| Roey | CapsAdmin: HELLO! | 00:01 |
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| === cassandra is now known as itsme | ||
| Roey | itsme: hello, do you know linux? | 00:38 |
| === claydoh- is now known as claydoh | ||
| Roey | doh | 00:39 |
| Roey | s/he left. | 00:39 |
| valorie | Roey: you got no help yet? | 00:45 |
| Roey | mgolden_ and lordievader responded but it was past my bedtime | 00:47 |
| Roey | hey Valorie | 00:47 |
| valorie | and was their help, helpful? | 00:51 |
| Roey | valorie: they just asked me to explain the issue | 02:13 |
| Roey | valorie: like, I can chat here but I can't resolve hostnames to IP addresses in firefox/ping/gethostip/etc. Even though I can do "nslookup" successfully | 02:13 |
| sintre | well if i remember from yesterday we thru everything we could think of at it | 02:14 |
| sintre | and the kitchen sink :) | 02:14 |
| sintre | not sure if i remember correctly but this was after and upgrade from 160.4 | 02:15 |
| sintre | i mean 16.04 | 02:15 |
| sintre | so for time being going back would beeasier than bangin your head against the wall | 02:15 |
| sintre | it might be hardware specific somehow but nobody could figure it out atleast not yet | 02:16 |
| sintre | on thing id din't ask yesterday was , do you have wifi as well has a broadband card | 02:17 |
| sintre | and did you try testing both | 02:17 |
| sintre | with same result on same system | 02:17 |
| Roey | heh | 02:27 |
| Roey | sintre: correct, it happened once I upgraded to 16.10. I can test with a livecd to see if it's any other issue | 02:27 |
| Roey | I don't have wifi on this system | 02:27 |
| Roey | it's just a desktop godbox (intel 5960x + 64GB ram) | 02:28 |
| sintre | test another 16.10 live usb? | 02:28 |
| sintre | reg ubuntu or kubuntu? | 02:28 |
| Roey | kubuntu | 02:28 |
| Roey | oh heavens not ubuntu; GNOME can rot in hell | 02:29 |
| sintre | did it work? | 02:29 |
| Roey | I need to do it. | 02:29 |
| sintre | not asking to switch lol | 02:29 |
| Roey | heh | 02:29 |
| sintre | this just for tresting | 02:29 |
| Roey | aye of course | 02:29 |
| Roey | I'll get to it | 02:29 |
| sintre | i also don't like gnome personally | 02:29 |
| Roey | ah | 02:29 |
| Roey | what don't you like about it? | 02:30 |
| Roey | I don't like that it supposes things for me | 02:30 |
| Roey | and limits my options | 02:30 |
| Roey | and the community has such a snobby attitude, I find. | 02:30 |
| sintre | honestly just out of box layout drive me crazy | 02:30 |
| Roey | ah | 02:30 |
| sintre | everything at top lol | 02:30 |
| Roey | ah, that too | 02:30 |
| sintre | i'm easy to piss off , so went straight to kubuntu when i found it | 02:30 |
| Roey | ah! Was this recent? | 02:30 |
| sintre | na few year ago | 02:30 |
| Roey | oh ok | 02:31 |
| sintre | before i sswitched ot kubuntu as my primary os | 02:31 |
| Roey | who knows maybe I'll go to Neon after this | 02:31 |
| Roey | red hat in 1998 -> Debian in 1999 -> Kubuntu in 2005 or so | 02:31 |
| sintre | try the live usb and see if it works for you :) | 02:31 |
| Roey | ok :) | 02:32 |
| Roey | and then what | 02:32 |
| Roey | reinstall this thing?? | 02:32 |
| sintre | honestly with the head aches i'd just go back to 26.04 | 02:32 |
| sintre | 16.04 with backports | 02:32 |
| sintre | until you can figure out what causing this | 02:33 |
| sintre | if you know it works | 02:33 |
| sintre | something may of happend in the upgrade nobody can figure out | 02:33 |
| sintre | or before , try a fresh install straight from a 16.10 kubuntu | 02:33 |
| sintre | thats how i think thoug , comes a time to not waste more time | 02:34 |
| sintre | if you want function up system | 02:34 |
| sintre | so back up and get rdy if thats what you wanna do :) | 02:34 |
| sintre | hey darin | 02:35 |
| DarinMiller | hey sintre | 02:35 |
| sintre | Roey has had epic two day battle after upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10 | 02:35 |
| sintre | so far we've thrown everyhting we can think of | 02:36 |
| DarinMiller | Symptons? | 02:36 |
| sintre | seems he can't resolve and websites hostname | 02:36 |
| sintre | but can connect directly with a p to sites | 02:36 |
| sintre | ip | 02:36 |
| sintre | hopefully that paged him | 02:36 |
| DarinMiller | Is Roey the same person we were attempting to help a few days ago? | 02:37 |
| sintre | yea and yesterday | 02:37 |
| sintre | reinstalled network manager and everything else | 02:37 |
| DarinMiller | Last thing I suggested was purging iptables as that had helped someone with the same issue, but I did not hear back. | 02:40 |
| sintre | he seems to pop in and out | 02:40 |
| sintre | last think i could recomend is just back up and put 16.04 on there again | 02:40 |
