[07:16] <andrewlsd> Morning all
[07:19] <nsnzero> morning andrewlsd 
[07:25] <andrewlsd> Hi nsnzero o/
[07:31] <paddatrapper> morning andrewlsd nsnzero 
[07:37] <andrewlsd> HI paddatrapper :-)
[08:48] <thatgraemeguy> anyone on ubuntu 16.10 and using "search" in /etc/resolv.conf?
[10:06] <nsnzero> weechat or irssi ?
[10:07] <Kilos> greetings everyone and inetpro 
[10:07] <chesedo> nsnzero: your weechat connection exposed your IP... if that helps...
[10:08] <chesedo> hi oom Kilos 
[10:08] <Kilos> goosie i need help with thunderbird
[10:08] <Kilos> hi chesedo 
[10:08] <inetpro> hi
[10:08] <inetpro> Kilos: wat het jy gebroke?
[10:09] <Kilos> i changed gmail passwords because they said someone in durban tried to get into my account now thunderbird wont accept the new passwords
[10:09] <inetpro> thatgraemeguy: did it change in 16.10?
[10:09] <Kilos> ive even purged tb and deleted .thunderbird
[10:09] <inetpro> ai!
[10:10] <Kilos> somewhere something in tb is remembering old passwords or something
[10:10] <Kilos> even after purging
[10:10] <Kilos> ai!
[10:10] <Kilos> 2 days no mails
[10:11] <Kilos> ive googled and none of those ideas work for me
[10:11] <Kilos> i only havent removed the gmail accounts
[10:11] <Kilos> dunno how i do that if i cant get it to see them
[10:11] <Kilos> or start up at least
[10:12] <Kilos> im using pop because that other thing will download 5000 mails from each account
[10:12] <inetpro> surely you just enter the new password?
[10:12] <Kilos> i have
[10:12] <thatgraemeguy> Kilos: yes, my search suffixes aren't taken into account when I upgraded recently, and its now starting to drive me nuts
[10:12] <Kilos> it doesnt accept 
[10:13] <Kilos> ai! what a schlep
[10:13] <inetpro> thatgraemeguy: strange, I wonder why they would change that
[10:13] <Kilos> imap was the other thing
[10:14] <Kilos> that could work but will finish all available data
[10:14] <Kilos> scared to even try
[10:17] <Kilos> and telkom connection sucks here goes off easy 10 times a day
[10:17] <Kilos> hopefully we changing isp tonight
[10:17] <thatgraemeguy> just use the web gmail, its 2017 already, who still uses a fat mail client? :-p
[10:17] <thatgraemeguy> so limiting
[10:21] <Kilos> lol i use it so i dont need to use my browser to check mail everytime
[10:21] <Kilos> with pop i get only new mails
[10:22] <Kilos> and also tb gives me nice reminders of meetings etc
[10:27] <thatgraemeguy> Kilos: you on 16.10?
[10:27] <Kilos> 16.04 thatgraemeguy im only doing lts to save data usage
[10:27] <thatgraemeguy> or anyone else for that matter
[10:27] <thatgraemeguy> ok thanks
[10:28] <andrewlsd> Kilos: probably a security setting in Google account settings.
[10:28] <thatgraemeguy> hmmm maybe worth comparing anyway, can you pastebin the contents of /etc/nsswitch.conf please?
[10:28] <andrewlsd> recently Google switched everyone to "disable less secure access"
[10:29] <Kilos> google actually evil
[10:29] <andrewlsd> so you have to re-enable "less secure access" in your Google Account settings otherwise T-bird won't be able to successfully authenticate.
