[00:00] <Arcaire> "nothing personnel, kid" -Nvidia 2016/2017
[00:00] <k1l> budder: add "nomodeset" like said in the howto linked. but you need to hightligt the regular ubuntu boot entry.
[00:00] <k1l> budder: scroll down to the linux kernel line where "splash quiet" is listed. there you need to add "nomodeset"
[00:00] <Arcaire> k1l: I found that I had to mod gfxmode to `gfxmode nomodeset` also. Know anything about that (just for my own ref)?
[00:01] <Xz> ok, so I know what's going on now with my Live USB to another USB stick Ubuntu installation
[00:01] <Xz> in secure mode
[00:01] <budder> killtheliterate: can you please link me?
[00:02] <k1l> !nomodeset | budder
[00:02] <Xz> installer by default copies all UEFI related stuff to already existing /dev/sda1 UEFI partition (SSD)
[00:02] <budder> Arcaire: do you have any suggestions? i was attempting to use workaround A on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen but don't know where to edit the entry
[00:02] <Xz> what I need it to do is to install that UEFI boot stuff onto /dev/sdc1
[00:02] <Arcaire> budder: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[00:02] <Xz> but even I tell in installer to install it there, it still picks up /dev/sda1
[00:03] <Xz> are you aware of any tutorials for USB-live to USB-thumbdrive UEFI secure boot installation for Ubuntu? :)
[00:04] <matti> MarkB2: What does the dmesg contain?
[00:04] <budder> also, since i knew this was going to happen, i took a picture of these settings right after i first installed ubuntu (http://imgur.com/a/wTebE)
[00:08] <MarkB2> matti: dmesg showed that a Serial driver was loaded but that was it.  But found something else.. This system didn't have setserial installed.. and while there's /etc/init.d/etc-setserial, it was never being run due to the LACK of setserial.  I just rebooted the box.
[00:11] <budder> Arcaire: k1l i am currently reading that nomodeset howto. however, will i still have these settings when I load into ubuntu? and if so should I change anything? http://imgur.com/a/wTebE
[00:12] <MarkB2> matti: I'm gonna scream.  /etc/init.d/etc-setserial calls for /etc/serial.conf .. and guess what I don't happen to have?
[00:13] <k1l> budder: again: some video cards need that nomodeset until the proper driver is installed
[00:13] <budder> k1l: so after nomodeset do i change any of those options?
[00:13] <k1l> budder: yes, you install the nvidia driver there.
[00:14] <budder> k1l: okay so the nomodeset is only good for one boot?
[00:14] <Arcaire> No, it's fine for infinite boots, you just have to do that each time (or update your grub config once you boot into Ubuntu).
[00:15] <Arcaire> I prefer doing it once then installing the Nvidia drivers, personally.
[00:15] <k1l> budder: yes. that way you edit the grub it will only work one time. but that is enough to make nvidia driver install.
[00:16] <countingdaisies> Is it possible to have more than one version of php installed and working? Or, if I downgrade for an application I'm installing locally, what do I sacrifice?
[00:16] <countingdaisies> Or maybe is there a way to make PHP 7.0.13-0ubuntu0.16.04.1  stop complaining about breaks and just run the program?
[00:18] <excelsiora> hi!
[00:19] <excelsiora> how do I ensure my PATH (which I'm adding to in my .bashrc) is used by GUI apps that I launch?
[00:20] <budder> k1l: Arcaire both of the images under the "How to temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS (not wubi)" section in the writeup are not displaying
[00:20] <k1l> budder: read the text. its not that difficult
[00:20] <Arcaire> budder: The thing suggested before - adding nomodeset - was what that image showed.
[00:20] <Arcaire> So you already did it.
[00:21] <Arcaire> Or, are going to.
[00:21] <budder> Arcaire: no i'm going to
[00:21] <countingdaisies> I have to go for a while but I'll come back and ask again. thx.
[00:23] <rypervenche> excelsiora: What do you mean used by GUI apps? The PATH is only used for running commands from the command line. Can you elaborate on what you're trying to accomplish?
[00:24] <matti> MarkB2: Try minicom -s, ignore setserial :)
[00:26] <excelsiora> rypervenche: I'm trying to run Python and R from inside gui Emacs orgmode and they're set to my path in my bashrc
[00:27] <rypervenche> excelsiora: I believe that will use your user's PATH variable for that then. I'm not 100% sure though.
[00:27] <excelsiora> do I need an xinitrc that runs my .bashrc?
[00:27] <reisio> excelsiora: wha?
[00:28] <excelsiora> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/77411/is-xinitrc-executed-when-logging-in/77495#77495
[00:29] <reisio> excelsiora: are you experiencing a problem?
[00:29] <try_to_top> hi
[00:29] <reisio> try_to_top: hi
[00:30] <excelsiora> reisio: I'm trying to run Python and R from inside gui Emacs orgmode and they're set to my path in my bashrc - my problem is that the path is not recognized by the gui
[00:30] <try_to_top> is there is anyone here is a programmer
[00:31] <reisio> try_to_top: ...
[00:31] <reisio> excelsiora: talk to #emacs
[00:32] <matti> MarkB2: I need to go to sleep. Good luck! :) I am sure you will get it going :)
[00:32] <try_to_top> reisio: i just want to ask some question
[00:32] <excelsiora> reisio: I already did, but I think launching a GUI app is to blame - and I'm not even sure what to google for to find the answer.
[00:33] <k1l> try_to_top: this channel is for technical ubuntu support. for programmers talk better use #programming
[00:33] <try_to_top> k1l: thanks
[00:33] <excelsiora> I'll read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#System-wide_environment_variables and come back if I have more questions.
[00:33] <bazhang> two ## iirc
[00:33] <thy_arseness> bazhang, !!!
[00:33] <reisio> it's not ### now?
[00:34] <reisio> excelsiora: it's an emacs issue
[00:34] <budder> k1l Arcaire it worked!
[00:34] <Arcaire> :)
[00:34] <budder> thank you
[00:35] <budder> thank you k1l and Arcaire. time to go enjoy linux now
[00:35] <Arcaire> Have fun!
[00:35] <budder> thank you.
[00:35] <budder> and recommended starting points?
[00:36] <bazhang> !manual | budder start here
[00:36] <bazhang> !rute | and this also budder
[00:36] <bazhang> you have many many links to read first now budder
[00:39] <budder> bazhang: thank you
[00:43] <azizLIGHT> i plugged in a mic on front panel of my pc and looked in sound settings input and i dont see any indicator whether mics working or not. how can i test
[00:44] <kristian_on_linu> hi
[00:44] <kristian_on_linu> I have Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter and it keeps disconnecting
[00:47] <adalbert> Help, Thunar shows date modified in German instead of English ... fix ?
[00:55] <adalbert> nvm, I found the fix ...
[01:10] <azizLIGHT> how do i tell if mic is working or not
[01:12] <reisio> azizLIGHT: arecord
[01:12] <reisio> http://talky.io/
[01:15] <excelsiora> did you guys know about pam_environment?
[01:31] <arooni> is there any way to run android apps on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[01:34] <adalbert> Genymotion ...?
[01:36] <countingdaisies> If I have more than one php application installed and they both require a different version to run, what is the right way to handle that?
[01:40] <usbtty0> hello
[01:40] <usbtty0> guys I need help
[01:41] <usbtty0> I installed a PCIe serial port on my PC
[01:41] <usbtty0> and I'm trying to console into linux via putty on another computer via this serial connection
[01:41] <usbtty0> But it's not working
[01:42] <bazhang> usbtty0, what version of ubuntu
[01:42] <usbtty0> any ideas on how to go about setting this up?
[01:42] <usbtty0> bazhang: would it matter? >.>
[01:42] <bazhang> usbtty0, how is this related to ubuntu at all
[01:42] <usbtty0> bazhang: ...
[01:42] <usbtty0> I don't quite understand what you're asking me
[01:43] <usbtty0> if you don't/can't approach this question, just disregard it
[01:43] <bazhang> usbtty0, this is ubuntu support only, thats why it matters
[01:43] <usbtty0> 16.04 LTS
[01:43] <usbtty0> that's what it is
[01:44] <Cust0sLim3n> hi
[01:44] <Cust0sLim3n> what is the mdadm channel ?
[01:45] <bazhang>  /msg alis list mdadm Cust0sLim3n
[01:45] <bazhang> #freenode for more assistance Cust0sLim3n
[01:45] <Cust0sLim3n> bazhang, I did do alis
[01:48] <ohnx> Cust0sLim3n: are you sure there is a mdadm channel?
[01:48] <Cust0sLim3n> ohnx, not really - I faintly remember there being one
[01:48] <Cust0sLim3n> but maybe I'm wrong
[01:48] <Cust0sLim3n> I think it was something odd with md in the name
[01:49] <usbtty0> bazhang: any ideas?
[01:49] <Cust0sLim3n> ah linux-raid
[01:49] <Cust0sLim3n> or to be more precise #linux-raid
[01:52] <MarkB2> Most of the unix and linux systems I've worked on have /etc/inittab .  This is the file that launches getty's against serial ports.
[01:53] <MarkB2> That doesn't seem to exist in ubuntu 16.04.1 .
[01:54] <Cust0sLim3n> MarkB2, pretty sure most modern linux does not have it either
[01:54] <Cust0sLim3n> not there in rhel7.2
[01:54] <Cust0sLim3n> not on fedora either
[01:55] <arooni> how to solve Failed to load libGL.so
[01:55] <arooni> ubuntu 16.04
[01:55] <Cust0sLim3n> arooni, I think you probbably have wrong drivers installed
[01:55] <Cust0sLim3n> arooni, like your libGL is from nvidia and you have ati or something
[01:55] <MarkB2> I am lusing my mind. I am trying to open a serial port, /dev/ttyS2, and something else has it open so I can't.
[01:55] <gLouL> I think UBUNTU is the best Linux out there
[01:55] <k1l> MarkB2: inittab is sysvinit stuff. that is not a modern init at all.
[01:55] <Cust0sLim3n> MarkB2, on systemd distros /etc/inittab is replaced by systemd
[01:56] <Cust0sLim3n> gLouL, thas nais
[01:56] <gLouL> It is kinda dirty looking, but good on eyes
[01:56] <Bashing-om> MarkB2: inittab was the sequential system used to boot long ago . Went out with parallel booting .
[01:56] <Cust0sLim3n> MarkB2, systemctl list-units *tty*
[01:56] <gLouL> I had Fedora xfce, but it was hard on eyes
[01:57] <MarkB2> systemd .  Alright.  Please.. clue me in.  Where can I find the spot where it grabs /dev/ttyS2 ?
[01:57] <Cust0sLim3n> gLouL, change themes yerself ?
[01:57] <gLouL> I donno, which one is better for me
[01:57] <Cust0sLim3n> MarkB2, try systemctl start getty@ttyS2.service
[01:58] <Cust0sLim3n> MarkB2, if that is what you want I guess
[01:58] <gLouL> Ubuntu Unity is very Good
[01:58] <MarkB2> I don't want a service associated with the port.  I need to write software to communicate with an external instrument .. the instrument is connected to ttyS2 ..
[01:58] <MarkB2> If there's something running on that port, I want to stop it to release the port.
[01:58] <Cust0sLim3n> MarkB2, what would you have put in /etc/inittab ?
[01:58] <gLouL> Hi
[01:59] <Cust0sLim3n> MarkB2, bpaste output of this please systemctl list-units *tty*
[01:59] <MarkB2> Cust0slim3n: I would have commented out the line dealing with /dev/ttyS2 .  In some systems, that'd be a getty.
[01:59] <MarkB2> One moment.
[02:00] <MarkB2> It says, "0 loaded units listed"
[02:00] <Cust0sLim3n> MarkB2, maybe also ps -ef | grep ttyS2
[02:01] <Cust0sLim3n> MarkB2, when you try use ttyS2 - what error do you get ?
[02:02] <MarkB2> The only response from ps -ef | grep tty is Xorg on tty7 and agetty on tty1 .
[02:02] <orle> kann mir vieleicht jemand sagen warum mein wine nicht mehr funktioniert
[02:02] <MarkB2> That looks like nothing has a lock on ttyS2 .
[02:03] <k1l> orle: hier wird englisch geschrieben. in #ubuntu-de ist deutsch
[02:04] <MarkB2> setserial -g /dev/ttyS[0-3]  reports there are serial ports.
[02:05] <MarkB2> minicom appears to open the port.. but keybashing there produces nothing on the external device (a windows-box running putty).
[02:05] <MarkB2> Running putty on ubundu always errors out with a complaint that it can't initialize the port.
[02:06] <k1l> MarkB2: did you try screen for serial console?
[02:07] <MarkB2> I've even tried opening the port using fd = open("/dev/ttyS2", O_RDWR);  The open succeeds... but tcgetattr() fails .
[02:07] <MarkB2> screen for serial?  Not familiar.. don't recall using it.
[02:07]  * MarkB2 does a man screen ...
[02:08] <k1l> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto
[02:08] <MarkB2> AHA.  Thank you.  Will go look.
[02:10] <MarkB2> I have seen that web page before.
[02:10] <MarkB2> upstart gave an weird error.. it couldn't communicate with a service to start the port?
[02:11] <k1l> 16.04 is not running upstart as init. its using systemd
[02:11] <MarkB2> Okay.. which explains why I didn't get anywhere with that web page.
[02:12] <k1l> i linked that because at the end it shows screen as a serial client
[02:12] <MarkB2> I didn't get that far down.. will go look.
[02:13] <MarkB2> I did add myself to the dialout group .
[02:14] <MarkB2> Not sure if I logged out and back in again. Will try .
[02:15] <adalbert> Anyone using gpg-zip ? I can't get the decrypt function working ...
[02:17] <parallel21> Why does date command output differ from timedatectl?
[02:17] <MarkB2> k1l: Okay.. logged out, logged in, I can use open() to opent he port but cannot retrieve parameters from /dev/ttyS2.
[02:17] <adalbert> whenever I try to decrypt a archive, I get this error stating the archive is not a tar bal.
[02:21] <Worm_in_a_Box> Any good reason why I should not run ubuntu 7.1?
[02:22] <k1l> Worm_in_a_Box: its out of support. dont run that
[02:22] <Worm_in_a_Box> But it is prettier.
[02:22] <Worm_in_a_Box> And I have a cd.
[02:22] <Worm_in_a_Box> I burned it myself.
[02:22] <MarkB2> k1l: Retrieved screen, it wanted a reboot.  It's doing that now.
[02:22] <k1l> Worm_in_a_Box: its not an option.
[02:22] <k1l> Worm_in_a_Box: then burn an actual supported ubuntu cd.
[02:23] <Worm_in_a_Box> I don't have any virgin cds lying around.
[02:23] <Worm_in_a_Box> I burned this one ten years ago.
[02:24] <k1l> Worm_in_a_Box: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases  other releases are not supported anymore
[02:24] <countingdaisies> Does anything in 16.04 that depends on php or it's version?
[02:24] <MarkB2> k1l: Screen says "[screen is terminating]"
[02:25] <k1l> countingdaisies: 16.04 got php7 in the repos. you can install that, but its not mandatory to run ubuntu
[02:25] <Worm_in_a_Box> k1l:  The cd is making funny noises.
[02:25] <Worm_in_a_Box> I can't bring myself to stop.
[02:26] <countingdaisies> k1l: thx
[02:26] <gnomethrower> Worm_in_a_Box: ubuntu 7.10 is hopelessly insecure by now :P
[02:27] <countingdaisies> k1l: What's the easiest way to downgrade to 5.6?
[02:27] <MarkB2> I see in dmesg that a "Serial" thing is being installed. But now I'm wondering if I'm missing a modprobe somewhere.
[02:28] <k1l> countingdaisies: from 14.04 to 16.04 ubuntu changed to php7. i guess best is to upgrade the software in use to be safe for the future. there are ppas, which offer other php version, but that is on own risk then.
[02:28] <Worm_in_a_Box> gnomethrower: Worse than windows xp?
[02:29] <k1l> Worm_in_a_Box: its not an option.
[02:29] <countingdaisies> k1l: I'm not sure that's possible. It's an obscure php application (open source), and the guy is using break in places that are no longer permitted after php 7 (I think that's what's up). I though about refactoring the code, but there's gotta be an easier way than that.
[02:29] <Worm_in_a_Box> It is done.
[02:30] <Worm_in_a_Box> I even told it to automatically partition.
[02:30] <Worm_in_a_Box> That is how much I trust ubuntu 7.1.
[02:30] <k1l> Worm_in_a_Box: this is your own thing now and is outside of the scope of this channel.
[02:30] <Worm_in_a_Box> What could possibly go wrong?
[02:30] <gnomethrower> Worm_in_a_Box: Not worse than unpatched Windows XP
[02:30] <gnomethrower> Worm_in_a_Box: But probably worse than fully patched XP
[02:30] <Worm_in_a_Box> k1l: I will need help  upgrading it later, don't be mean.
[02:30] <countingdaisies> How do I know the break isn't some kinda hack and if I remove it the whole thing'll fall apart? lol
[02:31] <k1l> Worm_in_a_Box: its not mean. i told you this the whole evening now.
[02:32] <Worm_in_a_Box> It is the only way that I have of eventually installing a stable supported release.
[02:33] <gnomethrower> Worm_in_a_Box: Upgrading that many times is hardly going to give you a "supported" release.
[02:33] <gnomethrower> I mean ****, I had a system break going from 6.06 LTS to 6.10...
[02:33] <k1l> countingdaisies: see this http://askubuntu.com/questions/761713/how-can-i-downgrade-from-php-7-to-php-5-6-on-ubuntu-16-04  but again: this is a 3rd party PPA and possible issues cant be supported in here
[02:33] <maddawg2> question.. need help with vi command...  is there a simple way to save a txt file i am working on in one directory and open it fom the new location in one command?
[02:34] <Worm_in_a_Box> gnomethrower: I could not use the USB ports or internet in WinXP :P
[02:34] <k1l> Worm_in_a_Box: no its not. get a supported release on cd/dvd or usb. or do a pxe install or such.
[02:34] <Worm_in_a_Box> It was that broken.
[02:34] <countingdaisies> cool
[02:35] <Worm_in_a_Box> Can we talk about lubuntu here?
[02:35] <cfhowlett> Worm_in_a_Box, speak
[02:35] <gnomethrower> Worm_in_a_Box: yes, because lubuntu is an official spin
[02:36] <Worm_in_a_Box> Cool, thanks.
[02:36] <Worm_in_a_Box> Can I install lubuntu directly from ubuntu without the need to boot from usb/cd?
[02:37] <k1l> Worm_in_a_Box: look at debootstrap
[02:37] <snowkidind> I have a general home - hosting question. my isp is blocking port 80 to my computer. Is there a way to use my dyn host to change the port from 80-something else automatically?
[02:38] <snowkidind> I know its OT can you suggest a group for this question?
[02:38] <Worm_in_a_Box> Cool, thanks.
[02:38] <cfhowlett> #networking snowkidind
[02:38] <snowkidind> cool thx
[02:38] <maddawg2> snowkidind, you could just host on a different port
[02:38] <maddawg2> like 8080
[02:38] <snowkidind> yea
[02:38] <snowkidind> but
[02:39] <snowkidind> how to get my dynamic dns host to accept port 80 and forward through the iso
[02:39] <snowkidind> isp*
[02:39] <maddawg2> what do  you mean?
[02:39] <snowkidind> on a different port
[02:39] <maddawg2> you just add :8080 to the weburl it gives you
[02:40] <maddawg2> so whatever dydns domain name you get just add :8080
[02:40] <snowkidind> i have links to my website externally that I am unable to update
[02:40] <maddawg2> alternatively you can get a reverse proxy
[02:40] <maddawg2> but that might cost a something
[02:40] <snowkidind> I need to just be able to typee in the domain.
[02:40] <maddawg2> a reverse proxy would bypass the port 80 thing altogether
[02:41] <maddawg2> but to anyone on the outside it'd look like a full domain name
[02:41] <maddawg2> with no port
[02:41] <maddawg2> thats how my site runs
[02:41] <maddawg2> just port 80 to everyone else, then the proxy would forward to port 8080 on your side
[02:41] <arooni> how do i get ./GuitarPro: /opt/GuitarPro6/./libz.so.1: version `ZLIB_1.2.3.3' not found (required by /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libxml2.so.2) ;; zlib on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[02:41] <maddawg2> but you wouldnt have to change the links
[02:41] <snowkidind> Im using dyn.com dns service
[02:42] <maddawg2> yes i know
[02:42] <maddawg2> as do i
[02:42] <newtonius> send nudes
[02:42] <maddawg2> but if you had a reverse proxy you wouldnt really need to
[02:42] <snowkidind> so it needs to come from dyn.com as port 80
[02:42] <snowkidind> not 80
[02:42] <maddawg2> what?
[02:42] <snowkidind> 	so it needs to come from dyn.com *not as port 80
[02:42] <snowkidind> because isp blocks 80
[02:43] <snowkidind> it worked for a month they they cut it off the effers
[02:43] <snowkidind> never had the issue with verizon
[02:43] <snowkidind> cpu's been online for years
[02:44] <maddawg2> i'm on verizon fios
[02:44] <maddawg2> porot 80 is not blocked here
[02:44] <maddawg2> port*
[02:44] <snowkidind> yeah, sigh
[02:44] <snowkidind> i am saving $$$ a lot
[02:44] <maddawg2> also had it working on RCN when i was in Boston
[02:44] <arooni> fixed it
[02:45] <maddawg2> so i'm suprised they block it there
[02:45] <snowkidind> what do you get when you click: http://snowkidind.com
[02:45] <maddawg2> you can use any port you like with dyndns
[02:45] <maddawg2> they simply give you a hostname
[02:45] <maddawg2> or rather a dns
[02:46] <maddawg2> dyndns isnt port specific
[02:46] <maddawg2> times out snowkidind but are you sure you're just not configuring your router right?
[02:46] <snowkidind> can you change the A-Record to reflect the port?
[02:46] <maddawg2> no
[02:46] <cfhowlett> snowkidind, isup.me reports it's down
[02:46] <maddawg2> it's not meant for that
[02:46] <snowkidind> i have port 8- forwarderd
[02:46] <maddawg2> that's not dyndns is
[02:47] <maddawg2> if you dont want to change the port then your only way is a reverse proxy
[02:47] <maddawg2> which essnetially listens to anything on port 80 and forwards to 8080
[02:47] <maddawg2> which is what i do right now (but to port 32400)
[02:47] <maddawg2> on port 80
[02:47] <maddawg2> since my server only listens on that port
[02:48] <maddawg2> sorta
[02:48] <maddawg2> hard to explain
[02:48] <snowkidind> i dont really understand how I would apply that. I did something like that getting ruby and node to work with apache
[02:48] <maddawg2> but if you had a cheap VPS with a static IP for cheap money you'd be able to do it
[02:48] <maddawg2> what?
[02:48] <maddawg2> no apache has the ability built in
[02:48] <maddawg2> mod_proxy
[02:48] <maddawg2> it's part of Apache
[02:48] <snowkidind> yea
[02:49] <snowkidind> i would think that I could tweak the ip daemon with the port number
[02:49] <maddawg2> what ip daemon?
[02:49] <maddawg2> they simply need to type in 8080
[02:49] <snowkidind> hold on let me remember
[02:49] <maddawg2> lol
[02:49] <snowkidind> ddclient
[02:50] <maddawg2> hell you could in theory just use a reverse proxy on 8080 and forward to port 80
[02:50] <snowkidind> like ddclient sends dyn.com the 123.123.12.1:123
[02:50] <maddawg2> that's for updating dns
[02:50] <maddawg2> dns has nothing to do with ports
[02:50] <snowkidind> then i  forward 123 to 80 in my router
[02:50] <maddawg2> thats not what a dns does
[02:51] <maddawg2> lol
[02:51] <maddawg2> dns can be used for ANY service
[02:51] <maddawg2> YOU have to add the port to the request you send
[02:51] <snowkidind> oh yea ok
[02:51] <snowkidind> frackn isps and their propietary bs
[02:51] <maddawg2> but you can simply set apache up to listen on another port
[02:51] <snowkidind> i am aware of that
[02:51] <maddawg2> user types in 8080
[02:51] <maddawg2> and then apache forweards to the correct page
[02:51] <maddawg2> no need to change links
[02:51] <maddawg2> apache does it for you
[02:52] <snowkidind> that messes me up because then i have to add a port to every damn url i ever use
[02:52] <maddawg2> no you dont
[02:52] <maddawg2> READ
[02:52] <maddawg2> apache DOES IT FOR YOU IF YOU SET IT UP CORRECTLY
[02:52] <maddawg2> just use a rewrite rule
[02:52] <snowkidind> the packet never gets to the computer because the isp blocks everything
[02:52] <snowkidind> that goes to 8p
[02:52] <snowkidind> 80
[02:52] <Worm_in_a_Box> Ok, I got internets.
[02:52] <snowkidind> i dont understand how apace can change a packet it never receives
[02:53] <maddawg2> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8541182/apache-redirect-to-another-port
[02:53] <maddawg2> NO'
[02:53] <maddawg2> use port 8080
[02:53] <snowkidind> btw thanks for helping me
[02:53] <maddawg2> not port 80
[02:54] <maddawg2> it LISTENS on port 8080 says oh here is a connection on port 8080.. but page is not set to have this port in URL let me rewrite it and forward to page
[02:54] <maddawg2> thats all done by apache
[02:54] <Flannel> maddawg2: snowkidind is correct.  If the ISP blocks port 80, then anyone trying to browse to his server will need to manually type the port in to their address.
[02:54] <maddawg2> no i am correct
[02:54] <maddawg2> thats what i said
[02:55] <maddawg2> i'm saying he can configure apache so he doesnt need to redo all his urls as a result
[02:55] <maddawg2> apache will handle forwarding the page correctly
[02:55] <snowkidind> ennh id rather just have it worked out before it ever hits the server
[02:55] <maddawg2> that cant be done snowkidind
[02:55] <maddawg2> thats not what dns is
[02:55] <Flannel> Well, the URLs are all after the port to begin with, so... you don't need to redo any URLs anyway.
