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[10:26] <CoderEurope> Don't know what to do next - this is how I started off :  Trying to setup VPN on my Ubuntu phone. all I have is email +password + this OVPN file download .... https://www.anonvpn.io/chromeos/setup.html
[10:28] <CoderEurope> Anyone here ?
[10:28] <k1l> so use the network manager to set up the vpn?
[10:28] <CoderEurope> What do I do- I am a noob
[10:30] <k1l> open the network manager, put in the vpn data, connect?
[10:30] <CoderEurope> What do I add the OVPN file ?
[10:30] <CoderEurope> **Where
[10:31] <CoderEurope> back i 5 ....
[10:31] <CoderEurope> ** back in 5 mins ......
[10:39] <CoderEurope> Yes yes .. and ?
[10:39] <CoderEurope> popey, help me crack this will ya, please ? I have really no idea of what I am doing ? ^ look up.
[10:40] <k1l> CoderEurope: where exactly is the issue?
[10:41] <CoderEurope> It says on the ubuntu phone - set up VPM 'manually' wtheck does that mean ?
[10:42] <k1l> that you neeed to enter the details for the vpn connection
[10:42] <neenee> CoderEurope: I answered your question in #ubuntu
[10:42] <neenee> But I think you did not read my reply
[10:42] <CoderEurope> ~I am a total n00ob .... unless you give me the ....
[10:42] <CoderEurope> 'Server'
[10:43] <CoderEurope> 'Port'
[10:43] <CoderEurope> 'Protocol'
[10:43] <k1l> take that from the file you got from your vpn service provider
[10:43] <neenee> open the file in a text editor or import it into network manager.
[10:43] <CoderEurope> How do I do that ?
[10:43] <k1l> open it in a text editor
[10:43] <neenee> nano bla.ovpn ?
[10:43] <CoderEurope> hangon ....
[10:46] <CoderEurope> Where is 'Files' on the ubuntu phone ?
[10:46] <CoderEurope> Do I need the dosbox thiny ?
[10:46] <CoderEurope> **thingy?
[10:46] <neenee> I do not have a Ubuntu phone. consider opening the file on another system
[10:46] <neenee> dosbox is for running dos programs/games/etc
[10:48] <CoderEurope> https://thepasteb.in/p/r0hwPRkMpm5SK
[10:48] <CoderEurope> Okay I opened it in my chromebook ... now what ?
[10:50] <CoderEurope> Still none the wiser :(
[10:50] <neenee> remote = server, port = 443, protocol = udp
[10:52] <CoderEurope> and the certificate ?
[10:52] <CoderEurope> there was more in the paste - but I didn't include that lot.
[10:53] <CoderEurope> Do I justy put 'remote' where it says 'server', then ?
[10:53] <CoderEurope> hello ?
[10:55] <CoderEurope> hello ?
[10:55] <neenee> sorry, I do not have time to hold your hand with this issue. The ovpn file is made up of the values you need. the certificate is in that same file too, pasted at the end. You need to match the fields in the ovpn file with the fields you have in the app you use to connect to the VPN. alternatively, as I mentioned before, you can use Network Manager in regular ubuntu to import the file, display the
[10:55] <neenee> separate values in a more easily readable manner, something I think you would prefer.
[10:56] <neenee> Furthermore, consider asking the party you received the file from for help - I assume they need to you connect to their system?
[10:56] <CoderEurope> I am sorry, but this is just too complicated for the average user ....
[10:56] <CoderEurope> I asked weeks ago - no response.
[10:57] <neenee> if you have an ubuntu system, import it into network manager. though it seems odd ubunty phone would not have network manager as well.
[10:58] <CoderEurope> I dont know how to 'import to network manager' thou
[10:59] <CoderEurope> hello ?
[10:59] <neenee> you probably need network-manager-openvpn
[10:59] <CoderEurope> what do I type into the terminal (exactly) ????
[11:01] <CoderEurope> hello ?
[11:13] <CoderEurope> Come on Ubuntu Touch - I cannot afford to waste  hours waiting for a response !
[11:16] <brunch875> I've never used VPNs before, but isn't there a section under system settings to configure it?
[11:16] <CoderEurope> Problem: I have an OVPN certificate file (http://ow.ly/rObC30877xD) email + password | How the hell do I get it to work on my Ubuntu phone ?
[11:16] <popey> hm?
[11:16] <CoderEurope> Hiya popey
[11:16] <popey> hello
[11:16] <CoderEurope> Phew ...