| DarinMiller | Do you recall if he is using a laptop or desktop? | 02:41 |
| sintre | he using a a desktop | 02:41 |
| DarinMiller | Does live booting with 16.10 work ok? | 02:41 |
| sintre | it's just a desktop godbox (intel 5960x + 64GB ram) | 02:41 |
| sintre | i asked him to try that | 02:41 |
| sintre | he said he might get around to it | 02:41 |
| DarinMiller | WOW. That's the problem way too much RAM | 02:41 |
| DarinMiller | :) | 02:42 |
| sintre | lol | 02:42 |
| DarinMiller | A couple of options to try. 1) Live boot to test network. 2) Small hammper approach: install 16.10 to a small partion, run updates and see if everything is normal. | 02:44 |
| DarinMiller | I suspect he may have more than 1 HD judging by the amount of RAM, so 2nd install should be very easy to test. | 02:45 |
| sintre | yea , hoping he took the live iso advice | 02:45 |
| sintre | he has a wireless router other devices can connect to fine | 02:46 |
| DarinMiller | I have never heard of a broken network connection and googling turns up very little. hateball was really good at network issues so maybe he could assist. | 02:46 |
| sintre | but no wifi for his desktop | 02:46 |
| sintre | well he's gotta come back to help him , i assume he will as he aint giving up on it obviously | 02:47 |
| === AntiSpamMeta is now known as Guest6813 | ||
| Roey | Darin | 03:13 |
| Roey | doh | 03:13 |
| Roey | he left.. | 03:13 |
| sintre | he'll be back just stay around chat | 03:13 |
| Roey | ok | 03:13 |
| Roey | I need to go to bed soon--I should try that livecd...ya know..I'll burn it on my laptop | 03:14 |
| Roey | hihi DarinMiller | 03:14 |
| sintre | told you he'd be back | 03:14 |
| Roey | ^_^ | 03:14 |
| DarinMiller | Hey Roey | 03:18 |
| Roey | oh hello DarinMiller | 03:19 |
| sintre | ahh hpefully bboth here t same time lol | 03:19 |
| Roey | I'm downloading the 16.10 livcd | 03:19 |
| Roey | :) | 03:19 |
| DarinMiller | Sounds like a great plan. So the network symptons seem to be dns resolution related? (You can ping specific IP's but no name resolving?) | 03:20 |
| sintre | roey darin can't think of what i can't imagine , helped me tons | 03:20 |
| Roey | ah! | 03:22 |
| Roey | wellthank you | 03:22 |
| Roey | DarinMiller: indeed | 03:22 |
| Roey | I can ping specific IPs, but when I try pinging hostnames, it just sits there | 03:22 |
| Roey | when I try going to specific hostnames in Firefox, it just says "looking up" | 03:23 |
| Roey | eventually it times out (I figure it is timing out and defaulting to another resolution provider) and downloads some of the web pate | 03:23 |
| Roey | DarinMiller: now assuming that the LiveCD works, then the next step would be to compare configuration of the system agains that of the livecd | 03:24 |
| Roey | I would think. | 03:24 |
| DarinMiller | Yes. But while downloading lets see if we can fix it. | 03:25 |
| DarinMiller | Have you tried pointing to another dns server such as google via network manager settings? | 03:25 |
| Roey | I have | 03:27 |
| Roey | I mean I've tried putting this value in /etc/resolv.conf (it still didn't work, and /etc/resolv.conf invariably got overwritten anyway.. so I tried putting this value into /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head so that it would appear consistently in /etc/resolv.conf | 03:28 |
| Roey | but even with nameserver 8.8.8.8 as the first line in /etc/resolv.conf, still the system could not resolve hostnames | 03:29 |
| DarinMiller | what about disabling ipv6 in network manager? | 03:30 |
| Roey | I haven't tried disabling ipv6... how can I do that through the command line | 03:31 |
| Roey | ? | 03:31 |
| Roey | network manager.. I can't get that to run | 03:31 |
| sintre | ok now we're on to someting | 03:31 |
| Roey | yeah we tried it yesterday here | 03:35 |
| Roey | I just couldn't get this thing to load | 03:35 |
| Roey | BRB | 03:37 |
| DarinMiller | sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1 | 03:37 |
| Roey | ah | 03:37 |
| DarinMiller | to renable sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=0 | 03:37 |
| VulcanJedi | Any guesses why firefox keeps opening on my secondary display? | 03:37 |
| Roey | ok, I've disbaled it | 03:38 |
| Roey | now what? ping shows the same (mis)behavior | 03:38 |
| DarinMiller | ok, renable and try ping again. | 03:39 |
| Roey | same thing. | 03:39 |
| Roey | let me reboot for a sec? | 03:39 |
| Roey | I have the livecd here | 03:39 |
| sintre | certainy give that a go | 03:40 |
| Roey | ko, BRB | 03:40 |
| Roey | *ok | 03:40 |
| DarinMiller | ok | 03:41 |
| DarinMiller | VulcanJedi: some application ignore the windows manager window placement. However, you can override that behavior. | 03:42 |
