andrewlsd | Morning all | 07:16 |
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nsnzero | morning andrewlsd | 07:19 |
andrewlsd | Hi nsnzero o/ | 07:25 |
paddatrapper | morning andrewlsd nsnzero | 07:31 |
andrewlsd | HI paddatrapper :-) | 07:37 |
thatgraemeguy | anyone on ubuntu 16.10 and using "search" in /etc/resolv.conf? | 08:48 |
nsnzero | weechat or irssi ? | 10:06 |
Kilos | greetings everyone and inetpro | 10:07 |
chesedo | nsnzero: your weechat connection exposed your IP... if that helps... | 10:07 |
chesedo | hi oom Kilos | 10:08 |
Kilos | goosie i need help with thunderbird | 10:08 |
Kilos | hi chesedo | 10:08 |
inetpro | hi | 10:08 |
inetpro | Kilos: wat het jy gebroke? | 10:08 |
Kilos | i changed gmail passwords because they said someone in durban tried to get into my account now thunderbird wont accept the new passwords | 10:09 |
inetpro | thatgraemeguy: did it change in 16.10? | 10:09 |
Kilos | ive even purged tb and deleted .thunderbird | 10:09 |
inetpro | ai! | 10:09 |
Kilos | somewhere something in tb is remembering old passwords or something | 10:10 |
Kilos | even after purging | 10:10 |
Kilos | ai! | 10:10 |
Kilos | 2 days no mails | 10:10 |
Kilos | ive googled and none of those ideas work for me | 10:11 |
Kilos | i only havent removed the gmail accounts | 10:11 |
Kilos | dunno how i do that if i cant get it to see them | 10:11 |
Kilos | or start up at least | 10:11 |
Kilos | im using pop because that other thing will download 5000 mails from each account | 10:12 |
inetpro | surely you just enter the new password? | 10:12 |
Kilos | i have | 10:12 |
thatgraemeguy | Kilos: yes, my search suffixes aren't taken into account when I upgraded recently, and its now starting to drive me nuts | 10:12 |
Kilos | it doesnt accept | 10:12 |
Kilos | ai! what a schlep | 10:13 |
inetpro | thatgraemeguy: strange, I wonder why they would change that | 10:13 |
Kilos | imap was the other thing | 10:13 |
Kilos | that could work but will finish all available data | 10:14 |
Kilos | scared to even try | 10:14 |
Kilos | and telkom connection sucks here goes off easy 10 times a day | 10:17 |
Kilos | hopefully we changing isp tonight | 10:17 |
thatgraemeguy | just use the web gmail, its 2017 already, who still uses a fat mail client? :-p | 10:17 |
thatgraemeguy | so limiting | 10:17 |
Kilos | lol i use it so i dont need to use my browser to check mail everytime | 10:21 |
Kilos | with pop i get only new mails | 10:21 |
Kilos | and also tb gives me nice reminders of meetings etc | 10:22 |
thatgraemeguy | Kilos: you on 16.10? | 10:27 |
Kilos | 16.04 thatgraemeguy im only doing lts to save data usage | 10:27 |
thatgraemeguy | or anyone else for that matter | 10:27 |
thatgraemeguy | ok thanks | 10:27 |
andrewlsd | Kilos: probably a security setting in Google account settings. | 10:28 |
thatgraemeguy | hmmm maybe worth comparing anyway, can you pastebin the contents of /etc/nsswitch.conf please? | 10:28 |
andrewlsd | recently Google switched everyone to "disable less secure access" | 10:28 |
Kilos | google actually evil | 10:29 |
andrewlsd | so you have to re-enable "less secure access" in your Google Account settings otherwise T-bird won't be able to successfully authenticate. | 10:29 |
andrewlsd | Problem probably wasn't Thunderbird, but that Google setting | 10:29 |
Kilos | i couldnt even get skype on cell without registering with google or some thing | 10:29 |
Kilos | ill go try that ty andrewlsd | 10:30 |
andrewlsd | via https://myaccount.google.com | 10:30 |
thatgraemeguy | "i couldnt even get skype on cell without registering with google or some thing" | 10:30 |
thatgraemeguy | that's because you need to sign into a google account to use play store | 10:30 |
thatgraemeguy | nothing to do with skype really | 10:30 |
Kilos | lol ya installed skype then it went to registering stuff on google | 10:31 |
Kilos | before skype actually worked | 10:31 |
thatgraemeguy | you might be thinking of microsoft, they own skype | 10:31 |
Kilos | but when i was in aus skype didnt hassle | 10:31 |
thatgraemeguy | otherwise that makes zero sense | 10:31 |