[02:55] <snowkidind> at that point i can just grab 8080 in the router anf forward to 80
[02:56] <maddawg2> you could do that too
[02:56] <maddawg2> but you need to understand that it has to hit your router for anything to be done with it
[02:56] <maddawg2> dyndns is not a routing service
[02:56] <maddawg2> it's a dns service
[02:56] <snowkidind> i can do this with aws
[02:56] <maddawg2> yes
[02:56] <maddawg2> which is waht i said
[02:56] <maddawg2> a vps
[02:56] <snowkidind> why dont I just do that
[02:56] <snowkidind> i have one already
[02:57] <snowkidind> i was hoping I could just use dyn tho
[02:57] <maddawg2> a cheap vps (which is what a aws is basically)
[02:57] <maddawg2> nope
[02:57] <maddawg2> that's dns
[02:57] <maddawg2> not routing
[02:57] <maddawg2> it does no routing and is not aware of any ports at all
[02:57] <snowkidind> apparently so
[02:57] <maddawg2> as the dns name can be used for any service on the server
[02:57] <snowkidind> dammit
[02:57] <snowkidind> they need to get with the times
[02:57] <maddawg2> .....
[02:57] <maddawg2> what
[02:57] <maddawg2> no one does that
[02:57] <maddawg2> lol
[02:57] <maddawg2> because it's not possible
[02:57] <maddawg2> it's a DNS service
[02:59] <snowkidind> ok i will take a break from this computer boxing match ding ding. chick in a bikini. Will consider how to resolve using aws
[02:59] <maddawg2> you could host the page on aws
[02:59] <snowkidind> nah. i am streaming pandora in my house
[02:59] <snowkidind> from afar
[03:00] <snowkidind> among other things
[03:00] <snowkidind> raspberry pi stuff
[03:00] <maddawg2> but other than that the only way on aws is to do a proxy to your home server on port 8080
[03:00] <snowkidind> thats the ticket
[03:00] <snowkidind> and i know aws
[03:01] <snowkidind> so how to link dyn to aws and update the ip appropriately
[03:01] <maddawg2> if they did what you suggested  (by adding the port number to the end of your dns) it wouldnt ever work because the application you use passes the port
[03:01] <snowkidind> +1
[03:01] <maddawg2> it'd be <youripaddress8080>:8080
[03:01] <maddawg2> errr not even 8080 at the end.. the user would still have to type that in lol
[03:01] <maddawg2> because the web application is what makes the connection on port 80
[03:02] <snowkidind> that makes sense to me now
[03:02] <snowkidind> i realized that when you said it
[03:03] <snowkidind> so if I was to run the opposite of ddclient on my aws vps, what program would that be?
[03:03] <maddawg2> but yes a work around is to use AWS have a reverse proxy set to listen on port 80 but then forward all the requests to your house on 8080 (assuming you dont want to move your website to the AWS)
[03:03] <maddawg2> opposite of ddclient?
[03:03] <maddawg2> there is no oppossite
[03:03] <maddawg2> it's a dns updater
[03:03] <snowkidind> im fine with that - can just set it in the router
[03:04] <maddawg2> you dont need a dns updater if you have a static ip
[03:04] <maddawg2> which i image AWS does
[03:04] <snowkidind> yea, but i need to somehow manage the dynamic ip if i forward the service to aws
[03:04] <maddawg2> imagine*
[03:04] <maddawg2> what?
[03:04] <snowkidind> yea the instances are static
[03:04] <maddawg2> your forwarding from AWS
[03:04] <maddawg2> not TO
[03:04] <snowkidind> but my house has a dynamic ip
[03:04] <maddawg2> yes but you just use your dydns hostname in the apache settings
[03:05] <Worm_in_a_Box> What is the latest lubuntu release?
[03:05] <maddawg2> on aws
[03:05] <cfhowlett> Worm_in_a_Box, 16.10 is the latest *buntu
[03:05] <maddawg2> when you set up the proxypass when you provide the address it's passing it to just provide the dyndns name
[03:05] <maddawg2> the end user will never see it
[03:05] <Worm_in_a_Box> How do I install it through debootstraP?
[03:06] <cfhowlett> !install | Worm_in_a_Box
[03:06] <snowkidind> so do i still need to run ddclient on the local machine
[03:06] <maddawg2> yes
[03:06] <maddawg2> but thats it
[03:06] <snowkidind> and it now points to amazon
[03:06] <snowkidind> no?
[03:06] <maddawg2> um no
[03:06] <snowkidind> seems like it would be easier if i transferred the domain to aws
[03:06] <maddawg2> you are going to need a different domain name for your home than what your site uses on the public facing side
[03:07] <maddawg2> yes i would do that
[03:07] <maddawg2> but you still need a dyndns client to deal with forwarding
[03:07] <snowkidind> right
[03:07] <maddawg2> but the ddclient is on your local machine at home
[03:07] <maddawg2> with a differnet hostname than what people go  to your page as (they will never see this)
[03:07] <maddawg2> but to be honest it'd prob be easier to just move the whole page to AWS
[03:07] <snowkidind> or just use an ip?
[03:08] <maddawg2> yes but you'll have to change it when your ip changes
[03:08] <snowkidind> ok the raspberry pi cannot  go to aws
[03:08] <maddawg2> thats why i recommend a dyndns
[03:08] <snowkidind> well its clearly going to be a twitch
[03:08] <maddawg2> i actually manually change my IP on my dns every time my ip changes
[03:09] <maddawg2> it doesnt happen that often for me... after power outtages but that's about it
[03:09] <snowkidind> that will keep it fresh
[03:09] <maddawg2> every 4 months it seems
[03:09] <maddawg2> well dydns would keep it fresh
[03:09] <snowkidind> lol
[03:09] <maddawg2> it would change it the SECOND it changes without me doing anything
[03:11] <Worm_in_a_Box> debootstrap --arch i386 ???? /mnt//???? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[03:12] <Worm_in_a_Box> Do I just replace ???? with lubuntu for the latest version?
[03:12] <snowkidind> i gotta go look at the route 53 controls
[03:13] <cfhowlett> Worm_in_a_Box, https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap
[03:15] <Worm_in_a_Box> Did read that.
[03:15] <Worm_in_a_Box> Still not much about lubuntu.
[03:15] <cfhowlett> Worm_in_a_Box, ??? it specifically tells you how to install ubntu!
[03:16] <Worm_in_a_Box> I want to install lubuntu, not ubuntu.
[03:16] <cfhowlett> dude. lubuntu installation = ubuntu installation.  get the correct .iso but the PROCESS is identical
[03:17] <Worm_in_a_Box> Which is why I asked for the name of the current version and if simply throwing lubuntu instead of xenial or whatever would work...
[03:18] <cfhowlett> Worm_in_a_Box, xenial is the latest version of ubuntu.  lubuntu is a *flavor* of ubuntu, i.e. an official, supported version.
[03:22] <cfhowlett> so there is, in fact, a "Xenial" Lubuntu, but let us be precise: Lubuntu 16.04.1 is the .iso you want
[03:32] <snowkidind> maddawg2 8080 will do for the time being. annoying to have to remember that, but I guess I will be reminded when it does not work
[03:34] <snowkidind> I want to figure out how to forward my pianobar stream to my laptop when I am out of the country - but that's another subject altogether
[03:36] <Worm_in_a_Box> FATAL: kernel too old
[03:36] <Worm_in_a_Box> Netboot did not work.
[03:40] <Xz> ok, I'm losing my faith in having dual boot with Ubuntu on USB stick in my current setup employing TPM, UEFI, SecureBoot and bitlocker
[03:40] <Xz> however, I can successfully boot ubuntu live
[03:41] <Xz> is it ok to run from customized ubuntu live regular operating system
[03:41] <Xz> ?
[03:41] <Xz> what cons and what challenges would I get?
[03:45] <cyberfall> hello can someone help me with find a log that may shead light on why my computer freeze up.. i have a nvidia gpu and if i set it to the generic nvidia it does ok but my tv screen rolls and wont change off 50 hz to 60 hz. so im force to use the nvidia driver. also my video card is a old 7300le so i cant use a updated version
[03:46] <cyberfall> this all started when i upgraded my lubuntu from 16.04 to 16.10
[03:46] <COSL04X> cyberfall: what logs have you looked at so far ?
[03:47] <cyberfall> the ones in /var/logs
[03:47] <cyberfall> i do have a program that runs off of java for net filtering but seem i cant hunt down it log file either..
[03:48] <COSL04X> cyberfall: how did you update ?
[03:48] <COSL04X> cyberfall: OS reinstall or full upgrade ?
[03:48] <cyberfall> id switch out the nvidia for a ati x300 but it lock the tv screen res to 800x600 the nvidia i can take the old crt to 1024x786
[03:49] <cyberfall> the past 3 updates have been script upgrade not clean install
[03:49] <Ben64> you should use an older version of ubuntu
[03:49] <cyberfall> went from 15.x to 16.04 to 16.10
[03:50] <dkbas> hi
[03:50] <COSL04X> cyberfall: I would uninstall nvidia and roll down to a lower gpu driver
[03:50] <COSL04X> What is the driver tool recommednign you use ?
[03:50] <Worm_in_a_Box> I will just upgrade from the old repository.
[03:50] <Ben64> 16.10 doesn't have the legacy drivers anymore
[03:50] <Worm_in_a_Box> What could possibly go wrong?
[03:50] <Ben64> i'd use 14.04 on something that olde
[03:50] <cyberfall> will the backport have the driver?
[03:51] <Ben64> no
[03:51] <COSL04X> cyberfall: with older hardware stick the the LTS or older
[03:51] <Ben64> 16.04 doesn't even have it anymore
[03:51] <Ben64> needs to be 14.04
[03:52] <Bashing-om> cyberfall: Matching the card to the drivr . Pastebin the return of terminal command ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ; dkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[03:52] <cyberfall> the additional driver suggest the 304.. and the repos under search for nvidia say 304 is the lowest driver
[03:53] <Ben64> oh apparently 304 does support it, thought it would have had to been 173
[03:53] <COSL04X> cyberfall: you will need the leagacy 173, thats older
[03:53] <evade> Hey ya all. Has anyone had issues installing 16.10 on a brand new dell xps? When I disable secure boot and turn enable legacy booting ubuntu cant see my 256 ssd. Any thoughts?
[03:53] <Ben64> according to nvidia, 304 supports 7000 series
[03:53] <Bashing-om> cyberfall: 304 is the correct version driver, per : http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html .
[03:54] <cyberfall> will lubuntu 16.10 use the 173 ?
[03:54] <Ben64> !info nvidia-304
[03:54] <Ben64> there you go, thats what you need, available in 16.10
[03:54] <cyberfall> yea but the one from repso for 16.10 isnt as good as the one from 16.04 cant do jack with the nvidia setting
[03:55] <COSL04X> evade: Why disable secure boot first of all, are you planing on multi-OS config ?
[03:55] <cyberfall> but the thing is i cant id if the driver is cause the system to freeze up or if something else is going bonkers
[03:55] <evade> I tried leaving it on but i still go the same result.
[03:56] <Ben64> evade: how is the ssd connected
[03:56] <COSL04X> evade: what mode is your drive controller set to in BIOSS?UEFI ?
[03:56] <evade> In the bios it says raid. A google search said to disable that and that did nothing.
[03:57] <Ben64> what option is there besides raid
[03:57] <COSL04X> evade: I mean is it running in ACHI for example
[03:57] <Ben64> and again, how is it connected
[03:57] <COSL04X> AHCI
[03:57] <evade> COSL04X: AHCI
[03:57] <cyberfall> i also have problem power the system up i get kernal panics from time to time which dont get log..
[03:58] <evade> Ben64:  there is option for raid, ahci, and turn off.
[03:58] <cyberfall> kernal sync errors i should say like the VFS etc
[03:58] <Ben64> you want ahci
[03:58] <COSL04X> evade: what's the drive, SATA, M.2 SATA, M.2 NVMe ?
[03:58] <Ben64> and one more time, how is it connected
[03:59] <evade> Its m.2 sata
[03:59] <Ben64> are you in a livecd now
[03:59] <MarkB2> I'm running Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS 64-bit. A document I've been reading says I need to disable getty on /dev/ttyS2.  this thing is running systemd, something I'm not familiar with.  How can I disable getty on that port?
[03:59] <Ben64> MarkB2: why do you need to
[04:00] <MarkB2> I've got an Intel Joule and need to connect the serial port wired to that port to an external instrument and to communicate with it.
[04:01] <evade> Ben64: Not right now. Windows is resting. I got to the point where it would not boot any more so I am waiting for Windows to finish resetting.
[04:01] <MarkB2> I've been unable to get anything to iniailize the port properly...and found the reference to getty on that port.
[04:02] <MarkB2> Here's the reference: http://iotdk.intel.com/docs/master/mraa/grossetete.html
[04:03] <Ben64> MarkB2: "sudo chmod 000 /etc/init/tty2.conf" ?
[04:03] <evade> Once WIndows finishes doing its reset I will boot into livecd.
[04:04] <Ben64> there might be a better way but that should work
[04:04] <MarkB2> I'll check.
[04:04] <Worm_in_a_Box> Should I reboot between distro upgrades?
[04:04] <Ben64> what is a distro upgrade
[04:05] <MarkB2> Ben64: Okay, it's rebooting now.
[04:05] <Worm_in_a_Box> It is when you start with ubuntu 7 and try to upgrade your way to 17.
[04:05] <Ben64> then yes
[04:06] <Ben64> sounds like a not fun time though
[04:06] <Worm_in_a_Box> Fun is for those with blank CDs.
[04:06] <Ben64> or a flash drive
[04:07] <Worm_in_a_Box> BIOs won't boot from usb.
[04:07] <Ben64> time for a new computer
[04:07] <MarkB2> Ben64:  oops.  That was /etc/init/tty2.conf ?  That's different than /dev/ttyS2
[04:07] <Ben64> MarkB2: yep
[04:07] <Worm_in_a_Box> I am poor.
  I'll probably have to turn it back on.  I hope I haven't bricked the thing.
[04:09] <MarkB2> Ben64: Okay... didn't brick it.
[04:09] <Ben64> yeah it wouldn't
[04:11] <MarkB2> My software can open the port.. I get a positive fd for open("/dev/ttyS2", O_RDWR);  but can't retrieve any settings.
[04:12] <Ben64> do you see getty actually running on that port
[04:12] <Ben64> i don't see anything like that here
[04:12] <MarkB2> I don't see a getty on the port.  But I can't think of anything else that ubuntu or Intel would have done to it.
[04:12] <uxfi> hello
[04:14] <MarkB2> Just found something else to try.  Back in a bit.
[04:22] <MarkB2> Ben64: The platform is an Intel Joule.  That link I posted made mention of using the MRAA library to talk to peripherals.
[04:22] <MarkB2> So I tried an example shown on the Intel MRAA site.
[04:22] <MarkB2> Fail.
[04:26] <freefall> old tech but what are the odds of a ide cable going bad and it hardly ever moved or unplug?
[04:26] <cfhowlett> freefall, *t happens.
[04:26] <freefall> will it cause sync errors?
[04:26] <freefall> kernal panic
[04:26] <MarkB2> Ben64: Tried an alternate method of dealing with the serial port.  Still no dice.
[04:27] <cfhowlett> if it can't communicate with the installed OS --- yes
[04:27] <freefall> it only happens on boot up after the system been off for a bit. after 2 or three reboots it runs for a while
[04:28] <cfhowlett> freefall, sounds like catastrophic failure is in your future.  plan accordingly
[04:29] <freefall> how do i identify what is about to go poof
[04:30] <freefall> the sys logs dont show the boot error or kernal panics
[04:30] <cfhowlett> freefall, boot from alternate source; usb/cdrom.  if that flys, assume HDD issues
[04:30] <freefall> suggestion for doing HD test? herns or what?
[04:31] <cfhowlett> freefall, smartmontools? depending on your hardware
[04:31] <freefall> old p4 HT
[04:31] <cfhowlett>        !  really?  running ubuntu or *buntu?
[04:33] <bill_> 1
[04:33] <bill_> 12345
[04:33] <bill_> Hello
[04:35] <apollo11w> Welcome, panikovsky
[04:39] <icedwater> l
[04:40] <Worm_in_a_Box> Well.
[04:40] <icedwater> Oops hi. I wonder if there is a way to reset my locale settings, I haven't been able to reconfigure them to get my gnome-terminal to work again.
[04:40] <Worm_in_a_Box> I wonder if five hours from now I won't just buy the damned cd
[04:40] <Worm_in_a_Box> And do a proper install.
[04:41] <cfhowlett> Worm_in_a_Box, you do know that you can upgrade from LTS to LTS, right?  i.e. 10.04 > 12.04, etc?
[04:41] <Worm_in_a_Box> Yeah.
[04:41] <Worm_in_a_Box> I am following the EOLUpgrades guide.
[04:42] <Worm_in_a_Box> From gutsu to hardy, from hardy to lucid.
[04:42] <freefall> cfhowlett lubuntu
[04:43] <Worm_in_a_Box> I am probably wasting more on energy than I am saving from the CD>
[04:43] <cfhowlett> outstanding, freefall
[04:43] <Worm_in_a_Box> But I suppose that I am not a very wise man.
[04:43] <freefall> there no way i could do ubuntu on a 7300le
[04:44] <freefall> i got lubuntu on a old amd x2 5000 with a gig of ram and a 6600 onboard working..
[04:44] <cfhowlett> niiiiiiiiiice
[04:49] <Darmani> Hi everyone! I used sudo apt-get --purge remove wine <-  to get rid of wine
[04:49] <Darmani> But whenever I type in wine it still shows up like it's there.
[04:49] <Darmani> wat do.
[04:49] <Xz> Darmani: have a beer instead
[04:49] <wmwm> Lol. nerd joke
[04:50] <Darmani> Xz: Lol what kind?
[04:50] <Xz> Darmani: maybe you have 2 versions of wine ?
[04:50] <wmwm> Why do you want to get rid of it?
[04:50] <Xz> Darmani: happened to me once, apt-get then gets confused
[04:51] <Xz> Darmani: use dpkg to list all *wine* pkgs
[04:51] <Darmani> wmwm: Seems to be errors in the version or something. Error keeps popping up so I was going to install another version.
[04:51] <Xz> Darmani: to confirm what you have and what you removed
[04:51] <Darmani> Xz: Yeah I think I do.
[04:51] <Xz> Darmani: I think syntax is something like 'dpkg --get-selections | grep wine'
[04:51] <wmwm> did you apt get install it? I'm used to debian but I think it's the same package manager right?
[04:52] <Darmani> Well I installed it through the Ubuntu Package manager first and then I uninstalled it and used sudo apt-get wine
[04:52] <Guest81> should be apt-get install wine..
[04:53] <Darmani> Guest81: yeah it was I'm just to lazy to write install =p
[04:53] <Darmani> Xz: Btw thanks, I see like three different versions I installed xD
[04:53] <Darmani> I'm dumb.
[04:54] <Xz> Darmani: uninstall all of them using dpkg
[04:54] <Xz> Darmani: and then you are good to go back to apt-get
[04:54] <Xz> apt-get works on top of dpkg in general
[04:54] <cfhowlett> Darmani, sudo apt autoremove
[04:55] <Darmani> sweet.
[04:56] <Darmani> Question, I'm on Ubuntu 16.04, which version of Wine should I use? o.o
[04:56] <COSL04X> Darmani: depends on what you want to run with it
[04:56] <Xz> Darmani: I would probably go with standard version, that installs after 'apt-get install wine'
[04:56] <Xz> Darmani: unless you want specific one
[04:56] <Darmani> Just playing video games probably. Like Hearthstone. Lol
[04:56] <amazonian_toad> I'm trying to use pip to install urllib3[socks] but all I'm getting is an install for pysocks of python2.7, not Python3
[04:57] <Xz> Darmani: start with just 'apt-get install wine'
[04:57] <COSL04X> Darmani: if you are gonna play games use the PlayOnLinux front-end
[04:57] <Xz> Darmani: and then if you have any troubles - you will get picky about particular version
[04:57] <Xz> Darmani: and work from there
[04:57] <Xz> Darmani: there is big chance, standard wversion provided by Ubuntu will be good for you
[04:57] <Darmani> COSL04X: There's some weird errors going on with that PoL. That's why I was using Wine instead.
[04:57] <Darmani> Xz: will do.
[04:59] <Darmani> Xz: Do I need to add any repos?
[04:59] <Darmani> For Wine?
[04:59] <Xz> Darmani: I don't know
[04:59] <Xz> Darmani: just do 'apt-get install wine' after you removed all versions you had
[04:59] <Xz> Darmani: and apt-get will tell you
[04:59] <Darmani> haha okay
[05:00] <Xz> Darmani: you need root permissions, so do 'sudo apt-get install wine'
[05:00] <Darmani> Xz: kk
[05:04] <Darmani> What in the fuck.
[05:04] <cfhowlett> no profanity here Darmani
[05:04] <Darmani> oh my bad
[05:05] <Darmani> it's sudo apt-get --purge "program_here" remove right?
[05:06] <p5eudo> remove before purge
[05:06] <Darmani> ah
[05:07] <Darmani> I remove one version of wine
[05:07] <Darmani> and another pops up
[05:07] <Darmani> wat
[05:08] <Darmani> I just removed 1.8 and now it's 1.6
[05:08] <Flannel> Darmani: How do you know you have 1.6 vs 1.8 before?
[05:08] <Darmani> Flannel: Sorry reverse that order it was 1.6 and now it's 1.8
[05:09] <Flannel> Darmani: ok, but same questio
[05:09] <Darmani> wine --version?
[05:09] <Flannel> Ok.  It's definitely possible that you had multiple versions installed.
[05:09] <Flannel> Darmani: what does `which wine` say is the path to the wine executable?
[05:10] <Darmani> Flannel: I'm new to Linux sorry, what's the command for that?
[05:10] <Flannel> Darmani: open a terminal and literally type `which wine` (without the quotes)
[05:10] <Darmani> ah
[05:10] <Darmani> '/usr/bin/wine'
[05:10] <Flannel> Darmani: the which command basically says "if I were to run command X, what file would it run"
[05:11] <Darmani> oh cool
[05:11] <Flannel> Darmani: Alright, so, now we can find out what package that file is in, with `dpkg -S /usr/bin/wine`
[05:12] <loki_> hello
[05:12] <Darmani> wine1.6-i386:i386: /usr/bin/wine <-
[05:13] <Flannel> Darmani: ok, so that package name is "wine1.6-i386".  Let me just clarify what you're trying to do before we go making changes.
[05:13] <Flannel> Darmani: You just want to install the latest wine from the repo? (and have it run when you run wine?)
[05:13] <Darmani> That's the plan.
[05:13] <Flannel> Darmani: Which version of ubuntu are you running?
[05:13] <Darmani> 16.04
[05:14] <Flannel> Darmani: Alright, that *looks* like it is the most current version of wine for 16.04
[05:15] <cfhowlett> !info wine xenial
[05:15] <Darmani> :o
[05:15] <Flannel> I mean, we can check to see if there's a minor update on the package, but it'll still end up with wine 1.6
[05:16] <Flannel> Darmani: Do you know you need a newer version? or what?
[05:16] <Darmani> Flannel: umm I was trying to install a game and it was coming across some errors I wasn't familiar with so I was going to install a different version of wine and see if that fixed it.
[05:17] <Flannel> Darmani: alright.  So, wine (winehq) does have an ubuntu repository that you can try.
[05:17] <Worm_in_a_Box> This is going to take a minute, isnt it?
[05:18] <Flannel> Darmani: And that repository has both the stable (1.8) and development (2.0) versions.  So, you can absolutely give them a try and see if they work.
[05:18] <Darmani> Flannel: Shouldn't I remove the versions I have first?
[05:18] <Flannel> Darmani: yes, that'll be the easiest.
[05:18] <bieqingui> QQ
[05:18] <Darmani> When I run the command to delete though it just switches versions, it doesn't seem to be gone :[
[05:19] <Flannel> Darmani: Not required, but probably will cause less confusion down the road.
[05:19] <Flannel> Darmani: I'm not sure what you were doing before, but lets do a couple of things to double check one thing before we try to remove this.
[05:19] <Flannel> Darmani: can you pastebin the output of `apt-cache policy wine wine1.6`
[05:19] <Darmani> yeah one sec
[05:20] <Flannel> Darmani: Oh, sorry, missed a package
[05:20] <Flannel> apt-cache policy wine wine1.6 wine1.6-i386
[05:21] <Xz> how do you switch desktops on ubuntu 16.04? ctrl+alt+right/left arrow don't work
[05:22] <Flannel> Worm_in_a_Box: You can ask your question before everything else in the channel is resolved, don't let it stop you.
[05:25] <mandeep> can someone recommend an alternative to libreoffice? the writer is awful for what i need
[05:26] <COSL04X> mandeep: systemd
[05:26] <COSL04X> that'sa joke btw
[05:26] <nedstark> mandeep, abiword and gnumeric
[05:26] <Worm_in_a_Box> Breadbox?
[05:27] <nedstark> if you need microsoft word you can use office 365
[05:27] <nedstark> web-based subscription
[05:27] <COSL04X> If you are always on the go, Google DOcs is a option
[05:27] <mandeep> nedstark: i have office 365 from school but i dont want my information to be on others' servers
[05:28] <mandeep> ill look into abiword
[05:31] <deus_402>  I cannot figure out why my computer running ubuntu 16.04 keeps losing it's internet connection. I have already troubleshot some problems with too many half open connections, i now have the limit set to 4096, and under heavy load there are only around 3000. that helped a lot, but when i am experiencing high traffic, i totally lose ethernet. to the point where the router doesn't even show that
[05:31] <deus_402> my computer is plugged in. the weird thing is that clicking on the ethernet icon in network manager makes everything come back, or if you wait 20-30 minutes it will come back on it's own. i'm not even sure where to start looking for trouble.
[05:33] <deus_402> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/143081447/ubuntu%20reconnect.jpg
[05:33] <COSL04X> deus_402: welcome back, done any troubleshooting 101, have you tried a live OS, or anything esle to rule out a software/conifg problem and not a dying NIC ?
[05:34] <deus_402> I have not tried a live os, i don't actually have physical access to the box on a regular basis.
[05:35] <COSL04X> Is this a rented box
[05:35] <COSL04X> and VM or dedicated system ?
[05:35] <deus_402> no.. dedicated system colocated at a buddies house that has gigabit internet.
[05:35] <deus_402> heh
[05:35] <COSL04X> I would try and rule out a hardware issue, even on the dummy/smart switch its plugged into
[05:36] <COSL04X> You don't see problems like this often
[05:36] <deus_402> any tips on how to do that?
[05:37] <deus_402> it's a pretty new build with onboard gigabit ethernet.
[05:37] <COSL04X> try and use a differet OS like  live boot option to rule ot software/config issue, and if its still there, try a different ethernet port, on the system, or the switch and cable
[05:38] <COSL04X> dont use the same OS flavor and version
[05:38] <COSL04X> so if you are running say CentOS6, run something else
[05:38] <tatertots> without "physical" access, the scope of the trouble shooting you can do is very limited deus_402
[05:38] <deus_402> well... the problem with that is that the problem only surfaces under high load.