| DarinMiller | VulcanJedi: btw, what version of Kubuntu are you running? | 03:42 |
| VulcanJedi | xenial | 03:42 |
| DarinMiller | Is everything working OK for you (plasma not crashing, dual monitor settings lost during reboot, etc)? | 03:44 |
| VulcanJedi | yes, though i had to force nvidia x server to add the correct resolution to my 2nd monitor. no display issues since then | 03:45 |
| DarinMiller | OK, if everything is stable then you should not need backports ppa, but I would recommend it you experience any stability issues. | 03:46 |
| VulcanJedi | oh, i got backports trying to get other things working, but it turns out facebook is just a curmudgeon | 03:47 |
| DarinMiller | regarding firefox, do you want it to alway open in the same location? I can walk you through how to force it. | 03:47 |
| VulcanJedi | preferably, to open in the last position it was open | 03:48 |
| VulcanJedi | but if i can have it open on primary, that's of course the next best thing | 03:48 |
| DarinMiller | Just a sec, testing ff on my dual screen box. | 03:48 |
| DarinMiller | I usally run chrome and does not always follow the desktop windows placement either... | 03:49 |
| DarinMiller | Do you run ff full or split screen? | 03:50 |
| VulcanJedi | full | 03:50 |
| VulcanJedi | haven't tried chrome on ubuntu yet, is chromium the same thing? | 03:51 |
| DarinMiller | chromium lack the built in pepperflash and other proprietary bits. | 03:53 |
| DarinMiller | VulcanJedi: the monitor where you want ff to start, is it your primary monitor? Do you know how to verify? | 03:59 |
| VulcanJedi | It is, but I can double check. | 03:59 |
| DarinMiller | 16.04 had issues with primary monitor retention. backports updates fix most of the issues. | 04:00 |
| VulcanJedi | oh, well then i should see if it keeps the 2nd monitor's panel if i add one again | 04:01 |
| DarinMiller | OK, I found a new option I had not tried until now. | 04:01 |
| VulcanJedi | yes, correct monitor is primary | 04:01 |
| DarinMiller | for grins, toggle the primary to other monitor apply then toggle back. | 04:02 |
| Froeystrated | hi all | 04:02 |
| Froeystrated | DarinMiller, sintre: hi! So this is from the livecd | 04:03 |
| Froeystrated | proof that it's not a hardware issue | 04:03 |
| sintre | it lives | 04:03 |
| sintre | gj joey | 04:03 |
| VulcanJedi | done | 04:03 |
| sintre | so back up and prepare for new install | 04:03 |
| Froeystrated | I made one dvd, and that ended up having physical media errors so I made anothe rone | 04:03 |
| DarinMiller | regardless, try this trick: right click on title bar and select "more options" | 04:03 |
| sintre | because we' | 04:03 |
| Froeystrated | what because we | 04:03 |
| DarinMiller | l^More Actions | 04:03 |
| sintre | can't figure out ho to fix current one | 04:04 |
| Froeystrated | sintre: I'd rather not have to make customizations to the OS again... argh | 04:04 |
| sintre | :) | 04:04 |
| Froeystrated | oh | 04:04 |
| DarinMiller | good to hear Froeystrated. I still with we could fix your problem without a slegehammer reinstall, but I am out of ideas. | 04:04 |
| Froeystrated | and the graphics doesn't work | 04:04 |
| Froeystrated | I ahve nvidia here. | 04:04 |
| Froeystrated | DarinMiller: aye | 04:04 |
| Froeystrated | thanks | 04:04 |
| sintre | yea lets give it one more shot | 04:05 |
| DarinMiller | live cd does not have Nvidia proprietary drivers. | 04:05 |
| Froeystrated | but X won't show because it's nvidia | 04:05 |
| Froeystrated | yep | 04:05 |
| Froeystrated | DarinMiller: fuck me, rioght? | 04:05 |
| Froeystrated | *right | 04:05 |
| Froeystrated | sudo atp-get install nvidia-367 | 04:05 |
| Froeystrated | er | 04:05 |
| Froeystrated | then restrtr X somehow | 04:05 |
| Froeystrated | and hope it loads nvidia drivers? | 04:05 |
| Froeystrated | dunno. | 04:05 |
| Froeystrated | god this is so retarded that it doesn't work. | 04:06 |
| DarinMiller | nvidia requires restart so live installing nvidia drivers will not persist through reboot. | 04:06 |
| Froeystrated | every single upgrade of kubuntu breaks something stupid. | 04:06 |
| Froeystrated | DarinMiller: oh lovely :) | 04:06 |
| VulcanJedi | noted | 04:06 |
| Froeystrated | upgrading is never easy for me | 04:06 |
| Froeystrated | always something fundamental has to break, argh | 04:06 |
| DarinMiller | VulcanJedi: sorry, under more actions, selection special windows settings | 04:07 |
| DarinMiller | On the size and position tab, check the "initial placment" box and select "under mouse" (or whatever you want to try). | 04:08 |
| VulcanJedi | Ooh! I'm going to try smart placement and see what it does | 04:08 |
| VulcanJedi | had no idea there were so many options in that context menu | 04:08 |