[11:17]  * CoderEurope breates a sigh of relief....
[11:18] <CoderEurope> popey, problem highlighted moments ago ... cheers for the help.
[11:18] <popey> looking
[11:19] <CoderEurope> I have 'opened' the OVPN file on my chromebook with 'Caret' editor .. looks legit n'all.
[11:20] <popey> I suspect you need to type the details in manually.
[11:20] <CoderEurope> popey, You'll hate me again, soon. But thanks - if you feel like giving up, then just say so (and we'll leave it open) cheers.
[11:20] <popey> I have never imported an ovpn file, and I don't think we support that
[11:20] <popey> patience, I have just booted a phone to look
[11:20] <CoderEurope> okay - no worries.
[11:21] <CoderEurope> What hapened to the weekly Q&A's BTWay >
[11:21] <CoderEurope> **BTWay ?
[11:21] <popey> postponed over xmas
[11:21] <CoderEurope> sure
[11:21] <popey> re-doing them soon, differently
[11:21] <popey> so, I don't think you can import that file into the phone
[11:21] <CoderEurope> QnA rebbot - like it.
[11:21] <popey> i think you have to get the details from the file and manually add it
[11:22] <CoderEurope> yeah thought so - did you open the file ?
[11:22] <popey> yes
[11:22] <CoderEurope> or can you teleport into my phone & diy ?
[11:22] <popey> for example our dialog asks for the ca cert and the key
[11:22] <popey> which are inside that file, which could be extracted to separate files
[11:23] <popey> and the server name and port is in the file too
[11:23] <CoderEurope> is the server 196.52.17.193 443 ?
[11:23] <popey> 443 is the port
[11:23] <CoderEurope> I guess it is port 443 :)
[11:23] <CoderEurope> yep.
[11:24] <popey> key starts on line 147 of the file and ends on line 174
[11:24] <brunch875> non-inclusive, I take
[11:24] <popey> ca cert is from lines 23-49
[11:25] <popey> and client cert is 52-144
[11:25] <popey> no, inclusive
[11:25] <popey> cut out the </ca> and <cert> tags
[11:25] <popey> cipher is AES-128-CBC
[11:25] <popey> etc, it's all in that file
[11:25] <popey> just needs picking out
[11:26] <CoderEurope> okay - trying - how do I export to ubuntu phone (already downloaded to phone)
[11:26] <popey> i dont understand the question, export?
[11:26] <CoderEurope> Do I use nano for that lot ?
[11:26] <brunch875> CoderEurope: you have to open it in a text editor and manually extract
[11:26] <popey> yeah, could use nano to edit the file
[11:27] <popey> I'd make 3 copies of it, one called client, one called ca and one called key
[11:27] <CoderEurope> Crumbs, popey - this is really hard cheddar stuff :)
[11:27] <popey> and edit each one down from the master file
[11:27] <CoderEurope> okay
[11:27] <popey> then in the vpn config screen you tap the button, go find each file
[11:28] <CoderEurope> Where is stuff saved for Ubuntu browser in phone ?
[11:28] <brunch875> You mean where downloads are put?
[11:28] <CoderEurope> yeah
[11:28] <brunch875> in ~/Downloads
[11:28] <CoderEurope> okay
[11:28] <brunch875> unless specified otherwise
[11:30] <CoderEurope> I never 'really' used nano, before ... how do I copy  & paste to a new file ?
[11:30] <popey> nah, just copy on the command line
[11:30] <popey> cp anonvpn cert
[11:30] <popey> cp anonvpn ca
[11:30] <popey> cp anonvpn key
[11:30] <popey> then edit each one down
[11:31] <CoderEurope> I am stuck in nano .. no idea what I am doing now - cannot move the cursor or anything :(
[11:31] <CoderEurope> could just exit I guess
[11:33] <popey> yeah, might be a bit painful, easier to edit on a real computer
[11:34] <CoderEurope> What does cp do again ?
[11:34] <popey> copy
[11:34] <brunch875> copy
[11:35] <CoderEurope> Tell ya what - I'll do it on the chromebook & import it .. somehow ...
[11:38] <CoderEurope> What file format should I save it as ?
