[00:01] <Tabascomang> I have a regular user with sudo rights, a user with no sudo rights. The normal user with sudo rights cannot ssh into server, but the normal user without sudo rights can. What is wrong?
[00:01] <sylar> okay so the final step of removing the caches is not happening because "Permission denied "
[00:02] <ringzer0> Tabascomang: are you using sudo with your ssh command?
[00:02] <sylar> minimec , a little help here please?
[00:02] <minimec> sylar: again 'sudo' 'sudo rm -rf /var/lib/xkb/*
[00:02] <Tabascomang> Dunno. I just connect with putty.
[00:02] <ringzer0> minimec: your padawan is impatient :)
[00:03] <Tabascomang> It asks me for a username, and a password. I know with 100% certainity that the username and password is correct.
[00:03] <ringzer0> Tabascomang: cat /etc/passwd
[00:03] <ringzer0> Tabascomang: ensure both usernames have /bin/bash ... and not /bin/nologin
[00:03] <sylar> ringzer0 indeed i am , being a noob and trying to make this work since the past one hour :P
[00:04] <ringzer0> sylar: age?
[00:04] <Tabascomang> Also while I am at it, is it possible to make a custom shell somehow for a user than the user cannot leave, and only contains commands to start specific .sh files and kwrite?
[00:04] <minimec> ringzer0: Some time ago we were all 'padawans' too...
[00:04] <Tabascomang> Going to have a look at the passwd file soon.
[00:05] <sylar> i started learning linux very recently...
[00:05] <ringzer0> minimec: I agree.  I disagree with a 500ms "Hello, are you there?" echo to the initial q
[00:06] <ringzer0> Tabascomang: did you check /etc/passwd ?
[00:06] <sylar> okay so i backed up the file , edited it and removed the cacache..nothing really changed :/ whats wrong?
[00:06] <ringzer0> minimec: There is a specific bread of Melinial Padawan that bothers me ;-)
[00:07] <minimec> sylar: You have to logout/login the user session. Or if you want, you can even reboot...
[00:08] <sylar> fingers crossed , lets give it a shot
[00:08] <ringzer0> Tabascomang: The term you will want to google and understand is a "jailed shell"
[00:08] <leo__> hi everyone
[00:11] <sylar> Okay well..it worked
[00:12] <minimec> sylar: Nice! ;)
[00:12] <sylar> thanks a lot minimec. Learnt some things on here too :P
[00:12] <sylar> as i am fairly new on this , just trying my hand on linux ad basic scripting then will move on to overthewire ..
[00:33] <spiros> i have just upgrade to 16.10 but i have some error especially i cant remove nvidia-352
[00:33] <spiros> it gives me this error
[00:34] <spiros> Failed to get unit file state for var-lib-snapd-lib-gl.mount: No such file or directory
[00:34] <spiros> var-lib-snapd-lib-gl.mount is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it.
[00:34] <spiros> Failed to get unit file state for var-lib-snapd-lib-gl.mount: No such file or directory
[00:34] <spiros> var-lib-snapd-lib-gl.mount is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it.
[00:34] <spiros> any idea how i can remove the package?
[00:37] <minimec> spiros: Can you once 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure snapd'. The error is not related to the nvidia-352 driver.
[00:37] <spiros> hm let me try
[00:38] <spiros> what is snapd?
[00:38] <minimec> spiros: the daemon for the new snap package managment.
[00:39] <minimec> spiros: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/snapd
[00:39] <spiros> Warning: Stopping snapd.service, but it can still be activated by:
[00:39] <spiros>   snapd.socket
[00:39] <spiros> but after that the same error
[00:39] <spiros> with nvidia-352
[00:40] <minimec> spiros: do you use apt?
[00:40] <spiros> yes
[00:41] <minimec> spiros: What happens when you just 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade' ?
[00:41] <spiros> i try to now to manual delete files from /var/lib/dpkg/info but i dont know if it is correct
[00:41] <spiros> the same error with nvidia package minimec
[00:41] <minimec> spiros: I would not do that...
[00:42] <spiros> it marks nvidia-325 as upgradable but after that i had this error
[00:42] <minimec> spiros: So the package managment is broken. Let me check something...
[00:44] <spiros> yes i try to forge and anything about that but the same error
[00:44] <spiros> for that reason i say if maybe manual remove from /var/lib/dpkg/info is much better to do now
[00:45] <spiros>  /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-352_361.45.11-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb
[00:45] <spiros> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[00:46] <minimec> spiros: That seems to cover your issue... http://askubuntu.com/questions/783093/installing-nvidia-opencl-icd-367-breaks-the-package-manager
[00:46] <Zythyr> How can I find out the PATH of the chvt command?
[00:46] <spiros> yeah this i read and it says for manual remove
[00:46] <cuddle> how can i convert a .jpeg to .wad in ubuntu
[00:47] <zguy300> hey can one of you guys help me take a snapshot of my drive?
[00:48] <Zythyr> zguy300 Take a look at the Snapshot Backup section: http://www.howtogeek.com/175008/the-non-beginners-guide-to-syncing-data-with-rsync/
[00:48] <zguy300> looking now thanks
[00:49] <orle> guten abend
[00:49] <knob> zguy300, what do you want to do?  An exact copy?
[00:49] <zguy300> quick question, so yesterday i ruined my OS by installing some tools and removing them from my repos afterwards. i want to try it again lol... will a snapshot let me boot off it in case it ruins it?
[00:50] <spiros> i think it solved with manual removal
[00:50] <minimec> spiros: nice ;)
[00:52] <spiros> thx :)
[00:52] <zguy300> knob: do you know a better way to achieve that?
[00:52] <lollipopfriend> I have Ubuntu 16.10 installed and i am wondering.. Is it ok now to turn fast startup back on in windows or will it cause issues?
[00:53] <spiros> do i need nvidia-352 if i had install 367?
[00:53] <k1l> no
[00:53] <mcphail> lollipopfriend: I think it can cause issues booting Ubuntu
[00:54] <spiros> was strange that i have install nvidia 352, 361` and 367
[00:54] <spiros> maybe was the problem of that errors
[00:54] <k1l> lollipopfriend: the fast startup issue is not related to any ubuntu version.
[00:55] <k1l> lollipopfriend: the issue is, that windows is not properly shutting down, lettings the partition in an unsafe state to speed up the windows boot time, which leads to issues if other OS want to use that partition.
[00:56] <k1l> spiros: yes, usually you only have one version installed
[01:01] <zguy300> noone think they can lend a hand?
[01:06] <admins> wow, this is where everyone is
[01:06] <k1l> zguy300: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2596/comparison-of-backup-tools  this is a list of backup tools and what they do
[01:06] <zguy300> awesome thanks ill look now
[01:08] <admins> so does anyone actually respond to the main chat area?
[01:09] <admins> or do you have to chat at someone?
[01:09] <admins> new to IRC
[01:09] <admins> so I have no clue
[01:10]  * admins waves hello
[01:11] <zguy300> alright so yesterday when my OS wouldnt work i booted with a liveusb and mounted my hard drive. but could not edit anything on my hard drive. will a backup let me boot off it , in case my OS is unuseable?
[01:11]  * admins waves hello flag
[01:11] <k1l> admins: this is the technical support chat for ubuntu (like its told in the topic above).
[01:11]  * admins my badd
[01:11]  * admins thanks kil
[01:12]  * admins new to irc, please forgive
[01:12] <k1l> admins: for chatter we have #ubuntu-offtopic (needs registration with freenode), or you use other channels like ##chat .
[01:13] <k1l> zguy300: make sure you dont try to change the files on the liveOS system partition. because they are read-only.
[01:14] <zguy300> it wouldnt let me. i deleted stuff from repos an was trying to add them back with live OS. wasnt possible so i did fresh install now
[01:15] <zguy300> if it wont boot again when i removed tool from repo. i wanna be able to restart at my current state now without having to reinstall new OS
[01:15] <zguy300> but it would have to work from a live boot since my OS shuts down for some reason
[01:15] <k1l> that sounds like you want snapshots.
[01:16] <k1l> zguy300: but i still dont understand what you did to your system in the first place.
[01:16] <zguy300> lol yes from what ive read anyways... just havent used one before
[01:16] <zguy300> i downloaded the kali tools through katoolin and everything works fine. however you have to remove the kali stuff from repos of when computer tried updating it will ruin OS
[01:17] <zguy300> well i removed kali stuff from repo an restarted and it ruined it anyways. not sure why it wouldve done that. i want to try it again because i want the tools
[01:17] <k1l> that doesnt work, since once you run katoolin your system will become a kali linux and there is no way back
[01:18] <spiros> ok one problem is solved
[01:18] <spiros> another problem that i have is that network manager not working by default
[01:18] <spiros> when i login to the system  i dont have internet
[01:18] <zguy300> damn, any ideas since you seem familiar?
[01:18] <zguy300> i just want the tools on this Os and not a VM
[01:18] <spiros> and i had to give sudo dhclient eth1 to get internet back
[01:18] <spiros> any idea?
[01:19] <k1l> spiros: can you show your "dmesg" and "cat /etc/network/interfaces" in a pastebin?
[01:19] <spiros> ok
[01:20] <spiros> this is in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:21] <spiros> auto lo
[01:21] <spiros> iface lo inet loopback
[01:21] <spiros> it seems ok as i remember is the same as the old file?
[01:22] <k1l> yes. because if some interface is managed by the interfaces file the network manager doesnt work with it
[01:22] <spiros> do i have to change anything there?
[01:23] <k1l> no
[01:23] <k1l> what desktop and what ubuntu version is it?
[01:24] <spiros> is kubuntu 16.10
[01:24] <spiros> i just upgrade from 16.04
[01:24] <spiros> was working great before
[01:24] <k1l> ok, i dont know if kde works as intended with NM
[01:24] <k1l> but you could look at dmesg and see if there is some hardware issue
[01:24] <spiros> i dont think is kde problem but from network manager
[01:25] <spiros> how can i see all of dsmeg message?
[01:25] <spiros> because it cat the half and i cant see it
[01:25] <k1l> dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:26] <spiros> http://termbin.com/o3rv
[01:26] <poosanth> anyone know the best way to let sublime know where the hell node is when using nvm
[01:26] <spiros> i have boot now with the older kernel
[01:27] <spiros> do a network-manager reinstall help?
[01:27] <k1l> spiros: a dmesg would be helpfull when the issue is there.
[01:28] <energizer> What's the procedure for figuring out why my computer doesn't resume from sleep?
[01:32] <tiox> Hey there. Is there any means I can tell a program to kill itself at a certain sensor threshold?
[01:32] <spiros> i cant see any error strange
[01:33] <spiros>  IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[01:33] <spiros> CIFS VFS: Error connecting to socket. Aborting operation.
[01:33] <spiros> there are some errors
[01:33] <spiros> but from programmes that want to connect to net
[01:39] <Jakethepython1> goggwhat gg
[01:42] <zguy300> do you guys know another way to run install kali tools that wont ruin my OS?
[01:46] <sypher> !kali
[01:48] <zguy300> i cant join #kali-linux
[01:48] <zguy300> wont let me
[01:48] <sypher> zguy300: Unfortunate though that may be, this is not the proper forum in which to seek support for Kali.
[01:48] <Dave_Elec> guys i've deleted everything with filename including opencv to uninstall it. And now Videos and mpv player dont work. Does anyone have a fix? thanks.
[01:49] <sypher> zguy300: It would be a better idea to determine why you can't join that channel, resolve the issue, and then get support from the people best equipped to provide it.
[01:49] <zguy300> #kali-linux :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[01:49] <sypher> zguy300: That explains your issue. You have to have a registered nick.
[01:50] <zguy300> i am registered.
[01:50] <zguy300> -NickServ- You are now identified for zguy300.
[01:50] <Dave_Elec> guys i've deleted everything with filename including opencv to uninstall it. And now Videos and mpv player dont work. Does anyone have a fix? thanks
[01:50] <sypher> zguy300: Then try to rejoin #kali-linux.
[01:50] <zguy300> ok will now
[01:50] <k1l> zguy300: you are not logged in. see your whois
[01:51] <k1l> zguy300: you need to relogin after every reconnection
[01:51] <zguy300> ill exti and try come in network again
[01:52] <k1l> zguy300: no, just identify again with nickserv
[01:52] <zguy300> ok
[01:53] <zguy300> ahh crap, im logged in but not registered email
[01:53] <zguy300> fml
[01:55] <Guy1524> hey guys, the minecraft devs released a new launcher for linux I would like to try out, however unfortuneately they rely on icu version 57, which 16.10 ships, but 16.04 ships version 55
[01:55] <Guy1524> any of you know how I can get version 57 on 16.04
[01:57] <Dave_Elec> guys i've deleted everything with filename including opencv to uninstall it. And now Videos and mpv player dont work. Does anyone have a fix? thanks
[02:00] <coffeeguy> so umm hey are supposed to be able to access your entire ubuntu install with chromium and file:///home~
[02:00] <coffeeguy> probably silly question
[02:01] <coffeeguy> erm and the encrypted home
[02:01] <tgm4883> coffeeguy: why wouldn't you be able to...
[02:02] <coffeeguy> ok yah makes sense i get that i was just supprised at the permissions
[02:04] <coffeeguy> hehe well this is kinda cool i could do a search from here
[02:06] <sypher> coffeeguy: All you're doing is browsing your local file system. You'll have whatever permissions your normal user has.
[02:07] <coffeeguy> learnt sump pin woohoo :D
[02:07] <coffeeguy> thanks guys sypher and tgm4883 :)
[02:13] <Jakethepython1> gnight heygm
[02:18] <Guy1524> hey guys in gnome boxes how to I ssh to the host
[02:18] <Guy1524> from the guest
[02:19] <sypher> Guy1524: There would have to be a network connection in place between host and guest that allows such traffic.
[02:19] <sypher> Guy1524: I'm assuming you're discussing VMs and so forth.
[02:20] <xRob_> http://paste.silogroup.org/nixibukicu.rb
[02:22] <h_n> h
[02:24] <elisa87> please have a look http://stackoverflow.com/questions/41732696/file-strings-file-opt-intel-mkl-include-mkl-version-h-cannot-be-read I had no problem previously installing OpenCV for Ubuntu 14.04 but here's a new machine with Ubuntu 14.04 I get this error http://stackoverflow.com/questions/41732696/file-strings-file-opt-intel-mkl-include-mkl-version-h-cannot-be-read
[02:34] <elisa87> how to install intel mkl in Ubuntu?
[02:35] <Dave_Elec> guys i've deleted everything with filename including opencv to uninstall it. And now Videos and mpv player dont work. Does anyone have a fix? thanks
[02:36] <cfhowlett> Dave_Elec, I suspect removing opencv also removed part of your video support.  sudo apt-get install --reinstall mpv
[02:39] <Dave_Elec> cfhowlett: I already tried that and it says "dpkg: warning: files list file for package 'libopencv-highgui2.4v5:amd64' missing; assuming package has no files currently installed"
[02:41] <tgm4883> Dave_Elec: wait, you deleted the actual files and not uninstalled the packages?
[02:42] <AlecTaylor> r
[02:43] <Dave_Elec> #tgm4883 Yeah, i was stupid
[02:43] <Dave_Elec> tgm4883: I reinstalled opencv
[02:45] <calilo> hola
[02:45] <cfhowlett> !es | calilo
[02:47] <calilo> xc
[02:47] <calilo> cvxc
[02:47] <calilo> cvc
[02:47] <calilo> c
[02:47] <calilo> vcxv
[02:47] <calilo> xcv
[02:47] <cfhowlett> calilo, stop it
[03:01] <ATadConfused> hi guys
[03:02] <ATadConfused> is there an irc channel where i can ask someone to explain what consumerism is?
[03:02] <cfhowlett> ATadConfused, definitely not in the ubuntu support channel. perhaps you might try this new invention: google
[03:03] <ATadConfused> yeah sorry about that, i've googled it and read the wikipedia article too, but i'm still a tad confused
[03:04] <tekeli-li> ATadConfused, http://www.thefreedictionary.com/consumerism
[03:04] <kk4ewt> ask your teacher tomorrow
[03:04] <tekeli-li> ATadConfused, https://www.reddit.com/r/eli5/
[03:04] <ATadConfused> i'm actually 23 lol
[03:04] <tekeli-li> They can explain anything.
[03:05] <ATadConfused> eli5 might be a good idea yeah
[03:05] <ATadConfused> thx guys, sorry for everything
[03:06] <tekeli-li> kk4ewt, I hope I never run out of teachers.
