[00:00] <dwall> Our website is running on nginx 0.7.65 and is recieving a bad gateway and has an error of:
[00:00] <dwall> 3711 connect() failed (111: Connection refused) while  upstream: "fastcgi://127.0.0.1: 8002", host:
[00:00] <dwall> I think the issue is with fastcgi -I don't think this is installed but this is where I need help. How would I resolve this bad gateway?
[00:00] <k1l_> aruns: how did you change to the other shell?
[00:00] <aruns> k1l_: sudo chsh -s /usr/bin/fish *myuserhere*
[00:01] <k1l_> so now running the command with /bin/bash dosnt work?
[00:01] <aruns> k1l_: I used /bin/bash as an example, but doesn't work with any shell listed under /etc/shells
[00:02] <aruns> k1l_: The error message 'Cannot change ID to root', I presume it's file permission related, just not sure how.
[00:02] <vacho> k1l_: when I SSH, it's asking for pw tho
[00:02] <vacho> k1l_: and I am hoping I can do it with one line command, so I can setup a cron.
[00:02] <k1l_> aruns: did you use sudo?
[00:02] <aruns> k1l_: Yeah, at the moment, it's the only way I can change shell for my user.
[00:02] <k1l_> vacho: so you need to use ssh keys so it doesnt ask for password
[00:03] <aruns> vacho: You can generate an SSH key pair using RSA as an example with ssh-keygen -t rsa
[00:04] <aruns> This should generate id_rsa and id_rsa.pub
[00:04] <aruns> Put id_rsa, the private key, on the target server.
[00:04] <k1l_> vacho: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[00:04] <santos177> hello everybody
[00:04] <aruns> Hi.
[00:04] <Langrisser> hello
[00:05] <santos177> good coding dudes!
[00:05] <k1l_> aruns: you could try "usermod -s /bin/bash USERNAME"
[00:09] <aruns> k1l_: Thanks, that seems to work.
[00:13] <vacho> k1l_: thanks man!
[00:20] <K1rk> Hey guys, I'm having an issue with an ssh chroot I'm trying to set up... getting /bin/bash: not a directory, but I know it's in my chroot location...  https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2349919&p=13596680
[00:26] <countingdaisies> Hi,  so ...  bekks and another guy were helping me and I restarted the computer. The results are the same as : http://pastebin.com/9mudHPji
[00:26] <countingdaisies> ^nothing has changed
[00:34] <dwall> Hi guys, I'd like some help on a bad gateway issue I'm trying to figure out.
[00:34] <dwall> I think the problem lies here:
[00:34] <dwall>         fastcgi_pass 127.0.0.1:8002
[00:34] <dwall> but I don't see anything listing port on netstat.
[00:34] <dwall> The package that is installed is: libapache2-mod-fcgid.
[00:34] <dwall> Any ideas?
[00:37] <ipwn> how do i make xscreensaver work w fortune?? if i select "fortune" under "Programs" nothing happens
[00:46] <xubuntu37d> Hi all, sorry to intrude like this but I'm having wifi issues on Xubuntu 16.04 and I'm wondering if I can seek help for them here. The problem is with an 802.1x secured school network; at first it failed to connect, repeatedly asking for a username and password, but after I ran "sudo apt-get remove --purge wicd" on the advice of the internet, it now claims to be connected, but nothing will actually load. Is this an issue anyone h
[00:49] <VulcanJedi> xubuntu37d, this is a fine place to ask for help with Ubuntu, you could also try #Networking
[00:50] <xubuntu37d> Thank you VulcanJedi , I will check there as well.
[00:55] <countingdaisies> If I run a web with apache3 on localhost, do I still need to allow incoming traffic on ports 80 and 443 ?
[00:58] <rizonz> is there a known run path for zabbix agent in ubuntu ?
[01:06] <rizonz> ok found
[01:06] <annonhide> hello guys
[01:07] <annonhide> i need want a help
[01:12] <rnetocombr> 16.04.2 will be released today ? or was delayed ?
[01:18] <Sargun> What's the policy around systemd updates for 16.04? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/amd64/libsystemd0
[01:22] <phablet> how can
[01:23] <phablet> ca i get firefox on my ubuntu tablet?
[01:24] <k1l_> rnetocombr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule says februrary 2nd
[01:33] <ipwn> how do i make xscreensaver work w fortune?? if i select "fortune" under "Programs" nothing happens
[01:45] <newcoder> https://askubuntu.com/ , http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/ubuntu , https://ubuntuforums.org/ , what's the difference? Which one should someone use?
[01:46] <k1l_> askubuntu is one subsection of stackexchange. ubuntuforums is a forum. you can use whatever suits you best.
[01:47] <Bashing-om> newcoder: My take, use either or both . Whatever you are the more comfortable with at any given time . take care in "cross posting" .
[01:48] <newcoder> Multiple sites are problem
[01:48] <newcoder> One site is good instead of multiple sites for same service,
[01:49] <Bashing-om> newcoder: If ya running 'buntu, then why not stay with a forum devoted particularly to ubuntu ?
[01:49] <Sean_McG> hi
[01:50] <newcoder> Bashing-om: Are you with this: https://ubuntuforums.org/ ?
[01:50] <k1l_> newcoder: well, some parts of the ubuntu community prefer the askubuntu way, some prefer the forums, some prefer irc, some even still use mailinglists. there even is a discourse thingy. its the peoples choice, its their usecase, their taste.
[01:50] <Bashing-om> newcoder: Yeah, so I may be just that much more prejudiced :)
[01:50] <Sean_McG> when I was using 14.04, the daily logwatch job would run at around 3:10 a.m. and ever since I upgraded to 16.04 it is now running at around 7:30 a.m. How do I change this back?
[01:52] <Sean_McG> I'm going to guess that this change is something to do with switching to systemd from upstart, but not sure.
[02:00] <newcoder> If there is one site, then all people will discuss about ubuntu issues there, now they are splitted
[02:01] <newcoder> So you may not get the ubuntu expert in one site
[02:01] <rizonz> anyone using zabbix here ? I have some question about logpaths
[02:03] <k1l_> newcoder: but you might lose some experts since they dont like the website you like the most. so this issue is more philosophically
[02:04] <Bashing-om> newcoder: Keep in mind though, that ubuntu is a very complex system; no one knows all about everything .
[02:04] <newcoder> People say, ubuntu is the easiest linux distribution
[02:04] <newcoder> to use
[02:05] <Sean_McG> it's derived from Debian, so wouldn't that property be transitive?
[02:07] <k1l_> newcoder: its hard to measure the easy of use, but ubuntu tries to be easy to use, yes.
[02:08] <newcoder> Ubuntu has newer packages than debian stable
[02:08] <Sean_McG> tru.dat
[02:08] <Bashing-om> !latest | newcoder
[02:16] <kk4ewt> Bashing-om,  newcoder is crossposting in #fedora and in #ubuntu
[02:17] <MannyLNJ> Help please. every time I start my system I get the message that there has been an error
[02:17] <kk4ewt> MannyLNJ,  what message
[02:18] <MannyLNJ> kk4ewt, It says something about a system error occuring and asks if I want to send a message about it
[02:18] <waltman> I've been wondering why fonts look so awful on Linux.
[02:19] <waltman> My normal text font on macOS is menlo 10 pt. I copied the font file over to my ubuntu box, and the letters are all like twice the size.
[02:19] <waltman> It's not the monitor, because I often use the same monitor plugged into my Macbook and the letters look fine there.
[02:20] <sabrehagen> hi all, i'm having trouble mounting an xfs partition via fstab. i can mount it fine via the command line. i think i must have a bad option on the mount, but can't find where the available mount options are on archwiki. here's my output: https://gist.github.com/sabrehagen/e414bd6d26e0b46499684d7654970796
[02:21] <kk4ewt> waltman,  opensource vs proprietary
[02:22] <explodes> Oh man, what is the default backup utility called? I need to exclude some stuff
[02:22] <waltman> So then are there opensource text fonts that don't have this problem?
[02:24] <HelpMePlease> good evening... anybody around?
[02:25] <HelpMePlease> guess not
[02:25] <mww113> HelpMePlease: hello
[02:25] <mww113> what's going on?
[02:26] <HelpMePlease> i have a really stupid apache problem that i'm hoping someone can help me with
[02:27] <HelpMePlease> basically...i just added an SSL certificate for the first time
[02:27] <HelpMePlease> followed the instructions and everything...but when i connect to the site i get ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR
[02:28] <Sean_McG> tried running the security test from ssllabs.com?
[02:28] <HelpMePlease> if i can get the server running again i can try that
[02:28] <mww113> did you verify your system time is correct?
[02:28] <HelpMePlease> i tried the SSL troubleshooter from digicert earlier and was unable to connect
[02:29] <HelpMePlease> system time is correct
[02:29] <Sean_McG> to make sure it doesn't drift, you might want to set up NTP
[02:29] <Sean_McG> (if you haven't already)
[02:29] <HelpMePlease> it's actually an Azure VM
[02:30] <Sean_McG> ah, fair enough.
[02:30] <HelpMePlease> i'm pretty sure azure handles that with it's agents
[02:30] <HelpMePlease> but i could be wrong
[02:30] <Sean_McG> the Apache logs are usually pretty verbose when SSL is misconfigured
[02:30] <HelpMePlease> the last thing i did before apache stopped starting was to run a2ensite for the config file i'm working with
[02:31] <HelpMePlease> that's what i think the issue is though...i'm getting nothing in error.log
[02:31] <HelpMePlease> first place i looked
[02:31] <HelpMePlease> i even set loglevel and still didn't get anything
[02:31] <Sean_McG> OK, so if you remove that site from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled, does Apache start correctly?
[02:32] <HelpMePlease> no
[02:32] <Sean_McG> sites-enabled are just symbolic links to files in sites-available
[02:32] <HelpMePlease> just tried that actually
[02:34] <HelpMePlease> i take that back...i got it started back up
[02:35] <HelpMePlease> so question...i'm new to this
[02:35] <HelpMePlease> what is the relationship between sites-available and sites-enabled
[02:36] <Sean_McG> sites-available is just a set of independent configurations for sites in Apache, they don't do anything until they are enabled
[02:36] <Sean_McG> a2ensite basically just adds a symbolic link to sites-enabled for that site
[02:38] <HelpMePlease> so to enable the site i just run a2ensite nameofconfig.conf file?
[02:38] <HelpMePlease> which adds a symlink to sites-enabled
[02:38] <Sean_McG> yes.
[02:39] <HelpMePlease> gotcha...so as soon as i enabled my site i see a symlink in sites-enabled
[02:39] <HelpMePlease> and apache can't start
[02:40] <Sean_McG> so then it narrows it down to something with that specific site configuration
[02:40] <HelpMePlease> yep
[02:40] <funkadactyl> Is anyone here good with Openssh? I need to confine users to their home directory only so they cannot use the 'cd' command to navigate the rest of the file system
[02:40] <Sean_McG> funkadactyl: that's not really the function of openssh
[02:41] <Sean_McG> funkadactyl: it sounds like you want a custom chroot'ed shell or something similar
[02:41] <HelpMePlease> i'm curious if my logging is broken...i have a tail on the error.log and i see nothing
[02:42] <HelpMePlease> just shutdown
[02:42] <Sean_McG> what about in the access.log?
[02:43] <HelpMePlease> nothing..but i assume that won't see anything until the server is up again
[02:43] <HelpMePlease> how do i determine why apache isn't starting
[02:43] <Sean_McG> other system logs
[02:43] <HelpMePlease> good call...let me take a look
[02:43] <funkadactyl> yeah basically what you said Sean_Mcg, I have some friends that want to use my server remotely via ssh. In the event that they pick a really bad password and their account is compromised, I don't want their user to have access to view any of the files in other users folders with nano or vi
[02:44] <Sean_McG> funkadactyl: I don't have any experience configuring a system to do that, but maybe someone else here does.
[02:45] <funkadactyl> This sounds like an impossible task based on the rest of the criteria, but I thought that chrooting them was a good start, just not sure how to chroot with SSH
[02:45] <HelpMePlease> syslog had the error
[02:46] <Sean_McG> funkadactyl: regarding the password concerns, maybe you should enforce heavier password policy than the defaults
[02:46] <HelpMePlease> bingo...think i've got it
[02:46] <HelpMePlease> i'm in....perfect
[02:47] <HelpMePlease> thanks so much for the help man
[02:48] <funkadactyl> Sean_McG: I have it set up with fail2ban and I have complex password policies enabled, this is more of an extra precaution, as well as a way to keep people from snooping on my settings and other peoples home directories
[02:51] <funkadactyl> If they need to run something on their user, I would set up the permissions on a per user basis so they can run what they need to. But I would like to be able to prevent people from doing something stupid, such as sharing a service on a port that is occupied by something else and causing access problems for me and everyone else
[02:52] <coder-bts> hi
[02:52] <coder-bts> anybody here?
[02:52] <coder-bts> Does anybody using USB to VGA adapter on Ubuntu?
[02:54] <coder-bts> hi?
[02:54] <PickledEggs> Hi coder-bts
[02:54] <PickledEggs> I do not, sorry
[02:54] <Sean_McG> neither do I
[02:55] <coder-bts> Ok then..
[02:55] <coder-bts> I just bought one using displaylink's chip
[02:55] <coder-bts> but the latest official driver is for Ubuntu 16.04 lts
[02:56] <coder-bts> but mine is Ubuntu 16.10
[02:56] <funkadactyl> coder-bas can you run lsusb in terminal and see what the vendor of the device is?
[02:57] <coder-bts> well, when i plugin it, the system will just get stuck
[02:58] <funkadactyl> coder-bts *
[02:58] <coder-bts> ooops
[02:58] <coder-bts> not system stuck, but the display get stuck
[02:58] <funkadactyl> What do you mean by stuck?
[02:58] <funkadactyl> no display at all or it freezes until you unplug the device?
[02:59] <coder-bts> the display just... not changing and pointer not moving
[02:59] <coder-bts> yeah, freeze
[02:59] <Sean_McG> if it's a kernel module, it probably isn't built for the kernel shipping in 16.10
[02:59] <Sean_McG> (not sure which version that is, I use 16.04 over here)
[02:59] <funkadactyl> yeah kms and strange off band displays in ubuntu can get hairy
[02:59] <coder-bts> But I really need one driver for 16.10
[02:59] <coder-bts> but there isn't
[03:00] <funkadactyl> can you try to get to a tty with it plugged in?
[03:00] <coder-bts> that makes sense
[03:00] <coder-bts> hold on
[03:03] <funkadactyl> coder-bts: if its an 'off brand' display but has a common chipset from like prolific or something, you may be able to sneak by if you know the device info and install it like the standard vendors model
[03:04] <coder-bts> ok i am back
[03:04] <coder-bts> when i just pluged in
[03:05] <coder-bts> it pops: device descripter read/64, error -32
[03:06] <coder-bts> then i typed "lsusb"
[03:07] <funkadactyl> any output from lsusb?
[03:07] <coder-bts> there is one shown as: Bus 001 Device 007: ID 17e9:03c1 Displaylink
[03:07] <coder-bts> so it means it could read displaylink
[03:08] <knenom> I have a tp-link router with hacked firmware, someone has installed his firmware which is irrelevant to the company's
[03:08] <knenom> I am having a hard time restoring it back to normal. anyone had this problem before?
[03:08] <cfhowlett> knenom, check your channel.  this is ubuntu support not hardware support
[03:08] <knenom> cfhowlett, I am trying to restore it using ubuntu
[03:09] <coder-bts> funkadactyl: what should i do
[03:09] <coder-bts> i m sure my monitor supports VGA well
[03:09] <g3> Thoughts? aufs au_opts_verify:1612:dockerd[1870]: dirperm1 breaks the protection by the permission bits on the lower branch
[03:10] <chamar> Hi folks, is there a tool or setting somewhere to enable a snap to window (ie: when moving a window toward another one, it will "snap" to it)
[03:11] <coder-bts> Hi?
[03:12] <g3> hi?
[03:12] <Sean_McG> g3: you probably want Docker support
[03:12] <cfhowlett> !patience | coder-bts g3
[03:12] <coder-bts> I m confusing now with my USB-VGA adapter
[03:12] <coder-bts> thx :)
[03:12] <g3> (don't feel ignored, this is the internet. Thanks though!)
[03:12] <funkadactyl> coder-bts - give me just a moment, my internet is being sooper weird right now
[03:12] <coder-bts> thx to all :)
[03:12] <coder-bts> funkadactyl: ok :)
[03:14] <funkadactyl> how attached to an open source solution to this are you coder-bts?
[03:14] <amicrawler2017> can any body help with this issue
[03:14] <coder-bts> well.. ya..
[03:15] <coder-bts> i should turn it to a open source project
[03:15] <amicrawler2017> ever senc i got this computer on ubunut 16.04
[03:15] <amicrawler2017> the audio skips on streaming
[03:15] <amicrawler2017> it is a i3
[03:15] <amicrawler2017> and has 8GB ram
[03:15] <amicrawler2017> using 0% swap
[03:16] <amicrawler2017> not sure why it not using swap
[03:16] <funkadactyl> I am not personally an open source purist if I need something to work and there isn't an open source solution, but I don't want to offend anyone here with a proprietary video driver
[03:16] <Sean_McG> you probably aren't using more than 8GB of stuff
[03:16] <amicrawler2017> i have 7GB free
[03:17] <Sean_McG> I have 16GB with 15 free :)
[03:17] <amicrawler2017> ok thats not helping
[03:17] <Sean_McG> sorry.
[03:17] <Sean_McG> Are you using onboard audio?
[03:17] <amicrawler2017> the app im using it pithos
[03:17] <amicrawler2017> no
[03:18] <amicrawler2017> my usb sb
[03:18] <Sean_McG> OK.
[03:18] <Sean_McG> does it only skip in 1 app?
[03:18] <funkadactyl> did you use full disk encryption amicrawler2017? for some reason I remember the swap being an image file in the encrypted volume as opposed to an actual partition with FDE
[03:18] <coder-bts> well, i should go on github and then start a new reposity
[03:18] <amicrawler2017> not sure have not tried
[03:19] <amicrawler2017> is there any other audio straming app i can get in ubunt
[03:19] <amicrawler2017> its under pandora
[03:19] <Sean_McG> amicrawler2017: OK since you mentioned it is a USB sound device, I wonder if it is having contention issues on the same USB bus that device is on. Maybe try connecting it do a different USB port?
[03:20] <funkadactyl> anyhow, coder-bts, on the vendors website for your adapter there is an ubuntu driver that claims to work with ubuntu 14.x onward
[03:20] <Sean_McG> s/do/to/
[03:20] <amicrawler2017> the ports i have is all usb 2.1`
[03:20] <Sean_McG> is the sound device 2.1 or 3.0?
[03:21] <amicrawler2017> it is model sb0270
[03:21] <Sean_McG> I don't know SB hardware.
[03:21] <amicrawler2017> ok changed ports
[03:22] <amicrawler2017> same thing
[03:22] <amicrawler2017> skips
[03:22] <amicrawler2017> my bandwith is 100down
[03:22] <amicrawler2017> and 15up
[03:22] <coder-bts> funkadactyl: true, but i am with 16.10
[03:22] <cfhowlett> amicrawler2017, https://www.spotify.com/jp/download/linux/
[03:22] <Sean_McG> it is still possible it has contention issues on that other port I suppose.
[03:22] <amicrawler2017> or 13.5MBps
[03:22] <Sean_McG> but yeah maybe verify with the Spotify client as well
[03:23] <funkadactyl> it should work with that as well coder-bts, it looks like it was just updated in september of 2016 though so maybe there is an issue with 16.10
[03:24] <Sean_McG> cute little audio device though
[03:24] <funkadactyl> amicrawler2017: does it skip on all audio or just pandora?
[03:24] <amicrawler2017> pandora
[03:24] <coder-bts> funkadactyl: i've tried that one and it didn't work :(
[03:25] <amicrawler2017> on the songs when switching tasks
[03:25] <coder-bts> and 16.10 is working with unity8
[03:25] <coder-bts> maybe it is the main point?
[03:25] <Sean_McG> I didn't realize there was a Linux version of the Spotify client. Going to install it myself as well.
[03:25] <funkadactyl> amicrawler2017 what web browser are you using to stream pandora with?
[03:25] <amicrawler2017> im not
[03:26] <funkadactyl> and also, what happens if you play a local audio file like an mp3?
[03:26] <amicrawler2017> using a client
[03:26] <amicrawler2017> https://pithos.github.io/
[03:26] <funkadactyl> hmm, i see, the real question is if it's the app or the device
[03:27] <funkadactyl> or if the device is using flash it could be that, whatever the case we should narrow this down
[03:29] <funkadactyl> sorry coder-bts, wish I had a solution, one thing you may want to try, as long as the usb cable isn't built in to the device, is a new cable, the error you were getting will happen if there is a bad connection
[03:33] <Sean_McG> hopefully it isn't that, I think he said the device was brand new
[03:35] <funkadactyl> it may not be a bad device, could work fine under other os's, there may be something else that needs to be done in ubuntu, honestly leaning more towards flash being the problem
[03:36] <Sean_McG> never confirmed if another app had skipping issues
[03:36] <funkadactyl> I would like to know if it plays audio files stored on the HDD fine, that would indicate it is either pithos or flash
[03:37] <funkadactyl> if they all stutter I would lean more towards the hardware and maybe try it on another system to see if it has skipping issues, any os on another machine should be fine, either way it will yield a result
[03:47] <funkadactyl> Sean_McG: do you think I scared him away? I always run into this problem here where everyone else's issue is more interesting than my own
[03:47] <Sean_McG> I try not to make assumptions like that when I am online.
[03:50] <vh3lox> Hello
[03:50] <funkadactyl> By that I mean I get more invested in solving the puzzle for other people than finding a solution for my own problem
[03:50] <vh3lox> sounds about right
[03:51] <kremlon> ill abduct you and i will force you to lick putin's butt hole
[03:51] <kremlon> you will like his anus
[03:51] <vh3lox> yay :D
[03:51]  * Sean_McG facedesks
[03:51] <kremlon> puchka
[03:52] <funkadactyl> hello vh3lox, what's happening?
[03:52] <kremlon> his shit is very tasty
[03:52] <kremlon> you will die for mother rusnia
[03:52] <kremlon> suicide style
[03:52] <vh3lox> Not much
[03:52] <funkadactyl> ^is that allowed?
[03:52] <kremlon> i force you to commit sucide
[03:52] <chu> kremlon: Please not in hee.
[03:52] <cfhowlett> kremlon, stop it
[03:52] <Sean_McG> no, we actually need an op to get rid of him
[03:53] <cfhowlett> !ops | kremlon
[03:53] <vh3lox> troll
[03:53] <Sean_McG> indeed.
[03:54] <kremlon> i will rip out your pubes
[03:54] <kremlon> suck my retards penis
[03:54] <cfhowlett> ban requested, dax
[03:55] <vh3lox> I think it is a bot
[03:55] <cfhowlett> gone now. let's move on.
