/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/01/20/#ubuntu-za.txt

andrewlsdMorning all07:16
nsnzeromorning andrewlsd 07:19
andrewlsdHi nsnzero o/07:25
paddatrappermorning andrewlsd nsnzero 07:31
andrewlsdHI paddatrapper :-)07:37
thatgraemeguyanyone on ubuntu 16.10 and using "search" in /etc/resolv.conf?08:48
nsnzeroweechat or irssi ?10:06
Kilosgreetings everyone and inetpro 10:07
chesedonsnzero: your weechat connection exposed your IP... if that helps...10:07
chesedohi oom Kilos 10:08
Kilosgoosie i need help with thunderbird10:08
Kiloshi chesedo 10:08
inetprohi10:08
inetproKilos: wat het jy gebroke?10:08
Kilosi changed gmail passwords because they said someone in durban tried to get into my account now thunderbird wont accept the new passwords10:09
inetprothatgraemeguy: did it change in 16.10?10:09
Kilosive even purged tb and deleted .thunderbird10:09
inetproai!10:09
Kilossomewhere something in tb is remembering old passwords or something10:10
Kiloseven after purging10:10
Kilosai!10:10
Kilos2 days no mails10:10
Kilosive googled and none of those ideas work for me10:11
Kilosi only havent removed the gmail accounts10:11
Kilosdunno how i do that if i cant get it to see them10:11
Kilosor start up at least10:11
Kilosim using pop because that other thing will download 5000 mails from each account10:12
inetprosurely you just enter the new password?10:12
Kilosi have10:12
thatgraemeguyKilos: yes, my search suffixes aren't taken into account when I upgraded recently, and its now starting to drive me nuts10:12
Kilosit doesnt accept 10:12
Kilosai! what a schlep10:13
inetprothatgraemeguy: strange, I wonder why they would change that10:13
Kilosimap was the other thing10:13
Kilosthat could work but will finish all available data10:14
Kilosscared to even try10:14
Kilosand telkom connection sucks here goes off easy 10 times a day10:17
Kiloshopefully we changing isp tonight10:17
thatgraemeguyjust use the web gmail, its 2017 already, who still uses a fat mail client? :-p10:17
thatgraemeguyso limiting10:17
Kiloslol i use it so i dont need to use my browser to check mail everytime10:21
Kiloswith pop i get only new mails10:21
Kilosand also tb gives me nice reminders of meetings etc10:22
thatgraemeguyKilos: you on 16.10?10:27
Kilos16.04 thatgraemeguy im only doing lts to save data usage10:27
thatgraemeguyor anyone else for that matter10:27
thatgraemeguyok thanks10:27
andrewlsdKilos: probably a security setting in Google account settings.10:28
thatgraemeguyhmmm maybe worth comparing anyway, can you pastebin the contents of /etc/nsswitch.conf please?10:28
andrewlsdrecently Google switched everyone to "disable less secure access"10:28
Kilosgoogle actually evil10:29
andrewlsdso you have to re-enable "less secure access" in your Google Account settings otherwise T-bird won't be able to successfully authenticate.10:29
andrewlsdProblem probably wasn't Thunderbird, but that Google setting10:29
Kilosi couldnt even get skype on cell without registering with google or some thing10:29
Kilosill go try that ty andrewlsd 10:30
andrewlsdvia https://myaccount.google.com10:30
thatgraemeguy"i couldnt even get skype on cell without registering with google or some thing"10:30
thatgraemeguythat's because you need to sign into a google account to use play store10:30
thatgraemeguynothing to do with skype really10:30
Kiloslol ya installed skype then it went to registering stuff on google10:31
Kilosbefore skype actually worked10:31
thatgraemeguyyou might be thinking of microsoft, they own skype10:31
Kilosbut when i was in aus skype didnt hassle 10:31
thatgraemeguyotherwise that makes zero sense10:31
Kilosoh ya ms ty10:31
Kilosvery frustrating episode10:33
inetprothatgraemeguy: hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns10:35
inetprothat ^^ is on 16.0410:36
inetprohosts:          files resolve [!UNAVAIL=return] mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns10:36
inetpro^^ that is on a box here on 16.1010:36
Kilosgoing offline for a while to try cellc guys wbb10:36
Kilosbe good10:36
thatgraemeguydankie dankie10:36
thatgraemeguybye Oom10:36
thatgraemeguymine is hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] resolve [!UNAVAIL=return] dns10:36
thatgraemeguylet me try yours10:37
thatgraemeguywas that a clean install10:37
thatgraemeguybrb reboot10:37
inetprothatgraemeguy: I guess so10:37
thatgraemeguynope :(10:39
thatgraemeguyhttps://bin.snyman.info/mmmb2nbj10:41
jeritubuntu-za site looks like a WP but I see it isn't12:16
andrewlsdthatgraemeguy: afaik "search" only affects non-FQDN names. 12:23
andrewlsd"dedi123.cpt4" would count as a FQDN, so "search" domains are probably not being  appendend.12:24
andrewlsdalthough there seems to be an "ndots" option. the default is one "."12:25
andrewlsdyou could add "ndots:2" to your resolv.conf to see if that sorts it out12:26
andrewlsdrather: "options ndots:2"12:27
thatgraemeguyno, it'll try dedi123.cpt4 first and if that doesn't work it appends search domains12:28
thatgraemeguyndots just controls whether it even tries the given name first12:28
andrewlsd^ +112:28
thatgraemeguythis has worked for years, and as of my upgrade to 16.10 it broke12:29
thatgraemeguyI'm going to try a fresh install on a virtualbox vm and see if it does the same12:29
andrewlsdI see it works as you note that it used to work, on my 16.0412:31
andrewlsdI can ping dedi123.cpt412:31
andrewlsdwith the "search ...." values you supplied.12:31
thatgraemeguyso hard to find an existing report of this, do so few people use search domains? :-o12:31
andrewlsd(I don't have it normally in my resolv.conf)12:32
andrewlsdI use /etc/hosts entries FML. :-(12:32
thatgraemeguyhaha no12:33
andrewlsdwc -l /etc/hosts produces 4473812:33
andrewlsd(admittedly much of that is for site/ad-blocking)12:33
thatgraemeguy2017-01-20 14:38:01 (2.96 MB/s) - ‘ubuntu-16.10-desktop-i386.iso’ saved [1610612736]12:40
thatgraemeguyslow IS mirror :-D12:40
thatgraemeguybrb rebooting12:40
thatgraemeguyurgh no luck12:43
superflythatgraemeguy: you're taking into account that resolv.conf is now generated by the resolvconf service? 13:30
thatgraemeguyyes I don't have a problem getting the contents of the file looking the way it should, it just seems to be ignoring it13:34
thatgraemeguysee https://bin.snyman.info/mmmb2nbj13:34
superflyYep, I saw that. I've never used search, so I know less than you do :-(13:43
thatgraemeguymeh14:18
thatgraemeguyhave a nice weekend all :)14:19
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Kilos can someone tell me where to find this setting in gmail please17:32
Kilos<andrewlsd> so you have to re-enable "less secure access" in your Google Account settings otherwise T-bird won't be able to successfully authenticate17:32
Kilosthere are so many settings but i cant find where to re-enable that one17:35
Kilosi am at this page https://myaccount.google.com/security17:42
Kilosandrewlsd come back17:42
Kilosinetpro wake again up17:59
Kilostummy must be full by now18:00
* Kilos waves to superfly18:04
superflyHi Kilos 18:04
smilebye :p 21:29
squish102superfly: hows things going23:14
superflysquish102: slowly23:43
superflyMy green card is on its way though 23:43

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