[00:03] <acheronuk> Depending on which terminal program you have installed, you can use one of
[00:04] <acheronuk> ssh -o UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -p 10022 ubuntu@localhos
[00:04] <acheronuk> ubuntu@localhost's password: ????
[00:04] <acheronuk> any guesses ^^^
[00:04] <clivejo> no idea
[00:04] <acheronuk> to login to a testbed to have a look after a test failed
[00:05] <clivejo> ubuntu:ubuntu?
[00:06] <acheronuk> that worked. I tried that 1st, but maybe mistyped and assumed in was not it!
[00:09] <clivejo> it working?
[00:10] <acheronuk> yep
[00:11] <clivejo> yippeee
[00:11] <acheronuk> doesn't mean I fixed anything!
[00:11] <clivejo> early days
[00:11] <tsimonq2> ^
[00:12] <acheronuk> but might be able to get a more verbose error log
[00:12] <clivejo> Im looking forward to you fixing all failures!
[00:12] <tsimonq2> clivejo: I'm not back to do development stuff yet. :P
[00:12] <clivejo> I meant Rik
[00:13] <tsimonq2> *kid eyes* But I can too!
[00:13] <acheronuk> hehe. error log http://paste.ubuntu.com/23842795/
[00:14] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Have fun! XD
[00:17] <acheronuk> in the end acc gives that exit code not as a failure with ABI incompatibility, but as "Headers have been compiled with minor errors"
[00:18] <acheronuk> so *think* it may ok for override
[00:32] <clivejo> is there any way to feedback to upstream devels
[00:33] <clivejo> get them fixed properly
[00:34] <valorie> sure -- if it's a patch, phab
[00:34] <valorie> something else, IRC or ML
[00:35] <valorie> ben said the other day in #kde-sysadmin that all the projects are now in phab
[00:36] <valorie> for code reviews I think, not necessarily other fancy things
[00:37] <acheronuk> not even sure if that is a kde thing, a Qt issue, a compiler issue that may be neither, or what???
[00:38] <valorie> Qt issue -- when thiago is in #kde-devel, he knows all Qt, and is helpful
[00:38] <valorie> if rather short with his answers
[00:38] <valorie> he's a Qt devel, and legendary
[00:39] <acheronuk> well, getting the test to run and getting it to cough up a proper error log is goo for tonight :P
[00:40] <acheronuk> *good
[00:40] <clivejo> indeed
[00:40] <valorie> oh gosh, that makes me think of my cat's hairballs
[00:40] <valorie> good work indeed!
[00:42] <acheronuk> I looked back at some of logs to time of the old crew, and the few mentions I could find they often just disabled these damn things.
[00:43] <acheronuk> but I will feel better if I at least have a little go at investigating. even if it comes to naught
[00:44] <valorie> seems more awesome to be able to figure out how to fix, yeah
[00:44] <acheronuk> always
[00:45] <acheronuk> or at least understand the issue better if not
[10:26] <acheronuk> morning :)
[10:28] <acheronuk> clivejo: spot the the issue with tests fr okular KF5? https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/okular/tree/debian/tests/testsuite.xsession?h=kubuntu_zesty_archive
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hiyas folks
[11:51] <soee> !info purge-old-kernels
[11:56] <soee> !info byobu
[12:12] <acheronuk> ah. I see the main issue with okular I think. will test later and commit fix hopefully
[12:13] <acheronuk> for now, Sunday lunch :)
[12:40] <BluesKaj> gonna have a few joins and quits here while i track down which servers work on the konversation quick connect option
[13:13] <BluesKaj> ok , port 8001 on chat freenode.net no longer connects on konverstion, however, port 7070 with SASL and SSL connects successfully
[20:26]  * acheronuk yawns
[20:30] <clivejo> so where we up to?
[20:32] <acheronuk> just tinkering with tests today. have been mostly busy
[20:33] <acheronuk> okular is hopefully sorted, which is quite important to have, and hopefully able to go back on the iso
[20:50] <clivejo> been thinking about https://phabricator.kde.org/T5123
[20:51] <acheronuk> clivejo: can you retry the failing tests for gwenview?
[20:51] <blaze> let's pretend kdepim doesn't exist
[20:51] <blaze> :)
[20:52] <clivejo> not pretend, just give people the choice
[20:52] <acheronuk> lol, you know my opinion on PIM
[20:52] <acheronuk> I like akregator though. would not be without that
[20:53] <acheronuk> it does not use akonadi though
[20:53] <clivejo> just thought maybe we should consider not preinstalling it my default
[20:56] <acheronuk> much as I am not keen on it, I do think an an email client and calendar/reminder app should be part of the default install
[20:56] <acheronuk> and if we are KDE, that is kmail and korganiser
[21:01] <clivejo> I'm somewhere in the middle
[21:01] <clivejo> I use it, but can see both sides
[21:01] <clivejo> it is a rather big resource hog
[21:02] <clivejo> makes me think IE being intregated into Windoze
[21:03]  * blaze is thinking about what would it take to make a qt gui to sylpheed
[21:03] <blaze> it has a separate library libsylph so...