[03:55] <vh3lox> trolling irc
[03:55] <funkadactyl> do people even try to troll anymore?
[03:55] <vh3lox> its kind of outdated, don't see it much anymore
[03:56] <funkadactyl> at least more subtle than whatever that was
[03:56] <vh3lox> true
[03:56] <vh3lox> I think people have learned to deal with it
[03:56] <sgo11> what's wrong with US network? I can not access google.com and facebook.com. but I can access youtube.com and twitter.com. Do anyone have the same issue? thanks.
[03:57] <Sean_McG> sgo11: tried using traceroute?
[03:57] <cfhowlett> sgo11, just you.  check your country restrictions
[03:57] <sgo11> cfhowlett, I am using US vpn.
[03:57] <cfhowlett> from china?
[03:57] <funkadactyl> sgoll: DNS issues maybe?
[03:57] <vh3lox> could try a proxie
[03:58] <sgo11> cfhowlett, yeah. never met such issue before. never ever.
[03:58] <Sean_McG> they must've beefed up the Great Firewall
[03:58] <sgo11> cfhowlett, ping www.google.com from my vpn server (US server) even failed.
[03:59] <sgo11> through ssh.
[03:59] <cfhowlett> sgo11, well if you're in China, be aware that the government's anti vpn efforts are becoming increasingly sophisticated and effective. Special targets: VPN's.
[04:00] <sgo11> cfhowlett, I tried to ping www.google.com in US server's ssh session and it failed. this does not make sense. this proves it's not an issue in my country then.
[04:00] <cfhowlett> I beg to differ.  DNS rerouting has LONG been in the arsenal of the Great Firewall.
[04:01] <funkadactyl> cfhowlett in his defense that would still ping from ssh on his vpn regardless of the Great Firewall
[04:01] <Bray90820> So i'm having a very very strange issue with ubuntu 16.04 I ended up having two directories with the same name /media/data/Videos and /media/data/videos nice one has a capital V on videos and the other one doesn't  the original one is the one with the capital
[04:01] <Bray90820> It all happened when my DVR recording software which is plex recorded some stuff
[04:01] <vh3lox> Are you saying you are using ssh into a server into the US?
[04:02] <sgo11> funkadactyl, you are right. :)
[04:03] <funkadactyl> yeah, is the ip of the server your ssh'd into local or is it definitely the VPN you are dialing into using their public ip and port?
[04:03] <sgo11> funkadactyl, yeah.
[04:03] <vh3lox> In that case you are trying to proxie to facebook
[04:03] <funkadactyl> Bray90820, as far as ubuntu is concerned that capital letter makes them two different file names
[04:04] <Bray90820> Ok that makes sense
[04:04] <funkadactyl> Bray90820: Are both of those folders supposed to be for the same device
[04:04] <vh3lox> That server may be restricted from those sites also. Many organizations have blocked facebook and other sites for security reasons.
[04:04] <Bray90820> funkadactyl: what do you mean
[04:05] <Bray90820> Also one seems to be a clone of the other
[04:06] <vh3lox> Bray90820 what is exactly the issue? Remember *UNIX base operating systems are case sensitive.
[04:06] <funkadactyl> Bray90820: did something change with the DVR where it was accessing one folder, maybe an update changed a letter to a capitol and now you have two?
[04:08] <funkadactyl> sgoll: is this a vpn service, or are you using a server you own from US communications to host your own VPN with your own static IP?
[04:08] <Bray90820> funkadactyl: Nothing that I can think of
[04:08] <Bray90820> But it looks like the folder was clones files and all even files that art part of plex
[04:09] <funkadactyl> Bray90820: if you look at the details of each video directory are they the same size?
[04:09] <Bray90820> The only think that is different are the recordings are going into the new folder
[04:10] <Bray90820> Well I take that back
[04:10] <Bray90820> There the same when looking at it on OS X through samba but when using ubuntu the only thing in the new folder are the recordings
[04:10] <Sean_McG> SMB is case-insensitive
[04:11] <Sean_McG> \\SERVER\SHARE is the same as \\server\share
[04:11] <funkadactyl> yeah but mac os is still unix based, should still follow the same rules
[04:12] <amicrawler2017> funkadacty
[04:12] <funkadactyl> Hmm, wait, Bray90820, are there two folders when you look at the media directory locally?
[04:12] <amicrawler2017> what is it your after ?
[04:12] <amicrawler2017> im a mac user linux unix and windwos and amiga user
[04:13] <Bray90820> amicrawler2017: Figuring out where the new folder came from
[04:13] <funkadactyl> It could be a sharing name issue, had the same problem on my mac where the sharing name of the directory was different than the directory name
[04:13] <amicrawler2017> is it a hardlink or soft ?
[04:13] <Bray90820> neither
[04:13] <amicrawler2017> when in the term are you able to see it therer
[04:14] <amicrawler2017> or when you right click
[04:14] <Bray90820> amicrawler2017: I don't even know what your talking about anymore
[04:14] <amicrawler2017> and check prop
[04:14] <Sean_McG> http://internethealthreport.com/ says there is currently a fair amount of packet loss between Level3 and CenturyLink
[04:14] <Bray90820> funkadactyl: Is on the right track so I'll let him deal with it
[04:14] <amicrawler2017> does it show were the file is located
[04:14] <amicrawler2017> is the folder called untiled ?
[04:15] <Bray90820> amicrawler2017: I'll let funkadactyl continue
[04:16] <amicrawler2017> funk mac os does not follow the same rules
[04:16] <amicrawler2017> file size yes
[04:17] <amicrawler2017> if you right click on a application its a pkg
[04:17] <funkadactyl> Bray90820: if you right click on the shared folder in ubuntu and view the share name, is it different than the file name?
[04:18] <amicrawler2017> oh they might be seeing hidden folders
[04:18] <funkadactyl> root syntax is the same between both as far as capitalization
[04:18] <edgardanaya> how can I make Sound Work
[04:18] <Bray90820> funkadactyl: They are both the same
[04:18] <amicrawler2017> what card >
[04:18] <funkadactyl> are you viewing this over the network or on the machine itself Bray90820?
[04:20] <edgardanaya> standard Mac Book Pro Card!!!!
[04:20] <amicrawler2017> ok
[04:20] <amicrawler2017> ppc or intel ?
[04:20] <Sean_McG> MBP would be an Intel
[04:20] <amicrawler2017> g4 g5 intell
[04:20] <edgardanaya> ?
[04:20] <amicrawler2017> is sound not working at all
[04:21] <Bray90820> The Machine itself
[04:21] <amicrawler2017> check in system prefs
[04:21] <countingdaisies> How come I can run an apache2 command that doesn't exist and have it spit out output?
[04:21] <Bray90820> funkadactyl:
[04:21] <edgardanaya> Nope
[04:21] <countingdaisies> Is that a security risk? Should I uninstall?
[04:21] <amicrawler2017> edgardanaya: check system prefs
[04:21] <amicrawler2017> then about this mac
[04:21] <amicrawler2017> and info
[04:21] <funkadactyl> And there are definitely two video directories with one capitalized when viewing on the machine itself?
[04:21] <Sean_McG> Ubuntu has a catch all for commands that don't exist, it reports back if you need to install a package
[04:22] <edgardanaya> Did Already!!!!
[04:22] <amicrawler2017> and tell if the card is working from there
[04:22] <amicrawler2017> ok
[04:22] <amicrawler2017> did you reset the pram ?
[04:22] <Sean_McG> a few less exclamation marks would be nice
[04:22] <edgardanaya> Yes Reset
[04:22] <Bray90820> funkadactyl: Correct
[04:22] <amicrawler2017> did you try the keyborad comands
[04:22] <edgardanaya> no
[04:22] <funkadactyl> and you see them both over the network when viewing on the Mac, correct?
[04:22] <amicrawler2017> on the top
[04:23] <amicrawler2017> f11 let me log in to my mac
[04:23] <Bray90820> Correct
[04:23] <Bray90820> But different subfolders and folder sizes
[04:24] <funkadactyl> I mean, the sharing is definitely working as designed, I would look at the DVR software to view the save directory
[04:24] <funkadactyl> Is this for a CCTV?
[04:24] <Bray90820> Nope
[04:24] <Bray90820> It's for cable TV
[04:25] <funkadactyl> Okay, had to clarify because with a CCTV it would be the way it separates a continuous feed between HDD's
[04:25] <Bray90820> Alright
[04:26] <funkadactyl> On the ubuntu machine are you running the DVR software direct or are you just saving the shows to the ubuntu machine?
[04:26] <Bray90820> I recorded stuff earlier today an a different directory and it recorded fine
[04:26] <Bray90820> I am running it direct
[04:26] <stan_man_can> Gotta re-install, systems acting funny, should I go for 16.04 or 16.10? just my desktop machine
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> !lts | stan_man_can
[04:26] <Bray90820> The recording software is direct the tuner is connected to my router tho
[04:27] <funkadactyl> okay, so its not being streamed over the network to the DVR just from the DVR to your mac
[04:27] <Bray90820> funkadactyl: The recording software is direct the tuner is connected to my router tho
[04:27] <Guest21973> hi
[04:27] <stan_man_can> lotuspsychje, i know that
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> stan_man_can: if you choose non-lts support is not so long
[04:27] <funkadactyl> That could be part of it, are you able to dial into your router and see if it has a save directory set for recordings?
[04:27] <funkadactyl> NVM scratch that
[04:28] <Sean_McG> my recommendation would be to try LTS unless there is really something you need that is more current in 16.10
[04:28] <stan_man_can> lotuspsychje, i guess the question is more, is 16.10 worth the lack of LTS?
[04:28] <funkadactyl> What are you using for the recording software?
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> stan_man_can: can you explain 'the lack of LTS' ?
[04:28] <Bray90820> funkadactyl: Plex for recording software and HdHomerun prime for tuner
[04:29] <funkadactyl> When you set a custom directory in flex does it create a new folder automatically with the subfolders?
[04:29] <stan_man_can> lotuspsychje, ....
[04:29] <funkadactyl> plex*
[04:29] <cfhowlett> stan_man_can, if you *need* the latest, greatest shiny OS, 16.10.  If you want a plug and play, well maintained and polished OS with minimal maintenance required, LTS
[04:29] <funkadactyl> Autocorrect in chat is a pita
[04:30] <stan_man_can> cfhowlett, alrighty that's  bit more clear thanks.
[04:30] <funkadactyl> xchat*
[04:30] <cfhowlett> happy2help! stan_man_can
[04:30] <Bray90820> funkadactyl: Yes Plex
[04:31] <Bray90820> funkadactyl: No you need to choose a folder that already exists
[04:31] <funkadactyl> Can you see what folder it is set to?
[04:31] <funkadactyl> Capitol V or lowercase v?
[04:32] <Bray90820> See what folder my recording are set to record to?
[04:32] <cfhowlett> funkadactyl, xchat has been dead and unsupported for years.  purge it and install hexchat
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> !xchat | funkadactyl
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: your too fast :p
[04:32] <cfhowlett> great minds ...
[04:32]  * Sean_McG is still using irssi 
[04:33] <funkadactyl> Meh, I use IRC every so often then get sucked into the IRC Hole, I'll check out Hex though
[04:33] <Bray90820> funkadactyl: It looks like it was a typo on my end it was set to a lowercase v
[04:33] <Bray90820> Thanks for the help that clears everything up
[04:34] <funkadactyl> I would say you could merge the two folders and have all of your recordings own the same place, then unsure and delete the folder that isn't being used to consolidate
[04:34] <funkadactyl> No problem, Glad i was able to help
[04:34] <rodney77> Hello, I am running normal ubuntu on a convertable laptop that has a touchscreen and no touchpad. I'm trying to replicate right-click, middle-click, click-drag and mousewheel functionality on my touchscreen and I'm wondering how to do this
[04:35] <funkadactyl> Also, I know this is an ubuntu forum, I just run a server, I'm on IRC with my Mac, does hex chat support mac?
[04:35] <rodney77> oh, i should mention that I always use my keyboard. so i'm fine with hotkeys. I'm just ditching the mouse
[04:36]  * cfhowlett readies a mighty smack for asking such an obviously OT query
[04:36] <dax> funkadactyl: it's in homebrew
[04:36] <Bray90820> funkadactyl: look at the bottom - https://hexchat.github.io/downloads.html
[04:36] <funkadactyl> sounds good, I'm on it
[04:37] <Bray90820> personally I prefer an app called limechat which is what I am currently on
[04:38] <funkadactyl> The thing I like about xchat is that I hate change and I'm familiar with it
[04:38] <cfhowlett> funkadactyl, hexchat is very much a fork of same.  you'll be right at home
[04:39] <funkadactyl> The thing I hate about xchat is xchat itself however so it's probably time to switch over
[04:40] <funkadactyl> I also need to find something for my android, when I try to connect here on the cellular network i'm banned unless I use ssl
[04:40] <Bray90820> Try Android IRC
[04:40] <Bray90820> That's what I use and it's not bad
[04:41] <funkadactyl> Is that official name AndroIRC?
[04:42] <Bray90820> Yes my bad
[04:42] <Bray90820> Sorry
[04:43] <funkadactyl> That's what I'm using, I think its the IP address I'm assigned from the tower near work. Someone probably did some sketchy ball licking activity with it on free node and got banned like kremlon from earlier
[04:44] <funkadactyl> My Ip changes between there and home I assume due to the way cellular networks handle their leasing and assignments
[04:44] <cmosguy> hey all, I am usin Xfce on a remote machine, and I am Remote Desktop(ing) into it from Windows.  I cannot figure out how to enable "Two Finger Scrolling".  Can anyone help?
[04:44] <cmosguy> BTW, I am using Ubuntu Xenial
[04:44] <funkadactyl> Are you using remote desktop from windows?
[04:45] <funkadactyl> Like the built in?
[04:45] <turej> how can i know if i have enough space to create a 45gb partition
[04:46] <wedgie> turej: you probably want to use gparted
[04:47] <turej> wedgie: how can i find out using that
[04:47] <LambdaComplex> Are there any notable differences between the backport systems in Ubuntu and Debian?
[04:47] <Bray90820> funkadactyl: you should just spoof your IP
[04:47] <cfhowlett> !debian | LambdaComplex
[04:47] <wedgie> turej: it's a graphical tool. Should show pretty clearly how much free space is on the disk
[04:47] <LambdaComplex> cfhowlett: ...Did you even read my question?
[04:47] <LambdaComplex> Because that definitely doesn't answer it
[04:47] <cmosguy> funkadactyl: I am using remote desktop from Windows
[04:48] <turej> wedgie: yeah there's about 135gb available, how can i take 45gb of that
[04:48] <funkadactyl> I'm not sure if the input translation from Microsofts Remote Desktop supports two finger scrolling, which is surprising since it supports serial port replication and such
[04:48] <funkadactyl> what happens if you use VNC instead?
[04:49] <cmosguy> funkadactyl: you know I have not tried VNC
[04:49] <cmosguy> I thought the RDP would be better
[04:49] <wedgie> turej: http://gparted.org/display-doc.php?name=help-manual#gparted-create-new-partition I'm about to drive home, bu tthe docs should be fairly easy to follow
[04:49] <cmosguy> what kind of VNC client for windows should I download, because a lot of them suck
[04:49] <amicrawler2017> chicken vnc
[04:49] <funkadactyl> Just to cover bases cmosguy, you checked the input settings in ubuntu to make sure it's enabled, correct?
[04:50] <turej> wedgie, im not sure if we'll be able to continue our discussion
[04:50] <turej> they don't serve internet in the orphanage
[04:50] <funkadactyl> UltraVNC is what I'm used to, it can be a cantankerous pita though
[04:50] <turej> jokes aside, wedgie, thanks for that valuable link
[04:50] <turej> :)
[04:51] <wedgie> turej: np. good luck
[04:51] <amicrawler2017> mac book pro perosn here is your fix for your sound card
[04:51] <amicrawler2017>     Shut down the computer.
[04:51] <funkadactyl> http://www.uvnc.com/downloads.html cmosguy
[04:51] <amicrawler2017>     Press the power button.
[04:51] <amicrawler2017>     Before the grey screen appears, press the Command, Option, P, and R keys at the same time.
[04:51] <amicrawler2017>     Hold the keys until your computer restarts and you hear the startup sound a second time.
[04:51] <amicrawler2017>     Release the keys.
[04:52] <cmosguy> funkadactyl: does the two finger scrolling come with Xorg or through the RDP?
[04:53] <cmosguy> why would vnc be any different?
[04:53] <funkadactyl> Well, possibly both
[04:53] <funkadactyl> Some handle visual effects better than others, but that is more on the host side
[04:54] <funkadactyl> Oh, you mean between that and RDP cmosguy correct?
[04:54] <amicrawler2017> or you can do it the ugly way
[04:54] <funkadactyl> I don't think the windows RDP client supports two finger scrolling
[04:54] <cmosguy> funkadactyl: yes between RDP
[04:54] <amicrawler2017> udo kextunload /System/Library/Extensions/AppleHDA.kext
[04:54] <amicrawler2017> sudo kextload /System/Library/Extensions/AppleHDA.kext
[04:55] <cmosguy> funkadactyl: yes it, it works fine when connecting to other windows machines
[04:55] <amicrawler2017> But if you want to kill your coreaudio as well,
[04:55] <amicrawler2017> ps aux | grep 'coreaudio[d]' | awk '{print $2}' | xargs sudo kill
[04:55] <funkadactyl> There probably are third party rep clients that support it but I am fairly positive two finger scrolling doesn't work through the windows RDP client, at least not cross platform
[04:55] <amicrawler2017> but this is a very ugly way of doing things
[04:56] <funkadactyl> Also, what is dice running on, a tower
[04:56] <funkadactyl> xfce*
[04:56] <amicrawler2017> oh thats is a vey lite gui
[04:57] <amicrawler2017> the other fix is settings sound and check the right output
[04:57] <dysfigured> does ubuntu have a backports repo? or do I have to use PPAs?
[04:58] <amicrawler2017> hope that helps
[04:59] <dysfigured> amicrawler2017: holy hell dude, that's the most ugliest hack i've ever seen. you can do that same thing with just plain `pkill coreaudio` dude
[04:59] <amicrawler2017> it is very ugly
[05:00] <cfhowlett> !backports | dysfigured
[05:00] <amicrawler2017> dont like it
[05:00] <dysfigured> amicrawler2017: also, there's never any need to `grep foo | awk { statement }`, that's silly. just use `awk '/foo/{ statement }`
[05:00] <amicrawler2017> found it off this site http://superuser.com/questions/647396/reload-mac-audio-drivers-without-rebooting
[05:01] <dysfigured> yeah that's dumb. if you want to kill a process by it's name instead of it's pid, just use pkill
[05:01] <amicrawler2017> yep
[05:02] <amicrawler2017> i have not had this issue
[05:02] <amicrawler2017> with my mac
[05:02] <amicrawler2017> normaly just pkill
[05:02] <amicrawler2017> i have mac
[05:03] <amicrawler2017> but my main box is linux
[05:03] <amicrawler2017> dont like mac that much
[05:03] <amicrawler2017> they dont fallow the rules
[05:03] <amicrawler2017> of standards
[05:05] <amicrawler2017> oh by the way the app pithos was the issue audio
[05:05] <Sean_McG> amicrawler2017: ah, good to know. we were curious
[05:05] <amicrawler2017> spot works just fine under load
[05:06] <Sean_McG> funkadactyl's theory was that it was something to do with flash.
[05:06] <funkadactyl> I thought so, does spotify use flash?
[05:06] <amicrawler2017> i dl the client
[05:06] <amicrawler2017> for linux
[05:06] <funkadactyl> yeah is the client for spotify flash based like pithos?
[05:07] <amicrawler2017> i think html5
[05:08] <amicrawler2017> does not say
[05:09] <funkadactyl> Pithos may appreciate the input, what happens if you run pandora over flash in firefox vs html5 in chrome?
[05:10] <amicrawler2017> looks like html5
[05:10] <gpsingh159> hi
[05:10] <funkadactyl> for spotify?
[05:11] <amicrawler2017> htlm
[05:11] <funkadactyl> I apologize for my apparent confusion, it's midnight where I am and I woke up at 4am the previous day
[05:11] <funkadactyl> probably like 4 beers deep at this point too
[05:12] <countingdaisies> If something will work for ubuntu 14.04 does that generally mean that it should work for 16.04?
[05:12] <cfhowlett> countingdaisies, of course not.
[05:12] <Sean_McG> not necessarily
[05:12] <amicrawler2017> what every body is saying java and html
[05:12] <cfhowlett> different versions, different issues
[05:12]  * Sean_McG wrote notes of all the things that broke when he upgraded
[05:12] <Bashing-om> countingdaisies: depends
[05:12] <funkadactyl> okay for spotify, not pithos, correct?
[05:12] <cfhowlett> note that 14.04 is supported for a few more years
[05:13] <countingdaisies> major changes from previous versions?
[05:13] <countingdaisies> I think I have to install an apache module an I never done it before
[05:13] <cfhowlett> countingdaisies, yes/no/it depends    vague questions >>> vague answers
[05:13] <funkadactyl> I assumed flash was part of the issue because it's become an unruly monster
[05:14] <countingdaisies> cfhowlett: yeah
[05:14] <countingdaisies> its cool
[05:14] <funkadactyl> They also don't give a crap about linux anymore
[05:14] <Bashing-om> countingdaisies: Well , yes . As the initiate system and service manager in 14.04 is upstart .. and 16.04 is systemd .
[05:14] <countingdaisies> funkadactyl: who does?
[05:14] <cfhowlett> !apache | countingdaisies
[05:14] <funkadactyl> adobe
[05:14] <Sean_McG> I think Adobe doesn't even care about Flash much anymore -- the updates are usually to plug security vulnerabilities
[05:14] <kk4ewt> flash is dead
[05:15] <cfhowlett> funkadactyl, adobe has *never* cared much about linux.  deal with it and let's all move on.
[05:15] <countingdaisies> Bashing-om: I'm screwed. There seems to be no instructional specific to my need then and I can't figure it out on my own
[05:15] <funkadactyl> Seems to be the norm for any mainstream proprietary patented software
[05:17] <countingdaisies> right?
[05:17] <snapfractalpop> anyone here running brave browser from source?
[05:18] <Bashing-om> countingdaisies: I do not run apache, so not much help, cfhowlett pointed you to the docs .
[05:18] <cfhowlett> snapfractalpop, avoid "anyone ..." questions.  state YOUR issues and problems
[05:18] <snapfractalpop> cfhowlett: ok, sorry I just realised this is support for ubuntu.. so likely not relevant here
[05:19] <cfhowlett> snapfractalpop, :)  fair enough
[05:19] <countingdaisies> cfhowlett: thx
[05:19] <cfhowlett> happy2help! countingdaisies
[05:30] <yourname3> :quit
[05:42] <countingdaisies> This person in a tutorial has us placing the contents of a php application in /var/www/html   and extracting/leaving it there. Can it be located alsewhere and a put a link to it in /var/www/html  ?