[03:26] <Zythyr> I used this guide to boot my Ubuntu to console. However, is it possible to make Ubuntu boot to a black screen? Currenlty it boots to the virtual console tty1 and it shows the login request and blinking cursor. I just want a total black screen.
[03:27] <cfhowlett> Zythyr, ....... to serve what purpose?  and if successful, how would you know?
[03:31] <Death_Leader> hy
[03:35] <tekeli-li> Zythyr, I don't have a complete answer, but the virtual terminals TTY1-TTY6 are served by the agetty program launched during the init phase.
[03:41] <tekeli-li> Zythyr, It may be possible to disable the TTYs by editing the init configuration: http://askubuntu.com/a/398432
[03:41] <tekeli-li> Zythyr, Is that helpful? Do you want to know more?
[03:42] <lungaro> omg, I might stab ubuntu xenial for the madness its put me through.
[03:43] <cfhowlett> if you want actual help, drop the graphic language and state your question.  if you just need to vent, do it elsewhere.
[03:51] <Zythyr> tekeli-li Hi
[03:51] <Zythyr> tekeli-li Sorry I had to step out for a bit
[03:52] <Zythyr> cfhowlett Sorry I had to step out for a bit
[03:53] <Zythyr> Writing my exact question, give me a sec
[03:56] <Zythyr> I have a system running Ubuntu connected to a projector for 3D printing application. I want Ubuntu to boot to a black screen directly. When I start the 3d printing, I will use SSH into the Ubuntu system connected to the projector. I will be using "fbi" to display my desired images on the projector. Fbi is a framebuffer viewer. I will be displaying the images on TTY1 or TTYn...
[03:57] <tekeli-li> Zythyr, I think it would be possible to display framebuffer images without an active TTY, but maybe you need the TTY for other reasons?
[03:58] <cfhowlett> Zythyr,tekeli-li suggested this; http://askubuntu.com/questions/357039/how-do-i-disable-virtual-consoles-tty1-6/398432#398432
[03:59] <shinobi_> hey all, i'm wondering if someone could help me out with a wireless networking issue i'm having with this laptop, ubuntu server 16.04.1
[03:59] <cfhowlett> !ask | shinobi_
[03:59] <sypher> Ubuntu Server on a laptop?
[03:59] <shinobi_> haha yep
[04:00] <shinobi_> basically using this piece of crap as a server for a couple things
[04:00] <sypher> That would explain Ubuntu Server, then.
[04:00] <sypher> shinobi_: So, let's get the details on your issue. Can't help without them.
[04:00] <Zythyr> tekeli-li cfhowlett fbi requires me to selectw which ttyn I want to display the image on. When I am in graphica mode and I run the fbi command with my desired image, it gives me error "Inappropriate ioctl for device (not a linux console?) . Here is man page: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man1/fbi.1.html
[04:00] <shinobi_> yeah, it's a crappy acer that won't connect to my wireless over dhcp
[04:00] <shinobi_> i think it might have something to do with the firmware. ath9k
[04:01] <shinobi_> Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565
[04:01] <shinobi_> damn acers. >.>
[04:01] <cfhowlett> shinobi_, drop the commentary, focus on facts >>> answers
[04:02] <shinobi_> ah, sorry. i will enable robot mode and no longer be a human.
[04:02] <shinobi_> when i ifup wls2 the dhcp lease just times out. i know the config in /etc/network/interfaces is fine.
[04:04] <shinobi_> lspci shows the device just fine. `modprobe ath9k && dmesg | grep ath` shows that everything is enabled and no errors.
[04:10] <tricym> yeee
[04:10] <shinobi_> i did upgrade to 4.4.0-31-generic to see if that solved anything, but it did not
[04:11] <tekeli-li> Zythyr, I must have misunderstood your request. I thought you wanted to disable the TTYs. Sorry.
[04:11] <dantes>  how can i set last command as window title in terminal?
[04:16] <Zythyr> tekeli-li Its okay
[04:18] <Zythyr> tekeli-li I found out there is a command called "setterm" and it allows me to to change the number of minutes before screen blanks. However, I am not sure if these settings are for ALL tty. For example, I was able to change colors while on tty1 using setterm. But when I used setterm command from remote PC using SSH, it change the terminal colors of my remote machine and not the actual Ubuntu
[04:18] <Zythyr> system
[04:19] <Zythyr> *stepping out for a little
[04:30] <tiox> Uh, yeah this just happened on another IRC server; http://pastebin.com/V8PKrHtB
[04:30] <tekeli-li> Zythyr, I had a similar problem recently. I think setterm sees your ssh client as the terminal.
[04:31] <tiox> Much lulz had.
[04:32] <Zythyr> tekeli-li Yes, looks like I have to physical set the settings on the tty1 of the system
[04:33] <dantes> anyone know how to set last command as terminal window title?
[04:34] <tekeli-li> Zythyr, Since it seems you and I are exploring new territory, I recommend performing some experiments and making note of the results. It seems you know what you want and which commands are involved.
[04:35] <tekeli-li> Zythyr, And FWIW, that's what I've been doing. Just trying to see what works without necessarily understanding how or why.
[04:35] <Zythyr> tekeli-li Yes thanks. I think for now I'll just stick with waiting for tty1 to blank out after few minutes.
[04:35] <Zythyr> tekeli-li I can also figure out how to run the fbi command to display a black image to tty1 however, i tried doing that and didn't have much luck. Will try again
[04:45] <tekeli-li> Zythyr, good luck then  :)
[04:54] <Zythyr> thanks :)
[04:57] <FishPencil> Is there some sort of program that can "watch" for changes to a file and upload it via sftp if one occurs?
[04:58] <genericuser123> thinking of something like a git repo?
[05:00] <dadforLinux> Which is lighter on CPU? Ubuntu's Unity or Linux Mint Cinnamon?
[05:01] <tekeli-li> FishPencil, Sounds like a combination of git and cron.
[05:17] <cfhowlett> dadforLinux, we don't use  or support mint here nor have we compared.  look elsewhere.
[05:17] <dadforLinux> cfhowlett is Unity light tho?
[05:17] <dadforLinux> like which is it heavy in like RAM or CPU?
[05:17] <cfhowlett> FishPencil, I imagine cron > diff > sftp might be a solution.              might be a solution
[05:18] <cfhowlett> dadforLinux, the lightest DE's in the Ubuntu family are lxde and xfce4.  on ubuntu, sudo apt install lxde xfce4              then logout, choose a DE and login.
[05:18] <dadforLinux> ok
[05:32] <Nighko> Hi
[05:32] <Nighko> I have ran into a problem with ubuntu
[05:33] <cfhowlett> !help | Nighko
[05:33] <Nighko> It keeps on going to initramfs. I fixed it twice. And could not find the fix on the web this time. So I tried another method and now my screen is spamming me with thousands of numbers
[05:34] <Nighko> After it said force rewrite. I used the fsck cmd
[05:35] <Nighko> fsck -b 32768 /dev/sda5
[05:35] <Nighko> Should I be worried?
[05:35] <cfhowlett> Nighko, are you still stuck at initramfs?
[05:35] <Nighko> The numbers have now gone after a good while and I have a black screen
[05:36] <Nighko> Their back
[05:36] <Nighko> Screen was sleeping
[05:38] <Nighko> I'll send I video
[05:38] <Nighko> A*
[05:39] <Nighko> I'm currently too scared to touch Ctrl+c
[05:39] <Nighko> Its my dads PC. He asked me to fix it. So if I stuff it up. I'm dead
[05:44] <Bashing-om> Nighko: Tell us that you did run the fsck command from a liveUSB ??
[05:44] <Nighko> Nope
[05:45] <Nighko> From within initframfs its self
[05:45] <Nighko> Bad idea?
[05:45] <cfhowlett> yep
[05:45] <Nighko> Can I stop it?
[05:46] <cfhowlett> Night__, ctrl-x? q?
[05:46] <Nighko> Want me to use Ctrl x?
[05:46] <Nighko> ?
[05:46] <cfhowlett> I'm not sure what the kill command would be from the initramfs prompt.  try it and see
[05:47] <Nighko> Nope
[05:47] <Bashing-om> Nighko: Yeah, real bad .. I would say it is RE-install time. The file system was in use with the atttempt to fix . Can not hit a moving target .
[05:47] <cfhowlett> this ^^^
[05:48] <Nighko> So will my dad lose all his files?
[05:48]  * cfhowlett thinks "aaaaaaaaah, heck ..."
[05:49] <Nighko> Woah
[05:49] <Nighko> He numbers disappeared for a seck
[05:49] <Nighko> Sec*
[05:49] <Nighko> Came.up with fix? Stuff
[05:49] <cfhowlett> Nighko, STOP NOW!  Ask Dad what his backup system is.  If he says "what?", then you need to backup his data before take another step.
[05:50] <Bashing-om> Nighko: A lot depends on what sda5 partition holds  as to what might be salvagable .
[05:50] <Nighko> Sda5 is linux
[05:50] <Nighko> He has no back ups
[05:51] <Nighko> And how can I backup his data?
[05:51] <Nighko> Its still running!
[05:51] <causative> I just updated to 16.10 and now the "terminal" icon in the launcher lacks the little pips next to it, so when I click it it always launches a new terminal instead of taking me to the last open one (several are open)
[05:51] <causative> the other icons in the launcher have their proper pips
[05:51] <cfhowlett> Nighko, you might have some explaining to do.
[05:51] <Nighko> https://sendvid.com/xtzsdyuj
[05:52] <Nighko> Can I forcefully shut computer down and use live CD?
[05:52] <cfhowlett> Nighko, you might have a LOT of explaining to do.  reboot to a live USB, and backup the the /home before you do anything else.
[05:53] <Nighko> But I will have to shut down PC during fsck cmd
[05:53] <cfhowlett> don't
[05:53] <cfhowlett> wait
[05:53] <Nighko> Until?
[05:53] <cfhowlett> until it's done.
[05:54] <Nighko> Ok
[05:54] <Nighko> That might take ages though
[05:54] <cfhowlett> indeed
[05:54] <Nighko> Still spamming numbers
[05:54] <cfhowlett> that's not spam, it's output.
[05:54] <Nighko> Estimate of time it will take?
[05:55] <cfhowlett> no idea thus "until it's done".
[05:56] <cfhowlett> for the record, you could do a forced shutdown but that is quite likely to break things
[05:56] <cfhowlett> even more
[05:59] <CrazyTux> hello, needed some help. I installed Virtual Box on Xubuntu and then MS Windows 10 inside the VB. Can I use all the applications inside this VB in the same way as when Windows is installed in a dual boot setup?
[06:00] <cfhowlett> CrazyTux, in my experience no.  ask #vbox for support
[06:00] <CrazyTux> cfhowlett, ok.
[06:01] <Nighko> Its done O.O
[06:01] <cfhowlett> Nighko, try to reboot.  if that fails, you know what's next
[06:01] <Nighko> Do I reboot into Linux or a spare live disc
[06:01] <Nighko> Ok
[06:02] <CrazyTux> But, somehow I find Xubuntu faster than Windows 10.
[06:02] <Nighko> Ubuntu logo/loading screen....
[06:02] <Nighko> Finger s crossed
[06:02] <Nighko> Btw
[06:03] <Nighko> Worst thing is. My dad is at work
[06:03] <Blue1> xubuntu is very fast compared to Windows 10
[06:03] <Nighko> If the HDD sound stops and screen freezes is that bad?
[06:03] <Nighko> Wait
[06:03] <Nighko> I see mouse
[06:03] <Nighko> Its working
[06:04] <Nighko> Should k backup files anyway and reinstall for safety measures
[06:04] <cfhowlett> Nighko, yes, yes and yes
[06:05] <stanford_AI> What do you think of our Drone product? http://adia.tech/
[06:06] <cfhowlett> stanford_AI, I think you are spamming the support channel.  don't.  take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:06] <stanford_AI> ok
[06:08] <Nighko> Well
[06:08] <Nighko>  Just going to leave computer until my dad gets home.
[06:09] <Nighko> He is a bit of a tech guy him self. But says I know more....
[06:09] <Nighko> Anyway
[06:09] <Nighko> Thanks for the help
[06:10] <Nighko> Cfhowlett and Bashing-om
[06:10] <Nighko> Thanks
[06:10] <Nighko> Bye
[06:10] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[06:10] <CrazyTux> Why do you bash om?
[06:13] <Bashing-om> Nighko: K :) . Take a lot of care .
[06:17] <rob> ls
[06:19] <dantes> hi, how do i change my terminal title?
[06:20] <Speiros> dantes profile preferences
[06:22] <CrazyTux> why the available wireless networks don't get detected when I try to switch between two networks? I am using Xubuntu 16.04.1.
[06:23] <CrazyTux> I sometimes have to log out and then log in again for the wireless networks to be visible.
[06:29] <dantes> Speiros: no?
[06:29] <Speiros> dantes It didn't work?
[06:30] <dantes> there is no option to change terminal title.
[06:31] <dantes> Speiros:
[06:31] <Speiros> dantes Under "edit", there should be "profile preferences", and there is a 2nd dropdown.
[06:31] <Speiros> dantes "Title and command"
[06:33] <Speiros> If yours differs dantes, here's a link with other suggestions:)  Hopefully one of them is accurate for you.  If not, let us know, and somebody may be able to troubleshoot with you.
[06:33] <Speiros> dantes https://askubuntu.com/questions/22413/how-to-change-gnome-terminal-title
[06:35] <pragomer_1> I want to install a few distros (kubuntu,ubuntu-mate,opensuse) parallel on one ssd. AND I want to use dm-crypt/luks on all these systems. how do I best realize that?? is either mbr or gpt better choice?
[06:35] <cfhowlett> pragomer_1, that's one way.  there are better options.
[06:36] <cfhowlett> install ONE ubuntu and then install the various desktop environments.  logout/choose DE/Login.   option 2: ubuntu > virtualbox > ubuntu flavors to the virtualbox
[06:37] <pragomer_1> wanted to seperate the DEs sorry
[06:40] <dantes> Speiros: that worked thanks for the help
[06:42] <Speiros> dantes :) Excellent
[06:45] <this_self> Wow, as I see in Release Schedule that Canonical will release 16.04.2 on 16 February?
[06:45] <this_self> Earlier this date was in the middle of January
[06:46] <cfhowlett> chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic please.  thank you, this_self
[07:24] <eht> oh god. you said "chitchat"
[07:43] <gagalicious> i have <defunct> process that doesnt go away for days. how do i resolve this? i want it to be gone. tried kill -9 but doesnt work. it is eating CPU processing power.
[07:56] <skyhigh> hellp
[07:56] <skyhigh> hello
[08:10] <icondes> q
[08:12] <lostguy> why is ruby installed on uubntu?
[08:12] <lostguy> how can i use apt-get or apt-cache to enquire more what was the install reson
[08:12] <neenee> because something depended on it in your configuration
[08:13] <lostguy> reason ? was it installed as a dep ? of which pkg?
[08:13] <lostguy> how do i use apt to see the install reason
[08:13] <lostguy> it's installed as a dep of which package ? any commands?
[08:14] <tatertots> lostguy: read the man page with "man apt"...then come back
[08:14] <lostguy> anyone ones which options to be used of the mauals?
[08:14] <lostguy> which options??
[08:23] <ubu1> what do I need to do in order to get Synaptic working on 16.10?
[08:24] <tatertots> ubu1: can you open terminal?
[08:24] <neenee> ctrl+alt+t
[08:24] <ubu1> tatertots: ok
[08:25] <tatertots> ubu1: in terminal>    sudo apt install inxi pastebinit &> ~/ubu.nfo
[08:25] <tatertots> ubu1: press enter
[08:26] <tatertots> ubu1: let me know when it's done or the command line returns to you
[08:26] <styler2go> Does anyone know a browser with vaapi support for ubuntu?
[08:26] <ubu1> tatertots: it returned, but I got no output
[08:26] <tatertots> ubu1: ok good
[08:27] <tatertots> ubu1: in terminal>    whereis inxi|pastebinit
[08:27] <tatertots> ubu1: press enter
[08:28] <tatertots> ubu1: did you get a url/link? or error?
[08:29] <tatertots> ubu1: you conscious over there?
[08:31] <ubu1> tatertots: yeah sure here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23826814/
[08:32] <tatertots> ubu1: in terminal>    inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[08:32] <tatertots> ubu1: press enter
[08:32] <tatertots> ubu1: share url/link here
[08:40] <neenee> styler2go: chromium can be compiled with vaaapi support
[08:42] <styler2go> neenee, yes but it needs a lot of patches
[08:43] <n4h0> ././
[08:43] <neenee> styler2go: Well, I do not say it was easy or not time-consuming :)
[08:43] <n4h0> does any one know free vpn for ubuntu?
