[16:00] <rbasak> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 17 16:00:24 2017 UTC.  The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:00] <cpaelzer> o/
[16:00] <rbasak> o/
[16:00] <powersj> o/
[16:00] <jgrimm> o/
[16:00] <rbasak> caribou isn't around for long, so let's start with his item.
[16:00] <rbasak> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (caribou)
[16:00] <rbasak> caribou: over to you!
[16:01] <caribou> wow that was quick
[16:01] <jgrimm> heh
[16:01] <caribou> let me break the list so I don't flood the channel :
[16:01] <cpaelzer> that sounds like a lot going on
[16:01] <caribou> LP: #1298061 - (nova) nova should allow evacuate for an instance in the Error state
[16:01] <caribou> LP: #1356211 - (sosreport) cannot collect rotated syslog.1
[16:01] <caribou> LP: #1366103 - (sosreport) sosreport doesn't collect all data from /etc/apparmor.d/
[16:01] <caribou> LP: #1447695 - (sosreport) sosreport 3.2 does not collect systemd information
[16:01] <caribou> LP: #1447715 - (ifupdown) dhclient -6: Can't bind to dhcp address: Cannot assign requested address
[16:02] <caribou> LP: #1579609 - (os-prober) os-prober bug resulting in possible FS corruption
[16:02] <caribou> LP: #1605243 - (sosreport) iscsi initiator related configs and logs are not recorded
[16:02] <caribou> LP: #1614052 - (sosreport) SOSREPORT need to collect OPAL msglog
[16:02] <caribou> LP: #1621340 - (multipath-tools) [SRU]'multipath -r' causes /dev/mapper/<wwid> being removed
[16:02] <caribou> LP: #1640382 - (qemu) Segfault event notifier because of race condition
[16:02] <caribou> LP: #1640676 - (libvirt) [SRU] libvirt 1.2.12 live-migration corrupts some instances
[16:02] <caribou> LP: #1642903 - (systemd) introduce disk/by-id (model_serial) symlinks for NVMe drives
[16:02] <caribou> LP: #1647485 - (systemd) NVMe symlinks broken by devices with spaces in model or serial strings
[16:02] <caribou> LP: #1648901 - (krb5) SPNEGO crash on mechanism failure
[16:02] <caribou> The first nova SRU does't really belong here though
[16:02] <caribou> been doing some work on sosreport today to catch up with old issues
[16:03] <caribou> that's about it
[16:03] <cpaelzer> I heard that coreycb looks into sponsoring the nova one
[16:04] <rbasak> Thanks caribou!
[16:04] <rbasak> Does anyone have any questions?
[16:04] <jgrimm> nope
[16:04] <cpaelzer> checking on bugs
[16:04] <cpaelzer> I think I heard of all I'm affected already
[16:04] <cpaelzer> here
[16:04] <cpaelzer> bug 1640676
[16:04] <cpaelzer> caribou: what is left to do there
[16:05] <cpaelzer> it is rather unclear on this one
[16:05] <caribou> cpaelzer: I will have to check on this one
[16:05] <cpaelzer> It was targetted for kilo UCA
[16:05] <cpaelzer> TBC is if that should go to trusty
[16:06] <cpaelzer> if so let Hua calrify and prep a debdiff I can review test and sponsor
[16:06] <cpaelzer> otherwise et him set the incomplete trusty to won't fix if that is ok
[16:06] <caribou> cpaelzer: the Trusty target might be there only to allow for UCA SRU; I'll check with him
[16:07] <cpaelzer> great
[16:07] <caribou> rbasak: can you please add an action for me on this ?
[16:07] <cpaelzer> rbasak: caribou: bug 1640382 was sponsored and verified, wait migration
[16:07] <caribou> rbasak: ok, I'll clear the tag
[16:07] <cpaelzer> anything caribou or xtrusia can do to track or speed up migration?
[16:07] <rbasak> caribou: sure. What should it say exactly? I'm not sure I follow.