[05:44] <Sean_McG> probably, but Apache can and often is configured to not follow symbolic links as it can be a security issue
[05:45] <countingdaisies> Sean_McG: So that's normal? To extract a package to /var/www/html  ?
[05:46] <Sean_McG> if you are expecting it to be at the root of your webserver, yes
[05:50] <countingdaisies> Sean_McG: I have other apps of that type to install also. I'm just learning and I end up getting swamped in the details and never getting anything accomplished. I know I had (several) applications installed once years back and the setup was :  localhost/application-name-01   localhost/application-name-02   and so on. I just don't recall what that was to look for it again.
[05:50] <Sean_McG> countingdaisies: configuring webservers is not easy
[05:51] <countingdaisies> apparently
[06:00] <dax> countingdaisies: assuming Apache, an Alias line and then a <Directory> block works fine for that
[06:00] <dax> e.g. third blockquote in https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_alias.html#alias
[06:02] <dax> (depending on Ubuntu and thus Apache version, you might need to use Order and Allow directives instead of Require inside <Directory>, I forget which version changed that)
[06:21] <user_> hi there. anybody ever tried to run php 7.0 on ubuntu 12.04?
[06:27] <coder-bts> hi
[07:05] <shabaan> hii
[07:17] <nils_> sup
[07:27] <Apachez> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.8.0-34-generic
[07:27] <Apachez> W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_guc_ver9_14.bin for module i915
[07:27] <Apachez> W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/bxt_guc_ver8_7.bin for module i915
[07:30] <kbob> Apachez: same here but not a prob at all ...
[07:35] <someboy> Can we use operator mono fonts in ubuntu?
[07:36] <cfhowlett> someboy, ?  are you asking about licenses or capability?
[07:36] <someboy> cfhowlett: capability
[07:36] <someboy> if I don't have a macbook
[07:37] <cfhowlett> someboy, possibly.  I take it operator mono are mac fonts?
[07:37] <someboy> cfhowlett: http://www.typography.com/blog/introducing-operator
[07:37] <cfhowlett> someboy, reading ...
[07:38] <someboy> thank you
[07:40] <cfhowlett> someboy, I'd say yes, but I notice that this is a paid font.  SERIOUSLY?!  Thousands of free fonts are available, so you might wish to save those dollars.  google "operator font ubuntu" for some suggestions
[07:44] <someboy> cfhowlett: hmmm
[07:44] <someboy> I wonder the alternatives would work for vim
[07:44] <cfhowlett> easy enough to test.  free to test, too.
[07:49] <rajivmars> what is the difference between ubuntu 16.04 and ubuntu 16.10?
[07:49] <cfhowlett> rajivmars, 1.  read the release notes for such details.  2.  most significant: 16.10 is NOT long term support so will only be active for 9 months
[07:50] <rajivmars> cfhowlett: which one provides latest upgrades?
[07:50] <cfhowlett> !latest | rajivmars
[07:51] <cfhowlett> 16.10
[07:51] <rajivmars> ok. thanks:)
[07:53] <CRAIGSOLENIS> CIRCUMCISION: A RABBI'S SON SPEAKS OUT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erm5xHO3o7s
[07:54] <cfhowlett> CRAIGSOLENIS, stop spamming our channel with off-topic contnet
[07:55] <CRAIGSOLENIS> cfhowlett, Norm Cohen is a rabbi's son.
[07:55] <CRAIGSOLENIS> "Such clarity, thank you Norm Cohen and all who speak out to end this atrocity."
[07:55] <cfhowlett> !ops | CRAIGSOLENIS
[08:03] <charlin> anyone?
[08:03] <cfhowlett> ask you questions, get no answers.  chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:05] <joeldking> ...
[08:30] <seprob> Hi there. I have a problem with WebSocket connection on my Ubuntu. For example: "soi@devops01:~$ wscat -c ws://echo.websocket.org -p 13
[08:30] <seprob> error: Error: unexpected server response (400)
[08:30] <seprob> ".
[08:31] <seprob> Strange is that my coworkers have the same system but they can connect.
[08:31] <seprob> Any ideas?
[08:32] <ikevin> seprob, does wscat version are the sames?
[08:32] <M4dH4TT3r2> Wow is it just me or is the latest lts very complete trash...
[08:32] <seprob> ikevin, yes but it doesn't matter which client I use.
[08:33] <ikevin> M4dH4TT3r2, it's just you
[08:33] <seprob> Always there is the same situation.
[08:33] <M4dH4TT3r2> Won't even boot after a clean install and image is fine...
[08:33] <ikevin> seprob, so, i've no idea
[08:34] <ikevin> M4dH4TT3r2, any boot error?
[08:34] <tatertots> seprob: error #400 = bad request
[08:34] <M4dH4TT3r2> No
[08:34] <ikevin> M4dH4TT3r2, do you show grub menu?
[08:34] <M4dH4TT3r2> Just stays on login screen and tells me password is wrong
[08:34] <M4dH4TT3r2> Ya
[08:34] <ikevin> M4dH4TT3r2, does keyboard layout is good?
[08:34] <M4dH4TT3r2> Ya
[08:35] <M4dH4TT3r2> Let's me login fine if I switch to console
[08:35] <ikevin> M4dH4TT3r2, use guest session and terminal to change the password
[08:35] <M4dH4TT3r2> Tried that still no go
[08:35] <minimec> M4dH4TT3r2: It is possible that you have the wrong keyboard layout in the graphical environment and some 'special keys' in your password...
[08:35] <M4dH4TT3r2> No
[08:36] <ikevin> M4dH4TT3r2, have you numbers in your password?
[08:36] <M4dH4TT3r2> Tried the password password
[08:37] <ikevin> M4dH4TT3r2, try to type "pqsszord" in the login screen
[08:38] <seprob> tatertots, I know but how can I fix it and why my coworkers can send message?
[08:39] <M4dH4TT3r2> The password is not wrong, the kbd layout is not wrong, only thing I can think of stopping it from booting is nvidia drivers
[08:40] <M4dH4TT3r2> Which incidently work fine in install env
[08:40] <minimec> M4dH4TT3r2: If you get the login screen, the xserver is up, so no problem with the nvidia driver, I guess.
[08:40] <M4dH4TT3r2> No
[08:41] <ikevin> M4dH4TT3r2, does guest session is working?
[08:41] <M4dH4TT3r2> No
[08:42] <CaptainQuirk> Hi guys ! I made a small repl for jrnl.sh based on this : https://github.com/tj/git-extras/blob/master/bin/git-repl
[08:42] <minimec> M4dH4TT3r2: Can you verify that you password is correct? <ctrl><alt>f1, then login. <alt>f7 to go back.
[08:42] <tatertots> seprob: have you compared notes with co workers to determine if their requests are identical to yours?
[08:42] <CaptainQuirk> I would like to write command history in a custom file
[08:42] <CaptainQuirk> not bash_history
[08:42] <M4dH4TT3r2> Did
[08:42] <ikevin> M4dH4TT3r2, does .xsession-errors contains error?
[08:42] <seprob> tatertots, we use the same clients and we put the same requests.
[08:42] <CaptainQuirk> I tried manipulating the HISTFILE variable in the repl script itself
[08:43] <CaptainQuirk> without success
[08:43] <minimec> CaptainQuirk: It is already a file.... 'cat .bash_history'
[08:44] <CaptainQuirk> minimec, I don't get you
[08:44] <minimec> CaptainQuirk: The command history is saved in a file called .bash_history.
[08:44] <CaptainQuirk> I think you didn't read my question correctly
[08:44] <CaptainQuirk> I want to save to a custom file
[08:45] <CaptainQuirk> I know ~/.bash_history exists
[08:45] <minimec> CaptainQuirk: 'cat .bash_history > myfile'
[08:46] <CaptainQuirk> I wrote a small repl around a command
[08:46] <M4dH4TT3r2> Hahaha my bad it doesn't say password is wrong
[08:46] <CaptainQuirk> I want the commands issued in this repl to end up in another file
[08:46] <CaptainQuirk> not copy the whole darn thing ;-)
[08:46] <M4dH4TT3r2> It just refreshes login screen after I hit enter
[08:46] <ikevin> M4dH4TT3r2, what does it said?
[08:47] <Etothetaui> I'm running lubuntu with i3 and I need help with something
[08:47] <M4dH4TT3r2> Litterally nothing the login screen just refreshes
[08:47] <ikevin> M4dH4TT3r2, and what does ~/.xsession_errors said?
[08:48] <ikevin> does your /home is mounted and have good right?
[08:48] <Etothetaui> I installed a program and it opens fine with with the default lxde but when I'm using i3 the program doesn't show up
[08:48] <Etothetaui> how do I fi that?
[08:48] <kernello> hello everyone, I got this command yesterday to convert pdf to epub; 'find /tet -type f -iname '*.pdf' | parallel ebook-convert {} {.}.epub' but it tells me 'find '/dir': no such file or directory'..
[08:49] <ikevin> kernello, maybe no /tet so /path/where/is/located/tet
[08:49] <M4dH4TT3r2> Cannot connect to bratty at :0
[08:49] <M4dH4TT3r2> Brltty
[08:51] <ikevin> M4dH4TT3r2, does your /home is imported from an old install?
[08:51] <M4dH4TT3r2> ikevin here is more detail http://paste.ubuntu.com/23832385
[08:52] <M4dH4TT3r2> No
[08:52] <minimec> CaptainQuirk: Indeed I did not read your first line... So what you want is like '$cmd >> cmd_history' right before 'eval $cmd', right?
[08:52] <ikevin> M4dH4TT3r2, have you installed nvidia driver?
[08:52] <M4dH4TT3r2> Yeah selected 3rd party durring install and connected to net
[08:52] <tatertots> seprob: are you and your coworkers in the same building, using the same network when making these requests?
[08:53] <ikevin> M4dH4TT3r2, try to uninstall it and use nouveau instead
[08:53] <Etothetaui> How do I make the program I installed show up in the list of programs in i3 (when I press Mod+D)
[08:53] <tatertots> seprob: yes or no
[08:53] <ikevin> M4dH4TT3r2, apt-get remove --purge nvidia-*
[08:53] <M4dH4TT3r2> In debian I've tried every nvidia driver ever written for this card, none work
[08:53] <ikevin> M4dH4TT3r2, nvidia's drivers are crap
[08:54] <minimec> CaptainQuirk: Oh... It might be 'echo $cmd >> cmd_history'
[08:55] <seprob> tatertots, yes we are in the sam building. I switched our Internet cables and still I get the same response.
[08:56] <tatertots> seprob: can you switch computers and log in to a different computer and test?
[08:57] <tatertots> seprob: does it work when you log into a different computer with your user account
[08:57] <tatertots> ?
[08:59] <seprob> tatertots, you mean I should log into some account on computer where it does work?
[08:59] <tatertots> seprob: no
[08:59] <kernello> ikevin, thank you, it worked with the path, but the command doesnt work anyway. the epub was created empty and with errors
[09:00] <CrazyTux> Does anybody here uses Virtual Box?
 hello, I have installed Virtual Box on Xubuntu and installed another OS inside the Virtual Box. Can I move that to another partition on the HDD?
[09:00] <ikevin> CrazyTux, yes
[09:00] <CrazyTux> Can it still run from that other location?
[09:00] <CrazyTux> ikevin, how to do that?
[09:00] <ikevin> kernello, what kind of errors?
[09:00] <ikevin> CrazyTux, you mean move the virtualbox dir?
[09:01] <CrazyTux> ikevin, yes.
[09:01] <tatertots> seprob: do all employees use the exact same operating system version and configuration? yes or no
[09:01] <ikevin> CrazyTux, you using the virtualbox gui?
[09:01] <CrazyTux> ikevin, yes. Virtual Box GUI.
[09:02] <minimec> CrazyTux: Easiest way is probably to move the 'VirtualBox VMs' folder to the other partition and make a link with the same name @ the original location.
[09:02] <ikevin> CrazyTux, go into "file" > "settings", in general tabs you have the default path
[09:02] <CrazyTux> make a link with the same name @ the original location.    What does this mean?
[09:02] <linux> Hi , I have memory flash 8GB , I used this " dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdd"  to format the flash,  But after nine hours is not over, so I closed the terminal and removed the flash , now the memory flash does not work .
[09:03] <seprob> tatertots, I think so. We use Ubuntu 14 LTS. I don't how big different is between installed packeges but it shouldn't be huge.
[09:04] <linux> ^^
[09:04] <tatertots> seprob: i'm going to ask you the same question again and give you three answers to choose from #1=yes   #2=no #3=I don't know
[09:04] <tatertots> seprob: do all employees use the exact same operating system version and configuration? yes or no or "i don't know"?
[09:04] <minimec> CrazyTux: You can follow the advice of 'ikevin'. You can set the default path for the VM's folder in the preferences of the VirtualBox GUI.
[09:04] <wedgie> linux: it'll have to be reformatted, of course. but if it doesnt eork at all then maybe it died while you were wiping it. maybe thats why it never finished after 9 hours
[09:05] <seprob> tatertots, I don't know.
[09:05] <tatertots> seprob: ok thank you,
[09:05] <minimec> CrazyTux: To create a link... 'right click' on a folder... 'Make Link'... ;)
[09:05] <CrazyTux> ikevin, minimec: you mean Default Machine Folder?
[09:06] <ikevin> CrazyTux, yes
[09:06] <tatertots> seprob: did the same person or persons install the operating system on ALL employee computers? yes or no or "i don't know"
[09:06] <minimec> CrazyTux: Exactly
[09:06] <seprob> tatertots, yes.
[09:06] <CrazyTux> ok. that's great. I just need to specify the new path. right?
[09:06] <ikevin> CrazyTux, yes
[09:06] <CrazyTux> ok. I'll do that.
[09:07] <ikevin> CrazyTux, and moving the vm you want from the old path to the new one
[09:07] <linux> wedgie Is there any solution to make this command "dd if=/dev/zero" faster ?
[09:07] <tatertots> seprob: is the person or persons who installed the operating systems on ALL company computer assets responsible for maintaining company computers? yes or no or "i don't know"
[09:07] <CrazyTux> thanks a lot guys. I was running out of space in my Home folder. Needed to transfer those Virtual Machines to other location.
[09:08] <wedgie> linux: specify a block size: bs=4M     but you dont need to overwrite the whole drive just to reformat it.
[09:08] <seprob> tatertots, yes.
[09:09] <tatertots> seprob: take your computer to the person or persons responsible for maintaining company computer assets and inform them of your problem and request that they wipe and reconfigure your computer
[09:10] <tatertots> seprob: or request they issue you a new computer
[09:10] <seprob> tatertots, finally for sure I'll do it but right now I want to fix myself.
[09:10] <tatertots> seprob: you cannot fix yourself
[09:10] <S_> wedgie this command "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1 count=1" takes 3 mins , I don't know why ?
[09:11] <tatertots> seprob: and it is not your corporate responsibility to do so
[09:11] <linux> wedgie this command "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1 count=1" takes 3 mins , I don't know why ?
[09:11] <wedgie> you probably dont want bs=1
[09:11] <kernello> ikevin, strangely the epub is empty, with '-' on the left of every line but nothing else
[09:12] <wedgie> linux: if that rakes minutes then your drive is probably broken
[09:13] <wedgie> *takes
[09:13] <linux> Is possible solving the problem by gparted ?
[09:14] <carly> heyy guys
[09:14] <carly> anyone around
[09:15] <linux> wedgie Is possible solving the problem by gparted ?
[09:15] <M4dH4TT3r2> That's also very weird...
[09:15] <Ben64> linux: no
[09:15] <Ben64> check dmesg, there might be errors
[09:15] <M4dH4TT3r2> If I encrypt disk durring install I no longer get a kbd/mos to enter sda5_crypt...
[09:16] <linux> Is there any solution?
[09:16] <tatertots> seprob: if you are getting pressure from upper management, inform them that IT department has made some form of mistake with regard to your computer (as it does not identically function as the rest)...that should get you out of some potential hot water with your boss maybe
[09:16] <Ben64> linux: get a new drive
[09:16] <linux> :(
[09:17] <M4dH4TT3r2> However ctrlaltdel still restarts
[09:18] <linux> dmesg = " [22890.448597] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 0"  , "[22890.448600] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 0, lost async page write"
[09:18] <M4dH4TT3r2> Yeah I Got That too
[09:18] <M4dH4TT3r2> On boot
[09:19] <linux> dmesg = "[ 1099.052309] usb 3-1: reset high-speed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd"
[09:19] <linux> ??
[09:20] <Ben64> linux: sounds like broken drive still
[09:22] <linux> Ok , I got it , I think there is no solution . Thank you so much all of you .
[09:22] <linux> Bye
[09:22] <linux> If I found a solution , I will write it here.
[09:26] <M4dH4TT3r2> Ya y is that screwed...
[09:27] <M4dH4TT3r2> If I encrypt drive I get no kbd/mos with either usb or ps2
[09:27] <M4dH4TT3r2> So I can't enter crypt key, however they obviously work because ctrl+alt+del still works
[09:28] <M4dH4TT3r2> Makes no sense
[09:28] <minimec> M4dH4TT3r2: I do have the same issue. I boot my system through 'recovery' I have a gtx1060... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/1530548
[09:29] <M4dH4TT3r2> Mine is amd64
[09:30] <M4dH4TT3r2> Also not running xenia but latest lts ver 16... something
[09:31] <M4dH4TT3r2> And would really really like encryption on this box
[09:32] <M4dH4TT3r2> But can't even get a working install so I can add after
[09:32] <minimec> M4dH4TT3r2: Me too. I am on 'Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l
[09:32] <M4dH4TT3r2> Ya
[09:33] <M4dH4TT3r2> Bout to try unencrypted again without 3rd party and hopefully (which I highly doubt at this point) install will work properly and I can add encryption after
[09:35] <M4dH4TT3r2> Would actually prefer debian but graphics drivers...
[09:35] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r2: could you confirm what ubuntu version you're running
[09:35] <ikonia> the graphics "drivers" in debian are the same as ubuntu
[09:35] <ikonia> if you prefer debian, use debian,
[09:35] <M4dH4TT3r2> 16 something it's the latest LTS ver
[09:35] <ikonia> 16 something is not a version
[09:35] <ikonia> 16.04 or 16.10
[09:36] <M4dH4TT3r2> I would but nvidia drivers are killing me in debian
[09:36] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r2: its the same in debian as it is in ubuntu.....
[09:36] <master> correct
[09:36] <M4dH4TT3r2> Newest LTS from getubuntu
[09:36] <M4dH4TT3r2> Sadly no, nvidia is strange that way
[09:37] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r2: it's not strange that way
[09:37] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r2: it's exactly the same - its the same xorg build the same everytthing
[09:37] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r2: do you have the livecd/your system booted at the moment
[09:38] <M4dH4TT3r2> Without using nvidia oem drivers I can't get monitor to work in deb, however in ubuntu it works
[09:38] <M4dH4TT3r2> No
[09:38] <ikonia> so thats just the default noveu config
[09:38] <M4dH4TT3r2> Can't use nvidia drivers tried them all, none work
[09:38] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r2: if you can get the version you're using it would be interesting to walk this through
[09:39] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r2: they are the same nvidia drivers....on the ssame xorg builds.....they will work
[09:39] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r2: you're trying to do FDE right ?
[09:39] <ikonia> or just partial, eg: home
[09:39] <M4dH4TT3r2> Nvidia drivers don't work at all, none of them
[09:39] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[09:39] <M4dH4TT3r2> FDE?
[09:40] <M4dH4TT3r2> Also how you been ikonia? What's it been 2yrs?
[09:40] <ikonia> full disk encyption
[09:40] <ikonia> (fde)
[09:41] <M4dH4TT3r2> Ya
[09:41] <M4dH4TT3r2> Fde
[09:41] <ikonia> out of interest, why FDE over just protecting the data (for example /home)
[09:42] <popey> ikonia: ecryptfs can go somewhat wrong with long path names now and then
[09:42] <ikonia> popey: yes
[09:42] <M4dH4TT3r2> Don't want my dev envs messed with either
[09:43] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r2: where are your dev encs stored ?
[09:43] <popey> also, CPU can help accelerate FDE
[09:43] <M4dH4TT3r2> Have lotta attacks since ts gov dev work
[09:43] <popey> if they have AES-NI instructions
[09:44] <ikonia> popey: thats interesting, so you're saying that the one time unlock of FDE can be a lighter use
[09:44] <popey> apparently, yes
[09:44] <galbron> Hello community
[09:44] <ikonia> popey: I've never heard that before, where has that come from ?
[09:44] <ikonia> I can see the value of a one time unlock over keeping a device in an unlocked state like a temp unlocked meta device
[09:45] <popey>  aesni-intel is the kernel module
[09:45] <popey> which enables it
[09:45] <galbron> I'm looking for a simple drawing program, Any suggest?
[09:45] <M4dH4TT3r2> This is a dev box so fde is prefered
[09:45] <popey> galbron: http://asciiflow.com/ :)
[09:45] <ikonia> popey: I shall take a look at this
[09:45] <ikonia> popey: have you tried it yourself ?
[09:47] <popey> ikonia: no, because at the time my laptop didn't have the capability, cpu too old
[09:47] <minimec> galbron: http://askubuntu.com/questions/36577/is-there-a-program-like-microsoft-paint
[09:47] <ikonia> popey: how annoying
[09:47] <CrazyTux> hello, I bought a new laptop this week which was pre installed with FreeDOS. I wanted to try installing Ubuntu on it. Would it be a better idea to remove FreeDOS and install new OSes or keep FreeDOS intact and install other OS in a dual boot setup?
[09:47] <popey> ikonia: grep aes /proc/cpuinfo
[09:47] <popey> will tell you if it's supported
[09:48] <CrazyTux> Would FreeDOS be of any use?
[09:48] <ikonia> popey: interesting, I'd not seen that module
[09:48] <Ben64> CrazyTux: probably not
[09:48] <ikonia> (or wasn't really aware of what it was offering)
[09:48] <galbron> Thanks popey, but I need a simple program for create a procedure, in open office, do you understand me?
[09:48] <popey> galbron: dia?
[09:48] <CrazyTux> Ben64, What is your suggestion?
[09:48] <Ben64> just install ubuntu
[09:48] <minimec> CrazyTux: Just install the new OS. You can always download a copy of freeods... http://www.freedos.org/
[09:49] <popey> or use dosbox in ubuntu if you need to play dos things
[09:49] <galbron> Ok, popey, I test and I tell you something, thanks so much
[09:49] <popey> they just put freedos on the laptop because in many territories it's not legal to ship a machine with no OS
[09:49] <popey> np galbron
[09:49] <CrazyTux> Ok. Then, I need to remove FreeDOS?
[09:49] <popey> CrazyTux: i would
[09:50] <CrazyTux> ok
[09:53] <CrazyTux> I have installed Xubuntu in a dual boot setup alongside FreeDOS. Can I delete the partitions containing FreeDOS by using GParted?
