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GupperinoHey, I just installed Xubuntu and am having some issues booting. Could someone help me?00:18
GupperinoAnyone?00:29
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xubuntu31dis there a keyboard shortcut that I can use to kill open apps quickly ???07:51
flocculantxubuntu31d: you can ctrl+alt+esc and click on the app08:09
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Marasgeongreetings, are there any known issues with brightness in macbook pro?13:44
knomemacbooks aren't officially supported13:45
Marasgeonsomeone has a problem : waking macbook from sleep, gives him black screen, in xubuntu 16.04, is there a workaround?13:47
knomeas i said, macbooks aren't officially supported with xubuntu13:47
Marasgeonbut there are mac users, using it right?13:48
knomelikely.13:48
Marasgeonso there are no bug reports in xubuntu about macbooks?13:49
knomeunless the same issue is confirmed to happen with supported hardware, no - or in other words, no macbook-specific bugs are considered "won't fix" by the xubuntu team13:51
knomes/no/all/13:51
Marasgeonok, thanks knome14:07
asrockxubuenas15:44
asrockxuse puede instalar lamp en xubuntu ?15:44
xubuntu98wHello! Ctrl+Alt+N keyboard shortcut does not work in Jetbrains IDEs for me, even though it's set to Refactor->Inline. Ctrl+Alt+N is not bound to anything in xfce-keyboard-shortcuts or Keyboard->Application Shortcuts. Where else should I look? Other Ctrl+Alt+<something> combinations work in Jetbrains IDEs.17:13
DarkAceZI'm about to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04, but I don't have a place to back up my huge home folder to18:55
DarkAceZhow strongly is it recommended to have a backup before doing the install?18:55
DarkAceZI'll be doing from the "livecd" (off of a flash drive)18:56
giorshi does anybody know how to install gnome theme on xubuntu?19:04
knomeDarkAceZ, very, but it's your data, so if you are okay with the extremely slim but still possible risk of losing some or all, then you can do it without backups19:17
knomeDarkAceZ, if you can back up only some, backup stuff you can't recreate or re-get by any means19:18
knome(think: prefer photos from family vacation from the other side 10 years ago over music ripped from your audio cd's)19:19
knomealso, if you have a highly customized system, you might want to backup some of the configuration (. -folders) to save time - these are often relatively small19:19
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JustanickIs there an option to update now to 16.04.2?20:53
knomeif you are running 16.04, you'll get to .2 via regular updates, so no need for any extra actions20:54
geniiJustanick: Feb 2 or just after. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule20:55
Justanickknome: The problem is, that I have regularly trouble with btrfs and hope that the new kernel of .2 has a few fixes for the trouble.20:56
knomeyes, and effectively you don't need to bother with point releases; the only situation where one matters is when you download an ISO, and then you'll just want to get the latest available20:56
JustanickRunning out of free space and the balancing make system unusable like now. ;)20:57
knome4.8 kernels are already available in repositories if you specifically want to enable them now20:58
JustanickThis is the case why I would like upgrade as early as possible20:59
knomenot sure if they are the reason why the .2 release was postponed though20:59
Justanickknome: Thanks, I will give it a try.21:01
turejthe xubuntu installer asks for a wifi connection in order to get "third party software" amongst other things. my question is: will i be allowed to choose which third party software to download?21:40
turej?21:45
turejanyone?21:45
turej?!21:46
knomepatience places; you waited for less than 10 minutes21:47
knomeand the answer is no; if you answer yes to that question though, the installer will install some multimedia codecs21:48
turejknome: what kind of third party software will it install21:48
knomeyou will obviously be able to control whatever packages are in your system after the installation is finished21:48
knomesee above; i answered to that question already21:48
turejthe thing is, from my liveusb experience, xubuntu is already using (by my standards) too much of the ram21:48
tureji fear that if the third party software is installed, it'll get worse21:49
turejare my fears irrational and false in nature21:49
knomenot unless you use them; you can always opt-in to install them later, so you don't need to install them now21:49
knomemostly yes; the third party libraries will only use your resources when they are in use21:49
turejknome: if i refuse to connect to the internet during the installation, will i be able to get all the updates through "apt-get dist-upgrade" later?21:50
knomeas long as you have an internet connection at that point, yes21:50
knomethe installer doesn't do any "magical" things; its point is to make your life easier21:51
turejknome: im on a 32bit system, and xubuntu at startup is using up about 500mb ram, what could be the cause21:51
tureji saw within countless reviews that it used less than 300mb at startup21:51
knomecountless reviews where?21:51
knomeyou can likely boot xubuntu with less than 512MB of memory, using it isn't recommended21:52
turejknome: why in all of earth's glory is xubuntu using up about 500mb ram at startup21:52
turejthat is the question21:52
knomeit's a modern operating system and it has various services running21:53
tureji meant that i had read many reviews, and in them it was stated that xubuntu at startup took up about 250mb21:53
turejin my case, it's taking about 500+ mb21:53
knomeare the reviews talking about the same release?21:54
turejyes21:54
knomeyou can use the task manager to see what is eating your memory21:54
turejknome: my RAM is 4GB, "hardinfo" showed that it was using up about 500MB21:55
turejhowever21:55
turejthe task manager showed that only 4% or 8% cpu was in usage21:55
turej'top' said the same thing21:55
knomeRAM isn't CPU though21:55
turejactually top said about 0.8%21:55
turejknome: but surely if it takes up a lot of RAM, the system will be slowed down?21:56
knomeactually no, it's a combination of several things21:57
turejknome: keep in mind that i found all this out during a liveusb experience21:59
turejis it possible that less than 400mb at startup will be used after the system is installed21:59
knomethat's a different thing too; booting into xubuntu and using X amount of RAM is different than booting the liveusb21:59
knomeyes.21:59
turejknome: is your system encrypted22:00
tureji was wondering whether it'd be any good to have a distro encrypted22:01
knomedo you handle very private files and take your computer to public places?22:02
turejnope22:02
knomeanyway, the question is very subjective; some consider any data about their usage to need encryption, others do not mind22:03
turejok knome thank you for your somewhat technical help22:05
tureji'll be on my way to install xubuntu22:05
knomehave fun22:05
turejis there anything you'd like to say before i do that22:05
knomethe above :)22:05
turej:)22:05
turejthanks again!22:05
DarkAceZ<knome> also, if you have a highly customized system, you might want to backup some of the configuration (. -folders) to save time - these are often relatively small23:14
DarkAceZthis is just in case of data loss, right?23:14
knomeall backups are in case of data loss, right? :)23:14
DarkAceZokay, just checking to make sure the update doesn't refresh configs or something :-P23:14
DarkAceZthanks for the info, it's helpful23:15
knomeno, it shouldn't23:15

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