| DarinMiller | VulcanJedi: smart placement should be your current behavior unless you changed that in sys settings. | 04:09 |
| VulcanJedi | really? then why is default its own option? | 04:09 |
| DarinMiller | VulcanJedi: anyways, many options in there, but sadly, I don't see a remember last position option. | 04:10 |
| DarinMiller | check sys setting -> win manag -> win behavior -> advanced tab | 04:11 |
| VulcanJedi | oh, hey | 04:11 |
| DarinMiller | I set ff to open with meta+f and set ff win settings to open under the mouse. works as advertised. | 04:13 |
| VulcanJedi | well, at least i have a fun new toolbox to play with, thx | 04:13 |
| DarinMiller | np :) | 04:13 |
| DarinMiller | Froeystrated: How much HD space do you have? | 04:14 |
| sintre | 64 gigs ram should = like 4 2 tb hdds :) | 04:15 |
| sintre | but didn't ask him about hdd space , oops | 04:15 |
| VulcanJedi | well, for one reason or the other, firefox is now opening on primary, so that's good | 04:15 |
| VulcanJedi | take that, kubuntu! | 04:15 |
| sintre | epsiode 2 kubuntu strikes back cometing to a install near you soon | 04:16 |
| DarinMiller | VulcanJedi: I have seen funny issues where some strange setting are stuck until the certain things are toggled. That why I recommended toggling the primary monitor as I had an issue on 16.04. | 04:17 |
| DarinMiller | Oh, oh he left. | 04:18 |
| sintre | he'll problally be back | 04:19 |
| sintre | i guess | 04:19 |
| sintre | he's been at it for two days about now | 04:19 |
| Roey | hi | 04:23 |
| sintre | wb | 04:23 |
| Roey | rebooted. | 04:23 |
| Roey | so here is my catch 22 | 04:23 |
| Roey | I can boot off a livecd | 04:23 |
| DarinMiller | ok | 04:23 |
| Roey | but X wont' work because of nvidia drivers missing. | 04:23 |
| sintre | ok darin can talk you thru doing a side by install with current install | 04:23 |
| Roey | I can jump off a bridge but that won't do anything to solve the problem | 04:23 |
| sintre | which then can give you time to work on new install while you save stuff | 04:23 |
| DarinMiller | Roey do you know if /home is it's own partition? | 04:24 |
| Roey | actually scratch that. A friend of mine did jump off a bridge, so that's not funny. | 04:24 |
| sintre | atleas then you can cess a webpage | 04:24 |
| Roey | DarinMiller: Yeah I was looking at th e mount table | 04:24 |
| Roey | /home, /arch are each in their own partitions | 04:24 |
| DarinMiller | df -l | 04:24 |
| VulcanJedi | DarinMiller, yup, that's going to be my goto fix for display-related issues now, toggle the relevant setting and see if it works | 04:24 |
| DarinMiller | shows /home as it's own partition? | 04:25 |
| Roey | DarinMiller: you know I'd pastebin it but I can't load the pastebin site | 04:25 |
| Roey | DarinMiller: correct | 04:25 |
| Roey | I can obliterate / and /home and /arch would still be there | 04:25 |
| Roey | or would they? it's a btrfs installation. | 04:26 |
| DarinMiller | Wait, so if you know about setting up home as it's own partition, I assume you know you can re-install without reformatting home, yes? | 04:26 |
| Roey | DarinMiller: right | 04:26 |
| Roey | the only thing--is that I don't have a backup here. | 04:26 |
| Roey | I mean I do. | 04:26 |
| Roey | But I can't get the disk drive to work for some reason. | 04:26 |
| DarinMiller | what is in root that requires backup? | 04:26 |
| Roey | well just my /home and /arch | 04:26 |
| Roey | /arch is where I keep movies, music, etc. | 04:26 |
| Roey | and even still, I can't load x | 04:27 |
| Roey | *X | 04:27 |
| DarinMiller | mind sharing your df listing? df -l | pastebinit | 04:29 |
| DarinMiller | http://pastebin.com/00YAAUUZ <- Mine looks like this. | 04:29 |
| Roey | what's pastebinit, a command? I don't appear to have it. | 04:29 |
| Roey | and again--I can't resolve hostnames so I can't do this | 04:29 |
| Roey | I can't load the site | 04:29 |
| DarinMiller | sudo apt install pastebinit | 04:29 |
| Roey | connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com... | 04:30 |
| Roey | um | 04:30 |
| Roey | it's not connecting | 04:30 |
| Roey | do you get it? | 04:30 |
| Roey | I can't look up anything | 04:30 |
| DarinMiller | you can pipe command like output and create quick share link to terminal output. | 04:30 |
| Roey | here | 04:30 |
| Roey | pm me | 04:30 |
| Roey | i"ll paste there. | 04:30 |
| Roey | how about that? | 04:30 |
| DarinMiller | ok | 04:30 |
| Roey | hihi | 04:36 |
| sintre | hi again | 04:36 |
| sintre | so decide how your gonna go forward? | 04:36 |
| Roey | er | 04:36 |
| Roey | I have no idea. | 04:36 |
| sintre | btw can you right click on desktop | 04:38 |
| sintre | and add widgets | 04:38 |
| sintre | if so drag a network over onto desktop it probally has no icon in the menu on left side but it'll be there | 04:38 |
