[07:16] Morning all [07:19] morning andrewlsd [07:25] Hi nsnzero o/ [07:31] morning andrewlsd nsnzero [07:37] HI paddatrapper :-) [08:48] anyone on ubuntu 16.10 and using "search" in /etc/resolv.conf? [10:06] weechat or irssi ? [10:07] greetings everyone and inetpro [10:07] nsnzero: your weechat connection exposed your IP... if that helps... [10:08] hi oom Kilos [10:08] goosie i need help with thunderbird [10:08] hi chesedo [10:08] hi [10:08] Kilos: wat het jy gebroke? [10:09] i changed gmail passwords because they said someone in durban tried to get into my account now thunderbird wont accept the new passwords [10:09] thatgraemeguy: did it change in 16.10? [10:09] ive even purged tb and deleted .thunderbird [10:09] ai! [10:10] somewhere something in tb is remembering old passwords or something [10:10] even after purging [10:10] ai! [10:10] 2 days no mails [10:11] ive googled and none of those ideas work for me [10:11] i only havent removed the gmail accounts [10:11] dunno how i do that if i cant get it to see them [10:11] or start up at least [10:12] im using pop because that other thing will download 5000 mails from each account [10:12] surely you just enter the new password? [10:12] i have [10:12] Kilos: yes, my search suffixes aren't taken into account when I upgraded recently, and its now starting to drive me nuts [10:12] it doesnt accept [10:13] ai! what a schlep [10:13] thatgraemeguy: strange, I wonder why they would change that [10:13] imap was the other thing [10:14] that could work but will finish all available data [10:14] scared to even try [10:17] and telkom connection sucks here goes off easy 10 times a day [10:17] hopefully we changing isp tonight [10:17] just use the web gmail, its 2017 already, who still uses a fat mail client? :-p [10:17] so limiting [10:21] lol i use it so i dont need to use my browser to check mail everytime [10:21] with pop i get only new mails [10:22] and also tb gives me nice reminders of meetings etc [10:27] Kilos: you on 16.10? [10:27] 16.04 thatgraemeguy im only doing lts to save data usage [10:27] or anyone else for that matter [10:27] ok thanks [10:28] Kilos: probably a security setting in Google account settings. [10:28] hmmm maybe worth comparing anyway, can you pastebin the contents of /etc/nsswitch.conf please? [10:28] recently Google switched everyone to "disable less secure access" [10:29] google actually evil [10:29] so you have to re-enable "less secure access" in your Google Account settings otherwise T-bird won't be able to successfully authenticate. [10:29] Problem probably wasn't Thunderbird, but that Google setting [10:29] i couldnt even get skype on cell without registering with google or some thing [10:30] ill go try that ty andrewlsd [10:30] via https://myaccount.google.com [10:30] "i couldnt even get skype on cell without registering with google or some thing" [10:30] that's because you need to sign into a google account to use play store [10:30] nothing to do with skype really [10:31] lol ya installed skype then it went to registering stuff on google [10:31] before skype actually worked [10:31] you might be thinking of microsoft, they own skype [10:31] but when i was in aus skype didnt hassle [10:31] otherwise that makes zero sense [10:31] oh ya ms ty [10:33] very frustrating episode [10:35] thatgraemeguy: hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns [10:36] that ^^ is on 16.04 [10:36] hosts: files resolve [!UNAVAIL=return] mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns [10:36] ^^ that is on a box here on 16.10 [10:36] going offline for a while to try cellc guys wbb [10:36] be good [10:36] dankie dankie [10:36] bye Oom [10:36] mine is hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] resolve [!UNAVAIL=return] dns [10:37] let me try yours [10:37] was that a clean install [10:37] brb reboot [10:37] thatgraemeguy: I guess so [10:39] nope :( [10:41] https://bin.snyman.info/mmmb2nbj [12:16] ubuntu-za site looks like a WP but I see it isn't [12:23] thatgraemeguy: afaik "search" only affects non-FQDN names. [12:24] "dedi123.cpt4" would count as a FQDN, so "search" domains are probably not being appendend. [12:25] although there seems to be an "ndots" option. the default is one "." [12:26] you could add "ndots:2" to your resolv.conf to see if that sorts it out [12:27] rather: "options ndots:2" [12:28] no, it'll try dedi123.cpt4 first and if that doesn't work it appends search domains [12:28] ndots just controls whether it even tries the given name first [12:28] ^ +1 [12:29] this has worked for years, and as of my upgrade to 16.10 it broke [12:29] I'm going to try a fresh install on a virtualbox vm and see if it does the same [12:31] I see it works as you note that it used to work, on my 16.04 [12:31] I can ping dedi123.cpt4 [12:31] with the "search ...." values you supplied. [12:31] so hard to find an existing report of this, do so few people use search domains? :-o [12:32] (I don't have it normally in my resolv.conf) [12:32] I use /etc/hosts entries FML. :-( [12:33] haha no [12:33] wc -l /etc/hosts produces 44738 [12:33] (admittedly much of that is for site/ad-blocking) [12:40] 2017-01-20 14:38:01 (2.96 MB/s) - ‘ubuntu-16.10-desktop-i386.iso’ saved [1610612736] [12:40] slow IS mirror :-D [12:40] brb rebooting [12:43] urgh no luck [13:30] thatgraemeguy: you're taking into account that resolv.conf is now generated by the resolvconf service? [13:34] yes I don't have a problem getting the contents of the file looking the way it should, it just seems to be ignoring it [13:34] see https://bin.snyman.info/mmmb2nbj [13:43] Yep, I saw that. I've never used search, so I know less than you do :-( [14:18] meh [14:19] have a nice weekend all :) === smile|away is now known as smile [17:32] can someone tell me where to find this setting in gmail please [17:32] so you have to re-enable "less secure access" in your Google Account settings otherwise T-bird won't be able to successfully authenticate [17:35] there are so many settings but i cant find where to re-enable that one [17:42] i am at this page https://myaccount.google.com/security [17:42] andrewlsd come back [17:59] inetpro wake again up [18:00] tummy must be full by now [18:04] * Kilos waves to superfly [18:04] Hi Kilos [21:29] bye :p [23:14] superfly: hows things going [23:43] squish102: slowly [23:43] My green card is on its way though