[08:43] <neenee> But technically speaking it can be done
[08:44] <neenee> n4h0: free vpn.. like client/server? sure - you can setup pptp/ipsec yourself, or go with openvpn - server + client
[08:44] <neenee> There, gave you three options, next :P
[08:46] <n4h0> i have been trying such things but i didn't get them working and i am looking for vpn for just tunneling and bypassing filters
[08:47] <neenee> You probably want a paid service for such things - what filters are you referring to?
[08:48] <neenee> You would need some endpoint to connect to/through, which is usually a paid service, especially if you want it to have some form of security/privacy
[08:48] <n4h0> the ISP servers are keeping me from accessing some sites and also from some software repositaries
[08:50] <neenee> legal sites/repos?
[08:50] <n4h0> both
[08:51] <Zen> If you have a server that you have ssh access too that wont have the blocks, then you can look at sshuttle
[08:58] <n4h0>  i am just looking for vpn like pshiphon on widows
[08:58] <n4h0> but for ubuntu
[09:25] <lostguy> how do i install wolfram? there is no paclage in the officail repo??
[09:25] <lostguy> so where is it?
[09:25] <EriC^^> !info wolfram
[09:28] <glachas> I have Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS on my system and it is running too slow. What should I do?
[09:28] <lostguy> EriC^^: whaat?
[09:28] <lostguy> it is there is raspberry isntalled by default
[09:28] <EriC^^> lostguy: nevermind
[09:28] <EriC^^> glachas: how much ram? cpu?
[09:28] <lostguy> and i don't know how did they install it
[09:29] <lostguy> EriC^^: so i do mind, as it's free
[09:29] <lostguy> rpi people did it somehow
[09:29] <lostguy> i too would like to do it
[09:29] <lostguy> if anyone knows can you tell me, otherwise i don't want to ask this on askubunt
[09:30] <lostguy> does anyone has any idea regarding wolfram ?
[09:30] <lostguy> !info wolframalpha
[09:30] <glachas> EriC^^: 4 gb RAM and i5 processor
[09:36] <cdidd> is there a way to force rsync to interpret trailing slashes like cp does, meaning create directories with trailing slashes?
[09:39] <geirha> It does interpret trailing slashes specially. rsync also has its own channel; #rsync
[09:40] <cdidd> it has its own chanel. The channel is dead right now though.
[09:40] <glachas> I have Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS on my system and it is running too slow. What should I do? And also having 4 gb RAM and i5 processor
[09:40] <geirha> either that, or you're asking the wrong question ;)
[09:48] <neenee> glachas: consider an SSD drive, it's the one upgrade that has more effect than anything else.
[09:51] <EriC^^> glachas: how slow are we talking?
[09:52] <eevh> too
[09:53] <eevh> much
[09:53] <glachas> neenee: I didn't get you.
[09:54] <glachas> EriC^^: to open any new window ubuntu is taking time. and also stop working.
[09:54] <geirha> If there isn't a suitable graphics driver, the GUI may be really sluggish
[09:55] <EriC^^> glachas: is there anything tking up the cpu? try pressing on the dash and type "system monitor" and see the resources
[10:15] <pop_> o-e-m refuses to work more than 2 days
[10:16] <pop_> gonna lok for new os
[10:32] <wam> Hi, we see hanging VMs (based on kvm/qemu) when the storage for these vms is not available for a short time (~20-30s). The VMs then go to 100% iowait and don't recover from this state (and don't do any I/O anymore). Any hints how I can relax this with some kernel settings or sth?
[10:32] <ikonia> I don't think you should "relax" this
[10:32] <ikonia> it will depend on what they are running too
[10:33] <ikonia> the key question why is storage dissapearing for 30 seconds
[10:33] <wam> They may completely stop for that time - I don't care. Howver, they should somehow recover.
[10:33] <wam> ikonia: probably network issues.
[10:33] <ikonia> why should they some how recover ? it depends on what they are running/doing on if they recover
[10:33] <ikonia> and it depends on the storage and how it re-attaches
[10:33] <ikonia> it's not "that" simple as just change a kenel param
[10:33] <wam> ikonia: can't they just repeat the not-working i/o?
[10:34] <ikonia> wam: how do they know the storage is back ?
[10:34] <wam> I think what the VM sees is mostly like a failing sector on a disk.
[10:34] <ikonia> wam: a failing sector ?
[10:34] <ikonia> no, if your storage dissapeaers that is not seen as a failing secotr
[10:34] <ikonia> sector
[10:34] <wam> ikonia: and the disk trying to repair it for minutes
[10:34] <cpaelzer> I guess he meant i/o error
[10:34] <wam> waiting for the disk
[10:35] <ikonia> wam: storage being pulled and sat in an i/o error, is very different than storage bing too busy to respond and in an i/o wait state
[10:35] <wam> it could just freeze the process and try the i/o every second. I was hoping there was some nice tunable.
[10:35] <wam> it's more like the too busy thing
[10:35] <ikonia> wam: you can't just 'freeze processes"
[10:35] <ikonia> wam: how the storage re-attaches and presents itself to the OS is key
[10:35] <ikonia> what the application is is key
[10:36] <ikonia> there is more to it than that as I said
[10:36] <wam> think of it as a NAS where the ethernet plug is pulled for some seconds.
[10:36] <wam> there's no way to recover from that?
[10:36] <ikonia> it doesnt matter what you think of it is
[10:36] <Ben64> seems like a better idea to fix the problem rather then kludge it
[10:37] <wam> Ben64: we're trying this for months now and need a second approach for the time of fixing the other problem.
[10:37] <ikonia> it matters what it really is and what is technically happening (eg: what the OS thinks has happened to the disk, how the disks re-represent themselves and what the application is expecting)
[10:38] <cpaelzer> wam: before I suggest an alternative I need to state that I agree to ikonia and Ben64 that solving the underlying issue is the much better approach
[10:38] <cpaelzer> wam: essentially your guests will see I/O errors and that will drive the apps in them nuts, so even after storage is back there sin't much left (that is how I TL;DR your case)
[10:39] <cpaelzer> wam: you can however configure it to never report an I/O error to the guest
[10:39] <cpaelzer> wam: https://qemu.weilnetz.de/qemu-doc.html look for weerro, rerror
[10:39] <ikonia> there are lots of options here, but what is actually happening, the apps and the storage is key
[10:39] <cpaelzer> wam: yet that means that on an I/O error the guest will emmediately suspend - which often apps don't like either (timeouts)
[10:40] <cpaelzer> wam: yet you can try, that would leave your guests suspended after such a thing happened
[10:40] <wam> cpaelzer: sounds like I'll have a look on this. Thanks!
[10:40] <cpaelzer> wam: after your storage recovered you can unpause them
[10:40] <ikonia> wam: I strongly advise against that
[10:40] <ikonia> wam: again it depends on the storage and apps
[10:41] <cpaelzer> oh I can only agree ikonia - but sometimes the worst alternative is still one he might try :-/
[10:41] <ikonia> suspending VM's in an unclean state can be wore
[10:41] <ikonia> worse
[10:45] <CrazyTux> hello, can anybody help me? I needed to increase the size of the home partition on the hdd.
[10:45] <obinoob> is it possible to update no-ip with duc on ubuntu running bewind a router?
[10:46] <ikonia> what's "duc" obinoob ?
[10:46] <te0> Hi All
[10:46] <CrazyTux> I had allocated 100 gbs of space to home partition. This was followed by about 4gbs of swap partition.
[10:46] <obinoob> ikonia http://download.cnet.com/No-IP-DUC-Dynamic-DNS-Update-Client/3000-2648_4-10055182.html
[10:46] <CrazyTux> I have deleted the swap partition now by using Gparted.
[10:46] <CrazyTux> But, not able to increase the size of the Home partition.
[10:47] <wam> ok, possibly the first thing I'll do is s/virtio-scsi/virtio-blk/ for the moment. And then I'll look at rerror and werror. Thanks again.
[10:47] <ikonia> obinoob: your router will just be "natting"
[10:47] <CrazyTux> hello, can anybody help me?
[10:47] <ikonia> obinoob: your router controls the public IP, not your host, so it's the router that should be manaigng the IP
[10:48] <obinoob> I don't think so I believe that the DUC will hit the first node and than reach no-ip web api
[10:48] <ikonia> obinoob: I've never seen that client before, but I imagine if you run it from yoru host, it will trigger a check on the nat, and update the IP
[10:48] <ikonia> obinoob: it's a nat though, a nat from the router (hence why it's a router)
[10:48] <ikonia> obinoob: I suspect you'll be fine running the client (but I don't know for sure as I've never even heard of it)
[10:49] <obinoob> ikonia ok thank you very much for your input
[10:50] <tatertots> CrazyTux: you can't resize a partition that is in use
[10:51] <CrazyTux> what do I need to do now?
[10:53] <tatertots> CrazyTux: put some thought into how you need to use your disk capacity and next time you reinstall configure it accordingly
[10:53] <CrazyTux> tatertots, now I can't do anything?
[10:53] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[10:54] <xXEoflaOEXx> Hello, BluesKaj!
[10:54] <tatertots> CrazyTux: do you still have gparted open?...you tell me if you can do anything
[10:54] <CrazyTux> I deleted the swap partition and created the swap partition at the end of the disk.
[10:54] <BluesKaj> hi xXEoflaOEXx
[10:54] <bach2a_moi> w
[10:54] <bach2a_moi> e
[10:54] <bach2a_moi> r
[10:54] <bach2a_moi> t
[10:54] <bach2a_moi> q
[10:54] <bach2a_moi> w
[10:55] <CrazyTux> swap partition was followed by free space earlier. Now swap partition is at the end of the disk so that free space precedes the swap partition.
[10:56] <CrazyTux> now it it is Home partition followed by free space and in the end swap partition.
[10:56] <CrazyTux> yet. I can't figure out how to increase the size of the home partition.
[11:00] <tatertots> CrazyTux: in gparted, normally you can drag the slider bar to resize
[11:00] <minimec> CrazyTux: The thing is, that you have to unmount the /home partition to be able to resize it. So logged in as current user this will fail, because the /home partition is 'in use'... So you can either do this in recovery mode as 'root' on a console, or do it with a ubuntu live disk.
[11:00] <CrazyTux> I don't find any free space after home partition so that I can drag it.
[11:01] <CrazyTux> ok. I'll do it with ubuntu live disk
[11:01] <tatertots> CrazyTux: maybe take a screen shot and post it to http://imgur.com and share here
[11:02] <CrazyTux> I'll try it witjh a live disk first and see.
[11:07] <u14072327> SOS
[11:19] <su11ly> Hey, quick question. I can only find documentation of ubuntu.s390x releases being licensed and priced
[11:19] <su11ly> That seems to be for the LTS version. Is the "regular" one still free for s390 platform aswell?
[11:21] <mcphail> su11ly: I think support is in #ubuntu-s390x, according to the wiki
[11:22] <su11ly> mcphail: thank you, didnt see that hcnnale!
[11:23] <Beginner> hello, can anyone help, i cant update after upgrade to 16.04
[11:23] <mcphail> su11ly: I hadn't realised an s390 port existed!
[11:24] <su11ly> mcphail: me neither, just found out today
[11:24] <BluesKaj> Beginner, perhaps you're up to date
[11:25] <Beginner> no, havent updated for a long time
[11:25] <ppf> Beginner: in what way can't you update
[11:26] <Beginner> using sudo apt-get update, it gives me a long list of errors
[11:27] <BluesKaj> Beginner, pastebin the errors
[11:27] <Beginner> this is 1 of them W: The repository 'http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file.
[11:27] <nwe> hello, how does ipappend work in efidefault and preseeds, when I installing rhel I can use ipappend2 ksdevice=bootif will that work for ubuntu too?
[11:27] <nwe> or should I type boot=bootif ?
[11:27] <Beginner> i might need a bit of help, im not used to this irc stuff
[11:29] <tomreyn> hi Beginner, are you into running commands ona terminal, yet?
[11:29] <tomreyn> !terminal | Beginner
[11:29] <Beginner> tomreyn> not that much, but i try
[11:30] <Beginner> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23827408/
[11:30] <Beginner> sry for the danish in the paste, cant change it atm
[11:30] <Beginner> but i hope it gives an idea of the problem
[11:31] <ppf> Beginner: "ignored" means that this repo has no new packages
[11:32] <Beginner> ppf>its more than 3  month since my last update
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Beginner, open your package amanger and remove any ppas you have there, then update and upgrade
[11:33] <ppf> BluesKaj: no ppas in there
[11:33] <BluesKaj> amanger=manager
[11:33] <ppf> Beginner: "apt update" only updates the package meta information
[11:33] <ppf> run sudo apt full-upgrade do actually upgrade the packages
[11:34] <tomreyn> and put this in front: "LANG=C "
[11:34] <tomreyn> so you'll get english output
[11:35] <saju_m> anybody here?
[11:35] <saju_m> I have a doubt
[11:35] <Beginner> running the command
[11:35] <ViciousLooRoll> yeah
[11:36] <saju_m> I have a node which is a part of cassandra, zookeeper and rabbitmq cluster. I what to reboot this node. What are the precautions I should take before restarting this node. Since it part of a cluster, data should auto backup by other nodes in the cluster.But I am afraid to restart it directly. Please suggest some ideas.
[11:36] <Beginner> its cleaning up now (asked me to run : sudo apt autoremove)
[11:39] <tomreyn> saju_m: i think should questions are more suitable for #ubuntu-server
[11:39] <saju_m> tomreyn, ok
[11:39] <Beginner> i using softwareupdate i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23827438/
[11:41] <antihero> Hi, is there a way to install the NVIDIA drivers without all the desktop cruft? We need them for a headless server to do CUDA processing and don't want any extra random processes/xorg/etc
[11:41] <xXEoflaOEXx> Beginner, that means the package files for binary-i386 are not found. but there are Release file on binary-i386 and Packages.gz and .xz.
[11:41] <antihero> but it seems to pull in lightdm, nvidia prime, gstreamer (??)
[11:42] <k1l_> Beginner: this is a desktop? the go to system-settings -> sogtware and updates, and choose a new mirror near you.
[11:42] <Beginner> K1l> it wont find a mirror
[11:42] <k1l_> Beginner: are you using some proxy or vpn?
[11:42] <ducasse> antihero: have you tried with --no-install-recommends?
[11:43] <Beginner> k1l> no proxy/vpn
[11:43] <xXEoflaOEXx> Beginner, then diable binary-i386 for now.
[11:43] <antihero> Ooh that might just do it
[11:43] <tomreyn> why would archive.ubuntu.com resolve, for a DK user, to a softlayer IP address which has no reverse entry and is unroutable?
[11:44] <Beginner> xXEo> how ??
[11:45] <CrazyTux> hello, I got this error when I tried to update Xubuntu 16.04.1 that is installed on my laptop. http://paste.ubuntu.com/23827450/.  What is the issue here?
[11:45] <Beginner> Tomreyn> it started after the distrobution upgrade, i suspect the upgrade isnt finished.
[11:46] <Beginner> ( how do i answer a user directly )
[11:47] <k1l_> Beginner: please show a "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999" output url
[11:47] <BluesKaj> Beginner,  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sourcers.list.d in the run command (alt+F2). remove any ppas listed there , if there aren't any then you must have updated from your previous OS without updating and upgrading your existing packages first.
[11:48] <Beginner> http://termbin.com/6in1
[11:48] <hateball> !who | Beginner
[11:48] <tomreyn> Beginner: the way you responded to me is just fine. you could user : instead of > though
[11:48] <hateball> !tab
[11:49] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: why?
[11:49] <k1l_> Beginner: ok, first go to the system settings again and make sure the "xenial-security" and "xenial-updates" are checked. altough you want to think about enableing restricted ans mutliverse repos there.
[11:50] <BluesKaj> tomreyn, check out his dources
[11:50] <BluesKaj> sources
[11:50] <Beginner> Blueskaj - Looks emply
[11:50] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: the apt update output i saw shows no PPAs configured on Beginner's system. which PPAs did you see configured?
[11:51] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: oh i missed the terminbin paste, sorry
[11:51] <Beginner> K1l - http://paste.ubuntu.com/23827468/
[11:52] <k1l_> Beginner: have you changed anything on the apt configs?
[11:52] <k1l_> like putting a proxy there etc?
