[00:00] <mparillo> Old stuff, agreed. But the way I read valorie's e-mail, she was suggesting we port existing docs rather than start fresh. But if you want to delete it, I will not take it personally.
[00:00] <mparillo> And if you want to do major editing fine with me. Dinner time.
[00:01] <clivejo> probably better to start from stratch using these as a base
[00:01] <mparillo> OK, but can we put the ppa section somewhere? I still find that useful.
[00:01] <clivejo> Im looking for ideas on how to lay it out
[00:02] <clivejo> Id like to see basic sections
[00:02] <clivejo> how-to do smaller tasks
[00:02] <mparillo> Yes, I did not read the wiki syntax, so sections would be nice. 
[00:03] <mparillo> Anyway, BBL
[00:03] <clivejo> that seems to be where newbies get stuck, like setting up keys and environments
[00:03] <valorie> ok, I have telepathy-morse but I don't see how to add telegram to kde-telepathy
[00:04] <valorie> ooo, found it
[00:05] <valorie> but no login code to my phone
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[00:19] <clivejo> in telepathy go "offline"
[00:19] <clivejo> then Go Online or put your status to "Available"
[00:31] <valorie> ok, I got the code
[00:31] <valorie> where do I put it in?
[00:31] <clivejo> should ask you when you try connecting to Telegram
[00:33] <valorie> I don't see how to connect to Telegram
[00:33] <valorie> join chat room only has KDE-talk
[00:33] <clivejo> in the IM setings
[00:33] <valorie> which is jabber
[00:34] <valorie> wooo, maybe
[00:35] <valorie> see me on telegram?
[00:35] <valorie> clivejo: ^^^
[00:36] <clivejo> sent you a message
[00:40] <valorie> can't see it in telepathy, boo
[00:41] <valorie> did you see my "testing, testing"?
[00:41] <valorie> seems to go nowhere
[00:42] <clivejo> are you sure you are actually online and available 
[00:44] <valorie> can you see me as online?
[00:44] <clivejo> no
[00:44] <valorie> I went off and back on, and was asked again for password
[00:46] <valorie> oh gosh, now it is replaying very old messages
[00:46] <valorie> so it must be online
[00:46] <clivejo> ok that sounds better
[00:46] <valorie> excellent
[00:46] <valorie> I'll just let that freak out for a bit
[00:47] <valorie> nearly dinner time anyway
[00:47] <valorie> weeeee, it works!
[00:47] <clivejo> it goes a bit crazy on first log in, sync'ing messages
[00:47] <valorie> the cool bit about k-telepathy is that it works with avahi even when wireless isn't working
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[00:48] <valorie> it was lovely at Randa when everything else didn't work
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[02:10] <clivejo> eakkk - https://i.imgsafe.org/13985212e2.png - has anyone had this with downloading Kubuntu iso?
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 I only use torrents
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[04:52] <valorie> clivejo: that neon problem has been reported to the sysadmins, and they are trying to figure out how to talk with google security people about it
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[06:20] <tsimonq2> *stretches*
[06:21]  * tsimonq2 sleeps but comes back tomorrow afternoon
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[08:56] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[09:39] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
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[11:34] <clivejo> valorie: I would suggest that we keep it simple and only have one URL (ie https://phabricator.kde.org/project/board/44/ ) and use that as a hub to find other resources, as we can customise the menus and content for there
[11:38] <clivejo> wb mamarley
[11:39] <mamarley> clivejo: Sorry, just a quick server reboot.
[11:40] <clivejo> no problem :)
[11:40] <clivejo> wb soee !!
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:23] <clivejo> acheronuk: poked a few of Apps 16.12.1 autopkgtests, hopefully will free a few more to fall into the archive!
 clivejo: hey :)
 clivejo: How's Max?
[12:42] <clivejo> He's fine, barking at something or other
[12:42] <clivejo> probably a bird teasing him from a tree
[12:50] <clivejo> anyone know what is building FontNotoSansConfig.cmake or FontHackConfig.cmake ?