[05:38] <tatertots> very limited
[05:38] <tatertots> being remote..all you can do it pray and hope it works...you can't actually do much about it from 10 miles away
[05:38] <deus_402> i mean, it's at my buddies house, so i can get access, but it's not like i can just go in the other room and check stuff right now.
[05:39] <COSL04X> deus_402: if it is high load, it could be a issue with the hardware they system talkes to, if the router has a maxed routing table, etc
[05:39] <deus_402> plugged into a technicolor C2000T modem
[05:40] <deus_402> modem/switch thingie.
[05:40] <tatertots> also with it being remote you cannot judge what other traffic is going on on it's infrastructure,
[05:41] <deus_402> it does not affect the rest of the network when the server goes offline. my buddy has been gaming while his wife was watching netflix while it has happened with no effect.
[05:41] <tatertots> so you're a one leg man in a triathlon foot race...you got one arm too
[05:41] <COSL04X> netflix dosn't help, that already can be a QoS issue
[05:41] <COSL04X> not saying its the root cause
[05:42] <tatertots> deus_402: you also cannot be in two places at once to trouble shot the pointA and pointB including everything in between
[05:44] <Xz> d
[05:44] <deus_402> also, QoS is disabled on the router, as well as the firewall for now for testing purposes.
[05:44] <enlightenmepls> hi folks. need help after installing ubuntu. when it restarted after the installation, I have a black screen with a flashing underscore
[05:45] <COSL04X> deus_402: I don't mean QoS exactly I mean more network packet prioritization
[05:45] <COSL04X> like VoIP
[05:45] <enlightenmepls> I'm confident that it has something to do with my graphics card, an Nvidia card
[05:46] <enlightenmepls> but everything displayed nicely when it was installing and when it asked to try it out.
[05:47] <Worm_in_a_Box> My terminal is having Satan doodling all over it instead of upgrading.]
[05:47] <Worm_in_a_Box> That can't be good.
[05:47] <deus_402> COSL04X, any idea of where to even start looking? i really don't suspect the ethernet controller is the issue, because I can saturate his gigabit connection with no issues....
[05:47] <duckgoose> Worm_in_a_Box just unplug it in the middle of the upgrade
[05:47] <duckgoose> what could go wrong
[05:48] <COSL04X> deus_402: and you are still running the gig ether with stock config other then your standard values ?
[05:48] <COSL04X> deus_402: I would also lookup the NICs controller and see if people have reported issues
[05:48] <enlightenmepls> can anyone help me out? all of these troubleshooting pages seem to be referencing changing the grub after it installed but I cannot access it after it boots up.. only during when I select the usb to run.
[05:49] <KodingKitty> guys there is a gtk+2.0 related bug there, the GtkFIleChooser save as dialog box is not modal.
[05:49] <deus_402> as soon as this thing comes back i can pastebin my sysctl.conf and maybe someone can tell me if it's sane.
[05:49] <KodingKitty> Just open the gedit program and hit save as button multiple times , it create multiple save as dialog boxes.
[05:49] <KodingKitty> This is soooooo wrong !
[05:50] <KodingKitty> Somebody please fix this.
[05:50] <Worm_in_a_Box> I can't, it sings to me.
[05:50] <KodingKitty> Worm_in_a_Box: are you in 16.04 ?
[05:50] <KodingKitty> BTW I only checked with 12.04 and 14.04.
[05:51] <KodingKitty> This bug sucks ! Please somebody fix this shitt !
[05:52] <KodingKitty> can somebody fix this thing ?
[05:52] <KodingKitty> oky please.
[05:53] <KodingKitty> where I should report this bug? because this is only happening in Ubuntu both 64-bit and 32-bit
[05:54] <enlightenmepls> too many question, not enough answers
[05:54] <deus_402> COSL04X: onboard ethernet controller seems to be an Intel I219-V Gigabit controller
[05:55] <KodingKitty> deus_402: ethtool /dev/eth0
[05:55] <COSL04X> deus_402: Intel is heavly supported, Check config later
[05:56] <KodingKitty> ya but sometimes firmware issues are there for new intel ethernet chips. New kernel need new firmware files.
[05:56] <KodingKitty> That broke when you compile the mainline kernel from the source.
[05:56] <KodingKitty> happened to my wifi card.
[05:56] <nedstark> KodingKitty, 14.04 is supported, but 12.04 isn't.  you can put bugs here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bugs
[05:57] <Worm_in_a_Box> KodingKitty: I am in 7.1.
[06:00] <KodingKitty> This bug need to be reported, this is not only for gedit, gpaint too, and for our sample application
[06:01] <KodingKitty> I think this is related to ubuntu gtk+2.0 but not in other distributions.
[06:01] <farhad> im installing snap-codelabs. but during download, i ctrl+c it. now i want to download. it give me this error: error: can't install "snap-codelabs": snap "ubuntu-core" has changes in progress
[06:01] <KodingKitty> pretty sure this will regenerate in 16.04 too, since not yet fixed this issue.
[06:01] <KodingKitty> These bugs sucks !
[06:01] <KodingKitty> I need a bug free system.
[06:02] <duckgoose> a bug that sucks?
[06:02] <KodingKitty> somebody have to fix it ASAP.
[06:08] <deus_402> COSL04X: http://pastebin.com/vEic1mZ9
[06:09] <COSL04X> deus_402: what are your reasons for adding custom setting in the first place ? what the box for ?
[06:10] <deus_402> entire output of netstat -atn right before crash: http://pastebin.com/vPHMHtrp
[06:11] <deus_402> COSL04X: it's a plex media server
[06:11] <h3n5y> hi
[06:11] <COSL04X> deus_402: what guide did you follow that suggesed the custom changes at the bottom ?
[06:12] <deus_402> several, including the one that eht linked last night. basically just googled around for linux ip tuning.
[06:13] <deus_402> https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-tcp-tuning/
[06:13] <COSL04X> deus_402: If I could read the guide for the reason for the changes I may be able to help, but by default Unless what you are doing is very specific and these changes HAVE to be there I wouldn't use them
[06:14] <deus_402> by default the number of half open connections was limited to 128
[06:14] <deus_402> i am hitting over 3000
[06:14] <deus_402> also, this:
[06:14] <deus_402> [50946.276052] TCP: request_sock_TCP: Possible SYN flooding on port 8181. Sending cookies.  Check SNMP counters.
[06:14] <deus_402> [50975.603757] TCP: request_sock_TCP: Possible SYN flooding on port 8080. Sending cookies.  Check SNMP counters.
[06:16] <deus_402> https://access.redhat.com/solutions/30453
[06:16] <deus_402> ^ link from last night or whenever that was
[06:19] <COSL04X> deus_402: since the connections are high, and you are not usings software to really watch ALL in/outbound traffic, wonder if it's being viewed as an attack, and the ports are being blocked for X amount of time
[06:19] <COSL04X> deus_402: like a faulse positive DoS attack
[06:19] <COSL04X> false
[06:19] <deus_402> i didn't think that ubuntu had a firewall turned on by default?
[06:20] <deus_402> or are you talking upstream of the server, like the isp is doing something?
[06:20] <COSL04X> deus_402: It could be on the ISP side or the defualt inboud firewall on the router, it watches inbound not outbound
[06:21] <deus_402> actually, i think in both those cases it would affect the rest of the network.
[06:21] <loganlee> my ubuntu slows to a crawl over time ever since i ran katoolin script
[06:21] <deus_402> i can still remote into the router when the server is down, and the router doesn't show the ethernet cable for the ubuntu box as even plugged in.
[06:21] <COSL04X> deus_402: well that depends, if the ISP views the traffic on those ports as too high, those ports will be restricted, others will run fine
[06:22] <COSL04X> I think its viewing it as a false positive attack
[06:22] <COSL04X> no the server on the ISP/Router side
[06:22] <deus_402> what is it though? the router?
[06:22] <deus_402> if so wouldn't it be blocking all traffic?
[06:22] <COSL04X> deus_402: if it was the ISP, you shouldnt be able to connect but the router should still see the server behind the NAT
[06:22] <deus_402> also every security feature available is currently turned off.
[06:22] <COSL04X> so my guess is it may be the router
[06:23] <deus_402> i still think it is maybe a problem with the tuning...
[06:23] <COSL04X> routers can only keep track of X amount of connections and sessions, I would see what that models upper limits are
[06:24] <loganlee> my bot http://realtimeconfigurablechatbot.sourceforge.net/
[06:24] <COSL04X> deus_402: what OS is the server running again
[06:25] <COSL04X> sorry mutitasking
[06:25] <loganlee> my ubuntu slows to a crawl over time ever since i ran katoolin script
[06:26] <deus_402> COSL04X 16.04
[06:27] <KodingKitty> Bug is reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gpaint/+bug/1658587 now could please somebody fix that shitt ?
[06:27] <deus_402> deus@ubuntu:~$ uname -a
[06:27] <deus_402> Linux ubuntu 4.4.0-57-generic #78-Ubuntu SMP Fri Dec 9 23:50:32 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:27] <KodingKitty> somebody fix that man
[06:29] <KodingKitty> I need this fix very urgent. My application depends on that fix.
[06:29] <KodingKitty> so please fix that ASAP, I don't have much time.
[06:30] <KodingKitty> fix it man.
[06:30] <KodingKitty> come on!
[06:32] <Ben64> KodingKitty: don't do that
[06:32] <KodingKitty> Ben64: Don't fix that ?
[06:32] <KodingKitty> why ?
[06:32] <Ben64> spam the channel with it
[06:32] <COSL04X> deus_402: I think it has to do with your syn backlog
[06:33] <loganlee> anyone noticed problems after katoolin script?
[06:33] <KodingKitty> Ben64: sorry, but only I know how much important this bug to be fixed for my sample application.
[06:33] <deus_402> COSL04X: standby, may have found something interesting
[06:34] <Ben64> KodingKitty: i can't reproduce the issue you're describing anyway
[06:35] <KodingKitty> Ben64: are you on 16.04 ?
[06:35] <COSL04X> deus_402: let me know
[06:35] <deus_402> COSL04X, so i found an option to enable console access on the router.
[06:35] <deus_402> http://pastebin.com/dm44q7gf
[06:37] <COSL04X> deus_402: that traffic mac/IP related to your server ?
[06:38] <gdude> Hi all
[06:38] <deus_402> i'm checking the ip addresses now
[06:38] <COSL04X> Heya gdude
[06:38] <PilledUpEskimo> anal beads
[06:39] <cfhowlett> !ops | PilledUpEskimo ban requested
[06:39] <PilledUpEskimo> aw yall some hoes
[06:39] <PilledUpEskimo> im out this thang
[06:39] <COSL04X> Uhh, Pilled needs a hobby
[06:39] <loganlee> anyone noticed problems after katoolin script?
[06:39] <loganlee> my ubuntu slows to a crawl over time ever since i ran katoolin script
[06:39] <COSL04X> deus_402: anything else ?
[06:39] <KodingKitty> Ben64: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/303514383/save_as_bug.png
[06:40] <deus_402> COSL04X: definitely not legitimate traffic.
[06:40] <COSL04X> deus_402: im seeing a lot of telnet requests in what you posted, port 23, if its still enabled and on defualt port
[06:41] <COSL04X> yeah looks like defnese on the routers part
[06:41] <COSL04X> deus_402: what i was thinking
[06:42] <COSL04X> deus_402: many smart switched, not just routers will shut a port off when its a threat
[06:42] <M4rc__> hi, my parents in law buyed a new printer/scanner hp envy ... i had nothing to do on their ubuntu PC, just plugin, it works fine. No linux in the sys reqs.
[06:42] <COSL04X> deus_402: switches*
[06:43] <deus_402> COSL04X, so now what?
[06:43] <COSL04X> you need to do some packet sniffing and analysis to figure out what causing it
[06:44] <deus_402> an nslookup to a lot of those ip points to the russians causing it.
[06:44] <KodingKitty> Ben64: are you still unable to regenerate the bug ?
[06:47] <loganlee> my bot http://realtimeconfigurablechatbot.sourceforge.net/
[06:47]  * KodingKitty who cares a bot when we got big bugs ? I hate bugs
[06:50] <COSL04X> deus_402: may need to set up iptable rules or check the features on the router to block country IP ranges
[06:51] <COSL04X> deus_402: is the router firewall completely off ?
[06:51] <deus_402> not anymore, heh.
[06:52] <COSL04X> the point of a firewall on the router is to allow forward ports and to DROP any connections that were not initiated by the device on the inside
[06:53] <COSL04X> so if the routers firewall was off, thats a huge problem
[06:53] <PianoSkulls2>  i have an extension on firefox that opens multiple links on tabs by holding the right mouse button and dragging over the links, but the thing is the when i press the right button, the context meny appears. i want the context menu to appear when i let go of the button so it won't interfere with the extension
[06:53] <deus_402> i just turned it off last night
[06:54] <PianoSkulls2> deus_402 the extension?
[06:54] <cfhowlett> PianoSkulls2, could be a firefox issue or a plugin issue.  doesn't sound like an ubuntu issue
[06:54] <PianoSkulls2> cfhowlett it's an ubuntu issue because the mouse does the same thing on all programs and windows
[06:55] <PianoSkulls2> when i press right click, context menu appears
[06:55] <PianoSkulls2> i want it to appear when i let go of right click
[06:56] <PianoSkulls2> it's very annoying to me
[06:56] <PianoSkulls2> can anyone help?
[06:58] <deus_402> COSL04X: interesting -> BusyBox v1.17.2 (2016-03-08 13:02:16 EST) built-in shell (ash)
[06:59] <COSL04X> PianoSkulls2: are you saying menu doesnt stay when you let go ?
[06:59] <loganlee> firefox is malware
[06:59] <loganlee> i uninstalled it
[07:00] <cfhowlett> !fud | loganlee
[07:00] <cfhowlett> please
[07:13] <PianoSkulls2> deus_402 it stays, thats not the issue
[07:13] <Ben64> KodingKitty: seems more like a problem with just your system
[07:13] <PianoSkulls2> i want it to show up only when i let go of the right mouse button
[07:15] <deus_402> PianoSkulls2: sorry bud, i was not talking to you.
[07:15] <deus_402> i have no idea whay your issue is.
[07:16] <SynfulAck> On ubuntu server installs, what display or environment is being used on the cli? And is it possible to change this so X is running on the cli or does that make any sense at all :D?
[07:17] <alkisg> SynfulAck: no, it doesn't make sense, ubuntu server installs don't have xorg installed so no DISPLAY is set
[07:18] <SynfulAck> alkisg, how exactly does the display work? If i installed xorg and switched to it, would i then be changed from the cli to the desktop environment?
[07:19] <alkisg> SynfulAck: if you press alt+ctrl+f1 or f2 etc, you change "vt", virtual terminal. Xorg gets to run in the  first unused virtual terminal, usually vt7, so alt+ctrl+f7
[07:19] <rizonz> is there a way to get a number of all nics I have, so also bridges, bonds ?
[07:20] <alkisg> SynfulAck: you can't run both a cli and xorg in the same vt
[07:20] <PianoSkulls2> deus_402 i replied to the wrong person
[07:20] <alkisg> rizonz: doesn't `ip a` show all the nics?
[07:20] <newkidontheblock> que paso
[07:21] <newkidontheblock> first time here
[07:21] <newkidontheblock> lots of people in here
[07:21] <newkidontheblock> pretty quiet
[07:21] <alkisg> !ask
[07:21] <cfhowlett> chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic or ask your support question here
[07:22] <newkidontheblock> is there a support page for other linux distros too?
[07:22] <newkidontheblock> ??
[07:22] <cfhowlett> probably but we only do ubuntu
[07:22] <uxfi> new there are
[07:22] <uxfi> newkidontheblock oops
[07:22] <uxfi> Go to the distrubutions page
[07:23] <newkidontheblock> you can call me new
[07:23] <loganlee> newkidontheblock,  /msg alis list *linux*
[07:23] <newkidontheblock> i only ask because i hear mint is good
[07:23] <newkidontheblock> also i wanna try fedora
[07:23] <loganlee> im just hoping my ubuntu is not compromised or broken
[07:23] <loganlee> need to wait a few ours to be sure
[07:23] <loganlee> hours*
[07:24] <cfhowlett> newkidontheblock, please see the topic: ubuntu support.  chitchat elsewhere.  thank you.
[07:24] <loganlee> newkidontheblock,  /msg alis list *linux*
[07:25] <newkidontheblock> something going on with your machine loganlee?
[07:26] <loganlee> newkidontheblock, ever since i ran katoolin script my ubuntu box slows down over time
[07:27] <loganlee> i uninstalled firefox because it takes up memory
[07:27] <loganlee> i have to say linux is very fragile
[07:27] <loganlee> very easy to break
[07:28] <darco> but windows is fragile also
[07:28] <newkidontheblock> i agree with you there.  when in doubt, back up your data and start fresh
[07:28] <newkidontheblock> well said darco
[07:29] <darco> I have linux mint on my laptop for nearly 3 years without any reinstalations
[07:30] <COSL04X> loganlee: that's how linux is, windows slowly implodes on itseld getting worse and worse till it fails, Mac things may just not work, and if something breaks in linux things tend to stop till its fixed
[07:30] <loganlee> im hoping it will not break because i can't fix it
[07:30] <loganlee> ill wait and see
[07:30] <darco> now I have xubuntu because my laptop is old works better on it
[07:31] <loganlee> darco, i like unity
[07:31] <COSL04X> unity is nice but I like light weight better, like Fluxbox, LDXE or XFCE
[07:31] <darco> I have unity on on my PC also
[07:31] <newkidontheblock> logan if you are worried about your hardware failing and firefox is taking too much memory, then maybe it's time for a new machine
[07:31] <Logan> I am v worried
[07:32] <newkidontheblock> did you dual boot a windows machine?
[07:32] <Logan> no
[07:32] <loganlee> hi Logan
[07:32] <newkidontheblock> only one OS is on it?
[07:32] <Logan> hi loganlee
[07:34] <newkidontheblock> i would start by compressing files that you havent used in the past 6 months. its a short, quick fix.    either that or you can switch to Linux Lite.  it's designed to fit on machines with limited storage
[07:34] <COSL04X> man one of those days you check the time, its 6pm and now its 12:34 in the morning :P
[07:34] <COSL04X> later all
[07:35] <newkidontheblock> whatever the case, good luck to you loganlee
[07:35] <loganlee> newkidontheblock, ty... im waiting to regenerate the condition before
[07:36] <loganlee> hopefully it is fixed
[07:36] <loganlee> i got rid of firefox
[07:36] <newkidontheblock> i'm actually switching Back-to Firefox. ha
[07:38] <newkidontheblock> is anyone in here good at fdisk?
[07:39] <alkisg> !ask
[07:39] <newkidontheblock> nobody?
[07:40] <cfhowlett> "is anyone ...?" questions are first ones to get ignored
[07:40] <cfhowlett> !details | newkidontheblock
[07:40] <newkidontheblock> what is a !pastebin
[07:41] <cfhowlett> !paste | newkidontheblock
[07:41] <newkidontheblock> wow
[07:41] <newkidontheblock> i just want help with a partition table. lol
[07:41] <newkidontheblock> can you do it or not?
[07:42] <alkisg> newkidontheblock: that's not how it works
[07:42] <cfhowlett> OK let's do this again: STATE your issue, your technical specifications and your request explicitly for best result
[07:42] <alkisg> You don't "hire" someone here to help you. You just ask, and if someone wants to answer, they will.
[07:42] <cfhowlett> https://inkscape.org/media/cms_page_media/56/ask-smart-questions.pdf for the user friendly guide ...
[07:42] <alkisg> If then they have work, they may leave the next minute
[07:43] <alkisg> And someone else might answer next
[07:44] <newkidontheblock> basically I have a microsd chip that has absolutely NO partition table, i have tried using both gparted and fdisk to create a dos table and/or gpt table. but when i try to save and quit, it just quits w/o saving
[07:44] <alkisg> newkidontheblock: do you see any errors in dmesg?
[07:46] <newkidontheblock> i have a "critical medium error, dev sdb, sector 463756950 Buffer I/O error on dev sdb1, logical block 57969364, async page read"
[07:47] <cfhowlett> i/o errors typically point at hardware faults
[07:47] <alkisg> That then means that your SD card is worn out and you should throw it away
[07:48] <newkidontheblock> damn.  i told a friend i would fix it for him.  thought it was just  a simple partition table, fix
[07:48] <newkidontheblock> sorry for cussing.
[07:48] <newkidontheblock> also. thanks for the help
[07:49] <M4dH4TT3r> hello
[07:49] <alkisg> Hi
[07:50] <M4dH4TT3r> I am wondering if anyone knows of a driver package for the google chromebook 15 (banon) keyboard for the latest lts of ubuntu?
[07:52] <SynfulAck> Once i get xorg && openbox installed, do i need to initialize something or restart the machine?
[07:53] <SynfulAck> the docs dont show any more steps.
[07:53] <M4dH4TT3r> everyything else so far installed beautifully
[07:58] <SynfulAck> ah, startx
[07:58] <SynfulAck> crap....a grey screen
[07:59] <EriC^^> !openbox
[07:59] <EriC^^> SynfulAck: ^
[07:59] <TheLawyer> hey guys, I recall seeing an ubuntu tools to install complete development environment(s) but I for what was the package name .. can anyone remind me please?
[07:59] <SynfulAck> i already followed a guide
[07:59] <loganlee> SynfulAck, try right click it will show menu
[08:00] <loganlee> TheLawyer, apt-get install build-essential
[08:00] <SynfulAck> loganlee, ah nice, i never used openbox before. Not very apparent.
[08:01] <TheLawyer> loganlee: emmm I'm not sure that was it, but can I for example ask it to setup php or android environment on the system?
[08:01] <loganlee> TheLawyer, php would be part of LAMP and for android you need to install android studio
[08:02] <loganlee> TheLawyer, for lamp https://gregrickaby.com/2013/05/how-to-install-lamp-on-ubuntu/
[08:03] <TheLawyer> loganlee: I know how to install things manually, I was refering to seeing some tool that does it all in one line for the developer
[08:03] <loganlee> TheLawyer, you need java jdk and android sdk
[08:03] <loganlee> for android dev
[08:03] <loganlee> android studio for ide
[08:05] <cfhowlett> TheLawyer, you mean ubuntumake?
[08:06] <TheLawyer> cfhowlett: yep that is the one ... thank you
[08:06] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-make
[08:06] <cfhowlett> note the hy-phen
[08:07] <TheLawyer> cfhowlett: hy-phen noted
[08:09] <newkidontheblock> i'm getting this message in gparted "/dev/mmcblk0: unrecognised disk label
[08:16] <newkidontheblock> how do you save without quitting in fdisk
[08:18] <newkidontheblock> Remaining 62687 unallocated 512-byte sectors.
[08:19] <mmkodali_> \msg
[08:26] <CuriousWombat> Hi! Why as a root I recieve "Operation not permitted" in a lot of files, while doing a cp --preserve=mode,ownership from /home folder to an USB stick?
[08:32] <yakiza> HEllo everyone i just installed ubuntu and i have no idea witch one to pick http://prnt.sc/dz5k0u
[08:33] <loganlee> yakiza, i receommed proprietary driver
[08:33] <loganlee> recommend
[08:34] <yakiza> loganlee i have just one issue i try to  install propietary and when i did  in the details i  cant see my graphic card
[08:34] <yakiza> i see something else
[08:34] <ducasse> CuriousWombat: if the usb stick is fat32 that doesn't support linux permissions
[08:35] <CuriousWombat> ohhh i see
[08:35] <CuriousWombat> ducasse: what if i tar it and the copy it to usb?
[08:35] <ducasse> CuriousWombat: that would work
[08:37] <loganlee> yakiza, try and see
[08:37] <choraya> hello there can anyone help me with any type of speaking software can play word (PDF) file in voice ?>
[08:42] <leigang> leigang-leigang
[08:42] <leigang> nihao
[08:42] <loganlee> choraya, maybe adobe can do it
[08:42] <leigang> shui huiyong ubuntu
[08:43] <leigang> zenme doubu huiyong ?
[08:43] <leigang> haofan ..
[08:43] <ducasse> !cn | leigang
[08:44] <leigang> where are you ?
[08:46] <choraya> loganlee, can you help me hpw?
[08:46] <leigang> http://www.ubuntu.com
[08:46] <loganlee> choraya, i dont know
[08:46] <loganlee> just sayin'... have a look at adobe products
[08:46] <choraya> i have evince installed
[08:46] <choraya> ok
[08:46] <loganlee> evince dont have that feature obviously
[08:47] <leigang> can i look it ?
[08:47] <RedPenguin> hello all
[08:47] <loganlee> hey
[08:47] <leigang> hey
[08:47] <RedPenguin> I just had a weird experience, don't know what to do
[08:47] <RedPenguin> I have Mythbuntu and left with like 20-30GB on the root partition
[08:47] <morsnowski> choraya, did you bother checking the appgrid for it?
[08:48] <RedPenguin> Don't store anything on it, no recordings anything
[08:48] <RedPenguin> Came back root partition had 0% free
[08:48] <RedPenguin> Rebooted and did apt-get clean and then had 30GB free
[08:48] <RedPenguin> I find it really hard to believe apt-get could have used 30GB though
[08:48] <choraya> loganlee, and morsnowski https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech
[08:49] <morsnowski> ebook speaker?
[08:49] <EriC^^> RedPenguin: the whole repo is 30gb maybe
[08:49] <EriC^^> RedPenguin: maybe you had something in /tmp and on reboot it got cleared
[08:49] <EriC^^> did it take a long time to boot up?
[08:50] <choraya> yes morsnowski
[08:50] <RedPenguin> nope rebooted and started up instantly
[08:50] <choraya> I dnt have Ubuntu morsnowski
[08:50] <sveinse> I have a problem with X and gnome shell on my Lenovo laptop. When extending the desktop with two external screens, the screen scrolls along when I move the pointer to the built-in screen. How can I fix this?
[08:50] <EriC^^> RedPenguin: could have been 1 file maybe
[08:50] <leigang> pidgin?
[08:50] <RedPenguin> this only started happening like a week or so ago
[08:50] <sveinse> I'm running 16.04
[08:50] <RedPenguin> Drives me crazy as it then causes MythTV to stop recording even though the recording partition has tons of space
[08:50] <KodingKitty> nobody fixed that bug yet :(
[08:50] <CrazyTux> hello, has anybody here heard of or used Zorin OS?
[08:51] <KodingKitty> sveinse: can you do me a favor?