[11:53] <Beginner> k1l_: yes, was looking at the internet for solution, tryed a thing or 2
[11:53] <k1l_> Beginner: because that is a proxy server its listing there
[11:53] <tomreyn> BluesKaj:  actually all of those archives are disabled, and i dont think (or hope?) the fact they used to be enabled can explain why archive.ubuntu.com resolves to 199.115.117.212
[11:54] <Beginner> k1l_: i havent put in a proxy on purpose, how do i remove it ??
[11:54] <k1l_> Beginner: "cat /etc/apt/apt.conf | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:55] <Beginner> k1l_: http://termbin.com/k93f
[11:55] <k1l_> Beginner: sudo rm /etc/apt/apt.conf
[11:55] <BluesKaj> tomreyn, I think he didn't update and upgrade befioe upgrading from wily
[11:56] <k1l_> Beginner: after that, run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" again
[11:56] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: possibly, but i think the major issue here is that something or someone placed a proxy on his apt.conf without his knowledge
[11:56] <BluesKaj> yeah to seems so
[11:56] <Beginner> BluesKaj: ur probably right.
[11:56] <tomreyn> or maybe s/he just forgot
[11:57] <BluesKaj> tomreyn,^
[11:57] <Beginner> k1l> it still tryes to connect to the proxy
[11:58] <k1l_> Beginner: is "cat /etc/apt/apt.conf" is it still there?
[11:59] <Beginner> k1l_: no, using same command as before, it says no such file
[11:59] <ducasse> or in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ ?
[11:59] <tomreyn> Beginner: cat /etc/apt/apt.conf /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:59] <tomreyn> without the trailing "
[12:00] <Beginner> tomreyn: http://termbin.com/bpai
[12:00] <user__> hi
[12:01] <MoL0ToV> i can't print a pdf from ubuntu, someone can help me to debug?
[12:01] <xXEoflaOEXx> hi user__
[12:01] <user__> thx
[12:01] <user__> just looking around never been here before
[12:01] <xXEoflaOEXx> user__, Do you have any Ubuntu questions?
[12:01] <tomreyn> Beginner: what makes you think "it still tryes to connect to the proxy", and what is "it"?
[12:02] <user__> not at the moment thx but i will aks later wehen i finished my setup
[12:02] <Beginner> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23827500/
[12:03] <user__> so cy and thx @ community
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Beginner, it could be set in "systensettings>network settings, not sure where to find them in unity or gnome
[12:03] <Beginner> tomreyn: i thought i recognised the ip
[12:03] <k1l_> Beginner: did you set a system proxy?
[12:03] <BluesKaj> the proxy that is
[12:03] <Beginner> k1l_: not on purpose
[12:04] <MoL0ToV> i can't print a pdf from ubuntu, someone can help me to debug?
[12:04] <k1l_> Beginner: then please look at the system setings -> network for ti
[12:05] <xXEoflaOEXx> !patuence | MoL0ToV, Please do not repeat your question.
[12:05] <Beginner> k1l, BluesKaj , tomreyn > found a proxysetting, removed it
[12:05] <xXEoflaOEXx> !patience | MoL0ToV, Please do not repeat your question.
[12:06] <tomreyn> Beginner: good, does "sudo apt-get update" now run fine, and what is the output now?
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Beginner, ok try the update and upgrade
[12:07] <Beginner> tomreyn, k1l_ , BluesKaj > http://paste.ubuntu.com/23827512/
[12:08] <k1l_> ok, were did you put the proxy in else?
[12:08] <Beginner> i removed the proxy in system settings/network and put it to auto
[12:09] <tomreyn> sudo grep -rF 199.115.117.212 /etc 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:09] <tomreyn> Beginner: ^ please run this
[12:09] <k1l_> maybe its in .profile or /etc/ profile, or environment
[12:10] <tomreyn> if it's global and provided as an ip address, the grep will show
[12:10] <tomreyn> if it's in the user profile, we should check ~/.config and maybe ~/.local, i guess?
[12:11] <k1l_> and .profile
[12:11] <tomreyn> right
[12:11] <ducasse> and .xsessionrc
[12:11] <Beginner> tomreyn: sudo grep -rF 199.115.117.212 /etc 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:11] <Beginner> tomreyn: > sry
[12:12] <Beginner> tomreyn: http://termbin.com/pofy
[12:12] <BluesKaj> wonder if someone setup iptables on his machine ... Beginner are you in a work environment ?
[12:13] <tomreyn> Beginner: remove this line off /etc/environment: http_proxy="http://199.115.117.212:80/"
[12:13] <Beginner> BluesKaj: no, private machine, only for learning ubuntu
[12:13] <BluesKaj> needs root permissions to so I bet
[12:13] <BluesKaj> do
[12:13] <tomreyn> right
[12:14] <Beginner> tomreyn: > how do i remove it
[12:14] <tomreyn> Beginner: gksudo gedit /etc/environment
[12:14] <tomreyn> Beginner: did you install this ubuntu yourself (initially, before you upgraded it)?
[12:16] <Beginner> tom> its been upgraded (dist) several times, i think this machine has been running for 3 years or more
[12:16] <tomreyn> Beginner: i see. this doesn't actually answer the question, though.
[12:16] <Beginner> tomreyn, k1l_ BluesKaj > now things starts to change
[12:17] <Beginner> tomreyn: > sry, then i misunderstood, i try to read it again
[12:18] <Beginner> tomreyn: yes, i installed and upgraded myself
[12:19] <tomreyn> Beginner: do you share this computer with someone else then?
[12:19] <Beginner> tomreyn: no sharing, only myself to blame
[12:20] <tomreyn> Beginner: i'm asking because this proxy server, which looks dubious, and which you do not remember configuring, has been configured pretty much everywhere in your system, so that all of your internet traffic went through it.
[12:21] <tomreyn> this would allow someone else to snoop on all the things you do online as long as they are not encrypted (SSL/TLS).
[12:21] <neenee> yup
[12:21] <Beginner> tomreyn: i probably (at some point) tryed to play with proxy and forgot it.
[12:22] <Beginner> tomreyn: as i said, only myself to blame
[12:22] <tomreyn> Beginner: okay, so you decided to share your internet traffic with an unknown thrid party yourself.
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Beginner, is this a vpn proxy option?
[12:23] <Beginner> tomreyn: > not on purpose
[12:24] <Beginner> BluesKaj: > it could be, probably some free proxy from a proxylist
[12:24] <royal_screwup21> I'm on Ubuntu and am looking for a way to check for the last file downloaded into my PC. Is there a terminal command for that?
[12:24] <tomreyn> Beginner: i'm not saying this to blame you, just to raise your awareness so you'll think twice about using "anyonmous internet proxy" next time. ;)
[12:24] <Beginner> BluesKaj, tomreyn > i know i played with tor and proxy at some point
[12:24] <BluesKaj> Beginner, free proxies and vpns are suspect security-wise
[12:25] <Beginner> tomreyn: > im not taking this as blame, and i appreciate your concern
[12:25] <k1l_> royal_screwup21: look at the browser download tool
[12:25] <tomreyn> Beginner: cool :)
[12:25] <neenee> royal_screwup21: find / -ctime 5
[12:25] <neenee> royal_screwup21: if it was within the last 5 minutes, otherwise extend
[12:26] <thgilfodrol> :o I'm currently setting up a proxy on my ubuntu laptop and I see this conversation
[12:26] <royal_screwup21> Awesome, thanks you guys!
[12:26] <Beginner> BluesKaj: i know, but this is a learning laptop, i could have formatted it, and reinstalled, but i like to learn, and i did thx
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Beginner, 50bucks /yr gives me relative internet anonymity with paid vpn
[12:28] <Beginner> tomreyn, k1l_ , BluesKaj > its still running in the apt-get update /upgrade, seems u solved my problem... thx a lot
[12:29] <BluesKaj> Beginner, happy to hear you're back on track ;-)
[12:29] <Beginner> BluesKaj: yes, could be i should start to pay up ;)
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Beginner, it's worth every penny, to me at least
[12:31] <BluesKaj> I use PIA btw
[12:32] <Beginner> BluesKaj, tomreyn, k1l_ > how do i remove all the danish language, and run solely on english/us.. im a bit tired of the danish desktop
[12:33] <BluesKaj> system locale and language
[12:33] <Beginner> BluesKaj: i tryed that before, didnt work.. but i might need a system restart ??
[12:34] <tomreyn> Beginner: logout + login will be needed for some applications to catch up on it.
[12:34] <Beginner> tomreyn: > ok
[12:34] <BluesKaj> Beginner, dunno, my system has always been english, so i have no experience with switching it
[12:35] <tomreyn> Beginner: i'd say finish those upgrades first before you logout, though. (you'll need to reboot then anyways)
[12:35] <Beginner> blues> yeah, this danish language install was an error
[12:35] <Beginner> tomreyn: yes, i will wait
[12:36] <royal_screwup21> I'm trying to look up ls -rt on the man page, so I typed in "man ls | grep -rt". What am I doing wrong?
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Beginner, it's given that you need to finish your updates/upgrades before doiung wnything else
[12:36] <tatertots> royal_screwup21: try just "man ls"
[12:37] <BluesKaj> needs more light on the KB
[12:37] <Beginner> BluesKaj: yes :)
[12:40] <ioria> royal_screwup21, man ls | grep  ' -r\|-t'
[12:45] <BluesKaj> royal_screwup21, why do you insist on posting in multiple chats ?
[12:46] <secross> Anybody here use CUPS?
[12:46] <tatertots> secross: of course
[12:46] <BluesKaj> I'd invoke the bot on this but I've forgotten the phrase
[12:47] <tatertots> secross: printer not working?...what model printer
[12:49] <secross> I cannot seem to add an instance to my epson c88 for using other default printer settiongs
[12:52] <rcspam> Hi, my system is Xenial... I have lost all icons (indicators,time,etc) in my unity-panel. This is happened after a stop a fullscreen video. Since, some compiz/unity reset + remove config files doesn't solve the problem. If i am logging to another user, same things. An idea to fix this !!!??? thanx
[12:58] <yong> 有人没有
[12:58] <yong> anybody here
[12:59] <k1l_> yong: yes, some are here. what is your question?
[13:03] <Eagle357> hello guy i've a problem i cant connect my ethernet on my ubuntu 16.10 can you help me ?
[13:03] <secross754> sure.
[13:03] <Mitchell> hi gas
[13:05] <Eagle357> the wifi start but not ethernet
[13:06] <secross754> eagle357: what does ifconfig say?
[13:07] <kbob> ifconfig -a
[13:07] <tatertots> Eagle357: can you open terminal? so we can get a more detailed look into your issue
[13:08] <Eagle357> ham0: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 1404
[13:08] <Eagle357>         inet6 fe80::7879:ff:fe00:0  prefixlen 64  scopeid 0x20<link>
[13:08] <Eagle357>         ether 7a:79:00:00:00:00  txqueuelen 1000  (Ethernet)
[13:08] <Eagle357>         RX packets 0  bytes 0 (0.0 B)
[13:08] <Eagle357>         RX errors 0  dropped 0  overruns 0  frame 0
[13:08] <Eagle357>         TX packets 155  bytes 15318 (15.3 KB)
[13:10] <Eagle357> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23827698/
[13:13] <tatertots> Eagle357: hi
[13:14] <secross754> eth0 seems to be missing from /etc/network/interfaces?
[13:14] <tatertots> Eagle357: nevermind...i'm out of patience..good luck with that
[13:14] <ikonia> eth0 is not the default name any more
[13:14] <ikonia> it depends on your card the name of the interface
[13:15] <neenee> + it does not have to be in interfaces if you make use of a connection manager
[13:16] <ikonia> connection manager ?
[13:16] <Eagle357> since i've upgrade ubuntu i've this problem
[13:16] <kbob> Eagle357: setup the ethernet ham0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[13:16] <ikonia> do you meen network manager ?
[13:17] <ikonia> one or the other
[13:17] <ikonia> do not use network manager AND the interfaces file
[13:17] <secross754> so he uses dhcp?
[13:17] <ikonia> Eagle357: you're using mate dektop yes ?
[13:17] <ikonia> desktop
[13:17] <Eagle357> yes
[13:18] <ikonia> Eagle357: so you should be using network manager from the desktop why are you looking at the interface file ?
[13:18] <ikonia> Eagle357: what model Pi is it ?
[13:20] <Eagle357> i'vnt eth so i've this before i upgrade
[13:20] <ikonia> upgrade ?
[13:21] <Eagle357> yes i upgrade ubuntu 16.04 to 16.10
[13:21] <ikonia> so lets step back a little
[13:21] <zkl_> hgrooms
[13:21] <ikonia> are you using network-manager application to manage your network ?
[13:23] <Eagle357> no i cant it blocks when i write the command in the terminal
[13:23] <ikonia> what command ?
[13:24] <Eagle357> start network-manager
[13:24] <ikonia> why are you typing that
[13:25] <ikonia> network manager is integrated into the desktop
[13:25] <nwe> hello I have a strange problem  I have setup preseed file for my uefi.. but it dont overrite my configuration if I reinstall the server..
[13:26] <Gonzo89> "nslookup mydomain.tld" return an old IP using Server 127.0.1.1. but "nslookup mydomain.tld 8.8.8.8" returns the new ip. In the network manager i configured 8.8.8.8 as my primary dns, why isn't it used when i execute nslookup without a specific server?
[13:26] <Eagle357> where is it because i use MATE since one week
[13:26] <Richard_Cavell> Is there an option to the ls command that will allow me to see "all" files (including those normally hidden) ?
[13:26] <ikonia> Gonzo89: because ubuntu uses dnsmasq (a local dns forwarding server) by default
[13:28] <ikonia> Eagle357: so lets step back futher
[13:28] <ikonia> Eagle357: you had this woring in 16.04 ?
[13:28] <Gonzo89> ikonia: but shouldn't it forwarding the request to the primary dns which is 8.8.8.8?
[13:28] <Eagle357> no just since 16.10
[13:29] <neenee> 16.10 has quite a few issues, I'll stick with 16.04
[13:29] <ikonia> Gonzo89: how did you set your primary dns to 8.8.8
[13:29] <ikonia> Eagle357: so it's never worked then ?
[13:30] <Gonzo89> settings > network ipv4 configuration and then choose manually to enter a DNS-Server
[13:31] <Eagle357> since 16.10 it's never worked
[13:31] <ikonia> Gonzo89: so you're using Network Manager to configure a dns server manually ?
[13:31] <Gonzo89> ikonia: yes
[13:32] <ikonia> Gonzo89: so what makes you think it's not working then (sorry if I'm missing the context)
[13:32] <ikonia> Eagle357: how did you configure it in 16.04 ?
[13:32] <Gonzo89> ikonia: nslookup domain.tld => old ip (server: 127.0.1.1)| nslookup domain.tld 8.8.8.8 => new ip. If 127.0.1.1 is forwarding the request to my primary dns, which is 8.8.8.8 the result of both commands should be the same
[13:33] <neenee> alternatively you can edit /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf - add supersede domain-name-servers 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4
[13:33] <ikonia> Gonzo89: dnsmasq is probably caching
[13:33] <neenee> that will make it system-wide for all connections
[13:33] <ikonia> neenee: thats no different than what he's done in network manager
[13:33] <ikonia> apart from you've forced in a configure file that may cause problems if he moves locations
[13:34] <Gonzo89> ikonia: ok. one think i notice. In /etc/resolv.conf there is no 8.8.8.8
[13:34] <ikonia> Gonzo89: there shouldn't be
[13:34] <ikonia> Gonzo89: 127.0.0.1 is the correct address as thats where your local caching name server is listening (dnsmasq)
[13:34] <Gonzo89> ikonia: ok can i see if the cache is used?
[13:34] <ikonia> Gonzo89: quickest way is to reboot
[13:34] <neenee> ikonia: I use it specifically to force dns on laptops which move locations, but indeed - it might not be what he needs.
[13:34] <Gonzo89> ikonia: cache is deleted on every reboot?
