| flocculant | bluesabre: how long do you think we should wait re the lock issue before reminding r_a he was going to take a look? | 12:29 |
|---|---|---|
| bluesabre | flocculant, I think its safe to remind now | 12:56 |
| bluesabre | gotta run, bbl | 12:56 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: I'll try and remember this evening when he's around then | 14:19 |
| flocculant | akxwi-dave: iso boot to desktop thing has now been seen in gnome and budgie - with a couple of bug reports - ours is now a dupe - but one is marked high importance at least | 14:35 |
| akxwi-dave | Yup cheers saw the emails come in wonder if my little post in ubuntu-dev helped? | 14:39 |
| flocculant | perhaps - don't idle there :p | 14:40 |
| * flocculant wanders of to logs | 14:41 | |
| flocculant | entirely possible :D | 14:42 |
| * flocculant bores himself stupid installing 'flavours' to test lock there | 14:49 | |
| akxwi-dave | lol have fun sir.. | 14:49 |
| * flocculant really should work out how to do that in qemu ... | 14:52 | |
| flocculant | \o/ | 15:23 |
| flocculant | wxl: you're affected by bug 1656399 | 15:26 |
| ubottu | bug 1656399 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Unable to unlock Xubuntu XFCE session after suspend." [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1656399 | 15:26 |
| flocculant | also seems I made a mistake when checking old versions of lightdm - one I said works doesn't | 15:37 |
| flocculant | which makes it appear to be pitti's change in November | 15:39 |
| ochosi | flocculant: hey, what's the state of the locking issue in a nutshell? is it lightdm now, or is it us? or pitti? or transitioning to systemd again? | 19:05 |
| flocculant | ochosi I think it's lightdm | 19:06 |
| flocculant | at least if I revert to an older lightdm then locking works | 19:06 |
| flocculant | confirmed the same behaviour in lubuntu earlier today | 19:07 |
| ochosi | humm right | 19:07 |
| flocculant | ochosi: and light-locker is at same version as it is in yakkety | 19:07 |
| ochosi | any reaction so far from robert on this issue? | 19:07 |
| flocculant | only that he wanted a lightdm.log | 19:08 |
| ochosi | yeah, light-locker is not really actively maintained these days, so i'm not surprised it's the same version ;) | 19:08 |
| flocculant | but then I've not been hounding him either | 19:08 |
| ochosi | right, i guess he would be the right person to go with | 19:08 |
| flocculant | hence pinging Sean about that earlier | 19:08 |
| flocculant | http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/lightdm/lightdm_1.21.1-0ubuntu2/changelog | 19:08 |
| ochosi | if you can provide the lightdm.log and follow through with him if he needs more that'd be awesome | 19:09 |
| flocculant | is when it fails | 19:09 |
| flocculant | ochosi: yea - he has that on the bug - 5 minutes after he asked :) | 19:09 |
| ochosi | :) | 19:09 |
| ochosi | nice work | 19:09 |
| flocculant | expecting him to show up soonish in -desktop - I will ping him there and nudge a bit :D | 19:10 |
| flocculant | we should sue the same lock as Ubuntu - then if it fails it's easier lol | 19:11 |
| flocculant | sue/use | 19:11 |
| flocculant | ochosi: just a quick one - which package would this bug need to be against on xfce bugs? I'll report (or find existing) upstream to link against bug 1658772 | 19:13 |
| ubottu | bug 1658772 in thunar (Ubuntu) "xubuntu, thunar, desktop background" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1658772 | 19:13 |
| flocculant | someone I don't know about using zesty xubuntu :) | 19:14 |
| flocculant | biab | 19:14 |
| flocculant | ochosi: pinged him in -desktop | 20:17 |
| ochosi | flocculant: that works for me (re: xfdesktop) | 20:23 |
| ochosi | it's not recursive | 20:23 |
| ochosi | so it doesn't loop over all subdirs | 20:23 |
| ochosi | but it works as expected | 20:23 |
| flocculant | ochosi: odd why it is different in yak | 20:24 |
| ochosi | i don't think it is | 20:24 |
| ochosi | the xfdesktop version should be exactly the same | 20:24 |
| flocculant | well - it looks different - I see zesty as the reported screenie and yak as the one I linked | 20:25 |
| flocculant | definitely different | 20:25 |
| flocculant | ochosi: if you've 5 could you pop by -desktop? | 20:26 |
| flocculant | re the lock thing - I can't answer a question :D | 20:26 |
| flocculant | ochosi: basically I can't answer " do you think light-locker hasn't completed all its actions before it's killed?" | 20:29 |
| ochosi | hmm, the xfdesktop thing doesn't make sense to me, so the open file dialog has the right side disabled and you can't click anything? | 20:29 |
| flocculant | ochosi: yea | 20:30 |
| flocculant | and if, for instance, I had pics in /home/pics - I can't pick it - BUT if I had /home/pics in thunars sidepane then I can | 20:31 |
| ochosi | sry, gotta run | 20:31 |
| ochosi | bbia | 20:31 |
| ochosi | b | 20:31 |
| flocculant | yep - cya | 20:31 |