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[13:13] <acheronuk> clivejo: cheers. I ran the ark ones locally this morning, and seem they would pass if proposed was enabled
 clivejo: Good :)
 clivejo: And yes go to packages.ubuntu.com
 Magical package search :O
 Or in IRC, do !find THIS.cmake I think.
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[13:45] <tsdgeos> will you guys be doing the securiry thing for ark or what?
[13:53] <clivejo> tsdgeos: LP 1655507 There are patches, but testing can't be verified
[13:54] <tsdgeos> ah one of those "distro knows better" cases
[13:54] <tsdgeos> yep makes total sense
[13:55] <clivejo> I don't think that's the case :(
[13:55] <clivejo> more I don't understand the issue enough to determind if the patch is actually doing what it is intended to do
[13:56] <tsdgeos> so your only option is to leave your users vulnerable
[13:57] <tsdgeos> yep makes total sense
[13:58] <clivejo> I am trying to make the most of the limited knowledge, skills and resources available to me
[14:01] <clivejo> it would help greatly if test case were provided so that patches could be tested properly 
[14:01] <tsdgeos> so you really don't think what you're saying is "i really need to verify this because even the guy that actually wrote the code actually has more knowledge, skills and resources than me he probably fucked up" ?
[14:02] <mamarley> Please, don't be ugly.
[14:02] <tsdgeos> i'm not being ugly
[14:02] <tsdgeos> he is saying this is not a "distro knows better"
[14:02] <tsdgeos> and it totally is
[14:02] <tsdgeos> if he says it is
[14:02] <tsdgeos> i'm fine with that
[14:02] <tsdgeos> but he needs to accept it
[14:03] <tsdgeos> what is happening is that the guy that wrote the code came to you and said "Man i fucked up, we really should be fixing this"
[14:03] <tsdgeos> and he is thinking "oh yeah i need to verify, but don't know how"
[14:04] <tsdgeos> and isntead of askinf for help on the how, he's just being sad about it and not asking for help
[14:04] <tsdgeos> enough, work
[14:05] <clivejo> tsdgeos: I have asked for help, on numerous occasions!
[14:10] <acheronuk> ooooh. Apparently successful
[14:10] <acheronuk> final: ark,jovie,juk,kaccessible,kcachegrind,kde-dev-utils,kde4libs,kdesdk-kioslaves,kget,kgoldrunner,kigo,kmag,kmix,kmousetool,kmouth,kolf,konquest,kopete,kppp,kremotecontrol,kreversi,ksaneplugin,kscd,ksirk,ksnakeduel,kspaceduel,ksudoku,kubrick,libxcomposite,link-grammar,lskat,nlme,ocl-icd,palapeli,sweeper,unity-scopes-api,zeroconf-ioslave
[14:11] <acheronuk> from update_output.txt
 valorie: Who did you tell about our phone conversation last night?
 tsdgeos: I'm in high school and have been away for a week studying for and taking finals, and it caught my eye as soon as I opened my inbox.
 tsdgeos_: ^
 I went and poked the security team last night. It's currently in the queue and the Ubuntu Security Team will look at it ASAP.
 But for now, it's almost fixed in Zesty.
 It's in proposed
 @tsimonq2, no, it's in release pocket
 @acheronuk, Oh cool, guess it must have migrated. I trust you updated the bug report?
 @tsimonq2, yep
[16:27] <tsdgeos_> acheronuk: are you really sure about that?
[16:27] <tsdgeos_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23834013/
[16:27] <tsdgeos_> maybe my repo is old 
[16:28] <tsdgeos_> tsimonq2: studying is good
[16:28] <acheronuk> tsdgeos_: yes, your mirror looks to be behind in syncing
 Maybe.