[09:53] <M4dH4TT3r2> ikonia: ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64
[09:53] <CrazyTux> I am logged in Xubuntu now.
[09:53] <popey> CrazyTux: yeah, if you boot from a live usb stick, you can delete the freedos part, and move the xubuntu part "down" the disk then expand it. (if you haven't done much, might be quicker to just nuke and install again)
[09:53] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r2: so when you try to install FDE what happens
[09:54] <M4dH4TT3r2> Everything installs fine but from first boot kbd/mos don't work at all from usb or ps2
[09:54] <ikonia> kbd/mos ?
[09:54] <ikonia> ahhh keyboard and ouse
[09:54] <ikonia> mouse
[09:54] <CrazyTux> popey, can I use Gparted to do this when logged in Xubuntu?
[09:55] <ikonia> M4dH4TT3r2: what makes you think this is related to FDE ?
[09:55] <M4dH4TT3r2> Because if I install without fde they still work at login screen
[09:57] <popey> CrazyTux: no
[10:00] <M4dH4TT3r2> Right now installing without 3rd party soft, no encryption, net con avail for updates, gonna see how this goes...
[10:00] <M4dH4TT3r2> Prob just going to hate on my graphics card
[10:01] <M4dH4TT3r2> Also auto login
[10:02] <CaptainQuirk> minimec, thanks, found my answer in #bash
[10:03] <minimec> CaptainQuirk: Cool.
[10:04] <charlin> exit
[10:04] <charlin> q
[10:05] <masterlinux7> /exit
[10:07] <s3ph__> hi guys
[10:07] <s3ph__> i need help
[10:08] <s3ph__> im facing ubuntu 15.10 problem with vmware need gcc4.9.2
[10:08] <s3ph__> not available from repo
[10:08] <Ben64> 15.10 is dead
[10:08] <s3ph__> how can i solve it? thx in advance
[10:09] <s3ph__> yes i know but there is any possibility to get gcc-4.9.2 to put in /usr/lib and then solve that problem?
[10:09] <Ben64> 15.10 lost support 6 months ago, it's not safe to use
[10:10] <DonaldTrump> hi
[10:10] <s3ph__> hi
[10:10] <s3ph__> no idea ? :(
[10:11] <Ben64> you're not listening
[10:11] <DonaldTrump> It is my day today
[10:11] <Ben64> DonaldTrump: not here
[10:11] <DonaldTrump> ubuntu user too
[10:11] <M4dH4TT3r2> Hahaha, first boot it starts to load ubuntu (like the dots screen) then just loses connection to monitor
[10:11] <s3ph__> ok thx anyway ben64
[10:12] <s3ph__> h
[10:12] <akik> s3ph__: check if you can add the toolchain-r repo which has many gcc versions
[10:12] <s3ph__> thx akik but already tried
[10:13] <M4dH4TT3r2> Gonna try real quick with deb 8.0.1 x64 again
[10:13] <s3ph__> when search for gcc4.9.2
[10:13] <s3ph__> no enties
[10:13] <Ben64> s3ph__: upgrade to a supported release and come back
[10:13] <s3ph__> thx anyway akik
[10:14] <s3ph__> yes ben my last solution seems to be to upgrade was looking to start quickly my vmware
[10:14] <s3ph__> thx to all
[10:14] <masterlinux7> np
[10:21] <s3ph__> does the upgrade from 15.10 to 16 have good chances to work without trouble ? ^^
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> s3ph__: you have been told what to do already
[10:28] <Speiros> :)
[10:29] <minimec> M4dH4TT3r2: You encounter the sme problems I had after adding that gtx1060 to my existing installation. Without encryption, you should be able to boot the system with the 'nomodeset' option @boot. With FDE I boot into recovery to be able to decrypt my HD, then i 'continue normal boot'.
[10:31] <M4dH4TT3r2> No, can't boot the sys even with nomodeset
[10:32] <minimec> M4dH4TT3r2: Oh... Then try with recovery... that should work.
[10:37] <ssc_> Hello.
[10:38] <tomreyn> minimec: try this: remove the "quiet=1" option off /etc/default/grub and do: sudo update-grub && sudo reboot
[10:39] <tomreyn> might help you get around the need to boot into recovery
[10:39] <ssc_> I have a domain registered with GoDaddy and set A record which points to the server. But when I ping it from my local machine ping works fine
[10:39] <minimec> tomreyn: Oh thx. I will try that, once i reboot the machine.
[10:39] <ssc_>  But when I ping from the same server or any other server, it says Unknown Host name
[10:40] <lpwk> probably your dns server is not working well
[10:40] <minimec> tomreyn: In fact, that is in fact an obvious solution, I should have thought of...
[10:40] <tomreyn> ssc_: DNS configuiration changes are not always instant. there is something called 'propagation' which can mean a delay before changes you make are ubiquously available.
[10:41] <minimec> tomreyn: I just have that card for a few days now, and... love it!
[10:41] <tomreyn> minimec: i'm not sure it will work, but it's worth a try.
[10:43] <minimec> tomreyn: indeed...
[10:44] <nils__> yo
[10:48] <ssc_> tomreyn: But it is happening since last 3 days
[10:51] <ssc_> Any help on this guys please?
[10:51] <akik> ssc_: check with host command what your host knows about it "host your-new-dns-entry"
[10:52] <tatertots> ssc_: does a lookup performed against your go daddy domain show accurate information? yes or no
[10:52] <gezb> soz just joined missed the question
[10:52] <akik> ssc_: if you use "host your-new-dns-entry 8.8.8.8" you will ask google's dns whether it knows about it
[10:53] <tomreyn> ssc_: hmm that's probably too long. it's not really an ubuntu issue, but since not much is going on here right now... let's see... try this: type the domain name into http://intodns.com and tell us what it reports - any errros?
[10:53] <ssc_> tomreyn: Everything is green with few blue information icons but nothing is red
[10:54] <ssc_> akik: I don't want to use google dns :(
[10:55] <akik> ssc_: just saying that that's how you can test different dns servers
[10:55] <tomreyn> ssc_: so we will need to see output of some commands. you can redact the domain name or anything else, just tell me what you redacted, and be sure to always replace the same original value with the same replacement value, ok?
[10:55] <s3ph__> found for vmware pb
[10:55] <s3ph__>     cd /usr/lib/vmware/modules/source     tar xvf vmnet.tar     cd vmnet-only     make     cd ..     tar xvf vmmon.tar     cd vmmon-only     make     cd ..     mkdir /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc     cp vmmon.o /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc/vmmon.ko     cp vmnet.o /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc/vmnet.ko     depmod -a     /etc/init.d/vmware restart     vim /usr/bin/vmware (or nano)     add before "set -e" :         export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=
[10:55] <s3ph__> ubuntu 15.10 problem with gcc 4.9.2
[10:56] <s3ph__> vmware
[10:56] <ssc_> tomreyn: domain name is tibolli.net
[10:56] <tomreyn> s3ph__: 15.10 is EOL. you need to upgrade.
[10:56] <xXEoflaOEXx> s3ph__, Upgrade to 16.04 or 16.10
[10:57] <tomreyn> he left
[10:57] <tatertots> ssc_: 139.162.20.246
[10:57] <Ben64> hey it's the same thing i told him earlier
[10:57] <xXEoflaOEXx> tomreyn, ok.
[10:57] <tatertots> ssc_: does a lookup performed against your go daddy domain show accurate information? yes or no
[10:57] <ssc_> tatertots: Yes but I am unable to ping it from different server machines
[10:57] <ssc_> tatertots: From my local machine, yes, from other machines, no
[10:58] <tatertots> ssc_: forget ping for a minute
[10:58] <tatertots> ssc_: let's focus on name resolution
[10:58] <ssc_> Okay I am with you tatertots.
[10:58] <ssc_> Please tell me what to do?
[10:59] <tatertots> ssc_: perform a lookup on each computer and record and compare the results
[10:59] <ssc_> nslookup?
[11:00] <tatertots> ssc_:  do you have pastebinit installed?
[11:00] <tatertots> ssc_: yes
[11:00] <tatertots> ssc_: perform a lookup on each computer and record and compare the results
[11:00] <ssc_> Okay I am pasting results from three different machines in pastebin and paste the link here
[11:00] <tomreyn> ssc_: the DNS configuration for this domain name looks good to me. it must be some issue on the servers where it does not resolve (or with the DNS servers they use). i'll stand back now and have tatertots take over.
[11:01] <ssc_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23832757/
[11:01] <xpl0iter> Can someone please tell me how can I forward all traffic from and to port 80 to another IP:80
[11:02] <tatertots> ssc_: looks good ...next
[11:02] <ssc_> Sorry, ignore above one. I have pasted all 3 outputs in this one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23832760/
[11:02] <lpwk> xpl0iter: do you mean nat?
[11:03] <yong_> #or2
[11:04] <nic__> xpl0iter, nc maybe?
[11:04] <tatertots> ssc_: the reason you are getting inconsistent name resolution results is because these three computer are NOT configured "identically" from a dns perspective.
[11:04] <xpl0iter> lpwk: Yeah the thing is, I am running a docker container with a webserver inside a virtualbox VM. and I have 2 afapters, one in host only mode and the other in nat
[11:04] <xpl0iter> nic__: I don't understand
[11:04] <ssc_> tatertots: Okay I understand that but if I go on the machine itself (that resolves the IP of domain), I can not lookup from there as well
[11:05] <ssc_> to the same domain
[11:05] <lpwk> xpl0iter: i use this rule to nat forward - iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethX -s X.X.X.X/X (private IP/network) -j SNAT --to 1.1.1.1 (nat ip)
[11:05] <tatertots> ssc_: which machine in the pastebin is the server #1, #2, or #3???
[11:06] <ssc_> Machine 1 is the actual machine where tibolli.net points. Machine 2 is my local machine. Machine 3 is another cloud machine with the same cloud provider where tibolli.net is hosted
[11:06] <tatertots> ssc_: wait
[11:06] <tatertots> ssc_: i just want a numerical value as an answer so let me ask again
[11:07] <tatertots> ssc_: which machine in the pastebin is the server #1, #2, or #3???
[11:07] <ssc_> #1
[11:08] <lpwk> xpl0iter: but if you want to forward it to a proxy server you could use it: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE  ; iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -s internal_network -p tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination proxy_IP:3128
[11:09] <tatertots> ssc_: is your local machine on the same LAN as machine #1? yes or no
[11:09] <ssc_> no
[11:09] <tatertots> ssc_: is your local machine on the same LAN as machine #3? yes or no
[11:10] <ssc_> no
[11:10] <ssc_> tatertots: By the way, output for machine 3 has changed
[11:10] <ssc_> For nslookup
[11:10] <ssc_> Although it's still SERVFAIL
[11:10] <ssc_> But there is some output
[11:10] <ssc_> Should I paste in pastebin?
[11:10] <tatertots> ssc_: yes
[11:11] <ssc_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23832897/
[11:11] <mbuf> A Python package is available in pip repository. Is there a tool to make a .deb package for the same?
[11:11] <JP____> My head hurts... Anyone need help?
[11:12] <JP____> mbuf, you should have python already installed on your system
[11:12] <JP____> try python --version in your terminal
[11:13] <tatertots> ssc_: is #1 and #3 on the same LAN? yes or no
[11:13] <mbuf> JP____, That is not what I asked.
[11:13] <ssc_> tatertots: I don't know but they are with the same cloud provider
[11:13] <mbuf> JP____, Should one need to manually create a .deb package or is there a tool that can convert a package available in a Pip repository into .deb?
[11:14] <tatertots> ssc_: both on the same account i'll assume
[11:14] <ssc_> tatertots: Correct
[11:14] <JP____> mbuf, pip is the package manager for python
[11:14] <tomreyn> ssc_: your problem seems to be the DNS server at 139.162.20.246 which does not work properly. is that dns server managed by linode? i assume not, based on its reverse dns.
[11:14] <JP____> it's not OS-dependent
[11:14] <tatertots> ssc_: is #1 configured with a static or dynamic ip addy?
[11:14] <JP____> *AFAIK*
[11:15] <ssc_> tatertots: Number 1 and 3 are configured with static IP
[11:15] <ssc_> tomreyn: Yes that is being managed by Linode
[11:15] <lpwk> how can i hide connect messages from anothers guests? sry for the noob question :)
[11:15] <tatertots> ssc_: if you set either of them to auto/dhcp/dynamic is it able to resolve the domain name? yes or no
[11:16] <ssc_> Currently it's set to dhcp, did not try with auto or dynamic
[11:16] <tatertots> ssc_: if you set either of them to auto/dhcp/dynamic is it able to resolve the domain name? yes or no
[11:17] <mbuf> JP____, okay
[11:17] <ssc_> tatertots: I did not understand but I guess, answer is no.
[11:17] <tatertots> ssc_: i will ask you again, this time giving you a THIRD option as a answer or response
[11:17] <tatertots> ssc_: if you set either of them to auto/dhcp/dynamic is it able to resolve the domain name? yes or no or "i don't know"
[11:17] <ssc_> I don't know
[11:18] <xpl0iter> lpwk: thanks a lot. I will try it and see.
[11:18] <Faizan> xpl0iter: oye tu ?
[11:19] <tatertots> ssc_: have either #1 or #3 EVER been set to dhcp/dynamic ip settings?
[11:19] <xpl0iter> Faizan: what? o.O
[11:19] <ssc_> tatertots: no
[11:19] <JP____> anyone else need help?
[11:20] <tatertots> ssc_: ok you dns is misconfigured on both 1 and 3
[11:20] <Speiros> JP___Are you handing out medication???
[11:20] <tatertots> ssc_: configure your dns properly and all will be well
[11:20] <ssc_> tatertots: So, how can I resolve it?
[11:20] <JP____> Speiros: depends, what do you need?
[11:20] <ssc_> tatertots: How can I configure? Do I contact with Linode?
[11:20] <tatertots> ssc_: no
[11:21] <lpwk> ssc_: can you explain again your problem? i lost it
[11:21] <tatertots> ssc_: can you access both 1 and 3 now?
[11:21] <Speiros> JP___ I don't know, but the reports are varied...:)
[11:21] <JP____> Hahaha
[11:21] <JP____> I have this headache also, bah... Should be working, but i don't think i can do much in this state
[11:21] <ssc_> tatertots: yes I can via ssh
[11:21] <JP____> So might as well help noobs
[11:21] <tatertots> ssc_: good
[11:21] <Speiros> JP____ Yeah, always good to help mate:)
[11:22] <JP____> But nobody needs help :p
[11:22] <Speiros> JP____ True, at present at least.
[11:22] <ssc_> tatertots: I have tried 4 and 5th machine as well and nslookup did not work from those 2 machines to tibolli.net as well :(
[11:22] <JP____> Speiros, what do you do?
[11:22] <JP____> Do you have a super-awesome job?
[11:22] <ssc_> With the same error as from machine 1 and 3
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> !ot | JP____
[11:23] <Speiros> JP____ No man.  Just a manufacturer of stuff.  Nothing fantastic, but pays the bills.
[11:23] <tatertots> ssc_:  not a big deal about that new machines, because now you know that dns simply isn't configured properly
[11:23] <JP____> lotuspsychje: dank je wel
[11:23] <ssc_> tatertots: Okay, so help me resolve it please
[11:24] <tatertots> ssc_: ok pick a machine you would like to work on first..your choice ..i don't care which one we work on first
[11:24] <JP____> Speiros: dude ask me something about ubuntu
[11:24] <popey> JP____: please stop
[11:24] <tatertots> ssc_: just tell me the #
[11:24] <ssc_> #1
[11:24] <tatertots> ssc_: 1,2 or 3
[11:24] <tatertots> ssc_: well not 2 since two is fine dns wise
[11:24] <ssc_> Yep
[11:25] <Speiros> JP____ Which version are you using?
[11:25] <aaran> Hi, I am having a bit of an issue  with my machine, if I go afk for a while or manually lock the screen then when I get back its just a blinking cursor that does not accept input if I swap to a new terminal and try to startx after logging in I get the following http://imgur.com/a/M85CT
[11:26] <tatertots> ssc_: run sosreport from #1, it's in the official ubuntu repositories making it easy to find and install, i'll give you some information about sosreport for transparency.....https://linux.die.net/man/1/sosreport
[11:27] <aaran> which options would be best to use
[11:27] <JP____> Speiros: 14.04 LTS trusty
[11:27] <JP____> But i need to switch to 16.04
[11:27] <JP____> Is there a way to upgrade without breaking my system?
[11:28] <popey> !upgrade | JP____
[11:28] <Speiros> JP___ I'm using 14.04 too.  I'll upgrade later on through the year, as I may need the sound, and don't want to confront the issues at present.
[11:28] <ssc_> tatertots: Doing it
[11:29] <tatertots> ssc_: after its installed just run sudo sosreport
[11:29] <ssc_> I did
[11:29] <tatertots> ssc_: you will be asked some brief questions
[11:29] <ssc_> It has created .tar.xz
[11:29] <JP____> Speiros: i am using it to develop a commercial system and 16.06 has more years of support
[11:29] <tatertots> ssc_: obtain the tar ball
[11:30] <JP____> So i have to wait cause upstart is different than systemd
[11:30] <Speiros> aaran Were you able to access the log file that was written?  The one at var/log/x.org.1.log?
[11:30] <ssc_> tatertots: Obtained
[11:30] <fub> Hi. How do I get the "terminal bell" working? I am running ubuntu16.04 with i3wm and gnome-terminal. Printing a \a does nothing :/
[11:30] <geirha> is it enabled in gnome-terminal's preferences?
[11:30] <Speiros> JP____  Fair enough.  I'd like to see more Ubuntu commercial systems.  It's how it should be.
[11:30] <fub> geirha: yes
[11:30] <tatertots> ssc_: place the tarball, in your googledrive/onedrive/dropbox/ and send me the link
[11:31] <ssc_> Okay
[11:31] <fub> geirha: the whole purpose is to get a notification working when I get highlighted in weechat (which I am connected to via ssh)
[11:31] <fub> If there is a better way to do this I'm happy to hear
[11:31] <aaran> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/531325/84911909/
[11:32] <ssc_> tatertots: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0By0NW2La_9lvY3UwNHVVd01rTXM
[11:32] <geirha> Then gnome-terminal should try to play a bell sound, so question is why it's not audible. You haven't muted anything, right? :P
[11:33] <aaran> also Xorg.0.log
[11:33] <aaran> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/531326/49119981/
[11:34] <tomreyn> JP____: waiting won't help, you'll need to migrate your upstart scripts to systemd at *some* point ;) see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers for help - set up a 16.04 test vm, copy your software there and test it.
[11:34] <fub> geirha: http://i.imgur.com/rJeXp2p.png
[11:34] <tatertots> ssc_: standby analyzing
[11:34] <JP____> tomreyn: i have not yet written scripts to avoid this
[11:35] <tomreyn> JP____: oh i guess that makes it even easier then ;)
[11:35] <JP____> Yep :p
[11:35] <JP____> but last time i tried to upgrade to 16.04 my system broke, and i was too lazy to fix it
[11:35] <geirha> fub: have you checked   ~/.xsession-errors  for messages from gnome-terminal?
[11:36] <tomreyn> JP____: then create a clone of it, and try upgrading that instead
[11:36] <Speiros> Thanks aaran.
[11:36] <JP____> But now i have allot of code and configurations going on here.... Don't want that to break
[11:36] <geirha> fub: (sleep 2 && printf '\a'); tail -f ~/.xsession-errors
[11:36] <ssc_> tatertots: Okay
[11:36] <geirha> err, forgot the &.  (sleep 2 && printf '\a' &); tail -f ~/.xsession-errors
[11:37] <Salvatore> High Room
[11:37] <fub> geirha: yeah, nothing related to this
[11:37] <fub> just some debug output from a different program (statusbar)
[11:39] <Speiros> aaran I'm not sure, but hopefully someone else will be able to work on this with you.  I noticed there is a segmentation fault though, although I know little about these.
[11:40] <aaran> Ok thanks, is this the best channel to ask in?
[11:40] <JP____> Speiros, aaran: what is the problem?
[11:40] <aaran> Hi, I am having a bit of an issue  with my machine, if I go afk for a while or manually lock the screen then when I get back its just a blinking cursor that does not accept input if I swap to a new terminal and try to startx after logging in I get the following http://imgur.com/a/M85CT
[11:40] <fub> geirha: can this be related to zsh?
[11:40] <aaran> logs I posted for Speiros are a little further up
[11:40] <JP____> did you just upgrade?
[11:40] <Speiros> JP____  aaran has posted both the log for the fault, as well as the xorg log.
[11:41] <geirha> I doubt it. printf '\a' should output the same in zsh as bash
[11:41] <JP____> Wait but lunchtime, bbl
[11:41] <valbr> hi all :)
[11:42] <fub> geirha: "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences audible-bell true"
[11:42] <zhangxaochen> Help ~~ I can't logon my ubuntu 14.04 account, with the following error msg in ".xsession-errors": http://imgur.com/fE8avoy
[11:42] <aaran> I think the issue came around when I swapped the drivers for the nvidia card from the tested 367.57 to the untested 340.101, I have since swapped them back but its not resolved the issue
[11:42] <fub> geirha: does that make a difference even when I not use gnome?
[11:42] <JP____> aaran i had a similar issue with nvidia drivers
[11:42] <JP____> Change your drivers
[11:42] <geirha> fub: not sure
[11:43] <aaran> I did back to the tested ones but the issues persisits
[11:43] <JP____> aaran, i'm gonna go to lunch... but i will be bbl if you are still having issues
[11:43] <aaran> ditto thanks
[11:43] <valbr> I have a corsair K95 keyboard (+ logitech mouse) with a KVM cs692 switch. It works on a Mac mini, but not on my ubuntu 16.04 install. the error that dmesg gives is: http://pastebin.com/raw/tx2xFVuw
[11:44] <valbr> any idea?
[11:44] <fub> geirha: xset -display shows me this: "  bell percent:  50    bell pitch:  400    bell duration:  100
[11:45] <fub> used xset b 100 now and set percent to "100", but no change
[11:46] <tatertots> ssc_: you there
[11:47] <tatertots> ?
[11:47] <tatertots> ssc_: ali ali exen free
[11:48] <tatertots> ssc_: ali ali oxen free
[11:49] <tatertots> ssc_: just ping me when you get back to keyboard :)
[11:49] <tatertots> ssc_: https://gist.github.com/7a5066bce0564540cfae6e4bbb7d0e4f
[11:53] <marcin1> Hi
[11:53] <marcin1> How do i use live-image-xfce-desktop package when using live-build ?
[11:53] <marcin1> I pass it as -conffile parameter ?
[11:58] <ssc_> tatertots: Hello, yes
[11:59] <ssc_> tatertots: I see the file in /etc/resolv.conf
[12:00] <hateball> zhangxaochen: do you have proper drivers installed? nvidia chipset?