[08:51] <EriC^^> RedPenguin: next time you run out of space, use "ncdu" to see what using the space
[08:51] <KodingKitty> Try to regenerate this bug : https://launchpadlibrarian.net/303514383/save_as_bug.png
[08:51] <KodingKitty> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gpaint/+bug/1658587
[08:51] <EriC^^> RedPenguin: i think it's something in /tmp then, it might store temp stuff there
[08:51] <KodingKitty> it
[08:51] <KodingKitty> it's important to get this bug fixed.
[08:53] <RedPenguin> I hope I can somehow keep a monitor on it
[08:53] <RedPenguin> At this rate I will have to run df -h constantly to figure it out and never leave lol
[08:54]  * KodingKitty rm -rf / would better match for the purpose.
[08:55] <EriC^^> KodingKitty: that'll get you banned here
[08:56] <sveinse> any hints on where I can go to figure out X and display/randr issues? I am getting frustrated about this thing
[08:56] <noc_> RedPenguin, "disk usage analyzer" app (baobab)
[08:59] <yakiza> Hello guys i just installed ubuntu and iam trying to install drivers for my nvidia graphics card ... and it seems that everysingle option i selected fom additional drivers  after it succesfully finished when i restart my pc  by clicking on details i see that nvidia its not my main gpu  any help
[08:59] <morsnowski> choraya, what distro?
[08:59] <RedPenguin> thanks noc_ I was looking for something like that
[08:59] <EriC^^> yakiza: try "lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:00] <yakiza> i got this back http://termbin.com/7851
[09:00] <yakiza>  Eraic^^
[09:00] <yakiza> Eric^^
[09:01] <EriC^^> yakiza: it says it's using the opensource nouveau driver
[09:01] <EriC^^> yakiza: do you have any nvidia- packages installed?
[09:01] <EriC^^> try "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:02] <yakiza> Eric^^ possibly not i am really new just installed it first time
[09:02] <EriC^^> ok
[09:02] <yakiza> Eric^^ http://termbin.com/ebhu here
[09:03] <EriC^^> yakiza: ok it says nvidia-367 is installed
[09:03] <EriC^^> yakiza: do you also have an intel graphics on the cpu?
[09:04] <yakiza> then why in details it say  graphics Gallium 0.4 on NVC1
[09:04] <yakiza> NO I dont
[09:04] <xXEoflaOEXx> Hello guys
[09:04] <EriC^^> yakiza: it is using the nvidia one
[09:04] <Ben64> Kernel driver in use: nouveau
[09:04] <Ben64> no it isn't
[09:04] <EriC^^> i mean the nvidia card Ben64
[09:05] <yakiza> alright... is there a command i can confirm that ERic^^
[09:05] <Ben64> ah
[09:05] <EriC^^> yakiza: yes, the lspci command you ran earlier
[09:05] <yakiza> oh oh
[09:05] <alkisg> yakiza: lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA, then check "drivers in use"
[09:05] <yakiza> alright then great
[09:05] <alkisg> yakiza: it's possible to have nvidia installed, and not activated via xorg.conf
[09:06] <EriC^^> yakiza: he means the proprietary driver (nvidia vs nouveau)
[09:06] <Ben64> yakiza: does this return anything? "find /var/lib/dkms | grep nvidia | grep ko$"
[09:06] <EriC^^> currently it's using the opensource one, so it didn't take what you did in additional drivers
[09:07] <yakiza> http://pastebin.com/ACtJhdUV
[09:07] <yakiza> yes
[09:07] <yakiza> here
[09:07] <Ben64> good, you have the drivers then
[09:07] <yakiza> so it workds right?
[09:07] <Ben64> not yet
[09:07] <Ben64> you're still using noveau for some reason
[09:07] <EriC^^> yakiza: what does "cat /proc/cmdline" give you?
[09:07] <alkisg> Possibly missing xorg.conf
[09:07] <Ben64> xorg.conf is not necessary
[09:08] <EriC^^> yakiza: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:08] <alkisg> Is that a recent change? Previously a xorg.conf was required to activate the nvidia module...
[09:08] <Ben64> been like that for many years
[09:08] <choraya> morsnowski, Linux
[09:08] <yakiza> Eric^^ for the first http://pastebin.com/sDNjhFD0
[09:08] <EriC^^> maybe he should run "nvidia-settings" ?
[09:08] <Ben64> EriC^^: without nvidia running it won't have many options
[09:09] <yakiza> http://termbin.com/l5p0 eric^^
[09:09] <EriC^^> Ben64: maybe it has a way to enable it for next reboot?
[09:09] <yakiza> ben64 then how can i make it run
[09:09] <yakiza> btw guys i have reboot milion of times
[09:09] <yakiza> ..
[09:09] <Ben64> yakiza: does this return anything? "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[09:09] <EriC^^> (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[09:09] <Ben64> ooh
[09:10] <EriC^^> it says that in the Xorg log
[09:10] <yakiza> no such file dir
[09:10] <gerri> quanti gerardi siamo?
[09:10] <EriC^^> !it | gerri
[09:10] <Ben64> yakiza: ok, "uname -a"
[09:10] <yakiza> uname -a
[09:10] <Ben64> :|
[09:10] <yakiza> sr w8
[09:11] <yakiza> Linux unknown-OptiPlex-780 4.4.0-59-generic #80-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 6 17:47:47 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:11] <gerri> join #ubuntu-it
[09:11] <EriC^^> yakiza: try "dpkg -l | grep "linux-headers-$(uname -r) | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:11] <EriC^^> sorry typo
[09:11] <EriC^^> yakiza: dpkg -l | grep "linux-headers-$(uname -r)" | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:11] <gerri> ok tnx!ù
[09:11] <Ben64> if the drivers got built that should already exist
[09:11] <Ben64> lemme find my nvidia fixing line
[09:12] <Ben64> "sudo apt-get install build-essential dkms linux-headers-$(uname -r) linux-headers-$(uname -r | sed s/-[a-z].*//g) linux-headers$(uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g)"
[09:12] <yakiza> Eric^^ http://termbin.com/yq6j
[09:12] <yakiza> ben64 should i put all that in terminal
[09:12] <Ben64> yeah
[09:12] <Ben64> although it'll probably do nothing
[09:13] <yakiza> okay
[09:13] <yakiza> ben64 i did it 0 upgraded 0 to new
[09:13] <Ben64> yeah...
[09:13] <EriC^^> why can't it find the modules?
[09:13] <Ben64> yakiza: how about 'sudo modprobe nvidia'
[09:13] <loganlee> maybe kernel dont have the module
[09:14] <Ben64> the module is built, it's for the currently running kernel
[09:14] <yakiza> modprobe: FATAL: Module nvidia not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.0-59-generic
[09:14] <Ben64> hmm
[09:14] <alkisg> dpkg-reconfigure?
[09:15] <EriC^^> yakiza: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-367
[09:15] <yakiza> alkisg  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: Please specify a package to reconfigure.
[09:15] <loganlee> lsmod | grep nvidia
[09:16] <yakiza> loganiee that run
[09:17] <RedPenguin> well whatever it was is behaving so far /tmp or anything is not gathering any files
[09:17] <this_self> Hi guys! How i can change icons for QT applications? I mean internal icons on menu elements? It was ok before I removed kubuntu-desktop from system
[09:17] <yakiza> btw guys  where did you learn all this commands i mean what did you search in order to learn these things  ..i want to start reading so i wont bother you all the time
[09:17] <Ben64> yakiza: messing around
[09:18] <loganlee> [[ -n $(lsmod | grep nvidia)  ]] && echo true
[09:18] <yakiza> loganlee with the brackets?
[09:18] <loganlee> yes
[09:18] <loganlee> do you see true?
[09:18] <yakiza> done loganlee
[09:18] <loganlee> it says true?
[09:18] <yakiza> no just gave me new line
[09:19]  * loganlee gonna eat dinner brb
[09:19] <Ben64> yakiza: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dkms
[09:19] <EriC^^> yakiza: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-367
[09:19] <yakiza> eric^^ i am doing that w8 to finish
[09:19] <yakiza> eric^^ just finished
[09:19] <EriC^^> yakiza: ok
[09:19] <EriC^^> run Ben64 's command
[09:19] <yakiza> ben64 done
[09:19] <Ben64> now 'sudo modprobe nvidia'
[09:19] <yakiza> i did
[09:20] <yakiza> modprobe: FATAL: Module nvidia not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.0-59-generic
[09:20] <EriC^^> then try find -iname "*nvidia*" /lib/modules/$(uname -r)
[09:20] <EriC^^> or Ben64 's command
[09:20] <EriC^^> yakiza: while the last commands ran, did it show any errors?
[09:21] <yakiza> yes
[09:21] <EriC^^> (the apt-get --reinstall and dpkg-reconfigure)
[09:21] <EriC^^> please paste them in paste.ubuntu.com
[09:21] <yakiza> E: Command line option --reinstall is not understood in combination with the other options
[09:21] <EriC^^> no i mean the earlier commands
[09:21] <EriC^^> yakiza: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-367
[09:21] <Anonymes> hi all
[09:22] <yakiza> no that run normaly
[09:22] <yakiza> the error i got was from
[09:22] <EriC^^> also the dkms one?
[09:22] <yakiza> sudo modprobe nvidia
[09:22] <EriC^^> ok
[09:23] <Ben64> yakiza: how about "dkms status"
[09:23] <yakiza> https://thepasteb.in/p/qjhLKZvrZDESB
[09:23] <Ben64> hmm.. "added"
[09:24] <Ben64> should be "installed"
[09:24] <yakiza> should i do a reboot?
[09:24] <EriC^^> wouldn't hurt
[09:24] <yakiza> ok then
[09:24] <yakiza> brb
[09:24] <EriC^^> added, as in the todo list?
[09:25] <EriC^^> maybe it's not running the dkms install command? reading the man page//
[09:26] <deus_402> seems like you guys should just have him purge all the nvidia crap installed, install the ppa, then install the 378 drivers?
[09:27] <Ben64> ew no
[09:27] <EriC^^> maybe a missing dkms.conf
[09:27] <EriC^^> it might work after the reboot
[09:28] <EriC^^> "This boot-time service automatically  installs  any  module  which  has       AUTOINSTALL="yes"  set  in its dkms.conf file"
[09:28] <yakiza> Eric^^ nothing..
[09:28] <EriC^^> yakiza: try sudo modprobe nvidia
[09:28] <yakiza> modprobe: FATAL: Module nvidia not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.0-59-generic
[09:28] <yakiza> eric^^
[09:29] <loganlee> im telling u its the kernel
[09:29] <Ben64> nah
[09:29] <loganlee> kernel dont have the module compiled
[09:30] <Ben64> yes it does
[09:30] <EriC^^> yakiza: try find /var/lib -iname "dkms.conf"
[09:31] <EriC^^> yakiza: do you see any nvidia in the list?
[09:31] <yakiza> just give me a new line  like this >
[09:31] <EriC^^> yakiza: you missed one of the "
[09:32] <EriC^^> press ctrl+c to get out
[09:32] <yakiza> https://thepasteb.in/p/j2hlK80qmGGhP
[09:32] <yakiza> nothing i guess
[09:32] <Ben64> yakiza: sudo dkms install nvidia-367/367.57
[09:33] <EriC^^> Ben64: he'll have to run that every time though wont he?
[09:33] <yakiza> ben64 already installed
[09:33] <Ben64> it says already installed?
[09:33] <yakiza> yes
[09:33] <yakiza> Module nvidia-367/367.57 already installed on kernel 4.4.0-59-generic/x86_64 ben4
[09:33] <EriC^^> yakiza: try "cat /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-367/367.57/build/dkms.conf | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:34] <yakiza> http://termbin.com/rcj2 eric^^
[09:34] <EriC^^> yakiza: try sudo modprobe nvidia_367
[09:34] <florian__> hello everyone, I woulld appreciate help with install via dpkg
[09:35] <yakiza> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'nvidia_367': No such device
[09:35] <yakiza>  eric^^
[09:35] <alkisg> !ask | florian__
[09:36] <Ben64> that dkms.conf looks different from mine...
[09:36] <yakiza> what that means?
[09:36] <Ben64> idk maybe nothing
[09:36] <WeiJunLi> do anyone identify the reason why my qemu VM isn't created properly?http://sprunge.us/KbYL
[09:36] <Ben64> you're running 16.04, i'm running 14.04
[09:36] <florian__> after installing libreoffice 5.2.4 via terminal in the directory where all the *.deb files are, I can't open it and get the following error message: /opt/libreoffice5.2/program/oosplash: error while loading shared libraries: libXinerama.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. The command I used was "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" thanks in advance
[09:37] <yakiza> base64 maybe i should unistall everything
[09:37] <EriC^^> yakiza: try find /lib/modules -iname "nvidia*ko" | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:37] <yakiza> and try again?
[09:37] <florian__> what can I do about it?
[09:37] <RedPenguin> I like how PCs never seem to act up as you monitor them lol
[09:37] <florian__> !patience
[09:37] <yakiza> http://termbin.com/e9hn eric^^
[09:38] <EriC^^> Ben64: all my .ko stuff seem to be in /lib/modules.../updates/dkms
[09:39] <EriC^^> maybe the dkms.conf is borked cause his says to copy to /lib/modules.../kernel
[09:39] <yakiza> Eric^^ i will try to unistall and install  it again
[09:39] <yakiza> maybe i installed some bad modules
[09:39] <EriC^^> yakiza: it won't help i think
[09:39] <Ben64> it looks fine
[09:39] <Ben64> just like mine
[09:40] <Ben64> try "sudo insmod /lib/modules/4.4.0-59-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_367.ko"
[09:40] <EriC^^> yeah that's what i mean ^
[09:40] <EriC^^> his dkms is instructed to copy to /kernel
[09:40] <EriC^^> he doesn't have that dir i think
[09:40] <EriC^^> oh sorry nevermind
[09:41] <noc_> florian__, just use the libreoffice PPA
[09:42] <yakiza> Gonna do one more restart
[09:42] <Ben64> this is the weirdest thing
[09:42] <EriC^^> Ben64: xorg mentions looking for "nvidia" though
[09:42] <iivvoo> having this issue for a while now (and right now as we speak): my mouse cursor disappears after a while. The only way to restore it that works is suspend/wakeup
[09:42] <Ben64> EriC^^: yeah, that's fine
[09:43] <EriC^^> oh ok
[09:43] <C0r3> Do I have a tool to have my code in PDF (with all the syntax hightlighting) ??
[09:43] <iivvoo> googling doesn't reveal much helpfull info. Sometimes the cursor changes into a distored block of pixels but most of the time it's just gone
[09:43] <Ben64> EriC^^: although idk where it gets that from
[09:43] <iivvoo> mouse still works though - I can select/click stuff I just have to guess where the pointer is
[09:43] <iivvoo> anyone have tips on how to debug this?
[09:43] <alkisg> iivvoo: if you press alt+ctrl+f1 to switch to vt1, then alt+ctrl+f7 to switch back to xorg, does it help?
[09:43] <Ben64> i have no "nvidia.ko" on my system, yet i have module "nvidia" loaded
[09:43] <iivvoo> alkisg: tried that, doesnt help
[09:43] <noc_> florian__, the preferred way is https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ubuntu/ppa so you get the package dependencies for libreoffice and the updates to 5.2.5/6 automatically. Currently you have installed libreoffice but not its dependencies, that's why it0s complaining, although it's fixable
[09:44] <roothorick> script starts with #!/bin/bash, sudo /bin/bash <script> works, sudo <script> produces syntax errors. Why?
[09:44] <roothorick> that could use some quotes
[09:45] <alkisg> roothorick: bash -n script ? this just does syntax checking
[09:45] <roothorick> script starts with #!/bin/bash, "sudo /bin/bash <script>" works, "sudo <script>" produces syntax errors. Why?
[09:45] <loganlee> roothorick, chmod +x <script>
[09:45] <EriC^^> roothorick: it needs the full path
[09:45] <C0r3> Anybody?
[09:46] <roothorick> loganlee: already +x
[09:46] <EriC^^> roothorick: what loganlee said, then you can do sudo ./script
[09:46] <florian__> noc_, yeah, maybe I should try that, thanks.
[09:46] <loganlee> sudo chmod +x <script>
[09:46] <roothorick> loganlee: it already is +x
 roothorick: what loganlee said, then you can do sudo ./script
[09:47] <roothorick> EriC^^: I'm specifying the full path to the script
[09:47] <alkisg> roothorick: what's the output of bash -n script.
[09:47] <roothorick> alkisg: nothing...
[09:48] <alkisg> Is the shebang just bash, or e.g. bash -e?
[09:48] <Ben64> roothorick: what's the actual command you're doing
[09:48] <Ben64> and the actual error
[09:48] <roothorick> let's make a testcase
[09:50] <mamalos> hey everybody!
[09:50] <loganlee> hey mamalos
[09:50] <roothorick> http://pastebin.com/h445MGCJ
[09:51] <mamalos> I'd like to upgrade a few machines running Ubuntu 16.04_1 unattended and I would like the script to select the default options (not necessarily yes)
[09:51] <mamalos> is it possible?
[09:51] <roothorick> it's like sudo is ignoring the bang
[09:51] <loganlee> FOO=(one two three) should be {one, two,three}
[09:51] <alkisg> roothorick: cat shows that your script's first line is empty
[09:52] <alkisg> shebang is on the second line
[09:52] <loganlee> FOO=(one two three) should be FOO={one, two,three}
[09:52] <roothorick> ...I missed that
[09:52] <loganlee> np
[09:53] <alkisg> loganlee: FOO=(one two three) is not a syntax error
[09:54] <roothorick> alkisg: funny enough, that was my own mistake in the testcase, when where I ran into the problem, it was coincidentally the same cause
[09:54] <alkisg> Hehe
[09:56] <roothorick> note to self: no syntax highlighting in nano is a red flag
[09:56] <alkisg> mamalos: do you mean just to run apt-get dist-upgrade unattended?
[09:56] <alkisg> Or upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04?
[09:59] <mamalos> alkisg: sorry for not making this clear, I meant running apt-get distupgrade unattended but with default options selected (not yes)
[10:00] <loganlee> mamalos, use -y option
[10:01] <mamalos> alkisg: looking at the man-page I found the --trivial-ony but it's not clear what it does
[10:01] <mamalos> loganlee: -y is supposed to always answer yes, this is not what I want
[10:04] <noc_> mamalos, sudo unattended-upgrade?
[10:04] <mamalos> loganlee: sudo asks whether to change the sudoers file, which I clearly not want to be overriden. The default option is to leave it untouched, so if it peeks the default options suggested it would work
[10:04] <mamalos> noc_: I've never used it, does it do the trick on this case?
[10:05] <RedPenguin> I don't have much proof but I wonder if it can be Dropbox taking the space up at times
[10:05] <RedPenguin> Gonna try and move Dropbox to the data partition vs Home Folder
[10:05] <yakiza> got stuck into a log in loop
[10:05] <yakiza> ..
[10:06] <yakiza> i found a solution tough my phone base64
[10:06] <Ben64> : /
[10:06] <yakiza> ce
[10:06] <Ben64> what did you do
[10:06] <yakiza> sudo ubuntu drivers autoinstall
[10:07] <yakiza> and sudo apt-get install nvidia-cureent
[10:07] <yakiza> but that didnt fix it adnd i kind  found my way  i just interupted the first command  after few times and i was able to log in to my system ben64
[10:08] <Ben64> sudo lshw -C video | grep driver
[10:08] <yakiza> configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
[10:08] <Ben64> meh
[10:08] <Ben64> sudo modprobe nvidia
[10:09] <yakiza> modprobe: FATAL: Module nvidia not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.0-59-generic
[10:09] <Ben64> sudo insmod /lib/modules/4.4.0-59-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_367.ko
[10:09] <yakiza> something is wrong with this generic
[10:09] <RedPenguin> I figure if anything, no real reason to keep a 13GB folder on root when it should be on data partition
[10:09] <yakiza> ben64 no such file directory
[10:11] <Ben64> ls -l /lib/modules/4.4.0-59-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_367.ko
[10:11] <yakiza> ls: cannot access '/lib/modules/4.4.0-59-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_367.ko': No such file or directory
[10:11] <yakiza>  btw when i encounterd something like this before i did something add ppa or something like that
[10:11] <yakiza> is that relevant? ben64
[10:12] <Ben64> well the module was there
[10:12] <halyjo> Youtube
[10:12] <Ben64> yakiza: sudo dkms install nvidia-367/367.57
[10:12] <yakiza> Error! Could not find module source directory.
[10:12] <yakiza> Directory: /usr/src/nvidia-367-367.57 does not exist.
[10:12] <Ben64> ew, you killed it
[10:13] <yakiza> this log in loopmeed it up
[10:13] <yakiza> man couldnt log in at all..
[10:13] <Ben64> sudo apt-get install nvidia-367
[10:13] <yakiza> what i was supposed to do :/
[10:16] <yakiza> ben64 it installed
[10:16] <Ben64> now see if you can sudo insmod /lib/modules/4.4.0-59-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_367.ko
[10:17] <yakiza> still same ben64
[10:17] <rahul> #javascript
[10:17] <yakiza> no such device
[10:17] <xXEoflaOEXx> I kept getting disconnected by not enough signal but hello guys!
[10:17] <Guest39290> hey can someone help me with js ?
[10:17] <ikonia> Guest39290: in what respect ?
[10:17] <Ben64> yakiza: does the file exist now at least?
[10:18] <yakiza> insmod: ERROR: could not insert module /lib/modules/4.4.0-59-generic/updates/dkms/nvidia_367.ko: No such device
[10:18] <yakiza> :/
[10:18] <Guest39290> <!DOCTYPE html>
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[10:18] <Guest39290> <meta charset="utf-8">
[10:18] <Guest39290>   <img src="https://goo.gl/rifoW3" id="img" onclick="change()">
[10:18] <Guest39290> <script language="javascript">
[10:18] <Guest39290> function change() {
[10:18] <Ben64> yakiza: well that's a weird error
[10:19] <Ben64> yakiza: sorry i gotta run, work in 5hrs. i hope you figure this out though
[10:19] <Ben64> this isn't usually a busy time for the channel, maybe check back in the daytime (USA)
[10:20] <yakiza> ben64  thnaks a lot man
[10:20] <yakiza> ben64 hope so as well
[10:20] <Ben64> nvidia problems are usually solved by the big long command i gave you earlier, this one is wacky
[10:20] <loganlee> http://realtimeconfigurablechatbot.sourceforge.net/
[10:21] <yakiza> ben64 okay wil try to search on forums something thanks buddy ;D have a great day
[10:22] <mamalos> noc_: I've tried unattended-upgrade in one of my PCs and it worked fine. Thanks!
[10:25] <noc_> yw
[10:26] <JP____> in ubuntu minimal (14.04 LTS) my usb is not recognized :(
[10:31] <cotin> I will pay anyone who can help me setup virtualmin correctly. I have done a successful setup with the sh install script and gode through the configuration and it still gives me ".. your system is not ready for use by Virtualmin." i have added 127.0.0.1 to the list of DNS servers. Also tried to turn off the BIND feature witch did not work. So any one want fast cash?
[10:32] <ikonia> cotin: you really need to use the virtualmin support resources for this - their product and solution is custom to them, and not something I'd recommend
[10:34] <cotin> I have tried to search the forums and lots of people get the same error for lots of various reasons. Im just willing to pay anyone at this moment to get this ass pain out of the world.
[10:34] <ikonia> cotin: try to purchase support from virtualmin
[10:34] <cotin> Oh
[10:34] <cotin> didnt know that was possible. But its expensice i guess?
[10:34] <ikonia> cotin: https://www.virtualmin.com/buy/support
[10:35] <cotin> ...checking
[10:37] <loganlee> foo="xXEoflaOEXx"; foo1=${foo##xXE}; foo2=${foo1%%EXx}; echo $foo2;
[10:38] <ikonia> loganlee: ?
[10:38] <loganlee> i have extracted ofla0
[10:39] <cotin> 50$ for support at Virtualmin. Anyone want 20$ to help me later?
[10:41] <Bent0> Would setting net.ipv4.tcp_tw_recycle = 1 & net.ipv4.tcp_tw_reuse = 1 be able to harm a local MariaDB install in any way? Connections come from php-cli and php-fpm all to 127.0.0.1:3306
[10:45] <mar77i> I must inquire about ubuntu's log keeping. are old logs in /var/log/nginx/access.log.* going to be automatically discarded?
[10:47] <hateball> mar77i: depends on the value in your logrotate config
[10:48] <mar77i> I'll check if I can figure this out...
[10:50] <mar77i> afaict, rotate 14 means it keep 14 days of logs and removes older ones.
[10:50] <hateball> Yes, that is correct
[10:53] <wrksx> hey there
[10:53] <loganlee> hey friend
[10:53] <mar77i> if I'm reading the manpage correctly the rotate directive cannot be tuned to keep anything, which means I'm supposed to comment or remove the directive? as I'm talking about a logrotate.d file, how do I prevent the config from falling back to the global config in /etc/logrotate.conf?
[10:56] <loganlee> i think im gonna watch a movie
[10:56] <loganlee> brb need a drink
[10:56] <wrksx> I just ran aptitude safe-upgrade and the linux-firmware package got updated. It ended up generating many initrd img, and now the system asks for a reboot. As this is a distant server I feel quite nervous and I would like to make sure the system will restart properly. Is there anything I can do to be safer? like maybe get to know what initrd version I'm using currently and which one is goin to be used on the reboot
[10:58] <tatertots> wrksx: do you have pastebinit installed? if not sudo apt install pastebinit
[10:59] <wrksx> tatertots: what do you want me to pastebin?
[11:00] <tatertots> wrksx:    apt list --installed|grep firm|pastebinit
[11:01] <wrksx> tatertots: http://pastie.org/private/ihcq0pcklfk9mxqnzeg
[11:02] <mxx_> exit
[11:04] <tatertots> wrksx: that link doesn't work for me, gives a error # 522 time out
[11:04] <tatertots> wrksx: says website is off
[11:04] <xXEoflaOEXx> wrksx, You do not have pastebinit installed. It told you how to install pastebinit: apt-get install pastebinit.
[11:05] <tatertots> wrksx: best bet is to intall the real pastebinit
[11:05] <tatertots> wrksx: sudo apt install pastebinit ...i think i told you that 5 or so minutes ago
[11:05] <wrksx> tatertots: try this one http://pastie.org/private/av0jmv9gpmykndxuvncpeg
[11:06] <tatertots> wrksx: nope...do  it my way or i'm hitting the highway and someone else can help youo
[11:07] <wrksx> tatertots: lol right.
