[00:18] <Gupperino> Hey, I just installed Xubuntu and am having some issues booting. Could someone help me?
[00:29] <Gupperino> Anyone?
[07:51] <xubuntu31d> is there a keyboard shortcut that I can use to kill open apps quickly ???
[08:09] <flocculant> xubuntu31d: you can ctrl+alt+esc and click on the app
[13:44] <Marasgeon> greetings, are there any known issues with brightness in macbook pro?
[13:45] <knome> macbooks aren't officially supported
[13:47] <Marasgeon> someone has a problem : waking macbook from sleep, gives him black screen, in xubuntu 16.04, is there a workaround?
[13:47] <knome> as i said, macbooks aren't officially supported with xubuntu
[13:48] <Marasgeon> but there are mac users, using it right?
[13:48] <knome> likely.
[13:49] <Marasgeon> so there are no bug reports in xubuntu about macbooks?
[13:51] <knome> unless the same issue is confirmed to happen with supported hardware, no - or in other words, no macbook-specific bugs are considered "won't fix" by the xubuntu team
[13:51] <knome> s/no/all/
[14:07] <Marasgeon> ok, thanks knome
[15:44] <asrockxu> buenas
[15:44] <asrockxu> se puede instalar lamp en xubuntu ?
[17:13] <xubuntu98w> Hello! Ctrl+Alt+N keyboard shortcut does not work in Jetbrains IDEs for me, even though it's set to Refactor->Inline. Ctrl+Alt+N is not bound to anything in xfce-keyboard-shortcuts or Keyboard->Application Shortcuts. Where else should I look? Other Ctrl+Alt+<something> combinations work in Jetbrains IDEs.
[18:55] <DarkAceZ> I'm about to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04, but I don't have a place to back up my huge home folder to
[18:55] <DarkAceZ> how strongly is it recommended to have a backup before doing the install?
[18:56] <DarkAceZ> I'll be doing from the "livecd" (off of a flash drive)
[19:04] <giors> hi does anybody know how to install gnome theme on xubuntu?
[19:17] <knome> DarkAceZ, very, but it's your data, so if you are okay with the extremely slim but still possible risk of losing some or all, then you can do it without backups
[19:18] <knome> DarkAceZ, if you can back up only some, backup stuff you can't recreate or re-get by any means
[19:19] <knome> (think: prefer photos from family vacation from the other side 10 years ago over music ripped from your audio cd's)
[19:19] <knome> also, if you have a highly customized system, you might want to backup some of the configuration (. -folders) to save time - these are often relatively small
[20:53] <Justanick> Is there an option to update now to 16.04.2?
[20:54] <knome> if you are running 16.04, you'll get to .2 via regular updates, so no need for any extra actions
[20:55] <genii> Justanick: Feb 2 or just after. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[20:56] <Justanick> knome: The problem is, that I have regularly trouble with btrfs and hope that the new kernel of .2 has a few fixes for the trouble.
[20:56] <knome> yes, and effectively you don't need to bother with point releases; the only situation where one matters is when you download an ISO, and then you'll just want to get the latest available
[20:57] <Justanick> Running out of free space and the balancing make system unusable like now. ;)
[20:58] <knome> 4.8 kernels are already available in repositories if you specifically want to enable them now
[20:59] <Justanick> This is the case why I would like upgrade as early as possible
[20:59] <knome> not sure if they are the reason why the .2 release was postponed though
[21:01] <Justanick> knome: Thanks, I will give it a try.
[21:40] <turej> the xubuntu installer asks for a wifi connection in order to get "third party software" amongst other things. my question is: will i be allowed to choose which third party software to download?
[21:45] <turej> ?
[21:45] <turej> anyone?
[21:46] <turej> ?!
[21:47] <knome> patience places; you waited for less than 10 minutes
[21:48] <knome> and the answer is no; if you answer yes to that question though, the installer will install some multimedia codecs
[21:48] <turej> knome: what kind of third party software will it install
[21:48] <knome> you will obviously be able to control whatever packages are in your system after the installation is finished
[21:48] <knome> see above; i answered to that question already
[21:48] <turej> the thing is, from my liveusb experience, xubuntu is already using (by my standards) too much of the ram
[21:49] <turej> i fear that if the third party software is installed, it'll get worse
[21:49] <turej> are my fears irrational and false in nature
[21:49] <knome> not unless you use them; you can always opt-in to install them later, so you don't need to install them now
[21:49] <knome> mostly yes; the third party libraries will only use your resources when they are in use
[21:50] <turej> knome: if i refuse to connect to the internet during the installation, will i be able to get all the updates through "apt-get dist-upgrade" later?
[21:50] <knome> as long as you have an internet connection at that point, yes
[21:51] <knome> the installer doesn't do any "magical" things; its point is to make your life easier
[21:51] <turej> knome: im on a 32bit system, and xubuntu at startup is using up about 500mb ram, what could be the cause
[21:51] <turej> i saw within countless reviews that it used less than 300mb at startup
[21:51] <knome> countless reviews where?
[21:52] <knome> you can likely boot xubuntu with less than 512MB of memory, using it isn't recommended
[21:52] <turej> knome: why in all of earth's glory is xubuntu using up about 500mb ram at startup
[21:52] <turej> that is the question
[21:53] <knome> it's a modern operating system and it has various services running
[21:53] <turej> i meant that i had read many reviews, and in them it was stated that xubuntu at startup took up about 250mb
[21:53] <turej> in my case, it's taking about 500+ mb
[21:54] <knome> are the reviews talking about the same release?
[21:54] <turej> yes
[21:54] <knome> you can use the task manager to see what is eating your memory
[21:55] <turej> knome: my RAM is 4GB, "hardinfo" showed that it was using up about 500MB
[21:55] <turej> however
[21:55] <turej> the task manager showed that only 4% or 8% cpu was in usage
[21:55] <turej> 'top' said the same thing
[21:55] <knome> RAM isn't CPU though
[21:55] <turej> actually top said about 0.8%
[21:56] <turej> knome: but surely if it takes up a lot of RAM, the system will be slowed down?
[21:57] <knome> actually no, it's a combination of several things
[21:59] <turej> knome: keep in mind that i found all this out during a liveusb experience
[21:59] <turej> is it possible that less than 400mb at startup will be used after the system is installed
[21:59] <knome> that's a different thing too; booting into xubuntu and using X amount of RAM is different than booting the liveusb
[21:59] <knome> yes.
[22:00] <turej> knome: is your system encrypted
[22:01] <turej> i was wondering whether it'd be any good to have a distro encrypted
[22:02] <knome> do you handle very private files and take your computer to public places?
[22:02] <turej> nope
[22:03] <knome> anyway, the question is very subjective; some consider any data about their usage to need encryption, others do not mind
[22:05] <turej> ok knome thank you for your somewhat technical help
[22:05] <turej> i'll be on my way to install xubuntu
[22:05] <knome> have fun
[22:05] <turej> is there anything you'd like to say before i do that
[22:05] <knome> the above :)
[22:05] <turej> :)
[22:05] <turej> thanks again!
 also, if you have a highly customized system, you might want to backup some of the configuration (. -folders) to save time - these are often relatively small
[23:14] <DarkAceZ> this is just in case of data loss, right?
[23:14] <knome> all backups are in case of data loss, right? :)
[23:14] <DarkAceZ> okay, just checking to make sure the update doesn't refresh configs or something :-P
[23:15] <DarkAceZ> thanks for the info, it's helpful
[23:15] <knome> no, it shouldn't