[12:01] <tatertots> ssc_: so in the pastebin of machine 1,2 and 3 139.162.16.5 is unable to resolve your domain name
[12:02] <tatertots> ssc_: it is also the very first dns server to be queried
[12:02] <ssc_> I comment that out?
[12:02] <tatertots> ssc_: it should be replaced with a dns server that CAN resolve your domain name
[12:03] <ssc_> After changing /etc/resolv.conf, do I need to do anything else? I mean any service restart etc?
[12:04] <tatertots> ssc_: no ip/mask and gateway will remain as unchanged
[12:05] <tatertots> ssc_: 139.162.16.5 failed to resolve your domain name, it is also the very first queried, so the idea is the query a dns server that can resolve it and always query that server first
[12:06] <ssc_> tatertots: I think I will contact Linode Support
[12:06] <tatertots> ssc_: ok
[12:08] <ssc_> Thank you very much tatertots
[12:08] <tatertots> ssc_: no prob my friend
[12:12] <erik_> Hi.
[12:13] <erik_> Is Ubuntu Core = Ubuntu Personal?
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:18] <erik_> where can i download "Ubuntu Personal" for the rpi?
[12:18] <ikonia> ubuntu personal ?
[12:18] <ikonia> what's ubuntu personal ?
[12:18] <erik_> https://launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+milestone/p1
[12:19] <ppf> isn't that the snappy distribution canonical announced a year ago?
[12:19] <erik_> released: 2016-12-16
[12:19] <ikonia> erik_: I don't see any release of it at all
[12:20] <ppf> erik_: either way, Core is for IoT stuff, Personal is some experimental thing
[12:20] <ppf> they're not the same
[12:20] <ikonia> I don't actually get what it is, as it's a component of canonical sys image
[12:20] <erik_> so core and personal are different?
[12:20] <ppf> erik_: yes
[12:20] <ikonia> erik_: what are you expecting personal to be ?
[12:21] <ikonia> it's the mile stone thats been released
[12:21] <ikonia> looking at that page
[12:21] <ikonia> not the product
[12:21] <erik_> i think personal is for embedded devices ...?
[12:22] <ppf> erik_: it's not
[12:22] <ppf> it's also not officially a thing
[12:22] <ikonia> erik_: what do you think it actually is ?
[12:22] <ikonia> erik_: or what is it your trying to do / achieve
[12:23] <ppf> this is about all the reliable information there is on Personal: http://www.olli-ries.com/t-242d/
[12:23] <ppf> and it's ancient
[12:23] <ikonia> it looks like the mile stone was hit on the 11th
[12:23] <erik_> ppf, where can i download the ubuntu personal, would like to try it ...
[12:23] <ikonia> erik_: what do you think it actually is ?
[12:24] <ppf> erik_: you can't, it doesn't exist (yet? officially?)
[12:24] <ikonia> it looks like it's not held on launchpad.net publicly
[12:24] <Filystyn> how can i change in libre impress style of page layout
[12:24] <Filystyn> HELLO
[12:24] <ZeR0NuLL0x00> hi
[12:25] <Filystyn>  how can i change in libre impress style of page layout
[12:25] <ZeR0NuLL0x00> ask in libre office channel
[12:25] <Filystyn> there is nan such
[12:25] <ikonia> it looks like work is happening on it in private as the milestones are being hit, but it's only one component of ubuntu sys image
[12:25] <Filystyn> thx
[12:25] <Filystyn>  how can i change in libre impress style of page layout
[12:25] <ikonia> there is a libre office channel
[12:25] <ZeR0NuLL0x00> there is a libre office channel
[12:25] <ZeR0NuLL0x00> lol
[12:25] <Filystyn> ye where?
[12:25] <hateball> Filystyn: #libreoffice
[12:25] <ikonia> #libreoffice
[12:25] <Filystyn> thank you for help
[12:26] <ZeR0NuLL0x00> cheers mate
[12:26] <erik_> ppf: why do they write it is "released" ?
[12:26] <seprob> tatertots, I think I've to do this. Our team leader said something like that. But our IT support I think so doesn't have idea to do this.
[12:26] <ikonia> erik_: they haven't
[12:26] <ikonia> erik_: what do you actually think this product is ?
[12:26] <ikonia> erik_: you seem to want to try it but not know what it is ? what are you trying to do and where are you being told that this component is the answer
[12:27] <erik_> ikonia: i don't know, therefore i'd like to try out
[12:27] <ikonia> so you just want to try a random thing ?
[12:27] <ikonia> someone must have said "look at this"
[12:27] <erik_> yupp
[12:27] <ikonia> why though ?
[12:27] <erik_> for fun
[12:27] <ikonia> if you don't know what it is, what do you expect it to do ?
[12:28] <ikonia> erik_: ok, pick a different random thing to try for fun
[12:28] <erik_> why?
[12:28] <ikonia> because that's not been released
[12:28] <ikonia> erik_: because it's not finished yet
[12:28] <ikonia> erik_: so pick something else random
[12:28] <tatertots> seprob: ok can you gather some trouble shooting information from one of the computer that functions as intended?
[12:30] <tatertots> seprob: maybe a coworker will assist you by allowing you to test commands on a working computer for trouble shooting purposes.
[12:30] <erik_> ikonia: thanks for no helping :(
[12:30] <ikonia> erik_: how can I help you ?
[12:30] <ikonia> erik_: you've told me you want to try a random thing, you don't know what it is, how to use it, what it does, and it's not even released
[12:31] <ikonia> how can anyone actually fix that situation
[12:31] <JP____> aaran: you still there?
[12:31] <aaran> yep
[12:32] <JP____> Alright, so if i understand correctly....
[12:32] <JP____> You changed gfx card
[12:32] <JP____> And this broke your ubuntu
[12:32] <aaran> nope
[12:33] <aaran> I changed drivers
[12:33] <JP____> You changed to an older set of drivers?
[12:33] <aaran> I changed from NVIDIA binary version 367.57 tested to NVIDIA binary version 340.101
[12:33] <JP____> Last time i had that problem i changed  the driver set back
[12:34] <JP____> And rebooted and i was good to go
[12:34] <aaran> tried that
[12:34] <JP____> Including reboot?
[12:34] <aaran> did not resolve the issue
[12:34] <aaran> yes
[12:34] <JP____> Ok
[12:34] <thatgraemeguy> derp
[12:34] <hateball> aaran: what GPU chipset do you have?
[12:34] <erik_> ikonia: so "Released: 2016-12-16" on that page is a fake?
[12:34] <ikonia> erik_: no,
[12:34] <ikonia> erik_: thats a milestone release
[12:34] <hateball> aaran: as 340 is for older chipset and wont work with newer ones, and vice versa
[12:35] <ikonia> looking at the page it looks like they are releasing against specs/requirements
[12:35] <ikonia> not a product release
[12:35] <aaran> what command would I run to find that
[12:35] <aaran> lspci?
[12:35] <aaran> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF100 [GeForce GTX 480] (rev a3)
[12:35] <BluesKaj> I've heard the 367 driver is buggy, depends on your gpu, but the 375 is suppoedly much more stable
[12:35] <erik_> milestone release for what?
[12:35] <erik_> internal?
[12:35] <JP____> BluesKaj: my experience also
[12:36] <JP____> The ubuntu recommended one did not work for me
[12:37] <BluesKaj> JP____, just repeaeting what I've heard , my nvidia is an entry level 8400GS so it runs fine on the 340
[12:37] <hateball> aaran: if you want to try the latest driver from !ppa you type: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-375
[12:37] <ikevin> why using nvidia's buggy driver?
[12:37] <tatertots> aaran: hi
[12:37] <Ram4af> hi
[12:37] <hateball> aaran: what reason did you have for changing from 367 to 340 in the first place?
[12:37] <aaran> no idea
[12:37] <aaran> I just did it
[12:37] <zhangxaochen> hateball, solved.. I reinstalled the nvidia driver
[12:37] <JP____> aaran: incase the 375 doesn't work... NVIDIA also has linux drivers online
[12:37] <ikevin> aaran, nouveau don't work?
[12:38] <hateball> zhangxaochen: :)
[12:38] <aaran> would you suggest using noubeau divers
[12:38] <ikevin> yes
[12:38] <hateball> If you want to have terrible performance and not play any games, go for it
[12:39] <aaran> I dont play games but I do have multi monitor
[12:39] <aaran> if that matters
[12:39] <fub> geirha: got it. I needed to play with "pactl upload-sample" ..
[12:39] <fub> so there is still some problem left:
[12:39] <ikevin> hateball, so, nouveau is working and is stable
[12:39] <JP____> aaran: how many drivers are selectable in your driverslist?
[12:39] <fub> when I ssh to my server and do printf "\a", I can hear the bell. When I then go into a screen session and do this, I hear nothing
[12:39] <fub> any idea?
[12:39] <tatertots> nouveau is actually pretty impressive https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix/
[12:40] <geirha> fub: screen has its own handling of the bell
[12:40] <aaran> non of them say "stable"
[12:40] <JP____> aaran: That's not what i asked...
[12:40] <fub> geirha: can I .. deactivate this?
[12:40] <geirha> fub: so you'll want to look through its settings and make sure it passes it on to the attached terminal
[12:40] <aaran> how do I tell ?
[12:40] <JP____> open op your driver selection screen
[12:40] <aaran> yep im there
[12:41] <JP____> and you see  list of drivers
[12:41] <JP____> can you pastebin it?
[12:41] <aaran> I can take a screenshot its not copyable
[12:41] <JP____> Yeah that's fine
[12:42] <geirha> fub: #screen can probably help with that bit
[12:42] <aaran> https://i.imgur.com/rwyT30G.png
[12:42] <fub> geirha: got it.. CTRL+A plus CTRL+G
[12:42] <fub> this switched from "visual bell" to "audible bell"§
[12:42] <JP____> lol, your using the wrong one :p
[12:43] <fub> thanks for your help
[12:43] <geirha> fub: looking at the manual, vbell should be off by default, so there's a screenrc somewhere that enables it
[12:43] <JP____> aaran: which ubuntu version are you using?
[12:44] <fub> geirha: okay. Strange because it's an default install where I did not change anything
[12:44] <JP____> aaran:?
[12:44] <aaran> Description:	Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[12:44] <JP____> ah ok
[12:44] <JP____> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[12:44] <JP____> download 375
[12:44] <JP____> and try that one
[12:45] <ikevin> JP____, wrong idea ...
[12:45] <geirha> fub: /etc/screenrc
[12:45] <erik_> ppf: when I install Ubuntu Core with a MIR-Display Server I have Ubuntu Personal?
[12:45] <aaran> Ok
[12:45] <JP____> ikevin: Why?
[12:45] <geirha> fub: debian/ubuntu packagers likes to add their own defaults :)
[12:45] <ikevin> JP____, first kernel upgrade and driver need to be reinstalled
[12:45] <JP____> ikevin: What?
[12:46] <ikevin> JP____, kms build is not working
[12:46] <ikevin> dkms*
[12:46] <fub> geirha: yeah, vbell was on there
[12:46] <fub> geirha: so can a "visuall bell" also be pushed to my local terminal?
[12:46] <JP____> ikevin: i don't understand
[12:47] <aaran> how am I executing this .run file
[12:47] <JP____> go into a terminal
[12:47] <hateball> ...
[12:47] <JP____> and type: .\ *program-name*.run
[12:47] <ikevin> JP____, when installing from .run file from nvidia's site, it build a module only for the current kernel, if kernel change you need to rebuild a new nvidia module
[12:47] <hateball> why are you using that instead of the PPA
[12:47] <hateball> which will work properly with dkms
[12:48] <hateball> such terrible advice
[12:48] <tatertots> gotta kill xserver first
[12:48] <ppf> erik_: no ...
[12:48] <JP____> ikevin: yeah, but he just needs it to work now
[12:48] <ppf> erik_: there is no Ubuntu Personal
[12:48] <aaran> err
[12:48] <tatertots> aaran: xserver is still running
[12:48] <aaran> before I continue... so this or the ppa ?
[12:48] <JP____> hateball: i was not aware that NVIDIA had a ppa
[12:48] <ikevin> aaran, use nouveau driver
[12:48] <hateball> JP____: I just linked it
[12:48] <hateball> aaran: If you use the PPA, it is much easier to manage driver versions
[12:48] <aaran> Ok what am I running
[12:49] <JP____> hateball: that would be preferable
[12:49] <hateball> aaran: Again: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-375
[12:49] <erik_> ikonia: I do not get it, where is the different between a mobile and an embedded device? Isn't a mobile device an embedded device?
[12:49] <ppf> erik_: no
[12:49] <ppf> a mobile device is a cellphone, an embedded device is a fridge
[12:50] <aaran> done
[12:50] <ppf> e.g.
[12:50] <JP____> aaran: now the new drivers should be visible in your driver selection
[12:50] <hateball> JP____: The new driver is already activated by running that
[12:50] <hateball> aaran: Did you see modules get built etc?
[12:51] <aaran> it ran very fast
[12:51] <erik_> ppf: what is a mobile fridge? ;)
[12:51] <ppf> it isn't
[12:51] <aaran> and its using 367.57 in the additional drivers
[12:51] <JP____> erik_ a mobile fridge allows you to party
[12:52] <ikonia> erik_: get what ?
[12:52] <ikonia> erik_: you are not explaining what's going on here
[12:52] <hateball> aaran: pastebin your terminal output after you copy-pasted what I gave you
[12:52] <ikonia> erik_: you say "I don't know what this product is, I don't know anything about it, I don't know what it does, I want to try it"
[12:52] <ikonia> erik_: where are you getting the info that this is what you need
[12:52] <erik_> so is core+mir with unity 8 personal?
[12:52] <hateball> aaran: and I am not sure the driver-gui will show the PPA driver at any rate
[12:53] <ppf> erik_: there is no such thing as Personal
[12:53] <hateball> aaran: you will need to reboot to reload the new modules anyhow
[12:53] <aaran> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/531373/91683314/
[12:53] <ikonia> erik_: what is unity 8 personal
[12:54] <ikonia> erik_: you keep saying this, but you then say you don't know what it is, but want it ?
[12:54] <ikonia> erik_: what is it you are looking to do
[12:54] <JP____> aaran: reboot and come back
[12:55] <aaran> ok
[12:56] <aaran> Ok restarted
[12:57] <aaran> still says its using 367.57 should I swap it to 378.09
[13:00] <erik_> ikonia: I think I'll try out http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/16/candidate/20170118/ubuntu-core-16-pi2.img.xz
[13:00] <ikonia> erik_: I'm not asking that
[13:00] <ikonia> erik_: I'm asking what are you expecting ? what are you trying to achieve
[13:00] <ikonia> you keep stating this product, but you then state you have no idea what it's for / what it does / what you expect
[13:00] <hateball> aaran: you can try 378, sure
[13:01] <aaran> here goes
[13:01] <erik_> ikonia: I'd like to know what these snappy stuff is
[13:01] <seprob> tatertots, one of them was next to me so I put the same command through the same client but I get error no. 400 (I use wscat).
[13:02] <ppf> erik_: it's a novel application distribution technique
[13:02] <ppf> and unrelated to some unknown thing called Personal
[13:02] <ikonia> erik_: snappy is not this
[13:02] <ikonia> erik_: snappy is the ability to install snaps
[13:02] <ikonia> you're looking at a very specific component
[13:03] <ppf> !snaps
[13:03] <nils_> sup
[13:04] <ppf> too bad.
[13:04] <ppf> erik_: fwiw: http://www.ubuntu.com/snappy/ and #snappy
[13:04] <ppf> it's in ubuntu since xenial
[13:13] <tatertots> seprob: has the symptom been observed on two different computers so far? yes or no
[13:22] <seprob> tatertots, yes.
[13:23] <neenee> aren't snaps universal packages from source?
[13:24] <neenee> or I could just google ;)
[13:24] <Dr_Coke> do you know what the gnome connection utility to android phones is called I know KDE has KDE connect but I want the gnome one
[13:24] <synj> does anyone know how i can get in contact with an operator so i can reclaim my password ?
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> !snappy | neenee
[13:24] <erik_> do i really need an online account to install ubuntu-core?
[13:24] <neenee> hm
[13:24] <hateball> synj: a password for what?
[13:24] <tatertots> seprob: you were able to reproduce the symptom on a second computer, ruling out only your computer suffering from the symptom. If you want and can try a third computer to be even more confident.
[13:24] <neenee> I will google :)
[13:25] <erik_> https://developer.ubuntu.com/core/get-started/raspberry-pi-2-3
[13:25] <hateball> !pm | synj
[13:25] <hateball> synj: ask in #freenode
[13:25] <neenee> synj: or ask Nickserv
[13:26] <synj> ok i will ask in freenode thanks
[13:27] <neenee> Dr_Coke: Nuntius?
[13:28] <Dr_Coke> neenee: thanks
[13:28] <xangua> Dr_Coke: there is no gnome one, you can use KDE conect no matter what desktop you use
[13:28] <Dr_Coke> xangua ok
[13:29] <erik_> back
[13:30] <Dr_Coke> Im going to try nuntius
[13:30] <erik_> again, do I really need an online account to install ubuntu-core on my pi ?
[13:30] <neenee> I think it's still in alpha + mostly for just notifications, but good luck
[13:30] <xangua> Dr_Coke: Nautilus is just a file browser
[13:30] <Dr_Coke> oh
[13:30] <Dr_Coke> ok kde connect it is
[13:31] <neenee> erik_: xangua Not Nautilus
[13:31] <neenee> https://github.com/holylobster/nuntius-linux
[13:31] <xangua> Dr_Coke: www.webupd8.org/2017/01/integrate-your-android-device-with.html don't know about gnome shell but most official Ubuntu flavors support indicators www.webupd8.org/2017/01/integrate-your-android-device-with.html
[13:32] <erik_> neenee: ?
[13:33] <neenee> never mind :)
[13:33] <xangua> Over Bluetooth? Sounds battery intensive neenee , KDE indicator supports notifications, file browser, paste sync
[13:33] <erik_> ;)
[13:33] <neenee> xangua: I am not familiar with the product :)
[13:33] <neenee> KDE Indicator seems fine - go use that ;)
[13:34] <neenee> Personally I prefer just looking at my phone every now and then with glance
[13:34] <Dr_Coke> thanks xangua
[13:34] <Dr_Coke> im going with that one
[13:34] <xangua> neenee: it's useful if you want to show grandma pics and phone screen is just too small
[13:35] <neenee> Ah yes, good point :)
[13:35] <neenee> I can imagine it is
[13:35] <neenee> I prefer sending to kodi/chromecast, but to a laptop is fine too :)
[13:40] <Dr_Coke> xangua why hasn't google released an official application to be able to install new versions of android
[13:40] <Dr_Coke> on your phone
[13:40] <Dr_Coke> rather why don't the phone makers make their phone install software for linux
[13:40] <OerHeks> Dr_Coke, ask google?
[13:41] <neenee> Why would they need to?
[13:41] <neenee> Just leave android installed and it will automatically check for updates
[13:41] <Dr_Coke> neenee well otherwise you just have the option of installing it from the phone
[13:41] <Dr_Coke> and with ios its much better with a clean install
[13:41] <neenee> it is already installed, you can not remove it
[13:41] <neenee> you can just do a factory reset
[13:41] <OerHeks> really offtopic, android support
[13:41] <neenee> true
[13:42] <xangua> Install software for Linux? This is really out of the scope for #Ubuntu
[13:42] <Dr_Coke> neenee I know you can do that
[13:43] <OerHeks> we do support putting ubuntu-touch on your android phone
[13:43] <Dr_Coke> lol
[13:43] <xangua> Not for all phones
[13:43] <Dr_Coke> xangua how many apps does ubuntu touch have
[13:44] <neenee> Quality > Quantity
[13:45] <OerHeks> 2821 phone apps & scopes
[13:45] <OerHeks> https://uappexplorer.com/apps
[13:46] <OerHeks> google got 275.000 vulnerable apps, your choise
[13:51] <erik_> again, why do i need an online account to install ubuntu-core?
[13:52] <neenee> I know not. Is it not described why you need it where you can get it from?
[13:52] <OerHeks> It used Ubuntu SSO to configure a user account with ssh public key authentication on headless devices, rather than using a stock, pre-set username and password.
[13:52] <erik_> https://developer.ubuntu.com/core/get-started/raspberry-pi-2-3
[13:53] <OerHeks> So it is super easy for developers to set up Ubuntu Core in 20 seconds and then get to work without having to figure out how to change unsafe "default" access
[13:54] <erik_> what?
[13:55] <OerHeks> what part do you not understand? "what?"is not a valid question
[13:56] <erik_> It is new for me, that I must have an online account to install linux!
[13:57] <xangua> erik_: are you planning on building toasters and fridges with Ubuntu embed?
[13:57] <BluesKaj> erik, most rpi users install Raspbian or Ubuntu-Mate , no accounts needed
[13:58] <erik_> ubuntu mate for rpi is not "official"
[13:59] <the_tricky> hello
[14:00] <erik_> "official" ubuntu versions need an online account?
[14:00] <seprob> tatertots, yes I could reproduce the symptom on a second computer.
[14:00] <OerHeks> erik_, you know that answer already
[14:01] <tatertots> seprob: show your request/command again
[14:01] <BluesKaj> erik_, looks quite "official" to me https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/
[14:01] <CrazyTux> how to check on Ubuntu whether my laptop has BIOS or UEFI?
[14:01] <tatertots> seprob: are you at school or work right now? your response times have a large lapse of time in between.
[14:02] <the_tricky> there seems to be a problem with some drivers on my pc
[14:02] <the_tricky> can anyone help?
[14:02] <erik_> OerHeks: no! is ubuntu going the microsoft-way? BluesKaj: check http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[14:02] <the_tricky> any advice?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> that's odd why don't ordinary ubuntu iso images require an ubuntu account
[14:02] <xangua> erik_: Ubuntu mate is an official Ubuntu flavor, what exactly you mean is not official?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> erik_, you're all wet!
[14:02] <OerHeks> CrazyTux, open browser, surf to your vendor, or  check to see if /sys/firmware/efi exists. It does not appear if you booted using traditional BIOS.
[14:02] <EriC^^> CrazyTux: dmidecode
[14:03] <CrazyTux> any commond to know that?
[14:03] <erik_> BluesKaj: please read first
[14:03] <EriC^^> CrazyTux: sudo dmidecode | grep UEFI
[14:03] <erik_> An Ubuntu SSO account is required to create the first user on an Ubuntu Core installation.
[14:04] <tomreyn> CrazyTux: you would need to check your bios / uefi setup (right after powering up the computer) to check what is available- on a running ubuntu, to tell wwhat is currently being used, run:  [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[14:04] <BluesKaj> erik_, good luck with that silly belief
[14:04] <vandana> can anyone help me out for resolving wifi issues? searched internet and tried but no luck.. have rtl8723be card+ubuntu 16.04+latest linux kernel 4.9.2
[14:04] <CrazyTux> in the terminal, it showed that UEFI is supported.
[14:05] <erik_> xangua: you cant't dl ubuntu mate for rpi on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[14:05] <CrazyTux> thanks a lot guys.
