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cpaelzergood morning!06:41
Snow-ManHI!06:43
pittigood morning!06:44
Snow-Manpitti: hey there! :)06:48
Snow-Manpitti: there were multiple comments wrt you in the PG community of late, btw...06:49
Snow-Manpitti: I'll summarize them real quick, in case you're interested (it's ok if you are not, of course):06:49
Snow-Manpitti: Why does purge remvoe the data directory too?  Seems a bit dangerous, and a bug was filed about it.06:49
Snow-Man*remove06:50
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Snow-Manpitti: Why does a purge (or just remove?) stop *all* databases?  That's *really* annoying when doing an upgrade.06:50
Snow-Manas in you do an upgrade, and then want to remove the 'old' cluster after everything is happy, but that removal ends up shutting down the 'new' cluster. :(06:51
Snow-Man… I think there were other things, but not remembering atm. :)06:52
pittiSnow-Man: well, it's a bit of a YAFIYGI thing IMHO -- "purge" means "leave nothing behind", unlike "remove"..06:54
pittiSnow-Man: removing the wrong cluster sounds like a major bug indeed, but I haven't heard from this at all06:55
pitti(unlike the "remove clusters on purge" question which comes up every now and then)06:55
pittierr, stopping, not removing06:58
Snow-Manyea,it's just stopping06:59
pittiSnow-Man: the intention is certainly to only stop the clusters of the corresponding version06:59
pittimaybe that got broken with introducing the systemd services, IIRC it's still calling the init.d script with the version arg07:00
Snow-Manthat seems likely.07:04
Snow-ManI'll talk to Myon about it07:04
pittiand the p-common scripts don't test package removal, so it could easily have slipped through07:04
pittithat's saying something -- "once you install PostgreSQL, you will never want to remove it again!" ☺07:04
Snow-Manhahaha07:05
Snow-Man:D07:05
Snow-Manohhh07:06
Snow-Manthere was something else07:06
Snow-Mansomething like, you need postgresql-common to get the PG userid07:06
Snow-Manbut, to have that, you need a PG server version installed07:07
Snow-Mansomething awkward like that07:07
pittihm, just -common ought to be enough07:08
cpaelzerIIRC if you need users prior to package install can add them it would have to go to base-passwd package?07:09
Snow-Manpitti: nah, it wasn't..  I don't remember why right now tho.07:13
pitticpaelzer: right, but that should be very rare -- normally you'd use a Pre-Depends:, or even "more" normally you create needed system users in your own maintscript07:14
cpaelzerpitti: of course, I just meant if it had to exist "prior" to any related package install07:14
cpaelzerand if they need to share uid/gid across systems07:15
pittiright, those are the static gids (< 100)07:15
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LocutusOfBorgjbicha, python-imagick merge? :)11:06
LocutusOfBorgs/python/php11:07
akxwi-davecyphermox:  Has anyone been looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1651716 this is still happening in Xubuntu land, as well as on Ubuntu  zesty iso's11:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1651716 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "17.04 boots direct to live desktop, no option to Try or Install" [Undecided,Confirmed]11:09
LocutusOfBorgI would even try a sync11:25
Dmitrii-ShHi, could anyone please sponsor a patch for qemu in xenial? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/qemu/+bug/165648011:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1656480 in qemu (Ubuntu Xenial) "QEMU Does not Send L2 Broadcasts After Live Migration" [High,In progress]11:53
cpaelzerDmitrii-Sh: I can look at it later today11:57
Dmitrii-Shcpaelzer: thanks!11:57
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jbichaLocutusOfBorg: feel free to sync it when it's available13:33
LocutusOfBorgok ta13:37
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cpaelzerDmitrii-Sh: review done - looks all good14:18
cpaelzerDmitrii-Sh: not test building and running some tests on it14:18
cpaelzerDmitrii-Sh: but I'd expect it to be in the upload queue this evening14:18
Dmitrii-Shcpaelzer: thx14:19
LocutusOfBorgsigh jbicha missing dot :(15:24
