| paddatrapper | morning everyone | 06:07 |
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| nsnzero | morning guys | 06:18 |
| paddatrapper | hey nsnzero | 06:18 |
| nsnzero | how you doing paddatrapper ? | 06:22 |
| paddatrapper | nsnzero: I'm good thanks, you? | 06:31 |
| nsnzero | busy busy at work - having a problem with my virtualbox installation -reinstalling | 06:49 |
| theblazehen | Morning all | 06:50 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero reinstalling with something better? | 06:52 |
| nsnzero | morning theblazehen - what do you suggest - i have a VM in virtual box already - so i will need to transfer it | 06:55 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero qemu+kvm | 06:58 |
| nsnzero | i just going to clone my virtual hdd - then try that - thanks | 07:00 |
| theblazehen | cool | 07:09 |
| paddatrapper | theblazehen: the only issue I run into with qemu is mouse integration never seems to work properly | 07:12 |
| theblazehen | paddatrapper tried different frontends? virt-viewer (not manager) works quite well iirc | 07:16 |
| MaNL | if you use spice and install the correct spice drivers on the guest it should work fine | 07:29 |
| === MaNL is now known as MaNI | ||
| theblazehen | MaNI yeah. /me used spice for thin client thing for a while, but couldn't find a client that handled 4x monitors well. Eventually went with vnc. Performance was great. Perhaps 1/8th of vnc. Had to use a vnc client where I could set compression level to 0 (slightly more than raw, but little compression) to achieve decent speeds. Was doing 950 mbit/s for a 2560x1440 video at around 20 - 30 fps | 07:32 |
| MaNI | for VNC tigerVNC seems to perform a bit better than the rest | 07:33 |
| MaNI | specifically talking about virt-manager though, mouse integration etc. works fine (if you configure the machine to use spice) | 07:35 |
| theblazehen | MaNI yeah, IIRC tiger for the server, tight for the client | 07:35 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 07:36 |
| theblazehen | Right. I normally just used vnc. Slightly faster over higher latency connection | 07:36 |
| theblazehen | hi inetpro | 07:36 |
| === Maaz_ is now known as Maaz | ||
| paddatrapper | theblazehen: didn't spend much time troubleshooting (just went back to virtualbox), but with virtualbox dropping from stretch and the controversy around it I may try again soon | 07:46 |
| theblazehen | paddatrapper cool. Windows or linux VMs? Long lived or just testing? If it's long lived I'd recommend X forwarding or RDP, short lived, look at vagrant / docker (different use cases, see which fits better) | 07:47 |
| paddatrapper | theblazehen: shortlived, testing new isos as we release them of a debian spinoff for a local mathematical institute. I tend to prefer LXC for long running stuff | 07:50 |
| theblazehen | paddatrapper cool. lxd for long running stuff here. Can you automate the testing? | 07:51 |
| paddatrapper | I'm currently working on the installer, so switching between the VM and host easily is crucial | 07:51 |
| theblazehen | Ah. spice won't help with the install environment then | 07:52 |
| paddatrapper | Not really - it's stuff like seeing how the installer looks in the live environment, if it crashes when installing this, what happens when I don't do that | 07:52 |
| theblazehen | Right | 07:52 |
| paddatrapper | Some could probably be automated, but manually testing doesn't take much time | 07:53 |
| Kilos | cremora | 10:02 |
| thatgraemeguy | hallo Oom | 10:17 |
| andrewlsd | Hello theblazehen Kilos- thatgraemeguy paddatrapper and inetpro | 10:52 |
| theblazehen | hi andrewlsd , Kilos- , thatgraemeguy | 10:53 |
| andrewlsd | \o | 10:55 |
| andrewlsd | theblazehen: do you have a pastebin type thing where I can post a picture? | 10:56 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd not anymore | 10:57 |
| theblazehen | But gonna build something | 10:57 |
| andrewlsd | theblazehen and paddatrapper: nice LXD/virtualization discussion earlier | 10:58 |
| theblazehen | Basically linx.li (what I had before) + webtorrent for larger files + http://termbin.com/ but with automatic file type detection for previews if you visit it in web browser. If you visit page in browser it will do prview etc, but if you wget / curl it then return the raw binary | 10:58 |
| andrewlsd | perhaps an automation toolset like "screwdriver" from Yahoo or Jenkins might work. | 10:59 |
| andrewlsd | +1 theblazehen linx.li | 10:59 |
| theblazehen | Or I might just write my own fully | 11:00 |
| theblazehen | No need to tie in linx.li and termbin etc, just have it all handled by one program | 11:00 |
| andrewlsd | theblazehen: I need better upload speed: https://linx.li/neapp9ur.png | 11:00 |
| andrewlsd | theblazehen: running a single statically linked `go` binary? | 11:01 |
| andrewlsd | :-P | 11:01 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd sure | 11:02 |
| theblazehen | Been meaning to learn golang, so why not now | 11:02 |
| andrewlsd | hehe | 11:03 |
| andrewlsd | `go` for it. | 11:03 |
| andrewlsd | hmm... www.golearn.com ? | 11:03 |
| andrewlsd | or readyset.go | 11:03 |
| nsnzero | if python and C had a baby it would be GO | 11:10 |
| paddatrapper | hey andrewlsd | 11:18 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd heh. And I think I'm more https://learnxinyminutes.com/ and then stumble around to get things done | 11:19 |
| paddatrapper | andrewlsd: I pretty much put everything I run now in LXC containers. It's nice compartmentalising things | 11:20 |
| andrewlsd | +1 paddatrapper | 11:21 |
| andrewlsd | lol theblazehen. me too. | 11:21 |
| theblazehen | paddatrapper /me had everything in lxd containers. Then bcache fucked me up. Now I have a smaller amount of everything in lxd containers | 11:23 |
| theblazehen | some docker inside lxd | 11:23 |
| andrewlsd | then theblazehen bought a hefty server :-) | 11:25 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd actually I broke bcache on the new server | 11:25 |
| theblazehen | Rebuilding from scratch | 11:25 |
| andrewlsd | :-( | 11:25 |
| theblazehen | Killed bcache the day before implementing backups :( | 11:26 |
| theblazehen | Lost config management and my gitlab server :( | 11:26 |
| andrewlsd | ... yes, that is how things usually go. | 11:26 |
| theblazehen | Speaking of which, I need to configure backups | 11:52 |
| theblazehen | Pity I can't bond the internal nic + usb nic on laptop | 11:52 |
| theblazehen | Since internal nic goes to a vm, which then goes to laptop | 11:53 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd you know how complicated that setup is :) | 11:53 |
| jerit_ | middag mense | 12:03 |
| andrewlsd | hi jerit_ | 12:10 |
| jerit_ | how goes andrewlsd? | 12:10 |
| jerit_ | brb | 12:13 |
| paddatrapper | theblazehen: lol. painful... All mine is through ansible and all data is outside the container, linked in. So I don't worry too much about if my containers decide to mess with me | 12:22 |
| theblazehen | paddatrapper Yeah. I changed bcache settings to make it faster, it broke the cache, and btrfsck wasn't good enough | 12:23 |
| andrewlsd | welcome drussell :-) | 12:43 |
| nsnzero | evening all | 18:22 |
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