[00:02] <compdoc> the only one I knew was so bad ass he beat me up and stole my gf
[00:11] <stanford_AI> compdoc, sad to hear that :/ - should i stay away from them?
[00:11] <compdoc> only if your gf is good looking
[02:51] <misterpink> Is there anyway to backup Ubuntu server and "reload" it similar to restoring a snapshot of a VM?
[02:52] <misterpink> Or is rsync the way to go?
[03:04] <Jakethepython1> Hello Room i was wondering if anyone else has had troubleinstalling SAMBA
[03:37] <fishcooker> is it safe to trim the memory availability to 2Giga RAM only if i have this usage http://vpaste.net/1lSSY ?
[08:01] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:09] <seyeongkim> somebody can sponsor this issue for SRU? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1298061
[09:20] <cpaelzer> jamespage: coreycb: ^^ ?
[09:48] <cpaelzer> rbasak: I've used color-words often enough today that I wanted to thank you to make me aware of it
[09:51] <rbasak> You're welcome :-)
[10:56] <davmor2> hey guys quick question on uvtool is there a way I can connect to port 80 to test the nextcloud snap is running correctly from the host, I tried with the ip address and it failed so I'm assuming it needs some port forwarding
[10:57] <rbasak> davmor2: where is the port 80 listener running? In the guest, as a snap? And from where are you trying to connect?
[10:58] <davmor2> rbasak: so install 14.04 image in uvtool, connected to it via uvt-kvm ssh install the relevant bits to install snapd in the guest and install nextcloud now I would like to connect to it from the host browser rather than using a text browser in the guest
[11:00] <rbasak> davmor2: uvtool shouldn't be interfering with that at all, assuming default network settings. Test using nc or something.
[11:00] <davmor2> rbasak: basically I'm testing 14.04 snapd install and need to ensure the nextcloud snap is running as expected
[11:00] <rbasak> davmor2: is the snap really listening on the guest's "outside" NIC interface?
[11:02] <davmor2> rbasak: yeah that is a potential issue but it works in kvm where I manually set 8080 to point to port 80 on guest.  So I think it does
[11:03] <rbasak> davmor2: "echo yes|nc -l 5555" in the guest, and then "nc <ip> 5555" on the host.
[11:03] <rbasak> davmor2: and then remove the snap and try it with 80.
[11:04] <rbasak> davmor2: also check the guest IP as viewed from the host is correct. "uvt-kvm ip <name>" will give you that.
[11:20] <adrian_1908> I installed PHP7 on my 16.04 VPS and it seems that the php-fpm implementation was chosen. Has this become the default when not specified otherwise?
[11:55] <davmor2> rbasak: hmm can't connect locally either I'll kill it and try again pre-snapd install incase that is breaking something thanks for the tips
[12:00] <rbasak> adrian_1908: yes.
[12:01] <rbasak> davmor2: you're welcome. I'm curious to know what the problem turns out to be.
[12:01] <adrian_1908> rbasak: ok, thanks. (not complaining, just expected otherwise)
[12:02] <rbasak> adrian_1908: OOI, why did you expect otherwise? I believe the default comes from Ondrej, the main Debian PHP maintainer. I'm not sure of his reasoning - perhaps what's used most widely or what is recommended upstream?
[12:03] <davmor2> rbasak: the installation of snapd pulls in lost starting at systemd and working it's way up so it might be that kvm isn't taking it so lightly, if it fails again I'll try on hardware and see if it fails there too
[12:12] <adrian_1908> I think it used to be more common/popular to run PHP as an Apache module (Last time I used PHP, it was version 5). I assumed this was the conservative choice to this date. The current default seems to be a superior option, so that's great.
[12:41] <coreycb> seyeongkim, cpaelzer, i'll take a look at that nova sru
[13:00] <davmor2> rbasak: now it works perfectly I think some setting must of got screwed up somehow :)
[13:01] <rbasak> davmor2: OK. Thanks for reporting back :)
[13:05] <coreycb> jamespage, ocata b2 is ready to promote
[13:16] <coreycb> zul, backported panko to ocata-staging
[13:19] <jamespage> coreycb, awesome!
[13:19] <jamespage> coreycb, working that now
[13:19] <jamespage> staging->proposed
[13:20] <coreycb> jamespage, thanks
[13:20] <jamespage> coreycb, its on the list
[13:20] <jamespage> panko
[13:20] <coreycb> jamespage, ok thanks
[13:33] <zul> coreycb:coolio
[13:51] <zul> coreycb: ahaha.....pypi.debian.net is down
[14:40] <coreycb> cpaelzer, hi, you don't happen to have a liberty patch for qemu machine type issue do you?