| sintre | then right click on it | 04:38 |
| sintre | then you can try change the settings on your connection | 04:39 |
| sintre | once you se your connection right click and hit edit | 04:39 |
| Roey | sintre: oh, ok | 04:49 |
| Roey | hi | 04:49 |
| Roey | ok I deactivated Network1 and then re-activated it | 04:50 |
| Roey | sintre: ping doesn't work still | 04:50 |
| sintre | well now you have access yto settings is darin still around | 04:51 |
| Roey | yeah we're chatting in a PM actually | 04:51 |
| sintre | i think ipv6 can be deactivated from there | 04:51 |
| Roey | we tried deactivating ipv6 through the commandline, that didn't sovle it | 04:51 |
| sintre | hmm , some great network guys but you gotta be on same time as them to grab thier attention and help | 04:53 |
| sintre | i honestly would just get rdy for new install side by side | 04:53 |
| Roey | ah | 04:53 |
| Roey | sure | 04:53 |
| Roey | I don't want to reinstall though | 04:53 |
| Roey | for a few reasons: | 04:53 |
| Roey | 1) I don't want to clobber my BTRFS partitions | 04:53 |
| sintre | this is almost two days not being able to even get a webpage silly | 04:53 |
| Roey | because it's all one partition that is subpartitioned | 04:53 |
| Roey | 2) I made custom edits to config files and don't want to clobber them with a re-installation | 04:54 |
| sintre | you can save copies of config files | 04:54 |
| sintre | its up to you but honestly , if at this point we've exuasted all option that i know of | 04:54 |
| sintre | or you can have a gimp useless os tht can rresolve websites | 04:55 |
| sintre | i mean thats your call , i don't think anybody else is gonna come up with magic answer | 04:55 |
| sintre | its time spent trouble shooting and hoping or time spent reinstalling and repairing | 04:56 |
| sintre | thing is we can't figure out hoew to repair this | 04:56 |
| Roey | sintre: I understand where you're coming from | 05:05 |
| Roey | DarinMiller, sintre: good night guys :) | 05:49 |
| DarinMiller | gn all | 05:49 |
| sintre | night Roey | 05:49 |
| sintre | might DarinMiller | 05:49 |
| sintre | night :) | 05:49 |
| DarinMiller | :) | 05:49 |
| === KsChoice is now known as phoenixz | ||
| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:23 |
| user|39627 | hi | 10:29 |
| antonio_ | ciao | 12:42 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 13:44 |
| Taggnostr | hello | 15:39 |
| Taggnostr | I'm copying files from my hd to an externa drive, but it seems to be going at <1MBps, is this normal? | 15:39 |
| BluesKaj | hi Taggnostr | 15:40 |
| Taggnostr | I first tried through dolphin, and plasmashell was using 100%+ cpu, now I'm trying with cp, and it still seems slow | 15:41 |
| BluesKaj | is the external drive usb connected ?, if so make sure it's connected to the 3.0 | 15:41 |
| Taggnostr | it's usb, and I connected it to the blue usb on the back of my pc | 15:41 |
| Taggnostr | even usb 2 should transfer at 60MB/s | 15:42 |
| BluesKaj | Taggnostr, actually it shoud be faster thru dolphin | 15:43 |
| Taggnostr | should I stop cp and try again through dolphin? | 15:43 |
| BluesKaj | Taggnostr, yes | 15:43 |
| Taggnostr | let's see | 15:44 |
| BluesKaj | you should see the external drive listed in the dolphin device list on the left | 15:44 |
| Taggnostr | the tray loading icon says 300KiB/s | 15:45 |
| Taggnostr | and plasmashell is using ~115% cpu (from top) | 15:45 |
| Taggnostr | I think this already happened a few times in the past, sometimes it gets really slow, sometimes it's fast | 15:46 |
| BluesKaj | Taggnostr, odd that plasmashell is using so much cpu, perhaps an update and upgrade are in order | 15:49 |
| Taggnostr | should be up to date | 15:49 |
| BluesKaj | I just copied 3Gig media file from my outboard to my home dir in less than 30 secs, but I use an esata to sata connection | 15:51 |
| Taggnostr | that's what usually happens for me as well, but some times it's slow | 15:52 |
| BluesKaj | you must have some other processes using up cpu | 15:52 |
| Taggnostr | plasmashell? it starts eating cpu as soon as I start copying | 15:53 |
| BluesKaj | it shouldn'r | 15:53 |
| Taggnostr | I'll try to copy the subdirs one by one and see if it changes anything | 15:55 |
| BluesKaj | oops, my ususally reliable vpn server went down | 16:08 |
| Taggnostr | I'll try to restart and see if it gets any better | 16:08 |
| BluesKaj | Taggnostr, which kubuntu are you running? | 16:09 |
| acheronuk | Taggnostr: what version of plasma do you have? | 16:09 |
| Taggnostr | 16.10 | 16:10 |
| Taggnostr | plasmashell 5.7.5 | 16:10 |
| Taggnostr | brb | 16:10 |