[14:06] <neenee> vandana: did you compile it yourself? perhaps you did not include the necessary modules?
[14:06] <EriC^^> CrazyTux: that only says that it has uefi, not that ubuntu in installed in uefi, i have no idea what your end goal is so i thought i should point that out
[14:06] <OerHeks> uh oh, latest kernel, that needs manually building the driver
[14:06] <seprob> tatertots, I'm at work. When I use wscat I get "error: Error: unexpected server response (400)".
[14:06] <EriC^^> CrazyTux: if you want to see if ubuntu is installed in uefi mode, use tomreyn 's command
[14:07] <tatertots> seprob: full wscat syntax used please
[14:07] <tatertots> seprob: verbatim
[14:07] <CrazyTux> It looks like there is some problem with Xubuntu as far as wifi is concerned. I can't switch between two wireless networks easily, sometimes.
[14:09] <CrazyTux> Does Mate have good Wifi support?
[14:09] <seprob> tatertots: "wscat -c http://server -p 13".
[14:11] <tatertots> sap
[14:11] <erik_> xangua: all "official" versions you can download from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com . If a version is not there it is not official, simple, isn't it?
[14:11] <neenee> CrazyTux: I think any WM Does
[14:11] <tatertots> seprob: the syntax isn't as per the manual
[14:11] <CrazyTux> I have Xubuntu installed and also GNOME DE on it. Switching between Wifi networks is easy in GNOME, but, I can't get Xubuntu detect the other network easily.
[14:11] <tatertots> seprob: read man wscat
[14:11] <tatertots> seprob: correct your syntax to match the wscat documentation
[14:11] <zes1n2> Hi. I try to source .Xdefaults or .Xresources, it spits out "Illegal command name" for whatever command is at the top. (with xterm + fish shell). If I try in lxterminal + bash, I get "bash: command not found". The commands are valid, and the only change I think I've made was updating xterm as default term
[14:13] <CrazyTux> But, I find using GNOME a little difficult as compared to Xubuntu.
[14:13] <tatertots> seprob: wscat -p 13 -c http://server        also ping and make sure <server> resolves forward and backward on all computers,
[14:14] <seprob> tatertots, sorry it is "wscat -c ws://server -p 13".
[14:14] <erik_> ok, i do not think that i get here some help about "installing ubuntu-core on the rpi without an online account" :(
[14:14] <number28> Anyone know the fix for mouse jumping to trashcan bug?
[14:14] <tomreyn> zes1n2: both these files are configuration files, not scripts
[14:14] <tatertots> seprob: wscat -p 13 -c http://server        also ping and make sure <server> resolves forward and backward on all computers,
[14:15] <OerHeks> number28, sounds like dirt in the led-eye-corner-bug
[14:15] <number28> OerHeks: ?
[14:15] <number28> OerHeks, what do you mean
[14:15] <zes1n2> tomreyn: Oh wow. I thought I was going crazy. Thanks
[14:15] <tatertots> seprob: looks like a networking problem, especially with the confusion about "//server"
[14:16] <OerHeks> number28, dirt on the led in your mouse, or corner of your touchad gives such result
[14:16] <seprob> tatertots, we cannot ping server in our network but we resolve forward and backward.
[14:17] <number28> OerHeks: Really? I mean it's pretty much a brand new laptop. It's hard to imagine anything even in the crack.
[14:17] <tomreyn> zes1n2: welcome. they are interpreted by xrdb when X starts (or when you instruct xrdb to do so).
[14:17] <OerHeks> number28, i refuse to believe such softwarebug exists, so it is hardware related.
[14:18] <number28> OerHeks: Okay, fair enough. I'll try and get some airduster and hit the sides i suppose.
[14:18] <number28> OerHeks: I appreciate the advice.
[14:18] <zes1n2> tomreyn: Yeah, I think my brain crossed some wires tonight
[14:19] <noone> #anonops
[14:19] <tomreyn> ;)
[14:19] <tomreyn> noone: you just joined #ubuntu, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[14:20] <gtrt> ciao
[14:20] <gtrt> !list
[14:21] <noone> hi sorry, just trying to get an understanding of all this irc, trying to connect to a specific network/channel, but cant without going into one like this
[14:24] <neenee> noone: type /join #anonops
[14:25] <noone> Thnaks NEENEE, it connects me, but not to the #anonops that i just was on, thats what i cannot understand...
[14:26] <neenee> perhaps the channel is full, they might have an overflow channel
[14:26] <neenee> it would then automatically redirect you to that
[14:26] <JP____> or it might require you to be registered
[14:26] <neenee> or that, but he said he was just on it
[14:26] <noone> ahhh, so i may be redirected to the overflow server, thats makes kind a sense
[14:26] <JP____> When i forget to log in, i am redirected from certain servers
[14:27] <noone> i was just in, and there was plenty online colours, now theres only the chanserv
[14:28] <noone> online colours (just my scandinavian english)
[14:29] <DolphinDream> howdy bunterz
[14:30] <noone> But anyway, is this the place for me to go when i need ubuntu help? :D
[14:30] <DolphinDream> how is the laucher button on the dock called? the button that allows you to search ?
[14:30] <DolphinDream> can you deactivate the ATL / SUPER to no longer invoke the search for apps / runcommands ?
[14:31] <EriC^^> DolphinDream: dash
[14:31] <EriC^^> how it is called?
[14:31] <EriC^^> can you rephrase your question?
[14:31] <neenee> start button? ;)
[14:31] <EriC^^> DolphinDream: maybe, look in settings > keyboard
[14:31] <EriC^^> i think you can iirc
[14:31] <neenee> what would you want that button to do instead?
[14:32] <DolphinDream> EriC^^: i'm tyring to tweak the unity settings to turn off that searcher (or access to that via ALT/SUPER) and wanted to know what it's called so i know what to look for
[14:41] <Pici> Search lens?
[14:42] <fuad> hi there, any suggestion for android emulator on ubuntu 32 bit?
[14:51] <MrP> Hello, I'm running xubuntu core and I need to figure out how to add a network printer. For some reason, I can't do anything on the network, I.E., I cant view anything workgroup or "Browse Network" in thunar. ANy help would be appriciated.
[14:53] <tatertots> MrP: make and model of printer?
[14:54] <MrP> HP DeskJet 3632 - It worked fine on Ubuntu 16.04 and .10
[14:54] <MrP> tatertots ^^
[14:55] <hateball> MrP: do you have hplip installed
[14:56] <hateball> as for Thunar I have no idea if it is aware of bonjour or samba
[14:57] <Pinkamena_D> When using tmux, If I make a split session (CTRL+B, ") and resize the terminal, only ever the top session becomes larger or smaller. Is there any way to make both sessions scale evenly?
[14:57] <tatertots> MrP: do you already have hplip installed?
[14:57] <MrP> hplip or hplib? hplip not found.
[14:58] <MrP> tatertots, I do not have that.
[14:58] <tatertots> MrP: sudo apt install inxi hplip pastebinit
[14:58] <tatertots> MrP: let me know when the install is completed
[14:59] <czerwonolicy> mówi ktos po ang?
[15:00] <JP____> sawasdee
[15:00] <MrP> tatertots, Done
[15:00] <czerwonolicy> who speak english?
[15:01] <anonV> I Do
[15:01] <JP____> Everyone here speaks english
[15:01] <b00> NOT ME
[15:01] <JP____> State your question
[15:01] <quny> Hi morning
[15:01] <tatertots> MrP: in terminal>      ls -lh /usr/bin|grep hp|pastebinit
[15:01] <tatertots> MrP: press enter
[15:01] <anonV> Need help im always getting Failure to download extra data files
[15:01] <anonV> The following packages requested additional data downloads after package installation, but the data could not be downloaded or could not be processed.
[15:01] <anonV> ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[15:01] <tatertots> MrP: share url/link here
[15:01] <czerwonolicy> I would like speak mo
[15:01] <quny> I have a question about hasMany case
[15:02] <anonV> i ran sudo apt-get install --reinstall ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[15:02] <anonV> but im getting 404 not found
[15:02] <JP____> does the package exist?
[15:03] <MrP> ls -lh /usr/bin|grep hp|pastebinit <-- I did it the first time without pastebin, sorry I missed that. It installed everything though. tatertots
[15:03] <MrP> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23833698/ tatertots
[15:03] <quny> A hasMany C with foreignKey a_id, B hasMany C with foreignKey b_id.
[15:03] <MrP> It's too early this morning.
[15:03] <quny> C table is like:
[15:04] <quny> id
[15:04] <quny> a_id
[15:04] <quny> b_id
[15:04] <anonV> ttf-mscorefonts-installer: downloading http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/andale32.exe
[15:04] <anonV> Err:1 http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/andale32.exe
[15:04] <anonV>   404  Not Found
[15:04] <anonV> W: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file '/var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/partial/andale32.exe' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)
[15:04] <anonV> E: Failed to fetch https://freefr.dl.sourceforge.net/project/corefonts/the fonts/final/andale32.exe  404  Not Found
[15:04] <quny> created
[15:04] <tatertots> MrP: and you already know the ip of the printer and have tested that you can ping the printers ip?
[15:04] <anonV> nop the link dont work
[15:05] <JP____> anonV are you running as superuser?
[15:05] <MrP> tatertots, I have ZERO lan access. I cannot do anything locally.
[15:05] <quny> How to synchronize the related information in A or B to C??
[15:05] <MrP> I get this error on thunar; Failed to open "/ on ".
[15:05] <tatertots> MrP: how did you imagine you would install and use a 'network' printer without being connected to the same network of the printer?
[15:06] <anonV> not as root
[15:06] <JP____> Well any installs not done as root can encouter privilige problems
[15:06] <JP____> But also, .exe files don't usually work under linux
[15:06] <tatertots> MrP: did you plan on running a usb cord from your computer to the printer?
[15:06] <MrP> tatertots, I didn't imagine that, it was in my original post that I had no network access.
[15:06] <anonV> ok gonna try it
[15:06] <JP____> (unless you have wine)
[15:06] <MrP> No, It's a network printer.
[15:07] <tatertots> MrP: can you physically touch the printer with your hands from where you are right now?
[15:07] <MrP> tatertots, yes
[15:08] <tatertots> MrP: use the menu buttons on the printer to print a network configuration page out of the printer using the menu button on the printer
[15:08] <tatertots> MrP: let me know when you have the network configuration page in your hand from the printer.
[15:10] <MrP> tatertots, before we get any further. This printer doesn't have a gui. It only shows whether it's connected or not. That has to be connected through the HP gui. I have the printer plugged into the computer via usb right now. I need to run some config from the HP software first. That I can figure out once I can access that. I need to, right now, enable networking on this computer so that I can view networked devices.
[15:12] <tatertots> MrP: you have the printer connected with usb right now?
[15:12] <MrP> tatertots, Yes. Sorry for the confusion.
[15:13] <tatertots> MrP: sudo hp-setup
[15:14] <MrP> HPLIP not properly installed or is installed without graphical support.
[15:14] <MrP> tatertots ^^
[15:14] <JP____> anonV: any luck?
[15:15] <tatertots> MrP: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[15:15] <tatertots> MrP: share url/link here
[15:16] <MrP>  inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[15:16] <tatertots> MrP: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[15:16] <tatertots> MrP: press enter
[15:16] <MrP> Damn it. keep trying to copy from terminal With Ctrl+C
[15:16] <tatertots> MrP: share url/link here
[15:16] <MrP> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23833749/
[15:16] <MrP> Forgive the profanity.
[15:18] <jfmcarreira> heys guys
[15:18] <tatertots> MrP: sudp apt install hplip-gui
[15:18] <tatertots> MrP: let me know once the install is completed
[15:18] <TBotNik> All: Writeup on my problem at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5657204#post5657204 Problem is finding/processing files with no extensions!
[15:18] <MrP> tatertots, Want me to try the last command again? the hp-setup?
[15:20] <jfmcarreira> heys http://dpaste.com/03ACMB8
[15:20] <jfmcarreira> is this normal... drivers mismatch between kernel
[15:22] <tatertots> MrP: sudp apt install hplip-gui
[15:22] <tatertots> MrP: sudo hp-setup
[15:22] <tatertots> MrP: yes
[15:22] <tatertots> MrP: sudo hp-setup
[15:24] <MrP> tatertots, It's connecting to the network *I think*
[15:24] <hautamaeki> Hello! How to gain remote control over computer via bash? Is there any good scripts for that?
[15:25] <Pici> hautamaeki: ssh?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> hautamaeki, like I told you yesterday ask in the #bash chat
[15:26] <hautamaeki> How to use ssh?
[15:26] <Pici> hautamaeki: ssh user@host
[15:27] <MrP> tatertots, No printing.
[15:27] <neyderaa> Good morning
[15:28] <MrP> tatertots, No printing. I can confirm it is connected to the network and I have it's IP address.
[15:28] <tatertots> MrP: did you select the correct answers during the hplip setup process?
[15:28] <MrP> tatertots, Yes. I'm sure. I can use it on other networked computers.
[15:29] <tatertots> MrP: first you need to get your stories straight...first it was network, then "i have no lan" , then "its usb" now "its network"...
[15:29] <neyderaa> I had many failed attempts of installing software RAID 5, how can I clean my disk to successfully install in RAID, always get problems of syncs
[15:29] <tatertots> MrP: you have hplip installed now, figure the rest out on your own...i can't handle your inconsistencies any longer
[15:30] <MrP> It was USB for a brief moment because I needed to connect to a different access point. I have no LAN, this no networked devices. My story is straight.
[15:31] <tatertots> MrP: i asked about the ip an hour ago and you acted clueless...now all the sudden you have the ip in hand
[15:31] <MrP> Yes.
[15:31] <tatertots> MrP: naw brah can't even do ppl like you
[15:31] <MrP> Because there was no IP before.
[15:31] <MrP> I connected USB. Remember? I did the setup. Remember? Now, guess what. I have the IP..... Because it's now connected.
[15:33] <MrP> Wow. SO hard to understand. You said you needed the IP address and I did that to get you one. Now I have my initial issue of not seeing networked devices.
[15:33] <BluesKaj> suggest if it's irrelevant then don't mention it
[15:33] <OerHeks> MrP, is your user member of the lp group? > * Is the user part of the lp group? Run "groups" in a terminal window and verifiy the user is a part of the lp group http://hplipopensource.com/node/332#printing2
[15:34] <MrP> adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[15:34] <MrP> OerHeks ^^
[15:37] <who> hi
[15:37] <OerHeks> mrp adduser $USER lp # and restart cups
[15:38] <OerHeks> * sudo adduser $USER lp
[15:38] <MrP> OerHeks, Restart computer? Just to clarify.
[15:38] <OerHeks> sudo is needed for this action
[15:38] <who> alnr: hello
[15:38] <JP____> AAAAAH!!!! nee, een heks
[15:38] <who> sudo
[15:38] <who> ?
[15:39] <OerHeks> JP____, this is help4free :-)
[15:39] <JP____> who: state your question
[15:39] <JP____> aaaaa, een heks die me aanspreekt :p
[15:39] <OerHeks> MrP, no, just run: sudo systemctl restart cups.service
[15:41] <RNeville> Hello, my mouse doesn't ever seem to scroll down or up correctly, running Ubuntu 16.04
[15:41] <MrP> OerHeks, Okay. That appears to have completed...
[15:41] <OerHeks> MrP, you might need to turn off/on the printer too, not sure about that
[15:41] <JP____> RNeville: laptop trackpad or actual mouse?
[15:42] <MrP> OerHeks, I will for good measure.
[15:44] <MrP> OerHeks, Still no luck printing.
[15:46] <RNeville> actual mouse
[15:46] <RNeville> JP____, actual mouse
[15:46] <JP____> I see..
[15:46] <anonV> sry for the delay but even running as root it doenst work
[15:47] <RNeville> long text files , really give me a problem
[15:47] <RNeville> when using the mouse
[15:47] <anonV> the problem is the page doenst exist anymore
[15:47] <JP____> ps/2 mouse or usb?
[15:47] <RNeville> seems to go up one line, jumps back two lines - many times
[15:47] <RNeville> wireless usb
[15:47] <JP____> anonV: can't do much about that
[15:47] <JP____> anonV: unless you tell me what the program does
[15:48] <JP____> RNeville: has it worked before?
[15:48] <RNeville> seemed to have had this problem for years now, when using Ubuntu
[15:49] <JP____> does unplug/replugging the usb connector work?
[15:49] <JP____> Seems to have worked for some people
[15:49] <RNeville> even here, using hexchat - when scrolling up the dialog, it seems to go one line up and two backwards, many times
[15:49] <anonV> its an upgrade for the ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[15:50] <RNeville> I guess I could try a wired mouse - which I would hate to use
[15:50] <JP____> anonV: i don't know what that is
[15:50] <JP____> RNeville: if it works... :p
[15:51] <stan_man_can> Question.... Right now my OS is installed on one drive, and my home is on another
[15:51] <JP____> RNeville: i don't have much time
[15:51] <JP____> But can you do lsusb?
[15:51] <stan_man_can> nevermind.
[15:51] <anonV> its microsoft truetype core fonts
[15:51] <anonV> probably skype installed them
[15:52] <anonV> since i dont have any microsoft crap besides that
[15:52] <JP____> Oh ok :p
[15:52] <JP____> So it's nothing you need
[15:52] <anonV> nop
[15:52] <JP____> Does skype still work?
[15:53] <anonV> i just dont like having this error everytime i turn my pc on
[15:53] <anonV> yup
[15:53] <anonV> everything is working
[15:55] <stan_man_can> If i'm going to dual boot windows and linux, both operating systems installed on different hard drives, which one should I install first?
[15:55] <JP____> stan_man_can
[15:55] <JP____> If it is on different hard-drives it doesn't matter
[15:55] <OerHeks> anonV, known issue, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2343669&p=13583992#post13583992 ( remove+purge first, then do the 1st part to install )
[15:56] <JP____> anonV: what OerHeks says should work
[15:58] <RNeville> JP____, one more thing about my mouse problems: though the scroll wheel doesn't seem to work correctly, if I use the side bare to scroll up, it works fine
[15:59] <RNeville> works well **
[16:01] <anonV> OerHeks: worked ty.
[16:05] <thiras> I have some problem with latest java update
[16:05] <thiras> I'm using Oracle's Java
[16:06] <thiras> now I cannot purge java's because of dependency and cannot use dpkg at all
[16:14] <ppf> those sound like two unrelated problems?
[16:23] <absurdist> why  ubuntu keeps freaking out about a external usb hd (jmicron) at boot
[16:23] <xangua> ! Details | absurdist
[16:25] <tatertots> absurdist: can you open terminal?
[16:25] <absurdist> https://paste.ee/p/rcN33
[16:25] <absurdist> thats the dmesg output
[16:27] <absurdist> tatertots: https://paste.ee/p/wVgAb
[16:31] <tatertots> absurdist: sudo apt install sosreport
[16:31] <tatertots> absurdist: after it's installed run with sudo sosreport
[16:32] <tatertots> absurdist: let me know when you have obtained the report
[16:32] <absurdist> the case id
[16:32] <tatertots> skip case id
[16:32] <absurdist> ok
[16:32] <tatertots> absurdist: put the report on your dropbox/google drive/one drive/ and send me the link
[16:33] <absurdist> ok
[16:39] <skinux> How can we turn downloaded app binaries (e.g. /opt/some-app) into Ubuntu packages that will be installed alike of repo packages?
[16:41] <k1l> skinux: most times its a licence issue that those projects dont want it that way. but you could look at the packaging guides
[16:41] <ana_> hola
[16:41] <k1l> skinux: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/
[16:42] <EriC^^> !checkinstall | skinux
[16:42] <jlund> NickServ identify woopwoop
[16:42] <jlund> LOL
[16:44] <jlund> Fun typo.
[16:44] <zikoo> hello
[16:46] <backbox> h'
[16:46] <backbox> hi
[17:04] <lasersaber> hi, what can i use to create an iso file from a cd that i have?
[17:07] <lasersaber> never mind
[17:27] <groundze1o> hello there
[17:27] <groundze1o> how are you doing
[17:30] <xXEoflaOEXx> groundze1o, Hello.
[17:38] <prezz> THE NIGGER IS LEAVING RIGHT NOW!!! prezz greuh gregl mizu_no_oto madsa coy milardovich theblazehen delfos mhache carbon-cabron murphy tnovacik Szadek Texou skweek trini7y MrP2 suutala f10 miczac groundze1o poco h0schi silverhom nicoulaj fguillot jamie_1 FunkSt8r dazhuang pos dv_ desti anon5635 Roland Nyxus johndoe66 Troy1 rjb__ renn0xtk9 _arktos75_ timvisher mewecoffeeX64 Suchorski cyborg-one ph8
[17:39] <silverhom> umkey
[17:39] <wlp1s1> *sigh*
[17:40] <jamie_1> gotta lover spammers.... not
[17:40] <miczac> !kickban prezz
[17:40] <xXEoflaOEXx> miczac, he left.
[17:40] <miczac> yeah, too slow
[17:41] <housekeeping> 2 classy 4 me
[17:41] <mizu_no_oto> well, was already kicked
[17:50] <toor> what ports does this client use?
[17:52] <MrP2> I have two computers both running 64 bit xubuntu 16.04.1 and I'm trying to get synergy to work. When I install with "apt install synergy," one computer will install 1.7.6-1~getdeb1 and the other will install 1.6.2-0ubuntu2 how can I get them on the same version?
[17:54] <xXEoflaOEXx> MrP2, Try apt-get update on one computer that is receiving synergy of 1.6.2.
[17:54] <MrP2> Same thing, shows 1.6.2 as the newest version
[17:55] <xXEoflaOEXx> MrP2, Maybe one computer does not have getdeb on it.
[17:56] <MrP2> xXEoflaOEXx, What is that/What does that mean?
[17:56] <xXEoflaOEXx> MrP2, That means one of the two computers does not have the getdeb repository to download synergy 1.7.6-1~getdeb1.
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> MrP2  are you using a ppa on one of the computers? a ppa is a non-official source
[17:57] <toor> Why is this IRC server not using an standard IRC port ? chat.freenode.net:8001
[17:58] <MrP2> I believe so. I am trying to add getdeb on the 1.6 pc real quick
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> toor  it's 6667
[17:58] <k1l> toor: freenode offers several different ports.
[17:59] <k1l> toor: maybe the guys from #freenode can answer your detailed questions on the irc service
[18:00] <toor> MrP2, how do I check? freenode says is listening on 8001
[18:00] <minimec> toor: If you use irc.freenode.net you would have your default port... ;)
[18:01] <k1l> toor: see https://freenode.net/kb/answer/chat
[18:01] <wedgie> chat.freenode.net does listen on 6667
[18:02] <MrP2> MonkeyDust, I've added getdeb and It's updated to 1.7.6 thanks so much!
[18:03] <toor> netstat says :
[18:03] <toor> tcp        0      0 10.0.2.15:41104         64.86.243.181:8001      ESTABLISHED 2565/xchat-gnome
[18:04] <wedgie> toor: do you have an ubuntu question?