[13:34] <ikonia> Gonzo89: nework manager launches dnsmasq for you, so just  reboot sould flush and restart it
[13:34] <ikonia> Gonzo89: it is I think, it's not held on disk
[13:35] <Gonzo89> I change ip yesterday and reboot today
[13:35] <ikonia> Gonzo89: your IP doesn't matter
[13:35] <Gonzo89> ikonia: But i reboot today and still get the old ip
[13:35] <ikonia> Gonzo89: hang on then
[13:36] <ikonia> Gonzo89: (is this after you set the ip of the dns servers in network manager)
[13:36] <Gonzo89> No i set 8.8.8.8 as my primary dns a month ago
[13:36] <rcspam> Hi, my system is Xenial... I have lost all icons (indicators,time,etc) in my unity-panel. This is happened after a stop a fullscreen video. Since, some compiz/unity reset + remove config files doesn't solve the problem. If i am logging to another user, same things. An idea to fix this !!!??? thanx
[13:37] <ikonia> Gonzo89: ok, so if you run this "nmcli device show <interfacename> | grep IP4.DNS" (replace interface with your ineterface name) what dns servers do you get back
[13:38] <Gonzo89> ikonia: IP4.DNS[1]:                             8.8.8.8
[13:38] <ikonia> Gonzo89: so you are using 8.8.8.8
[13:38] <ikonia> Gonzo89: how many network interfaces do you have on your machine that are in use
[13:40] <Gonzo89> ikonia: I'm not sure how to tell. I have 1 network card. ifconfig show enp1s0 which is my real card and lo and vboxnet0 (i use virtualbox)
[13:41] <ikonia> Gonzo89: ok, so you should only be using dns off one provider then
[13:41] <ikonia> lets look at the record, whats the host/ip you're looking up
[13:42] <glachas> ubuntu 14.04.5 , 4gb RAM ,i5-processor - config of my system. Its running too slow. When I am switching between the windows , its stop for a while and then get switched. Any solution plz?
[13:42] <ikonia> glachas: that sounds more like your video card config than your system resources
[13:42] <glachas> ikonia: you can say
[13:42] <ikonia> ?
[13:43] <glachas> it means you are right
[13:43] <neenee> like 'you can say that again' :)
[13:43] <OerHeks> glachas, what videocard exactly? lspci | grep VGA
[13:44] <glachas> neenee: :D
[13:45] <glachas> OerHeks: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics (rev 09)
[13:47] <neenee> I use the same graphics card
[13:47] <neenee> though perhaps not the same model, i915 here
[13:47] <OerHeks> This post gives a workaround, changing UXA to SNA http://askubuntu.com/questions/625978/graphics-and-font-problem-in-ubuntu-14-04-with-intel-broadwell-u-integrated-grap
[13:47] <OerHeks> ( you need to write your own xorg.conf)
[13:47] <sylar> okay so i have a noobish doubt here..
[13:48] <sylar> whats the error in this :./firstscript: line 2: [: missing `]'
[13:48] <neenee> I am running 16.04 though, not 14.04
[13:49] <sylar> line 2 is the if statement which goes like : if [$d == 'y']
[13:49] <Gonzo89> ikonia: mh now i get the correct ip. i tried "sudo service network-manager restart" after it nslookup domain.tld still return old ip. after a while i tried nslookup domain.tld 127.0.1.1 and get the correct ip. now nslookup domain.tld also returns the correct ip
[13:49] <OerHeks> sylar,  post your script on paste.ubuntu.com, missing ' ??
[13:49] <Gonzo89> ikonia: not sure why its working now but at least its working
[13:51] <Gonzo89> ikonia: thx for help
[13:53] <sylar> oerheks : i pasted t
[13:53] <Vamp898> Hi there. Due to an new dependency "libandroid-properties1", unattended-upgrade is holding back the upgrades of packages like docker-engine. I tried APT::Get::Upgrade-Allow-New "true"; but still, no luck...
[13:54] <sylar> can u check whats wrong? since i just started scripting and i think i may have made a stupid mistake..but i cant figure out what
[13:54] <minimec> sylar: We need the link to your paste... ;)
[13:54] <OerHeks> sylar, give us the url please?
[13:54] <mcphail> sylar: make sure you have spaces around square brackets
[13:55] <Vamp898> sorry, used /quit where i did not want to :D so i haven't read any response i might got
[13:55] <sylar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23827857/
[13:56] <minimec> sylar: if [ $1 == "y"]
[13:56] <OerHeks> minimec +1
[13:57] <ikonia> Gonzo89: it was cache then
[13:57] <ikonia> Gonzo89: so cache must be disk - not memeory as I thought
[13:58] <sylar> minimec still the same error
[13:59] <Vamp898> with apt upgrade, the upgrade just runs fine btw. So only unattended-upgrade is complaining
[13:59] <ikonia> Vamp898: apt upgrade is different than an unttended-upgrade
[14:00] <Vamp898> ikonia: i know. but at least this shows there is no "general" problem with some repos or whatever
[14:00] <ikonia> it shows nothing
[14:00] <ikonia> Vamp898: upgrading repo cache, is very different to actually perfoming a software upgrade
[14:01] <Vamp898> ikonia: apt upgrade is performing an software upgrade, at least on my Ubuntu 14.04.5 i have here
[14:02] <Vamp898> ikonia: so anyway. Is there a way to tell unattended-upgrade to also run upgrades when depdency changes?
[14:04] <ikonia> Vamp898: it will just update packages
[14:04] <ikonia> the dependency changes ?
[14:04] <ikonia> dependencies are handled by the packages
[14:08] <CrazyTux> hi, is there any package for Ubuntu for sharing files between PC and mobile phones or tablets, like shareit?
[14:08] <neenee> why not use airdroid - browser based?
[14:08] <Vamp898> ikonia: yes. But unattended-upgrade is holding back packages when their dependencys are changing. here: http://pastebin.com/SC3M8hMK
[14:08] <CrazyTux> I have Xubuntu installed on my laptop and have an android based tablet.
[14:09] <ikonia> Vamp898: and what repos are those packages held in.....
[14:10] <Vamp898> ikonia: the most recend version seems to be in trusty-security and trusty-updates (at least the version he wants to upgrade to)
[14:11] <ikonia> Vamp898: are those repos enabled, can you manually upgrade those packages ?
[14:11] <Vamp898> ikonia: yes and yes
[14:12] <ikonia> Vamp898: ok, so that means it's the unattended definition that probably isn't aware of those repos
[14:12] <ikonia> Vamp898: http://www.richud.com/wiki/Ubuntu_Enable_Automatic_Updates_Unattended_Upgrades for example
[14:12] <ikonia> the 50 file
[14:12] <ducasse> Vamp898: you need to enable -updates in the unattended-upgrades conf file
[14:12] <Vamp898> ikonia: ducasse: right now i have -security, -updates, -proposed and -backports enabled
[14:13] <k1l_> -proposed is only for automated testings. dont use that as a enduser
[14:14] <Vamp898> k1l_: i enabled it for the sake of testing, it is not enabled per default (also backports is not enabled per default)
[14:14] <BluesKaj> proposed is dangerous
[14:14] <Vamp898> But for the sake of reference, behavior doesn't change when i disable -proposed and -backports
[14:14] <BluesKaj> Vamp898, only use it when the devs tell you to
[14:15] <k1l_> backports is a special thing. since its enabled but you need to specific the use of backports when wanting to install
[14:16] <ikonia> Vamp898: lets have a look at your unattended config file, as if you have the repos you say enabled there should be zero reason to fail dependency checks
[14:18] <Vamp898> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/hrEwGZHv
[14:19] <ikonia> Vamp898: so remove backports and proposed
[14:19] <ikonia> Vamp898: it's possible they could be causing unresolable dependencies for your current config
[14:19] <Vamp898> ikonia: like that? http://pastebin.com/igTdAmth
[14:20] <ikonia> Vamp898: thats the idea, yes
[14:20] <Vamp898> ikonia: same result...
[14:22] <Vamp898> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/6xcPtMQv
[14:26] <BluesKaj> what's wrong with normal apt updates/upgraqdes , why do we need unattended upgrades if we update and upgrade a couple times per week , or especially daily ?
[14:27] <Vamp898> BluesKaj: normal apt update/upgrade doesn't run unattended
[14:27] <BluesKaj> Vamp898, whynor ?
[14:28] <BluesKaj> whynot
[14:29] <ikonia> BluesKaj: what happens if you run "apt-cache policy liboxideqt-qmlplugin"
[14:29] <neenee> because you want to consciously check package updates, you might not agree with what packages/versions it installs.
[14:30] <neenee> especially on a server, there can be breakage resulting in outage of services, not good for customers/business
[14:30] <ikonia> BluesKaj: sorry that wasn't for you
[14:30] <BluesKaj> ikonia, not installed
[14:30] <ikonia> Vamp898: what happens if you run "apt-cache policy liboxideqt-qmlplugin"
[14:30] <ikonia> BluesKaj: sorry that wasn't meant for vamp as one of the broken packages
[14:31] <BluesKaj> ok, I wondered ikonia , no harm done
[14:31] <Vamp898> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/pWZVvks3
[14:33] <ikonia> Vamp898: that version bump is MASSSIVE
[14:33] <ikonia> Vamp898: that really doesn't look right somehow
[14:35] <ikonia> !info liboxideqt-qmlplugin
[14:35] <ikonia> !info liboxideqt-qmlplugin trusty
[14:36] <ikonia> so the version is correct,
[14:36] <ikonia> Vamp898: the question I'd ask first is how/where does unattended upgrades store/hold the repo cache
[14:36] <ikonia> Vamp898: that I don't know off the top of my head
[14:38] <Vamp898> ikonia: does it have its own cache? i expected it to use the apt-cache
[14:41] <root-owner> Hi
[14:41] <root-owner> Hello
[14:41] <root-owner> Hi jnoob22
[15:03] <DolphinDream> howdy
[15:03] <xXEoflaOEXx> Hi DolphinDream!
[15:05] <DolphinDream> for 16.04.. (if version matters) what is the recommended partitioning scheme? is the swap partition still necessary/recommended? Is the RAM size a decisive factor whether you have to have a swap or not or is it better to have a swap no matter what?  I have 8GB Ram on my system. and currently have set 10GB of swap (not sure why i chose 2GB more than the ram size)
[15:07] <neenee> It is good to have swap no matter what
[15:07] <mcphail> DolphinDream: I haven't used swap for years, but some people have seen problems with the OOM killer on machines with no swap. You will need swap if you want to hibernate, though
[15:08] <neenee> diskspace is very cheap, so it does not hurt that much
[15:08] <noimnotninevolt> i figured swap on ssd is more likely to burn cells faster...
[15:09] <DolphinDream> noimnotninevolt: how come?
[15:10] <neenee> If you are using an SSD drive, it can be a good idea to keep part of it (10%, or up to 10GB) unpartitioned
[15:10] <DolphinDream> mcphail: i see. i see neenee has a differnet opinion though :)
[15:10] <DolphinDream> neenee: why leave unpartitioned ?
[15:11] <tgm4883> neenee: why is that a good idea?
[15:13] <neenee> hm
[15:13] <neenee> I read various sources, but I fear that is old information now, outdated
[15:14] <DolphinDream> can someone explain why are there so many duplicate listings for desktop/server on this page: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ ? the links to the seem to be the same.
[15:14] <neenee> my bad
[15:14] <neenee> They still recommend it here and there, but in short - filling it entirely is fine, to make sure that writes are spread out across the entire disk, to use the same space over and over as little as possible
[15:15] <Vamp898>  I haven't setup an swap since 5 years and had no problems till now. Processes taking up to much memory should get killed by the OOM killer if the kernel is setup properly so you never should run into kernel panics due to not enough free memory. on the other hand the speed of your swap can kill your system
[15:15] <k1l_> DolphinDream: look at the names. its 32bit and 64bit and then there is the 16.04.1 with the "servicepack" included already
[15:16] <OerHeks> DolphinDream, it contains 16.04 AND 16.04.1 ( confusing, i know)
[15:17] <DolphinDream> k1l_:  i see desktop 64/32 .. then server 64/32 (for 16.04.1) .. then desktop 64/32 .. then server 64/32 (for 16.04) .. then one more server 64/32 (again for 16.04)
[15:19] <k1l_> DolphinDream: as i explained, the 16.04.1 are the isos with the "service pack" (that is what its named on windows. on ubuntu we call that "point release") included already. so it includes already a lot of updates since the release in april 2016
[15:19] <tgm4883> DolphinDream: the last server is a .img file
[15:19] <tgm4883> not .iso
[15:20] <Ramon_> I have plans on running ubuntu on a usb stick, alongside windows (which is on the main drive of this laptop). Thing is, how will I handle grub and all? Doesn't it need the ubuntu partition to work correctly? I need a system where the ubuntu drive can be easily booted, while windows must be able to boot without the stick inserted.
[15:21] <tgm4883> DolphinDream: actually, you're right, two of those links are wrong
[15:21] <neenee> Ramon_: you could make a USB stick with ubuntu + persistence, no need to install grub on the harddisk/make any changes on it
[15:21] <tgm4883> k1l_: who would we even notify about that?
[15:21] <Ramon_> Hmm, that sounds like an idea
[15:22] <tgm4883> oh wait, nm
[15:22] <tgm4883> I should go get coffee before trying to look at things....
[15:22] <neenee> Ramon_: you can use www.linuxliveusb.com - it supports persistence out of the box when you create a usb stick with that
[15:24] <Ramon_> kewl. Thanks!
[15:27] <akik> ramon_g: you can also install ubuntu on a usb stick
[15:28] <bgardner> Good morning!  I have a 14.04 box that had been flawless up until about 2 weeks ago, when the mouse started acting 'bogged down' every 5 seconds or so.  I replaced batteries, changed USB port, etc and it persisted.  I took this to be my last hint that it was time to upgrade, so I did do-release-upgrade yesterday.  Now I'm 16.04 and all is well, but the mouse issue persists.  Tips on how I can further diag
[15:28] <bgardner> nose this?
[15:29] <plasticfish> bgardner, maybe it's the mouse, have you tried it in another system?
[15:30] <bgardner> plasticfish: No, I will do that now
[15:30] <ducasse> bgardner: or another mouse in this system?
[15:31] <DolphinDream> tgm4883: yeah. that's what i thought. and to make it less confusing perhaps the text should specify (patch.. or 16.04.1)
[15:31] <tgm4883> DolphinDream: there's not a problem, I was reading the links wrong. I wish they would just get rid of those links and send everyone to the list below, that would get rid of the confusion
[15:31] <tgm4883> DolphinDream: actually, new users shouldn't end up on that page anyway I don't think
[15:32] <bgardner> ducasse, plasticfish: Doing both of those things now, give me a bit to see what happens and I will report back
[15:32] <DolphinDream> tgm4883: ? new users? if you google ubuntu 16 .04 download.. that's what you get
[15:33] <Vamp898> DolphinDream: blaim google
[15:33] <tgm4883> DolphinDream: new users should end up on https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[15:33] <Vamp898> *blame
[15:33] <jayjo> Does anyone know how to reverse a gif with ImageMagick, and then stitch it to the original gif so it loops forward and backwards perfectly?
[15:33] <DolphinDream> Vamp898: sure :) damn you google
[15:33] <jayjo> Or is there an online tool to do this?
[15:33] <Vamp898> DolphinDream: i always do that after i finished yelling at clouds
[15:33] <tgm4883> DolphinDream: you ended up on the alternative downloads page because of Google, not a whole lot we can do about that
[15:34] <DolphinDream> tgm4883: not a whole  :) adding 14.06.1 to the description is a little thing.. and getting rid of the extra server links is just a minor cleanup :)
[15:34] <tgm4883> DolphinDream: there are no extra server links
[15:36] <DolphinDream> tgm4883:  oh.. so the last server links are to *.img files .. the others are *.iso .. i see.
[15:37] <akik> i don't see a problem linking to that download page. if you're going to install a machine from an iso file it's expected that you know what you're looking for
[15:38] <oh4> is kernel live patching supported on ubuntu 16.10 or is that only on 16.04 LTS?
[15:38] <k1l_> DolphinDream: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[15:39] <OerHeks> oh4, 16.04 LTS only, iirc
[15:39] <k1l_> DolphinDream: that is the regular landing page where you get the download
[15:39] <oh4> k thanks
[15:39] <DolphinDream> k1l_:  i meant from this page: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[15:39] <k1l_> DolphinDream: yes, but this is not the regular download page for users.
[15:39] <OerHeks> https://www.ubuntu.com/server/livepatch
[15:40] <tgm4883> k1l_: I agree that's the page for new users, but I'll also concede that the top half of the releases page is unnecessarily obscure
[15:40] <DolphinDream> k1l_:  i understand that.. but if a user ends up on this page (for whatever reason.. be it google or not) they will be confused. it's easy to fix the page inconsistency.. or not make that page visible to the google searches if no one is  supposed to see it.
[15:40] <k1l_> DolphinDream: you googled your way into the alternative downloads site. if you know your wanting a alternative download page imho you can handle that alternative webpage
[15:41] <DolphinDream> either way. i already installed my U16.. i don't care. i just pointed out in case someone wants to take the time to correct it.