[21:03] <clivejo> blaze is there a qt frontend for firewall?
[21:03] <blaze> dunno
[21:04] <acheronuk> what firewall?
[21:05] <clivejo> ufw?
[21:06] <clivejo> be nice to have a kcm 
[21:06] <acheronuk> I seem to recall someone looking at a KF5 update for the old KCM for that?
[21:08] <clivejo> https://cgit.kde.org/ufw-kde.git/log/
[21:09] <clivejo> dont think any work in a while
[21:10] <acheronuk> aha. from september http://paste.ubuntu.com/23848271/
[21:11] <clivejo> I dont even remember that!
[21:14] <acheronuk> my memory can be either stupidly good, or damn awful
[21:15] <acheronuk> often without rhyme or reason
[21:41] <valorie> I used to use sylpheed, before just using gmail full-time
[21:41] <valorie> tried tbird again too, but it's awful
[21:42] <tsimonq2> valorie: WHAT I LOVE THUNDERBIRD :O
[21:42] <valorie> horror show
[21:42] <tsimonq2> !
[21:42] <valorie> used claws mail for awhile too
[21:42] <valorie> and mutt
[21:42] <valorie> let's just stick with mutt
[21:42] <valorie> gah, I miss kmail
[21:42] <vip> /me too
[21:43] <tsimonq2> Best place to start out with packaging docs?
[21:44] <valorie> clivejo: have you set up the wiki yet?
[21:44]  * acheronuk curses at gpgme
[21:44] <valorie> tsimonq2: it was thought that the phab wiki would be a good place
[21:44] <clivejo> valorie: added a few pages, yes
[21:44] <valorie> at least to try that out
[21:44] <tsimonq2> HAH I CAUGHT IT http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1701.2/05343.html
[21:44] <valorie> cool
[21:45] <tsimonq2> Linux 4.10 rc 5
[21:45] <tsimonq2> Within 15 minutes of it being released! :D :D :D
[21:45] <tsimonq2> Anyways
[21:45] <tsimonq2> clivejo: Huh? O__O
[21:45] <tsimonq2> Link?
[21:46] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: you could fix gpgme? that would be good....
[21:46]  * acheronuk runs
[21:46] <clivejo> https://phabricator.kde.org/project/profile/214/
[21:46] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Maybe if I had access to do so
[21:47] <tsimonq2> *runs*
[21:47] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: you have your ppas. and can dget the source
[21:47] <tsimonq2> But that's not our normal workflow :P
[21:47] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: doesn't need our stuff
[21:48] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: excuses excuses
[21:48] <tsimonq2> clivejo: kthx
[21:48] <acheronuk> :P
[21:48] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: You atarted it :P
[21:48] <tsimonq2> *started
[21:49] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: and I have given up for now
[21:49] <acheronuk> may come back to it at some point, but had enough for now
[21:50] <acheronuk> you never know, could be an easy fix that I haven't come across or fathomed
[21:51] <acheronuk> anyway.... only a suggestion. no worries
[21:51] <valorie> wat
[21:51] <valorie> there is chat built into phab
[21:51] <clivejo> there is indeed
[21:52] <acheronuk> Conpherence
[21:52] <valorie> not sure I see the use of it
[21:53] <valorie> but ok
[21:54] <clivejo> to talk about coding :)
[21:55] <clivejo> did you get phurl?
[21:56] <valorie> no, not yet
[21:58] <valorie> tsimonq2: https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/
[21:59] <valorie> oooo, clivejo has already done a lot of work
 (little compared to what I want to do...)
[22:10] <valorie> tsimonq2: of course
[22:10] <valorie> great hopes there
[22:11] <acheronuk> Trying easy from autohinter: kdegraphics-mobipocket/4:16.12.1-0ubuntu1 okular/4:16.12.1-0ubuntu2
[22:11] <acheronuk> * amd64: baloo-dbg, baloo-utils, baloo4, kfilemetadata-dbg, libkfilemetadata-dev, libkfilemetadata4, libokular-perl, libsmokekde-dev, libsmokeokular3, okular-backend-odp, okular-backend-odt
[22:11] <acheronuk> some obsolete kde4 stuff there ^^^ ?
[22:14] <acheronuk> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/zesty/perlkde ?
[22:16] <acheronuk> kde4 baloo http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/zesty/baloo
[22:16] <acheronuk> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/zesty/kfilemetadata
[22:17] <acheronuk> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/zesty/smokekde
[22:31] <valorie> gosh, I was just updating some links about the seed for Intrepid, and Natty!