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acheronukforensics-all seems stuck in zesty proposed as it requires https://packages.debian.org/sid/rekall-core16:05
acheronukis this syncable?16:05
Dmitrii-ShHi, could anybody take a look at a debdiff for this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/barbican/+bug/1570356 ?16:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1570356 in barbican (Ubuntu) "unable to load plugins in Centos" [High,Triaged]16:29
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cpaelzerDmitrii-Sh: on the qemu one - tests still running but so far all green16:32
cpaelzerDmitrii-Sh: I'll collect the final all green and upload if so before going to bed today16:33
Dmitrii-Shcpaelzer: great, thx16:33
elopioinfinity: could you review this one, please? https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/106016:34
infinityelopio: So, I'm guessing snapcraft doesn't support building for multiple/cross arches on one host?16:37
elopioinfinity: only for the kernel plugin, at the moment.16:38
acheronukok. filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/forensics-all/+bug/165872816:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1658728 in forensics-all (Ubuntu) "version 1.5 in zesty proposed has unsatisfied depends on rekall-core" [Undecided,New]16:39
infinityelopio: Kay.  So, I'm guessing you're avoiding just asking dpkg because you want something that works on all distros.  You'll be grumpy when you realise that GCC triplets are different on RedHat.16:43
infinityelopio: Also, not sure why, in these scenarios, you care about kernel arch at all.16:45
infinityelopio: Unless you're using a mismatch later to trigger invoking subproccesses with linux32/linux64 or something.16:46
elopioinfinity: yup, that will be sad. I'm not sure if snapcraft as a snap could bundle dpkg.16:46
infinityelopio: Which is easier to just hardcode "always assume armhf/i386/powerpc are linux32".16:46
elopioinfinity: can you please comment that on the bug. I wanted to check with you if the approach was correct, but it seems it still needs some work.16:47
elopios/bug/pr16:47
infinityelopio: I'll give it a more thorough look after I've woken up.  Still working on that.16:47
elopioinfinity: take your time :)16:47
infinityelopio: Added one comment.  I realised my comment about the scenarios was bogus because that was the testsuite, not the actual code.17:21
infinityelopio: This will probably work on Most distros, but anything with a RedHat-derived toolchain will almost certainly not work without tweaking.17:22
elopioinfinity: we intend to run snapcraft as a snap in other distros. So I think having gcc as a bundled would just work. But it's worth to be sure of that before we go too deep.17:23
elopiothanks for the review.17:23
infinityelopio: Bundling gcc with snapcraft sounds pretty gross, IMO.17:24
infinityelopio: Like, I get the whole snap concept, but there should be limits, one would think. :P17:24
elopioinfinity: the alternative is not so bad either. Check if we are on redhat, and parse the gcc output differently, or something like that.17:26
infinityelopio: Though, I suppose the flip argument of that is that if the goal is to build things that definitely work on an ubuntu-core core snap, you need both gcc and libc-dev from Ubuntu (or, really, our who build-essential).  But it would seem somewhat saner to have a build-essential snap that gets yanked in for such purposes.  Or something.  I dunno.  *handwavy*17:26
infinitys/our who/our whole/17:27
elopioI'm not sure what will be the approach. Just putting an # XXX comment to deal with that later generally works :)17:28
* infinity chokes.17:28
infinityelopio: Good thing I don't know codebases with decade+ old XXX/FIXME comments. :)17:28
tjaaltonmy laptop still has the broken n-m on zesty, what was the quick'n'dirty way to fix dns?20:24
jbichatjaalton: the new n-m migrated out of proposed so one quick'n'dirty fix is to update your laptop :)21:09
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ScottKWhich might be tough without DNS.21:47
jbichaoh, my DNS was broken with CNAMES in containers22:02
tsimonq2tjaalton: install libnss-resolv...something or other :P22:06
tsimonq2REALLY glad that's pretty much fixed for now22:06
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