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| TheMuso | Hey willcooke, hey folks. | 08:59 |
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| willcooke | hey TheMuso | 08:59 |
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| Laney | muhahaha | 09:02 |
| seb128 | hey TheMuso willcooke Laney | 09:04 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 09:06 |
| hikiko | Trevinho, bad news | 09:06 |
| hikiko | your fix doesn't fix the segfault :/ or it's another one gnome session related | 09:07 |
| hikiko | if I restart u7 40 times :p | 09:07 |
| hikiko | there was 1 caused by a tex missing in decorations, I've fixed that | 09:07 |
| hikiko | and then I got again the gnome session related | 09:08 |
| Laney | hey seb128 hey davmor2 hey hikiko hey TheMuso hey willcooke!!!!! | 09:08 |
| hikiko | hi Laney seb128 davmor2 TheMuso willcooke flexiondotorg etc | 09:09 |
| hikiko | I am sure I forgot to hi-light someone | 09:09 |
| seb128 | :-) | 09:09 |
| flexiondotorg | Morning hikiko and desktopers | 09:09 |
| flexiondotorg | Hello TheMuso | 09:09 |
| davmor2 | Morning Laney how grim is it up north | 09:09 |
| Laney | davmor2: pretty grim actually | 09:10 |
| Laney | there's been this mist hanging around for like 4 days now | 09:10 |
| ogra_ | mist sounds better than -20C | 09:11 |
| davmor2 | Laney: yeah we got that today | 09:11 |
| Laney | ogra_: nice! | 09:11 |
| ogra_ | well, not anymore but this night was *cold* | 09:11 |
| Laney | although, not sure I've ever actually experienced -20 | 09:12 |
| ogra_ | we have that every few years for a day or two | 09:12 |
| davmor2 | Laney: it's cold you don't want to | 09:12 |
| hikiko | mmm no, Trevinho it seems to be a dbus lambda, different :) | 09:12 |
| hikiko | heh I've experienced -20!!! once, in Greece :p I kno, you 'll never believe me though :p (but we have some regions that get that low temperatures for a few days every few winters :P) | 09:18 |
| happyaron | hey TheMuso willcooke Laney seb128 davmor2 hikiko flexiondotorg ogra_ hikiko | 09:20 |
| hikiko | hi happyaron :) | 09:21 |
| hikiko | and ogra_ | 09:22 |
| ogra_ | :) | 09:22 |
| flexiondotorg | happyaron o/ | 09:24 |
| happyaron | :) | 09:25 |
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| Sweet5hark | hmm, hmm | 10:18 |
| seb128 | good morning Sweet5hark | 10:27 |
| xnox | Sweet5hark, i have a clash for the DF advisory board =( | 10:29 |
| willcooke | hikiko, Trevinho, seb128 - are you guys free for a quick hangout now? | 10:41 |
| willcooke | want to get this low gfx thing sorted asap | 10:41 |
| hikiko | yes | 10:41 |
| Sweet5hark | xnox: huh? | 10:42 |
| xnox | document foundation advisory board | 10:44 |
| * Sweet5hark was distracted by a build system bikeshed on #libreoffice. | 10:45 | |
| Sweet5hark | xnox: ah: clash in the sense of a scheduling conflict? | 10:46 |
| * Sweet5hark is utterly underprepped for that call too. | 10:46 | |
| xnox | yeah | 10:49 |
| Sweet5hark | in other news, my local 5.3.0.1 build finished somehow ... | 11:01 |
| Sweet5hark | dpkg that is. | 11:02 |
| Sweet5hark | while 5.3.0.2 snap looks more curious: success on amd64 \o/ .... | 11:03 |
| Sweet5hark | ... but fail on armhf and i386. | 11:03 |
| Sweet5hark | both with different test fails :/ | 11:05 |
| Sweet5hark | eh, retry. the windows administraitors secret weapon. | 11:06 |
| * flexiondotorg nips out for early lunch | 11:17 | |
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| ricotz | Sweet5hark, hi, please let me know if there is a deb-source-package up | 12:41 |
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| seb128 | willcooke, sorry was at lunch | 12:51 |
| willcooke | seb128, np, i think its ok | 12:51 |
| seb128 | did you have it? I don't think I'm key in that discussion | 12:51 |
| willcooke | ok = in hand | 12:51 |
| seb128 | k | 12:51 |
| seb128 | good! | 12:51 |
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| Trevinho | willcooke: sorry, missed that... | 13:35 |
| willcooke | Trevinho, np. I think hikiko|ln is all set | 13:35 |
| Trevinho | hikiko|ln: did you get any valid stack trace? | 13:35 |