[18:05] <CrazyTux> What are the advantages of installing Ubuntu OS rather than Unity DE?
[18:05] <k1l> CrazyTux: ubuntu ships with unity as standard desktop. your question doesnt make sense
[18:06] <CrazyTux> k1l, I'm using Xubuntu now. If I intend to use Unity do I need to reinstall the OS?
[18:07] <k1l> CrazyTux: ah ok. no you can install "ubuntu-desktop" which will install all the programs and unity and you can switch on the login screen between xfce and unity then
[18:08] <CrazyTux> k1l, ok. But, it'll be same as using Ubuntu?
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> MrP2  great
[18:09] <guillem_> hello there! first time trying an irc. I hope you all have a nice day!
[18:09] <k1l> CrazyTux: yes
[18:09] <CrazyTux> k1l, ok. Thanks a lot.
[18:13] <MrP2> MonkeyDust, would you by chance know how to get the "Browse Network" in thunar to work?
[18:21] <niko1990> Hello everyone =)
[18:21] <thechanceg> Since updating to 16.04 my mouse buttons 4 & 5 don't seem to be responding. Any ideas?
[18:22] <CrazyTux> how to move the Virtual Box to another partition on the HDD?
[18:23] <niko1990> Could someone recomend a program firewall (that asks me everythime a new program wants to connect to the internet)? I found something called lpfw (leopard flower) but i'm not sure if this is trust able and good... Thanks in advanced =)
[18:24] <minimec> CrazyTux: We answered that hours ago... ?!? http://pastebin.com/g8bJzxXV
[18:33] <jabir-pi> hi
[18:37] <ipwn> how do i make xscreensaver work w fortune??
[18:40] <chalcedony> my husband's computer has a warning on it: "The volume "boot" has only zero bytes disk space remaining" this doesn't sound good. Im not sure what to do?
[18:40] <chalcedony> he's running ubuntu 16.04
[18:40] <k1l> chalcedony: can you show a pastebin url of "df -h" in here?
[18:41] <chalcedony> k1l, ill try .. he never set up ssh server .. is it ok to start hexchat on there?
[18:42] <k1l> chalcedony: can you boot that machine and start the desktop?
[18:42] <chalcedony> k1l, it's running, i told him not to do anything on it till i asked
[18:43] <k1l> chalcedony: ok, we need to get a bit of informations  to work out the proper solution. so running " df -h | nc termbin.com 9999" will show a output url in the terminal. please show that here
[18:44] <k1l> chalcedony: and yes, starting hexchat there should work, too and do no harm.
[18:44] <warriordad> I'd like to set up an ubuntu server on my home network   ---    i bout an older dell but im a beginner   and good words?
[18:44] <chalcedony> k1l, is there a curl command that will let it print to pastebin?
[18:45] <chalcedony> warriordad, sounds like a great idea
[18:45] <k1l> chalcedony: my command already does this with the | (pipe) to termbin
[18:45] <chalcedony> ah OK
[18:45] <k1l> warriordad: install ubuntu server and start using it with ssh :)
[18:45] <warriordad> with ssh?
[18:46] <k1l> warriordad: that is how you usually manage the server
[18:46] <warriordad> ah ok
[18:46] <warriordad> writing this down   i know way old school lol
[18:47] <warriordad> gonna use a 2t external for storage
[18:48] <k1l> warriordad: keep in mind that external storage got slower data speeds due to the connection over usb
[18:49] <warriordad> ah ok   so i should go with internal?
[18:51] <thechanceg> Huh... I plugged in my mouse receiver dongle to another usb port and now buttons 4 & 5 are working... so problem solved I guess
[18:53] <chalcedony> k1l http://termbin.com/i6u3
[18:55] <k1l> chalcedony: ok, so you got a lvm there and a seperated /boot partition (sda1). that is where the kernels are put in. and that is 90% full.
[18:55] <k1l> chalcedony: can you please show the output url of "ls -al /boot |nc termbin.com 9999"
[18:56] <chalcedony> k1l, yes ok ill get that
[18:56] <DarkAceZ> I'm about to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04, but I don't have a place to back up my huge home folder to
[18:56] <DarkAceZ> how strongly is it recommended to have a backup before doing the install?
[18:56] <DarkAceZ> I'll be doing from the "livecd" (off of a flash drive)
[18:57] <ipwn> i want xscreensaver screensavers to display random text from fortune program, on xscreensaver there is a option for this under Advanced->Text Manipulation but it not works..
[18:57] <ipwn> i want xscreensaver screensavers to display random text from fortune program, on xscreensaver there is a option for this under Advanced->Text Manipulation but it not works.. does anybody knows how to make this work??
[18:57] <amer> how can i decrypt sage file ?
[18:58] <minimec> DarkAceZ: Is /home on a separate partition?
[18:59] <thechanceg> How important are your files & do you have them backed up at all DarkAceZ? FWIW, I just did that upgrade on two seperate systems, and both went fine.
[18:59] <chull> k1l, http://termbin.com/cq5k
[18:59] <DarkAceZ> minimec: no
[18:59] <chull> <-- chalcedony's hubby
[19:00] <DarkAceZ> I thought I'd just update my documents and some of my projects, but as I was selecting them, I realized I already had over 50GB lol
[19:00] <minimec> DarkAceZ: Hmm... Well... I would NOT recommend that. As you are using a 'flash drive', it is even more scary...
[19:00] <DarkAceZ> so I might just have to look for very specific things to back up and hope for the best
[19:00] <k1l> chull: ok, can you run in terminal "sudo apt autoremove" and does it remove something or does it just give an error?
[19:01] <DarkAceZ> minimec: perhaps you misunderstand, I'm installing/updating _from_ the USB flash drive which I believe is an option on the installer, but my current system is on an internal SSD
[19:02] <minimec> DarkAceZ: I do understand you, but if you want to upgrade, I would do it within the 14.04 installation.
[19:02] <chull> k1l, The following packages will be REMOVED:
[19:02] <chull>   gpsd kde-l10n-engb libcdaudio1 libgps22 libgrits5 librsl1 libslv2-9
[19:02] <chull>   linux-headers-4.4.0-53 linux-headers-4.4.0-53-generic
[19:02] <chull>   linux-image-4.4.0-53-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-53-generic
[19:02] <chull>   308 mg
[19:03] <DarkAceZ> minimec: ah, I see. I was told that it was more reliable to shut down the system and do it from another source (livecd)
[19:03] <k1l> chull: type yes
[19:03] <minimec> DarkAceZ: Imagine you have that question... 'replace 14.04 with 16.04'... Will it format the partition? I don't know...
[19:03] <chull> ok ty k1l
[19:04] <k1l> chull: when that is done, we remove need to remove an old 3.19 kernel, too. but first let apt do its work
[19:04] <chull> k1l, ok its working, thank you!
[19:05] <DarkAceZ> minimec: Okay, thank you, I'll look more into what's the best way to go about upgrading this
[19:06] <chull> k1l, it has an error: N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-old' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[19:07] <k1l> chull: does it stop? or is it just  warning and continuing
[19:07] <chull> k1l, that's the end
[19:08] <k1l> chull: sudo rm /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades.ucf-old      #that will remove that old file which causes that warning.
[19:08] <chull> k1l, oh great, we've been wondering what to do about that
[19:09] <k1l> chull: when that is done please run "dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here
[19:09] <Reox_> Hi everyone! I have just installed Ubuntu trusty 14.04 armhf in an Embedded device but I am facing a problem. The system boots up normally, but if I execute "apt-get" nothing happens, no error of command not found, just empty output, any idea of where to look for information?. I can ping to the internet, so it shouldnt be a problem with the conexion
[19:09] <chull> k1l, okies ty
[19:11] <chull> k1l, http://termbin.com/s68m
[19:12] <k1l> chull: sudo apt purge linux-image-3.19.0-77-generic
[19:12] <minimec> Reox_: You do 'sudo apt-get *something*' right?
[19:12] <EriC^^> Reox_: try running the full command, sudo /usr/bin/apt-get update
[19:12] <chull> k1l, ok
[19:13] <Reox_> The same behaviour, nothing. Empty output
[19:14] <chull> k1l, it's done :)
[19:14] <k1l> chull: ok, your system should be good now
[19:14] <EriC^^> Reox_: does it do anything without using sudo? just /usr/bin/apt-get ?
[19:15] <chull> k1l, is this behavior something we should do something to prevent happening in the future?
[19:15] <Reox_> unfortunately same results
[19:16] <k1l> chull: the issue here was, that a 3.19 kernel was still installed from before the upgrade to 16.04. that meant it was blocking some space in /boot. now that should do fine itself again.
[19:17] <Reox_> even if i just write "apt-get" there is no outupt about the usage of the command
[19:17] <minimec> Reox_: 'ls /usr/bin/apt*'
[19:17] <mircx1> Reox
[19:17] <mircx1> maybe i can help to you
[19:18] <mircx1> you have problem with update?
[19:18] <chull> k1l, ah i see! thank you very much! have a lovely day :)
[19:18] <Reox_> /usr/bin/apt         /usr/bin/apt-extracttemplates  /usr/bin/apt-mark
[19:18] <Reox_> /usr/bin/apt-cache   /usr/bin/apt-ftparchive        /usr/bin/apt-sortpkgs
[19:18] <Reox_> /usr/bin/apt-cdrom   /usr/bin/apt-get
[19:18] <Reox_> /usr/bin/apt-config  /usr/bin/apt-key
[19:18] <minimec> Reox_: Ok. 'sudo apt update'
[19:19] <k1l> Reox_: is that a snappy core install?
[19:19] <minimec> Reox_: If that doesn't work, your user is not in the sudo list.
[19:20] <wadie> question about environment variables
[19:20] <wadie> I did a export electron=./node_modules/.bin/electron
[19:20] <wadie> but executing electron command return command not found
[19:20] <wadie> any ideas ?
[19:21] <akik> wadie: replace export with alias
[19:21] <Reox_> @minimec http://www.armhf.com/download/ ubuntu-trusty-14.04-armhf.com-20140603.tar.xz (June 3, 2014)
[19:21] <EriC^^> wadie: you want "alias electron='/path/to/node_modules/.bin/electron'"
[19:21] <wadie> what is path to ? if tit's /.node_modules
[19:21] <EriC^^> wadie: ./ won't cut it, you need the full path or you'd have to run it in the relative path every time
[19:21] <wadie> ./
[19:22] <mypcisfun> hello,can i ubuntu install on efi32 laptop?
[19:22] <EriC^^> wadie: browse to the file and run readlink -f electron and it should say
[19:22] <mypcisfun> sorry, install ubuntu
[19:22] <EriC^^> mypcisfun: yes, not by default though you need to modify the installer
[19:23] <EriC^^> mypcisfun: look for guides on google for the specific laptop
[19:24] <minimec> Reox_: How do you install that version? Do you 'dd' it on the drive and have a install wizard on first boot?
[19:24] <wadie> mypcisfun, alias seems to be working for a session only..
[19:24] <wadie> I want it permanent
[19:25] <EriC^^> wadie: add it to ~/.bashrc
[19:27] <wadie> working,thanks!!
[19:27] <wadie> even though I don't like editing files much :/
[19:27] <wadie> can end up having a messy ubuntu installation
[19:27] <Reox_> Just untar the rootfs in the second partition of the SD and the kernel loaded it
[19:29] <Term1nal> Is there a way I can enable diffie-hellman-group1-sha1 in my SSH configuration as to avoid appending the -oKexAlgorithms flag to every SSH command I input (for ssh into old devices that still offer this exchange protocol).
[19:30] <minimec> Reox_: ok. Do you have a graphical environment? Do you had some 'first run' wizard to create a user, or does that image come with a default user? What does 'sudo -i' give you?
[19:30] <Term1nal> It is similarly inhibiting my ability to add the endpoint to my Nautilus to browse the filesystem over SFTP, since there's no way in which to specify that key exchange algorithm with Nautilus.
[19:31] <tomreyn> Term1nal: you can have host profiles in your ~/.ssh/config for this purpose. wildcards work there, too.
[19:31] <Reox_> I am working connected with serial
[19:31] <Reox_> sudo -i give no output
[19:31] <Term1nal> Host * is specified in my system-wide SSH configuration, however, I still cannot connect without appending the -oKexAlgorithms flag
[19:31] <bekks> It isnt intended to give you output.
[19:32] <bekks> It gives you a root shell.
[19:32] <Reox_> I am going to recopy the rootfs i think that i have change someting in the first boot up
[19:32] <minimec> Reox_: so sudo -i doesn't give you 'root@<yourmachine>'
[19:32] <bekks> Reox_: ?
[19:33] <tomreyn> Term1nal: and you have "KexAlgorithms +diffie-hellman-group1-sha1" below that "Host *" line?
[19:33] <Reox_> no
[19:33] <Reox_> yes, sorry
[19:33] <Reox_> but i was already root, so no change
[19:33] <bekks> so using sudo -i is nonsense, then.
[19:34] <socket-work> Hey all,  so I have this 6 liner script ( http://apaste.info/9AMfK ). When I copy and paste all 6 lines into a shell it seems to only execute the first 2 lines, i look at my command history, and indeed only the first 2 lines were ran.  Is there something about using the -y flag that prevents succeeding instructions from being executed?
[19:34] <tomreyn> Term1nal: just to make sure you don't miss this fact: this degreades the security of your ssh authentication and  the right way to fix it is not to work around it this way but to upgrade the remote endpoint to support a current key echange mechanism
[19:35] <Term1nal> tomreyn: I am well aware, it's an old embedded device that I'm trying to upgrade
[19:35] <Term1nal> tomreyn: I did add that below that line, yes.
[19:36] <minimec> Reox_: do you have internet access? Can you like 'ping irc.freenode.net'?
[19:37] <tomreyn> Term1nal: hmm i haven't actually tried this myself, so all i can suggest there is to use ssh with -vvv
[19:37] <tomreyn> ..for debugging purposes
[19:38] <Reox_> yes, I can ping google.com
[19:38] <Reox_> fixed, as always human error.
[19:40] <Reox_> I have mess up with the rights
[19:40] <Reox_> new root fs (the same original one) and its working
[19:41] <minimec> Reox_: Really strange. 1. Software is installed, 2. you are 'root', 3. internet access is verified... 4. 14.04 doesn't have a 'ubuntu core' version (i think'). I see no reason for 'apt-get' not to run... Do you get at least something if you type 'apt-get --help'?
[19:42] <minimec> Reox_: Oh I see your message right now... ;)
[19:45] <royal_screwup21> Hey all!
[19:47] <royal_screwup21> I want to find the size of a website via the terminal. Is there an in-built command or a package that would allow me to accomplish this?
[19:47] <teward> royal_screwup21: what do you mean by 'the size of a website'?
[19:50] <royal_screwup21> teward Well, I'm planning to download a website using the "wget" function and I need to know if its total file capacity fits within my available space
[19:51] <royal_screwup21> I'm not exactly sure how the size is measured, but I assume all of its webpages will be stored in the form of files
[19:52] <noname> hi guys
[19:53] <royal_screwup21> teward Any ideas?
[19:54] <teward> royal_screwup21: if you don't have access to the files yet because you haven't downloaded it, there's no real way to guess the file size
[19:54] <teward> since downloading a website and its resources isn't really enumerable until it's downloaded.
[19:55] <wedgie> royal_screwup21: might ask in #wget if wget has a way to enumerate the file sizes without downloading them. --spider sounds vaguely related, but not sure how to apply that to your problem
[19:55] <k1l> royal_screwup21: and its not really a working clone since today there are not real static webpages but the stuff is dynamic.
[19:58] <royal_screwup21> k1l: Ah, that makes sense.  But what if I wanted to download something like, say, Britannica (or any other info-based website)?
[20:01] <royal_screwup21> I'm assuming such websites (like wikipedia, britannica) are mostly static, but I might be wrong
[20:04] <Random832> i can tell you right now you don't have enough space to download all of wikipedia
[20:04] <kyle__> Theoretically, if you wanted to see the source for a sample util, you should be able to to to packages.ubuntu.com/<releasename>/<packagename> and find it in the "Download Source Package" section, right?
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> kyle__  or use    apt download [package]
[20:08] <kyle__> MonkeyDust: Hrumm.  Because I'm trying to find the source for pico2wave from libpicotts-utils
[20:08] <kyle__> Err, libttspico-utils rather.  And nothing in the links have it in there.
[20:09] <k1l> kyle__: svox is the source package
[20:10] <kyle__> k1l: Yeah, but it's not in here.
[20:10] <kyle__> In the orig.tar.gz or the .debian.tar.gz
[20:10] <k1l> kyle__: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libttspico-utils  lists the source package at the top of the page
[20:11] <kyle__> k1l: The source for pico2wav isn't in those files is what I'm saying.
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> !find libttspico-utils
[20:17] <k1l> kyle__: it should be in the svox source files
[20:18] <kyle__> k1l: It's not though.  I grabbed the tarball.  I grabed the git from the android site.  I grabbed the git from the debian site.
[20:19] <kyle__> The lib isn't very well documented so I just wanted to read the source for that little demo-app to figure out how to use it :)
[20:19] <k1l> do they ship that just as a binary? i dont know about pico2wave
[20:20] <wedgie> what's the license on it?
[20:20] <kyle__> When you install the -utils package you get the pico2wave binary
[20:21] <kyle__> Apache I think....
[20:22] <kyle__> From what I downloaed via git, the source files have the pache license version 2.0 at the top of each file.
[20:26] <Apachez> do there exist a netinstall of ubuntu for raspberry pi 2 and 3?
[20:26] <nazmulwanted> hello everyone... new to this channel
[20:27] <kyle__> Apachez: I doubt it.  I"m not positive for the 3, but I know the rasperry pi A/B, 2, and nano can't netboot.  They can only boot from SD card.
[20:28] <k1l> Apachez: i dont know if that rpi can do netinstall. usually you just put the image file onto the sdcard
[20:28] <Apachez> well or at least like the raspbian netinstall
[20:28] <Apachez> that is a 32mb image onto sd card to boot from and fetch the rest through network
[20:28] <Apachez> so you only install what you want
[20:28] <Apachez> I have located some outdated 16.04 images at ubuntu homepage
[20:28] <Apachez> but not a word of 16.10 which sucks
[20:30] <markus-k> hi. What would you guys suggest for installing a few identical Ubuntu servers? Running through the installer by hand everytime is sorta annoying and time consuming. And just cloning the filesystem is probably not the best idea due to duplicate ssh host keys etc
[20:31] <tgm4883> markus-k: puppet
[20:31] <teward> ^ that
[20:32] <markus-k> for installing ubuntu to bare metal? Haven't used Puppet before
[20:32] <bekks> markus-k: a plain kickstart file and a tftp boot server.
[20:33] <housekeeping> is there a 3 finger solute for linux?
[20:33] <tgm4883> yea puppets not going to work for that
[20:33] <tgm4883> housekeeping: ctrl+alt+delete
[20:33] <tgm4883> housekeeping: or ctrl+break+REISUB if it's a kernel panic
[20:34] <tgm4883> ok
[20:34] <kyle__> markus-k: preseed.
[20:35] <kyle__> markus-k: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/apb.html
[20:35] <kyle__> markus-k: We use preseed and pxeboot for our servers at work.  Going with both is WAY overboard for home, but you can specify a preseed from the stock installer :)
[20:36] <Guest88049> c
[20:36] <Layl> Heya, on PulseAudio, my sound card seems to not listen at all to the configured Output Device volume
[20:37] <Layl> 0% volume will be muted, 1%, 50%, 75%, 100% will all be 100%, 150% will be 150%
[20:37] <Layl> for obvious reasons my ears don't like this
[20:37] <Layl> Anyone got a fix?
[20:39] <markus-k> kyle__ yep, looked at preseeds before but wasn't sure if it's any good for the purpose, probably one of the better solutions. thank you.
[20:40] <housekeeping> tgm4883, ty
[20:49] <kyle__> markus-k: I use them all the time.  I have literally hundreds of physical servers installed with them right now.  They are horrible compared to what you can do with redhat kickstart, except that with kickstart you have to use RHEL or one of the RHEL clones.  Which is whyI don't use that ;)
[20:52] <markus-k> kyle__: I really should too. Installed 7 servers at work by hand, that got boring kinda quickly. Only problem is, the nics are all LACP bonded with a few vlans on it, not sure if the bios can actually pxe boot from that and i didn't get the network working in the installer at that time
[20:53] <Layl> Anyone got an idea for my pulseaudio issue?
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> Layl  if you don't get an answer here, try in #ubuntustudio
[20:54] <ioria> kyle__,  pico2wave.c in (apt-get source svox) in  /pico/bin
[20:55] <kyle__> markus-k: The bios probably can pxeboot (almost all can nowdays), but the bigger issue will be getting the switch to allow a single, non-LACP connection to boot and run, and then autodetect the change to LACP when you bond it later on.
[20:55] <kyle__> My network admin found some nifty settings and did that for me, but I have no idea what black magicks she performs to make it work.
[20:55] <kyle__> She stays on her side of the switch, I stay on mine.
[21:00] <countingdaisies> does anyone know what privacydotlink is? I can't find anything directly about what it is.
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> countingdaisies  this is ubunt support
[21:00] <k1l> countingdaisies: in what context?
[21:01] <theseb> easy to replace pinentry-gnome3 with pinentry-gtk3 for debugging purposes? how?
[21:02] <hurvin> ftp server ubuntu server ?
[21:03] <hurvin> Any software other than proftpd nor vsftpd
[21:04] <Southern_Gentlem> hurvin,  why a ftp server at all you have ssh so you can sftp
[21:04] <kyle__> hurvin: apt-cache search ftpd
[21:04] <hurvin> thanks kyle__
[21:05] <k1l> hurvin: dont use ftp its not encrypted. use sftp.
[21:05] <countingdaisies> "PrivacyDotLink Customer ..." seems to show up in the Registrant Name field of whois searches - with a 6 gidit number appended to it. If it is some kind of anonymity service it must be elite bc there is not web site with that domain and searches do not indicate a way to sign up. Is it part of tld scheme with icann or something?
[21:06] <k1l> countingdaisies: that is not related to ubuntu support. please ask those questions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:07] <kyle__> countingdaisies: THere are a number of privacy services like that out there, for domain registration.  They kindof suck, and are kindof skeezy, but they have their place.  Nothing elite about them.
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[21:13] <markus-k> kyle__: Are you creating preseed files by hand, e.g. from the example-preseed, or some kind of generated form from a hand install?
[21:13] <voldz1tic3n> prezz: which one?
[21:15] <beardedeagle> What is this shit
[21:15] <kyle__> markus-k: We're generating them using some ugly chef recipes, but it's not bad. You could do it by hand without much difficulty.
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> beardedeagle  mind your language
[21:15] <k1l> dont mind the troll, he is already kicked out of the irc server, voldz1tic3n beardedeagle
[21:16] <beardedeagle> noted MonkeyDust, and thanks for the update k1l
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[21:33] <eternal-pain> the hell is up here?
