[00:37] <tiox> Poppin' in, sayin' hi, got a quetion.
[00:38] <tiox> Question, rather.
[00:38] <tiox> So does it matter that mate-appearance-properties doesn't modivy the value for org.gnome.interface gtk-theme?
[00:38] <tiox> Because I see it modifies icon-theme there but not gtk-theme.
[00:39] <tiox> Also typos all day, every day. Dam it.
[01:14] <ubuntu-mate_> yo?
[01:14] <ubuntu-mate_> can someone help me
[01:15] <Astro7467> !ask | ubuntu-mate_
[01:16] <ubuntu-mate_> I just got Ubuntu mate, and I can't work out how to install any programs...
[01:18] <Astro7467> In the software Boutique, if a app isn't listed you are after, there are other software catalogues such as Ubuntu Software Center, App Grid etc that can be used also for software search/install
[01:20] <ubuntu-mate_> how do i get to the software boutique
[01:20] <Astro7467> some apps - typically more low level or server or service type software - require manual install which will be outlined on their relevent website
[01:20] <ubuntu-mate_> I've never used a Linux os before
[01:20] <Astro7467> Software Boutique if available from the welcome app, else go to the Control Centre
[01:22] <ubuntu-mate_> all im seeing is Ubuntu merch
[01:25] <Astro7467> when you start up and login do you see a welcome screen link the one shown here -> https://ubuntu-mate.org/gallery/Screenshots/05_ABOUT.png
[01:25] <ubuntu-mate> i got it
[01:25] <ubuntu-mate> I went through the system button at the top
[01:25] <ubuntu-mate> installed Chromium now :_
[02:01] <speel3k> hey
[03:32] <esteban> how do you stop MATE from auto logging in to GUI
[03:36] <sinewav> do you want to use a different desktop environment (like XFCE, KDE) or no GUI at all?
[03:39] <esteban> no, i just want it to stop at a log-in screen
[03:55] <sinewav> Have you checked you settings in "Users and Groups"? You can find this in the Mate Control Center or by looking for "Users and Groups" in the application menu.
[03:56] <sinewav> Click your user, then click "Change" next too password, you will see a dialog box. One of the options is "Don't ask for a password at login". Make sure that is unchecked.
[04:04] <HoppingMadMan> Hey, hows everyone today?
[04:05] <Astro7467> G'day HoppingMadMan
[04:05] <HoppingMadMan> How are Astro7467 mate?
[04:48] <Astro7467> Sori HMM, got distracted, going is good  - for a Monday - everything is relative :D
[04:56] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah I thankful its still Sunday for a little while here
[04:58] <Astro7467> Sunday is a distant memory now ....
[04:59] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah, don't worry come tomorrow I will be agreeing with you
[05:00] <HoppingMadMan> Tomorrow, I need to start building the CNC machine and working out all that junk
[05:03] <Astro7467> You working in mfg environment? I hated dealing with shopfloor systems - they always had issues due to crap/old/weird systems like DOS or Win95 or an old BusyBox implementation, or no auto-neg NICs etc etc
[05:05] <HoppingMadMan> Sounds a nightmare, I need to build a GUI and always been a backend coding person I need to make GUI for the CNC machine and I am knowing this will be a nightmare for me
[05:06] <Astro7467> Ah! Well, just don't hardcode anything... pls ... then you will be my hero - not that I am dealing with mfg anymore (or currently)
[05:08] <HoppingMadMan> Speaking of old system we work with a company that still uses a old unix system for their invoices and its still uses a dot matrix printer and it is a nightmare because there sys admins don't want to touch it or look at it in fear it might break, it cost them something like $50,000 back in the early 1990
[05:09] <HoppingMadMan> And it holds all their clients data plus all their stock information even if they went to a new system it would take a good three months to move all the data
[05:10] <Astro7467> sounds like a Xenix or SCO Linux system
[05:11] <Astro7467> not that scary if they know Linux or BSD
[05:12] <Astro7467> data is probably some hybrid text-binary layout that could be parsed with some clever awk/grep/sed magic
[05:12] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah see living in Mexico has sown me even with being trained in Australia I am to professional and they hate that here, they just get family... There like oh our sun can install Windows and do some HTML, you will now be our Database architect
[05:13] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah that was what I was think because I asked if you could just dump the raw file out into a usable text and was told no... Last time we tried it took the whole system out
[05:14] <HoppingMadMan> And with ever hour that system is off they loss money
[05:15] <Astro7467> sounds like a good reason to move off of it, but until the hardware dies, they will be fearful
[05:15] <HoppingMadMan> Oh... You would think but they have a tape back up that if it dies they just find some old junk hardware and in Mexico that is easy then restore and keep running
[05:17] <HoppingMadMan> I think its like in its 30 plus iteration
[05:18] <HoppingMadMan> When I am there we are just there to drop shit off... I don't want to judge these people because I really do think its the people higher than them that is the problem
[05:18] <Astro7467> usually is. this is where my N+1 theory comes in
[05:19] <Astro7467> staff tell them N times what needs to be done
[05:20] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah, I am thankful I am more doing embedded systems stuff here being a sys admin would suck
[05:20] <Astro7467> you or a 3rd party comes in and tells them once, and it is the smartest idea ever, why are we doing this yesterday?