[15:41] <mozammel> Hi guys, good evening. I'm looking for any software which can correct my all mp3's meta data. such if as If I play some song and "shazam" (android App) can find exactly which song I'm play.
[15:41] <bgardner> plasticfish, ducasse:  I'm red-faced that I didn't start with the hardware, but that does appear to be it.  Thanks for the (blindingly obvious) tip!
[15:41] <DolphinDream> k1l_:  i googled ubuntu 16.04 download.. and clicked on the first link. nothing special there. anyone else would have done the same thing.
[15:42] <tgm4883> k1l_: The point being he accidently ended up there by googleing "ubuntu 16.04 download" or something to that affect
[15:45] <noimnotninevolt> i agree, those links need better descriptions.
[15:45] <noimnotninevolt> i had the same thoughts when i was looking at them recently. took a while to notice that the hrefs for some point to 16.04.1
[15:46] <noimnotninevolt> there's literally no mention of different versions outside of the hrefs.
[15:46] <jesus_> hola
[15:46] <k1l_> DolphinDream: tgm4883 i guess you could file a  bug with more suitable descriptions on launchpad.
[15:46] <tgm4883> k1l_: against ubuntu website? Or is there a better place for it?
[15:49] <k1l_> tgm4883: i guess against the cdmirrors team
[15:50] <nwe> doesn ubuntu has something simular IPAPPEND 2 ksdevice=bootif ?
[16:08] <yeeve> when hosting files with apache in ubuntu, should I be worrying about setting the setgid bit so my CLI work creates files as www-data still or is that overklill/bad?
[16:08] <Herbalist> mozammel try Kid3
[16:10] <Guest44706> Hi I've got sources.list configured with the mirror:// protocol, but the selected mirror is unreachable how can I avoid this situation?
[16:11] <Guest44706> The mirror apt selected is mirrordenver.fdcservers.net (76.73.4.58)
[16:15] <bjt>  irc.irchighway.net
[16:16] <akik> Guest44706: remove that mirror from /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[16:16] <mivance> seeing odd interactions with 16.04 and ubuntu mysql packages with apparmor, specifically apparmor forbidding mysqld to read /proc/*/status, as well as /sys/devices/system/node
[16:16] <mivance> anyone encountered similar?
[16:16] <mivance> some hints towards it here https://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=82454
[16:17] <mivance> but this is with official ubuntu mysql packages
[16:17] <mivance> e.g. Version: 5.7.17-0ubuntu0.16.04.1
[16:17] <Guest44706> akik: It's not specifically in sources.list. sources.list has the `deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt` as the only configured mirrors
[16:18] <akik> Guest44706: ok sorry i don't know then
[16:18] <Guest44706> ok thanks anyway
[16:20] <Guest44706> hmm seems to be a known problem with no fix
[16:20] <Guest44706> https://askubuntu.com/questions/319433/making-mirror-mirrors-ubuntu-com-highly-available
[16:20] <Guest44706> *no fix that keeps using mirror:// protocol
[16:24] <zhar> Hi, I have a problem with my dual screen setup. The screens are the same model, with my previous setup (2xDVI on NVIDIA) everything was fine. With my new NVIDIA card (1050Ti 1xDVI, 1xHDMI), the screen connected to the HDMI (tried both screens) has a weird resolution and color setting. With a particular timing of turning the screens on during boot, the problem goes away and both screen get the same resolution&color settings.
[16:24] <zhar> Where can I find help for my problem?
[16:24] <Rudemeister> hi all, I am struggling with a JRE libraries are missing or not compatible...., any clues? Or is it just /tmp size which is nod adequate?
[16:35] <minimec> zhar: Which one is the 'primary screen'? You could first try to change this setting in the nvidia settings GUI
[16:36] <minimec> zhar: Type 'xrandr' in a terminal to figure out the 'primary screen'
[16:36] <zhar> @minimec, I tried to set the primary screen on both outputs, same result.
[16:36] <zhar> @minimec, the one connected to HDMI seems zoomed in
[16:37] <zhar> the reported resolution is set correct
[16:37] <zhar> @minimec, one weired redult with xrand is the different screen size. 510mm x 287mm for the DVI, 160mm x 90mm for the HDMI
[16:38] <minimec> zhar: If you only boot with one screen activates (hdmi). Is the resolution correct?
[16:38] <zhar> @minimec, no. HDMi still wired.
[16:38] <zhar> Only with a fast turning on of both screens during boot in a correct sequence (HDMI then DVI) the problem goes away
[16:39] <zhar> But the time window is very short, like 2 sec. It is very annoying
[16:39] <nishttal> why is time ALWAYS behind by 5 hrs on my fresh install ???
[16:39] <nishttal> i've checked the timezone is correctly set to NY
[16:40] <mivance> nishttal: we had a VM that was always setting itself to 2030 ~30 minutes after boot; spent hours trying to figure out why to no avail; eventually blamed evil spirits, built a new VM
[16:40] <minimec> zhar: So it could be, that the card is not recognizing the screen correctly.
[16:40] <mivance> this was on a 14.x LTS vintage
[16:40] <minimec> zhar: What does /etc/X11/xorg.conf tell you about the HDMI screen?
 i've checked the timezone is correctly set to NY <== does ntp is enabled and working?
[16:41] <ikevin> does your bios have the correct time?
[16:41] <zhar> @minimec, Ops I found the solution right now on ubuntuforum. It is the overscan.
[16:41] <minimec> zhar: Ok. ;)
[16:41] <zhar> @minimac, thanks for your time
[16:41] <minimec> zhar: no problem
[16:42] <DolphinDream> what is the recommended SWAP size relative to the RAM size?
[16:42] <SchrodingersScat> DolphinDream: depends, used to be that if you wanted hibernation then you needed at least 2x swap, but idk if that's even a thing anymore.  Outside of that it's personal preference?
[16:43] <SchrodingersScat> or was it 1x?
[16:43] <DolphinDream> i have a 10GB swap for 8GB of RAM :)
[16:44] <DolphinDream> no idea how i came to this number i set years ago
[16:44] <nishttal> ikevin, did not check the bios
[16:44] <nishttal> ikevin, how do i check if ntp is running?
[16:44] <ikevin> nishttal, service ntp status
[16:45] <OerHeks> DolphinDream, ram size + some bytes more, if you do automatic, you can recalculate it. 10 gb should do though
[16:45] <nishttal> ikevin, "Unit ntp.service could not be found."
[16:46] <minimec> DolphinDream: That is one of the most asked questions, and also a hard one to answer. Until 4GB I would take 2xRAM if you have the space. Starting with 8GB I would ask myself if I want to 'hibernate'. If no I would take less than 1xRAM. I actally have a 8GB Swap file for 16GB RAM. My choice... ;)
[16:46] <ikevin> nishttal, "dpkg -l ntp" show you it's installed?
[16:46] <tgm4883> SchrodingersScat: it was RAM + 1MB IIRC
[16:46] <nishttal> ikevin, installed ntp.. and now I see this https://paste.fedoraproject.org/531000/48484439/
[16:47] <ikevin> nishttal, now wait a little, ntp will update the time
[16:48] <ikevin> if not, install ntpdate, temporary stop ntp and do "ntpdate 0.pool.ntp.org"
[16:49] <ikevin> then start ntp
[16:51] <Craigwell> sigh.... in broadcom hell after 14.04 LTS upgrade? I guess it has to do woth xenial kernel ?
[16:51] <nishttal> ikevin, 19 Jan 06:51:13 ntpdate[6119]: no server suitable for synchronization found
[16:51] <Craigwell> I've been trying various items I find in bug reports,
[16:51] <nishttal> ikevin, i tried sudo ntpdate 0.pool.ntp.org
[16:51] <Craigwell> now just installed b43-fwcutter
[16:51] <Craigwell> anyone have any suggestions how to resolve this once and for all ?
[16:51] <DolphinDream> minimec: thx. yeah.. it seems that every one i ask they give me a different answer :)
[16:52] <tgm4883> Craigwell: once and for all? Replace the broadcom card
[16:52] <ikevin> nishttal, try: 0.fr.pool.ntp.org
[16:52] <Craigwell> hahah......... company laptop. not in the cards
[16:52] <tatertots> Craigwell: broadcom is actually fairly straight forward and easy to manage
[16:53] <Craigwell> it's currently trying to use the STA driver, and I'm trying to sort out what I should be doing
[16:53] <nishttal> ikevin, those may be blocked for me.. do you know what port it tries?
[16:53] <Craigwell> tatertots, agreed... i've run into this over the years with various dell, hps etc, and have always figured it out. this one is being tricky
[16:53] <tatertots> Craigwell: do you need help or can you handle it on your own?
[16:53] <ikevin> nishttal, by default it's UDP port 123
[16:54] <Craigwell> help please.. I've tried the steps outlined here, no dice https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1594974
[16:55] <kang00> What's repair disc in windows?
[16:56] <glockenspiel> have system that suspended from idle.  System responded to keyboard press, but can't get display activated.  have ssh'd in but I can't get X to wake up. Any ideas?
[16:57] <nishttal> ikevin, yeah i cant telnet to that host/port
[16:57] <nishttal> ikevin, that explains
[16:57] <ikevin> glockenspiel, from ssh, try: xset dpms on
[16:57] <ikevin> nishttal, telnet is for tcp, ntp use udp
[16:58] <glockenspiel> cant open display 0
[16:58] <nishttal> ikevin, aah i didnt know that
[16:59] <ikevin> nishttal, to test udp: sudo nmap -p 123 -sU 0.pool.ntp.org
[16:59] <aviral> join #django
[16:59] <glockenspiel> ikevin: cant xset or xhost + on the display. :(
[17:00] <ikevin> glockenspiel, maybe you need to export DISPLAY before
[17:00] <nishttal> ikevin, https://paste.fedoraproject.org/531008/84524514/
[17:01] <glockenspiel> ikevin: used the command line option "-display"   This looks likean xauth barrier
[17:01] <glockenspiel> ech $DISPLAY
[17:01] <ikevin> nishttal, look like you'r firewall is allowing to connect to port 123
[17:02] <nishttal> ikevin, so why wouldnt it sync
[17:03] <ikevin> nishttal, if you can, to be sure it's not a firewall problem, try to temp disable it
[17:03] <nishttal> ikevin, my work sys admins may also block it.. there is not firewall on my machine
[17:04] <ikevin> nishttal, you need to ask it, if ntp can't work, you can manualy define the time
[17:04] <ikevin> ask him*
[17:05] <ikevin> or ask him if a local ntp server is availlable
[17:05] <dshap> Hey all, I'm running an Ubuntu EC2 instance and yesterday I could SSH into it just fine but today I can't and it says: "ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer". According to AWS monitoring, the CPU utilization is at 1%, so it's not a heavy-load situation keeping me out. Any ideas what this could be? Would definitely appreciate any help/suggestions since it's affecting my website!
[17:06] <ikevin> dshap, if EC2 provide a kvm access, try to restart ssh service
[17:06] <nishttal> ikevin, yeah just opened a ticket.. i'll let you know.. thanks for all your help
[17:07] <ikevin> nishttal, ok, your welcome :)
[17:08] <dshap> ikevin: They don't provide kvm access unfortunately. This issue actually happened just a couple days ago and the only solution I could come up with was to destroy the instance and create a brand new one, which worked for ~48 hours and now is doing this again, so I'm trying to get to the bottom of what could be going on.
[17:08] <Craigwell> Yes. I need help with the broadcom
[17:08] <Craigwell> I have tried b43 fw cutter, and have confirmed my device is supported, but I'm not getting anywhere
[17:09] <Craigwell> has something to do with the lts enablement stack, and it happened right after some updates were installed (assuming to do with moving to xenial kernel)
[17:09] <Craigwell> Is rolling back the kernel the appropriate solution ?
[17:10] <nishttal> ikevin, ok got the internal server ip.. ntpdate also worked.. do I now have to start the ntp service?
[17:10] <MichaelWright> If my PC was maxing 100% CPU on both cores on Ubuntu.. What would be the chances of the same on xubuntu?
[17:11] <minimec> Craigwell: The old kernel should still be available under 'Advanced options for Ubuntu' on the GRUB start screen.
[17:11] <MichaelWright> the CPU came out in 2011
[17:12] <Craigwell> MichaelWright, I wouldn't expect ubuntu itself to be the cause of maxing 6 year old cores. I run 14.04 just fine on 10 year old core duos
[17:12] <harelu> hi guys, i've got a freshly installed 16.10 and my graphics card is so loud its killing me. I'm using amd 5670 and open source drivers since they are my only choice. is there any way to set the fan speed to calm down when theres no load?
[17:12] <MichaelWright> Craigwell i was on live USB..
[17:12] <MichaelWright> This is a cheap Gateway laptop to..
[17:12] <Craigwell> even still....
[17:13] <Craigwell> something isn
[17:13] <Craigwell> isn't jiving
[17:13] <MichaelWright> CraigWell would there be a chance xubuntu would be the same or better?
[17:13] <Craigwell> or lubuntu
[17:13] <Craigwell> can't hurt to try, liveusb and all
[17:14] <jaythelinuxguy> MichaelWright, I may have missed it, but what process in particular is maxing out your CPU?
[17:15] <MichaelWright> I didn't check
[17:15] <MichaelWright> But the CPU was mostly sticking only at 100%.. maybe it'll fix it if i install Ubuntu?
[17:15] <jaythelinuxguy> I think you should. Perhaps open up the system monitor or install and run htop
[17:15] <jaythelinuxguy> There was a bug with gvfs, which is why I'm asking
[17:42] <mipo> How To Add Extra Lib (Dev) Directories In Gnome-Builder Config?
[17:42] <davido_> I've begun getting the following warnings when I apt update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23828922/
[17:43] <davido_> Looking for a suggestion to get those cleaned up.
[17:45] <arooni> i have a thinkpad with thinkfan; but i'm not sure its working; dmesg reports: [87284.317442] CPU3: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 69021) .. does this mean my fan is bad or my thinkfan config is bad?
[17:46] <minimec> davido_: So for 'http://download.alephobjects.com/ao/aodeb/' the solution is written on the repo page itself... http://download.alephobjects.com/ao/aodeb/
[17:46] <minimec> davido_: --> Then add our pubkey by running this in a terminal:
[17:47] <minimec> davido_: wget -qO - http://download.alephobjects.com/ao/aodeb/aokey.pub | sudo apt-key add -
[17:47] <davido_> thanks minimec.
[17:47] <kang00> (kang00) (kang00) How to find whether my computer has recovery partition created my manufacturer or not?
[17:47] <tatertots> kang00: hello again
[17:48] <tatertots> kang00: just look at all your partitions
[17:48] <tatertots> kang00: are you using the computer in question right now?
[17:48] <kang00> Recovery partition is hidden?
[17:48] <kang00> tatertots not now
[17:48] <tatertots> kang00: are you using the computer in question right now?
[17:49] <tatertots> kang00: oh ok cool
[17:50] <davido_> minimec : That cleared up the most annoying one. I appreciate the pointer to what I should have seen as obvious. :)  And the weak algorithm warning is really up to the repo owner to fix, I guess, so I am now about as clean as I shoudl be.
[17:50] <minimec> davido_: Exactly.
[17:50] <tomreyn> arooni: not neccessarily, some BIOS / CPU combinations just throttle the CPU automatically based on the temperature measured.
[17:51] <tomreyn> arooni: can you not hear whether the fan is running? you should also be able to check its rotation speed using lm-sensors / sensors-detect / sensord
[17:52] <jaythelinuxguy> None of the Thinkpads I've used for quite a while required Thinkfan. I agree with the person that mentioned running lm-sensors to double-check
[17:53] <tatertots> my think pad runs fine w/o thinkfan
[17:54] <jaythelinuxguy> What Thinkpad do you have?
[17:54] <tomreyn> davido_: download.alephobjects.com is not an ubuntu (compatible?) repository. it's for debian.
[17:55] <arooni> tomreyn: its running around 4500rpm;  also; i just noticed that the thinkfan daemon wasn't running.  do i need to do something to ensure thinkfan is running at system startup?  i dont want to have to remember to run /etc/init.d/thinkfan start manually
[17:55] <davido_> hm, i don't recall what sequence of events precipitated adding that repo.
[17:55] <jaythelinuxguy> arooni, which model of Thinkpad?
[17:56] <tomreyn> davido_: the download.01.og related warning you can probably ignore a while longer. it's not something you can fix.
[17:56] <tomreyn> arooni: i never used "thinkfan" and don't have any experience with it, sorry.