[11:08] <wrksx> tatertots: okay it's installed
[11:08] <tatertots> wrksx:    apt list --installed|grep firm|pastebinit
[11:08] <xXEoflaOEXx> wrksx, Try the command that you are trying to execute again
[11:09] <wrksx> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23851525/
[11:10] <wrksx> it also said "WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface yet. Use with caution in scripts."
[11:10] <tatertots> wrksx: you can restart it'll be fine
[11:10] <tatertots> wrksx: that's normal
[11:11] <tatertots> wrksx: linux-firmware package is installed and it's impact for you is minimal at best
[11:12] <wrksx> tatertots: okay. look at this one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23851531/ this is what happened during the upgrade
[11:14] <tatertots> wrksx: sudo apt install inxi
[11:15] <tatertots> wrksx: let me know when its done
[11:16] <wrksx> tatertots: Done
[11:16] <tatertots> wrksx: inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[11:18] <wrksx> tatertots: nice tool
[11:18] <wrksx> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23851552/
[11:28] <tatertots> wrksx: okay
[11:29] <tatertots> wrksx: i just wanted to make sure you were on 14.x, i saw your 3.x kernel and wanted to confirm
[11:29] <wrksx> alright
[11:29] <tatertots> wrksx: you're fine to restart,
[11:29] <wrksx> I don't get why all those initrd images were generated
[11:29] <tatertots> wrksx: let's find out..standby
[11:30] <tatertots> wrksx: awk -F\' '/menuentry / {print $2}' /boot/grub/grub.cfg|pastebinit
[11:31] <wrksx> tatertots: awk: fatal: cannot open file `/boot/grub/grub.cfg' for reading (No such file or directory)
[11:31] <wrksx> looks like I'm not usin grub
[11:31] <tatertots> wrksx: that is correct
[11:32] <wrksx> hum
[11:32] <wrksx> wait
[11:32] <wrksx> maybe that was a typo? I have grub installed
[11:32] <tatertots> wrksx: did you make a typo
[11:32] <wrksx> there's a file called grub.conf as opposed to .cfg
[11:32] <tatertots> wrksx: try again and show the url link here
[11:33] <tatertots> wrksx: pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.conf
[11:33] <wrksx> tatertots: yeah was not workin bec&ause I have no menu entry (server box)
[11:34] <tatertots> wrksx: if you look you'll notice one for every kernel version
[11:34] <tatertots> wrksx: that's normal
[11:34] <tatertots> wrksx: you are fine to restart
[11:34] <wrksx> tatertots: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23851600/
[11:35] <EriC^^> wrksx: dpkg -l | grep grub | pastebinit
[11:35] <TheCanadiansSuck> help! the canadians are coming!
[11:35] <EriC^^> i think you have grub legacy installed
[11:36] <wrksx> EriC^^: indeed http://paste.ubuntu.com/23851602/
[11:36] <EriC^^> wrksx: which ubuntu version are you using?
[11:36] <tatertots> 14.x
[11:36] <wrksx> yes
[11:36] <EriC^^> maybe you ran sudo apt-get install grub at some point?
[11:36] <TheCanadiansSuck> help
[11:36] <TheCanadiansSuck> they're going to get me
[11:36] <TheCanadiansSuck> the canadians
[11:37] <TheCanadiansSuck> they caught me spying on them
[11:37] <TheCanadiansSuck> because i am agent 007
[11:37] <wrksx> EriC^^: nope but the box was installed be the hoster so who knows what they did
[11:37] <k1l_> TheCanadiansSuck: please keep this channel for technical ubuntu support only.
[11:37] <EriC^^> wrksx: aha
[11:37] <EriC^^> wrksx: i guess let it be then
[11:37] <TheCanadiansSuck> k1l_: sorry but im scared
[11:37] <TheCanadiansSuck> the canadians are working with Russia to try to find me
[11:38] <tatertots> wrksx: your paranoia is unwarranted at this point, just reboot .....or do not reboot
[11:38] <wrksx> tatertots: right thanks for your help
[11:38] <tatertots> wrksx: no prob
[11:41] <wrksx> I'm fucking SCARED
[11:45] <[jasper]> hej guys, I'm having a problem with software center...I see the main screen
[11:45] <[jasper]> but when I press updates or anything else...it just loads...
[11:45] <[jasper]> nothing happens
[11:45] <[jasper]> I got it working again after a reboot...but is this norma?
[11:45] <[jasper]> or is it just really slow?
[11:49] <wrksx> reeboot initiated, I'm shitting my pants right now
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:51] <wrksx> It's still down
[11:51] <wrksx> I'm bout to faint
[11:51] <wrksx> Fuckin hell ping up
[11:52] <xXEoflaOEXx> wrksx, Do not swear!
[11:52] <wrksx> xXEoflaOEXx: right sorry
[11:52] <xXEoflaOEXx> wrksx, ok.
[11:52] <wrksx> Yeah it' up and running finer
[11:54] <wrksx> tatertots: It booted correctly, thx for the support!
[11:55] <tatertots> wrksx: no problem my friend
[11:55] <tatertots> wrksx: no go have a cig or coffee :)
[11:56] <tatertots> wrksx: now go have a cig or coffee :)
[11:56] <wrksx> tatertots: yeah I need to chill
[12:06] <yeeve> hey chat, any LAMP hosters here got opinions on using stuff like mod_security/mod_evasive and apparmour/selinux, is it worth the learning curve to get these setup and maintained?
[12:21] <Skizu> Weird question, when ssh can I specify the path I would like to "arrive" at?
[12:21] <Skizu> So for example `ssh foo@bar -L /var/foo`
[12:21] <Skizu> I had a look over help and man but didn't seem so
[12:23] <ppf> ssh peforms an interactive login. that means that it'll run the remote user's default shell on the remote system, and will subsequently put you into the shell's default start directory
[12:25] <Skizu> ppf: So there's no way of being like go here
[12:26] <ppf> you can have ssh run a command in that shell, which can be something like 'cd /home/some/dir ; exec "$SHELL"'
[12:26] <ppf> keep in mind that that's super ugly though ;)_
[12:27] <EriC^^> you know what they say, cover the face and ..
[12:27] <EriC^^> just have a few beers before running the command
[12:28] <ppf> :)
[12:28] <EriC^^> the problem though is that when he runs exec $SHELL it'll remove the cwd
[12:30] <tatertots> lol
[12:30] <tatertots> shame on you for that
[12:30] <EriC^^> can bash be called using a certain config maybe?
[12:30] <EriC^^> tatertots: shame on you for saying shame on you
[12:32] <EriC^^> maybe make a function, and export it to the new shell
[12:32] <ppf> nah, the shell will inherit the parent's cwd
[12:32] <EriC^^> ppf: no it wont
[12:33] <EriC^^> ah it will, could have sworn i just tried it
[12:33] <EriC^^> well that's that
[12:44] <number281> anyone around?
[12:44] <EriC^^> !ask | number281
[12:45] <number281> Fair enough
[12:45] <number281> Trying to see if i can find anyone at this ungodly hour to help with open ssh and port forwarding. I've done everything right however it seems i can't connect using my external IP address.
[12:46] <number281> I believe i've done everything right*
[12:46] <EriC^^> can you ping your external address?
[12:46] <number281> yeah
[12:47] <number281> EriC^^: Indeed i ccan
[12:47] <EriC^^> number281: what happens when you run "ssh -vvv user@host" ?
[12:48] <number281> debug2: ssh_connect_direct: needpriv 0
[12:48] <number281> EriC^^: then connection refused
[12:48] <EriC^^> number281: what happens with "telnet host 22" ?
[12:50] <number281> EriC^^: 22 sys i'm connected than leavves me blank, however thats to the router i believe. when i use the desingated port 2828 its connectionr refused
[12:50] <number281> EriC^^: Wow, sorry for those typos.
[12:51] <EriC^^> number281: i think the router should give you the ssh session
[12:51] <EriC^^> you set up ssh on your server for port 2828 and told the router to forward 22 to 2828?
[12:51] <number281> I have it forwarded using the dsl routers 'virtual servers' to accept wan connections on port 2828 and forward them to local ip port 2828
[12:52] <number281> EriC^^: I think the 22 is for router configuration, and it's disabled atm.
[12:52] <EriC^^> ok, and did you modify the ssh config?
[12:52] <number281> EriC^^: Yea, allowed gateway and changed port ot 2828
[12:53] <EriC^^> number281: on the server, if you run ssh -p 2828 user@localhost
[12:53] <EriC^^> it works?
[12:53] <number281> EriC^^: Yeah i can connect on my local network
[12:53] <EriC^^> so it's a router issue then
[12:53] <tatertots> router
[12:53] <number281> Thats what i was thinking.
[12:54] <EriC^^> from outside, what does telnet host 2828 do?
[12:54] <number281> Friend said maybe my ISP was NAT (which i just found out is even possible) but he had o go. Wondering if that may be a thing
[12:54] <number281> EriC^^: let me see
[12:55] <EriC^^> my isp is nat, everybody has the same ip outside
[12:55] <EriC^^> i visit sites sometimes and it says you've been banned and i didn't do crap
[12:56] <temp-wifirepeate> i have an old Pentium II laptop, 128MB RAM which has 2 pcmcia wireless cards (ath9k and rtl8187).  i want to use that laptop as a temporary wireless repeater. can anyone recommend me something as newbie friendly as (the sadly abandoned) quicktables to do so?
[12:56] <number281> EriC^^: Well my ip changes everytime i reset the router. I dont think its NAT.. but i'm not the greatest at networking so idk. Telnet to port does nothing. NMAP and NC both reveal 2828 is closed.
[12:56] <hateball> If you have a friendly ISP you can ask them to disable CGN for you
[12:57] <EriC^^> number281: maybe you have to open the ports on the router?
[12:57] <EriC^^> what's CGN?
[12:57] <ppf> carrier-grade nat
[12:57] <EriC^^> ah
[12:57] <number281> EriC^^: Thats what the NAT Virtual Server says it does tho?
[12:58] <number281> EriC^^: Accepts port connections from WAN and forwards to local NAT, and i opened up 2828
[12:58] <ppf> number281: did you check the server's firewall?
[12:58] <number281> EriC^^: I know that part is configured correctly.
[12:59] <gilesw> i'm trying to pxeboot 16.04 but I'm getting a deb-installer error netcfg segfault
[12:59] <number281> ppf: So i checked to see if there was a overall firewall.. there was a filter for incoming and outgoing, i set the rule for incoming to allow on port 2828
[12:59] <EriC^^> number281: try sudo iptables -L
[12:59] <ppf> what happens if you telnet from the outside to your router's 2828?
[12:59] <number281> EriC^^: It's blank.
[12:59] <EriC^^> does it say ACCEPT at the top?
[12:59] <number281> ppf: Conn refused
[13:00] <number281> EriC^^: Yes but nothing is listed in input forward or output
[13:00] <ppf> then the router doesn't do the port translation
[13:01] <number281> ppf: thast was my fear =/
[13:01] <EriC^^> is there any way to see if it's reaching the router?
[13:01] <number281> EriC^^: What do you mean
[13:01] <rizonz> does anyone know if 14.04 doesn't support last succeed apt-get update and 16.04 does ?
[13:01] <EriC^^> nevermind, i was thinking if the isp is nat
[13:01] <ppf> number281: do you maybe need to restart your router?
[13:02] <EriC^^> rizonz: it depends why is it failing?
[13:02] <k1l_> rizonz: can you rephrase that?
[13:02] <tatertots> restart router, or get a baseball bat, walk into the room where your router is and sit down for a talk with it
[13:02] <rizonz> nah I use the puppetlabs apt script and 14.04 returns a -1 and 16.04 calculates
[13:02] <number281> ppf: I restarted several times from the login page after resetting the rules. The router looks VERY old, with outdated firmware and so forth. I was surprised the ISP gave it to us tbh. One search of the product ID and it was someone complaing about port forwarding.
[13:03] <number281> tatertots: ..I just got done watching casino,donnie brasco and goodfells too... mafia marathon.
[13:03] <ppf> well... time to get a new one then?
[13:03] <ppf> maybe get one that can run openwrt :)
[13:03] <number281> ppf: Yeah, i suppose thats what i will have to do. I feel like DSL routers aren't very common. Would i have to go through my ISP to get a new one?
[13:04] <rizonz> EriC^^: k1l_ https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2017-January/288859.html
[13:04] <ppf> depends. some ISPs try to force you to use their hardware. (which is illegal in some countries today, e.g. in germany)
[13:05] <number281> ppf: So i'm guessing i should call and have them come out and charge my ass a fee.
[13:05] <ppf> otherwise you just need a modem from your ISP, and then do routing yourself
[13:06] <number281> ppf: hmm okay. Well i appreciate the help
[13:06] <number281> EriC^^: Thanks alot guys
[13:06] <EriC^^> no problem
[13:08] <pc> Ohey
[13:08] <pc> can someone help me with the left side bar? I want to remove it so bad
[13:09] <EriC^^> pc: ubuntu/unity?
[13:09] <pc> yes its 16.04
[13:09] <ppf> pc: just pick a different DE if you don't like unity
[13:09] <EriC^^> pc: you can only move it to the bottom
[13:10] <pc> id love to move it to the bottom can you tell me how?
[13:10] <pc> ppf i might do that next time..
[13:10] <EriC^^> install unity-tweak-tool
[13:10] <k1l_> pc: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Launcher launcher-position Bottom
[13:10] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool
[13:10] <JP____> Can i get my bashscript to return something?
[13:10] <JP____> like return 0
[13:10] <EriC^^> JP____: yeah
[13:11] <pc> thank you very much :)
[13:11] <ikevin> JP____, yes, exim 0 :)
[13:11] <ikevin> exit*
[13:11] <JP____> ikevin thnx
[13:12] <EriC^^> JP____: or "return 0"
[13:12] <EriC^^> in case you just want to return from a function and not exit the whole script
[13:18] <tobug> anybody?
[13:18] <pc> hi
[13:18] <ikevin> tobug, ?
[13:19] <tobug> nothing,just say hi
[13:19] <pc> anyone is a fan of ubuntu one or snapd?
[13:21] <tobug> what is the snapd? @pc
[13:22] <ppf> pc: those are quite different things
[13:22] <pc> let me find the right words :P
[13:22] <ppf> what's the actual question?
[13:22] <pc> ppf ya
[13:22] <pc> just wondering if people are liking ubuntu one or snapd
[13:23] <ppf> there are plenty of people who like the one or the other or both?
[13:23] <tobug> i get it
[13:24] <ppf> i don't
[13:24] <pc> u looked it up tobug
[13:24] <pc> ppf im using linux to avoid registration but ubuntu one is requiring that
[13:24] <k1l_> pc: this channel is for solving actual technical issues. if you just want to chat better use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[13:24] <pc> snapd is automated updates which i also avoid
[13:24] <ppf> it's like asking "are there people that like newspapers or volkswagen?"
[13:25] <pc> k1l will do :)
[13:25] <ppf> snapd isn't automated updates and ubuntu one registration isn't required
[13:25] <pc> can you get telegram without registering in ubuntu one?
[13:26] <ppf> yes?
[13:26] <pc> could you tell me how? :)
[13:27] <ppf> it's not part of the official repos, but there are several ppas providing different versions of telegram
[13:27] <pc> I see
[13:28] <ppf> and yes, there's also a snap version, i think
[13:28] <pc> yea thats the one i found also required ubuntu one account "using ubuntu software"
[13:28] <ruin2itive> Does anyone happen to do audio production on Ubuntu?
[13:30] <ppf> pc: i'm like 90-something percent sure that you don't need an ubuntu one account to install a snap
[13:30] <pc> i meant telegram. sorry.
[13:31] <pc> ppf the telegram on ubuntu software required ubuntu one account..
[13:31] <ppf> telegram is no created nor supported by ubuntu/canonical, so i don't see a reason you'd need an ubuntu one account for that
[13:31] <ppf> *not
[13:32] <pc> could you please use the ubuntu software and search for telegram? you will know what im talking about.
[13:34] <Wilkins> enstreetmap
[13:34] <ppf> pc: i don't have it installed
[13:34] <ruin2itive> Audio production?
[13:34] <k1l_> pc: well, that is the ubuntu software telegram app. if you dont want to use a version tied to the ubuntu software center (account with ubuntu one) than use another telegram install.
[13:35] <pc> Thanks
[13:35] <pc> other programs in the ubuntu software are downloadable without needing an ubuntu one account.
[13:36] <k1l_> pc: yes. that depends on the exact program/package.
[13:36] <pc> I see
[13:36] <k1l_> pc: telegram offers a desktop client on their website. use that
[13:36] <pc> I tried. might be more complex to get that running.
[13:37] <ppf> k1l_: what about snap? can you use snap without that ubuntu-software center?
[13:37] <pc> i wasnt saying you cant in fact i dont know.
[13:38] <JP____> ubuntu has telegram? :O
[13:38] <pc> yes JP
[13:38] <k1l_> ppf: yes of course. but as i said, that is not "software center" specific, but that app specific.
[13:38] <ppf> i see
[13:38] <k1l_> telegram wants/needs some sort of account/telephonenumber.
[13:39] <ppf> yes, obviously, but there should be other options than an ubuntu account, i assume
[13:39] <k1l_> yes, use another program/app than the ubuntu telegram app.
[13:39] <k1l_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/425716/how-to-install-telegram
[13:43] <ppf> that a program version is tied to a specific account type, severly confuses me
[13:43] <pc> thats what i was asking if ppl like or not.
[13:44] <pc> which i assume not
[13:44] <ppf> pc: that's a different question though
[13:44] <pc> i wasnt clear is all. i was too general.
[13:44] <ppf> ya
[13:45] <Southern_Gentlem> ppf you can download telegram from the telegram project site as well
[13:45] <ppf> Southern_Gentlem: or from a ppa, sure. but that wasn't my point
[13:46] <k1l_> pc: that version is from the ubuntu touch smartphone and tablet setup. there you have a ubuntu one account. similar to the android store or iphone store account. that is needed for paid apps.
[13:46] <ppf> i like the general idea of ubuntu on, snappy and telegram, but i'm not using either one of them and it doesn't make much sense to really put the three into one sentence :)
[13:47] <ppf> k1l_: that actually makes sense!
[13:47] <pc> i see
[13:47] <pc> im looking forward to the new ubuntu phone..
[13:50] <pc> i will stick with the web based version for now
[13:50] <pc> Thanks k1l
[13:52] <coffeeguy> hi where do i report a bug for unity-tweak-tool?
[13:53] <ppf> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[13:53] <johndoe> how does ubuntu figure out $PATH variable for an app launched from the launcher (ALT+F2)
[13:54] <johndoe> I'm having some issues where the app doesn't pick up the correct $PATH (misses some stuff from the .bashrc)
[13:54] <ppf> processes inherit environment variables from their parent
[13:54] <coffeeguy> ty ppf :)
[13:54] <johndoe> and that's why it works correctly when I run it from the terminal instead the launcher :)
[13:54] <ppf> and the launcher's parent isn't bash, so .bashrc has no effect
[13:54] <johndoe> makes sense right :)
[13:55] <johndoe> ppf: do you know how to "fix" this?
[13:55] <johndoe> ie. how to set the PATH for the launcher
[13:56] <johndoe> or is there some file I can set that makes it's way into $PATH of all processes
[13:56] <ppf> did you check whether .profile works for the launcher?
[13:58] <johndoe> ppf: not sure how to do that
[13:59] <ppf> put your modifications into .profile instead of .bashrc
[13:59] <ppf> then log out and back in
[13:59] <johndoe> python -c "import os;os.system('echo $PATH > /usr/local/google/home/isandrk/test')" into launcher hehe :D
[14:01] <johndoe> ppf: thanks :)
[14:03] <Guest17882> @mio-g ??
[14:15] <DimGR> a
[14:21] <percyc> Hi.
[14:36] <designbybeck> I keep having the box pop up saying i need the "ttf-mscorefonts-installer" When I try to run it, it never works. If I do it from the command line I get these errors. I've tried to remove purge but still get these errors: http://pasteall.org/211949
[14:36] <designbybeck> Any suggestions?
[14:36] <designbybeck> 16.04
[14:36] <hateball> designbybeck: it's broken
[14:36] <designbybeck> hateball, how would that be broken?
[14:37] <naidang> what time is it threre?
[14:37] <naidang> ?
[14:37] <hateball> designbybeck: lemme find the bug
[14:37] <Menzador> designbybeck: try [ sudo dpkg --configure -a ] and then [ sudo apt -f install ]
[14:38] <designbybeck> Menzador, that just went to the prompt and return no errors
[14:38] <clissold345> ppf: Please ignore if you're no longer interested. To install a snap using Ubuntu Software you have to log on to Ubuntu One.
[14:38] <k1l_> designbybeck: wget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/m/msttcorefonts/ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.6_all.deb -P ~/Downloads
[14:39] <k1l_> designbybeck: then "sudo apt install ~/Downloads/ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.6_all.deb"
[14:39] <designbybeck> k1l_, ...that seems to have worked
[14:39] <Menzador> k1l_ , designbybeck - if it helps, there's some sort of "Access denied" error when trying to fake-escalate privileges. I'm not sure if it was fixed.
[14:39] <ppf> clissold345: why?? is that also true if i install the snap from the terminal?
[14:39] <k1l_> the download scripts on the ms ttf package is broken since sourceforge changed some things
[14:40] <designbybeck> k1l_, though I did get this error at the end: All done, no errors.
[14:40] <designbybeck> N: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file '/home/beck/Downloads/ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.6_all.deb' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)
[14:40] <k1l_> the debian package already fixed that
[14:40] <designbybeck> but other than that it seems to have gone
[14:40] <hateball> designbybeck: this is the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/1607535
[14:40] <designbybeck> thank you hateball
[14:41] <designbybeck> yeah that seems to be what was happening to me hateball
[14:41] <designbybeck> thank you Menzador k1l_ and hateball for the help. Hopefully with k1l_ solution, I'll not get the error anymore
[14:41] <Chrisc99> Yo
[14:41] <Chrisc99> i just finished installing Ubuntu 16.04
[14:42] <Chrisc99> and i get this error
[14:42] <Chrisc99> cryptsetup: unknown fstype, bad password or options?
[14:42] <Chrisc99> My pass is correct
[14:42] <clissold345> ppf: I don't know why (Canonical want to keep an eye on how people are using snaps?). No you don't need to log on to Ubuntu One if you install from the command line.
[14:42] <EriC^^> Chrisc99: did you let the installer do all the encryption stuff?
[14:42] <ducasse> clissold345: it's because some snaps cost money
[14:43] <Chrisc99> i set up the encryption volume
[14:43] <ppf> ducasse: what about installing those from ther terminal then?
[14:43] <ducasse> ppf: then you need to use 'snap login'
[14:43] <ppf> alright
[14:43] <Chrisc99> 200G total, 50G /, 142G /home, 8GB swap
[14:44] <EriC^^> Chrisc99: how'd you do that? any guide?
[14:44] <ppf> so we're slowly leaving the OSS path here
[14:44] <ppf> great.
[14:44] <Chrisc99> and then an unencrypted boot part
[14:44] <Chrisc99> EriC^^: i did it myself
[14:44] <EriC^^> Chrisc99: what's in /etc/crypttab?
[14:45] <Chrisc99> I have no idea, my root is encrypted and i can't unencrypt it
[14:46] <EriC^^> boot a live usb and decrypt it with luksOpen
[14:46] <Chrisc99> should i just redo the installation without encryption?
[14:46] <clissold345> ducasse: Thanks for the info. Can you give me the name of a snap you have to pay for?
[14:46] <noc_> typed the password with caps lock?
[14:46] <EriC^^> Chrisc99: why don't you let the installer do all the stuff?
[14:47] <yotu> hi there, does someone recommends an online storage for backups?
[14:47] <k1l_> ppf: no. its the same situation as before. its not leaving oss. there were prop. software long before snaps on other package formats
[14:48] <ducasse> clissold345: i don't remember any at the moment, but in the snap man page you will see the 'buy' option.
[14:49] <ppf> k1l_: sure, but if i need an account to install non-prop. software that's not very open
[14:49] <k1l_> ppf: you are mixing a lot of things here
[14:49] <k1l_> ppf: and there has been commercial apps from open source software long before, too.
[14:50] <ducasse> ppf: you don't need an account to install free snaps from cli
[14:50] <ppf> k1l_: yes, that's not the point i'm debating
[14:50] <ppf> ducasse: hm, yes, true, that kind of invalidates my argument
[14:50] <hazard> When I turn on Network Time in the System Settings, then switch to some other setting and back, I find it turned off again. Any suggestions why that might be, or how I can fix it? I'm up to about 7 minutes off by now.
[14:51] <ppf> ducasse: i'm hoping it stays that way
[14:51] <ppf> also, still not jumping the snappy/flatpack/whathavyou bandwagon, i'll yet wait for the smoke to clear
[14:52] <tatertots> hazard: can you open terminal?
[14:52] <hazard> tatertots: I can.
[14:52] <tatertots> hazard: good, do so and
[14:53] <tatertots> hazard: sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[14:53] <k1l_> ppf: there is a need for programmers to monetize their work for the apps. you see that demand on the mobile app stores. a modern app store or package system needs to support that. or you cut out a lot of community.
[14:53] <JP____> How do i add GUI to standard vim install?
[14:53] <tatertots> hazard: let me know once the install has completed
[14:53] <JP____> @ ubuntu minimal 14.04
[14:54] <hazard> tatertots: I can paste to my web server. Does inxi do soemthing I can't get from cat'ing the files directly?
[14:55] <ppf> k1l_: yes, i agree (although philosophically i think software should be free). and as long as this doesn't interfere with the free folk i'm happy
[14:55] <brainwash> JP____: install vim-gtk3
[14:55] <clissold345> ducasse: Thanks for the tip about paid-for snaps. I'll make a note to do some research some time.
[14:55] <tatertots> hazard: look, we can proceed but the very moment i need some info to help you that you can't instantly provide with %100 accuracy and detail...i'll drop you like a bad habit
[14:56] <k1l_> ppf: philosophy doesnt pay the bills :) and i dont go  with the claim, that stealing is better than getting money for programming.
[14:56] <JP____> brainwash, doesn't exist
[14:57] <hazard> tatertots: Better just jump to that step now then. I thought it was a simple question, and would rather go back to googling than jump through hoops for a condescending stranger.
[14:57] <tatertots> hazard: no worries :) good luck
[14:57] <hazard> Thanks.
[14:57] <brainwash> JP____: then vim-gtk or vim-gnome
[14:57] <JP____> vim-gtk reacts :p
[14:58] <ducasse> hazard: what does 'timedatectl status' say for network time?
[14:58] <ppf> k1l_: that's probably a discussion to be had alongside several bottles of wine :)
[14:58] <brainwash> JP____: I assume that you run ubuntu 14.04
[14:58] <ppf> can i have multiple sources for snaps?