[16:28] <tsdgeos_> s/repo/mirror
 Yes, but it sucks when some people don't keep up with CVEs... :)
[16:29] <acheronuk> apt-cache policy ark
[16:29] <acheronuk> ark:
[16:29] <acheronuk>   Installed: 4:16.12.1-0ubuntu1
[16:29] <acheronuk>   Candidate: 4:16.12.1-0ubuntu1
[16:29] <acheronuk>   Version table:
[16:29] <acheronuk>  *** 4:16.12.1-0ubuntu1 500
[16:29] <acheronuk>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty/universe amd64 Packages
[16:29] <acheronuk>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 Apologies tsdgeos_. This kind of response time won't happen again.
[16:29] <tsdgeos_> acheronuk: ok
[16:33] <clivejo> tsdgeos_: who would I need to speak to about a failing autopkgtest on baloo-widgets5?
[16:34] <clivejo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23834042/
 Look at Neon and Debian. You're sure it's not us, clivejo?
 @tsimonq2, The test setups are identical, though not sure Neon even runs them.
 clivejo: I'll pay you 15 USD if you can fix it by the time this next exam is done, in 1.5 hours. XD
 so could be an issue with the KDE tests themselves, or the testsuite setup in packaging may need updating for 16.12
[16:40] <tsdgeos_> clivejo: ignore it, something in the chain is giving you more data than expected, no big issue imho
[16:40] <clivejo> @tsimonq2: thanks but no thanks 
[16:41] <acheronuk> tsdgeos_: thanks. that saves us a lot of hassle :)
 Awwwwwwwwwww you guys are no fun! :P XD
[16:42] <clivejo> acheronuk:  will you poke the release-team about it then?
[16:42] <acheronuk> just going to
 This next exam will be AWESOME... Last one of the day
[16:44] <clivejo> tsdgeos_: do you have a contact I could talk to about that issue though
 </sarcasm>
 o/
[16:45] <clivejo> the best thing for us is to have the tests pass and not get stuck in proposed every time
[16:45] <tsdgeos_> clivejo: not really
[16:45] <acheronuk> if it is going to be a persistent long term failing test, then if not address we may have to look at disabling it until it is fixed
[16:46] <acheronuk> *not addressed
[16:46] <acheronuk> there are a fair few that have had that done with them over time
[16:47] <clivejo> just defeats the point in having them
[16:48] <acheronuk> well, we can see what debian do with it when they finally do 16.12. if we can't sort it here.
[16:49] <clivejo> acheronuk: would you add a new task for autotests we need to follow up?
[16:50] <acheronuk> can do. 
[16:50]  * acheronuk add to his list
[16:50] <clivejo> Ill add it to phab
[16:51] <acheronuk> https://phabricator.kde.org/T5136
[16:52] <acheronuk> will flesh that out shortly
[16:53] <clivejo> oh now we have two!
[16:53] <acheronuk> lol
[16:53] <clivejo> I meant for you to add to trello and Id do phab
[16:54] <clivejo> I not sure what the plan is with trello 
[16:54] <clivejo> Ill delete mine on phab
[16:56] <acheronuk> need to get a few more people using phab, then discuss if is suitable to switch to for everything
[16:56] <clivejo> oupps
[16:56] <clivejo> no delete option, so I merged
[16:57] <clivejo> looks like it deleted yours and merge into mine
[16:58] <clivejo> grrr
[17:12] <_Wens_> hi
[17:17] <_Wens_> kde security advisory for ark public 12 january on kde.org. will ark patched for kubuntu 16.10?
[17:24] <clivejo> _Wens_: sorry?