[10:29] <andrewlsd> Problem probably wasn't Thunderbird, but that Google setting
[10:29] <Kilos> i couldnt even get skype on cell without registering with google or some thing
[10:30] <Kilos> ill go try that ty andrewlsd 
[10:30] <andrewlsd> via https://myaccount.google.com
[10:30] <thatgraemeguy> "i couldnt even get skype on cell without registering with google or some thing"
[10:30] <thatgraemeguy> that's because you need to sign into a google account to use play store
[10:30] <thatgraemeguy> nothing to do with skype really
[10:31] <Kilos> lol ya installed skype then it went to registering stuff on google
[10:31] <Kilos> before skype actually worked
[10:31] <thatgraemeguy> you might be thinking of microsoft, they own skype
[10:31] <Kilos> but when i was in aus skype didnt hassle 
[10:31] <thatgraemeguy> otherwise that makes zero sense
[10:31] <Kilos> oh ya ms ty
[10:33] <Kilos> very frustrating episode
[10:35] <inetpro> thatgraemeguy: hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns
[10:36] <inetpro> that ^^ is on 16.04
[10:36] <inetpro> hosts:          files resolve [!UNAVAIL=return] mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns
[10:36] <inetpro> ^^ that is on a box here on 16.10
[10:36] <Kilos> going offline for a while to try cellc guys wbb
[10:36] <Kilos> be good
[10:36] <thatgraemeguy> dankie dankie
[10:36] <thatgraemeguy> bye Oom
[10:36] <thatgraemeguy> mine is hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] resolve [!UNAVAIL=return] dns
[10:37] <thatgraemeguy> let me try yours
[10:37] <thatgraemeguy> was that a clean install
[10:37] <thatgraemeguy> brb reboot
[10:37] <inetpro> thatgraemeguy: I guess so
[10:39] <thatgraemeguy> nope :(
[10:41] <thatgraemeguy> https://bin.snyman.info/mmmb2nbj
[12:16] <jerit> ubuntu-za site looks like a WP but I see it isn't
[12:23] <andrewlsd> thatgraemeguy: afaik "search" only affects non-FQDN names. 
[12:24] <andrewlsd> "dedi123.cpt4" would count as a FQDN, so "search" domains are probably not being  appendend.
[12:25] <andrewlsd> although there seems to be an "ndots" option. the default is one "."
[12:26] <andrewlsd> you could add "ndots:2" to your resolv.conf to see if that sorts it out
[12:27] <andrewlsd> rather: "options ndots:2"
[12:28] <thatgraemeguy> no, it'll try dedi123.cpt4 first and if that doesn't work it appends search domains
[12:28] <thatgraemeguy> ndots just controls whether it even tries the given name first
[12:28] <andrewlsd> ^ +1
[12:29] <thatgraemeguy> this has worked for years, and as of my upgrade to 16.10 it broke
[12:29] <thatgraemeguy> I'm going to try a fresh install on a virtualbox vm and see if it does the same
[12:31] <andrewlsd> I see it works as you note that it used to work, on my 16.04
[12:31] <andrewlsd> I can ping dedi123.cpt4
[12:31] <andrewlsd> with the "search ...." values you supplied.
[12:31] <thatgraemeguy> so hard to find an existing report of this, do so few people use search domains? :-o
[12:32] <andrewlsd> (I don't have it normally in my resolv.conf)
[12:32] <andrewlsd> I use /etc/hosts entries FML. :-(
[12:33] <thatgraemeguy> haha no
[12:33] <andrewlsd> wc -l /etc/hosts produces 44738
[12:33] <andrewlsd> (admittedly much of that is for site/ad-blocking)
[12:40] <thatgraemeguy> 2017-01-20 14:38:01 (2.96 MB/s) - ‘ubuntu-16.10-desktop-i386.iso’ saved [1610612736]
[12:40] <thatgraemeguy> slow IS mirror :-D
[12:40] <thatgraemeguy> brb rebooting
[12:43] <thatgraemeguy> urgh no luck
[13:30] <superfly> thatgraemeguy: you're taking into account that resolv.conf is now generated by the resolvconf service? 
[13:34] <thatgraemeguy> yes I don't have a problem getting the contents of the file looking the way it should, it just seems to be ignoring it
[13:34] <thatgraemeguy> see https://bin.snyman.info/mmmb2nbj
[13:43] <superfly> Yep, I saw that. I've never used search, so I know less than you do :-(
[14:18] <thatgraemeguy> meh
[14:19] <thatgraemeguy> have a nice weekend all :)
[17:32] <Kilos>  can someone tell me where to find this setting in gmail please
 so you have to re-enable "less secure access" in your Google Account settings otherwise T-bird won't be able to successfully authenticate
[17:35] <Kilos> there are so many settings but i cant find where to re-enable that one
[17:42] <Kilos> i am at this page https://myaccount.google.com/security
[17:42] <Kilos> andrewlsd come back
[17:59] <Kilos> inetpro wake again up
[18:00] <Kilos> tummy must be full by now
[18:04]  * Kilos waves to superfly
[18:04] <superfly> Hi Kilos 
[21:29] <smile> bye :p 
[23:14] <squish102> superfly: hows things going
[23:43] <superfly> squish102: slowly
[23:43] <superfly> My green card is on its way though