[21:35] <donofrio> 0.o
[21:39] <zamanf> how can I block all non-vpn traffic on ubuntu?
[21:40] <turej> the xubuntu installer asks for a wifi connection in order to get "third party software" amongst other things. my question is: will i be allowed to choose which third party software to download or will it get it all on it's own?
[21:41] <doux> After creating a persistent usb drive, and a new user, can I get rid of the ubuntu@ubuntu user that has sudo privileges? I don't want to have a user with no password on my Ubuntu persistent USB drive...
[21:41] <doux> 16.04
[21:41] <doux> mkusb
[21:43] <zamanf> is it possible to stop DNS leaks on ubuntu?
[21:44] <doux> or is ubuntu@ubuntu the root user on Live distro?
[21:46] <noc__> turej, it "will get it on its own" but it's pretty standard stuff, what is the issue?
[21:47] <turej> noc__: what kind of standard software are we talking here, is there a list of it
[21:47] <doux> is ubuntu@ubuntu on a live USB just another user with sudo priviledges?
[21:49] <doux> I guess everyone is watching that thing with that guy driving down the street...
[21:49] <noc__> turej, its called ubuntu-restricted-extras, list is browseable at http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/ubuntu-restricted-extras and http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/ubuntu-restricted-addons
[21:50] <turej> ah thank you noc__, you performed that action which many at #ubuntu had not the necessary foresight to do
[21:51] <noc__> most users here are fellow users helping as volunteers, not paid workers for customer support, many just lurk here t learn about ubuntu, so don't expect anything
[21:51] <doux> noc__: understood.
[21:56] <theseb> easy to replace pinentry-gnome3 with pinentry-gtk3 for debugging?
[22:01] <lucas-arg> hey all any one could connect a samsung s7 with mtp??
[22:01] <lucas-arg> i cant get mine connected/mounted
[22:06] <aruns> Hi.
[22:06] <aruns> I am running Ubuntu 16.04.
[22:06] <aruns> I appear to have messed up permissions for /usr/bin
[22:06] <aruns> And do not particularly want to have to reinstall.
[22:06] <Random832> aruns, does sudo work?
[22:06] <bekks> aruns: What have you done, in detail?
[22:06] <aruns> Random832: It does not
[22:07] <Random832> do you have any existing root shell already open
[22:07] <bekks> aruns: What have you done, in detail?
[22:07] <aruns> I can boot into recovery mode and open a shell as root.
[22:08] <zamanf> how do you stop dns leaks on ubuntu?
[22:08] <Random832> ah so you don't mind rebooting
[22:08] <aruns> bekks: Ran a recursive chown command about a week ago or so for my user, losing access to sudo for that user.
[22:08] <bekks> zamanf: What are dns leaks?
[22:08] <bekks> aruns: which command in particular?
[22:08] <Random832> ok so you've messed up ownership in addition to permissions
[22:08] <k1l> aruns: with recursive chown there is no help besides reinstall.
[22:08] <zamanf> bekks, ... long story
[22:08] <aruns> bekks: chown -R *myuser*:*myuser* /usr/bin
[22:08] <bekks> Cool, you messed it up. Reinstall.
[22:09] <aruns> I said that I don't want to have to reinstall.
[22:09] <bekks> aruns: You have to, despite what you want.
[22:09] <aruns> bekks: I am able to recover sudo access.
[22:10] <aruns> Would I not be able to change file permissions for each executable?
[22:10] <bekks> aruns: Thats irrelevant, since you need to MANUALLY restore the permissions and ownerships of every single file under /usr/bin. Several thousands.
[22:10] <k1l> aruns: it means you need to look up every permission file by file, folder by folder. this is in no way worth the effort.
[22:10] <aruns> Ah OK.
[22:10] <aruns> Alternatively.
[22:10] <aruns> Could I not boot a live Ubuntu CD
[22:11] <bekks> aruns: To shorten it up: No.
[22:11] <aruns> OK, thanks.
[22:11] <Random832> bekks, don't be so melodramatic, there are only a handful that aren't 0755 root.
[22:11] <Random832> dammit he left
[22:12] <Random832> jesus people it's /usr/bin not /
[22:12] <noc__> agree, on my system it's everything root:root except a couple dozen files
[22:12] <Random832> recursive doesn't even matter, /usr/bin doesn't have any subdirectories
[22:14] <Random832> don't know why you asked what he did in detail if you were gonna scare him off like that no matter what it actually was
[22:14] <bekks> Random832: I asked what he did in detail because his initial message was like "I did something, now my car does drive anymore".
[22:15] <bekks> If I'd know that you have glass orb, I'd not even considered asking him.
[22:16] <Random832> even if he'd done it a worse place, he could still probably have recovered by reinstalling all packages without having to do a fresh install.
[22:17] <bekks> For the sake of wasting time, I guess?
[22:30] <haled> I want to have ubuntu server on a USB flash drive so that it won't behave as an installation media, but rather an installed OS. How do I achieve this?
[22:34] <bekks> haled: Plug in an install medium, plug in your usb flash drive, and do a regular install onto the flash drive.
[22:37] <rypervenche> Random832: Welp, now we know for next time :)
[22:38] <lucas-arg> help mounting mtp files, using MM under Ubuntu 16.10 libmtp 1.1.12 wont mount correctly my samsung s7
[22:38] <lucas-arg> any clues??
[22:41] <cipher6> lucas-arg: I went through this issue recently, it was mounted like 15 files deep. Does the Samsung S7 show up in the Unity dock?
[22:42] <ZJAY> can i insatll a .pdf file or .eps file as a font?
[22:44] <cipher6> lucas-arg: are you seeing my response?
[22:44] <lucas-arg> cipher6, it does why i have gvfs-backends installed
[22:44] <cipher6> lucas-arg: I don't understand your question.
[22:45] <lucas-arg> cipher6, but it does not let me transfer files correctly
[22:45] <sylar> Which egrep command will allow me to output the words with that many characters as specified in the arguement of a basic script?
[22:46] <lucas-arg> cipher6, ubuntu mounts mtp, but it does not let me write more than 125 files. and it does not let me delete files from sdcard i can see them, but not much, i tried go-mtpfs jmtpfs uninstelled gvfs-backends etc but cant make it work corectly
[22:46] <lucas-arg> cipher6, i imagine libmtp 1.1.13 could make my s7 work but i cant find that version in repos
[22:46] <cipher6> lucas-arg: What kind of file are you transferring, and where are you sending it to?
[22:46] <k1l> lucas-arg: are you sure the android device is handling that correctly?
[22:46] <lucas-arg> i guess it is
[22:47] <lucas-arg> in fedora i use simple-mtpfs and it works ok
[22:47] <cipher6> lucas-arg: Also, i'm using a S7 with 16.04LTS stock, no special software installed, and it allows me to do file transfers fine,
[22:47] <lucas-arg> in ubuntu i cant make it work ok
[22:47] <cipher6> lucas-arg: is the phone set to MTP?
[22:47] <haled> bekks, thanks. Can I boot via virtualbox for this?
[22:47] <lucas-arg> cipher6, yes
[22:47] <cipher6> lucas-arg: what version of linux are you running?
[22:47] <lucas-arg> cipher6, ubuntu 16.10
[22:48] <k1l> lucas-arg: mtp-tools installed and that works with all my devices.
[22:48] <lucas-arg> its installed
[22:48] <k1l> lucas-arg: using nautilus
[22:48] <lucas-arg> using nautilis and terminal
[22:49] <lucas-arg> whatever i use
[22:49] <lucas-arg> cant copy more than 125 files
[22:49] <cipher6> lucas-arg: but you can transfer some files
[22:49] <absurdist> shaka when the walls fell
[22:49] <lucas-arg> cipher6, yeah
[22:49] <cipher6> lucas-arg: What kind of file, and where are you putting it on the phone?
[22:50] <reisio> lucas-arg: https://www.google.com/search?q=samsung%20s7%20enable%20usb%20mass%20storage
[22:50] <reisio> lucas-arg: or just use wireless transfers, as it was designed to use
[22:51] <lucas-arg> cipher6, 155 files mp3s
[22:51] <lucas-arg> reisio, it would take me years to transfer files with wifi
[22:52] <cipher6> lucas-arg: Are you sure the phone has space for all the files? (Starting with the most basic issue I can think of and working up from there)
[22:52] <lucas-arg> cipher6, it has
[22:53] <lostindark||> hi
[22:53] <sylar>  Which egrep command will allow me to output the words with that many
[22:53] <sylar> +characters as specified in the arguement of a basic script?
[22:53] <lostindark||> html editor plz
[22:53] <tgm4883> sylar: huh?
[22:54] <ZJAY> can I install a .eps or .pdf font style image as a font?
[22:54] <sylar> See i want to output those words in the /usr/share/dict/words file which is specified in a basic script arguement. so which egrep command to use for that?
[22:54] <k1l> ZJAY: pdf or eps are not font formats
[22:55] <tgm4883> sylar: you want to output the words that have a specific number of characters?
[22:55] <sylar> yea
[22:56] <ZJAY> this is what i wanted to install as a font= http://www.freepik.com/free-vector/neon-alphabet-with-symbols_946986.htm
[22:57] <ZJAY> so your saying that it is just a pretty picture then
[22:57] <k1l> ZJAY: no, doesnt work
[22:57] <k1l> ZJAY: yes
[22:57] <ZJAY> made to look like a font  or .ttf
[22:57] <ZJAY> ok
[22:57] <ZJAY>  ty
[22:58] <ZJAY> palm faces himself says "this sux"
[22:58] <k1l> ZJAY: looks like they want to sell you something on that page. so maybe they offer a proper formated file for paying customers
[22:59] <sylar> well anyone?
[22:59] <ZJAY> fonts are made to be free like butterflies
[22:59] <ZJAY> lol
[22:59] <ZJAY> thanks k1l
[23:02] <tgm4883> sylar: awk '{ if (length($1) == 4 ) print }' /usr/share/dict/words
[23:02] <tgm4883> sylar: that would do 4 letter words
[23:02] <sylar> can i do it using the egrep command?
[23:03] <tgm4883> sylar: why not use the command I just gave you?
[23:03] <sylar> I was trying my hand at egrep and stuff , so i just thought whether it would be possible with that also or not
[23:03] <tgm4883> sylar: yes it's possible
[23:04] <sylar> fairly new to linux as u can see :P
[23:04] <sylar> what would it be in that case?
[23:04] <tgm4883> sylar: you'd need to find the regex for that
[23:05] <sylar> can you tell me the difference between awk and egrep?
[23:05] <tgm4883> sylar: they are both different programs typically used for pattern matching
[23:06] <sylar> is one more efficient than the other or something like that?
[23:06] <tgm4883> sylar: no idea
[23:06] <tgm4883> sylar: usually I just use grep
[23:07] <riflex> hey
[23:07] <sylar> okay i will try it using the awk command , i didnt know that before
[23:07] <riflex> german linux user here?
[23:07] <sylar> tgm4883: thanks
[23:07] <tgm4883> !de | riflex
[23:08] <rpifan> i need to mount a vfat drive and give it permission of 0770, i have made changes in the fstab but it still mounts with persion of 0775, what can i do to get it to work right
[23:09] <reisio> sylar: wha?
[23:09] <reisio> 155 mp3s? he would've finished already with just wifi, ages ago
[23:10] <reisio> poor people living in denial, no one can save them
[23:10] <rypervenche> sylar: Each program has its strengths and weaknesses.
[23:10] <reisio> except for /usr/bin/blade
[23:10] <reisio> blade has all the strengths, and none of the weaknesses
[23:11] <tomreyn> rpifan: try umask=000 mount option
[23:12] <riflex> hey german user here aswell?
[23:12] <rpifan> how do i get it remount iwth fstab without rebooting
[23:12] <reisio> mount -o remount
[23:12] <reisio> riflex: part german count?
[23:13] <reisio> btw, you germans should eat less meat & dairy, it's bad for you
[23:13] <reisio> and isn't great for everyone else, either :)
[23:13] <riflex> well it count but i'm looking for a german mentor :)
[23:14] <riflex> s
[23:14] <tomreyn> riflex: read the message ubottu addressed to you - scroll up.
[23:14] <reisio> riflex: your english seems fine, not that I would fault you for wanting to converse in your own language
[23:16] <riflex> well i'm able to communitcate in english aswell but my accent is horrible
[23:17] <Americanu> Hello
[23:17] <Americanu> Anybody around ?
[23:17] <riflex> yeah
[23:17] <Americanu> Right so i need a bit of help
[23:18] <rpifan> tomreyn: Please change the permissions to 0770 so that the directory cannot be listed by other users.
[23:18] <Americanu> Im having a usb stick 3.0 with ubuntu on it 16.04 and when i try to boot it it says : initramfs unable to find medium containing live file system
[23:18] <rpifan> with umask 000 i get permissions of 0777
[23:19] <Americanu> Anybody knows here how to get rid of this error?
[23:20] <tomreyn> rpifan: oh sorry i thought you had asked for 0777. so if you need 0770 then your umask should be the opposite of that, so umask=007
[23:20] <geirha> rpifan: umask 007
[23:21] <Americanu> Well...nobody?
[23:21] <tomreyn> Americanu: re-do the usb stick, it probably did not get written properly. before you do this, you may want to do the media check.
[23:21] <Americanu> I wrote it several times
[23:21] <Americanu> Twice with rufus and once with unetbootin
[23:21] <Americanu> :(
[23:22] <k1l> Americanu: did you check the md5sum of the .iso?
[23:22] <rpifan> no im going to guess this is going to cause problems when i need another user to have read write to that same directory right?
[23:22] <Americanu> Ill try to see if the iso downloaded corectly but i doubt it didnt
[23:23] <geirha> rpifan: create a group, set group as group owner. Any user you add to that group will get read and write access
[23:23] <Americanu> No i didnt check the md5sum
[23:23] <rpifan> the issue is that nextcloud want exclusive access to that whole fat drive
[23:23] <rpifan> Data directory (/media/hosteddrive/nextcloud/data) is readable by other users
[23:23] <rpifan> Please change the permissions to 0770 so that the directory cannot be listed by other users.
[23:24] <riflex> i'm a linux-rookie...any advice so i can increase my learning curve?
[23:25] <franzer> riflex: depends what you want to do
[23:26] <riflex> i'm focusing on kali linux
[23:26] <riflex> and all its potial
[23:26] <tomreyn> !verify check this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck and this | Americanu
[23:27] <rpifan> geirha: can i just add a user to the www-data group and that would allow the www-data and whatever user to work?
[23:27] <rypervenche> riflex: /query riflex
[23:27] <rypervenche> derp
[23:27] <tomreyn> Americanu check this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck and this:
[23:27] <tomreyn> !verify |  | Americanu
[23:27] <Americanu> Thx tomreyn
[23:27] <Americanu> I will
[23:27] <k1l> !kali | riflex
[23:27] <rypervenche> riflex: This is going outside of Ubuntu support, but learn the command line and how to use the OS in general.
[23:28] <riflex> well i'm a noob thats why i choose ubuntu
[23:28] <tomreyn> !terminal | riflex
[23:28] <skrp> video performance is atrocious for a reason i can't explain. Steam/Minecraft(java) what can i do to fix it? ive done 0 mod, ubuntu found the driver automatically http://pastebin.com/raw/zt2WMHYy
[23:29] <ubaba> hi, ls -la /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/char/tpm gives 8 .ko files but when I modprobe any of them it gives eg. modprobe: FATAL: Module tpm_atmel.ko not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.0-59-generic
[23:29] <reisio> skrp: 'java', you just said, that's the reason
[23:29] <reisio> other reasons: steam
[23:29] <reisio> yet more reasons: games written by 10-year-olds
[23:29] <k1l> ubaba: what is inside "/lib/modules/4.4.0-59-generic"?
[23:29] <sylar> tgm4883: what if the length is unknown to me and is determined by the user who runs it? what then?
[23:29] <ubaba> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  4096 jan   12 22:57 . drwxr-xr-x 9 root root  4096 jan   12 22:57 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root  4096 jan   12 22:57 st33zp24 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11814 jan    7 01:45 tpm_atmel.ko -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13414 jan    7 01:45 tpm_crb.ko -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11942 jan    7 01:45 tpm_i2c_atmel.ko -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16270 jan    7 01:45 tpm_i2c_infineon.ko -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21798 jan    7 01:45 tpm_i2c_nuvo
[23:30] <tomreyn> !paste | ubaba
[23:30] <k1l> ubaba: please use a pastebin service
[23:30] <skrp> reisio, i can't tell if you are a troll
[23:30] <ubaba> sorry
[23:30] <k1l> skrp: you are using noveau. go to system settings, software & updates , then last tab. then install the nvidia driver there
[23:31] <ubaba> http://pastebin.com/FppaPfrk
[23:31] <Speiros> :D
[23:31] <k1l> ubaba: no. not there
[23:31] <k1l> ubaba: the folder i asked for
[23:32] <skrp> k1l, alright, i thought noveau was the preferred method
[23:32] <mib> hi , remove unused modules ? is that okay ?
[23:32] <ubaba> http://pastebin.com/krhX59Tu
[23:32] <sylar> how to alter awk '{ if (length($1)==4) print } /usr/share/dict/words to the length being variable ,depending on what the user enters?
[23:33] <theseb> how change an alternative?
[23:33] <theseb> i'm thinking of the /etc/alternatives stuff
[23:34] <tomreyn> sylar: if the lenght is variable, then why would you test for the length?
[23:34] <reisio> skrp: it'd help if you knew what a troll was
[23:35] <Chucara> How do I free up space on /boot when I can't seem to run apt-get remove? (Trying advice from here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/345588/what-is-the-safest-way-to-clean-up-boot-partition)
[23:35] <skrp> someone that isn't constructive? calling mojang 10 year olds...
[23:36] <skrp> i came here for help not opinions reisio same reason i ignored you in #linux
[23:36] <sylar> tomreyn: okay so what do i do then? like i want to output those words whose no. of characters is given by the user .
[23:36] <tomreyn> reisio, skirp: this discussion does not belong here, please move it elsewhere.
[23:37] <reisio> mojang?
[23:37] <skrp> mojang the coders of minecraft
[23:37] <Chucara> When I run 'sudo apt-get remove linux-image-4.4.0-21-generic', I get: You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[23:38] <tomreyn> sylar: please post an example to a pastebin, i'm not following.
[23:38] <rypervenche> skrp: Well, you want the proprietary drivers if you want MC to work well.
[23:39] <reisio> well it's in Java™, kinda goes without saying
[23:39] <rypervenche> skrp: And java 8, openjdk works fine with it.
[23:40] <Loshki> Chucara: What about the section entitled "NOTE: this is only if you can't use apt to clean up due to a 100% full /boot"
[23:41] <sylar> okay alright see , i am making a basic script so that if a number is supplied as a first arguement then it will select only those words with that many characters .
[23:41] <tomreyn> Chucara: in a temrinal, run 'dpkg -l linux-image\* | grep ^i', this will provide a list of packaged kernel image which are currently installed. you can then run: "dpkg --purge NAMEOFPACKAGEDKERNEL" to remove a given package (replace NAMEOFPACKAGEDKERNEL by one of the kernel image packages listed on the 'dpkg -l ...' output).
[23:41] <k1l> ubaba: did you try with fullpath?
[23:42] <sylar> so whats the command using egrep or awk for doing that?
[23:42] <skrp> rypervenche, thanks i appreciate that advice
[23:42] <Chucara> Loshki: Just outside of scroll view. Usually the accepted answer is the way to go, my mistake.
[23:42] <Americanu> Lol hashes are not similar
[23:42] <sylar> and the word comes from /usr/share/dict/words
[23:43] <Americanu> Thats the first time it happened to me
[23:43] <ubaba> k1l net yet (I am not aware that option yet) but just a sec and I am trying
[23:43] <Loshki> Chucara: :-) Let's hope it works as described
[23:44] <tomreyn> sylar: so you pass the amount of characters to a script as first command line argument. how do you pass the text to be filtered?
[23:44] <Chucara> tomreyn: Ok, can I safely remove any images older than what I currently have? (4.4.0-24)
[23:45] <tomreyn> Chucara: yes, if your currently running kernel (cat /proc/version) runs reliably, then you can remove all others.
[23:45] <sylar> tomreyn: the text comes from /usr/share/dict/words
[23:45] <tomreyn> Chucara: common practice is to remove all but the current and the two most recent.
[23:47] <kk4ewt> 1 plus 2 backups in case the kernel maintainers screwup you are not totally hosed
[23:47] <Chucara> Ahh. Is this something I should be doing regularly?
[23:48] <ubaba> k1l thank you so insmod is the way (but why does not modprobe work?)
[23:49] <tomreyn> sylar: CHARACTERS=$1; grep -Eo '[:alnum:]{'"${CHARACTERS}"'}' /usr/share/dict/words
[23:50] <sylar> tomreyn: what does that Eo do?
[23:50] <tomreyn> sylar: write this to a new file MYFILE, make this file executable (chmod +x /path/to/MYFILE) and run it as "./MYFILE 7"
[23:51] <tomreyn> sylar: E = extended regular expression syntax, o = only return what is matching the given regular expression, not the entire line where a match is found.
[23:52] <CoderEurope> Anyone want a quick chat about Ubuntu ? Note this is jitsi-meet which is completely open source: https://meet.schrodingersscat.com/LoyalOctopodesDiscussFinely
[23:52] <tomreyn> sylar: check the grep man page, too, run: man grep
[23:52] <sylar> tomreyn: i did and i was trying to understand how to do it after reading but i couldnt get it.. :/ new to this as u can see
[23:53] <ubaba> k1l 1 more question: if modprobe unable to load the kernel mod of the tpm just the insmod is capable of it, WILL the /etc/modules work at boot?
[23:53] <tomreyn> sylar: regular expressions come with a steep learning curve initally, it's entirely normal. you would probably run into more educated shell scripters in #bash
[23:54] <Chucara> apt-get is working again, thanks. Bit puzzled about this though.
[23:54] <sylar> tomreyn: okay i am seeing the man page but i am not able to get the command on my own for this..
[23:54] <tomreyn> Chucara: you should not need to do this regularly, no. normally it should happen automatically
[23:55] <CoderEurope> dunno - whos trying to log on - but your messing up the hangout.
[23:55] <tomreyn> Chucara: but if your /boot partiton / file system is too small (say less than 500 MB) then you may run into problems repeatedly.
[23:56] <tomreyn> Chucara: also this automatism which cleans stuff up did not work so well on older ubuntu releases (it works fine for me on 16.04)
[23:56] <Chucara> tomreyn: Ah ok. I wondered how 'normal people' would be able to use Ubuntu if that weren't the case. /boot is 500MB
[23:56] <Chucara> tomreyn: Ok well, thanks again. I have a bit of cleanup to do
[23:57] <tomreyn> enjoy ;)
[23:58] <zamanf> Is there a way to block dns leaks while using a vpn connection?