[14:58] <ppf> as with apt's sources?
[14:58] <hazard> ducasse: Any particular part, or shall I paste the whole thing somewhere?
[14:59] <JP____> brainwash: correct
[14:59] <k1l_> ppf: http://snapcraft.io/docs/core/store
[14:59] <ducasse> hazard: 'network time on:'
[15:00] <hazard> ducasse: That line doesn't exist. Closest I see would be "NTP enabled: no"
[15:00] <ppf> k1l_: alright, that's not too bad
[15:00] <ducasse> hazard: which ubuntu version is this?
[15:00] <ElectroXexual> hey
[15:01] <ElectroXexual> can I ask a question related to ssh and bash
[15:01] <ElectroXexual> ?
[15:01] <ppf> ElectroXexual: sure
[15:02] <hazard> Crap.
[15:02] <hazard> ducasse: Thanks, but my 10 o'clock just arrived. I had lost track of time. I'll have to pursue this later.
[15:02] <ElectroXexual> I'm trying to set variable value from machine A as Clip board content in machine B
[15:02] <ElectroXexual> with xclip
[15:03] <EriC^^> ElectroXexual: DISPLAY=:0 echo "$var" | xclip command here
[15:04] <noc_> JP____, gvim?
[15:04] <EriC^^> ElectroXexual: i think you'd need to run xhost to allow the ssh to use the xserver
[15:04] <ppf> does xclip have a gui
[15:04] <ppf> ?
[15:04] <ElectroXexual> I tried "ssh xex "echo $Clip | xclip"" But it gives some error
[15:04] <ElectroXexual> no
[15:04] <EriC^^> no, but it's related to X so it needs the DISPLAY var
[15:05] <ElectroXexual> what does DISPLAY=: does?
[15:05] <EriC^^> ElectroXexual: try on machine B, xhost +
[15:05] <EriC^^> ElectroXexual: it tells it which display to use
[15:05] <noc_> don't xhost unless you trust other users
[15:05] <EriC^^> echo $DISPLAY on machine B should say what it's set to
[15:05] <noc_> ''echo $Clip | DISPLAY=:0 xclip''
[15:06] <EriC^^> noc_: it's just for testing purposes right now, good point though
[15:06] <DarkStar1> Hi people
[15:06] <ppf> xclip takes a -d argument
[15:06] <ducasse> DISPLAY should not be :0 when you're connected over ssh
[15:07] <ppf> why not
[15:07] <DarkStar1> what does the -HUP passed to Kill command do in a bash script?
[15:07] <EriC^^> ducasse: for the host it is though
[15:07] <DarkStar1> I ask because I can't seem to find answers via google
[15:07] <ppf> DarkStar1: send SIGHUP to the process
[15:07] <dn`> I’m using zfs with LXD. each time I reboot a LXD host ‘zpool list’ shows ‘no pools available’ and LXD starts using the local filesystem again - anyone got a hint?
[15:07] <DarkStar1> ppf: which is the same as -9 right?
[15:07] <ppf> the kill program is very inaptly named
[15:07] <ducasse> EriC^^: yes, but he's trying to access X on the host from the client, right?
[15:08] <EriC^^> ducasse: yeah
[15:08] <DarkStar1> ppf: I just noticed that the parent dies but not the child :/
[15:08] <DarkStar1> or children rather
[15:08] <ppf> DarkStar1: no, HUP is 1
[15:08] <ppf> 9 is SIGKILL
[15:08] <ppf> see also man 7 signal
[15:09] <DarkStar1> ppf: so in bash script terminology kill -KILL ?? :)
[15:09] <riccardo_> heyy
[15:09] <Southern_Gentlem> DarkStar1, yep thats how zombies are made
[15:09] <ppf> DarkStar1: yes
[15:09] <DarkStar1> Thnaks
[15:09] <ppf> DarkStar1: or kill -9 or kill -SIGKILL
[15:09] <tpw_rules> relatively frequently my system pops up a dialog to the effect of "could not complete package installation: ttf-mscorefonts-installer. extra download failed. retry?
[15:09] <ducasse> ElectroXexual: use 'xsel -b', i just tested that here
[15:10] <tpw_rules> and i do, but it doesn't go away
[15:10] <ppf> tpw_rules: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/1607535
[15:13] <tpw_rules> ppf: ah that worked, thank you
[15:14] <ElectroXexual> ducasse, ok i'll try that
[15:18] <ElectroXexual> ducasse, can you write out full command starting with ssh, I'm getting some unexpected EOF error.....ty
[15:19] <ElectroXexual> and echo $DISPLAY says 0.0
[15:20] <ducasse> i already have the ssh connection open, then just run 'cat foobar.txt | xsel -b'. are you connecting with ssh -X?
[15:21] <EriC^^> ducasse: ssh -X is the opposite isn't it?
[15:21] <EriC^^> to run on the current (client) X ?
[15:21] <groundze1o> hello
[15:21] <ElectroXexual> i'm trying to run just this one command and exit
[15:21] <ducasse> EriC^^: '-X      Enables X11 forwarding.'
[15:22] <ElectroXexual> i'm not using -X
[15:22] <JP____> I'm not on X either :p
[15:22] <groundze1o> question: i did not install tor brower...but nethogs shows me that tor is making connections (user "debian")...wtf??
[15:22] <ducasse> ElectroXexual: you need to, or enable x11 forwarding in your config
[15:23] <k1l_> groundze1o: what ubuntu is it? did you isntall other anonymous programs?
[15:23] <EriC^^> ducasse: yes so if you ssh to a server, and then run gedit there, it opens up on your client X, is it needed if he wants to access X on the server too?
[15:24] <ducasse> EriC^^: no, but that's not what he's doing - he wants to send content from ssh server to x clipboard on client.
[15:25] <EriC^^> ducasse: no, he wants to send it to the ssh server, and have it on the server's clipboard
[15:26] <EriC^^> but it is needed btw it seems, i tried it locally and without -X it wouldn't work
[15:26] <ElectroXexual> I tried '   ssh xex -X "echo $Clip | xsel -b"   ' It gives xsel: Can't open display: (null)
[15:26] <ElectroXexual> : Inappropriate ioctl for device
[15:26] <ElectroXexual>  error
[15:26] <ducasse> EriC^^: '16:02 <ElectroXexual> I'm trying to set variable value from machine A as Clip board content in machine B'
[15:26] <noc_>  ''echo $Clip | DISPLAY=:whatever xclip''    where whatever is the DISPLAY on the server
[15:26] <EriC^^> ducasse: yes, machine A is the client and machine B the server
[15:26] <EriC^^> isn't it? ElectroXexual ?
[15:27] <ElectroXexual> yep that's right
[15:27] <ElectroXexual> machine A is client
[15:27] <noc_> or xsel or the like, that's not the point
[15:29] <ducasse> ElectroXexual: oh, in that case you need to set DISPLAY and mess with xhost on the server, yes.
[15:30] <EriC^^> ElectroXexual: try "xhost +" on the server for now, then ssh -X xex "echo $Clip | DISPLAY=:0 xsel -b"
[15:30] <noc_> again, you don't need xhost (and don't want, unless you trust the other users of the server not to show deceiving windows on your own session)
[15:30] <EriC^^> noc_: don't need?
[15:31] <noc_> DISPLAY must work fine by itself without xhost, if not then you're using it wrong
[15:31] <noc_> ofc assuming that the user you logged in via ssh is the same user who owns the X session
[15:31] <EriC^^> noc_: yeah, you're right
[15:32] <EriC^^> ElectroXexual: nevermind the xhost command
[15:33] <ducasse> you'll need to set XAUTHORITY, though
[15:34] <EriC^^> i tried from tty1 DISPLAY=:0 gedit without xhost and it worked
[15:34] <ikevin> ssh -X user@ip gedit :)
[15:35] <ashmawy> hey you all
[15:35] <EriC^^> hey
[15:35] <ashmawy>  I need help with my ubuntu
[15:35] <EriC^^> with what exactly?
[15:36] <noc_> ducasse, I'm pretty sure xauthority is not needed if the user logged in via ssh has the same uid as the X session
[15:37] <ashmawy> i dont know but everytime my brother sits on a linux device all bugs popups
[15:37] <ducasse> noc_: you might be right there, i typically don't use x in this direction :)
[15:38] <ElectroXexual> EriC^^, Thanks the last command worked somehow
[15:38] <ashmawy> and i need to know how to setup oracle database on ubuntu
[15:38] <ashmawy> EriC^^, how to setup oracle database and oracle j dev on linux
[15:38] <noc_> heh
[15:39] <OSPF_> exit
[15:39] <ashmawy> EriC^^,  exactly i wanna to know how to setup files .rpm on ubuntu
[15:39] <JBF> hey all, hoping someone can help me with a systemd issue
[15:40] <ikevin> JBF, which issue?
[15:40] <ashmawy> ikevin, how to setup .rpm on ubuntu
[15:40] <ashmawy> buddies i need help really with that
[15:40] <Southern_Gentlem> ashmawy,  you mean build rpm files or install rpm files
[15:40] <JBF> I have an issue with a service which won't start, the journalctl -xe output says the required PID directory doesn't exist.  Inside the init script it is supposed to check for and create the PID directory if it doesn't exist.
[15:41] <ikevin> JBF, does the script have right to create it?
[15:41] <ikevin> ashmawy, see alien
[15:41] <JBF> well this is a good question, how would I check that?  I presumed the init script runs as root?
[15:43] <ikevin> JBF, script is run as root, so it can drop priviliege
[15:44] <ashmawy> Southern_Gentlem, I mean that when i download some programe from oracle site the excutable is .rpm
[15:44] <ashmawy> Southern_Gentlem, i wanna install this programe
[15:45] <ashmawy> ikevin,  do you mean aliens UFO and spaceships or what
[15:45] <ashmawy> ???
[15:45] <ikevin> ashmawy, alien - convert and install rpm and other packages
[15:46] <ub_ubuntu> Hello I have a external HDD. I am not able to open a Directory inside it. Its says Input/Output error. Any thoughts??
[15:46] <JBF> how do I know if this is a privilege issue?  It doesn't say it failed to create the dir, it just says it doesn't exist
[15:46] <ashmawy> ikevin,  thanks alot i will try it now
[15:46] <ikevin> JBF, you need to debug the script to see if it try to create the directory
[15:47] <ducasse> ub_ubuntu: check dmesg for similar errors
[15:48] <ub_ubuntu> ducasse: Okay. How can I fix it.? Is this issue fixable??
[15:48] <ducasse> ub_ubuntu: did you find similar errors in dmesg?
[15:48] <ikevin> IO error are often hardware problem
[15:49] <ducasse> almost always
[15:50] <akis> hi all. are they somewhere available ubuntu default system sounds?
[15:50] <ppf> JBF: where is this init script coming from?
[15:50] <JBF> it's the sickrage init script
[15:50] <JBF> https://github.com/SiCKRAGETV/SiCKRAGE/blob/master/runscripts/init.ubuntu
[15:51] <ashmawy> ikevin,  it workled it worked thanks bro you are awesome you will survive after the end of the world
[15:51] <ikevin> JBF, does the parent directory is mounted when the script try to create the pid dir?
[15:51] <ashmawy> ikevin,  but you may die after that
[15:51] <ikevin> lol ashmawy
[15:51] <ppf> JBF: i don't immediately see what's wrong with that
[15:51] <JBF> yes /var/run (linked to /run) is there
[15:51] <ppf> but my general suggestion is: just create your own systemd unit
[15:52] <ub_ubuntu> ducasse: How will the error look like
[15:52] <JBF> Nor do I, it's weird, it used to work, then I recovered the VM from a veeam backup due to a host failure and now it won't work
[15:52] <ub_ubuntu> ducasse: dmesg is not showing anything
[15:52] <ducasse> JBF: don't use the init script, use the systemd unit. and don't use that repo - it's buggy as hell.
[15:52] <ppf> JBF: hm, this might well be a symptom for a bigger problem
[15:52] <ppf> is there anything else wrong?
[15:52] <JBF> ppf I think it might be
[15:53] <JBF> at some point before this failure, I did upgrade teh system to 16.04 LTS
[15:53] <JBF> but it worked fine after that, until now
[15:53] <JBF> one off think is that they system is using init.d whereas a fresh install of 16.04LTS that I have is using upstart
[15:54] <JBF> could be be an issue related to that?  Thing is I have other systemd started apps (sabnzbd etc) on the same VM runnign and starting fine
[15:54] <ppf> how did you get upstart in there?
[15:55] <ppf> ubuntu is running on systemd now
[15:55] <JBF> hmm, I have no idea
[15:55] <ppf> (and fwiw it's been upstart for a long while now)
[15:55] <JBF> the whols upstart / systemd thing is annoying for a casual user like me
[15:55] <k1l_> ubuntu is using systemd as init since 15.04.
[15:56] <ppf> JBF: as a normal user you don't really need to worry about it
[15:56] <JBF> yeah until I get an issue like this and try to troubleshoot :)
[15:56] <ppf> systemctl integrates with old upstart scripts, so you won't really need to
[15:57] <JBF> ok good to know so I won't worry about that then
[15:57] <ppf> JBF: use this instead of the script above: https://github.com/SiCKRAGETV/SiCKRAGE/blob/master/runscripts/init.systemd
[15:57] <ppf> that might just treat the symptom though
[15:58] <JBF> ppf same error
[15:59] <ppf> you need to disable and then remove the upstart script, and then enable the systemd unit
[15:59] <JBF> no there's not upsTART SCRIPT FOR SICKRAGESO FAR AS i KNOW
[15:59] <JBF> sorry caps
[15:59] <ppf> JBF: the script you linked above
[16:00] <ducasse> JBF: are you aware you're not running the code from the 'official' sickrage repo? the official one works just fine with 16.04
[16:00] <plasticfish> is there a driver for (relativelly old) ATI cards in 16.04?
[16:00] <nicomachus> plasticfish: the open source radeon driver works for my 6450 HD
[16:00] <k1l_> plasticfish: the open source driver, yes
[16:00] <JBF> ducasse I'm not sure that's teh repo I'm actually using
[16:00] <Pr33x> Hey. Can someone let me know how to "(sys)prep" a Linux system to ISO? I just want to ISO everything I have done in this vm and just reinstall it on other hypervisors. :)
[16:00] <nicomachus> plasticfish: which card?
[16:01] <JBF> that's just one the I found when checking for an example just now
[16:01] <ub_ubuntu> \quit
[16:01] <ducasse> JBF: the official one is at https://github.com/SickRage/SickRage
[16:02] <JBF> Yep just checked my GIT config, it's https://github.com/SickRage/SickRage
[16:02] <plasticfish> I tried installing Ubuntu on a Visio HP all in one computer when 16.04 was released and the graphics only started sometimes, and with delay
[16:02] <ducasse> JBF: ok, i just (slightly) modified the unit and enabled it, that was all
[16:03] <plasticfish> the computer is not mine, but I had to revert to 14.04
[16:03] <plasticfish> I just wanted to know how is the driver now
[16:08] <JBF> same error with that script
[16:08] <JBF> giving up for now I have work to do, will try again tonight
[16:08] <JBF> thanks fr the pointers guys
[16:14] <DarkStar1> How can I kill the processes belonging to a group ID from within my bash script? I have thi: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/535149/18805114/
[16:15] <DarkStar1> but I get errors about the number being illegal
[16:18] <ppf> DarkStar1: check out man pkill
[16:19] <ppf> but as a hint: if you're writing a script to start and stop some sort of daemon process, may consider using systemd units instead. don't reinvent the wheel
[16:19] <DarkStar1> ppf: Just modifying someelse's script :)
[16:20] <Metalindustrien> Hey, I'm trying to install Ubuntu MATE on my MacBook Pro (late 2011 model). I've installed rEFInd in order to be able to boot from a USB Flash drive, and I've created a Ubuntu MATE USB Stick via UNetbootin. But when I try to boot from the USB stick, it seems to launch Grub in a terminal stating something like "MINIMAL BASH LIKE LINE EDITING IS SUPPORTED". How can I get it to boot from the flash drive?
[16:20] <ppf> still though. systemd units solve the exact same problem with 10 lines of declarative configuration
[16:24] <ashmawy> how to setup ettercap on ubuntu
[16:27] <pos> I'm fairly certain that this question has been asked and answered before, yet I find myself unable to find a suitable answer online. Who decided to effectively deprecate utilities such as gnu macchanger in favor of network-manager functionality so archaic that it makes Vogon bureaucracy look like a marital aid in comparison?
[16:28] <ebonrook> hello everyone
[16:29] <ppf> !info macchanger | pos
[16:30] <pos> ppf, oh, great. thanks man!
[16:31] <theseb> why would my old phone automount file sys but this android phone NO?
[16:32] <theseb> old working one was android too
[16:33] <pos> !info finger | ppf
[16:34] <ppf> theseb: better ask that question in #android
[16:35] <ppf> pos: ?
[16:35] <pos> ppf, there is a slap and a large trout in there, somewhere
[16:36] <ppf> right ... just install macchanger if you'd like to use it
[16:37] <Savago> g.
[16:37] <pos> ppf, did you get the impression that I was unaware of the tools existence or that the tool somehow has been rendered ineffective by a change in network-manager?
[16:38] <pos> ppf, there are a few problems with the first assumption
[16:40] <ducasse> pos: don't use nm if it causes problems for you, there are other ways to manage networking
[16:40] <ppf> then what is the problem with nm?
[16:41] <Bent0> Googled but cant find it for some reason. How the hell do I block an IPv6 address with ufw?
[16:42] <pos> ppf, hints: "deprecate" "macchanger" "network-manager" "functionality"
[16:42] <Bent0> all i get is ERROR: Invalid position '1'
[16:42] <Bent0> ha
[16:43] <ppf> pos: yeah, can you substantiate that claim somehow?
[16:45] <pos> ppf, xenial=nm 1.2.2, nm=>1.2 = overrides macchanger, nm=<1.4 lacks functionality to adequately replace it
[16:45] <pos> so they apparently decided to screw people and then figured out that they had some twelve revisions laster
[16:45] <pos> later
[16:46] <ducasse> pos: file a request for a stable release update
[16:48] <pos> what, do I badger MS?
[16:49] <ducasse> MS?
[16:51] <ducasse> !sru
[16:53] <pos> ducasse, shuttle*****
[16:54] <ducasse> pos: just see the link from ubottu, and drop the attitude. it's entirely unwarranted.
[16:56] <pos> waddaya know: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1645698
[17:00] <abel_> host  irc.gnome.org
[17:02] <yacc>  Any description how to move an Ubuntu 16.04 install (lvm, UEFI boot) to a new harddisc?
[17:03] <bad_ip> yacc: you'd need to be more specific. There's several approaches you could use to do that.
[17:03] <bad_ip> yacc: more specific about what you want to achieve that is.
[17:03] <ducasse> yacc: same size?
[17:03] <yacc> 60GB SSD => 960GB SSD, so no :)
[17:05] <yacc> So a simple dd of the block device is out. (It does not work that well anyways, because n GB from manufacturer A has usually a couple of blocks more or less than the same amount of GB from manufacturer B, and Murphy's law dictates that your new n GB disc is slightly smaller than your old n GB disc)
[17:05] <ducasse> yacc: i'd probably partition and set up lvm on the new disk, then rsync the efi partition + root fs across. you'll also need to update grub and the efi variable
[17:06] <bad_ip> yacc: ducasse has a good solution for exactly your situation then
[17:06] <yacc> Ok, so the question how do I update the EFI variable, and grub? (Hint: the new harddisc will be replacing the old one, the box has only space for one 2.5" device)
[17:07] <Southern_Gentlem> or back your data up and install on the new hd  and then copy your data back
[17:08] <ducasse> or that.
[17:09] <EriC^^> yacc: you'll need to edit fstab and put the new efi partition's uuid
[17:10] <yacc> Southern_Gentlem, Not very attractive, as most of my customizing is in the system part ;)
[17:10] <ducasse> yacc: i'd guess clonezilla can deal with different disk sizes, or you can just grow them after install. you'd still need to use efibootmgr, though.
[17:10] <EriC^^> and then chroot and run apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64 and then update-grub, it should take care of the efi vars if you booted the live usb in uefi mode
[17:10] <yacc> Southern_Gentlem, up till now the box was basically my SOHO router.
[17:11] <yacc> Southern_Gentlem, now it's supposed to become my work desktop beside, to see if I can live with the Celeron inside.
[17:12] <pos> yacc, boot media, flash drive and tar will save the day
[17:12] <pos> so: cd/dvd, external/backup storage, some-tar-and-chroot-fu and presto
[17:13] <bad_ip> any ideas what would cause Ubuntu Software Center to just keep spinning when you select "updates" or "installed"?
[17:13] <Southern_Gentlem> yacc,  hopefully you know what you customized at the system level and can back up those configs as well
[17:13] <yacc> EriC^^, actually, if I just copy the efi partition it will still have the same uuid.
[17:13] <EriC^^> yacc: "just copy" how?
[17:13] <EriC^^> you mean dd it?
[17:13] <yacc> EriC^^, exactly.
[17:14] <EriC^^> well, sure yeah, that's an option
[17:14] <PipeItToDevNull> bad_ip: the center sucks, just run it through a terminal
[17:14] <pos> yacc, just remember to mount --bind /proc,/sys,/dev/,/dev/pts onto target/etc
[17:14] <pos> before update-grub2
[17:14] <pos> wait, install-grub
[17:15] <bad_ip> PipeItToDevNull: noted
[17:15] <EriC^^> * grub-install
[17:15] <pos> right
[17:15] <pos> 32 hours, no sleep
[17:15] <yacc> Objectively I know that it has gotten so much easier compared to the old LILO days, but somehow I miss them ;)
[17:20] <theseb> ppf: rthanks!
[17:20] <alipc> hi
[17:20] <EriC^^> hi
[17:21] <alipc> Does amd-gpu supports radeon hd8750 graphics card?
[17:23] <Guest55973> i am seeking help snappy ubuntu for raspberry
[17:23] <nicomachus> Guest55973: try #ubuntu-arm
[17:24] <Guest55973> what is the default psswrd for ssh connection?
[17:24] <piercedwater> Guest55973: it is your account password
[17:24] <PipeItToDevNull> The defulat password is the account password that you are connecting with
[17:25] <PipeItToDevNull> If you connect without a -l arguemnt it will use your current login name
[17:26] <PipeItToDevNull> so connect with `ssh IP -l pi`
[17:28] <culhudo> Running UPS with ubuntu 14.04; built a crontab list; a few items are '* * wget -q'. Why is my root folder filled with what seems to be a history of those wget links?
[17:29] <yabbah> I use autofs to mount a NFS-share from my nas. How do I get other users have read/write-access to it?
[17:33] <Arvu> Hi I need some help I guess
[17:33] <PipeItToDevNull> With?
[17:34] <nicomachus> !ask | Arvu
[17:34] <Arvu> Alright, so I hard a hard drive failure, and my blank hard drive decided that the version of windows I had on it would not work, so I put ubuntu on it
[17:35] <PipeItToDevNull> And?
[17:35] <Arvu> But now, I can't add any software or apps. The software thing doesn't open, and the only app I can access is firestorm
[17:36] <PipeItToDevNull> Are you running standard Ubuntu? What does the panel and menu do?
[17:36] <Arvu> Erm Firefox
[17:36] <nicomachus> Arvu: can you install software from apt in a terminal?
[17:37] <Arvu> I don't know how to do that, I am a very new user, had friends recomend linux/ubuntu to me
[17:37] <PipeItToDevNull> Arvu: What software are you trying to install?
[17:37] <Arvu> Chromium and the linux version of discord for now
[17:37] <nicomachus> Arvu: open a terminal (either from the Dash menu or by pressing Ctrl+Alt+T) and type "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999"
[17:38] <PipeItToDevNull> Discord will be from a PPA more than likely, though they have a web-version that functions just fine. Chromium can be installed with `sudo apt-get install chromium`
[17:38] <piercedwater> chromium-browser*
[17:40] <BluesKaj> too many cooks are going to confuse the new guy
[17:41] <Arvu> I'm actually less confused lol
[17:42] <BluesKaj> good
[17:42] <Guest42437> hello
[17:42] <PipeItToDevNull> Hello
[17:43] <Guest42437> hello
[17:43] <Guest42437> alguem br krl ?
[17:43] <nicomachus> yes yes, hello everyone. if you have a question please ask it.
[17:43] <BluesKaj> !pt
[17:47] <tonyt> does anyone recall the export command for nano?
[17:47] <Arvu> Hmm no it's still not opening ubuntu software at all
[17:48] <PipeItToDevNull> Arvu: The software center is buggy and has never worked for me, I would recommend installing from comamnd line, it should be as easy as `sudo apt-get install chromium-browser`
[17:48] <BluesKaj> Arvu, type terminal in the search, then do the command quoted above
[17:49] <Arvu> There we go
[17:49] <PipeItToDevNull> Chromium opens and functions for you?
[17:50] <Arvu> It's installing now
[17:50] <BluesKaj> btw , ctl+alt+t doesn't work on some ubuntu flavours
[17:50] <PipeItToDevNull> Welcome to Linux, where we have almost all software available from a single command
[17:51] <alipc> i have a dell laptop and it has a hybrid amd hd 8670 / intel skylake  graphics card . and by default intel graphics card is in use . and i want to enable my radeon hd graphic . can anyone help me?
[17:52] <Arvu> Ok well it opened fora second then immediately closed
[17:53] <BluesKaj> Arvu, also to update and upgrade your system and packages , periodically run: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[17:54] <BluesKaj> Arvu, which I think you should do now
[17:55] <turqalx> alipc: there may be a BIOS option to set default
[18:00] <Bombo> hi
[18:00] <PipeItToDevNull> Hi
[18:05] <NatureShade> Anyone has any idea of why xorg fails with blinking crusor with this config file in xorg.conf.d: paste.ubuntu.com/23853216/ Xorg.0.log: paste.ubuntu.com/23853209/
[18:08] <ducasse> NatureShade: you are forcing the modesetting driver, does the gpu support that?
[18:08] <NatureShade> not sure but xorg -configure gives a config file with modesetting
[18:09] <Bombo> i'm using ubuntu 16.04.1 with nvidia driver 367.57-0ubuntu0.16.04, nvidia-settings 361.42-0ubuntu1, with a screen res of 1280x720 and the screen is cut off a few px OVER the borders (some px missing), but the nvidia settings only allow UNDERscan, which increases the not-viewable screen. any tricks on that?
[18:09] <ducasse> NatureShade: that works?
[18:09] <NatureShade> I will see
[18:10] <NatureShade> ducasse: is it possible to not spesify a driver in xorg config files?