[11:38] <brunch875> plain text
[11:38] <CoderEurope> okay
[11:42] <brunch875> sed -n '23,49p' < anonvpn.ovpn > ca
[11:42] <brunch875> sed -n '52,144p' < anonvpn.ovpn > cert
[11:42] <brunch875> sed -n '147,174p' < anonvpn.ovpn > key
[11:42] <brunch875> that's if I understood popey correctly
[11:43] <CoderEurope> Yeah I did it on my chromebook.
[11:44] <CoderEurope> What the quickest way to get a txt file onto an Ubuntu phone 'as an download' ?
[11:44] <brunch875> the same way you'd do with android, plugging it to your computer with an USB
[11:45] <brunch875> or send an email to yourself
[11:45] <CoderEurope> I am using a chrome book !
[11:45] <CoderEurope> I dont have email set up !
[11:45] <CoderEurope> oh maybe i do ...
[11:45] <CoderEurope> gmail ...
[11:46] <brunch875> I can also offer you super-original solutions but that'd be making things complicated for no reason
[11:50] <popey> the phone ships with netcat :)
[11:50] <CoderEurope> I cannot download 'draft' attachments from my phone ... trying again ...
[11:50] <brunch875> popey: I'd recommend that but then... why not use sed instead in that case? :P
[11:51] <CoderEurope> Can someone give me an gmail so that they can send on 'back to me' ?
[11:51] <brunch875> add @gmail.com to my nickname and you've got it
[11:51] <CoderEurope> okay ....
[11:52] <CoderEurope> sent ...
[11:52] <popey> you can send mail to yourself :)
[11:52] <CoderEurope> please reply plus bitcoins - or I shall send in the cat pics !
[11:53] <brunch875> returned
[11:53] <CoderEurope> oh okay, cheers
[11:54] <CoderEurope> got them \o/
[11:55] <CoderEurope> Is it 'Password with Certificates' for Autho type ?
[11:56] <popey> just certificates I think
[11:56] <popey> i assume you don't have a password?
[11:56] <brunch875> yes, I think so too
[11:57] <popey> oh, looks like anonvpn use passwords
[11:57] <popey> https://www.anonvpn.io/chromeos/setup.html according to that
[11:57] <CoderEurope> I do so have a password - it is based on biscuits !
[11:58] <CoderEurope> Whats the 'Key password' bit all about ?
[11:59] <CoderEurope> & with the CA cert~ Do I need 'Use additional TLS authentication or Verify peer certificate ?
[12:00] <brunch875> some keys need unlocking with a password. Leave it blank
[12:00] <brunch875> I would test it without ticking those boxes, see if it works
[12:04] <CoderEurope> okay cheers.
[12:04] <CoderEurope> do i need to 'compress data' ?
[12:08] <CoderEurope> It has come up with a VPN is setup notice ... I just quit it.
[12:09] <CoderEurope> I shall give it 15 minutes & see if I am American now ......
[12:09]  * CoderEurope goes to find a Trump/ton hat ....
[12:17] <CoderEurope> Well that didn't work as planned :D
[12:18] <CoderEurope> I save the files as .txt - is that right ?
[12:22] <CoderEurope> How do I turn off 'predictive text' on Ubuntu touch - its doing my head in !
[12:23] <brunch875> check settings
[12:23] <brunch875> no need to add a .txt to the files
[12:24] <CoderEurope> How do I stop Ubuntu phone turning off every 10 seconds ?
[12:24] <CoderEurope> Oh phooey I did the files wrong then.
[12:27] <brunch875> Why do you think so?
[12:28] <brunch875> the extension isn't necessary but it shouldn't matter
[12:31] <CoderEurope> Well I tried it again - and it said the 'secrets had failed' so I give up !
[12:32] <CoderEurope> I am not paying another $50 for 'lifetime VPN' when I cannot even get it to work.
[12:32] <brunch875> you might want to contact anonVPN on the details
[12:32] <CoderEurope> Tried.
[12:32] <CoderEurope> A week ago.
[12:32] <CoderEurope> Support is abismal
[12:33] <brunch875> I see... that is most unfortunate.
[12:33] <CoderEurope> well it is Ubuntu !
[12:33] <CoderEurope> You didn't expect it to actually work, did you ?
[12:34] <brunch875> why wouldn't it? Configuring these kind of things is easier on ubuntu
[12:34] <brunch875> I remember having to use TTLS for my college's wifi and on windows I had to download some program to make it work
[12:34] <CoderEurope> I need to fund the bug that allows for OVPN file support, I guess ....... where is it exactly ?
[12:35] <CoderEurope> back in 5 ... please find that bug for me (?) thanks.