[14:43] <cpaelzer> coreycb: sorry, no
[14:47] <coreycb> cpaelzer, just looking at your xenial diff from your ppa.  is the delta shown for debian/patches/ubuntu/define-ubuntu-machine-types.patch everything you had to patch for xenial?
[14:48] <coreycb> cpaelzer, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/293383980/qemu_1%3A2.5+dfsg-5ubuntu10_1%3A2.5+dfsg-5ubuntu10.7~ppa1.diff.gz
[15:00] <cpaelzer> coreycb: that has a lot of noise, especially since some types were missing IIRC
[15:00] <cpaelzer> coreycb: the TL;DR of the change is
[15:00] <cpaelzer> -+    pc_i440fx_machine_options(m);
[15:00] <cpaelzer> ++    pc_i440fx_2_0_machine_options(m);
[15:00] <cpaelzer> and similar
[15:00] <cpaelzer> coreycb: the rest is work around to make it behave, e.g. it had double defaults and more extra issues
[15:01] <cpaelzer> coreycb: for liberty if otherwise ok you mainly have to translate that diff above
[15:01] <cpaelzer> coreycb: since that was before a rewrite it likely comes down to some COMPAT structs
[15:01] <cpaelzer> coreycb: but that was so "before my time" that I can't tell for sure
[15:02] <cpaelzer> The Makros like DEFINE_I440FX_MACHINE modularize a lot what the old definitions were like
[15:03] <coreycb> cpaelzer, ok i'll take a look.  the code seems to be quite a bit different at first glance in 2.3 vs 2.5.
[15:04] <cpaelzer> yes it does
[15:04] <cpaelzer> there were two rewrites of this
[15:04] <cpaelzer> and to make it worse - different archs do it differently
[15:07] <cpaelzer> coreycb: I'll ping you once I have a qemu 2.8 to test and will refresh the ppa for the bug - if until then we have a ppa fix for Liberty we can try to go along a fully fixed upgrade path
[15:15] <teward> is someone able to update the server team work page for me to mark the nginx merges as blocked or similar?  there's an fPIE/fPIC problem that causes explosive build failures, and unrelated build failure cases when not building fPIE/fPIC that break the ability to merge.
[15:16] <teward> and since i had to reinstall my OS I lost the link for the work blueprint... :p;
[15:23] <alibama> i’ve got a server that’s shooting out spam… i’m running maldet to see if there are open scripts, but i suspect it’s somehow going through a drupal install… just not sure, and not entirely sure where to begin…. any advice on this?
[15:46] <alibama> i’m going through and updating everything, checking all the applications… any other ideas?
[15:58] <dasjoe> Disable local mail servers
[17:15] <blueking> I have ubuntu server.. with dual nic intel I210AT that supports vlan tagging...  much work to put in lacp + vlan tagging ?
[17:57] <genii> !vlan
[17:57] <genii> Hm
[17:57] <genii> blueking: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/vlan seems to have pretty comprehensive instructions
[19:38] <blueking> just wonder, dual NIC onboard.. using lacp + vlan are possibly yes ?
[19:40] <sarnold> I'm 90% sure I've seen that documented somewhere before
[19:43] <blueking> and vlan 100 and vlan 200 have routing activaded on router... if add vlan 100 and 200 on pc ubuntu..   there are switch between pc and router.. when a pc on vlan 100 request a file from pc-ubuntu  it doesn't go through router but only switch.. and same to pc on vlan 200 request same file on pc-ubuntu.. ?
[19:44] <blueking> like watching movies +++
[19:48] <blueking> hmm  ubuntu have no support for lacp/link aggregation ?
[19:49] <qman__> it most certainly does
[19:49] <qman__> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[19:49] <blueking> ok  wiki ubuntu said nothing about it :P
[19:51] <qman__> to combine bonding, bridging, and/or vlan, you just do them together, keeping in mind that bonding happens at the lowest level, then bridging, then vlans
[19:52] <qman__> so you'd have your physical interfaces part of a bond0 interface, and then a bond0.x interface for the vlan
[19:55] <blueking> don't need bridge ?
[19:56] <qman__> if you're bridging, that goes in between, bond0, br0 bridging bond0, br0.x for vlan
[19:58] <blueking> what's point of bridging ?
[19:58] <qman__> if you need to bridge to other interfaces
[19:59] <qman__> my use case, and a common one, is for a VM host, needing to bridge VMs to the bond
[19:59] <blueking> not many uses to that on a pc setup.. mostly on switches and routers ?