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| hikiko | sorry I was for lunch | 13:36 |
| hikiko | Trevinho, this method doesn't work not even for ccsm (see mail) | 13:37 |
| hikiko | but I discussed with willcooke and I am going to try to fix/extend libcompizconfig to do what I want | 13:37 |
| hikiko | then if I fail we could do a hangout and see next step | 13:37 |
| hikiko | check in a guest env yourself | 13:38 |
| Trevinho | hikiko: the main problem I see with the ini files, is that we're switching to something that loads settings from some .ini configuration, instead of gsetttings | 13:38 |
| Trevinho | and I'm not sure then ccsm how will act, and what profile will really use | 13:39 |
| Trevinho | as writing on Default.ini means making ccsm to use it, instead of the unity(-lowgfx) one | 13:39 |
| Trevinho | So... To me, if that change doesn't work, it will on reload... Which we might still trigger using upstart/systemd in case... | 13:40 |
| hikiko | i kno | 13:41 |
| hikiko | I changed that | 13:41 |
| hikiko | it still doesnt work | 13:41 |
| hikiko | ccsSetBackend fixes that | 13:41 |
| hikiko | I ve found something else worth investigating now | 13:42 |
| hikiko | basically I am looking at the code that loads the Default.ini | 13:42 |
| Trevinho | hikiko: the thing is that if that setProfile doesn't work, it would be worth understanding why it's that... | 13:42 |
| hikiko | that's where I have to start i thing | 13:42 |
| hikiko | yup | 13:42 |
| hikiko | and why only when Default.ini is changed | 13:43 |
| hikiko | the change takes place instantly | 13:43 |
| Trevinho | Personally I didn't think it was a problem to even say users to logout to get the session properly set, but... Indeed it's better if that's not the case | 13:43 |
| hikiko | and the other times it doesnt | 13:43 |
| hikiko | this is what I am investigating | 13:43 |
| Trevinho | hikiko: I think it could be caused by the gsettings backend making something weird | 13:43 |
| hikiko | yeah | 13:43 |
| Trevinho | as in that case it's using the .ini one I guess | 13:44 |
| Trevinho | and.... We don't want it | 13:44 |
| hikiko | I am using gsettings | 13:44 |
| hikiko | not ini | 13:44 |
| hikiko | noticed that too | 13:44 |
| hikiko | that's a good point but not the only problem | 13:45 |
| desrt | i love gsettings users! | 14:10 |
| desrt | er.. i mean.. good morning! | 14:10 |
| desrt | happy thursday | 14:10 |
| seb128 | hey desrt, happy thursday to you as well | 14:16 |
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| davmor2 | seb128: barry is having a look to the fix for update manager | 16:10 |
| davmor2 | \o/ | 16:11 |
| seb128 | davmor2, great, thanks for poking him about it | 16:18 |
| ximion | Laney: due to the ongoing complaints of people about AppStream downloading too much, I will disable icon-downloads in the AppStream package, and have them enabled by GUI tools explicitly | 17:29 |
| ximion | that way, the icons are only downloaded if they are really needed | 17:30 |
| ximion | which means that when you switch to AppStream 0.10.6, you'll also need to ship a small apt.conf snippet with GNOME Software | 17:30 |
| Laney | hi ximion | 17:31 |
| Laney | ongoing by who? | 17:31 |
| ximion | Laney: bug reporters, people on IRC, ... | 17:32 |
| Laney | riiiiiiiiight | 17:32 |
| ximion | this will not stop people complaining, but will make them complain at the right place ;-) | 17:32 |
| Laney | well I wouldn't do this in a stable series if I were you | 17:32 |
| ximion | also, the real reason why I do this is for server people and others using AppStream to find firmware on non-GUI systems. If there is no GUI, there is no point for downloading icons | 17:33 |
| ximion | I also hope this change will make it easier later to enable/disable HiDPI icons | 17:33 |
| ximion | the impact on Debian should be zero, since we will upload a new GS for Stretch in time | 17:34 |
| Laney | you should do it with a Breaks on broken SCs imho | 17:35 |
| Laney | those opinions aside, seems fair enough to me | 17:36 |
| seb128 | Laney, attente, ximion, did you see any report/discussions about fd leaks in g-s? | 17:36 |