| acheronuk | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356479 | 16:16 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 356479 in general "plasmashell uses 100% CPU when there is an animation in the task bar" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 16:16 |
| acheronuk | at least on the CPU side, may be that ^^^^ | 16:16 |
| acheronuk | and that is hopefully fixed in the plasma 5.8.x backports in backports ppa | 16:17 |
| Taggnostr | that did the trick, copying at ~30MB/s now | 16:17 |
| acheronuk | though I can't confirm that 100%, as I was never able to reproduce that bug to start with | 16:17 |
| acheronuk | Taggnostr: ok. so a transient issue then | 16:17 |
| Taggnostr | yes, it comes and goes | 16:18 |
| Taggnostr | I'm not even sure that's the issue, I think I got similar problems when I had programs writing on the disk | 16:18 |
| Taggnostr | like a videocapture software, sometimes when I stopped it it would be ready immediately, other times it would take a few minutes to write the file before it was ready | 16:19 |
| acheronuk | possible not the same then | 16:19 |
| Taggnostr | the files had comparable sizes, and I don't remember it having any tray animation | 16:19 |
| Taggnostr | I just hope it's not an hardware issue | 16:19 |
| Taggnostr | FTR now plasmashell is around ~60%, but the writing is going fast | 16:20 |
| Taggnostr | there's also a mount.ntfs using 15-50% | 16:22 |
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| BluesKaj | !info ext4 | 17:34 |
| ubottu | Package ext4 does not exist in yakkety | 17:34 |
| BluesKaj | !info extfs | 17:34 |
| ubottu | Package extfs does not exist in yakkety | 17:34 |
| kiendeleo | So I just set up my laptop with Kubuntu after 10+ years of using Ubuntu as my primary OS for my work computers. I set up Two-Factor authentication for sudo and login and it apears that the Plasma login doesn't support entering the unlock code and a password. Is ther a way to add this feature? | 18:01 |
| kiendeleo | *there | 18:02 |
| BluesKaj | kiendeleo, what do you mean, two factor authentication ? | 18:05 |
| kiendeleo | I set it up so that I have to enter a code and a password using the "google-authenticator" package | 18:06 |
| BluesKaj | never heard of that as an authenticator for Kubuntu | 18:08 |
| kiendeleo | It works great on servers and compand line stuff (ssh, etc.) but I would like to get it set up so I have to have the authenticator to log in to the machine as well | 18:09 |
| BluesKaj | in sddm or grub? | 18:11 |
| kiendeleo | ssdm | 18:12 |
| kiendeleo | *sddm | 18:13 |
| BluesKaj | I guess you could edit /etc/sddm.conf | 18:14 |
| kiendeleo | that file doesn't exist, I am runnign 16.10 if that chnages anything | 18:17 |
| BluesKaj | kiendeleo, /etc/sddm.conf exists here on 16.10..I have it open | 18:21 |
| kiendeleo | I have an sddm folder in /etc and it contains a file Xsession in it | 18:23 |
| kiendeleo | no sddm.conf | 18:24 |
| BluesKaj | look in dolhin root then etc, then a textfile sddm.conf | 18:26 |
| BluesKaj | or in the run command , /etc/sddm.conf | 18:28 |
| kiendeleo | "bash: /etc/sddm.conf: No such file or directory" | 18:28 |
| BluesKaj | kiendeleo, alt+f2, kdesudo kate /etc/sddm.conf | 18:30 |
| kiendeleo | It opened a blank file saying it is new | 18:31 |
| kiendeleo | I am guessing that kate is simular to Gedit in Ubuntu | 18:32 |
| BluesKaj | yes | 18:32 |
| BluesKaj | odd because I have it as a plain textfile here and on my laptop | 18:35 |
| kiendeleo | definatly odd, This is a fresh instal off of the latest Iso (Downloaded yesterday) were there recent changes to how the display manager works? | 18:36 |
| BluesKaj | kiendeleo, https://paste.kde.org/pcocopnxp | 18:39 |
| BluesKaj | kiendeleo, sddm is the default kubuntu DM afaik | 18:40 |
| kiendeleo | It that what is supposed to be in that file? | 18:40 |
| BluesKaj | good question :-) | 18:41 |
| BluesKaj | I don't edit many conf files..mainly media conf files | 18:42 |
| kiendeleo | I guess I'll be reading a plethora of manpages today LOL | 18:43 |
| user|61838 | hello, I am tryingng to install expressvpn on kubuntu 16.10, but I need to install initscripts. can anyone help me troubleshoot this issue? | 18:44 |
| BluesKaj | kiendeleo, good luck, most man pages are too arcane for my ' knowledge base ' | 18:45 |
| BluesKaj | you probly need to install openvpn user|61838 | 18:45 |
| user|61838 | I did | 18:45 |
| user|61838 | When i try to connect manually, my connection is timed out | 18:46 |
| kiendeleo | BluesKaj, thanks for your help | 18:47 |
| BluesKaj | user|61838, did expressvpn provide you with .ovpn and certs for the openvpn file | 18:47 |
| user|61838 | When i try to use the app provided by expressvpn I get the initscripts error | 18:47 |
| user|61838 | I will paste the error I am getting | 18:48 |