[17:57] <arooni> jaythelinuxguy: t420
[17:58] <jaythelinuxguy> The t420 I don't have much experience with. I had the T430, which had the fans running all the time. The problem ended up being hardware, I had a technician redo the thermal compound and that fixed the issue. Thinkfan wasn't necessary on that machine, I doubt it's necessary on yours.
[17:59] <jaythelinuxguy> Also, make sure the bios is up to date
[17:59] <arooni> yeah i think the original thermal compound is on this
[18:00] <arooni> sure that can't be helping
[18:00] <arooni> since its nearly 6 years old
[18:00] <jaythelinuxguy> Having the original compound may or may not be an issue. But if the heatsink is not tight and just right, it may exhibit those symptoms.
[18:04] <fub> Hi. I just inserted a wifi card (tplink n800) into my computer (ubuntu 16.04). The card is detected.
[18:04] <minimec> arooni: Try to open the laptop and clean it. Remove all the dust. These Thinkpads are very easy to open and to clean. I have experience with x220/x230. That might help.
[18:04] <fub> Now when I do ifconfig, I can see the wifi interface wlp6s0
[18:04] <fub> When I do "iwlist scanning", I get a list of networks
[18:04] <minimec> arooni: Also maybe try to install 'tlp' for better power managment.
[18:04] <fub> when I do an "iwlist wlp6s0 scanning", I get "No scan results". Why?
[18:08] <minimec> arooni: --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3aivW-7qJk
[18:24] <fub> I use lubuntu with i3wm. My terminal is gnome-terminal with zsh. I cant hear a bell sound when echo'ing a \a. Any idea how I can fix this?
[18:30] <GrandPa-G> I need help with partitions. I have a micro sd card 16gb on which there is a 60 mb boot partition and a 6.8gb partition and the rest unused. I want to copy those two partitions on to a 8gb card. Other than clonezilla, is there an easy way to do it? It is a bootable Raspberry Pi system
[18:30] <GrandPa-G> disk on the micro sd card.
[18:31] <minimec> GrandPa-G: dd is your friend... https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disk_cloning
[18:35] <GrandPa-G> minimec:Can I make a image file on my hard drive which contains just the two paritions? The result also has to be bootable?
[18:37] <ferr1> Hey, I've done this changes https://github.com/Project-OSRM/osrm-backend/wiki/Building-on-Ubuntu#ubuntu-1404 and now I cannot make other apps, I get syntax errors, how would I revert these changes?
[18:37] <minimec> GrandPa-G: I would do a backup of the whole SD card on your computer in one .img file, and then restore the whole image onto the new card. That should do.
[18:38] <GrandPa-G> minimec:no that doesn't. I need to go from the 16gb to 8gb cards.
[18:39] <OerHeks> GrandPa-G, you can restore the .img to a smaller card
[18:40] <GrandPa-G> OerHeks: what happens to the last 8gb of the image from the file?
[18:41] <OerHeks> if that space is empty, it will be ignored
[18:41] <roko> where can I place a file such that it is globally available? I want to be able to write "vim myfile" without specifying the path of the file.
[18:41] <GrandPa-G> OerHeks: so it knows/recognizes partitions in the img file?
[18:42] <OerHeks> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=83952 gives https://github.com/asb/spindle/blob/master/shrink_image as a solution, if you are in doubt
[18:42] <akik> roko: create an alias in your shell. there's no "globally available"
[18:42] <OerHeks> GrandPa-G, gparted can do this also, as an option
[18:44] <roko> akik: is putting the file in /etc/mysoftware/myfile a good idea?
[18:46] <urmom> 1
[18:49] <smeert> how do i dowload ubuntu with wget
[18:49] <smeert> i cant copy a link
[18:50] <OerHeks> type it over?
[18:50] <akik> roko: if you put the file in your home dir, you don't have to worry about its permissions
[18:50] <smeert> OerHeks: type what?
[18:50] <OerHeks> ..
[18:50] <minimec> smeert: <ctrl><shift>v to paste in the terminal
[18:50] <smeert> but i cant copy it
[18:51] <smeert> where is the direct link? https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[18:51] <OerHeks> smeert,  then type it
[18:51] <k1l_> smeert: click on alternative downloads
[18:51] <roko> akik: Do you know how can I put a file in home directory using autotools(Makefile.am)?
[18:52] <akik> roko: no
[18:52] <minimec> smeert: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04.1/ubuntu-16.04.1-server-amd64.iso 'download now' right click -> 'copy link location' in firefox
[18:53] <roko> akik: np Thanks!
[18:54] <smeert> minimec: can you find the similar image from here? http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/Linux/INSTALL/Ubuntu/dvd-releases/releases/
[18:54] <oh4> I am guessing livepatch is not available for home use? :)
[18:55] <OerHeks> oh4, yes it is, 16.04 lts only
[18:55] <k1l_> oh4: it is. there are 3 free subscritions available
[18:55] <k1l_> smeert: http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/Linux/INSTALL/Ubuntu/releases/xenial/
[18:55] <helloall> Hello, Having some trouble with my encrypted drive not prompting for password on boot (and therefore not booting linux). Anyone have experience with this?
[18:55] <oh4> hmm, I tried to 'sudo snap install canonical-livepatch' and it errors out with 'cannot communicate with server: get http://localhost/v2/changes/1'
[18:56] <minimec> smeert: I mean.. Why can't you? It's just some clicks away... http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/Linux/INSTALL/Ubuntu/dvd-releases/releases/xenial/release/ubuntu-16.04.1-server-arm64.iso
[18:56] <smeert> k1l_: that was confusing
[18:56] <oh4> is there some pre-req I need to run prior to applying livepatch?
[18:56] <OerHeks> First, go to the Canonical Livepatch Service portal and retrieve your livepatch token. https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/10/20/live-kernel-patching-from-canonical-now-available-for-ubuntu/
[18:57] <oh4> I have my token
[18:57] <k1l_> oh4: you want to run an own livepatch service? or do you want to use the canonical service?
[18:57] <smeert>  i was here https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads - scrolled to "other images" and it was not right
[18:57] <smeert> minimec: thats arm64
[18:58] <k1l_> smeert: no, click on alternative downloads, then on that new page scroll down, choose a mirror/country...
[18:58] <smeert> k1l_: chose finland
[18:58] <OerHeks> oh4, are you on AMD64 ?
[18:58] <smeert> yes
[18:59] <oh4> OerHeks: yep
[18:59] <k1l_> smeert: what is the issue now?
[18:59] <minimec> smeert: Oh... I agree... sorry.
[18:59] <smeert> minimec: got my issue
[18:59] <royal_screwup21> I wanted to download a webpage using "curl" and so I tried out the following command: wget -0 stuff.zip <link>. The problem is, when I try opening stuff.zip, I get an error message saying "error occurred while loading the archive". How do I rectify this?
[18:59] <oh4> k1l_: I just want to use the service
[18:59] <k1l_> smeert: ah right. that mirror seems to link to the wrong subfolder
[19:00] <OerHeks> oh4, are you using a derivate other than official ubuntu?
[19:00] <k1l_> oh4: what ubuntu is this?
[19:00] <k1l_> smeert: i went to parent directory on that mirror and then not to that dvd-releases but to just releases. then xenial
[19:01] <oh4> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ghyCv4Ab/
[19:01] <oh4> oops...meant to just past here...sorry
[19:01] <smeert> k1l_: yeah i know that now. didnt know it earlier
[19:01] <oh4> but yes, official ubuntu 16.04
[19:01] <Amm0n> helloall, is this a fresh install or did it work before?
[19:03] <helloall> Amm0n: It's a fresh install. The way I have it set up is.. / and swap as LVS in VG "linux-vg" on PV /dev/mapper/cryptfoo which is a luks crypt on /dev/sda6. /boot is unencrypted.
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> oh4  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[19:03] <oh4> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l
[19:03] <k1l_> oh4: do you use some proxy/vpn?
[19:03] <oh4> nope
[19:04] <oh4> this is the only machine on my network besides my laptop
[19:04] <Amm0n> helloall, did you config your bootloader and loaded the modules in initrd?
[19:04] <oh4> no proxy settings on my network/firewall, k1l_
[19:05] <oh4> the exact error is: error: cannot communicate with server: Post http://localhost/v2/snaps/canonical-livepatch: dial unix /run/snapd.socket: connect: connection refused
[19:05] <helloall> Amm0n: As far as I can tell grub won't need to decrypt, as init will take care of that? It manages to boot to initramfs then repeatedly tries accessing my LV for root, but can't because the drive is still encrypted. After so many attempts it falls back to busybox
[19:06] <helloall> Amm0n: I've added an entry in /etc/crypttab and done update-initramfs -u, but problem persists
[19:07] <Amm0n> helloall, did you follow the manual in /usr/share/doc/cryptsetup/CryptoRoot.HowTo ?
[19:07] <helloall> Amm0n: I'll check that file. I didn't use it though.
[19:08] <k1l_> oh4: can you show a "apt-cache policy snapd" please in a pastebin?
[19:10] <helloall> Amm0n: I've done this before and it worked well. The only thing I did this time was make swap and root lvs instead of separate partitions so I only have to unlock once.
[19:10] <oh4> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/qbJf4pT6/
[19:10] <oh4> k1l_: ^
[19:10] <k1l_> oh4: you might want to update that to work fully
[19:11] <k1l_> oh4: sudo apt install snapd
[19:11] <oh4> ok
[19:11] <k1l_> oh4: (and maybe want to update other packages that are missing update, too)
[19:11] <oh4> indeed
[19:11] <genii> Hm, /var/lib/dpkg/status
[19:12] <k1l_> oh4: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade  #to make sure you have all the updates installed.
[19:12] <oh4> yep
[19:12] <oh4> on it
[19:12] <oh4> I'll let you know how it turns out
[19:15] <Amm0n> helloall, as far as i know you need to configure grub with root= and cryptdevice=
[19:17] <helloall> Amm0n: In a case where /boot is also encrypted, that would be true
[19:17] <Amm0n> no
[19:19] <helloall> Amm0n: I have an encrypted system with LVM encrypt selected in the graphical installer which doesn't have crypt options in grub
[19:19] <noname> Hi
[19:20] <noname> Yes
[19:20] <fub> I'm trying to read an ebook on ubuntu in evince, but the rendered font looks strange: http://i.imgur.com/oT2HYgB.png
[19:20] <fub> How can I improve this?
[19:20] <arooni> anyway to repair a sd card via ubuntu?  [93105.795095] mmcblk0: error -84 transferring data, sector 0, nr 8, cmd response 0x900, card status 0x0 ..
[19:20] <Mikerhinos> I need to create a live USB of Manjaro image, heard that Unetbootin is to avoid, any advice on what to use to do a clean Live USB ?
[19:20] <noname> Who want get top secret material&
[19:20] <noname> Who want get top secret material?
[19:21] <k1l_> noname: this channel is for technical ubuntu support only.
[19:21] <Mrwappie> xD
[19:21] <noname> I have 4 minutes
[19:21] <fub> I also tried a different viewer, but the rendering is the same for the PDF
[19:21] <noname> Who?
[19:22] <oh4> k1l_: ran the install of snapd and the upgrade...still no luck with install canonical-livepatch
[19:22] <oh4> still get a socket error
[19:22] <Mrwappie> @noname - you want to send it by Email?
[19:23] <k1l_> oh4: can you reboot that machine? i think there are a lot of updates that need a reboot to take effect
[19:23] <Amm0n> helloall, the documentation on this topic for ubuntu is pretty outdated: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystem use this for the initramfs part. Rest from here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Encrypting_an_entire_system#LVM_on_LUKS
[19:23] <oh4> k1l_: I did
[19:23] <oh4> 14:23:28 up 5 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.16, 0.44, 0.26
[19:24] <k1l_> oh4: apt-cache policy snapd    #no tells version 2.20.1ubuntu1?
[19:24] <thomedy> i know i can build a server at home
[19:24] <minimec> Mrwappie: 'Writing to a USB Stick in Linux'  https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Burn_an_ISO_File
[19:24] <Amm0n> helloall, i run different systems with and without /boot encryption. All need a configured bootloader.
[19:25] <thomedy> i want to rebuild my laptop to run a server and a laptop under 2 seperate systems
[19:25] <thomedy> same machine
[19:25] <thomedy> can i partition real time
[19:25] <thomedy> and do that
[19:25] <oh4> k1l_:  yep --> Installed: 2.20.1ubuntu1
[19:25] <thomedy> its a quick fix for a web host that i dont feel is doing their job right now
[19:27] <Mrwappie> @minimec - Just a joke - aka it was a scammer
[19:27] <noname> j
[19:27] <noname> a64
[19:28] <minimec> Mrwappie: Sorry wrong <tab> completion...
[19:28] <Mrwappie> @minimec - Np
[19:28] <k1l_> oh4: what is the exact error now?
[19:29] <minimec> Mikerhinos: Writing to a USB Stick in Linux... https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Burn_an_ISO_File
[19:29] <k1l_> actually you can use even cp or something else and "burn" onto a usb
[19:29] <oh4> k1l_: so I am running the following: 'sudo snap install canonical-livepatch' but get this error: 'error: cannot communicate with server: Post http://localhost/v2/snaps/canonical-livepatch: dial unix /run/snapd.socket: connect: connection refused'
[19:30] <oh4> i even tried systemctl for snapd
[19:31] <Mikerhinos> minimec, k1l_ , thx :)
[19:33] <k1l_> oh4: hmm
[19:33] <oh4> snapd is failing to start
[19:34] <oh4> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/egE6cKab/
[19:35] <claytonratz> came in here about a week ago pleading to have my pass reset as i can't live without cg
[19:35] <k1l_> oh4: what happens when you do "sudo systemctl start snapd"?
[19:35] <claytonratz> and now fear that i must exist without it
[19:39] <oh4> it takes it with no errors but if I check the status, it says it failed :/
[19:42] <k1l_> oh4: maybe the specialists in #snappy know better
[19:44] <oh4> prehaps...I'll keep digging around...I'll let you know either way...I appreciate your time and help, though!
[19:47] <noname> joked
[19:48] <noname> I am joked
[20:01] <thomedy> okay besides this
[20:01] <thomedy> https://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1604-lts-server-part-1-basics
[20:01] <thomedy> what else do i need
[20:01] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[20:01] <ubuntu-mate> guys
[20:01] <ubuntu-mate> how can i make a bootable pratition on hdd?
[20:02] <nicomachus> thomedy: to do what?
[20:02] <ubuntu-mate> well
[20:02] <ubuntu-mate> on hard dirve
[20:02] <ubuntu-mate> drive*
[20:03] <ubuntu-mate> to have a logical/primary partition
[20:03] <ubuntu-mate> marked as bootable
[20:03] <ubuntu-mate> and i want to put windows iso to that partiton
[20:03] <thomedy> my web host seems to be slacking im going to just build my own server
[20:04] <thomedy> i want to make sure i am secure
[20:04] <OerHeks> ubuntu-mate, that can only be don if you have grub installed
[20:04] <thomedy> im going to partition my laptop untill i buy a tower and run it myself
[20:04] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[20:05] <ubuntu-mate> thanks i'm gonna read that :)
[20:06] <nicomachus> thomedy: there's a lot of hardening resources out there, both from Ubuntu forums/wiki and outside sources. This is a decent overview: https://linux-audit.com/ubuntu-server-hardening-guide-quick-and-secure/
[20:06] <thomedy> thnk you
[20:06] <HypeThang66> what's the channel for next releases of ubuntu?
[20:06] <OerHeks> #ubuntu+1
[20:07] <HypeThang66> thanks OerHeks
[20:18] <hautamaeki_> Hello! How can I overtake webcam on another computer using bash?
[20:22] <BluesKaj> hautamaeki_, ask in #bash
[20:22] <fireant> hautamaeki_: that's easy, you will need ssh access to this other computer,  then you can use ie ffmpeg to stream video over network
[20:23] <hautamaeki_> Ok, how can I gain ssh access?