[17:24] <clivejo> I dont understand the question
[17:26] <clivejo> It is currently with the Security team LP LP 1655507
[17:26] <_Wens_> sorry i have bad english :( 
[17:27] <_Wens_> yes. my question about this
[17:28] <acheronuk> _Wens_: the security team are looking at sponsoring a fixed upload to Yakkety as we speak
[19:24] <acheronuk> xnox: trying to work out why a acc test is failing, and http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man1/dh_acc.1.html
[19:24] <acheronuk> says it compares with debian/package.abi.tar.gz
[19:25] <acheronuk> but can't see where it finds that as it's not in the packaging
[19:51] <acheronuk> Riddell: I notice 1 1/2 years ago you had issues with libkdegames failing the acc tests https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/22/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t20:00
[19:51] <acheronuk> did you ever gain insight in how to fix those? I note that you disabled the tests at the time, and they did not come back until a debian merge earlier this year 
[19:51] <Riddell> gosh, back in the day
[19:52] <acheronuk> I know. I am hoping you recall, but not expecting it 
[19:52] <Riddell> I have no memory I'm afraid
[19:53] <acheronuk> no problem
[20:00] <ahoneybun> finally!!!
[20:00] <ahoneybun> I haz internet
[20:00] <acheronuk> \0/
[20:01] <ahoneybun> I think today is a week
[20:01] <acheronuk> or even \o/
[20:01] <acheronuk> I would be very frustrated
[20:01] <ahoneybun> tmobile is the only reason I survived
[20:01] <ahoneybun> Netflix and YouTube
[20:01] <ahoneybun> acheronuk: do you have a link to that telegram stuff clivejo was testing?
[20:02] <ahoneybun> if you still need a YY test case
[20:03] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: umm. no. maybe in the backlog on here? clive asked me to look at it, but with one thing and another that never happened
[20:03] <ahoneybun> I know valorie tested it and he did as well
[20:03] <ahoneybun> I think both on ZZ
[20:05] <valorie> I'll install on my YY box today if possible
[20:05] <valorie> watching the ceremony now
[20:05] <ahoneybun> with internet again I can try it out
[20:06] <ahoneybun> need to reset all my Echo Dot units though
[20:06] <acheronuk> ceremony?
[20:06] <ahoneybun> Trump
[20:06] <acheronuk> oh. no-one shot at him then?
[20:07] <ahoneybun> idk (whispers there is still time)
[20:07] <genii> Seems not
[20:07] <acheronuk> opps. no trump talk on here ;)
[20:07] <ahoneybun> well now it's US Gov stuff so 
[20:08] <ahoneybun> I'm more into who his Wife will copy next
 clivejo can we put efi on the 32 bit image of kubuntu?
[22:48] <clivejo> I have no idea how to do that
 Ok
 We'll talk about it tomorrow
[22:49] <valorie> does the Unity image have it?
[22:49] <clivejo> what is EFI?
[22:49] <acheronuk> no idea here either. did not think that worked
[22:50] <clivejo> Elephants For Injustice?
[22:50] <valorie> !efi
[22:52] <clivejo> I thought it was only on 64bit machines
[22:52] <acheronuk> i.e. what I disable on any new comp, as it is a PITA
[22:56] <valorie> so far, it's always Just Worked
[22:56] <valorie> switched to 64 a long time ago though
[23:10] <clivejo> my emails from gmail seems to have stopped working, yet other accounts are working in kmail
[23:10] <clivejo> very strange
[23:23] <clivejo> anyone else test telepathy-morse?
[23:38] <valorie> oh, will fire up my YY
[23:38] <valorie> same PPA will work?
[23:39] <clivejo> I made a new ppa for those
[23:39] <clivejo> as I had to backport telepathy-qt for xx and yy
[23:39] <valorie> I mean the same one I tested for ZZ
[23:40] <valorie> you got testing for xenial already?
[23:40] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/telepathy-morse
[23:40] <clivejo> yes, all three
[23:41] <valorie> cool, thanks
[23:41] <clivejo> but i dont have access to xx and yy installs
[23:41] <clivejo> does anyone know how to contact a github contributor directly?
[23:45] <valorie> isn't there a contact link for each person?
[23:46] <clivejo> not that I can see
[23:46]  * valorie does not have an account
[23:51] <clivejo> found a contact for him