| BluesKaj | user|61838, i asked you a question plase answer that first | 18:49 |
| user|61838 | yes they did | 18:50 |
| BluesKaj | also did you install network-manager-openvpn | 18:51 |
| user|61838 | Yes I installed network-manager-openvpn | 18:52 |
| BluesKaj | user|61838, did you copy the crt and .ovvpn files to /etc/openvpn/ | 18:53 |
| user|61838 | No I did not, should I do that now? | 18:54 |
| BluesKaj | us, depends did you also download and install an sh file or run file with a small gui as part of the expressvpn package | 18:56 |
| BluesKaj | user|61838,^ | 18:56 |
| user|61838 | I did, however, I could not install the file because I am missing the "initscripts" dependency | 18:57 |
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| BluesKaj | ok let's see the eroor | 18:58 |
| user|61838 | https://goo.gl/ELqRq0 I used the paste feature, not to sure how it works lol | 18:59 |
| BluesKaj | user did you i9nstall the replacements suggested in line 5? | 19:00 |
| BluesKaj | install | 19:00 |
| BluesKaj | user|61838,^ | 19:01 |
| user|61838 | BluesKaj, no I did not, I am a novice linux user, if you have the time would you walk me through the process? | 19:02 |
| BluesKaj | user|61838, open a terminal, the copy and paste this, sudo apt install util-linux util-linux:i386 sysvinit-utils:i386 sysvinit-utils , then enter | 19:04 |
| BluesKaj | the=then | 19:04 |
| user|61838 | BluesKaj, done, want me to post the results? | 19:05 |
| BluesKaj | no errors? | 19:06 |
| BluesKaj | dependency errors etc | 19:07 |
| user|61838 | yes there were errors | 19:07 |
| BluesKaj | ok post | 19:08 |
| user|61838 | https://goo.gl/g9djYb | 19:09 |
| BluesKaj | bummer I should have thought of this elemntary command first , sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade , | 19:10 |
| user|61838 | ok one sec | 19:11 |
| BluesKaj | user|61838, sudo dpkg --configure -a | 19:11 |
| user|61838 | I ran it | 19:11 |
| BluesKaj | now the dpkg command above | 19:12 |
| user|61838 | I ran it | 19:13 |
| user|61838 | nothing so far | 19:13 |
| BluesKaj | so it returned to the prompt without any output | 19:14 |
| user|61838 | yes | 19:14 |
| BluesKaj | ok, now run sudo apt -f install | 19:15 |
| user|61838 | all three results returned 0 | 19:16 |
| BluesKaj | user|61838, check /etc/openvpn to see if the crts and .ovpn files are there | 19:18 |
| user|61838 | Blueskaj, No they are not in the etc/openvpn folder | 19:19 |
| BluesKaj | topen dolphin then choose root then navigate to /etc/then openvpn | 19:19 |
| user|61838 | I did | 19:19 |
| BluesKaj | ok, are the crt and .ovpn files in your Downloads ? | 19:20 |
| user|61838 | yes | 19:20 |
| BluesKaj | you'll need root permission so do, alt+F2 , then, kdesudo dolphin /etc/openvpn and paste the files there | 19:22 |
| user|61838 | ok, I pasted them there | 19:24 |
| BluesKaj | now reboot | 19:24 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: You do know you can just point openvpn (the cli anyways) to the .ovpn file? | 19:25 |
| BluesKaj | yes i do that myself , but I'm not using NM | 19:28 |
| BluesKaj | oh you mean inorder to copy the files...\ | 19:28 |
| BluesKaj | old habits and all that | 19:28 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, thanks for the reminder | 19:29 |
| user|67015 | BluesKaj, Im back | 19:30 |
| lordievader | No, as in "sudo openvpn <path-to-.ovpn" | 19:30 |
| user|67015 | I guess I should pick an username lol | 19:30 |
| BluesKaj | user|67015, a nick would be good | 19:31 |
| === user|67015 is now known as Duvah89 | ||
| Duvah89 | ok, so I restarted my computer, the files are in the etc/openvpn folder, what do i do now | 19:31 |
| BluesKaj | sorry my vpn got disconnected | 19:38 |
| BluesKaj | I'll repeat lordievader, my vpn service requires a username and pw in the commnad, i have it aliased in bash-aliases so i don't have type a long command to connect | 19:38 |
| BluesKaj | the command has to point to /etc/openvpn/login.txt for username and pw, so it's a bit complicated | 19:44 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: Your .ovpn config can point to that too. I got a similar setup on a vm. The openvpn service is started on boot. VPN requires username and password, but the config takes care of that. | 19:45 |
| BluesKaj | i don't use vpn all the time, just for torrents and irc mostly | 19:46 |
| BluesKaj | Duvah89, is your vpn connecting? | 20:14 |
| Duvah89 | BluesKaj, sorry no it is not, I had to step away from my desk, my apologies. | 20:23 |
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| Roey | hello all | 21:17 |
| Roey | lordievader: o/ | 21:17 |
| Roey | .tell | 22:06 |
| Roey | doh. | 22:06 |
| sintre | Roey> hey there good day | 22:09 |
| sintre | so how is the jounrey going :) | 22:09 |