[05:20] <Astro7467> *aren't
[05:20] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah very true Astro7467
[05:22] <Astro7467> experienced a lot a a external support /consultant - tell them for years, nothing happens. they move to new firm, everything you suggested is implemented
[05:23] <HoppingMadMan> Also you get payed peanuts here for being a sys admin and they want you with CCNP and Red Hat and think you should have all that cost on you
[05:25] <Astro7467> that would hurt. I bet a lot go overseas or MNC 1st chance they get
[05:34] <HoppingMadMan> Yeah, if I could get somewhere else I would because I feel my skill is wasted here
[05:41] <HoppingMadMan> I would love to take my skills somewhere else in the world but having a Mexican wife for lot of counters is super problematic
[12:30] <guest-sknmsi> hello
[12:59] <aka> hola
[12:59] <aka> necesito ayuda
[12:59] <aka> help to me pls
[16:04] <Metalindustrien> Hey, I'm trying to install Ubuntu MATE on my MacBook Pro (late 2011 model). I've installed rEFInd in order to be able to boot from a USB Flash drive, and I've created a Ubuntu MATE USB Stick via UNetbootin. But when I try to boot from the USB stick, it seems to launch Grub in a terminal stating something like "MINIMAL BASH LIKE LINE EDITING IS SUPPORTED". How can I get it to boot from the flash drive? I'm fine with
[16:04] <Metalindustrien>  erasing OS X from the MBP completely
[16:35] <alkisg> Metalindustrien: I haven't heard good words about unetbootin, I did hear good things about rufus, maybe try that one
[16:35] <Metalindustrien> alkisg Will do, thanks
[17:55] <jsphillips86> The panel that pops up when you click the sound icon on the panel is comically small and I have to scroll to see playback controls. How do I fix that?
[21:21] <seba_> hola
[21:22] <seba_> esto es un lujo!!!
[21:23] <DarkPsydeLord> hola!
[21:24] <seba_> hacia bastante que no usaba LINUX y la verdad que estoy emosionado!!
[21:24] <seba_> emocionado ja
[21:28] <seba_> lo unico que no funciona es el audio
[21:29] <seba_> pero no se que tendra q ver en alsamixer si activo los headphone SI FUNCIONA
[21:30] <seba_> pero cada vez que reinicio vuelve a pasar
[21:30] <DarkPsydeLord> que compu tienes?
[21:31] <DarkPsydeLord> yo en esta compu en especifico paso por eso por que tiene beats audio asi que le hago jack retask
[21:31] <nomic> .es
[21:31] <seba_> tengo una EXO
[21:31] <seba_> notebook
[21:32] <DarkPsydeLord> seba entra en ubuntu-es aqui la gente se pone mal cuando ve otro idioma que no sea ingles
[21:32] <seba_> okis thanks
[21:45] <Acid190> just been reading everywhere that 16.04 (mate) does not support the compiz burn effect, anyone know of a safe work around for this? plugins-extra is installed of course, but does not show the extra effects option in compiz manager.
[21:46] <DarkPsydeLord> seba_: did you managed to get to the other channel?
[21:49] <seba_> DarkPsydeLord, i put #Ubuntu.es jaja
[21:49] <DarkPsydeLord> LOL
[21:49] <DarkPsydeLord> !es
[21:54] <seba__> thnaks
[22:07] <HoppingMadMan> Hey, everyone, how is everyone, I was just wondering if anyone had any expenses with building GUI software
[22:42] <zenvok> hi all nice shit going on
[22:42] <zenvok> i love it :)
[22:47] <HoppingMadMan> Eh zenvok?
[23:46] <motion228> hello
[23:49] <motion228> just installed ubuntu mate
[23:49] <motion228> what should i download first