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164067616:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1642903 in systemd (Ubuntu Trusty) "introduce disk/by-id (model_serial) symlinks for NVMe drives" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164290316:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1647485 in systemd (Ubuntu Trusty) "NVMe symlinks broken by devices with spaces in model or serial strings" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164748516:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1648901 in krb5 (Ubuntu Xenial) "SPNEGO crash on mechanism failure" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164890116:02
cariboubeen doing some work on sosreport today to catch up with old issues16:02
caribouthat's about it16:03
cpaelzerI heard that coreycb looks into sponsoring the nova one16:03
rbasakThanks caribou!16:04
rbasakDoes anyone have any questions?16:04
jgrimmnope16:04
cpaelzerchecking on bugs16:04
cpaelzerI think I heard of all I'm affected already16:04
cpaelzerhere16:04
cpaelzerbug 164067616:04
ubottubug 1640676 in libvirt (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] libvirt 1.2.12 live-migration corrupts some instances" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164067616:04
cpaelzercaribou: what is left to do there16:04
cpaelzerit is rather unclear on this one16:05
cariboucpaelzer: I will have to check on this one16:05
cpaelzerIt was targetted for kilo UCA16:05
cpaelzerTBC is if that should go to trusty16:05
cpaelzerif so let Hua calrify and prep a debdiff I can review test and sponsor16:06
cpaelzerotherwise et him set the incomplete trusty to won't fix if that is ok16:06
cariboucpaelzer: the Trusty target might be there only to allow for UCA SRU; I'll check with him16:06
cpaelzergreat16:07
caribourbasak: can you please add an action for me on this ?16:07
cpaelzerrbasak: caribou: bug 1640382 was sponsored and verified, wait migration16:07
ubottubug 1640382 in qemu (Ubuntu Trusty) "Segfault event notifier because of race condition" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164038216:07
caribourbasak: ok, I'll clear the tag16:07
cpaelzeranything caribou or xtrusia can do to track or speed up migration?16:07
rbasakcaribou: sure. What should it say exactly? I'm not sure I follow.16:07
caribourbasak: [ACTION] caribou to verify with Huang if the Trusty Target is still required for bug 164067616:08
ubottubug 1640676 in libvirt (Ubuntu Trusty) "[SRU] libvirt 1.2.12 live-migration corrupts some instances" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164067616:08
rbasak#action caribou to verify with Huang if the Trusty Target is still required for bug 164067616:08
meetingologyACTION: caribou to verify with Huang if the Trusty Target is still required for bug 164067616:08
cpaelzercaribou: and finally for bug 1621340 I'll upload multipath in about 1.5 weeks from now as-is - or with some tweaks - depends if rbasak or cyphermox can find time for a deeper review16:09
ubottubug 1621340 in multipath-tools (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU]'multipath -r' causes /dev/mapper/<wwid> being removed" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162134016:09
cariboucpaelzer: good to know, thanks!16:09
* cpaelzer stops stalling this now16:10
cpaelzerbut I wanted to help syncing on that16:10
caribou:)16:10
cariboutbh, this is what this list is for16:10
rbasak#info cpaelzer will upload multipath in about 1.5 weeks from now16:11
rbasak#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting16:11
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rbasak#info There were no action points from the previous meeting.16:11
rbasak#topic Development Release16:11
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rbasak#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseSchedule16:11
rbasak#info About a month to feature freeze now. I know we still have a bunch of outstanding work items for feature freeze, including merges.16:12
jgrimm cpaelzer is working on qemu16:12
rbasak#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-z-server-core16:12
rbasakAny comments?16:12
jgrimmactively16:12
rbasakI'm nearly done with squid.16:12
jgrimm\o/16:12
rbasakI've been working with Lars upstream and we've merged mysql-5.7 and mysql-defaults now. They're not migrated yet - big dep8 backlog.16:13
jgrimmwe've gotten a bunch of the more complicated ones done, or in progress. that's a very nice place to be one month out16:13
rbasak#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)16:14
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rbasakpowersj: o/16:14
cpaelzerjust marked dovecot (done) and removed the duplicate on tgt 8done as well)16:14
powersjLast week lots of cloud-init work in the form of getting ready to add the KVM backend to the integration tests (thanks again for the input on that), reviewing Wes' merge request, and working on unit tests.16:14
powersjThis week is a short one for me so the plan is to review Wesley's latest merge request, review some jenkins failures, and spend more time on unit tests and trying to wrap up bug triage of 2016.16:14
powersjquestions? comments?16:14
jgrimmpowersj, ppc64el smoketest gating?16:15