| Roey | oh man | 22:11 |
| Roey | I fixed it. | 22:11 |
| Roey | sintre: I still have to breathe heavily, one moment | 22:11 |
| sintre | ok , i gotta hear this :) | 22:12 |
| Roey | sintre: this pisses me off so much, like being hit in the face with a shiny gold brick wrapped in a thin rind of lemon | 22:16 |
| sintre | err , i can imagine | 22:17 |
| sintre | so what was the finaly fix | 22:17 |
| Roey | getting rid of /etc/hosts (the one from https://hosts-file.net/?s=Download) and replacing it with the stock hosts file | 22:18 |
| Roey | I tried also the newest version of that file and got the same error | 22:18 |
| Roey | so the system has a problem reading that hosts file | 22:18 |
| sintre | where did you grab the host file from live cd? | 22:18 |
| Roey | sintre: see here: https://superuser.com/questions/704785/ping-cant-resolve-hostname-but-nslookup-can | 22:19 |
| Roey | sintre: I retained the stock hosts file when I installed that giant hostsfile from the net | 22:20 |
| Roey | (I just moved it to /etc/hosts.stock) | 22:20 |
| sintre | god dman | 22:20 |
| Roey | so now I copied that stock sucker back into /etc/hosts, and it works. | 22:20 |
| sintre | you can report this lil problem and work around on forums or maybe in kubuntu-devel with this problem | 22:21 |
| sintre | but i could be a problem above them | 22:21 |
| sintre | i certainly book marked that page | 22:21 |
| Roey | thank you :) | 22:21 |
| Roey | thank you *so* *so* *so* much | 22:22 |
| sintre | certainly thx for your stubborness | 22:22 |
| Roey | ;) | 22:22 |
| sintre | darin is gonna love to hear the news | 22:22 |
| Roey | sintre: I mean that web page went thorugh all of the ideas we had | 22:22 |
| Roey | and the last one... made me realize that yes, I had changed /etc/hosts (with that one from the net that blocks advertisement sites) | 22:23 |
| sintre | certainly get word out there best you can i'll do the same | 22:23 |
| Roey | ok | 22:23 |
| Roey | is there a .tell here | 22:23 |
| Roey | .tell | 22:23 |
| Roey | doh | 22:23 |
| Roey | would have wnated to let Darin know | 22:23 |
| sintre | hhe normally gets on later in the evening i'll let you tell him :) | 22:23 |
| Roey | so I think that the system has an isuse trying to read that 'net hosts file. | 22:23 |
| Roey | :) | 22:23 |
| Roey | sintre: can you do me a favor | 22:23 |
| Roey | a big favor | 22:23 |
| sintre | whats that | 22:23 |
| Roey | do you have a test environment | 22:23 |
| sintre | na sry | 22:24 |
| Roey | can you try downloading that file and after isntallig it into /etc/hosts, try and ping something? | 22:24 |
| sintre | later when my other pc if free i can | 22:24 |
| sintre | its in use atm | 22:24 |
| sintre | this is my pribary system i'm on atm | 22:25 |
| sintre | primary bla | 22:25 |
| sintre | my older notebook hooked up to everything hardwired | 22:25 |
| Roey | ooh I like pribaries | 22:26 |
| Roey | antioxidants, you know | 22:26 |
| Roey | sintre: heh | 22:26 |
| sintre | lol | 22:26 |
| Roey | so in short I think 16.04 was fine with that hostsfile from https://hosts-file.net/?s=Download but 16.10 is not. | 22:27 |
| sintre | you'd be supposed at some of my epic mtypos | 22:27 |
| sintre | i once assert to the channel i was going to grab some ravioli for dinner instead of leving it in my panty | 22:27 |
| sintre | they're loginand here but pretty active in kubuntu-devel atm | 22:28 |
| sintre | if they can fix it they will | 22:28 |
| sintre | fif its not just uniwue to you | 22:28 |
| sintre | unique | 22:28 |
| Roey | hahahaha | 22:29 |
| Roey | fif | 22:29 |
| Roey | ? | 22:29 |
| Roey | sintre: aye | 22:30 |
| Roey | sintre: are you familiar with hostfile.net? | 22:30 |
| Roey | they give you a hostfile that blocks plenty of advertisement sites | 22:30 |
| sintre | not really | 22:30 |
| sintre | ohh so you had something previously installed | 22:30 |
| sintre | custom | 22:30 |
| sintre | before yupgrade? | 22:30 |
| Roey | correct | 22:32 |
| sintre | well then we found the culprit | 22:33 |
| Roey | aye! | 22:33 |
| Roey | sure did. | 22:33 |
| Roey | god | 22:35 |
| Roey | I feel like I've just come out of the bathroom and my butt feels numb from sitting so long | 22:35 |
| Roey | but I got it. | 22:35 |
| sintre | yea man certainy congratz 100 times | 22:36 |
| Roey | heh | 22:36 |
| Roey | and btw | 22:36 |
| sintre | it always works out like that it seems | 22:36 |
| sintre | last thing you'd could possibly think of | 22:36 |
| Roey | the way they use strace in that link I showed you--that is what I mean by "digging deeper" | 22:36 |
| Roey | solid analytical work | 22:36 |
| Roey | sintre: heh | 22:36 |
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