[12:45] <CoderEurope> no one found the bug :(
[14:20] <dobey> what
[14:31] <dobey> well there doesn't seem to be a bug report for importing settings from an openvpn config file
[17:57] <dobey> CoderEurope: i don't see any open bug about not having an import from openvpn config file option for vpn on phone/tablet
[18:28] <montvid> hi there
[18:28] <montvid> i wanted to ask a bit about nexus 7 flo
[18:29] <montvid> razor
[18:29] <montvid> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1496756
[18:29] <montvid> it seems i cant install ubuntu because of this bug
[18:30] <montvid> i need to install some files from this guy :https://github.com/ddagunts/UTCWM_N7_patch
[18:30] <montvid> is it safe?
[18:30] <montvid> one guy fixed this problem a year ago...
[18:35] <CoderEurope> montvid: Not sure - basically if it is 'safe' then it should be in the archives already. Look right and ask p o p e y
[18:36] <montvid> thanks, will do
[18:37] <montvid> it's basically no one having a new nexus 7 flo razor can install ubuntu so sad...
[18:43] <CoderEurope> montvid: I take it - this is not the Nexus 7 -2013 ; but just the Nexus 7 , then ?
[18:45] <montvid> Nexus 7 -2013
[18:45] <montvid> bought in 2016
[18:45] <montvid> wifi version
[18:47] <montvid> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1499636
[18:48] <dobey> well "safe" and "correct" are not necessarily the same thing
[18:48] <dobey> the change might be ok and work fine, but i'm not sure it's the correct way to support the later revisions of n7
[18:50] <montvid> well the question was raised more than a year ago. It would be nice to have a way to install ubuntu touch
[18:53] <montvid> is there another way to install it?
[18:53] <dobey> the "correct" fix would proabably be to get a port working based on android 5.1 instead of 4.4, for flo, but it's a lot more work than just rebuilding the kernel
[18:53] <montvid> like from here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/vivid/daily-preinstalled/current/
[18:54] <dobey> i don't know if ubports has deb images built with android 5 yet or not
[18:55] <dobey> if so, that might be a workable option though
[18:55] <montvid> but how do you install all those images and a tar.gz file?
[18:56] <dobey> i'm not sure what you're asking
[18:56] <montvid> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/vivid/daily-preinstalled/current/   how to install those files?
[18:56] <dobey> you don't take those files and install them on the device directly
[18:57] <dobey> the ubuntu-device-tool grabs the correct images for a device and flashes them. grabbing the daily-preinstalled tarball isn't going to solve the issue you're asking about
[18:59] <dobey> if you flash ubuntu on, and then build a new boot.img with the patched kernel though, you should be able to flash just the boot.img on with fastboot
[19:00] <montvid> if only i could do that :D
[19:00] <montvid> i mean i don't know how to do that. :)
[19:11] <montvid> i tried this guys patch and it installs ubuntu 15.04 ota 14
[19:14] <popey> nice
[19:20] <montvid> but if you guys are planning to migrate to ubuntu 16.04 that's not that nice :P
[19:22] <dobey> well, it's not just migrating to 16.04. it's migrating to snaps too
[19:22] <montvid> heh i got the kernel info : aosp_flo-userdebug 4.4.2 kot49h 20160330-0939-0ubuntu1`overlay1 test-keys
[19:23] <montvid> is it an ubuntu kernel?
[19:23] <dobey> it's the android kernel with a few patches needed to make ubuntu work on it
[19:25] <montvid> waht is "device image part 20160401.1"  if i may ask? :)
[19:26] <montvid> thanks dobey for your support. Now i just wonder if there is something to be done to fix this :(
[19:28] <dobey> there's the device part, custom part, and preinstalled ubuntu part, iirc. the device part is the part of the flash kit that includes the device-specific bits, iirc (kerenl and android system bits)
[19:28] <dobey> and probably recovery
[19:29] <montvid> the guy patched the boot.img and the recovery.img
[19:30] <montvid> i could check if twrp would work instead of ubuntu recovery. :P
[19:33] <montvid> by the way i asked popey for help and he does not know what to do. Is popey the maintainer of nexus 7 flo?
[19:34] <montvid> does anyone know the maintainer of nexus 7 2013 flo razor?
[19:37] <montvid> maybe the maintainer would have some ideas :)
[19:50] <popey> I don't think there is a maintainer anymore
[19:50] <Eagle357>  Hi guys i've a question about Ubuntu Mate for RPI Zero can you help me ?