[16:08] <caribou> rbasak: [ACTION] caribou to verify with Huang if the Trusty Target is still required for bug 1640676
[16:08] <rbasak> #action caribou to verify with Huang if the Trusty Target is still required for bug 1640676
[16:08] <meetingology> ACTION: caribou to verify with Huang if the Trusty Target is still required for bug 1640676
[16:09] <cpaelzer> caribou: and finally for bug 1621340 I'll upload multipath in about 1.5 weeks from now as-is - or with some tweaks - depends if rbasak or cyphermox can find time for a deeper review
[16:09] <caribou> cpaelzer: good to know, thanks!
[16:10]  * cpaelzer stops stalling this now
[16:10] <cpaelzer> but I wanted to help syncing on that
[16:10] <caribou> :)
[16:10] <caribou> tbh, this is what this list is for
[16:11] <rbasak> #info cpaelzer will upload multipath in about 1.5 weeks from now
[16:11] <rbasak> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:11] <rbasak> #info There were no action points from the previous meeting.
[16:11] <rbasak> #topic Development Release
[16:11] <rbasak> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseSchedule
[16:12] <rbasak> #info About a month to feature freeze now. I know we still have a bunch of outstanding work items for feature freeze, including merges.
[16:12] <jgrimm>  cpaelzer is working on qemu
[16:12] <rbasak> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-z-server-core
[16:12] <rbasak> Any comments?
[16:12] <jgrimm> actively
[16:12] <rbasak> I'm nearly done with squid.
[16:12] <jgrimm> \o/
[16:13] <rbasak> I've been working with Lars upstream and we've merged mysql-5.7 and mysql-defaults now. They're not migrated yet - big dep8 backlog.
[16:13] <jgrimm> we've gotten a bunch of the more complicated ones done, or in progress. that's a very nice place to be one month out
[16:14] <rbasak> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)
[16:14] <rbasak> powersj: o/
[16:14] <cpaelzer> just marked dovecot (done) and removed the duplicate on tgt 8done as well)
[16:14] <powersj> Last week lots of cloud-init work in the form of getting ready to add the KVM backend to the integration tests (thanks again for the input on that), reviewing Wes' merge request, and working on unit tests.
[16:14] <powersj> This week is a short one for me so the plan is to review Wesley's latest merge request, review some jenkins failures, and spend more time on unit tests and trying to wrap up bug triage of 2016.
[16:14] <powersj> questions? comments?
[16:15] <jgrimm> powersj, ppc64el smoketest gating?
[16:15] <cpaelzer> powersj: just FYI to everybody I was hacking a bit on the ppc qmeu migration tests
[16:15] <powersj> jgrimm: no still waiting on RT to gain access to jenkins
[16:15] <cpaelzer> not yet fully functioning, will work with powersj on it but at low/medium prio for now
[16:15] <powersj> cpaelzer: yeah saw, but haven't read, your email yet :P
[16:15] <jgrimm> powersj, ok, you may want to ping that RT
[16:15] <powersj> jgrimm: will do (did once last week) I think I need to get thepriority raised again
[16:15] <jgrimm> thanks
[16:16] <rbasak> #info ppc64el smoketest gating is blocked on infrastructure
[16:16] <rbasak> #info cpaelzer has been working on the ppc qmeu migration tests
[16:16] <rbasak> Thanks powersj!
[16:16] <rbasak> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee)
[16:16] <smb> Nothing to report (guess kernel version 4.9 in zesty is old news, target for zesty is 4.10). Are there any questions?
[16:16] <rbasak> #info Target for zesty is 4.10
[16:17] <caribou> smb: would be good to find someone to look after the crash pkg
[16:17] <smb> caribou, Oh right
[16:17] <caribou> smb: current version fails to open 4.8 & newer kernels
[16:17] <caribou> smb: I got a debdiff ready for this, but it still needs some loving care
[16:18] <smb> caribou, Point me to the debdiff and I look who could handle it
[16:18] <caribou> LP: #1655625
[16:19] <caribou> smb: I'll wave at you once I get everything ready
[16:19] <smb> caribou, ok, thanks
[16:19] <caribou> smb: newer crash will still need merging in zesty otherwise it'll bite us
[16:20] <smb> yeah, I can believe that
[16:21] <rbasak> OK, thanks all!