| Laney | no | 17:36 |
| seb128 | hum, k | 17:37 |
| seb128 | bug #1648534 is the most reported issue on e.u.c | 17:37 |
| ubot5 | bug 1648534 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/gnome-software:5:g_wakeup_new:g_main_context_new:g_dbus_connection_send_message_with_reply_sync:g_dbus_connection_call_sync_internal:g_dbus_connection_call_sync" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1648534 | 17:37 |
| ximion | Laney: jup, I am thinking about that, but I might accidentially break Ubuntu's gnome-software that way | 17:37 |
| Laney | don't follow upstream bugs though, so there could be one there | 17:37 |
| seb128 | but doesn't seems to do it for robert_ancell or me | 17:37 |
| attente | haven't seen any either | 17:37 |
| seb128 | there is over 1.8M reports | 17:38 |
| seb128 | https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/70c23d0f4e2be24b26672427d4218dc8f0823597 | 17:38 |
| seb128 | wonder what's going on | 17:38 |
| Laney | why are almost all the incoming requests for an old version? | 17:43 |
| seb128 | good question | 17:47 |
| seb128 | could be a liveCD issue | 17:47 |
| seb128 | is that the version on the iso? | 17:47 |
| Laney | it is | 17:48 |
| Laney | but if you click on the reports some of them are from installed systems | 17:48 |
| seb128 | users don't do updates... | 17:48 |
| Laney | is it being stopped by phased updates? | 17:48 |
| * Laney tries to remember how to check | 17:49 | |
| seb128 | Laney, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html | 17:49 |
| Laney | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html | 17:49 |
| Laney | hmm nope | 17:49 |
| seb128 | it's not on there so I guess not | 17:49 |
| Laney | wtf | 17:49 |
| seb128 | I would just say that users don't do updates | 17:49 |
| seb128 | we have issues with update-manager not auto-opening often in xenial | 17:50 |
| Laney | meh | 17:50 |
| Laney | well the numbers look good for it being better | 17:50 |
| Laney | but hard to know | 17:50 |
| seb128 | and the gnome-software/notify-osd non interactive notifications are probably not very sucessful on getting them to open the upgrade tools | 17:50 |
| seb128 | yeah :-/ | 17:50 |
| Laney | hope someone's looking at those update problems ;-) | 17:53 |
| seb128 | we fixed some, unsure what's the situation today | 17:55 |
| * Laney posted a quick summary on the bug, maybe robert_ancell can confirm that if he tries | 18:06 | |
| Laney | nighty night | 18:06 |
| seb128 | night Laney & desktopers! | 18:07 |
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| willcooke | night all | 18:47 |
| dmj_s76 | cyphermox: merge proposal for Humanity to add @2x icon support: https://code.launchpad.net/~dmj726/humanity/hidpi-2x/+merge/315166 | 22:50 |
| dmj_s76 | Fixes a couple hidpi bugs: | 22:50 |
| dmj_s76 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/humanity-icon-theme/+bug/1657863 | 22:50 |
| dmj_s76 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1622686 | 22:50 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1657863 in humanity-icon-theme (Ubuntu) "Icons are too big or the wrong icon is shown on hidpi screens" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 22:50 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1622686 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "double header in 16.10" [Medium,In progress] | 22:50 |
| cyphermox | dmj_s76: we should get input from the desktop team, because this won't only affect the installer. | 23:38 |
| dmj_s76 | certainly | 23:39 |
| dmj_s76 | This will affect how icons look on hidpi systems (making them look the same as on lowdpi systems) | 23:40 |
| dmj_s76 | Right now the Humanity icons look noticeably different on hidpi systems. | 23:42 |
| dmj_s76 | Icon size issues, icons in buttons using different metaphors on a hidpi vs lowdpi screen, icons generally having much thinner strokes on hidpi than low. | 23:43 |
| dmj_s76 | Adding @2x support fixes those issues while keeping lines and curves nice and sharp on hidpi screens. | 23:44 |
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