[18:11] <ducasse> NatureShade: it should just probe for one then, xorg.conf is not necessary at all normally
[18:12] <NatureShade> well, the main goal is to setup two monitors on two diffrent screens, but figured it was best too try to make one work properly first
[18:14] <ducasse> NatureShade: i'd let xorg generate a config and start there
[18:15] <NatureShade> ducasse: it seems the xorg generated config has the same problem
[18:15] <CodeMouse92> I don't know if this is the place to ask, but I'm having to do a kernel commit bisection (on Ubuntu 16.04). I have two compilers (GCC and Clang), but I'm getting an error on the kernel build about the ABI hashes changing. I updated Clang, but I didn't touch GCC - yet whichever I'm using, the build fails with that error.
[18:16] <CodeMouse92> I also did a full git clean -rxff and tried again, same problem. Do I need to scrap the bisect and start over, or is there another way to fix this?
[18:16] <CodeMouse92> Sorry, -dxff, not -rxff :P
[18:18] <ducasse> NatureShade: what kind of gpu(s)?
[18:19] <NatureShade> ducasse: not really sure, it is an old dell latitude, think it's a intel one
[18:19] <xmodule> hi
[18:20] <NatureShade> seems it's a Intel GMA X3100
[18:20] <ducasse> NatureShade: what do you mean by 'two monitors on two different screens'? are both monitors connected to the same gpu?
[18:21] <xmodule> do you guys have any idea why i have so bad battery time under ubuntu? i have a quite new thinkpad t460. the battery time under win10 was excellent but here on ubuntu is very bad actually
[18:21] <PipeItToDevNull> Run `tlp` and `powertop` packages,
[18:21] <xmodule> PipeItToDevNull, done
[18:22] <xmodule> i googled litle bit before i come here
[18:22] <PipeItToDevNull> I amd running Manjaro but have shit life regardless of my distribution
[18:22] <NatureShade> ducasse: yes, same gpu. And I want two logical X screens, so that it becomes easy to display diffrent applications on each of them, for a embeded system type of thing
[18:23] <yabbah> Anyone know how I can do a dnsleak-test (using openvpn) in terminal? I dont have any GUI.
[18:26] <ducasse> NatureShade: seems that gpu is supported by the intel driver, or should be. try forcing that.
[18:27] <NatureShade> i will
[18:28] <gebruiker> NatureShade: no you will not
[18:28] <NatureShade> not?
[18:28] <gebruiker> we both know
[18:29] <NatureShade> know what?
[18:29] <tgm4883> NatureShade: ignore the troll
[18:29] <gebruiker> tgm4883 wants to be ignored again, he got banned last time. Still hasn't learned his lesson NatureShade
[18:30] <tgm4883>  Boring troll is boring...
[18:31] <gebruiker> see :O
[18:31] <Pici> gebruiker: knock it off.
[18:31] <gebruiker> Pici: are you a moderator?
[18:31] <nicomachus> he's an op.
[18:32] <NatureShade> ducasse: seems the problem persists with the intel driver
[18:33] <overrun> on an LTS server running Trusty 14.04.1, since it is still within the support window why does a package such as Apache still list as version 2.4.7 when there have been security patches to that project through 2.4.23?
[18:33] <NatureShade> but it works fine without any additional config
[18:33] <kulelu88> hello all. when I follow the following guide and try to set date/time for bash history in the .bashrc file, after doing the setup, I do not see timestamps in .bash_history
[18:33] <ducasse> overrun: security patches are backported
[18:34] <kulelu88> overrun: the actual version is not 2.4.7 but something like 2.4.7.x
[18:34] <overrun> so 2.4.7-1ubuntu4.13 means it has recent security updates included then?
[18:34] <kulelu88> link to my question above: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/unix-linux-bash-history-display-date-time/
[18:34] <NatureShade> xorg log without any additional config http://paste.ubuntu.com/23853319/
[18:34] <joinrer> how do i install thhonny or pycharm?
[18:34] <kulelu88> overrun: yep. just the security backports, nothing else
[18:35] <joinrer> is there such a paackage for ubuntu
[18:35] <tgm4883> overrun: I would suggest subscribing to https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[18:35] <joinrer> or will i need to add a new repo for that
[18:35] <Bashing-om> !info pycharm xenial
[18:35] <joinrer> or will i need to compile from source ?
[18:35] <Pici> joinrer: pycharm is not in the repos. Follow the directions on their website to install it.
[18:35] <kulelu88> joinrer: there should be a .deb
[18:35] <joinrer> what about thonny
[18:35] <joinrer> kulelu88: where exactly
[18:36] <kulelu88> joinrer: on the download page of pycharm?
[18:36] <joinrer> compile from source you mean
[18:36] <kulelu88> no, an actual .deb (in some cases)
[18:36] <joinrer> ok
[18:36] <overrun> thank you all for the clarification
[18:37] <ducasse> NatureShade: try generating a config, then change the driver to intel.
[18:37] <joinrer> which site is it for pycharm
[18:38] <Pici> joinrer: https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/
[18:41] <NatureShade> ducasse: same problem
[18:42] <elisa87> please have a look at this question http://superuser.com/questions/1170699/cant-ping-a-windows-10-through-ubuntu-both-connected-to-the-same-switch
[18:44] <ducasse> NatureShade: ok. i'm not sure how to do exactly what you're looking for, but you could try a very minimal snippet in xorg.conf.d that just specifies the layout without mentioning driver or anything else.
[18:44] <kulelu88> Just to repeat my question: hello all. when I follow the following guide and try to set date/time for bash history in the .bashrc file, after doing the setup, I do not see timestamps in .bash_history : https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/unix-linux-bash-history-display-date-time/
[18:45] <NatureShade> ducasse: thanks for the help anyway, I will see if I can find anything
[18:45] <jeffreylevesque> is there an alternative to hostnamectl?
[18:45] <ducasse> NatureShade: try the arch wiki, or #xorg
[18:46] <NatureShade> thanks!
[18:56] <adalbert> jeffreylevesque: manually edit /etc/hosts ?
[19:05] <gde33> how enable error reporting in firefox for ubuntu?
[19:06] <ducasse> !hostname | jeffreylevesque 'hostname' and this
[19:10] <jeffreylevesque> thank you
[19:12] <xpistos> Is there a way to check an md5sum against a test string?
[19:13] <xpistos> sorry that wasnt clear. Is there a way to check an md5sum agains a text string instead of an md5 file.
[19:16] <Random832> echo ... | md5sum?
[19:16] <Random832> or md5sum <<<"string" # note though that it will add a newline to the end
[19:16] <Random832> you can do printf "%s" "whatever string" | md5sum if you need to omit the newline
[19:17] <pavlos> xpistos,  echo "hello world" | md5sum
[19:18] <xpistos> pavlos: that does not check the file I need
[19:19] <Jay__> how to by adb sideload install ubuntu -touch
[19:19] <Jay__> how to by adb sideload install ubuntu-touch
[19:19] <Jay__> *
[19:19] <Jay__> >
[19:20] <Jay__> ?
[19:20] <xpistos> I have a tar file. I want to check the md5sum for it against the md5sum file we have but I don't want to download it since I have the strings for all the md5 on my system
[19:20] <ducasse> !touch | Jay__
[19:20] <pavlos> xpistos,  you mentioned string, not file. For a file you could use md5sum <<< file as Random832 suggested
[19:20] <Jay__> th re direct :)
[19:21] <xpistos> if I was using the file I would do md5sum FILE.tar -c FILE.md5
[19:21] <xpistos> That would tell me if they match.
[19:21] <Random832> pavlos, <<< is a string.
[19:21] <EriC^^> xpistos: which tar file?
[19:21] <xpistos> I want to do like md5sum FILE.tat -c "string"
[19:21] <Random832> xpistos, i'm confused as to what you're trying to do
[19:21] <Random832> ...oh, i get it now
[19:23] <xpistos> I have bad eyesight and the  md5 output is always a mess. I know if it changes it can be radically different but it would be easier to do against a string I am pasting and getting a yeah or nah\
[19:24] <Random832> xpistos, echo '[the md5sum] FILE.tar' | md5sum -c -
[19:24] <Random832> i still don't get why you don't want to download the md5sum file though
[19:25] <jaapio> hi, after some debugging I found out that ubuntu's network-manager is preventing my laptop from suspending correctly, has anyone a solution for this?
[19:25] <adalbert> jaapio: sudo apt-get remove network-manager ?
[19:26] <dellhem> Hey. I'm failing to connect through my wwan on my Dell Latitude. Anyone who sees anything interesting in this log of the connection attempt? http://pastebin.com/96rZ93uL
[19:26] <groundze1o> hello..nethogs shows me that tor is makiing connections atough tor browser is closed..using ubuntu mate
[19:26] <groundze1o> 16.10
[19:26] <xpistos> Random832: That did the trick thanks
[19:27] <Random832> groundze1o, the whole point of tor is to be part of a network, you're carrying other people's traffic.
[19:27] <groundze1o> Random832: don't you have to set up explicitly a "tor node" to do this?
[19:27] <groundze1o> is everyone acting automatically as a tor node?
[19:28] <Random832> i don't think you can be part of tor without being a tor node... you can not be an exit node, but you still relay traffic between other tor nodes
[19:28] <groundze1o> i see isee...
[19:28] <groundze1o> could i wireshark this traffic?
[19:28] <Random832> no there are layers of encryption to prevent you from doing that
[19:29] <Random832> only the exit node can see the 'real' traffic (which may still be encrypted with HTTPS, and it can't find the origin)
[19:31] <try_to_top> hi
[19:31] <try_to_top> any one here to help me
[19:31] <CoderEurope> maybe :)
[19:31] <Random832> i might be wrong about everyone being a node though
[19:32] <dax> you are
[19:32] <dax> being a relay is opt-in, having your relay be an exit node is a further opt-in
[19:32] <Random832> ok my mistake groundze1o
[19:34] <xpistos> Random832: the customer should have the ISO an patch on their their system and getting to the md5 file though elinks is a pain in the ass so I just have the sums handy on my local device
[19:35] <Random832> ...right
[19:35] <Random832> but why not have them on your local device *as a file*
[19:36] <Random832> i don't understand why or how you have them in whatever other format but can't have them as a file. i mean you could literaly echo that > md5sums instead of | md5sum -c - and *create* the file.
[19:37] <Random832> or curl it - curl http://whatever/md5sums.txt | md5sum -c -
[19:37] <coffeeguy> hi how do you set the fonts and scaling to default in ubuntu 16.04.1?
[19:38] <jaapio> adalbert: would be a last resort from my point of view :-)
[19:46] <brano543> Hello, i am having trouble determining how much memory process actually needed. If i check with system monitor i see in Memory column 564 MB, if i watch it with htop however i see RES 1074 MB, SHR 544 MB so now i am really confused. I want to print the memory usage inside a program.
[19:48] <brano543> When i write down actual memory used by system before and after running the process,the difference was roughly 500 MB.
[19:48] <ubunbroke> Hi, Ubuntu 16.04 on AMD64/1TB HDD, on boot the system keeps going into "Emergency Mode", it seems there is now an issue with one of the partitions, and the results of "fdisk -l /dev/sda" show 1 more partition than "/etc/fstab". Is this normal?
[19:54] <marlinthebird> Hello?
[19:54] <squig> hi
[19:54] <marlinthebird> How's it?
[19:54] <squig> fighting NetworkManger
[19:54] <squig> as you do
[19:55] <marlinthebird> Sounds like a blast
[19:56] <squig> not so much, its actually kinda quite in here? netsplit ?
[19:56] <ubunbroke> Nah, you mentioned "networkmanager"
[20:16] <ubunbroke> No much talking here, is there a better channel for Ubuntu?
[20:16] <_guest> _ruben
[20:17] <EriC^^> !ot | ubunbroke
[20:17] <_guest> tell me about this channel
[20:17] <ubunbroke> Thanks, I'm on a Live DVD so did not think to register
[20:22] <apex> apes here
[20:22] <OneLittleEndian> any ideas as in why the samba-libs package is not creating symlinks? i get  liblibsmb.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory; the link to is not there but i have /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/samba/liblibsmb.so.0
[20:23] <uygarcan> hekkı
[20:23] <uygarcan> hello
[20:23] <EriC^^> hi
[20:23] <uygarcan> ı need help my friend
[20:24] <EriC^^> uygarcan: ask
[20:25] <uygarcan> ı not dowland 3 party
[20:25] <apex> who is on the list
[20:29] <TheTank111> I am trying to check and repair a section of my disk using GParted(also I am booted on a live cd) but it keeps hanging. Is this normal/ should I just wait for a bit?
[20:30] <nicomachus> TheTank111: check and repair a section of the disk with GParted? what do you mean by "check and repair"? Restoring/creating a new partition?
[20:33] <TheTank111> nicomachus: I had a partition that has free space in it, but there was an error message said check the partition to fix it
[20:34] <TheTank111> I was originally trying to move the free space above the partition, but my comp froze
[20:35] <Guest22567> ok I don't know how I did this but my grub has a "ro" kernel parameter instead of "rw" and unless I manually change this in the grub menu, ubuntu doesn't boot... any ideas?
[20:35] <Guest22567> every time I upgrade the kernel, it resets this from rw to ro
[20:37] <Netek> hi all, I am trying to create a secured backup server.  Would closing all ports except SSH, using SSH key authentication only be sufficient?  Also is there a way I could possibly setup the backup server to accept connections from only a set of IP addresses?
[20:38] <Bashing-om> gueriLLaPunK|MBP: "rp" os correct . My boot line " BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-59-generic root=UUID=d9c2a8e6-d014-42a6-846f-7e7892f4aef5 ro " .
[20:38] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> oh good to know
[20:38] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> :P
[20:39] <nicomachus> Netek: there are a lot of hardening guides out there for Ubuntu server. As far as only allowing specific IP connections, yet it's possible. You just use a known_hosts file and then reject all connections that aren't in there.
[20:39] <ducasse> Netek: disallow access from everyone except the backup server with ufw or iptables
[20:39] <Netek> ok
[20:39] <Bashing-om> gueriLLaPunK|MBP: Sorry bout the highlight . the target left and I not pay proper attention to tabbing .
[20:40] <nicomachus> Netek: some resources: https://joscor.com/blog/hardening-openssh-server-ubuntu-14-04/  &&  https://linux-audit.com/ubuntu-server-hardening-guide-quick-and-secure/
[20:40] <gueriLLaPunK|MBP> haha no worries, Bashing-om
[20:40] <Netek> nicomachus thank you for the links :)
[20:45] <huxdr> d
[20:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[20:51] <CoderEurope> SebthreeBQM10HD: Hiya !
[20:51] <CoderEurope> I am in #ubuntu-offtopic !
[20:59] <adalbert>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:06] <arooni> i just added 3GB of guitar tabs to my Documents folder.  looks like tracker-miner-fs is occupying 100% of my cpu.  is there a way to reduce how     much cpu it takes?  or delay it for say at night when i'm not using my laptop?
[21:11] <arooni> also, is there a way to associate a file extension with a given program (in say /opt/guitarpro) ...
[21:19] <nicomachus> !bug 925948
[21:19] <nicomachus> arooni: it's a bug. what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[21:19] <arooni> nicomachus:
[21:19] <arooni> so i should just kill the process?
[21:19] <nicomachus> arooni: see here for some solutions: https://askubuntu.com/questions/346211/tracker-store-and-tracker-miner-fs-eating-up-my-cpu-on-every-startup#348692
[21:25] <mgaunard> when is someone going to fix that ms ttf fonts package, I get messages about it every single day
[21:27] <k1l_> wget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/m/msttcorefonts/ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.6_all.deb -P ~/Downloads && sudo apt install ~/Downloads/ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.6_all.deb
[21:27] <k1l_> that will get you the debian package that already got the fix included
[21:27] <mgaunard> why isn't the fix in ubuntu
[21:27] <k1l_> i dont know why the ubuntu maintainer is still wokring/waiting
[21:28] <mgaunard> anyway thanks
[21:29] <k1l_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/1607535
[21:30] <nicomachus> yea that one's been bugging me for a few weeks now ^
[21:31] <k1l_> seems like the changes on sourceforge need some deeper changes on apt and the handling of install scripts.
[21:31] <nomic> .es
[21:32] <rellis> If I have two viable drivers for a network interface how can I tell Ubuntu which driver I would prefer that it uses?
[21:32] <nicomachus> didn't know about the fix, k1l_. thanks.
[21:35] <arooni> thank you nicomachus
[21:36] <ducasse> rellis: if no other interfaces need it, blacklist the other driver?
[21:36] <arooni> is there a way to associate .gp3, .gp4 .gp5 files with guitar pro (which i have installed to /opt/Guitar Pro/) ?
[21:36] <ldsh> Hi, "apt install sam2p" do not work whereas I see it here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sam2p/0.49.2-3 What should I do to have it installed?
[21:36] <ldsh> I use Ubuntu 16.10
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> find sam2p
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> !find sam2p
[21:37] <nicomachus> that seems... off.
[21:38] <yaourt> Anyone know how to change the color of the taskbar? from purplish.
[21:39] <ducasse> ldsh: it's not in the 16.10 repos, looks like xenial was the last release it was packaged for.
[21:40] <nicomachus> arooni: I THINK you can edit ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list and add "application/TYPE=LAUNCHER.desktop" (filling in the blanks, of course) to the file
[21:40] <ldsh> ducasse, So if I have luck I may install it by looking for the source?
[21:40] <nicomachus> so "application/.gp3=Guitar\ Pro.desktop" or whatever it is.
[21:40] <yaourt> the appearance , don't seem to have a option for it.
[21:41] <k1l_> yaourt: the launcherbar on unity is colored to the wallpaper
[21:41] <ducasse> ldsh: there might be dependency problems that prevented it from being included, for example
[21:41] <nicomachus> k1l_: that's a configuration option, isn't it? that's not default
[21:42] <yaourt> k1l_, what i thought too.. but i changed wallpaper and nothing.
[21:42] <k1l_> nicomachus: that is the default on unity. but you can look at unity-tweak-tool
[21:42] <nicomachus> yaourt: so sometimes, if I open a GUI program with gksudo, it will mess with that. It make the launcher appear "default ubuntu purple" instead of matching the wallpaper. not sure if that's relevant to your issue, though.
[21:42] <ldsh> ducasse, Mh, seems this thing is quite old: "Parts of page may be obsolete. See sam2p on Google Code instead. " and 404 on Google code ...
[21:43] <yaourt> no i have no programs open.
[21:44] <ducasse> ldsh: so probably not included because it is deprecated/unmaintained. you'd better look for a replacement.
[21:44] <nicomachus> yaourt: it'll persist through the session, until I log out.
[21:45] <ldsh> ducasse, this was a dependency for an other software. So I will tell them they should switch to something else, or pack it inside.
[21:45] <ducasse> ldsh: sounds like the best option.
[21:46] <k1l_> yaourt: did you relogin?
[21:46] <yaourt> k1l, can i just switch user?
[21:46] <yaourt> i don't want to end process currently
[21:47] <k1l_> yaourt: i am not sure if the value for the launcher is changed immediately or just once on login.
[21:47] <yaourt> yeah it didn't change when i locked it.
[21:48] <yaourt> i rebooted a day ago tho it never changed.
[21:48] <yaourt> So either or logging out wont fix it.
[21:48] <ldsh> Thanks for the help ;)
[21:48] <ducasse> ldsh: yw :)
[21:48] <k1l_> yaourt: did you look at unity-tweak-tool?
[21:51] <yaourt> k1l_ yesh.
[21:51] <yaourt> k1l_  i couldn't find anything.
[21:51] <yaourt> k1l_ some people on the forums said the bar can't be changed.
[21:51] <k1l_> yaourt: what ubuntu is that?
[21:52] <yaourt> Latest version.
[21:52] <k1l_> …
[21:52] <yaourt> xenial or something.
[21:52] <k1l_> "lsb_release -sd"
[21:52] <yaourt> Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[21:53] <WolfInBoots> How do I make a live usb with exfat support? I can't install it when running the live usb.
[21:53] <k1l_> did you open unity-tweak-tool? and choose the first icon in the first row? "starter"? there should be the setting
[21:54] <WolfInBoots> for some reason apt-get install exfat-fuse just don't work, guessing it's because it's a live cd
[21:54] <Bashing-om> !persistence
[21:55] <Bashing-om> WolfInBoots: ^^
[21:56] <yaourt> okay thanks mate...
[22:00] <Aleksandar86> I want redirect .NET and .COM domain on diferent PC. I have two local PC (Ubuntu server with apache). PC1 192.168.11.250 and PC2 192.168.11.251
[22:00] <Aleksandar86> I have one public static IP
[22:00] <Aleksandar86> and primary vhost is PC1
[22:01] <Aleksandar86> how to redirect .NET domain on PC1 and .COM on PC2
[22:01] <Aleksandar86> ?
[22:01] <COSL04X> Aleksandar86: are you want to redirect for outside visitors or interal lookups ?
[22:01] <Aleksandar86> outside
[22:01] <Biosphere_50> Aleksandar86: you can use name base for you web server setup
[22:02] <Aleksandar86> DocumentRoot in VHOST?
[22:02] <Aleksandar86> what i need set for PC2
[22:02] <Aleksandar86> this is diferent PC with started apache
[22:03] <Aleksandar86> is posible do with VHOST
[22:03] <Aleksandar86> ?
[22:04] <Biosphere_50> Aleksandar86: You can only do it with one ip address on the same system unless you have second static ip
[22:05] <Aleksandar86> any another idea?
[22:05] <Aleksandar86> some proxy?
[22:06] <Biosphere_50> Aleksandar86: if you use a seperate port like 81 for one and 80 for other you can forward the port to according ip
[22:06] <Biosphere_50> internal ip
[22:06] <Aleksandar86> now i have this methode
[22:06] <Aleksandar86> but i Dont like www.site.com:81
[22:07] <Aleksandar86> i wanna do it without ":81"
[22:07] <Aleksandar86> is posible on public ip
[22:07] <Biosphere_50> Aleksandar86: other option would be to use system to redirect to second ip after they connect
[22:08] <Aleksandar86> yes
[22:08] <Aleksandar86> on PC1 i have very old CMS with old Ubuntu
[22:08] <Aleksandar86> i install new Ubuntu with apache on PC2
[22:09] <Aleksandar86> some cms not work with new ubuntu
[22:09] <COSL04X> Aleksandar86: Biosphere_50 is right, you would need to have a front end system that processes the request and based on what TLD is requested it knows what box to hand off to
[22:09] <Biosphere_50> Aleksandar86: what I think your after won't work unless you have a second ip to use
[22:09] <Biosphere_50> easier way would be to have a different port to forward from you router to the approriate system
[22:10] <Aleksandar86> I have Mikrotik with one public static IP
[22:10] <Aleksandar86> behind mikrotik i have two PC servers
[22:10] <Biosphere_50> using seperate ports would be the easy way but you don't want :81 you could have one that uses http and the other thats uses https
[22:11] <Aleksandar86> PC1 is old Ubuntu with IP 192.168.11.250
[22:11] <Aleksandar86> PC2 is new Ubuntu with IP 192.168.11.250
[22:11] <Aleksandar86> i have two domain .com and .net
[22:11] <Biosphere_50> Aleksandar86: you can't have duplicated ip addresses
[22:11] <Biosphere_50> Aleksandar86: pc2 should be .251
[22:11] <Aleksandar86> mistake
[22:11] <Aleksandar86> is 251
[22:12] <Biosphere_50> oh ok
[22:12] <Biosphere_50> whats the first thing you hit coming in your router?
[22:12] <Biosphere_50> or are you direct to pc1 or pc2?
[22:12] <Biosphere_50> like dmzed?
[22:12] <Aleksandar86> is this moment i redirect www.site.com:8888 to 192.168.11.251
[22:12] <Aleksandar86> www.site.com to 192.168.11.250
[22:13] <Biosphere_50> ok but you want .net to pc2 .com to be pc1 correct?
[22:13] <Aleksandar86> but i dont like this ":8888"
[22:13] <Aleksandar86> yes
[22:13] <Aleksandar86> without see port
[22:13] <Biosphere_50> umm let me think see if there is another way todo
[22:13] <TheTank111> after repartioning my drive should ubuntu be taking 10 + minutes to boot up on its initial restart? (I'm wondering if its configuring something)
[22:13] <Aleksandar86> PC1 is master
[22:13] <Biosphere_50> there's another way but it might be too complex
[22:14] <Biosphere_50> example pc1 would be the .com
[22:14] <Aleksandar86> yes
[22:14] <Biosphere_50> pc1 would have a seperate host for .net on your apaches pointing to another documentroot
[22:14] <Biosphere_50> then setup samba and mount the htdocs from pc2 to the documentroot on pc1
[22:14] <Aleksandar86> OK.
[22:14] <Biosphere_50> if you catch my drift
[22:15] <Biosphere_50> so pc1 would haddle the apache requests but the documentroot would be a sambe share on pc2
[22:15] <req4h> hello everyone, gksudo nautilus doesnt open nautilus..what can I do?
[22:15] <Aleksandar86> i have diferent version apache on PC1 and PC2
[22:15] <Biosphere_50> mounted to pc1
[22:15] <Aleksandar86> PC1 is to old
[22:15] <Biosphere_50> well then use pc2 as your primary
[22:15] <Aleksandar86> some CMS on PC not working on PC2
[22:15] <Biosphere_50> oh
[22:16] <Biosphere_50> nvm that then
[22:16] <Biosphere_50> your own CMS or is like wordpress or something
[22:16] <rellis> Anyone know if the official Ubuntu HVM EBS-SSD AMI's have EnaSupport = true set?
[22:16] <Biosphere_50> could you upgrade it or something
[22:17] <Biosphere_50> req4h: Your trying to open filemanager right?
[22:17] <Aleksandar86> B2B with old framework is in PC1, i have new site on PC2
[22:17] <Biosphere_50> req4h: with sudo rights?
[22:17] <req4h> Biosphere_50, yes
[22:17] <req4h> yes
[22:17] <Biosphere_50> req4h: did you try it from terminal or run command from the menu?
[22:18] <req4h> Biosphere_50, I tried it from terminal
[22:18] <Biosphere_50> req4h: Whats your message or do you get nothing from response... you could try example gksudo nautilus /home/user
[22:19] <Aleksandar86> Biosphere_50 is posible direct in Mikrotik redirect www.site.com to 192.168.11.250 and www.site.net to 192.168.11.251
[22:19] <Aleksandar86> ?
[22:20] <Aleksandar86> site.com and site.net have same IP ( public of mikrotik)
[22:20] <Biosphere_50> Aleksandar86: Don't think so you can't point a ip based on name resolution that way
[22:20] <Aleksandar86> can I paste some link here?