| ochosi | flocculant: so maybe a good idea (following up on robert's comment): test with a different greeter (e.g. unity-greeter or something) and see whether it's actually a greeter problem (i.e. the greeter crashing or something | 21:09 |
| flocculant | ochosi: just saw that - was just installing it :p | 21:10 |
| ochosi | awesome :) | 21:10 |
| flocculant | omg | 21:10 |
| ochosi | ? | 21:11 |
| flocculant | can you think of a greeter which doesn't install the world with it ... | 21:11 |
| flocculant | unity-g isn't much better than the kde one lol | 21:11 |
| ochosi | hm, there used to be some html greeter | 21:12 |
| ochosi | but tbh ours was always the lightest | 21:12 |
| ochosi | so even with --no-install-recommends? | 21:12 |
| ochosi | i thought then unity-greeter isn't that bad.. | 21:12 |
| flocculant | 99 to newly install | 21:12 |
| ochosi | :/ | 21:13 |
| flocculant | no install recommends is better :D | 21:13 |
| flocculant | ok couple of reboots coming up | 21:14 |
| ochosi | ok cool | 21:24 |
| knome | flocculant, re: requirements, check mailing list :) | 21:25 |
| flocculant | ochosi: first things first - unity greeter fails to start session | 21:27 |
| flocculant | secondly why do I do this to myself :( | 21:27 |
| knome | flocculant, slightly masochistic? | 21:27 |
| flocculant | forgot removing our greeter took out default settings - which left me with an xfce session | 21:27 |
| flocculant | now I've got rebuild my desktop and shortcuts ... | 21:28 |
| flocculant | I have so many vm's I could test in first ... | 21:28 |
| flocculant | knome: slightly idiotic more like :p | 21:28 |
| knome | :P | 21:29 |
| knome | close, close | 21:29 |
| flocculant | omg lots of words in that mail :p | 21:29 |
| ochosi | oh, sry to hear | 21:30 |
| flocculant | ochosi: anyway - in a short while I'll test unity-greeter with recommends | 21:31 |
| flocculant | see what that does | 21:31 |
| flocculant | just want to get the desktop set again :) | 21:31 |
| ochosi | :) | 21:33 |
| flocculant | ochosi: ok - installing in a vm now :p | 21:40 |
| flocculant | sigh | 21:41 |
| flocculant | I'd set some low time to test lock earlier - now it's locked half way through installing ... | 21:42 |
| flocculant | ochosi: nope - no go with unity-greeter 'Failed to start session' | 21:45 |
| ochosi | that's odd, but add that to the bug report | 21:45 |
| ochosi | maybe it helps robert somehow... | 21:45 |
| flocculant | yup | 21:45 |
| flocculant | ochosi: he wants greeter log - any clue where that is? | 21:47 |
| slickymaster | sure flocculant | 21:48 |
| slickymaster | if you want me to review anything, ping me please | 21:48 |
| flocculant | oh - yea - that's dealt with now - thanks anyway :) | 21:48 |
| slickymaster | :) | 21:48 |
| flocculant | I was a bit 0_0 there ... | 21:49 |
| slickymaster | lol | 21:49 |
| flocculant | ochosi: I assume he means the one in /var/log/lightdm *shrug* | 21:50 |
| flocculant | biab after I force reboot following failed lock ... | 21:51 |
| knome | team has mail re: t-shirts | 22:08 |
| flocculant | now I just need to work out why keyboard shortcuts aren't working :( | 22:10 |
| knome | minor! :) | 22:10 |
| flocculant | says you ... | 22:11 |
| flocculant | :p | 22:11 |
| knome | i was joking | 22:11 |
| knome | :P | 22:11 |
| flocculant | now I shall get back to my Starter for 10 mail in reply | 22:11 |
| flocculant | yea I know :) | 22:11 |
| ochosi | flocculant: thanks for following up | 22:18 |
| flocculant | ochosi: no problem :) | 22:18 |
| flocculant | knome: just a very quick one - have we thought much about a first boot screen like mate/budgie ever? | 22:48 |
| flocculant | spent a boring hour this afternoon installing 'flavours' to test lock - the budgie one intrigued me a bit | 22:48 |
| knome | there has been talk about OEM stuff, i don't know about that kind of thing though | 22:49 |
| flocculant | s/have we thought much in the past about | 22:49 |
| knome | it's a bit intertwined, so should be discussed all at once | 22:49 |
| flocculant | not so sure about that | 22:49 |
| knome | i'm all for that if there's need/willingness to do something like that and the technology is "ready out there" | 22:50 |
| flocculant | I'll just grab a screenshot of the budgie one | 22:51 |
| knome | poke bluesabre ^ | 22:51 |
| flocculant | http://i.imgur.com/vEXq7dL.png | 22:52 |
| knome | right... | 22:52 |
| flocculant | some of the options have quite a lot of text | 22:52 |
| knome | yes, and this is quite the information overload | 22:53 |
| flocculant | the choice there being 'buttons' | 22:53 |
| knome | we kind of do the sameish with the slideshow | 22:53 |
| flocculant | well kind of | 22:53 |
| flocculant | anyway - was just a thought come question | 22:53 |
| flocculant | now though I am going to do like zebedee and split :) | 22:54 |
| flocculant | night peeps | 22:54 |
| knome | nighty | 22:54 |
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