[20:39] <thirty00six> #pizzagate is real
[20:39] <OerHeks> !ot | thirty00six
[20:59] <thomedy> someone pointed me to a page but my computer wsn' tplugged in nd powerd off
[20:59] <thomedy> im hoping to turn my laptop into a temp webhost until i buy a couple towers
[20:59] <thomedy> im tired of my host and just going to start running it myself
[20:59] <thomedy> please hit me with the proper tuts
[21:06] <Ricardo`> hi can someone help me with an annoying problem? been searching and trying stuff for ages but can't get it fixed
[21:06] <Ricardo`> basically my nfs share stopped mounting at boot since updating to ubuntu server 16.04.1
[21:07] <Ricardo`> It hangs for 1,5 minute on A start job is running for /mnt/share and when i enter mount -a it mounts fine
[21:07] <Ricardo`> seems like it's trying to mount when the network isn't initialized
[21:08] <Ricardo`> this is what i have in my fstab 192.168.0.1:/volume1/nextcloud  /mnt/nextcloud nfs rw,soft,intr,noatime,timeo=100,nfsvers=3 0 0 it points to an nfs share on my synology nas and worked fine before
[21:08] <ducasse> Ricardo`: add _netdev to the mount options in fstab
[21:09] <Ricardo`> ducasse: i've tried that and it doesn't help
[21:10] <Ricardo`> 192.168.0.1:/volume1/nextcloud  /mnt/nextcloud nfs rw,_netdev,soft,intr,noatime,timeo=100,nfsvers=3 0 0
[21:10] <Ricardo`> or without the timeout?
[21:11] <vlt> Hello. I want to create something like an .odp presentation with animation but finally export it as a video file. Any idea what I could use on Ubuntu?
[21:11] <ducasse> Ricardo`: odd. both the fact that it's nfs and that option should cause it to be mounted after the network is up.
[21:12] <Ricardo`> i'm confused (and at this point also annoyed) at that as well, even defaults,_netdev doesn't help
[21:17] <Ricardo`> anything else I can do?
[21:18] <Tabascomang> I get ERROR  NOK: ('unable to open database file',)
[21:18] <Tabascomang>  with fail2ban. SE linux is in enforced.
[21:19] <ducasse> Ricardo`: i haven't really got any suggestions, other than possibly creating a mount unit for it and set it to run late in the startup process
[21:19] <Ricardo`> ok so ill have to try and find a way to do that while making sure apache2 starts after the mount
[21:21] <Amm0n> Ricardo`, try to "sudo systemctl enable NetworkManager-wait-online.service"
[21:21] <aruns> Hi.
[21:21] <aruns> I am running Ubuntu 16.04.
[21:21] <aruns> Does anyone know if there's a .deb package for version 2.4.0-2 of the fish-common package?
[21:21] <aruns> This is one of the dependencies needed for the Fish shell.
[21:21] <Menzador> !info fish-common 16.04
[21:22] <Menzador> !info fish-common vivid
[21:22] <k1l_> its xenial
[21:22] <aruns> I am on XeniI am on 16.04.
[21:22] <aruns> Xenial.
[21:22] <Menzador> Yeah, I just remembered that :P
[21:22] <aruns> :P
[21:22] <Menzador> Slap me silly
[21:22] <aruns> !info fish-common xenial
[21:22] <Menzador> !info fish-common xenial
[21:22] <Menzador> !info fish-common yakkety
[21:23] <Menzador> Looks like 2.4 is going into 17.04
[21:23] <aruns> Sweet.
[21:24] <aruns> I have Fish 2.4 on my office Mac.
[21:24] <aruns> Was hoping I could run it on Xenial.
[21:24] <aruns> Where can I find out about ubottu's commands by  the way?
[21:24] <Menzador> aruns: Not much we can tell you, unless you find a PPA
[21:24] <aruns> Would be useful to know if I need to look up something quickly.
[21:24] <k1l_> aruns: ubuntu doesnt upgrade the versions once its released. so you might want to look at 3rd party repos like PPAs
[21:25] <Menzador> aruns: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi , but good luck trying to comprehend it
[21:25] <k1l_> aruns: the bot is just using packages.ubuntu.com for the package lookup
[21:25] <Ricardo`> Amm0n
[21:25] <aruns> Thanks, guys.
[21:25] <aruns> Yeah I think I will install from PPA.
[21:25] <Ricardo`> Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory
[21:26] <aruns> I'd actually like to know.
[21:26] <Amm0n> Ricardo`, 16.04?
[21:26] <Ricardo`> yes
[21:26] <aruns> As I've looked this up and never found out how best to do it.
[21:27] <Amm0n> Ricardo`, checked for typos? i got this service on 16.04
[21:27] <Ricardo`> root@SRV05:~# sudo systemctl enable NetworkManager-wait-online.service
[21:27] <Ricardo`> Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory
[21:28] <Ricardo`> yeah i think it's missing
[21:29] <k1l_> Menzador: aruns so far its 2.4.0-1 in 17.04
[21:30] <k1l_> aruns: look here for PPA installs: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=fish  but keep in mind that this is not covered by ubuntu
[21:31] <k1l_> aruns: this looks like the ppa you want: https://launchpad.net/~fish-shell/+archive/ubuntu/release-2
[21:31] <wonton> is there an ubuntu rolling release distro
[21:31] <aruns> k1l_: Yeah I just added it
[21:31] <k1l_> wonton: no
[21:32] <aruns> k1l_: Sorry, I'm using IRSSI and mistook a Twitch chat for the Ubuntu chat lawl
[21:32] <aruns> But I had a question on PPAs, need to read up on it.
[21:32] <aruns> But when I add a PPA, GPG creates some sort of authentication key for me to use with the PPA?
[21:33] <Ricardo`> systemctl list-unit-files doesn't list it either
[21:33] <aruns> And AFAIk, GPG is an encryption tool, does it work similarly to SSH?
[21:33] <aruns> As I am wondering if I need to remove the public keys after adding the PPAs or not
[21:33] <Amm0n> Ricardo`, it comes with networkmanager
[21:34] <OerHeks> aruns, add-apt-repository does import the key too, do not remove the key, else you won't get updates ( and see errors)
[21:34] <Ricardo`> networkmanager is there
[21:34] <k1l_> aruns: the traffic to that ppa (hosted by canonical) and the package as such is signed, yes. but keep in mind, that every guy out there can make a PPA and put whatever he wants in that packages.
[21:35] <k1l_> aruns: that is why the ubuntu support doesnt cover PPAs. ubuntu makes sure you get whats in that PPA. but what is in that PPA is the task of that ppa maintainer.
[21:35] <Ricardo`> found something https://i.imgur.com/K4IQMpj.png
[21:35] <aruns> k1l_: Ah OK, so GPG just encrypts the traffic between your machine and the PPA?
[21:36] <aruns> Or it's used to authenticate your machine.
[21:36] <aruns> Or something completely different?
[21:36] <aruns> The only encryption method I really work with on a routine basis at work is RSA for generating SSH keys.
[21:37] <k1l_> aruns: no. it checks if the ppa package that was transfered to your system matches the hash that the PPA got
[21:38] <k1l_> aruns: its again man-in-the-middle-attack. but to be honest, its easier to put a bad pacakge as package maintainer on it :)
[21:38] <k1l_> *against
[21:38] <aruns> k1l_: Ah I see, so GPG encrypts the files in the PPA package on the server side, and decrypts it on the client side?
[21:39] <aruns> Or still getting it wrong?
[21:39] <k1l_> aruns: no. its just to checks that you got 100% the package you should get
[21:39] <aruns> I see.
[21:39] <aruns> But it decrypts the package you receive
[21:39] <nic__> the files are signed (not encrypted) meaning they are visible, but can not be tampered without being detectable
[21:39] <aruns> And checks for the hash?
[21:39] <aruns> Ah so they are not encrypted.
[21:39] <k1l_> it doesnt decrypt. it checks the hashes.
[21:39] <aruns> What is encrypted then?
[21:40] <k1l_> the packages get signed
[21:40] <nic__> that's the point of digital signatures, encryption is not needed to have security
[21:41] <nic__> To put it differently, it would be of no help to encrypt something if everyone on the planet could decrypt it
[21:41] <nic__> publicly
[21:43] <k1l_> aruns: btw, apt is doing this with all repos. not only PPAs. it just shows you that it added the new keys, since the keys for the official ubuntu repos are already included since install.
[21:44] <ss23> Hi. I have in my /etc/network/interfaces file a line: "auto interfacename interfacename2", and while the rest of my interfaces file is acted on correctly, interfacename and interfacename2 are not brought up on boot. Instead, I have to login to the console of the box and run `ifconfig interfacename up` each time. Does anyone have ideas on how to debug?
[21:44] <Ricardo`> ok wtf... changing from nfs3 to nfs4 fixed it
[21:44] <Ricardo`> and i have no idea why
[21:44] <Ricardo`> <_<
[21:45] <Ricardo`> even without the _netdev
[21:48] <Ricardo`> ok thanks for the feedback im out
[21:49] <helpquest12> Hi there.  I was wondering if anyone wouldn't mind helping me out with my Xubuntu installation.
[21:51] <k1l_> helpquest12: if you give the details people in here can try to help
[21:52] <helpquest12> I'm trying to install Xubuntu 14.04 on my mid 2007 MacBook.  I have rEFInd installed and I'm currently in a Live USB environment.
[21:54] <helpquest12> I installed Xubuntu, and it went alright, but then the installer tells me that it can't install the bootloader.  I've tried downloading the 32bit version of Grub, but that encounters another error when I attempt to install that.  Something about a bad package.
[21:57] <helpquest12> So I have 14.04 installed along with OSX, but because there's no bootloader, I can't run it.
[22:09] <DDoc> does anyone uses programming to android on ubuntu ?
[22:12] <sefa> sa
[22:13] <sefa> sa
[22:15] <OerHeks> DDoc, there is a wiki for android SDK, but for programming itself you should join #android-dev
[22:15] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AndroidSDK
[22:35] <goldfinger> Hello friends!
[22:37] <GobbledyGoop> I love ubuntu
[22:43] <Rockhopper> Hello room
[22:44] <adalbert> Is Xubuntu an official flavor of Ubuntu ?
[22:44] <kostkon> adalbert, yes
[22:45] <Rockhopper> Can someone tell me how to disable the mouseball on my notebook-keypad situated between g - h - b
[22:46] <Rockhopper> ?
[22:46] <Rockhopper> running ubuntu 16.04 lts
[22:47] <sphrak> is there anything that might cause a network card to randomly not show up on boot?
[22:48] <genii> sphrak: Could be turned off by keyboard combo, could be missing firmware, could be too new for the OS to know about
[22:49] <sphrak> genii: well its a wired intel pro quad 1000 card, sometimes it shows up and works but sometimes it does not..
[22:50] <k1l_> sphrak: would be interessting to see dmesg or syslog when it doesnt work.
[22:50] <tekeli-li> aruns, https://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/x135.html
[22:51] <tekeli-li> aruns, It relies on properties of asymmetric encryption.
[22:51] <tekeli-li> aruns, A token is encrypted and transmitted.
[22:52] <tekeli-li> aruns, Only the public key of the party in question can decrypt the token.
[22:52] <tekeli-li> aruns, That's the end of my "layman's explaination". You'll have to read up to learn more.
[22:52] <sphrak> k1l_: hmm ill try to reproduce it now then. but im just wondering im currently only using 2 of the 4 NICs. and the 2 uses static ip, do I have to "auto eth0" the other ones? in network/interfaces conf file?
[22:58] <Term1nal> Is there a way to mount UFS on 16.10? The ufsutils package appears not to exist.
[22:59] <cptylor> If I set a user as sudoer, what is the best way to keep track of what this user is doing and whether it is doing anything nasty? Suggestions of keywords to look up on google would be very much appreciated.
[22:59] <amicrawler2017> need help with hardware can any body help please
[22:59] <amicrawler2017> i have 2 video cards
[22:59] <amicrawler2017> nvidia and ati
[22:59] <amicrawler2017> nvidia is a p383
[22:59] <vacho> hey guys... I have 2 servers, both have ssh access.. I am trying to move a file from server A -> Server B ... I am hoping I can do this via a simple command and eventually configure a crontab for it
[22:59] <amicrawler2017> ati is b629
[22:59] <k1l_> Term1nal: its gone since 14.04 (or before)
[23:00] <amicrawler2017> what card runs better ?
[23:00] <Term1nal> k1l_: no way to get it onto 16.10 in some way?
[23:00] <amicrawler2017> right now my card is a amd rv710
[23:02] <genii> Term1nal: sudo modprobe ufs && sudo mount -t ufs /dev/wherever-ufs-dev-is /wherever-ufs-mountpoint-is
[23:02] <Rockhopper> Is there someway to make folderstack in launcher a la drawers with another application or by script? Drawers does not work for me in ubuntu 16.04 lts.
[23:02] <k1l_> Term1nal: isnt that included in the kernel?
[23:03] <adalbert> Should I use LibreOffice or Apache-Openoffice ?
[23:04] <bentinata> How to turn on disabled Dell wireless?
[23:04] <k1l_> adalbert: libreoffice is shipped with ubuntu
[23:04] <adalbert> ok
[23:05] <bentinata> I've ran github.com/ubuntuforums/wireless-info, then what next?
[23:10] <countingdaisies> This : sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup   command is given in a 5 yr old askubuntu thread: http://askubuntu.com/questions/41118/virtualbox-kernel-driver-not-installed    to solve this: http://imgur.com/a/ELV9Z   problem. I get a command line error when running: sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup   what am I doing wrong?
[23:11] <bekks> countingdaisies: WHICH "command line error"?
[23:11] <bekks> countingdaisies: and where do you install vbox from?
[23:15] <master1> -exit
[23:17] <ipwn> hi
[23:17] <ipwn> how do i make xscreensaver work w fortune??
[23:17] <countingdaisies> bekks: i don't recall where I installed from (occasionally I install from upstream and this is something I likely would have done that with - just forgot).  This should answer the question:  http://pastebin.com/9mudHPji
[23:20] <tomreyn> countingdaisies: does this list something virtualbox-like? sudo service --status-all | grep ox
[23:22] <countingdaisies> tomreyn: Running: sudo service --status-all | grep ox    simply nets another blank command line
[23:22] <tomreyn> countingdaisies: i think i remember seeing this message and that i need to run a 'service ... ' command to make it build and load the modules. alternatively, you could probably just reboot.
[23:22] <tomreyn> countingdaisies: okay, i guess that hint did not help then, sorry. ;)
[23:22] <tomreyn> still, a reboot might help
[23:23] <tomreyn> (yes, this is not ##windows)
[23:23] <OerHeks> i wonder why 'virtualbox-dkms' is not installed
[23:23] <countingdaisies> tomreyn: No, I get what you're saying. like running apache restart or something. Rebooting is cool too. I know how to do it at least  :p
[23:24] <countingdaisies> lemme see what happens with a restart - brb
[23:24] <tomreyn> a good chance to sneak away
[23:24]  * tomreyn zzz
[23:25] <ipwn> how do i make xscreensaver work w fortune?? if i select "fortune" under "Programs" nothing happens
[23:25] <ipwn> whats wrong?
[23:31] <aruns> Hi.
[23:31] <aruns> I am running Ubuntu 16.04.
[23:31] <aruns> When I run chsh -s followed by the path to the shell I'd like to make default
[23:31] <aruns> I get Cannot change ID to root.
[23:32] <aruns> Does anyone know what this means?
[23:32] <aruns> Root owns /usr/bin/chsh
[23:32] <aruns> As I thought it was an ownership problem.
[23:36] <aruns> The other day, I uninstalled Fish 2.3.0 so that I could install Fish 2.4.0
[23:36] <aruns> But I forgot to change my default shell to another besides Fish while uninstalling.
[23:36] <aruns> So I changed the default shell of my user by editing the /etc/passwd file with Vim.
[23:36] <aruns> Maybe that is what caused the issue.
[23:48] <vacho> hey guys... I have 2 servers, both have ssh access.. I am trying to move a file from server A -> Server B ... I am hoping I can do this via a simple command and eventually configure a crontab for it
[23:51] <adalbert> yacho, read http://www.linuxproblem.org/art_9.html
[23:52] <k1l_> vacho: scp is cp ofer ssh
[23:52] <k1l_> *over
[23:53] <aruns> Yeah, SCP is the way to go.
[23:54] <aruns> k1l_: Couldn't he also use rsync?
[23:54] <aruns> I think that allows you to specify a remote IP.
[23:54] <aruns> Although SCP probably easier.
[23:55] <k1l_> yes, rsync is another tool that works with remote connections.
[23:56] <ipwn> how do i make xscreensaver work w fortune?? if i select "fortune" under "Programs" nothing happens
[23:56] <aruns> k1l_: Hey, would you happen to know when I try to run chsh -s /bin/bash as an example on my user, I get Cannot change ID to root?
[23:57] <aruns> /usr/bin/chsh is owned by root
[23:57] <k1l_> aruns: what are you trying to do at all?
[23:57] <aruns> k1l_: Change default shell.
[23:57] <aruns> I can only change at the moment through using sudo and specifying my user.
[23:58] <ipwn> wtf nobody knows?