cpaelzerpowersj: just FYI to everybody I was hacking a bit on the ppc qmeu migration tests16:15
powersjjgrimm: no still waiting on RT to gain access to jenkins16:15
cpaelzernot yet fully functioning, will work with powersj on it but at low/medium prio for now16:15
powersjcpaelzer: yeah saw, but haven't read, your email yet :P16:15
jgrimmpowersj, ok, you may want to ping that RT16:15
powersjjgrimm: will do (did once last week) I think I need to get thepriority raised again16:15
jgrimmthanks16:15
rbasak#info ppc64el smoketest gating is blocked on infrastructure16:16
rbasak#info cpaelzer has been working on the ppc qmeu migration tests16:16
rbasakThanks powersj!16:16
rbasak#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee)16:16
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smbNothing to report (guess kernel version 4.9 in zesty is old news, target for zesty is 4.10). Are there any questions?16:16
rbasak#info Target for zesty is 4.1016:16
caribousmb: would be good to find someone to look after the crash pkg16:17
smbcaribou, Oh right16:17
caribousmb: current version fails to open 4.8 & newer kernels16:17
caribousmb: I got a debdiff ready for this, but it still needs some loving care16:17
smbcaribou, Point me to the debdiff and I look who could handle it16:18
caribouLP: #165562516:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1655625 in makedumpfile (Ubuntu Xenial) "ISST-LTE:pVM:roselp4:ubuntu 16.04.2: vmcore cannot be analysed by crash" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165562516:18
caribousmb: I'll wave at you once I get everything ready16:19
smbcaribou, ok, thanks16:19
caribousmb: newer crash will still need merging in zesty otherwise it'll bite us16:19
smbyeah, I can believe that16:20
rbasakOK, thanks all!16:21
rbasak#topic Upcoming Call For Papers16:21
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rbasak#link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/16:21
rbasakAnything to mention?16:21
rbasak#topic Ubuntu Server Team Events16:21
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rbasakAnything to mention?16:21
rbasakI know FOSDEM is coming up. Anyone going?16:22
jgrimmlxd team16:22
rbasakGreat. Thanks jgrimm!16:23
rbasak#topic Open Discussion16:23
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jgrimmhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2017-January/039643.html16:23
jgrimmanyone give this any thought yet? ^^16:24
rbasak#info RFC: proposal to remove net-tools from ubuntu-minimal16:24
rbasak#link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2017-January/039643.html16:24
rbasakI don't see any issue with it.16:24
rbasakI'm sure we'll have users complaining ifconfig doesn't work come the next LTS, but they will still be able to install it manually.16:25
jgrimmmay have to double check our packages for correct dependencies16:25
cpaelzerwhat would you think of a ifconfig semi-compat wrapper16:26
cpaelzeras an alternative when net-tools are not installed16:26
rbasakThat's basically what ifconfig already is, no?16:26
cpaelzerhehe16:26
jgrimmheh16:26
cpaelzerI thought a <1k script that makes "please use this instead" or so16:26
cpaelzermaybe not worth the effort16:26
rbasakcommand-not-found should still work.16:27
rbasak$ sudo ifconfig ...16:27
cpaelzerjust came to my mind reading (and I agree) "we'll have users complaining ifconfig doesn't work come the next LTS"16:27
jgrimmright16:27
rbasak"Please install net-tools"16:27
cpaelzerthat is the problem16:27
cpaelzerI'd like to see16:27
cpaelzer$ sudo ifconfig16:27
cpaelzer"Please install net-tools or better ise the ip suite see XYZ"16:27
jgrimmcpaelzer, command-not-found not sufficient?16:27
cpaelzerfor deprecated things it lacks a way to "announce" the successor16:28
rbasakI wonder if cnf can handle custom messages.16:28
rbasakIf not, perhaps that's a feature request for it?16:28
jgrimmah16:28
rbasakA similar thing for /usr/bin/python might be appropriate too.16:28
smoseri think a deprecated message might be better placed in the thing itself16:29
smoserrather than in some thing unrelated16:29
smoserie16:29
smoser$ sudo ifconfiug16:29
smoser$ sudo ifconfig16:29
smoser<cnf says 'install ifconfig witih net-tools'>16:29
rbasakLet's take this to the ubuntu-devel ML.16:29
smoser$ sudo apt-get install net-tools16:29
jgrimm+116:30
jgrimmrbasak, ^^16:30
smoser$ ifconfig16:30
smoser<stderr>: this is deprecated16:30
smoser...16:30
smoseri'm fine to take to ml, just finishing my thought,.16:30
jgrimmyep! all good16:30
rbasaksmoser: I agree with your proposed UX; I just think that the implementation could be inside cnf.16:31
rbasakAnyway.16:31
* rbasak loses the agenda16:31
rbasakAh16:31
rbasak#topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair16:31
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rbasak#info Next meeting: Tue Jan 24 16:00:00 UTC 201716:32
rbasak#info Next chair: jamespage16:32
rbasak(says the rota)16:32
rbasakThanks all!16:32
rbasak#endmeeting16:32
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Jan 17 16:32:37 2017 UTC.16:32
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jgrimmthanks rbasak16:32
cpaelzerthanks rbasak16:33
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