[22:21] <Aleksandar86> http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Multiple_Web_Servers
[22:21] <Biosphere_50> Aleksandar86: you need someone to direct the request based of a name which don't think your miktronik supports that
[22:21] <Aleksandar86> ?
[22:21] <req4h> Biosphere_50, I get no response.
[22:21] <Biosphere_50> req4h: hmm
[22:21] <Aleksandar86> Biosphere_50 look this link
[22:22] <Biosphere_50> Aleksandar86: one sec
[22:22] <req4h> Biosphere_50, hmm
[22:22] <Biosphere_50> req4h: Did you try another file manager like pcmanfm or ....
[22:23] <ducasse> Aleksandar86: try ##mikrotik
[22:23] <req4h> no
[22:23] <req4h> I dont know about them
[22:23] <Biosphere_50> Aleksandar86: did you try /ip dns static add name=www.site.com address=192.168.10.250
[22:23] <RedPenguin> I think I figured out the answer to my problem earlier about root partition getting full for no obvious reason
[22:23] <Biosphere_50> Aleksandar86: then /ip dns static add name=www.site.net address=192.168.10.251
[22:23] <cfoch> Hi. itstool importa libxml2, but I don't have that module. I need it for jhbuild. How can I installit?
[22:24] <Biosphere_50> req4h: let me try on my setup
[22:24] <RedPenguin> I moved Dropbox to the data partition and even though Dropbox was "13GB" on the data partition it moved to "15GB" with no explation
[22:24] <ducasse> Biosphere_50: that is for internal dns lookups only
[22:24] <cfoch> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/535280/14852102/
[22:24] <Biosphere_50> ducasse: so that won't work external
[22:24] <k1l_> cfoch: install libxml2 package
[22:24] <ducasse> Biosphere_50: nope
[22:24] <Biosphere_50> don't know too much about miktronik
[22:24] <cfoch> k1l_, it is installed
[22:25] <Biosphere_50> thx ducasse
[22:25] <COSL04X> Biosphere_50: you will need a interal load balancer that looks at the incoming header and by the TLD, knows which system to forward to
[22:25] <ducasse> Biosphere_50: np, i've got a couple of them :)
[22:25] <Biosphere_50> req4h: Did you install gksudo tools also or just gksudo cuz when I do that I get a popup box with password request for su
[22:25] <Biosphere_50> req4h: whats your uname -a
[22:26] <k1l_> cfoch: well, that is python, so install  python-libxml2
[22:27] <cfoch> k1l_, I have that installed, too
[22:28] <cfoch> k1l_, I think it is because the package is called lxml in Python3
[22:28] <Biosphere_50> req4h: any luck?
[22:29] <req4h> Biosphere_50, yes, password request box comes, but entering pw, nothing happens
[22:29] <req4h> Biosphere_50, I installed gksu
[22:29] <Biosphere_50> req4h: hmmm strange
[22:30] <Biosphere_50> req4h: works for me on my system but what you get when you put uname -a in console
[22:30] <req4h> I get this: Linux vac7 4.8.0-22-lowlatency #24-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Sat Oct 8 10:13:38 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:30] <okwaho> hey everyone! having issues with bluetooth and 16.10
[22:30] <cfoch> but /usr/bin/itstool has a line "import libxml2"
[22:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !details okwaho
[22:30] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !details
[22:30] <okwaho> well....
[22:30] <cfoch> libxml2 is not available for Python3 I think
[22:31] <req4h> Biosphere_50, oh maybe because I selected low latency kernel...I dont know if it's got to do with it..but I didnt choose it on purpose
[22:31] <okwaho> it seems to be a conflict with wifi and bluetooth...sometimes it works ...sometime it doesnt
[22:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> okwaho, hardware what bluetooth devices
[22:31] <okwaho> any..specially headphones
[22:31] <SebthreeBQM10HD> oh
[22:31] <Biosphere_50> req4h: any recent update or upgrades?
[22:31] <okwaho> I mean they pair and all
[22:32] <okwaho> but if bluetooth works I loose wifi
[22:32] <req4h> Biosphere_50, yes
[22:32] <req4h> anyway, I will restart and try again..thank you very much for helping, Biosphere_50	
[22:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> okwaho, hmmm  normal  wilreless and bluetooth should work
[22:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> at once
[22:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> same ime
[22:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> time
[22:32] <Biosphere_50> req4h: no problem you could try launching it with su before in console that may give you admin for nautilus
[22:32] <okwaho> I read and tried quite a few things...and nope...still the smae from a fresh install
[22:33] <okwaho> same
[22:33] <Biosphere_50> req4h: found some articals about nautilus not working after upgrade update
[22:33] <okwaho> dont know whats next
[22:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> okwaho, ok got another pair of blueetooth head phones?
[22:33] <okwaho> not really...
[22:33] <req4h> Biosphere_50, but nautilus is working..gksudo nautilus is not working
[22:33] <okwaho> you think the headset could be the cause?
[22:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> okwaho, or some other bluetooth dvices ?
[22:33] <okwaho> cause I get the same problem from a mouse
[22:33] <SebthreeBQM10HD> okwaho, no it may be a bug in ubuntu
[22:34] <Biosphere_50> req4h: hmm thats weird
[22:34] <okwaho> ok ...cause I see it reported in 13.04...
[22:34] <okwaho> and it seems to be fixed...I guess not for me...!
[22:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> okwaho, even here on one of the Ubuntu tablet,  bluetooh devices can take some effort to detect and have working properly, but thats a bit differnet from desktop ubuntu in that sense
[22:34] <req4h> Biosphere_50, will restart and see..ciao!
[22:34] <Biosphere_50> req4h: if you su in terminal before you launch nautilus do you have admin at that point?
[22:34] <Biosphere_50> req4h: aight laterz
[22:35] <okwaho> ok...anyways just wanted to pick your brains...if there was something else...I guess i'll just wait
[22:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> okwaho, I haven't actsaully tried bluetooth on desktop ubuntu on a pc,  but normal wirless, and bluetooh, should work
[22:35] <okwaho> thank you very much!
[22:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> okwaho, normal bluetooth and wifi at once
[22:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> sounds like a bug
[22:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> if not
[22:35] <okwaho> yeah it's one or the other
[22:35] <elisa87> please have a look http://askubuntu.com/questions/875433/include-git2-h-compilation-terminated-importerror-no-module-named-cffi
[22:35] <okwaho> but again not always
[22:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> okwaho, and if the mouse is having problems to
[22:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> not just the head phones
[22:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> well
[22:35] <SebthreeBQM10HD> differnt hardware
[22:35] <okwaho> yep mouse too
[22:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> okwaho, uhmm got WIndows or something or a tablet or phone
[22:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> to tes them with
[22:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> test
[22:36] <SebthreeBQM10HD> okwaho, its probably an UBuntu bug, and the hardware itself is ok
[22:36] <OerHeks> elisa87, try without sudo.
[22:36] <okwaho> thats what I figure...I tell you ...I tried  a lot of things
[22:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> okwaho, ok but seriosuly tried those devices with some other os
[22:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> okwaho, something else another os android wahtever, that supports bluetooth
[22:37] <okwaho> yeah they work fine under win10
[22:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !bug
[22:37] <okwaho> work fine under android
[22:37] <SebthreeBQM10HD> okwaho, not a hradware fault then as expected
[22:38] <okwaho> yeah i'M pretty sure
[22:38] <elisa87> OerHeks: please check the update it didn't work http://askubuntu.com/questions/875433/include-git2-h-compilation-terminated-importerror-no-module-named-cffi
[22:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> okwaho, not much you can do, but report it as a bug
[22:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> okwaho, you said there was a old bug report even ?
[22:38] <okwaho> hey...i'll stick around on the channel..intereting chats
[22:38] <okwaho> yeah I added my 2 cents on the bug report
[22:38] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ok :)
[22:38] <okwaho> just frustrating on a 3000 laptop cant get my bheadphones working
[22:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> okwaho, I thinik bluetooth can generally be a bit flaky I think that's the word with ubuntu
[22:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> not always work or properly
[22:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> !bluetooth
[22:39] <okwaho> yeah...thats what I read too
[22:39] <SebthreeBQM10HD> that it won't always work right ?
[22:40] <okwaho> well there seems to be a lot of complaints since I thin 11.04...so it's been ongoing
[22:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> well why not use usb head phones etc
[22:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> on pc ?
[22:40] <SebthreeBQM10HD> I think blue tooth is more for phones or tablets
[22:40] <OerHeks> elisa87, official guide uses pip, pip install cffi http://cffi.readthedocs.io/en/latest/installation.html
[22:41] <SebthreeBQM10HD> okwaho, its far from perfect, but bluetooth works quite well with the Ubuntu tablet in genral this one the hd
[22:41] <okwaho> well I like the headphones they work great and I can answer the phone and not be tied down to my desk
[22:41] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ok
[22:41] <okwaho> ok
[22:41] <SebthreeBQM10HD> well winows then or something :D h  e h
[22:42] <okwaho> arrrkkk!
[22:42] <okwaho> hehe
[22:42] <okwaho> I love my ubuntu
[22:42] <SebthreeBQM10HD> another Linux distro maybe, but bluetooth suport is probably about the same
[22:42] <okwaho> yeah I figure...and dont wnat to change my ubuntu
[22:42] <okwaho> rest work perfect
[22:42] <ash_workz> trying to install virtualbox and i got "Your system has UEFI Secure Boot enabled.                                                                                                                                                             │
[22:42] <ash_workz>   │                                                                                                                                                                                                       │
[22:42] <ash_workz>   │ UEFI Secure Boot is not compatible with the use of third-party drivers.                                                                                                                               │
[22:42] <okwaho> and im use to it
[22:42] <ash_workz>   │   "
[22:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ash_workz, hmm
[22:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ash_workz, ok disable that in the uefi bios of the machine
[22:43] <reisio> ash_workz: you're trying to install the virtualbox package?
[22:43] <ash_workz> reisio: yeah
[22:43] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ash_workz, have you got ubuntu on ?
[22:44] <ebonrook> Ubuntu is my first go at Linux, already liking it quite a lot. Don't know why I didn't jump on sooner.
[22:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ash_workz,  what would be the host os ?
[22:44] <ducasse> ash_workz: 'sudo mokutil --disable-validation'
[22:44] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ebonrook, I don't know igorance lack of knowlege knowing about ?
[22:44] <reisio> ash_workz: reboot, go into the config, and disable secure boot
[22:44] <ash_workz> SebthreeBQM10HD: ubuntu 14.04
[22:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ash_workz, not sure if uefi secure boot with effect virtualbox,  but could make sense,  disable in the uefi bios of the machine
[22:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> the real one
[22:45] <ash_workz> reisio: but I like secure boot... :\ you can't use virtualbox with secure boot?
[22:45] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ash_workz, apparnatly not going by your message
[22:45] <ducasse> ash_workz: you can't use dkms with sb
[22:45] <OerHeks> that virtual box uefi story was fixed in 5.0.18x iirc
[22:45] <ash_workz> ducasse: I don't know what either of those are
[22:46] <ducasse> ash_workz: without signing modules manually, that is
[22:46] <ash_workz> :
[22:46] <ash_workz> :\
[22:46] <ash_workz> OerHeks: hmm
[22:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ash_workz, dkms is for the kernel I think or something
[22:46] <ducasse> ash_workz: sb = secure boot, dkms = Dynamic Kernel Module Support
[22:46] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ash_workz,   and sb was just secure boot abbrivated
[22:46] <kk4ewt> yes dkms is  for the kernel to create the drivers for vbox
[22:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ash_workz, if the kernel can't be edited, well have its module put in for virtualbox
[22:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ash_workz, it wont work
[22:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> bassically
[22:47] <ash_workz> *_*
[22:47] <okwaho> ash...do u have install latest extention pack?
[22:47] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ash_workz,  secure boot is stopping the module from being installed it seems,  hence your error messge as well
[22:47] <kk4ewt> bs
[22:48] <kk4ewt> sb has nothing to do with vbox
[22:48] <SebthreeBQM10HD> kk4ewt, ok whats the error messagea bout then ?
[22:48] <ash_workz> well, I wouldn't necessarily call it an error message
[22:48] <kk4ewt> why would secure boot care about the host running a vm
[22:49] <dax> Ubuntu's implementation of Secure Boot cares about the kernel running unsigned modules
[22:49] <kk4ewt> the host is alreeady past secure boot before the vm is brought up
[22:49] <k1l_> kk4ewt: its not "bs".
[22:49] <dax> I have no idea how and whether Ubuntu's packaging for it deals with that
[22:49] <reisio> ash_workz: nobody likes secure boot, it's pointless
[22:49] <k1l_> kk4ewt: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/System_Administrators_Guide/sect-signing-kernel-modules-for-secure-boot.html
[22:49] <reisio> as is U/EFI
[22:49] <ducasse> ash_workz: the mokutil line i gave you disables module validation by the kernel, so unsigned modules can be loaded
[22:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Ubuntus kerenl needs a moudle for virtualbox I belive
[22:49] <SebthreeBQM10HD> secure boot can stop that it seems going by the error message
[22:49] <k1l_> unsigned modules have been an issue with nvidia, vbox and others already.
[22:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ash_workz, disable secure boot, and virutalbox should work fine
[22:50] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ash_workz, may have to re install virutalbox or well do something to make sure the module installs, but other then that
[22:51] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ash_workz, and look at k1l_put that seems to explain it
[22:52] <ash_workz> so, the concensus is that secure boot is generally disliked and unnecessary?
[22:53] <kk4ewt> i only see it as nessassary on windows boxes
[22:53]  * ash_workz is moving the discussion toward the use of 'secure boot' in general
[22:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ash_workz,  for Linux users, yeah prertty much,  stops live usbs from loading up even etc
[22:53] <ash_workz> I see
[22:54] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ash_workz, for a windows install can deabtlay secure stuff a bit, since random usbs with viruses, can't just be booted up on the computer
[22:54] <hydrajump> why does `apt search  libevdev-tools` not return any results?
[22:54] <k1l_> its s security feature to make sure you only run module you want to run. that they havent been exchanged with malicious ones
[22:54] <ash_workz> deabtlay?
[22:54] <jasondockers> This might be the wrong channel to ask, but how unsafe is it to use "Bash on Ubuntu on Windows" with the Windows file system? Will anything be corrupted? Will line-endings be messed up, etc?
[22:54] <k1l_> hydrajump: what ubuntu are you on?
[22:54] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ash_workz, generally uefi and secure boot causses issues on a Linux system anyway
[22:55] <ducasse> !ubuwin | jasondockers
[22:55] <ash_workz> that just sorta surprises me in general ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[22:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> why how so ?
[22:56] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ash_workz,  and when trying to dual boot with windows on certain computers with uefi,  and secure boot etc, yes there really can be problems and oh I know !
[22:57] <ash_workz> I dunno; for some reason I got the feeling that secure boot had it's use cases for linux... that was just the impression I got
[22:57] <ducasse> ash_workz: you can still use secure boot, you just need to create and enroll keys and sign the module(s) on every kernel upgrade ;)
[22:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> no it's mostlys usless for linux
[22:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> and causes problems intead
[22:57] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ash_workz, uefi etc, genrally makes sthings more complex  for linux, and things don't always work right as well so
[22:57] <hydrajump> k1l_: 16.10
[22:58] <ash_workz> ducasse: lawl; do you see secure boot as desirable for any use case?
[22:58] <k1l_> SebthreeBQM10HD: there are some issues with it. but its a good thing when it works. it makes systems more secure.
[22:58] <k1l_> hydrajump: is universe enabled?
[22:58] <hydrajump> k1l_: let me check
[22:58] <k1l_> !info libevdev-tools
[22:59] <ash_workz> I mean, I think secure boot is the reason why I have my HDD partitioned the way that it is
[22:59] <ash_workz> which is a real pain because /boot always fills up
[22:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hmm how so
[22:59] <SebthreeBQM10HD> whats your partion set up ?
[22:59] <ash_workz> and I can't install updates without manually removing a previous package
[22:59] <dax> ash_workz: nope, that's UEFI
[22:59] <k1l_> ash_workz: secureboot is not related to uefi or lvm
[22:59] <ash_workz> oh... but UEFI is also generally considered useless on Linux?
[23:00] <dax> not particularly
[23:00] <k1l_> a lot of things get mixed here.
[23:00] <worldlandlord4> hi
[23:00] <worldlandlord4> i have a bizarre problem
[23:00] <ash_workz> k1l_: you're tellin' me :P
[23:00] <dax> personally I set my /boot partition to FAT32, use it for UEFI, and make it a GB or so, but I have drive space to burn and I don't use Ubuntu's weird automatic partitioner
[23:00] <dax> so who knows what it does by default
[23:00] <worldlandlord4> i can't update
[23:01] <k1l_> worldlandlord4: put the terminal output and errors on paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here
[23:01] <hydrajump> k1l_: thank you
[23:02] <worldlandlord4> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23854532/
[23:03] <k1l_> worldlandlord4: what did you do?
[23:03] <worldlandlord4> so 2 things come to mind
[23:03] <worldlandlord4> 1 i am using mate 16.04
[23:03] <worldlandlord4> and i tried to install ubuntu
[23:03] <worldlandlord4> unity 8
[23:03] <ducasse> dax: in regard to ubuntu packaging - during install you are asked whether to disable secure boot validation, but it's badly labeled as 'disable secure boot'
[23:04] <worldlandlord4> and maybe that messed up my system? idk
[23:04] <worldlandlord4> or 2
[23:04] <worldlandlord4> hacked
[23:04] <worldlandlord4> and someone effed with my setting
[23:04] <worldlandlord4> (i may or may not be using kodi
[23:04] <dax> ducasse: i assume from you making a distinction that it tells shim not to validate modules or something?
[23:04] <worldlandlord4> which i am sure poses some risk to security
[23:04] <worldlandlord4> to some degree
[23:05] <worldlandlord4> but that may be too extreme
[23:05] <ducasse> dax: exactly, mokutil --disable-validation to be precise
[23:05] <dax> ducasse: thank you
[23:05] <ducasse> dax: np
[23:05] <k1l_> worldlandlord4: is that a rpi or something?
[23:05] <worldlandlord4> rpi?
[23:05] <worldlandlord4> linux noob
[23:06] <ash_workz> where are the old kernels again?
[23:06] <worldlandlord4> here
[23:06] <k1l_> worldlandlord4: the hardware. is it a ARM board?
[23:06] <worldlandlord4> nah
[23:06] <worldlandlord4> intel
[23:06] <worldlandlord4> 64 bit
[23:06] <worldlandlord4> it was weird bc unity 8 thought i was a tablet when i tried to logi n
[23:07] <k1l_> worldlandlord4: "ls -al /etc/apt"
[23:07] <k1l_> worldlandlord4: what does it show?
[23:07] <worldlandlord4> ls: cannot access '/etc/apt': No such file or directory
[23:07] <worldlandlord4> i tried to make the dir but couldn't
[23:08] <k1l_> ok, so there must have happend more than just installing unity 8. because that doesnt remove the apt dir
[23:08] <worldlandlord4> yeah, hence my concern of being hacked
[23:08] <worldlandlord4> and someone messin'
[23:10] <worldlandlord4> i tried ask ubuntu and tried running those commands
[23:10] <worldlandlord4> but to no avail
[23:11] <tareawolf> ummm
[23:11] <jarrac> hello, why do you think an app doesnt open when clicked on launcher?
[23:11] <jarrac> or in dash
[23:12] <reisio> jarrac: which app/s?
[23:12] <jarrac> reisio, software center
[23:13] <worldlandlord4> k1l_, should i just reinstall
[23:14] <k1l_> worldlandlord4: you could create those folders and rebuild the sources.list there manually.
[23:15] <Black_Wolf> Hello
[23:15] <jarrac> I am also looking for an application to add text on pdfs, like notes etc.
[23:15] <k1l_> worldlandlord4: sudo mkdir -p /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[23:16] <worldlandlord4> okay cool
[23:16] <k1l_> worldlandlord4: then open the system settings and set the repos needed again there
[23:16] <worldlandlord4> so that seems to have worked
[23:17] <worldlandlord4> last time i tried it wouldn't let me create  the directory
[23:17] <worldlandlord4> how would i set the repos there?
[23:17] <k1l_> go to the system settings and make sure they are checked
[23:17] <reisio> jarrac: try xournal
[23:18] <jarrac> reisio, havent heard of it, thank you, I will :)
[23:18] <reisio> jarrac: not the only solution, just the first that comes to mind
[23:18] <reisio> Black_Wolf: hi
[23:18] <k1l_> worldlandlord4: but you are still missing all the apt configs in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/  so your system might still be a mess
[23:18] <reisio> jarrac: so you hit the software center icon and nothing happens?
[23:19] <Black_Wolf> :D
[23:19] <ducasse> k1l_: plus the keys
[23:19] <tareawolf> Bye bye
[23:19] <k1l_> ducasse: right
[23:19] <jarrac> reisio, yes..but it happens occasionally to nautilus, too.
[23:20] <worldlandlord4> yeah it just gave me this
[23:20] <worldlandlord4> https://paste.ubuntu.com/23854693/
[23:21] <reisio> jarrac: on those occasions, you might get more useful feedback by attempting to execute the executable form a terminal
[23:21] <TheTank111> so I did a fresh install of ubuntu(I have nvidia graphics cards). I get frozen at the login screen, I tried to restart and hold shift and enter nomodeset but the shift command didnt bring up grub. Any reccomendations/
[23:21] <k1l_> worldlandlord4: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[23:21] <worldlandlord4> def a step in the right direction
[23:22] <k1l_> sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[23:22] <jarrac> what would be the command line of the executable to execute?
[23:23] <jarrac> sorry, command line name, I mean
[23:23] <jarrac> ubuntu-software-center, maybe?
[23:23] <jarrac> no, it isn't
[23:23] <Bashing-om> TheTank111: EFI system ? Spam the escape key to get grub's attention.
[23:24] <k1l_> jarrac: its ubuntu-software
[23:24] <worldlandlord4> oh i was playing around with pingiuy builder to create a backup iso
[23:24] <k1l_> worldlandlord4: .....
[23:24] <worldlandlord4> i wonder if that messed with something too
[23:24] <k1l_> worldlandlord4: yes
[23:24] <jarrac> k1l_, ah, thank you :)
[23:25] <TheTank111> Bashing-om: that seemed to do something, but I still cant type
[23:25] <worldlandlord4> i updated and it asked to install some things
[23:25] <TheTank111> im also looking at http://askubuntu.com/questions/588380/stuck-on-login-screen-everything-plugged-in-is-unresponsive
[23:26] <k1l_> worldlandlord4: its a known issue according to their forums.
[23:26] <jarrac> and terminal doesnt launch either, saying 'timeout was reached'
[23:26] <worldlandlord4> i check off some other things for security updates and hopefully it will find that i have nothing and restore some things
[23:27] <worldlandlord4> asking me to restart
[23:28] <worldlandlord4> brb
[23:28] <worldlandlord4> unless there is anything else you want me to do efore i restart
[23:28] <k1l_> as i said, there is still stuff missing for apt.
[23:29] <k1l_> but i dont know how to get that back
[23:29] <Bashing-om> TheTank111: Not expected in the grub screen to "type" . What are you booting to ? What is your present goal ?
[23:30] <worldlandlord4> k1l_, anything major that i should be worried about?
[23:30] <worldlandlord4> eg security?
[23:30] <worldlandlord4> or it might act weird ?
[23:30] <TheTank111> Bashing-om:  I am booting to the normal ubuntu login screen. I just did a fresh install. It gets to the screen and says login, but then it seems like its frozen. Doesnt take keyboard input or mouse input
[23:31] <TheTank111> I wanted to change the settings because Im pretty sure I just need to set the "nomodeset" flag and than install my graphics drivers, but I cant do that even
[23:32] <k1l_> worldlandlord4: acting weird while missing the proper conf files to act normal.
[23:33] <Bashing-om> TheTank111: Sounds like a graphic's driver issue . Have you attempted to boot with the 'nomodeset' boot parameter - nVidia -? If bootable then one can install a proprietary driver .
[23:33] <worldlandlord4> ok ill deal
[23:33] <worldlandlord4>  i use it for light work and mostly viewing netflix
[23:33] <TheTank111> Bashing-om: right I am just not sure how to boot with that flag. I try to get into the grub screen by holding down shift but nothing happens
[23:33] <worldlandlord4> k1l_, thank you sir
[23:33] <Bashing-om> TheTank111: At the grub boot menu = pressing 'e' has what affect ?
[23:34] <Bashing-om> TheTank111: Again. if EFI it is the escape key . shift for the legacy systems ,
[23:35] <TheTank111> ok
[23:36] <TheTank111> Bashing-om:  i got to grub
[23:37] <jarrac> reisio, thank you very much for the pdf program! :)
[23:37] <jarrac> k1l_ ,k1l_, ah, thank you :)
[23:37] <jarrac> haha sorry
[23:37] <jarrac> k1l_ , thank you, too!
[23:37] <k1l_> np
[23:37] <jarrac> have a good day/night, ciao!
[23:38] <Bashing-om> TheTank111: With a ubuntu kernel selected to boot, press the 'e' key . What results ?
[23:39] <TheTank111> Bashing-om: I was able to login, Now i will install the appropriate nvidia drivers. Thanks!!
[23:39] <TheTank111> I hit e, and entered nomodeset
[23:40] <Bashing-om> the K .. the 'buntu way ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . Let the system do the walking .
[23:41] <Bashing-om> TheTank111: ^^ .
[23:41] <TheTank111> Bashing-om: :D thanks!
[23:42] <Black_Wolf> ja
[23:51] <yakiza> Ben64 here?
[23:58] <yakiza> gHello guys i have just formated my pc for the 2nd time , because when i formated it the first time and selected this  "Nvidia binary-driver-version367.57 from nvidia-367(propietaryy,tested) installed it restart my computer... my computer would boot and  my form  to put the decrypt code is big! and after a  minute itt restarts and get me a gru menu
[23:58] <yakiza>  i hit ubuntu and i get a black screen and nothing else what can i do  i
[23:59] <vacho> yakiza: how many display ports does ur computer have?
[23:59] <vacho> it might be running from the default VGA port built in your MB instead of your graphic card
[23:59] <temp-wifirepeate> At boot time my laptop does not get a dynamic ip address from the wireless router. But after if after login i do iwconfig wlan0 rate 1M &&  ifconfig wlan0 up && dhclient -v wlan0  i succcesfully connect to the internet. What file do i need to edit to permanently set wlan0's rate to 1M?
[23:59] <yakiza> vancho  it has 2