[19:51] <dobey> technically there wasn't ever a maintainer for that device, since we've never actually supported it :)
[19:51] <dobey> Eagle357: wrong channel. you want #ubuntu perhaps, or #ubuntu-mate maybe
[19:51] <popey> Eagle357: we don't support the raspberry pi zero
[19:52] <Eagle357> they says i'll go here
[19:52] <montvid> cmon man
[19:52] <popey> it's an unsupported arm rev
[19:52] <montvid> Ubuntu phone images are built for the target devices below. These are built and supported by Canonical with contributions from the wider Ubuntu community.
[19:52] <montvid> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/devices/
[19:52] <montvid> it is officialy supported
[19:52] <dobey> montvid: right. the earlier nexus 7 2013 is supported. the ones where google changed the hardware have not been, or you wouldn't have had a problem flashing it :)
[19:54] <montvid> Poking around the internet (xda, #ubuntu-touch, #ubuntu-kernel) I found that newer Nexus 7 "flo" models, made in/after late 2014 have a different revision to their eMMC controller/hardware/something
[19:55] <montvid> it's just a few lines of code changed :P
[19:55] <montvid> https://github.com/ddagunts/UTCWM_N7_patch
[19:55] <montvid> heh
[19:55] <montvid> oh well
[19:58] <montvid> I guess i have to find this github guy and ask him to build a new kernel for the 16.04 branch in the future...
[19:59] <dobey> like i said earlier. that might "work," but it's not necessarily "correct." those devices never came with android 4.4, and google doesn't support android 4.4 on those devices. if ubports has android 5 based nexus 7 deb images though, they could probably build android 5 flo images too, for it to be supported there
[19:59] <montvid> where could i ask? do you have an email? I am going to search for it now
[20:00] <dobey> ubports.com or #ubports channel here on freenode
[20:01] <dobey> they've been working on getting android 5 based builds working on other devices like nesux 5 and one plus one. i don't know if they did so on deb too or not
[20:38] <montvid> i am talking to a guy on ubports
[20:39] <montvid> he says canonical supports only android 4.4.2 hal
[20:39] <dobey> not entirely true
[20:39] <montvid> so my question is does canonical downgrade meizu and aquaris phones to android 4.4.2?
[20:40] <dobey> aquaris phones came with 4.4
[20:40] <dobey> as did arale
[20:40] <dobey> pro 5 and m10 tablet are both android 5 though
[20:40] <dobey> because android 5 is required for arm64
[20:42] <dobey> the retail devices support was also developed in cooperation with meizu and bq
[21:14] <montvid> may i ask the cutting edge ubuntu touch for flo is in the devel branch?
[21:15] <dobey> no
[21:15] <dobey> devel and devel-proposed should be avoided
[21:15] <dobey> i'm not sure if they're even still getting built
[21:15] <montvid> i got like 5 reps
[21:15] <montvid> ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ubuntu-pd ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ubuntu ubuntu-touch/staging/ubuntu ubuntu-touch/rc/ubuntu ubuntu-touch/devel/krillin.en ubuntu-touch/rc/ubuntu-pd ubuntu-touch/devel/ubuntu
[21:16] <montvid> i am going to try the newest build and see
[21:16] <montvid> but which one is the newest/ :/
[21:16] <dobey> ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ubuntu-pd is probably what you really want on nexus 7
[21:16] <dobey> well, if you want the "newest" bits anyway
[21:19] <montvid> do you know if there is a deadline when canonical will switch to 16.04? or 15 will be going strong for a while?
[21:21] <dobey> there isn't an exact date yet, no; and it won't be a standard OTA update to get it. it will require reflashing any device for which support for snaps/16.04 is provided
[21:21] <dobey> when it's ready/as soon as possible, is the basic answer though.
[21:22] <montvid> ok i found out the devel branch is from 20160222 hehe
[21:32] <montvid> dobey - ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ubuntu-pd is 20160609 old... eh
[21:33] <montvid> ok ill try to find it...
[21:42] <montvid> cmon guys there is a build for nexus 7 2013 on the 4th of january is there realy no maintainer of the device?
[21:46] <popey> asking over and over doesn't make it happen
[21:47] <montvid> ok ;)
[21:49] <montvid> well i am happy some guy from github hacked the problem. at least i can run ubuntu touch with his help.
[23:29] <montvid> thank you, good night. it seems multirom does not work too.