[20:00] <qman__> mostly for virtual hosts (both servers and PCs in lab scenarios) and stuff that requires very high availability
[20:01] <blueking> never used vm before
[20:01] <blueking> no clue about it :P
[20:02] <blueking> my goal are to reduce load on router
[20:05] <sarnold> do you have evidence that your router is actually suffering under some kind of load?
[20:05] <blueking> router have 8 ports.. define a 'vlan' subnet on each interface (no port trunking of vlans on one interface)   give each subnet vlan ID on switch  the router supports 8Gbps
[20:05] <blueking> no switch chip on router
[20:06] <blueking> and it would need 3 layer  switch to switch at vlan level I've been told
[20:06] <qman__> if you're not already running separate vlans, they aren't going to do anything for you here, the purpose of a vlan is network segregation, not performance
[20:07] <blueking> software switching on routing reduces performance on router...
[20:08] <blueking> on router
[20:08] <blueking> reason for vlan's are limit kids access to net by time
[20:08] <blueking> and have a guest zone
[20:11] <blueking> if bonding + vlan on fileserver means  pc's on diff vlans can go straight to fileserver and not beeing routed through router ?
[20:12] <sarnold> you might want to sketch a diagram of your network
[20:19] <qman__> you would only configure vlans on the ubuntu server if the ubuntu server is connected to a trunked port
[20:50] <mwhahaha> hey folks, it seems that there has been an update in which /etc/default/libvirt-bin is no longer being shipped in packaging. is this expected? (/etc/default/libvirtd seems to be the spot now)
[21:02] <mwhahaha> so if anyone cares, it seems to be the alignment with the debian package (libvirt 2.5.0-3ubuntu1~cloud0). the old service name libvirt-bin has an alias but the default file is now /etc/default/libvirtd
[21:54] <dannf> hey smoser - do you have plans to SRU LP: #1640519 back? I can prepare an upload if you prefer
[21:59] <smoser> dannf, i think we'd just grab zesty and pull it back.
[22:00] <dannf> smoser: *nod*
[22:04] <smoser> i'll talk to rharper tomorrow and we can look at that.
[22:04] <smoser> dch would look like http://paste.ubuntu.com/23818780/
[22:05] <smoser> which is all tests or bug fixes so unless there is something else we want in, i think we can proably do that tomorrow.
[22:05] <dannf> smoser: cool, thanks!
[22:07] <smoser> dannf, youc ould help by writing an SRU template on that bug
[22:07] <dannf> smoser: will do
[22:34] <shygirl> any one seeing my messages?
[22:34] <shygirl> Oh nvm
[22:34] <shygirl> hihi
[22:35] <shygirl> Is this for ubuntu vps (using ubuntu 16.04 OS) as well?
[22:35] <dasjoe> Most probably, yes
[22:35] <shygirl> I have some weird processes i don't know about
[22:35] <shygirl> And never seen before
[22:36] <shygirl> what's these http://i.imgur.com/mqOhY0H.png :~ ps -x
[22:38] <dasjoe> Most are related to your block devices
[22:38] <shygirl> block devices?
[22:38] <sarnold> kpsmoused?
[22:39] <shygirl> I've never seen them before until i ran a command and mess up my whole permission system
[22:39] <sarnold> huh look at that I've got a kpsmoused on my laptop
[22:40] <shygirl> http://i.imgur.com/szge7Yn.png
[22:40] <dasjoe> shygirl: your disk(s), storage devices
[22:40] <shygirl> so why are they showing there
[22:40] <shygirl> it wasn't like that before
[22:41] <shygirl> how to fix
[22:41] <shygirl> .
[22:41] <sarnold> that's normal
[22:41] <shygirl> should i close them?
[22:41] <shygirl> er.. kill?
[22:41] <sarnold> no, and since those are kernel threads, you probably couldn't even if you tried
[22:41] <shygirl> I'm looking for a special process
[22:42] <shygirl> is there a way to search?
[22:42] <sarnold> pgrep has many, but I'm too lazy to learn it, I just use ps auxw | grep ...
[22:42] <shygirl> also, how do i fix my permissions system?
[22:42] <shygirl> I can even do "apt-get" without root now
[22:43] <sarnold> it depends upon what's broken. btw apt-get on its own doesn't require privileges to run it, but you'll need privileges to use e.g. apt-get update or apt-get upgrade
[22:44] <shygirl> i usually need sudo to do it
[22:44] <shygirl> now, it runs without promptng sudo
[22:44] <shygirl> because of a command i ran b4
[22:44] <shygirl> need to revert changes
[22:45] <shygirl> .