[16:21] <rbasak> #topic Upcoming Call For Papers
[16:21] <rbasak> #link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/
[16:21] <rbasak> Anything to mention?
[16:21] <rbasak> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:21] <rbasak> Anything to mention?
[16:22] <rbasak> I know FOSDEM is coming up. Anyone going?
[16:22] <jgrimm> lxd team
[16:23] <rbasak> Great. Thanks jgrimm!
[16:23] <rbasak> #topic Open Discussion
[16:23] <jgrimm> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2017-January/039643.html
[16:24] <jgrimm> anyone give this any thought yet? ^^
[16:24] <rbasak> #info RFC: proposal to remove net-tools from ubuntu-minimal
[16:24] <rbasak> #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2017-January/039643.html
[16:24] <rbasak> I don't see any issue with it.
[16:25] <rbasak> I'm sure we'll have users complaining ifconfig doesn't work come the next LTS, but they will still be able to install it manually.
[16:25] <jgrimm> may have to double check our packages for correct dependencies
[16:26] <cpaelzer> what would you think of a ifconfig semi-compat wrapper
[16:26] <cpaelzer> as an alternative when net-tools are not installed
[16:26] <rbasak> That's basically what ifconfig already is, no?
[16:26] <cpaelzer> hehe
[16:26] <jgrimm> heh
[16:26] <cpaelzer> I thought a <1k script that makes "please use this instead" or so
[16:26] <cpaelzer> maybe not worth the effort
[16:27] <rbasak> command-not-found should still work.
[16:27] <rbasak> $ sudo ifconfig ...
[16:27] <cpaelzer> just came to my mind reading (and I agree) "we'll have users complaining ifconfig doesn't work come the next LTS"
[16:27] <jgrimm> right
[16:27] <rbasak> "Please install net-tools"
[16:27] <cpaelzer> that is the problem
[16:27] <cpaelzer> I'd like to see
[16:27] <cpaelzer> $ sudo ifconfig
[16:27] <cpaelzer> "Please install net-tools or better ise the ip suite see XYZ"
[16:27] <jgrimm> cpaelzer, command-not-found not sufficient?
[16:28] <cpaelzer> for deprecated things it lacks a way to "announce" the successor
[16:28] <rbasak> I wonder if cnf can handle custom messages.
[16:28] <rbasak> If not, perhaps that's a feature request for it?
[16:28] <jgrimm> ah
[16:28] <rbasak> A similar thing for /usr/bin/python might be appropriate too.
[16:29] <smoser> i think a deprecated message might be better placed in the thing itself
[16:29] <smoser> rather than in some thing unrelated
[16:29] <smoser> ie
[16:29] <smoser> $ sudo ifconfiug
[16:29] <smoser> $ sudo ifconfig
[16:29] <smoser> <cnf says 'install ifconfig witih net-tools'>
[16:29] <rbasak> Let's take this to the ubuntu-devel ML.
[16:29] <smoser> $ sudo apt-get install net-tools
[16:30] <jgrimm> +1
[16:30] <jgrimm> rbasak, ^^
[16:30] <smoser> $ ifconfig
 this is deprecated
[16:30] <smoser> ...
[16:30] <smoser> i'm fine to take to ml, just finishing my thought,.
[16:30] <jgrimm> yep! all good
[16:31] <rbasak> smoser: I agree with your proposed UX; I just think that the implementation could be inside cnf.
[16:31] <rbasak> Anyway.
[16:31]  * rbasak loses the agenda
[16:31] <rbasak> Ah
[16:31] <rbasak> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair
[16:32] <rbasak> #info Next meeting: Tue Jan 24 16:00:00 UTC 2017
[16:32] <rbasak> #info Next chair: jamespage
[16:32] <rbasak> (says the rota)
[16:32] <rbasak> Thanks all!
[16:32] <rbasak> #endmeeting
[16:32] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jan 17 16:32:37 2017 UTC.
[16:32] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-01-17-16.00.moin.txt
[16:32] <jgrimm> thanks rbasak
[16:33] <cpaelzer> thanks rbasak