Kilos | oh ya ms ty | 10:31 |
Kilos | very frustrating episode | 10:33 |
inetpro | thatgraemeguy: hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns | 10:35 |
inetpro | that ^^ is on 16.04 | 10:36 |
inetpro | hosts: files resolve [!UNAVAIL=return] mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns | 10:36 |
inetpro | ^^ that is on a box here on 16.10 | 10:36 |
Kilos | going offline for a while to try cellc guys wbb | 10:36 |
Kilos | be good | 10:36 |
thatgraemeguy | dankie dankie | 10:36 |
thatgraemeguy | bye Oom | 10:36 |
thatgraemeguy | mine is hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] resolve [!UNAVAIL=return] dns | 10:36 |
thatgraemeguy | let me try yours | 10:37 |
thatgraemeguy | was that a clean install | 10:37 |
thatgraemeguy | brb reboot | 10:37 |
inetpro | thatgraemeguy: I guess so | 10:37 |
thatgraemeguy | nope :( | 10:39 |
thatgraemeguy | https://bin.snyman.info/mmmb2nbj | 10:41 |
jerit | ubuntu-za site looks like a WP but I see it isn't | 12:16 |
andrewlsd | thatgraemeguy: afaik "search" only affects non-FQDN names. | 12:23 |
andrewlsd | "dedi123.cpt4" would count as a FQDN, so "search" domains are probably not being appendend. | 12:24 |
andrewlsd | although there seems to be an "ndots" option. the default is one "." | 12:25 |
andrewlsd | you could add "ndots:2" to your resolv.conf to see if that sorts it out | 12:26 |
andrewlsd | rather: "options ndots:2" | 12:27 |
thatgraemeguy | no, it'll try dedi123.cpt4 first and if that doesn't work it appends search domains | 12:28 |
thatgraemeguy | ndots just controls whether it even tries the given name first | 12:28 |
andrewlsd | ^ +1 | 12:28 |
thatgraemeguy | this has worked for years, and as of my upgrade to 16.10 it broke | 12:29 |
thatgraemeguy | I'm going to try a fresh install on a virtualbox vm and see if it does the same | 12:29 |
andrewlsd | I see it works as you note that it used to work, on my 16.04 | 12:31 |
andrewlsd | I can ping dedi123.cpt4 | 12:31 |
andrewlsd | with the "search ...." values you supplied. | 12:31 |
thatgraemeguy | so hard to find an existing report of this, do so few people use search domains? :-o | 12:31 |
andrewlsd | (I don't have it normally in my resolv.conf) | 12:32 |
andrewlsd | I use /etc/hosts entries FML. :-( | 12:32 |
thatgraemeguy | haha no | 12:33 |
andrewlsd | wc -l /etc/hosts produces 44738 | 12:33 |
andrewlsd | (admittedly much of that is for site/ad-blocking) | 12:33 |
thatgraemeguy | 2017-01-20 14:38:01 (2.96 MB/s) - ‘ubuntu-16.10-desktop-i386.iso’ saved [1610612736] | 12:40 |
thatgraemeguy | slow IS mirror :-D | 12:40 |
thatgraemeguy | brb rebooting | 12:40 |
thatgraemeguy | urgh no luck | 12:43 |
superfly | thatgraemeguy: you're taking into account that resolv.conf is now generated by the resolvconf service? | 13:30 |
thatgraemeguy | yes I don't have a problem getting the contents of the file looking the way it should, it just seems to be ignoring it | 13:34 |
thatgraemeguy | see https://bin.snyman.info/mmmb2nbj | 13:34 |
superfly | Yep, I saw that. I've never used search, so I know less than you do :-( | 13:43 |
thatgraemeguy | meh | 14:18 |
thatgraemeguy | have a nice weekend all :) | 14:19 |
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Kilos | can someone tell me where to find this setting in gmail please | 17:32 |
Kilos | <andrewlsd> so you have to re-enable "less secure access" in your Google Account settings otherwise T-bird won't be able to successfully authenticate | 17:32 |
Kilos | there are so many settings but i cant find where to re-enable that one | 17:35 |
Kilos | i am at this page https://myaccount.google.com/security | 17:42 |
Kilos | andrewlsd come back | 17:42 |
Kilos | inetpro wake again up | 17:59 |
Kilos | tummy must be full by now | 18:00 |
* Kilos waves to superfly | 18:04 | |
superfly | Hi Kilos | 18:04 |
smile | bye :p | 21:29 |
squish102 | superfly: hows things going | 23:14 |
superfly | squish102: slowly | 23:43 |
superfly | My green card is on its way though | 23:43 |
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